Re: [Repeater-Builder] A DB224E antenna...

2010-09-03 Thread Jim Brown
Our club bought a new DB-224E a couple of years ago for around $650 and it has 
been a great performer.  We oriented the top and bottom dipoles to the north 
where we needed the most gain and the two center dipoles to the south where our 
primary coverage is required.  Our site is on a ridge overlooking the village 
to the south where most of our users are located.

We replaced an ancient DB-224 which had been modified with 2 inch extensions on 
the top and bottom of each dipole to move it down into the ham band.  The 
harness was in sad shape on the old one and was probably the reason we saw the 
remarkable improvement in coverage on the new antenna.  Also the original 
antenna had one dipole on the north side and three on the south side of the 
pole.  Our antenna extends above the top of a 30 ft wood pole barely above the 
trees.

Our primary route into the area is in a canyon where this antenna performs with 
a lot of multipath and this problem was solved with a linked repeater with a 
figure 8 directional antenna sited alongside and oriented to cover the canyon.  
A home brew colinear array with 4 half wave elements was used for this antenna 
(a lazy H stood up on end).

http://sbarcnm.org/gallery_code/Camelot-Rptr018.html

73 - Jim  W5ZIT

--- On Thu, 9/2/10, Ray Brown kb0...@sbcglobal.net wrote:

From: Ray Brown kb0...@sbcglobal.net
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] A DB224E antenna...
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, September 2, 2010, 8:26 PM







 



  



  
  
Greetings. I'm the trustee of our local club's 2m repeater. It's NE of 
the

big town of Joplin, MO. (147.210) What I want to find out, I'm going to ask

our club to buy a new 224e antenna (assuming that this is the correct version

needed for T147.210 R147.810), and arrange the elements on the north 

edge of the tower we're on so that 3 elements point to the SW, to favor our

town so that HTs can work it, and one element to the ENE to point some

energy to Springfield for working severe weather. Altho I'm thinking about

trying to link the repeater with either EchoLink or some other repeater to

Springfield and just point all 4 elements to the SW. :-)  But it's on the north

leg (that leg points to the north), so if pointing them to the SW gets the

highest gain, that sounds great to me. :-)  The point is that there's a DB224

there now, not sure if it's an E version or not, but I think it has some issues

right now, so I'd rather just get a new one up and bring the old one down and

go thru it at our leisure, plus reorienting it so that we can actually USE it. 
:-)



Anyways, I wanted to know if anyone had one here that was in either new-

in-box or barely used condition, how much $$ they go for nowadays, and

how hard is it to reorient the elements if it was originally designed / set

for omni (3, 6, 9, 12 o'clock).



Thanks!



Ray, KB0STN

Trustee, W0IN






 





 



  






  

Re: [Repeater-Builder] A DB224E antenna...

2010-09-03 Thread NORM KNAPP
Yes, db-224E is what you want. It is spec'd to cover 138-150mhz. Be careful 
that they don't send you a db-224AE. The E after the A means it is a 
150-160mhz range elliptical patter antenna. Also, try and specify a N male 
connector on your db-224E. The last one we ordered came with a PL-259 on the 
harness.. As far as trying to make the antenna somewhat directional, that would 
be a topic better addressed by others with more experience in that realm.
73

- Original Message -
From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu Sep 02 20:26:17 2010
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] A DB224E antenna...

  

Greetings. I'm the trustee of our local club's 2m repeater. It's NE of the
big town of Joplin, MO. (147.210) What I want to find out, I'm going to ask
our club to buy a new 224e antenna (assuming that this is the correct version
needed for T147.210 R147.810), and arrange the elements on the north 
edge of the tower we're on so that 3 elements point to the SW, to favor our
town so that HTs can work it, and one element to the ENE to point some
energy to Springfield for working severe weather. Altho I'm thinking about
trying to link the repeater with either EchoLink or some other repeater to
Springfield and just point all 4 elements to the SW. :-) But it's on the north
leg (that leg points to the north), so if pointing them to the SW gets the
highest gain, that sounds great to me. :-) The point is that there's a DB224
there now, not sure if it's an E version or not, but I think it has some issues
right now, so I'd rather just get a new one up and bring the old one down and
go thru it at our leisure, plus reorienting it so that we can actually USE it. 
:-)

Anyways, I wanted to know if anyone had one here that was in either new-
in-box or barely used condition, how much $$ they go for nowadays, and
how hard is it to reorient the elements if it was originally designed / set
for omni (3, 6, 9, 12 o'clock).

Thanks!

Ray, KB0STN
Trustee, W0IN






[Repeater-Builder] Re: Circular polarization for VHF repeaters?

2010-09-03 Thread sbjohnston
It looks like the FCC rules give you extra power when opting for dual
polarization.  Doesn't mean the circular antenna contributes to extra
coverage, in fact it looks like the extra RF power allowed for the two
polarities is giving you more coverage?

That's a confusing point, I know.  Every circularly-polarized FM 
station I've seen (and that's a lot of them) use an antenna design that 
handles the phasing and time-delay to create the circularly-polarized 
signal.  It is generally not done with separate horizontal and vertical 
antennas, another transmitter and phasing in the transmitter building, 
or anything like that.

Think of it this way - a circularly-polarized signal is spinning as 
the signal goes thru each RF cycle.  At any given moment it is rushing 
 from vertical thru various diagonal polarizations to horizontal and 
back around again.

The license reference to H and V powers (regarding c-pol station) is 
intended to say how much ERP should some out when the signal is V and 
how much when it is H.  It is possible to make the two components 
different, resulting in elliptical polarization rather than circular.

A VHF repeater could use the same antenna concepts (usually crossed 
dipoles with a phasing harness) to produce circular polarization.  Have 
a look at circularly-polarized satellite antenna designs.

Steve  WD8DAS

sbjohns...@aol.com
http://www.wd8das.net/

Radio is your best entertainment value.





RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Circular polarization for VHF repeaters?

2010-09-03 Thread Mark
Gary,

Once you get it figured out, PLEASE write up an article for Repeater-Builder
for the rest of us!!

Mark - N9WYS

-Original Message-
From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com  On Behalf Of Gary - K7EK

Thanks to all that replied. I appreciate your input. I'm still looking for
answers, but may be onto something.  I have emailed Bill Pasternak, the
author of that Cushcraft 4-pole conversion article. I re-read his original
article and may have figured out what I must do. That, plus any additional
input from Bill, should hopefully help me to complete the project. 

I will post again later if I have any success.

Best regards,

Gary, K7EK

Personal Web Page:  www.k7ek.net 



[Repeater-Builder] S-Com 7330 Controller

2010-09-03 Thread terry dalpoas
Does anyone know if the voice on this controller use a TI voice synthesizer or 
if it has the real speech like on the Arcom RC210?  Someone in the club liked 
how my RLC 1 Plus sounds and he wants one that sounds like it, but less 
expensive.



Re: [Repeater-Builder] Msf5000 Low Power alarms

2010-09-03 Thread Richard Arnold
There is an RSS software solution (bitbang) to get rid of the alarms.
Connect the RIB to the operating MSF.
From the main menu hit ALT-F5. A command line bar will appear telling you to 
enter an IPCB command. Enter the following: (WITHOUT the   quotes)

              /1e1607160800FF 

it is CASE sensitive. This sets the FWD/REV settings to zero and FF (infinity)
I've done it many times, and it works just fine!


--- On Sun, 8/29/10, jimmylpowell jpow...@b2xonline.com wrote:

From: jimmylpowell jpow...@b2xonline.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Msf5000 Low Power alarms
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, August 29, 2010, 12:36 PM







 



  



  
  
  I originally posted this on the MSF5000 board but got no response. I

thought I would broaden my search.



Does anyone know a way to get a non trunking MSF with out an internal

power

sensor to stop giving the 7 beeps? I have tried going back to a default

codeplug

and starting from scratch. This did not work. It seems that once the bit

is

set it won't go away. I'm sure that it happened when someone went into

the

screen to adjust the alarms. I know this is a common problem and they

tell you

not to do it.



I have the alarms disabled over the air, but it annoys me on the local

audio. I

would like to enable the over the air alarms, but I can't until I can

clear this

one.



My MSF has version 4.07 SSCB and 5.04 TTRC.



Maybe there's some bit banging that can be done.



Jimmy, K5JCT






 





 



  






  

Re: [Repeater-Builder] S-Com 7330 Controller

2010-09-03 Thread wd8chl
On 9/3/2010 3:07 PM, terry dalpoas wrote:
 Does anyone know if the voice on this controller use a TI voice synthesizer 
 or if it has the real speech like on the Arcom RC210?  Someone in the club 
 liked how my RLC 1 Plus sounds and he wants one that sounds like it, but less 
 expensive.

Yes, it's real speech, much like the 210. It also has the means to 
upload sound files (well, they need to be converted), so it can say 
about anything you want it to.



Re: [Repeater-Builder] S-Com 7330 Controller

2010-09-03 Thread Ken Arck
At 12:36 PM 9/3/2010, wd8chl wrote:


On 9/3/2010 3:07 PM, terry dalpoas wrote:

It also has the means to upload sound files (well, they need to be 
converted), so it can say
about anything you want it to.


---So does the 210 g

Ken
--
President and CTO - Arcom Communications
Makers of repeater controllers and accessories.
http://www.arcomcontrollers.com/
Authorized Dealers for Kenwood and Telewave and
we offer complete repeater packages!
AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000
http://www.irlp.net
We don't just make 'em. We use 'em!



RE: [Repeater-Builder] Antenna ID

2010-09-03 Thread Leroy A. M. Baptiste
This is an antenna made by Maxrad, it might be a
MBX 150 which will be VHF, they also make a UHF
version. They are all frequency adjustable.

Leroy. J39AI.

-Original Message-
From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of La Rue Communications
Sent: Friday, September 03, 2010 4:01 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Antenna ID

  

I figured this group would be in the know on how
to ID an antenna without a sticker or any
identification numbers engraved on it.
 
I have an antenna that I found. It has no stickers
of any kind, except for the This will kill you if
you touch a wire sticker on it. Pictures attached
are all I have. Its an N type connector and is
roughly 4 feet in length. Is there any way to ID
this with your traditional shop equipment?
 
Thanks in advance!
 
By the way, Kevin Custer, please email me! Thanks!
 
John Hymes
La Rue Communications
10 S. Aurora Street
Stockton, CA 95202
http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn





Re: [Repeater-Builder] Antenna ID

2010-09-03 Thread Ken Arck

At 01:01 PM 9/3/2010, La Rue Communications wrote:



I figured this group would be in the know on how to ID an antenna 
without a sticker or any identification numbers engraved on it.


I have an antenna that I found. It has no stickers of any kind, 
except for the This will kill you if you touch a wire sticker on 
it. Pictures attached are all I have. Its an N type connector and is 
roughly 4 feet in length. Is there any way to ID this with your 
traditional shop equipment?


Thanks in advance!



---Looks like a Cushcraft Ringo Ranger variation. Perhaps a 
commercial MaxRad version?


Ken
--
President and CTO - Arcom Communications
Makers of repeater controllers and accessories.
http://www.arcomcontrollers.com/
Authorized Dealers for Kenwood and Telewave and
we offer complete repeater packages!
AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000
http://www.irlp.net
We don't just make 'em. We use 'em!


Re: [Repeater-Builder] Antenna ID

2010-09-03 Thread Chuck Kelsey
These style antennas are typically poor performers FYI. I wouldn't use it for 
anything important. Cushcraft started the design with their Ringo series, 
then several others copied the design. They were inexpensive, which was the 
only good feature.

Chuck
WB2EDV



  - Original Message - 
  From: La Rue Communications 
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, September 03, 2010 4:01 PM
  Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Antenna ID





  I figured this group would be in the know on how to ID an antenna without a 
sticker or any identification numbers engraved on it.

  I have an antenna that I found. It has no stickers of any kind, except for 
the This will kill you if you touch a wire sticker on it. Pictures attached 
are all I have. Its an N type connector and is roughly 4 feet in length. Is 
there any way to ID this with your traditional shop equipment?

  Thanks in advance!

  By the way, Kevin Custer, please email me! Thanks!

  John Hymes
  La Rue Communications
  10 S. Aurora Street
  Stockton, CA 95202
  http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn



  


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Re: [Repeater-Builder] S-Com 7330 Controller

2010-09-03 Thread wd8chl
On 9/3/2010 3:53 PM, Ken Arck wrote:
 At 12:36 PM 9/3/2010, wd8chl wrote:


 On 9/3/2010 3:07 PM, terry dalpoas wrote:

 It also has the means to upload sound files (well, they need to be
 converted), so it can say
 about anything you want it to.


 ---So does the 210g

 Ken

Yup!



Re: [Repeater-Builder] Antenna ID

2010-09-03 Thread La Rue Communications
THats two for MaxRad so far! 

So it will either be a MaxRad or a Ringo. Its incredibly light, and it looks 
very much like a light saber, which is what I am almost inclined to use it for, 
if it wasnt worth a few bucks! :) 

Its nice to know this may be frequency adjustable. I just wanted to be sure, 
now I am more sure than I started with.

Thanks for the responses so far!

John Hymes
La Rue Communications
10 S. Aurora Street
Stockton, CA 95202
http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn
  - Original Message - 
  From: Chuck Kelsey 
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, September 03, 2010 1:25 PM
  Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Antenna ID




  These style antennas are typically poor performers FYI. I wouldn't use it for 
anything important. Cushcraft started the design with their Ringo series, 
then several others copied the design. They were inexpensive, which was the 
only good feature.

  Chuck
  WB2EDV



- Original Message - 
From: La Rue Communications 
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Friday, September 03, 2010 4:01 PM
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Antenna ID


I figured this group would be in the know on how to ID an antenna without a 
sticker or any identification numbers engraved on it.

I have an antenna that I found. It has no stickers of any kind, except for 
the This will kill you if you touch a wire sticker on it. Pictures attached 
are all I have. Its an N type connector and is roughly 4 feet in length. Is 
there any way to ID this with your traditional shop equipment?

Thanks in advance!

By the way, Kevin Custer, please email me! Thanks!

John Hymes
La Rue Communications
10 S. Aurora Street
Stockton, CA 95202
http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn






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Re: [Repeater-Builder] S-Com 7330 Controller

2010-09-03 Thread terry dalpoas
Thanks.  I let him know and he can decide which way he wants to go.
-Original Message-
Date: Friday, September 03, 2010 2:37:11 pm
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
From: wd8chl wd8...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] S-Com 7330 Controller

On 9/3/2010 3:07 PM, terry dalpoas wrote:
 Does anyone know if the voice on this controller use a TI voice synthesizer 
 or if it has the real speech like on the Arcom RC210?  Someone in the club 
 liked how my RLC 1 Plus sounds and he wants one that sounds like it, but less 
 expensive.

Yes, it's real speech, much like the 210. It also has the means to 
upload sound files (well, they need to be converted), so it can say 
about anything you want it to.





RE: [Repeater-Builder] Antenna ID

2010-09-03 Thread Leroy A. M. Baptiste
It is definitely a Maxrad I used them quite a
bit.

Leroy. J39AI

-Original Message-
From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of La Rue Communications
Sent: Friday, September 03, 2010 4:30 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Antenna ID

  

THats two for MaxRad so far! 
 
So it will either be a MaxRad or a Ringo. Its
incredibly light, and it looks very much like a
light saber, which is what I am almost inclined to
use it for, if it wasnt worth a few bucks! :) 
 
Its nice to know this may be frequency adjustable.
I just wanted to be sure, now I am more sure than
I started with.
 
Thanks for the responses so far!
 
John Hymes
La Rue Communications
10 S. Aurora Street
Stockton, CA 95202
http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn

- Original Message - 
From: Chuck Kelsey
mailto:wb2...@roadrunner.com  
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Friday, September 03, 2010 1:25 PM
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Antenna ID

  


These style antennas are typically poor
performers FYI. I wouldn't use it for anything
important. Cushcraft started the design with their
Ringo series, then several others copied the
design. They were inexpensive, which was the only
good feature.
 
Chuck
WB2EDV
 
 
 

- Original Message - 
From: La Rue Communications
mailto:laruec...@gmail.com  
To:
Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Friday, September 03, 2010
4:01 PM
Subject: [Repeater-Builder]
Antenna ID

I figured this group would be in
the know on how to ID an antenna without a sticker
or any identification numbers engraved on it.
 
I have an antenna that I found. It
has no stickers of any kind, except for the This
will kill you if you touch a wire sticker on it.
Pictures attached are all I have. Its an N type
connector and is roughly 4 feet in length. Is
there any way to ID this with your traditional
shop equipment?
 
Thanks in advance!
 
By the way, Kevin Custer, please
email me! Thanks!
 
John Hymes
La Rue Communications
10 S. Aurora Street
Stockton, CA 95202
http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn








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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Antenna ID

2010-09-03 Thread La Rue Communications
Perfect. Thanks Leroy!

John Hymes
La Rue Communications
10 S. Aurora Street
Stockton, CA 95202
http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn
  - Original Message - 
  From: Leroy A. M. Baptiste 
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, September 03, 2010 1:34 PM
  Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Antenna ID



  It is definitely a Maxrad I used them quite a
  bit.

  Leroy. J39AI

  -Original Message-
  From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
  [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On
  Behalf Of La Rue Communications
  Sent: Friday, September 03, 2010 4:30 PM
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Antenna ID

  THats two for MaxRad so far! 

  So it will either be a MaxRad or a Ringo. Its
  incredibly light, and it looks very much like a
  light saber, which is what I am almost inclined to
  use it for, if it wasnt worth a few bucks! :) 

  Its nice to know this may be frequency adjustable.
  I just wanted to be sure, now I am more sure than
  I started with.

  Thanks for the responses so far!

  John Hymes
  La Rue Communications
  10 S. Aurora Street
  Stockton, CA 95202
  http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn

  - Original Message - 
  From: Chuck Kelsey
  mailto:wb2...@roadrunner.com 
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, September 03, 2010 1:25 PM
  Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Antenna ID




  These style antennas are typically poor
  performers FYI. I wouldn't use it for anything
  important. Cushcraft started the design with their
  Ringo series, then several others copied the
  design. They were inexpensive, which was the only
  good feature.

  Chuck
  WB2EDV




  - Original Message - 
  From: La Rue Communications
  mailto:laruec...@gmail.com 
  To:
  Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, September 03, 2010
  4:01 PM
  Subject: [Repeater-Builder]
  Antenna ID

  I figured this group would be in
  the know on how to ID an antenna without a sticker
  or any identification numbers engraved on it.

  I have an antenna that I found. It
  has no stickers of any kind, except for the This
  will kill you if you touch a wire sticker on it.
  Pictures attached are all I have. Its an N type
  connector and is roughly 4 feet in length. Is
  there any way to ID this with your traditional
  shop equipment?

  Thanks in advance!

  By the way, Kevin Custer, please
  email me! Thanks!

  John Hymes
  La Rue Communications
  10 S. Aurora Street
  Stockton, CA 95202
  http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn


  



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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Antenna ID

2010-09-03 Thread Russ Hines

 I guess no one noticed the connector is an SO-239, not N.

73,
Russ
WB8ZCC


On 9/3/2010 4:44 PM, La Rue Communications wrote:


Perfect. Thanks Leroy!
John Hymes
La Rue Communications
10 S. Aurora Street
Stockton, CA 95202
http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn

- Original Message -
*From:* Leroy A. M. Baptiste mailto:leroybapti...@spiceisle.com
*To:* Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
*Sent:* Friday, September 03, 2010 1:34 PM
*Subject:* RE: [Repeater-Builder] Antenna ID

It is definitely a Maxrad I used them quite a
bit.

Leroy. J39AI

-Original Message-
From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of La Rue Communications
Sent: Friday, September 03, 2010 4:30 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Antenna ID

THats two for MaxRad so far!

So it will either be a MaxRad or a Ringo. Its
incredibly light, and it looks very much like a
light saber, which is what I am almost inclined to
use it for, if it wasnt worth a few bucks! :)

Its nice to know this may be frequency adjustable.
I just wanted to be sure, now I am more sure than
I started with.

Thanks for the responses so far!

John Hymes
La Rue Communications
10 S. Aurora Street
Stockton, CA 95202
http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn

- Original Message -
From: Chuck Kelsey
mailto:wb2...@roadrunner.com mailto:wb2edv%40roadrunner.com
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, September 03, 2010 1:25 PM
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Antenna ID




These style antennas are typically poor
performers FYI. I wouldn't use it for anything
important. Cushcraft started the design with their
Ringo series, then several others copied the
design. They were inexpensive, which was the only
good feature.

Chuck
WB2EDV




- Original Message -
From: La Rue Communications
mailto:laruec...@gmail.com mailto:LaRueComm%40gmail.com
To:
Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, September 03, 2010
4:01 PM
Subject: [Repeater-Builder]
Antenna ID

I figured this group would be in
the know on how to ID an antenna without a sticker
or any identification numbers engraved on it.

I have an antenna that I found. It
has no stickers of any kind, except for the This
will kill you if you touch a wire sticker on it.
Pictures attached are all I have. Its an N type
connector and is roughly 4 feet in length. Is
there any way to ID this with your traditional
shop equipment?

Thanks in advance!

By the way, Kevin Custer, please
email me! Thanks!

John Hymes
La Rue Communications
10 S. Aurora Street
Stockton, CA 95202
http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn






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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Antenna ID

2010-09-03 Thread MCH
It's not a real Ringo unless it's a very, very early one. The Ringos 
used round (whatever that is called at the bottom - the ring part).

They also had the feedpoint come perpendicular to the ring rather than 
(what appears to be) parallel gamma matched.

Joe M.

La Rue Communications wrote:
 
 
 THats two for MaxRad so far!
  
 So it will either be a MaxRad or a Ringo. Its incredibly light, and it 
 looks very much like a light saber, which is what I am almost inclined 
 to use it for, if it wasnt worth a few bucks! :)
  
 Its nice to know this may be frequency adjustable. I just wanted to be 
 sure, now I am more sure than I started with.
  
 Thanks for the responses so far!
  
 John Hymes
 La Rue Communications
 10 S. Aurora Street
 Stockton, CA 95202
 http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn
 
 - Original Message -
 *From:* Chuck Kelsey mailto:wb2...@roadrunner.com
 *To:* Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 *Sent:* Friday, September 03, 2010 1:25 PM
 *Subject:* Re: [Repeater-Builder] Antenna ID
 
  
 
 These style antennas are typically poor performers FYI. I wouldn't
 use it for anything important. Cushcraft started the design with
 their Ringo series, then several others copied the design. They
 were inexpensive, which was the only good feature.
  
 Chuck
 WB2EDV
  
  
  
 
 - Original Message -
 *From:* La Rue Communications mailto:laruec...@gmail.com
 *To:* Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 *Sent:* Friday, September 03, 2010 4:01 PM
 *Subject:* [Repeater-Builder] Antenna ID
 
 I figured this group would be in the know on how to ID an
 antenna without a sticker or any identification numbers engraved
 on it.
  
 I have an antenna that I found. It has no stickers of any kind,
 except for the This will kill you if you touch a wire sticker
 on it. Pictures attached are all I have. Its an N type connector
 and is roughly 4 feet in length. Is there any way to ID this
 with your traditional shop equipment?
  
 Thanks in advance!
  
 By the way, Kevin Custer, please email me! Thanks!
  
 John Hymes
 La Rue Communications
 10 S. Aurora Street
 Stockton, CA 95202
 http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Antenna ID

2010-09-03 Thread Dave Schultheis
John wrote:


(others have commented on the antenna type, seems to be VHF)


 Its an N type connector 


I believe that's an SO-239 connector, ready to accept your common 
PL-259 connector at the end of a piece of coax.

I haven't had any luck finding a document that describes the antenna 
or its associated cutting chart, sorry.  Someone else may have better 
luck.


73 Dave WB6KHP
San Jose

--

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Dave Schultheis, San José, Silicon Valley, Santa Clara County, CA, USA


RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Circular polarization for VHF repeaters?

2010-09-03 Thread Kris Kirby
On Fri, 3 Sep 2010, Mark wrote:
 Once you get it figured out, PLEASE write up an article for 
 Repeater-Builder for the rest of us!!

Make an X with dipole elements, and connect the feed harness to one 
side, and connect the left and right sides together with 1/4-wavelength 
of coax, wire, or coat-hanger. The antenna elements should be on 
opposite sides of the mast. 

Something about this tells me that the stack should have the next 
section up rotated 90-degrees around vertical to eliminate nulls.

If you take that and try to build it all around the same point, it 
starts looking like an imploded Lindenblad.

--
Kris Kirby, KE4AHR
Disinformation Analyst


RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Circular polarization for VHF repeaters?

2010-09-03 Thread Kris Kirby
On Fri, 3 Sep 2010, Kris Kirby wrote:
  Once you get it figured out, PLEASE write up an article for 
  Repeater-Builder for the rest of us!!
 
 Make an X with dipole elements, and connect the feed harness to one 
 side, and connect the left and right sides together with 
 1/4-wavelength of coax, wire, or coat-hanger. The antenna elements 
 should be on opposite sides of the mast.
 
 Something about this tells me that the stack should have the next 
 section up rotated 90-degrees around vertical to eliminate nulls.
 
 If you take that and try to build it all around the same point, it 
 starts looking like an imploded Lindenblad.

I could go further to say that it should be possible to do this with two 
DB-224 clones, the ones that hold the elements to the pipes with 
hose-clamps. Connect up all the feed harnesses as you normally would and 
connect the two by a -90 degree hybrid, or a 0-degree (in-phase) 
Wilkinson divider with a -90 degree section (1/4-wavelength) of coax on 
one leg, so that one antenna is fed -90 degrees (1/4-wavelength) from 
the other. 

Pasternak's article makes mention that these antennas are difficult to 
match. Things being as critical as they are, I would recommend tuning 
for minimum VSWR, since the receivers are hardly ever 50-ohms. 

This antenna may lend itself better to a split-antenna system without 
much separation between the circular antenna and the vertical antenna -- 
simply to avoid detuning the receiver duplexers if the antenna loading 
situation changes due to ice or other effects. 

--
Kris Kirby, KE4AHR
Disinformation Analyst


Re: [Repeater-Builder] Antenna ID

2010-09-03 Thread Roger Gray

This is a link to the tuning chart
http://wildcard.pctel.com/images_product_overview/pdf_docs/MBS_MBX_1.pdf
These are very solid reliable antennas within their specifications.
Roger

La Rue Communications wrote:


I figured this group would be in the know on how to ID an antenna 
without a sticker or any identification numbers engraved on it.
I have an antenna that I found. It has no stickers of any kind, except 
for the This will kill you if you touch a wire sticker on it. 
Pictures attached are all I have. Its an N type connector and is 
roughly 4 feet in length. Is there any way to ID this with your 
traditional shop equipment?

Thanks in advance!
By the way, Kevin Custer, please email me! Thanks!
John Hymes
La Rue Communications
10 S. Aurora Street
Stockton, CA 95202
http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn



Re: [Repeater-Builder] Wacom duplexer

2010-09-03 Thread x.tait.tech
Norm Sir, have you been able to locate a diagram for the Kenwood TK705 and
TK805 mobile trancievers, as i wish to make up a cable to go between the
Radio and my PC ( Laptop )

Marcus



On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 11:17 PM, NORM KNAPP nkn...@twowayradio.net wrote:



 Ok, so you need a mic connector diagram for a Kenwood TK-705. How about a
 KCT-19 as installed in a 705, or do you just need directions on how to
 construct a programming cable?

 - Original Message -
 From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.comRepeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com
 Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com
 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com
 Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Sat Aug 28 01:39:55 2010
 Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Wacom duplexer



 my unit is a mobile

 and yes the wiring diagram would be awesome

 i bought my unit from Pacific Aerials in Auckland New Zealand a pretty few
 years back, they are now however as best i know, not the agents for Kenwood,
 hence i am trying to locate the software,

 Marcus




 On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 6:40 PM, NORM KNAPP 
 nkn...@twowayradio.netnknapp%40twowayradio.net
 wrote:




 TKR-751 is a full blown VHF high band repeater Nothing similar there to
 the TK-705 or TK-805.
 The TK-862G is somewhat similar to the TK-805 in that it is a UHF mobile
 rig. It requires KPG-56D software and the cable that works on the TK-705/805
 will also work on the TKR-751 and the TK-862. The TKR-751 takes KPG-91G if I
 recall correctly.
 I am unable to provide this software for the group as I work for a Kenwood
 LM dealer and there are the typical software copyright laws that apply. I
 can help with wiring diagrams however...
 73



 - Original Message -
 From: 
 Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.comRepeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.commailto:
 Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com Repeater-Builder%2540yahoogroups.com
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 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
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 Sent: Sat Aug 28 01:24:33 2010
 Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Wacom duplexer




 um not sure there, mine is either Tk705d or Tk805d both are 99% same

 software to use is KPG6D programming software and KPG4 cable

 Marcus




 On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 6:26 PM, NORM KNAPP 
 nkn...@twowayradio.netnknapp%40twowayradio.netmailto:
 nknapp%40twowayradio.net nknapp%2540twowayradio.net  wrote:




 By these radios do you mean the TKR-751 (same as TKR-750) and the
 TK-862G?



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 Sent: Sat Aug 28 01:17:07 2010
 Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Wacom duplexer




 Change of direction for a brief second or three

 Does anyone have the PC programing software for these radios, and perhaps
 by slim chance the wiring diagram for the PC cable to interconnect

 Thanks in advance

 Marcus













  



Re: [Repeater-Builder] Wacom duplexer

2010-09-03 Thread NORM KNAPP
Exactly what do you need? Info to make a programming cable? I can tell you that 
there is a separate tx data line and a rx data line. Of course there is also a 
data ground. I can provide you with the info for what mic pin is what. Would 
that help?

- Original Message -
From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri Sep 03 19:30:50 2010
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Wacom duplexer

  

Norm Sir, have you been able to locate a diagram for the Kenwood TK705 and 
TK805 mobile trancievers, as i wish to make up a cable to go between the Radio 
and my PC ( Laptop )

Marcus




On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 11:17 PM, NORM KNAPP nkn...@twowayradio.net wrote:


  

Ok, so you need a mic connector diagram for a Kenwood TK-705. How about 
a KCT-19 as installed in a 705, or do you just need directions on how to 
construct a programming cable? 



- Original Message - 
From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com  Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com  
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com  Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com  

Sent: Sat Aug 28 01:39:55 2010 
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Wacom duplexer 




my unit is a mobile 

and yes the wiring diagram would be awesome 

i bought my unit from Pacific Aerials in Auckland New Zealand a pretty 
few years back, they are now however as best i know, not the agents for 
Kenwood, hence i am trying to locate the software, 

Marcus 




On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 6:40 PM, NORM KNAPP nkn...@twowayradio.net 
mailto:nknapp%40twowayradio.net  wrote: 




TKR-751 is a full blown VHF high band repeater Nothing similar 
there to the TK-705 or TK-805. 
The TK-862G is somewhat similar to the TK-805 in that it is a UHF 
mobile rig. It requires KPG-56D software and the cable that works on the 
TK-705/805 will also work on the TKR-751 and the TK-862. The TKR-751 takes 
KPG-91G if I recall correctly. 
I am unable to provide this software for the group as I work for a 
Kenwood LM dealer and there are the typical software copyright laws that apply. 
I can help with wiring diagrams however... 
73 



- Original Message - 

From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com  
mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com 
mailto:Repeater-Builder%2540yahoogroups.com  
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Sent: Sat Aug 28 01:24:33 2010 
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Wacom duplexer 




um not sure there, mine is either Tk705d or Tk805d both are 99% same 

software to use is KPG6D programming software and KPG4 cable 

Marcus 





On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 6:26 PM, NORM KNAPP nkn...@twowayradio.net 
mailto:nknapp%40twowayradio.net  mailto:nknapp%40twowayradio.net 
mailto:nknapp%2540twowayradio.net   wrote: 




By these radios do you mean the TKR-751 (same as TKR-750) and the 
TK-862G? 



- Original Message - 


From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com  
mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com 
mailto:Repeater-Builder%2540yahoogroups.com  
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Wacom duplexer

2010-09-03 Thread x.tait.tech
yes please, that is just what i am looking for

Marcus



On Sat, Sep 4, 2010 at 12:40 PM, NORM KNAPP nkn...@twowayradio.net wrote:



 Exactly what do you need? Info to make a programming cable? I can tell you
 that there is a separate tx data line and a rx data line. Of course there is
 also a data ground. I can provide you with the info for what mic pin is
 what. Would that help?

 - Original Message -
 From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.comRepeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com
 Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com
 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com
 Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Fri Sep 03 19:30:50 2010
 Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Wacom duplexer



 Norm Sir, have you been able to locate a diagram for the Kenwood TK705 and
 TK805 mobile trancievers, as i wish to make up a cable to go between the
 Radio and my PC ( Laptop )

 Marcus




 On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 11:17 PM, NORM KNAPP 
 nkn...@twowayradio.netnknapp%40twowayradio.net
 wrote:




 Ok, so you need a mic connector diagram for a Kenwood TK-705. How about a
 KCT-19 as installed in a 705, or do you just need directions on how to
 construct a programming cable?



 - Original Message -
 From: 
 Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.comRepeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.commailto:
 Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com Repeater-Builder%2540yahoogroups.com
 Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.commailto:
 Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com Repeater-Builder%2540yahoogroups.com
 
 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
 Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.commailto:
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 Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.commailto:
 Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com Repeater-Builder%2540yahoogroups.com
 

 Sent: Sat Aug 28 01:39:55 2010
 Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Wacom duplexer




 my unit is a mobile

 and yes the wiring diagram would be awesome

 i bought my unit from Pacific Aerials in Auckland New Zealand a pretty few
 years back, they are now however as best i know, not the agents for Kenwood,
 hence i am trying to locate the software,

 Marcus




 On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 6:40 PM, NORM KNAPP 
 nkn...@twowayradio.netnknapp%40twowayradio.netmailto:
 nknapp%40twowayradio.net nknapp%2540twowayradio.net  wrote:




 TKR-751 is a full blown VHF high band repeater Nothing similar there to
 the TK-705 or TK-805.
 The TK-862G is somewhat similar to the TK-805 in that it is a UHF mobile
 rig. It requires KPG-56D software and the cable that works on the TK-705/805
 will also work on the TKR-751 and the TK-862. The TKR-751 takes KPG-91G if I
 recall correctly.
 I am unable to provide this software for the group as I work for a Kenwood
 LM dealer and there are the typical software copyright laws that apply. I
 can help with wiring diagrams however...
 73



 - Original Message -

 From: 
 Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.comRepeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.commailto:
 Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com Repeater-Builder%2540yahoogroups.com
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 Sent: Sat Aug 28 01:24:33 2010
 Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Wacom duplexer




 um not sure there, mine is either Tk705d or Tk805d both are 99% same

 software to use is KPG6D programming software and KPG4 cable

 Marcus





 On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 6:26 PM, NORM KNAPP 
 nkn...@twowayradio.netnknapp%40twowayradio.netmailto:
 nknapp%40twowayradio.net nknapp%2540twowayradio.net mailto:
 nknapp%40twowayradio.net nknapp%2540twowayradio.net mailto:
 nknapp%2540twowayradio.net nknapp%252540twowayradio.net   wrote:




 By these radios do you mean the TKR-751 (same as TKR-750) and the
 TK-862G?



 - Original Message -


 From: 
 

[Repeater-Builder] Mastr 2 H-Split Pa's Vhf $$$$$$$$??????????

2010-09-03 Thread gervais
Hi all
i am cleaning here the garage.
how much the value on the market of Master 2 H-Split Pa?
i have no idea what it is today?
thanks
Gervais ve2ckn


RE: [Repeater-Builder] Antenna ID

2010-09-03 Thread Leroy A. M. Baptiste
I might have what you are looking for, I will look
for it tomorrow.

Leroy. J39AI

-Original Message-
From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Dave Schultheis
Sent: Friday, September 03, 2010 7:14 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Antenna ID

  

John wrote:

(others have commented on the antenna type, seems
to be VHF)

 Its an N type connector 

I believe that's an SO-239 connector, ready to
accept your common 
PL-259 connector at the end of a piece of coax.

I haven't had any luck finding a document that
describes the antenna 
or its associated cutting chart, sorry. Someone
else may have better 
luck.

73 Dave WB6KHP
San Jose

--

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http://www.accesscom.com/~dave6592
Dave Schultheis, San José, Silicon Valley, Santa
Clara County, CA, USA






[Repeater-Builder] UHF Circulator

2010-09-03 Thread Tim Sawyer
I'm looking for a UHF circulator to buy (or borrow). I have a mix that involves 
our transmitter but I'm not sure it's in our transmitter. We have a Micor 
repeater with the built in circulator but some feel an outboard two port is 
required for our nasty hill. It would be good if I could test one and not spend 
money on something that won't help. 

Aside from the the borrow request what do others think about this. Is more 
circulator than the stock Micor necessary?
--
Tim
:wq



Re: [Repeater-Builder] Msf5000 Low Power alarms

2010-09-03 Thread Jimmy Powell
That did work. That's cool. Is there anyway to save it to the radio?
When I reset the radio the problem comes right back. 

Thanks again. 

Jimmy



On Fri, 2010-09-03 at 17:01 -0400, MCH wrote:
   
 How do you set it back to normal?
 
 Joe M.
 
 Richard Arnold wrote:
  
  
  There is an RSS software solution (bitbang) to get rid of the
 alarms.
  Connect the RIB to the operating MSF.
  From the main menu hit ALT-F5. A command line bar will appear
 telling 
  you to enter an IPCB command. Enter the following: (WITHOUT the  
 quotes)
  
  /1e1607160800FF
  
  it is CASE sensitive. This sets the FWD/REV settings to zero and FF 
  (infinity)
  I've done it many times, and it works just fine!
  
  
  --- On *Sun, 8/29/10, jimmylpowell /jpow...@b2xonline.com/* wrote:
  
  
  From: jimmylpowell jpow...@b2xonline.com
  Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Msf5000 Low Power alarms
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
  Date: Sunday, August 29, 2010, 12:36 PM
  
  
  
  I originally posted this on the MSF5000 board but got no response. I
  thought I would broaden my search.
  
  Does anyone know a way to get a non trunking MSF with out an
 internal
  power
  sensor to stop giving the 7 beeps? I have tried going back to a
 default
  codeplug
  and starting from scratch. This did not work. It seems that once the
 bit
  is
  set it won't go away. I'm sure that it happened when someone went
 into
  the
  screen to adjust the alarms. I know this is a common problem and
 they
  tell you
  not to do it.
  
  I have the alarms disabled over the air, but it annoys me on the
 local
  audio. I
  would like to enable the over the air alarms, but I can't until I
 can
  clear this
  one.
  
  My MSF has version 4.07 SSCB and 5.04 TTRC.
  
  Maybe there's some bit banging that can be done.
  
  Jimmy, K5JCT
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
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[Repeater-Builder] MSF alarms fixed finally

2010-09-03 Thread Jimmy Powell
Ok, I entered the IPCB command, then without resetting the machine I
loaded the conf.def file and rebuilt my codeplug. This worked now I can
reset the machine and have no alarms.

Richard, thank you very much for the help.

Jimmy



[Repeater-Builder] Re: Msf5000 Low Power alarms

2010-09-03 Thread Richard


I'm not quite sure I understand your question.
The procedure puts it into normal condition. Nothing further to do. 

For a conventional MSF5000 (NON-trunking) that is, a radio always
without the RF sensor installed, the values 00 and FF are what is
loaded at factory; e.g. normal.
 
The problem usually happens when someone replaces a CLB SCB(analog)
board with CXB SSCB that came from a 800 trunking radio. It will
contain the setpoint values from its previous home.
They need to be reset to FACTORY default for CONVENTIONAL stations.

Non-trunking=no RF sensor = Factory setpoint value of 00,FF.


--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, MCH m...@... wrote:

 How do you set it back to normal?
 
 Joe M.
 
 Richard Arnold wrote:
  
  
  There is an RSS software solution (bitbang) to get rid of the alarms.
  Connect the RIB to the operating MSF.
   From the main menu hit ALT-F5. A command line bar will appear telling 
  you to enter an IPCB command. Enter the following: (WITHOUT the   quotes)
  
/1e1607160800FF
  
  it is CASE sensitive. This sets the FWD/REV settings to zero and FF 
  (infinity)
  I've done it many times, and it works just fine!
  
  
  --- On *Sun, 8/29/10, jimmylpowell /jpow...@.../* wrote:
  
  
  From: jimmylpowell jpow...@...
  Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Msf5000 Low Power alarms
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
  Date: Sunday, August 29, 2010, 12:36 PM
  
   
  
  I originally posted this on the MSF5000 board but got no response. I
  thought I would broaden my search.
  
  Does anyone know a way to get a non trunking MSF with out an internal
  power
  sensor to stop giving the 7 beeps? I have tried going back to a default
  codeplug
  and starting from scratch. This did not work. It seems that once the bit
  is
  set it won't go away. I'm sure that it happened when someone went into
  the
  screen to adjust the alarms. I know this is a common problem and they
  tell you
  not to do it.
  
  I have the alarms disabled over the air, but it annoys me on the local
  audio. I
  would like to enable the over the air alarms, but I can't until I can
  clear this
  one.
  
  My MSF has version 4.07 SSCB and 5.04 TTRC.
  
  Maybe there's some bit banging that can be done.
  
  Jimmy, K5JCT
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Antenna ID

2010-09-03 Thread Milt
It's a Maxrad.  The Ringo had the phasing element at the bottom in the form of 
a ring, hence the name.  The Maxrad used the same theory but built in a 
different manner.

Milt
N3LTQ

  - Original Message - 
  From: La Rue Communications 
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, September 03, 2010 4:30 PM
  Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Antenna ID





  THats two for MaxRad so far! 

  So it will either be a MaxRad or a Ringo. Its incredibly light, and it looks 
very much like a light saber, which is what I am almost inclined to use it for, 
if it wasnt worth a few bucks! :) 

  Its nice to know this may be frequency adjustable. I just wanted to be sure, 
now I am more sure than I started with.

  Thanks for the responses so far!

  John Hymes
  La Rue Communications
  10 S. Aurora Street
  Stockton, CA 95202
  http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn
- Original Message - 
From: Chuck Kelsey 
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Friday, September 03, 2010 1:25 PM
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Antenna ID


  

These style antennas are typically poor performers FYI. I wouldn't use it 
for anything important. Cushcraft started the design with their Ringo series, 
then several others copied the design. They were inexpensive, which was the 
only good feature.

Chuck
WB2EDV



  - Original Message - 
  From: La Rue Communications 
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, September 03, 2010 4:01 PM
  Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Antenna ID


  I figured this group would be in the know on how to ID an antenna without 
a sticker or any identification numbers engraved on it.

  I have an antenna that I found. It has no stickers of any kind, except 
for the This will kill you if you touch a wire sticker on it. Pictures 
attached are all I have. Its an N type connector and is roughly 4 feet in 
length. Is there any way to ID this with your traditional shop equipment?

  Thanks in advance!

  By the way, Kevin Custer, please email me! Thanks!

  John Hymes
  La Rue Communications
  10 S. Aurora Street
  Stockton, CA 95202
  http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn


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Re: [Repeater-Builder] UHF Circulator

2010-09-03 Thread TGundo 2003
I would first make sure the stock Micor antenna network is tuned properly. 
There is an article on doing this on the Repeater Builder website.

Tom
W9SRV

--- On Fri, 9/3/10, Tim Sawyer tisaw...@gmail.com wrote:

From: Tim Sawyer tisaw...@gmail.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] UHF Circulator
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, September 3, 2010, 8:56 PM

I'm looking for a UHF circulator to buy (or borrow). I have a mix that involves 
our transmitter but I'm not sure it's in our transmitter. We have a Micor 
repeater with the built in circulator but some feel an outboard two port is 
required for our nasty hill. It would be good if I could test one and not spend 
money on something that won't help. 

Aside from the the borrow request what do others think about this. Is more 
circulator than the stock Micor necessary?
--
Tim
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