[scifinoir2] SIX TRUTHS OF LIFE

2009-09-13 Thread Reece Jennings
 
 












Six Truths of Life 

1. You cannot touch all of your top teeth with your tongue. 




2. All idiots, while reading the First Truth, will try it. 




3. And they will discover that the First Truth is a lie. 


4. You're smiling now because you're 
one of those idiots.  
 
  
 5. You soon will forward this to another idiot.  
 
6. And there will still be a stupid smile on your face while you're doing
it. 
 

I do not apologize for this and I do not feel sorry about sending it to you.

I'm an idiot too and I just needed the company.







[scifinoir2] LITTLE TYRONE

2009-09-04 Thread Reece Jennings
 
A teacher in a Detroit, Michigan kindergarten class asked her students if
they could tell the class what sound a pig makes.

  
Little Tyrone stood up and said: 
  

  
Up against the wall mother f ** ker! 
  
  
  
I guess there aren't many farms in Detroit.



[scifinoir2] signing off for a while

2009-08-29 Thread Reece Jennings
Hello everybody: 
 
I have to leave you for a while.  Please keep my personal emails:
 
mcjennings...@yahoo.com
 
mcjenning...@comcast.net  (spit!!!)   
 
I had a doctor's appointment  yesterday  with my lung doc.  He scheduled me
to see a  Thorasic 
Surgeon to set up a surgical biopsy.   (Isn't that a dinosaur park?  Oh!
That's JURassic!)
 
My appointment is Tuesday, Sept. 1.  I will find out when the surgical
biopsy is then.  After the biopsy,  
3 - 5 weeks healing for NORMAL activities , or surgery, depending on the
results. 
 
My lung doc said there are 2 things he's trying to differentiate, and the
PETSCAN  I had can't help him.
Sarcoids, which are benign lymph node issues, and Lymphoma, which is
cancerous.
 
Either way, there are still treatment issues after the biopsy results are
in.   
 
I will be in touch off and on, but for now I gotta leave ya!  Remember,
y'all (y'all?)  are family!
 
Peace!
 
Reece Jennings 


RE: [scifinoir2] signing off for a while

2009-08-29 Thread Reece Jennings
Thank you, Sammie.  Of course I know you as Fate, but I kind of like the
personal
touch.  God bless you.  I hope you're recovering well!
 
I just signed off, so your message is probably the only one I'll get on our
group email.
 
Tracy, you know how I feel about you.  If not, I love you.  And all the
rest, those who I know
well, those I have not met, and those who hate Comcrap, I'll miss you, but
I'll check in on
the web now and again.
 
I have 2 TIVOS and plenty of Oxycodone.  
 
Take care!

  _  

From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Augustus Augustus
Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2009 11:32 AM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] signing off for a while


  


Reece,

besides hitting you up on your personal email, i will make sure that i
include you in my prayers also.  i had umbilical hernia surgery last month,
so i know that going under the knife is no fun.  be strong.

Sammie (Fate)

--- On Sat, 8/29/09, Reece Jennings mcjennings...@yahoo.com wrote:




From: Reece Jennings mcjennings...@yahoo.com
Subject: [scifinoir2] signing off for a while
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, August 29, 2009, 11:25 AM


  



Hello everybody: 
 
I have to leave you for a while.  Please keep my personal emails:
 
mcjennings124@ yahoo.com
 
mcjennings55@ comcast.net  (spit!!!)   
 
I had a doctor's appointment  yesterday  with my lung doc.  He scheduled me
to see a  Thorasic 
Surgeon to set up a surgical biopsy.   (Isn't that a dinosaur park?  Oh!
That's JURassic!)
 
My appointment is Tuesday, Sept. 1.  I will find out when the surgical
biopsy is then.  After the biopsy,  
3 - 5 weeks healing for NORMAL activities , or surgery, depending on the
results. 
 
My lung doc said there are 2 things he's trying to differentiate, and the
PETSCAN  I had can't help him.
Sarcoids, which are benign lymph node issues, and Lymphoma, which is
cancerous.
 
Either way, there are still treatment issues after the biopsy results are
in.   
 
I will be in touch off and on, but for now I gotta leave ya!  Remember,
y'all (y'all?)  are family!
 
Peace!
 
Reece Jennings 





RE: [scifinoir2] foreplay

2009-08-22 Thread Reece Jennings
I guess they go where the people are, huh?

  _  

From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Martin Baxter
Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2009 7:43 AM
To: SciFiNoir2
Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] foreplay


  

Hackers are busy suckers these days. Tinyurl, Facebook, Twitter...

If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody
hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik






  _  

To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: hellomahog...@gmail.com
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 17:27:39 -0700
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] foreplay

  
Tinyurl was hacked a few times in the last 6 months spreading malware. I
don't trust them anymore. 



On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 5:24 PM, Reece Jennings mcjennings124@
mailto:mcjennings...@yahoo.com yahoo.com wrote:




You can use the free www.tinyurl. http://www.tinyurl.com com and cut the
size of it:
 
http://tinyurl. http://tinyurl.com/mmjm8m com/mmjm8m
 

  _  

From: scifino...@yahoogro mailto:scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com ups.com
[mailto:scifino...@yahoogro mailto:scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com ups.com] On
Behalf Of Mr. Worf
Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 7:24 PM
To: scifino...@yahoogro mailto:scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com ups.com
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] foreplay


  

Excellent!


On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 7:18 AM, Augustus Augustus jazzynupe_007@
mailto:jazzynupe_...@yahoo.com yahoo.com wrote:




sorry, u have 2 cut and paste the entire link -  minus the spaces.

Fate.

p.s.  one day i am going 2 learn how 2 embed the entire link/video without
making people cut and paste.  

--- On Fri, 8/21/09, Augustus Augustus jazzynupe_007@
mailto:jazzynupe_...@yahoo.com yahoo.com wrote:




From: Augustus Augustus jazzynupe_007@ mailto:jazzynupe_...@yahoo.com
yahoo.com
Subject: [scifinoir2] foreplay
To: Black SciFi blackscifihorrorfan
mailto:blackscifihorrorfantasyc...@yahoogroups.com
tasyc...@yahoogroups.com
Cc: Sci Fi scifino...@yahoogro mailto:scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
ups.com
Date: Friday, August 21, 2009, 9:49 AM


  

http://www.collegeh umor.com/ video:1910202

Fate.









-- 
Bringing diversity to perversity for 9 years! 
Mahogany at: http://groups.
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yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/








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yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/



  _  

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RE: [scifinoir2] foreplay

2009-08-21 Thread Reece Jennings
You can use the free www.tinyurl.com and cut the size of it:
 
http://tinyurl.com/mmjm8m
 

  _  

From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Mr. Worf
Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 7:24 PM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] foreplay


  

Excellent!



On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 7:18 AM, Augustus Augustus jazzynupe_007@
mailto:jazzynupe_...@yahoo.com yahoo.com wrote:




sorry, u have 2 cut and paste the entire link -  minus the spaces.

Fate.

p.s.  one day i am going 2 learn how 2 embed the entire link/video without
making people cut and paste.  

--- On Fri, 8/21/09, Augustus Augustus jazzynupe_007@
mailto:jazzynupe_...@yahoo.com yahoo.com wrote:




From: Augustus Augustus jazzynupe_007@ mailto:jazzynupe_...@yahoo.com
yahoo.com
Subject: [scifinoir2] foreplay
To: Black SciFi blackscifihorrorfan
mailto:blackscifihorrorfantasyc...@yahoogroups.com
tasyc...@yahoogroups.com
Cc: Sci Fi scifino...@yahoogro mailto:scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
ups.com
Date: Friday, August 21, 2009, 9:49 AM


  



http://www.collegeh umor.com/ video:1910202

Fate.









-- 
Bringing diversity to perversity for 9 years! 
Mahogany at: http://groups.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/





RE: [scifinoir2] foreplay

2009-08-21 Thread Reece Jennings
Didn't know that!  Thanks!
 
How the hell do you hack a url change program?  I'm so old-school...sigh...

  _  

From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Mr. Worf
Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 8:28 PM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] foreplay


  

Tinyurl was hacked a few times in the last 6 months spreading malware. I
don't trust them anymore. 



On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 5:24 PM, Reece Jennings mcjennings124@
mailto:mcjennings...@yahoo.com yahoo.com wrote:




You can use the free www.tinyurl. http://www.tinyurl.com com and cut the
size of it:
 
http://tinyurl. http://tinyurl.com/mmjm8m com/mmjm8m
 

  _  

From: scifino...@yahoogro mailto:scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com ups.com
[mailto:scifino...@yahoogro mailto:scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com ups.com] On
Behalf Of Mr. Worf
Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 7:24 PM
To: scifino...@yahoogro mailto:scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com ups.com
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] foreplay


  



Excellent!


On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 7:18 AM, Augustus Augustus jazzynupe_007@
mailto:jazzynupe_...@yahoo.com yahoo.com wrote:




sorry, u have 2 cut and paste the entire link -  minus the spaces.

Fate.

p.s.  one day i am going 2 learn how 2 embed the entire link/video without
making people cut and paste.  

--- On Fri, 8/21/09, Augustus Augustus jazzynupe_007@
mailto:jazzynupe_...@yahoo.com yahoo.com wrote:




From: Augustus Augustus jazzynupe_007@ mailto:jazzynupe_...@yahoo.com
yahoo.com
Subject: [scifinoir2] foreplay
To: Black SciFi blackscifihorrorfan
mailto:blackscifihorrorfantasyc...@yahoogroups.com
tasyc...@yahoogroups.com
Cc: Sci Fi scifino...@yahoogro mailto:scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
ups.com
Date: Friday, August 21, 2009, 9:49 AM


  



http://www.collegeh umor.com/ video:1910202

Fate.









-- 
Bringing diversity to perversity for 9 years! 
Mahogany at: http://groups.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/









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Mahogany at: http://groups.
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yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/





RE: [scifinoir2] Re: FW: Michael Vick on 60 Minutes

2009-08-18 Thread Reece Jennings
Well-said and on point, Rave!
 

  _  

From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of ravenadal
Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 8:30 AM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: FW: Michael Vick on 60 Minutes


  

Let me say this about that: killing dogs in Virgina is a class four felony
the same as the possession of marijuana, and no one in the Commonwealth of
Virginia has ever gotten two years at Leavenworth and a $100 million fine
for possession of marijuana. When Greyhound racing dogs can't race any more
they are killed. When under performing race horses can't race any more they
become dog food. When racing pigs can't cut it any more they become
barbecue. 

I personally think Vick's mother did a piss poor job of raising him and his
brother, Marcus, but Vick's punishment and the need for his subsequent mea
culpas has been WAY out of proportion to his crime.

~(no)rave!

--- In scifino...@yahoogro mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com ups.com,
Reece Jennings mcjennings...@... wrote:

 People have strong opinions about this man and what he did. Check out the
 interview. 
 My opinion? He still doesn't get it, but everybody deserves a second
 chance. 
 
 I think he'll mess up again, maybe in some other area of his life. I hope
 not. 
 
 
 
 http://www.cbsnews.
http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=5245553ntag=contentMain;cbsCarousel
 com/video/watch/?id=5245553ntag=contentMain;cbsCarousel
 
 http://www.cbsnews.
http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=5245553ntag=contentMain;cbsCarousel
 com/video/watch/?id=5245553ntag=contentMain;cbsCarousel
 
 
 Maurice C. Jennings, Security Consultant 
 ForceField Protection Products, LLC
 
 The experts in personal and home protection!
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RE: [RE][scifinoir2] FW: Michael Vick on 60 Minutes

2009-08-17 Thread Reece Jennings
I hear you, Martin.  And I agree with you on most of what you say about this
man.
But something that he said during the interview caught my attention, and I
think this
is probably the most truthful thing he said, whether he was put up to it in
his script or
not:
 
I was 8 years old, and dog fights happened all the time.  I saw the older
guys doing it
and it seemed like it was normal.  After all, the older guys were doing it,
and it seemed
ok.:
 
With these kinds of role models, who needs enemies?
 
And Vick's Image Team?  HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
 
He might want to just shut up play ball, and hope that nobody remembers his
actions off the field.

  _  

From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Martin Baxter
Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 7:58 AM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [RE][scifinoir2] FW: Michael Vick on 60 Minutes


  


Reece, I saw about as much of that as I could stand last night. About four
minutes, all totaled.

You're right -- he doesn't get it, probably never will. Not sure if he'll
mess up again, but I'm certain that I don't care. Yes, he deserves a second
chance.

So do all of those dogs who fought and died for his purposes. A shame they
won't get that...

I heard, well before he was even released from Jail, that the Eagles were
looking into signing him. (The whisper-stream is a wonderful thing.) To the
friend who passed me that tidbit, I replied that, should this come to
fruition, I'd cease being an Eagles fan, which I've been since the mid-60s.

Well, it happened. And into the garbage went my Ron Jaworski #7 jersey.
(Made all the worse is the strong possibility that Vick may be giv! en the
number.)

If I may dip into the world of sports as it relates to this topic, this is a
dumb-a$$ move on the Eagles' part for two reasons:

1) Philly fans are notoriously merciless. I can remember going to a
Phillies-Mets game at the Vet, when Mike Schmidt played. I've had the honor
of meeting him since, and a finer man you're unlikely to meet. Entering that
game, Schmidt was in the middle of a bad hitting slump, and was spoken of by
fans using terms that might make the leathernecks among us blush. 

That night, he went 3-for-4 and drove in two runs.

The following night, he had two more hits.

They *still* spoke horribly of the man.

Now, throw in Vick, after what he's done? Lincoln Financial Field will have
to hire extra security everytime he sets foot on the field.

And 2) the Eagles need another quarterback about as much as I need
mental-stim drugs. They *do*, however, need O-linesmen (three of them hurt,
one out for the s! eason, last I heard) and linebackers (two hurt, one done
for the year) 

Mental Giant, Jeff Lurie is. :P

(relinquishing soapbox, wishing I'd had someone sell that jersey for me on
evilBay instead)







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Subject : [scifinoir2] FW: Michael Vick on 60 Minutes
Date : Mon, 17 Aug 2009 00:59:19 -0400
From : Reece Jennings mcjennings...@yahoo.com
To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com

People have strong opinions about this man and what he did. Check out the 
interview. 
My opinion? He still doesn't get it, but everybody deserves a second 
chance. 

I think he'll mess up again, maybe in some other area of his life. I hope 
not. 




 
http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=5245553ntag=contentMain;cbsCarousel 


Maurice C. Jennings, Security Consultant 
ForceField Protection Products, LLC 

The experts in personal and home protection! 
www.forcefieldprotectionproducts.com 

860-690-4981 







http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQdwk8Yntds 




RE: [scifinoir2] Gonna be in Atlanta Tuesday through Friday

2009-08-17 Thread Reece Jennings
I hear that there are a LOT of dogs in the Atlanta area!
Ok, bad joke, but the TIMING you presented me with could not be denied!!
 

  _  

From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of ravenadal
Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 8:33 AM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [scifinoir2] Gonna be in Atlanta Tuesday through Friday


  

Gonna be in Atlanta Tuesday through Friday. What is must see? What is must
eat?

~rave!






[scifinoir2] Partnership for Prescription Assisistance Website

2009-08-17 Thread Reece Jennings
Here is the direct link to the prescription assistance site:
 
http://www.pparx.org/
 
Maurice C. Jennings, Security Consultant 
ForceField Protection Products, LLC

The experts in personal and home protection!
www.forcefieldprotectionproducts.com
http://www.forcefieldprotectionproducts.com/ 
860-690-4981
 
 


[scifinoir2] FW: Michael Vick on 60 Minutes

2009-08-16 Thread Reece Jennings
People have strong opinions about this man and what he did.  Check out the
interview. 
My opinion?  He still doesn't get it, but everybody deserves a second
chance.  
 
I think he'll mess up again, maybe in some other area of his life.  I hope
not. 
 
 
 
http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=5245553ntag=contentMain;cbsCarousel

http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=5245553ntag=contentMain;cbsCarousel
 
 
Maurice C. Jennings, Security Consultant 
ForceField Protection Products, LLC

The experts in personal and home protection!
www.forcefieldprotectionproducts.com
http://www.forcefieldprotectionproducts.com/ 
860-690-4981
 
 


RE: [RE][scifinoir2] Amazon Needs to Make the Kindle Available Beyond Amazon.com: Report

2009-08-14 Thread Reece Jennings
How true, Martin.  How true!  I don't feel the say way about newspapers any
more, but that's
got more to do with the souls who deliver them.  Twice a couple of years ago
I came back from
week-long trips to find 7...7!  newspapers lying on my lawn.  And this was
after I called them to 
stop delivery.

  _  

From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Martin Baxter
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2009 8:24 AM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [RE][scifinoir2] Amazon Needs to Make the Kindle Available Beyond
Amazon.com: Report


  


The notion of Kindle never really had me.

Across the years I've been online, I've picked up hundreds of e-books, and I
have yet to read more than ten of them. I simply get fix myself to the
notion of reading off a screen. I read a review of the Kindle 2 in the New
Yorker a couple of weeks ago, and the reviewer's teen-aged son, also in the
review project with him, finished one of his favorite books and told his
father that he liked it, but that he'd still rather read the paperback
(which he had dug out for just that purpose). I'm the same way. I like the
feel of the book in my hands.

To say nothing of having the security of knowing that no one can delete my
copy...







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Subject : [scifinoir2] Amazon Needs to Make the Kindle Available Beyond
Amazon.com: Report
Date : Sun, 9 Aug 2009 23:12:00 -0700
From : Tracey de Morsella tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com
To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, 'SciFinoir Lit'
scifinoir-...@yahoogroups.com

http://gigaom.com/2009/08/03/amazon-needs-to-make-the-kindle-available-beyon

d-amazon-com-report/ 

Amazon will need to start selling the Kindle through venues other than just 
the Amazon.com web site if it wants to maintain its lead in the U.S. 
e-reader market, according to a new 

ereader-data-suggests-amazon-vulnerability.html study from Forrester 
Research. For while the vast majority of current e-reader owners are what 
the research firm calls older male tech optimists who tend to buy books 
online, future potential customers will consist of a dramatically different

demographic. 

The e-reader market remains nascent, but it's growing at a rapid clip: As of

the end of the second quarter, just 1.5 percent of U.S. online consumers 
owned an e-reader, but that figure had more than doubled from the second 
quarter of 2008. And at the same time, the percentage of people who said 
they planned to buy an e-reader over the next six months tripled, to 6 
percent. Helping to drive that early adoption have been Amazon's existing 
customers, according to Forrester. [A]s frequent online book shoppers, 
[early adopters] have an existing relationship with Amazon - a perfect storm

of demographics that has contributed to the Kindle's early success. And 
while the second wave is expected to look similar to the first - also 
largely male, but younger and even more likely to read books - the wave 
after it is expected to be dominated by less tech-savvy females who buy 
books from multiple source like local bookstores, supermarkets and big 
chains like Wal-Mart, places where, currently, the Kindle isn't sold. 

The firm believes the total number of e-readers sold will top 3 million by 
the end of this year, and 13 million by the end of 2013. This may seem like 
a lot, but as Forrester notes, five years after the iPod was released, more 
than 50 million MP3 players had been sold. Apple grabbed the lion's share of

that market - more than 70 percent in the U.S. currently - by rapidly 
expanding the locations where an iPod could be purchased. Now in addition to

the Apple Store, consumers can buy an iPod from Wal-Mart, Target, Best Buy, 
Radio Shack or Amazon.com. The Kindle can only be purchased from Amazon.com,

and it's difficult to see one before you buy it (though Amazon did roll out 
a program where you can See 

d=1000230941pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DERpf_rd_s=browsepf_rd_r=1Y8VB8DKWKW4YTH08F

KNpf_rd_t=101pf_rd_p=482501811pf_rd_i=133141011 A Kindle In Your City, 
but that's a far cry from playing with one in a store). If Amazon doesn't 
expand its distribution, it will leave a huge gap into which other 
e-readers, like one from Plastic Logic that 
features Barnes  Noble's e-bookstore, will jump. 








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RE: [RE][scifinoir2] Amazon Needs to Make the Kindle Available Beyond Amazon.com: Report

2009-08-14 Thread Reece Jennings
If we refuse to buy at the high price, they'll do it.  They're like drug
dealers.
They sell us what we're willing to buy...

  _  

From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of George Arterberry
Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 3:39 PM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [RE][scifinoir2] Amazon Needs to Make the Kindle Available
Beyond Amazon.com: Report


  


The price right now is just too high.Heck I can download books to my
Iphone.They need to tweak the technology and lower the price.

--- On Mon, 8/10/09, Reece Jennings mcjennings...@yahoo.com wrote:




From: Reece Jennings mcjennings...@yahoo.com
Subject: RE: [RE][scifinoir2] Amazon Needs to Make the Kindle Available
Beyond Amazon.com: Report
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, August 10, 2009, 9:02 AM


  
How true, Martin.  How true!  I don't feel the say way about newspapers any
more, but that's
got more to do with the souls who deliver them.  Twice a couple of years ago
I came back from
week-long trips to find 7...7!  newspapers lying on my lawn.  And this was
after I called them to 
stop delivery.

  _  

From: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com [mailto:scifinoir2@ yahoogroups. com] On
Behalf Of Martin Baxter
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2009 8:24 AM
To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com
Subject: [RE][scifinoir2] Amazon Needs to Make the Kindle Available Beyond
Amazon.com: Report


  
The notion of Kindle never really had me.

Across the years I've been online, I've picked up hundreds of e-books, and I
have yet to read more than ten of them. I simply get fix myself to the
notion of reading off a screen. I read a review of the Kindle 2 in the New
Yorker a couple of weeks ago, and the reviewer's teen-aged son, also in the
review project with him, finished one of his favorite books and told his
father that he liked it, but that he'd still rather read the paperback
(which he had dug out for just that purpose). I'm the same way. I like the
feel of the book in my hands.

To say nothing of having the security of knowing that no one can delete my
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Date : Sun, 9 Aug 2009 23:12:00 -0700
From : Tracey de Morsella tdli...@multicultur aladvantage. com
To : scifino...@yahoogro ups.com, 'SciFinoir Lit' scifinoir-lit@
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http://gigaom. com/2009/ 08/03/amazon- needs-to- make-the- kindle-available
-beyon 
d-amazon-com- report/ 

Amazon will need to start selling the Kindle through venues other than just 
the Amazon.com web site if it wants to maintain its lead in the U.S. 
e-reader market, according to a new 

ereader-data- suggests- amazon-vulnerabi lity.html study from Forrester 
Research. For while the vast majority of current e-reader owners are what 
the research firm calls older male tech optimists who tend to buy books 
online, future potential customers will consist of a dramatically different

demographic. 

The e-reader market remains nascent, but it's growing at a rapid clip: As of

the end of the second quarter, just 1.5 percent of U.S. online consumers 
owned an e-reader, but that figure had more than doubled from the second 
quarter of 2008. And at the same time, the percentage of people who said 
they planned to buy an e-reader over the next six months tripled, to 6 
percent. Helping to drive that early adoption have been Amazon's existing 
customers, according to Forrester. [A]s frequent online book shoppers, 
[early adopters] have an existing relationship with Amazon - a perfect storm

of demographics that has contributed to the Kindle's early success. And 
while the second wave is expected to look similar to the first - also 
largely male, but younger and even more likely to read books - the wave 
after it is expected to be dominated by less tech-savvy females who buy 
books from multiple source like local bookstores, supermarkets and big 
chains like Wal-Mart, places where, currently, the Kindle isn't sold. 

The firm believes the total number of e-readers sold will top 3 million by 
the end of this year, and 13 million by the end of 2013. This may seem like 
a lot, but as Forrester notes, five years after the iPod was released, more 
than 50 million MP3 players had been sold. Apple grabbed the lion's share of

that market - more than 70 percent in the U.S. currently - by rapidly 
expanding the locations where an iPod could be purchased. Now in addition to

the Apple Store, consumers can buy an iPod from Wal-Mart, Target, Best Buy, 
Radio Shack or Amazon.com. The Kindle can only be purchased from Amazon.com,

and it's difficult to see one before you buy it (though Amazon did roll out 
a program where you can See 

d=1000230941pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0D ERpf_rd_s=browsepf_rd_r=1Y8VB8DKWKW
4YTH08F 
KNpf_rd_t=101pf_rd_p=482501811pf_rd_i=133141011 A Kindle In Your City, 
but that's a far cry from playing with one in a store). If Amazon doesn't

[scifinoir2] 1 Reason Not to Mess With Children...

2009-08-08 Thread Reece Jennings
Well...
  

 
A little girl was talking to her teacher about whales.


The teacher said it was physically impossible for a whale to swallow a
human because even though it was a very large mammal its throat was very
small. 

The little girl stated that Jonah was swallowed by a whale.. 

Irritated, the teacher reiterated that a whale could not swallow a human; it
was physically impossible. 

The little girl said, 'When I get to heaven I will ask Jonah'. 

The teacher asked, 'What if Jonah went to hell?' 

The little girl replied, 'Then you ask him'
 
 
 


RE: [scifinoir2] Hollywood gets tough on talent

2009-08-07 Thread Reece Jennings
I remember seeing him in an interview a while ago, and he was asked that
question.
He's more of an actor's actor from what he said.  I'm guessing there are
superstar 
athletes who would be good front office people, but they like what they do
each day.
 

  _  

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Behalf Of Daryle Lockhart
Sent: Friday, August 07, 2009 10:39 AM
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Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Hollywood gets tough on talent


  



Denzel's  reduced front  end was the whole problem. Fox came back with an
offer than gives him a LOT more back end, so Denzel's not exactly suffering
for this picture. As an aside, I don't know why Denzel's not directing
more. I like his work. 

The studios are realizing  that Southern California is still on planet
Earth, and that this money  has to COME from somewhere. Finally. 

Nice part there about Will Smith. Hopefully this will inspire actors (and
managers/agents) to choose smarter projects.

Julia Roberts in The Proposal  would have been a disaster.  This seems
like a piece about the changing  of the guard in Hollywood, and it's about
time.


On Aug 7, 2009, at 9:39 AM, ravenadal wrote:


  

Denzel takes pay cut. As Jay Leno says (speaking about Paula Abdul)anything
over $8 million is wasted, anyway.

~rave!

http://faegaz. http://faegaz.notlong.com notlong.com

Hollywood gets tough on talent: $20-million movie salaries go down the tubes

It wasn't so long ago, after putting in years building up his career, that
Denzel Washington finally cracked the $20-million star salary club. But now
he's taking a sizable pay cut to star in the upcoming 20th Century Fox film
Unstoppable after the studio threatened to pull the plug on the picture in
order to get its costs down. David Fincher used to make $8 million to $10
million per picture, along with a nice piece of first-dollar gross, as an
A-list director. But he's taking considerably less money -- and no
first-dollar gross -- to get his new Sony Pictures film, The Social
Network, off the ground.

The same goes for Dinner for Schmucks star Steve Carell and director Jay
Roach. They may be two of the top comic talents in the business, but the duo
aren't getting their usual salary quotes for the upcoming Paramount movie.
When Julia Roberts told Disney she wouldn't cut her salary to star in the
recent comedy The Proposal, the studio bailed on Roberts, hiring Sandra
Bullock for even less than what it had offered Roberts. The movie turned out
to be one of the summer's biggest comedy hits.

What's going on here? In Hollywood, whenever a studio executive would sit
down to negotiate with an agent for an actor, writer or filmmaker, one of
the first questions volleyed across the table was: What's your client's
quote? If you'd written, directed or starred in a big hit, or even enjoyed a
couple of modest successes in a row, your quote went up. And unless you ran
off to make some nutty labor-of-love indie film where everyone committed
suicide in the third act, your salary level was assured. That quote stuck
like glue. Even after a few stinkers, a big star could still get their $15-
or $20-million fee.

Not anymore. For basically everyone except Will Smith, salary quotes have
evaporated, simply vanishing into thin air, as have the much-coveted
first-dollar gross deals that top actors and filmmakers used to get. As one
successful producer put it: Quotes and first-dollar gross have just flown
out the window -- the studios simply won't make those deals anymore, he
explained. It's all about what the role is worth in that particular movie.
The studio pays for the lead actor or actress, but after that, well, the
talent is just getting grinded. Everyone else is lucky to be working. 

(You'll notice that no one is quoted by name in this post because, in
addition to the natural Hollywood aversion to talking about salaries, the
studio chiefs don't want to look like they're gloating about reining in
talent costs -- although they often are, gloating that is -- while the
agents and managers don't want their clients to think that they've been
largely powerless to stop the new austerity measures, for fear that their
talent will skedaddle across town to another agency.)

In Hollywood the new mantra is: cash break zero. Instead of paying out
first-dollar gross, where top talent would start collecting huge wads of
cash right off the top from the very first box-office receipts, the studios
are now constructing deals where the talent participates in the profits from
a film only after the studio has recouped both its production and marketing
costs. The new arrangement can still lead to huge windfalls -- in part
because the studios are now giving top talent a far bigger piece of the home
video take than they could get before. But the talent only reaps the rewards
if they are willing to bet on themselves and can deliver a hit.

Just ask Michael Bay, who has boasted that he made $80 million from his
share 

[scifinoir2] Police investigation

2009-08-07 Thread Reece Jennings


 



 



  


A TT police officer stops at a ranch up in Tabaquite and talks with
the owner, an old farmer.
He tells the farmer, 'I need to inspect your property for illegally
grown drugs.'

The old farmer says, 'Okay, but make sure you don't go in that field
over there.'

The officer verbally explodes saying,
'Mister, I have the authority of the Government with me.'
Reaching into his rear pant pocket and removing his Police badge, the
officer proudly displays it to the farmer.
'See this badge?
This badge means I am allowed to go wherever I wish..on any land.
There is nothing to stop me - this badge gives me the right.
No questions asked or answers given.
Have I made myself clear?
Do you understand?'

The farmer nods politely and goes about his chores.

Within minutes, the farmer hears loud screams and sees the officer
running for his life.
Close behind is the farmer's bull.
With every step the bull is gaining ground on the officer.
The officer is clearly terrified.

The old farmer immediately throws down his tools, runs to the fence
and yells at the top of his lungs.
'Your badge!
Show him your badge!!'

  


















RE: [scifinoir2] EXCLUSIVE: Disney's The Princess and the Frog Directors Address Racial Concerns

2009-08-06 Thread Reece Jennings
I like your comparisons, sir.  Well-said!
 
And the Jewish guys would say, Benjamin who, honey?
or
Did you mis-spell my colon?   :o)
 
And you know, even if we give them kudos for their writing ability abouty
what they know,
don't they always seem to come up with advisors when they need them?  Why
not a living
Black Marine from Iwo Jima?  Or a driver on the Red Ball Express?  
 

  _  

From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Mr. Worf
Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 5:33 PM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] EXCLUSIVE: Disney's The Princess and the Frog
Directors Address Racial Concerns


  

I'm not picking on them, nor am I homophobic, but they helped to build
Hollywood and are part of its foundation. The problem is that the lack of
diversity within their writing staff (hollywood as a whole) produces the
stereotypes and poor representation of characters. So we get stuff like Ving
Rhimes in Kojak instead of Ving Rhimes in Hannibal or we get Will Smith in
Independence day instead of Will Smith in the Gen. Benjamin Davis jr. or sr.
or Colin Powell story. 



On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 2:05 PM, Reece Jennings mcjennings124@
mailto:mcjennings...@yahoo.com yahoo.com wrote:




Totally agree.  LOL at 'gay jewish guys!'

  _  

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Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 4:47 PM 

To: scifino...@yahoogro mailto:scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com ups.com
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] EXCLUSIVE: Disney's The Princess and the Frog
Directors Address Racial Concerns


  

I think that part of the problem is that the writers are white people from
the midwest or gay jewish guys so they are going to really understand black
people (or any one else) enough to be able to write about them, so when we
do get movies that have characters of color we get these stereotypes. For
established actors of color they get parts that are usually a little over
the top like Will Smith. 



On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 5:13 AM, mcjennings124@
mailto:mcjennings...@yahoo.com yahoo.com wrote:




Hollywood can't do us. They don't KNOW us. If you mean those who grew up
Black who are in Hollywood, then I agree with you. But otherwise, WE have to
do us.


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  _  

From: Mr. Worf 
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 02:40:55 -0700
To: scifino...@yahoogro mailto:scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com ups.com 

Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] EXCLUSIVE: Disney's The Princess and the Frog
Directors Address Racial Concerns

  



I agree. I think that there should be more movies with the main characters a
married black couple. Hollywood has it looking like the only black couples
out there is the Huxtables. 


On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 1:31 PM, Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@
mailto:keithbjohn...@comcast.net comcast.net wrote:




See, I hear that, but I disagree with this little by little method. You
mention Tyler perry, well he's become a multi-millionaire by doing black
movies. Granted, the vast majority of his audience is black people, but
that's alright by me. I guess I'm just tired of my people's stories and
perceptions and presentations all being filtered and reworked to please
another group's desires and likes.  I grew up in a home with two black
parents, my wife is a black woman, I know lots of black couples who are in
love and doing it well. You're really telling me I should just be grateful
and patient because someone sees fit to only tell half the story, that I
shouldn't find it offensive that in a country where most black people marry
black people, the story is shifted just so whites will show up?
Sorry, that bothers me. and it really bothers me because the cliche is still
the same: black woman gets handed off to men of other races, as has been
done for centuries. Do you think white Americans would have been okay had
all the early Disney cartoons put Snow White, Cinderella, etc., with
non-white men? Nope.

At the end of the day, though, it's back to FUBU: For Us, By Us.  I guess
until more black people pool money and resources and continue to make our
own projects, we can't expect truly diverse presentation of our life on the
big--or small--screen. 



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Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 1:51:26 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] EXCLUSIVE: Disney's The Princess and the Frog
Directors Address Racial Concerns

  



Keith,
 
Love the comments on the subject. As I was reading your post I was itching
to respond. By the end I just have to clap and give you a pat on the back
saying.its ok man.
 
Here is another perspective.
 
It is altruistic to think that an all black romantic cast will play to all
audiences.
 
Black movies consist of the following:
 
'Comin up' stories

RE: [scifinoir2] OT: Sprinkle some crack on him

2009-08-04 Thread Reece Jennings
Did they forget that the video cam in the cop's car was on???
Do they just not care???
 
They're being outed by all of the cameras we have now.  I always advise
people I know to turn ON the cell-cam if they get stopped.  
 
Cops have ALWAYS done illegal stuff.  Not all of them, but enough that it's
a crime (pun intended).  It's MUCH worse in the North and the South, and
East
and West.
 
I'm still proud to have been a police officer, detective, and sergeant.  I
was honest,
I demanded that my officers be honest, and we treated people with respect
and 
decency.  DECENCY means you don't plant drugs on people!!!  WTF???
 
One of my officers took photos of a woman's Domestic Violence injuries.  He
didn't
think they showed up enough (Polaroid days), so he COLORED THEM IN WITH A
MARKER!!!
He sells boats now...He's lucky he didn't get arrested!  THAT'S how you
treat cops who do criminal
things!!!
 
Ok, rant is over...
 
But it's going to get worse!

  _  

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Behalf Of Mr. Worf
Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2009 8:03 AM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] OT: Sprinkle some crack on him


  

The abusive cops are just falling out of the woodwork.



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RE: [RE][scifinoir2] OT: Sprinkle some crack on him

2009-08-04 Thread Reece Jennings
Yeah...I actually got aroused thinking about the sunken chest feeling.
Mother Fwhups!

  _  

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Behalf Of Martin Baxter
Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2009 8:20 AM
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Oh, how much I'd give to see the face of that idiot cop when this video hit
the big time...







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RE: [RE][scifinoir2] OT: Sprinkle some crack on him

2009-08-04 Thread Reece Jennings
That's the deal!  I used to do police candidate background investigations.
We visited homes, neighborhoods, friends, and enemies.  Jobs, too.
 
It's amazing what the neighbor the officer left off the application will
tell you about
him/her.  

  _  

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damn. damn. damn. damn. damn.
 what did Ice Cube say back in the day?  'if u want 2 stop police
harassment, stop hiring crooked cops'...or
something 2 the effect.

Fate.

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Subject: [RE][scifinoir2] OT: Sprinkle some crack on him
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, August 4, 2009, 8:20 AM


  



Oh, how much I'd give to see the face of that idiot cop when this video hit
the big time...







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RE: [scifinoir2] OT: Sprinkle some crack on him

2009-08-04 Thread Reece Jennings
So true, Mr. Worf!  So true!

  _  

From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Mr. Worf
Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2009 8:41 PM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] OT: Sprinkle some crack on him


  

I guess the old saying comes into play here, the road to evil is paved with
good intentions. When the police starts bending the rules to make things
come out the way that they want, what good are the rules anymore? 

I still think about that police department in La. that has been pulling over
people of color and confiscating their money and belongings. That's not
police work. That is being a pirate!



On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 7:26 AM, Reece Jennings mcjennings124@
mailto:mcjennings...@yahoo.com yahoo.com wrote:




Did they forget that the video cam in the cop's car was on???
Do they just not care???
 
They're being outed by all of the cameras we have now.  I always advise
people I know to turn ON the cell-cam if they get stopped.  
 
Cops have ALWAYS done illegal stuff.  Not all of them, but enough that it's
a crime (pun intended).  It's MUCH worse in the North and the South, and
East
and West.
 
I'm still proud to have been a police officer, detective, and sergeant.  I
was honest,
I demanded that my officers be honest, and we treated people with respect
and 
decency.  DECENCY means you don't plant drugs on people!!!  WTF???
 
One of my officers took photos of a woman's Domestic Violence injuries.  He
didn't
think they showed up enough (Polaroid days), so he COLORED THEM IN WITH A
MARKER!!!
He sells boats now...He's lucky he didn't get arrested!  THAT'S how you
treat cops who do criminal
things!!!
 
Ok, rant is over...
 
But it's going to get worse!

  _  

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The abusive cops are just falling out of the woodwork.



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[scifinoir2] forget Tweetdeck -- Use HootSuite instead!

2009-08-01 Thread Reece Jennings
I told a friend of mine about Tweetdeck, and he told me about HootSuite.
 
I already dumped and uninstalled Tweetdeck.  HootSuite is web-based.
Nothing installed
on your computer.  Plus, a lot more features!
 
Try HootSuite 2.0. So many cool features it will certainly make your Tweeter
experience more enjoyable. 

  


http://www.hootsuite.com http://www.hootsuite.com/  


  


  

 


RE: [RE][scifinoir2] Foundation-like

2009-07-31 Thread Reece Jennings
Thanks, Rave.  And for me, I believe my dad gave me Heinlein's short
stories, and the moving tattoos
got me, along with Starship Troopers.  So I guess I was primed for Ms.
Butler!

  _  

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Behalf Of ravenadal
Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 7:30 AM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Foundation-like


  

Maurice, apparently, in your forties, you were still an open-faced
sandwich: open to new ideas and experiences. I would suggest that makes you
an exception that proves the rule. Most people are fairly hardwired in their
tastes and beliefs by then. IMNSHO. 

I ask, were you a SF reader of any kind prior to discovering Octavia 
Butler two decades ago? My entry drug was a fantasy novel called Black and
Blue Magic by Zipha Keatley Synder (Twelve-year-old Harry Houdini Marco is
awkward and clumsy, bearing little resemblance to his magician namesake,
until he acquires the gift of flight. - does it get any better than
that?)read when I was ten years old. Wow! Pow! Zoom! That book took me to
the moon. Next thing you know I am reading Arthur C. Clarke, Samuel L.
Delany and, yes, Octavia Butler.

As an adult few things, and mostly movies seen on the big screen(the first
Matrix, Slumdog Millionaire), come near to affecting me that way.

~rave!

--- In scifino...@yahoogro mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com ups.com,
mcjennings...@... wrote:

 I'm 62! I 'discovered'. Octavia Butler I my late 40s. There ARE no limits
except the ones we put on ourselves. Go on. Discover and enjoy!
 
 And for me, it's still about books. The pictures that the words create in
my imagination are perfect for me. They don't need translation ore
interpretation.
 
 Sent via BlackBerry by ATT
 
 -Original Message-
 From: ravenadal ravena...@...
 
 Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 01:47:35 
 To: scifino...@yahoogro mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com ups.com
 Subject: Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Foundation-like
 
 
 Is it possible to become a sci-fi reader in one's thirties? I have always
considered SF a young person's game - if you don't get the bug early you
seldom get it. I wish I had a dollar for every time I have suggested a great
book to someone post thirty to only be met with a I don't read science
fiction.
 
 ~(no)rave!
 
 (by-the-by: regarding Asimov, his style has always left me cold. I am a
Sir Arthur C. Clarke guy, myself).
 
 --- In scifino...@yahoogro mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com ups.com,
marian_changling md_moore42@ wrote:
 
  I am going to guess that she is in her thirties. 
  
  I groaned when I heard that she was reading the book. Mainly because SF
of that era was strong on ideas and less so with characterization. I
remember loving the book but I don't know if I could read it now. Now I
might sit back and gripe that there were no real female characters. 
  
  I'm concerned that she might think that is what SF is like.
  
  
  
  --- In scifino...@yahoogro mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com
ups.com, Martin Baxter truthseeker013@ wrote:
  
   Marian, the Hyperion series is about the closest I can think of in
comparison, in terms of scope and depth of event and characterization.
Having read both, I wouldn't dis-recommend Hyperion. I would, however,
suggest Foundation first. Can I be rude and inquire as to your friend's
age? A few SF book recommends I've made recently have faltered because I've
advised books written during my generation to people of a later one, and
many of the cultural constructs are incomprehensible to them.
   
   
   
   
   
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  Date : Thu, 30 Jul 2009 18:27:06 -
   
  From : marian_changling md_moore42@
   
  To : scifino...@yahoogro mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com ups.com
   
   
  I have a friend who started Asimov's Foundation series because of the
theme. Now she is faltering. I wouldn't be surprised if it is because of
1940's style of writing.
   
   Anyone know a modern book with a similar theme? Has no one taken up
the mantle of psychohistory from Asimov? Wikipedia mentions a number of
graphic novels and Hyperion. I never read that one; anyone know anything
about it? Anyone have another suggestion?
   
   
   
   
   http://www.youtube. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQdwk8Yntds
com/watch?v=JQdwk8Yntds
  
 







RE: [scifinoir2] EXCLUSIVE: Disney's The Princess and the Frog Directors Address Racial Concerns

2009-07-31 Thread Reece Jennings
Totally agree.  LOL at 'gay jewish guys!'

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From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Mr. Worf
Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 4:47 PM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] EXCLUSIVE: Disney's The Princess and the Frog
Directors Address Racial Concerns


  

I think that part of the problem is that the writers are white people from
the midwest or gay jewish guys so they are going to really understand black
people (or any one else) enough to be able to write about them, so when we
do get movies that have characters of color we get these stereotypes. For
established actors of color they get parts that are usually a little over
the top like Will Smith. 



On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 5:13 AM, mcjennings124@
mailto:mcjennings...@yahoo.com yahoo.com wrote:




Hollywood can't do us. They don't KNOW us. If you mean those who grew up
Black who are in Hollywood, then I agree with you. But otherwise, WE have to
do us.


Sent via BlackBerry by ATT



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From: Mr. Worf 
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 02:40:55 -0700
To: scifino...@yahoogro mailto:scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com ups.com 

Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] EXCLUSIVE: Disney's The Princess and the Frog
Directors Address Racial Concerns

  



I agree. I think that there should be more movies with the main characters a
married black couple. Hollywood has it looking like the only black couples
out there is the Huxtables. 


On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 1:31 PM, Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@
mailto:keithbjohn...@comcast.net comcast.net wrote:




See, I hear that, but I disagree with this little by little method. You
mention Tyler perry, well he's become a multi-millionaire by doing black
movies. Granted, the vast majority of his audience is black people, but
that's alright by me. I guess I'm just tired of my people's stories and
perceptions and presentations all being filtered and reworked to please
another group's desires and likes.  I grew up in a home with two black
parents, my wife is a black woman, I know lots of black couples who are in
love and doing it well. You're really telling me I should just be grateful
and patient because someone sees fit to only tell half the story, that I
shouldn't find it offensive that in a country where most black people marry
black people, the story is shifted just so whites will show up?
Sorry, that bothers me. and it really bothers me because the cliche is still
the same: black woman gets handed off to men of other races, as has been
done for centuries. Do you think white Americans would have been okay had
all the early Disney cartoons put Snow White, Cinderella, etc., with
non-white men? Nope.

At the end of the day, though, it's back to FUBU: For Us, By Us.  I guess
until more black people pool money and resources and continue to make our
own projects, we can't expect truly diverse presentation of our life on the
big--or small--screen. 



- Original Message -
From: Omari Confer clockworkman@ mailto:clockwork...@gmail.com
gmail.com
To: scifino...@yahoogro mailto:scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com ups.com

Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 1:51:26 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] EXCLUSIVE: Disney's The Princess and the Frog
Directors Address Racial Concerns

  



Keith,
 
Love the comments on the subject. As I was reading your post I was itching
to respond. By the end I just have to clap and give you a pat on the back
saying.its ok man.
 
Here is another perspective.
 
It is altruistic to think that an all black romantic cast will play to all
audiences.
 
Black movies consist of the following:
 
'Comin up' stories/Hood to Good
Black Love mixed with comedy
 
(This excludes Spike Lee movies of course)
 
So creating a movie with two black leads clearly fits within this paradigm,
thus seemingly excluding white audiences. Be honest.most white audiences
see an all black or partly black cast and they think either hood movie or a
tyler perry flick.
 
The transition to truly racially fluid entertainment has to be gradual. The
key demographic, just by numbers alone has been all white and is
transitioning to a blended look. 
 
Not only should we be happy that there is a black princess but we should
rejoice. This means that the math and the money was right enough to make it
happen...translation- Executives with big bucks accept that black characters
have universal appeal and can be human..not just black.
 
This is progressRome was not built overnight.
 
c w m


 
On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 1:04 AM, Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@
mailto:keithbjohn...@comcast.net comcast.net wrote:


  



They can explain all they want, but the truth of this is the Hitch effect:
H'wood refusing to back a big romance with a man and woman of clearly
African-American roots.  Will Smith himself said the folks behind Hitch
didn't want a black female lead, as they feared it wouldn't draw whites. A
white female lead--not a goal in my book to be sought--was of course right
out.


RE: [RE][scifinoir2] Foundation-like

2009-07-30 Thread Reece Jennings
Pardon the spelling.  Blackberry/Crackberry!

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From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of mcjennings...@yahoo.com
Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 10:17 PM
To: SciFi2
Subject: Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Foundation-like


  

I'm 62! I 'discovered'. Octavia Butler I my late 40s. There ARE no limits
except the ones we put on ourselves. Go on. Discover and enjoy!

And for me, it's still about books. The pictures that the words create in my
imagination are perfect for me. They don't need translation ore
interpretation.



Sent via BlackBerry by ATT


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From: ravenadal 
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 01:47:35 -
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Foundation-like


  

Is it possible to become a sci-fi reader in one's thirties? I have always
considered SF a young person's game - if you don't get the bug early you
seldom get it. I wish I had a dollar for every time I have suggested a great
book to someone post thirty to only be met with a I don't read science
fiction.

~(no)rave!

(by-the-by: regarding Asimov, his style has always left me cold. I am a Sir
Arthur C. Clarke guy, myself).

--- In scifino...@yahoogro mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com ups.com,
marian_changling md_moor...@... wrote:

 I am going to guess that she is in her thirties. 
 
 I groaned when I heard that she was reading the book. Mainly because SF of
that era was strong on ideas and less so with characterization. I remember
loving the book but I don't know if I could read it now. Now I might sit
back and gripe that there were no real female characters. 
 
 I'm concerned that she might think that is what SF is like.
 
 
 
 --- In scifino...@yahoogro mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com ups.com,
Martin Baxter truthseeker013@ wrote:
 
  Marian, the Hyperion series is about the closest I can think of in
comparison, in terms of scope and depth of event and characterization.
Having read both, I wouldn't dis-recommend Hyperion. I would, however,
suggest Foundation first. Can I be rude and inquire as to your friend's
age? A few SF book recommends I've made recently have faltered because I've
advised books written during my generation to people of a later one, and
many of the cultural constructs are incomprehensible to them.
  
  
  
  
  
 -[ Received Mail Content ]--
  
 Subject : [scifinoir2] Foundation-like
  
 Date : Thu, 30 Jul 2009 18:27:06 -
  
 From : marian_changling md_moore42@
  
 To : scifino...@yahoogro mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com ups.com
  
  
 I have a friend who started Asimov's Foundation series because of the
theme. Now she is faltering. I wouldn't be surprised if it is because of
1940's style of writing.
  
  Anyone know a modern book with a similar theme? Has no one taken up the
mantle of psychohistory from Asimov? Wikipedia mentions a number of graphic
novels and Hyperion. I never read that one; anyone know anything about it?
Anyone have another suggestion?
  
  
  
  
  http://www.youtube. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQdwk8Yntds
com/watch?v=JQdwk8Yntds
 







[scifinoir2] FW: [Blackfolks] Henry Louis Gates, Jr. Police Report (Smoking Gun)

2009-07-26 Thread Reece Jennings
From an astute person...The report reads about like I thought it would.  And
the Sergeant apparently did NOT
arrest Dr. Gates for disorderly conduct against him, but be because he
'alarmed' the people outside the house.
 
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RE: [scifinoir2] FW: Gates Saga: Maureen Dowd Weighs In

2009-07-26 Thread Reece Jennings
Wow!  So many holes, who said what...?
 
Jay Leno used to joke about Video-taping his life for his own protection.
Without 
any recording, some of this stuff is one's word against another's.  
 
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2009/0723092gates1.html
 
 

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From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Tracey de Morsella
Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2009 2:53 PM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [scifinoir2] FW: Gates Saga: Maureen Dowd Weighs In


  


Great Op-Ed Piece
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/26/opinion/26dowd.html?th=emc=thpagewanted
=print 

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/26/opinion/26dowd.html?th=emc=thpagewanted=
print

NEW YORK TIMES

July 26, 2009

Op-Ed Columnist


Bite Your Tongue 


By MAUREEN DOWD

WASHINGTON

Being obnoxious isn't a crime.

As we reflect on the arc of civil rights dramas from Jim Crow to Jim
Crowley, my friend John Timoney, the police chief of Miami, observes:
There's a fine line between disorderly conduct and freedom of speech. It
can get tough out there, but I tell my officers, 'Don't make matters worse
by throwing handcuffs on someone. Bite your tongue and just leave.' 

As the daughter of a police detective, I always prefer to side with the
police. But this time, I'm struggling.

No matter how odd or confrontational Henry Louis Gates Jr. was that
afternoon, he should not have been arrested once Sergeant Crowley
ascertained that the Harvard professor was in his own home.

President Obama was right the first time, that the encounter had a stupid
ending, and the second time, that both Gates and Crowley overreacted. His
soothing assessment that two good people got snared in a bad moment seems on
target.

It escalated into a clash of egos - the hard-working white cop vs. the
globe-trotting black scholar, the town vs. the gown, the Lowell Police
Academy vs. the American Academy of Arts and Letters.

Crowley told a Boston sports station that Gates seemed very peculiar - even
more so now that I know how educated he is.

Gates told his daughter Elizabeth in The Daily Beast: He should have gotten
out of there and said, 'I'm sorry, sir, good luck. Loved your PBS series -
check with you later!' 

Gates told me Crowley was so gruff and unsolicitous the hair on my neck
stood up. Crowley says Gates acted put off and agitated. But the strong
guy with the gun has more control than the weak guy with the cane. An
officer who teaches racial sensitivity should not have latched on to a
technicality about neighbors - who seemed to be outnumbered by cops -
getting alarmed by Gates's outburst. 

From Shakespeare to Hitchcock, mistaken identity makes for a powerful
narrative.

A police officer who's proud of his reputation for getting along with black
officers, and for teaching cadets to avoid racial profiling, feels maligned
to be cast20as a racist white Boston cop. 

A famous professor who studies identity and summers in Martha's Vineyard
feels maligned to be cast as a black burglar with backpack and crowbar.

Race, class and testosterone will always be a combustible brew. Our first
African-American president will try to make the peace with Gates (who
supported Hillary) and Crowley (whose father voted for Obama).

I tracked down Gates by phone at J.F.K. on Friday after he had talked to the
president and agreed to go to the White House for a symbolic beer with the
man he labeled a rogue policeman. Gates, coughing from a cold he picked up
in China, said he wondered if perhaps fate and history chose me for this
event. He was pleased with the thousands of empathetic e-mail notes he's
getting, material for a PBS documentary on racial profiling.

He says he's ready for marriage counseling from the Solomon in the Oval,
who wrote in his memoir that the police pulled him over for no apparent
reason. If Sgt. Crowley and the president and I meet, it's clearly not
going to be like Judge Joe Brown, OK? 'You tell your side, you tell your
side.' We have to agree to disagree. But I would be surprised if somebody
didn't say, 'I'm sorry you were arrested.' 

How can they ever reconcile their accounts? Cr owley says he asked Gates to
come outside and the professor replied, Ya, I'll speak with your mama
outside. Gates wryly suggests Crowley got the line from watching Good
Times as a child.

Does it sound logical that I would talk about the mother of a big white guy
with a gun? he asked. I'm 5-7 and 150 pounds. I don't walk on ice, much
less (expletive) with some cop in my kitchen. I don't want another hip
replacement.

I asked how he felt when he learned that Crowley was the one who gave
mouth-to-mouth resuscitation to Reggie Lewis, the black Celtics basketball
star, in a vain attempt to save his life after a heart attack in 1993. He
replied: I don't stereotype. I never saw him as the head of the Ku Klux
Klan. Maybe he was just having a bad day.

And Gates says that if anyone thinks he's a fiery black militant, they've
got the wrong guy, considering he 

RE: [RE][scifinoir2] Re: topic: What is the worst book to movie adaptation that you know of?

2009-07-21 Thread Reece Jennings
I know!!!  I loved the book and how it eschewed sterrotypes!  I don't want
to 
generate any spoilers!
 
And THAT book made me look at how I perceived people in command,
pilots...most
people with any rank.  I was chagrined, to say the least!
 
(Chagrined???  WTF!!!)
 

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From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Martin Baxter
Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2009 3:45 PM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [RE][scifinoir2] Re: topic: What is the worst book to movie
adaptation that you know of?


  


Back in, because I remembered one.

Starship Troopers. From thought-invoking polemic on politics to
gore-splattered testosterone-fest. :P







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From : marian_changling md_moor...@yahoo.com
To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com

Probably the Earthsea book that Ursula Le Guin had a fit about. 

--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Mr. Worf wrote: 
 
 What do you think? 
 







http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQdwk8Yntds 




RE: [RE][scifinoir2] Anyone going to Comic Con in San Diego?

2009-07-19 Thread Reece Jennings
You can, but it's hard to close the boxcar doors, and it's very windy if
they're open...

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From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Martin Baxter
Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2009 7:29 AM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [RE][scifinoir2] Anyone going to Comic Con in San Diego?


  


If I can get there on -- $31.99.







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Subject : [scifinoir2] Anyone going to Comic Con in San Diego?
Date : Sat, 18 Jul 2009 17:21:16 -0700 (PDT)
From : George Arterberry brotherfromhow...@yahoo.com
To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com

Wanna hear Reginald Hudlin's excuse for Black Panther 



























http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQdwk8Yntds 




RE: [RE][scifinoir2] Anyone going to Comic Con in San Diego?

2009-07-19 Thread Reece Jennings
HHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Martin Baxter
Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2009 11:36 AM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [RE][scifinoir2] Anyone going to Comic Con in San Diego?


  


Reece, I can't ride the rails that way anymore. Ever since that incident in
Kansas, I'm kind of a marked man in hobo circles...

Martin (if they'd only left my blankie alone...)







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From : Reece Jennings mcjennings...@yahoo.com
To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com

You can, but it's hard to close the boxcar doors, and it's very windy if 
they're open... 

_ 

From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Martin Baxter 
Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2009 7:29 AM 
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Subject: [RE][scifinoir2] Anyone going to Comic Con in San Diego? 





If I can get there on -- $31.99. 







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Subject : [scifinoir2] Anyone going to Comic Con in San Diego? 
Date : Sat, 18 Jul 2009 17:21:16 -0700 (PDT) 
From : George Arterberry 
To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 

Wanna hear Reginald Hudlin's excuse for Black Panther 



























http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQdwk8Yntds 







http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQdwk8Yntds 




RE: [RE][scifinoir2] Anyone going to Comic Con in San Diego?

2009-07-19 Thread Reece Jennings
A blog, maybe?  E-hobo...

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From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Keith Johnson
Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2009 12:00 PM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Anyone going to Comic Con in San Diego?


  


Ah, that true American icon--the hobo! Would be an interesting journey
Martin. You could right memoirs of hopping the rails across America, kind of
a modern day Jack London treatment.


- Original Message -
From: Reece Jennings mcjennings...@yahoo.com
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2009 9:25:55 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: RE: [RE][scifinoir2] Anyone going to Comic Con in San Diego?

  

You can, but it's hard to close the boxcar doors, and it's very windy if
they're open...

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From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Martin Baxter
Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2009 7:29 AM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [RE][scifinoir2] Anyone going to Comic Con in San Diego?


  


If I can get there on -- $31.99.







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Subject : [scifinoir2] Anyone going to Comic Con in San Diego?
Date : Sat, 18 Jul 2009 17:21:16 -0700 (PDT)
From : George Arterberry brotherfromhow...@yahoo.com
To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com

Wanna hear Reginald Hudlin's excuse for Black Panther 



























http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQdwk8Yntds 




RE: [RE][scifinoir2] Anyone going to Comic Con in San Diego?

2009-07-19 Thread Reece Jennings
Excellent!!!
 

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From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Keith Johnson
Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2009 11:01 PM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Anyone going to Comic Con in San Diego?


  


Ha, there's a thought! Or Twitter from the Tracks!

- Original Message -
From: Reece Jennings mcjennings...@yahoo.com
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2009 2:08:43 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: RE: [RE][scifinoir2] Anyone going to Comic Con in San Diego?

  

A blog, maybe?  E-hobo...

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From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Keith Johnson
Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2009 12:00 PM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Anyone going to Comic Con in San Diego?


  

Ah, that true American icon--the hobo! Would be an interesting journey
Martin. You could right memoirs of hopping the rails across America, kind of
a modern day Jack London treatment.


- Original Message -
From: Reece Jennings mcjennings...@yahoo.com
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2009 9:25:55 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: RE: [RE][scifinoir2] Anyone going to Comic Con in San Diego?

  

You can, but it's hard to close the boxcar doors, and it's very windy if
they're open...

  _  

From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Martin Baxter
Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2009 7:29 AM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [RE][scifinoir2] Anyone going to Comic Con in San Diego?


  


If I can get there on -- $31.99.







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Subject : [scifinoir2] Anyone going to Comic Con in San Diego?
Date : Sat, 18 Jul 2009 17:21:16 -0700 (PDT)
From : George Arterberry brotherfromhow...@yahoo.com
To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com

Wanna hear Reginald Hudlin's excuse for Black Panther 



























http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQdwk8Yntds 




RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Steele: I'll Woo Blacks To GOP With Fried Chicken And Potato Salad

2009-07-16 Thread Reece Jennings
I saw that on the news, Mr. Worf.  It's one thing to hear about it, but to
actually see
thousands of official-looking 'IOUs' being mailed in place of checks...It
was surreal...

  _  

From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Mr. Worf
Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 5:26 PM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Steele: I'll Woo Blacks To GOP With Fried
Chicken And Potato Salad


  

We are also going through it in the state of california. Our state had to
send out IOUs to employees, contractors, and other folks. Plus we are $24
Billion in the red. 



On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 1:42 PM, B. Smith daikaij...@yahoo.
mailto:daikaij...@yahoo.com com wrote:


That seems so familiarlike the mess a certain president left behind
after his 8 year reign of terror.


--- In scifino...@yahoogro mailto:scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com ups.com, Mr.
Worf hellomahog...@... wrote:

 Part of the brainwashing/hype platform that the republicans have been
 winning on is that they believe (or say they believe) that the government
 can run itself without having an intelligent person in charge sort of an
 every man approach to government. This was successful for many years and
 appealed to many people. The problem is that without a true leader at the
 helm we can find ourselves in a hotmess.


 On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 7:42 AM, votomguy votom...@... wrote:

  I was done with the republican party when they elect a black guy as the
  head of the RNC and then gets called out as not being the head of the
  republican party. gee i thought that's what the chair of the RNC was.
and
  then you still want me to believe that sarah sho me the money palin is
  more qualified than a harvard grad. I consider myself to be a
republican,
  but I followed Powell's lead and jumped ship too.
 
  --- In scifino...@yahoogro mailto:scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com ups.com,
B. Smith daikaiju66@ wrote:
  
   He's somewhere beteen Alan Keyes and Clarence Thomas. I heard his
  defense of the racist comments from the newly elected president of the
  Young Republicans and it was sickening.
  
   --- In scifino...@yahoogro mailto:scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
ups.com, votomguy votomguy@ wrote:
   
Colin Powell he is not.
   
--- In scifino...@yahoogro mailto:scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
ups.com, L Freeman msles59130@ wrote:

 Sigh. Oh, Michael, what can we even say about you?

 But remember all, even though it may SEEM like he is a monumental
  moron, this is all a part of some strategy that we can't yet comprehend.
It
  is all just a part of his plan.

 --- On Tue, 7/14/09, Tracey de Morsella tdlists@ wrote:

 From: Tracey de Morsella tdlists@
 Subject: [scifinoir2] Steele: I'll Woo Blacks To GOP With Fried
  Chicken And Potato Salad
 To: scifino...@yahoogro mailto:scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
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  sonofafieldnegro@, williamsfred@, 'Zanfordino Anthony'
  betaque@
 Date: Tuesday, July 14, 2009, 10:57 PM























 Sadly this is NOT satire

 The Young Republicans convention was held in Indianapolis last
  weekend and their election of a racist, middle-aged woman as President
isn't
  the only controversial item to come out of the GOP gathering.

 Local Republican blog Hoosier Access was able to get RNC Chairman
  Michael Steele to sit down with a group of bloggers and they taped the
  conversation. The old gaffe-o-matic (or as I like to call him, the
  Republican Joe Biden!) answers a question from a gay person of color in
this
  clip about the GOP's diversity outreach.



 Yes, that's right. To lure African-Americans into the GOP, Steele
is
  offering fried chicken and potato salad. Since he mentions Republicans
  should also be reaching out to the LGBT community, I wonder what
stereotype
  he's going to offer us? Buttplugs and Birkenstocks?

 See the video

 http://www.huffingt onpost.com/ bil-browning/ steele-gop-
  woos-blacks- wi_b_231534. html

   
  
 
 
 
 
  
 
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RE: [scifinoir2] Obama's choice for Surgeon General: Change We Can Believe In

2009-07-14 Thread Reece Jennings
Amen!  AND the clinic burned down after that, and she rebuilt it again!
And she treated everybody.

  _  

From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Martin Baxter
Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 3:27 PM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Obama's choice for Surgeon General: Change We Can
Believe In






When I heard that Dr Benjamin had rebuilt a clinic post-Katrina, in spite of
FEMA's best efforts, she won my vote.







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To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com

Sounds like a good choice to me. :) 

On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 9:33 AM, ravenadal wrote: 

 President Obama has chosen Dr. Regina Benjamin as his choice for the next 
 surgeon general. Dr. Benjamin, a black woman, is the founder and CEO of 
 Bayou La Batre Rural Health Clinic in Bayou La Batre, Alabama. In 1995 , 
 Dr. Benjamin became the first black woman and the youngest doctor elected
to 
 serve on the board of the American Medical Association. In 1998, she 
 received the Nelson Mandela Award for Health and Human Rights. In 2008,
she 
 received a MacArthur Foundation genius grant supporting her efforts to 
 treat patients in the Gulf Coast region regardless of their ability to
pay. 
 
 http://twitter.com/ravenadal 
 http://blackplush.blogspot.com 
 
 
 
  
 
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RE: [RE][scifinoir2] Question: When does the hate stop and human decency begin?

2009-07-13 Thread Reece Jennings
Thanks, Martin.  If I can say that wisdom comes from mistakes and hindsight,
then I'll
accept your compliment gracefully.  
 
I used to do just that...let them get to me...then one day someone much
wiser than I 
pointed out that spending time trying to change what someone thinks or feels
about me
was a fool's errand, and a waste of good energy...which is what we all are
anyway...energy...
 
Ever since then, when I've had the VERY male human reaction to want to cut
off the balls
of people who judge me (us) from their limited perspective, I take a breath
and curtail the thoughts...
 
:o)
 

  _  

From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Martin Baxter
Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 8:40 AM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [RE][scifinoir2] Question: When does the hate stop and human
decency begin?






What a wise, wonderful man you are, Reece.







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decency begin?
Date : Sun, 12 Jul 2009 20:32:25 -0400
From : Reece Jennings mcjennings...@yahoo.com
To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com

Just remember those time-honored words...F**K them... 

They're entitled to their opinions, but we don't have to react to them. 
Don't let them ruin your day. 

_ 

From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Martin Baxter 
Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 4:47 PM 
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Subject: [RE][scifinoir2] Question: When does the hate stop and human 
decency begin? 







I was in a bad mood when I walked in the door. This did not help. 

Not for the first time in my life, I am NOT proud to be an American. 







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begin? 
Date : Sun, 12 Jul 2009 09:21:05 -0700 (PDT) 
From : Augustus Augustus 
To : bham_meet_n_gr...@yahoogroups.com, the_zetaheaven_gr...@yahoogroups.com


Hate to post this, but I found this from a Princeton professor friend of 
mine. 

http://www.facebook.com/ext/share.php?sid=101100539206h=Wq46xu=HJmBoref=n

f 







http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQdwk8Yntds 







http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQdwk8Yntds 




RE: [RE][scifinoir2] Question: When does the hate stop and human decency begin?

2009-07-13 Thread Reece Jennings
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA  Maybe that's why it jumped into my head when I was
writing!!!

  _  

From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Augustus Augustus
Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 11:32 AM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [RE][scifinoir2] Question: When does the hate stop and human
decency begin?







but Reece, take it from me.  cutting off a ball or two fromthe crazies, it
is such good therapy!  :-)
 
Fate.

--- On Mon, 7/13/09, Reece Jennings mcjennings...@yahoo.com wrote:



From: Reece Jennings mcjennings...@yahoo.com
Subject: RE: [RE][scifinoir2] Question: When does the hate stop and human
decency begin?
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, July 13, 2009, 10:47 AM


Thanks, Martin.  If I can say that wisdom comes from mistakes and hindsight,
then I'll
accept your compliment gracefully.  
 
I used to do just that...let them get to me...then one day someone much
wiser than I 
pointed out that spending time trying to change what someone thinks or feels
about me
was a fool's errand, and a waste of good energy...which is what we all are
anyway...energy. ..
 
Ever since then, when I've had the VERY male human reaction to want to cut
off the balls
of people who judge me (us) from their limited perspective, I take a breath
and curtail the thoughts...
 
:o)
 

  _  

From: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com [mailto:scifinoir2@ yahoogroups. com] On
Behalf Of Martin Baxter
Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 8:40 AM
To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com
Subject: RE: [RE][scifinoir2] Question: When does the hate stop and human
decency begin?


What a wise, wonderful man you are, Reece.







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decency begin?
Date : Sun, 12 Jul 2009 20:32:25 -0400
From : Reece Jennings mcjennings124@ yahoo.com
To : scifino...@yahoogro ups.com

Just remember those time-honored words...F**K them... 

They're entitled to their opinions, but we don't have to react to them. 
Don't let them ruin your day. 

_ 

From: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com [mailto:scifinoir2@ yahoogroups. com] On 
Behalf Of Martin Baxter 
Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 4:47 PM 
To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com 
Subject: [RE][scifinoir2] Question: When does the hate stop and human 
decency begin? 







I was in a bad mood when I walked in the door. This did not help. 

Not for the first time in my life, I am NOT proud to be an American. 







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begin? 
Date : Sun, 12 Jul 2009 09:21:05 -0700 (PDT) 
From : Augustus Augustus 
To : Bham_Meet_N_ gr...@yahoogroup s.com, The_Zetaheaven_ gr...@yahoogroup
s.com 

Hate to post this, but I found this from a Princeton professor friend of 
mine. 

http://www.facebook .com/ext/ share.php?
sid=101100539206h=Wq46xu=HJmBoref=n 
f 







http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=JQdwk8Yntds 







http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=JQdwk8Yntds 





RE: [scifinoir2] Question: When does the hate stop and human decency begin?

2009-07-12 Thread Reece Jennings
Human decency is an oxymoron.  Who defines decency?  There are as many
definitions
as there are people to define it.  Let it go.
 
Just know who they are so you don't hang out with them and give them a
chance at you and
yours...
 

  _  

From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Amy Harlib
Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 5:25 PM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Question: When does the hate stop and human
decency begin?






 
ahar...@earthlink. mailto:ahar...@earthlink.net net

Much as I disagree with The President's betrayals of every change we can
believe in - becoming President 'Obusha' essentially, this kind of racist
insanity has got to stop.  We need a whole lot of educating, starting at
very young ages.
 
I voted for Cynthia McKinney,
Amy


Hate to post this, but I found this from a Princeton professor friend of
mine.
 
http://www.facebook
http://www.facebook.com/ext/share.php?sid=101100539206h=Wq46xu=HJmBoref=
nf .com/ext/share.php?sid=101100539206h=Wq46xu=HJmBoref=nf




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RE: [RE][scifinoir2] Question: When does the hate stop and human decency begin?

2009-07-12 Thread Reece Jennings
Just remember those time-honored words...F**K them...
 
They're entitled to their opinions, but we don't have to react to them.
Don't let them ruin your day.

  _  

From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Martin Baxter
Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 4:47 PM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [RE][scifinoir2] Question: When does the hate stop and human
decency begin?







I was in a bad mood when I walked in the door. This did not help.

Not for the first time in my life, I am NOT proud to be an American.







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Date : Sun, 12 Jul 2009 09:21:05 -0700 (PDT)
From : Augustus Augustus jazzynupe_...@yahoo.com
To : bham_meet_n_gr...@yahoogroups.com, the_zetaheaven_gr...@yahoogroups.com

Hate to post this, but I found this from a Princeton professor friend of
mine. 
  
http://www.facebook.com/ext/share.php?sid=101100539206h=Wq46xu=HJmBoref=n
f 







http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQdwk8Yntds 




RE: [scifinoir2] Question: When does the hate stop and human decency begin?

2009-07-12 Thread Reece Jennings
Yup!  I've been Black at least half my life.  The first half I was raised
with white folks.  :o)
That's actually the Blackest half. 
 
And I agree, revel in the victory!

  _  

From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Milton Davis
Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 8:44 PM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Question: When does the hate stop and human
decency begin?






I've been black all my life. I'm used to this.. When racists don't have
anything left to stand on, they resort to this. It's a sign of their defeat.
Revel in the victory.

--- On Mon, 7/13/09, Reece Jennings mcjennings...@yahoo.com wrote:




From: Reece Jennings mcjennings...@yahoo.com
Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Question: When does the hate stop and human
decency begin?
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, July 13, 2009, 12:34 AM





Human decency is an oxymoron.  Who defines decency?  There are as many
definitions
as there are people to define it.  Let it go.
 
Just know who they are so you don't hang out with them and give them a
chance at you and
yours...
 

  _  

From: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com [mailto:scifinoir2@ yahoogroups. com] On
Behalf Of Amy Harlib
Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 5:25 PM
To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Question: When does the hate stop and human
decency begin?





 
ahar...@earthlink. net

Much as I disagree with The President's betrayals of every change we can
believe in - becoming President 'Obusha' essentially, this kind of racist
insanity has got to stop.  We need a whole lot of educating, starting at
very young ages.
 
I voted for Cynthia McKinney,
Amy


Hate to post this, but I found this from a Princeton professor friend of
mine.
 
http://www.facebook .com/ext/
http://www.facebook..com/ext/share.php?sid=101100539206h=Wq46xu=HJmBoref
=nf share.php? sid=101100539206h=Wq46xu=HJmBoref=nf




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RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Legend director, Will Smith, reuniting for fantasy?

2009-07-11 Thread Reece Jennings
Yup!  Jada Porn!!!   LOLLOL!!!  Exactly!  That's why I watch!
That, and the fact that she's the exec producer!
 

  _  

From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Omari Confer
Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2009 6:38 AM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Legend director, Will Smith, reuniting for
fantasy?






Hawthorne is Jada Porn. You literally have no other reason to watch it other
thand seeing her. Scripts are simple and played. Conflict is light and
un-interesting. I thought i would pull my eyes out everytime she curtly
mentions her dead husband!
 
You want a nurse show that better? Nurse Jackie. Showtime
 
c w m


On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 12:39 AM, mcjennings124@
mailto:mcjennings...@yahoo.com yahoo.com wrote:




Hawthorne? I like HER in it. I like the show generally. Her daughter is a
bit over the top, and she's a bit of a Super-Nurse.



Sent via BlackBerry by ATT



  _  

From: Mr. Worf 
Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 20:20:24 -0700
To: scifino...@yahoogro mailto:scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com ups.com 

Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Legend director, Will Smith, reuniting for
fantasy?




Has anyone watched the show that Jada star's in? What is your opinion of it?



On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 6:00 AM, ravenadal ravena...@yahoo.
mailto:ravena...@yahoo.com com wrote:


The Smiths believe in keeping it in the family.  Jada Pinkett-Smith's
younger brother, Caleeb, has a role in Lakeview Terrace which was produced
by husband Will Smith's Overbrook Productions.

~rave!

--- In scifino...@yahoogro mailto:scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com ups.com,
Daryle Lockhart dar...@... wrote:

 Her brother Jaden was really good in Pursuit of Happyness,  but
 unbearable in The Day The Earth Stood Still,  so  I'm down for
 WIllow in this, so long as Will plays her father. If Will's gonna
 direct it, that's fine too,  but it looks like the competitive nature
 of this family  results in some good results on screen.


 On Jul 10, 2009, at 2:38 AM, Tracey de Morsella wrote:

 
 
 
  Last time director Francis Lawrence teamed up with star Will Smith,
  it went pretty well: I Am Legend was a big hit and got generally
  good-to-middling reviews.
 
  Well, now comes news that Lawrence and Smith may reunite for a
  fantastical drama titled The City That Sailed at 20th Century Fox,
  according to The Hollywood Reporter. Here's how the trade paper
  reported it:
 
  The director is developing the project, which is being produced by
  Smith's Overbrook banner, with an eye to direct.
 
  Written by Andrew Niccol, the story follows a New York City street
  magician whose daughter, because of family circumstances, lives in
  England. In exploring a lighthouse one day, the girl discovers a
  room with magic candles and wishes to be reunited with her father,
  causing the island of Manhattan to break away and drift across the
  Pond.
 
  Can we again expect to see Smith's spunky real-life daughter, Willow
  -who played his on-screen kid in Legend-in City? That would make
  the family reunion complete, wouldn't it?
 
  http://scifiwire.
http://scifiwire.com/2009/07/legend-director-will-smit.php
com/2009/07/legend-director-will-smit.php
 
 
 







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RE: [RE][scifinoir2] The man who invented the Hollywood schlock machine.

2009-07-09 Thread Reece Jennings
droolgrr..LOL!!!

  _  

From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Martin Baxter
Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 3:35 PM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [RE][scifinoir2] The man who invented the Hollywood schlock
machine.






As soon as I narrow down the location! ;-D







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Date : Thu, 9 Jul 2009 13:08:24 +
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That's sick! When??? :o) 

Sent via BlackBerry by ATT 

-Original Message- 
From: Martin Baxter 

Date: Thu, 09 Jul 2009 08:34:10 
To: 
Subject: [RE][scifinoir2] The man who invented the Hollywood schlock
machine. 


Who's up for an exhumation and a kangaroo trial? 




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Date : Wed, 08 Jul 2009 23:36:52 - 
From : ravenadal 
To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 

http://www.slate.com/id/2221392/ 


The King of All Formulas 

The incredible true story of the man who invented the Hollywood schlock
machine. 

By Paul Collins 

Posted Monday, July 6, 2009, at 7:02 AM ET 

The Proposal is formulaic. The Taking of Pelham 1 2 3 is formulaic. Imagine
That is formulaic. Even Up is … progressively more formulaic. 

But who came up with the formula? 

If you want the human embodiment of Hollywood predictability, you can't do
better than Wycliffe A. Hill. A profoundly obscure writer of silent
five-reelers, Hill is also the unheralded inventor of something more
enduring: the attempt to engineer movies that will bring the most
satisfaction to the largest number of people—the mob, in other words. 

It was a notion borne of failure. After a hard-knocks apprenticeship in a
Manhattan literary agency, Hill went to Hollywood in 1915, where his first
movie pitch was summarily shot down by Cecil B. DeMille. The problem? No
plot. A dramatic plot, DeMille's brother patiently explained to Hill, is
where someone wants something, something stands in the way of his getting
it, he tries to get it and either does or does not. 

DeMille's prodding was perfectly timed; Hill wandered into a bookshop and
found the new translation of French critic Georges Polti's Thirty-Six
Dramatic Situations. If you've ever endured a teacher bloviating on how
there are only really X number of plots in literature, blame Polti. A
theatre critic, he gamely ran with the claim that Italian playwright Carlo
Gozzi had once succeeded in isolating 36 tragic situations that formed the
building blocks of drama. (Naturally, Gozzi then lost his list.) Polti had a
recent and lesser-known work that had not yet been translated, The Art of
Inventing Characters, which handily presented 36 archetypes. While Polti's
books were largely descriptive, Hill hit upon a notion: What if they were
combined and made prescriptive? 

What if together they made … a formula? 

Hill's Ten Million Photoplay Plots: The Master Key to All Dramatic Plots, a
byzantine matrix of characters and conflicts designed to create endless plot
combinations, was so novel when it debuted in 1919 that the slim guide sold
for an eye-popping $5. Quietly lifting from Polti, Hill created
mix-and-match lists of characters, settings, and dramatic situations. (An
old man wrongfully accused of a mine explosion + seeks refuge from a band of
outlaws + with a woman whose house he enters for a hiding place. + …) It was
the perfect instrument for the silent movies being churned out on Hollywood
lots. 






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RE: [RE][scifinoir2] The Rule of Three

2009-07-01 Thread Reece Jennings
LOL!  I hear you, Martin.  I applaud your ability to go there.  
 
Now you've got me thinking about who I've got a man-crush on...h...
 
The Rock, maybe?  He's beautiful, a man's man, and he plays parts that
emphasize 
who he is.  I especially liked him in Gridiron Gang.
 

  _  

From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Martin Baxter
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 7:43 AM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [RE][scifinoir2] The Rule of Three






HEY!

(pointing at life-sized Gabrielle Union doll in corner)

The Swayz is a *coolness* crush. He sings, he dances, he acts. As for
anything else... Martin don't swing that way. ;-)







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From : Reece Jennings mcjennings...@yahoo.com
To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com

Gulp! (Backing slowly out the door, humming YMCA, talking deep... 
gay 

_ 

From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Martin Baxter 
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 5:18 PM 
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
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Poor guy. I've been a fan of his since first I laid eyes on him. 

Martin (harboring a serious man-crush for The Swayz) 







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If that's the case then they've been gunning for Patrick Swayze for months. 

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Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 16:29:35 -0400 
Subject: [RE][scifinoir2] The Rule of Three 











WHOA. 

Seriously, if anyone wants to contemplate who might be next, I'd check the 
cover of the National Enquirer. They have a freaky track record of calling 
it right well ahead of time. 





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Date : Tue, 30 Jun 2009 18:47:06 - 
From : ravenadal 
To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 

From the Chicago Tribune: 

The recent spate of high-profile deaths likely left you and your friends 
asking: Is there really something to the Celebrity Death Rule of Three? But 
with Ed McMahon, Farrah Fawcett, Michael Jackson and Billy Mays, we now have

four such demises in the last week. Mays' death starts the next cycle, one 
of the four wasn't really a celebrity after all, or the whole axiom is just 
a bunch of bunk. 

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RE: [RE][scifinoir2] The Rule of Three

2009-06-30 Thread Reece Jennings
Gulp!  (Backing slowly out the door, humming YMCA, talking deep...
http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb001_ZSman000 gay 

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Behalf Of Martin Baxter
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 5:18 PM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
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Poor guy. I've been a fan of his since first I laid eyes on him. 

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WHOA. 

Seriously, if anyone wants to contemplate who might be next, I'd check the
cover of the National Enquirer. They have a freaky track record of calling
it right well ahead of time. 





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Date : Tue, 30 Jun 2009 18:47:06 - 
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To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 

From the Chicago Tribune: 

The recent spate of high-profile deaths likely left you and your friends
asking: Is there really something to the Celebrity Death Rule of Three? But
with Ed McMahon, Farrah Fawcett, Michael Jackson and Billy Mays, we now have
four such demises in the last week. Mays' death starts the next cycle, one
of the four wasn't really a celebrity after all, or the whole axiom is just
a bunch of bunk. 

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RE: [RE][scifinoir2] Is Octavia Butler underrated in mainstream sci-fi press?

2009-06-29 Thread Reece Jennings
PS:  My bus company driver number is 555...

  _  

From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Reece Jennings
Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2009 12:01 PM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [RE][scifinoir2] Is Octavia Butler underrated in mainstream
sci-fi press?






I LOVE your zeal, my friend, and I love that our family here has indulged my
passion.  I knew about the 92nd, but I left them out because I couldn't
remember
the exact unit, and I was trying to be a little brief.  Also, the AlCan
highway and the
Black Engineers...

  _  

From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of votomguy
Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2009 11:39 AM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Is Octavia Butler underrated in mainstream
sci-fi press?



I have Brothers in Arms. :) I'm a little sick of the Tuskgee Airmen tho. Too
many of our folk only know them. I'm surprised you forgot the 92nd infantry
Division. I have their unit patch as well as the unit patch of the 555th.
They were the first Smoke Jumpers. Also the 555th was folded into the
Screaming Eagles during the Vietnam War. I've met several of those guys. You
should see their faces light up when you ask them about being a paratrooper.
I always get pissed when I see D-Day landings with all white troops.
**shudder** And I know about the 9th and 10th. Especially the 10th as they
fought alongside the infamous Roughriders, but pretty much had to take
Roosevelt under their wing as they were the only unit in the Spanish
American War that had combat experience. Sorry got a little carried away
there, but when you look at the fact that blacks have been fighting for this
country before it was a country (cough, cough 7 Years War cough). ok I'll
try to behave now

--- In scifino...@yahoogro mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com ups.com,
Reece Jennings mcjennings...@... wrote:

 You have hit my passion...Blacks in WWII. Since my dad was on a few ships
 during the War,
 including the USS Colorado, and the Ajax, and he was in the Philippine
 campaign, I developed
 a passion for books about how Blacks were treated. I'm sure I don't have
to
 tell you about the 761st Tank
 Battalion and General Patton, or the 9th and 10th Cavalry, or the 555th
 (Triple Nickle) Paratrooper battalion...
 
 
 _ 
 
 From: scifino...@yahoogro mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com ups.com
[mailto:scifino...@yahoogro mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com ups.com]
On
 Behalf Of votomguy
 Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 10:52 AM
 To: scifino...@yahoogro mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com ups.com
 Subject: Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Is Octavia Butler underrated in mainstream
 sci-fi press?
 
 
 
 
 
 True. I love the hard science/ military scifi books so those were always
the
 books that I looked for. I got tired of not being able to find hard
science/
 military scifi books writen by blacks or that have blacks as the main
 character (real characters not cheeseballs). I took to studying the Black
 presence in WWII and I picked up a couple of books. Alot of males in
general
 (hey let's face it white guys don't read as much as everybody thinks). I
 would love to see another book like Dark Matter come out. It went along
way
 towards pointing me to Black scifi writers. I always took solace in my
 favorite comic writers (Dwayne McDuffie and Christopher Priest). Not only
do
 they write comics, but they also write comics I can read. 
 
 --- In scifino...@yahoogro mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com ups.com,
 Milton Davis mv_media_atl@ wrote:
 
  I do book signings at least once a month. The majority of the books I
have
 sold have been to black women. I did a book club meeting last year, all
 women. I have a book club meeting sheduled in August, all women. I'm
 confident I'll find more black men willing to read my books and I am
seeing
 more interest among the brothers, especially the young ones. I'm convinced
 that when made aware of what's available the brothers will come. I hope
I'm
 right.
  
  --- On Thu, 6/25/09, votomguy votomguy@ wrote:
  
  
  From: votomguy votomguy@
  Subject: Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Is Octavia Butler underrated in mainstream
 sci-fi press?
  To: scifino...@yahoogro mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com ups.com
  Date: Thursday, June 25, 2009, 9:07 PM
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  Before the hiphop/street novel craze, my mom told me about an article
 (this was in the 90s) that said that Publishers refuse to publish books
 because black men don't read enough. To which I replied, If they never
 publish the books then how will we ever find anything to read. My mom
 simply said that maybe publishers don't want black men to read. 
  
  --- In scifino...@yahoogro ups.com, Reece Jennings mcjennings124@

 wrote:
  
   It might be a combination of all of that, Milton. Yes, Black Women
will
 set
   up book
   clubs, and discuss books, etc. But when I mention Sci-Fi to most Black
   Women, and
   even try to get

RE: [scifinoir2] Re: The Disposible Negro in sci-fi list

2009-06-29 Thread Reece Jennings
You're kidding, right?  I mean about being sorry?
PLEASE contact him here!  :o)
  http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb001_ZSman000 Moon Walk 

  _  

From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of tdemorsella
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2009 2:55 PM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: The Disposible Negro in sci-fi list





Hey Keith:

Sorry To hit you on the list, but I have been trying to reach you. My
computer crashed and I no longer have your contact info. Can you call me

Tracey

Hey fam. Sorry about that. It is an emergency

--- In scifino...@yahoogro mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com ups.com,
Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@... wrote:

 true! 
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@... 
 To: scifino...@yahoogro mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com ups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2009 7:21:26 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: The Disposible Negro in sci-fi list 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Keith, you'd be too busy running to carry on a conversation. ;-D 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 -[ Received Mail Content ]-- 
 Subject : Re: [scifinoir2] Re: The Disposible Negro in sci-fi list 
 Date : Sun, 28 Jun 2009 05:04:37 + (UTC) 
 From : Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@... 
 To : scifino...@yahoogro mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com ups.com 
 
 I don't want my first foray into Podcastdom to be me oogling another woman
in a scifi world! Whatever would I tell my wife?! 
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Omari Confer 
 To: wlro...@..., scifino...@yahoogro mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com
ups.com 
 Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 1:30:10 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: The Disposible Negro in sci-fi list 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 This kinda stuff should be on a podcastis there a scifinoir podcast? 
 
 c w m is the answer 
 - 
 wlrouge wlro...@...  wrote: 
 
 I wonder if I try that at club what would happen? 
 --Lavender 
 
 From: Keith Johnson 
 Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2009 11:33 PM 
 To: scifino...@yahoogro mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com ups.com 
 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: The Disposible Negro in sci-fi list 
 
 Oh yeah, she was rocking that barbarian garb in the Mirror Universe! Gots
to give her credit. And love that scene with evil Sulu: The game has rules.
I protest, and you come back. You didn't come back 
 and then, Slap I changed my mind 
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: C.W. Badie  astromancer2...@...  
 To: scifino...@yahoogro mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com ups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2009 4:55:14 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: The Disposible Negro in sci-fi list 
 
 Yeah, yeah, yeah...but Uhura was great just in the minskirt...when she put
of the bare midriff outfit in Mirror, Mirror, She stamped herself on my
racial memory! Whenever thar episode pops up on TV, I go looking to mate,
dude! 
 
 --- On Wed, 6/17/09, Martin Baxter  truthseeker...@...  wrote: 
 
 From: Martin Baxter  truthseeker...@...  
 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: The Disposible Negro in sci-fi list 
 To: scifino...@yahoogro mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com ups.com 
 Date: Wednesday, June 17, 2009, 7:53 AM 
 
 Which way to the super-cold showers? 
 
 -[ Received Mail Content ]-- 
 Subject : Re: [scifinoir2] Re: The Disposible Negro in sci-fi list 
 Date : Wed, 17 Jun 2009 04:26:42 + (UTC) 
 From : Keith Johnson 
 To : scifino...@yahoogro ups.com 
 
 Uhura was definitely easy on the eyes, especially the legs, so
representative of a sister's body, and so missed in this modern world where
skinny, anorexic-looking actresses are held up as the standard of beauty. 
 
 But you know, I remember many of those guest actresses as much as, if not
more than, Uhura: The actress who played Andrea--the raven-haired android
beauty in What Are Little Girls Made of?, with that eye-catching work
suit...the three ladies in Mudd's Women, who have their beauty enhanced
when taking that crazy drug, especially the one with the long black
hair...the beautiful Dr. Helen Noel (character name chosen because she met
Kirk on Christmas day), who looked especially fetching in that soft-focus
effect Trek often used on womenYvonne Batgirl Craig's, lithe,
gracefully, ferally crazy but undeniably appealing Green Orion Slave Girl
Marta in Whom Gods Destroy...the Native lady an amnesiac Kirk (as Kurok)
marries in The Paradise Syndrome who was the essence of 60s/70s beauty.
You know, the OS alone had more attractive guest stars than a whole season's
worth of the malnourished- looking, surgically enhanced people often held up
nowadays. 
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: C.W. Badie 
 To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2009 5:51:39 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: The Disposible Negro in sci-fi list 
 
 ...And consistently the most 

RE: [RE][scifinoir2] Is Octavia Butler underrated in mainstream sci-fi press?

2009-06-27 Thread Reece Jennings
I LOVE your zeal, my friend, and I love that our family here has indulged my
passion.  I knew about the 92nd, but I left them out because I couldn't
remember
the exact unit, and I was trying to be a little brief.  Also, the AlCan
highway and the
Black Engineers...

  _  

From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of votomguy
Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2009 11:39 AM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Is Octavia Butler underrated in mainstream
sci-fi press?





I have Brothers in Arms. :) I'm a little sick of the Tuskgee Airmen tho. Too
many of our folk only know them. I'm surprised you forgot the 92nd infantry
Division. I have their unit patch as well as the unit patch of the 555th.
They were the first Smoke Jumpers. Also the 555th was folded into the
Screaming Eagles during the Vietnam War. I've met several of those guys. You
should see their faces light up when you ask them about being a paratrooper.
I always get pissed when I see D-Day landings with all white troops.
**shudder** And I know about the 9th and 10th. Especially the 10th as they
fought alongside the infamous Roughriders, but pretty much had to take
Roosevelt under their wing as they were the only unit in the Spanish
American War that had combat experience. Sorry got a little carried away
there, but when you look at the fact that blacks have been fighting for this
country before it was a country (cough, cough 7 Years War cough). ok I'll
try to behave now

--- In scifino...@yahoogro mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com ups.com,
Reece Jennings mcjennings...@... wrote:

 You have hit my passion...Blacks in WWII. Since my dad was on a few ships
 during the War,
 including the USS Colorado, and the Ajax, and he was in the Philippine
 campaign, I developed
 a passion for books about how Blacks were treated. I'm sure I don't have
to
 tell you about the 761st Tank
 Battalion and General Patton, or the 9th and 10th Cavalry, or the 555th
 (Triple Nickle) Paratrooper battalion...
 
 
 _ 
 
 From: scifino...@yahoogro mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com ups.com
[mailto:scifino...@yahoogro mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com ups.com]
On
 Behalf Of votomguy
 Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 10:52 AM
 To: scifino...@yahoogro mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com ups.com
 Subject: Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Is Octavia Butler underrated in mainstream
 sci-fi press?
 
 
 
 
 
 True. I love the hard science/ military scifi books so those were always
the
 books that I looked for. I got tired of not being able to find hard
science/
 military scifi books writen by blacks or that have blacks as the main
 character (real characters not cheeseballs). I took to studying the Black
 presence in WWII and I picked up a couple of books. Alot of males in
general
 (hey let's face it white guys don't read as much as everybody thinks). I
 would love to see another book like Dark Matter come out. It went along
way
 towards pointing me to Black scifi writers. I always took solace in my
 favorite comic writers (Dwayne McDuffie and Christopher Priest). Not only
do
 they write comics, but they also write comics I can read. 
 
 --- In scifino...@yahoogro mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com ups.com,
 Milton Davis mv_media_atl@ wrote:
 
  I do book signings at least once a month. The majority of the books I
have
 sold have been to black women. I did a book club meeting last year, all
 women. I have a book club meeting sheduled in August, all women. I'm
 confident I'll find more black men willing to read my books and I am
seeing
 more interest among the brothers, especially the young ones. I'm convinced
 that when made aware of what's available the brothers will come. I hope
I'm
 right.
  
  --- On Thu, 6/25/09, votomguy votomguy@ wrote:
  
  
  From: votomguy votomguy@
  Subject: Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Is Octavia Butler underrated in mainstream
 sci-fi press?
  To: scifino...@yahoogro mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com ups.com
  Date: Thursday, June 25, 2009, 9:07 PM
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  Before the hiphop/street novel craze, my mom told me about an article
 (this was in the 90s) that said that Publishers refuse to publish books
 because black men don't read enough. To which I replied, If they never
 publish the books then how will we ever find anything to read. My mom
 simply said that maybe publishers don't want black men to read. 
  
  --- In scifino...@yahoogro ups.com, Reece Jennings mcjennings124@

 wrote:
  
   It might be a combination of all of that, Milton. Yes, Black Women
will
 set
   up book
   clubs, and discuss books, etc. But when I mention Sci-Fi to most Black
   Women, and
   even try to get the to read some of Ms. Butler's books, they tend to
   pre-judge and reject
   without looking. So I keep it to myself...except here, of course. I
 think
   a lot of women are
   cutting off a vast expanse of great reading by pre-judging SF.
   
   
   _ 
   
   From: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com [mailto:scifino

RE: [RE][scifinoir2] Adam

2009-06-26 Thread Reece Jennings
HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

  _  

From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Martin Baxter
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 7:45 AM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Cc: Sci Fi; Angela Y Crim
Subject: [RE][scifinoir2] Adam






Now *that* is how you start the morning! :-D







-[ Received Mail Content ]--
Subject : [scifinoir2] Adam
Date : Thu, 25 Jun 2009 20:00:17 -0700 (PDT)
From : Augustus Augustus jazzynupe_...@yahoo.com
To : Sci Fi scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Cc : Angela Y Crim hisamazo...@yahoo.com

God said, 'Adam, I 
Want you to do 
Something for Me.' 

Adam said, 'Gladly, 
Lord, what do You 
Want me to do?' 

God said, 'Go down 
Into that valley.' 

Adam said, 'What's a Valley?' 

God explained it to 
Him. Then God said, 
'Cross the river.' 

Adam said, 'What's a River?' 

God explained that 
To him, and then said, 
'Go over to the hill' 

Adam said, 'What is a 
Hill?' 

So, God explained to 
Adam what a hill was. 

He told Adam, 'On 
The other side of the 
Hill you will find a 
Cave.' 

Adam said, 'What's a 
Cave?' 

After God explained, 
He said, 'In the cave 
You will find a woman.' 

Adam said, 'What's a Woman?' 

So God explained 
That to him, too. 

Then, God said, 'I 
Want you to 
Reproduce.' 

Adam said, 'How do 
I do that?' 

God first said (under 
His breath), 'Geez.' 

And then, just like Everything else, God Explained that to 
Adam, as well. 

So, Adam goes 
down 
Into the valley, 

Across the river, and 
Over the hill, into the 
Cave, and finds the 
Woman. 

Then, in about five Minutes, he was back. 

God, His patience 
Wearing thin, said 
Angrily, 'What is it 
Now?' 

And Adam said 

* 

* 

  
* 

* 

* 

  
  

'What's a headache?' 







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RE: [RE][scifinoir2] Is Octavia Butler underrated in mainstream sci-fi press?

2009-06-26 Thread Reece Jennings
You have hit my passion...Blacks in WWII.  Since my dad was on a few ships
during the War,
including the USS Colorado, and the Ajax, and he was in the Philippine
campaign, I developed
a passion for books about how Blacks were treated.  I'm sure I don't have to
tell you about the 761st Tank
Battalion and General Patton, or the 9th and 10th Cavalry, or the 555th
(Triple Nickle) Paratrooper battalion...
 

  _  

From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of votomguy
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 10:52 AM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Is Octavia Butler underrated in mainstream
sci-fi press?





True. I love the hard science/ military scifi books so those were always the
books that I looked for. I got tired of not being able to find hard science/
military scifi books writen by blacks or that have blacks as the main
character (real characters not cheeseballs). I took to studying the Black
presence in WWII and I picked up a couple of books. Alot of males in general
(hey let's face it white guys don't read as much as everybody thinks). I
would love to see another book like Dark Matter come out. It went along way
towards pointing me to Black scifi writers. I always took solace in my
favorite comic writers (Dwayne McDuffie and Christopher Priest). Not only do
they write comics, but they also write comics I can read. 

--- In scifino...@yahoogro mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com ups.com,
Milton Davis mv_media_...@... wrote:

 I do book signings at least once a month. The majority of the books I have
sold have been to black women. I did a book club meeting last year, all
women. I have a book club meeting  sheduled in August, all women. I'm
confident I'll find more black men willing to read my books and I am seeing
more interest among the brothers, especially the young ones. I'm convinced
that when made aware of what's available the brothers will come. I hope I'm
right.
 
 --- On Thu, 6/25/09, votomguy votom...@... wrote:
 
 
 From: votomguy votom...@...
 Subject: Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Is Octavia Butler underrated in mainstream
sci-fi press?
 To: scifino...@yahoogro mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com ups.com
 Date: Thursday, June 25, 2009, 9:07 PM
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Before the hiphop/street novel craze, my mom told me about an article
(this was in the 90s) that said that Publishers refuse to publish books
because black men don't read enough. To which I replied, If they never
publish the books then how will we ever find anything to read. My mom
simply said that maybe publishers don't want black men to read. 
 
 --- In scifino...@yahoogro ups.com, Reece Jennings mcjennings124@ ...
wrote:
 
  It might be a combination of all of that, Milton. Yes, Black Women will
set
  up book
  clubs, and discuss books, etc. But when I mention Sci-Fi to most Black
  Women, and
  even try to get the to read some of Ms. Butler's books, they tend to
  pre-judge and reject
  without looking. So I keep it to myself...except here, of course. I
think
  a lot of women are
  cutting off a vast expanse of great reading by pre-judging SF.
  
  
  _ 
  
  From: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogro ups.com]
On
  Behalf Of Milton Davis
  Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 1:38 PM
  To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com
  Subject: RE: [RE][scifinoir2] Is Octavia Butler underrated in mainstream
  sci-fi press?
  
  
  
  
  
  
  I know a lot a black male fans of Butler. I just seems in my experience
most
  of her fans I've met were black females. But then again that might be
  because black females read a lot more than we brothers.
  
  --- On Thu, 6/25/09, Martin Baxter truthseeker013@ ... wrote:
  
  
  
  
  From: Martin Baxter truthseeker013@ ...
  Subject: RE: [RE][scifinoir2] Is Octavia Butler underrated in mainstream
  sci-fi press?
  To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com
  Date: Thursday, June 25, 2009, 4:37 PM
  
  
  That comprises a graduating class of considerable note.
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  -[ Received Mail Content ]--
  Subject : RE: [RE][scifinoir2] Is Octavia Butler underrated in
mainstream
  sci-fi press?
  Date : Thu, 25 Jun 2009 12:22:52 -0400
  From : Reece Jennings mcjennings124@ yahoo.com
  To : scifinoir2@ yahoogro ups.com
  
  I love her. She's my favorite because of the social aspect of her
writing.. 
  I've been a Black Male all say (peeking to make sure!) 
  
  Of course, we are both 1947 Cancerians, so that might have something to
do 
  with it! :o) 
  
  
  _ 
  
  From: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com [mailto:scifinoir2@ yahoogroups. com]
On 
  Behalf Of Milton Davis 
  Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 7:32 AM 
  To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com 
  Subject: Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Is Octavia Butler underrated in mainstream

  sci-fi press? 
  
  
  
  
  
  
  I know plenty young black science fiction fans that credit Octavia
Butler as
  
  the beacon that led them to science fiction. I'm an old school science 
  fiction fan, raised

RE: [RE][scifinoir2] Is Octavia Butler underrated in mainstream sci-fi press?

2009-06-25 Thread Reece Jennings
I love her.  She's my favorite because of the social aspect of her writing.
I've been a Black Male all say (peeking to make sure!)
 
Of course, we are both 1947 Cancerians, so that might have something to do
with it!  :o)
 

  _  

From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Milton Davis
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 7:32 AM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Is Octavia Butler underrated in mainstream
sci-fi press?






I know plenty young black science fiction fans that credit Octavia Butler as
the beacon that led them to science fiction. I'm an old school science
fiction fan, raised on Assimov, Delany, Herbert and Ellision. I like
Butler's work, but I consider it more social science fiction. She deals more
with relationships and issues rather than the technical aspect of science
fiction, which we all know gets more attention. I think that's the reason
her prose seems to have special appeal to black female science fiction fans.
I enjoyed everything I've read by her but I can't say I'm a fan. She was a
greater writer than I'll probably ever be and got her respect among the
sci/fi elite if not the mainstream.

--- On Wed, 6/24/09, B. Smith daikaij...@yahoo.com wrote:




From: B. Smith daikaij...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Is Octavia Butler underrated in mainstream
sci-fi press?
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, June 24, 2009, 1:19 AM


She's highly regarded but not given the same respect as the legendary hard
sci-fi types. Her work falls into the more literary side of the genre and in
some ways she was more highly regarded outside the genre. 

--- In scifino...@yahoogro
http://us.mc459.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com
ups.com, Martin Baxter truthseeker013@ ... wrote:

 George, it's possible, but I see her lack of props as being more a matter
of the mainstream SF press not knowing what the frell it's doing. IMO,
they've become like the music industry, more interested in the flavor of the
week than actual decent work. When I go to the bookstore and browse the
SF/fantasy shelves, the stuff I see is so derivative as to be embarrassing.
Nine times out of ten, I can figure out what the story inside the covers is
solely by what pose the characters on the cover are striking. Shouldn't be
that easy, even for a guy with my brain.
 
 
 
 
 
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Date : Tue, 23 Jun 2009 10:10:06 -0700 (PDT)
 
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To : scifino...@yahoogro
http://us.mc459.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com
ups.com
 
 
 I've rarely seen her represented in so-called mainstream press.
 
 
 
 
 
 
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RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Jive-talking twin Transformers raise race issues

2009-06-25 Thread Reece Jennings
I hate Harry Potter.  No reason.  I just wanted to say it out loud.  I'm
good now... 

-Original Message-
From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Mike Street
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 2:15 PM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Jive-talking twin Transformers raise race
issues

I'll see Harry Potter cause I'm a big fan and have never been disappointed
by any of the movies.

I'm not sure about GI. Joe. The Barroness has no accent so I'm not sure
about that movie as a whole.

On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 2:04 PM, Augustus Augustusjazzynupe_...@yahoo.com
wrote:


 well, i am still waiting on Harry Potter (go ahead and 
 laughbut i do have an 8 year old and we (both her and i 
 and my wife) have all read the books.  even caught my 17 year son 
 reading them too.  so i am waiting on that one.  also 
 2012...the preview before transformers looked great!  g. i. joe
and the new ice age.  so there is still hope my friend!

 Fate.

 --- On Thu, 6/25/09, Mike Street streetfor...@gmail.com wrote:

 From: Mike Street streetfor...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Jive-talking twin Transformers raise 
 race issues
 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Thursday, June 25, 2009, 1:57 PM

 True but those images are all controlled by white men who are making 
 fun at themselves from all the movies that you named. Our community 
 continues to allow others to control our images, language, and to 
 profit from that with out question. From Bob Johnson to Michael Bay.
 If we find it unacceptable and we should not support them financially 
 they will get the message. So again all an opinion and I haven't seen 
 the movie. But I didn't enjoy the first one at all so I will pass on 
 this one.

 To me this has been a horrible summer movie season.



 On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 1:42 PM, Augustus 
 Augustusjazzynupe_...@yahoo.com wrote:


 Mike,

 to go further with what Sin just wrote, like i said, i watched the 
 movie and totally enjoyed it.  it was a good 2 1/2 hours of pure 
 escapism.  the anthropomorphism that i talked about earlier never 
 crossed into my mind.
 i
 have seen movies that poked fun at white people too.  'Delta Farce' 
 was hilarious to me.   making fun of 'rednecks'.  'Superbad' making 
 fun of white geeks.  stoner movie 'Pineapple Express (which i thought 
 sucked, but a few funny lines)' poked fun at stoner white guys.  
 'step brothers' poking fun at white people.  remember how we all 
 laughed at Ricky Bobby?  we see all types picked at, so yes, 
 sometimes you have to look pass the obvious.  now, before Sin jumps 
 on me, i am not making an apology 4 the characters, but i do believe 
 the people are looking too hard at something.  john turturo (who is 
 in the movie) even makes fun of his self when she pulls off his pants 
 and have on a S7 jock strap.  we (the people in the theater) howled 
 at that scene!
 but again, just my opinion.

 Fate.
 --- On Thu, 6/25/09, sincere1906 sincere1...@gmail.com wrote:

 From: sincere1906 sincere1...@gmail.com
 Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Jive-talking twin Transformers raise race 
 issues
 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Thursday, June 25, 2009, 11:44 AM

 Mike,

 And as you can guess, there is already uproar over the mere mention 
 of racism or at the least racial insensitivity and stereotyping. The 
 game usually works like this: black people (or other people who have 
 faced
 oppression) point out they find something degrading in a film, tv 
 show, etc.
 The maker of the film balks, asserting with righteous indignation 
 that it's absolutely nonsense. With an air of white privilege he/she 
 will assert they have no bias, and then turn the tables on those who 
 are pointing out the perceived racial slight.

 Most of America, ever eager to dismiss black or other grievances, 
 will usually chime in. Those complaining about racial insensitivity 
 will be told to get over it. They'll be told it's all in their 
 heads and that *they* are the racist ones being preoccupied with 
 race. A few famous black apologists will be rolled out to say the 
 black community should be worried about kids with low hanging pants 
 (the scourge of the afrotocracy! ) or the like instead of a mere 
 movie. Some will even come forth and say, sure it's a stereotype-- 
 but it's also true, so that makes it alright! Oh and the Bill Cosby 
 acolytes will naturally blame the rappers--who it seems invented a 
 time machine, went back two centuries, and created all known black
 stereotypes- -forcing unwilling white masses to adopt them.

 So the powerful media mogul/company will be cast as the victim, and 
 the usually oppressed grouping and the few vocal advocates will then 
 be cast as the villains--trying to ruin everyone's fun. It's the old 
 switcheroo
 --and
 its quite old.

 In 1906 when black new yorkers complained about the Bronx Zoo putting 
 an African pygmy in a cage and displaying him as a 

RE: [scifinoir2] Serenity

2009-06-20 Thread Reece Jennings
Will do.  Thanks!

  _  

From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Augustus Augustus
Sent: Friday, June 19, 2009 10:17 PM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Serenity






forget the SciFi channel of it.  grab the DVD and watch it uncut.  i tried 2
watch it on SciFi, but they butchered it with cuts here and there.

Fate.

--- On Fri, 6/19/09, mcjennings...@yahoo.com mcjennings...@yahoo.com
wrote:




From: mcjennings...@yahoo.com mcjennings...@yahoo.com
Subject: [scifinoir2] Serenity
To: SciFi2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, June 19, 2009, 7:15 PM



I just watched this movie on the SciFi channel. I liked it! Anybody else see
it?

Sent via BlackBerry by ATT







RE: [scifinoir2] Serenity

2009-06-20 Thread Reece Jennings
I just rented it from Amazon.  Downloading now on TIVO.

  _  

From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Augustus Augustus
Sent: Friday, June 19, 2009 10:17 PM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Serenity






forget the SciFi channel of it.  grab the DVD and watch it uncut.  i tried 2
watch it on SciFi, but they butchered it with cuts here and there.

Fate.

--- On Fri, 6/19/09, mcjennings...@yahoo.com mcjennings...@yahoo.com
wrote:




From: mcjennings...@yahoo.com mcjennings...@yahoo.com
Subject: [scifinoir2] Serenity
To: SciFi2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, June 19, 2009, 7:15 PM



I just watched this movie on the SciFi channel. I liked it! Anybody else see
it?

Sent via BlackBerry by ATT







RE: [scifinoir2] Serenity

2009-06-20 Thread Reece Jennings
It WAS a refreshing surprise!  

  _  

From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of L Freeman
Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2009 1:52 AM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Serenity






I loved it. It was interesting, the characters were likable, without being
unrealistically heroic. I liked the weird fighting girl, and the government
assassin, and mostly, the jokes. 

I highly recommend it to anyone looking for something a bit different. 

--- On Fri, 6/19/09, Justin Mohareb justinmoha...@gmail.com wrote:




From: Justin Mohareb justinmoha...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Serenity
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, June 19, 2009, 7:20 PM



Or, see if you've got a screening in your town tomorrow and catch it with a
big crowd of fans. 

Justin



On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 10:17 PM, Augustus Augustus jazzynupe_007@
yahoo.com wrote:






forget the SciFi channel of it.  grab the DVD and watch it uncut.  i tried 2
watch it on SciFi, but they butchered it with cuts here and there.

Fate.

--- On Fri, 6/19/09, mcjennings124@ yahoo.com mcjennings124@ yahoo.com
wrote:




From: mcjennings124@ yahoo.com mcjennings124@ yahoo.com
Subject: [scifinoir2] Serenity
To: SciFi2 scifino...@yahoogro ups.com
Date: Friday, June 19, 2009, 7:15 PM 



I just watched this movie on the SciFi channel. I liked it! Anybody else see
it?

Sent via BlackBerry by ATT







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RE: [scifinoir2] Serenity

2009-06-20 Thread Reece Jennings
That's ok.  I don't buy.  It's 2.99 to rent.  That's fine for me!  :o)
 

  _  

From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Martin Baxter
Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2009 8:20 AM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Serenity






Reece, wish I'd been here sooner! It's $12 at Target, as of two weeks ago..







-[ Received Mail Content ]--
Subject : RE: [scifinoir2] Serenity
Date : Sat, 20 Jun 2009 06:57:25 -0400
From : Reece Jennings mcjennings...@yahoo.com
To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com

I just rented it from Amazon. Downloading now on TIVO. 

_ 

From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Augustus Augustus 
Sent: Friday, June 19, 2009 10:17 PM 
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Serenity 






forget the SciFi channel of it. grab the DVD and watch it uncut. i tried 2 
watch it on SciFi, but they butchered it with cuts here and there. 

Fate. 

--- On Fri, 6/19/09, mcjennings...@yahoo.com 
wrote: 




From: mcjennings...@yahoo.com 
Subject: [scifinoir2] Serenity 
To: SciFi2 
Date: Friday, June 19, 2009, 7:15 PM 



I just watched this movie on the SciFi channel. I liked it! Anybody else see

it? 

Sent via BlackBerry by ATT 










http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQdwk8Yntds 




RE: [scifinoir2] Re: The Disposible Negro in sci-fi list

2009-06-19 Thread Reece Jennings
Now THAT was funny!!!  HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

  _  

From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Martin Baxter
Sent: Friday, June 19, 2009 8:15 AM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Re: The Disposible Negro in sci-fi list






And stop me if you think I'm having too much fun here.







-[ Received Mail Content ]--
Subject : RE: [scifinoir2] Re: The Disposible Negro in sci-fi list
Date : Thu, 18 Jun 2009 21:10:16 -0400
From : Reece Jennings mcjennings...@yahoo.com
To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com

I was 38 when I started, so I sowed all of my oats with ATT before that! 

_ 

From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Martin Baxter 
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2009 5:52 PM 
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: The Disposible Negro in sci-fi list 






Well, Gene was on the job out in L.A. Reece... got any stories you'd like to

share? ;-D 







-[ Received Mail Content ]-- 
Subject : Re: [scifinoir2] Re: The Disposible Negro in sci-fi list 
Date : Thu, 18 Jun 2009 09:51:29 -0500 
From : Omari Confer 
To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 

I didnt know how much of a player Gene was. 

c w m 

On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 11:42 PM, Keith Johnson 
wrote: 

 
 
 Yeah, Roddenberry was dating Nichelle Nichols and Majel Barrett at the 
same 
 time. Indeed, Nichols related that Roddenberry used to take her riding on 
 his motorcycle. One day he said, I need you to meet someone. They drove 
to 
 a house, Gene walks up and knocks on the door, and Majel answers. Gene 
 introduces the ladies, and Nichols says she realized at that moment he was


 not only two-timing her, but was going to marry Barrett. (Actually, he may


 have been three-timing her. He had a previous wife of nearly three decades


 whom he divorced sometime during this period, so he may have started 
affairs 
 with Nichols and Barrett while still being married. Not sure). 
 
 A sad final chapter in this strange tale. Evidently Roddenberry's last 
 years were marked by increasingly ill health. not sure what he had, but 
it's 
 why he had to relinguish creative control of The Next Generation. At any 
 rate, in those final years, Gene had some mental difficulties. At a big 
 party given in his honor---a party in which most of the OS Trek alumni and


 showrunners were in attendance--Gene appears in a highly agitated and 
 confused state. In front of all the guests--including his wife 
 Majel--Roddenberry walks over to Nichele Nichols and confesses his undying


 love for her. You're the one I really loved, Nichelle! I should have 
 married you, Nichelle! he exclaimed. 
 
 Nichols had to keep her composure and tell the crowd that Gene was just 
ill 
 and didn't know what he said. 
 
 I've read this account more than once. Hope it's not just an urban legend.


 Don't know if it was recorded in Nichols' official autobiography. 
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Martin Baxter 
 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2009 8:27:40 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: The Disposible Negro in sci-fi list 
 
 
 
 None whatsoever. Roddenberry recognized it by putting her right behind 
 KEROOK on the Bridge, so that she (or at least *parts*) of


 her made it in shot. And, if the tales I've heard are true, Roddenberry 
did 
 *more* than just recognize her beauty... he *appreciated* it in a way 
 *all* men wish they could've. 
 
 
 
 
 -[ Received Mail Content ]-- 
 *Subject : *Re: [scifinoir2] Re: The Disposible Negro in sci-fi list 
 *Date : *Tue, 16 Jun 2009 12:06:29 + 
 *From : *mcjennings...@yahoo.com 
 *To : *SciFi2 
 
 No chauvinism in recognizing beauty. I was flipping channels (a chore 
 without a remote), and I saw her at that console. I was just back from 18 
 months in the Philippines, and I was appreciating Black Women. And here is


 Uhura. Lawd! 
 Sent via BlackBerry by ATT 
 
 -Original Message- 
 From: C.W. Badie 
 
 Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 02:51:39 
 To: 
 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: The Disposible Negro in sci-fi list 
 
 
 And consistently the most beautiful babe on the show...pardon the 
 chauvinism, but she was gorgeous! 
 
 --- On Thu, 6/11/09, Adrianne Brennan wrote: 
 
 
 From: Adrianne Brennan 
 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: The Disposible Negro in sci-fi list 
 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
 Date: Thursday, June 11, 2009, 12:26 PM 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 I dunno, I've always thought Uhura kicked ass. :D 
 
 ~ Where love and magic meet ~ 
 http://www.adrianne brennan.com 
 Experience the magic of Blood of the Dark Moon: http://www.adrianne 
 brennan.com/ botdm.html 
 Take a bite out of Blood and Mint Chocolates: http://www.adrianne 
 brennan.com/ bamc.html 
 Dare to take The Oath in this erotic fantasy series: http://www.adrianne 
 brennan.com/ books.html# the_oath 
 
 
 
 On Thu, Jun 11, 2009

RE: [scifinoir2] Re: The Disposible Negro in sci-fi list

2009-06-19 Thread Reece Jennings
HH!!!  LOLLOL!!!  Actually more like TO's, or Teletype Operators!  I
was a Teletype Repairman.
Picked up that skill from the Air Force.  The OTHER skills I picked up from
TO's!!   A, the life of a 
hands-on Technician!

  _  

From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Martin Baxter
Sent: Friday, June 19, 2009 8:14 AM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Re: The Disposible Negro in sci-fi list






So, there are some CSRs out there with tales to tell, eh? ;-D







-[ Received Mail Content ]--
Subject : RE: [scifinoir2] Re: The Disposible Negro in sci-fi list
Date : Thu, 18 Jun 2009 21:10:16 -0400
From : Reece Jennings mcjennings...@yahoo.com
To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com

I was 38 when I started, so I sowed all of my oats with ATT before that! 

_ 

From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Martin Baxter 
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2009 5:52 PM 
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: The Disposible Negro in sci-fi list 






Well, Gene was on the job out in L.A. Reece... got any stories you'd like to

share? ;-D 







-[ Received Mail Content ]-- 
Subject : Re: [scifinoir2] Re: The Disposible Negro in sci-fi list 
Date : Thu, 18 Jun 2009 09:51:29 -0500 
From : Omari Confer 
To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 

I didnt know how much of a player Gene was. 

c w m 

On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 11:42 PM, Keith Johnson 
wrote: 

 
 
 Yeah, Roddenberry was dating Nichelle Nichols and Majel Barrett at the 
same 
 time. Indeed, Nichols related that Roddenberry used to take her riding on 
 his motorcycle. One day he said, I need you to meet someone. They drove 
to 
 a house, Gene walks up and knocks on the door, and Majel answers. Gene 
 introduces the ladies, and Nichols says she realized at that moment he was


 not only two-timing her, but was going to marry Barrett. (Actually, he may


 have been three-timing her. He had a previous wife of nearly three decades


 whom he divorced sometime during this period, so he may have started 
affairs 
 with Nichols and Barrett while still being married. Not sure). 
 
 A sad final chapter in this strange tale. Evidently Roddenberry's last 
 years were marked by increasingly ill health. not sure what he had, but 
it's 
 why he had to relinguish creative control of The Next Generation. At any 
 rate, in those final years, Gene had some mental difficulties. At a big 
 party given in his honor---a party in which most of the OS Trek alumni and


 showrunners were in attendance--Gene appears in a highly agitated and 
 confused state. In front of all the guests--including his wife 
 Majel--Roddenberry walks over to Nichele Nichols and confesses his undying


 love for her. You're the one I really loved, Nichelle! I should have 
 married you, Nichelle! he exclaimed. 
 
 Nichols had to keep her composure and tell the crowd that Gene was just 
ill 
 and didn't know what he said. 
 
 I've read this account more than once. Hope it's not just an urban legend.


 Don't know if it was recorded in Nichols' official autobiography. 
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Martin Baxter 
 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2009 8:27:40 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: The Disposible Negro in sci-fi list 
 
 
 
 None whatsoever. Roddenberry recognized it by putting her right behind 
 KEROOK on the Bridge, so that she (or at least *parts*) of


 her made it in shot. And, if the tales I've heard are true, Roddenberry 
did 
 *more* than just recognize her beauty... he *appreciated* it in a way 
 *all* men wish they could've. 
 
 
 
 
 -[ Received Mail Content ]-- 
 *Subject : *Re: [scifinoir2] Re: The Disposible Negro in sci-fi list 
 *Date : *Tue, 16 Jun 2009 12:06:29 + 
 *From : *mcjennings...@yahoo.com 
 *To : *SciFi2 
 
 No chauvinism in recognizing beauty. I was flipping channels (a chore 
 without a remote), and I saw her at that console. I was just back from 18 
 months in the Philippines, and I was appreciating Black Women. And here is


 Uhura. Lawd! 
 Sent via BlackBerry by ATT 
 
 -Original Message- 
 From: C.W. Badie 
 
 Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 02:51:39 
 To: 
 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: The Disposible Negro in sci-fi list 
 
 
 And consistently the most beautiful babe on the show...pardon the 
 chauvinism, but she was gorgeous! 
 
 --- On Thu, 6/11/09, Adrianne Brennan wrote: 
 
 
 From: Adrianne Brennan 
 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: The Disposible Negro in sci-fi list 
 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
 Date: Thursday, June 11, 2009, 12:26 PM 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 I dunno, I've always thought Uhura kicked ass. :D 
 
 ~ Where love and magic meet ~ 
 http://www.adrianne brennan.com 
 Experience the magic of Blood of the Dark Moon: http://www.adrianne 
 brennan.com/ botdm.html 
 Take a bite out of Blood and Mint

RE: [scifinoir2] Can't Stop the Serenity fundraiser for Equality Now

2009-06-19 Thread Reece Jennings
Cool!  Thanks, Justin!

  _  

From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Justin Mohareb
Sent: Friday, June 19, 2009 9:08 PM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [scifinoir2] Can't Stop the Serenity fundraiser for Equality Now





http://www.cantstop http://www.cantstoptheserenity.com/ theserenity.com/

Just a quick note that this weekend and next weekend will see charity
screenings of Joss Whedon's Serenity.

This is the fourth year fans of Firefly  Serenity have gathered to
raise funds for Equality now.

You can see the events here:

http://www.cantstop http://www.cantstoptheserenity.com/events/
theserenity.com/events/

You can buy tickets at the door. I'm going to be attending the
Toronto showing along with several hundred other browncoats.

Justin

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RE: [scifinoir2] Re: The Disposible Negro in sci-fi list

2009-06-18 Thread Reece Jennings
I was 38 when I started, so I sowed all of my oats with ATT before that!

  _  

From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Martin Baxter
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2009 5:52 PM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: The Disposible Negro in sci-fi list






Well, Gene was on the job out in L.A. Reece... got any stories you'd like to
share? ;-D







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Date : Thu, 18 Jun 2009 09:51:29 -0500
From : Omari Confer clockwork...@gmail.com
To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com

I didnt know how much of a player Gene was. 

c w m 

On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 11:42 PM, Keith Johnson 
wrote: 

 
 
 Yeah, Roddenberry was dating Nichelle Nichols and Majel Barrett at the
same 
 time. Indeed, Nichols related that Roddenberry used to take her riding on 
 his motorcycle. One day he said, I need you to meet someone. They drove
to 
 a house, Gene walks up and knocks on the door, and Majel answers. Gene 
 introduces the ladies, and Nichols says she realized at that moment he was

 not only two-timing her, but was going to marry Barrett. (Actually, he may

 have been three-timing her. He had a previous wife of nearly three decades

 whom he divorced sometime during this period, so he may have started
affairs 
 with Nichols and Barrett while still being married. Not sure). 
 
 A sad final chapter in this strange tale. Evidently Roddenberry's last 
 years were marked by increasingly ill health. not sure what he had, but
it's 
 why he had to relinguish creative control of The Next Generation. At any 
 rate, in those final years, Gene had some mental difficulties. At a big 
 party given in his honor---a party in which most of the OS Trek alumni and

 showrunners were in attendance--Gene appears in a highly agitated and 
 confused state. In front of all the guests--including his wife 
 Majel--Roddenberry walks over to Nichele Nichols and confesses his undying

 love for her. You're the one I really loved, Nichelle! I should have 
 married you, Nichelle! he exclaimed. 
 
 Nichols had to keep her composure and tell the crowd that Gene was just
ill 
 and didn't know what he said. 
 
 I've read this account more than once. Hope it's not just an urban legend.

 Don't know if it was recorded in Nichols' official autobiography. 
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Martin Baxter 
 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2009 8:27:40 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: The Disposible Negro in sci-fi list 
 
 
 
 None whatsoever. Roddenberry recognized it by putting her right behind 
 KEROOK on the Bridge, so that she (or at least *parts*) of

 her made it in shot. And, if the tales I've heard are true, Roddenberry
did 
 *more* than just recognize her beauty... he *appreciated* it in a way 
 *all* men wish they could've. 
 
 
 
 
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 *Subject : *Re: [scifinoir2] Re: The Disposible Negro in sci-fi list 
 *Date : *Tue, 16 Jun 2009 12:06:29 + 
 *From : *mcjennings...@yahoo.com 
 *To : *SciFi2 
 
 No chauvinism in recognizing beauty. I was flipping channels (a chore 
 without a remote), and I saw her at that console. I was just back from 18 
 months in the Philippines, and I was appreciating Black Women. And here is

 Uhura. Lawd! 
 Sent via BlackBerry by ATT 
 
 -Original Message- 
 From: C.W. Badie 
 
 Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 02:51:39 
 To: 
 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: The Disposible Negro in sci-fi list 
 
 
 And consistently the most beautiful babe on the show...pardon the 
 chauvinism, but she was gorgeous! 
 
 --- On Thu, 6/11/09, Adrianne Brennan wrote: 
 
 
 From: Adrianne Brennan 
 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: The Disposible Negro in sci-fi list 
 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
 Date: Thursday, June 11, 2009, 12:26 PM 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 I dunno, I've always thought Uhura kicked ass. :D 
 
 ~ Where love and magic meet ~ 
 http://www.adrianne brennan.com 
 Experience the magic of Blood of the Dark Moon: http://www.adrianne 
 brennan.com/ botdm.html 
 Take a bite out of Blood and Mint Chocolates: http://www.adrianne 
 brennan.com/ bamc.html 
 Dare to take The Oath in this erotic fantasy series: http://www.adrianne 
 brennan.com/ books.html# the_oath 
 
 
 
 On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 1:22 PM, ravenadal wrote: 
 
 Beware of the Disposable Negro Effect which is akin to the butterfly 
 effect. You may think a negro is disposable but then you remove them and 
 all heck breaks loose. I mean haven't you seen Douglass Turner Ward's Day

 of Absence where all the negroes disappear one day and all the white
folks 
 don't have a clue as to what to do? 
 
 I mean take something as innocuous as Lt. Uhura on Star Trek. You would 
 think she was a disposable negro, afterall, anybody can answer the phone, 
 but it totally ignores the fact that her showing up on the 

RE: [scifinoir2] comcast cable signal drops?

2009-06-15 Thread Reece Jennings
Yeah.  Snow is a good thing when it comes to that.  At least with an analog
signal, you get
snow.

  _  

From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Mr. Worf
Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 2:03 AM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] comcast cable signal drops?





The broadcast just stops. The picture looks like it is on pause, or the
screen goes black. In the worse case you will see signal lost. 



On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 9:04 PM, Reece Jennings mcjennings124@
mailto:mcjennings...@yahoo.com yahoo.com wrote:




I live in the city of Hartford, and most of Connecticut is pretty well
covered.
I don't know what signal loss is...

  _  

From: scifino...@yahoogro mailto:scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com ups.com
[mailto:scifino...@yahoogro mailto:scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com ups.com] On
Behalf Of Mr. Worf
Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2009 10:52 PM
To: scifino...@yahoogro mailto:scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com ups.com 

Subject: [scifinoir2] comcast cable signal drops?



In my area signal loss happens multiple times a day now. Basically it is
complete signal loss on all channels anywhere from a few seconds to a few
minutes. It happened during the playoffs a couple of years ago and I missed
the last 30 seconds of the game!!! Do you have this problem where you live?








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RE: [RE][scifinoir2] Fwd: A Fond Farewell to Analog TV

2009-06-14 Thread Reece Jennings
I hear you, Martin.  Nothing like hands-on to take yourself a few things.
When I taught
electronics in 1977 for the NJ Bell Telephone Company, those experiences
from the late
'60s came in handy.  I was teaching integrated circuits and Boolean Algebra.
My students
were mostly college-grad white women hired under Equal Employment
Opportunity.They were
going to supervise grizzled, 20 - 30 year tel. co.  Switch people being
trained on new Electronic
Switching Systems.  Man, what a mess!  

  _  

From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Martin Baxter
Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2009 9:09 PM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [RE][scifinoir2] Fwd: A Fond Farewell to Analog TV






Reece, I didn't see any of those transistors first-hand, but I read many of
the manuals (my great-Uncle Sam and a couple of my older cousins were in the
Air Force as well, studying electronics).  Led me to disassemble many a
radio in various houses I found myself in, and two TVs. My paternal
grandmother, Deity rest her well, got me an old TV specifically to tear
apart.







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Subject : RE: [RE][scifinoir2] Fwd: A Fond Farewell to Analog TV
Date : Sat, 13 Jun 2009 12:26:27 -0400
From : Reece Jennings mcjennings...@yahoo.com
To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA! They're still around, disguised as HDTVs with their 
converters. Heck ALL of mine 
are Big-a$$ CRTs! I don't plan to change them, either! 

When I was in Air Force electronics school in 1967, we learned about how 
CRTs worked, then we learned about 
transistors. THAT was some transition. Transistors looked like 3-legged 
spiders, and they averaged a size of 
about a quarter to a fifty-cent piece. I remember NO TV ( I was 5), the 
transition to color. People are slow to change 
even in the face of deadlines! LOL! 

_ 

From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Martin Baxter 
Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 3:15 PM 
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Subject: [RE][scifinoir2] Fwd: A Fond Farewell to Analog TV 






I'm gonna miss those big-a$$ cathode-ray tubes, personally... ;-) 







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Date : Fri, 12 Jun 2009 13:48:33 -0400 
From : brent wodehouse 
To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 

http://digg.com/d1teCg 






http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQdwk8Yntds 







http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQdwk8Yntds 




RE: [scifinoir2] comcast cable signal drops?

2009-06-14 Thread Reece Jennings
I live in the city of Hartford, and most of Connecticut is pretty well
covered.
I don't know what signal loss is...

  _  

From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Mr. Worf
Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2009 10:52 PM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [scifinoir2] comcast cable signal drops?





In my area signal loss happens multiple times a day now. Basically it is
complete signal loss on all channels anywhere from a few seconds to a few
minutes. It happened during the playoffs a couple of years ago and I missed
the last 30 seconds of the game!!! Do you have this problem where you live?






RE: [RE][scifinoir2] Fwd: A Fond Farewell to Analog TV

2009-06-13 Thread Reece Jennings
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!  They're still around, disguised as HDTVs with their
converters.  Heck ALL of mine
are Big-a$$ CRTs!  I don't plan to change them, either!
 
When I was in Air Force electronics school in 1967, we learned about how
CRTs worked, then we learned about
transistors.  THAT was some transition.  Transistors looked like 3-legged
spiders, and they averaged a size of
about a quarter to a fifty-cent piece.  I remember NO TV ( I was 5), the
transition to color.  People are slow to change
even in the face of deadlines!  LOL!
 
  _  

From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Martin Baxter
Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 3:15 PM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [RE][scifinoir2] Fwd: A Fond Farewell to Analog TV






I'm gonna miss those big-a$$ cathode-ray tubes, personally... ;-)







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Date : Fri, 12 Jun 2009 13:48:33 -0400
From : brent wodehouse brent_wodeho...@thefence.us
To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com

http://digg.com/d1teCg 






http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQdwk8Yntds 




RE: [RE][scifinoir2] Fwd: A Fond Farewell to Analog TV

2009-06-13 Thread Reece Jennings
Yes!  A, the good old days!

  _  

From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Keith Johnson
Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2009 5:28 PM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Fwd: A Fond Farewell to Analog TV






I remember transisters the size of pencil erasers, but big as a coin??? Wow!
Of course I remember when integrated circuits went from less than a dozen to
dozens, hundreds, thousands, than millions of transistors on a single board.

 I had an electronics kit from Radio Shack that gave me many hours of fun. I
had those bulky walkie-talkies when I was a kid, and I sure remember
watching with interest when the TV repairman (remember when we had those???)
pulled out the guts of the TV. Man those tubes were fascinating to me.
Remember taking a tube out of the TV and going to the grocery store and
plugging it into a tester to see if it was good? How about the days of
giving the TV a few moments to warm up before the picture appeared?


- Original Message -
From: Reece Jennings mcjennings...@yahoo.com
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2009 12:26:27 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: RE: [RE][scifinoir2] Fwd: A Fond Farewell to Analog TV





HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!  They're still around, disguised as HDTVs with their
converters.  Heck ALL of mine
are Big-a$$ CRTs!  I don't plan to change them, either!
 
When I was in Air Force electronics school in 1967, we learned about how
CRTs worked, then we learned about
transistors.  THAT was some transition.  Transistors looked like 3-legged
spiders, and they averaged a size of
about a quarter to a fifty-cent piece.  I remember NO TV ( I was 5), the
transition to color.  People are slow to change
even in the face of deadlines!  LOL!
 
  _  

From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Martin Baxter
Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 3:15 PM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [RE][scifinoir2] Fwd: A Fond Farewell to Analog TV




I'm gonna miss those big-a$$ cathode-ray tubes, personally... ;-)







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Subject : [scifinoir2] Fwd: A Fond Farewell to Analog TV
Date : Fri, 12 Jun 2009 13:48:33 -0400
From : brent wodehouse brent_wodeho...@thefence.us
To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com

http://digg.com/d1teCg 






http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQdwk8Yntds 




RE: [RE][scifinoir2] Hulu--Who Knew?

2009-06-07 Thread Reece Jennings
It must depend on the provider's techs.  I had an intermittent problem with
mine about a year ago.  3 techs came, reran wiring
from the pole to my house, put in new inside wiring, and completely tested
everything.  I haven't had a problem since.  Not only
that, but I pay about 111.00 for phone, TV, and internet.  I'm good with
them!  I used to say I love ComCast just to get you guys
going, but I DO respect the problems you have that haven't been resolved.
But a word of caution before you jump ship.
 
If you're going to ATT for the 3 services, unless ATT has bought The Dish,
you're going to have billing and servicing issues.
My experience has been that having 2 vendors allows one to blame the other.
Both good services.  Heck, my cell services, including
wireless broadband, are ATT.  So I'm not knocking them.  I'm just
saying...careful of the vendor finger-pointing.

  _  

From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Martin Baxter
Sent: Saturday, June 06, 2009 5:58 PM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Hulu--Who Knew?






Keith, I'll say the same. The only reason 'm still stuck with Comcrap is
because the bill's not in my name, and the name in question refuses to pick
up the phone and cancel the service. If my name were on the mortgage (as it
was five years ago, before I hit my own hard times), I'd get my own hook-up
with DirectTV.







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Date : Sat, 6 Jun 2009 20:35:18 + (UTC)
From : Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net
To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com



Comcast has been horrible, and I say that as I'm using them... 


- Original Message - 
From: Mr. Worf 
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, June 6, 2009 2:23:35 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Hulu--Who Knew? 








I think that it must happen eventually. Where I am they have it on buses and
the other usual places like the library etc. The police have their own
network as well. The cable companies are trying to break the back of the
consumer by charging the maximum amount that we can bare. If we all drop
comcast they will be forced to stand up and pay attention. 

One of the things about comcast and other big companies that bugs me is that
they were about to cancel access to several networks during last christmas
break. Can you imagine the chaos being on christmas break and little kids
not being able to watch cartoons? (they were going to pull nickeloden,
sprout and others) Comcast suggested a phone campaign and they got close to
a million calls to keep the shows on the air. Purely manipulation on
comcast's part. 




On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 7:40 AM, Keith Johnson  keithbjohn...@comcast.net 
wrote: 






The free wireless nationwide is a great idea, one I support fully. over the
last few years, several cities tried to institute such a
program--Philadelphia among them. What happened? The telecom and cable
giants cried foul! saying that free metropolitan wifi was unfair
competition for them.  In Pennsylvania, the businesses lobbied the state
legislature successfully, and helped squash the deal. 

It's extremely unfortunate and frustrating, because Philly's planned was
intended for more than just givig wifi coverage to coffee shops and
bookstores near colleges or upper middle class neighborhoods. The goal was
really to blanket all areas of the city, especially the inner city areas
where the poor and people of color lived who might not be able to afford a
monthly broadband bill for Internet. (Or, who had that at home, but couldn't
afford the fees to pay for Internet access away from home). 

I understand making a profit, but it really angered me that this plan was
killed. Major cities all over the country ended up fighting the same battle,
and mostly losing to big business, who felt they'd lose all income as people
would cancel home Internet subscriptions and simply ride the free wifi. That
was wrong for many reasons. One, the signals wouldn't blanket entire
metropolitan areas in that way. Basically, away from downtown areas you'd be
back to the same thing. People living in the suburbs or most outlying areas
would still need to buy internet service for their homes. Second, even if
you coiuld ride a public signal, depending on how far you're living from the
WAP (Wireless Access Point), the signal degradation could lead to major
speed reduction. You might find it's simply too slow to do major surfing and
movie downloading at home.  

A pity is that most Americans don't even know that this fierce battle was
being waged in recent years.  They tend to think the crazy patchwork system
we have now--finding wifi where you can in coffee shops, bookstores, college
campuses, the odd restaurant, etc.--is normal. It drives me crazy. When I
was laid off last year, I made a concerted effort to get out of the house so
I didn't get overcome by depression. I'd 

RE: [scifinoir2] The 25 Women Who Shook Sci-Fi

2009-06-07 Thread Reece Jennings
Martin, I own 2 HP laptops, a Pavilion HP desktop, and 2 HP printers.  The
only machines I have owned 
since 1996 have been HPs bought at huge discounts from Sam's Club.  The 3
machines are on my
wireless network.  The only problem I have had has been VISTA (PTOOO!).  I
have Microsoft OneCare
for firewall, Virus protection, and everything security involved.  It even
set up my wireless network and
password protected it.  I'm happy.  

  _  

From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Martin Baxter
Sent: Saturday, June 06, 2009 6:05 PM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] The 25 Women Who Shook Sci-Fi






Keith, I've never owned one of those pieces of crap personally. During the
two years I worked for the Virginia mental health care system (from the
outside in, lest anyone wonder), I was tasked with transferring datafiles
from an HP 100 mainframe to an HP 220 or 250 (not sure, because I didn't
sleep much in those days, psych trauma being the bear it is). The newer
system was state-of-the-art touch screen tech, meaning that  anytime that
anyTHING touched the screen, from an odd eraser stroke while regarding a
dataline to a fly alighting on the screen, everything would auto-save,
costing me ten minutes each time. And, as I'm told is still the case with HP
printers, you couldn't turn the things off. If the power so much as blinked,
say goodbye to a day's work.

No thanks.




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Subject : Re: [scifinoir2] The 25 Women Who Shook Sci-Fi
Date : Sat, 6 Jun 2009 20:26:41 + (UTC)
From : Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net
To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com



What kind of HP's did y'all have? My first storebought PC was an HP Pavilion
7270, purchased way back in 1996 or so. It ran for over twelve years with no
real problems, until I simply turned it off. Now, it wasn't exactly
upgradeable. There was only so much RAM it could handle. But that was
standard for many PCs of that era. Working on it was a bit of a pain because
it had that old daughterboard configuration (a separate board inside the PC
that sat underneath the main motherboard). It was hard to move around
inside, and the two boards had to be decoupled for major work. But still, I
was able to upgrade RAM, add a second hard drive, tape backup, and even a
USB card.  It was a good computer. 


- Original Message - 
From: Martin Baxter 
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, June 6, 2009 9:06:48 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] The 25 Women Who Shook Sci-Fi 








And, if I may add, your HP couldn't have suicided, because it would have to
have a *soul* to have accomplished that. 






-[ Received Mail Content ]-- 
Subject : Re: [scifinoir2] The 25 Women Who Shook Sci-Fi 
Date : Fri, 5 Jun 2009 21:12:31 -0700 (PDT) 
From : C.W. Badie 
To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 

Well, I have two excuses...The first is my HP suicided over a year ago and I
could not afford to replace the motherboard for fear my son would eat me if
I stopped feeding him...The other is I am a fledgling carpenter looking for
a journeyman to study my craft under (you can stop snickering
Martin!)plus I've been doing handyman stuff to make ends meet while I
dream about being a cabinet maker one day...(Okay, just go ahead and finish
laughing, Martin...you look a bit undignified with tears running down your
face...) 

--- On Fri, 6/5/09, Keith Johnson wrote: 


From: Keith Johnson 
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] The 25 Women Who Shook Sci-Fi 
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Date: Friday, June 5, 2009, 10:47 PM 



#yiv305341415 p {margin:0;} 

Agreed. And where you been man?! 

- Original Message - 
From: C.W. Badie 
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Friday, June 5, 2009 4:48:39 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] The 25 Women Who Shook Sci-Fi 





OKay...It's obvious that this was written, if nothing else, in the mentality
of some young boy whoes eyes are being influenced by the testosterone
coursing through his veins...BUT...The female marionette is weirding my out
in that respect... 

--- On Tue, 6/2/09, Tracey de Morsella wrote: 


From: Tracey de Morsella 
Subject: [scifinoir2] The 25 Women Who Shook Sci-Fi 
To: Aradia (Rae) Corenti , scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, ggs...@yahoo.com,
cinque3...@verizon.net, 'Curtis, Jr.' , 'Sincere' , 'julia demorsella'

Date: Tuesday, June 2, 2009, 6:09 PM 






http://totalscifion line.com/ features/ 3566-the- 25-women- who-shook-
sci-fi 
The sci-fi and fantasy genres have been marked by many iconic heroines. Some
are striking for their leadership and bravery, others for their incredible
sexiness, many for both. Following lengthy debate, Total Sci-Fi now reveals
the 25 most important SF  fantasy heroines of all time. We've limited
ourselves to TV and film - SF and fantasy literature probably warrants a
further list all of its own - and in those instances 

RE: [scifinoir2] The 25 Women Who Shook Sci-Fi

2009-06-07 Thread Reece Jennings
I heard about it!  Can I get a copy?  Is it on Microsoft's sites?

  _  

From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of wlro...@aol.com
Sent: Sunday, June 07, 2009 11:08 PM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] The 25 Women Who Shook Sci-Fi






I have had really not too many problems with Vista other then like you have
said or did not was the crashing. Which I have heard with the sp2 that issue
has been solved. For the most part right now I am using Windows 7 RC. I have
to say I love it more so then Windows Vista. Have you tried it or heard
about it?
--Lavender

From: Reece Jennings mailto:mcjennings...@yahoo.com  
Sent: Sunday, June 07, 2009 9:46 PM
To: scifino...@yahoogro mailto:scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com ups.com 
Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] The 25 Women Who Shook Sci-Fi

Martin, I own 2 HP laptops, a Pavilion HP desktop, and 2 HP printers.  The
only machines I have owned 
since 1996 have been HPs bought at huge discounts from Sam's Club.  The 3
machines are on my
wireless network.  The only problem I have had has been VISTA (PTOOO!).  I
have Microsoft OneCare
for firewall, Virus protection, and everything security involved.  It even
set up my wireless network and
password protected it.  I'm happy.  

  _  

From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Martin Baxter
Sent: Saturday, June 06, 2009 6:05 PM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] The 25 Women Who Shook Sci-Fi




Keith, I've never owned one of those pieces of crap personally. During the
two years I worked for the Virginia mental health care system (from the
outside in, lest anyone wonder), I was tasked with transferring datafiles
from an HP 100 mainframe to an HP 220 or 250 (not sure, because I didn't
sleep much in those days, psych trauma being the bear it is). The newer
system was state-of-the-art touch screen tech, meaning that  anytime that
anyTHING touched the screen, from an odd eraser stroke while regarding a
dataline to a fly alighting on the screen, everything would auto-save,
costing me ten minutes each time. And, as I'm told is still the case with HP
printers, you couldn't turn the things off. If the power so much as blinked,
say goodbye to a day's work.

No thanks.




-[ Received Mail Content ]--
Subject : Re: [scifinoir2] The 25 Women Who Shook Sci-Fi
Date : Sat, 6 Jun 2009 20:26:41 + (UTC)
From : Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net
To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com



What kind of HP's did y'all have? My first storebought PC was an HP Pavilion
7270, purchased way back in 1996 or so. It ran for over twelve years with no
real problems, until I simply turned it off. Now, it wasn't exactly
upgradeable. There was only so much RAM it could handle. But that was
standard for many PCs of that era. Working on it was a bit of a pain because
it had that old daughterboard configuration (a separate board inside the PC
that sat underneath the main motherboard). It was hard to move around
inside, and the two boards had to be decoupled for major work. But still, I
was able to upgrade RAM, add a second hard drive, tape backup, and even a
USB card.  It was a good computer. 


- Original Message - 
From: Martin Baxter 
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, June 6, 2009 9:06:48 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] The 25 Women Who Shook Sci-Fi 








And, if I may add, your HP couldn't have suicided, because it would have to
have a *soul* to have accomplished that. 






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Subject : Re: [scifinoir2] The 25 Women Who Shook Sci-Fi 
Date : Fri, 5 Jun 2009 21:12:31 -0700 (PDT) 
From : C.W. Badie 
To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 

Well, I have two excuses...The first is my HP suicided over a year ago and I
could not afford to replace the motherboard for fear my son would eat me if
I stopped feeding him...The other is I am a fledgling carpenter looking for
a journeyman to study my craft under (you can stop snickering
Martin!)plus I've been doing handyman stuff to make ends meet while I
dream about being a cabinet maker one day...(Okay, just go ahead and finish
laughing, Martin...you look a bit undignified with tears running down your
face...) 

--- On Fri, 6/5/09, Keith Johnson wrote: 


From: Keith Johnson 
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] The 25 Women Who Shook Sci-Fi 
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Date: Friday, June 5, 2009, 10:47 PM 



#yiv305341415 p {margin:0;} 

Agreed. And where you been man?! 

- Original Message - 
From: C.W. Badie 
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Friday, June 5, 2009 4:48:39 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] The 25 Women Who Shook Sci-Fi 





OKay...It's obvious that this was written, if nothing else, in the mentality
of some young boy whoes eyes are being influenced by the testosterone
coursing through his veins...BUT...The female marionette is weirding my out

RE: [scifinoir2] TV Guide's Top Catchphrases of All Time

2009-06-06 Thread Reece Jennings
That's already a made-up word!

  _  

From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Augustus Augustus
Sent: Friday, June 05, 2009 8:55 AM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] TV Guide's Top Catchphrases of All Time






i'm thirding (made up word) pal!

--- On Fri, 6/5/09, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@lycos.com wrote:




From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@lycos.com
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] TV Guide's Top Catchphrases of All Time
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, June 5, 2009, 8:18 AM





I'm seconding you on those, pal.







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Subject : Re: [scifinoir2] TV Guide's Top Catchphrases of All Time
Date : Fri, 5 Jun 2009 02:49:55 -0700 (PDT)
From : C.W. Badie astromancer2002@ yahoo.com
To : scifino...@yahoogro ups.com

No kidding, Keith...What happened to Where's the Beef? or Try it, you'll
like it or I can't believe I ate the whole thing!...If you want to stick
with the most recent, what about I'm good! form Pepsi? (or was it Coke?) 

--- On Thu, 4/9/09, Keith Johnson wrote: 


From: Keith Johnson 
Subject: [scifinoir2] TV Guide's Top Catchphrases of All Time 
To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com 
Date: Thursday, April 9, 2009, 10:13 PM 









Just goes to show anyone can put together one of these The Best... lists.
I acknowledge that Friends was a hug hit--among one section of the
populace--but I never watched it. And frankly, neither did many of my
friends. So is Joey's line--which I barely recall--really the best TV
catchphrase in history?  Similarly, they're really putting How rude from
Full House on the list. Who the hell remembers that? Who the hell watched
that wretched show? Tim Gunn, Entourage, How I Met Your Mother--all
those shows have lines that are already supposedly legendary? What am I
missing here? I'd think it was a list done by under-30 people who only know
the last ten years of TV if they hadn't gone back to the old Batman TV show
and Good Times. 

But still, I can think of much better stuff that seems to be more iconic. I
mean, even non-fans know the Star Trek line He's dead, Jim, (although to
be technical, McCoy never uttered those exact words).  Or how about Outer
Limits' We are in control? Or Fantasy Island's Zee plaaane!? 

 * * * * *** 


The 16 Greatest TV Catchphrases 
By Adam Bryant - TVGuide.com | Thursday, April 2, 2009, 5:08 PM 


The Donald 
NBC/Trae Patton 
Now that The Donald is back on the air giving us our weekly dose of You're
fired! on The Celebrity Apprentice, we decided to count down our favorite
one-liners. For brevity's sake, we ruled out any one-word catchphrases
(including Blerg, D'oh!, and Aaaa), but feel free to tell us how
stupid we are mention those and all your other favorites in the comments
below. 

  
  

16. Eat my shorts! 
Who says it: Bart Simpson, The Simpsons 
Why we love it: It's to the point, insulting, and irreverent, just like the
show at its best. 
  
  
  

15. Book 'em, Danno. 
Who says it: Jack Lord, Hawaii, Five-O 
Why we love it: The best procedurals produce great catchphrases (Hill
Street Blues' Let's be careful out there, for example), and this weekly
signature has entered the American lexicon. The case was never closed until
you heard those famous words -- it was the Law  Order banging gavel of
its day. 
  



14. How rude! 
Who says it: Stephanie Tanner, Full House 
Why we love it: This one is all about the delivery. Taken on its own, it's
little more than just another middle child whining. But with Stephanie's
pursed lips, raised eyebrows and harumph attitude, it becomes instantly
memorable. 
  


13. Make it work! 
Who says it: Tim Gunn, Project Runway 
Why we love it: Because Tim Gunn is the man, that's why. Carry on. 
  
  
  
  

12. Son of a b---h! 

Who says it: Sawyer, Lost 
Why we love it: It's tough to own a phrase this common, but nobody says it
quite like the surly one, Hoss. 
  
  
  

11. That's what she said. 
Who says it: Michael Scott, The Office 
Why we love it: Sure, the writers of The Office didn't invent this
versatile zinger, but we can thank them for making it OK to use it in our
own office. You know, because we're 13-year-olds at heart, just like
Michael. 
  


10. Jane, you ignorant sl--... 
Who says it: Dan Aykroyd, Saturday Night Live 
Why we love it: Aykroyd brilliantly lampooned right-wing rhetoric 30 years
before Stephen Colbert with this sexist jab. 
  
  
  

9. Legen- - wait for it - -dary 
Who says it: Barney Stinson, How I Met Your Mother 
Why we love it: We just can't get enough of Barney's awesomeness. His
blustery bravado hits at a universal truth: You either know a Barney or are
a Barney. Check yo' self, people. 
  
  

8. ...for me to poop on! 
Who says it: Triumph the Insult Comic Dog, Late Night with Conan O'Brien 
Why we love it: Robert Smigel's off-color, cigar-smoking talking dog was
just weird enough to work. Just when he got 

RE: [scifinoir2] Cool site

2009-06-03 Thread Reece Jennings
Thanks, Gunny Rave.  It shrinks other things, too.
I put in:
 
United States Marine Corps Recon Gunnery Sergeant Ravenadal...
 
It shortened it to:
 
Gunny Rave...
 
LOL!!!
 
PS:  Man, I LOVE Marines!  When I was a telephone company supervisor, I
quickly learned to
just give a Marine a project and leave him alone!  Not only was the project
done early, it was
done a lot better than I could have directed him to do, and he helped
everybody else finish their
projects early and with high professionalism.  HOO-rah!
 
I just had to stop him from spending his lunch hour practicing tactics in a
Gilly Suit!!!

  _  

From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of ravenadal
Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 3:58 PM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [scifinoir2] Cool site





http://notlong. http://notlong.com com

A cool way to shrink long URLs.

I shrunk the following url:

http://news.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090603/ap_on_go_pr_wh/obama_pomp_and_pagentry
yahoo.com/s/ap/20090603/ap_on_go_pr_wh/obama_pomp_and_pagentry

to:

http://obamaisking. http://obamaisking.com com

~rave!

http://twitter. http://twitter.com/ravenadal com/ravenadal
http://blackplush. http://blackplush.blogspot.com blogspot.com






RE: [scifinoir2] Cool site

2009-06-03 Thread Reece Jennings
Aye-Aye, Sir!  Thanks!

  _  

From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Augustus Augustus
Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 7:12 PM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Cool site






Reece

it's Ohh Rah!

Fate.

p.s. Rave, i did not know u were a Gunny?
Semper Fi Devil Dog

--- On Wed, 6/3/09, Reece Jennings mcjennings...@yahoo.com wrote:




From: Reece Jennings mcjennings...@yahoo.com
Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Cool site
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, June 3, 2009, 7:05 PM





Thanks, Gunny Rave.  It shrinks other things, too.
I put in:
 
United States Marine Corps Recon Gunnery Sergeant Ravenadal... 
 
It shortened it to:
 
Gunny Rave...
 
LOL!!!
 
PS:  Man, I LOVE Marines!  When I was a telephone company supervisor, I
quickly learned to
just give a Marine a project and leave him alone!  Not only was the project
done early, it was
done a lot better than I could have directed him to do, and he helped
everybody else finish their
projects early and with high professionalism.  HOO-rah!
 
I just had to stop him from spending his lunch hour practicing tactics in a
Gilly Suit!!!

  _  

From: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com [mailto:scifinoir2@ yahoogroups. com] On
Behalf Of ravenadal
Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 3:58 PM
To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com
Subject: [scifinoir2] Cool site



http://notlong. com http://notlong.com 

A cool way to shrink long URLs.

I shrunk the following url:

http://news. yahoo.com/ s/ap/20090603/
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090603/ap_on_go_pr_wh/obama_pomp_and_pagentry
ap_on_go_ pr_wh/obama_ pomp_and_ pagentry

to:

http://obamaisking. com http://obamaisking.com 

~rave!

http://twitter. com/ravenadal http://twitter.com/ravenadal 
http://blackplush. blogspot.  http://blackplush.blogspot.com com







RE: [scifinoir2] For Martin!

2009-06-02 Thread Reece Jennings
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
 

  _  

From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Augustus Augustus
Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 8:10 PM
To: Sci Fi
Subject: [scifinoir2] For Martin!






Testicle Therapy
   

Two women were playing golf.. One teed off and watched in horror as her ball
headed directly toward a foursome of men playing the next hole. 
 
The ball hit one of the men.  
 
He immediately clasped his hands together at his
 groin, fell to the ground and proceeded to roll around
 in agony.
 
The woman rushed down to the man, and immediately began to
 apologize.  'Please allow me to help.  
I'm a Physical Therapist and I know I could relieve
 your pain if you'd allow me,' she told him. 
 
'Oh, no, I'll be all right. I'll be fine in a
 few minutes,' the man replied. He was in obvious agony,
 lying in the fetal position, still clasping his hands there
 at his groin. 
 
  At her persistence, however, he finally allowed her to
 help. She gently took his hands away and laid them to the
 side, loosened his pants and put her hands inside. She
 administered tender and artful massage for several
 long minutes and asked, 'How does that feel'? 
 
He replied: 'It feels great, but I still think my
 thumb's broken!'





RE: [scifinoir2] Blacks in Space: If sci-fi is the future, why is it so white?

2009-06-02 Thread Reece Jennings
I don't play golf, but I'm feeling that urge!

  _  

From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Martin Baxter
Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 8:58 PM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Blacks in Space: If sci-fi is the future, why is
it so white?






Thank you, Mr Worf! First that great joke from Gunny Fate (for which I
failed to thank you, good sir, as the laughter still echoes about me), and
now this... if only I could get a lovely young lady to pay me special
regard, I'd rest head to cool pillow as a satisfied man.







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Subject : Re: [scifinoir2] Blacks in Space: If sci-fi is the future, why is
it so white?
Date : Tue, 2 Jun 2009 16:28:01 -0700
From : Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com
To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com

Here is a clip about him: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aLQAx-sw0zI 

Additional info on the National society of black physicists 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nY_72cJgX4 

On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 3:03 PM, Martin Baxter wrote: 

 Mr Worf, that mistake about the series does bug me, but doesn't surprise
me 
 in the least. I've noticed, in the past few weeks, that a lot of SF
articles 
 written have had glaring errors of fact. 
 
 And that bit about the brother building a time machine makes me want to 
 lend him a hand. 
 
 
 
 
 
 -[ Received Mail Content ]-- 
 
 Subject : Re: [scifinoir2] Blacks in Space: If sci-fi is the future, why 
 is it so white? 
 
 Date : Tue, 2 Jun 2009 05:15:49 -0700 
 
 From : Mr. Worf 
 
 To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
 
 
 Anyone bugged by the article mentioning that star trek was the 1970s? 
 
 Black astronauts and other scientists are marginalized even though their 
 contributions are great. The Science channel has several experts on 
 astrophysics that are black. (thank god!) One is currently working on a 
 time 
 machine. 
 
 On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 4:30 AM, Liggins Bill wrote: 
 
  
  
  What about true life? When was a black astronaut part of the resident 
 crew 
  of the International Space Station? How about never. Black astronauts 
 were 
  among the crews that chauffeured them to the ISS. They stayed a few days

  then had to leave. But when comes to those resident crews, the ISS is 
 still 
  restricted housing when it comes to blacks. Because of that, black 
  astronauts are not getting the endurance training needed for a mission
to 
  Mars. So when it comes time to chose a crew for that Mars mission, black

  astronauts may be at the bottom of the list. Hopefully this will be 
 reviewed 
  by the new NASA director and changed before NASA loses its leadership in

 the 
  international space race. 
  
  
  
  
  *Bill Liggins* 
  
  *Author of WARNING, a Sci-Fi Novel* 
  
  http://www.authorsden.com/visit/author.asp?authorid=4905 
  
  bill_ligg...@yahoo.com 
  
  
  --- On *Mon, 6/1/09, Curtis, Jr. * wrote: 
  
  
  From: Curtis, Jr. 
  Subject: [scifinoir2] Blacks in Space: If sci-fi is the future, why is
it 
  so white? 
  To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
  Date: Monday, June 1, 2009, 11:58 PM 
  
  Blacks in Space 
  
  If sci-fi is the future, why is it so white? 
  
  Danielle C. Belton | May 29, 2009 
  
  
  Star Trek's Lt. Uhura was a science-fiction pioneer in the 1970s -- a 
 black 
  woman answering the phone, I mean computer, in space. Uhura, played by 
  actress Nichelle Nichols, was the communications officer, a role that 
 would 
  go on to be a popular one for futuristic minorities. While she was 
  groundbreaking in that she was a black woman who survived quite well in 
  space, her story lines were few, her adventures were stunted, and her 
  romances were nonexistent. The philandering Capt. Kirk had to be forced 
 to 
  kiss the comely Uhura -- apparently in the future, interracial lip-lock 
 is 
  just as controversial as it was in the 1970s. 
  Nichols paved the way for Kandyse McClure's character Petty Officer 
 Dualla, 
  a black woman who also starts out answering the phone, on the critically

  acclaimed Battlestar Galactica series remake that wrapped this year. 
 Dualla 
  fares better than Uhura in that she gets her own story line, experiences

 a 
  real romance, and has some adventures. But she commits suicide in the 
 final 
  season of the series. 
  
  And these are the two primary options for blacks in space: Either you're

  marginalized or killed off. (Or, in the worst-case scenario, you're 
  marginalized and still die.) 
  
  So when word got out that director J.J. Abrams was set to re-envision
the 
  original Star Trek, with a big-budget film released last month, I was 
  looking out for Lt. Uhura. And she is certainly there, played by actress

 Zoë 
  Saldana. She's right where we left her in the 1970s, still answering the

  phone. 
  
  Science-fiction story lines might take place in the future, but they are

  written in the now. They reflect the mind-set of the creators and the 
 

RE: [RE][scifinoir2] Fw: WHY DIDN'T WE SEE THIS???? - A Black Woman Admiral Rescuced The Maersk Alabama Captain!!!!!!!

2009-06-01 Thread Reece Jennings
Have you seen 'Flags of our Fathers'?  Same thing, with all Marines shown as
white.

  _  

From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Keith Johnson
Sent: Monday, June 01, 2009 12:28 AM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Fw: WHY DIDN'T WE SEE THIS - A Black Woman
Admiral Rescuced The Maersk Alabama Captain!!!






I'm not a veteran, yet I agree with you. When I heard that about the
Brother, I decided not to see that movie...

- Original Message -
From: Augustus Augustus jazzynupe_...@yahoo.com
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, May 31, 2009 6:14:28 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: RE: [RE][scifinoir2] Fw: WHY DIDN'T WE SEE THIS - A Black Woman
Admiral Rescuced The Maersk Alabama Captain!!!






Trace,

that is the exact reason that i have yet to watch and never will watch world
trade center.  the nick cage movie about the firefighters.  there was a
Marine (and u know how i feel about my beloved United States Marine Corps -
Ohh Rah!) who was pivotal in helping the fire fighters and getting the
people organized in the rescue effort.  he was a Black Marine and in the
movie they used a white guy.  they producers later said right b4 it was
released - when they started getting flak about it, that they did not know
his skin color and that they only assumed that he was white.  that pissed me
off even more.  2 me they were saying that they just assume that all heroic
figures are White!  damn.

Fate.

--- On Sun, 5/31/09, Tracey de Morsella tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com
wrote:




From: Tracey de Morsella tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com
Subject: RE: [RE][scifinoir2] Fw: WHY DIDN'T WE SEE THIS - A Black Woman
Admiral Rescuced The Maersk Alabama Captain!!!
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, May 31, 2009, 5:58 PM





This was posted when it happened.  Unfortunately, it was three in the
morning when I posted it and did not put a subject on it.  I have a feeling
her role will not be featured in the movie, and if it is, it will be
downplayed and not Black.  I hope I am wrong

 

From: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com [mailto:scifinoir2@ yahoogroups. com] On
Behalf Of Augustus Augustus
Sent: Sunday, May 31, 2009 2:47 PM
To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com
Subject: Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Fw: WHY DIDN'T WE SEE THIS - A Black Woman
Admiral Rescuced The Maersk Alabama Captain! !!

 







Martin, 

you are right.  we did this when it first broke.  thin Amy slept on this
one.

Fate.

--- On Sun, 5/31/09, Martin Baxter truthseeker013@ lycos.com wrote:


From: Martin Baxter truthseeker013@ lycos.com
Subject: [RE][scifinoir2] Fw: WHY DIDN'T WE SEE THIS - A Black Woman
Admiral Rescuced The Maersk Alabama Captain! !!
To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com
Date: Sunday, May 31, 2009, 7:27 AM


I thought we did post this.





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Subject : [scifinoir2] Fw: WHY DIDN'T WE SEE THIS - A Black Woman
Admiral Rescuced The Maersk Alabama Captain! !!
Date : Sun, 31 May 2009 07:18:04 -0400
From : Amy ahar...@earthlink. net
To : scifino...@yahoogro ups.com


ahar...@earthlink. net 
What a story! 

Subject: Fw: WHY DIDN'T WE SEE THIS - A Black Woman Admiral Rescuced The
Maersk Alabama Captain! !! 




Darned media!! I did not know this!!! 

Ship commanded by Black woman admiral rescued Maersk Alabama captain 

20 

By James Wright 
AFRO Staff Writer 



Admiral Michelle Howard (Courtesy Photo) 

(April 26, 2009) - While the facts surrounding the kidnapping and rescue of
the Maersk Alabama Captain Richard Phillips have been widely reported, less
well-known is that ship which saved him was commanded by a black woman, Rear
Admiral Michelle Howard. 

Howard received the assignment of leading 20 the U.S. Navy's counter-piracy
task force just three days before the Maersk Alabama was attacked by Somalia
pirates. 

It 's probably one of the most exciting missions the Navy has been on in
for a long while, Howard told the Navy Times. 

Howard is the first of her 1982 U.S. Naval Academy class to reach the rank
of admiral. In 1999, Howard became the f irst African-American woman to
command a U.S. Navy ship, the USS Rushmore. 

She holds a masters degree in Military Science Arts and Sci ences from the
Army's Command and General Staff College . 

Howard said the mission of her unit, Combined Task Force 151, will remain
deterring and disrupting piracy off the Horn of Africa. 

Right now, the policy is, fight piracy, and I am all about that policy,8 0
she told the Navy Times. We are quite capable of staying out here and doing
this mission. 

Howard's task force operates with U.S. warships deployed to the eastern
Africa area as well as those sent from allied nations. Before her assignment
to the strike group, Howard was the senior military assistant to the
Secretary of the Navy. 













http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=JQdwk8Yntds 













RE: [RE][scifinoir2] Fw: WHY DIDN'T WE SEE THIS???? - A Black Woman Admiral Rescuced The Maersk Alabama Captain!!!!!!!

2009-06-01 Thread Reece Jennings
Thanks, Fate!  Good to know!

  _  

From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Augustus Augustus
Sent: Sunday, May 31, 2009 10:55 PM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [RE][scifinoir2] Fw: WHY DIDN'T WE SEE THIS - A Black Woman
Admiral Rescuced The Maersk Alabama Captain!!!






Reece,

actually we call all flag officers sir.  regardless of sex, unless they
specify it.  being a Marine i have had 2 report 2 female commanders,
captains, and admirals and called them sir.  only  a handful will correct u
on it.  and then only if u r directly in their command.  

Fate.

--- On Sun, 5/31/09, Reece Jennings mcjennings...@yahoo.com wrote:




From: Reece Jennings mcjennings...@yahoo.com
Subject: RE: [RE][scifinoir2] Fw: WHY DIDN'T WE SEE THIS - A Black Woman
Admiral Rescuced The Maersk Alabama Captain!!!
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, May 31, 2009, 10:18 PM





And probably not female, either!
 
I just watched a short special on Black Marines in WWII, and especially
Okinawa.  There were NO 
photos of them, and they were left out of the latest movies, too.
Ironically, a white woman who 
believes in honoring ALL war veterans dug out tons of pictures from the
National Archives in DC.
 
So, if there HAS been any progress, they will portray this amazing admiral
just as she is, warts and
all.  Because being human and overcoming a lot of what that means is what
makes sheroes and heroes.
 
And maybe one day, as in BSG, ALL flag officers will be called 'sir'.  I
thought that was the coolest!
 

  _  

From: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com [mailto:scifinoir2@ yahoogroups. com] On
Behalf Of Tracey de Morsella
Sent: Sunday, May 31, 2009 5:58 PM
To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com
Subject: RE: [RE][scifinoir2] Fw: WHY DIDN'T WE SEE THIS - A Black Woman
Admiral Rescuced The Maersk Alabama Captain! !!





This was posted when it happened.  Unfortunately, it was three in the
morning when I posted it and did not put a subject on it.  I have a feeling
her role will not be featured in the movie, and if it is, it will be
downplayed and not Black.  I hope I am wrong



From: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com [mailto:scifinoir2@ yahoogroups. com] On
Behalf Of Augustus Augustus
Sent: Sunday, May 31, 2009 2:47 PM
To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com
Subject: Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Fw: WHY DIDN'T WE SEE THIS - A Black Woman
Admiral Rescuced The Maersk Alabama Captain! !!









Martin, 

you are right.  we did this when it first broke.  thin Amy slept on this
one.

Fate.

--- On Sun, 5/31/09, Martin Baxter truthseeker013@ lycos.com wrote:


From: Martin Baxter truthseeker013@ lycos.com
Subject: [RE][scifinoir2] Fw: WHY DIDN'T WE SEE THIS - A Black Woman
Admiral Rescuced The Maersk Alabama Captain! !!
To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com
Date: Sunday, May 31, 2009, 7:27 AM


I thought we did post this.





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Date : Sun, 31 May 2009 07:18:04 -0400
From : Amy ahar...@earthlink. net
To : scifino...@yahoogro ups.com


ahar...@earthlink. net 
What a story! 

Subject: Fw: WHY DIDN'T WE SEE THIS - A Black Woman Admiral Rescuced The
Maersk Alabama Captain! !! 




Darned media!! I did not know this!!! 

Ship commanded by Black woman admiral rescued Maersk Alabama captain 

20 

By James Wright 
AFRO Staff Writer 



Admiral Michelle Howard (Courtesy Photo) 

(April 26, 2009) - While the facts surrounding the kidnapping and rescue of
the Maersk Alabama Captain Richard Phillips have been widely reported, less
well-known is that ship which saved him was commanded by a black woman, Rear
Admiral Michelle Howard. 

Howard received the assignment of leading 20 the U.S. Navy's counter-piracy
task force just three days before the Maersk Alabama was attacked by Somalia
pirates. 

It 's probably one of the most exciting missions the Navy has been on in
for a long while, Howard told the Navy Times. 

Howard is the first of her 1982 U.S. Naval Academy class to reach the rank
of admiral. In 1999, Howard became the f irst African-American woman to
command a U.S. Navy ship, the USS Rushmore. 

She holds a masters degree in Military Science Arts and Sci ences from the
Army's Command and General Staff College . 

Howard said the mission of her unit, Combined Task Force 151, will remain
deterring and disrupting piracy off the Horn of Africa. 

Right now, the policy is, fight piracy, and I am all about that policy,8 0
she told the Navy Times. We are quite capable of staying out here and doing
this mission. 

Howard's task force operates with U.S. warships deployed to the eastern
Africa area as well as those sent from allied nations. Before her assignment
to the strike group, Howard was the senior military assistant to the
Secretary of the Navy. 













http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=JQdwk8Yntds 















RE: [scifinoir2] Fw: WHY DIDN'T WE SEE THIS???? - A Black Woman Admiral Rescuced The Maersk Alabama Captain!!!!!!!

2009-05-31 Thread Reece Jennings
I googled her when this came out a month or so back.  She has quite an 
impressive record!
 

  _  

From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Amy
Sent: Sunday, May 31, 2009 7:18 AM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [scifinoir2] Fw: WHY DIDN'T WE SEE THIS - A Black Woman Admiral 
Rescuced The Maersk Alabama Captain!!!





 

 
ahar...@earthlink. mailto:ahar...@earthlink.net net
What a story!
 
Subject: Fw: WHY DIDN'T WE SEE THIS - A Black Woman Admiral Rescuced The 
Maersk Alabama Captain!!!

 

 http://feeds.dailykos.com/~r/dailykos/index/~3/7JOGv9LJA-w/697176 

Darned media!!  I did not know this!!!  



Ship commanded by Black woman admiral rescued Maersk Alabama captain 

20 

By James Wright 
AFRO Staff Writer


  http://www.afro.com/Portals/1/haveyouseenthis/admhoward.jpg 

Admiral Michelle Howard (Courtesy Photo)

 (April 26, 2009) - While the facts surrounding the kidnapping and rescue of 
the Maersk Alabama Captain Richard Phillips have been widely reported, less 
well-known is that ship which saved him was commanded by a black woman, Rear 
Admiral Michelle Howard. 

Howard received the assignment of leading 20 the U.S. Navy's counter-piracy 
task force just three days before the Maersk Alabama was attacked by Somalia 
pirates. 

“It 's probably one of the most exciting missions the Navy has been on in for a 
long while,” Howard told the Navy Times. 

Howard is the first of her 1982 U.S. Naval Academy class to reach the rank of 
admiral. In 1999, Howard became the f irst African-American woman to command a 
U.S. Navy ship, the USS Rushmore. 

She holds a masters degree in Military Science Arts and Sci ences from the 
Army’s Command and General Staff College . 

Howard said the mission of her unit, Combined Task Force 151, will remain 
deterring and disrupting piracy off the Horn of Africa. 

“Right now, the policy is, fight piracy, and I am all about that policy,8 0 she 
told the Navy Times. “We are quite capable of staying out here and doing this 
mission.” 

Howard’s task force operates with U.S. warships deployed to the eastern Africa 
area as well as those sent from allied nations. Before her assignment to the 
strike group, Howard was the senior military assistant to the Secretary of the 
Navy.

 



 

 




RE: [RE][scifinoir2] The CW: Ain't No Beautiful Black People

2009-05-31 Thread Reece Jennings
What is CW?

  _  

From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Martin Baxter
Sent: Sunday, May 31, 2009 11:41 AM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [RE][scifinoir2] The CW: Ain't No Beautiful Black People






Well, DAY-UM... if i don't exist, then I might as well stop paying this
$60/month internet bill, save myself the money.

To date, there are three channels I've removed from memory on my TV; BET,
Golf Channel and CW. 'Nuff said.







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Subject : [scifinoir2] The CW: Ain't No Beautiful Black People
Date : Sun, 31 May 2009 12:48:27 -
From : ravenadal ravena...@yahoo.com
To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com

www.chicagotribune.com/features/arts/chi-0524-cwmay24,0,3868838.story 

chicagotribune.com 

TELEVISION 

CW bets on beautiful people 

By Maria Elena Fernandez 

Tribune Newspapers 

May 24, 2009 


NEW YORK -- Last season was do-or-die for the CW network -- and it did not
die. The two scripted shows the young network needed the most, the freshman
90210 and the sophomore Gossip Girl, succeeded well enough to show that
the CW can reach its target audience of 18- to 34-year-old women as well as
create a brand. And veteran series One Tree Hill, Supernatural and
America's Next Top Model continued to perform well. 

Next season, the network, which canceled its only comedies, The Game and
Everybody Hates Chris, will air only dramas and reality shows starring
young, attractive people in alluring settings. The network announced three
new dramas for fall and one for midseason, and will order new reality series
for midseason, CW President Dawn Ostroff said last week during a press
conference after her presentation to advertisers at Madison Square Garden. 

Honestly, I think we've had a lot of disappointments in comedy, Ostroff
said. It's not to say that we couldn't find the right comedy. But we did
several shows, like 'Chris' and 'Aliens in America,' which we were really
proud of. We thought they were different. They were about something. The
writing was wonderful, and we just couldn't make a go of it. So we decided
to stick with what's working for us now. 

Of the new series, the most highly anticipated is the remake of Melrose
Place, the Fox hit and spinoff of the original Beverly Hills, 90210. Fans
of the Heather Locklear-starring series will be pleased about the return of
Laura Leighton, as the resurrected Sydney -- does anyone really die on TV
anymore? -- and Thomas Calabro as Michael Mancini. From the clip shown at
Madison Square Garden, there is a love triangle of sorts involving Sydney,
Michael and his son, and a death in the pool. Melrose Place will air
Tuesdays after 90210. 

Also on the fall roster is The Beautiful Life, set in the high-fashion
modeling world and, yes, it's full of beautiful people. The Vampire
Diaries is centered on two vampire brothers vying for the same woman. 

Ostroff also ordered a midseason drama, Parental Discretion Advised, which
is set in Portland, Ore., and is the story of a 16-year-old girl who has
lived in the foster system her whole life and finds her biological parents,
who had her when they were in high school. 

The CW probably will pick up another midseason drama, but Ostroff said she
wanted to wait and see how the season plays out before making a decision.
The network developed six drama pilots, including a Gossip Girl spinoff
starring Brittany Snow, which aired as part of a Gossip Girl episode
earlier this month and was not received very well by fans. That series could
make an appearance next year, Ostroff said. 

Although it's been reported that Smallville, which will air Fridays, will
enter its ninth and final season next year, Ostroff said a final decision
had not been made, and she hoped the show could continue. 

Copyright C 2009, Chicago Tribune 






http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQdwk8Yntds 




RE: [RE][scifinoir2] The CW: Ain't No Beautiful Black People

2009-05-31 Thread Reece Jennings
HAHAHAHAHA!  Thanks, Rave!

  _  

From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of ravenadal
Sent: Sunday, May 31, 2009 2:05 PM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [RE][scifinoir2] The CW: Ain't No Beautiful Black People





CW is the unholy alliance between former netlets UPN (Unfortunate
Programming for Negroes)and the WB (the Wayans Brothers Network).

~(no)rave!

--- In scifino...@yahoogro mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com ups.com,
Reece Jennings mcjennings...@... wrote:

 What is CW?
 
 _ 
 
 From: scifino...@yahoogro mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com ups.com
[mailto:scifino...@yahoogro mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com ups.com]
On
 Behalf Of Martin Baxter
 Sent: Sunday, May 31, 2009 11:41 AM
 To: scifino...@yahoogro mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com ups.com
 Subject: [RE][scifinoir2] The CW: Ain't No Beautiful Black People
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Well, DAY-UM... if i don't exist, then I might as well stop paying this
 $60/month internet bill, save myself the money.
 
 To date, there are three channels I've removed from memory on my TV; BET,
 Golf Channel and CW. 'Nuff said.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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 Subject : [scifinoir2] The CW: Ain't No Beautiful Black People
 Date : Sun, 31 May 2009 12:48:27 -
 From : ravenadal ravena...@...
 To : scifino...@yahoogro mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com ups.com
 
 www.chicagotribune.com/features/arts/chi-0524-cwmay24,0,3868838.story 
 
 chicagotribune.com 
 
 TELEVISION 
 
 CW bets on beautiful people 
 
 By Maria Elena Fernandez 
 
 Tribune Newspapers 
 
 May 24, 2009 
 
 
 NEW YORK -- Last season was do-or-die for the CW network -- and it did not
 die. The two scripted shows the young network needed the most, the
freshman
 90210 and the sophomore Gossip Girl, succeeded well enough to show
that
 the CW can reach its target audience of 18- to 34-year-old women as well
as
 create a brand. And veteran series One Tree Hill, Supernatural and
 America's Next Top Model continued to perform well. 
 
 Next season, the network, which canceled its only comedies, The Game and
 Everybody Hates Chris, will air only dramas and reality shows starring
 young, attractive people in alluring settings. The network announced three
 new dramas for fall and one for midseason, and will order new reality
series
 for midseason, CW President Dawn Ostroff said last week during a press
 conference after her presentation to advertisers at Madison Square Garden.

 
 Honestly, I think we've had a lot of disappointments in comedy, Ostroff
 said. It's not to say that we couldn't find the right comedy. But we did
 several shows, like 'Chris' and 'Aliens in America,' which we were really
 proud of. We thought they were different. They were about something. The
 writing was wonderful, and we just couldn't make a go of it. So we decided
 to stick with what's working for us now. 
 
 Of the new series, the most highly anticipated is the remake of Melrose
 Place, the Fox hit and spinoff of the original Beverly Hills, 90210.
Fans
 of the Heather Locklear-starring series will be pleased about the return
of
 Laura Leighton, as the resurrected Sydney -- does anyone really die on TV
 anymore? -- and Thomas Calabro as Michael Mancini. From the clip shown at
 Madison Square Garden, there is a love triangle of sorts involving Sydney,
 Michael and his son, and a death in the pool. Melrose Place will air
 Tuesdays after 90210. 
 
 Also on the fall roster is The Beautiful Life, set in the high-fashion
 modeling world and, yes, it's full of beautiful people. The Vampire
 Diaries is centered on two vampire brothers vying for the same woman. 
 
 Ostroff also ordered a midseason drama, Parental Discretion Advised,
which
 is set in Portland, Ore., and is the story of a 16-year-old girl who has
 lived in the foster system her whole life and finds her biological
parents,
 who had her when they were in high school. 
 
 The CW probably will pick up another midseason drama, but Ostroff said she
 wanted to wait and see how the season plays out before making a decision.
 The network developed six drama pilots, including a Gossip Girl spinoff
 starring Brittany Snow, which aired as part of a Gossip Girl episode
 earlier this month and was not received very well by fans. That series
could
 make an appearance next year, Ostroff said. 
 
 Although it's been reported that Smallville, which will air Fridays,
will
 enter its ninth and final season next year, Ostroff said a final decision
 had not been made, and she hoped the show could continue. 
 
 Copyright C 2009, Chicago Tribune 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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com/watch?v=JQdwk8Yntds







RE: [RE][scifinoir2] Fw: WHY DIDN'T WE SEE THIS???? - A Black Woman Admiral Rescuced The Maersk Alabama Captain!!!!!!!

2009-05-31 Thread Reece Jennings
And probably not female, either!
 
I just watched a short special on Black Marines in WWII, and especially
Okinawa.  There were NO 
photos of them, and they were left out of the latest movies, too.
Ironically, a white woman who 
believes in honoring ALL war veterans dug out tons of pictures from the
National Archives in DC.
 
So, if there HAS been any progress, they will portray this amazing admiral
just as she is, warts and
all.  Because being human and overcoming a lot of what that means is what
makes sheroes and heroes.
 
And maybe one day, as in BSG, ALL flag officers will be called 'sir'.  I
thought that was the coolest!
 

  _  

From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Tracey de Morsella
Sent: Sunday, May 31, 2009 5:58 PM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [RE][scifinoir2] Fw: WHY DIDN'T WE SEE THIS - A Black Woman
Admiral Rescuced The Maersk Alabama Captain!!!






This was posted when it happened.  Unfortunately, it was three in the
morning when I posted it and did not put a subject on it.  I have a feeling
her role will not be featured in the movie, and if it is, it will be
downplayed and not Black.  I hope I am wrong

From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Augustus Augustus
Sent: Sunday, May 31, 2009 2:47 PM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Fw: WHY DIDN'T WE SEE THIS - A Black Woman
Admiral Rescuced The Maersk Alabama Captain!!!







Martin, 

you are right.  we did this when it first broke.  thin Amy slept on this
one.

Fate.

--- On Sun, 5/31/09, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@lycos.com wrote:


From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@lycos.com
Subject: [RE][scifinoir2] Fw: WHY DIDN'T WE SEE THIS - A Black Woman
Admiral Rescuced The Maersk Alabama Captain!!!
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, May 31, 2009, 7:27 AM


I thought we did post this.





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Subject : [scifinoir2] Fw: WHY DIDN'T WE SEE THIS - A Black Woman
Admiral Rescuced The Maersk Alabama Captain! !!
Date : Sun, 31 May 2009 07:18:04 -0400
From : Amy ahar...@earthlink. net
To : scifino...@yahoogro ups.com


ahar...@earthlink. net 
What a story! 

Subject: Fw: WHY DIDN'T WE SEE THIS - A Black Woman Admiral Rescuced The
Maersk Alabama Captain! !! 




Darned media!! I did not know this!!! 

Ship commanded by Black woman admiral rescued Maersk Alabama captain 

20 

By James Wright 
AFRO Staff Writer 



Admiral Michelle Howard (Courtesy Photo) 

(April 26, 2009) - While the facts surrounding the kidnapping and rescue of
the Maersk Alabama Captain Richard Phillips have been widely reported, less
well-known is that ship which saved him was commanded by a black woman, Rear
Admiral Michelle Howard. 

Howard received the assignment of leading 20 the U.S. Navy's counter-piracy
task force just three days before the Maersk Alabama was attacked by Somalia
pirates. 

It 's probably one of the most exciting missions the Navy has been on in
for a long while, Howard told the Navy Times. 

Howard is the first of her 1982 U.S. Naval Academy class to reach the rank
of admiral. In 1999, Howard became the f irst African-American woman to
command a U.S. Navy ship, the USS Rushmore. 

She holds a masters degree in Military Science Arts and Sci ences from the
Army's Command and General Staff College . 

Howard said the mission of her unit, Combined Task Force 151, will remain
deterring and disrupting piracy off the Horn of Africa. 

Right now, the policy is, fight piracy, and I am all about that policy,8 0
she told the Navy Times. We are quite capable of staying out here and doing
this mission. 

Howard's task force operates with U.S. warships deployed to the eastern
Africa area as well as those sent from allied nations. Before her assignment
to the strike group, Howard was the senior military assistant to the
Secretary of the Navy. 













http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=JQdwk8Yntds 










RE: [RE][scifinoir2] Fw: WHY DIDN'T WE SEE THIS???? - A Black Woman Admiral Rescuced The Maersk Alabama Captain!!!!!!!

2009-05-31 Thread Reece Jennings
Only when lions have historians will hunters cease being heroes -  African
Proverb
 
This has always been my favorite quote.  We need to represent ourselves.  We
have some that are doing it.
It's a great start!
 
 

  _  

From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Mr. Worf
Sent: Sunday, May 31, 2009 7:10 PM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Fw: WHY DIDN'T WE SEE THIS - A Black Woman
Admiral Rescuced The Maersk Alabama Captain!!!





This touches on a pet peeve of mine about hollywood. When they are writing,
or casting films they often list white characters. This may or may not be
intentional, but the end result if you multiply that by how many different
commercials, movies etc are cast you see an imbalance in the number of white
vs any other race. This is really evident when casting lead roles. 



On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 3:14 PM, Augustus Augustus jazzynupe_007@
mailto:jazzynupe_...@yahoo.com yahoo.com wrote:




Trace,

that is the exact reason that i have yet to watch and never will watch world
trade center.  the nick cage movie about the firefighters.  there was a
Marine (and u know how i feel about my beloved United States Marine Corps -
Ohh Rah!) who was pivotal in helping the fire fighters and getting the
people organized in the rescue effort.  he was a Black Marine and in the
movie they used a white guy.  they producers later said right b4 it was
released - when they started getting flak about it, that they did not know
his skin color and that they only assumed that he was white.  that pissed me
off even more.  2 me they were saying that they just assume that all heroic
figures are White!  damn.

Fate.

--- On Sun, 5/31/09, Tracey de Morsella tdli...@multicultur
mailto:tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com aladvantage.com wrote:




From: Tracey de Morsella tdli...@multicultur
mailto:tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com aladvantage.com
Subject: RE: [RE][scifinoir2] Fw: WHY DIDN'T WE SEE THIS - A Black Woman
Admiral Rescuced The Maersk Alabama Captain!!!
To: scifino...@yahoogro mailto:scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com ups.com
Date: Sunday, May 31, 2009, 5:58 PM





This was posted when it happened.  Unfortunately, it was three in the
morning when I posted it and did not put a subject on it.  I have a feeling
her role will not be featured in the movie, and if it is, it will be
downplayed and not Black.  I hope I am wrong

 

From: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com [mailto:scifinoir2@ yahoogroups. com] On
Behalf Of Augustus Augustus 


Sent: Sunday, May 31, 2009 2:47 PM

To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com 

Subject: Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Fw: WHY DIDN'T WE SEE THIS - A Black Woman
Admiral Rescuced The Maersk Alabama Captain! !!



 







Martin, 

you are right.  we did this when it first broke.  thin Amy slept on this
one.

Fate.

--- On Sun, 5/31/09, Martin Baxter truthseeker013@ lycos.com wrote:


From: Martin Baxter truthseeker013@ lycos.com
Subject: [RE][scifinoir2] Fw: WHY DIDN'T WE SEE THIS - A Black Woman
Admiral Rescuced The Maersk Alabama Captain! !!

To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com 

Date: Sunday, May 31, 2009, 7:27 AM

I thought we did post this.





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Subject : [scifinoir2] Fw: WHY DIDN'T WE SEE THIS - A Black Woman
Admiral Rescuced The Maersk Alabama Captain! !!
Date : Sun, 31 May 2009 07:18:04 -0400
From : Amy ahar...@earthlink. net
To : scifino...@yahoogro ups.com


ahar...@earthlink. net 
What a story! 

Subject: Fw: WHY DIDN'T WE SEE THIS - A Black Woman Admiral Rescuced The
Maersk Alabama Captain! !! 




Darned media!! I did not know this!!! 

Ship commanded by Black woman admiral rescued Maersk Alabama captain 

20 

By James Wright 
AFRO Staff Writer 



Admiral Michelle Howard (Courtesy Photo) 

(April 26, 2009) - While the facts surrounding the kidnapping and rescue of
the Maersk Alabama Captain Richard Phillips have been widely reported, less
well-known is that ship which saved him was commanded by a black woman, Rear
Admiral Michelle Howard. 

Howard received the assignment of leading 20 the U.S. Navy's counter-piracy
task force just three days before the Maersk Alabama was attacked by Somalia
pirates. 

It 's probably one of the most exciting missions the Navy has been on in
for a long while, Howard told the Navy Times. 

Howard is the first of her 1982 U.S. Naval Academy class to reach the rank
of admiral. In 1999, Howard became the f irst African-American woman to
command a U.S. Navy ship, the USS Rushmore. 

She holds a masters degree in Military Science Arts and Sci ences from the
Army's Command and General Staff College . 

Howard said the mission of her unit, Combined Task Force 151, will remain
deterring and disrupting piracy off the Horn of Africa. 

Right now, the policy is, fight piracy, and I am all about that policy,8 0
she told the Navy Times. We are quite capable of staying out here and doing
this mission. 

Howard's 

RE: [RE][scifinoir2] CBS Picks Up NBC's Canceled 'Medium' LL Cool J Gets NCIS

2009-05-23 Thread Reece Jennings
Same here!  But it was nice to see his interaction with his father, who
adored his son as
dads do!  And his look as he sped away in his bee-machine...priceless!
 
And all dad wanted was the hug, and the 'dad' he got.  That moment was too
much for me...
 
I couldn't help but make the connection between Ralph Waite and John-boy...

  _  

From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Martin Baxter
Sent: Saturday, May 23, 2009 9:29 AM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [RE][scifinoir2] CBS Picks Up NBC's Canceled 'Medium' LL Cool J
Gets NCIS






That it was. It did surprise me that he was from Pennsylvania. With a middle
name like Jethro, I was *sure* that he was from Thuh Lil' Ole Souf...







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From : Reece Jennings mcjennings...@yahoo.com
To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com

I just watched the episode when LeRoy went back to his home town. 
Excellent! 
And finding out that his father named him after a close friend who was 
African American 
was very cool. 

_ 

From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Martin Baxter 
Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 6:11 PM 
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Subject: RE: [RE][scifinoir2] CBS Picks Up NBC's Canceled 'Medium' LL Cool J

Gets NCIS 






They did. Maybe it's just a matter of them needing time to gell in my eyes. 
I'm spoiled because, for me, NCIS clicked right off the bat. 







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Subject : RE: [RE][scifinoir2] CBS Picks Up NBC's Canceled 'Medium' LL Cool 
J Gets NCIS 
Date : Fri, 22 May 2009 09:19:44 -0700 
From : Tracey de Morsella 
To : 

Did you watch the who thing? I thought the team ended up with some good 
chemistry in the end. 



From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Martin Baxter 
Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 4:54 AM 
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Subject: [RE][scifinoir2] CBS Picks Up NBC's Canceled 'Medium' LL Cool J 
Gets NCIS 









As for the NCIS spinoff, I tasted that one four minutes into the two-parter 
that introduced the new team. IMDB didn't even bother to hide it, clearly 
placing a spin-off' tag in with the rollover keywords. Might work. I'm a 
big NCIS fan, and I wasn't too keen on the lack of team interplay within 
that NCIS has always had. 





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Subject : [scifinoir2] CBS Picks Up NBC's Canceled 'Medium' LL Cool J Gets 
NCIS 
Date : Fri, 22 May 2009 00:17:39 -0700 
From : Tracey de Morsella 
To : 

NEW YORK - A couple of television crime-fighters are on the move: Patricia 
Arquette and Medium from NBC to CBS, and Simon Baker's  

...html The Mentalist to CBS' Thursday-night lineup. 

CBS, the last of the top four broadcasters to reveal its fall schedule to 
advertisers this week, said it was canceling Without a Trace, The Unit 
and Eleventh Hour. New series with Jenna Elfman and Julianna Margulies are


moving in. 

The nation's most popular network is a model of stability in a roiled 
broadcast industry. It's the only network with more viewers this season than


last, yet had less advertising revenue than its previous year because of a 
depressed market. 

Sensitive about a stodgy image, CBS Corp. chief executive Leslie Moonves 
cited in a presentation to advertisers on Wednesday a newspaper article that


talked about the network's ratings successes despite not being sexy. 

When you come right down to it, winning really is the only sexy thing out 
there, Moonves said. 

CBS moved quickly to grab Medium. As an aging show, production costs were 
going up. But since it is made by a production company owned by CBS Corp., 
the costs were more easily absorbed by CBS. It lands on CBS' Friday schedule


at 9 p.m., between Ghost Whisperer and Numb3rs. 

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season, and CBS decided to move it from Tuesday nights to Thursday at 10 
p.m. 

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like film studios looking ahead to the weekend. CBS also said it sees the 
chance to gain a competitive edge at 10 p.m. with NBC's decision to air Jay 
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RE: [scifinoir2] CBS Picks Up NBC's Canceled 'Medium' LL Cool J Gets NCIS

2009-05-23 Thread Reece Jennings
Thats's why I watch NCIS and not CSI.  The military influence is enticing to
me.
 
 

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Behalf Of Martin Baxter
Sent: Saturday, May 23, 2009 9:19 AM
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Gets NCIS






Keith, that's how I always looked at NCIS, police procedural with Navy and
Marine uniforms abounding.







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Date : Sat, 23 May 2009 03:17:06 + (UTC)
From : Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net
To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com

The Unit is a good, well-acted show with interesting characters. But as
Americans continue to grow weary of constant thoughts of terrorism and
foreign wars--even though Americans signed off on those wars--I wondered how
long it would last. There was a strong air of fear, xenophobia, and rampant
vengeance-minded jingoism since 9/11, all stoked by the Bush coterie.
Television capitalized on that with a glut of such shows back in the day. I
remember there was one called E-Ring, with Dennis Hopper and Benjamin
Bratt. It took place in the Pentagon. 

With Obama trying to change that mindset it's not surprising such
military-focused shows might finally be losing steam--at least, those
focused specifically on combat and warfare. I guess Army Wives, with its
focus on the family stateside, and gentler view of the military, will last.
Of course, being on Lifetime and having that cast of actresses doesn't
hurt! I know lots of guys who watch that show! 

I'm surprised NCIS lasted this long. I guess it's actually more police
procedural in tone, less military? 



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NEW YORK - A couple of television crime-fighters are on the move: Patricia
Arquette and Medium from NBC to CBS, and Simon Baker's  The Mentalist 
to CBS' Thursday-night lineup. 

CBS, the last of the top four broadcasters to reveal its fall schedule to
advertisers this week, said it was canceling Without a Trace, The Unit
and Eleventh Hour. New series with Jenna Elfman and Julianna Margulies are
moving in. 

The nation's most popular network is a model of stability in a roiled
broadcast industry. It's the only network with more viewers this season than
last, yet had less advertising revenue than its previous year because of a
depressed market. 

Sensitive about a stodgy image, CBS Corp. chief executive Leslie Moonves
cited in a presentation to advertisers on Wednesday a newspaper article that
talked about the network's ratings successes despite not being sexy. 

When you come right down to it, winning really is the only sexy thing out
there, Moonves said. 

CBS moved quickly to grab Medium. As an aging show, production costs were
going up. But since it is made by a production company owned by CBS Corp.,
the costs were more easily absorbed by CBS. It lands on CBS' Friday schedule
at 9 p.m., between Ghost Whisperer and Numb3rs. 

Simon Baker's The Mentalist was broadcast TV's only real new hit this
season, and CBS decided to move it from Tuesday nights to Thursday at 10
p.m. 

Thursdays are important for networks as they seek income from advertisers
like film studios looking ahead to the weekend. CBS also said it sees the
chance to gain a competitive edge at 10 p.m. with NBC's decision to air Jay
Leno's new comedy show at that hour each weeknight 





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Arquette and Medium from NBC to CBS, and Simon Baker's  The Mentalist 
to CBS' 

RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Kevin James Woos Rosario Dawson Doggie Style

2009-05-23 Thread Reece Jennings
Turn OFF?   LOLLOL!!!

  _  

From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Tracey de Morsella
Sent: Saturday, May 23, 2009 1:49 PM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Kevin James Woos Rosario Dawson Doggie Style





Please forgive me. :-) But I knew you would like the picture, so I'm glad
you found a way. Although images of Kevin James doing her doggie style must
be a turn off

-Original Message
From: scifino...@yahoogro mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com ups.com
[mailto:scifino...@yahoogro mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com ups.com]
On
Behalf Of ravenadal
Sent: Saturday, May 23, 2009 10:10 AM
To: scifino...@yahoogro mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.comd ups.comd 
Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Kevin James Woos Rosario Dawson Doggie Style

I am a web only subscriber so I see no picture and your blankety-blank
link doesn't work. Curses! But where there is Rosario Dawson Rave will
find a way! Behold, a working link:

http://cinemablend.
http://cinemablend.com/new/Kevin-James-Woos-Rosario-Dawson-Doggie-Style-132
3 com/new/Kevin-James-Woos-Rosario-Dawson-Doggie-Style-1323
4.html

Nice picture. Already part of my collection. But a picture IS worth a
thousand words.

~rave!

--- In scifino...@yahoogro mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com ups.com,
Tracey de Morsella tdli...@... wrote:

 I know how you guys feel about her, so I included the pix
 
 
 Kevin James Woos Rosario Dawson Doggie Style
 
 
 By Josh
http://www.cinemabl
http://www.cinemablend.com/features/About-Us-296.html#Josh%20Tyler
end.com/features/About-Us-296.html#Josh%20Tyler
 Tyler: 2009-05-20 22:03:54 
 
 
 http://www.cinemabl http://www.cinemablend.com/new/Kevin
end.com/new/Kevin
 
 James
 
 Kevin James Woos Rosario Dawson Doggie StyleRosario Dawson has signed up
to
 be the obligatory love interest of Kevin James in The Zookeeper. If
there's
 ever been a more unlikely romantic pairing, I can't think of it. Does
anyone
 believe there's any way a Rosario Dawson would ever be interested in a
Kevin
 James? Maybe that's the point, since the movie's about James going to
 extreme means to get the girl. Those extreme means involve him getting
 romance advice from gorillas. 
 
 Not just gorillas, but all sorts of zoo animals. The Zookeeper is about a
 keeper whose animals try to teach him the ways of love via their
animalistic
 methods of dating and mating. It sounds kind of like Doctor Doolittle, but
 behind bars. Rosario it seems, will be the women he tries to do doggie
 style. 
 
 Variety
 http://www.variety.
http://www.variety.com/article/VR1118004034.html?categoryid=13cs=1
com/article/VR1118004034.html?categoryid=13cs=1
says
 they plan

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RE: [RE][scifinoir2] CBS Picks Up NBC's Canceled 'Medium' LL Cool J Gets NCIS

2009-05-23 Thread Reece Jennings
I am so with you!  I was on the FLOOR about how such a professional team
reacted like little kids
when they found out LJ Gibbs had a father!  Oh, lawd!!!

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From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Tracey de Morsella
Sent: Saturday, May 23, 2009 1:40 PM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
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I loved that interaction too.  I hope they bring Ralph Waite back.  So far
they have only brought him back for a brief phone cameo

From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Reece Jennings
Sent: Saturday, May 23, 2009 10:02 AM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
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Gets NCIS






Same here!  But it was nice to see his interaction with his father, who
adored his son as

dads do!  And his look as he sped away in his bee-machine...priceless!

And all dad wanted was the hug, and the 'dad' he got.  That moment was too
much for me...

I couldn't help but make the connection between Ralph Waite and John-boy...

  _  

From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Martin Baxter
Sent: Saturday, May 23, 2009 9:29 AM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [RE][scifinoir2] CBS Picks Up NBC's Canceled 'Medium' LL Cool J
Gets NCIS


That it was. It did surprise me that he was from Pennsylvania. With a middle
name like Jethro, I was *sure* that he was from Thuh Lil' Ole Souf...





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Date : Fri, 22 May 2009 22:51:27 -0400
From : Reece Jennings mcjennings...@yahoo.com
To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com

I just watched the episode when LeRoy went back to his home town. 
Excellent! 
And finding out that his father named him after a close friend who was 
African American 
was very cool. 

_ 

From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Martin Baxter 
Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 6:11 PM 
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Subject: RE: [RE][scifinoir2] CBS Picks Up NBC's Canceled 'Medium' LL Cool J

Gets NCIS 






They did. Maybe it's just a matter of them needing time to gell in my eyes. 
I'm spoiled because, for me, NCIS clicked right off the bat. 







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J Gets NCIS 
Date : Fri, 22 May 2009 09:19:44 -0700 
From : Tracey de Morsella 
To : 

Did you watch the who thing? I thought the team ended up with some good 
chemistry in the end. 



From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Martin Baxter 
Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 4:54 AM 
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Subject: [RE][scifinoir2] CBS Picks Up NBC's Canceled 'Medium' LL Cool J 
Gets NCIS 









As for the NCIS spinoff, I tasted that one four minutes into the two-parter 
that introduced the new team. IMDB didn't even bother to hide it, clearly 
placing a spin-off' tag in with the rollover keywords. Might work. I'm a 
big NCIS fan, and I wasn't too keen on the lack of team interplay within 
that NCIS has always had. 





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NCIS 
Date : Fri, 22 May 2009 00:17:39 -0700 
From : Tracey de Morsella 
To : 

NEW YORK - A couple of television crime-fighters are on the move: Patricia 
Arquette and Medium from NBC to CBS, and Simon Baker's  

...html The Mentalist to CBS' Thursday-night lineup. 

CBS, the last of the top four broadcasters to reveal its fall schedule to 
advertisers this week, said it was canceling Without a Trace, The Unit 
and Eleventh Hour. New series with Jenna Elfman and Julianna Margulies are


moving in. 

The nation's most popular network is a model of stability in a roiled 
broadcast industry. It's the only network with more viewers this season than


last, yet had less advertising revenue than its previous year because of a 
depressed market. 

Sensitive about a stodgy image, CBS Corp. chief executive Leslie Moonves 
cited in a presentation to advertisers on Wednesday a newspaper article that


talked about the network's ratings successes despite not being sexy. 

When you come right down to it, winning really is the only sexy thing out 
there, Moonves said. 

CBS moved quickly to grab Medium. As an aging show, production costs were 
going up. But since it is made by a production company owned by CBS Corp., 
the costs were more easily absorbed by CBS. It lands on CBS' Friday schedule


at 9 p.m., between Ghost Whisperer and Numb3rs. 

Simon Baker's The Mentalist was broadcast TV's only real new hit this 
season, and CBS decided to move it from Tuesday nights to Thursday at 10 
p.m. 

Thursdays are important for networks as they seek

RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Pushing Daisies

2009-05-22 Thread Reece Jennings
:o)

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From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Martin Baxter
Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2009 7:59 PM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Pushing Daisies






More than welcome, my friend! And, if you're hanging out with a group of BG
fans and you *really* want to cheese them off, use frelling in place of
frakking. (They don't like MuppetSpeak.)







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To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com

Cool! Either way, I love it! THanks, Martin! 

_ 

From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Martin Baxter 
Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2009 12:48 PM 
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Reece, I've seen BG fans toss the word out under both spellings. 







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Date : Wed, 20 May 2009 23:39:58 -0400 
From : Reece Jennings 
To : 

LOL at Frakk! I thought it was spelled Frack, what with it's substitution 
usage and all!!! 

_ 

From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On 
Behalf Of James Landrith 
Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 12:16 PM 
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
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About frakking time. 


--- In scifino...@yahoogro ups.com, 
Bosco Bosco wrote: 
 
 
 I'm told a NEW Pushing Daisies episode will air on Saturday May 30th. 
Check your local listings. Set your DVR's. It's Daisy time 
 
 Bosco 
 







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RE: [RE][scifinoir2] CBS Picks Up NBC's Canceled 'Medium' LL Cool J Gets NCIS

2009-05-22 Thread Reece Jennings
I just watched the episode when LeRoy went back to his home town.
Excellent!
And finding out that his father named him after a close friend who was
African American
was very cool.  

  _  

From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Martin Baxter
Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 6:11 PM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [RE][scifinoir2] CBS Picks Up NBC's Canceled 'Medium' LL Cool J
Gets NCIS






They did. Maybe it's just a matter of them needing time to gell in my eyes.
I'm spoiled because, for me, NCIS clicked right off the bat.







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Date : Fri, 22 May 2009 09:19:44 -0700
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To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com

Did you watch the who thing? I thought the team ended up with some good
chemistry in the end. 



From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Martin Baxter 
Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 4:54 AM 
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Subject: [RE][scifinoir2] CBS Picks Up NBC's Canceled 'Medium' LL Cool J
Gets NCIS 









As for the NCIS spinoff, I tasted that one four minutes into the two-parter
that introduced the new team. IMDB didn't even bother to hide it, clearly
placing a spin-off' tag in with the rollover keywords. Might work. I'm a
big NCIS fan, and I wasn't too keen on the lack of team interplay within
that NCIS has always had. 





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To : 

NEW YORK - A couple of television crime-fighters are on the move: Patricia 
Arquette and Medium from NBC to CBS, and Simon Baker's  

..html The Mentalist to CBS' Thursday-night lineup. 

CBS, the last of the top four broadcasters to reveal its fall schedule to 
advertisers this week, said it was canceling Without a Trace, The Unit 
and Eleventh Hour. New series with Jenna Elfman and Julianna Margulies are

moving in. 

The nation's most popular network is a model of stability in a roiled 
broadcast industry. It's the only network with more viewers this season than

last, yet had less advertising revenue than its previous year because of a 
depressed market. 

Sensitive about a stodgy image, CBS Corp. chief executive Leslie Moonves 
cited in a presentation to advertisers on Wednesday a newspaper article that

talked about the network's ratings successes despite not being sexy. 

When you come right down to it, winning really is the only sexy thing out 
there, Moonves said. 

CBS moved quickly to grab Medium. As an aging show, production costs were 
going up. But since it is made by a production company owned by CBS Corp., 
the costs were more easily absorbed by CBS. It lands on CBS' Friday schedule

at 9 p.m., between Ghost Whisperer and Numb3rs. 

Simon Baker's The Mentalist was broadcast TV's only real new hit this 
season, and CBS decided to move it from Tuesday nights to Thursday at 10 
p.m. 

Thursdays are important for networks as they seek income from advertisers 
like film studios looking ahead to the weekend. CBS also said it sees the 
chance to gain a competitive edge at 10 p.m. with NBC's decision to air Jay 
Leno's new comedy show at that hour each weeknight 





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RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Pushing Daisies

2009-05-21 Thread Reece Jennings
Cool!  Either way, I love it!  THanks, Martin!

  _  

From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On
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Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2009 12:48 PM
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Reece, I've seen BG fans toss the word out under both spellings.







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LOL at Frakk! I thought it was spelled Frack, what with it's substitution 
usage and all!!! 

_ 

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Behalf Of James Landrith 
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About frakking time. 


--- In scifino...@yahoogro ups.com, 
Bosco Bosco wrote: 
 
 
 I'm told a NEW Pushing Daisies episode will air on Saturday May 30th. 
Check your local listings. Set your DVR's. It's Daisy time 
 
 Bosco 
 







http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQdwk8Yntds 




RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Pushing Daisies

2009-05-20 Thread Reece Jennings
LOL at Frakk!  I thought it was spelled Frack, what with it's substitution
usage and all!!!

  _  

From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of James Landrith
Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 12:16 PM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
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About frakking time.


--- In scifino...@yahoogro mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com ups.com,
Bosco Bosco ironpi...@... wrote:

 
 I'm told a NEW Pushing Daisies episode will air on Saturday May 30th.
Check your local listings. Set your DVR's. It's Daisy time
 
 Bosco





RE: [scifinoir2] IMAX Boosts Star Trek's Gross

2009-05-16 Thread Reece Jennings
I loved the movie!

  _  

From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Tracey de Morsella
Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2009 1:45 AM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com; ggs...@yahoo.com
Subject: [scifinoir2] IMAX Boosts Star Trek's Gross







IMAX Boosts Star Trek's Gross


15 May 2009 2:41 AM, PDT

More than 10 percent of Star  http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0796366/ Trek's
opening gross of $79.2 million came from just 2.1 percent of the screens
showing it -- those in the IMAX format, the giant-screen company said
Thursday. The $8.5 million in ticket sales represented the biggest opening
weekend for any IMAX release. The company made its announcement as an online
controversy developed over comments by Aziz Ansari
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2106637/ , a star of NBC's new sitcom Parks and
Recreation http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1266020/ , posted on his Twitter
site and his blog, complaining that the IMAX screen he saw the movie on was
only a slightly bigger-than-normal screen and Not the usual standard huge
72-foot IMAX screen. The theater which showed the movie using a digital
projector on the smaller screen amounted to what Ansari called fake IMAX.
His reaction: I just got ripped off for $5.00 [the premium charged for IMAX
screenings]. Do I get my money back? Reports indicate that a majority of
the new IMAX screens are far smaller than the original ones. In the Los
Angeles Times, Patrick  http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1141438/ Goldstein, who
writes a column coincidentally called The Big Picture, described Ansari's
rant as citizen journalism at its best and remarked that it touched a
populist nerve.

http://www.imdb.com/news/ni0786956/




RE: [RE][scifinoir2] Newbie: Hello from Author Michelle Lauren

2009-05-16 Thread Reece Jennings
Ditto, Michelle, on the welcome.  And the bizarre behavior feeds on itself!
:o)
 
Maurice
 

  _  

From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Martin Baxter
Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2009 8:08 AM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [RE][scifinoir2] Newbie: Hello from Author Michelle Lauren






Welcome to the group, Michelle! And please don't be afraid of the sometimes
bizarre behavior you may see here. 

The Internet made me this way. ;-)







-[ Received Mail Content ]--
Subject : [scifinoir2] Newbie: Hello from Author Michelle Lauren
Date : Sat, 16 May 2009 11:10:01 -
From : Michelle Lauren miche...@michellelaurenbooks.com
To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com

Hi everyone. I just joined the group and wanted to introduce myself. I'm 
a published author, a freelance writer and a regular columnist for 
Romance Writers Report, the national magazine for Romance Writers of 
America. I am an eclectic reader, but I truly enjoy reading (and 
writing) sci-fi-futuristic and urban fantasy romances with multicultural 
characters. 

My first book published with Liquid Silver Books is called STARSTRUCK: 
HUNTER, a multicultural sci-fi romance. There is a link to it in my 
signature line if you want to read a blurb. And, if you're interested, 
I'm being interviewed today about the book and I'm giving away a 
Border's Gift Card. (Here's the interview link: 
http://jennifersrandommusings.wordpress.com) 

I'm a big fan of Joss Whedon (I saw some discussion here about his show 
DOLLHOUSE likely getting renewed for Season 2 -- thank goodness! I love 
that show). I hope to chat more with you all soon. 


Michelle Lauren 
STARSTRUCK: HUNTER(Multicultural Sci-Fi Romance)Available from Liquid 
Silver Books 
Buy Link: http://www.liquidsilverbooks.com/books/starstruckhunter.htm 

HOW TO TAME A HARPY ~ a Romantic Times magazine American Title V 
finalist 
http://www.michellelaurenbooks.com 
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/michellelaurenbooks/join 
../../../../../michellelaurenbooks/join (Join for 
excerpts,contests, interviews  more!) 





http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQdwk8Yntds 




RE: [RE][scifinoir2] Best DUI ever (again, 4 Reece)

2009-05-16 Thread Reece Jennings
.snort..burpcough...huh?
Did I miss something?
 
Sounds like there was a DUI video...?
But from what you said about Z to A...?  That's not a valid test.  Can you
do it WITHOUT
being under the influence?  (notice as an ex-sergeant, I didn't say DRUNK!)
 
Counting backwards is a valid test.  NOT saying the alphabet backwards.  
 
A good lawyer would have him out right after the cop couldn't do the
backwards alphabet!
 
Now..where was I?   Oh, yeah
 
zz
 
:o)
 

  _  

From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Martin Baxter
Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2009 8:02 AM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [RE][scifinoir2] Best DUI ever (again, 4 Reece)






After the Z-to-A backwards thing, I would've been cuffed and stuffed.







-[ Received Mail Content ]--
Subject : [scifinoir2] Best DUI ever (again, 4 Reece) [1 Attachment]
Date : Fri, 15 May 2009 17:29:58 -0700 (PDT)
From : Augustus Augustus jazzynupe_...@yahoo.com
To : Sci Fi scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com



Fate. 

  







http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQdwk8Yntds 




RE: [scifinoir2] topic: They are here

2009-05-15 Thread Reece Jennings
LOL!  Amen!

  _  

From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Martin Baxter
Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2009 8:27 PM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] topic: They are here






Let's just say that I won't be making any sudden moves for the duration of
my stay in SciFiNoir...







-[ Received Mail Content ]--
Subject : RE: [scifinoir2] topic: They are here
Date : Thu, 14 May 2009 18:15:18 -0400
From : Reece Jennings mcjennings...@yahoo.com
To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com

Gunnery Sergeant Fate 
2d Recon / 2d MarDiv 

RECON! These are not JUST Marines. They are the MARINES of marines! 
And Gunny Fate? Isn't that just a little scary??? 

HOO-Rah! 

_ 

From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Martin Baxter 
Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2009 2:29 PM 
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] topic: They are here 






I hear you, Gunny. 







-[ Received Mail Content ]-- 
Subject : Re: [scifinoir2] topic: They are here 
Date : Thu, 14 May 2009 08:53:37 -0700 (PDT) 
From : Augustus Augustus 
To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 

O.K. let's start with Will in ID. he is dragging the alien 2 a military 
base that he saw when he was being chased. yes 4 all he know the earth 
could be under alien control, but that does not stop him from his duty. his 
duty is get the alien (because he is alive) 2 his superiors. as 4 the wise 
cracking because his friend (the highly enjoyable harry connick, jr.) that 
is a stress reliever. u would be surprised 2 know the things we do in the 
middle of a fire fight. u have 2 do something 2 keep your mind from 
cracking. trust me, people shooting at u, bombs going off all around u, 
friends and comrades dying, or loosing limbs. u have 2 do something 2 keep 
your sanity. that is what jack o'neal would do. speaking of SG:1, i really 
did like mcgyvers jack o'neal better than jack from the SG:M. 

Fate 
Gunnery Sergeant Fate 
2d Recon / 2d MarDiv 
--- On Thu, 5/14/09, Keith Johnson wrote: 


From: Keith Johnson 
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] topic: They are here 
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Date: Thursday, May 14, 2009, 11:38 AM 









Knowing nothing about the service, I have to yield to your experience. But, 
being calm is one thing, but are you saying it's completely realistic that 
you'd go inside and just calmly shave while a damn flying saucer is hovering

over your house?! Surely a Marine could be forgiven for hanging outside and 
at least assessing the situation, rather than staying inside with a if 
something happens, I'll know attitude? 

But if you say that's par for the course, then let me bow down to you guys. 
Damn! 

Okay, one more scene that irritated me. During the first big battle, Smith's

best friend on Earth is killed. He's seen the USA's forces devastated, he's 
crash landed, and for all he knows, the world is now under alien control. 
Yet, as he's later dragging an unconscious alien across the desert in his 
'chute, he's cracking wise. There was some joke like all that's happened 
and I have to drag your stinky ugly behind across the desert. I thought 
that too was a bit much. Even as a military man, shouldn't be be a little 
more-I don't know, somber--given he just saw his friend die? Is cracking 
jokes on that level--which elicited a whole bunch of guffaws in the 
audience--realistic ? 
It reminded me of Jack O'Neil on SG-1, whose wisecracks in the face of 
danger started getting on my nerves, and I'm not even sure O'Neill would 
have been wisecracking like that so soon after such a battle and loss. 

But then, I'm an idealistic, liberal writer, not a soldier... 

- Original Message - 
From: Augustus Augustus 
To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com 
Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2009 11:07:38 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] topic: They are here 












Keith, 

i have 2 disagree with you on the Will Smith part of ID. being a Marine 
myself (he only plays one in the movie), and having been 2 both Iraq and 
Afghanistan, u are trained 2 be level headed. never go looking 4 a fight, 
and never assume that someone or something that is new is always out 2 kill 
u. so in that scene, me and the Marines i saw it with were like, yeah, he 
got that part totally correct. we bitched about how he wore our uniform, 
but that is a separate issue. 

Fate. 

--- On Thu, 5/14/09, Keith Johnson wrote: 


From: Keith Johnson 
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] topic: They are here 
To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com 
Date: Thursday, May 14, 2009, 10:46 AM 





Call everyone I know...turn on the TV and radio to get news updates from 
both at once... take my laptop outside so I could watch the ship while 
surfing the Net for more news...check my emergency kit and plans 
(flashlight, batteries, snacks, bottled water, gas in car, tire pressure, 
map, escape route, clothes, etc.) in case things go bad, and we lose power

RE: [scifinoir2] Eye catching

2009-05-15 Thread Reece Jennings
I DID!  And I was MAD at myself!  KIDDING!
It was MASSIVELY funny!

  _  

From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Augustus Augustus
Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2009 9:16 PM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Eye catching






Reece,

my friend, what's the problem?  u know u laughed.  u had 2 laugh!

--- On Thu, 5/14/09, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@lycos.com wrote:




From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@lycos.com
Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Eye catching
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, May 14, 2009, 8:30 PM





(holding Reece back... could use some help over here!)







-[ Received Mail Content ]--
Subject : RE: [scifinoir2] Eye catching
Date : Thu, 14 May 2009 18:07:10 -0400
From : Reece Jennings mcjennings124@ yahoo.com
To : scifino...@yahoogro ups.com

Only on your word, Martin. HOLD ME BACK! HLLDDD ME BACK!!! 
Actually, Aug-Aug, it was VERY funny, in a groaning, giggling, hands around 
the throat 
sort of way! LOL! 

_ 

From: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com [mailto:scifinoir2@ yahoogroups. com] On 
Behalf Of Martin Baxter 
Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2009 11:38 AM 
To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com 
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Eye catching 






Reece, IMO, he deserves a reprieve, for delivering such quality! 







-[ Received Mail Content ]-- 
Subject : Re: [scifinoir2] Eye catching 
Date : Thu, 14 May 2009 15:24:59 + 
From : mcjennings124@ yahoo.com 
To : SciFi2 

I have to wait until you're asleep. Then I'm going to kill you! 
Can't do it while you're awake. You're a Marine!!! 
LOL! 

Sent via BlackBerry by ATT 

-Original Message- 
From: Augustus Augustus 

Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 08:14:42 
To: Sci Fi; Sammie Bibb 
Subject: [scifinoir2] Eye catching 


A man is dining in a fancy restaurant and there is a gorgeous redhead 
sitting at the next table. He has been checking her out since he sat down, 
but lacks the nerve to talk with her. 

Suddenly she sneezes, and her glass eye comes flying out of its socket 
toward the man. He reflexively reaches out, grabs it out of the air, and 
hands it back. 

'Oh my, I am so sorry,' the woman says as she pops her eye back in place. 


'Let me buy your dinner to make it up to you,' she says. 


They enjoy a wonderful dinner together, and afterwards they go to the 
theatre followed by drinks. They talk, they laugh, she shares her deepest 
dreams and he shares his. She listens. 

After paying for everything, she asks him if he would like to come to her 
place for a nightcap and stay for breakfast. They had a wonderful, wonderful


time. 

The next morning, she cooks a gourmet meal with all the trimmings. The guy 
is amazed. Everything had been SO incredible! 







You know,' he said, 'you are the perfect woman. Are you this nice to every 
guy you meet?' 











'No,' she replies. . . 















Wait for it. . . 

















It's coming. . . 

















The suspense is killing you, isn't it? 









































She says: 





'You just happened to catch my eye.' 











(Oh shut up, and just forward it!) 








http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=JQdwk8Yntds 







http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=JQdwk8Yntds 





RE: [scifinoir2] topic: They are here

2009-05-15 Thread Reece Jennings
Actually, I believe you!  I doubt that anyone in this group has done
anything REALLY bad.
And no, I'm not asking...OR telling!  :o)
 

  _  

From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Aubrey Leatherwood
Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2009 9:37 PM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] topic: They are here






I didn't! I swear!

Aubrey Leatherwood
 http://www.aubreyleatherwood.com/ www.aubreyleatherwood.com
 http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1400087918 FaceBook *
http://www.myspace.com/aubreymleatherwood MySpace
http://www.lyricalpress.com/imperfection.html Imperfection
A tale of perfect commitment, perfect love... and perfect sex.
 http://www.lyricalpress.com/the_people_you_know_the_sex_they_have.html
The People You Know, The Sex They Have
ROMANTIC TIMES NOMINEE FOR BEST CONTEMPORARY EROTICA 2008
ISBN: 978-0-9818905-0-0





 


  _  

To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: mcjennings...@yahoo.com
Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 18:49:32 -0400
Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] topic: They are here




You probably DID do it!  Beware those who doth protesteth!
 
Maurice 'Reece' Jennings
Bloomfield CT Police Department
Patrol Officer
Detective
Patrol Sergeant
Senior Patrol Sergeant
Retired Senior Patrol Sergeant
 
 

  _  

From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Aubrey Leatherwood
Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2009 4:51 PM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] topic: They are here



The amount of civilian and law enforcement on this group requires me to
say... Hey, man, I didn't do it!

Aubrey Leatherwood
 http://www.aubreyleatherwood.com/ www.aubreyleatherwood.com
 http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1400087918 FaceBook *
http://www.myspace.com/aubreymleatherwood MySpace 
 http://www.lyricalpress.com/imperfection.html Imperfection
A tale of perfect commitment, perfect love... and perfect sex.
 http://www.lyricalpress.com/the_people_you_know_the_sex_they_have..html
The People You Know, The Sex They Have
ROMANTIC TIMES NOMINEE FOR BEST CONTEMPORARY EROTICA 2008
ISBN: 978-0-9818905-0-0





 


  _  

To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net
Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 16:37:42 +
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] topic: They are here




Guys this is great! Apparently we have a wealth of military and civilian law
enforcement experience in this group! T
You should chime in more with comments from your unique perspectives.  I
know your experiences, knowledge, and viewpoints could enhance discussions
on everything from how the people act on BSG to how teams are deployed in
SG-1, to how often soldiers in real life get away with arguing with their
commanders the way most scifi soldiers do. Those are angles we rarely
discuss.
Keep up the great input! I find it fascinating!



- Original Message -
From: George Arterberry brotherfromhow...@yahoo.com
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2009 12:10:30 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] topic: They are here






I've been deployed to several theaters and trust me.war and an alien
mothership first contact situation are two different things no matter what
service you were a part of.

--- On Thu, 5/14/09, Augustus Augustus jazzynupe_...@yahoo.com wrote:




From: Augustus Augustus jazzynupe_...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] topic: They are here
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, May 14, 2009, 11:07 AM



Keith,
 
i have 2 disagree with you on the Will Smith part of ID.  being a Marine
myself (he only plays one in the movie), and having been 2 both Iraq and
Afghanistan, u are trained 2 be level headed.  never go looking 4 a fight,
and never assume that someone or something that is new is always out 2 kill
u.  so in that scene, me and the Marines i saw it with were like, yeah, he
got that part totally correct.  we bitched about how he wore our uniform,
but that is a separate issue.
 
Fate.

--- On Thu, 5/14/09, Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ comcast.net wrote:



From: Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ comcast.net
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] topic: They are here
To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com
Date: Thursday, May 14, 2009, 10:46 AM


Call everyone I know...turn on the TV and radio to get news updates from
both at once... take my laptop outside so I could watch the ship while
surfing the Net for more news...check my emergency kit and plans
(flashlight, batteries, snacks, bottled water, gas in car, tire pressure,
map, escape route, clothes, etc.) in case things go bad, and we lose power
as the invasion starts and I need to make a getaway to the mountains... get
my Bible, pray to God all will be okay, and start pondering the impact on
religious thought and culture as other beings with souls are finally
discovered.. .

Incidentally, good question. One of my pet peeves with the movie
Independence Day--which is not a fav of mine, actually--is Will Smith's
reaction when the aliens appeared. While

RE: [scifinoir2] topic: They are here

2009-05-15 Thread Reece Jennings
LOLLOL!!!

  _  

From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Aubrey Leatherwood
Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2009 9:40 PM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] topic: They are here





I'm just glad I didn't put any of *my* titles in my sig! lol

Aubrey Leatherwood
 http://www.aubreyleatherwood.com/ www.aubreyleatherwood.com
 http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1400087918 FaceBook *
http://www.myspace.com/aubreymleatherwood MySpace
http://www.lyricalpress.com/imperfection.html Imperfection
A tale of perfect commitment, perfect love... and perfect sex.
 http://www.lyricalpress.com/the_people_you_know_the_sex_they_have.html
The People You Know, The Sex They Have
ROMANTIC TIMES NOMINEE FOR BEST CONTEMPORARY EROTICA 2008
ISBN: 978-0-9818905-0-0





 


  _  

To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: truthseeker...@lycos.com
Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 20:23:06 -0400
Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] topic: They are here




I did try to warn you, Aubrey...







-[ Received Mail Content ]--
Subject : RE: [scifinoir2] topic: They are here
Date : Thu, 14 May 2009 18:49:32 -0400
From : Reece Jennings mcjennings...@yahoo.com
To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com

You probably DID do it! Beware those who doth protesteth! 

Maurice 'Reece' Jennings 
Bloomfield CT Police Department 
Patrol Officer 
Detective 
Patrol Sergeant 
Senior Patrol Sergeant 
Retired Senior Patrol Sergeant 



_ 

From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Aubrey Leatherwood 
Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2009 4:51 PM 
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] topic: They are here 





The amount of civilian and law enforcement on this group requires me to 
say... Hey, man, I didn't do it! 

Aubrey Leatherwood 
www.aubreyleatherwood.com 
FaceBook * 
MySpace 
Imperfection 
A tale of perfect commitment, perfect love... and perfect sex. 

The People You Know, The Sex They Have 
ROMANTIC TIMES NOMINEE FOR BEST CONTEMPORARY EROTICA 2008 
ISBN: 978-0-9818905-0-0 








_ 

To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net 
Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 16:37:42 + 
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] topic: They are here 




Guys this is great! Apparently we have a wealth of military and civilian law

enforcement experience in this group! T 
You should chime in more with comments from your unique perspectives. I 
know your experiences, knowledge, and viewpoints could enhance discussions 
on everything from how the people act on BSG to how teams are deployed in 
SG-1, to how often soldiers in real life get away with arguing with their 
commanders the way most scifi soldiers do. Those are angles we rarely 
discuss. 
Keep up the great input! I find it fascinating! 



- Original Message - 
From: George Arterberry 
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2009 12:10:30 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] topic: They are here 






I've been deployed to several theaters and trust me.war and an alien 
mothership first contact situation are two different things no matter what 
service you were a part of. 

--- On Thu, 5/14/09, Augustus Augustus wrote: 




From: Augustus Augustus 
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] topic: They are here 
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Date: Thursday, May 14, 2009, 11:07 AM 



Keith, 

i have 2 disagree with you on the Will Smith part of ID. being a Marine 
myself (he only plays one in the movie), and having been 2 both Iraq and 
Afghanistan, u are trained 2 be level headed. never go looking 4 a fight, 
and never assume that someone or something that is new is always out 2 kill 
u. so in that scene, me and the Marines i saw it with were like, yeah, he 
got that part totally correct. we bitched about how he wore our uniform, 
but that is a separate issue. 

Fate. 

--- On Thu, 5/14/09, Keith Johnson wrote: 



From: Keith Johnson 
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] topic: They are here 
To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com 
Date: Thursday, May 14, 2009, 10:46 AM 


Call everyone I know...turn on the TV and radio to get news updates from 
both at once... take my laptop outside so I could watch the ship while 
surfing the Net for more news...check my emergency kit and plans 
(flashlight, batteries, snacks, bottled water, gas in car, tire pressure, 
map, escape route, clothes, etc.) in case things go bad, and we lose power 
as the invasion starts and I need to make a getaway to the mountains... get 
my Bible, pray to God all will be okay, and start pondering the impact on 
religious thought and culture as other beings with souls are finally 
discovered.. . 

Incidentally, good question. One of my pet peeves with the movie 
Independence Day--which is not a fav of mine, actually--is Will Smith's 
reaction when the aliens appeared. While his girlfriend and everyone in his 
neighborhood was outside gawking at the ships, Smith is shown calmly 
shaving, as if nothing's all that amiss. I

RE: [scifinoir2] topic: They are here

2009-05-15 Thread Reece Jennings
I'm reading an e-book on HypnoticMarketing, and one of the directives...?
Toot your own horn.
 
RULE 3: Toot your own horn. If you don't tell the media what you've done,
they'll never know. So

prepare press releases and get on the phone to the people you most want to
hear your story.

Shankman, a regular reader of USA Today, suspected that the writer/editor of
his favorite

column might be interested in his story, so he gave her a call.


  _  

From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Aubrey Leatherwood
Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2009 9:40 PM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] topic: They are here





I'm just glad I didn't put any of *my* titles in my sig! lol

Aubrey Leatherwood
 http://www.aubreyleatherwood.com/ www.aubreyleatherwood.com
 http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1400087918 FaceBook *
http://www.myspace.com/aubreymleatherwood MySpace
http://www.lyricalpress.com/imperfection.html Imperfection
A tale of perfect commitment, perfect love... and perfect sex.
 http://www.lyricalpress.com/the_people_you_know_the_sex_they_have.html
The People You Know, The Sex They Have
ROMANTIC TIMES NOMINEE FOR BEST CONTEMPORARY EROTICA 2008
ISBN: 978-0-9818905-0-0





 


  _  

To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: truthseeker...@lycos.com
Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 20:23:06 -0400
Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] topic: They are here




I did try to warn you, Aubrey...







-[ Received Mail Content ]--
Subject : RE: [scifinoir2] topic: They are here
Date : Thu, 14 May 2009 18:49:32 -0400
From : Reece Jennings mcjennings...@yahoo.com
To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com

You probably DID do it! Beware those who doth protesteth! 

Maurice 'Reece' Jennings 
Bloomfield CT Police Department 
Patrol Officer 
Detective 
Patrol Sergeant 
Senior Patrol Sergeant 
Retired Senior Patrol Sergeant 



_ 

From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Aubrey Leatherwood 
Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2009 4:51 PM 
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] topic: They are here 





The amount of civilian and law enforcement on this group requires me to 
say... Hey, man, I didn't do it! 

Aubrey Leatherwood 
www.aubreyleatherwood.com 
FaceBook * 
MySpace 
Imperfection 
A tale of perfect commitment, perfect love... and perfect sex. 

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To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net 
Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 16:37:42 + 
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] topic: They are here 




Guys this is great! Apparently we have a wealth of military and civilian law

enforcement experience in this group! T 
You should chime in more with comments from your unique perspectives. I 
know your experiences, knowledge, and viewpoints could enhance discussions 
on everything from how the people act on BSG to how teams are deployed in 
SG-1, to how often soldiers in real life get away with arguing with their 
commanders the way most scifi soldiers do. Those are angles we rarely 
discuss. 
Keep up the great input! I find it fascinating! 



- Original Message - 
From: George Arterberry 
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2009 12:10:30 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] topic: They are here 






I've been deployed to several theaters and trust me.war and an alien 
mothership first contact situation are two different things no matter what 
service you were a part of. 

--- On Thu, 5/14/09, Augustus Augustus wrote: 




From: Augustus Augustus 
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] topic: They are here 
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Date: Thursday, May 14, 2009, 11:07 AM 



Keith, 

i have 2 disagree with you on the Will Smith part of ID. being a Marine 
myself (he only plays one in the movie), and having been 2 both Iraq and 
Afghanistan, u are trained 2 be level headed. never go looking 4 a fight, 
and never assume that someone or something that is new is always out 2 kill 
u. so in that scene, me and the Marines i saw it with were like, yeah, he 
got that part totally correct. we bitched about how he wore our uniform, 
but that is a separate issue. 

Fate. 

--- On Thu, 5/14/09, Keith Johnson wrote: 



From: Keith Johnson 
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] topic: They are here 
To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com 
Date: Thursday, May 14, 2009, 10:46 AM 


Call everyone I know...turn on the TV and radio to get news updates from 
both at once... take my laptop outside so I could watch the ship while 
surfing the Net for more news...check my emergency kit and plans 
(flashlight, batteries, snacks, bottled water, gas in car, tire pressure, 
map, escape route, clothes, etc.) in case things go bad, and we lose power 
as the invasion starts and I need to make a getaway to the mountains... get 
my Bible, pray to God all will be okay, and start pondering

RE: [scifinoir2] topic: They are here

2009-05-15 Thread Reece Jennings
You didn't salute???   :o)
 
Sometimes I'm really glad the science is glossed over for the emotional
effects
of the movie.  This was one of those times.  I liked that Will Smith and
Vivica Fox
had such a love story.  I enjoyed the lightness made of it, the hugeness of
the enemies,
and the usage of the cliche'd lines and moves...like dragging the 'alien'
into camp!
 
And as for communicating with the 'aliens'...I thought the aliens did a
pretty good job
of communicating with us when they started shooting the crap out of us. 
 
It was funny along the lines of Mars Attacks.  That was a hoot!
 
Yes...I'm off my medication...

  _  

From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Mr. Worf
Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2009 9:41 PM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] topic: They are here





I wanted to salute during the speech in independence day. :)  I totally
agree about the lazy writing. Independence day was the first movie that I
found myself talking out loud during the movie for the same reason that you
are stating. Scientists are making a lot of assumptions based on some of the
discoveries here. There's no way that we will be able to figure out basic
communication with an alien species.



On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 2:31 PM, Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@
mailto:keithbjohn...@comcast.net comcast.net wrote:




I don't know the locales, but even then it seems unlikely he'd find one
woman and child amidst all that wreckage. Especially since she had to
deviate from the route and hide in that little cubbyhole. Didn't he locate
her at night, to boot? 

As for the computer virus, that's just lazy writing. Whether they use binary
or not as the base language isn't the issue. It's whether you believe that
even a genius computer hack could write a virus small enough to fit on a
floppy that could break the firewalls, anti-virus scans, pop up blockers,
malware/adware detectors, quarantine protections, and heuristics programs (a
feature of anti-virus software that lets the computer look for patterns in
behaviour of new code, and decide that even if it's not *sure* the code is
dangerous, its characteristics make it *likely* it is). 

This is especially difficult to believe since their code would be so
foreign, no way humans could understand it enough to do that in a few days
or even weeks' time.  And difficult to believe since the aliens have a
structure where all ships are tied to the functionality of the mothership--a
convenient and irritating Achille's Heel--that the mothership's computers
could be that vulnerable. There'd be safeguards on top of safeguards,
including a system to simply reject and quarantine any code coming in from
outside normal channels.

Incidentally, I had a similar problem in The Next Generation when Data
working with Picard put the Borg to sleep and caused the Cube to explode.
I was yelling at the screen Come on! No way a race that sophisticated,
built around computerized systems that add the power of all into a big One,
would be fooled like that! Low level program or not, there' be major checks
and balances in every level of the IT infrastructure, from base code to
operating systems to even mechanical safeguards. There'd be systems all
along the way that'd say Hey, we're in the middle of an Assimilation,
everyone wake up!, or Hey, power levels are climbing dangerously high!
Break the circuit and wake up!

I know, I know, nitpicking Independence Day  to death. But like I said for
me it wasn't popcorn-campy enough to put my brain on hold and have fun, so
the brain just kept finding the flaws.  But worst of all, loyal American
that I am, I was most undone by the rah-rah! USA! USA! nature of Pullman's
speech, and the world's militaries literally standing around waiting for the
US to come up with a battle plan! 




- Original Message -
From: Augustus Augustus jazzynupe_007@ mailto:jazzynupe_...@yahoo.com
yahoo.com

To: scifino...@yahoogro mailto:scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com ups.com
Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2009 4:46:37 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] topic: They are here







Mr. Worf, 
a couple of the questions i can answer.  
first - he did not find his girlfriend in LA, he found her at MCAS Yuma
(remember, he told her 2 pack a bag and 4 her and her son 2 come down 2 the
base...so when him and connick flew over LA, connick said
man, i'm sure she made it out.  so it makes sense that he would go 2 Yuma.

second - the computers, i  do not have a clue!  we  are always told that
binary is the universal math.  what if that is not the case? 

--- On Thu, 5/14/09, Mr. Worf HelloMahogany@
mailto:hellomahog...@gmail.com gmail.com wrote:




From: Mr. Worf HelloMahogany@ mailto:hellomahog...@gmail.com gmail.com
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] topic: They are here
To: scifino...@yahoogro mailto:scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com ups.com
Date: Thursday, May 14, 2009, 4:04 PM



Yea, Independence day bugged the crap out of 

RE: [scifinoir2] Eye catching

2009-05-14 Thread Reece Jennings
Only on your word, Martin.  HOLD ME BACK!  HLLDDD ME BACK!!!
Actually, Aug-Aug, it was VERY funny, in a groaning, giggling, hands around
the throat
sort of way!  LOL!

  _  

From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Martin Baxter
Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2009 11:38 AM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Eye catching






Reece, IMO, he deserves a reprieve, for delivering such quality!







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Subject : Re: [scifinoir2] Eye catching
Date : Thu, 14 May 2009 15:24:59 +
From : mcjennings...@yahoo.com
To : SciFi2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com

I have to wait until you're asleep. Then I'm going to kill you! 
Can't do it while you're awake. You're a Marine!!! 
LOL! 

Sent via BlackBerry by ATT 

-Original Message- 
From: Augustus Augustus 

Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 08:14:42 
To: Sci Fi; Sammie Bibb 
Subject: [scifinoir2] Eye catching 


A man is dining in a fancy restaurant and there is a gorgeous redhead 
sitting at the next table. He has been checking her out since he sat down, 
but lacks the nerve to talk with her. 
  
Suddenly she sneezes, and her glass eye comes flying out of its socket 
toward the man. He reflexively  reaches out, grabs it out of the air, and 
hands it back. 
  
'Oh my, I am so sorry,' the woman says as she pops her eye back in place. 
  
  
'Let me buy your dinner to make it up to you,' she says. 
  
  
They enjoy a wonderful dinner together, and afterwards they go to the 
theatre followed by drinks. They talk, they laugh, she shares her deepest 
dreams and he shares his. She listens. 
  
After paying for everything, she asks him if he would like to come to her 
place for a nightcap and stay for breakfast. They had a wonderful, wonderful

time. 
  
The next morning, she cooks a gourmet meal with all the trimmings. The guy 
is amazed. Everything had been SO incredible! 
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
You know,' he said, 'you are the perfect woman. Are you this nice to every 
guy you meet?' 
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
'No,' she replies. . . 
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
Wait for it. . . 
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
It's coming. . . 
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
The suspense is killing you, isn't it? 
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
She says: 
  
  
  
  
  
'You just happened to catch my eye.' 
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
(Oh shut up, and just forward it!) 








http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQdwk8Yntds 




RE: [scifinoir2] Eye catching

2009-05-14 Thread Reece Jennings
LOLLOL!  On second thought...wanna earn a hundred bucks?  chuckle...
Actually, I think they sleep with that K-bar knife between their teeth...

  _  

From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Keith Johnson
Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2009 12:11 PM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Eye catching






He's a Marine. Don't they sleep with one eye open, and a really nasty
Klingon-type knife under their pillows?

- Original Message -
From: mcjennings...@yahoo.com
To: SciFi2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2009 11:24:59 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Eye catching





I have to wait until you're asleep. Then I'm going to kill you!
Can't do it while you're awake. You're a Marine!!!
LOL!


Sent via BlackBerry by ATT

  _  

From: Augustus Augustus 
Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 08:14:42 -0700 (PDT)
To: Sci Fiscifinoir2@yahoogroups.com; Sammie Bibbsbi...@gmail.com
Subject: [scifinoir2] Eye catching




A man is dining in a fancy restaurant and there is a gorgeous redhead

sitting at the next table. He has been checking her out since he sat down,

but lacks the nerve to talk with her. 

 

Suddenly she sneezes, and her glass eye comes flying out of its socket

toward the man. He reflexively  reaches out, grabs it out of the air, and

hands it back. 

 

'Oh my, I am so sorry,' the woman says as she pops her eye back in place. 

 

 

'Let me buy your dinner to make it up to you,' she says. 

 

 

They enjoy a wonderful dinner together, and afterwards they go to the

theatre followed by drinks. They talk, they laugh, she shares her deepest

dreams and he shares his. She listens. 

 

After paying for everything, she asks him if he would like to come to her

place for a nightcap and stay for breakfast. They had a wonderful, wonderful

time. 

 

The next morning, she cooks a gourmet meal with all the trimmings. The guy

is amazed. Everything had been SO incredible!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

You know,' he said, 'you are the perfect woman. Are you this nice to every

guy you meet?' 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

'No,' she replies. . .

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Wait for it. . .

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

It's coming. . .

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The suspense is killing you, isn't it? 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

She says: 

 

 

 

 

 

'You just happened to catch my eye.' 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

(Oh shut up, and just forward it!) 





RE: [scifinoir2] topic: They are here

2009-05-14 Thread Reece Jennings
Gunnery Sergeant Fate 
2d Recon / 2d MarDiv 

RECON!  These are not JUST Marines.  They are the MARINES of marines!
And Gunny Fate?  Isn't that just a little scary???
 
HOO-Rah!

  _  

From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Martin Baxter
Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2009 2:29 PM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] topic: They are here






I hear you, Gunny.







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Subject : Re: [scifinoir2] topic: They are here
Date : Thu, 14 May 2009 08:53:37 -0700 (PDT)
From : Augustus Augustus jazzynupe_...@yahoo.com
To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com

O.K. let's start with Will in ID.  he is dragging the alien 2 a military
base that he saw when he was being chased.  yes 4 all he know the earth
could be under alien control, but that does not stop him from his duty.  his
duty is get the alien (because he is alive) 2 his superiors.  as 4 the wise
cracking because his friend (the highly enjoyable harry connick, jr.) that
is a stress reliever.  u would be surprised 2 know the things we do in the
middle of a fire fight.  u have 2 do something 2 keep your mind from
cracking.  trust me, people shooting at u, bombs going off all around u,
friends and comrades dying, or loosing limbs.  u have 2 do something 2 keep
your sanity.  that is what jack o'neal would do.  speaking of SG:1, i really
did like mcgyvers jack o'neal better than jack from the SG:M. 
  
Fate  
Gunnery Sergeant Fate 
2d Recon / 2d MarDiv 
--- On Thu, 5/14/09, Keith Johnson wrote: 


From: Keith Johnson 
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] topic: They are here 
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Date: Thursday, May 14, 2009, 11:38 AM 









Knowing nothing about the service, I have to yield to your experience. But,
being calm is one thing, but are you saying it's completely realistic that
you'd go inside and just calmly shave while a damn flying saucer is hovering
over your house?! Surely a Marine could be forgiven for hanging outside and
at least assessing the situation, rather than staying inside with a if
something happens, I'll know attitude? 

But if you say that's par for the course, then let me bow down to you guys.
Damn! 

Okay, one more scene that irritated me. During the first big battle, Smith's
best friend on Earth is killed. He's seen the USA's forces devastated, he's
crash landed, and for all he knows, the world is now under alien control.
Yet, as he's later dragging an unconscious alien across the desert in his
'chute, he's cracking wise. There was some joke like all that's happened
and I have to drag your stinky ugly behind across the desert.  I thought
that too was a bit much. Even as a military man, shouldn't be be a little
more-I don't know, somber--given he just saw his friend die? Is cracking
jokes on that level--which elicited a whole bunch of guffaws in the
audience--realistic ? 
It reminded me of Jack O'Neil on SG-1, whose wisecracks in the face of
danger started getting on my nerves, and I'm not even sure O'Neill would
have been wisecracking like that so soon after such a battle and loss. 

But then, I'm an idealistic, liberal writer, not a soldier... 

- Original Message - 
From: Augustus Augustus 
To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com 
Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2009 11:07:38 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] topic: They are here 












Keith, 
  
i have 2 disagree with you on the Will Smith part of ID.  being a Marine
myself (he only plays one in the movie), and having been 2 both Iraq and
Afghanistan, u are trained 2 be level headed.  never go looking 4 a fight,
and never assume that someone or something that is new is always out 2 kill
u.  so in that scene, me and the Marines i saw it with were like, yeah, he
got that part totally correct.  we bitched about how he wore our uniform,
but that is a separate issue. 
  
Fate. 

--- On Thu, 5/14/09, Keith Johnson wrote: 


From: Keith Johnson 
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] topic: They are here 
To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com 
Date: Thursday, May 14, 2009, 10:46 AM 





Call everyone I know...turn on the TV and radio to get news updates from
both at once... take my laptop outside so I could watch the ship while
surfing the Net for more news...check my emergency kit and plans
(flashlight, batteries, snacks, bottled water, gas in car, tire pressure,
map, escape route, clothes, etc.) in case things go bad, and we lose power
as the invasion starts and I need to make a getaway to the mountains... get
my Bible, pray to God all will be okay, and start pondering the impact on
religious thought and culture as other beings with souls are finally
discovered.. . 

Incidentally, good question. One of my pet peeves with the movie
Independence Day--which is not a fav of mine, actually--is Will Smith's
reaction when the aliens appeared. While his girlfriend and everyone in his
neighborhood was outside gawking at the ships, Smith is shown calmly
shaving, as if nothing's all that 

RE: [scifinoir2] topic: They are here

2009-05-14 Thread Reece Jennings
If the flag was backwards on the right sleeve, that's to reflect the
forwards patch on the left.
 


  _  

From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Martin Baxter
Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2009 2:39 PM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] topic: They are here






Fate,

I'm gonna hang the uniform issue on H'Wood rather than Will. The Corps
probably didn't want/wouldn't allow total authenticity. I've noticed that,
in a lot of SF movies, the Stars and Stripes are often worn bass-ackwards, a
simple thing easily caught as inauthentic. (I know this because I watched
ID4 once with my then fifteen-year-old cousin Corey Jr. He spotted it
because his dad was a retired gunny himself.)







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Subject : Re: [scifinoir2] topic: They are here
Date : Thu, 14 May 2009 08:07:38 -0700 (PDT)
From : Augustus Augustus jazzynupe_...@yahoo.com
To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com

Keith, 
  
i have 2 disagree with you on the Will Smith part of ID.  being a Marine
myself (he only plays one in the movie), and having been 2 both Iraq and
Afghanistan, u are trained 2 be level headed.  never go looking 4 a fight,
and never assume that someone or something that is new is always out 2 kill
u.  so in that scene, me and the Marines i saw it with were like, yeah, he
got that part totally correct.  we bitched about how he wore our uniform,
but that is a separate issue. 
  
Fate. 

--- On Thu, 5/14/09, Keith Johnson wrote: 


From: Keith Johnson 
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] topic: They are here 
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Date: Thursday, May 14, 2009, 10:46 AM 









Call everyone I know...turn on the TV and radio to get news updates from
both at once... take my laptop outside so I could watch the ship while
surfing the Net for more news...check my emergency kit and plans
(flashlight, batteries, snacks, bottled water, gas in car, tire pressure,
map, escape route, clothes, etc.) in case things go bad, and we lose power
as the invasion starts and I need to make a getaway to the mountains... get
my Bible, pray to God all will be okay, and start pondering the impact on
religious thought and culture as other beings with souls are finally
discovered.. . 

Incidentally, good question. One of my pet peeves with the movie
Independence Day--which is not a fav of mine, actually--is Will Smith's
reaction when the aliens appeared. While his girlfriend and everyone in his
neighborhood was outside gawking at the ships, Smith is shown calmly
shaving, as if nothing's all that amiss. I remember him telling Vivica Fox
something like They didn't come billions of light years just to kill us. I
remember thinking it was such a phoney and obvious scene, in order to show
just how cool this soon-to-be hero was. The unflappable military stud not
even phased by one of  the greatest events in human history. But it range
false to me... 

- Original Message - 
From: Mr. Worf 
To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com 
Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2009 1:18:44 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: [scifinoir2] topic: They are here 







Early Sunday morning the sun is shining, birds chirping. You get out of bed,
open the curtains and look out the window. Out over the horizon is a large
floating ship about 2/3rds the size of the horizon. They are here. It
finally happened. What would you do? 






















http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQdwk8Yntds 


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