Re: [Repeater-Builder] Can a Master 3 narroband
Hello Jim I note your message about narrowbanding and the comment about the MSR2000. I have seen no info on doing so but it seems to me that the MSR200 could be narrowbanded. The MSR is very similar to the Mitrek and it can be narrowbanded by using a kit by a company that slips my mind. Therefore I feel narrowbanding would be possible. I will be attempting this in six months or so. 73 de Tom Manning, AF4UG - Original Message - From: Jim in Waco WB5OXQ To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, August 27, 2010 10:07 AM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Can a Master 3 narroband I have a uhf master 4 that has been used for years as a paging exciter. Now the pager business is in the tank I would like to make the master 3 into aq repeater for commercial needs to replace a msr2000 because the msr cannot narroband. If the ge can't either I dont want to waste time and just buy a new repeater that can narroband. wb5...@grandecom.net
Re: [Repeater-Builder] DB224A new harness
Hello Allan As you note it would take a good deal of work to go from 154 to 220Mhz. Yes the loops would have to be shortened and the harness would have to be be reworked-shortened. This would be easier than changing to 144Mhz. I have done this twice in the past. 73 de Tom Manning - Original Message - From: allan crites To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2010 5:47 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] DB224A new harness Tom I would certainly be interested in knowing just how a 150-162 MHz DB224 could be "easily be modified to cover 220". The dipoles would need to be physically shortened and the matching harness would need to be completely redesigned. What magic do you have in your bag of tricks to manage this? Allan Crites WA9ZZU --- On Thu, 2/18/10, Tom Manning wrote: From: Tom Manning Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] DB224A new harness To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, February 18, 2010, 4:58 PM Hello Andrew and Norm If you are trying to figure out the lengths needed for 144-148Mhz I can measure what you need to know but not in a hurry. I have a DB products antenna that is cut for the two meter band that I ordered from DB Products about 10 years ago. What I need to know is the measurements for 220Mhz. I also have several DB224a's that have been removed due to problems. These could easily be modified to cover 220Mhz. 73 de Tom Manning, AF4UG - Original Message - From: NORM KNAPP To: Repeater-Builder@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2010 10:35 PM Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] DB224A new harness The unknown coax type is/was VB-83 (35 ohm). The VB-8 is of course 50 ohm and the VB-11 is 75 ohm. I hope that is the info you needed. It would be great if you could figure out what the open stub is for and can we use that for adjustments. If you need more info, let me know. 73 Norm _ _ __ From: Repeater-Builder@ yahoogroups. com on behalf of allan crites Sent: Wed 2/17/2010 9:29 PM To: Repeater-Builder@ yahoogroups. com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] DB224A new harness I tried to work backwards on a Smith Chart from the dipole to the 1/2 WL O.C. stub to determine a reason for the stub but it appears the unknown coax types are causing erroneous and confusing answers. Can you confirm the coax types shown on your diagram? a. --- On Wed, 2/17/10, NORM KNAPP wrote: From: NORM KNAPP Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] DB224A new harness To: Repeater-Builder@ yahoogroups. com Date: Wednesday, February 17, 2010, 3:57 PM I got the harnesses at no charge from Andrew. I contacted customer support and told them I had 3 fairly new DB224's (2 a models and a b model) that had water intrusion/contamina tion in the harness where they were supposedly seal by the factory. I offered pictures and they accepted. Upon seeing the photos they asked that I give them serial numbers and requested I send the defective harnesses to them. I did and they offered and I accepted replacement harnesses. The two db224's that I have (personally) are the A models. The B model belongs to my shop. I often end up with abandoned and or defective db224's and other antennas as I work for a two way land mobile dealer/shop. Unfortunately, I have yet to get any DB224e's or any DB304's, just tons of DB224a's and an occasional DB224b. Hats off to Andrew for shipping me free replacement harnesses. I am still gonna ScotchKote those moldings regaurdelss. If you look at the attached photoes from my initial post, you will see that the open 25" VB-8 (50 ohm) stub is 12.5" from the "T" where the top half and bottom halves of the harness come together, down the main feed to the hardline (or whatever you feed the antenna with). Last night I connected the Sitemaster up again and I noticed the the SWR will come down some when I firmly secure the harness to the mast with the metal tape. How far down remains to be seen. I will keep you posted. 73 and thanks! de N5NPO Norm
Re: [Repeater-Builder] DB224A new harness
Hello Andrew and Norm If you are trying to figure out the lengths needed for 144-148Mhz I can measure what you need to know but not in a hurry. I have a DB products antenna that is cut for the two meter band that I ordered from DB Products about 10 years ago. What I need to know is the measurements for 220Mhz. I also have several DB224a's that have been removed due to problems. These could easily be modified to cover 220Mhz. 73 de Tom Manning, AF4UG - Original Message - From: NORM KNAPP To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2010 10:35 PM Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] DB224A new harness The unknown coax type is/was VB-83 (35 ohm). The VB-8 is of course 50 ohm and the VB-11 is 75 ohm. I hope that is the info you needed. It would be great if you could figure out what the open stub is for and can we use that for adjustments. If you need more info, let me know. 73 Norm From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com on behalf of allan crites Sent: Wed 2/17/2010 9:29 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] DB224A new harness I tried to work backwards on a Smith Chart from the dipole to the 1/2 WL O.C. stub to determine a reason for the stub but it appears the unknown coax types are causing erroneous and confusing answers. Can you confirm the coax types shown on your diagram? a. --- On Wed, 2/17/10, NORM KNAPP wrote: From: NORM KNAPP Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] DB224A new harness To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, February 17, 2010, 3:57 PM I got the harnesses at no charge from Andrew. I contacted customer support and told them I had 3 fairly new DB224's (2 a models and a b model) that had water intrusion/contamina tion in the harness where they were supposedly seal by the factory. I offered pictures and they accepted. Upon seeing the photos they asked that I give them serial numbers and requested I send the defective harnesses to them. I did and they offered and I accepted replacement harnesses. The two db224's that I have (personally) are the A models. The B model belongs to my shop. I often end up with abandoned and or defective db224's and other antennas as I work for a two way land mobile dealer/shop. Unfortunately, I have yet to get any DB224e's or any DB304's, just tons of DB224a's and an occasional DB224b. Hats off to Andrew for shipping me free replacement harnesses. I am still gonna ScotchKote those moldings regaurdelss. If you look at the attached photoes from my initial post, you will see that the open 25" VB-8 (50 ohm) stub is 12.5" from the "T" where the top half and bottom halves of the harness come together, down the main feed to the hardline (or whatever you feed the antenna with). Last night I connected the Sitemaster up again and I noticed the the SWR will come down some when I firmly secure the harness to the mast with the metal tape. How far down remains to be seen. I will keep you posted. 73 and thanks! de N5NPO Norm
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Converting a Range 2 VHF Mitrek to Range 1 (WAS: Holiday Special...)
Hello Kevin I did not see where you gave a price of a set of Micor receiver coils. Where might I find this info? Thanks. 73 de Tom Manning, AF4UG - Original Message - From: Eric Lemmon To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2008 9:37 PM Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Converting a Range 2 VHF Mitrek to Range 1 (WAS: Holiday Special...) Kevin, Other than being physically smaller, I don't know of any helical resonator design issues that preclude your Micor mod from being adapted to the Mitrek. I am modifying some low-band Mitreks for 6m duty, but all that takes is a handful of capacitors. I have yet to address converting a high-band Mitrek to 2m, so I have no idea what issues may arise. 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Custer Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2008 5:41 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Converting a Range 2 VHF Mitrek to Range 1 (WAS: Holiday Special...) Eric Lemmon wrote: > Only one of the five front-end coils for a Range 1 VHF Mitrek (HLD4081, > 136-146 MHz) is still available from Motorola Parts. That one is part > 2480032A07, the violet coil in L1, for $ 4.15. > > The only option may be to tack on some extra wire to the existing coils. > Although modifying the tuning screws may work, I suspect the Q will suffer. Eric, I would think a coil retro like what I make available for the MICOR will also work in the Mitrek. This approach would be way better than tacking some added wire onto the existing coil or modifying the screws in which I know that is a bad idea. Is there something special about the Mitrek front-end that you believe would prohibit such a conversion? It's been a while since I messed with the Mitrek but I don't remember anything that would prohibit the correct length coil to be installed... Kevin -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. We are a community of 5.7 million users fighting spam. SPAMfighter has removed 1561 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len The Professional version does not have this message
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Converting a Range 2 VHF Mitrek to Range 1 (WAS: Holiday Special...)
GOOD AFTERNOON kEVIN This last response is my thinking about the Mitrek and is why I asked the question earlier. If the Mitrek coils are the same as the Micor coils what factor would prohibit this being done. There is considerable work to change the coils but if the Micor coils are the same nothing would prohit a person from doing this. As I said earlier I know for a fact that the mid band receivers will not tune lower than 146 Mhz. Perhaps an occasional one would be found that would tune to 144.0 Mhz but not all. Thanks. 73 de Tom Manning, AF4UG - Original Message - From: Gmail - Kevin, Natalia, Stacey & Rochelle To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2008 12:54 AM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Converting a Range 2 VHF Mitrek to Range 1 (WAS: Holiday Special...) Hi, Is there a point inside the Mitrek that one can take the audio out to the controller (in this case a Link-Comm RLC-2A)? A low band Mitrek (33Mhz) I have downloaded the information from"Lou's Mitrek Repeater Conversion" and a couple of others which mention a schematic for emphasis before going into the controller. Taking the audio out on pin 11. I would like to leave this out if possible and feed directly? Regards and Merry Christmas Kev. - Original Message - From: Kevin Custer To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2008 2:40 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Converting a Range 2 VHF Mitrek to Range 1 (WAS: Holiday Special...) Eric Lemmon wrote: > Only one of the five front-end coils for a Range 1 VHF Mitrek (HLD4081, > 136-146 MHz) is still available from Motorola Parts. That one is part > 2480032A07, the violet coil in L1, for $ 4.15. > > The only option may be to tack on some extra wire to the existing coils. > Although modifying the tuning screws may work, I suspect the Q will suffer. Eric, I would think a coil retro like what I make available for the MICOR will also work in the Mitrek. This approach would be way better than tacking some added wire onto the existing coil or modifying the screws in which I know that is a bad idea. Is there something special about the Mitrek front-end that you believe would prohibit such a conversion? It's been a while since I messed with the Mitrek but I don't remember anything that would prohibit the correct length coil to be installed... Kevin -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. We are a community of 5.7 million users fighting spam. SPAMfighter has removed 1561 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len The Professional version does not have this message
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Holiday Special - MICOR 2 meter receiver conversion from W3KKC
Hello Kevin Thanks for your reply. Your statement is correct in that all of the receiver coils begin to tune at the bottom of their travel. I have even tuned two or three too far and they dropped out with the resulting work to retrieve the screws. When tuned as best I can for sens the s/n ratio is 1+uv at 12db sinad. The original frequency sens was less than 1uv-usually about .3uv for 12db sinad. Replacing the coils are about the only solution I know of for these high split VHF units. I have in the past replaced two sets of receiver coils with Motorola coils and found I have good sensitivity as before modification. The transmitters all tuned well on this split and gave rated or more power output. The Mitrek coils looked very much like the Micor coils. I have replaced probably a half dozen Micor receiver coils proscured from Motorola in the past 20 or so years. Thanks. 73 de Tom Manning, AF4UG - Original Message - From: Kevin Custer To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 10:02 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Holiday Special - MICOR 2 meter receiver conversion from W3KKC Tom, You say you find similar operation on 4 or 5 units. By that do you mean they won't make book specification on any frequency below 146 MHz? If that is the case, I would believe something is wrong. I have seen many Mitrek high-band receivers that were tuned for 144 something and had very good sensitivity. Let me ask you this When tuned at 144.89, is the front-end tuning all "one ended", or is there adjustment to spare? In other words, can you tune the front-end without the fear of the tuning screws falling into the casting? If you have room left to go lower in frequency, then the front-end is not the problem, and you'll need to look elsewhere for the lack of sensitivity. Another question - do these 4 or 5 units tune and make book spec sensitivity on their original high-band channel? I guess what I'm saying is I doubt the problem is the front-end helical resonators, but if there is a need for a conversion I'm not opposed to looking into making a modification available, if it is needed. If there are others on the list that have had good luck with the Mitrek on frequencies below 146 MHz, please chime in and let us know what you have and how well it works. Kevin Hello Kevin You are correct on your freqs for xmit and rcv. The Mitrek units I have will only tune receive to 146.00Mhz. This leaves more than one meg to go to meet tolerance on 144.890. I have tried 4 or 5 units and find similar operation of all. This is the reason for my question about the Micor coils working for Mitrek. Thanks. 73 de Tom Manning, AF4UG - Original Message - From: Kevin Custer To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2008 8:44 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Holiday Special - MICOR 2 meter receiver conversion from W3KKC Tom, Do you mean 144.89 MHz? I would think your repeater would *transmit* on 145.490 MHz At any rate, no conversion is necessary for the Mitrek to make book specification sensitivity on 144.890 MHz. Kevin Good afternoon Kevin My need is to convert two or more Mitrek receivers to cover 145.49Mhzz, which is our receive freq for our repeater. Thanks. 73 de Tom Manning, AF4UG - Original Message - From: Kevin Custer To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2008 12:19 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Holiday Special - MICOR 2 meter receiver conversion from W3KKC Tom Manning wrote: Good morning Kevin I have a question. Will these coils also work in a Mitrek? Thanks. 73 de Tom Manning, AF4UG Hi Tom, To answer your question, the conversion will not work in the Mitrek. Unlike the MICOR, the Mitrek high-band unit that is most common has a lower tuning limit of 146.00 MHz as specified from the factory. This means that the units normally tune anywhere in the 2M ham band without modification. What frequency do you need to listen on? Kevin
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Holiday Special - MICOR 2 meter receiver conversion from W3KKC
Hello Kevin You are correct on your freqs for xmit and rcv. The Mitrek units I have will only tune receive to 146.00Mhz. This leaves more than one meg to go to meet tolerance on 144.890. I have tried 4 or 5 units and find similar operation of all. This is the reason for my question about the Micor coils working for Mitrek. Thanks. 73 de Tom Manning, AF4UG - Original Message - From: Kevin Custer To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2008 8:44 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Holiday Special - MICOR 2 meter receiver conversion from W3KKC Tom, Do you mean 144.89 MHz? I would think your repeater would *transmit* on 145.490 MHz At any rate, no conversion is necessary for the Mitrek to make book specification sensitivity on 144.890 MHz. Kevin Good afternoon Kevin My need is to convert two or more Mitrek receivers to cover 145.49Mhzz, which is our receive freq for our repeater. Thanks. 73 de Tom Manning, AF4UG - Original Message - From: Kevin Custer To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2008 12:19 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Holiday Special - MICOR 2 meter receiver conversion from W3KKC Tom Manning wrote: Good morning Kevin I have a question. Will these coils also work in a Mitrek? Thanks. 73 de Tom Manning, AF4UG Hi Tom, To answer your question, the conversion will not work in the Mitrek. Unlike the MICOR, the Mitrek high-band unit that is most common has a lower tunning limit of 146.00 MHz as specified from the factory. This means that the units normally tune anywhere in the 2M ham band without modification. What frequency do you need to listen on? Kevin -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. We are a community of 5.7 million users fighting spam. SPAMfighter has removed 1537 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len The Professional version does not have this message
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Holiday Special - MICOR 2 meter receiver conversion from W3KKC
Good afternoon Kevin My need is to convert two or more Mitrek receivers to cover 145.49Mhzz, which is our receive freq for our repeater. Thanks. 73 de Tom Manning, AF4UG - Original Message - From: Kevin Custer To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2008 12:19 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Holiday Special - MICOR 2 meter receiver conversion from W3KKC Tom Manning wrote: Good morning Kevin I have a question. Will these coils also work in a Mitrek? Thanks. 73 de Tom Manning, AF4UG Hi Tom, To answer your question, the conversion will not work in the Mitrek. Unlike the MICOR, the Mitrek high-band unit that is most common has a lower tunning limit of 146.00 MHz as specified from the factory. This means that the units normally tune anywhere in the 2M ham band without modification. What frequency do you need to listen on? Kevin -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. We are a community of 5.7 million users fighting spam. SPAMfighter has removed 1535 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len The Professional version does not have this message
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Holiday Special - MICOR 2 meter receiver conversion from W3KKC
Good morning Kevin I have a question. Will these coils also work in a Mitrek? Thanks. 73 de Tom Manning, AF4UG - Original Message - From: Kevin Custer To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com ; motorola-mi...@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 6:17 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Holiday Special - MICOR 2 meter receiver conversion from W3KKC I have decided to run a special on the conversion from high-band (150.8 - 174 MHz) to two-meters (142 - 150.8 MHz) for the Motorola MICOR receiver. This special is offered two ways: 1 - Just the helical resonator rebuild. 2 - The complete receiver redo (for high-side injection). Go here for more information and current pricing: http://www.repeater-builder.com/rbtip/hs-coilinstructions.html This deeply discounted pricing will last for at least 30 days. Email me with any questions. Thanks, Kevin Custer -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. We are a community of 5.7 million users fighting spam. SPAMfighter has removed 1535 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len The Professional version does not have this message
Re: Re: [Repeater-Builder] FS-MSR2000 VHF Exciters
Ron I contacted Gerry off list and he advised the two exciters were sold but he had another exciter and receiver. I told him I would be happy to take those. He gave me a price and paypal account which was in error. I paid that paypal account and he has not gotten any money. I don't know what the outcome of this will be. From my perspective he made the mistake. I was unable to do anything aabout it with paypal. The outcome will be interesting. 73 de Tom MAnning, AF4UG - Original Message - From: Ron Wright To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 9:33 AM Subject: Re: Re: [Repeater-Builder] FS-MSR2000 VHF Exciters Tom, Did you contact Gerry off list about these exciters as he requested??? I sent Gerry $55 via PayPal yesterday for these exciters after contacting him off list and he and I making the agreement. Hope he did not sell them twice, hi. I am sure Gerry will let us know. 73, ron, n9ee/r >From: Tom Manning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Date: 2008/06/30 Mon PM 09:53:00 EDT >To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com >Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] FS-MSR2000 VHF Exciters > >Hello GerryI am having problems with your address and get the mail returned. I have in the last hour sent you a paypal for $55. Pls send me a return message when you find it credited to your account. I am not used to sending a paypal payment. My ship to address is Tom Manning, AF4UG 4349 Barclay Pl Pace, Fl 32571-2203 73 de Tom Manning - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2008 3:19 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] FS-MSR2000 VHF Exciters > > (1) VHF Motorola MSR2000 Exciter with one channel element (T153.635). Part # TLD9242C for repeater. $25.00 (1) VHF Motorola MSR2000 Exciter with one channel element (T153.695). Part # TLD9232B for base station. $25.00 Plus shipping from 60134 (Chicago area) Contact me off list at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks Gerry SwansonN9MEP > > > Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used cars. > >I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. >It has removed 734 spam emails to date. >Paying users do not have this message in their emails. >Try SPAMfighter for free now! > Ron Wright, N9EE 727-376-6575 MICRO COMPUTER CONCEPTS Owner 146.64 repeater Tampa Bay, FL No tone, all are welcome. -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 740 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len
Re: [Repeater-Builder] FS-MSR2000 VHF Exciters
Hello Gerry I am having problems with your address and get the mail returned. I have in the last hour sent you a paypal for $55. Pls send me a return message when you find it credited to your account. I am not used to sending a paypal payment. My ship to address is Tom Manning, AF4UG 4349 Barclay Pl Pace, Fl 32571-2203 73 de Tom Manning - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2008 3:19 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] FS-MSR2000 VHF Exciters (1) VHF Motorola MSR2000 Exciter with one channel element (T153.635). Part # TLD9242C for repeater. $25.00 (1) VHF Motorola MSR2000 Exciter with one channel element (T153.695). Part # TLD9232B for base station. $25.00 Plus shipping from 60134 (Chicago area) Contact me off list at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks Gerry SwansonN9MEP -- Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used cars. -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 734 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola R1225 UHF
Hello Cort I also have a 1225 and intend to do the same with it. I hsve not yet began any work. Hope you have success. Pls let me know if you have problems. Thanks greatly. 73 de Tom MAnning, AF4UG - Original Message - From: Cort Buffington To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008 8:35 AM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola R1225 UHF Wise builders, Anyone know how far into the Ham Band the UHF R1225 radio will really go? I know sometimes radio frequencies are limited by the RSS software, and sometimes the radios... and sometimes only by when the radio stops working. I'm interested in getting down into the 438-440 range for the transmitter so I can use these guys for remote receivers controllers and link transmitters... Nice little box to do that if it would go that low on TX :) 73 DE N0MJS -- Cort Buffington H: +1-785-838-3034 M: +1-785-865-7206 -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 219 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len
Re: [Repeater-Builder] MITREK TUNE UP ACCESSORY
Hello Ted I see your Mitrek metering kit and will take one. I will pay via Paypal if you will tell me how. Thanks . Tom Manning, AF4UG 4349 Barclay Pl PaCE, fL 32571-2203 - Original Message - From: Ted Bleiman K9MDM - MDM Radio To: repeater-builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 12:30 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] MITREK TUNE UP ACCESSORY GENTLEMEN; take a look at www.mdmradio.com I just placed there a kit for metering Mitrek as well as several other Motorola radios. the TLN4420 metering kit was originally for the consolette base station Mocom 70 super station etc. It would make a nice project to build your self a test set for the Mocom 70- motrac-mitrek etc cheap and almost all the work has been done. a drill a soldering iron with the hot end marked in RED,a few tools a little technical know how and i sound like Alton Brown of Food channel. anyhow take a look. its cheap but only 3 exist so don't waste time www.mdmradio.com. tnx and best of 73'ses to all mdm ted Ted Bleiman K9MDM MDM Radio " If its in stock...we've got it!" P O Box 31353 Chicago, IL 60631-0353 773.631.5130 fax 773.775.8096 web http://www.mdmradio.com - email - [EMAIL PROTECTED] <<< DIRECT ALL EMAIL __ Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor station modules?
Hello Kris Micor station modules can be used in MSR2000 units with this stipulation. You must use msr 2000 connectors on the Micor modules. I use the connectors from MSR 2000 modules that I would not be using to go on the Micor modules. This is very helpful to save several dollars. 73 de Tom MAnning, AF4UG - Original Message - From: Kris Kirby To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 12:25 AM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Micor station modules? Can Micor station modules be used in an MSR2000 station? -- Kris Kirby, KE4AHR <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> But remember, with no superpowers comes no responsibility. --rly
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Removing Scotchkote - from the manufacturer
Hello Paul Would you do us a favor by making very careful measurements on the antenna and putting the info on the Repeater-Builder group. Several of us would like to modify commercial DB-224 antennas to cover 220Mhz. Skip May and I have attempted to get this done before and have not been successful. Thanks greatly. 73 de Tom Manning, AF4UG - Original Message - From: "Paul Finch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 9:42 AM Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Removing Scotchkote - from the manufacturer > Told us what we already knew! I just got an older 220 MHz DB antenna, > before it goes up I will disassemble it and tighten all screws, nuts and > terminals, reassemble it and goop with Scotchkoat before going up the > tower. > I have 8 antennas of my own on my tower and as of December of this year > have > been up there for 10 years with no problems. > > Also, I may add, the tower will be paid off in two months! There will be > a > celebration! > > Paul > > > > -Original Message- > From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bob M. > Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 6:48 AM > To: repeater-builder@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Removing Scotchkote - from the manufacturer > > I sent the following request to 3M: > > "What's the proper solvent for removing uncured > Scotchkote electrical coating? What can be used to > remove cured material from wires or other surfaces?" > > Their reply is below. Hey, it's better than nothing. > > "Thank you for contacting 3M. We don't make solvents > to remove Scotchkote and any solvent that is used > could damage whatever the Scotchkote is spilled on. > For uncured Scotchkote, you might use MEK or Acetone. > These solvents are in the uncured Scotchkote so might > help to remove it. If it has cured, there isn't any > product that we could suggest. > > Best Regards. > 3M Electrical Markets Division > Technical Support > www.3m.com/electrical > > All statements, technical information, and > recommendations related to 3M's products are based on > information believed to be reliable, but the accuracy > or completeness is not guaranteed. Before using this > product, you must evaluate it and determine if it is > suitable for your intended application. You assume all > risks and liability associated with such use. Any > statements related to the product which are not > contained in 3M's current publications, or any > contrary statements contained on your purchase order > shall have no force or effect unless expressly agreed > upon, in writing, by an authorized officer of 3M." > > > > > > Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. > http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.9/1238 - Release Date: 1/22/2008 > 8:12 PM > > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.9/1238 - Release Date: 1/22/2008 > 8:12 PM > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola radios on ham
Brent I have a 475 that I can view hertz on two meters. I can actually see if the sine wave is distorted by harmonics or what. It is old but works well. 73 de Tom Manning, AF4UG - Original Message - From: Jed Barton To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 9:52 AM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola radios on ham Hey Brent, the spectras, maratracs work fine. They require dos software, but they do work There are a few other ones as well. What you looking to do, vhf or uhf? On Jan 14, 2008, at 10:51 PM, emt747 wrote: Hello, Can anybody tell me what programmable moto mobiles can & will easily (or not so easily ) go to ham frequencies Thanks, Brent
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 220 repeater antennas
Hello Skipp As I have suggested before on this subject, it would seem to me that if someone would measure a DB224JJ very carefully and give us the dimensions of elements, spacing and harness most of us are capable of modifying a DB224 commercial model for 220Mhz. This would solve a problem. Thanks de Tom Manning, AF4UG - Original Message - From: skipp025 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2007 11:22 AM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 220 repeater antennas Just off the phone with my inside contact at Andrew (Decibel)... as we all know now.. the DB-224JJ Antenna is long out of production. Their "equiv replacement antenna" is the DB-573EJJ fiberglass 3DB Unit with a list price of $2800.00 each. They don't seem to understand why (at the above bargain price) there have been 36 new antennas sitting in the Texas Warehouse for some time. go figure... I put the good word back in for the DB-224JJ but it looks like that model is lost in time. cheers, s. > If ANYBODY has the data sheets that come in the box with a > DB-224-JJ please send in scans of the sheets that were packed > in the box (or snail-email a set of Xeroxes).
Re: [Repeater-Builder] 220 repeater antennas
Roger Would it be possible to get yourself or someone else to make careful measurements of dipole length, spacing from each other, spacing from mast and lengths of phasing harness of the DB224JJ? I know it would be possible to modify the commercial DB224 antennas to 220 antennas if the precise measurements were available. The 2 meter version measurements are already available. Thanks a million. 73 de Tom Manning, AF4UG - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007 11:05 AM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] 220 repeater antennas Hutton Communications made the old dB Products dB224JJ 3-4 years ago for me. It was not advertised at the time, but I talked to them directly and they made it for me. Maybe call and ask. http://www.huttononline.com Roger W5RD >From: Jed Barton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Date: 2007/11/19 Mon AM 10:42:28 CST >To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com >Subject: [Repeater-Builder] 220 repeater antennas > >Hey guys, >Alright, trying to find a 220 dipol antenna. >Noone seems to know it. I thought it was the DB222. Anyone know >what dipol antennas are made? > >Thanks, >Jed > Roger White Murphy, Texas
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Call Sign and Sounds like a Ham , NOT
Don You may also be surprised that Florida is issuing license plates with ham calls on them to people who are not hams. Several people have seen these plates with their ham calls on them. Life is interesting. 73 de Tom Manning, AF4UG - Original Message - From: Don To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 2:31 AM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Call Sign and Sounds like a Ham , NOT I found something interesting and Thought Would share, I heard a Ham talking as He was driving through the Chicago Metro area on a large Repeater System , and when I am near the Computer , I Just look up the Call to find more info about the person to see If We might have something in common to talk about I looked up His call WD9XAD On http://www.qrz.com/ and http://hamcall.net/call nothing Found , Sure looks like a Older Call and the Person talked like a Ham But now days who knows so I went to the FCC Site http://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/reports7/ Top Search for Call sign Well it came up But NOT A Ham radio call, I doubt very much if it was the Person with the Non ham lic using it, But I found it interesting and Nice to learn something as We get older, it's just remembering it is the Problem Back in the Old Days We just took people at their word , But with the Internet I find things are not always what We think . 73 De Don KA9QJG
Re: [Repeater-Builder] License renewal
Hello Ralph Things have changed with ham radio and FCC. For a number of years the + on tech+ has been eliminated from a person's license. It can get to be a problem verifying you had passed the code and now it doesn't make any difference. For your info, if you are not aware, on Feb 23rd this year code is no longer required for any license. Hope this answered your question. 73 de Tom MAnning, AF4UG - Original Message - From: Ralph Mowery To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, April 23, 2007 7:49 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] License renewal --- Don Kupferschmidt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi all, > > Recently I posted a question on renewing my Dad's > license. I received a lot of response from you, and > I was successful in renewing his license. > > Now, I'm noticing something different, though. From > 1997 to 2007, he was listed as a tech plus. QRZ has > updated his license and is currently listing him as > a technician. > > Did the rules change out in FCC land that now groups > all tech + to just tech's? If so, is there any > changes in his operating status (like what > frequencies he can / can't use)? > > Or, did something go wrong in the renewal process > that I now have to address. > > TIA & '73. > > Don, KD9PT > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > When the rules changed this year to eliminate the code requirements there is no need to have a + . He can operate on all the frequencies listed for a tech license. That is some CW only low bands, data and voice in some portions of 10 meters, and all above 50 mhz. Go to www.arrl.org and download the chart for the frequencies. All techs and older tech + now have the same priviliges. That means the techs can operate CW in som elow bands even if they never took a cw test. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [Repeater-Builder] REPCO 2 watt vhf transmitter strip- info request
Hello Arthur Any REPCO item is a Chinese copy of someone else's item for which they have a license to copy. I have a couple REPCO items I have been able to backtrack back to the original manufacturer. I am not familiar with the boards you have and cannot help. 73 de Tom Manning, AF4UG - Original Message - From: Arthur R Carlson To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 12:46 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] REPCO 2 watt vhf transmitter strip- info request Recently a member posted some info about this 2 watt vhf board being available on Ebay. I obtained 8 of these boards for experimentation. They are marked RD*3HT**X date of 2-83 and appear new and unused. Indicated tested at 154.570 (no crystal installed). Wondering if anyone might have some documetation or scematic or pinout that might help in putting this board into an amateur radio project. Would gladly share experience with this board with anyone. The board is high quality and may be ideal in a small size vhf project. Thanks in advance. Can contact off list at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Art Carlson
Re: [Spam] RE: [Repeater-Builder] Mastr II Station Power Supply Problem?
Jeff and Repeater-Builders I have found a ready source of these caps to be at my local refrigeration supply. They have a very good assortment of motor start or motor run capacitors and they are AC not DC. Tom Manning, AF4UG - Original Message - From: Jeff DePolo To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, February 09, 2007 10:18 AM Subject: RE: [Spam] RE: [Repeater-Builder] Mastr II Station Power Supply Problem? > I'm suspecting the ferro cap after looking at it. Seems to me last time I ordered one I got it from either Newark or Allied. It might have been classified under motor-start capacitors or the like. I believe I was able to cross-ref the part number off the failed unit and get an exact replacement. M/A-Com probably still has replacement parts as well if you strike out elsewhere. --- Jeff
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: dB-224
Skipp025 If you have sufficient time I would appreciate a scan of the DB-224 antennas. Of particular interest is the 220Mhz version as it seems you could take a discard 150 version and modify it to use on 220. Thanks de Tom Manning, AF4UG [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: skipp025 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, January 01, 2007 10:45 AM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: dB-224 I've got to lay off that darn "Single Malt"... You are right! But I did make the drawings for the 224 and it would not be a big deal to rescan them if I had a senior moment and thought I did the scans with the rest of the db antennas. Or it could just be missing from the web page group and in my files collection at work. All those wanting the db-224 scans please send me an email direct and I'll get them out to you Tuesday or Wednesday. If I hit the California Lotto.. might be delayed as I have a one in 53-million chance of being that special person. That is... if I buy a ticket... skipp skipp025 at yahoo.com > "Paul Holm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Skipp, > > I don't see the dB-224 referenced on your page. Am I just missing it? > > 73 Paul > > > - Original Message - > From: "skipp025" > Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2006 7:42 PM > Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: dB-224 > > > www.radiowrench.com/sonic > s. > > "rosewater42103" wrote: > > > > i need to sort out some junk. Does anyone have the element & phasing > > harness dimensions for the different band splits of the dB-224. I > > found the 138-150 split on repeater-builder. However I didn't find the > > others. > > > > Thanks > > Fred N4GER >
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Syntor X conversion to 222 as a user radio?
Mike I have a modified Syntorx for two meters. You may want to take a look at Piex.com. They are the people I got my mod kit from and it worked well. I think they could have made provisions for a control head and it would have been much nicer. They also advertise it will go to 220.0Mhz and I agree. The mod kit is very nice and well thought out. If I can answer particular questions don't hesitate to ask. 73's de Tom MAnning, AF4UG - Original Message - From: "Mike Morris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, April 02, 2006 6:20 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Syntor X conversion to 222 as a user radio? > At 02:25 PM 04/02/06, you wrote: >>I'm searching various yahoo groups looking to see if anybody has ever >>modified a Syntor X up to the 222 MHz band... I have a tracking >>generator, so re-tuning the RF preselector set, and the VFO injection >>filter set is feasable... I have not yet done the math, but I was >>thinking of low-side injection with a 150-174 MHz Syntor X (which >>normally uses high-side injection) ... > > I did the math on a Motrac a long time ago, and actually moved a 172mhz > Motran (then had a serial tag made up that read U43.5MSN-3190AK) > > Basically I converted the receiver LO multiplier 75-to-150MHz doubler > into a tripler, and ordered rocks for 149MHz receive channels from a > local cheap rock chipper. I wasn't going to spend good $ on a experimental > project. > The front end mod was similar to Kevin's Micor-receiver-to-220 mods. > > The transmitter got the same doubler-to-tripler mod and the PA deck > was actually pretty easy... each tuned circuit had a coil, fixed cap > and trimmer cap in parallel. By diking out the fixed cap it all tuned > right > up.Not exactly the right L-C ratios, but it was a proof-of-concept idea. > > A 149.150 CAP or MARS (I forget which) channel element with a > cheap crystal that had drifted low beyond use was able to be tweaked > to 149.0 and it landed me on 223.5 > The finals were inefficient enough at 220 that they didn't need any > neutralization... I was seeing a clean 19-20 watts out. > > I had the radio working on the local 223.94 and 224.94 repeaters, > and on 223.5MHz simplex. It lasted about a year before it got > replaced with a Midland 13-509... 12 channels in a smaller box. > Then a 13-513. Then a trunk mounted 13-513 with 11 memory > channels (DIP switches back in the radio) and one VFO channel > via a homebrew control head. > > Mike WA6ILQ > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] crackle in a repeater tower
KE4ADV What you propose should be practice and not an experiment. It is just good practice to ground the antenna mast, coax and equipment to a common ground. Otherwise where I am located in West Florida the setup might last a month due to lightning. You should also use double shielded coax or hardline for your coax run and in your equipment. 73's de Tom Manning, AF4UG - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2006 8:33 AM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] crackle in a repeater tower I am observing the same phenomenon on a 2 meter repeater in my area. You'll find it interesting that the BD-224 was just replaced, however on "windy days" the repeater sensitivity gives way to that crackling noise that you referred to.My theory, which will be tested soon, is that due to poor grounding static charges build up in the antenna due to the effects of high velocity wind. Our plan is to install grounding kits on the coax at the antenna and on the ground near the gas tube. All grounds will be at the same point as much as is possible.Stay in touch with me for the result of this experiment. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Repeater-Builder" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 6mtr duplexer
Radio 5000 I am in NW Florida and hope you will not throw the hardline away if it is good. The hams in NW Florida are always looking for hardline and if it is good would be worth a trip to save it from the dumpster. I do not do 6 mtr work but if I did I would be interested in the duplexers. If the hardline is available very cheap pls advise me off group. 73 de Tom Manning, AF4UG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2006 3:32 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 6mtr duplexer Northwest Florida, Panhandle In a message dated 3/18/2006 3:31:12 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: where are you located?[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:> Thanks to all who replied. It appears I was asking too much for the set > ($1200), and I have been informed that everything else is pretty much > worthless except for the duplexer. So, I have decided to scrap the > hardline and the antenna, trash the repeater and take offers on the > cans. If your interested, tell me what you'll give me for the cans. > Email for pictures.> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:> > All this 6 meter stuff reminds me that I have a GE Mastr II lowband> repeater on 45 Mhz, with WP-604-C cans and a 4 bay folded dipole> array for sale. > > > > > > > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Repeater-Builder" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] MSR2000 Boards
Gerry If the units are not already gone I will take them all. Pls advise what the total cost will be to ship to my zip code at 32571 in Pace, Fl. and I will send you a USPS money order shortly. Thanks. Tom Manning, AF4UG 4349 Barclay Pl Pace, Fl 32571-2203 - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2006 11:47 AM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] MSR2000 Boards FS VHF MSR2000 Boards. (3) TRD6302 Exciter with channel element. (1) TLD9232 Receiver with channel elements. $40 plus shipping for them all. Contact me off list at N9MEP at aol dot com if interested... Thanks Gerry YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Repeater-Builder" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] DB224-E Data
Doug Thanks for the DB224E drawings. You have done a very good job in measuring everything and putting it in a form even I can understand. DB224 commercial antennas are available here for about $25. Thanks again. 73's de Tom Manning, AF4UG - Original Message - From: Bruce Forestal To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, December 12, 2005 11:05 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] DB224-E Data Doug, Thanks for the DB224E data, your document is outstanding and I appreciate your time spent getting the details in a PDF. Bruce WB6ARE On Dec 12, 2005, at 9:05 PM, Doug Zastrow wrote: To All I Promised this Info, My DB224-E sketch will be on its way to your inbox tonight. If you don't have it by morning email me direct at dzastrow -at- qwest -dot- net. I'm also forwarding a copy to Mike Morris who several months back graciously offered to review it and post it to the Repeater Builder web site. It's quite ironic in that the antenna I documented went aloft to 310 ft. today. It replaced an old DB224 which had developed a crackling noise when in duplex operation. The culprit was a winch line burn going halfway through the phasing harness as well as a cracked dipole. (Pics below.) My apologies for the sketch delay. I have been working 60-80 hour weeks the past three months and I put sleep ahead of completing the sketch. Hope it fills everyone's needs. Regards, Doug Zastrow, WBØUPJ Elkhorn Valley ARC Norfolk, Nebraska (Highly compressed and reduced pics as a courtesy to lo bandwidth users.) Winch Line Burn <01c901c5ff92$18738860$6401a8c0> Dipole Crack <01ca01c5ff92$18738860$6401a8c0> YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Repeater-Builder" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Repeater-Builder" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Anyone Need DB224-E Data?
Doug I also would be appreciative of all measurements looking toward modifying a commercial range DB224 to a two meter ham range. Thanks. Tom Manning, AF4UG - Original Message - From: "bforestal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, December 12, 2005 11:18 AM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Anyone Need DB224-E Data? > Doug, > > Please send me the dimensions, I particularly need the harness data, > > Thanks, > Bruce WB6ARE > > --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, "Doug Zastrow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: >> >> Will do... >> >> Doug >> - Original Message - >> From: n3dab >> To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com >> Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2005 12:16 PM >> Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Anyone Need DB224-E Data? >> >> >> Yes please, particularly the the complete descriptive dimmensions of >> the harness. Reply on or of the site Thanks >> >> Doug N3DAB n3dab at arrl dot net (direct) >> >> --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, "Doug Zastrow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> wrote: >> > I have a brand-new DB224-E (138-150 MHz cut, Omni Pattern) in my >> garage. Is there anyone who would care for EXACT element spacing, >> element length or phasing harness dimensions on this August, 2005 >> vintage antenna before it goes up on our tower? >> > >> > FYI... We got the best product and freight pricing from Tally >> communications. We did get a quote from another frequently-mentioned >> vendor but they were considerably higher and were not able to quote >> firm freight to Nebraska. Obviously, your ship-to location and vendor >> relationship may make the opposite true for you. As always, YMMV! >> > >> > Doug >> > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater heard on Aviation Channel! HELP
Matthew I hesitate to make the statements I am about to make. I worked in the aviation field with FAA for 40+ years and have seen several problems you are having. One of the hardest to find was caused by a corroded pipe joint in an antenna mast. There an FAA freq was mixing with a commercial FM station and FM music was being broadcast to aircraft in a 25 mile radius. We solved this by using a DF and looking for the source. We could create our problem just by keying the FAA freq If as you are saying the repeater is being heard by aircraft then something is converting the repeater FM to aircraft AM. There is a possibility the aircraft radio is slope detecting the FM. Wish I could be of more assistance. 73 de Tom Manning, AF4UG - Original Message - From: Mathew Quaife To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 08, 2005 9:30 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater heard on Aviation Channel! HELP Hi Mike, thanks for the tips, I will gather this up. I have found that if I turn the power way down, it is not as bad. Someone had mentioned to me that my power supply could be acting up, although it is only drawing 22 amps on a 70 amp power supply, I suppose there could be an issue there. As for a pattern, I have not been able to follow one as of yet, it is very sporadic at this time. I will compile as much as I can before he gets to the site. Thanks. Mathew Mike/k1eg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hey Mathew I know it must be frustrating for you but you know there is something you could be doing to help Dave out. 1) Track the times it does this. Look for a pattern. 2) Record the temperature at the site, especially when it acts up. Both inside and outside temp and is the sun shinning on the antenna when it acts up. 3) Make a list of all Xmitters in a 15 mile range with frequency. 4) Note if this problem only shows up with one user or all users. Or do they have to be in a certain location for it to happen. 5) Make note what your old antenna was when you didn't have the problem vs. the new one and did you use a new connector for it? This checks to see if the antenna pattern has changed. 6) This maybe out in left field but is anybody playing with BPL in the area? 7) Nominal voltages on you supply when it doesn't act up and what they are when it does act up. I can't think of anything else but I'm sure other people on the list will have some ideas to add also. Intermitant problems like this can be the hardest thing to track down so all info you can gather will help Dave. 73, Mike, K1EG - Original Message - From: Mathew Quaife To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 08, 2005 6:19 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater heard on Aviation Channel! HELP Well I think with Dave's knowledge and equipment, he might be able to see what is going on. I'm certain he will find a number of my mistakes as I call them. I'm a tinker with a dangerous plan. I've talked with the EE Spectrum engineer at the aviation department, he seems to think I am riding along something as well, another frequency or something nearby. Hopefully there is an easy answer for it. Mathew Bob Dengler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: At 7/8/2005 12:21 PM, you wrote:>Best bring the biggest hammer that you have. It's back at it. There has >got to be something near here that is mixing. All morning it has been >clean and now it's back to it's old tricks.>>MathewI say throw an isolator on the amp output. This is standard procedure for me anytime an intermittent spurious/noise problem shows up. It's also standard procedure for all my comm site installations.Bob NO6BYahoo! Groups Links<*> To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/<*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]<*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Sell on Yahoo! Auctions - No fees. Bid on great items. No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.11/44 - Release Date: 7/8/2005 __Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com YAH
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Strange Desense issue on VHF Quantar
Andy You do not indicate what type power supply you are using. This sounds to me like you are using a switching supply and what you are seeing is spurs from this supply. 73 de Tom Manning azandyca wrote: I am usinga Motorola R2670 to look at the spectrum. I can see this at the RX port on the duplexer. Note that when I plug thing directly into the service monitor or replace the antenna with a dummy load there is no issue with the transmitter or receiver so it is definatly an external event. I also noted yesterday that this seems to be a series of 5 spurs right at 200K apart going down in frequency (no high side probably due to the reject side of the cavities). They are equal in strength at about -80dB. I have no other emmitters in the neighborhood I am aware of so this is strange. I am suspecting it could be related to the many megawatts of hdtv transmitters on the montain about 4 air miles away so I am going to try a DCI filter to eliminate any out of band signals from reaching the repeater today. I have an isolator on the way next week also so at least the repeater will be well filtered and protected from generating IM itself. --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Eric Lemmon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Andy, When you say you "see" this carrier, how are you viewing it? That is, are you watching a spectrum analyzer with a pickup antenna, while the repeater antenna is connected to the duplexer? Is this mystery carrier present all the time, even when the Quantar is not repeating? All of my Quantar service manuals are at my office, so I can't study the possible leakages from the repeater until Tuesday, but I wonder if this mystery carrier is leaking out of the repeater itself. Are ALL shields in place and secured with every screw required? Are all components of your repeater grounded to a known-good station ground? Finally, how much desense are you experiencing, and how are you measuring it? 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] BFR94 transistor replacement
Richard I saw your reply about the BFW92 replacing the MRF-901 and was wondering if you would know of a replacement for a BFR-94. I am in urgent need of one for my signal generator and maybe one spare. Thanks a lot. 73 de Tom Manning, AF4UG Richard D. Reese wrote: >I have received many requests for the GLB transistor. I only have two left >that are not promised. I will give them to anyone that is willing to make >a donation to OMIK Scholarship Fund. > >The transistor is a BFW92 which is a drop-in replacement for the obsolete >MRF-901. I have a PDF data sheet available to anyone requesting it. I have >been told that a 2n6621 will also replace the MRF-901 but I have not tried >that device. > > >Richard D. Reese >http://www.wa8dbw.ifip.com/Scholarship_Happenings.htm > > > > > > >Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: A Good 440 Anttena
Skipp This type antenna setup is of interest to me. We have our repeater antenna atop a 150 ft water tank but the cell antennas have taken over. The owner told us we would have to live with the cell people as they were paying customers and we aren't. My idea is that we could use four yagis around the rails with the power divided into four equal parts with the yagis fed in phase and get somewhat a round radiation pattern. Any info as you said would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. de Tom Manning, AF4UG skipp025 wrote: re: Multiple feed antennas around a tower: This type of antenna was written up in Ham Radio Magazine (rip) some years back. I just thumbed past it the other day. The math and the information to cover around a large tower with a quasi omni pattern using directional antennas was shown. If I see it again, I'll scan it and send it in. I sure miss Ham Radio Magazine... skipp Mike Morris WA6ILQ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Years ago I saw a weird situation - a pair of 4-bays on opposite sides of the tower, fed by a KLM 2-port power splitter. Later at a different site I saw a custom pattern engineered with a 4-port splitter and 4 beam antennas. How they kept them from interacting and screwing up the pattern I'll never know... In your case you might be able to mount the dipoles to the tower leg itself, perhaps with some magic distances to get an omni pattern. This would leave the top of the tower bare ... let the tower itself be the lightning rod. I'd measure the tower face and make up a drawing showing the 4 sides (or 3 sides?) of the tower, and your mounting concept. Then contact the engineer at the antenna company (via email or phone) and fax the drawing to him and get his ideas. Mike WA6ILQ Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] RG 9 and RG 55
Glenn and T.J. If my memory serves me well the RG-55 was replaced with RG-223/U Tom Manning , AF4UG Glenn Little WB4UIV wrote: RG-9 has been replaced with RG-214. Not sure what RG-55 was replaced with. RG-214 is double shielded silver plated copper with a silverplated copper center conductor and has an impedance of 52 Ohms IIRC. 73 Glenn WB4UIV At 11:45 PM 02/02/05, you wrote: Anyone have any specs and or opinions on RG 9 and RG 55 coax? I came across a repeater that has RG 55 for interconnections between the duplexer cans, and RG 9 between the transmitter and duplexer, receiver and duplexer, and duplexer and antenna. I had never seen these coax before, and wondered about their specs and capability in duplex service. T.J. -- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: * http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] DB224 VSWR Readings
Mathew Our club ran a DB224 for about 5 or 6 years until Ivan came along. We started with a gift DB224 which was inoperative due to a shorted harness. We modified the elements to 37" long by adding aluminum pieces which we heli-arced. Then we ordered a new harness for the two meter band and when received we repositioned the elements and dressed up the cables. We then checked the VSWR and found to be about 1.1:1 at our operating frequency. The Antenna was then installed atop a 150 Foot water tank. This antenna gave very good service until Ivan came calling. Ivan bent the antenna at a 90 degree angle and the VSWR went up to 2.2:1. Our previous repeater antennas lasted from 2 months to 6 months and were destroyed by lightning. I talked to a Cushcraft Engineer about our problem and he suggested we remove the antenna every time a lightning storm came and put it under someones bed to prevent damage. Our cost for the DB2234 we modified was less than $175. 73's de Tom Manning, AF4UG w9mwq wrote: >I am curious to know what others have resulted from changing the >elements and harness to the ham band as far as SWR and impedance. I >want to see how close this one came out. I know what I would like >it to be, but what others has gotten is more important. Thanks. > >Mathew > > > > > > > > > >Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Need Motorola TPN1041B
Scott If you haven't found a power supply yet send me a message off group and I will tell you what I have. 73's de Tom Manning, AF4UG wn1b8 wrote: Thanks Mike and Neil. I have a feeling that shipping will be a killer on this one. This is one heavy transformer. I'll check it out, though. That may be the best solution. Scott --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Neil McKie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Peter Dahl Company http://www.pwdahl.com Neil Mike WA6ILQ wrote: At 08:16 AM 10/26/04, you wrote: We had a major transformer failure this last week and had to put the spare power supply in. As a result, we're looking for a good Motorola TPN1041B power supply or a good 25D8274H01 transformer. These are used in the 200, 250, and 300 watt Metropolitan tube PAs. If anyone has one for sale that is within reasonable driving distance of Detroit, please drop me an e-mail. Thanks, Scott Madison, WN1B Years ago a tech for a local paging operation commented that having Peter Dahl Company rebuild the transformers was cheaper than getting replacemnts. The economics may have changed since then, but it might be worth: (a) pricing out the shipping, and (b) dropping Dahl an email. de Mike WA6ILQ, who still wishes that he had a picture of the "quick fix" on the Collins TX at KALI (10kw AM) The transformer HV winding had shorted to the case. The fix until Collins could get a new one to them was to stand the transformer on two 4x4s wrapped in a plastic tarp, and a LOT of warning signs. Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT - UV Resistant Paint
Doug There is a product you are looking for called AICKINZAP made by Aickinstrut products. Their phone number is USA 1-412-828-3196. They are located at River Road, Verona, PA. This is what the Federal Aviation Administration uses to paint fiberglass antennas to exclude the uv rays and give longer antenna life. The cost if very high-$20-$30 USD per 4 oz can. Hope this will be of some assistance to you. 73's de Tom Manning, AF4UG "Davies, Doug A FOR:EX" wrote: > I would like to build a weather cover for a small VHF antenna I'm > constructing. I plan to build the cover out of PVC plastic. I don't know > if it's an issue with PVC or not but just to be safe, is there an > Ultra-Violet resistant paint I could apply to keep the PVC from potentially > breaking down in the sun? I've looked locally in the paint and hardware > stores with no luck. > > Doug VA7DD > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Digest Number 2608
Al If Kevin is not interested in the PTS160 and you would like to dispose of it I would like to ask you make me a price. I can use something like this in my antenna work. Thanks Tom Manning, AF4UG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Al Wolfe wrote: > Kevin, > You might keep an eye out for a PTS synthesizer on ebay in the test > equipment section. I picked up a PTS 40 at a hamfest several years ago for > less than $50 American. I now have two different ones. The PTS 40 goes from > less than 100 khz. to 39,999,999.9 hertz in 0.1 cycle steps. The output is > adjustable at 3 to 13 dbm so should be enough to drive about anything. The > PTS 160 goes to 159.999.999.9 hertz and I got it for about $80. > These things are still being made and cost a few grand new. > They will switch frequencies in microseconds and can be remotely > controlled. 0.1 cycle steps will get you just about any frequency you want. > They will take an external time-base of either 5 or 10 mhz if you really > want super accuracy from say a GPS or rubidium source. > They aren't small, though, taking up four rack spaces. Probably about 20 > inches deep. > PTS is "Programmed Test Sources, Inc." Website is > http://www.programmedtest.com/index.html . > Don't know it this sort of stuff shows up down under or not. YMMV. > > 73, > Al, K9SI > > >Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2004 18:58:08 +1200 > >From: "Kevin & Natalia" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Subject: Replacing xtals with a digital generator > > > > Hi All, > > > > Awhile ago I was searching through the net, and came across a device that > would replace a xtal. > > The idea was to have a means to control or change the freq. without having > to change the xtal, and to save on the cost of buying a new one. > > Problem is I lost all my favorites, and for the life of me, can not > remember the place. > > > > The question is, has anyone come across this device? > > Has anyone used a device of this type, and how well did it work. > > One would have to make one that would go up to 40Mhz, with fairly fine > tuning. > > Hopefully prices may of dropped with the advancment of technology? > > > > I have a number of radios that I wish to convert and use, however I do not > wish to pay the current cost to buy radios and have a limited use. > > > > Regards > > > > Kevin, ZL1KFM > > Owner/Trustee "Sth Auckland Repeater Group - S.A.R.G" > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] DB224 Element Impedance Info Needed
Charles, wd5eeh I read what you said about the 90 ohm load resistors built into the DB224 and will have to disagree with you. I have worked on many DB224 antennas and modified several and I can assure you there is no 90 ohm load resistors built into the harness. The harness is built of several values of coax to match the 100 ohm folded dipoles to a 50 ohm feedline. I suspect you will hear from others who also know better. I can safely tell you this is about the best antenna design I have ever worked with. 73's de Tom Manning, AF4UG Chuck Kelsey wrote: > Resistors That's a new one me. > > Chuck > WB2EDV > > - Original Message - > From: "Charles Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Monday, June 14, 2004 11:37 PM > Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] DB224 Element Impedance Info Needed > > > The problem that you will find is the coax is not 50 Ohm or 75 Ohm. I > think > > it is 90 Ohm, plus the harness has built in load resistors. > > > > I could not find my DB-224E paper work, but I did find the DB-420. They > are > > 100 Ohm, and the coax was 35 Ohm and the resistors were 92 Ohm. > > > > The last harness that I purchased from DB was $200.-- including shipping > for > > a DB-224E. It was a full harness and shipped over night. > > > > Go to http://www.decibelproducts.com or call them at 800-255-1479 or the > > Dallas MFG. center at 214-634-8502 and they can give you current prices. > > > > Good Luck, > > > > Charles Miller, WD5EEH > > > > > > - Original Message - > > From: "Mathew Quaife" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: > > Sent: Monday, June 14, 2004 11:20 PM > > Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] DB224 Element Impedance Info Needed > > > > > > > Thanks Chuck, got the same answer twice, so must be 100 Ohms. Top half > of > > > the harness appears to be ok, bottom half not so good, going to attempt > to > > > build a harness. Unless the price of a new one is cheap enough, might > > just > > > buy one. > > > > > > Mathew > > > > > > - Original Message - > > > From: "Chuck Kelsey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > To: > > > Sent: Monday, June 14, 2004 6:35 PM > > > Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] DB224 Element Impedance Info Needed > > > > > > > > > > I've always been of the understanding that they are 100 ohms each. > > > > > > > > Chuck > > > > WB2EDV > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Original Message - > > > > From: "w9mwq" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > To: > > > > Sent: Monday, June 14, 2004 9:20 PM > > > > Subject: [Repeater-Builder] DB224 Element Impedance Info Needed > > > > > > > > > > > > > Can anyone tell me the impedance of the elements on a DB224 > > > > > Antenna. I need to rebuild a phasing harnass for an antenna that > > > > > has been hit by lightning. Any help would be appreciated in this > > > > > endeavor. > > > > > > > > > > Mathew > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] 2 Meter Repeater Antenna's
Mathew I assume you are talking 2 meter antennas, if so about one of the best commercial antennas you could use is the DB products 224. This antenna has 6DB gain omni directional or 9DB in one direction if configured for that mode. This antenna is virtually lightning immune due to grounded construction. We have a converted recycled commercial db224 which has been up 5+ years on top of a 150ft water tank with no maintenance required to date. The cost is about $500 from Tessco with the antenna cut to the 2 meter band. Best of luck in your endevor. 73's de Tom Manning w9mwq wrote: > I'd like to get some input on what is available for 2 Meter's for an > antenna. I've considered using 4 beam antenna's, and yes I have > seen this setup, don't know exactly how it is working, but there is > a setup in Valparaiso that has three 8 element beam antenna's side > mounted on the top of a tower. But as for verticles, what is > available. I have a DB304 right now, just not sure what is all > involved in getting it to come down to the 2 meter band. > > Mathew > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] MSR2000 VHF questions
Greg 500mw is a good value to look for. Sometimes you will see an exciter with only 400mw output and still have 110 watts out of the amp. 73's de Tom Manning, AF4UG Gregg Lengling wrote: > Okay not real familiar with the VHF version of this repeater, just need to > know one thing. What is the minimum out of the exciter to drive the 110 > watt amp. I'm thinking I'm a little light on drive and thus the amp doesn't > always excite. > > Thanks in advance. > > Gregg R. Lengling, W9DHI, Retired > Administrator http://www.milwaukeehdtv.org > K2/100 S#3075 KX1 S# 57 > Member: ARRL, RSGB, RCA, WERA and ORC > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Slightly off kilter ... 121.5 MHz
Neil I hope you know 121.5mhz is AM. The receivers you quote are all FM I believe. As you may know the 121.5mhz frequency is emergency primarily for aircraft. Sometimes you can hear interesting things on this and 243.0mhz which is military aircraft emergency frequency. 73's de Tom Manning, AF4UG Neil McKie wrote: > Any one on here ever convert any Motorola Motrac, Micor, Mitrek or > Mocom-70 receivers to 121.5 MHz > > Or GE Mastr-Pro, Exec, Mastr II or Exec II receivers to 121.5 MHz? > > I have one to several of each mentioned above. > > Thank you, > > Neil - WA6KLA > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] Service manual for Wavetek 3510 or 3520
Hello I am still looking for a service manual for a Wavetek 3510 or 3520. I have the model 3510 I use for repeateer servicing and have been unable to find a service manual. I have tried any source anyone has told me about and had no luck. I am also told the 3520 service manual is almost the same as the 3510.. Any help would be appreciated as it is hard for me to imagine a service manual doesn't exist. Thanks. 73's de Tom Manning, AF4UG Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] DB-304 Antenna Help
Mathew The harness was changed because it was both bad and needed changing to accomodate the retuning. Generally the higher freq harness is not long enough to allow the dipoles to be moved to where they should be. Some people have used the harness and dipole placement as they were originally but with a slightly higher VSWR. This does not give you the best pattern either. 73's de Tom Manning, AAF4UG Mathew Quaife wrote: > > Mathew > > I am not familiar with that particular model antenna. I currently > > use a DB224 antenna that I modified about 10 years ago for use at > > 145.49Mhz. I figured how much to lengthen the loops by using ratio and > > proportion, I then cut the loops and added the necessary aluminum rod. > > I had the added rod and all aluminum connections heliarced. The antenna > > has a very low VSWR and has given many years good service. This is not > > bad for a recycled commercial antenna that cost nothing but a $200 > > Was the harness changed to accomodate the antenna retunning, or to replace a > bad one.? > > Mathew > > > phasing harness and a good deal of work. > > 73's de Tom Manning, AF4UG > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > w9mwq wrote: > > > > > I have DB-304 antenna that at 156.100 gives a 1.2 VSWR at 50 ohms, > > > looks real good. I want to use this antenna at 146.925, shows a > > > VSWR at 1.5:1 at 74 ohms. What could be done to get this to a 50 > > > ohm impedance? All help would be greatly appreciated. > > > > > > Mathew > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] DB-304 Antenna Help
Mathew I am not familiar with that particular model antenna. I currently use a DB224 antenna that I modified about 10 years ago for use at 145.49Mhz. I figured how much to lengthen the loops by using ratio and proportion, I then cut the loops and added the necessary aluminum rod. I had the added rod and all aluminum connections heliarced. The antenna has a very low VSWR and has given many years good service. This is not bad for a recycled commercial antenna that cost nothing but a $200 phasing harness and a good deal of work. 73's de Tom Manning, AF4UG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> w9mwq wrote: > I have DB-304 antenna that at 156.100 gives a 1.2 VSWR at 50 ohms, > looks real good. I want to use this antenna at 146.925, shows a > VSWR at 1.5:1 at 74 ohms. What could be done to get this to a 50 > ohm impedance? All help would be greatly appreciated. > > Mathew > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Syntor X as a repeater?
Steve As Jim wrote a Syntor X cannot be made into a repeater but makes a dandy two meter mobile or base station using the Piexx mod kit. You could possibly make a repeater using two units, one as a receiver and one as a transmitter. If you desire more details of the Piexx mod you see my e-mail address. 73's de Tom Manning, AF4UG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "Jim B." wrote: > ki0ky wrote: > > > Can a Syntor X, Id No. T73VBK7004BK, be converted to a 2M ham repeater. If > > so, how difficult is the conversion? > > > > 73, > > > > Steve KI0KY > > > > No. There is only one synthesizer, and it cannot generate tx and rx at > the same time. > This will be true for virtually all synthesized radios, unless it was > specifically made as a repeater from the factory. > > -- > Jim Barbour > WD8CHL > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Min FREQ Separtation, VHF rep, No Duplexers
Tom I think if you took two Mitrek units and set one up as a receiver and the other as a transmitter, using two antennas and two feed lines with 600Khz separation and kept the transmitter power at 20 watts or less this would work like you want. In my past memory I once saw this done. I think if you study the specs on the Mitreks you will see this should work. The selectivity of the receivers would allow this if the power was less than 20 watts. 73's de Tom Manning, AF4UG Virden Clark Beckman wrote: > You know I was thinking of any possible way this might work and I > remembered something after a club meeting last night, if both antennas > were covered with a globe of shielding foil except for 10 degrees facing > opposite directions, 10 watts of output with a 100 ft. long rg-58 > feedline extension, if all the users were in between the antennas it > would work within one 2.0 meg of split and this would work for a family > picnic or a hamfest flea market as long as there was no co-ordinated > repeaters using the same freqs. There was a young ham from our club who > tryed something like this at his farm, it was almost useless but we who > saw and used it learned that many walkytalkies had one memory for the > uncommon split - like cap or mars uses. > > courir26 wrote: > > > > I'll rephrase the question, what is the min frequency separtation for > > a 10W repeater with two ants, no vertical separation, horizontal sep > > of about 100'. > > > > I'm guessing it would have to be 2 MHz or more, but that is what I'm > > asking. > > > > Please don't answer .600 and 200' vertical because that is not the > > question. > > > > I'm referring to an emergency or garage repeater with odd split. > > > > Thanks! > > > > Tom N5OFF > > > > -- > 73...Clark Beckman N8PZD > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Is there a relationship between 147.225 and 146.925?
Michael This seems to me to be a classic case of RF mixing from one transmitter into another. The cure for this is to install a circulator/isolator in each feedline. The circulator does not allow RF from one transmitter to feed back down the coax into the other transmitter. I have measured RF fed from one transmitter back down the coax to another to be in excess of 5 watts on a 50 watt transmitter. This is one of the problems associated with having more than one VHF transceiver located on the same or adjacent tower. I wish you the best of luck in curing this problem. 73's de Tom Manning Pete B wrote: > Sounds like front-end overload to me. Just my humble opinion. > > Pete > > -Original Message- > From: Michael Singewald N1PLH [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2004 2:04 PM > To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Is there a relationship between 147.225 and > 146.925? > > There are two machines on the same tower on these frequencies with > one antenna about 20 feet directly over the other. Each machine is > putting out about 30 - 50 watts. Each machine plays fine by itself, > but as soon as the other tranmitter comes up the problems begin. > > Each machine has a different PL required to key up (67 and 77). If > someone unkeys on 146.925 while 147.225 is keyed, the 925 which > encodes a pl seems to get into itself and the 225. The 925 > transmitter also causes the same problem on the 225 receiver. > > These two are fine as long as the other is not keyed at the same > time. Someone in the group has said that there is a harmonic causing > this and those two repeaters just cannot be co located. I admit I > don't know much about this, but how can a harmonic be causing this if > they are both on VHF? I would think that mixing might possibly be > responsible for this. The BpBr duplexers were just tuned so I don't > think they are the problem. The SWR is flat on both machines as > well. Also, both repeaters are new (1 Hamtronics, 1 Kendecom). > > How can I determine if the problem is mixing? If it is mixing, how > can we fix it? Would a "crystal filter" on the receiver help? > > Neither of these machines are mine, so I am trying to gather info for > the two affected groups, so thank you for any advice! > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] UHF Micor PA
Henry UHF Micor amps come in several varities. Up to about 100 watts can be solid state and up to about 350 Watts are tube type. If you specify solid state or tube several of us might be able to help you. Lots of luck. 73's de Tom Manning, AF4UG Henry Wingate wrote: > After many years, the final on our UHF Micor repeater (not a converted > mobile) has burned up. > Naturally I dont have a manual. The amp is a TLE1713 and the toasted > board is a TLE8333A. > Can a PA from a mobile be used, or is this only used on the station ? > There is a TLE1713E > on Ebay. Is this the same ? > > Henry > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Re: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola Motrac Radio]
Ken I think you have been around as long as I (40+ years in electronics). There was a line of transistorized modules that took the place of tubes. I cannot remember the type numbers or manufacturor of them. I have used several meters that had been changed to transtubes such as the H.P. 400D voltmeter. I remember there was available a set of replacements for all the miniature tubes in the Collins KWM-2. The advantage of the transistorized replacements was lack of constant changes due to cathode emission and thus lengthened the time between calibration checks. 73's de Tom Manning, AF4UG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Ken Arck wrote: > At 09:17 AM 3/23/2004 -0800, you wrote: > >Just before the transistor, solid state tubes. They are small and round. > > <---As I posted earlier, the only "solid state tubes" I can think of were > actually "solid state" diodes that were made as replacements for the older > vacuum tube rectifiers, such as the 5U4 series. I don't remember ever > seeing these type of replacements for tubes such as triodes, pentodes and > so on. Anyway, those M9394's are transistors (germanium as I recollect) > that are part of the high voltage power supply and aren't RF devices. > > But I suppose this is all moot - it would make a terrible repeater in any > case :-) > > Ken > -- > President and CTO - Arcom Communications > Makers of state-of-the-art repeater controllers and accessories. > http://www.ah6le.net/arcom/index.html > AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 > http://www.irlp.net > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] DB-224E phasing harness
Kevin The last time I purchased a harness I paid almost $200 plus shipping for it. I can buy a new antenna for $500 + shipping. If you need info on a new antenna (DB224-E) let me know off net. 73's de Tom Manning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "Kevin Berlen, K9HX" wrote: > One of the systems that I take care of has a ham split DB-224 antenna > that we need a new harness for. Does anyone have a suggestion about > a vendor to order one from and some idea of cost? Thanks, > > Kevin, K9HX > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] source for oil cap in GE PS
Joe When I need a non-polarized cap such as this I hit the refrigeration and air conditioning supply place and almost always find what I need. Good luck. 73's de Tom Manning, AF4UG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Joe wrote: > Can anyone help with a source for the ferro resonant cap in a GE > 30 amp repeater power supply. The cap is a 7 UF/ 660 VAC oil filled type. > Supply is GE P/N 19D430272G1 and the cap is GE 19A134574P2. > > Thanks all, Joe K1JC > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] wavetek ct systems 3000b
To the Group I note your info about the guy in Indianapolis repairing Wavetek service monitors. I would greatly appreciate his name and contact info as I have a model 3510 generator I am unable to get a tek manual for. This person might have such a manual as the Wavetek factory was there when they were in operation. I would be willing to buy, borrow or copy a manual. Without a manual my generator is useless because I have no Calibration procedure. Thanks de Tom Manning, AF4UG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ka9gix wrote: > there is a guy here in indianapolis that repairs and calibrates those > things. if you like i will track him down to see if he can help you. > - Original Message - > From: "ian wells" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2004 6:56 AM > Subject: [Repeater-Builder] wavetek ct systems 3000b > > > hi guys > > i have a wavetek 3000b service monitor and it has stoped working no > receive > > and no generate .I have found the high frequency synth is not generateing > > the frequency output it should be and i have found the F100102 ic chip has > a > > 1 meg signal up to the final gate but there is no output to the sampler's > > diode bridge .can anyone advise me about this chip and possible > replacements > > if available. > > thanks ian > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > To visit your group on the web, go to: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: > > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > To visit your group on the web, go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Z Matcher
Eric I fully agree with your assessment of the impedance problem except the dummy load statement. I have never seen a good quality dummy load (Bird or other similar quality) measure anything like 50+-j86 ohms. I have seen some Heath cantennas read more than 100+-j ohms impedance. About the worst Bird I have seen is 75+-j20 ohms and this was sent back to Bird. Generally if a good Fluke digital meter reads 50 Ohms at DC the frequency response will be very close to that up to about the upper usable freq level. This observation if from 40+ years using dummy loads all over the world from many manufactors. Tom Manning, AF4UG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Eric Lemmon wrote: > Laryn, > > Go to the head of the class! Yes, that is exactly what we are doing by > adding an impedance matcher. We are adding a tuning capability that was > not included by the manufacturer. Moreover, whenever you see the > adjective "broadband" describing a power amplifier, rest assured that it > will not be optimized at your frequency! > > Let's not forget that impedance comprises both a real (resistive) and an > imaginary (reactive) component. So, an amplifier that tunes perfectly > into a 50 ohm resistive load (let's assume that its impedance is 50 +j0 > ohms) cannot be expected to tune as well into a duplexer that may be 50 > +j15 ohms or 50 -j15 ohms. You'd be surprised to see that the dummy > load you measured at 50.03 ohms on your Fluke 87 digital multimeter is > actually 50 +j86 ohms when measured on a network analyzer, and might be > tossed on the reject pile by a reputable manufacturer. > > If an experienced technician uses a network analyzer to tune a duplexer > so that it is a very close match to 50 +j0 ohms, then a transmitter > feeding that duplexer should also present a source impedance of 50 +j0 > ohms for a perfect match. I think we all realize that such a "perfect" > match is a pipe dream, but we can come pretty close. That is why I > cringe when someone recommends tweaking the factory settings of a > duplexer, trying to get it to match the transmitter. The duplexer is > already at optimum setting, and if the transmitter doesn't match it > perfectly, it is the transmitter that should be adjusted, NOT the > duplexer. > > But, what do you do when the transmitter has no adjustments? You have > two choices: You can laboriously make an impedance transformer of sorts > by repeatedly altering the length of the transmitter to duplexer cable > until a reasonable match is obtained, or you can use an add-on tuning > device called an impedance matcher to counteract the reactive components > of the PA and achieve a reasonable match in a fraction of the time. > > Actually, there is a third choice: You can do absolutely nothing about > the problem and hope that the heat sinks are big enough and the > components are capable of sustained operation in a mismatched > environment. In my opinion, a lot of stations are installed and > operated without a careful assessment of PA matching, and these are > frequently the ones that die unexpectedly, and at the worst possible > times. > > 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY > > Laryn Lohman wrote: > > > ... Are we not, by adding a Z matcher, simply adding tuning adjustments > to the problem amplifier?... > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > To visit your group on the web, go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] To tune into a dummy load or the antenna...
Adi Did you consider the fact that your dummy load might have departed from 50 Ohms resistive? I have seen several dummy loads that read 100 ohms or more. Seventy ohms is very common. This is even for some high priced Bird loads. You can check a dummy with a good digital multimeter. A good dummy should read 50 ohms from DC to at least 500 mhz. You can also use a MFJ 259 antenna analyzer to check your dummy load impedance as well as your antenna and your duplexer. Good luck. Tom Manning, AF4UG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Adi Linden wrote: > I am jut playing with this and find the differences between dummy load and > antenna rather dramatic. Interesting is that the radio matters, too. > > Adi > -- >Adi Linden | va3adi | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://adis.ca > +-+ > IRLP Node 2590 in Sioux Lookout, Ontario > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > To visit your group on the web, go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re:My bird flew the coup
Bob If your problem comes down to the RF body contact pls let me know and I will loan or sell you a new RF body. The contact in the RF body is a frequent problem. 73's Tom Manning, AF4UG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> rtoplus wrote: > Thanks all for the replies. I'll do a cleaning job first and then > proceed from there. > > 73 > Bob, GMRS WPVV845, Amateur KG4WAD, LMRS WPXC892 > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: crimp/crimp or clamp/solder?
Mike Go to a hardware store that sells files and etc and ask them for a file card. This is what I do. 73's Tom Manning, AF4UG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Mike Morris WA6ILQ wrote: > At 02:03 AM 12/3/03 -0600, you wrote: > > >Crimp connectors seem to be much quicker and easier to install. I still use > >a file comb to dress the braid and a good quality Santron or Amphenol solder > >and dress connector in equipment room installations. > > >I remember the ladies at Wacom had work tables just for installing > >connectors on modified RG214 jumpers with file combs and hand tools. They > >could really put together a work of art. Steve b > > File combs seem to have fallen into the hard-to-find category. > Where do you find yours? > > Mike WA6ILQ > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] My bird flew the coup
BOB I have never seen a Bird Model 43 with any diode inside. Each slug has a single diode inside but if you have swapped slugs with no results and the RF body contact is OK, the movement must be defective if you have DC continuity thru the RG-58 cable. I have repaired many model 43's and find them to be very good meters. If you need a new movement at $100+ you can get them from Henry Radio. 73's Tom Manning, AF4UG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Virden Clark Beckman wrote: > Cold solder joint on one of the diode inside? > > rtoplus wrote: > > > > Hi folks > > > > It appears as if my bird 43 meter has flown south for the winter. > > It reads slightly but only slightly. I've tried multiple radios, > > multiple bands, and multiple slugs...no avail. Any ideas how to > > bring this rascal home? > > > > thanks > > Bob, GMRS WPVV845, Amateur KG4WAD, LMRS WPXC892 > > > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > -- > 73...Clark Beckman N8PZD > > Pursuant to U.S. Code, title 47, Chapter 5, Subchapter II, ß227, > "Any and all nonsolicited commercial E-mail sent to this address > is subject to a download and archival fee of $500.00 U.S.". > E-mailing denotes acceptance of these terms. > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] Wavetek 3510 Signal Generator Teck Manual
Ted You would make me very happy if you found a wavetek 3510 manual in you library you would be willing to part with. Any lead to obtaining one would also be appreciated. I use the 3510 in my repeater work but mine has gone haywire. Thanks Tom Manning, af4ug <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Ted Bleiman K9MDM - MDM Radio wrote: > I have found a copy of this manual in the vast MDM > Technical Library. Please contact us directly if'n you > still need it. > 708-681-0300 > email - [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Happy Holiday to all > > MDM Radio > > = > Ted Bleiman K9MDM -just tired > MDM Radio Ltd > 1629-B N. 31 st Ave > Melrose Park, IL 60160 > 708.681.0300 fax 708.681.9800 > email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > web http://www.mdmradio.com > > __ > Do you Yahoo!? > Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now > http://companion.yahoo.com/ > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola Syntor, any good?
Adi The Syntor makes a very good vhf mobile radio but requires an extensive modification. Go to www.piexx.com/synDoc/syndoc.html. This makes a very good mobile radio. Tom Manning, af4ug <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Adi Linden wrote: > > The SRA Syntors have only one synthesizer ... is used in either > > the receive or transmit mode. > > I guess no good for duplex then. I guess that a range III (150.8-162MHz) > Syntor is unsuitable for 144.39MHz, correct? I am asking just in case > someone did get them to work in the amateur radio band. > > Adi > -- >Adi Linden | va3adi | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://adis.ca > +-+ > IRLP Node 2590 in Sioux Lookout, Ontario > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder]
Richard Seeing as how you are a knowledgable user of test equipment, I was wondering if you had or know someone who has a Wavetek 3510 Sig generator technical manual. I have a generator that has gone south and my manual does not cover the defective section. In reality the doubler schematic is unreadable. Any help or suggestion would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Tom Manning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "Richard D. Reese" wrote: George; If all you need is the schematic of the PLL - I will copy it and send to you at no cost. I was thinking of parting the unit out since it has sat on the bench for over a year or asking $500 OBO complete with operation and maintenance manual. It was a back up for the Wavetek / CT Systems 5100S. Contac me direct or on the phone . 330-329-8754 cell or 330-335-0122 home. Richard D. Reese WA8DBW http://wa8dbw.ifip.com - Original Message - From: george To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2003 10:58 AM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] The most I could pay would be arount 200-300 bucks due to me already having alot of moneytied up in my own basketcase unit. I would pay you for shipping/copying costs for a copyof the schematics though. can you help out another ham? George Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] MSR2000 Power Supply Schematic Wanted TPN1191A
John If someone cannot scan the schematic for you let me know and I will copy the schematic and send to you via snail-mail. 73's Tom Manning, AF4UG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> John Lloyd wrote: > Is there some one on this list that has a schematic of the MSR2000 Power > Supply in either a .PDF format or in a scanned image that you could > email to me? > > The Power supply is a part number TPN-1191A and it is from a UHF > Repeater. > > I need to know the output voltages and the pin out that it should be > sending to the radio. I am guessing that it outputs 9.6 and 12 volts > from working on Micor base stations. > > There is a small low current 6 pin Molex plug on the power supply that > goes to the radio. The High Current voltage for the PA is connected to > the output filter Cap. > > It has a shorted filter cap that I need to replace. It is Motorola part > number 25D82253N01C and its value is 64,000 uf at 20 WVDC. It is 2-1/2 > inches round and 4-1/4 tall. > > Any help will be appreciated. > > Thank You, > > John Lloyd, K7JL > > Intermountain Intertie > > http://www.ussc.com/~uvhfs/snowlink.html > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Mitrek Channel Elements, HOW-TO?
Adi The Mitrek will not tune at 144.39 without replacing the receiver helicoils. The channel elements will also have to be modified to go that low in frequency. 73's Tom Manning, AF4UG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Adi Linden wrote: > Hi, > > I am tuning up a couple of VHF (146-174MHz) Mitreks for repeater duty. One > has been duplexed to RX: 147.915MHz and TX: 147.315MHz. The other will be > simplex for 144.390MHz operation. > > Does anyone have the RX and TX channel element schematics available? I am > also very interested in proper tuning instructions for these channel > elements. > > Thanks, > Adi > -- >Adi Linden | va3adi | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://adis.ca > +-+ > IRLP Node 2590 in Sioux Lookout, Ontario > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/