RE: [scifinoir2] National Treasure 2 Rules Box Office - :(
WOW! THAT was a mouthful! LOL @ the 4th time around! Maurice Jennings Have you or someone you know been threatened with foreclosure? KEEP your home and Stop Foreclosure in its Tracks! Get a Free, No Obligation Evaluation = http://www.legacyhomesavers.com -Original Message- From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2007 7:37 PM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] National Treasure 2 Rules Box Office - :( Confession Time, huh? I used to watch Automatic with foreign b-movie action star Oliver Grunner, about an android programmed to protect humans from violent attacks who discovers a company executive trying to rape a female employee and accidentally kills him, which leads to cover up in which the company sends mercenaries in to kill him and the employee. Have not seen it in a while, but remember liking it the forth time around. Reece Jennings wrote: I loved 'Day of the Triffids'...Talk about a double whammy! Blind people trying to get away from walking, human-eating plants! Maurice Jennings Have you or someone you know been threatened with foreclosure? KEEP your home and Stop Foreclosure in its Tracks! Get a Free, No Obligation Evaluation = http://www.legacyhomesavers.com -Original Message- From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2007 12:58 PM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] National Treasure 2 Rules Box Office - :( I Love Night of The Comet Daryle wrote: Oh, is this turning into THAT discussion? ³Night Of the Comet². AND I bought it on VHS. On 12/26/07 12:15 PM, Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tracey, to put you at ease, I'm going to reveal one of my deepest, darkest movie secrets. I love Howard the Duck. Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com wrote: Keith I know you are disappointed in me, but for mindless fluff sitting in the comfort of my home, I liked the first one. :( Martin wrote: But...but...I *wanna* throw away my money! Mindless stupididty is my milieu! [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:KeithBJohnson%40comcast.net wrote: I really hope none of you fine people contributed any ducats to making National Treasure 2 the number one movie over the Christmas weekend. I tried to watch the first movie a couple of years ago, on a Sunday night, as background noise while I cleaned up. I turned it off with 45 minutes to go. Silly concepts, preposterous occurrences, autopilot acting by Cage and Voight (just show me the money!!). Not fun or clever or engaging at all. Despite what some think of me, i'm not a movie snob, don't have a thing against low brow humour (saw Knocked Up recently and loved it) or mindless action flicks. Im the guy who will watch The Warriors every single time it airs (much to my wife's consternation!) And Face Off? Pure cinematic pleasure of adrenalin, over-the-top acting, and things that go boom!. Love that flick. But National Treasure sucked, and I hear the sequel is even dumber in plot. Mount Rushmore built just to hide a city of gold. A secret book passed down from one President to another that details, among other things, the truth of what's kept in Area 51? Brotherrr! Please tell me none of you watched it? National Treasure sleighs Christmas box office Tue Dec 25, 2:27 PM ET Nicolas Cage's adventure sequel National Treasure: Book of Secrets raced to $65 million during its first five days of release across North America, distributor Walt Disney Pictures said on Tuesday. The tally consists of actual sales for the four days since the film opened last Friday, and a Christmas day estimate. Final sales data will be issued on Wednesday. Through December 24, the film had also earned $27.5 million in 17 international markets, mostly in Asia. The critically maligned sequel to the 2004 smash National Treasure stars Cage as a treasure hunter who flies around the world trying to solve an ancient puzzle related to Lincoln's assassination. Will Smith's sci-fi thriller I Am Legend was No. 2 with five-day sales of $47.5 million, taking its 12-day haul to $150.8 million, said Warner Bros. Pictures. Because of the holiday, data for many films were incomplete. Twentieth Century Fox reported a
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She doesn't like Mony Python?? Some people just don't understand... [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: oh, speaking of certain low brow movies i do like-- Bad Santa. Don't forget Bad Santa. I laugh so hard everytime i see that crude movie, i almost bust a gut. My wife is horrified at how i can find humour in Billy Bob Thornton's portrayal of a crooked, soused Santa who curses at an innocent kid while taking advantage of him, but I just love that movie. Then she just says oh, you love 'Monty Python' too. I worry about you sometimes. I'd take Bad Santa over National Treasure any day! -- Original message -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Keith Johnson) I really hope none of you fine people contributed any ducats to making National Treasure 2 the number one movie over the Christmas weekend. I tried to watch the first movie a couple of years ago, on a Sunday night, as background noise while I cleaned up. I turned it off with 45 minutes to go. Silly concepts, preposterous occurrences, autopilot acting by Cage and Voight (just show me the money!!). Not fun or clever or engaging at all. Despite what some think of me, i'm not a movie snob, don't have a thing against low brow humour (saw Knocked Up recently and loved it) or mindless action flicks. Im the guy who will watch The Warriors every single time it airs (much to my wife's consternation!) And Face Off? Pure cinematic pleasure of adrenalin, over-the-top acting, and things that go boom!. Love that flick. But National Treasure sucked, and I hear the sequel is even dumber in plot. Mount Rushmore built just to hide a city of gold. A secret book passed down from one President to another that details, among other things, the truth of what's kept in Area 51? Brotherrr! Please tell me none of you watched it? National Treasure sleighs Christmas box office Tue Dec 25, 2:27 PM ET Nicolas Cage's adventure sequel National Treasure: Book of Secrets raced to $65 million during its first five days of release across North America, distributor Walt Disney Pictures said on Tuesday. The tally consists of actual sales for the four days since the film opened last Friday, and a Christmas day estimate. Final sales data will be issued on Wednesday. Through December 24, the film had also earned $27.5 million in 17 international markets, mostly in Asia. The critically maligned sequel to the 2004 smash National Treasure stars Cage as a treasure hunter who flies around the world trying to solve an ancient puzzle related to Lincoln's assassination. Will Smith's sci-fi thriller I Am Legend was No. 2 with five-day sales of $47.5 million, taking its 12-day haul to $150.8 million, said Warner Bros. Pictures. Because of the holiday, data for many films were incomplete. Twentieth Century Fox reported a four-day tally of $32.8 million for its surprise hit Alvin and the Chipmunks, saying it was impossible to estimate Christmas Day sales. After 11 days, the kids film has earned $88.7 million. The fact-based political comedy Charlie Wilson's War earned $14.75 million, and the Johnny Depp musical Sweeney Todd $12.75 million, both after five days. Their respective studios, Universal Pictures and DreamWorks Pictures, warned that the Christmas Day components were rough guesses. The box office jury is still out on Charlie Wilson, a high-profile vehicle starring Tom Hanks and Julia Roberts, which is playing in twice as many theaters as Sweeney Todd, which DreamWorks co-produced with Warner Bros. Further down the rankings, P.S. I Love You had earned $9.1 million in its first five days. After a low-key opening weekend, Warner Bros. said it hoped more women would turn out in force for the Hilary Swank tearjerker now that Christmas-related chores are behind them. The musical spoof Walk Hard: The Dewey Cox Story reported a four-day haul of $4.7 million. Distributor Columbia Pictures did not have a Christmas Day estimate for the box office disappointment. Midfield rankings will change when final data are issued Wednesday because they will include sales for three Christmas Day releases: the action sequel Alien vs. Predator: Requiem, the Denzel Washington drama The Great Debaters, and the family fantasy The Water Horse: Legend of the Deep. Walt Disney Pictures is a unit of Walt Disney Co. Warner Bros. is a unit of Time Warner Inc. Twentieth Century Fox is a unit of News Corp. Universal Pictures, a unit of General Electric Co's NBC Universal. DreamWorks Pictures is a unit of Viacom Inc. Columbia Pictures is a unit of Sony Corp. (Reporting by Dean Goodman; Editing by Stuart Grudgings) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Akin, but no matter what you think, I am concerned for your life, so Ill only say this once; if you talk too much or ask too many questions, you might say something that interests the Community, and you really, really dont want to get
[scifinoir2] Were the first stars too dark to twinkle?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Were the first stars too dark to twinkle? URL to an interesting article from MSNBC _http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22082450/_ (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22082450/) Huge dark fluffy stars. I love it! First few paragraphs The first stars to form in the universe may not have shone like those today, but instead may have been invisible dark stars powered by the annihilation of _dark matter_ (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22082450/#) , a new study finds. And, researchers say, they would have been gargantuan. Dark matter, invisible stuff which scientists think makes up the bulk of _the universe_ (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22082450/#) , has been considered to have role in the evolution of the _early universe_ (http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/050314_starved_galaxies.html) but not in the formation of the first stars. _Story continues below ↓_ (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22082450/#storyContinued) advertisement According to the conventional theory for how the first stars were born, hydrogen and helium atoms clumped and swirled together in proto-stellar clouds, and as they cooled, the gas clouds shrank and became denser. The cooling and shrinking continued until hydrogen and helium began to fuse, igniting the fusion engine that powers our sun and other stars. Dark matter’s effect For the new study, detailed in the January issue of the journal Physical Review Letters, astrophysicists calculated how dark matter would have affected the temperature and density of the gas that clumped together to form the first stars. The findings suggest that _dark matter particles_ (http://www.space.com/businesstechnology/070103_tw_radiomap.html) interacted so that they annihilated each other, producing subatomic particles called quarks and their antimatter counterparts, antiquarks. This annihilation produced heat that would have kept the proto-stellar cloud of hydrogen and helium from cooling and shrinking and thus preventing fusion reactions from igniting. The heating can counteract the cooling, and so the star stops contracting for a while, forming a dark star 80 million to 100 million years after the Big Bang, said study leader Paolo Gondolo of the _University of Utah_ (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22082450/#) . Large and fluffy These so-called dark stars, named for the song Dark Star by the Grateful Dead, would contain mostly normal matter, in the form of hydrogen and helium molecules, but would be vastly larger (about 400 to 200,000 times wider) and fluffier than the sun and other stars.
[scifinoir2] Interview with Grenadan writer - Tobias Buckell
Hello, Just wanted to post a link to my interview with speculative fiction writer, Tobias Buckell: http://www.myafricandiaspora.com/books.html Thanks, Veronica
Re: [scifinoir2] Call for: Worse Saves In SciFi History
Agreed. While I think you are a die hard movie goer, The big screen changes the whole movie experience. You will come to love home viewing almost as much as the theatre. Besides you can rent them on Netflix until you can by the collections. I do that with lots of series Astromancer wrote: Let me fix that...(big screen, big screen, big screen...) You can hav the big screen and buy the collections later...(big screen, big screen, big screen...) Everything will look so much better on that BIG SCREEN...this is only a suggestion... [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: you know, Tracey, just dicussing DS9 makes me nostalgic. I was up really late this morning, and Voyager was being shown on Spike TV at 1 am. I feel asleep, but when i awoke for a moment an hour or so later, i think i heard an ep of DS9 in the background. Fell asleep again, but remember feeling vaguely angry at why it'd be on at such an inaccesible hour. I got about two hundred bucks worth of Best Buy gift cards for Christmas. I keep bouncing back between saving them for a big flatscreen plasma TV, or getting the complete run of one of my favorite series: Avatar, Battlestar Galactica, Homicide (one of the greatest TV dramas ever), Babylon 5, original Trek, or DS9. I keep finding myself leaning towards DS9... -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Refresh my memory. I forgot how it ended. Didn't the shape changers start melting and Odo dump Kira, who, he had loved forever, to cure and stay with them? Daryle wrote: The End of the Dominion War. On 12/26/07 2:38 PM, Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: During our discussion about over the top with bad plot block busters, we started talking about over the worse saves in speculative fiction movies. So far two were raised. They are: 1. Data putting the freakin' Borg *to sleep* to save the day in Star Trek Next Generation 2. How Jeff Goldblum was able to with his Mac laptop and a few hours of virus coding couldn't topple the computer system of a technologically superior society of interstellar conquerors on the first try in Independence Day Got any others Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Akin, but no matter what you think, I am concerned for your life, so I'll only say this once; if you talk too much or ask too many questions, you might say something that interests the Community, and you really, really don't want to get them interested. - The Side Street Chonicles by C.W. Badie - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[scifinoir2] Mysterious cosmic powerhouses explored
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Wow! Subject: [Hard SF] Mysterious cosmic powerhouses explored URL to a link in Science Daily News _http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/12/071220102247.htm_ (http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/12/071220102247.htm) First few paragraphs ScienceDaily (Dec. 25, 2007) — By working in synergy with a ground-based telescope array, the joint Japanese Aerospace Exploration Agency (JAXA)/NASA Suzaku X-ray observatory is shedding new light on some of the most energetic objects in our galaxy, but objects that remain shrouded in mystery. These cosmic powerhouses pour out vast amounts of energy, and they accelerate particles to almost the speed of light. But very little is known about these sources because they were discovered only recently. Understanding these objects is one of the most intriguing problems in astrophysics, says Takayasu Anada of the Institute for Space and Astronautical Science in Kanagawa, Japan. Anada is lead author of a paper presented last week at a Suzaku science conference in San Diego, Calif. These mysterious objects have been discovered in just the last few years by an array of four European-built telescopes named the High Energy Stereoscopic System (H.E.S.S.), located in the African nation of Namibia. H.E.S.S. indirectly detects very-high-energy gamma rays from outer space. These gamma rays are the highest-energy form of light ever detected from beyond Earth, so H.E.S.S. and other similar arrays have opened up a new branch of astronomy. The gamma rays themselves are absorbed by gases high up in Earth’s atmosphere. But as the gamma rays interact with air molecules, they produce subatomic particles that radiate a blue-colored light known as Cherenkov radiation. H.E.S.S. detects this blue light, whose intensity and direction reveals the energy and position of the gamma-ray source. The H.E.S.S. observations were groundbreaking, but the array’s images aren’t sharp enough to reveal the exact location where particles are being accelerated or how the particles are being accelerated. To solve this problem, several teams aimed Suzaku in the direction of some of these H.E.S.S. sources. Any object capable of emitting high-energy gamma rays will also produce X-rays, and Suzaku is particularly sensitive to high-energy (hard) X-rays. When Anada and his colleagues pointed Suzaku at a source known as HESS J1837-069 (the numerals express the object’s sky coordinates), the X-ray spectrum closely resembled X-ray spectra of pulsar wind nebulae — gaseous clouds that are sculpted by winds blown off by collapsed stars known as pulsars. Pulsar wind nebulae emit hard X-rays, and their X-ray output remains relatively constant over long timescales. The origin of the gamma-ray emission from HESS J1837-069 remains unclear, but we suspect that this source is a pulsar wind nebula from the Suzaku observation, says Anada. NASA’s Chandra X-ray Observatory and the European Space Agency’s XMM-Newton X-ray Observatory have revealed that other H.E.S.S. sources are also pulsar wind nebulae. These combined gamma-ray and X-ray observations are revealing that pulsar wind nebulae are more common and more energetic than astronomers had expected. Another group, led by Hironori Matsumoto of the University of Kyoto in Japan, targeted Suzaku on HESS J1614-518. This source belongs to a class of objects known as dark particle accelerators because their ultrahigh energies suggest they are accelerating particles to near-light speed, turning them into cosmic rays. But what are these objects, and what kinds of particles are being accelerated?
[scifinoir2] toys toys toys was Re: National Treasure 2 Rules Box Office - :(
--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Daryle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tetsu-chan has much love for Thomas. I stumble over Thomas and Friends every night and every morning. Wooden (wifey's preference), die cast, plastic, no matter, he wants them . . . ALL. However, I pulled a JACK move and introduced him to the adventures of Superman and Batman on Jetix. He may well be too young but I'm starting him early. To that end, I bought him a set of JUSTICE LEAGUE figures (based on the CN animation). Thing is, the figures kind of suck. Too hard to stand up for a 3 year old. Anyone collecting these sets have any recommendations? What a great way to head of the mania...and a smarter investment! I have taken a cursory scan of eBay to see what the value of all the metal sets and trains he has (the Thomas recall affected a very specific model that we didn¹t have) -- and it¹s not that great a return. On 12/26/07 3:14 PM, James Landrith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fortunately, my son skipped out on Thomas. He did get into wooden trains though. We (me, wife and my father) bought him one of those expensive Brio sets for his 4th birthday. For various birthdays and Christmases following, he received add-on tunnels, new cars, etc. Charles spent many hours assembling, disassembling and experimenting with track configurations. At 10, he doesn't play with it much anymore, but being of solid wood and in excellent condition - he'll be able to pass it on (hundreds of pieces, cars, add-ons, etc.) to his children. I think this expensive Brio set was our way of heading off the Thomas mania before it started... -Original Message- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com ] Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2007 3:07 PM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com mailto:scifinoir2% 40yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] National Treasure 2 Rules Box Office - :( Thomas is still big, she is just not that into him and there was a major recall recently, so we embraced her inner Car to make up for not having the train. Besides, have you watched Thomas the Train? What are they teaching kids? how to be petty, tease friends and be cruel while respecting the corporate bosses !?!?! I'm left scratching my head at the end of some of those episodes. She has not seen Static yet, but she loves Superman and Batman, so I introduced her to Power Puffs last week and she was hooked. There was a Green Lantern Show? When? Fortunately, Lazytown and Barney were not obsessive, however, Dora is to some degree. Most of the shows, she needs to see alot of I like or can tolerate. However, once she is done with seeing them over and over and over, I need a break from them all. Daryle wrote: Be glad you missed the ³Thomas² phase. My son¹s the same age. ³Thomas² type kids are obsessive collectors, and my son is one. We missed Barney completely. We did ³Thomas², ³Cars², and ³Static Shock². Well, we¹re still doing ³Static Shock², actually. (Because dad is not having a ³Superman² phase without at least a Green Lantern or SOME brother in the mix) I¹m so mad they canceled that show I don¹t know what to do. I only have it on VHS. As for ³Lazy Town²...God bless you. That show is entirely too damn loud. We bought those Nick Jr DVDs (they run like 6 hours!) so that he isn¹t exposed to the commercials between the shows and Lazy Town is on it. As much as I wanna support the show because of Pixel...that show is just no go. ³Dora² also yells throughout her whole show, but at least I can tolerate the music. On 12/26/07 2:43 PM, Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com wrote: I know it is inevitable. I just survived Barney and Lazy Town. Don't you remember just a few short days ago, I told you we had to watch the Grinch five times a day and then listen to the soundtrack a few dozen times or how we have to watch Cars, draw Cars, color Cars, build cars, be Cars (by poor husband is often Mater) and play with Cars around the clock. but you can't blame me for doing whatever it took to avert the alvin and the chipmunks tragedy! [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:KeithBJohnson%40comcast.net mailto:KeithBJohnson%40comcast.net wrote: Give it up, Tracey. Every parent is curse by one phenom of the times that he/she finds execrable, but which the kids love with a non- stop mania. It could be that purple dinosaur singing, non-stop, or those strange Teletubbies with their chirping noises and curious drug-induced- seeming plots. Or it might even be a halfway decent show that, after the thousandth viewing, simply makes you want
Re: [scifinoir2] Call for: Worse Saves In SciFi History
We had one for a while, but all this cross continent moving has changed that. So , I have the same dreams. Hopefully, now that I am getting well and starting to work again, those dreams will become a reality Astromancer wrote: I haven't been to the movies in several years...I either rent DVDs or download them off the net...I dream nightly of owning a big screen TV... Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Agreed. While I think you are a die hard movie goer, The big screen changes the whole movie experience. You will come to love home viewing almost as much as the theatre. Besides you can rent them on Netflix until you can by the collections. I do that with lots of series Astromancer wrote: Let me fix that...(big screen, big screen, big screen...) You can hav the big screen and buy the collections later...(big screen, big screen, big screen...) Everything will look so much better on that BIG SCREEN...this is only a suggestion... [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: you know, Tracey, just dicussing DS9 makes me nostalgic. I was up really late this morning, and Voyager was being shown on Spike TV at 1 am. I feel asleep, but when i awoke for a moment an hour or so later, i think i heard an ep of DS9 in the background. Fell asleep again, but remember feeling vaguely angry at why it'd be on at such an inaccesible hour. I got about two hundred bucks worth of Best Buy gift cards for Christmas. I keep bouncing back between saving them for a big flatscreen plasma TV, or getting the complete run of one of my favorite series: Avatar, Battlestar Galactica, Homicide (one of the greatest TV dramas ever), Babylon 5, original Trek, or DS9. I keep finding myself leaning towards DS9... -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Refresh my memory. I forgot how it ended. Didn't the shape changers start melting and Odo dump Kira, who, he had loved forever, to cure and stay with them? Daryle wrote: The End of the Dominion War. On 12/26/07 2:38 PM, Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: During our discussion about over the top with bad plot block busters, we started talking about over the worse saves in speculative fiction movies. So far two were raised. They are: 1. Data putting the freakin' Borg *to sleep* to save the day in Star Trek Next Generation 2. How Jeff Goldblum was able to with his Mac laptop and a few hours of virus coding couldn't topple the computer system of a technologically superior society of interstellar conquerors on the first try in Independence Day Got any others Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Akin, but no matter what you think, I am concerned for your life, so I'll only say this once; if you talk too much or ask too many questions, you might say something that interests the Community, and you really, really don't want to get them interested. - The Side Street Chonicles by C.W. Badie - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Akin, but no matter what you think, I am concerned for your life, so I'll only say this once; if you talk too much or ask too many questions, you might say something that interests the Community, and you really, really don't want to get them interested. - The Side Street Chonicles by C.W. Badie - Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [scifinoir2] Call for: Worse Saves In SciFi History
I haven't been to the movies in several years...I either rent DVDs or download them off the net...I dream nightly of owning a big screen TV... Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Agreed. While I think you are a die hard movie goer, The big screen changes the whole movie experience. You will come to love home viewing almost as much as the theatre. Besides you can rent them on Netflix until you can by the collections. I do that with lots of series Astromancer wrote: Let me fix that...(big screen, big screen, big screen...) You can hav the big screen and buy the collections later...(big screen, big screen, big screen...) Everything will look so much better on that BIG SCREEN...this is only a suggestion... [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: you know, Tracey, just dicussing DS9 makes me nostalgic. I was up really late this morning, and Voyager was being shown on Spike TV at 1 am. I feel asleep, but when i awoke for a moment an hour or so later, i think i heard an ep of DS9 in the background. Fell asleep again, but remember feeling vaguely angry at why it'd be on at such an inaccesible hour. I got about two hundred bucks worth of Best Buy gift cards for Christmas. I keep bouncing back between saving them for a big flatscreen plasma TV, or getting the complete run of one of my favorite series: Avatar, Battlestar Galactica, Homicide (one of the greatest TV dramas ever), Babylon 5, original Trek, or DS9. I keep finding myself leaning towards DS9... -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Refresh my memory. I forgot how it ended. Didn't the shape changers start melting and Odo dump Kira, who, he had loved forever, to cure and stay with them? Daryle wrote: The End of the Dominion War. On 12/26/07 2:38 PM, Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: During our discussion about over the top with bad plot block busters, we started talking about over the worse saves in speculative fiction movies. So far two were raised. They are: 1. Data putting the freakin' Borg *to sleep* to save the day in Star Trek Next Generation 2. How Jeff Goldblum was able to with his Mac laptop and a few hours of virus coding couldn't topple the computer system of a technologically superior society of interstellar conquerors on the first try in Independence Day Got any others Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Akin, but no matter what you think, I am concerned for your life, so I'll only say this once; if you talk too much or ask too many questions, you might say something that interests the Community, and you really, really don't want to get them interested. - The Side Street Chonicles by C.W. Badie - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Akin, but no matter what you think, I am concerned for your life, so Ill only say this once; if you talk too much or ask too many questions, you might say something that interests the Community, and you really, really dont want to get them interested. - The Side Street Chonicles by C.W. Badie - Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [scifinoir2] OT: Studies Show Dyslexics Make Great Entrepreneurs
Forget it...makes too much sense... Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ...and teach THINKING rather than train for tests? That alone deserves a standing ovation. IMO, it's the Guv'mint that wants the sheeple thinking inside the box, because the mindless and docile are more easily duped/led. Daryle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know that Sir Richard Branson (founder of Virgin) is a great example of this. I've just been reading his autobiography this past week and he has seen things a lot clearer and simpler than many people who have struggled to master just ONE industry, and he's a guy who has been a leader in the record, retail, wine, comics, airline and mobile phone businesses. I think this opens up a larger discussion. What about the many many people who are in higher education for jobs and job training? Is it time to overhaul the education system and teach THINKING rather than train for tests? On 12/26/07 10:45 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dyslexia forces you to look at things in totality and not just as a single chess move. I play out the whole scenario in my mind and then work through it. All of my life, I've built organizations with a broad perspective in mind. -- John Chambers, CEO, Cisco Systems This is a fascinating article, one of the best concepts i've encountered all year. Apparently the percentage of successful business leaders and entrepreneurs that have dyslexia (estimated at 35 %) is higher than the percentage of Americans who have it (said to be around 15%). while i can't verify the ratio of these numbers yet, the concept is amazing. These people who have the most difficult time reading basic sentences or directions, who later in life deal with increasing difficulty at keeping things sorted and organized in their minds, succeed at a very high rate. As the article says, this can be attributed to many things, such as learning to study carefully and work harder to pull out important facts, knowing what things aren't important to focus on at a given moment, dealing with frustration and failure (the old try, try again mentality), and most importantly, learning to embrace others who might have skillsets to complement one's weaknesses. Charles Schwab, Sir Richard Br anson, Chambers--all the dyslexics who've succeeded in business say they learned long ago to listen to other peoples' opinions, to delegate tasks. One guy said, when you have to learn to accept help from someone in just learning how to read, you learn to listen to people in your company and embrace their ideas without your ego getting in the way. Something to be learned here in for those of us who are for the most part hale and healthy in mind and body... *** http://www.businessweek.com/bwdaily/dnflash/content/dec2007/db20071212_539295. htm Why Dyslexics Make Great Entrepreneurs The ability to grasp the big picture, persistence, and creativity are a few of the entrepreneurial traits of many dyslexics. Just ask Charles Schwab by Gabrielle Coppola When Alan Meckler, the CEO of IT and online imagery hub Jupitermedia (JUPM), was accepted to Columbia University in 1965, the dean's office told him he had some of the lowest college boards of any student ever admitted. I got a 405 or 410 in English, he recalls. In those days you got a 400 just for putting your name down! Yet I was on the dean's list every year I was there, and I won a prize for having the best essay in American history my senior year. It wasn't until years later, at age 58, that Meckler learned he was dyslexic. He struggles with walking and driving directions, and interpreting charts and graphs. He prefers to listen to someone explain a problem to him, rather than sit down and read 20 pages describing it. As a youth, Meckler discovered a unique strengthbaseballand cultivated it religiously to compensate for weakness in other areas. Asset or Handicap? All of these things, according to Dr. Sally Shaywitz, a professor of learning development at Yale University, are classic signs of dyslexia. Shaywitz has long argued that dyslexia should be evaluated as an asset, not just a handicap. She recently co-founded the Yale Center for Dyslexia Creativity, dedicated to studying the link between the two. I want people to wish they were dyslexic, she says. There are many positive attributes that can't be taught that people are generally not aware of. We always write about how we're losing human capitaldyslexics are not able to achieve their potential because they've had to go around the system. It's not clear whether dyslexics develop their special talents by learning to negotiate their disability or whether such skills are the genetic inheritance of being dyslexic. It's a question Shaywitz plans to explore, along with trying to change the way dyslexia is viewed in the educational system and the business world. One project at the center will be an
Re: [scifinoir2] Call for: Worse Saves In SciFi History
Sorry, folks...the ABSOLUTE worst save in Sci Fi history was in the spaghetti sci-fi flick 'Star Crash'...Christopher Plummer was the Emperor of the Universe...a bounty Hunter has found his kidnapped son and he arrives on the planet...The bouty hunter and son tell him Sire, we only have 2 minutes to leave the planet before it explodes! the audience in the theatre as well as I was murmering how the heck are they going to get out of this when suddenly the Emperor looks at them and says Do not worry, I am not the Emperor of the Univese for nothing. He then looks to the sky and says Spaceship! Halt the flow of time! There was dead silence for a good second before the laughter, groan and cat calls began. The movie was so bad, I fell in love with it...I've been looking for it ever since to add to my collection! Astromancer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've always wondered...Why didn't NOMAD blow up the moment he had discovered his error? oh yeah, it was in the script... [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How about, Kirk saving the day by outsmarting a super computer, causing it to self-destruct in self-loathing and unreconcilable programming loops? He did that with M5 (How will you atone for the sin of murder...This computer must die...), Nomad (Nomad, you've made three errors, you are flawed. Execute your prime directive. Boom!) and Landru (You are not protecting the Body! Landru! Help me! Boom!) -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] During our discussion about over the top with bad plot block busters, we started talking about over the worse saves in speculative fiction movies. So far two were raised. They are: 1. Data putting the freakin' Borg *to sleep* to save the day in Star Trek Next Generation 2. How Jeff Goldblum was able to with his Mac laptop and a few hours of virus coding couldn't topple the computer system of a technologically superior society of interstellar conquerors on the first try in Independence Day Got any others Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Akin, but no matter what you think, I am concerned for your life, so Ill only say this once; if you talk too much or ask too many questions, you might say something that interests the Community, and you really, really dont want to get them interested. - The Side Street Chonicles by C.W. Badie - Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Akin, but no matter what you think, I am concerned for your life, so Ill only say this once; if you talk too much or ask too many questions, you might say something that interests the Community, and you really, really dont want to get them interested. - The Side Street Chonicles by C.W. Badie - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [scifinoir2] toys toys toys was Re: National Treasure 2 Rules Box Office - :(
I feel your pain. Mine comes in the form of legos and Cars, Cars, Cars. Tetsu chan is a beautiful name. What does it mean? My daughter has had Batman, Spidey, Superman, Wolvervine etc since two. She loves them and has them play with her fairies, pooh and Wizard of oz collections. Hers do not fall, but many of them are twenty plus years old. My Mom started collecting them from thrift stores ages ago. You might want to try finding some small flat metal pieces and crazy glue them to bottom. I've seen little metal circles that seem harmless. Another suggestion is to buy some toy blocks that are somewhat flat and crazy glue the figures to them. I hope this helps tetsuwanatom1 wrote: --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Daryle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tetsu-chan has much love for Thomas. I stumble over Thomas and Friends every night and every morning. Wooden (wifey's preference), die cast, plastic, no matter, he wants them . . . ALL. However, I pulled a JACK move and introduced him to the adventures of Superman and Batman on Jetix. He may well be too young but I'm starting him early. To that end, I bought him a set of JUSTICE LEAGUE figures (based on the CN animation). Thing is, the figures kind of suck. Too hard to stand up for a 3 year old. Anyone collecting these sets have any recommendations? What a great way to head of the mania...and a smarter investment! I have taken a cursory scan of eBay to see what the value of all the metal sets and trains he has (the Thomas recall affected a very specific model that we didn¹t have) -- and it¹s not that great a return. On 12/26/07 3:14 PM, James Landrith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fortunately, my son skipped out on Thomas. He did get into wooden trains though. We (me, wife and my father) bought him one of those expensive Brio sets for his 4th birthday. For various birthdays and Christmases following, he received add-on tunnels, new cars, etc. Charles spent many hours assembling, disassembling and experimenting with track configurations. At 10, he doesn't play with it much anymore, but being of solid wood and in excellent condition - he'll be able to pass it on (hundreds of pieces, cars, add-ons, etc.) to his children. I think this expensive Brio set was our way of heading off the Thomas mania before it started... -Original Message- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com ] Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2007 3:07 PM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com mailto:scifinoir2% 40yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] National Treasure 2 Rules Box Office - :( Thomas is still big, she is just not that into him and there was a major recall recently, so we embraced her inner Car to make up for not having the train. Besides, have you watched Thomas the Train? What are they teaching kids? how to be petty, tease friends and be cruel while respecting the corporate bosses !?!?! I'm left scratching my head at the end of some of those episodes. She has not seen Static yet, but she loves Superman and Batman, so I introduced her to Power Puffs last week and she was hooked. There was a Green Lantern Show? When? Fortunately, Lazytown and Barney were not obsessive, however, Dora is to some degree. Most of the shows, she needs to see alot of I like or can tolerate. However, once she is done with seeing them over and over and over, I need a break from them all. Daryle wrote: Be glad you missed the ³Thomas² phase. My son¹s the same age. ³Thomas² type kids are obsessive collectors, and my son is one. We missed Barney completely. We did ³Thomas², ³Cars², and ³Static Shock². Well, we¹re still doing ³Static Shock², actually. (Because dad is not having a ³Superman² phase without at least a Green Lantern or SOME brother in the mix) I¹m so mad they canceled that show I don¹t know what to do. I only have it on VHS. As for ³Lazy Town²...God bless you. That show is entirely too damn loud. We bought those Nick Jr DVDs (they run like 6 hours!) so that he isn¹t exposed to the commercials between the shows and Lazy Town is on it. As much as I wanna support the show because of Pixel...that show is just no go. ³Dora² also yells throughout her whole show, but at least I can tolerate the music. On 12/26/07 2:43 PM, Tracey de Morsella
[scifinoir2] Saw 28 Weeks on DVD- Plot Holes, Plot Holes ....
I've never been a big zombie movie fan, but I loved 28 days. I think it will one day be considered a classic. So I was really looking forward to the sequel. Well we finally checked it out last night. It had lots of great elements that reminded me of how Aliens complimented Alien, but they really let me down with the numerous plot holes. and now there is going to be a third installment in Russia. Any thoughts? Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [scifinoir2] Call for: Worse Saves In SciFi History
That is bad! You paid to see it in the theater? I do not remember it. When did it come out? Astromancer wrote: Sorry, folks...the ABSOLUTE worst save in Sci Fi history was in the spaghetti sci-fi flick 'Star Crash'...Christopher Plummer was the Emperor of the Universe...a bounty Hunter has found his kidnapped son and he arrives on the planet...The bouty hunter and son tell him Sire, we only have 2 minutes to leave the planet before it explodes! the audience in the theatre as well as I was murmering how the heck are they going to get out of this when suddenly the Emperor looks at them and says Do not worry, I am not the Emperor of the Univese for nothing. He then looks to the sky and says Spaceship! Halt the flow of time! There was dead silence for a good second before the laughter, groan and cat calls began. The movie was so bad, I fell in love with it...I've been looking for it ever since to add to my collection! Astromancer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've always wondered...Why didn't NOMAD blow up the moment he had discovered his error? oh yeah, it was in the script... [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How about, Kirk saving the day by outsmarting a super computer, causing it to self-destruct in self-loathing and unreconcilable programming loops? He did that with M5 (How will you atone for the sin of murder...This computer must die...), Nomad (Nomad, you've made three errors, you are flawed. Execute your prime directive. Boom!) and Landru (You are not protecting the Body! Landru! Help me! Boom!) -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] During our discussion about over the top with bad plot block busters, we started talking about over the worse saves in speculative fiction movies. So far two were raised. They are: 1. Data putting the freakin' Borg *to sleep* to save the day in Star Trek Next Generation 2. How Jeff Goldblum was able to with his Mac laptop and a few hours of virus coding couldn't topple the computer system of a technologically superior society of interstellar conquerors on the first try in Independence Day Got any others Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Akin, but no matter what you think, I am concerned for your life, so I'll only say this once; if you talk too much or ask too many questions, you might say something that interests the Community, and you really, really don't want to get them interested. - The Side Street Chonicles by C.W. Badie - Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Akin, but no matter what you think, I am concerned for your life, so I'll only say this once; if you talk too much or ask too many questions, you might say something that interests the Community, and you really, really don't want to get them interested. - The Side Street Chonicles by C.W. Badie - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [scifinoir2] Call for: Worse Saves In SciFi History
What happened to your shoulder? Astromancer wrote: I will too, provided I don't need surgery on my shoulder... Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We had one for a while, but all this cross continent moving has changed that. So , I have the same dreams. Hopefully, now that I am getting well and starting to work again, those dreams will become a reality Astromancer wrote: I haven't been to the movies in several years...I either rent DVDs or download them off the net...I dream nightly of owning a big screen TV... Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Agreed. While I think you are a die hard movie goer, The big screen changes the whole movie experience. You will come to love home viewing almost as much as the theatre. Besides you can rent them on Netflix until you can by the collections. I do that with lots of series Astromancer wrote: Let me fix that...(big screen, big screen, big screen...) You can hav the big screen and buy the collections later...(big screen, big screen, big screen...) Everything will look so much better on that BIG SCREEN...this is only a suggestion... [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: you know, Tracey, just dicussing DS9 makes me nostalgic. I was up really late this morning, and Voyager was being shown on Spike TV at 1 am. I feel asleep, but when i awoke for a moment an hour or so later, i think i heard an ep of DS9 in the background. Fell asleep again, but remember feeling vaguely angry at why it'd be on at such an inaccesible hour. I got about two hundred bucks worth of Best Buy gift cards for Christmas. I keep bouncing back between saving them for a big flatscreen plasma TV, or getting the complete run of one of my favorite series: Avatar, Battlestar Galactica, Homicide (one of the greatest TV dramas ever), Babylon 5, original Trek, or DS9. I keep finding myself leaning towards DS9... -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Refresh my memory. I forgot how it ended. Didn't the shape changers start melting and Odo dump Kira, who, he had loved forever, to cure and stay with them? Daryle wrote: The End of the Dominion War. On 12/26/07 2:38 PM, Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: During our discussion about over the top with bad plot block busters, we started talking about over the worse saves in speculative fiction movies. So far two were raised. They are: 1. Data putting the freakin' Borg *to sleep* to save the day in Star Trek Next Generation 2. How Jeff Goldblum was able to with his Mac laptop and a few hours of virus coding couldn't topple the computer system of a technologically superior society of interstellar conquerors on the first try in Independence Day Got any others Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Akin, but no matter what you think, I am concerned for your life, so I'll only say this once; if you talk too much or ask too many questions, you might say something that interests the Community, and you really, really don't want to get them interested. - The Side Street Chonicles by C.W. Badie - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Akin, but no matter what you think, I am concerned for your life, so I'll only say this once; if you talk too much or ask too many questions, you might say something that interests the Community, and you really, really don't want to get them interested. - The Side Street Chonicles by C.W. Badie - Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Akin, but no matter what you think, I am concerned for your life, so I'll only say this once; if you talk too much or ask too many questions, you might say something that interests the Community, and you really, really don't want to get them interested. - The Side Street Chonicles by C.W. Badie - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [scifinoir2] Smith Angered over Hitler Remark
I gather that it didn't make it to broadcast? Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Keith, as I was standing in the parking lot of my complex, watching fire spatter across my roof, knowing that everything I owned (including some comic books, two titles of which would make you weep), a reporter (still working for Channel 2, so I'll be kind and not mention her name) sticks a mike in my face and asks me the immortal question, How do you feel right now, sir? My exact reply- I feel like I want to rip out your f*cking lungs and feed them to you. And I'm still proud of myself for saying it. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i hear you, i feel for celebs and the fishbowls in which they live. Then there are the ones who *seek* the press, yet bemoan their treatment. okay, so what did you say (or do) after this fire?! -- Original message -- From: Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] I know that, in H'Wood, microphones are stuck in celebs' faces with annoying regularity, leaving them with no option but to say something. As we all know, too often, this evokes off-the-cuff responses that can be translated in a myriad of ways. Mind you, I'm not saying that Smith actually said anything to this effect, or defending the fact that he said it. Myself, I've only had one mike stuck in my face in my life, that at one of the worst possible moments of my life (as I watched my apartment burning). What I said was easily translatable and, had there not been two large members of DeKalb County's Finest on hand at the moment, would've resulted in a long term of incarceration for yours truly. IMO, the best thing to do in that sitch, not readily available for celebs like Smith, is to push the mike away and walk on. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Statements like this almost always get you in trouble, no matter what you intend. Whenever you say that an evil person didn't set out to do evil, it's bound to cause issues. I'm not sure what the exact quote from Smith is, as he obviously seems to think he was misquoted... *** http://www.examiner.com/a-1122731~Will_Smith_Angered_by_Misinterpretation.html LOS ANGELES (Map, News) - Will Smith is angry over celebrity gossip Web site articles that he said misinterpreted a recent remark he made in a Scottish newspaper about Adolf Hitler. In a story published Saturday in the Daily Record, Smith was quoted saying: Even Hitler didn't wake up going, 'let me do the most evil thing I can do today.' I think he woke up in the morning and using a twisted, backwards logic, he set out to do what he thought was 'good.' The quote was preceded by the writer's observation: Remarkably, Will believes everyone is basically good. Over the weekend, dozens of celebrity gossip Web sites posted articles about the comment, many saying that Smith believed that Hitler was a good person. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Akin, but no matter what you think, I am concerned for your life, so Ill only say this once; if you talk too much or ask too many questions, you might say something that interests the Community, and you really, really dont want to get them interested. - The Side Street Chonicles by C.W. Badie - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[scifinoir2] McDuffie's BBS?
Anyone here participate? Some interesting discussion going down, like how much Torchwood sucks (truly does) or the anti John Stewart, pro Hal Jordan battle among fandom being about race.
Re: [scifinoir2] Call for: Worse Saves In SciFi History
I will too, provided I don't need surgery on my shoulder... Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We had one for a while, but all this cross continent moving has changed that. So , I have the same dreams. Hopefully, now that I am getting well and starting to work again, those dreams will become a reality Astromancer wrote: I haven't been to the movies in several years...I either rent DVDs or download them off the net...I dream nightly of owning a big screen TV... Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Agreed. While I think you are a die hard movie goer, The big screen changes the whole movie experience. You will come to love home viewing almost as much as the theatre. Besides you can rent them on Netflix until you can by the collections. I do that with lots of series Astromancer wrote: Let me fix that...(big screen, big screen, big screen...) You can hav the big screen and buy the collections later...(big screen, big screen, big screen...) Everything will look so much better on that BIG SCREEN...this is only a suggestion... [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: you know, Tracey, just dicussing DS9 makes me nostalgic. I was up really late this morning, and Voyager was being shown on Spike TV at 1 am. I feel asleep, but when i awoke for a moment an hour or so later, i think i heard an ep of DS9 in the background. Fell asleep again, but remember feeling vaguely angry at why it'd be on at such an inaccesible hour. I got about two hundred bucks worth of Best Buy gift cards for Christmas. I keep bouncing back between saving them for a big flatscreen plasma TV, or getting the complete run of one of my favorite series: Avatar, Battlestar Galactica, Homicide (one of the greatest TV dramas ever), Babylon 5, original Trek, or DS9. I keep finding myself leaning towards DS9... -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Refresh my memory. I forgot how it ended. Didn't the shape changers start melting and Odo dump Kira, who, he had loved forever, to cure and stay with them? Daryle wrote: The End of the Dominion War. On 12/26/07 2:38 PM, Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: During our discussion about over the top with bad plot block busters, we started talking about over the worse saves in speculative fiction movies. So far two were raised. They are: 1. Data putting the freakin' Borg *to sleep* to save the day in Star Trek Next Generation 2. How Jeff Goldblum was able to with his Mac laptop and a few hours of virus coding couldn't topple the computer system of a technologically superior society of interstellar conquerors on the first try in Independence Day Got any others Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Akin, but no matter what you think, I am concerned for your life, so I'll only say this once; if you talk too much or ask too many questions, you might say something that interests the Community, and you really, really don't want to get them interested. - The Side Street Chonicles by C.W. Badie - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Akin, but no matter what you think, I am concerned for your life, so I'll only say this once; if you talk too much or ask too many questions, you might say something that interests the Community, and you really, really don't want to get them interested. - The Side Street Chonicles by C.W. Badie - Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Akin, but no matter what you think, I am concerned for your life, so Ill only say this once; if you talk too much or ask too many questions, you might say something that interests the Community, and you really, really dont want to get them interested. - The Side Street Chonicles by C.W. Badie - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [scifinoir2] Call for: Worse Saves In SciFi History
(remembers, falls out of chair laughing) Astromancer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Either the late seventies or the early eighties...You would remember it if you saw it, especially Plummer's Jack Armstrong long, wavy blonde hair! It was a riot! Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That is bad! You paid to see it in the theater? I do not remember it. When did it come out? Astromancer wrote: Sorry, folks...the ABSOLUTE worst save in Sci Fi history was in the spaghetti sci-fi flick 'Star Crash'...Christopher Plummer was the Emperor of the Universe...a bounty Hunter has found his kidnapped son and he arrives on the planet...The bouty hunter and son tell him Sire, we only have 2 minutes to leave the planet before it explodes! the audience in the theatre as well as I was murmering how the heck are they going to get out of this when suddenly the Emperor looks at them and says Do not worry, I am not the Emperor of the Univese for nothing. He then looks to the sky and says Spaceship! Halt the flow of time! There was dead silence for a good second before the laughter, groan and cat calls began. The movie was so bad, I fell in love with it...I've been looking for it ever since to add to my collection! Astromancer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've always wondered...Why didn't NOMAD blow up the moment he had discovered his error? oh yeah, it was in the script... [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How about, Kirk saving the day by outsmarting a super computer, causing it to self-destruct in self-loathing and unreconcilable programming loops? He did that with M5 (How will you atone for the sin of murder...This computer must die...), Nomad (Nomad, you've made three errors, you are flawed. Execute your prime directive. Boom!) and Landru (You are not protecting the Body! Landru! Help me! Boom!) -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] During our discussion about over the top with bad plot block busters, we started talking about over the worse saves in speculative fiction movies. So far two were raised. They are: 1. Data putting the freakin' Borg *to sleep* to save the day in Star Trek Next Generation 2. How Jeff Goldblum was able to with his Mac laptop and a few hours of virus coding couldn't topple the computer system of a technologically superior society of interstellar conquerors on the first try in Independence Day Got any others Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Akin, but no matter what you think, I am concerned for your life, so I'll only say this once; if you talk too much or ask too many questions, you might say something that interests the Community, and you really, really don't want to get them interested. - The Side Street Chonicles by C.W. Badie - Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Akin, but no matter what you think, I am concerned for your life, so I'll only say this once; if you talk too much or ask too many questions, you might say something that interests the Community, and you really, really don't want to get them interested. - The Side Street Chonicles by C.W. Badie - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Akin, but no matter what you think, I am concerned for your life, so Ill only say this once; if you talk too much or ask too many questions, you might say something that interests the Community, and you really, really dont want to get them interested. - The Side Street Chonicles by C.W. Badie - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country - Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [scifinoir2] McDuffie's BBS?
I'm registered, but haven't been there in months. Don't know if I'll have the time in the near-future. tetsuwanatom1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone here participate? Some interesting discussion going down, like how much Torchwood sucks (truly does) or the anti John Stewart, pro Hal Jordan battle among fandom being about race. There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [scifinoir2] Smith Angered over Hitler Remark
No, afraid not. But she's still scared of me. Saw her about four years ago, when I was out and about. She caught one glance at me and ran back into the remote truck. Astromancer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I gather that it didn't make it to broadcast? Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Keith, as I was standing in the parking lot of my complex, watching fire spatter across my roof, knowing that everything I owned (including some comic books, two titles of which would make you weep), a reporter (still working for Channel 2, so I'll be kind and not mention her name) sticks a mike in my face and asks me the immortal question, How do you feel right now, sir? My exact reply- I feel like I want to rip out your f*cking lungs and feed them to you. And I'm still proud of myself for saying it. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i hear you, i feel for celebs and the fishbowls in which they live. Then there are the ones who *seek* the press, yet bemoan their treatment. okay, so what did you say (or do) after this fire?! -- Original message -- From: Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] I know that, in H'Wood, microphones are stuck in celebs' faces with annoying regularity, leaving them with no option but to say something. As we all know, too often, this evokes off-the-cuff responses that can be translated in a myriad of ways. Mind you, I'm not saying that Smith actually said anything to this effect, or defending the fact that he said it. Myself, I've only had one mike stuck in my face in my life, that at one of the worst possible moments of my life (as I watched my apartment burning). What I said was easily translatable and, had there not been two large members of DeKalb County's Finest on hand at the moment, would've resulted in a long term of incarceration for yours truly. IMO, the best thing to do in that sitch, not readily available for celebs like Smith, is to push the mike away and walk on. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Statements like this almost always get you in trouble, no matter what you intend. Whenever you say that an evil person didn't set out to do evil, it's bound to cause issues. I'm not sure what the exact quote from Smith is, as he obviously seems to think he was misquoted... *** http://www.examiner.com/a-1122731~Will_Smith_Angered_by_Misinterpretation.html LOS ANGELES (Map, News) - Will Smith is angry over celebrity gossip Web site articles that he said misinterpreted a recent remark he made in a Scottish newspaper about Adolf Hitler. In a story published Saturday in the Daily Record, Smith was quoted saying: Even Hitler didn't wake up going, 'let me do the most evil thing I can do today.' I think he woke up in the morning and using a twisted, backwards logic, he set out to do what he thought was 'good.' The quote was preceded by the writer's observation: Remarkably, Will believes everyone is basically good. Over the weekend, dozens of celebrity gossip Web sites posted articles about the comment, many saying that Smith believed that Hitler was a good person. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Akin, but no matter what you think, I am concerned for your life, so Ill only say this once; if you talk too much or ask too many questions, you might say something that interests the Community, and you really, really dont want to get them interested. - The Side Street Chonicles by C.W. Badie - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [scifinoir2] Call for: Worse Saves In SciFi History
I fell on it, probably tore my rotator cuff...have to have if done before construction season...So you're going back into modeling? Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What happened to your shoulder? Astromancer wrote: I will too, provided I don't need surgery on my shoulder... Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We had one for a while, but all this cross continent moving has changed that. So , I have the same dreams. Hopefully, now that I am getting well and starting to work again, those dreams will become a reality Astromancer wrote: I haven't been to the movies in several years...I either rent DVDs or download them off the net...I dream nightly of owning a big screen TV... Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Agreed. While I think you are a die hard movie goer, The big screen changes the whole movie experience. You will come to love home viewing almost as much as the theatre. Besides you can rent them on Netflix until you can by the collections. I do that with lots of series Astromancer wrote: Let me fix that...(big screen, big screen, big screen...) You can hav the big screen and buy the collections later...(big screen, big screen, big screen...) Everything will look so much better on that BIG SCREEN...this is only a suggestion... [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: you know, Tracey, just dicussing DS9 makes me nostalgic. I was up really late this morning, and Voyager was being shown on Spike TV at 1 am. I feel asleep, but when i awoke for a moment an hour or so later, i think i heard an ep of DS9 in the background. Fell asleep again, but remember feeling vaguely angry at why it'd be on at such an inaccesible hour. I got about two hundred bucks worth of Best Buy gift cards for Christmas. I keep bouncing back between saving them for a big flatscreen plasma TV, or getting the complete run of one of my favorite series: Avatar, Battlestar Galactica, Homicide (one of the greatest TV dramas ever), Babylon 5, original Trek, or DS9. I keep finding myself leaning towards DS9... -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Refresh my memory. I forgot how it ended. Didn't the shape changers start melting and Odo dump Kira, who, he had loved forever, to cure and stay with them? Daryle wrote: The End of the Dominion War. On 12/26/07 2:38 PM, Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: During our discussion about over the top with bad plot block busters, we started talking about over the worse saves in speculative fiction movies. So far two were raised. They are: 1. Data putting the freakin' Borg *to sleep* to save the day in Star Trek Next Generation 2. How Jeff Goldblum was able to with his Mac laptop and a few hours of virus coding couldn't topple the computer system of a technologically superior society of interstellar conquerors on the first try in Independence Day Got any others Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Akin, but no matter what you think, I am concerned for your life, so I'll only say this once; if you talk too much or ask too many questions, you might say something that interests the Community, and you really, really don't want to get them interested. - The Side Street Chonicles by C.W. Badie - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Akin, but no matter what you think, I am concerned for your life, so I'll only say this once; if you talk too much or ask too many questions, you might say something that interests the Community, and you really, really don't want to get them interested. - The Side Street Chonicles by C.W. Badie - Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Akin, but no matter what you think, I am concerned for your life, so I'll only say this once; if you talk too much or ask too many questions, you might say something that interests the Community, and you really, really don't want to get them interested. - The Side Street Chonicles by C.W. Badie - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [scifinoir2] Night Watch/ Day Watch- Seen them?
I own Night Watch, both book and DVD. The book, I haven't had the chance to really dig into. The DVD was a little wobbly in places, but a good story overall. I'll have to keep my eyes open for Day Watch. Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Looking for some flix to rent on Netflix over the weekend. I just saw a preview for Day Watch, that was interesting. Has anyone hear of it or its prequel Night Watch. Anyone read th trilogy. It got some good reviews. I never heard of them prior to seeing the preview. I think it came out while I was in Mexico. NY Times describes it as Star Wars Meets the Vampires in Moscow. See the plot summaries below. Nightwatch - This first installment of the trilogy based on the best-selling science fiction novels by Russian writer Sergei Lukyanenko plays upon the tension between light and dark, pitting the superhuman Night Watch patrollers (known as the Others) against the shadowed forces of the night. But the biggest fear of all stems from the lines of an ancient prophecy, which warns of a renegade Other whose betrayal could bring chaos to the land. Daywatch - Anton (Konstantin Khabensky) finds himself in the middle of a mythic conflict between the forces of Light and Dark in this sequel to Night Watch, the surprise 2004 hit from Russia. To protect his son, who has come under the control of the dark side, Anton must seek an ancient artifact. But the powerful relic threatens to upset the uneasy peace between the two sides and puts Moscow at risk for a devastating cataclysm in this supernatural thriller. Yahoo! Groups Links There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [scifinoir2] Call for: Worse Saves In SciFi History
I'm often alone in my weirdness, and I don't think this will be an exception. I've never liked big TVs. I had a 30 once, and hated the thing. I kept in in my bedroom initially, and moved it into my storage room a month later. Since, I've owned nothing bigger than a 19 screen. Right now, I have a 13 Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We had one for a while, but all this cross continent moving has changed that. So , I have the same dreams. Hopefully, now that I am getting well and starting to work again, those dreams will become a reality Astromancer wrote: I haven't been to the movies in several years...I either rent DVDs or download them off the net...I dream nightly of owning a big screen TV... Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Agreed. While I think you are a die hard movie goer, The big screen changes the whole movie experience. You will come to love home viewing almost as much as the theatre. Besides you can rent them on Netflix until you can by the collections. I do that with lots of series Astromancer wrote: Let me fix that...(big screen, big screen, big screen...) You can hav the big screen and buy the collections later...(big screen, big screen, big screen...) Everything will look so much better on that BIG SCREEN...this is only a suggestion... [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: you know, Tracey, just dicussing DS9 makes me nostalgic. I was up really late this morning, and Voyager was being shown on Spike TV at 1 am. I feel asleep, but when i awoke for a moment an hour or so later, i think i heard an ep of DS9 in the background. Fell asleep again, but remember feeling vaguely angry at why it'd be on at such an inaccesible hour. I got about two hundred bucks worth of Best Buy gift cards for Christmas. I keep bouncing back between saving them for a big flatscreen plasma TV, or getting the complete run of one of my favorite series: Avatar, Battlestar Galactica, Homicide (one of the greatest TV dramas ever), Babylon 5, original Trek, or DS9. I keep finding myself leaning towards DS9... -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Refresh my memory. I forgot how it ended. Didn't the shape changers start melting and Odo dump Kira, who, he had loved forever, to cure and stay with them? Daryle wrote: The End of the Dominion War. On 12/26/07 2:38 PM, Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: During our discussion about over the top with bad plot block busters, we started talking about over the worse saves in speculative fiction movies. So far two were raised. They are: 1. Data putting the freakin' Borg *to sleep* to save the day in Star Trek Next Generation 2. How Jeff Goldblum was able to with his Mac laptop and a few hours of virus coding couldn't topple the computer system of a technologically superior society of interstellar conquerors on the first try in Independence Day Got any others Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Akin, but no matter what you think, I am concerned for your life, so I'll only say this once; if you talk too much or ask too many questions, you might say something that interests the Community, and you really, really don't want to get them interested. - The Side Street Chonicles by C.W. Badie - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Akin, but no matter what you think, I am concerned for your life, so I'll only say this once; if you talk too much or ask too many questions, you might say something that interests the Community, and you really, really don't want to get them interested. - The Side Street Chonicles by C.W. Badie - Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. [Non-text portions of this message
Re: [scifinoir2] Saw 28 Weeks on DVD- Plot Holes, Plot Holes ....
My thoughts? They should've left it at 28 Days After. Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've never been a big zombie movie fan, but I loved 28 days. I think it will one day be considered a classic. So I was really looking forward to the sequel. Well we finally checked it out last night. It had lots of great elements that reminded me of how Aliens complimented Alien, but they really let me down with the numerous plot holes. and now there is going to be a third installment in Russia. Any thoughts? Yahoo! Groups Links There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [scifinoir2] Call for: Worse Saves In SciFi History
how is this possible??? I've never even *heard* of this film, let alone seen it! That *never* happens. Sounds like a classically bad flick. Gotta find it! -- Original message -- From: Astromancer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sorry, folks...the ABSOLUTE worst save in Sci Fi history was in the spaghetti sci-fi flick 'Star Crash'...Christopher Plummer was the Emperor of the Universe...a bounty Hunter has found his kidnapped son and he arrives on the planet...The bouty hunter and son tell him Sire, we only have 2 minutes to leave the planet before it explodes! the audience in the theatre as well as I was murmering how the heck are they going to get out of this when suddenly the Emperor looks at them and says Do not worry, I am not the Emperor of the Univese for nothing. He then looks to the sky and says Spaceship! Halt the flow of time! There was dead silence for a good second before the laughter, groan and cat calls began. The movie was so bad, I fell in love with it...I've been looking for it ever since to add to my collection! Astromancer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've always wondered...Why didn't NOMAD blow up the moment he had discovered his error? oh yeah, it was in the script... [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How about, Kirk saving the day by outsmarting a super computer, causing it to self-destruct in self-loathing and unreconcilable programming loops? He did that with M5 (How will you atone for the sin of murder...This computer must die...), Nomad (Nomad, you've made three errors, you are flawed. Execute your prime directive. Boom!) and Landru (You are not protecting the Body! Landru! Help me! Boom!) -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] During our discussion about over the top with bad plot block busters, we started talking about over the worse saves in speculative fiction movies. So far two were raised. They are: 1. Data putting the freakin' Borg *to sleep* to save the day in Star Trek Next Generation 2. How Jeff Goldblum was able to with his Mac laptop and a few hours of virus coding couldn't topple the computer system of a technologically superior society of interstellar conquerors on the first try in Independence Day Got any others Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Akin, but no matter what you think, I am concerned for your life, so Ill only say this once; if you talk too much or ask too many questions, you might say something that interests the Community, and you really, really dont want to get them interested. - The Side Street Chonicles by C.W. Badie - Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Akin, but no matter what you think, I am concerned for your life, so Ill only say this once; if you talk too much or ask too many questions, you might say something that interests the Community, and you really, really dont want to get them interested. - The Side Street Chonicles by C.W. Badie - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [scifinoir2] Call for: Worse Saves In SciFi History
i doubt it, unless i can get about fifty people in my house everytime i see a movie! :) -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Agreed. While I think you are a die hard movie goer, The big screen changes the whole movie experience. You will come to love home viewing almost as much as the theatre. Besides you can rent them on Netflix until you can by the collections. I do that with lots of series Astromancer wrote: Let me fix that...(big screen, big screen, big screen...) You can hav the big screen and buy the collections later...(big screen, big screen, big screen...) Everything will look so much better on that BIG SCREEN...this is only a suggestion... [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: you know, Tracey, just dicussing DS9 makes me nostalgic. I was up really late this morning, and Voyager was being shown on Spike TV at 1 am. I feel asleep, but when i awoke for a moment an hour or so later, i think i heard an ep of DS9 in the background. Fell asleep again, but remember feeling vaguely angry at why it'd be on at such an inaccesible hour. I got about two hundred bucks worth of Best Buy gift cards for Christmas. I keep bouncing back between saving them for a big flatscreen plasma TV, or getting the complete run of one of my favorite series: Avatar, Battlestar Galactica, Homicide (one of the greatest TV dramas ever), Babylon 5, original Trek, or DS9. I keep finding myself leaning towards DS9... -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Refresh my memory. I forgot how it ended. Didn't the shape changers start melting and Odo dump Kira, who, he had loved forever, to cure and stay with them? Daryle wrote: The End of the Dominion War. On 12/26/07 2:38 PM, Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: During our discussion about over the top with bad plot block busters, we started talking about over the worse saves in speculative fiction movies. So far two were raised. They are: 1. Data putting the freakin' Borg *to sleep* to save the day in Star Trek Next Generation 2. How Jeff Goldblum was able to with his Mac laptop and a few hours of virus coding couldn't topple the computer system of a technologically superior society of interstellar conquerors on the first try in Independence Day Got any others Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Akin, but no matter what you think, I am concerned for your life, so I'll only say this once; if you talk too much or ask too many questions, you might say something that interests the Community, and you really, really don't want to get them interested. - The Side Street Chonicles by C.W. Badie - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [scifinoir2] OT: Bhutto Apparently Killed in Attack
I admired this person greatly. When I first heard about her I was curios. How can a woman be a leader in a Muslim country? I know that Pakistan is moderate but I was still curious. I came to admired because she was the complete package. She was intelligent, driven, beautiful etc. She did not go through the motions of being a leader. When women leaders were not common, she did not run as a woman but as a leader. She could be a woman but also be to a tough task master. I am sure that the other opposition leader could be involved too. He could be far more favorable to the army. Who knows. This is very depressing news. **See AOL's top rated recipes (http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop000304) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
RE: [scifinoir2] Call for: Worse Saves In SciFi History
Amen. And let me know if you're successful with that 'normal hours' thing. I gave up on that a long time ago. Seems I was getting stressed about getting to sleep, and that was keeping me awake! :o) Now, I set the timer on my TV and put on my CPAP before I start watching TV. I invariably wake up about six hours later rested, and with fewer nightmares caused by my TV freaking out my subconscious. That, and I stopped drinking coffee...gr... Maurice Jennings Have you or someone you know been threatened with foreclosure? KEEP your home and Stop Foreclosure in its Tracks! Get a Free, No Obligation Evaluation = http://www.legacyhomesavers.com http://www.legacyhomesavers.com/ _ From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Martin Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 8:55 AM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Call for: Worse Saves In SciFi History Tracey, know this. No matter how tough those times may get, we're here for you. Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com aladvantage.com wrote: I do not know. I do not think that tops the list - except for the prophet's rescue. I would like to see the whole series again. it comes on t 11:00 am sporadically and at 2:00 am, however, I am trying out an experiment with trying to go to bed at normal hours. Tough times ahead KeithBJohnson@ mailto:KeithBJohnson%40comcast.net comcast.net wrote: Well, there's the time when two thousand Dominion ships were coming through the wormhole and the Prophets simply got rid of them. That might be the scene, since it was such a neat fix, but that's not the end of the War, technically. At the true end, Section 31 had of course infected the Changelings with a virus that was killing them all. Cardassia had risen against the Dominion, which devastated the planet in punishment. But, the Romulans had finally joined the Federation/Klingon alliance against the Dominion (thanks to Sisko and Garak's subterfuge) and the Prophets prevented more Dominion ships to come into the Alpha quadrant. Still, victory wasn't certain for either side, so Odo helped broker a deal: he would impart his healed DNA to the Changelings, and they would end the war. He healed the one Changeling who'd been running the campaign in the Alpha Quadrant, then travelled to the Changeling home world and gave them the cure. Perhaps that ending was too pat for him? -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com aladvantage.com Refresh my memory. I forgot how it ended. Didn't the shape changers start melting and Odo dump Kira, who, he had loved forever, to cure and stay with them? Daryle wrote: The End of the Dominion War. On 12/26/07 2:38 PM, Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com aladvantage.com wrote: During our discussion about over the top with bad plot block busters, we started talking about over the worse saves in speculative fiction movies. So far two were raised. They are: 1. Data putting the freakin' Borg *to sleep* to save the day in Star Trek Next Generation 2. How Jeff Goldblum was able to with his Mac laptop and a few hours of virus coding couldn't topple the computer system of a technologically superior society of interstellar conquerors on the first try in Independence Day Got any others Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country - Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [scifinoir2] Call for: Worse Saves In SciFi History
Tracey, know this. No matter how tough those times may get, we're here for you. Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I do not know. I do not think that tops the list - except for the prophet's rescue. I would like to see the whole series again. it comes on t 11:00 am sporadically and at 2:00 am, however, I am trying out an experiment with trying to go to bed at normal hours.Tough times ahead [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, there's the time when two thousand Dominion ships were coming through the wormhole and the Prophets simply got rid of them. That might be the scene, since it was such a neat fix, but that's not the end of the War, technically. At the true end, Section 31 had of course infected the Changelings with a virus that was killing them all. Cardassia had risen against the Dominion, which devastated the planet in punishment. But, the Romulans had finally joined the Federation/Klingon alliance against the Dominion (thanks to Sisko and Garak's subterfuge) and the Prophets prevented more Dominion ships to come into the Alpha quadrant. Still, victory wasn't certain for either side, so Odo helped broker a deal: he would impart his healed DNA to the Changelings, and they would end the war. He healed the one Changeling who'd been running the campaign in the Alpha Quadrant, then travelled to the Changeling home world and gave them the cure. Perhaps that ending was too pat for him? -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Refresh my memory. I forgot how it ended. Didn't the shape changers start melting and Odo dump Kira, who, he had loved forever, to cure and stay with them? Daryle wrote: The End of the Dominion War. On 12/26/07 2:38 PM, Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: During our discussion about over the top with bad plot block busters, we started talking about over the worse saves in speculative fiction movies. So far two were raised. They are: 1. Data putting the freakin' Borg *to sleep* to save the day in Star Trek Next Generation 2. How Jeff Goldblum was able to with his Mac laptop and a few hours of virus coding couldn't topple the computer system of a technologically superior society of interstellar conquerors on the first try in Independence Day Got any others Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country - Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [scifinoir2] Call for: Worse Saves In SciFi History
LOL!! -- Original message -- From: Astromancer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Let me fix that...(big screen, big screen, big screen...) You can hav the big screen and buy the collections later...(big screen, big screen, big screen...) Everything will look so much better on that BIG SCREEN...this is only a suggestion... [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: you know, Tracey, just dicussing DS9 makes me nostalgic. I was up really late this morning, and Voyager was being shown on Spike TV at 1 am. I feel asleep, but when i awoke for a moment an hour or so later, i think i heard an ep of DS9 in the background. Fell asleep again, but remember feeling vaguely angry at why it'd be on at such an inaccesible hour. I got about two hundred bucks worth of Best Buy gift cards for Christmas. I keep bouncing back between saving them for a big flatscreen plasma TV, or getting the complete run of one of my favorite series: Avatar, Battlestar Galactica, Homicide (one of the greatest TV dramas ever), Babylon 5, original Trek, or DS9. I keep finding myself leaning towards DS9... -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Refresh my memory. I forgot how it ended. Didn't the shape changers start melting and Odo dump Kira, who, he had loved forever, to cure and stay with them? Daryle wrote: The End of the Dominion War. On 12/26/07 2:38 PM, Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: During our discussion about over the top with bad plot block busters, we started talking about over the worse saves in speculative fiction movies. So far two were raised. They are: 1. Data putting the freakin' Borg *to sleep* to save the day in Star Trek Next Generation 2. How Jeff Goldblum was able to with his Mac laptop and a few hours of virus coding couldn't topple the computer system of a technologically superior society of interstellar conquerors on the first try in Independence Day Got any others Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Akin, but no matter what you think, I am concerned for your life, so Ill only say this once; if you talk too much or ask too many questions, you might say something that interests the Community, and you really, really dont want to get them interested. - The Side Street Chonicles by C.W. Badie - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[scifinoir2] Re: McDuffie's BBS?
How does one access McDuffie's BBS? --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, tetsuwanatom1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone here participate? Some interesting discussion going down, like how much Torchwood sucks (truly does) or the anti John Stewart, pro Hal Jordan battle among fandom being about race.
[scifinoir2] OT: Bhutto Apparently Killed in Attack
Holy crap. I wonder who's behind this, and why she, of all the claimants for leadership of Pakistan, seems to have been the most viciously and consistently targeted? You know there will be major examinations of Musharif, but surely he's not involved...? News stories are extremely incomplete, so the body of this article might say she was only injured, though the title says she died... ** http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/asiapcf/12/27/pakistan.sharif/index.html RAWALPINDI, Pakistan (CNN) -- Pakistan former Prime Minister Benazir Bhutto was targeted in a deadly suicide bombing Thursday. Media reports quote her husband saying she suffered a bullet wound to the neck in the attack. The attack has left at least 14 dead and 40 injured, Tariq Azim Khan, the country's former information minister, told CNN in a telephone interview. Bhutto's husband, Asif Ali Zardari told CNN affiliate Geo TV that his wife was shot in the neck in the attack. The attacker is said to have detonated a bomb as he tried to enter the rally where thousands of people gathered to hear Bhutto speak, police said. Bhutto is said to have been leaving the rally when the attack occurred and was taken to a hospital in an unconcious state, the Geo TV report said. Earlier, a spokesman for Bhutto told CNN she was safe and taken away from the scene. Video from the scene of the blast broadcast from Geo TV showed wounded people being loaded into ambulances. Up to 20 people are dead, the report said. Earlier, four supporters of former Pakistan Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif died when members of another political party opened fire on them at a rally near the Islamabad airport Friday, local police said. Several other members of Sharif's party were wounded, police added. While President Pervez Musharraf has promised free and fair parliamentary elections next month, continued instability in the tribal areas and the threat of attack on large crowds has kept people from attending political rallies and dampened the country's political process. Campaigners from various political groups say fewer people are coming out to show their support due to government crackdowns and the threat of violence. At least 136 people were killed and more than 387 wounded on October 18 when a suicide bomber attacked Bhutto's slow-moving motorcade. The former PM returned to the country after eight years of self-imposed exile to a massive show of support in the southern port city of Karachi. Bhutto called it an attack on democracy and vowed it would not deter her political campaign. Today's violence come less than two weeks ahead of January parliamentary elections and as many days after President Pervez Musharraf lifted a six-week-old state of emergency he said was necessary to ensure the country's stability. Critics said Musharraf's political maneuvering was meant to stifle the country's judiciary as well as curb the media and opposition groups to secure more power. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [scifinoir2] Call for: Worse Saves In SciFi History
Thanks for the prompt, folks. Worse sci-fi save ever- Data in The Best of Both Worlds Part 2, when he puts the Borg to sleep. Don't scream too loudly, Keith... Astromancer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ha! Those dumb machines... Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That outsmarting the computer theme seems to appear every season on the Original Star Trek and Next Generation [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How about, Kirk saving the day by outsmarting a super computer, causing it to self-destruct in self-loathing and unreconcilable programming loops? He did that with M5 (How will you atone for the sin of murder...This computer must die...), Nomad (Nomad, you've made three errors, you are flawed. Execute your prime directive. Boom!) and Landru (You are not protecting the Body! Landru! Help me! Boom!) -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] During our discussion about over the top with bad plot block busters, we started talking about over the worse saves in speculative fiction movies. So far two were raised. They are: 1. Data putting the freakin' Borg *to sleep* to save the day in Star Trek Next Generation 2. How Jeff Goldblum was able to with his Mac laptop and a few hours of virus coding couldn't topple the computer system of a technologically superior society of interstellar conquerors on the first try in Independence Day Got any others Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Akin, but no matter what you think, I am concerned for your life, so Ill only say this once; if you talk too much or ask too many questions, you might say something that interests the Community, and you really, really dont want to get them interested. - The Side Street Chonicles by C.W. Badie - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country - Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [scifinoir2] Call for: Worse Saves In SciFi History
you mean, why did he start babbling Error, error! Must analyze error! Faulty! Faulty! Must sterilize imperfection! ? You're right, they had time to put some anti-grav thingies on him, run through the corridors, and get him on the transporter pad. The funniest thing? Kirk *delays* transport for a second and yells one last time Nomad! Execute your prime function!, while Nomad is screaming Must sterilize imperfection! What if he'd gone boom! right there on the pad?! -- Original message -- From: Astromancer [EMAIL PROTECTED] I've always wondered...Why didn't NOMAD blow up the moment he had discovered his error? oh yeah, it was in the script... [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How about, Kirk saving the day by outsmarting a super computer, causing it to self-destruct in self-loathing and unreconcilable programming loops? He did that with M5 (How will you atone for the sin of murder...This computer must die...), Nomad (Nomad, you've made three errors, you are flawed. Execute your prime directive. Boom!) and Landru (You are not protecting the Body! Landru! Help me! Boom!) -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] During our discussion about over the top with bad plot block busters, we started talking about over the worse saves in speculative fiction movies. So far two were raised. They are: 1. Data putting the freakin' Borg *to sleep* to save the day in Star Trek Next Generation 2. How Jeff Goldblum was able to with his Mac laptop and a few hours of virus coding couldn't topple the computer system of a technologically superior society of interstellar conquerors on the first try in Independence Day Got any others Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Akin, but no matter what you think, I am concerned for your life, so Ill only say this once; if you talk too much or ask too many questions, you might say something that interests the Community, and you really, really dont want to get them interested. - The Side Street Chonicles by C.W. Badie - Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [scifinoir2] Thieves steal pair of nutcracker statues
Hey, Right Arm! Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Preachify, brother! Astromancer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As I venture into my male adulthood, the Nutcracker has ceased being the title of anything I like talking about... Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071225/ap_on_fe_st/odd_nutcracker_vandalism;_ylt=AuRcKdNFpv7vMP1gLL._QAMZ.3QA Tue Dec 25, 1:55 PM ET Thieves ruined Christmas for one woman this year by stealing the pair of 6-foot-tall nutcracker statues from in front of her house. We didn't know anyone could be so mean, Stacie Hoyles said. It's terrible to say, but this just took my whole Christmas spirit away. The 100-pound statues, which Hoyles and her husband, Craig Hoyles, nicknamed Mr. Nut and Mr. Cracker, were taken Dec. 7 while the couple slept. The couple found Mr. Nut's torso at a roadside about a mile away the next day, and Dublin police found other splintered parts nearby. Officers said it appeared the statue had been dragged through the streets by a car. The other statue was found in a field, partially burned with several parts missing. A neighbor said she heard teenagers stop near her home the night of the theft, according to a police report. The couple bought the statues for $500 four years ago, but Stacie Hoyles said the only replacements she could find were being sold online for $1,500. Yahoo! Groups Links Akin, but no matter what you think, I am concerned for your life, so Ill only say this once; if you talk too much or ask too many questions, you might say something that interests the Community, and you really, really dont want to get them interested. - The Side Street Chonicles by C.W. Badie - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Akin, but no matter what you think, I am concerned for your life, so Ill only say this once; if you talk too much or ask too many questions, you might say something that interests the Community, and you really, really dont want to get them interested. - The Side Street Chonicles by C.W. Badie - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [scifinoir2] Night Watch/ Day Watch- Seen them?
There was a post on here a couple of weeks ago about Night Watch. I sought it out on Netflix because of that post. I found it to be relatively interesting and fun. I have trouble with subtitles but it's just my poor ability to read and watch TV at the same time. It's definitely an entertaining movie though not great film either. It's clearly plot driven rather than effects driven and that always makes me happy. Bosco --- Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I own Night Watch, both book and DVD. The book, I haven't had the chance to really dig into. The DVD was a little wobbly in places, but a good story overall. I'll have to keep my eyes open for Day Watch. Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Looking for some flix to rent on Netflix over the weekend. I just saw a preview for Day Watch, that was interesting. Has anyone hear of it or its prequel Night Watch. Anyone read th trilogy. It got some good reviews. I never heard of them prior to seeing the preview. I think it came out while I was in Mexico. NY Times describes it as Star Wars Meets the Vampires in Moscow. See the plot summaries below. Nightwatch - This first installment of the trilogy based on the best-selling science fiction novels by Russian writer Sergei Lukyanenko plays upon the tension between light and dark, pitting the superhuman Night Watch patrollers (known as the Others) against the shadowed forces of the night. But the biggest fear of all stems from the lines of an ancient prophecy, which warns of a renegade Other whose betrayal could bring chaos to the land. Daywatch - Anton (Konstantin Khabensky) finds himself in the middle of a mythic conflict between the forces of Light and Dark in this sequel to Night Watch, the surprise 2004 hit from Russia. To protect his son, who has come under the control of the dark side, Anton must seek an ancient artifact. But the powerful relic threatens to upset the uneasy peace between the two sides and puts Moscow at risk for a devastating cataclysm in this supernatural thriller. Yahoo! Groups Links There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] I got friends who are in prison and Friends who are dead. I'm gonna tell ya something that I've often said. You know these things that happen, That's just the way it's supposed to be. And I can't help but wonder, Don't ya know it coulda been me. Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ
Re: [scifinoir2] Can't Wait for Cloverfield
Yeah I¹m with you on this. I was sorta excited when the first trailer dropped, but now, I¹m all in. I have a feeling that this might be the first time in a long time that the film may be better than the trailer, because I don¹t get a lot of information from the trailer. Which is SO REFRESHING! Ever since ³Cast Away², There has been very little reason to actually go see a movie, because you know what the major plot turn is going to be from the trailer. Between that and the fact that a lot of the movies are based on stores we already KNOW, Cloverfield could be just what the genre needs! On 12/27/07 9:41 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wanna see an exciting trailer? Then you must check the trailer for Cloverfield, the top-secret monster movie from JJ Abrams (Lost, Alias, MI-3, Star Trek). The monster(s) isn't(aren't) shown, but talk about a suspenseful buildup! Seeing the freakin' Statue of Liberty's head come sailing through the air *all the way from the water* to crash into the street? Awesome. There's also a scene showing the military firing like crazy at something we never see. It reminds me of the great scene in Spieldberg's War of the Worlds when the military attacks the Martians on that hillside and the whole area literally lights up with weapons fire. The Apple site has two trailers. The one labeled trailer is longer and shows more stuff. it's the one you'll see at many other sites. The one labeled teaser gives a slightly different angle. Check 'em out. If you can't see the Apple trailers, try the second link below, which is to a MovieWeb page with lots of videos, including a two second glimpse of the monster (can't see a darn thing, though). Hard to find a lot of stuff on this film, as there's no real officiall movie site, but i included some info from a blogger below the trailers. If nothing else, Abrams knows how to tell an exciting, fast-paced story, and he actually believes in good plotting and acting as well. he also is a fan of old-fashioned monster flicks like Godzilla. So this looks to be a fun ride. The fact that the script has been kept secret, along with any view of the creature, is only heightening the anticipation. I'm looking forward to this movie! Trailers: http://www.apple.com/trailers/paramount/cloverfield/ http://www.movieweb.com/movies/film/53/5153/videos/ *** http://www.boxofficeprophets.com/column/index.cfm?columnID=10118 What is Cloverfield? This is the question that has been debated across North America in the hours since Transformers debuted the teaser to this upcoming 2008 release. Shrouded in mystery since its inception, the plot of Cloverfield is one of the most carefully guarded secrets in Hollywood right now. BOP is generally not in the business of breaking news as it generally leads to more aggravation than it's worth, but for the first time since we unveiled the voice cast of The Incredibles, we are going to make an exception and do so here in order to clear up some of the mystery. Cloverfield is a J.J. Abrams production, so it should not be surprising to hear that a couple of key players from Abrams' television shows are on board. The writer is Drew Goddard. Goddard has been a producer on both Alias and Lost and served as co-executive producer for the latter show's 2007 episodes. Fans of Joss Whedon (and BOP knows there are a ton of you out there since we sometimes double as a Firefly fan site) also know him as a writer for several episodes of Buffy the Vampire Slayer and Angel. Goddard was the principal scribe on Dirty Girls, the episode from Buffy season seven. This episode featured the return of Faith as well as the transition of Nathan Fillion from the recently canceled Firefly to Buffy wherein he portrayed a nefarious, misogynistic man of the cloth. Goddard's work on Angel primarily occurred during that show's final season as well. He wrote the World War II submarine epic, Why We Fight, and earned his place in permanent Whedon-lore for his invention of The Immortal in The Girl in Question. Clearly, he is one of the most inventive and imaginative young writers in the industry. His presence alone is indic ative of a quality work in the offing. Abrams has not left anything to chance, though. He has also hired one of his most trusted co-workers from the early days of Felicity for this project. BOP has confirmed that Matt Reeves is the director on this project. Reeves is the writer/director of the 1996 David Schwimmer comedy, The Pallbearer, and he served as executive producer during the run of Felicity (pre- and post-Keri Russell haircut). Reeves and Abrams created that project together with Reeves even writing and directing the pilot, so their working relationship goes back a decade now. When Goddard came up with the premise for Cloverfield, Reeves was the easy choice to helm the project. [Non-text portions of this
Re: [scifinoir2] Call for: Worse Saves In SciFi History
the mother of a friend of mine kept bees twenty years ago because she was developing arthritis. The bee stings definitely improved her condition greatly. Though, is there a way to get the benefit from the venom without getting stung? -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Never!!! if you have pain, try looking into bee sting therapy. I know it sound nuts, but I heard about it on NPR. It is a growing practice here in the states and apparently very popular in Asia Astromancer wrote: I fell on it, probably tore my rotator cuff...have to have if done before construction season...So you're going back into modeling? Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What happened to your shoulder? Astromancer wrote: I will too, provided I don't need surgery on my shoulder... Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We had one for a while, but all this cross continent moving has changed that. So , I have the same dreams. Hopefully, now that I am getting well and starting to work again, those dreams will become a reality Astromancer wrote: I haven't been to the movies in several years...I either rent DVDs or download them off the net...I dream nightly of owning a big screen TV... Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Agreed. While I think you are a die hard movie goer, The big screen changes the whole movie experience. You will come to love home viewing almost as much as the theatre. Besides you can rent them on Netflix until you can by the collections. I do that with lots of series Astromancer wrote: Let me fix that...(big screen, big screen, big screen...) You can hav the big screen and buy the collections later...(big screen, big screen, big screen...) Everything will look so much better on that BIG SCREEN...this is only a suggestion... [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: you know, Tracey, just dicussing DS9 makes me nostalgic. I was up really late this morning, and Voyager was being shown on Spike TV at 1 am. I feel asleep, but when i awoke for a moment an hour or so later, i think i heard an ep of DS9 in the background. Fell asleep again, but remember feeling vaguely angry at why it'd be on at such an inaccesible hour. I got about two hundred bucks worth of Best Buy gift cards for Christmas. I keep bouncing back between saving them for a big flatscreen plasma TV, or getting the complete run of one of my favorite series: Avatar, Battlestar Galactica, Homicide (one of the greatest TV dramas ever), Babylon 5, original Trek, or DS9. I keep finding myself leaning towards DS9... -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Refresh my memory. I forgot how it ended. Didn't the shape changers start melting and Odo dump Kira, who, he had loved forever, to cure and stay with them? Daryle wrote: The End of the Dominion War. On 12/26/07 2:38 PM, Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: During our discussion about over the top with bad plot block busters, we started talking about over the worse saves in speculative fiction movies. So far two were raised. They are: 1. Data putting the freakin' Borg *to sleep* to save the day in Star Trek Next Generation 2. How Jeff Goldblum was able to with his Mac laptop and a few hours of virus coding couldn't topple the computer system of a technologically superior society of interstellar conquerors on the first try in Independence Day Got any others Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Akin, but no matter what you think, I am concerned for your life, so I'll only say this once; if you talk too much or ask too many questions, you might say something that interests the Community, and you really, really don't want to get them interested. - The Side Street Chonicles by C.W. Badie - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Akin, but no matter what you think, I am concerned for your life, so I'll only say this once; if you talk too much or ask too many questions, you might say something that interests the Community, and you really, really don't want to get them interested. - The Side Street Chonicles by C.W. Badie - Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [scifinoir2] McDuffie's BBS?
I did too, but I sometimes forget about web boards I like. I need that email prompt. I'll have to find it and revisited Martin wrote: I'm registered, but haven't been there in months. Don't know if I'll have the time in the near-future. tetsuwanatom1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone here participate? Some interesting discussion going down, like how much Torchwood sucks (truly does) or the anti John Stewart, pro Hal Jordan battle among fandom being about race. There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [scifinoir2] Night Watch/ Day Watch- Seen them?
Got it on Netflix Martin wrote: I own Night Watch, both book and DVD. The book, I haven't had the chance to really dig into. The DVD was a little wobbly in places, but a good story overall. I'll have to keep my eyes open for Day Watch. Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Looking for some flix to rent on Netflix over the weekend. I just saw a preview for Day Watch, that was interesting. Has anyone hear of it or its prequel Night Watch. Anyone read th trilogy. It got some good reviews. I never heard of them prior to seeing the preview. I think it came out while I was in Mexico. NY Times describes it as Star Wars Meets the Vampires in Moscow. See the plot summaries below. Nightwatch - This first installment of the trilogy based on the best-selling science fiction novels by Russian writer Sergei Lukyanenko plays upon the tension between light and dark, pitting the superhuman Night Watch patrollers (known as the Others) against the shadowed forces of the night. But the biggest fear of all stems from the lines of an ancient prophecy, which warns of a renegade Other whose betrayal could bring chaos to the land. Daywatch - Anton (Konstantin Khabensky) finds himself in the middle of a mythic conflict between the forces of Light and Dark in this sequel to Night Watch, the surprise 2004 hit from Russia. To protect his son, who has come under the control of the dark side, Anton must seek an ancient artifact. But the powerful relic threatens to upset the uneasy peace between the two sides and puts Moscow at risk for a devastating cataclysm in this supernatural thriller. Yahoo! Groups Links There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [scifinoir2] Call for: Worse Saves In SciFi History
I actually like small tvs myself. I do not prefer them, but I shocked my husband when we first started living together. if we both wanted to watch tv and view different programs, I would offer to go watch the small TV in the bedroom. I like the coziness.So you are not totally alone in your penchant for small TVs. However, I would not put a large TV in a storage room. I like them too. Why do you prefer small TVs? Martin wrote: I'm often alone in my weirdness, and I don't think this will be an exception. I've never liked big TVs. I had a 30 once, and hated the thing. I kept in in my bedroom initially, and moved it into my storage room a month later. Since, I've owned nothing bigger than a 19 screen. Right now, I have a 13 Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We had one for a while, but all this cross continent moving has changed that. So , I have the same dreams. Hopefully, now that I am getting well and starting to work again, those dreams will become a reality Astromancer wrote: I haven't been to the movies in several years...I either rent DVDs or download them off the net...I dream nightly of owning a big screen TV... Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Agreed. While I think you are a die hard movie goer, The big screen changes the whole movie experience. You will come to love home viewing almost as much as the theatre. Besides you can rent them on Netflix until you can by the collections. I do that with lots of series Astromancer wrote: Let me fix that...(big screen, big screen, big screen...) You can hav the big screen and buy the collections later...(big screen, big screen, big screen...) Everything will look so much better on that BIG SCREEN...this is only a suggestion... [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: you know, Tracey, just dicussing DS9 makes me nostalgic. I was up really late this morning, and Voyager was being shown on Spike TV at 1 am. I feel asleep, but when i awoke for a moment an hour or so later, i think i heard an ep of DS9 in the background. Fell asleep again, but remember feeling vaguely angry at why it'd be on at such an inaccesible hour. I got about two hundred bucks worth of Best Buy gift cards for Christmas. I keep bouncing back between saving them for a big flatscreen plasma TV, or getting the complete run of one of my favorite series: Avatar, Battlestar Galactica, Homicide (one of the greatest TV dramas ever), Babylon 5, original Trek, or DS9. I keep finding myself leaning towards DS9... -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Refresh my memory. I forgot how it ended. Didn't the shape changers start melting and Odo dump Kira, who, he had loved forever, to cure and stay with them? Daryle wrote: The End of the Dominion War. On 12/26/07 2:38 PM, Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: During our discussion about over the top with bad plot block busters, we started talking about over the worse saves in speculative fiction movies. So far two were raised. They are: 1. Data putting the freakin' Borg *to sleep* to save the day in Star Trek Next Generation 2. How Jeff Goldblum was able to with his Mac laptop and a few hours of virus coding couldn't topple the computer system of a technologically superior society of interstellar conquerors on the first try in Independence Day Got any others Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Akin, but no matter what you think, I am concerned for your life, so I'll only say this once; if you talk too much or ask too many questions, you might say something that interests the Community, and you really, really don't want to get them interested. - The Side Street Chonicles by C.W. Badie - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Akin, but no matter what you think, I am concerned for your life, so I'll only say this once; if you talk too much or ask too many questions, you might say something that interests the Community, and you really, really don't want to get them interested. - The Side Street Chonicles by C.W. Badie - Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them
Re: [scifinoir2] Call for: Worse Saves In SciFi History
they got it on Netflix. David Hasselhoff is in it too. Totally missed this one [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: how is this possible??? I've never even *heard* of this film, let alone seen it! That *never* happens. Sounds like a classically bad flick. Gotta find it! -- Original message -- From: Astromancer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sorry, folks...the ABSOLUTE worst save in Sci Fi history was in the spaghetti sci-fi flick 'Star Crash'...Christopher Plummer was the Emperor of the Universe...a bounty Hunter has found his kidnapped son and he arrives on the planet...The bouty hunter and son tell him Sire, we only have 2 minutes to leave the planet before it explodes! the audience in the theatre as well as I was murmering how the heck are they going to get out of this when suddenly the Emperor looks at them and says Do not worry, I am not the Emperor of the Univese for nothing. He then looks to the sky and says Spaceship! Halt the flow of time! There was dead silence for a good second before the laughter, groan and cat calls began. The movie was so bad, I fell in love with it...I've been looking for it ever since to add to my collection! Astromancer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've always wondered...Why didn't NOMAD blow up the moment he had discovered his error? oh yeah, it was in the script... [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How about, Kirk saving the day by outsmarting a super computer, causing it to self-destruct in self-loathing and unreconcilable programming loops? He did that with M5 (How will you atone for the sin of murder...This computer must die...), Nomad (Nomad, you've made three errors, you are flawed. Execute your prime directive. Boom!) and Landru (You are not protecting the Body! Landru! Help me! Boom!) -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] During our discussion about over the top with bad plot block busters, we started talking about over the worse saves in speculative fiction movies. So far two were raised. They are: 1. Data putting the freakin' Borg *to sleep* to save the day in Star Trek Next Generation 2. How Jeff Goldblum was able to with his Mac laptop and a few hours of virus coding couldn't topple the computer system of a technologically superior society of interstellar conquerors on the first try in Independence Day Got any others Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Akin, but no matter what you think, I am concerned for your life, so I'll only say this once; if you talk too much or ask too many questions, you might say something that interests the Community, and you really, really don't want to get them interested. - The Side Street Chonicles by C.W. Badie - Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Akin, but no matter what you think, I am concerned for your life, so I'll only say this once; if you talk too much or ask too many questions, you might say something that interests the Community, and you really, really don't want to get them interested. - The Side Street Chonicles by C.W. Badie - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [scifinoir2] Call for: Worse Saves In SciFi History
Never!!!if you have pain, try looking into bee sting therapy. I know it sound nuts, but I heard about it on NPR. It is a growing practice here in the states and apparently very popular in Asia Astromancer wrote: I fell on it, probably tore my rotator cuff...have to have if done before construction season...So you're going back into modeling? Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What happened to your shoulder? Astromancer wrote: I will too, provided I don't need surgery on my shoulder... Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We had one for a while, but all this cross continent moving has changed that. So , I have the same dreams. Hopefully, now that I am getting well and starting to work again, those dreams will become a reality Astromancer wrote: I haven't been to the movies in several years...I either rent DVDs or download them off the net...I dream nightly of owning a big screen TV... Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Agreed. While I think you are a die hard movie goer, The big screen changes the whole movie experience. You will come to love home viewing almost as much as the theatre. Besides you can rent them on Netflix until you can by the collections. I do that with lots of series Astromancer wrote: Let me fix that...(big screen, big screen, big screen...) You can hav the big screen and buy the collections later...(big screen, big screen, big screen...) Everything will look so much better on that BIG SCREEN...this is only a suggestion... [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: you know, Tracey, just dicussing DS9 makes me nostalgic. I was up really late this morning, and Voyager was being shown on Spike TV at 1 am. I feel asleep, but when i awoke for a moment an hour or so later, i think i heard an ep of DS9 in the background. Fell asleep again, but remember feeling vaguely angry at why it'd be on at such an inaccesible hour. I got about two hundred bucks worth of Best Buy gift cards for Christmas. I keep bouncing back between saving them for a big flatscreen plasma TV, or getting the complete run of one of my favorite series: Avatar, Battlestar Galactica, Homicide (one of the greatest TV dramas ever), Babylon 5, original Trek, or DS9. I keep finding myself leaning towards DS9... -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Refresh my memory. I forgot how it ended. Didn't the shape changers start melting and Odo dump Kira, who, he had loved forever, to cure and stay with them? Daryle wrote: The End of the Dominion War. On 12/26/07 2:38 PM, Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: During our discussion about over the top with bad plot block busters, we started talking about over the worse saves in speculative fiction movies. So far two were raised. They are: 1. Data putting the freakin' Borg *to sleep* to save the day in Star Trek Next Generation 2. How Jeff Goldblum was able to with his Mac laptop and a few hours of virus coding couldn't topple the computer system of a technologically superior society of interstellar conquerors on the first try in Independence Day Got any others Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Akin, but no matter what you think, I am concerned for your life, so I'll only say this once; if you talk too much or ask too many questions, you might say something that interests the Community, and you really, really don't want to get them interested. - The Side Street Chonicles by C.W. Badie - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Akin, but no matter what you think, I am concerned for your life, so I'll only say this once; if you talk too much or ask too many questions, you might say something that interests the Community, and you really, really don't want to get them interested. - The Side Street Chonicles by C.W. Badie - Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Akin, but no matter what you think, I am concerned for your life, so I'll only say this once; if you talk too much or ask too many questions, you might say something that interests the Community, and you really, really don't want to get them interested. - The Side
RE: [scifinoir2] National Treasure 2 Rules Box Office - :(
8-O Movie, yes, movie, yes! LMNAO! Martin (can't go there- likes girls and is allergic to feathers) Reece Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: U...you mean the movie, right? I mean, duck love...YIKES!!! Maurice Jennings Have you or someone you know been threatened with foreclosure? KEEP your home and Stop Foreclosure in its Tracks! Get a Free, No Obligation Evaluation = http://www.legacyhomesavers.com http://www.legacyhomesavers.com/ _ From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Martin Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2007 12:16 PM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] National Treasure 2 Rules Box Office - :( Tracey, to put you at ease, I'm going to reveal one of my deepest, darkest movie secrets. I love Howard the Duck. Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com aladvantage.com wrote: Keith I know you are disappointed in me, but for mindless fluff sitting in the comfort of my home, I liked the first one. :( Martin wrote: But...but...I *wanna* throw away my money! Mindless stupididty is my milieu! KeithBJohnson@ mailto:KeithBJohnson%40comcast.net comcast.net wrote: I really hope none of you fine people contributed any ducats to making National Treasure 2 the number one movie over the Christmas weekend. I tried to watch the first movie a couple of years ago, on a Sunday night, as background noise while I cleaned up. I turned it off with 45 minutes to go. Silly concepts, preposterous occurrences, autopilot acting by Cage and Voight (just show me the money!!). Not fun or clever or engaging at all. Despite what some think of me, i'm not a movie snob, don't have a thing against low brow humour (saw Knocked Up recently and loved it) or mindless action flicks. Im the guy who will watch The Warriors every single time it airs (much to my wife's consternation!) And Face Off? Pure cinematic pleasure of adrenalin, over-the-top acting, and things that go boom!. Love that flick. But National Treasure sucked, and I hear the sequel is even dumber in plot. Mount Rushmore built just to hide a city of gold. A secret book passed down from one President to another that details, among other things, the truth of what's kept in Area 51? Brotherrr! Please tell me none of you watched it? National Treasure sleighs Christmas box office Tue Dec 25, 2:27 PM ET Nicolas Cage's adventure sequel National Treasure: Book of Secrets raced to $65 million during its first five days of release across North America, distributor Walt Disney Pictures said on Tuesday. The tally consists of actual sales for the four days since the film opened last Friday, and a Christmas day estimate. Final sales data will be issued on Wednesday. Through December 24, the film had also earned $27.5 million in 17 international markets, mostly in Asia. The critically maligned sequel to the 2004 smash National Treasure stars Cage as a treasure hunter who flies around the world trying to solve an ancient puzzle related to Lincoln's assassination. Will Smith's sci-fi thriller I Am Legend was No. 2 with five-day sales of $47.5 million, taking its 12-day haul to $150.8 million, said Warner Bros. Pictures. Because of the holiday, data for many films were incomplete. Twentieth Century Fox reported a four-day tally of $32.8 million for its surprise hit Alvin and the Chipmunks, saying it was impossible to estimate Christmas Day sales. After 11 days, the kids film has earned $88.7 million. The fact-based political comedy Charlie Wilson's War earned $14.75 million, and the Johnny Depp musical Sweeney Todd $12.75 million, both after five days. Their respective studios, Universal Pictures and DreamWorks Pictures, warned that the Christmas Day components were rough guesses. The box office jury is still out on Charlie Wilson, a high-profile vehicle starring Tom Hanks and Julia Roberts, which is playing in twice as many theaters as Sweeney Todd, which DreamWorks co-produced with Warner Bros. Further down the rankings, P.S. I Love You had earned $9.1 million in its first five days. After a low-key opening weekend, Warner Bros. said it hoped more women would turn out in force for the Hilary Swank tearjerker now that Christmas-related chores are behind them. The musical spoof Walk Hard: The Dewey Cox Story reported a four-day haul of $4.7 million. Distributor Columbia Pictures did not have a Christmas Day estimate for the box office disappointment. Midfield rankings will change when final data are issued Wednesday because they will include sales for three Christmas Day releases: the action sequel Alien vs. Predator: Requiem, the Denzel Washington drama The Great Debaters, and the family fantasy The Water Horse: Legend of the Deep. Walt Disney Pictures is a unit
Re: [scifinoir2] Saw 28 Weeks on DVD- Plot Holes, Plot Holes ....
Now they are doing Russia. I hate it. With a little effort with the plot, it could have been a good plot. It seems as if screen writers are getting increasingly sloppy with plot holes these days Martin wrote: My thoughts? They should've left it at 28 Days After. Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've never been a big zombie movie fan, but I loved 28 days. I think it will one day be considered a classic. So I was really looking forward to the sequel. Well we finally checked it out last night. It had lots of great elements that reminded me of how Aliens complimented Alien, but they really let me down with the numerous plot holes. and now there is going to be a third installment in Russia. Any thoughts? Yahoo! Groups Links There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [scifinoir2] OT: Bhutto Apparently Killed in Attack
I'm still numb at the realization. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I admired this person greatly. When I first heard about her I was curios. How can a woman be a leader in a Muslim country? I know that Pakistan is moderate but I was still curious. I came to admired because she was the complete package. She was intelligent, driven, beautiful etc. She did not go through the motions of being a leader. When women leaders were not common, she did not run as a woman but as a leader. She could be a woman but also be to a tough task master. I am sure that the other opposition leader could be involved too. He could be far more favorable to the army. Who knows. This is very depressing news. **See AOL's top rated recipes (http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop000304) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [scifinoir2] OT: Bhutto Apparently Killed in Attack
I'm still numb at the realization. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I admired this person greatly. When I first heard about her I was curios. How can a woman be a leader in a Muslim country? I know that Pakistan is moderate but I was still curious. I came to admired because she was the complete package. She was intelligent, driven, beautiful etc. She did not go through the motions of being a leader. When women leaders were not common, she did not run as a woman but as a leader. She could be a woman but also be to a tough task master. I am sure that the other opposition leader could be involved too. He could be far more favorable to the army. Who knows. This is very depressing news. **See AOL's top rated recipes (http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop000304) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country - Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [scifinoir2] Call for: Worse Saves In SciFi History
Yes, you do. The finer treats are often found at the bottom of the cupboard. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: how is this possible??? I've never even *heard* of this film, let alone seen it! That *never* happens. Sounds like a classically bad flick. Gotta find it! -- Original message -- From: Astromancer Sorry, folks...the ABSOLUTE worst save in Sci Fi history was in the spaghetti sci-fi flick 'Star Crash'...Christopher Plummer was the Emperor of the Universe...a bounty Hunter has found his kidnapped son and he arrives on the planet...The bouty hunter and son tell him Sire, we only have 2 minutes to leave the planet before it explodes! the audience in the theatre as well as I was murmering how the heck are they going to get out of this when suddenly the Emperor looks at them and says Do not worry, I am not the Emperor of the Univese for nothing. He then looks to the sky and says Spaceship! Halt the flow of time! There was dead silence for a good second before the laughter, groan and cat calls began. The movie was so bad, I fell in love with it...I've been looking for it ever since to add to my collection! Astromancer wrote: I've always wondered...Why didn't NOMAD blow up the moment he had discovered his error? oh yeah, it was in the script... [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How about, Kirk saving the day by outsmarting a super computer, causing it to self-destruct in self-loathing and unreconcilable programming loops? He did that with M5 (How will you atone for the sin of murder...This computer must die...), Nomad (Nomad, you've made three errors, you are flawed. Execute your prime directive. Boom!) and Landru (You are not protecting the Body! Landru! Help me! Boom!) -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) During our discussion about over the top with bad plot block busters, we started talking about over the worse saves in speculative fiction movies. So far two were raised. They are: 1. Data putting the freakin' Borg *to sleep* to save the day in Star Trek Next Generation 2. How Jeff Goldblum was able to with his Mac laptop and a few hours of virus coding couldn't topple the computer system of a technologically superior society of interstellar conquerors on the first try in Independence Day Got any others Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Akin, but no matter what you think, I am concerned for your life, so Ill only say this once; if you talk too much or ask too many questions, you might say something that interests the Community, and you really, really dont want to get them interested. - The Side Street Chonicles by C.W. Badie - Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Akin, but no matter what you think, I am concerned for your life, so Ill only say this once; if you talk too much or ask too many questions, you might say something that interests the Community, and you really, really dont want to get them interested. - The Side Street Chonicles by C.W. Badie - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [scifinoir2] Call for: Worse Saves In SciFi History
i don't like small TVs or screens. My living room TV is 32 and i can't wait to upgrade to a 42 or 50 plasma so i can watch it from the den as well. (that'll proabably be next Christmas, though). I really like to see detail on the screen, so small screens bug me. i like to be immersed in the complete audio-visual experience (which is why, Tracey, I'll never give up the theatrical experience, even when i get a big flatscreen). I do feel you on the small rooms, though. i wonder if it's because I grew up in a small house (five rooms, three brothers in one bedroom) but I like smaller, cozier, feeling rooms. When I see apartments or houses with giant open plans and soaring, vaulted ceilings, i feel nervous and exposed. Seriously. The biggest thing my wife and i had when we bought our house is that, since it's older, it has smaller, discrete rooms, and only 8' ceilings. My wife--who is only 5' tall--feels closed in by the rooms and the low ceiling. But I--standing 6'1--feel just fine. She wants our next house to be open plan, where the kitchen, den, and living room are all more or less visible, similar to one big one. She even has been talking about getting a loft. My comment to her was that if we do that, i'll almost never be in the living room, probably spending all my time in a smaller guest bedroom. And a loft is right out, i'm afraid. I was the kind of kid who'd find a spot on the couch, then cover myself in pillows to have a fort or something, and feel completely snug and comfortable. The first time I left my neighborhood on foot (instead of in a car) i was a young child walking our dogs with my mom. My old neighborhood is surrounded by freeways, a river, and a railroad track, and has lots of trees. It's one of those where you can feel a bit sequesterd in spots. So, when we walked out of the neighborhood i was greeted by the sight of the trees dropping away to reveal a large expanse of flat land that ran to the freeway, which arcs upward to a bridge. All around me was open sky, open fields, a giant freeway. I freaked out and had to walk back. Soon as I got behind the cover of the trees again, i felt better. To this day really open spaces make me feel a bit nervous and exposed. You know how some people have nightmares about being entrapped, closed in? My nightmares typically find me in an open plain, flat to the horizon, with the exception of a giant building or ship towering above me. The terror i feel at standing in the shadow of a giant cruise ship or spaceship or building towering a thousand feet above me is hard to describe. Yet i'm not afraid of heights... -- Original message -- From: Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Don't really know. Just always have. And I should clarify- the storage room I speak of was actually the master bedroom of my apartment. I don't like big rooms, either, and didn't even use the room when I had the apartment, save for book and comic storage. I could've gone in and watched it (the TV) easily enough. Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I actually like small tvs myself. I do not prefer them, but I shocked my husband when we first started living together. if we both wanted to watch tv and view different programs, I would offer to go watch the small TV in the bedroom. I like the coziness. So you are not totally alone in your penchant for small TVs. However, I would not put a large TV in a storage room. I like them too. Why do you prefer small TVs? Martin wrote: I'm often alone in my weirdness, and I don't think this will be an exception. I've never liked big TVs. I had a 30 once, and hated the thing. I kept in in my bedroom initially, and moved it into my storage room a month later. Since, I've owned nothing bigger than a 19 screen. Right now, I have a 13 Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) wrote: We had one for a while, but all this cross continent moving has changed that. So , I have the same dreams. Hopefully, now that I am getting well and starting to work again, those dreams will become a reality Astromancer wrote: I haven't been to the movies in several years...I either rent DVDs or download them off the net...I dream nightly of owning a big screen TV... Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) wrote: Agreed. While I think you are a die hard movie goer, The big screen changes the whole movie experience. You will come to love home viewing almost as much as the theatre. Besides you can rent them on Netflix until you can by the collections. I do that with lots of series Astromancer wrote: Let me fix that...(big screen, big screen, big screen...) You can hav the big screen and buy the collections later...(big screen, big screen, big screen...) Everything will look so much better on that BIG SCREEN...this is only a suggestion... [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: you know, Tracey, just dicussing DS9 makes
Re: [scifinoir2] OT: Bhutto Apparently Killed in Attack
Keith, put nothing past anyone. The official story, as I've gathered it to date, is that there was a suicide bomber at the rally she was attending. She was unhurt, and whisked away in her car so quickly that it led to initial reports that she'd been injured in the bombing. It was as she fled that when her car was shot at. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Holy crap. I wonder who's behind this, and why she, of all the claimants for leadership of Pakistan, seems to have been the most viciously and consistently targeted? You know there will be major examinations of Musharif, but surely he's not involved...? News stories are extremely incomplete, so the body of this article might say she was only injured, though the title says she died... ** http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/asiapcf/12/27/pakistan.sharif/index.html RAWALPINDI, Pakistan (CNN) -- Pakistan former Prime Minister Benazir Bhutto was targeted in a deadly suicide bombing Thursday. Media reports quote her husband saying she suffered a bullet wound to the neck in the attack. The attack has left at least 14 dead and 40 injured, Tariq Azim Khan, the country's former information minister, told CNN in a telephone interview. Bhutto's husband, Asif Ali Zardari told CNN affiliate Geo TV that his wife was shot in the neck in the attack. The attacker is said to have detonated a bomb as he tried to enter the rally where thousands of people gathered to hear Bhutto speak, police said. Bhutto is said to have been leaving the rally when the attack occurred and was taken to a hospital in an unconcious state, the Geo TV report said. Earlier, a spokesman for Bhutto told CNN she was safe and taken away from the scene. Video from the scene of the blast broadcast from Geo TV showed wounded people being loaded into ambulances. Up to 20 people are dead, the report said. Earlier, four supporters of former Pakistan Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif died when members of another political party opened fire on them at a rally near the Islamabad airport Friday, local police said. Several other members of Sharif's party were wounded, police added. While President Pervez Musharraf has promised free and fair parliamentary elections next month, continued instability in the tribal areas and the threat of attack on large crowds has kept people from attending political rallies and dampened the country's political process. Campaigners from various political groups say fewer people are coming out to show their support due to government crackdowns and the threat of violence. At least 136 people were killed and more than 387 wounded on October 18 when a suicide bomber attacked Bhutto's slow-moving motorcade. The former PM returned to the country after eight years of self-imposed exile to a massive show of support in the southern port city of Karachi. Bhutto called it an attack on democracy and vowed it would not deter her political campaign. Today's violence come less than two weeks ahead of January parliamentary elections and as many days after President Pervez Musharraf lifted a six-week-old state of emergency he said was necessary to ensure the country's stability. Critics said Musharraf's political maneuvering was meant to stifle the country's judiciary as well as curb the media and opposition groups to secure more power. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country - Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [scifinoir2] Call for: Worse Saves In SciFi History
Don't really know. Just always have. And I should clarify- the storage room I speak of was actually the master bedroom of my apartment. I don't like big rooms, either, and didn't even use the room when I had the apartment, save for book and comic storage. I could've gone in and watched it (the TV) easily enough. Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I actually like small tvs myself. I do not prefer them, but I shocked my husband when we first started living together. if we both wanted to watch tv and view different programs, I would offer to go watch the small TV in the bedroom. I like the coziness. So you are not totally alone in your penchant for small TVs. However, I would not put a large TV in a storage room. I like them too. Why do you prefer small TVs? Martin wrote: I'm often alone in my weirdness, and I don't think this will be an exception. I've never liked big TVs. I had a 30 once, and hated the thing. I kept in in my bedroom initially, and moved it into my storage room a month later. Since, I've owned nothing bigger than a 19 screen. Right now, I have a 13 Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) wrote: We had one for a while, but all this cross continent moving has changed that. So , I have the same dreams. Hopefully, now that I am getting well and starting to work again, those dreams will become a reality Astromancer wrote: I haven't been to the movies in several years...I either rent DVDs or download them off the net...I dream nightly of owning a big screen TV... Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) wrote: Agreed. While I think you are a die hard movie goer, The big screen changes the whole movie experience. You will come to love home viewing almost as much as the theatre. Besides you can rent them on Netflix until you can by the collections. I do that with lots of series Astromancer wrote: Let me fix that...(big screen, big screen, big screen...) You can hav the big screen and buy the collections later...(big screen, big screen, big screen...) Everything will look so much better on that BIG SCREEN...this is only a suggestion... [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: you know, Tracey, just dicussing DS9 makes me nostalgic. I was up really late this morning, and Voyager was being shown on Spike TV at 1 am. I feel asleep, but when i awoke for a moment an hour or so later, i think i heard an ep of DS9 in the background. Fell asleep again, but remember feeling vaguely angry at why it'd be on at such an inaccesible hour. I got about two hundred bucks worth of Best Buy gift cards for Christmas. I keep bouncing back between saving them for a big flatscreen plasma TV, or getting the complete run of one of my favorite series: Avatar, Battlestar Galactica, Homicide (one of the greatest TV dramas ever), Babylon 5, original Trek, or DS9. I keep finding myself leaning towards DS9... -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) Refresh my memory. I forgot how it ended. Didn't the shape changers start melting and Odo dump Kira, who, he had loved forever, to cure and stay with them? Daryle wrote: The End of the Dominion War. On 12/26/07 2:38 PM, Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) wrote: During our discussion about over the top with bad plot block busters, we started talking about over the worse saves in speculative fiction movies. So far two were raised. They are: 1. Data putting the freakin' Borg *to sleep* to save the day in Star Trek Next Generation 2. How Jeff Goldblum was able to with his Mac laptop and a few hours of virus coding couldn't topple the computer system of a technologically superior society of interstellar conquerors on the first try in Independence Day Got any others Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Akin, but no matter what you think, I am concerned for your life, so I'll only say this once; if you talk too much or ask too many questions, you might say something that interests the Community, and you really, really don't want to get them interested. - The Side Street Chonicles by C.W. Badie - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Akin, but no matter what you think, I am concerned for your life, so I'll only say this once; if you talk too much or ask too many questions, you might say something that interests the Community, and you really, really don't want to get them interested. - The Side Street
Re: [scifinoir2] Call for: Worse Saves In SciFi History
I've actually had success in the past. The pain from my illness drove me back to the night. Once that went away and I started working again, late night phone meetings with people I am doing business with overseas drove me back to my vampire-like sleeping habits. I was in recovery, but a night of playing Santa's elf with toy assembly has me falling off the wagon again. I would not work so hard at it, but living on the west coast, has my business hours behind those on the East coast, so if I sleep late, I'm calling customers back at the end of the business day Reece Jennings wrote: Amen. And let me know if you're successful with that 'normal hours' thing. I gave up on that a long time ago. Seems I was getting stressed about getting to sleep, and that was keeping me awake! :o) Now, I set the timer on my TV and put on my CPAP before I start watching TV. I invariably wake up about six hours later rested, and with fewer nightmares caused by my TV freaking out my subconscious. That, and I stopped drinking coffee...gr... Maurice Jennings Have you or someone you know been threatened with foreclosure? KEEP your home and Stop Foreclosure in its Tracks! Get a Free, No Obligation Evaluation = http://www.legacyhomesavers.com http://www.legacyhomesavers.com/ _ From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Martin Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 8:55 AM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Call for: Worse Saves In SciFi History Tracey, know this. No matter how tough those times may get, we're here for you. Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com aladvantage.com wrote: I do not know. I do not think that tops the list - except for the prophet's rescue. I would like to see the whole series again. it comes on t 11:00 am sporadically and at 2:00 am, however, I am trying out an experiment with trying to go to bed at normal hours. Tough times ahead KeithBJohnson@ mailto:KeithBJohnson%40comcast.net comcast.net wrote: Well, there's the time when two thousand Dominion ships were coming through the wormhole and the Prophets simply got rid of them. That might be the scene, since it was such a neat fix, but that's not the end of the War, technically. At the true end, Section 31 had of course infected the Changelings with a virus that was killing them all. Cardassia had risen against the Dominion, which devastated the planet in punishment. But, the Romulans had finally joined the Federation/Klingon alliance against the Dominion (thanks to Sisko and Garak's subterfuge) and the Prophets prevented more Dominion ships to come into the Alpha quadrant. Still, victory wasn't certain for either side, so Odo helped broker a deal: he would impart his healed DNA to the Changelings, and they would end the war. He healed the one Changeling who'd been running the campaign in the Alpha Quadrant, then travelled to the Changeling home world and gave them the cure. Perhaps that ending was too pat for him? -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com aladvantage.com Refresh my memory. I forgot how it ended. Didn't the shape changers start melting and Odo dump Kira, who, he had loved forever, to cure and stay with them? Daryle wrote: The End of the Dominion War. On 12/26/07 2:38 PM, Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com aladvantage.com wrote: During our discussion about over the top with bad plot block busters, we started talking about over the worse saves in speculative fiction movies. So far two were raised. They are: 1. Data putting the freakin' Borg *to sleep* to save the day in Star Trek Next Generation 2. How Jeff Goldblum was able to with his Mac laptop and a few hours of virus coding couldn't topple the computer system of a technologically superior society of interstellar conquerors on the first try in Independence Day Got any others Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country - Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of
Re: [scifinoir2] Night Watch/ Day Watch- Seen them?
Next time I'm handed the offer, I'll keep it rather than toss it out. Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Got it on Netflix Martin wrote: I own Night Watch, both book and DVD. The book, I haven't had the chance to really dig into. The DVD was a little wobbly in places, but a good story overall. I'll have to keep my eyes open for Day Watch. Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) wrote: Looking for some flix to rent on Netflix over the weekend. I just saw a preview for Day Watch, that was interesting. Has anyone hear of it or its prequel Night Watch. Anyone read th trilogy. It got some good reviews. I never heard of them prior to seeing the preview. I think it came out while I was in Mexico. NY Times describes it as Star Wars Meets the Vampires in Moscow. See the plot summaries below. Nightwatch - This first installment of the trilogy based on the best-selling science fiction novels by Russian writer Sergei Lukyanenko plays upon the tension between light and dark, pitting the superhuman Night Watch patrollers (known as the Others) against the shadowed forces of the night. But the biggest fear of all stems from the lines of an ancient prophecy, which warns of a renegade Other whose betrayal could bring chaos to the land. Daywatch - Anton (Konstantin Khabensky) finds himself in the middle of a mythic conflict between the forces of Light and Dark in this sequel to Night Watch, the surprise 2004 hit from Russia. To protect his son, who has come under the control of the dark side, Anton must seek an ancient artifact. But the powerful relic threatens to upset the uneasy peace between the two sides and puts Moscow at risk for a devastating cataclysm in this supernatural thriller. Yahoo! Groups Links There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [scifinoir2] Saw 28 Weeks on DVD- Plot Holes, Plot Holes ....
I'm suprised that no one's optioned World War Z yet. Or am I behind the curve? Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now they are doing Russia. I hate it. With a little effort with the plot, it could have been a good plot. It seems as if screen writers are getting increasingly sloppy with plot holes these days Martin wrote: My thoughts? They should've left it at 28 Days After. Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) wrote: I've never been a big zombie movie fan, but I loved 28 days. I think it will one day be considered a classic. So I was really looking forward to the sequel. Well we finally checked it out last night. It had lots of great elements that reminded me of how Aliens complimented Alien, but they really let me down with the numerous plot holes. and now there is going to be a third installment in Russia. Any thoughts? Yahoo! Groups Links There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [scifinoir2] Call for: Worse Saves In SciFi History
Hasselhoff too?! Oh that's just perfect! Now, tell me it's got Jimmy JJ Walker, the guy who played Mr. Drummond on Different Strokes, and a few other Love Boat rejects, and we're in business! -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] they got it on Netflix. David Hasselhoff is in it too. Totally missed this one [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: how is this possible??? I've never even *heard* of this film, let alone seen it! That *never* happens. Sounds like a classically bad flick. Gotta find it! -- Original message -- From: Astromancer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sorry, folks...the ABSOLUTE worst save in Sci Fi history was in the spaghetti sci-fi flick 'Star Crash'...Christopher Plummer was the Emperor of the Universe...a bounty Hunter has found his kidnapped son and he arrives on the planet...The bouty hunter and son tell him Sire, we only have 2 minutes to leave the planet before it explodes! the audience in the theatre as well as I was murmering how the heck are they going to get out of this when suddenly the Emperor looks at them and says Do not worry, I am not the Emperor of the Univese for nothing. He then looks to the sky and says Spaceship! Halt the flow of time! There was dead silence for a good second before the laughter, groan and cat calls began. The movie was so bad, I fell in love with it...I've been looking for it ever since to add to my collection! Astromancer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've always wondered...Why didn't NOMAD blow up the moment he had discovered his error? oh yeah, it was in the script... [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How about, Kirk saving the day by outsmarting a super computer, causing it to self-destruct in self-loathing and unreconcilable programming loops? He did that with M5 (How will you atone for the sin of murder...This computer must die...), Nomad (Nomad, you've made three errors, you are flawed. Execute your prime directive. Boom!) and Landru (You are not protecting the Body! Landru! Help me! Boom!) -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] During our discussion about over the top with bad plot block busters, we started talking about over the worse saves in speculative fiction movies. So far two were raised. They are: 1. Data putting the freakin' Borg *to sleep* to save the day in Star Trek Next Generation 2. How Jeff Goldblum was able to with his Mac laptop and a few hours of virus coding couldn't topple the computer system of a technologically superior society of interstellar conquerors on the first try in Independence Day Got any others Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Akin, but no matter what you think, I am concerned for your life, so I'll only say this once; if you talk too much or ask too many questions, you might say something that interests the Community, and you really, really don't want to get them interested. - The Side Street Chonicles by C.W. Badie - Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Akin, but no matter what you think, I am concerned for your life, so I'll only say this once; if you talk too much or ask too many questions, you might say something that interests the Community, and you really, really don't want to get them interested. - The Side Street Chonicles by C.W. Badie - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [scifinoir2] Night Watch/ Day Watch- Seen them?
Hey Bosco: Thanks for the heads up about the thread. for anyone interested it is at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/message/6472 Are you going to see Daywatch? Bosco Bosco wrote: There was a post on here a couple of weeks ago about Night Watch. I sought it out on Netflix because of that post. I found it to be relatively interesting and fun. I have trouble with subtitles but it's just my poor ability to read and watch TV at the same time. It's definitely an entertaining movie though not great film either. It's clearly plot driven rather than effects driven and that always makes me happy. Bosco --- Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I own Night Watch, both book and DVD. The book, I haven't had the chance to really dig into. The DVD was a little wobbly in places, but a good story overall. I'll have to keep my eyes open for Day Watch. Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Looking for some flix to rent on Netflix over the weekend. I just saw a preview for Day Watch, that was interesting. Has anyone hear of it or its prequel Night Watch. Anyone read th trilogy. It got some good reviews. I never heard of them prior to seeing the preview. I think it came out while I was in Mexico. NY Times describes it as Star Wars Meets the Vampires in Moscow. See the plot summaries below. Nightwatch - This first installment of the trilogy based on the best-selling science fiction novels by Russian writer Sergei Lukyanenko plays upon the tension between light and dark, pitting the superhuman Night Watch patrollers (known as the Others) against the shadowed forces of the night. But the biggest fear of all stems from the lines of an ancient prophecy, which warns of a renegade Other whose betrayal could bring chaos to the land. Daywatch - Anton (Konstantin Khabensky) finds himself in the middle of a mythic conflict between the forces of Light and Dark in this sequel to Night Watch, the surprise 2004 hit from Russia. To protect his son, who has come under the control of the dark side, Anton must seek an ancient artifact. But the powerful relic threatens to upset the uneasy peace between the two sides and puts Moscow at risk for a devastating cataclysm in this supernatural thriller. Yahoo! Groups Links There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] I got friends who are in prison and Friends who are dead. I'm gonna tell ya something that I've often said. You know these things that happen, That's just the way it's supposed to be. And I can't help but wonder, Don't ya know it coulda been me. Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[scifinoir2] Re: Night Watch/ Day Watch- Seen them?
Tracey de Morsella wrote: Looking for some flix to rent on Netflix over the weekend. I just saw a preview for Day Watch, that was interesting. Has anyone hear of it or its prequel Night Watch. Anyone read th trilogy. It got some good reviews. I never heard of them prior to seeing the preview. I think it came out while I was in Mexico. NY Times describes it as Star Wars Meets the Vampires in Moscow. The plots can be convoluted at times, often taking a backseat to cool special effects but they're both fun to watch. Think Highlander with shape shifters, psychics, vampires, magic and lots of red tape. Night Watch is the darker film but the more light-hearted Day Watch is probably the better of the two. I'm really looking forward to the director's next project, Wanted with Angelina Jolie and James McAvoy. ** See AOL's top rated recipes (http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop000304) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
RE: [scifinoir2] National Treasure 2 Rules Box Office - :(
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Re: [scifinoir2] National Treasure 2 Rules Box Office - :(
Forgot to add on the literal duck out of water premise, which I sympathize with daily. I've always felt out of place, even among the Technonerdati. Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wow! Thank you for making yourself vulnerable and opening up. Now the question you had to anticipate... why? Martin wrote: Tracey, to put you at ease, I'm going to reveal one of my deepest, darkest movie secrets. I love Howard the Duck. Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Keith I know you are disappointed in me, but for mindless fluff sitting in the comfort of my home, I liked the first one. :( Martin wrote: But...but...I *wanna* throw away my money! Mindless stupididty is my milieu! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I really hope none of you fine people contributed any ducats to making National Treasure 2 the number one movie over the Christmas weekend. I tried to watch the first movie a couple of years ago, on a Sunday night, as background noise while I cleaned up. I turned it off with 45 minutes to go. Silly concepts, preposterous occurrences, autopilot acting by Cage and Voight (just show me the money!!). Not fun or clever or engaging at all. Despite what some think of me, i'm not a movie snob, don't have a thing against low brow humour (saw Knocked Up recently and loved it) or mindless action flicks. Im the guy who will watch The Warriors every single time it airs (much to my wife's consternation!) And Face Off? Pure cinematic pleasure of adrenalin, over-the-top acting, and things that go boom!. Love that flick. But National Treasure sucked, and I hear the sequel is even dumber in plot. Mount Rushmore built just to hide a city of gold. A secret book passed down from one President to another that details, among other things, the truth of what's kept in Area 51? Brotherrr! Please tell me none of you watched it? National Treasure sleighs Christmas box office Tue Dec 25, 2:27 PM ET Nicolas Cage's adventure sequel National Treasure: Book of Secrets raced to $65 million during its first five days of release across North America, distributor Walt Disney Pictures said on Tuesday. The tally consists of actual sales for the four days since the film opened last Friday, and a Christmas day estimate. Final sales data will be issued on Wednesday. Through December 24, the film had also earned $27.5 million in 17 international markets, mostly in Asia. The critically maligned sequel to the 2004 smash National Treasure stars Cage as a treasure hunter who flies around the world trying to solve an ancient puzzle related to Lincoln's assassination. Will Smith's sci-fi thriller I Am Legend was No. 2 with five-day sales of $47.5 million, taking its 12-day haul to $150.8 million, said Warner Bros. Pictures. Because of the holiday, data for many films were incomplete. Twentieth Century Fox reported a four-day tally of $32.8 million for its surprise hit Alvin and the Chipmunks, saying it was impossible to estimate Christmas Day sales. After 11 days, the kids film has earned $88.7 million. The fact-based political comedy Charlie Wilson's War earned $14.75 million, and the Johnny Depp musical Sweeney Todd $12.75 million, both after five days. Their respective studios, Universal Pictures and DreamWorks Pictures, warned that the Christmas Day components were rough guesses. The box office jury is still out on Charlie Wilson, a high-profile vehicle starring Tom Hanks and Julia Roberts, which is playing in twice as many theaters as Sweeney Todd, which DreamWorks co-produced with Warner Bros. Further down the rankings, P.S. I Love You had earned $9.1 million in its first five days. After a low-key opening weekend, Warner Bros. said it hoped more women would turn out in force for the Hilary Swank tearjerker now that Christmas-related chores are behind them. The musical spoof Walk Hard: The Dewey Cox Story reported a four-day haul of $4.7 million. Distributor Columbia Pictures did not have a Christmas Day estimate for the box office disappointment. Midfield rankings will change when final data are issued Wednesday because they will include sales for three Christmas Day releases: the action sequel Alien vs. Predator: Requiem, the Denzel Washington drama The Great Debaters, and the family fantasy The Water Horse: Legend of the Deep. Walt Disney Pictures is a unit of Walt Disney Co. Warner Bros. is a unit of Time Warner Inc. Twentieth Century Fox is a unit of News Corp. Universal Pictures, a unit of General Electric Co's NBC Universal. DreamWorks Pictures is a unit of Viacom Inc. Columbia Pictures is a unit of Sony Corp. (Reporting by Dean Goodman; Editing by Stuart Grudgings) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along
Re: [scifinoir2] OT: Bhutto Apparently Killed in Attack
that'd be a cleverly devious way to take some out: use the major event to scatter the crowd, get them in a panic, and then--when even the best security measures show gaps as they try to flee--take the target out. i'm really sad about this... -- Original message -- From: Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Keith, put nothing past anyone. The official story, as I've gathered it to date, is that there was a suicide bomber at the rally she was attending. She was unhurt, and whisked away in her car so quickly that it led to initial reports that she'd been injured in the bombing. It was as she fled that when her car was shot at. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Holy crap. I wonder who's behind this, and why she, of all the claimants for leadership of Pakistan, seems to have been the most viciously and consistently targeted? You know there will be major examinations of Musharif, but surely he's not involved...? News stories are extremely incomplete, so the body of this article might say she was only injured, though the title says she died... ** http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/asiapcf/12/27/pakistan.sharif/index.html RAWALPINDI, Pakistan (CNN) -- Pakistan former Prime Minister Benazir Bhutto was targeted in a deadly suicide bombing Thursday. Media reports quote her husband saying she suffered a bullet wound to the neck in the attack. The attack has left at least 14 dead and 40 injured, Tariq Azim Khan, the country's former information minister, told CNN in a telephone interview. Bhutto's husband, Asif Ali Zardari told CNN affiliate Geo TV that his wife was shot in the neck in the attack. The attacker is said to have detonated a bomb as he tried to enter the rally where thousands of people gathered to hear Bhutto speak, police said. Bhutto is said to have been leaving the rally when the attack occurred and was taken to a hospital in an unconcious state, the Geo TV report said. Earlier, a spokesman for Bhutto told CNN she was safe and taken away from the scene. Video from the scene of the blast broadcast from Geo TV showed wounded people being loaded into ambulances. Up to 20 people are dead, the report said. Earlier, four supporters of former Pakistan Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif died when members of another political party opened fire on them at a rally near the Islamabad airport Friday, local police said. Several other members of Sharif's party were wounded, police added. While President Pervez Musharraf has promised free and fair parliamentary elections next month, continued instability in the tribal areas and the threat of attack on large crowds has kept people from attending political rallies and dampened the country's political process. Campaigners from various political groups say fewer people are coming out to show their support due to government crackdowns and the threat of violence. At least 136 people were killed and more than 387 wounded on October 18 when a suicide bomber attacked Bhutto's slow-moving motorcade. The former PM returned to the country after eight years of self-imposed exile to a massive show of support in the southern port city of Karachi. Bhutto called it an attack on democracy and vowed it would not deter her political campaign. Today's violence come less than two weeks ahead of January parliamentary elections and as many days after President Pervez Musharraf lifted a six-week-old state of emergency he said was necessary to ensure the country's stability. Critics said Musharraf's political maneuvering was meant to stifle the country's judiciary as well as curb the media and opposition groups to secure more power. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country - Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Night Watch/ Day Watch- Seen them?
This discussion has reminded me of a series I used to watch in the late 1980's. I believe it came on Friday nights in the Peoria area in syndication. The show was of UK origin and featured a new dark fantasy (and possibly and occasional science fiction theme) each week with no recurring characters - kind of a dark fantasy Outer Limits. Ring any bells? Tracey de Morsella wrote: Looking for some flix to rent on Netflix over the weekend. I just saw a preview for Day Watch, that was interesting. Has anyone hear of it or its prequel Night Watch. Anyone read th trilogy. It got some good reviews. I never heard of them prior to seeing the preview. I think it came out while I was in Mexico. NY Times describes it as Star Wars Meets the Vampires in Moscow. The plots can be convoluted at times, often taking a backseat to cool special effects but they're both fun to watch. Think Highlander with shape shifters, psychics, vampires, magic and lots of red tape. Night Watch is the darker film but the more light-hearted Day Watch is probably the better of the two. I'm really looking forward to the director's next project, Wanted with Angelina Jolie and James McAvoy. ** See AOL's top rated recipes (http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop000304) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
RE: [scifinoir2] National Treasure 2 Rules Box Office - :(
They are easy to assemble - with simple male and female joints. Occasionally, a piece of track may be cut a little off so that the fit is tight - but that is the exception. Overall, she ought to be able to connect the track pieces herself. -Original Message- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2007 7:40 PM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] National Treasure 2 Rules Box Office - :( I was thinking of getting Kira set next year, maybe we will try Brio wooden tracks too. Are they easy to assemble. One of the reasons I put it off this year was tht I did not realize I would be better and I did not think she could assemble the tracks on her own
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Night Watch/ Day Watch- Seen them?
Highlander with shape shifters, psychics, vampires, and lots of red tape? Sounds like the crappy last Highlander movie about the Source. That movie sucked beyond belief! -- Original message -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tracey de Morsella wrote: Looking for some flix to rent on Netflix over the weekend. I just saw a preview for Day Watch, that was interesting. Has anyone hear of it or its prequel Night Watch. Anyone read th trilogy. It got some good reviews. I never heard of them prior to seeing the preview. I think it came out while I was in Mexico. NY Times describes it as Star Wars Meets the Vampires in Moscow. The plots can be convoluted at times, often taking a backseat to cool special effects but they're both fun to watch. Think Highlander with shape shifters, psychics, vampires, magic and lots of red tape. Night Watch is the darker film but the more light-hearted Day Watch is probably the better of the two. I'm really looking forward to the director's next project, Wanted with Angelina Jolie and James McAvoy. ** See AOL's top rated recipes (http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop000304) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [scifinoir2] National Treasure 2 Rules Box Office - :(
Because, for me, it's an autopilot movie, one I can just watch and not feel the need either to analyze or riff it. A while back, I mentioned a movie I saw for the first time, A Matter of Life and Death, which I found so great that I couldn't make fun of it as it went. Howard is one of them. Add on the fact that I loved his comic, when Marvel ran it. He's in a limited series right now, which I'm woefully behind on. Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wow! Thank you for making yourself vulnerable and opening up. Now the question you had to anticipate... why? Martin wrote: Tracey, to put you at ease, I'm going to reveal one of my deepest, darkest movie secrets. I love Howard the Duck. Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Keith I know you are disappointed in me, but for mindless fluff sitting in the comfort of my home, I liked the first one. :( Martin wrote: But...but...I *wanna* throw away my money! Mindless stupididty is my milieu! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I really hope none of you fine people contributed any ducats to making National Treasure 2 the number one movie over the Christmas weekend. I tried to watch the first movie a couple of years ago, on a Sunday night, as background noise while I cleaned up. I turned it off with 45 minutes to go. Silly concepts, preposterous occurrences, autopilot acting by Cage and Voight (just show me the money!!). Not fun or clever or engaging at all. Despite what some think of me, i'm not a movie snob, don't have a thing against low brow humour (saw Knocked Up recently and loved it) or mindless action flicks. Im the guy who will watch The Warriors every single time it airs (much to my wife's consternation!) And Face Off? Pure cinematic pleasure of adrenalin, over-the-top acting, and things that go boom!. Love that flick. But National Treasure sucked, and I hear the sequel is even dumber in plot. Mount Rushmore built just to hide a city of gold. A secret book passed down from one President to another that details, among other things, the truth of what's kept in Area 51? Brotherrr! Please tell me none of you watched it? National Treasure sleighs Christmas box office Tue Dec 25, 2:27 PM ET Nicolas Cage's adventure sequel National Treasure: Book of Secrets raced to $65 million during its first five days of release across North America, distributor Walt Disney Pictures said on Tuesday. The tally consists of actual sales for the four days since the film opened last Friday, and a Christmas day estimate. Final sales data will be issued on Wednesday. Through December 24, the film had also earned $27.5 million in 17 international markets, mostly in Asia. The critically maligned sequel to the 2004 smash National Treasure stars Cage as a treasure hunter who flies around the world trying to solve an ancient puzzle related to Lincoln's assassination. Will Smith's sci-fi thriller I Am Legend was No. 2 with five-day sales of $47.5 million, taking its 12-day haul to $150.8 million, said Warner Bros. Pictures. Because of the holiday, data for many films were incomplete. Twentieth Century Fox reported a four-day tally of $32.8 million for its surprise hit Alvin and the Chipmunks, saying it was impossible to estimate Christmas Day sales. After 11 days, the kids film has earned $88.7 million. The fact-based political comedy Charlie Wilson's War earned $14.75 million, and the Johnny Depp musical Sweeney Todd $12.75 million, both after five days. Their respective studios, Universal Pictures and DreamWorks Pictures, warned that the Christmas Day components were rough guesses. The box office jury is still out on Charlie Wilson, a high-profile vehicle starring Tom Hanks and Julia Roberts, which is playing in twice as many theaters as Sweeney Todd, which DreamWorks co-produced with Warner Bros. Further down the rankings, P.S. I Love You had earned $9.1 million in its first five days. After a low-key opening weekend, Warner Bros. said it hoped more women would turn out in force for the Hilary Swank tearjerker now that Christmas-related chores are behind them. The musical spoof Walk Hard: The Dewey Cox Story reported a four-day haul of $4.7 million. Distributor Columbia Pictures did not have a Christmas Day estimate for the box office disappointment. Midfield rankings will change when final data are issued Wednesday because they will include sales for three Christmas Day releases: the action sequel Alien vs. Predator: Requiem, the Denzel Washington drama The Great Debaters, and the family fantasy The Water Horse: Legend of the Deep. Walt Disney Pictures is a unit of Walt Disney Co. Warner Bros. is a unit of Time Warner Inc. Twentieth Century Fox is a unit of News Corp. Universal Pictures, a unit of General Electric Co's NBC Universal. DreamWorks Pictures is a
[scifinoir2] Re: Night Watch/ Day Watch- Seen them?
I was raving about DayWatch just a few weeks ago. I loved it, especially the imagery. It's non-western so the choices of representative imagery is just slightly off from the way we see things done over-and-over-and-over. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Looking for some flix to rent on Netflix over the weekend. I just saw a preview for Day Watch, that was interesting. Has anyone hear of it or its prequel Night Watch.
World War Z Re: [scifinoir2] Saw 28 Weeks on DVD- Plot Holes, Plot Holes ....
Found it, J. Michael Straczynski is currently writing the script http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0816711/ Ten years after the human victory over the world wide Zombie epidemic, referred to as World War Z, Max Brooks scours the world collecting the stories and experiences of those who have survived the conflict that almost eradicated humanity. You can read a script review at: http://www.iesb.net/index.php?option=com_contenttask=viewid=3947Itemid=99 Martin wrote: I'm suprised that no one's optioned World War Z yet. Or am I behind the curve? Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now they are doing Russia. I hate it. With a little effort with the plot, it could have been a good plot. It seems as if screen writers are getting increasingly sloppy with plot holes these days Martin wrote: Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [scifinoir2] Call for: Worse Saves In SciFi History
I can related there with the small room thing too. I used to have this big one room loft that doubled as a photography studio I shared with a business partner and I kept setting up these small living area nooks instead of using the whole space. I hated the high ceilings (weird huh). If I ever get a loft again, I would get one with an actual loft section for sleeping or one that is sectioned up. I know that is defeating the purpose. My husband, who plays the guitar, loves the open space. Martin wrote: Don't really know. Just always have. And I should clarify- the storage room I speak of was actually the master bedroom of my apartment. I don't like big rooms, either, and didn't even use the room when I had the apartment, save for book and comic storage. I could've gone in and watched it (the TV) easily enough. Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I actually like small tvs myself. I do not prefer them, but I shocked my husband when we first started living together. if we both wanted to watch tv and view different programs, I would offer to go watch the small TV in the bedroom. I like the coziness. So you are not totally alone in your penchant for small TVs. However, I would not put a large TV in a storage room. I like them too. Why do you prefer small TVs? Martin wrote: I'm often alone in my weirdness, and I don't think this will be an exception. I've never liked big TVs. I had a 30 once, and hated the thing. I kept in in my bedroom initially, and moved it into my storage room a month later. Since, I've owned nothing bigger than a 19 screen. Right now, I have a 13 Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) wrote: We had one for a while, but all this cross continent moving has changed that. So , I have the same dreams. Hopefully, now that I am getting well and starting to work again, those dreams will become a reality Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [scifinoir2] Call for: Worse Saves In SciFi History
I get the quality time with the pre-schooler motive. This morning, after getting me up at an ungodly hour, mine just climbed on to the couch I was napping on, got under the covers with me, said Maggie is cool - That is Maggie and the Ferocious Beast for the pre-school TV uninitiated. After I agreed, she gave me a big hug and said I was her very best friend in the whole world I'm s hooked on this stuff. So yeah, I get the little TV with the special chairs thing. Daryle wrote: I¹m going to say something that will probably have my US citizenship revoked. I have a Vizio brand 52 inch LCD HDTV big screen TV, and I hardly watch it. In fact, I think if I got rid of it, and I¹d be pretty happy. I love watching games and an occasional movie on it ...but you know what I like even more? I have an iMac in my office since I think 2004. I LOVE watching movies and TV shows on my computer. When I settled in to watch Sliders season 1 (which is still $20 at Wal Mart, btw) -- iMac. Transformers on DVD? iMac. When I watched the LOTR DVDs it was on a much smaller TV in my office. I enjoy watching that smaller TV with my son because we have our own chairs to sit in and get comfortable. And he¹s 4, so it¹s not really about what¹s on screen, it¹s the time we¹re spending together. We could be listening to radio serials and it would have the same effect. I am waiting for the RE-remastered TOS episodes to go to iTunes because I will download them all and watch them at the end of the day. I watch more TV on my computer than I do on the screen. When I¹m on the road I watch DVDs on my laptop, and if Apple steps up their anime game...iPhone. My iTunes library is pretty big, I listen to more music and podcasts than I watch network TV. IN fact, if it weren¹t for TCM and football, I would only watch like 3 hours of programmed TV a week. I know I can get most of the movies I like on TCM from GreenCine or Netflix. I have been thinking about getting Setanta Sports. If I could get it so that I could watch EPL games on my iMac or laptop...I would really have no reason to watch a large screen TV. In fact, I should run the numbers on what I would be spending if I got a package to watch soccer on my computers and bought tickets to go SEE football games I wanted to see in Charlotte. If I downgraded my cable package, I may actually end up spending the same amount of money and would have more fun. Of course, as I say all this, I ended up getting the Blade Runner DVD for Christmas and have not watched it yet. Once I do, I will probably be taking all of this back. On 12/27/07 5:50 AM, Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We had one for a while, but all this cross continent moving has changed that. So , I have the same dreams. Hopefully, now that I am getting well and starting to work again, those dreams will become a reality Astromancer wrote: I haven't been to the movies in several years...I either rent DVDs or download them off the net...I dream nightly of owning a big screen TV... Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com wrote: Agreed. While I think you are a die hard movie goer, The big screen changes the whole movie experience. You will come to love home viewing almost as much as the theatre. Besides you can rent them on Netflix until you can by the collections. I do that with lots of series Astromancer wrote: Let me fix that...(big screen, big screen, big screen...) You can hav the big screen and buy the collections later...(big screen, big screen, big screen...) Everything will look so much better on that BIG SCREEN...this is only a suggestion... [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:KeithBJohnson%40comcast.net wrote: you know, Tracey, just dicussing DS9 makes me nostalgic. I was up really late this morning, and Voyager was being shown on Spike TV at 1 am. I feel asleep, but when i awoke for a moment an hour or so later, i think i heard an ep of DS9 in the background. Fell asleep again, but remember feeling vaguely angry at why it'd be on at such an inaccesible hour. I got about two hundred bucks worth of Best Buy gift cards for Christmas. I keep bouncing back between saving them for a big flatscreen plasma TV, or getting the complete run of one of my favorite series: Avatar, Battlestar Galactica, Homicide (one of the greatest TV dramas ever), Babylon 5, original Trek, or DS9. I keep finding myself leaning towards DS9... -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com Refresh my memory. I forgot how it ended. Didn't the shape changers start
[scifinoir2] Re: Call for: Worse Saves In SciFi History
My fifteen year-old daughter refuses to watch movies on anything but the iMac in my office. The digital clarity is amazing and it is a much more intimate experience (especially with the lights out). I remember sitting in my high-backed, wide bottomed leather office chair a couple of years ago watching Denzel Washington's directorial debut on the i-Mac with my daughter on my lap and a son on either side of me. Man, that was good viewing. ~rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Daryle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I¹m going to say something that will probably have my US citizenship revoked. I have a Vizio brand 52 inch LCD HDTV big screen TV, and I hardly watch it. In fact, I think if I got rid of it, and I¹d be pretty happy. I love watching games and an occasional movie on it ...but you know what I like even more? I have an iMac in my office since I think 2004. I LOVE watching movies and TV shows on my computer. When I settled in to watch Sliders season 1 (which is still $20 at Wal Mart, btw) -- iMac. Transformers on DVD? iMac. When I watched the LOTR DVDs it was on a much smaller TV in my office. I enjoy watching that smaller TV with my son because we have our own chairs to sit in and get comfortable. And he¹s 4, so it¹s not really about what¹s on screen, it¹s the time we¹re spending together. We could be listening to radio serials and it would have the same effect. I am waiting for the RE-remastered TOS episodes to go to iTunes because I will download them all and watch them at the end of the day. I watch more TV on my computer than I do on the screen. When I¹m on the road I watch DVDs on my laptop, and if Apple steps up their anime game...iPhone. My iTunes library is pretty big, I listen to more music and podcasts than I watch network TV. IN fact, if it weren¹t for TCM and football, I would only watch like 3 hours of programmed TV a week. I know I can get most of the movies I like on TCM from GreenCine or Netflix. I have been thinking about getting Setanta Sports. If I could get it so that I could watch EPL games on my iMac or laptop...I would really have no reason to watch a large screen TV. In fact, I should run the numbers on what I would be spending if I got a package to watch soccer on my computers and bought tickets to go SEE football games I wanted to see in Charlotte. If I downgraded my cable package, I may actually end up spending the same amount of money and would have more fun. Of course, as I say all this, I ended up getting the Blade Runner DVD for Christmas and have not watched it yet. Once I do, I will probably be taking all of this back. On 12/27/07 5:50 AM, Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We had one for a while, but all this cross continent moving has changed that. So , I have the same dreams. Hopefully, now that I am getting well and starting to work again, those dreams will become a reality Astromancer wrote: I haven't been to the movies in several years...I either rent DVDs or download them off the net...I dream nightly of owning a big screen TV... Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com wrote: Agreed. While I think you are a die hard movie goer, The big screen changes the whole movie experience. You will come to love home viewing almost as much as the theatre. Besides you can rent them on Netflix until you can by the collections. I do that with lots of series Astromancer wrote: Let me fix that...(big screen, big screen, big screen...) You can hav the big screen and buy the collections later...(big screen, big screen, big screen...) Everything will look so much better on that BIG SCREEN...this is only a suggestion... [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:KeithBJohnson%40comcast.net wrote: you know, Tracey, just dicussing DS9 makes me nostalgic. I was up really late this morning, and Voyager was being shown on Spike TV at 1 am. I feel asleep, but when i awoke for a moment an hour or so later, i think i heard an ep of DS9 in the background. Fell asleep again, but remember feeling vaguely angry at why it'd be on at such an inaccesible hour. I got about two hundred bucks worth of Best Buy gift cards for Christmas. I keep bouncing back between saving them for a big flatscreen plasma TV, or getting the complete run of one of my favorite series: Avatar, Battlestar Galactica, Homicide (one of the greatest TV dramas ever), Babylon 5, original Trek, or DS9. I keep finding myself leaning towards DS9... -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com Refresh my memory. I forgot how it ended. Didn't the shape changers start melting and Odo
[scifinoir2] Meet Your Makers - a salute to inventors who departed in 2007
Carbs are good for you! (please note that the inventor of Rice-a-Roni and the inventor of Ramen noodles lived to be 92 and 96 respectively). (and, fellas, lets all pour a little wine on the ground for Robert Adler, the inventor of the remote control). ~rave! www.chicagotribune.com/features/lifestyle/chi- mxamakers1227dec27,1,2904513.story chicagotribune.com THE YEAR 2007 IN REVIEW Meet your makers As we bid farewell to 2007, let's salute the departed inventors whose imagination enriches our daily lives By Kevin Pang Tribune staff reporter December 27, 2007 Modern hot air balloon Invented by Paul Edward Yost Died at 87 on May 27 Though hot air balloons date back more than 220 years, Yost, an Iowa- born engineer, developed the technology in the late 1950's that allowed a balloon to carry its own fuel using a liquid propane burner. Yost also popularized the upside-down teardrop shape of modern hot air balloons. Foosball Invented by Alejandro Finisterre Died at 87 on Feb. 9 When a bomb during the Spanish Civil War in 1936 left Finisterre without the use of his legs, the lifelong soccer fan became distraught over the possibility of not playing his favorite game again. So Finisterre found a carpenter who created a table to his specifications and carved figures to resemble players on the pitch. A basement, fraternity house and barroom tradition was born. Remote control Co-invented by Robert Adler Died at 93 on Feb. 15 The Vienna-born physicist pioneered the wireless television remote control while working as an engineer for Zenith Electronics in 1956. Adler improved on an earlier remote control model that used light- emitting technology (it would stop working in direct sunlight) with one that used high-frequency sound to communicate with the television set. Nautilus exercise machines Invented by Arthur Jones Died at 80 on Aug. 28 In the 1960's, Jones changed the perception of fitness and bodybuilding, from the Mr. Universe method of hourslong training sessions to a style that stressed shorter sets with maximum exertion. Jones' Nautilus exercise machines also made strength training more accessible to the recreational user. The equipment did away with free weights, using a cable-and-pulley system that allowed users to easily change resistance. Gatorade Invented by James Robert Cade Died at 80 on Nov. 27 It began with a question from a football coach at the University of Florida: Why don't football players urinate after games? Cade, a professor of medicine at the school, discovered players lost so much fluid through sweating in the sweltering Florida humidity, they had nothing left. Cade concocted Gatorade in 1965 - named after the school's Gators mascot - a lemon-flavored beverage that helped replace essential carbohydrates and electrolytes. Cade later introduced the short-lived Hop'n Gator, an alcoholic version of the drink. Rice-a-Roni Invented by Vincent DeDomenico Died at 92 on Oct. 18 The son of Italian immigrants, the San Francisco-born DeDomenico introduced the San Francisco Treat to millions of dinner tables across the country. It was a neighbor's rice pilaf recipe that inspired DeDomenico to create a rice and macaroni dish for his family's pasta company. He added dry chicken soup mix to rice and vermicelli, packaged it in a cardboard box and began selling it as Rice-a-Roni in 1958. The ubiquitous jingle shortly followed, solidifying the dish's household status. Benadryl Invented by George Rieveschl Died at 91 on Sept. 27 Rieveschl, a chemical engineering professor at the University of Cincinnati, was trying to develop a drug to relieve muscle spasms. Instead, he discovered the drug reduced histamines in the body, a chemical that causes allergy symptoms. In 1946, Rieveschl and partners began marketing this prescription drug under the name Benadryl. Instant Ramen and Cup Noodles Invented by Momofuku Ando Died at 96 on Jan. 5 The Taiwan-born Japanese founder of Nissin Food Products Co. innovated in 1958 the flash-fry method of precooking noodles. In 1971, his Ando's company began selling the Cup Noodles brand in Styrofoam containers, thus providing cheap late-night meals for millions of college students around the world. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Copyright © 2007, Chicago Tribune
Re: [scifinoir2] Call for: Worse Saves In SciFi History
Yeah. Bee venom comes as a prescription, used off label. Meaning it is FDA approved for desensitizing patients from bee-sting allergies, but some doctors are beginning to prescribe it for alleviating pain, inflammation and other ailments. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the mother of a friend of mine kept bees twenty years ago because she was developing arthritis. The bee stings definitely improved her condition greatly. Though, is there a way to get the benefit from the venom without getting stung? -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Never!!! if you have pain, try looking into bee sting therapy. I know it sound nuts, but I heard about it on NPR. It is a growing practice here in the states and apparently very popular in Asia Astromancer wrote: I fell on it, probably tore my rotator cuff...have to have if done before construction season...So you're going back into modeling? Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What happened to your shoulder? Astromancer wrote: I will too, provided I don't need surgery on my shoulder... Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We had one for a while, but all this cross continent moving has changed that. So , I have the same dreams. Hopefully, now that I am getting well and starting to work again, those dreams will become a reality Astromancer wrote: I haven't been to the movies in several years...I either rent DVDs or download them off the net...I dream nightly of owning a big screen TV... Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Agreed. While I think you are a die hard movie goer, The big screen changes the whole movie experience. You will come to love home viewing almost as much as the theatre. Besides you can rent them on Netflix until you can by the collections. I do that with lots of series Astromancer wrote: Let me fix that...(big screen, big screen, big screen...) You can hav the big screen and buy the collections later...(big screen, big screen, big screen...) Everything will look so much better on that BIG SCREEN...this is only a suggestion... [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: you know, Tracey, just dicussing DS9 makes me nostalgic. I was up really late this morning, and Voyager was being shown on Spike TV at 1 am. I feel asleep, but when i awoke for a moment an hour or so later, i think i heard an ep of DS9 in the background. Fell asleep again, but remember feeling vaguely angry at why it'd be on at such an inaccesible hour. I got about two hundred bucks worth of Best Buy gift cards for Christmas. I keep bouncing back between saving them for a big flatscreen plasma TV, or getting the complete run of one of my favorite series: Avatar, Battlestar Galactica, Homicide (one of the greatest TV dramas ever), Babylon 5, original Trek, or DS9. I keep finding myself leaning towards DS9... -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Refresh my memory. I forgot how it ended. Didn't the shape changers start melting and Odo dump Kira, who, he had loved forever, to cure and stay with them? Daryle wrote: The End of the Dominion War. On 12/26/07 2:38 PM, Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: During our discussion about over the top with bad plot block busters, we started talking about over the worse saves in speculative fiction movies. So far two were raised. They are: 1. Data putting the freakin' Borg *to sleep* to save the day in Star Trek Next Generation 2. How Jeff Goldblum was able to with his Mac laptop and a few hours of virus coding couldn't topple the computer system of a technologically superior society of interstellar conquerors on the first try in Independence Day Got any others Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Akin, but no matter what you think, I am concerned for your life, so I'll only say this once; if you talk too much or ask too many questions, you might say something that interests the Community, and you really, really don't want to get them interested. - The Side Street Chonicles by C.W. Badie - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Akin, but no matter what you think, I am concerned for your life, so I'll only say this once; if you talk too much or ask too many questions, you might say something that interests the
Re: [scifinoir2] Saw 28 Weeks on DVD- Plot Holes, Plot Holes ....
What is World War Z ? Martin wrote: I'm suprised that no one's optioned World War Z yet. Or am I behind the curve? Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now they are doing Russia. I hate it. With a little effort with the plot, it could have been a good plot. It seems as if screen writers are getting increasingly sloppy with plot holes these days Martin wrote: My thoughts? They should've left it at 28 Days After. Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) wrote: I've never been a big zombie movie fan, but I loved 28 days. I think it will one day be considered a classic. So I was really looking forward to the sequel. Well we finally checked it out last night. It had lots of great elements that reminded me of how Aliens complimented Alien, but they really let me down with the numerous plot holes. and now there is going to be a third installment in Russia. Any thoughts? Yahoo! Groups Links There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Call for: Worse Saves In SciFi History
Hey Rave; What was Denzel's directorial debut? I don't remember ravenadal wrote: My fifteen year-old daughter refuses to watch movies on anything but the iMac in my office. The digital clarity is amazing and it is a much more intimate experience (especially with the lights out). I remember sitting in my high-backed, wide bottomed leather office chair a couple of years ago watching Denzel Washington's directorial debut on the i-Mac with my daughter on my lap and a son on either side of me. Man, that was good viewing. ~rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Daryle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I¹m going to say something that will probably have my US citizenship revoked. I have a Vizio brand 52 inch LCD HDTV big screen TV, and I hardly watch it. In fact, I think if I got rid of it, and I¹d be pretty happy. I love watching games and an occasional movie on it ...but you know what I like even more? I have an iMac in my office since I think 2004. I LOVE watching movies and TV shows on my computer. When I settled in to watch Sliders season 1 (which is still $20 at Wal Mart, btw) -- iMac. Transformers on DVD? iMac. When I watched the LOTR DVDs it was on a much smaller TV in my office. I enjoy watching that smaller TV with my son because we have our own chairs to sit in and get comfortable. And he¹s 4, so it¹s not really about what¹s on screen, it¹s the time we¹re spending together. We could be listening to radio serials and it would have the same effect. I am waiting for the RE-remastered TOS episodes to go to iTunes because I will download them all and watch them at the end of the day. I watch more TV on my computer than I do on the screen. When I¹m on the road I watch DVDs on my laptop, and if Apple steps up their anime game...iPhone. My iTunes library is pretty big, I listen to more music and podcasts than I watch network TV. IN fact, if it weren¹t for TCM and football, I would only watch like 3 hours of programmed TV a week. I know I can get most of the movies I like on TCM from GreenCine or Netflix. I have been thinking about getting Setanta Sports. If I could get it so that I could watch EPL games on my iMac or laptop...I would really have no reason to watch a large screen TV. In fact, I should run the numbers on what I would be spending if I got a package to watch soccer on my computers and bought tickets to go SEE football games I wanted to see in Charlotte. If I downgraded my cable package, I may actually end up spending the same amount of money and would have more fun. Of course, as I say all this, I ended up getting the Blade Runner DVD for Christmas and have not watched it yet. Once I do, I will probably be taking all of this back. On 12/27/07 5:50 AM, Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We had one for a while, but all this cross continent moving has changed that. So , I have the same dreams. Hopefully, now that I am getting well and starting to work again, those dreams will become a reality Astromancer wrote: I haven't been to the movies in several years...I either rent DVDs or download them off the net...I dream nightly of owning a big screen TV... Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com wrote: Agreed. While I think you are a die hard movie goer, The big screen changes the whole movie experience. You will come to love home viewing almost as much as the theatre. Besides you can rent them on Netflix until you can by the collections. I do that with lots of series Astromancer wrote: Let me fix that...(big screen, big screen, big screen...) You can hav the big screen and buy the collections later...(big screen, big screen, big screen...) Everything will look so much better on that BIG SCREEN...this is only a suggestion... [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:KeithBJohnson%40comcast.net wrote: you know, Tracey, just dicussing DS9 makes me nostalgic. I was up really late this morning, and Voyager was being shown on Spike TV at 1 am. I feel asleep, but when i awoke for a moment an hour or so later, i think i heard an ep of DS9 in the background. Fell asleep again, but remember feeling vaguely angry at why it'd be on at such an inaccesible hour. I got about two
Re: [scifinoir2] OT: Bhutto Apparently Killed in Attack
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Re: [scifinoir2] Call for: Worse Saves In SciFi History
Well there is know duplicating the 50 people yelling at the screen experience that you crave I know there is know getting you out of the theatre. Regarding the Big Room/ Small Room conflict. Chris and I have the reverse. He loves big open room and I like lots of small cozy rooms. If we had the large open living room with the high ceilings, i would hang out in the office or the bedroom. They look pretty, but I feel like I am in a lobby or waiting room. I did the pillow fort thing too. My daughter gets me to do it with her now. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i don't like small TVs or screens. My living room TV is 32 and i can't wait to upgrade to a 42 or 50 plasma so i can watch it from the den as well. (that'll proabably be next Christmas, though). I really like to see detail on the screen, so small screens bug me. i like to be immersed in the complete audio-visual experience (which is why, Tracey, I'll never give up the theatrical experience, even when i get a big flatscreen). I do feel you on the small rooms, though. i wonder if it's because I grew up in a small house (five rooms, three brothers in one bedroom) but I like smaller, cozier, feeling rooms. When I see apartments or houses with giant open plans and soaring, vaulted ceilings, i feel nervous and exposed. Seriously. The biggest thing my wife and i had when we bought our house is that, since it's older, it has smaller, discrete rooms, and only 8' ceilings. My wife--who is only 5' tall--feels closed in by the rooms and the low ceiling. But I--standing 6'1--feel just fine. She wants our next house to be open plan, where the kitchen, den, and living room are all more or less visible, similar to one big one. She even has been talking about getting a loft. My comment to her was that if we do that, i'll almost never be in the living room, probably spending all my time in a smaller guest bedroom. And a loft is right out, i'm afraid. I was the kind of kid who'd find a spot on the couch, then cover myself in pillows to have a fort or something, and feel completely snug and comfortable. The first time I left my neighborhood on foot (instead of in a car) i was a young child walking our dogs with my mom. My old neighborhood is surrounded by freeways, a river, and a railroad track, and has lots of trees. It's one of those where you can feel a bit sequesterd in spots. So, when we walked out of the neighborhood i was greeted by the sight of the trees dropping away to reveal a large expanse of flat land that ran to the freeway, which arcs upward to a bridge. All around me was open sky, open fields, a giant freeway. I freaked out and had to walk back. Soon as I got behind the cover of the trees again, i felt better. To this day really open spaces make me feel a bit nervous and exposed. You know how some people have nightmares about being entrapped, closed in? My nightmares typically find me in an open plain, flat to the horizon, with the exception of a giant building or ship towering above me. The terror i feel at standing in the shadow of a giant cruise ship or spaceship or building towering a thousand feet above me is hard to describe. Yet i'm not afraid of heights... -- Original message -- From: Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Don't really know. Just always have. And I should clarify- the storage room I speak of was actually the master bedroom of my apartment. I don't like big rooms, either, and didn't even use the room when I had the apartment, save for book and comic storage. I could've gone in and watched it (the TV) easily enough. Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I actually like small tvs myself. I do not prefer them, but I shocked my husband when we first started living together. if we both wanted to watch tv and view different programs, I would offer to go watch the small TV in the bedroom. I like the coziness. So you are not totally alone in your penchant for small TVs. However, I would not put a large TV in a storage room. I like them too. Why do you prefer small TVs? Martin wrote: I'm often alone in my weirdness, and I don't think this will be an exception. I've never liked big TVs. I had a 30 once, and hated the thing. I kept in in my bedroom initially, and moved it into my storage room a month later. Since, I've owned nothing bigger than a 19 screen. Right now, I have a 13 Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) wrote: We had one for a while, but all this cross continent moving has changed that. So , I have the same dreams. Hopefully, now that I am getting well and starting to work again, those dreams will become a reality Astromancer wrote: I haven't been to the movies in several years...I either rent DVDs or download them off the net...I dream nightly of owning a big screen TV... Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) wrote: Agreed.
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Night Watch/ Day Watch- Seen them?
No, but you got my attention. anybody, anybody?? James Landrith wrote: This discussion has reminded me of a series I used to watch in the late 1980's. I believe it came on Friday nights in the Peoria area in syndication. The show was of UK origin and featured a new dark fantasy (and possibly and occasional science fiction theme) each week with no recurring characters - kind of a dark fantasy Outer Limits. Ring any bells? Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Night Watch/ Day Watch- Seen them?
Sometimes my box gets so filled, I have to do a mass delete. Unfortunately I missed it, but we are probably going to do a nightwatch/.daywatch movie afternoon on new years day. maidmarian_thepoet wrote: I was raving about DayWatch just a few weeks ago. I loved it, especially the imagery. It's non-western so the choices of representative imagery is just slightly off from the way we see things done over-and-over-and-over. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Looking for some flix to rent on Netflix over the weekend. I just saw a preview for Day Watch, that was interesting. Has anyone hear of it or its prequel Night Watch. Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[scifinoir2] Re: National Treasure 2 Rules Box Office - :(
--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was thinking of getting Kira set next year, maybe we will try Brio wooden tracks too. Are they easy to assemble. Brio tracks are very easy for young children. When my son was about three I bought them for him and he had no problem assembling them at all. They're not cheap cost wise, but as they last forever it averages out in the long run. Meta
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Night Watch/ Day Watch- Seen them?
I remember it. It used to come on Fridays late at night in Philly James Landrith wrote: Upon experimenting with search terms, I have stumbled upon Hammer House of Horror originally broadcast in Europe in 1980 and repackaged for syndication in the U.S. in the mid-1980s. This may be it. I'd have to watch an episode or two to verify: http://homepages.tesco.net/~dr.phibes/ http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0080231/ -Original Message- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 2:05 PM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Night Watch/ Day Watch- Seen them? No, but you got my attention. anybody, anybody?? James Landrith wrote: This discussion has reminded me of a series I used to watch in the late 1980's. I believe it came on Friday nights in the Peoria area in syndication. The show was of UK origin and featured a new dark fantasy (and possibly and occasional science fiction theme) each week with no recurring characters - kind of a dark fantasy Outer Limits. Ring any bells? Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: National Treasure 2 Rules Box Office - :(
You guys are making me wish I got them this Christmas. Maybe I get her a starter pack and the Uncle, Grandmom and I can add on for her B-day and Christmas Meta wrote: --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was thinking of getting Kira set next year, maybe we will try Brio wooden tracks too. Are they easy to assemble. Brio tracks are very easy for young children. When my son was about three I bought them for him and he had no problem assembling them at all. They're not cheap cost wise, but as they last forever it averages out in the long run. Meta Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[scifinoir2] Re: Can't Wait for Cloverfield
I just hope they can keep the intensity and suspense at a high levels throughout the entire movie while dishing up monster movie goodness. I've heard a few spoilerfic rumors and if they are true this movie may be as bleak as The Mist. Have you seen any of the tv spots yet? All I will say is that one of them gives you a better look at the after effects of a monster bite. Yikes. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wanna see an exciting trailer? Then you must check the trailer for Cloverfield, the top-secret monster movie from JJ Abrams (Lost, Alias, MI-3, Star Trek). The monster(s) isn't(aren't) shown, but talk about a suspenseful buildup! Seeing the freakin' Statue of Liberty's head come sailing through the air *all the way from the water* to crash into the street? Awesome. There's also a scene showing the military firing like crazy at something we never see. It reminds me of the great scene in Spieldberg's War of the Worlds when the military attacks the Martians on that hillside and the whole area literally lights up with weapons fire. The Apple site has two trailers. The one labeled trailer is longer and shows more stuff. it's the one you'll see at many other sites. The one labeled teaser gives a slightly different angle. Check 'em out. If you can't see the Apple trailers, try the second link below, which is to a MovieWeb page with lots of videos, including a two second glimpse of the monster (can't see a darn thing, though). Hard to find a lot of stuff on this film, as there's no real officiall movie site, but i included some info from a blogger below the trailers. If nothing else, Abrams knows how to tell an exciting, fast-paced story, and he actually believes in good plotting and acting as well. he also is a fan of old-fashioned monster flicks like Godzilla. So this looks to be a fun ride. The fact that the script has been kept secret, along with any view of the creature, is only heightening the anticipation. I'm looking forward to this movie! Trailers: http://www.apple.com/trailers/paramount/cloverfield/ http://www.movieweb.com/movies/film/53/5153/videos/ *** http://www.boxofficeprophets.com/column/index.cfm?columnID=10118 What is Cloverfield? This is the question that has been debated across North America in the hours since Transformers debuted the teaser to this upcoming 2008 release. Shrouded in mystery since its inception, the plot of Cloverfield is one of the most carefully guarded secrets in Hollywood right now. BOP is generally not in the business of breaking news as it generally leads to more aggravation than it's worth, but for the first time since we unveiled the voice cast of The Incredibles, we are going to make an exception and do so here in order to clear up some of the mystery. Cloverfield is a J.J. Abrams production, so it should not be surprising to hear that a couple of key players from Abrams' television shows are on board. The writer is Drew Goddard. Goddard has been a producer on both Alias and Lost and served as co-executive producer for the latter show's 2007 episodes. Fans of Joss Whedon (and BOP knows there are a ton of you out there since we sometimes double as a Firefly fan site) also know him as a writer for several episodes of Buffy the Vampire Slayer and Angel. Goddard was the principal scribe on Dirty Girls, the episode from Buffy season seven. This episode featured the return of Faith as well as the transition of Nathan Fillion from the recently canceled Firefly to Buffy wherein he portrayed a nefarious, misogynistic man of the cloth. Goddard's work on Angel primarily occurred during that show's final season as well. He wrote the World War II submarine epic, Why We Fight, and earned his place in permanent Whedon-lore for his invention of The Immortal in The Girl in Question. Clearly, he is one of the most inventive and imaginative young writers in the industry. His presence alone is indic ative of a quality work in the offing. Abrams has not left anything to chance, though. He has also hired one of his most trusted co-workers from the early days of Felicity for this project. BOP has confirmed that Matt Reeves is the director on this project. Reeves is the writer/director of the 1996 David Schwimmer comedy, The Pallbearer, and he served as executive producer during the run of Felicity (pre- and post-Keri Russell haircut). Reeves and Abrams created that project together with Reeves even writing and directing the pilot, so their working relationship goes back a decade now. When Goddard came up with the premise for Cloverfield, Reeves was the easy choice to helm the project. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Night Watch/ Day Watch- Seen them?
This confirms it. Yeah, I used to watch it late night on Fridays in Peoria while the parents were at their weekly night out with the aunt and uncle. I had babysit-your-brothers-duty those night. So naturally, I controlled the TV once they were in bed. From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 2:54 PM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Night Watch/ Day Watch- Seen them? I remember it. It used to come on Fridays late at night in Philly James Landrith wrote: Upon experimenting with search terms, I have stumbled upon Hammer House of Horror originally broadcast in Europe in 1980 and repackaged for syndication in the U.S. in the mid-1980s. This may be it. I'd have to watch an episode or two to verify: http://homepages.tesco.net/~dr.phibes/ http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0080231/ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
SPOILERS !!!!Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Saw 28 Weeks on DVD- Plot Holes, Plot Holes ....
S P O I L E R S where should I start. The thing is plagued by holes ~ You have a master plan for evacuating in case of out break and it includes Holding people on a subway platform in the dark with only a thing steel door blocking them from access and no guards. ~. With a disease that is transmitted by contact with blood and saliva and the staffing does not were sterilization clothing until it is verified that the patient is not infected ~. The infected were not cunning in the previous movie or even this one, yet the infected husband was and determined to specifically kill his kids. If he was like the other infected, he would not have been able to get about, because he would not have known how to swipe the cards ~. The infected husband seemed to have a GPS tracking device that enabled him to follow his kids all over the city ~ they saw the kids escape the protected area, yet it took them a long time to catch them by helicopter in London with all those security cameras ~ The husband was an apartment manager, yet had key card access to secured areas ~ I think the minute the doctor discovered that the wife was inflected, she would have called the guards in the section to change how the patient was cared for ` There was only one doctor with no nurses, assistants, lab techs, etc. to care for everyone and do medical research ~ When the soldiers and leaders saw blood spatter on people they came in contact with, they still touched them ~ The section of the city that they occupied was not walled up in case of containment. ~ There were no guards on the perimeter of the city to prevent escape ~ . The doctor saving the kids had no way to communicate to the leaders her intent to save them and why, even though she did have a walkie talkie at first. Then she did not ask the soldier she was with to use his. She indicated that they should sacrifice themselves to save the kids, but she did not arrange for the kids to know that if they got it they would be carriers, not provide them with instruction on what to do and who to contact if she died. She cause the disease to spread around the world. ~ If the infected are guided by instinct, why did the father kill the doctor with the butt of his gun and not bite like he did everyone else There are many more, so small and easy to ignore, like a few listed above, but also a few big ones. What bother you the most? B. Smith wrote: Which holes bugged you the most? When the movie came out I had a few gripes as well. BTW I heartily recommend World War Z and the monthly comic The Walking Dead. Lots of zombie goodness in those. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've never been a big zombie movie fan, but I loved 28 days. I think it will one day be considered a classic. So I was really looking forward to the sequel. Well we finally checked it out last night. It had lots of great elements that reminded me of how Aliens complimented Alien, but they really let me down with the numerous plot holes. and now there is going to be a third installment in Russia. Any thoughts? Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Can't Wait for Cloverfield
is being as bleak as the Mist a bad thing? I meant to ask if anyone saw that film. Was it any good? -- Original message -- From: B. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] I just hope they can keep the intensity and suspense at a high levels throughout the entire movie while dishing up monster movie goodness. I've heard a few spoilerfic rumors and if they are true this movie may be as bleak as The Mist. Have you seen any of the tv spots yet? All I will say is that one of them gives you a better look at the after effects of a monster bite. Yikes. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wanna see an exciting trailer? Then you must check the trailer for Cloverfield, the top-secret monster movie from JJ Abrams (Lost, Alias, MI-3, Star Trek). The monster(s) isn't(aren't) shown, but talk about a suspenseful buildup! Seeing the freakin' Statue of Liberty's head come sailing through the air *all the way from the water* to crash into the street? Awesome. There's also a scene showing the military firing like crazy at something we never see. It reminds me of the great scene in Spieldberg's War of the Worlds when the military attacks the Martians on that hillside and the whole area literally lights up with weapons fire. The Apple site has two trailers. The one labeled trailer is longer and shows more stuff. it's the one you'll see at many other sites. The one labeled teaser gives a slightly different angle. Check 'em out. If you can't see the Apple trailers, try the second link below, which is to a MovieWeb page with lots of videos, including a two second glimpse of the monster (can't see a darn thing, though). Hard to find a lot of stuff on this film, as there's no real officiall movie site, but i included some info from a blogger below the trailers. If nothing else, Abrams knows how to tell an exciting, fast-paced story, and he actually believes in good plotting and acting as well. he also is a fan of old-fashioned monster flicks like Godzilla. So this looks to be a fun ride. The fact that the script has been kept secret, along with any view of the creature, is only heightening the anticipation. I'm looking forward to this movie! Trailers: http://www.apple.com/trailers/paramount/cloverfield/ http://www.movieweb.com/movies/film/53/5153/videos/ *** http://www.boxofficeprophets.com/column/index.cfm?columnID=10118 What is Cloverfield? This is the question that has been debated across North America in the hours since Transformers debuted the teaser to this upcoming 2008 release. Shrouded in mystery since its inception, the plot of Cloverfield is one of the most carefully guarded secrets in Hollywood right now. BOP is generally not in the business of breaking news as it generally leads to more aggravation than it's worth, but for the first time since we unveiled the voice cast of The Incredibles, we are going to make an exception and do so here in order to clear up some of the mystery. Cloverfield is a J.J. Abrams production, so it should not be surprising to hear that a couple of key players from Abrams' television shows are on board. The writer is Drew Goddard. Goddard has been a producer on both Alias and Lost and served as co-executive producer for the latter show's 2007 episodes. Fans of Joss Whedon (and BOP knows there are a ton of you out there since we sometimes double as a Firefly fan site) also know him as a writer for several episodes of Buffy the Vampire Slayer and Angel. Goddard was the principal scribe on Dirty Girls, the episode from Buffy season seven. This episode featured the return of Faith as well as the transition of Nathan Fillion from the recently canceled Firefly to Buffy wherein he portrayed a nefarious, misogynistic man of the cloth. Goddard's work on Angel primarily occurred during that show's final season as well. He wrote the World War II submarine epic, Why We Fight, and earned his place in permanent Whedon-lore for his invention of The Immortal in The Girl in Question. Clearly, he is one of the most inventive and imaginative young writers in the industry. His presence alone is indic ative of a quality work in the offing. Abrams has not left anything to chance, though. He has also hired one of his most trusted co-workers from the early days of Felicity for this project. BOP has confirmed that Matt Reeves is the director on this project. Reeves is the writer/director of the 1996 David Schwimmer comedy, The Pallbearer, and he served as executive producer during the run of Felicity (pre- and post-Keri Russell haircut). Reeves and Abrams created that project together with Reeves even writing and directing the pilot, so their working relationship goes back a decade now. When Goddard came up with the premise for Cloverfield, Reeves was the easy choice to helm the project. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: SPOILERS !!!!Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Saw 28 Weeks on DVD- Plot Holes, Plot Holes ....
How I got through all the planning errors made the greatest military force in the world, was assume that rumsfeld was behind the planning. I guess Brownie handled the civilian planning. I thought of your tactics as well. I also think if they could not have contained it, instead of napalm they would have used a nuclear warhead to be sure to eliminate the global threat. two more. Going back in with a civilian population (including kids) in only six months - I don't think so Where was England's civilian leadership or the businesses who likely drove the move back. The all American move was odd. Especially since Danny Boyle executive produced the movie B. Smith wrote: Looks like we had the same gripes. LOL The military tactics left a lot to be desired as well. Why weren't all escape routes from the Isle of Dogs cutoff in order to isolate the contagion? The Infected couldn't swim so flooding the tunnels and blowing the bridges would have kept an outbreak localized. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: S P O I L E R S where should I start. The thing is plagued by holes ~ You have a master plan for evacuating in case of out break and it includes Holding people on a subway platform in the dark with only a thing steel door blocking them from access and no guards. ~. With a disease that is transmitted by contact with blood and saliva and the staffing does not were sterilization clothing until it is verified that the patient is not infected ~. The infected were not cunning in the previous movie or even this one, yet the infected husband was and determined to specifically kill his kids. If he was like the other infected, he would not have been able to get about, because he would not have known how to swipe the cards ~. The infected husband seemed to have a GPS tracking device that enabled him to follow his kids all over the city ~ they saw the kids escape the protected area, yet it took them a long time to catch them by helicopter in London with all those security cameras ~ The husband was an apartment manager, yet had key card access to secured areas ~ I think the minute the doctor discovered that the wife was inflected, she would have called the guards in the section to change how the patient was cared for ` There was only one doctor with no nurses, assistants, lab techs, etc. to care for everyone and do medical research ~ When the soldiers and leaders saw blood spatter on people they came in contact with, they still touched them ~ The section of the city that they occupied was not walled up in case of containment. ~ There were no guards on the perimeter of the city to prevent escape ~ . The doctor saving the kids had no way to communicate to the leaders her intent to save them and why, even though she did have a walkie talkie at first. Then she did not ask the soldier she was with to use his. She indicated that they should sacrifice themselves to save the kids, but she did not arrange for the kids to know that if they got it they would be carriers, not provide them with instruction on what to do and who to contact if she died. She cause the disease to spread around the world. ~ If the infected are guided by instinct, why did the father kill the doctor with the butt of his gun and not bite like he did everyone else There are many more, so small and easy to ignore, like a few listed above, but also a few big ones. What bother you the most? B. Smith wrote: Which holes bugged you the most? When the movie came out I had a few gripes as well. BTW I heartily recommend World War Z and the monthly comic The Walking Dead. Lots of zombie goodness in those. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) tdlists@ wrote: I've never been a big zombie movie fan, but I loved 28 days. I think it will one day be considered a classic. So I was really looking forward to the sequel. Well we finally checked it out last night. It had lots of great elements that reminded me of how Aliens complimented Alien, but they really let me down with the numerous plot holes. and now there is going to be a third installment in Russia. Any thoughts? Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Re: [scifinoir2] OT: Bhutto Apparently Killed in Attack
If Mrs. Bhutto's life were a screenplay, it would have been rejected by Hollywood producers as being fantasy. I will miss this beautiful leading character on the world's stage. The violent end to Mrs. Bhutto's life may be the violent beginning of the decline of Al Qaida and militant Islam. --- Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm still numb at the realization. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I admired this person greatly. When I first heard about her I was curios. How can a woman be a leader in a Muslim country? I know that Pakistan is moderate but I was still curious. I came to admired because she was the complete package. She was intelligent, driven, beautiful etc. She did not go through the motions of being a leader. When women leaders were not common, she did not run as a woman but as a leader. She could be a woman but also be to a tough task master. I am sure that the other opposition leader could be involved too. He could be far more favorable to the army. Who knows. This is very depressing news. **See AOL's top rated recipes (http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop000304) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Bill Liggins Author of WARNING, a Sci-Fi Novel http://www.authorsden.com/visit/author.asp?authorid=4905 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Can't Wait for Cloverfield
Did you like Mist? I read the ending to the movie and the book, (I knew it would be ages before I got to see it) and I've got to say the ending movie is has got to be one of the most bleak in movie history. What are your thoughts on how he choose to deviate from the book and dramatically change the ending? B. Smith wrote: I just hope they can keep the intensity and suspense at a high levels throughout the entire movie while dishing up monster movie goodness. I've heard a few spoilerfic rumors and if they are true this movie may be as bleak as The Mist. Have you seen any of the tv spots yet? All I will say is that one of them gives you a better look at the after effects of a monster bite. Yikes. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wanna see an exciting trailer? Then you must check the trailer for Cloverfield, the top-secret monster movie from JJ Abrams (Lost, Alias, MI-3, Star Trek). The monster(s) isn't(aren't) shown, but talk about a suspenseful buildup! Seeing the freakin' Statue of Liberty's head come sailing through the air *all the way from the water* to crash into the street? Awesome. There's also a scene showing the military firing like crazy at something we never see. It reminds me of the great scene in Spieldberg's War of the Worlds when the military attacks the Martians on that hillside and the whole area literally lights up with weapons fire. The Apple site has two trailers. The one labeled trailer is longer and shows more stuff. it's the one you'll see at many other sites. The one labeled teaser gives a slightly different angle. Check 'em out. If you can't see the Apple trailers, try the second link below, which is to a MovieWeb page with lots of videos, including a two second glimpse of the monster (can't see a darn thing, though). Hard to find a lot of stuff on this film, as there's no real officiall movie site, but i included some info from a blogger below the trailers. If nothing else, Abrams knows how to tell an exciting, fast-paced story, and he actually believes in good plotting and acting as well. he also is a fan of old-fashioned monster flicks like Godzilla. So this looks to be a fun ride. The fact that the script has been kept secret, along with any view of the creature, is only heightening the anticipation. I'm looking forward to this movie! Trailers: http://www.apple.com/trailers/paramount/cloverfield/ http://www.movieweb.com/movies/film/53/5153/videos/ *** http://www.boxofficeprophets.com/column/index.cfm?columnID=10118 What is Cloverfield? This is the question that has been debated across North America in the hours since Transformers debuted the teaser to this upcoming 2008 release. Shrouded in mystery since its inception, the plot of Cloverfield is one of the most carefully guarded secrets in Hollywood right now. BOP is generally not in the business of breaking news as it generally leads to more aggravation than it's worth, but for the first time since we unveiled the voice cast of The Incredibles, we are going to make an exception and do so here in order to clear up some of the mystery. Cloverfield is a J.J. Abrams production, so it should not be surprising to hear that a couple of key players from Abrams' television shows are on board. The writer is Drew Goddard. Goddard has been a producer on both Alias and Lost and served as co-executive producer for the latter show's 2007 episodes. Fans of Joss Whedon (and BOP knows there are a ton of you out there since we sometimes double as a Firefly fan site) also know him as a writer for several episodes of Buffy the Vampire Slayer and Angel. Goddard was the principal scribe on Dirty Girls, the episode from Buffy season seven. This episode featured the return of Faith as well as the transition of Nathan Fillion from the recently canceled Firefly to Buffy wherein he portrayed a nefarious, misogynistic man of the cloth. Goddard's work on Angel primarily occurred during that show's final season as well. He wrote the World War II submarine epic, Why We Fight, and earned his place in permanent Whedon-lore for his invention of The Immortal in The Girl in Question. Clearly, he is one of the most inventive and imaginative young writers in the industry. His presence alone is indic ative of a quality work in the offing. Abrams has not left anything to chance, though. He has also hired one of his most trusted co-workers from the early days of Felicity for this project. BOP has confirmed that Matt Reeves is the director on this project. Reeves is the writer/director of the 1996 David Schwimmer comedy, The Pallbearer, and he served as executive producer during the run of Felicity (pre- and post-Keri Russell haircut). Reeves and Abrams created that project together with
Re: [scifinoir2] Can't Wait for Cloverfield
maybe he is returning to his roots as a master storyteller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wanna see an exciting trailer? Then you must check the trailer for Cloverfield, the top-secret monster movie from JJ Abrams (Lost, Alias, MI-3, Star Trek). The monster(s) isn't(aren't) shown, but talk about a suspenseful buildup! Seeing the freakin' Statue of Liberty's head come sailing through the air *all the way from the water* to crash into the street? Awesome. There's also a scene showing the military firing like crazy at something we never see. It reminds me of the great scene in Spieldberg's War of the Worlds when the military attacks the Martians on that hillside and the whole area literally lights up with weapons fire. The Apple site has two trailers. The one labeled trailer is longer and shows more stuff. it's the one you'll see at many other sites. The one labeled teaser gives a slightly different angle. Check 'em out. If you can't see the Apple trailers, try the second link below, which is to a MovieWeb page with lots of videos, including a two second glimpse of the monster (can't see a darn thing, though). Hard to find a lot of stuff on this film, as there's no real officiall movie site, but i included some info from a blogger below the trailers. If nothing else, Abrams knows how to tell an exciting, fast-paced story, and he actually believes in good plotting and acting as well. he also is a fan of old-fashioned monster flicks like Godzilla. So this looks to be a fun ride. The fact that the script has been kept secret, along with any view of the creature, is only heightening the anticipation. I'm looking forward to this movie! Trailers: http://www.apple.com/trailers/paramount/cloverfield/ http://www.movieweb.com/movies/film/53/5153/videos/ *** http://www.boxofficeprophets.com/column/index.cfm?columnID=10118 What is Cloverfield? This is the question that has been debated across North America in the hours since Transformers debuted the teaser to this upcoming 2008 release. Shrouded in mystery since its inception, the plot of Cloverfield is one of the most carefully guarded secrets in Hollywood right now. BOP is generally not in the business of breaking news as it generally leads to more aggravation than it's worth, but for the first time since we unveiled the voice cast of The Incredibles, we are going to make an exception and do so here in order to clear up some of the mystery. Cloverfield is a J.J. Abrams production, so it should not be surprising to hear that a couple of key players from Abrams' television shows are on board. The writer is Drew Goddard. Goddard has been a producer on both Alias and Lost and served as co-executive producer for the latter show's 2007 episodes. Fans of Joss Whedon (and BOP knows there are a ton of you out there since we sometimes double as a Firefly fan site) also know him as a writer for several episodes of Buffy the Vampire Slayer and Angel. Goddard was the principal scribe on Dirty Girls, the episode from Buffy season seven. This episode featured the return of Faith as well as the transition of Nathan Fillion from the recently canceled Firefly to Buffy wherein he portrayed a nefarious, misogynistic man of the cloth. Goddard's work on Angel primarily occurred during that show's final season as well. He wrote the World War II submarine epic, Why We Fight, and earned his place in permanent Whedon-lore for his invention of The Immortal in The Girl in Question. Clearly, he is one of the most inventive and imaginative young writers in the industry. His presence alone is indic ative of a quality work in the offing. Abrams has not left anything to chance, though. He has also hired one of his most trusted co-workers from the early days of Felicity for this project. BOP has confirmed that Matt Reeves is the director on this project. Reeves is the writer/director of the 1996 David Schwimmer comedy, The Pallbearer, and he served as executive producer during the run of Felicity (pre- and post-Keri Russell haircut). Reeves and Abrams created that project together with Reeves even writing and directing the pilot, so their working relationship goes back a decade now. When Goddard came up with the premise for Cloverfield, Reeves was the easy choice to helm the project. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo!
Re: [scifinoir2] Can't Wait for Cloverfield
found some pix of the monster http://www.massiveblack.com/stabby/stabbysidefinal.jpg http://www.massiveblack.com/stabby/paint16.jpg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wanna see an exciting trailer? Then you must check the trailer for Cloverfield, the top-secret monster movie from JJ Abrams (Lost, Alias, MI-3, Star Trek). The monster(s) isn't(aren't) shown, but talk about a suspenseful buildup! Seeing the freakin' Statue of Liberty's head come sailing through the air *all the way from the water* to crash into the street? Awesome. There's also a scene showing the military firing like crazy at something we never see. It reminds me of the great scene in Spieldberg's War of the Worlds when the military attacks the Martians on that hillside and the whole area literally lights up with weapons fire. The Apple site has two trailers. The one labeled trailer is longer and shows more stuff. it's the one you'll see at many other sites. The one labeled teaser gives a slightly different angle. Check 'em out. If you can't see the Apple trailers, try the second link below, which is to a MovieWeb page with lots of videos, including a two second glimpse of the monster (can't see a darn thing, though). Hard to find a lot of stuff on this film, as there's no real officiall movie site, but i included some info from a blogger below the trailers. If nothing else, Abrams knows how to tell an exciting, fast-paced story, and he actually believes in good plotting and acting as well. he also is a fan of old-fashioned monster flicks like Godzilla. So this looks to be a fun ride. The fact that the script has been kept secret, along with any view of the creature, is only heightening the anticipation. I'm looking forward to this movie! Trailers: http://www.apple.com/trailers/paramount/cloverfield/ http://www.movieweb.com/movies/film/53/5153/videos/ *** http://www.boxofficeprophets.com/column/index.cfm?columnID=10118 What is Cloverfield? This is the question that has been debated across North America in the hours since Transformers debuted the teaser to this upcoming 2008 release. Shrouded in mystery since its inception, the plot of Cloverfield is one of the most carefully guarded secrets in Hollywood right now. BOP is generally not in the business of breaking news as it generally leads to more aggravation than it's worth, but for the first time since we unveiled the voice cast of The Incredibles, we are going to make an exception and do so here in order to clear up some of the mystery. Cloverfield is a J.J. Abrams production, so it should not be surprising to hear that a couple of key players from Abrams' television shows are on board. The writer is Drew Goddard. Goddard has been a producer on both Alias and Lost and served as co-executive producer for the latter show's 2007 episodes. Fans of Joss Whedon (and BOP knows there are a ton of you out there since we sometimes double as a Firefly fan site) also know him as a writer for several episodes of Buffy the Vampire Slayer and Angel. Goddard was the principal scribe on Dirty Girls, the episode from Buffy season seven. This episode featured the return of Faith as well as the transition of Nathan Fillion from the recently canceled Firefly to Buffy wherein he portrayed a nefarious, misogynistic man of the cloth. Goddard's work on Angel primarily occurred during that show's final season as well. He wrote the World War II submarine epic, Why We Fight, and earned his place in permanent Whedon-lore for his invention of The Immortal in The Girl in Question. Clearly, he is one of the most inventive and imaginative young writers in the industry. His presence alone is indic ative of a quality work in the offing. Abrams has not left anything to chance, though. He has also hired one of his most trusted co-workers from the early days of Felicity for this project. BOP has confirmed that Matt Reeves is the director on this project. Reeves is the writer/director of the 1996 David Schwimmer comedy, The Pallbearer, and he served as executive producer during the run of Felicity (pre- and post-Keri Russell haircut). Reeves and Abrams created that project together with Reeves even writing and directing the pilot, so their working relationship goes back a decade now. When Goddard came up with the premise for Cloverfield, Reeves was the easy choice to helm the project. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from
Re: [scifinoir2] Can't Wait for Cloverfield
Sort of a Cthtulu look to it. Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: found some pix of the monster http://www.massiveblack.com/stabby/stabbysidefinal.jpg http://www.massiveblack.com/stabby/paint16.jpg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wanna see an exciting trailer? Then you must check the trailer for Cloverfield, the top-secret monster movie from JJ Abrams (Lost, Alias, MI-3, Star Trek). The monster(s) isn't(aren't) shown, but talk about a suspenseful buildup! Seeing the freakin' Statue of Liberty's head come sailing through the air *all the way from the water* to crash into the street? Awesome. There's also a scene showing the military firing like crazy at something we never see. It reminds me of the great scene in Spieldberg's War of the Worlds when the military attacks the Martians on that hillside and the whole area literally lights up with weapons fire. The Apple site has two trailers. The one labeled trailer is longer and shows more stuff. it's the one you'll see at many other sites. The one labeled teaser gives a slightly different angle. Check 'em out. If you can't see the Apple trailers, try the second link below, which is to a MovieWeb page with lots of videos, including a two second glimpse of the monster (can't see a darn thing, though). Hard to find a lot of stuff on this film, as there's no real officiall movie site, but i included some info from a blogger below the trailers. If nothing else, Abrams knows how to tell an exciting, fast-paced story, and he actually believes in good plotting and acting as well. he also is a fan of old-fashioned monster flicks like Godzilla. So this looks to be a fun ride. The fact that the script has been kept secret, along with any view of the creature, is only heightening the anticipation. I'm looking forward to this movie! Trailers: http://www.apple.com/trailers/paramount/cloverfield/ http://www.movieweb.com/movies/film/53/5153/videos/ *** http://www.boxofficeprophets.com/column/index.cfm?columnID=10118 What is Cloverfield? This is the question that has been debated across North America in the hours since Transformers debuted the teaser to this upcoming 2008 release. Shrouded in mystery since its inception, the plot of Cloverfield is one of the most carefully guarded secrets in Hollywood right now. BOP is generally not in the business of breaking news as it generally leads to more aggravation than it's worth, but for the first time since we unveiled the voice cast of The Incredibles, we are going to make an exception and do so here in order to clear up some of the mystery. Cloverfield is a J.J. Abrams production, so it should not be surprising to hear that a couple of key players from Abrams' television shows are on board. The writer is Drew Goddard. Goddard has been a producer on both Alias and Lost and served as co-executive producer for the latter show's 2007 episodes. Fans of Joss Whedon (and BOP knows there are a ton of you out there since we sometimes double as a Firefly fan site) also know him as a writer for several episodes of Buffy the Vampire Slayer and Angel. Goddard was the principal scribe on Dirty Girls, the episode from Buffy season seven. This episode featured the return of Faith as well as the transition of Nathan Fillion from the recently canceled Firefly to Buffy wherein he portrayed a nefarious, misogynistic man of the cloth. Goddard's work on Angel primarily occurred during that show's final season as well. He wrote the World War II submarine epic, Why We Fight, and earned his place in permanent Whedon-lore for his invention of The Immortal in The Girl in Question. Clearly, he is one of the most inventive and imaginative young writers in the industry. His presence alone is indic ative of a quality work in the offing. Abrams has not left anything to chance, though. He has also hired one of his most trusted co-workers from the early days of Felicity for this project. BOP has confirmed that Matt Reeves is the director on this project. Reeves is the writer/director of the 1996 David Schwimmer comedy, The Pallbearer, and he served as executive producer during the run of Felicity (pre- and post-Keri Russell haircut). Reeves and Abrams created that project together with Reeves even writing and directing the pilot, so their working relationship goes back a decade now. When Goddard came up with the premise for Cloverfield, Reeves was the easy choice to helm the project. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. [Non-text portions of
Re: [scifinoir2] Can't Wait for Cloverfield
try researching Slusho and you'll find out a lot more of what Cloverfield is all about. There is a lot going on with the movie and there are several fake MySpace pages which info on the movie it all ties into an elaborate online game millions are playing right in online and offline On Dec 27, 2007 9:47 PM, Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: found some pix of the monster http://www.massiveblack.com/stabby/stabbysidefinal.jpg http://www.massiveblack.com/stabby/paint16.jpg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wanna see an exciting trailer? Then you must check the trailer for Cloverfield, the top-secret monster movie from JJ Abrams (Lost, Alias, MI-3, Star Trek). The monster(s) isn't(aren't) shown, but talk about a suspenseful buildup! Seeing the freakin' Statue of Liberty's head come sailing through the air *all the way from the water* to crash into the street? Awesome. There's also a scene showing the military firing like crazy at something we never see. It reminds me of the great scene in Spieldberg's War of the Worlds when the military attacks the Martians on that hillside and the whole area literally lights up with weapons fire. The Apple site has two trailers. The one labeled trailer is longer and shows more stuff. it's the one you'll see at many other sites. The one labeled teaser gives a slightly different angle. Check 'em out. If you can't see the Apple trailers, try the second link below, which is to a MovieWeb page with lots of videos, including a two second glimpse of the monster (can't see a darn thing, though). Hard to find a lot of stuff on this film, as there's no real officiall movie site, but i included some info from a blogger below the trailers. If nothing else, Abrams knows how to tell an exciting, fast-paced story, and he actually believes in good plotting and acting as well. he also is a fan of old-fashioned monster flicks like Godzilla. So this looks to be a fun ride. The fact that the script has been kept secret, along with any view of the creature, is only heightening the anticipation. I'm looking forward to this movie! Trailers: http://www.apple.com/trailers/paramount/cloverfield/ http://www.movieweb.com/movies/film/53/5153/videos/ *** http://www.boxofficeprophets.com/column/index.cfm?columnID=10118 What is Cloverfield? This is the question that has been debated across North America in the hours since Transformers debuted the teaser to this upcoming 2008 release. Shrouded in mystery since its inception, the plot of Cloverfield is one of the most carefully guarded secrets in Hollywood right now. BOP is generally not in the business of breaking news as it generally leads to more aggravation than it's worth, but for the first time since we unveiled the voice cast of The Incredibles, we are going to make an exception and do so here in order to clear up some of the mystery. Cloverfield is a J.J. Abrams production, so it should not be surprising to hear that a couple of key players from Abrams' television shows are on board. The writer is Drew Goddard. Goddard has been a producer on both Alias and Lost and served as co-executive producer for the latter show's 2007 episodes. Fans of Joss Whedon (and BOP knows there are a ton of you out there since we sometimes double as a Firefly fan site) also know him as a writer for several episodes of Buffy the Vampire Slayer and Angel. Goddard was the principal scribe on Dirty Girls, the episode from Buffy season seven. This episode featured the return of Faith as well as the transition of Nathan Fillion from the recently canceled Firefly to Buffy wherein he portrayed a nefarious, misogynistic man of the cloth. Goddard's work on Angel primarily occurred during that show's final season as well. He wrote the World War II submarine epic, Why We Fight, and earned his place in permanent Whedon-lore for his invention of The Immortal in The Girl in Question. Clearly, he is one of the most inventive and imaginative young writers in the industry. His presence alone is indic ative of a quality work in the offing. Abrams has not left anything to chance, though. He has also hired one of his most trusted co-workers from the early days of Felicity for this project. BOP has confirmed that Matt Reeves is the director on this project. Reeves is the writer/director of the 1996 David Schwimmer comedy, The Pallbearer, and he served as executive producer during the run of Felicity (pre- and post-Keri Russell haircut). Reeves and Abrams created that project together with Reeves even writing and directing the pilot, so their working relationship goes back a decade now. When Goddard came up with the premise for Cloverfield, Reeves was the easy choice to helm the project. [Non-text portions of this
Re: [scifinoir2] National Treasure 2 Rules Box Office - :(
Thanks, though, early on, I did have my doubts. Nothing that anyone here did, fear not. I'm just a mass of insecurities wrapped in a veneer of insanity. Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well ya fit in here fine! Martin wrote: Forgot to add on the literal duck out of water premise, which I sympathize with daily. I've always felt out of place, even among the Technonerdati. Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wow! Thank you for making yourself vulnerable and opening up. Now the question you had to anticipate... why? Martin wrote: Tracey, to put you at ease, I'm going to reveal one of my deepest, darkest movie secrets. I love Howard the Duck. Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Keith I know you are disappointed in me, but for mindless fluff sitting in the comfort of my home, I liked the first one. :( Martin wrote: But...but...I *wanna* throw away my money! Mindless stupididty is my milieu! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I really hope none of you fine people contributed any ducats to making National Treasure 2 the number one movie over the Christmas weekend. I tried to watch the first movie a couple of years ago, on a Sunday night, as background noise while I cleaned up. I turned it off with 45 minutes to go. Silly concepts, preposterous occurrences, autopilot acting by Cage and Voight (just show me the money!!). Not fun or clever or engaging at all. Despite what some think of me, i'm not a movie snob, don't have a thing against low brow humour (saw Knocked Up recently and loved it) or mindless action flicks. Im the guy who will watch The Warriors every single time it airs (much to my wife's consternation!) And Face Off? Pure cinematic pleasure of adrenalin, over-the-top acting, and things that go boom!. Love that flick. But National Treasure sucked, and I hear the sequel is even dumber in plot. Mount Rushmore built just to hide a city of gold. A secret book passed down from one President to another that details, among other things, the truth of what's kept in Area 51? Brotherrr! Please tell me none of you watched it? National Treasure sleighs Christmas box office Tue Dec 25, 2:27 PM ET Nicolas Cage's adventure sequel National Treasure: Book of Secrets raced to $65 million during its first five days of release across North America, distributor Walt Disney Pictures said on Tuesday. The tally consists of actual sales for the four days since the film opened last Friday, and a Christmas day estimate. Final sales data will be issued on Wednesday. Through December 24, the film had also earned $27.5 million in 17 international markets, mostly in Asia. The critically maligned sequel to the 2004 smash National Treasure stars Cage as a treasure hunter who flies around the world trying to solve an ancient puzzle related to Lincoln's assassination. Will Smith's sci-fi thriller I Am Legend was No. 2 with five-day sales of $47.5 million, taking its 12-day haul to $150.8 million, said Warner Bros. Pictures. Because of the holiday, data for many films were incomplete. Twentieth Century Fox reported a four-day tally of $32.8 million for its surprise hit Alvin and the Chipmunks, saying it was impossible to estimate Christmas Day sales. After 11 days, the kids film has earned $88.7 million. The fact-based political comedy Charlie Wilson's War earned $14.75 million, and the Johnny Depp musical Sweeney Todd $12.75 million, both after five days. Their respective studios, Universal Pictures and DreamWorks Pictures, warned that the Christmas Day components were rough guesses. The box office jury is still out on Charlie Wilson, a high-profile vehicle starring Tom Hanks and Julia Roberts, which is playing in twice as many theaters as Sweeney Todd, which DreamWorks co-produced with Warner Bros. Further down the rankings, P.S. I Love You had earned $9.1 million in its first five days. After a low-key opening weekend, Warner Bros. said it hoped more women would turn out in force for the Hilary Swank tearjerker now that Christmas-related chores are behind them. The musical spoof Walk Hard: The Dewey Cox Story reported a four-day haul of $4.7 million. Distributor Columbia Pictures did not have a Christmas Day estimate for the box office disappointment. Midfield rankings will change when final data are issued Wednesday because they will include sales for three Christmas Day releases: the action sequel Alien vs. Predator: Requiem, the Denzel Washington drama The Great Debaters, and the family fantasy The Water Horse: Legend of the Deep. Walt Disney Pictures is a unit of Walt Disney Co. Warner Bros. is a unit of Time Warner Inc.
Re: World War Z Re: [scifinoir2] Saw 28 Weeks on DVD- Plot Holes, Plot Holes ....
Thank you, Tracey. And I am *double sold* on this, now. Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Found it, J. Michael Straczynski is currently writing the script http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0816711/ Ten years after the human victory over the world wide Zombie epidemic, referred to as World War Z, Max Brooks scours the world collecting the stories and experiences of those who have survived the conflict that almost eradicated humanity. You can read a script review at: http://www.iesb.net/index.php?option=com_contenttask=viewid=3947Itemid=99 Martin wrote: I'm suprised that no one's optioned World War Z yet. Or am I behind the curve? Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) wrote: Now they are doing Russia. I hate it. With a little effort with the plot, it could have been a good plot. It seems as if screen writers are getting increasingly sloppy with plot holes these days Martin wrote: Yahoo! Groups Links There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [scifinoir2] Can't Wait for Cloverfield
yeah, though i still wonder, why is Abrams so fascinated with young people. all the main stars in Cloverfield seem to be in their early to mid-20s. Even the little blurb I read describes it as Five young New Yorkers. Hopefully, like with Lost, there'll be some old fogies my age who get meaty roles! -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] maybe he is returning to his roots as a master storyteller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wanna see an exciting trailer? Then you must check the trailer for Cloverfield, the top-secret monster movie from JJ Abrams (Lost, Alias, MI-3, Star Trek). The monster(s) isn't(aren't) shown, but talk about a suspenseful buildup! Seeing the freakin' Statue of Liberty's head come sailing through the air *all the way from the water* to crash into the street? Awesome. There's also a scene showing the military firing like crazy at something we never see. It reminds me of the great scene in Spieldberg's War of the Worlds when the military attacks the Martians on that hillside and the whole area literally lights up with weapons fire. The Apple site has two trailers. The one labeled trailer is longer and shows more stuff. it's the one you'll see at many other sites. The one labeled teaser gives a slightly different angle. Check 'em out. If you can't see the Apple trailers, try the second link below, which is to a MovieWeb page with lots of videos, including a two second glimpse of the monster (can't see a darn thing, though). Hard to find a lot of stuff on this film, as there's no real officiall movie site, but i included some info from a blogger below the trailers. If nothing else, Abrams knows how to tell an exciting, fast-paced story, and he actually believes in good plotting and acting as well. he also is a fan of old-fashioned monster flicks like Godzilla. So this looks to be a fun ride. The fact that the script has been kept secret, along with any view of the creature, is only heightening the anticipation. I'm looking forward to this movie! Trailers: http://www.apple.com/trailers/paramount/cloverfield/ http://www.movieweb.com/movies/film/53/5153/videos/ *** http://www.boxofficeprophets.com/column/index.cfm?columnID=10118 What is Cloverfield? This is the question that has been debated across North America in the hours since Transformers debuted the teaser to this upcoming 2008 release. Shrouded in mystery since its inception, the plot of Cloverfield is one of the most carefully guarded secrets in Hollywood right now. BOP is generally not in the business of breaking news as it generally leads to more aggravation than it's worth, but for the first time since we unveiled the voice cast of The Incredibles, we are going to make an exception and do so here in order to clear up some of the mystery. Cloverfield is a J.J. Abrams production, so it should not be surprising to hear that a couple of key players from Abrams' television shows are on board. The writer is Drew Goddard. Goddard has been a producer on both Alias and Lost and served as co-executive producer for the latter show's 2007 episodes. Fans of Joss Whedon (and BOP knows there are a ton of you out there since we sometimes double as a Firefly fan site) also know him as a writer for several episodes of Buffy the Vampire Slayer and Angel. Goddard was the principal scribe on Dirty Girls, the episode from Buffy season seven. This episode featured the return of Faith as well as the transition of Nathan Fillion from the recently canceled Firefly to Buffy wherein he portrayed a nefarious, misogynistic man of the cloth. Goddard's work on Angel primarily occurred during that show's final season as well. He wrote the World War II submarine epic, Why We Fight, and earned his place in permanent Whedon-lore for his invention of The Immortal in The Girl in Question. Clearly, he is one of the most inventive and imaginative young writers in the industry. His presence alone is indic ative of a quality work in the offing. Abrams has not left anything to chance, though. He has also hired one of his most trusted co-workers from the early days of Felicity for this project. BOP has confirmed that Matt Reeves is the director on this project. Reeves is the writer/director of the 1996 David Schwimmer comedy, The Pallbearer, and he served as executive producer during the run of Felicity (pre- and post-Keri Russell haircut). Reeves and Abrams created that project together with Reeves even writing and directing the pilot, so their working relationship goes back a decade now. When Goddard came up with the premise for Cloverfield, Reeves was the easy choice to helm the project. [Non-text portions of this message have been
Re: [scifinoir2] Esquire's Get Upclose on ThunderCat: The Movie
Indeed, Mike. And, to lighten the pall resulting from this, might I suggest the alternative casting of Snoop Dogg as Lion-O? Martin (Thundercats- HO) Mike Street [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.esquire.com/the-side/thundercats0707?src=semmag=esqdom=gogad=g2371ad_grp=0161kw=ists_kwcid=ContentNetwork|1207432895 God save us! -- -- Blogs: The Greasy Guide http://greasyguide.com Your Online Destination for Urban Information Coming Soon Street Sweet NYC http://www.streetsweetnyc.com Get your fix on cupcake bliss. There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country - Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [scifinoir2] Can't Wait for Cloverfield
ain't gonna happen. It seems to me, he is keeping to the studio demographic formula applied in Star Trek. Maybe some of the supporting characters will be a little older. Let's face it. Most of us over 28 are not going to the theatre every week, where the initial bulk of a studios money is made. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yeah, though i still wonder, why is Abrams so fascinated with young people. all the main stars in Cloverfield seem to be in their early to mid-20s. Even the little blurb I read describes it as Five young New Yorkers. Hopefully, like with Lost, there'll be some old fogies my age who get meaty roles! -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] maybe he is returning to his roots as a master storyteller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wanna see an exciting trailer? Then you must check the trailer for Cloverfield, the top-secret monster movie from JJ Abrams (Lost, Alias, MI-3, Star Trek). The monster(s) isn't(aren't) shown, but talk about a suspenseful buildup! Seeing the freakin' Statue of Liberty's head come sailing through the air *all the way from the water* to crash into the street? Awesome. There's also a scene showing the military firing like crazy at something we never see. It reminds me of the great scene in Spieldberg's War of the Worlds when the military attacks the Martians on that hillside and the whole area literally lights up with weapons fire. The Apple site has two trailers. The one labeled trailer is longer and shows more stuff. it's the one you'll see at many other sites. The one labeled teaser gives a slightly different angle. Check 'em out. If you can't see the Apple trailers, try the second link below, which is to a MovieWeb page with lots of videos, including a two second glimpse of the monster (can't see a darn thing, though). Hard to find a lot of stuff on this film, as there's no real officiall movie site, but i included some info from a blogger below the trailers. If nothing else, Abrams knows how to tell an exciting, fast-paced story, and he actually believes in good plotting and acting as well. he also is a fan of old-fashioned monster flicks like Godzilla. So this looks to be a fun ride. The fact that the script has been kept secret, along with any view of the creature, is only heightening the anticipation. I'm looking forward to this movie! Trailers: http://www.apple.com/trailers/paramount/cloverfield/ http://www.movieweb.com/movies/film/53/5153/videos/ *** http://www.boxofficeprophets.com/column/index.cfm?columnID=10118 What is Cloverfield? This is the question that has been debated across North America in the hours since Transformers debuted the teaser to this upcoming 2008 release. Shrouded in mystery since its inception, the plot of Cloverfield is one of the most carefully guarded secrets in Hollywood right now. BOP is generally not in the business of breaking news as it generally leads to more aggravation than it's worth, but for the first time since we unveiled the voice cast of The Incredibles, we are going to make an exception and do so here in order to clear up some of the mystery. Cloverfield is a J.J. Abrams production, so it should not be surprising to hear that a couple of key players from Abrams' television shows are on board. The writer is Drew Goddard. Goddard has been a producer on both Alias and Lost and served as co-executive producer for the latter show's 2007 episodes. Fans of Joss Whedon (and BOP knows there are a ton of you out there since we sometimes double as a Firefly fan site) also know him as a writer for several episodes of Buffy the Vampire Slayer and Angel. Goddard was the principal scribe on Dirty Girls, the episode from Buffy season seven. This episode featured the return of Faith as well as the transition of Nathan Fillion from the recently canceled Firefly to Buffy wherein he portrayed a nefarious, misogynistic man of the cloth. Goddard's work on Angel primarily occurred during that show's final season as well. He wrote the World War II submarine epic, Why We Fight, and earned his place in permanent Whedon-lore for his invention of The Immortal in The Girl in Question. Clearly, he is one of the most inventive and imaginative young writers in the industry. His presence alone is indic ative of a quality work in the offing. Abrams has not left anything to chance, though. He has also hired one of his most trusted co-workers from the early days of Felicity for this project. BOP has confirmed that Matt Reeves is the director on this project. Reeves is the writer/director of the 1996 David Schwimmer comedy, The Pallbearer, and he served as
RE: [scifinoir2] National Treasure 2 Rules Box Office - :(
Do you still, Howard? I mean Martin? It seems to me that you'd be the one who is comfortable in any crowd. Are you comfortable but feeling different from others? I revel in being that way...now...LOL! Maurice Jennings Have you or someone you know been threatened with foreclosure? KEEP your home and Stop Foreclosure in its Tracks! Get a Free, No Obligation Evaluation = http://www.legacyhomesavers.com http://www.legacyhomesavers.com/ _ From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Martin Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 1:00 PM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] National Treasure 2 Rules Box Office - :( Forgot to add on the literal duck out of water premise, which I sympathize with daily. I've always felt out of place, even among the Technonerdati. Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com aladvantage.com wrote: Wow! Thank you for making yourself vulnerable and opening up. Now the question you had to anticipate... why? Martin wrote: Tracey, to put you at ease, I'm going to reveal one of my deepest, darkest movie secrets. I love Howard the Duck. Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com aladvantage.com wrote: Keith I know you are disappointed in me, but for mindless fluff sitting in the comfort of my home, I liked the first one. :( Martin wrote: But...but...I *wanna* throw away my money! Mindless stupididty is my milieu! KeithBJohnson@ mailto:KeithBJohnson%40comcast.net comcast.net wrote: I really hope none of you fine people contributed any ducats to making National Treasure 2 the number one movie over the Christmas weekend. I tried to watch the first movie a couple of years ago, on a Sunday night, as background noise while I cleaned up. I turned it off with 45 minutes to go. Silly concepts, preposterous occurrences, autopilot acting by Cage and Voight (just show me the money!!). Not fun or clever or engaging at all. Despite what some think of me, i'm not a movie snob, don't have a thing against low brow humour (saw Knocked Up recently and loved it) or mindless action flicks. Im the guy who will watch The Warriors every single time it airs (much to my wife's consternation!) And Face Off? Pure cinematic pleasure of adrenalin, over-the-top acting, and things that go boom!. Love that flick. But National Treasure sucked, and I hear the sequel is even dumber in plot. Mount Rushmore built just to hide a city of gold. A secret book passed down from one President to another that details, among other things, the truth of what's kept in Area 51? Brotherrr! Please tell me none of you watched it? National Treasure sleighs Christmas box office Tue Dec 25, 2:27 PM ET Nicolas Cage's adventure sequel National Treasure: Book of Secrets raced to $65 million during its first five days of release across North America, distributor Walt Disney Pictures said on Tuesday. The tally consists of actual sales for the four days since the film opened last Friday, and a Christmas day estimate. Final sales data will be issued on Wednesday. Through December 24, the film had also earned $27.5 million in 17 international markets, mostly in Asia. The critically maligned sequel to the 2004 smash National Treasure stars Cage as a treasure hunter who flies around the world trying to solve an ancient puzzle related to Lincoln's assassination. Will Smith's sci-fi thriller I Am Legend was No. 2 with five-day sales of $47.5 million, taking its 12-day haul to $150.8 million, said Warner Bros. Pictures. Because of the holiday, data for many films were incomplete. Twentieth Century Fox reported a four-day tally of $32.8 million for its surprise hit Alvin and the Chipmunks, saying it was impossible to estimate Christmas Day sales. After 11 days, the kids film has earned $88.7 million. The fact-based political comedy Charlie Wilson's War earned $14.75 million, and the Johnny Depp musical Sweeney Todd $12.75 million, both after five days. Their respective studios, Universal Pictures and DreamWorks Pictures, warned that the Christmas Day components were rough guesses. The box office jury is still out on Charlie Wilson, a high-profile vehicle starring Tom Hanks and Julia Roberts, which is playing in twice as many theaters as Sweeney Todd, which DreamWorks co-produced with Warner Bros. Further down the rankings, P.S. I Love You had earned $9.1 million in its first five days. After a low-key opening weekend, Warner Bros. said it hoped more women would turn out in force for the Hilary Swank tearjerker now that Christmas-related chores are behind them. The musical spoof Walk Hard: The Dewey Cox Story reported a four-day haul of $4.7 million. Distributor Columbia Pictures did not have a Christmas Day estimate for the box office disappointment. Midfield rankings will change when final