Re: auto erase tapes
Michael, Try making a storage set for each tape you want to use in your backup script. If your backup script is set to "full" or "recycle" (depending on your version of retro) the backup script will overwrite the tape when it's re-inserted. Mark MICHAEL PRUSSE [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 02/20/01 04:38 PM Please respond to "retro-talk" To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:auto erase tapes I can't seem to find any documentation on how to have tapes automatically erased when a script starts. Right now the backup script requests new media names "xxx" or erased. How can I set up my backup script to automatically erase a tape? I do full backups to a different tape every day and want to get away from having to erase those tapes manually. -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ Search: http://www.mail-archive.com/retro-talk%40latchkey.com/ For urgent issues, please contact Dantz technical support directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 925.253.3050.
error 5 (unknown) on Windows client
Greetings all. Just in the last couple of days, one of my Windows clients has started returning the following error message: "Can't access volume DISK (C:) on WIN_CLIENT, error 5 (unknown)" The client computer is running Windows 98 with Retro client 5.1 for windows. The backup station is a Mac Workgroup Server 8150 running MacOS 8.5.1 and Retro 4.3. (The ASIP software is no longer running on this machine) I have searched Dantz's site for info on this error message, but to no avail. Hopefully someone here will have some insight. TIA, | Doug Starkey | | Network Administrator| | Pecan Deluxe Candy Company | | 2570 Lone Star Drive | | Dallas, TX 75212-6308| | e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | voice: 214-631-3669 Ext. 108 | | fax: 214-631-5833| -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ Search: http://www.mail-archive.com/retro-talk%40latchkey.com/ For urgent issues, please contact Dantz technical support directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 925.253.3050.
Re: G4s and error 519 - AN UPDATE
Here's an oddity. I used to get a lot of 519 errors when I had DAT tape changers, but since switching to DLT I hardly have any problems and the problems I do have are directly related to the end users machine. I ran DLT on a mixed 10BaseT with Hubs and switches for about 6 months before I moved to a new building and have 10/100 switched (Cisco 5500's) network. All of the machines I back up now are 100BaseT full Duplex. The Mac I was doing the backups on is a 9600/G4-450. The machine I am currently doing the backups on is a 7600/G3-250. I built a cable to connect the external DLT drive to the internal SCSI bus. because the internal bus is SCSI-2 Fast (10MB/sec) while the external connector is only SCSI-2 (5MB/Sec). The speed difference between the two machines only dropped 2-3MB/min on average (averaging about 100MB/min). The 7600 is a good combination. Low volume Filemaker Server during the day, Retrospect backups at night. One of the previous messages indicated the problem occuring on a 10T network, otherwise I'd suspect the (presumably OT) problem might be getting exposed by the higher throughput now that the G3 backup machine is on 100T, as the G4 has always been. Can anyone else confirm seeing the problem on a 10T only network? Absolutley - we see it on a 10T unswitched network that can be as slow as...insert your favourite cliche here... that said it does seem to fail more often when there is less overall network traffic (ie the middle of the night) and the throughput is higher. No 519s using AppleTalk (and I have checked and all the G4s have different node numbers so that is not the problem in our case) Our backup machine is 7300/180 with an AdvanSys UltraWide SCSI card to a Sony DDS-4 drive. Adrian Smith -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ Search: http://www.mail-archive.com/retro-talk%40latchkey.com/ For urgent issues, please contact Dantz technical support directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 925.253.3050.
Re: tape or hard drive?
At 10:52 AM -0500 02/21/2001, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Should I go with a tape system for backing up, or stick with a hd? I've always found it more affordable to do multiple backups to tape instead of convincing others to purchase multiple HDs. Stephen K. Suh __ Network Admin Tel 613/228-0250 SCG Studio Colour Group Inc. Fax 613/228-0254 6 Gurdwara Road, Suite 105 Ottawa, ON K2E 8A3 Canada [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ Search: http://www.mail-archive.com/retro-talk%40latchkey.com/ For urgent issues, please contact Dantz technical support directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 925.253.3050.
Re: tape or hard drive?
I personally would get a buslink USB hard drive (or two or howevermany you need.) I might get some flack for suggesting this but It works great and its cheaper than tape. You also never have to change a tape. The only thing to be leary about is its extention. being yet another 3rd party extention it might not play well with some. I have tested this in two different situations and it works great. We backup maybe 60 gigs just about every day. This translates to 48 or so gigs (after 2 months) with Retros compression on. My next step is to impliment another one of these drives and start a rotating backup scheme so I can keep a copy off site. ( if anyone has a step by step for this I'd appreciate it. ) This single Hard Drive has been backing up for about two months and can probably go for about another month before I will have to either re-write it or switch to another HD. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been using an external SCSI hd for my backups for over a year, and all has been going swimmingly -- 'til a few days ago when I inadvertently shut off the external before the system had properly shut it down. The 'wrapper' and a couple of places on the 'extent' files were blown, damaged beyond fixing. I urgently need a replacement. Now that I have the option, my dilemma is: Should I go with a tape system for backing up, or stick with a hd? How long does a tape last before it gets stretched, or worn beyond useability? I'm using a G4/400/9.0.4 ... a single user, not on any network. Would very much appreciate any and all feedback from yr personal experience re: 1) tape or hd, and 2) specifically WCH tape system y'all are most satisfied with, as I've never used one before. Retrospect is TERRIFIC, and so at least ONE part of my solution is already in place. TIA, -- Donovan D. Brooke Systems Administrator/ Assc. Art Director Epsen Hillmer Graphics "When 900 years old you reach, look as good you will not, hm?" -Yoda
519 Error disconnects ASIP server
Just encountered a bad situation. I had turned off file and mail servers on my ASIP server to run a RS backup. During the backup something happened and RS shows a 519 error and of course quit backing up. Upon checking on the server, I discovered that it was running just fine, but no longer thought that it was connected to ethernet. Trying to reconnect it from the CP was futile, as it would never make the connection. I was forced to restart the server to reestablish a network connection. Backups of Share points have been occurring flawlessly for some time. Anyone have a clue what might have happened and how to prevent this in the future? We had been having trouble with backups failing and thought that we had solved the problem (bad VXA drive), but some of the symptoms earlier are frighteningly similar to what just occurred. Configuration: ASIP 6.3.3 on G4 with 9.0.4 with the latest upgrades. RS 4.3 running on a separate Mac (ASIP is a client). Server had been up for 10 days when this occurred. -- Bob Durst Note my new e-mail address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please update your address book to reflect the change. Visit my web site: http://fst.orst.edu/bob_durst/ -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ Search: http://www.mail-archive.com/retro-talk%40latchkey.com/ For urgent issues, please contact Dantz technical support directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 925.253.3050.
Re: error 5 (unknown) on Windows client
Just in the last couple of days, one of my Windows clients has started returning the following error message: "Can't access volume DISK (C:) on WIN_CLIENT, error 5 (unknown)" The client computer is running Windows 98 with Retro client 5.1 for windows. Anytime I have retro not finding a disk I do the following. It almost always fixes the problem. I have all my clients volumes set up via the Selected volumes option in the client configuration window. Hilite all the volumes. Hit Delete and answer yes. What will be left are the one that the client can see at this time. Hilite all of these and go fix your backup scripts and groups as needed. -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ Search: http://www.mail-archive.com/retro-talk%40latchkey.com/ For urgent issues, please contact Dantz technical support directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 925.253.3050.
Re: tape or hard drive?
on 22/2/01 2:52 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Should I go with a tape system for backing up, or stick with a hd? Not really an easy question to answer because selecting appropriate media depends a lot on how much data needs to be backed up. Personally I like to use both. My general strategy is to have a 2nd disk with sufficient capacity to hold a full backup and a week of nightly incrementals. At the end of the week I do a backup to tape then recycle the disk based storage sets. I cycle the tapes off site. Depending on the capacity of the tape, the end of week tape may be a full backup or it may be a backup of the backup disk. In developing a backup strategy its always a compromise between cost and potential to lose data. Cheers, Malcolm -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ Search: http://www.mail-archive.com/retro-talk%40latchkey.com/ For urgent issues, please contact Dantz technical support directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 925.253.3050.
Re: tape or hard drive?
Hey Erik, your point about the "...6months ago..." is true!. This is why we have elected to get yet another USB drive when it comes to it. The 3rd drive will always be an old back-up. 3 drives will cost us $1200.00. We think this will provide the security we need and still for less cost than tape. However, its a pretty ambiguous decision. ie...Firetape is $800 and each tape is $250 (from pre-release article) Tapes are 50 gigs as apposed to the HD's being 60. I think you get one free tape with the Firetape. So, it would cost a total of almost $1600 (4 tapes) which would give you a bit more space. A little cheaper to go with HD's... but not much. Erik Ableson wrote: Back to the list after a long absence - the only issue with hard drive solutions is that they are not complete backup solutions since if anything truly disastrous happens (theft, fire etc) all your data is in one place. Multiple HD's rotated off-site will take care of this but in the long run, tape becomes cheaper when you start keeping redundant copies - and they've saved my bacon a few times! Combining them makes for the best of both worlds in terms of data security with a local HD mirror for the quick accidental delete/system crash restores, and tape to handle the long term issues - "umm that project I worked on 6 months ago is gone". Plus having tapes around gives you a nice archival option to free up disk space.. Cheers, ErikFeeling desperately insecure since he isn't following his own advice at home :) - Original Message - From:Donovan Brooke To: retro-talk Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2001 5:04 PM Subject: Re: tape or hard drive? I personally would get a[snip] Donovan
Re: tape or hard drive?
thanks very much for taking the time to share yr backup strategy with me, Malcom -- excellent ideas, since I basically have had no overall efficient strategy myself! i like yr idea of using a disc for increments, then weekly backing to tape. I'll also do off-site storage for one backup set this time, too. many thanks, - ilyes PS: I know there are many hi-end tape drives out there, but d'you know of a reliable one in the $300-range? -- "One who knows the secret of Sound knows the Mystery of the Universe." -- Hazrat Inayat Khan -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ Search: http://www.mail-archive.com/retro-talk%40latchkey.com/ For urgent issues, please contact Dantz technical support directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 925.253.3050.
RE: user deferred?
I was just looking through my log file and I notice that there are a lot of entries for a user that say that the user was deferred every 4 minutes yesterday from 9:48am to 4:48 pm. I have seen this before with different users. Does anyone know why this happens? What is going on? Sounds like the user clicked "Defer" and then didn't enter a time. -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ Search: http://www.mail-archive.com/retro-talk%40latchkey.com/ For urgent issues, please contact Dantz technical support directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 925.253.3050.
Re: user deferred?
I've seen this happen with MacOS 9 and Multiple users installed and running. I removed Multiple users from all the Macs I use and it now works fine. Perhaps Dantz has a better solution though? I was just looking through my log file and I notice that there are a lot of entries for a user that say that the user was deferred every 4 minutes yesterday from 9:48am to 4:48 pm. I have seen this before with different users. Does anyone know why this happens? What is going on? thanks. -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ Search: http://www.mail-archive.com/retro-talk%40latchkey.com/ For urgent issues, please contact Dantz technical support directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 925.253.3050.
RE: user deferred?
Does anyone know why this happens? What is going on? Sounds like the user clicked "Defer" and then didn't enter a time. The only problem with this theory is that the users are not at their desk when it happens. Believe me, that's one troubleshooting step I took. I walked up to their machine a few minutes before it was suppose to backup and watched. Nobody but me even close to the Mac, and the Mac doesn't even come up and give the dialog box asking if they want to defer or not. Went back to the server after about 10 minutes and the log said "User Deferred". I'm guessing that, like me, Gary probably starts his backups late at night when nobody is around. My users are 8-5'ers and if they are here at 5:05, it's because they are warming up their cars. ;) Matt -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ Search: http://www.mail-archive.com/retro-talk%40latchkey.com/ For urgent issues, please contact Dantz technical support directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 925.253.3050.