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Your Verhoeven/Schmacher comparison is an apt one. I loved Schmacher's early, funny stuff (to steal a line from Woody Allen). St. Elmo's Fire (pre-Demi Moore boob job) is still a fave of mine and there are many brat pack charms in Lost Boys and Flatliners. ~rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, B Smith daikaij...@... wrote: So did the rest of us. The WTF part at least. Verhoeven's career path reminds me of Joel Schumacher in some ways. They both had very successful careers and then made an ill fated movie(or two) that seemed to derail them. Both recovered but some of their mojo was gone. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Martin Baxter truthseeker013@ wrote: When that came out, Heinlein was reported to have sat up in his grave and muttered, What the f*ck? If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: ravenadal@ Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 00:33:26 + Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Rotten Tomatoes Picks Worst Movies of the Last Decade I know Black Book was critically acclaimed (I still haven't seen it) but Starship Troopers is a hot mess. I still assert Verhoeven hasn't done anything post-Showgirls to rival his work pre-Showgirls. ~(no)rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, B Smith daikaiju66@ wrote: Rave, Verhoeven did Starship Troopers and Black Book post-Showgirls. Starshp Troopers isn't a fave but it was well received and Black Book was critically acclaimed. Unfortunately he also squeezed Hollow Man in there too. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Martin Baxter truthseeker013@ wrote: I *tried* to watch it for the first time back in '07. The laughter put me in too much pain to finish. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: ravenadal@ Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 12:06:16 + Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Rotten Tomatoes Picks Worst Movies of the Last Decade I HATED Showgirls the first time I saw it because, at the time, I adored Paul Verhoeven's films: Fresh and Blood, RoboCop, Total Recall, and Basic Instinct. The phenomenal success of Basic Instinct is the worse thing that could have happened to Verhoeven. He hasn't made a successful movie since. Showgirls is SO big, bloated, overblown, underwritten and BAD, it is almost good. ~rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Martin Baxter truthseeker013@ wrote: rave... you were able to *watch* Showgirls? You're my hero... If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: ravenadal@ Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 03:05:53 + Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Rotten Tomatoes Picks Worst Movies of the Last Decade Did I miss something? I don't see Catwoman on this list. Catwoman clocked a mighty 10% fresh rating and this list starts with Whiteout (number 100) with a 7% fresh rating. It is all down hill from there. While this list is strictly based on the fresh rating these films accrued (or failed to), there should be a distinction between something like Basic Instinct 2 which is high gloss trash(like Showgirls) but watchable and Glitter which is utterly unwatchable. ~(no)rave
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When that came out, Heinlein was reported to have sat up in his grave and muttered, What the f*ck? If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: ravena...@yahoo.com Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 00:33:26 + Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Rotten Tomatoes Picks Worst Movies of the Last Decade I know Black Book was critically acclaimed (I still haven't seen it) but Starship Troopers is a hot mess. I still assert Verhoeven hasn't done anything post-Showgirls to rival his work pre-Showgirls. ~(no)rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, B Smith daikaij...@... wrote: Rave, Verhoeven did Starship Troopers and Black Book post-Showgirls. Starshp Troopers isn't a fave but it was well received and Black Book was critically acclaimed. Unfortunately he also squeezed Hollow Man in there too. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Martin Baxter truthseeker013@ wrote: I *tried* to watch it for the first time back in '07. The laughter put me in too much pain to finish. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: ravenadal@ Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 12:06:16 + Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Rotten Tomatoes Picks Worst Movies of the Last Decade I HATED Showgirls the first time I saw it because, at the time, I adored Paul Verhoeven's films: Fresh and Blood, RoboCop, Total Recall, and Basic Instinct. The phenomenal success of Basic Instinct is the worse thing that could have happened to Verhoeven. He hasn't made a successful movie since. Showgirls is SO big, bloated, overblown, underwritten and BAD, it is almost good. ~rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Martin Baxter truthseeker013@ wrote: rave... you were able to *watch* Showgirls? You're my hero... If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: ravenadal@ Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 03:05:53 + Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Rotten Tomatoes Picks Worst Movies of the Last Decade Did I miss something? I don't see Catwoman on this list. Catwoman clocked a mighty 10% fresh rating and this list starts with Whiteout (number 100) with a 7% fresh rating. It is all down hill from there. While this list is strictly based on the fresh rating these films accrued (or failed to), there should be a distinction between something like Basic Instinct 2 which is high gloss trash(like Showgirls) but watchable and Glitter which is utterly unwatchable. ~(no)rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ wrote: Not at all surprised to see Catwoman on tis list, despite some of you who inexplicably thought it was some kind of sly tongue-in-cheek masterpiece.(George, didn't you send a favorable review of it from England? ) Also not surprised to see Battlefield Earth on there. I tried to watch that one rainy Sunday morning when I didn't want to go anywhere--and turned the channel after ten minutes. Never saw this Ballistic: Ecks vs. Sever flick. The trailers were so bad I avoided it. Same for Eddie Murphy's Adventures of Pluto Nash, Norbit, and anything with Big Mamma in the title. Thoughts? Anything on here undeservedly, to your mind? Anything not on here that should be? * http://www.rottentomatoes.com/guides/worst_of_the_worst/ Intro | How It Works Over the last decade, we've collected reviews for thousands of movies. Most films, even profoundly mediocre ones, can expect to receive at least cursory support from the pundits
[scifinoir2] Re: Rotten Tomatoes Picks Worst Movies of the Last Decade
So did the rest of us. The WTF part at least. Verhoeven's career path reminds me of Joel Schumacher in some ways. They both had very successful careers and then made an ill fated movie(or two) that seemed to derail them. Both recovered but some of their mojo was gone. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@... wrote: When that came out, Heinlein was reported to have sat up in his grave and muttered, What the f*ck? If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: ravena...@... Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 00:33:26 + Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Rotten Tomatoes Picks Worst Movies of the Last Decade I know Black Book was critically acclaimed (I still haven't seen it) but Starship Troopers is a hot mess. I still assert Verhoeven hasn't done anything post-Showgirls to rival his work pre-Showgirls. ~(no)rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, B Smith daikaiju66@ wrote: Rave, Verhoeven did Starship Troopers and Black Book post-Showgirls. Starshp Troopers isn't a fave but it was well received and Black Book was critically acclaimed. Unfortunately he also squeezed Hollow Man in there too. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Martin Baxter truthseeker013@ wrote: I *tried* to watch it for the first time back in '07. The laughter put me in too much pain to finish. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: ravenadal@ Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 12:06:16 + Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Rotten Tomatoes Picks Worst Movies of the Last Decade I HATED Showgirls the first time I saw it because, at the time, I adored Paul Verhoeven's films: Fresh and Blood, RoboCop, Total Recall, and Basic Instinct. The phenomenal success of Basic Instinct is the worse thing that could have happened to Verhoeven. He hasn't made a successful movie since. Showgirls is SO big, bloated, overblown, underwritten and BAD, it is almost good. ~rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Martin Baxter truthseeker013@ wrote: rave... you were able to *watch* Showgirls? You're my hero... If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: ravenadal@ Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 03:05:53 + Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Rotten Tomatoes Picks Worst Movies of the Last Decade Did I miss something? I don't see Catwoman on this list. Catwoman clocked a mighty 10% fresh rating and this list starts with Whiteout (number 100) with a 7% fresh rating. It is all down hill from there. While this list is strictly based on the fresh rating these films accrued (or failed to), there should be a distinction between something like Basic Instinct 2 which is high gloss trash(like Showgirls) but watchable and Glitter which is utterly unwatchable. ~(no)rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ wrote: Not at all surprised to see Catwoman on tis list, despite some of you who inexplicably thought it was some kind of sly tongue-in-cheek masterpiece.(George, didn't you send a favorable review of it from England? ) Also not surprised to see Battlefield Earth on there. I tried to watch that one rainy Sunday morning when I didn't want to go anywhere--and turned the channel after ten minutes. Never saw this Ballistic: Ecks vs. Sever flick. The trailers were so bad I avoided it. Same
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B, in the case of one J__l Sr, it's *gone* for me. He is now known only as Bat-Bane. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: daikaij...@yahoo.com Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 17:26:55 + Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Rotten Tomatoes Picks Worst Movies of the Last Decade So did the rest of us. The WTF part at least. Verhoeven's career path reminds me of Joel Schumacher in some ways. They both had very successful careers and then made an ill fated movie(or two) that seemed to derail them. Both recovered but some of their mojo was gone. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@... wrote: When that came out, Heinlein was reported to have sat up in his grave and muttered, What the f*ck? If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: ravena...@... Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 00:33:26 + Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Rotten Tomatoes Picks Worst Movies of the Last Decade I know Black Book was critically acclaimed (I still haven't seen it) but Starship Troopers is a hot mess. I still assert Verhoeven hasn't done anything post-Showgirls to rival his work pre-Showgirls. ~(no)rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, B Smith daikaiju66@ wrote: Rave, Verhoeven did Starship Troopers and Black Book post-Showgirls. Starshp Troopers isn't a fave but it was well received and Black Book was critically acclaimed. Unfortunately he also squeezed Hollow Man in there too. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Martin Baxter truthseeker013@ wrote: I *tried* to watch it for the first time back in '07. The laughter put me in too much pain to finish. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: ravenadal@ Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 12:06:16 + Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Rotten Tomatoes Picks Worst Movies of the Last Decade I HATED Showgirls the first time I saw it because, at the time, I adored Paul Verhoeven's films: Fresh and Blood, RoboCop, Total Recall, and Basic Instinct. The phenomenal success of Basic Instinct is the worse thing that could have happened to Verhoeven. He hasn't made a successful movie since. Showgirls is SO big, bloated, overblown, underwritten and BAD, it is almost good. ~rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Martin Baxter truthseeker013@ wrote: rave... you were able to *watch* Showgirls? You're my hero... If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: ravenadal@ Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 03:05:53 + Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Rotten Tomatoes Picks Worst Movies of the Last Decade Did I miss something? I don't see Catwoman on this list. Catwoman clocked a mighty 10% fresh rating and this list starts with Whiteout (number 100) with a 7% fresh rating. It is all down hill from there. While this list is strictly based on the fresh rating these films accrued (or failed to), there should be a distinction between something like Basic Instinct 2 which is high gloss trash(like Showgirls) but watchable and Glitter which is utterly unwatchable
[scifinoir2] Re: Rotten Tomatoes Picks Worst Movies of the Last Decade
I HATED Showgirls the first time I saw it because, at the time, I adored Paul Verhoeven's films: Fresh and Blood, RoboCop, Total Recall, and Basic Instinct. The phenomenal success of Basic Instinct is the worse thing that could have happened to Verhoeven. He hasn't made a successful movie since. Showgirls is SO big, bloated, overblown, underwritten and BAD, it is almost good. ~rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@... wrote: rave... you were able to *watch* Showgirls? You're my hero... If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: ravena...@... Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 03:05:53 + Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Rotten Tomatoes Picks Worst Movies of the Last Decade Did I miss something? I don't see Catwoman on this list. Catwoman clocked a mighty 10% fresh rating and this list starts with Whiteout (number 100) with a 7% fresh rating. It is all down hill from there. While this list is strictly based on the fresh rating these films accrued (or failed to), there should be a distinction between something like Basic Instinct 2 which is high gloss trash(like Showgirls) but watchable and Glitter which is utterly unwatchable. ~(no)rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ wrote: Not at all surprised to see Catwoman on tis list, despite some of you who inexplicably thought it was some kind of sly tongue-in-cheek masterpiece.(George, didn't you send a favorable review of it from England? ) Also not surprised to see Battlefield Earth on there. I tried to watch that one rainy Sunday morning when I didn't want to go anywhere--and turned the channel after ten minutes. Never saw this Ballistic: Ecks vs. Sever flick. The trailers were so bad I avoided it. Same for Eddie Murphy's Adventures of Pluto Nash, Norbit, and anything with Big Mamma in the title. Thoughts? Anything on here undeservedly, to your mind? Anything not on here that should be? * http://www.rottentomatoes.com/guides/worst_of_the_worst/ Intro | How It Works Over the last decade, we've collected reviews for thousands of movies. Most films, even profoundly mediocre ones, can expect to receive at least cursory support from the pundits. However, once in a while, a film will take such a critical drubbing that further attention is warranted. That's where our Worst of the Worst list comes in. We've compiled a veritable cornucopia of dull, foolhardy, and outright terrible films, from legendary duds ( Battlefield Earth ) to chuckle-deficient comedies ( Epic Movie ), from hapless sequels ( Basic Instinct 2 ) to scare-free would-be fright fests ( Alone in the Dark ). We've pored over the reviews to bring you the lowest Tomatometers of the decade -- including several ( All About Steve , Whiteout ) that were released within the last several weeks. In other words, we suffered for our work -- now it's your turn. ⢠Each critic from our discrete list gets one vote, all weighted equally. ⢠Reviews without ratings are not counted toward the results. ⢠Because reviews are continually added, manually and otherwise, we have a cutoff date at which new reviews are not counted. The current cut off date is 9/21/2009. ⢠The movies contained in this list are from 2000 to 2009. ⢠We rank the movies by Tomatometer. in the event of a tie score, the film with more reviews is ranked more highly. _ Microsoft brings you a new way to search the web. Try Bing now http://www.bing.com?form=MFEHPGpubl=WLHMTAGcrea=TEXT_MFEHPG_Core_tagline_try bing_1x1
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Okay, don't go Republican on me! :) I said *Some* of the worst trash ever put on celluloid, and I stand by that. Never saw Leonard Part 6 I heard so much bad about it. As for the worst movie I've ever seen, that's really hard. I think the worst, like the best, would be difficult to pin down to one film. There's such a wide range of bad, and some things make me angrier or more disappointed at different times in my life. I'd have a list, but not sure I could keep one movie on top of that list. - Original Message - From: Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2009 8:15:37 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Rotten Tomatoes Picks Worst Movies of the Last Decade I'm with George on this one. The worst trash ever put on celluloid? Really? Have you never seen Leonard, Part 6? (Leonard 1-5 were pretty good, though). ~rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@... wrote: Well, they discussed that, and I think one man's unwatchable is another man's high camp. Like I said, I think George reviewed Catwoman when he was in Britain, and thought it was camp fun. I found it to be some of the worst trash ever put on celluloid. Let me check the list again, 'cause I could swear Catwoman was on it. - Original Message - From: Kelwyn ravena...@... To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 11:05:53 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Rotten Tomatoes Picks Worst Movies of the Last Decade Did I miss something? I don't see Catwoman on this list. Catwoman clocked a mighty 10% fresh rating and this list starts with Whiteout (number 100) with a 7% fresh rating. It is all down hill from there. While this list is strictly based on the fresh rating these films accrued (or failed to), there should be a distinction between something like Basic Instinct 2 which is high gloss trash(like Showgirls) but watchable and Glitter which is utterly unwatchable. ~(no)rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ wrote: Not at all surprised to see Catwoman on tis list, despite some of you who inexplicably thought it was some kind of sly tongue-in-cheek masterpiece.(George, didn't you send a favorable review of it from England? ) Also not surprised to see Battlefield Earth on there. I tried to watch that one rainy Sunday morning when I didn't want to go anywhere--and turned the channel after ten minutes. Never saw this Ballistic: Ecks vs. Sever flick. The trailers were so bad I avoided it. Same for Eddie Murphy's Adventures of Pluto Nash, Norbit, and anything with Big Mamma in the title. Thoughts? Anything on here undeservedly, to your mind? Anything not on here that should be? * http://www.rottentomatoes.com/guides/worst_of_the_worst/ Intro | How It Works Over the last decade, we've collected reviews for thousands of movies. Most films, even profoundly mediocre ones, can expect to receive at least cursory support from the pundits. However, once in a while, a film will take such a critical drubbing that further attention is warranted. That's where our Worst of the Worst list comes in. We've compiled a veritable cornucopia of dull, foolhardy, and outright terrible films, from legendary duds ( Battlefield Earth ) to chuckle-deficient comedies ( Epic Movie ), from hapless sequels ( Basic Instinct 2 ) to scare-free would-be fright fests ( Alone in the Dark ). We've pored over the reviews to bring you the lowest Tomatometers of the decade -- including several ( All About Steve , Whiteout ) that were released within the last several weeks. In other words, we suffered for our work -- now it's your turn. • Each critic from our discrete list gets one vote, all weighted equally. • Reviews without ratings are not counted toward the results. • Because reviews are continually added, manually and otherwise, we have a cutoff date at which new reviews are not counted. The current cut off date is 9/21/2009. • The movies contained in this list are from 2000 to 2009. • We rank the movies by Tomatometer. in the event of a tie score, the film with more reviews is ranked more highly.
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There's another one they missed. I remember catching one critic's review of that when I was standing somewhere in line. After seeing this, now I know why they didn't release Parts 1-5. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 14:21:38 + Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Rotten Tomatoes Picks Worst Movies of the Last Decade Okay, don't go Republican on me! :) I said *Some* of the worst trash ever put on celluloid, and I stand by that. Never saw Leonard Part 6 I heard so much bad about it. As for the worst movie I've ever seen, that's really hard. I think the worst, like the best, would be difficult to pin down to one film. There's such a wide range of bad, and some things make me angrier or more disappointed at different times in my life. I'd have a list, but not sure I could keep one movie on top of that list. - Original Message - From: Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2009 8:15:37 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Rotten Tomatoes Picks Worst Movies of the Last Decade I'm with George on this one. The worst trash ever put on celluloid? Really? Have you never seen Leonard, Part 6? (Leonard 1-5 were pretty good, though). ~rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@... wrote: Well, they discussed that, and I think one man's unwatchable is another man's high camp. Like I said, I think George reviewed Catwoman when he was in Britain, and thought it was camp fun. I found it to be some of the worst trash ever put on celluloid. Let me check the list again, 'cause I could swear Catwoman was on it. - Original Message - From: Kelwyn ravena...@... To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 11:05:53 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Rotten Tomatoes Picks Worst Movies of the Last Decade Did I miss something? I don't see Catwoman on this list. Catwoman clocked a mighty 10% fresh rating and this list starts with Whiteout (number 100) with a 7% fresh rating. It is all down hill from there. While this list is strictly based on the fresh rating these films accrued (or failed to), there should be a distinction between something like Basic Instinct 2 which is high gloss trash(like Showgirls) but watchable and Glitter which is utterly unwatchable. ~(no)rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ wrote: Not at all surprised to see Catwoman on tis list, despite some of you who inexplicably thought it was some kind of sly tongue-in-cheek masterpiece.(George, didn't you send a favorable review of it from England? ) Also not surprised to see Battlefield Earth on there. I tried to watch that one rainy Sunday morning when I didn't want to go anywhere--and turned the channel after ten minutes. Never saw this Ballistic: Ecks vs. Sever flick. The trailers were so bad I avoided it. Same for Eddie Murphy's Adventures of Pluto Nash, Norbit, and anything with Big Mamma in the title. Thoughts? Anything on here undeservedly, to your mind? Anything not on here that should be? * http://www.rottentomatoes.com/guides/worst_of_the_worst/ Intro | How It Works Over the last decade, we've collected reviews for thousands of movies. Most films, even profoundly mediocre ones, can expect to receive at least cursory support from the pundits. However, once in a while, a film will take such a critical drubbing that further attention is warranted. That's where our Worst of the Worst list comes in. We've compiled a veritable cornucopia of dull, foolhardy, and outright terrible films, from legendary duds ( Battlefield Earth ) to chuckle-deficient comedies ( Epic Movie ), from hapless sequels ( Basic Instinct 2 ) to scare-free would-be fright fests ( Alone in the Dark ). We've pored over the reviews to bring you the lowest Tomatometers of the decade -- including several ( All About Steve , Whiteout ) that were released within the last several weeks. In other words, we suffered for our work -- now it's your turn. • Each critic from our discrete list gets one vote, all weighted equally. • Reviews without ratings are not counted toward the results. • Because reviews are continually added, manually and otherwise, we have a cutoff date at which new reviews are not counted. The current cut off date is 9/21/2009. • The movies contained in this list are from 2000 to 2009
[scifinoir2] Re: Rotten Tomatoes Picks Worst Movies of the Last Decade
I'm with George on this one. The worst trash ever put on celluloid? Really? Have you never seen Leonard, Part 6? (Leonard 1-5 were pretty good, though). ~rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@... wrote: Well, they discussed that, and I think one man's unwatchable is another man's high camp. Like I said, I think George reviewed Catwoman when he was in Britain, and thought it was camp fun. I found it to be some of the worst trash ever put on celluloid. Let me check the list again, 'cause I could swear Catwoman was on it. - Original Message - From: Kelwyn ravena...@... To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 11:05:53 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Rotten Tomatoes Picks Worst Movies of the Last Decade Did I miss something? I don't see Catwoman on this list. Catwoman clocked a mighty 10% fresh rating and this list starts with Whiteout (number 100) with a 7% fresh rating. It is all down hill from there. While this list is strictly based on the fresh rating these films accrued (or failed to), there should be a distinction between something like Basic Instinct 2 which is high gloss trash(like Showgirls) but watchable and Glitter which is utterly unwatchable. ~(no)rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ wrote: Not at all surprised to see Catwoman on tis list, despite some of you who inexplicably thought it was some kind of sly tongue-in-cheek masterpiece.(George, didn't you send a favorable review of it from England? )à Also not surprised to see Battlefield Earth on there. I tried to watch that one rainy Sunday morning when I didn't want to go anywhere--and turned the channel after ten minutes.à Never saw this Ballistic: Ecks vs. Severà flick. The trailers were so bad I avoided it. Same for Eddie Murphy's Adventures of Pluto Nash, Norbit, and anything with Big Mamma in the title. Thoughts? Anything on here undeservedly, to your mind? Anything not on here that should be? * http://www.rottentomatoes.com/guides/worst_of_the_worst/ Intro | How It Works Over the last decade, we've collected reviews for thousands of movies. Most films, even profoundly mediocre ones, can expect to receive at least cursory support from the pundits. However, once in a while, a film will take such a critical drubbing that further attention is warranted. That's where our Worst of the Worst list comes in. We've compiled a veritable cornucopia of dull, foolhardy, and outright terrible films, from legendary duds ( Battlefield Earth ) to chuckle-deficient comedies ( Epic Movie ), from hapless sequels ( Basic Instinct 2 ) to scare-free would-be fright fests ( Alone in the Dark ). We've pored over the reviews to bring you the lowest Tomatometers of the decade -- including several ( All About Steve , Whiteout ) that were released within the last several weeks. In other words, we suffered for our work -- now it's your turn. ââ¬Â¢ Each critic from our discrete list gets one vote, all weighted equally. ââ¬Â¢ Reviews without ratings are not counted toward the results. ââ¬Â¢ Because reviews are continually added, manually and otherwise, we have a cutoff date at which new reviews are not counted. The current cut off date is 9/21/2009. ââ¬Â¢ The movies contained in this list are from 2000 to 2009. ââ¬Â¢ We rank the movies by Tomatometer. in the event of a tie score, the film with more reviews is ranked more highly.
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Keith, I thought so as well. Maybe we both subconsciously put it there, as it was so deserving. And another noticeable absence from the list -- Mike Myers' absymal The Love Guru. Maybe the people putting the list together went into collective psychic shock, and forgot to tag it on. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 04:28:24 + Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Rotten Tomatoes Picks Worst Movies of the Last Decade Well, they discussed that, and I think one man's unwatchable is another man's high camp. Like I said, I think George reviewed Catwoman when he was in Britain, and thought it was camp fun. I found it to be some of the worst trash ever put on celluloid. Let me check the list again, 'cause I could swear Catwoman was on it. - Original Message - From: Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 11:05:53 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Rotten Tomatoes Picks Worst Movies of the Last Decade Did I miss something? I don't see Catwoman on this list. Catwoman clocked a mighty 10% fresh rating and this list starts with Whiteout (number 100) with a 7% fresh rating. It is all down hill from there. While this list is strictly based on the fresh rating these films accrued (or failed to), there should be a distinction between something like Basic Instinct 2 which is high gloss trash(like Showgirls) but watchable and Glitter which is utterly unwatchable. ~(no)rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@... wrote: Not at all surprised to see Catwoman on tis list, despite some of you who inexplicably thought it was some kind of sly tongue-in-cheek masterpiece.(George, didn't you send a favorable review of it from England? ) Also not surprised to see Battlefield Earth on there. I tried to watch that one rainy Sunday morning when I didn't want to go anywhere--and turned the channel after ten minutes. Never saw this Ballistic: Ecks vs. Sever flick. The trailers were so bad I avoided it. Same for Eddie Murphy's Adventures of Pluto Nash, Norbit, and anything with Big Mamma in the title. Thoughts? Anything on here undeservedly, to your mind? Anything not on here that should be? * http://www.rottentomatoes.com/guides/worst_of_the_worst/ Intro | How It Works Over the last decade, we've collected reviews for thousands of movies. Most films, even profoundly mediocre ones, can expect to receive at least cursory support from the pundits. However, once in a while, a film will take such a critical drubbing that further attention is warranted. That's where our Worst of the Worst list comes in. We've compiled a veritable cornucopia of dull, foolhardy, and outright terrible films, from legendary duds ( Battlefield Earth ) to chuckle-deficient comedies ( Epic Movie ), from hapless sequels ( Basic Instinct 2 ) to scare-free would-be fright fests ( Alone in the Dark ). We've pored over the reviews to bring you the lowest Tomatometers of the decade -- including several ( All About Steve , Whiteout ) that were released within the last several weeks. In other words, we suffered for our work -- now it's your turn. • Each critic from our discrete list gets one vote, all weighted equally. • Reviews without ratings are not counted toward the results. • Because reviews are continually added, manually and otherwise, we have a cutoff date at which new reviews are not counted. The current cut off date is 9/21/2009. • The movies contained in this list are from 2000 to 2009. • We rank the movies by Tomatometer. in the event of a tie score, the film with more reviews is ranked more highly. _ Insert movie times and more without leaving Hotmail®. http://windowslive.com/Tutorial/Hotmail/QuickAdd?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Tutorial_QuickAdd_062009
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rave... you were able to *watch* Showgirls? You're my hero... If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: ravena...@yahoo.com Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 03:05:53 + Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Rotten Tomatoes Picks Worst Movies of the Last Decade Did I miss something? I don't see Catwoman on this list. Catwoman clocked a mighty 10% fresh rating and this list starts with Whiteout (number 100) with a 7% fresh rating. It is all down hill from there. While this list is strictly based on the fresh rating these films accrued (or failed to), there should be a distinction between something like Basic Instinct 2 which is high gloss trash(like Showgirls) but watchable and Glitter which is utterly unwatchable. ~(no)rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@... wrote: Not at all surprised to see Catwoman on tis list, despite some of you who inexplicably thought it was some kind of sly tongue-in-cheek masterpiece.(George, didn't you send a favorable review of it from England? ) Also not surprised to see Battlefield Earth on there. I tried to watch that one rainy Sunday morning when I didn't want to go anywhere--and turned the channel after ten minutes. Never saw this Ballistic: Ecks vs. Sever flick. The trailers were so bad I avoided it. Same for Eddie Murphy's Adventures of Pluto Nash, Norbit, and anything with Big Mamma in the title. Thoughts? Anything on here undeservedly, to your mind? Anything not on here that should be? * http://www.rottentomatoes.com/guides/worst_of_the_worst/ Intro | How It Works Over the last decade, we've collected reviews for thousands of movies. Most films, even profoundly mediocre ones, can expect to receive at least cursory support from the pundits. However, once in a while, a film will take such a critical drubbing that further attention is warranted. That's where our Worst of the Worst list comes in. We've compiled a veritable cornucopia of dull, foolhardy, and outright terrible films, from legendary duds ( Battlefield Earth ) to chuckle-deficient comedies ( Epic Movie ), from hapless sequels ( Basic Instinct 2 ) to scare-free would-be fright fests ( Alone in the Dark ). We've pored over the reviews to bring you the lowest Tomatometers of the decade -- including several ( All About Steve , Whiteout ) that were released within the last several weeks. In other words, we suffered for our work -- now it's your turn. • Each critic from our discrete list gets one vote, all weighted equally. • Reviews without ratings are not counted toward the results. • Because reviews are continually added, manually and otherwise, we have a cutoff date at which new reviews are not counted. The current cut off date is 9/21/2009. • The movies contained in this list are from 2000 to 2009. • We rank the movies by Tomatometer. in the event of a tie score, the film with more reviews is ranked more highly. _ Microsoft brings you a new way to search the web. Try Bing™ now http://www.bing.com?form=MFEHPGpubl=WLHMTAGcrea=TEXT_MFEHPG_Core_tagline_try bing_1x1
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Keith, B just said it. It's as though the director tried to do an Americanized HK actioner, and just didn't know how. Antonio Banderas snoozed his way through his role. I don't think that Lucy EWWW Liu could act her way out of a paper bag if you left the business end open, ripped out the bottom and put neon Exit signs to mark both. Gregg Henry, as the villian of the piece, made Snidely Whiplash look like Hans Gruber in Die Hard. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: daikaij...@yahoo.com Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 01:16:04 + Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Rotten Tomatoes Picks Worst Movies of the Last Decade Bad Boys 2 is just pure excess and can at least be appreciated for the sheer level of bayhem *heh* on the screen. Ballistic is just horrible. Watching it will make you yearn for Bay's migraine inducing, quick cutting action porn. -- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@... wrote: Wow, really was that bad, huh? Can you give me a quick indication of why? I mean, i find it hard to imagine how something could be so much worse than Bad Boys 2... - Original Message - From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@... To: SciFiNoir2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 4:33:46 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Rotten Tomatoes Picks Worst Movies of the Last Decade Oh, and Keith -- you spared yourself much pain by missing Ballistic: Ecks vs Sever. When I finally saw it (letting it filter all the way down to cable), the only things I wanted to sever were my optic nerves. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: keithbjohn...@... Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 16:01:36 + Subject: [scifinoir2] Rotten Tomatoes Picks Worst Movies of the Last Decade Not at all surprised to see Catwoman on tis list, despite some of you who inexplicably thought it was some kind of sly tongue-in-cheek masterpiece.(George, didn't you send a favorable review of it from England? ) Also not surprised to see Battlefield Earth on there. I tried to watch that one rainy Sunday morning when I didn't want to go anywhere--and turned the channel after ten minutes. Never saw this Ballistic: Ecks vs. Sever flick. The trailers were so bad I avoided it. Same for Eddie Murphy's Adventures of Pluto Nash, Norbit, and anything with Big Mamma in the title. Thoughts? Anything on here undeservedly, to your mind? Anything not on here that should be? * http://www.rottentomatoes.com/guides/worst_of_the_worst/ Intro | How It Works Over the last decade, we've collected reviews for thousands of movies. Most films, even profoundly mediocre ones, can expect to receive at least cursory support from the pundits. However, once in a while, a film will take such a critical drubbing that further attention is warranted. That's where our Worst of the Worst list comes in. We've compiled a veritable cornucopia of dull, foolhardy, and outright terrible films, from legendary duds ( Battlefield Earth ) to chuckle-deficient comedies ( Epic Movie ), from hapless sequels ( Basic Instinct 2 ) to scare-free would-be fright fests ( Alone in the Dark ). We've pored over the reviews to bring you the lowest Tomatometers of the decade -- including several ( All About Steve , Whiteout ) that were released within the last several weeks. In other words, we suffered for our work -- now it's your turn. • Each critic from our discrete list gets one vote, all weighted equally. • Reviews without ratings are not counted toward the results. • Because reviews are continually added, manually and otherwise, we have a cutoff date at which new reviews are not counted. The current cut off date is 9/21/2009. • The movies contained in this list are from 2000 to 2009. • We rank the movies by Tomatometer. in the event of a tie score, the film with more reviews is ranked more highly. Microsoft brings you a new way to search the web. Try Bingâ„¢ now _ Bing™ brings you maps, menus, and reviews organized in one place. Try it now. http://www.bing.com/search?q=restaurantsform=MLOGENpubl=WLHMTAGcrea=TEXT_MLOGEN_Core_tagline_local_1x1
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I *tried* to watch it for the first time back in '07. The laughter put me in too much pain to finish. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: ravena...@yahoo.com Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 12:06:16 + Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Rotten Tomatoes Picks Worst Movies of the Last Decade I HATED Showgirls the first time I saw it because, at the time, I adored Paul Verhoeven's films: Fresh and Blood, RoboCop, Total Recall, and Basic Instinct. The phenomenal success of Basic Instinct is the worse thing that could have happened to Verhoeven. He hasn't made a successful movie since. Showgirls is SO big, bloated, overblown, underwritten and BAD, it is almost good. ~rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@... wrote: rave... you were able to *watch* Showgirls? You're my hero... If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: ravena...@... Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 03:05:53 + Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Rotten Tomatoes Picks Worst Movies of the Last Decade Did I miss something? I don't see Catwoman on this list. Catwoman clocked a mighty 10% fresh rating and this list starts with Whiteout (number 100) with a 7% fresh rating. It is all down hill from there. While this list is strictly based on the fresh rating these films accrued (or failed to), there should be a distinction between something like Basic Instinct 2 which is high gloss trash(like Showgirls) but watchable and Glitter which is utterly unwatchable. ~(no)rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ wrote: Not at all surprised to see Catwoman on tis list, despite some of you who inexplicably thought it was some kind of sly tongue-in-cheek masterpiece.(George, didn't you send a favorable review of it from England? ) Also not surprised to see Battlefield Earth on there. I tried to watch that one rainy Sunday morning when I didn't want to go anywhere--and turned the channel after ten minutes. Never saw this Ballistic: Ecks vs. Sever flick. The trailers were so bad I avoided it. Same for Eddie Murphy's Adventures of Pluto Nash, Norbit, and anything with Big Mamma in the title. Thoughts? Anything on here undeservedly, to your mind? Anything not on here that should be? * http://www.rottentomatoes.com/guides/worst_of_the_worst/ Intro | How It Works Over the last decade, we've collected reviews for thousands of movies. Most films, even profoundly mediocre ones, can expect to receive at least cursory support from the pundits. However, once in a while, a film will take such a critical drubbing that further attention is warranted. That's where our Worst of the Worst list comes in. We've compiled a veritable cornucopia of dull, foolhardy, and outright terrible films, from legendary duds ( Battlefield Earth ) to chuckle-deficient comedies ( Epic Movie ), from hapless sequels ( Basic Instinct 2 ) to scare-free would-be fright fests ( Alone in the Dark ). We've pored over the reviews to bring you the lowest Tomatometers of the decade -- including several ( All About Steve , Whiteout ) that were released within the last several weeks. In other words, we suffered for our work -- now it's your turn. • Each critic from our discrete list gets one vote, all weighted equally. • Reviews without ratings are not counted toward the results. • Because reviews are continually added, manually and otherwise, we have a cutoff date at which new reviews are not counted. The current cut off date is 9/21/2009. • The movies contained in this list are from 2000 to 2009. • We rank the movies by Tomatometer. in the event of a tie score, the film with more reviews is ranked more highly. __ Microsoft brings you a new way to search the web. Try Bing™ now http://www.bing.com?form=MFEHPGpubl=WLHMTAGcrea=TEXT_MFEHPG_Core_tagline_try bing_1x1
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Rave, Verhoeven did Starship Troopers and Black Book post-Showgirls. Starshp Troopers isn't a fave but it was well received and Black Book was critically acclaimed. Unfortunately he also squeezed Hollow Man in there too. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@... wrote: I *tried* to watch it for the first time back in '07. The laughter put me in too much pain to finish. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: ravena...@... Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 12:06:16 + Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Rotten Tomatoes Picks Worst Movies of the Last Decade I HATED Showgirls the first time I saw it because, at the time, I adored Paul Verhoeven's films: Fresh and Blood, RoboCop, Total Recall, and Basic Instinct. The phenomenal success of Basic Instinct is the worse thing that could have happened to Verhoeven. He hasn't made a successful movie since. Showgirls is SO big, bloated, overblown, underwritten and BAD, it is almost good. ~rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Martin Baxter truthseeker013@ wrote: rave... you were able to *watch* Showgirls? You're my hero... If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: ravenadal@ Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 03:05:53 + Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Rotten Tomatoes Picks Worst Movies of the Last Decade Did I miss something? I don't see Catwoman on this list. Catwoman clocked a mighty 10% fresh rating and this list starts with Whiteout (number 100) with a 7% fresh rating. It is all down hill from there. While this list is strictly based on the fresh rating these films accrued (or failed to), there should be a distinction between something like Basic Instinct 2 which is high gloss trash(like Showgirls) but watchable and Glitter which is utterly unwatchable. ~(no)rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ wrote: Not at all surprised to see Catwoman on tis list, despite some of you who inexplicably thought it was some kind of sly tongue-in-cheek masterpiece.(George, didn't you send a favorable review of it from England? ) Also not surprised to see Battlefield Earth on there. I tried to watch that one rainy Sunday morning when I didn't want to go anywhere--and turned the channel after ten minutes. Never saw this Ballistic: Ecks vs. Sever flick. The trailers were so bad I avoided it. Same for Eddie Murphy's Adventures of Pluto Nash, Norbit, and anything with Big Mamma in the title. Thoughts? Anything on here undeservedly, to your mind? Anything not on here that should be? * http://www.rottentomatoes.com/guides/worst_of_the_worst/ Intro | How It Works Over the last decade, we've collected reviews for thousands of movies. Most films, even profoundly mediocre ones, can expect to receive at least cursory support from the pundits. However, once in a while, a film will take such a critical drubbing that further attention is warranted. That's where our Worst of the Worst list comes in. We've compiled a veritable cornucopia of dull, foolhardy, and outright terrible films, from legendary duds ( Battlefield Earth ) to chuckle-deficient comedies ( Epic Movie ), from hapless sequels ( Basic Instinct 2 ) to scare-free would-be fright fests ( Alone in the Dark ). We've pored over the reviews to bring you the lowest Tomatometers of the decade -- including several ( All About Steve , Whiteout ) that were released within the last several weeks. In other words, we suffered for our work -- now it's your turn. ⢠Each critic from our discrete list gets one vote, all weighted equally. ⢠Reviews without ratings are not counted toward the results. ⢠Because reviews are continually added, manually and otherwise, we have a cutoff date at which new reviews are not counted. The current cut off date is 9/21/2009. ⢠The movies contained in this list are from 2000 to 2009. ⢠We rank the movies by Tomatometer. in the event of a tie
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I know Black Book was critically acclaimed (I still haven't seen it) but Starship Troopers is a hot mess. I still assert Verhoeven hasn't done anything post-Showgirls to rival his work pre-Showgirls. ~(no)rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, B Smith daikaij...@... wrote: Rave, Verhoeven did Starship Troopers and Black Book post-Showgirls. Starshp Troopers isn't a fave but it was well received and Black Book was critically acclaimed. Unfortunately he also squeezed Hollow Man in there too. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Martin Baxter truthseeker013@ wrote: I *tried* to watch it for the first time back in '07. The laughter put me in too much pain to finish. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: ravenadal@ Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 12:06:16 + Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Rotten Tomatoes Picks Worst Movies of the Last Decade I HATED Showgirls the first time I saw it because, at the time, I adored Paul Verhoeven's films: Fresh and Blood, RoboCop, Total Recall, and Basic Instinct. The phenomenal success of Basic Instinct is the worse thing that could have happened to Verhoeven. He hasn't made a successful movie since. Showgirls is SO big, bloated, overblown, underwritten and BAD, it is almost good. ~rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Martin Baxter truthseeker013@ wrote: rave... you were able to *watch* Showgirls? You're my hero... If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: ravenadal@ Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 03:05:53 + Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Rotten Tomatoes Picks Worst Movies of the Last Decade Did I miss something? I don't see Catwoman on this list. Catwoman clocked a mighty 10% fresh rating and this list starts with Whiteout (number 100) with a 7% fresh rating. It is all down hill from there. While this list is strictly based on the fresh rating these films accrued (or failed to), there should be a distinction between something like Basic Instinct 2 which is high gloss trash(like Showgirls) but watchable and Glitter which is utterly unwatchable. ~(no)rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ wrote: Not at all surprised to see Catwoman on tis list, despite some of you who inexplicably thought it was some kind of sly tongue-in-cheek masterpiece.(George, didn't you send a favorable review of it from England? ) Also not surprised to see Battlefield Earth on there. I tried to watch that one rainy Sunday morning when I didn't want to go anywhere--and turned the channel after ten minutes. Never saw this Ballistic: Ecks vs. Sever flick. The trailers were so bad I avoided it. Same for Eddie Murphy's Adventures of Pluto Nash, Norbit, and anything with Big Mamma in the title. Thoughts? Anything on here undeservedly, to your mind? Anything not on here that should be? * http://www.rottentomatoes.com/guides/worst_of_the_worst/ Intro | How It Works Over the last decade, we've collected reviews for thousands of movies. Most films, even profoundly mediocre ones, can expect to receive at least cursory support from the pundits. However, once in a while, a film will take such a critical drubbing that further attention is warranted. That's where our Worst of the Worst list comes in. We've compiled a veritable cornucopia of dull, foolhardy, and outright terrible films, from legendary duds ( Battlefield Earth ) to chuckle-deficient comedies ( Epic Movie ), from hapless sequels ( Basic Instinct 2 ) to scare-free would-be fright fests ( Alone in the Dark ). We've pored over the reviews to bring you the lowest Tomatometers of the decade -- including several ( All About Steve , Whiteout ) that were released within the last several weeks. In other words, we suffered for our work -- now it's
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When does it premier? -Original Message- From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Kelwyn Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2009 5:33 PM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Rotten Tomatoes Picks Worst Movies of the Last Decade I know Black Book was critically acclaimed (I still haven't seen it) but Starship Troopers is a hot mess. I still assert Verhoeven hasn't done anything post-Showgirls to rival his work pre-Showgirls. ~(no)rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, B Smith daikaij...@... wrote: Rave, Verhoeven did Starship Troopers and Black Book post-Showgirls. Starshp Troopers isn't a fave but it was well received and Black Book was critically acclaimed. Unfortunately he also squeezed Hollow Man in there too. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Martin Baxter truthseeker013@ wrote: I *tried* to watch it for the first time back in '07. The laughter put me in too much pain to finish. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: ravenadal@ Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 12:06:16 + Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Rotten Tomatoes Picks Worst Movies of the Last Decade I HATED Showgirls the first time I saw it because, at the time, I adored Paul Verhoeven's films: Fresh and Blood, RoboCop, Total Recall, and Basic Instinct. The phenomenal success of Basic Instinct is the worse thing that could have happened to Verhoeven. He hasn't made a successful movie since. Showgirls is SO big, bloated, overblown, underwritten and BAD, it is almost good. ~rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Martin Baxter truthseeker013@ wrote: rave... you were able to *watch* Showgirls? You're my hero... If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: ravenadal@ Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 03:05:53 + Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Rotten Tomatoes Picks Worst Movies of the Last Decade Did I miss something? I don't see Catwoman on this list. Catwoman clocked a mighty 10% fresh rating and this list starts with Whiteout (number 100) with a 7% fresh rating. It is all down hill from there. While this list is strictly based on the fresh rating these films accrued (or failed to), there should be a distinction between something like Basic Instinct 2 which is high gloss trash(like Showgirls) but watchable and Glitter which is utterly unwatchable. ~(no)rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ wrote: Not at all surprised to see Catwoman on tis list, despite some of you who inexplicably thought it was some kind of sly tongue-in-cheek masterpiece.(George, didn't you send a favorable review of it from England? ) Also not surprised to see Battlefield Earth on there. I tried to watch that one rainy Sunday morning when I didn't want to go anywhere--and turned the channel after ten minutes. Never saw this Ballistic: Ecks vs. Sever flick. The trailers were so bad I avoided it. Same for Eddie Murphy's Adventures of Pluto Nash, Norbit, and anything with Big Mamma in the title. Thoughts? Anything on here undeservedly, to your mind? Anything not on here that should be? * http://www.rottentomatoes.com/guides/worst_of_the_worst/ Intro | How It Works Over the last decade, we've collected reviews for thousands of movies. Most films, even profoundly mediocre ones, can expect to receive at least cursory support from the pundits. However, once in a while, a film will take such a critical drubbing that further attention is warranted. That's where our Worst of the Worst list comes in. We've compiled a veritable cornucopia of dull, foolhardy, and outright terrible films, from legendary duds ( Battlefield Earth ) to chuckle-deficient comedies ( Epic Movie ), from hapless sequels ( Basic Instinct 2 ) to scare-free would
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That's a bit of a different assertion. ;) He has made successful films but they aren't my cup of tea either. His work after Showgirls isn't anywhere as good as stuff you mentioned or his more Dutch films like Spetters and Soldier of Orange. I totally agree with you that point. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Kelwyn ravena...@... wrote: I know Black Book was critically acclaimed (I still haven't seen it) but Starship Troopers is a hot mess. I still assert Verhoeven hasn't done anything post-Showgirls to rival his work pre-Showgirls. ~(no)rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, B Smith daikaiju66@ wrote: Rave, Verhoeven did Starship Troopers and Black Book post-Showgirls. Starshp Troopers isn't a fave but it was well received and Black Book was critically acclaimed. Unfortunately he also squeezed Hollow Man in there too. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Martin Baxter truthseeker013@ wrote: I *tried* to watch it for the first time back in '07. The laughter put me in too much pain to finish. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: ravenadal@ Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 12:06:16 + Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Rotten Tomatoes Picks Worst Movies of the Last Decade I HATED Showgirls the first time I saw it because, at the time, I adored Paul Verhoeven's films: Fresh and Blood, RoboCop, Total Recall, and Basic Instinct. The phenomenal success of Basic Instinct is the worse thing that could have happened to Verhoeven. He hasn't made a successful movie since. Showgirls is SO big, bloated, overblown, underwritten and BAD, it is almost good. ~rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Martin Baxter truthseeker013@ wrote: rave... you were able to *watch* Showgirls? You're my hero... If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: ravenadal@ Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 03:05:53 + Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Rotten Tomatoes Picks Worst Movies of the Last Decade Did I miss something? I don't see Catwoman on this list. Catwoman clocked a mighty 10% fresh rating and this list starts with Whiteout (number 100) with a 7% fresh rating. It is all down hill from there. While this list is strictly based on the fresh rating these films accrued (or failed to), there should be a distinction between something like Basic Instinct 2 which is high gloss trash(like Showgirls) but watchable and Glitter which is utterly unwatchable. ~(no)rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ wrote: Not at all surprised to see Catwoman on tis list, despite some of you who inexplicably thought it was some kind of sly tongue-in-cheek masterpiece.(George, didn't you send a favorable review of it from England? ) Also not surprised to see Battlefield Earth on there. I tried to watch that one rainy Sunday morning when I didn't want to go anywhere--and turned the channel after ten minutes. Never saw this Ballistic: Ecks vs. Sever flick. The trailers were so bad I avoided it. Same for Eddie Murphy's Adventures of Pluto Nash, Norbit, and anything with Big Mamma in the title. Thoughts? Anything on here undeservedly, to your mind? Anything not on here that should be? * http://www.rottentomatoes.com/guides/worst_of_the_worst/ Intro | How It Works Over the last decade, we've collected reviews for thousands of movies. Most films, even profoundly mediocre ones, can expect to receive at least cursory support from the pundits. However, once in a while, a film will take such a critical drubbing that further attention
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Well, I guess it depends on what your definition of successful is...Black Book (2006)cost $21 million and grossed $26 million worldwide...Starship Troopers (1997) cost $105 million and grossed $121 million. Of his three mainstream movies made after Showgirls, only Hollow Man (2000) can be considered successful with a cost of $95 million and a worldwide gross of $190 million. Which is probably why he has only made three features in fifteen years. ~rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, B Smith daikaij...@... wrote: That's a bit of a different assertion. ;) He has made successful films but they aren't my cup of tea either. His work after Showgirls isn't anywhere as good as stuff you mentioned or his more Dutch films like Spetters and Soldier of Orange. I totally agree with you that point. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Kelwyn ravenadal@ wrote: I know Black Book was critically acclaimed (I still haven't seen it) but Starship Troopers is a hot mess. I still assert Verhoeven hasn't done anything post-Showgirls to rival his work pre-Showgirls. ~(no)rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, B Smith daikaiju66@ wrote: Rave, Verhoeven did Starship Troopers and Black Book post-Showgirls. Starshp Troopers isn't a fave but it was well received and Black Book was critically acclaimed. Unfortunately he also squeezed Hollow Man in there too. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Martin Baxter truthseeker013@ wrote: I *tried* to watch it for the first time back in '07. The laughter put me in too much pain to finish. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: ravenadal@ Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 12:06:16 + Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Rotten Tomatoes Picks Worst Movies of the Last Decade I HATED Showgirls the first time I saw it because, at the time, I adored Paul Verhoeven's films: Fresh and Blood, RoboCop, Total Recall, and Basic Instinct. The phenomenal success of Basic Instinct is the worse thing that could have happened to Verhoeven. He hasn't made a successful movie since. Showgirls is SO big, bloated, overblown, underwritten and BAD, it is almost good. ~rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Martin Baxter truthseeker013@ wrote: rave... you were able to *watch* Showgirls? You're my hero... If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: ravenadal@ Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 03:05:53 + Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Rotten Tomatoes Picks Worst Movies of the Last Decade Did I miss something? I don't see Catwoman on this list. Catwoman clocked a mighty 10% fresh rating and this list starts with Whiteout (number 100) with a 7% fresh rating. It is all down hill from there. While this list is strictly based on the fresh rating these films accrued (or failed to), there should be a distinction between something like Basic Instinct 2 which is high gloss trash(like Showgirls) but watchable and Glitter which is utterly unwatchable. ~(no)rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ wrote: Not at all surprised to see Catwoman on tis list, despite some of you who inexplicably thought it was some kind of sly tongue-in-cheek masterpiece.(George, didn't you send a favorable review of it from England? ) Also not surprised to see Battlefield Earth on there. I tried to watch that one rainy Sunday morning when I didn't want to go anywhere--and turned the channel after ten minutes. Never saw this Ballistic: Ecks vs. Sever flick. The trailers were so bad I avoided it. Same for Eddie Murphy's Adventures of Pluto Nash, Norbit, and anything with Big Mamma in the title
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It's one of those movies that has the right ingredients(great cast and decent story) but everything else goes horribly wrong. I bet that someone else could make this movie with the same cast and story turn out a faily entertaining flick but the director, production designer, etc. butchered this. John Woo could have made this film in his sleep and the final product would have been better. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@... wrote: Oh, and Keith -- you spared yourself much pain by missing Ballistic: Ecks vs Sever. When I finally saw it (letting it filter all the way down to cable), the only things I wanted to sever were my optic nerves. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: keithbjohn...@... Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 16:01:36 + Subject: [scifinoir2] Rotten Tomatoes Picks Worst Movies of the Last Decade Not at all surprised to see Catwoman on tis list, despite some of you who inexplicably thought it was some kind of sly tongue-in-cheek masterpiece.(George, didn't you send a favorable review of it from England? ) Also not surprised to see Battlefield Earth on there. I tried to watch that one rainy Sunday morning when I didn't want to go anywhere--and turned the channel after ten minutes. Never saw this Ballistic: Ecks vs. Sever flick. The trailers were so bad I avoided it. Same for Eddie Murphy's Adventures of Pluto Nash, Norbit, and anything with Big Mamma in the title. Thoughts? Anything on here undeservedly, to your mind? Anything not on here that should be? * http://www.rottentomatoes.com/guides/worst_of_the_worst/ Intro | How It Works Over the last decade, we've collected reviews for thousands of movies. Most films, even profoundly mediocre ones, can expect to receive at least cursory support from the pundits. However, once in a while, a film will take such a critical drubbing that further attention is warranted. That's where our Worst of the Worst list comes in. We've compiled a veritable cornucopia of dull, foolhardy, and outright terrible films, from legendary duds (Battlefield Earth) to chuckle-deficient comedies (Epic Movie), from hapless sequels (Basic Instinct 2) to scare-free would-be fright fests (Alone in the Dark). We've pored over the reviews to bring you the lowest Tomatometers of the decade -- including several (All About Steve, Whiteout) that were released within the last several weeks. In other words, we suffered for our work -- now it's your turn. Each critic from our discrete list gets one vote, all weighted equally. Reviews without ratings are not counted toward the results. Because reviews are continually added, manually and otherwise, we have a cutoff date at which new reviews are not counted. The current cut off date is 9/21/2009. The movies contained in this list are from 2000 to 2009. We rank the movies by Tomatometer. in the event of a tie score, the film with more reviews is ranked more highly. _ Microsoft brings you a new way to search the web. Try Bing now http://www.bing.com?form=MFEHPGpubl=WLHMTAGcrea=TEXT_MFEHPG_Core_tagline_try bing_1x1
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The saddest thing is how much time I've wasted watching movies that appear on this list. I've seen and hated a ton of these turkeys. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, B Smith daikaij...@... wrote: It's one of those movies that has the right ingredients(great cast and decent story) but everything else goes horribly wrong. I bet that someone else could make this movie with the same cast and story turn out a faily entertaining flick but the director, production designer, etc. butchered this. John Woo could have made this film in his sleep and the final product would have been better. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Martin Baxter truthseeker013@ wrote: Oh, and Keith -- you spared yourself much pain by missing Ballistic: Ecks vs Sever. When I finally saw it (letting it filter all the way down to cable), the only things I wanted to sever were my optic nerves. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: KeithBJohnson@ Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 16:01:36 + Subject: [scifinoir2] Rotten Tomatoes Picks Worst Movies of the Last Decade Not at all surprised to see Catwoman on tis list, despite some of you who inexplicably thought it was some kind of sly tongue-in-cheek masterpiece.(George, didn't you send a favorable review of it from England? ) Also not surprised to see Battlefield Earth on there. I tried to watch that one rainy Sunday morning when I didn't want to go anywhere--and turned the channel after ten minutes. Never saw this Ballistic: Ecks vs. Sever flick. The trailers were so bad I avoided it. Same for Eddie Murphy's Adventures of Pluto Nash, Norbit, and anything with Big Mamma in the title. Thoughts? Anything on here undeservedly, to your mind? Anything not on here that should be? * http://www.rottentomatoes.com/guides/worst_of_the_worst/ Intro | How It Works Over the last decade, we've collected reviews for thousands of movies. Most films, even profoundly mediocre ones, can expect to receive at least cursory support from the pundits. However, once in a while, a film will take such a critical drubbing that further attention is warranted. That's where our Worst of the Worst list comes in. We've compiled a veritable cornucopia of dull, foolhardy, and outright terrible films, from legendary duds (Battlefield Earth) to chuckle-deficient comedies (Epic Movie), from hapless sequels (Basic Instinct 2) to scare-free would-be fright fests (Alone in the Dark). We've pored over the reviews to bring you the lowest Tomatometers of the decade -- including several (All About Steve, Whiteout) that were released within the last several weeks. In other words, we suffered for our work -- now it's your turn. Each critic from our discrete list gets one vote, all weighted equally. Reviews without ratings are not counted toward the results. Because reviews are continually added, manually and otherwise, we have a cutoff date at which new reviews are not counted. The current cut off date is 9/21/2009. The movies contained in this list are from 2000 to 2009. We rank the movies by Tomatometer. in the event of a tie score, the film with more reviews is ranked more highly. _ Microsoft brings you a new way to search the web. Try Bing now http://www.bing.com?form=MFEHPGpubl=WLHMTAGcrea=TEXT_MFEHPG_Core_tagline_try bing_1x1
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You're not alone, B. I've seen about 85 of them. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: daikaij...@yahoo.com Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 21:55:58 + Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Rotten Tomatoes Picks Worst Movies of the Last Decade The saddest thing is how much time I've wasted watching movies that appear on this list. I've seen and hated a ton of these turkeys. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, B Smith daikaij...@... wrote: It's one of those movies that has the right ingredients(great cast and decent story) but everything else goes horribly wrong. I bet that someone else could make this movie with the same cast and story turn out a faily entertaining flick but the director, production designer, etc. butchered this. John Woo could have made this film in his sleep and the final product would have been better. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Martin Baxter truthseeker013@ wrote: Oh, and Keith -- you spared yourself much pain by missing Ballistic: Ecks vs Sever. When I finally saw it (letting it filter all the way down to cable), the only things I wanted to sever were my optic nerves. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: KeithBJohnson@ Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 16:01:36 + Subject: [scifinoir2] Rotten Tomatoes Picks Worst Movies of the Last Decade Not at all surprised to see Catwoman on tis list, despite some of you who inexplicably thought it was some kind of sly tongue-in-cheek masterpiece.(George, didn't you send a favorable review of it from England? ) Also not surprised to see Battlefield Earth on there. I tried to watch that one rainy Sunday morning when I didn't want to go anywhere--and turned the channel after ten minutes. Never saw this Ballistic: Ecks vs. Sever flick. The trailers were so bad I avoided it. Same for Eddie Murphy's Adventures of Pluto Nash, Norbit, and anything with Big Mamma in the title. Thoughts? Anything on here undeservedly, to your mind? Anything not on here that should be? * http://www.rottentomatoes.com/guides/worst_of_the_worst/ Intro | How It Works Over the last decade, we've collected reviews for thousands of movies. Most films, even profoundly mediocre ones, can expect to receive at least cursory support from the pundits. However, once in a while, a film will take such a critical drubbing that further attention is warranted. That's where our Worst of the Worst list comes in. We've compiled a veritable cornucopia of dull, foolhardy, and outright terrible films, from legendary duds (Battlefield Earth) to chuckle-deficient comedies (Epic Movie), from hapless sequels (Basic Instinct 2) to scare-free would-be fright fests (Alone in the Dark). We've pored over the reviews to bring you the lowest Tomatometers of the decade -- including several (All About Steve, Whiteout) that were released within the last several weeks. In other words, we suffered for our work -- now it's your turn. Each critic from our discrete list gets one vote, all weighted equally. Reviews without ratings are not counted toward the results. Because reviews are continually added, manually and otherwise, we have a cutoff date at which new reviews are not counted. The current cut off date is 9/21/2009. The movies contained in this list are from 2000 to 2009. We rank the movies by Tomatometer. in the event of a tie score, the film with more reviews is ranked more highly. __ Microsoft brings you a new way to search the web. Try Bing™ now http://www.bing.com?form=MFEHPGpubl=WLHMTAGcrea=TEXT_MFEHPG_Core_tagline_try bing_1x1 _ Hotmail® has ever-growing storage! Don’t worry about storage limits. http://windowslive.com/Tutorial/Hotmail/Storage?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Tutorial_Storage_062009
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I'll agree with you there, B. Thinking about it now, the movie feels like a weak American stab at HK-type cinema. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: daikaij...@yahoo.com Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 21:42:10 + Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Rotten Tomatoes Picks Worst Movies of the Last Decade It's one of those movies that has the right ingredients(great cast and decent story) but everything else goes horribly wrong. I bet that someone else could make this movie with the same cast and story turn out a faily entertaining flick but the director, production designer, etc. butchered this. John Woo could have made this film in his sleep and the final product would have been better. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@... wrote: Oh, and Keith -- you spared yourself much pain by missing Ballistic: Ecks vs Sever. When I finally saw it (letting it filter all the way down to cable), the only things I wanted to sever were my optic nerves. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: keithbjohn...@... Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 16:01:36 + Subject: [scifinoir2] Rotten Tomatoes Picks Worst Movies of the Last Decade Not at all surprised to see Catwoman on tis list, despite some of you who inexplicably thought it was some kind of sly tongue-in-cheek masterpiece.(George, didn't you send a favorable review of it from England? ) Also not surprised to see Battlefield Earth on there. I tried to watch that one rainy Sunday morning when I didn't want to go anywhere--and turned the channel after ten minutes. Never saw this Ballistic: Ecks vs. Sever flick. The trailers were so bad I avoided it. Same for Eddie Murphy's Adventures of Pluto Nash, Norbit, and anything with Big Mamma in the title. Thoughts? Anything on here undeservedly, to your mind? Anything not on here that should be? * http://www.rottentomatoes.com/guides/worst_of_the_worst/ Intro | How It Works Over the last decade, we've collected reviews for thousands of movies. Most films, even profoundly mediocre ones, can expect to receive at least cursory support from the pundits. However, once in a while, a film will take such a critical drubbing that further attention is warranted. That's where our Worst of the Worst list comes in. We've compiled a veritable cornucopia of dull, foolhardy, and outright terrible films, from legendary duds (Battlefield Earth) to chuckle-deficient comedies (Epic Movie), from hapless sequels (Basic Instinct 2) to scare-free would-be fright fests (Alone in the Dark). We've pored over the reviews to bring you the lowest Tomatometers of the decade -- including several (All About Steve, Whiteout) that were released within the last several weeks. In other words, we suffered for our work -- now it's your turn. Each critic from our discrete list gets one vote, all weighted equally. Reviews without ratings are not counted toward the results. Because reviews are continually added, manually and otherwise, we have a cutoff date at which new reviews are not counted. The current cut off date is 9/21/2009. The movies contained in this list are from 2000 to 2009. We rank the movies by Tomatometer. in the event of a tie score, the film with more reviews is ranked more highly. __ Microsoft brings you a new way to search the web. Try Bing™ now http://www.bing.com?form=MFEHPGpubl=WLHMTAGcrea=TEXT_MFEHPG_Core_tagline_try bing_1x1 _ Insert movie times and more without leaving Hotmail®. http://windowslive.com/Tutorial/Hotmail/QuickAdd?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Tutorial_QuickAdd_062009
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Bad Boys 2 is just pure excess and can at least be appreciated for the sheer level of bayhem *heh* on the screen. Ballistic is just horrible. Watching it will make you yearn for Bay's migraine inducing, quick cutting action porn. -- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@... wrote: Wow, really was that bad, huh? Can you give me a quick indication of why? I mean, i find it hard to imagine how something could be so much worse than Bad Boys 2... - Original Message - From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@... To: SciFiNoir2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 4:33:46 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Rotten Tomatoes Picks Worst Movies of the Last Decade Oh, and Keith -- you spared yourself much pain by missing Ballistic: Ecks vs Sever. When I finally saw it (letting it filter all the way down to cable), the only things I wanted to sever were my optic nerves. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: keithbjohn...@... Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 16:01:36 + Subject: [scifinoir2] Rotten Tomatoes Picks Worst Movies of the Last Decade Not at all surprised to see Catwoman on tis list, despite some of you who inexplicably thought it was some kind of sly tongue-in-cheek masterpiece.(George, didn't you send a favorable review of it from England? ) Also not surprised to see Battlefield Earth on there. I tried to watch that one rainy Sunday morning when I didn't want to go anywhere--and turned the channel after ten minutes. Never saw this Ballistic: Ecks vs. Sever flick. The trailers were so bad I avoided it. Same for Eddie Murphy's Adventures of Pluto Nash, Norbit, and anything with Big Mamma in the title. Thoughts? Anything on here undeservedly, to your mind? Anything not on here that should be? * http://www.rottentomatoes.com/guides/worst_of_the_worst/ Intro | How It Works Over the last decade, we've collected reviews for thousands of movies. Most films, even profoundly mediocre ones, can expect to receive at least cursory support from the pundits. However, once in a while, a film will take such a critical drubbing that further attention is warranted. That's where our Worst of the Worst list comes in. We've compiled a veritable cornucopia of dull, foolhardy, and outright terrible films, from legendary duds ( Battlefield Earth ) to chuckle-deficient comedies ( Epic Movie ), from hapless sequels ( Basic Instinct 2 ) to scare-free would-be fright fests ( Alone in the Dark ). We've pored over the reviews to bring you the lowest Tomatometers of the decade -- including several ( All About Steve , Whiteout ) that were released within the last several weeks. In other words, we suffered for our work -- now it's your turn. ⢠Each critic from our discrete list gets one vote, all weighted equally. ⢠Reviews without ratings are not counted toward the results. ⢠Because reviews are continually added, manually and otherwise, we have a cutoff date at which new reviews are not counted. The current cut off date is 9/21/2009. ⢠The movies contained in this list are from 2000 to 2009. ⢠We rank the movies by Tomatometer. in the event of a tie score, the film with more reviews is ranked more highly. Microsoft brings you a new way to search the web. Try Bing⢠now
[scifinoir2] Re: Rotten Tomatoes Picks Worst Movies of the Last Decade
Did I miss something? I don't see Catwoman on this list. Catwoman clocked a mighty 10% fresh rating and this list starts with Whiteout (number 100) with a 7% fresh rating. It is all down hill from there. While this list is strictly based on the fresh rating these films accrued (or failed to), there should be a distinction between something like Basic Instinct 2 which is high gloss trash(like Showgirls) but watchable and Glitter which is utterly unwatchable. ~(no)rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@... wrote: Not at all surprised to see Catwoman on tis list, despite some of you who inexplicably thought it was some kind of sly tongue-in-cheek masterpiece.(George, didn't you send a favorable review of it from England? ) Also not surprised to see Battlefield Earth on there. I tried to watch that one rainy Sunday morning when I didn't want to go anywhere--and turned the channel after ten minutes. Never saw this Ballistic: Ecks vs. Sever flick. The trailers were so bad I avoided it. Same for Eddie Murphy's Adventures of Pluto Nash, Norbit, and anything with Big Mamma in the title. Thoughts? Anything on here undeservedly, to your mind? Anything not on here that should be? * http://www.rottentomatoes.com/guides/worst_of_the_worst/ Intro | How It Works Over the last decade, we've collected reviews for thousands of movies. Most films, even profoundly mediocre ones, can expect to receive at least cursory support from the pundits. However, once in a while, a film will take such a critical drubbing that further attention is warranted. That's where our Worst of the Worst list comes in. We've compiled a veritable cornucopia of dull, foolhardy, and outright terrible films, from legendary duds ( Battlefield Earth ) to chuckle-deficient comedies ( Epic Movie ), from hapless sequels ( Basic Instinct 2 ) to scare-free would-be fright fests ( Alone in the Dark ). We've pored over the reviews to bring you the lowest Tomatometers of the decade -- including several ( All About Steve , Whiteout ) that were released within the last several weeks. In other words, we suffered for our work -- now it's your turn. ⢠Each critic from our discrete list gets one vote, all weighted equally. ⢠Reviews without ratings are not counted toward the results. ⢠Because reviews are continually added, manually and otherwise, we have a cutoff date at which new reviews are not counted. The current cut off date is 9/21/2009. ⢠The movies contained in this list are from 2000 to 2009. ⢠We rank the movies by Tomatometer. in the event of a tie score, the film with more reviews is ranked more highly.
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Well, they discussed that, and I think one man's unwatchable is another man's high camp. Like I said, I think George reviewed Catwoman when he was in Britain, and thought it was camp fun. I found it to be some of the worst trash ever put on celluloid. Let me check the list again, 'cause I could swear Catwoman was on it. - Original Message - From: Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 11:05:53 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Rotten Tomatoes Picks Worst Movies of the Last Decade Did I miss something? I don't see Catwoman on this list. Catwoman clocked a mighty 10% fresh rating and this list starts with Whiteout (number 100) with a 7% fresh rating. It is all down hill from there. While this list is strictly based on the fresh rating these films accrued (or failed to), there should be a distinction between something like Basic Instinct 2 which is high gloss trash(like Showgirls) but watchable and Glitter which is utterly unwatchable. ~(no)rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@... wrote: Not at all surprised to see Catwoman on tis list, despite some of you who inexplicably thought it was some kind of sly tongue-in-cheek masterpiece.(George, didn't you send a favorable review of it from England? ) Also not surprised to see Battlefield Earth on there. I tried to watch that one rainy Sunday morning when I didn't want to go anywhere--and turned the channel after ten minutes. Never saw this Ballistic: Ecks vs. Sever flick. The trailers were so bad I avoided it. Same for Eddie Murphy's Adventures of Pluto Nash, Norbit, and anything with Big Mamma in the title. Thoughts? Anything on here undeservedly, to your mind? Anything not on here that should be? * http://www.rottentomatoes.com/guides/worst_of_the_worst/ Intro | How It Works Over the last decade, we've collected reviews for thousands of movies. Most films, even profoundly mediocre ones, can expect to receive at least cursory support from the pundits. However, once in a while, a film will take such a critical drubbing that further attention is warranted. That's where our Worst of the Worst list comes in. We've compiled a veritable cornucopia of dull, foolhardy, and outright terrible films, from legendary duds ( Battlefield Earth ) to chuckle-deficient comedies ( Epic Movie ), from hapless sequels ( Basic Instinct 2 ) to scare-free would-be fright fests ( Alone in the Dark ). We've pored over the reviews to bring you the lowest Tomatometers of the decade -- including several ( All About Steve , Whiteout ) that were released within the last several weeks. In other words, we suffered for our work -- now it's your turn. • Each critic from our discrete list gets one vote, all weighted equally. • Reviews without ratings are not counted toward the results. • Because reviews are continually added, manually and otherwise, we have a cutoff date at which new reviews are not counted. The current cut off date is 9/21/2009. • The movies contained in this list are from 2000 to 2009. • We rank the movies by Tomatometer. in the event of a tie score, the film with more reviews is ranked more highly.
