RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Seeking emergency system design help
I’m curious. Were the new repeaters the same model as the old? Were the new repeaters set up as simulcast as well? Jeff From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Andrew Seybold Sent: Friday, August 27, 2010 6:16 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Seeking emergency system design help Bill one of the losses if a County fire department system which has 6 simulcast repeaters( 150 MHz) operating on wide-band with about 85% coverage of the County, and we put in three new channels (after almost 2 years of coordination and finding the correct channels), we put them up using the same sights and same output (50 watts erp) and using the same antennas—the new 3 channels under talk the existing wide-band systems by at least 30 percent. We are in the process of adding 2 new sites to make up the difference. I am glad that you did not have a problem but this is just one of several which I have had a problem with, and I have become a believer in lost coverage, I have yet to see a system that has not lost coverage, I am glad that you have. Andy
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Harmful Taxing
Was the Repeater a republican, democrat, or independent??? Jeff From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of John Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2010 11:09 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Harmful Taxing --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Scott Zimmerman n3...@... wrote: Remember: For every law that is passed there is one less freedom we will NEVER get back!! There is a movement in this country (the US) that is anti-law and anti-government which creates such slogans without thinking them through to their logical conclusion. This is an example, just think about the laws considering such things as murder, robbery, rape, extortion, product safety, financial management, and so on -- each of these laws may be viewed by a sociopath as taking away a freedom, but they are for the good of society. This statement is false on its surface, consider prohibition and its repeal and the thousands of laws enacted every year that change the ones enacted before. The movement pushing these ideas, is just as quick to push laws that restrict freedom as those they are trying to tear down, just because their laws meet their emotional/sentimental world view. The creation of a law, including taxes, is not inherently bad. It is only so if it unduly restricts humans from the pursuit of life, liberty, or the pursuit of happiness. Yes, we have problems in our current laws and government, but we still retain the right of the ballot, and if we see problems there, we should look in the mirror for the solutions. If your legislators are writing laws that favor one group over another (e.g. the rich over the poor, corporations over citizens and natural persons, etc. -- the NRA over all other associations, auto dealers over other public loan writers) you need to let them know your factual opinions on the subject. We need laws and taxes that are created on the best available current scientific facts, not those that protect the status quo, corruption by political contribution, or for sentimental/emotional issues. A few years back, my state of Washington levied a significant tax (rental fees) for any repeater on state owned land, the legislature was contacted and an exemption was made for amateur radio and the rent was limited to US$100/yr. which is an absolute giveaway for some of these sites.
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Need source for UHF power module
The item is still available from pacparts.com. I would recommend checking the price from an Icom dealer. Part # SC-1056 Jeff From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of x.tait.tech get real Sent: Saturday, May 22, 2010 2:34 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Need source for UHF power module there is a company here in New Zealand that used to or maybe still does deal with Kenwood products http://www.pacificaerials.co.nz/ I know of no one else, other than Kenwood themselves Marcus On Sat, May 22, 2010 at 5:02 PM, byronhham hellewe...@utahwisp.com wrote: Hi Does anyone know of a good source for a M57729h-01-p. It is the UHF power module in the Kenwood TKR-820. It is rated at 30 Watts 12 volts 440 to 470 MHz. I found that they do not like to be operated into the wrong side of a duplexer. For even a short time. Is it used in any other transceivers that might be purchased for the module? Thanks Byron NJ7J
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Kenwood TOS/COS question
Is it a TK-860H or TK-860HG? Jeff -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of J C Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2010 11:01 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Kenwood TOS/COS question I am looking to a pull tone-operated squelch logic on a TK-860H and a TK-981. The KCT-19, as many know only outputs carrier logic regardless of PL/DPL status. Has anybody got notes somewhere on where the best point to pull logic out for active PL? Thanks, Jordan
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Doug Hall 4RV Voter
Have you tried here yet dheco.com Jeff -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of skipp025 Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 9:55 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Doug Hall 4RV Voter Kevin Custer kug...@... wrote: Not likely... A manual with schematic is not offered by Hall. If you need it repaired, try shotgunning the IC's or send it back to them for repair. Nicholas Cerreto wrote: Hello! Does anyone have a service manual for the Doug Hall Voter 4RV Voter? The Manual for the early DH Voter is around and hopefully still available from the Mfgr. That manual contains a generic diagram more of the basic circuit layout without the specifics related to the voting signal detector circuit (schematic) for each channel. However, diagrams of the signal quality detector channel are known to exist if the mfgr won't help you. But DHE is pretty good about customer service so try them first. I can't imagine they wouldn't be able to provide a copy of the original supplied manual. cheers, s.
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Anyone get RSS for MT1000 to run on a Dell M70 in DOS?
I use a bootable thumb drive with DOS 6.22 on a dual 1.8gHz laptop without any problems. Version R03.01.02 Moslo not needed. Have also used the same thumb drive on a Compaq P4 2gHz desktop without any problems. Might be just lucky but. Jeff -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of John Gleichweit Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 10:28 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com; Discussion of equipment manufactured by Motorola; motorola-u...@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Anyone get RSS for MT1000 to run on a Dell M70 in DOS? Short answer, no. Long answer: The MT1000 RSS is part of the Genesis Series, and was written long before the Pentium series chips were even though of. The RSS Primer on RBTIP and BatLabs both have a deeper explanation. -- John Smokey Behr Gleichweit FF1/EMT, CCNA, MCSE IPN-CAL023 N6FOG UP Fresno Sub MP183.5 ECV1852 List Owner x10, Moderator x9 CalEMA 51-507 http://smokeybehr.blogspot.com http://www.myspace.com/smokeybehr - Original Message From: Dennis Wade sacramento.cycl...@gmail.com To: Discussion of equipment manufactured by Motorola motor...@mailman.qth.net; motorola-u...@yahoogroups.com; Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tue, March 23, 2010 9:08:26 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Anyone get RSS for MT1000 to run on a Dell M70 in DOS? Good evening, Well the subject line asks the question.The Dell M70 is a 1.8 ghz Pentium M machine. What I've done is this: Installed DOS7.1 (the Wind98SE one) in a dual boot arrangement on its own partition. I have been able to run RSS under this DOS on a different machine. Run FIFO.com to disable the FIFO buffer on the 16550A UART Run RSS with MoSlo at various slower speeds with both methods of slowdown. Constructive suggestions welcome...Thanks! Dennis -- I've been wondering lately...Where am I going and why AM I in this hand basket?? - Dennis L. Wade KG6ZI Carmichael, CA
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Copper pipe rather than 2/0 copper wire
I had to clean up a site after someone used ¾ copper pipe for the halo. Standard sweat solder connections. Shrapnel everywhere. So what is the electrical properties of ¾ copper pipe after lightning has pierced through it??? J Jeff From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Gary Schafer Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 11:41 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Copper pipe rather than 2/0 copper wire 3 wide copper strap gives you 6 of surface area. ½ pipe gives you 1.57 surface area. So even 1 strap provides more surface area than ½ pipe. I think that you will find it less expensive than pipe and with the added benefit of not having to splice it every 10 feet. ¾ pipe gives you 2.355 surface area. The inside area of pipe does not count. RF will not flow on the inside of a tube/pipe. 73 Gary K4FMX _ From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of David Jordan Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 12:18 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Copper pipe rather than 2/0 copper wire Strap meaning solid copper, not copper or silver tinned braid. However, one might argue that the copper tubing has an equal amount of surface area and is more robust than the thin copper strap being sold.. if you fold 3 wide copper strap into a piece of tubing you get a ¾ OD tube. So, does the inside surface count? If not then the strap is the clear winner with double the surface area. What a hoot, Dave Wa3gin _ From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Gary Schafer Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 11:59 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Copper pipe rather than 2/0 copper wire Copper strap is better as you get the benefit of both sides of the copper. 73 Gary K4FMX
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Kenwood KCT-19 Connector Types
ZHR-8 ZHR-3 ZHR-2 Connector terminals are SHZ-002T-P0.5 Jeff -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of kc9ddi Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 10:36 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Kenwood KCT-19 Connector Types Hello - Is anyone familiar with the Kenwood KCT-19 accessory connector cable? I'm trying to identify the type of plugs used to connect the cable to the radio. There's 4 separate connectors - 1x 8-pin, 2x 3-pin, and 1x 2-pin connectors. I'm trying to identify what type of connectors these are. It seems that they're made by JST, but that's all I can figure out. Anybody have any information on the specific types of connectors these are?
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Kenwood KCT-19 Connector Types
Forgot to add the larger3 pin connector PHR-3 Connector terminals are SZH-003T-P0.5 Jeff -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Yahoo Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 7:22 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Kenwood KCT-19 Connector Types ZHR-8 ZHR-3 ZHR-2 Connector terminals are SHZ-002T-P0.5 Jeff -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of kc9ddi Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 10:36 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Kenwood KCT-19 Connector Types Hello - Is anyone familiar with the Kenwood KCT-19 accessory connector cable? I'm trying to identify the type of plugs used to connect the cable to the radio. There's 4 separate connectors - 1x 8-pin, 2x 3-pin, and 1x 2-pin connectors. I'm trying to identify what type of connectors these are. It seems that they're made by JST, but that's all I can figure out. Anybody have any information on the specific types of connectors these are?
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Best coax for marine use
CNT-400-DB cable RF Industries crimp connectors installed properly Self vulcanizing seal + good vinyl tape Cable strain relief 1.5db loss per 100' @ VHF Tight bend radius Jeff From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Vernon Densler Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 8:18 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Best coax for marine use I have been in a big discussion with the guys on my boat list about the right coax for running up the mast for VHF marine radio. Keeping in mind that we are talking about a 70' or so run going up the center of an aluminum mast, in a salt water environment, and the radio is limited to 25 watts. Also keep in mind that when off shore this is a life line and the best possible send and receive is needed in an emergency situation. So given the criteria what is the best possible coax to use knowing that thickness matters and bend radiuses may be tight? Others on the list are saying just grab any old 8X type cable and you will be fine. I say use something with very low loss and suggested small heliax. Any suggestions? Vern s/v Nirvelli KI4ONW
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: crimping vs soldering types of coax connectors
Have used this set http://www.l-com.com/item.aspx?id=20878 for hundreds of cables in varying sizes, mostly RF Industries connectors, crimped pin and furel, swept with Anritsu. Use the right connector for the right job paying attention to dissimilar metal properties, size etc. Take your time and adjust your tools properly. I have used far more expensive crimp tools but have had no quality or performance differences in the end result. Jeff
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Need to pay someone to properly install repeater system in our school
Perhaps a policy of turning off cell phones when people enter the school would be more appropriate. A learning environment is no place for a telephone. -John Stanley Stanukinos wrote: As far as the ATT service goes you need to get to the Engineering department so that your repeater system for their serive can be approved. What city are you in? I may be able to get a contact for you. Stan *From:* rddow...@swbell.net rddow...@swbell.net *To:* Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Thursday, July 23, 2009 1:09:21 PM *Subject:* [Repeater-Builder] Need to pay someone to properly install repeater system in our school We converted an old Kroger grocery store into a charter school. The building has metal roofing and lots of steel beams, making it very difficult to get a good signal on our Nextel and AtT cell phones. So far we have installed antennas and amplifiers, to no avail. We would like to pay someone to visit the school and make everything work. Any suggestions. R. Dale Dowell, CFO Focus Learning Academy
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: crimping vs soldering types of coax connectors
http://www.l-com.com/item.aspx?id=20878 -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Barry Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2009 2:32 PM To: repeater-builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: crimping vs soldering types of coax connectors I wonder what you call not cheap? I paid lots for my soldering station and much less for my crimps ($80.00) as example for coax , the current crimps have done many thousands of connectors and might be replaced before i retire which will mean 2 decades of use . To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com From: w9xt...@sbcglobal.net Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 11:01:03 + Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: crimping vs soldering types of coax connectors My experience has been that if you use a high quality cable, high quality connector and crimping dies made specifically for the particular cable and connectors...crimp-on will working very well. It won't be cheap though. I have, when practical, soldered the connector tip to the cable...after crimping, as an added insurance for a positive connection. If done corrctly and with high quality material, I now prefer crimped connections. Dave, W9XTZ _ View photos of singles in your area Click Here http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fdating%2Eninemsn%2Ecom%2Eau% 2Fsearch%2Fsearch%2Easpx%3Fexec%3Dgo%26tp%3Dq%26gc%3D2%26tr%3D1%26lage%3D18% 26uage%3D55%26cl%3D14%26sl%3D0%26dist%3D50%26po%3D1%26do%3D2%26trackingid%3D 1046138%26r2s%3D1_t=773166090_r=Hotmail_Endtext_m=EXT Yahoo! Groups Links
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: RFS PD220-N Question Regarding Mounting Clamps
DB5004S-MTD Jeff -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of n2len Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2009 5:16 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: RFS PD220-N Question Regarding Mounting Clamps Hello Eric, Sorry I wrote the incorrect model. It's the PD220-2. The side mount part number you gave me is not what I am looking for. What I need is the top insulated support mount. I can't find it unless I am missing it somewhere. Telewave sells a similar product which I guess I can substitute it if I can find a RFS equivalent. Here is the link for the Telewave ANTM432 http://www.telewave.com/pdf/TWDS-7046.pdf --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Eric Lemmon wb6...@... wrote: Len, I'm not sure what a PD220-N antenna is, since the PD220 antennas listed in my Celwave catalog have a digit after the hyphen. Anyway, the side mount kit for a PD220 antenna is the PD503. It is adjustable to mount the antenna between 6 and 7' away from the tower. The PD556 is a shorter version that is limited to an offset of 3'. Both of these kits mount on tower legs up to 2.375 diameter. There are other kits for larger leg diameters, up to six inches. -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of n2len Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2009 1:48 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] RFS PD220-N Question Regarding Mounting Clamps Maybe someone can give me a specific part number to order. I just purchased a RFS PD220-N to be mounted on a Rohn 45 at the 170 foot level. (190 total to the top) I will be replacing this antenna with a Brand New Comtelco BSLL150-XL3 which has performed horribly. What a BIG MISTAKE! Here is my question: We currently have a lower base dual side arm bracket mount that slides in and out from the tower with a small vertical pole for the bottom brackets for the base of the antenna. What are the correct upper insulated side mounts to protect the antenna from swaying in the wind? RFS PART NUMBER? How many are actually needed? Are they ordered by length or are they adjustable like the lower base arm? We can top mount the antenna, however I dont want the antenna to crack from the winter wind and severe ice in the NYS mountains. Also, There are 2 towers the same height at this site. Literally right next to each other. Should it make a dirrerence in polarization if the top of the antenna clears the top of the tower? Should we make the tip clear or not? Input needed Warm Regards, Len N2LEN Yahoo! Groups Links
RE: [Repeater-Builder] TKR-750
The service manual is in the Kenwood section of the sight. Jeff _ From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Randy Brumback Sent: Friday, April 10, 2009 4:06 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] TKR-750 I do not know for sure what version it is but it must be Version 1 as I can't find anything saying version 2. I use KPG 66d for the software. I think the later version uses kpg 91 for something like that. If I just turn the repeater on and not hold the pf-1 key then I get the screen for channel entry. I would like to know if there is a firmware upgrade and how it is done. It surely can't be done through 66d as it says there is a connection error. I am thinking maybe since the frequency is so low that I may have to bring other things inline before I can get 8 volts. Tell me one thingis there an led somewhere that tells me if it is locked on frequency or unlocked? Randy From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of NORM KNAPP Sent: Tuesday, April 07, 2009 9:50 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] TKR-750 Sounds like you have a K-1 alright. Firmware is kinda like BIOS. Holding dowd PF-1 while powering up puts it into FIRMWARE program mode. The number of decimals or periods showing on the display tell you what baud rate to program the firmware in at. Now, do you have a version 1 or 2 radio? What KPG software are you using? I must say I am a bit surprised you cannot get the VCO voltage to 8 volts, but 5 should be ok anyway. - Original Message - From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com Sent: Tue Apr 07 19:42:31 2009 Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] TKR-750 It only says K-1. Goes from 146.000 to 174.000 or something near that. I am confused at what the manual calls firmware. Is that like bios in a computer or does it also take in programming the channels. Also the manual talks about holding PF1 while turning on the repeater to put it in programming mode. If I do that, then I can't get the software to work. If I just turn on the computer without holding anything, then the software will work. Then there is also reference to K,E. Is E just another model? Anyway, what do I need to do to get the test points up to 8 volts? About 5 is the highest I can get. The repeater was originally on a frequency in the high 150's. Randy From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of NORM KNAPP Sent: Tuesday, April 07, 2009 3:59 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] TKR-750 Are you tuning the TX or the RX VCO? The K and the K2 overlap coverage from 146 to 150mhz. From what I understand the RX pre-select really determines freq coverage on those models. - Original Message - From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com Sent: Tue Apr 07 12:57:47 2009 Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] TKR-750 At 10:18 AM 4/7/2009, Randy Brumback wrote: I need to tune the VCO for my amateur frequency in the TKR-750. Does this unit need to be hooked to the computer and set in some way before tuning? I am at the very low end of what the repeater will program to at 147.060 and I can't get the right voltage on the Test Point by tuning the capacitor. The voltage is well below what it should be. ---Must not be a K2 version. Is it a K? But no, it does not need to be connected to a PC in order to align it Ken -- President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of repeater controllers and accessories. http://www.arcomcontrollers.com/ http://www.arcomcontrollers.com/ http://www.arcomcontrollers.com/ http://www.arcomcontrollers.com/ Authorized Dealers for Kenwood and Telewave and we offer complete repeater packages! AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 http://www.irlp.net http://www.irlp.net http://www.irlp.net http://www.irlp.net We don't just make 'em. We use 'em!
RE: [Repeater-Builder] GE Monogram radios - follow-up
What is the version of software you are using and are you programming from DOS or windowed to DOS? What version of windows? Jeff -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mark Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2009 8:56 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] GE Monogram radios - follow-up Jeff, the radio gods must smile upon you, then... as we've had nothing but problems. ;-p We CANNOT program a Monogram radio with the Maxon software, as said in the Wizard of Oz, Not no way, not no how! We can't even get the software to READ the radio correctly, much less program it. And we're using a mid-speed machine - probably an early P-II, if I remember correctly. I guess I/we just don't have the touch... Now if only we could figure out *WHY*, I/we'd be much happier. Mark - N9WYS -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com On Behalf Of Yahoo Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2009 9:18 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] GE Monogram radios - follow-up Maxon cables are serial and GE Monogram cables are parallel. Never had a problem programming a Monogram radio with a Maxon cable. Have never tried a computer faster than a PIII 1ghz machine. Jeff -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mark Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2009 8:06 AM To: g...@yahoogroups.com; Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com; ge-...@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] GE Monogram radios - follow-up Gentle people, This is in follow-up to the message I posted earlier (below as well). We have obtained copies of the requisite software - THANK YOU! Here is a recap of our difficulties. We started by trying to use Maxon software to reprogram the radios - bad juju, I guess. The problem is that we couldn't seem to select the proper band for programming the radio. The radios are UHF, but the software continued to report they are VHF - with very strange frequency entries as well. There was no option to select the proper band - only the radio type. These are 10-channel radios, so that limited out selections to only two choices. Neither worked properly... When using the Maxon software, in order to exit from the READ RADIO menu, the software says to simply turn off the radio. For us, this doesn't work - we need to physically disconnect the radio as well, re-power the radio and THEN plug the cable back in. And this is when we got the erroneous frequency/band displays. Now that we have the proper GE software, it requires the cable to be on the parallel port for proper operation, so now we have a new problem... I am posting copies of photos of the cable we are using. Does this look like the proper cable? *IF* it is configured for the serial port (as I have been told the Maxon cable is), can a gender bender be used to connect it to the parallel port and have it work properly with the GE software? (In order for this to work, the cable pinouts must be the same for parallel as they are for serial - something I do not know offhand for certain.) Will we be forced to buy the GE programming cable? Or can we re-wire the 25-pin end connector for what we need??? (If someone has the proper pinouts available) Thanks for your assistance so far! Mark - N9WYS Yahoo! Groups Links
RE: [Repeater-Builder] GE Monogram radios - follow-up
Maxon cables are serial and GE Monogram cables are parallel. Never had a problem programming a Monogram radio with a Maxon cable. Have never tried a computer faster than a PIII 1ghz machine. Jeff -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mark Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2009 8:06 AM To: g...@yahoogroups.com; Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com; ge-...@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] GE Monogram radios - follow-up Gentle people, This is in follow-up to the message I posted earlier (below as well). We have obtained copies of the requisite software - THANK YOU! Here is a recap of our difficulties. We started by trying to use Maxon software to reprogram the radios - bad juju, I guess. The problem is that we couldn't seem to select the proper band for programming the radio. The radios are UHF, but the software continued to report they are VHF - with very strange frequency entries as well. There was no option to select the proper band - only the radio type. These are 10-channel radios, so that limited out selections to only two choices. Neither worked properly... When using the Maxon software, in order to exit from the READ RADIO menu, the software says to simply turn off the radio. For us, this doesn't work - we need to physically disconnect the radio as well, re-power the radio and THEN plug the cable back in. And this is when we got the erroneous frequency/band displays. Now that we have the proper GE software, it requires the cable to be on the parallel port for proper operation, so now we have a new problem... I am posting copies of photos of the cable we are using. Does this look like the proper cable? *IF* it is configured for the serial port (as I have been told the Maxon cable is), can a gender bender be used to connect it to the parallel port and have it work properly with the GE software? (In order for this to work, the cable pinouts must be the same for parallel as they are for serial - something I do not know offhand for certain.) Will we be forced to buy the GE programming cable? Or can we re-wire the 25-pin end connector for what we need??? (If someone has the proper pinouts available) Thanks for your assistance so far! Mark - N9WYS -Original Message- From: g...@yahoogroups.com [mailto:g...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mark To the learned group(s). I am trying to rejuvenate some GE Monogram portables that were donated to my county EMA. They are described in the attached message below. We were told that some Maxon programming software would work to reprogram them, but this is not working as desired (i.e., not at all). If anyone can point me in the right direction, I'd be much obliged. BTW - this is ALL I know about these radios. If I am violating some list provision by requesting GE programming software - please forgive me. I know that asking for Motorola RSS is punishable by death (or worse), but I don't remember reading something similar about GE software. Thanks in advance! Mark - N9WYS From: Jim_w9att Hi Mark, Thanks again for helping to diagnose the UHF Radios. The programming software we need is for the following UHF Radios: Make: Ericsson GE Model Number: 344A4209P13 Serial Number (of this particular radio in front of me): 9250445 FCC ID # F3JSP2850 DOC/MDC # 287 194 149P That's all the markings that it had. Thanks again for your help in trying to locate the software to program these! Jim Yahoo! Groups Links
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Kenwood TKR-850 question
The problem is reverse phasing 120 degrees (Motorola) vs. 180 degrees (mostly everyone else). Jeff -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of NORM KNAPP Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2009 6:28 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Kenwood TKR-850 question The squelch tail problem with motorola portables on the tk-850 repeaters. Something to do with the reverse burst timing or something. We sold three new '850's to a customer and suddenly all the motorola portables started having a squelch tail at the end of their transmits. - Original Message - From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed Jan 28 19:55:02 2009 Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Kenwood TKR-850 question What did they fix? Just curious. Nate
RE: [Repeater-Builder] LMR Crimping Tools
http://www.hyperlinktech.com/item.aspx?id=878 Jeff -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Adam C. Feuer Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2008 7:23 AM To: repeater-builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] LMR Crimping Tools Hello All, I'm in the market for a ratchet crimp tool for LMR400, LMR240, RG213, and RG58. I believe I'll either need two tools or one handle with replaceable dies. Anyone have a specific brand or model that they're happy with? If so, where did you get it? Thanks! Adam N2ACF Yahoo! Groups Links
RE: RE: [Repeater-Builder] antenna question
Take a look at the Antenex YDAF series. These antenna's are manufactured by Bluewave for Antenex. Jeff -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ron Wright Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 4:43 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: RE: [Repeater-Builder] antenna question Paul, I talked with my friend about the DB224. He said as you did. When you get it you have to tighten the hardware. Some was more than finger loose. This is for all antennas, but more for DB Products. He has used the Scotchkote. He likes it, but noted lasted only 3-5 years. He has remove antennas it was used on and at places where he had put black tape then coated it with the Scotchkote the tape was there, but the Scotchkote was gone especially on the side of the sun exposure. He did not know what the MEK was. Another problem he and I also have seen with the DB224 is where the high side of the coax connects to the folded dipoles. There is a small think fiberglass tubing to secure the loop ends together. We have noted on antennas that have been up for a while this piece is either gone or badly damaged. Mainly a structure component. I'm giving myself about a week to think on the DB224 or Station Master. I like both, but lean toward the Station Master. 73, ron, n9ee/r
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Field Programming of the TK-370/270
Press the LO key. Jeff -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of jcentv Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 6:14 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Field Programming of the TK-370/270 I have read a post from a fellow from Australia about field programming of the TK-370, It worked fine of all the way but I can not find the way to change from QT to DQT, I will appreciate if somebody has info about this. Thanks 73
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Kenwood Repeater question
The COS signal can be changed by using the 760(TOR) firmware. While I would not use a low power 25 watt unit, a H series turned down to 20 watts will perform very well. While the heat sink appears to be a small footprint, it uses the entire frame and was designed by NASA for maximum heat dissipation (as long as the glue holds on the tile!). The Icom IC-Fx21 series radio uses the same design. Make sure the radio is mounted horizontally with free air flow. Do not stack mobiles on top of each other no matter what brand you end up using. If you add a computer style fan to push air up through the heat sink fins the radio will run continuously at 10-15 watts dependant on ambient temperature. You can use a KCT-19 cable or make your own with standard Molex ZHR conn / SZH pin mini connectors and Molex .062 connectors. If you want the Digikey part numbers I can send them to you. Jeff -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eric Lemmon Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2008 10:15 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Kenwood Repeater question Peter, In addition to its very limited heat sink area due to its compact size, the TK-760 has one deficiency that limits its usefulness as a receiver in a repeater system: The COS signal that is available with the KCT-19 accessory cable is carrier only; the radio has no signal that indicates when a carrier with the proper CTCSS or CDCSS tone is received. If you plan to run your repeater with carrier squelch only, this will not be a problem. 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peter Dakota Summerhawk Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2008 11:43 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Kenwood Repeater question I have a few of the TK-760's that I have been playing with the idea of thinking of using as a repeater, can this be done? And if so what would it take? Thanks Peter Dakota Summerhawk Yahoo! Groups Links
RE: [Repeater-Builder] WiFi interference to UHF?
Very common in both VHF and UHF with certain WiFi equipment. Antenna separation will be your friend. If the problem is bad enough there are relatively inexpensive filters. Jeff -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ken Arck Sent: Friday, February 22, 2008 12:57 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] WiFi interference to UHF? I've started deploying WiFi nodes (500 mw radios) at my various sites (so far, only one is done) and I've noticed some interference to one of my UHF repeaters at that site. The interference is only noticable on weaker signals (so obviously the interference itself isn't all that strong) that manifests itself as a low level pulsing or clicking sound under the UHF user. The WiiFi radio/router is mounted at the top of the tower and fed power via the CAT5 cable (POE). The antenna for the WiFi unit is in faily close proximity to the UHF antenna too. I'm thinking moving the WiFi antenna a bit down the tower might solve the problem. Then again, I'm not yet sure if it's an RF thing or the CAT5 cable itself radiating (it ain't shielded) Anyone run into this before? Ken --- I am Shakespeare of Borg. Prepare to be or not to be Yahoo! Groups Links
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Amplifier
We would need more information for a proper response. Are you terminating the unused ports in the LAB? If the amplifier is 22dBm then 24dBm would be normal. Jeff _ From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kent Chong Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 9:47 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Amplifier Hello, Good day. A question on the amplifer specifications. We are using a few amplifiers for our RX signal. The amplifier has 22dBm - 1dB compression point. We the have 5~6 channels input into the amplifers, we could obtain about 0dBm output power in the LAB. However, at the site, when we have total 16 channels input into the amplifiers, the output power per channel max. at 24dBm. Anybody could give some advices. Anybody could advise how could we get 0dBm output at the site? Best Regards, Chong Kwan Meng _ http://answers.yahoo.com.sg Real people. Real questions. Real answers. Share what you http://answers.yahoo.com.sg know.
RE: [Repeater-Builder] CSI TP-163
You can download it for free at www.connectsystems.com Jeff -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ASK ME Sent: Saturday, August 04, 2007 7:31 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] CSI TP-163 hello all in the group,does anyone have the programming software (version 1.08) or any other version for the csi tp-163 that they could send me.my email address is [EMAIL PROTECTED] thanks with kind regards.laurie
RE: [Repeater-Builder] MCS2000 intermittent transmit?
Have you checked for proper primary power connections. Sounds like a voltage drop problem. Poor power connections or shorted PA? Jeff -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Lyon Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2007 12:15 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Repeater-Builder] MCS2000 intermittent transmit? Howdy, Has anyone ever seen an intermittent transmit issue with an MCS2000? When I key up, it will key the transmitter for about one second then drop and then key up again and drop and then key up again until I let go of the PTT. I have tried using two differrent heads with the same issue and I don't get any error codes when I turn the unit on and it does it's self test. I made sure the their is no timeout timer defined in the CPS. Anything I can do to adjust it in the tuner software? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks, Mike
RE: [Repeater-Builder] TKR-750 P/A Failures
Absolutely correct Eric. The TKR-750 comes factory tuned for wideband base station operation. The TKR-750 does NOT like anything but a good 50ohm load. The transmitter will go spurious. I have never had a problem with a version 1 or 2 with a properly matched transmit path. Maybe just luck. I have also seen transmitters that will go spurious below 10 watts. While the TKR750/850 has some quirks, they have performed fairly well even in high RF environments. Jeff -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eric Lemmon Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2007 9:51 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] TKR-750 P/A Failures Gareth, Your statement about the receive sensitivity caught my eye. I have to wonder: Was the front end of your repeater's receiver ever aligned for optimum sensitivity on your RX channel? Of the several TKR-750 repeaters I have worked on over the years, only one of them was properly adjusted to optimize the receiver, even though the dealers programmed them before delivery! The instruction manual that is shipped with the repeater makes no mention of this requirement. The fine print under System Setup on page 2 of the service manual states: The RX RF BPF (L2, L3, L5, L6, L7 on TX-RX unit A/2) must be aligned to obtain the maximum sensitivity at a programmed frequency. Even though the TKR-750 is a low-tier repeater intended for non-demanding applications, it does have helical resonators in the front end. When properly tuned, it should at least match and may out-perform the Vertex VXR-9000 in both sensitivity and IM rejection. 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gareth Bennett Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2007 4:09 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] TKR-750 P/A Failures Hi Group, Can anybody out there enlighten me on the power amp failures on the earlier Kenwood TKR-750 Repeaters? I recall that Kenwood was scrambling around changing these under warranty when the 750 was first released. I have just removed one from service that was only pushing 15 Watts @ 7 Amps (Set for High power). This particular repeater has already suffered dry joints around the PA stage which was not the cause of fault this time. Can any Kenwood dealers shed some light on this common problem and suggest the replacement P/A part number for around 150-160 MHz? Interestingly we replaced the -750 with a Vertex VXR-9000 repeater and commissioning tests revealed about 3 dB better sensitivity than the 750's for 12dB Sinad. Regards _ Gareth Bennett
RE: [Repeater-Builder] ic 221
Read and save each radio programming. Then swap the programming. Jeff -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Loren James Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2007 11:12 AM To: Repeater Builder Subject: [Repeater-Builder] ic 221 greetings, I have a pair of 221s radio's. they were a repeater pair. the tx radio lost the power output so I have switched the roles of the radio's. I would wonder if anyone can help me with the programming of these radio's. I have the program and the box to connect to the radio. thanks, Loren.
RE: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Relm RPV599A programming help needed
Same as a Kenwood TK-270K. Jeff -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of n9lv Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2007 4:48 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Relm RPV599A programming help needed Sorry for the off topic, but does anyone know how to get into the front panel programming on this radio? I held in the monitor button but that does not work. Thanks. Mathew Yahoo! Groups Links
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Antennas that work both in commercial and amateur
There are a number of old post on this subject. Take a look at the 4 bay dipole antennas from Antenex (made by Bluewave). VERY broadband. As for whether or not they are expensive is a matter of personal opinion. Jeff -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jed Barton Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2007 12:14 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Antennas that work both in commercial and amateur Hey guys, I need some suggestions. I need a vhf and a uhf antena. Here's the requirement. I'm planning to operate both amateur and commercial stuff from the house. I'd rather not use a ham antenna in the commercial bands. Are there some that'll do the 136 to 174 split, and some UHF that'll do like 439 to 490? Any ideas? Thanks, Jed
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Kenwood TKR750v2
Yes, the TA remains hot but I need flat audio. I can call Kenwood tomorrow but was hoping to finish this tonight. It could be a firmware problem. I can't imagine why they would purposely mute the line when QT encode is programmed. Jeff -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ken Arck Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2007 6:17 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Kenwood TKR750v2 At 06:05 PM 1/23/2007, you wrote: I have a TKR-750v2 base/repeater and attempting to connect it to a DSP223 control panel. The problem I am having is if the base is programmed with encode QT/DQT it mutes the (TD) TX data input line when the (EPTT) External PTT is used. Hoping someone has run into this. ---Are you wanting to use flat audio in and that's why you're using the TD for audio instead of TA? Ken -- President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of the world famous RC210 Repeater Controller and accessories. http://www.ah6le.net/arcom/index.html Authorized Dealers for Kenwood and Telewave and we offer complete repeater packages! AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 http://www.irlp.net
