Re: [rt-users] Help on discouraging migration to Remedy

2011-01-17 Thread Natxo Asenjo
On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 10:51 PM, Dennis daoden...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 3:49 AM, Guadagnino Cristiano
 guadagnino.cristi...@creval.it wrote:
 Hi all,

 Hi,

 What are the reasons they want to move to Remedy, are there certain
 requirements or integrations with other software that would be too
 difficult to implement otherwise with RT?

probably because of the asset management capabilities? I've seen this
happen with another solution, topdesk (quite popular in NL).

No, asset tracker does not cut it here.

As much as I like RT, without a good asset tracking integration it
will lose lots of market in the smb segment.

-- 
natxo


Re: [rt-users] Help on discouraging migration to Remedy

2011-01-17 Thread Lev Lafayette
- Original Message -
 On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 10:51 PM, Dennis daoden...@gmail.com wrote:
  On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 3:49 AM, Guadagnino Cristiano
  guadagnino.cristi...@creval.it wrote:
 
 probably because of the asset management capabilities? I've seen this
 happen with another solution, topdesk (quite popular in NL).
 
 No, asset tracker does not cut it here.
 
 As much as I like RT, without a good asset tracking integration it
 will lose lots of market in the smb segment.

A simple start in this regard is adding custom fields, or even a queue.

At least all the  tickets relating to a particular asset can be tracked
that way.

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Re: [rt-users] Help on discouraging migration to Remedy

2011-01-12 Thread Kenneth Crocker
Guadagnino,

Wouldn't it be better to provide a list of their requirements and show how,
by its flexible design, RT meets those requirements better than Request?

Kenn
LBNL

On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 3:49 AM, Guadagnino Cristiano 
guadagnino.cristi...@creval.it wrote:

 Hi all,

 unfortunately it seems my bosses are determined to migrate away from RT to
 Remedy.

 I am equally determined to show them they took the wrong decision.

 Let alone the obvious argument that RT is free, could you help me gather
 documentation on companies (best if BIG companies) migrating AWAY from
 Remedy? It does not matter if they are migrating to RT, though it would
 abviously be better.



 I did my homework and already sent some evidence, but there may be more
 publically redistributable documents that are not available on the web.



 Thank you in advance.



 Bye

 Cris



Re: [rt-users] Help on discouraging migration to Remedy

2011-01-12 Thread Josh Narins
Another couple things, Remedy is propriety and inflexible, RT is infinitely 
malleable.

And Remedy works well with... wait for it... ClearCase! RT with subversion. You 
didn't mention which you were using.

Then buy some books on Remedy, put them in a stack, and say Well, who do I 
bill for the time to read these?

Generally, however, if management is set on doing something, you have to make 
them think it was their idea not to, right? Judo.




Josh Narins

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SeniorBridge
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7th Floor
New York, NY 10022
Tel: (212) 994-6194
Fax: (212) 994-4260
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Guadagnino,

Wouldn't it be better to provide a list of their requirements and show how, by 
its flexible design, RT meets those requirements better than Request?

Kenn
LBNL
On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 3:49 AM, Guadagnino Cristiano 
guadagnino.cristi...@creval.itmailto:guadagnino.cristi...@creval.it wrote:
Hi all,
unfortunately it seems my bosses are determined to migrate away from RT to 
Remedy.
I am equally determined to show them they took the wrong decision.
Let alone the obvious argument that RT is free, could you help me gather 
documentation on companies (best if BIG companies) migrating AWAY from Remedy? 
It does not matter if they are migrating to RT, though it would abviously be 
better.

I did my homework and already sent some evidence, but there may be more 
publically redistributable documents that are not available on the web.

Thank you in advance.

Bye
Cris



Re: [rt-users] Help on discouraging migration to Remedy

2011-01-12 Thread Matthew Hattersley
 

It's either that or implement Remedy with extreme lacklustre and clap
slowly when one of the bosses complains that 'x' feature is missing.


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Narins
Sent: 12 January 2011 20:13
To: rt-users@lists.bestpractical.com
Subject: Re: [rt-users] Help on discouraging migration to Remedy

 

Another couple things, Remedy is propriety and inflexible, RT is
infinitely malleable.

 

And Remedy works well with... wait for it... ClearCase! RT with
subversion. You didn't mention which you were using.

 

Then buy some books on Remedy, put them in a stack, and say Well, who
do I bill for the time to read these?

 

Generally, however, if management is set on doing something, you have to
make them think it was their idea not to, right? Judo.

 

 

Josh Narins

Director of Application Development
SeniorBridge
845 Third Ave
7th Floor
New York, NY 10022 
Tel: (212) 994-6194 
Fax: (212) 994-4260 
Mobile: (917) 488-6248
jnar...@seniorbridge.com
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Crocker
Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2011 3:08 PM
To: rt-users@lists.bestpractical.com
Subject: Re: [rt-users] Help on discouraging migration to Remedy

 

Guadagnino,

Wouldn't it be better to provide a list of their requirements and show
how, by its flexible design, RT meets those requirements better than
Request?

Kenn
LBNL

On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 3:49 AM, Guadagnino Cristiano
guadagnino.cristi...@creval.it wrote:

Hi all,

unfortunately it seems my bosses are determined to migrate away from RT
to Remedy.

I am equally determined to show them they took the wrong decision.

Let alone the obvious argument that RT is free, could you help me gather
documentation on companies (best if BIG companies) migrating AWAY from
Remedy? It does not matter if they are migrating to RT, though it would
abviously be better.

 

I did my homework and already sent some evidence, but there may be more
publically redistributable documents that are not available on the web.

 

Thank you in advance.

 

Bye

Cris

 

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Re: [rt-users] Help on discouraging migration to Remedy

2011-01-12 Thread Gary Greene
As someone whom has had the displeasure of working on the upgrade/migration
of previous versions of Remedy at a previous employer, I can say that they
don¹t support UNIX worth squat. We tried to get Remedy working on a newer
RHEL than RHEL 2.1 and just could not get it to work. In the end we had to
install Remedy on top of Windows Server 2003.


On 12/1/11 12:19 PM, Matthew Hattersley matthew.hatters...@vaioni.com
wrote:

  
 It¹s either that or implement Remedy with extreme lacklustre and clap slowly
 when one of the bosses complains that Œx¹ feature is missing.
 
 Kind Regards,
 
 
 
 Matthew Hattersley
 
 Email: matthew.hatters...@vaioni.com
 
 Mobile:
 
  
 
 Address: 14 Leslie Hough Way
 
 Manchester
 
 Lancashire
 
  M6 6AJ
 
  
 
 Tel:   0870-160-0650 Ext 201
 
 Fax:   0870-160-0651
 
 Web:  www.vaioni.com http://www.vaioni.com
 
  http://www.vaioni.com/vaioni-comms-business-finalist-2010
 
  
 
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 person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or
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 From: rt-users-boun...@lists.bestpractical.com
 [mailto:rt-users-boun...@lists.bestpractical.com] On Behalf Of Josh Narins
 Sent: 12 January 2011 20:13
 To: rt-users@lists.bestpractical.com
 Subject: Re: [rt-users] Help on discouraging migration to Remedy
  
 Another couple things, Remedy is propriety and inflexible, RT is infinitely
 malleable.
  
 And Remedy works well withŠ wait for itŠ ClearCase! RT with subversion. You
 didn't mention which you were using.
  
 Then buy some books on Remedy, put them in a stack, and say Well, who do I
 bill for the time to read these?
  
 Generally, however, if management is set on doing something, you have to make
 them think it was their idea not to, right? Judo.
  
  
 Josh Narins
 
 Director of Application Development
 SeniorBridge
 845 Third Ave
 7th Floor
 New York, NY 10022
 Tel: (212) 994-6194
 Fax: (212) 994-4260
 Mobile: (917) 488-6248
 jnar...@seniorbridge.com
 seniorbridge.com http://www.seniorbridge.com/
 
 
 
  
 
 
 SeniorBridge Statement of Confidentiality: The contents of this email message
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 From: rt-users-boun...@lists.bestpractical.com
 [mailto:rt-users-boun...@lists.bestpractical.com] On Behalf Of Kenneth Crocker
 Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2011 3:08 PM
 To: rt-users@lists.bestpractical.com
 Subject: Re: [rt-users] Help on discouraging migration to Remedy
  
 Guadagnino,
 
 Wouldn't it be better to provide a list of their requirements and show how, by
 its flexible design, RT meets those requirements better than Request?
 
 Kenn
 LBNL
 
 On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 3:49 AM, Guadagnino Cristiano
 guadagnino.cristi...@creval.it wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 unfortunately it seems my bosses are determined to migrate away from RT to
 Remedy.
 I am equally determined to show them they took the wrong decision.
 Let alone the obvious argument that RT is free, could you help me gather
 documentation on companies (best if BIG companies) migrating AWAY from Remedy?
 It does not matter if they are migrating to RT, though it would abviously be
 better.
  
 I did my homework and already sent some evidence, but there may be more
 publically redistributable documents that are not available on the web.
  
 Thank you in advance.
  
 Bye
 Cris
  
  
 
 
 -- 
 Gary L. Greene, Jr.
 IT Operations
 Minerva Networks, Inc.
 Cell:   (650) 704-6633
 Office: (408) 240-1239
 



Re: [rt-users] Help on discouraging migration to Remedy

2011-01-12 Thread Dennis
On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 3:49 AM, Guadagnino Cristiano
guadagnino.cristi...@creval.it wrote:
 Hi all,

Hi,

What are the reasons they want to move to Remedy, are there certain
requirements or integrations with other software that would be too
difficult to implement otherwise with RT?

Dennis