[scifinoir2] Black Dutch, Irish etc.

[Amanda]

http://www.geocities.com/mikenassau/BlackDutch.htm

This is intersting.  The part about Hitler is funny.  Just imagine if 
someone had told that man he probably had black ancestory.  






 
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[scifinoir2] Torchwood Dr. Who Spin-off

[Amanda]

I just found this out at http://www.the-mill.com/index.php wish scifi 
would pick this up.  At least we can see season 1 of Dr. Who on BBC 
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[scifinoir2] Re: Anyone Watching "Jericho"?

[Amanda]

for anyone who's missed an ep you can catch the ep at 
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[scifinoir2] Re: Study Dispels Some Sexual Behavior Myths

[Amanda]

I saw a special on teens and the whole friends with Benifits etc. 
Anyways even that special said that the new generation are having 
less physical sex etc.lol more of them have taken up abstentence, 
but are practicing oral because they think it's not sex because of 
what numbskull?

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> Interesting. This also points out that we need to be careful 
sometimes listening to the "experts" and "facts". For example, one 
person says the realization that Africans aren't promiscuous was a 
surprise. I've never thought of Africans as promiscuous--at least, 
not nearly on the level of Westerners. I'd always thought of the 
AIDS/HIV and other STD issues as being related more to education, 
health care, etc.  One wonders how many well-meaning organizations 
are thus taking the wrong paths to helping other populations, given 
that their premises may be wrong.
> 
> And what's up with Indonesia? Did they flip the data? They're 
saying the *women* there start *that much* sooner than the men??? 
Now that's a surprise!
> 
> ***
> 
> Study Dispels Some Sexual Behavior Myths
> By MARIA CHENG, AP Medical Writer
> Tue Oct 31, 11:13 PM
> LONDON - In the first comprehensive global study of sexual 
behavior, British researchers found that people aren't losing their 
virginity at ever younger ages, married people have the most sex, 
and there is no firm link between promiscuity and sexually 
transmitted diseases.
> The study was published Wednesday as part of a series on sexual 
and reproductive health by the British medical journal The Lancet. 
Professor Kaye Wellings of the London School of Hygiene and Tropical 
Medicines and her colleagues analyzed data from 59 countries.
> Experts say the study will be useful not only in dispelling 
popular myths about sexual behavior, but in shaping policies that 
will help improve sexual health across the world.
> Researchers looked at published studies on sexual behavior in the 
last decade. They also used data from national governments 
worldwide. Wellings noted that since the survey results were based 
on self-reporting, they could be susceptible to error.
> Wellings said she was surprised by some of the survey's results.
> "We did have some of our preconceptions dashed," she said, 
explaining they had expected to find the most promiscuous behavior 
in regions like Africa with the highest rates of sexually 
transmitted diseases. That was not the case, as multiple partners 
were more commonly reported in industrialized countries where the 
incidence of such diseases was relatively low.
> "There's a misperception that there's a great deal of promiscuity 
in Africa, which is one of the potential reasons for HIV/AIDS 
spreading so rapidly," said Dr. Paul van Look, director of 
Reproductive Health and Research at the World Health Organization, 
who was not connected to the study. "But that view is not supported 
by the evidence."
> Wellings says that implies promiscuity may be less important than 
factors such as poverty and education _ especially in the 
encouragement of condom use _ in the transmission of sexually 
transmitted diseases.
> The survey found that single men and women in Africa were fairly 
sexually inactive: only two-thirds of them reported recent sexual 
activity, compared with three-quarters of their counterparts in 
developed countries.
> The study also found that contrary to popular belief, sexual 
activity is not starting earlier. Nearly everywhere, men and women 
have their first sexual experiences in their late teens _ from 15 to 
19 years old _ with generally younger ages for women than for men, 
especially in developing countries. That is no younger than 10 years 
ago.
> Still, there are considerable variations across countries. In the 
United Kingdom, for example, men and women tend to lose their 
virginity at ages 16 1/2 and 17 1/2 respectively. In comparison, men 
and women in Indonesia waited until they were 24 1/2 and 18 1/2 
respectively.
> Researchers also found that married people have the most sex, 
reporting engaging in sexual activity in the previous four weeks 
more frequently than single people. There has also been a gradual 
shift to delay marriage, even in developing countries.
> While that has meant a predictable rise in the rates of premarital 
sex, experts say this doesn't necessarily translate into more 
dangerous behavior.
> In some instances, married women may be at more risk than single 
women.
> "A single woman is more able to negotiate safe sex in certain 
circumstances than a married woman," says van Look, who points out 
that married women in Africa and Asia are often threatened by 
unfaithful husbands who frequent prostitutes.
> There is much greater equality between women and men with regard 
to the number of sexual partners in rich countries than in poor 
countries, the study found.
> For example, men and women in Australia, Britain, France and the 

[scifinoir2] Re: Anyone Watching "Jericho"?

[Amanda]

and if you want to see the latest ep todays scroll down cbs.com

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> for anyone who's missed an ep you can catch the ep at 
> http://www.cbs.com click on New Dramas and then click the watch free 
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[scifinoir2] Re: Anyone Watching "Jericho"?

[Amanda]

If the other reply I made comes up just ignore that one.

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[scifinoir2] Black Americans Having Trouble Finding Nannies Even When the Nannies are Black

[Amanda]

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/12/26/us/26nannies.html?_r=1&oref=slogin

This is insane.

[scifinoir2] Indian Cinema Becoming More Self Sufficient

[Amanda]

http://www.bbcworld.com/content/template_talkingmovies.asp?
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[scifinoir2] Re: www.triggerstreet.com

[Amanda]

Oreoblue

you might also want to check out http://www.zoetrope.com and 
http://www.heliumlist.com

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> Yes, sure I should be writing away but I've been on 
_www.triggerstreet.com_ 
> (http://www.triggerstreet.com)  this morning. And  realized I 
didn't brag about 
> it anytime this year. This is Kevin Spacey's  website for 
screenplay and 
> short video reviews. It's basically a crit group for  indie films 
and unknown 
> screenwriters. It's fun. One downloads and reviews films  and 
screenplays and 
> rates them. The films that get a lotta votes rise to the top  
(unless nasty-minded 
> jealous competitors decide to write bad reviews to bring it  
down.) The films 
> that receive great reviews are looked over by Kevin to see if  
they are 
> produceable. It's a fun way to look at cute little videos and to 
study  the craft 
> of screenplays. Also a great place to waste one's time looking at  
strange 
> little flicks. 
>  
> Warning...it takes about five minutes to sign up to this site. But 
it  really 
> is worth it. -C 
>  
> Carole  McDonnell  
> If bounced, please use my alternate email: carole.mcdonnell  (at) 
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[scifinoir2] Nollywood' Catches World's Eye

[Amanda]

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/12/20/entertainment/main1142995.sht
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[scifinoir2] Re: Studios Unveil 2006 Slates

[Amanda]

check out http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0370032/

--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Daryle Lockhart 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> wow.
> 
> Looks like a busy year. I see the studios are still employing  
> multimillionaires to  do voice over work for animation.
> 
> I dug a little bit  into these releases and it looks like  
> "Ultraviolet"  is a reworking of a really  great  BBC miniseries 
that  
> starred Idris Elba and Jack Davenport back in 1998. Looks like  
> they're going for more of an action movie angle and not so much an 
X  
> Files feel as the original had. Idris is on a bit of a roll right 
now  
> and I really don't get why he's not in this, but if you can find 
this  
> on DVD,  it's worth checking out before seeing this remake.
> 
> I know GreenCine has it available for rental, so here goes: 
http:// 
> www.greencine.com/webCatalog?id=14312&element=ultraviolet
> 
> Happy new year.
> 
> Daryle
> 
> 
> On Jan 1, 2006, at 5:09 PM, Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey 
L.  
> Minor) wrote:
> 
> 
> The major studios have begun announcing their slates of releases 
for  
> 2006,
> and they are full of science fiction, fantasy, supernatural 
thrillers  
> and
> computer-animated movies. A rundown follows.
> 
> Paramount will offer the Tom Cruise sequel Mission: Impossible 
III, from
> director and Lost creator J.J. Abrams, on May 5; the computer-
animated
> Barnyard, featuring the voices of Courteney Cox and Danny Glover, 
on  
> Oct. 6;
> and the live-action and animated Charlotte's Web, starring Dakota  
> Fanning,
> on Dec. 20.
> 
> Sony has the sequel Underworld: Evolution on Jan 20; Ultraviolet, 
a  
> vampire
> thriller starring Milla Jovovich, on Feb. 24; Silent Hill, based 
on the
> video game, on April 21; Ron Howard's The Da Vinci Code, based on 
the
> worldwide best-seller, on May 19; the Adam Sandler fantasy comedy  
> Click on
> June 23; the computer-animated Monster House on July 21; The 
Return  
> of Zoom,
> a comic-based superhero comedy starring Tim Allen, on Aug. 11; The
> Messengers, a supernatural thriller from the Pang brothers, on 
Aug.  
> 18; the
> supernatural fantasy drama The Covenant on Sept. 8; the computer- 
> animated
> Open Season, featuring the voices of Martin Lawrence, Ashton 
Kutcher and
> Debra Messing, on Sept. 29; the horror sequel The Grudge 2 on 
Oct.  
> 20; the
> offbeat Will Ferrell comedy Stranger Than Fiction on Nov. 10; and 
the  
> 21st
> James Bond movie, Casino Royale, which introduces Daniel Craig as  
> 007, on
> Nov. 17.
> 
> Fox will unveil the Lindsay Lohan comedy Just My Luck on March 3; 
the
> computer-animated sequel film Ice Age 2: The Meltdown on March 31; 
the
> mermaid movie Aquamarine on April 14; Brett Ratner's X-Men 3 on 
May  
> 26; the
> horror sequel The Omen 666 on June 6; Garfield 2 on June 23; My 
Super
> Ex-Girlfriend, a comedy starring Uma Thurman, on July 14; and the 
film
> version of the fantasy best-seller Eragon on Dec. 15. Also coming  
> from Fox
> in 2006 is the Mike Judge satire Idiocracy and the vampire SF 
movie  
> Perfect
> Creature.
> 
> Warner will offer up the Wachowski brothers' V for Vendetta on 
March  
> 17; the
> Keanu Reeves romantic fantasy movie The Lake House on June 16; 
Bryan
> Singer's hotly anticipated Superman Returns on June 29; M. Night  
> Shyamalan's
> next creepy fantasy film, Lady in the Water, on July 21; the
> computer-animated fantasy movie The Ant Bully on Aug. 4; the 
Nicole  
> Kidman
> alien invasion story The Visiting on Aug. 11; Hilary Swank's  
> supernatural
> thriller The Reaping in October; and the computer-animated Happy  
> Feet, with
> a voice cast of dozens, on Nov. 17. Also on Warner's docket for 
2006  
> is the
> Darren Aronofsky SF epic The Fountain.
> 
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[scifinoir2] Re: Studios Unveil 2006 Slates

[Amanda]

I am so glad that this isn't based on the series.  I remember that 
remake Fox was supposed to do.  When I saw the cast I was like 
what.  None of the characters had the appeal of the originals it was 
like they were trying to have models inc. or something.  The only 
cast member that was cool was Idris, but then again they probably 
would have jacked his character up.  

--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "Keith Johnson" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> That makes two of us. I groaned a couple of years ago when someone
> mentioned they were going to Americanize the British miniseries. I 
had
> nightmare visions of surgically enhanced blondes running around,
> square-jawed white dudes barely out of college pushing around 
older,
> smarter, better, Brothers, the obligatory dark-as-night, bald 
Brothers
> used as muscle, and lots of mindless action a la "Bad Boys".  I 
think
> I'm still grateful that show never materialized. Now I'm really
> skeptical of this...
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Martin Pratt
> Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2006 19:34
> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Studios Unveil 2006 Slates
> 
> 
> Unfortunately. Be glad that none of you were in earshot when I 
found out
> that this *wasn't* based on the series.
> 
> "B. Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  Unfortunately this Ultraviolet
> has nothing to do with the TV series. 
> This is the vampire movie from the director of Equilibrium that 
has 
> been in production limbo for quite a while. The original 
production 
> title was The Valkyrie.
> 
> --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Daryle Lockhart 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > wow.
> > 
> > Looks like a busy year. I see the studios are still employing  
> > multimillionaires to  do voice over work for animation.
> > 
> > I dug a little bit  into these releases and it looks like  
> > "Ultraviolet"  is a reworking of a really  great  BBC miniseries 
> that  
> > starred Idris Elba and Jack Davenport back in 1998. Looks like  
> > they're going for more of an action movie angle and not so much 
an 
> X  
> > Files feel as the original had. Idris is on a bit of a roll 
right 
> now  
> > and I really don't get why he's not in this, but if you can find 
> this  
> > on DVD,  it's worth checking out before seeing this remake.
> > 
> > I know GreenCine has it available for rental, so here goes: 
> http:// 
> > www.greencine.com/webCatalog?id=14312&element=ultraviolet
> > 
> > Happy new year.
> > 
> > Daryle
> > 
> > 
> > On Jan 1, 2006, at 5:09 PM, Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey 
> L.  
> > Minor) wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > The major studios have begun announcing their slates of releases 
> for  
> > 2006,
> > and they are full of science fiction, fantasy, supernatural 
> thrillers  
> > and
> > computer-animated movies. A rundown follows.
> > 
> > Paramount will offer the Tom Cruise sequel Mission: Impossible 
> III, from
> > director and Lost creator J.J. Abrams, on May 5; the computer-
> animated
> > Barnyard, featuring the voices of Courteney Cox and Danny 
Glover, 
> on  
> > Oct. 6;
> > and the live-action and animated Charlotte's Web, starring 
Dakota  
> > Fanning,
> > on Dec. 20.
> > 
> > Sony has the sequel Underworld: Evolution on Jan 20; 
Ultraviolet, 
> a  
> > vampire
> > thriller starring Milla Jovovich, on Feb. 24; Silent Hill, based 
> on the
> > video game, on April 21; Ron Howard's The Da Vinci Code, based 
on 
> the
> > worldwide best-seller, on May 19; the Adam Sandler fantasy 
comedy  
> > Click on
> > June 23; the computer-animated Monster House on July 21; The 
> Return  
> > of Zoom,
> > a comic-based superhero comedy starring Tim Allen, on Aug. 11; 
The
> > Messengers, a supernatural thriller from the Pang brothers, on 
> Aug.  
> > 18; the
> > supernatural fantasy drama The Covenant on Sept. 8; the computer-
 
> > animated
> > Open Season, featuring the voices of Martin Lawrence, Ashton 
> Kutcher and
> > Debra Messing, on Sept. 29; the horror sequel The Grudge 2 on 
> Oct.  
> > 20; the
> > offbeat Will Ferrell comedy Stranger Than Fiction on Nov. 10; 
and 
> the  
> > 21st
> > James Bond movie, Casino Royale, which introduces Daniel Craig 
as  
> > 007, on
> > Nov. 17.
> > 
> > Fox will unveil the Lindsay Lohan comedy Just My Luck on March 
3; 
> the
> > computer-animated sequel film Ice Age 2: The Meltdown on March 
31; 
> the
> > mermaid movie Aquamarine on April 14; Brett Ratner's X-Men 3 on 
> May  
> > 26; the
> > horror sequel The Omen 666 on June 6; Garfield 2 on June 23; My 
> Super
> > Ex-Girlfriend, a comedy starring Uma Thurman, on July 14; and 
the 
> film
> > version of the fantasy best-seller Eragon on Dec. 15. Also 
coming  
> > from Fox
> > in 2006 is the Mike Judge satire Idiocracy and the vampire SF 
> movie  
> > Perfect
> > Creature.
> > 
> > Warner will offer up the Wachowski brothers' V for Vendetta on 
> March  
> > 17; the
> > Keanu Ree

[scifinoir2] Henry the 8th Docu

[Amanda]

Man that story was jacked up.  The guy was a nice dude when he fist 
became king and by the end of it was a raving lunatic.  





 
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[scifinoir2] Pretty Cool Band

[Amanda]

http://www.dresdendolls.com  they sound so theatrical it's crazy.





 
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[scifinoir2] Scifi Neilsen Ratings

[Amanda]

H.G. Wells' War of the Worlds 2.0 
Battlestar Galactica 2.0 
Stargate SG-1 1.7 
Stargate Atlantis 1.6 
Alien Hunter 1.3 
Fire in the Sky 1.0 
Invasion, part one 1.0 
Close Encounters 0.9 
Hercules, part two 0.9 
Caved In: Prehistoric Terror 0.9 

Source: Nielsen Galaxy Report, 1/09/06 - 1/15/06 

Battlestar Galactica 1.9 
Stargate Atlantis 1.8 
Stargate SG-1 1.8 
Magma: Volcanic Disaster 1.7 
John Doe 1.2 
The Mummy Returns 1.2 
Dantes Peak 1.0 
Terminal Error 1.0 
Post Impact 1.0 
Tidal Wave: No Escape 0.9 

Source: Nielsen Galaxy Report, 1/16/06 - 1/22/06 


 Stargate Atlantis  1.9 
 Battlestar Galactica 1.8 
 Stargate SG-1  1.8 
 Swarmed 1.6 
 Dark Prince  1.2 
 Locusts: The 8th Plague  1.2 
 John Doe  1.1 
 The Forsaken  1.1 
 The Ninth Gate  1.1 
 Flying Virus  1.0 
 
Source: Nielsen Galaxy Report, 1/23/06 - 1/29/06 

 1. Battlestar Galactica 2.2 
2. Stargate Atlantis 2.2 
3. Stargate SG-1 2.1 
4. Mansquito 1.5 
5. The Bone Snatcher 1.3 
6. Dragon Storm 1.2 
7. Star Trek: First Contact 1.1 
8. Dark Waters 1.0 
9. Mission to Mars 1.0 
10. Red Planet 1.0 

Source: Nielsen Galaxy Report, 3/7/05 - 3/13/05 


or you can go to http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire/ I think they post 
the ratings every Monday or something

Those ratings don't have to be major network high in order to last.  
I remember at TV Writer.com Larry Brody said audiences can be around 
500,000 (maybe higher now) to last on the cable networks and around 
4,000,000 to 5 to last on the Majors. 

The Network Shows (these are old, and the ones I could find. that 
could be found on scifi wire as well)

1. Desperate Housewives 14.4 
2. Lost 12.6 
3. Medium 10.4 
4. Joan of Arcadia 5.8 
5. Charmed 2.3 
6. Enterprise 1.9 
7. Smallville 1.9 

1/10/05 - 1/16/05

1. Medium 10.3 
2. Desperate Housewives 8.3 
3. Lost 7.8 
4. Joan of Arcadia 5.7 
5. Smallville 2.9 
6. Charmed 2.4 
7. Enterprise 1.8 

1/24/05 - 1/30/05

1. Medium 10.2 
2. Lost 6.7 
3. Desperate Housewives 6.2 
4. Smallville 3.0 
5. Point Pleasant 2.3 
6. Enterprise 1.9 

1/31/05 - 2/6/05

1. Desperate Housewives 14 
2. Lost 11.6 
3. Medium 9.2 
4. Joan of Arcadia 5.0 
5. Smallville 3.1 
6. Point Pleasant 2.6 
7. Charmed 2.0 
8. Enterprise 1.8 

2/7/05 - 2/13/05

1. Desperate Housewives 14.7 
2. Lost 11.0 
3. Medium 9.4 
4. Joan of Arcadia 4.8 
5. Smallville 3.0 
6. Point Pleasant 2.5 
7. Charmed 2.0 
8. Enterprise 1.9 

2/14/05 - 2/20/05

1. Lost 11.3 
2. Medium 10 
3. Alias 6.3 
4. Joan of Arcadia 5.2 
5. Smallville 2.8 
6. Charmed 1.3 

2/28/05 - 3/6/05


Notice how 1-2 is good on the WB/UPN etc.  I wonder what will happen 
when the WB and UPN merge for CW
 

 





 
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[scifinoir2] Re: WTF?--"Passions" coming to Sci Fi Channel

[Amanda]

Passions the dumbest as show on daytime television. Why does the 
Scifi channel keep buying crap over good programing?  It amazes me 
that they keep doing this despite the fact that most of these crap 
shows don't seem to last.  Remember Tremors, the Black Scorpian 
anyone?  I mean you'd think they would have figured out if you buy 
something watchable people will keep watching.  And now they go and 
pick up Passions for goodness sake.  If you want to get a 
supernatural soap then bring back DS not Passions e.   


--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "Keith Johnson" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Huh? I saw adds for "Passions" all last week, and was thinking it 
was a
> new series. My Comcast episode description likened it to "Dark 
Shadows",
> so I *really" felt it was something new, despite the images of 
young
> hard bodies I saw on the trailers. Little did I know it's reruns 
of that
> crazy soap from NBC!  Why??  I know next to nothing about that old 
show,
> though I think there was an evil lady who was a witch of some 
sort, and
> I think her assistant was a little person who might have been a 
doll she
> brought to life.  Needless to say, the VCR won't be set for this 
one!
>  
> http://www.scifi.com/events/event.php3?event_id=12919
> 
> &date=02/6/2006
> SCI FI Channel brings old episodes of NBC's supernatural soap opera
> Passions to SCI FI's morning schedule five days a week, starting
> February 6, 2006. 
> 
> 
> 
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[scifinoir2] Black Audiences for Cable TV

[Amanda]

found this in another group

Black Cable Viewers Cast Eyes Beyond BET

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By R. Thomas Umstead 2/13/2006In this story:
AWARDS SHOW TOPS LIST
NEW ORIGINALS



It probably comes as no surprise that Black Entertainment Television
was the No.1 rated network in primetime among African-American
viewers in 2005. But what may open a few eyes is that African-
Americans are also sampling more broad-based networks like Turner
Network Television, Disney Channel and even Lifetime Network at
nearly the same levels.

Network executives say efforts to provide more diverse images both
from their original and acquired programming are beginning to pay
dividends as African-American viewers tune into general
entertainment networks, as well as BET, to see images of themselves.

Despite the industry's emphasis on reaching Hispanic viewers,
network executives say they're not turning their backs on the
African-American audience. With African-American viewers
representing 23% of all cable subscribers — despite only making up
12% of all cable homes — network executives are conscious of
providing fare that will appeal to the group.

African-American Audience
  How cable networks fared with African-American households.
  2005 Rank Prime Network HH Rating 2005 HH Rating 2004 % Change 2005
Vs. 2004
1 BET 3.8 3.5 +9%
2 TNT 3.7 3.4 +9%
3 DSNY 3.6 3.4 +6%
4 LIF 3.5 3.0 +17%
4 NICK 3.5 3.5 Even
7 USA 3.1 2.5 +24%
7 NAN 3.1 2.8 +11%
9 TOON 2.9 3.0 -3%
10 ESPN 2.2 2.3 -4%
11 LMN 2.0 1.9 +5%
12 TVL 1.8 0.9 +100%
13 MTV 1.6 1.6 Even
14 SPIKE 1.5 1.2 +25%
14 TV1 1.5 N/A N/A
16 HALL 1.4 1.1 +27%
16 SCIFI 1.4 1.3 +8%
18 TBSC 1.2 1.5 -20%
19 COURT 1.1 1.0 +10%
19 FX 1.1 1.1 Even
* Nielsen Media Research, MarketBreaks, Live data; Prime 12/27/04-
12/25/05 vs.
12/29/03-12/26/04. Ranked on African-American Ratings 2005.



"Research tells us, and I think we all know in our guts, that when
there are characters on the air that you can relate to, whether in
personality, ethnicity or sexuality, you're going to tune in," said
USA Network president Bonnie Hammer.

Certainly no nationally rated network features more African-American
images on cable than BET. As a result, it was the highest-rated
network among African-Americans, with a 3.8 household rating and
delivering an average of 396,000 households.

The Top 10 Shows
  The highest-rated cable shows among African-Americans.
  Program Network Rating
BET Awards Show  BET 31.7
2005 NBA All-Star Game TNT 20.2
BET 25 Strong BET 17.7
NBA All Star Game Pre-Game Show TNT 16.2
BET Comedy Awards BET 16.0
2005 MTV Video Music Awards MTV 14.3
Celebration of Gospel BET 14.1
Proud Family Movie Dis 11.0
NBA All-Star Night TNT 10.3
Pro Bowl ESPN 8.3
*(Does not include live sports events such as TNT and ESPN's regular
season or playoff NBA telecasts or ESPN's regular season National
Football League telecasts.) Source: Nielsen Media Research figures
as interpreted by Disney ABC Cable Networks Group.


AWARDS SHOW TOPS LIST
The network, one of three African-American targeted cable services —
the other two, Black Family Channel and TV One, aren't nationally
rated — also posted the most-watched cable show among the group with
its June BET Awards Show — one of four BET specials that finished
among the top 10 shows of the year. The music-themed awards show
extravaganza garnered a 31.7 household rating in black households.

"[Last year] was our most-watched year ever for ratings, viewers and
households," said BET chairman Debra Lee. "We further solidified BET
as the No. 1 cable network in primetime for African-Americans and
the No. 1 cable network overall for our target demographic of
African-Americans ages 18-34."

While BET posted a 9% increase in its African-American household
rating, other networks were also increasing black viewers while
nipping at its the heels. TNT, on the strength of its package of
National Basketball Association regular season and playoff
telecasts, finished second with a 3.7 household rating (386,000
households).

"Because drama is so universal, drama lovers come from a wide
variety of racial, ethnic or social backgrounds, and they look to
TNT as a key viewing destination," said TNT senior vice president of
programming Ken Schwab.

The tween-targeted Disney Channel rode the popularity of its
multicultural comedy That's So Raven and its animated comedy The
Proud Family to third place with a 3.6 rating, while distaff network
Lifetime (369,000) and kids-targeted network Nickelodeon (368,000)
finished tied for fourth with a 3.5 rating among African-American
households. USA Network (325,000) and Nick At Nite (319,000) next
with a 3.1 rating.

Each of the top five networks posted increases with the exception of
Nickelodeon, which was flat. Networks such as USA Network (24%),
Lifetime (17%) and Nick At Nite (11%) turned in very strong
performances on the strength of original and acquired fare targeting
African-Americans.

For USA's

[scifinoir2] The Last Man On Earth on America Free TV

[Amanda]

http://www.americafree.tv/unicast_embed/AmericaFreeTVDimensionB.html

and check out http://www.americafree.tv pretty cool





 
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[scifinoir2] Night Walker

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[scifinoir2] NABOB calls merger of WB and UPN 'inequitable' to black TV station owners

[Amanda]

http://www.targetmarketnews.com/storyid02080602.htm

"The black-owned stations that were affiliates of the WB and UPN are 
facing the prospect of having no programming source and may be have to 
become independent stations buying all of their programs on the open 
market."

Why not take this as an opportunity to work together and create black 
programing.  They could have dramas/sitcoms etc.  It probably isn't 
that easy I get that, but instead of getting upset why aren't they 
forming a plan.  I mean this is going to happen they need to be doing 
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[scifinoir2] Re: NABOB calls merger of WB and UPN 'inequitable' to black TV station owners

[Amanda]

--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "Amanda" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> http://www.targetmarketnews.com/storyid02080602.htm
> 
> "The black-owned stations that were affiliates of the WB and UPN are 
> facing the prospect of having no programming source and may be have 
to 
> become independent stations buying all of their programs on the open 
> market."
> 
> Why not take this as an opportunity to work together and create 
black 
> programing.  They could have dramas/sitcoms etc.  It probably isn't 
> that easy I get that, but instead of getting upset why aren't they 
> forming a plan.  I mean this is going to happen they need to be 
doing 
> some strategies.

doesn't even have to be all black programing.  Hell there are good 
show that they could be picking up that have been canned even if they 
can only play it in syndication.  Then there is the syndication series 
like Cleo 2525 etc. they could be doing things like that.  
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[scifinoir2] Re: WTF?--"Passions" coming to Sci Fi Channel

[Amanda]

Nothing it's still on.

--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "md_moore42" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> Yeah, I remember sitting in a doctor's office and being amused at 
> this one.  I wondered what happened to it. 
> 
> --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "Keith Johnson" 
>  wrote:
> >
> > Huh? I saw adds for "Passions" all last week, and was thinking 
it 
> was a
> > new series. My Comcast episode description likened it to "Dark 
> Shadows",
> > so I *really" felt it was something new, despite the images of 
young
> > hard bodies I saw on the trailers. Little did I know it's reruns 
of 
> that
> > crazy soap from NBC!  Why??  I know next to nothing about that 
old 
> show,
> > though I think there was an evil lady who was a witch of some 
sort, 
> and
> > I think her assistant was a little person who might have been a 
> doll she
> > brought to life.  Needless to say, the VCR won't be set for this 
> one!
> >  
> > http://www.scifi.com/events/event.php3?event_id=12919
> >  event_id=12919&date=02/6/2006>
> > &date=02/6/2006
> > SCI FI Channel brings old episodes of NBC's supernatural soap 
opera
> > Passions to SCI FI's morning schedule five days a week, starting
> > February 6, 2006. 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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[scifinoir2] Re: Scifi Neilsen Ratings

[Amanda]

True, but they probably aren't going to change or get rid of it 
anytime soon.  They have found more accurate rating systems, but 
they tended not to be good on advertising and since that's where the 
money comes from the channels haven't adopted new systems.

The point is though that with those low ratings on the smaller 
networks like The WB and UPN being good at 1-2.9 or whatever, then 
they could have had a black drama.  They could have produced the 
drama on a lower budget if they had to like they do the sitcoms.  I 
wouldn't care as long as the show was good.  Now since a lot of 
people still don't get the WB or UPN that does still make it 
difficult and the bigger they get I think the more we will see less 
and less black sitcoms or possibilities for dramas.  Dejavu anyone?  
Reminds anyone of FOX?  It's cool that the channels are getting more 
of an audience and they are also merging, but where will we be?  

It's sad because I do remember when black Americans were talking 
about creating other channels catered to African American Audiences, 
people kept bring up that blacks owned UPN, because we had a lot of 
sitcoms.  Now we new a black person didn't own it, but we thought 
because UPN catered to us, because we were the majority audience.  
Now thats starting to change.  

Off well sort of off my rant

Another thing to think about is the ratings of City of Angels.  I 
the series was about 2mill black Americans watching the series.  Now 
think if that had been on UPN or WB.  I do think it would have done 
well.  Maybe not great like the majors, but well.  

It's also sad because we have black Americans who own independent 
stations.  Now I know they have to make money etc., but couldn't 
they come up with a way to work with each other if they are afraid 
about what will happen with The WB and UPN merge into CW?

In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Martin Pratt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> I think I've recounted this tale here soon after I joined this 
group.
>
>   When I was in college at Virginia State, I was into all 
the "geek" things, including Trek RPGing. One night, I went over to 
a friend's house for a session, and when he brought me in the door, 
he introduced me to his Neilsen box. He almost never used the thing, 
because he and his wife were both grad students, and they'd just had 
their first child, hence no time. But he did graciously offer to 
turn the TV on during any show I wanted to keep on the air.
>
>   My point? The system in place does not work, if something like 
that can happen. What we all watch depends on fewer than five 
thousand families across the country. That is not a representative 
sampling in any way, save "mathemetically". As a guy who knows a 
thing or two about numbers, let me say that, given the election 
results of '04 and a day or so, I can put anyone I want in the White 
House. Living or dead.
> 
> Amanda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>   H.G. Wells' War of the Worlds 2.0 
> Battlestar Galactica 2.0 
> Stargate SG-1 1.7 
> Stargate Atlantis 1.6 
> Alien Hunter 1.3 
> Fire in the Sky 1.0 
> Invasion, part one 1.0 
> Close Encounters 0.9 
> Hercules, part two 0.9 
> Caved In: Prehistoric Terror 0.9 
> 
> Source: Nielsen Galaxy Report, 1/09/06 - 1/15/06 
> 
> Battlestar Galactica 1.9 
> Stargate Atlantis 1.8 
> Stargate SG-1 1.8 
> Magma: Volcanic Disaster 1.7 
> John Doe 1.2 
> The Mummy Returns 1.2 
> Dantes Peak 1.0 
> Terminal Error 1.0 
> Post Impact 1.0 
> Tidal Wave: No Escape 0.9 
> 
> Source: Nielsen Galaxy Report, 1/16/06 - 1/22/06 
> 
> 
> Stargate Atlantis  1.9 
> Battlestar Galactica 1.8 
> Stargate SG-1  1.8 
> Swarmed 1.6 
> Dark Prince  1.2 
> Locusts: The 8th Plague  1.2 
> John Doe  1.1 
> The Forsaken  1.1 
> The Ninth Gate  1.1 
> Flying Virus  1.0 
> 
> Source: Nielsen Galaxy Report, 1/23/06 - 1/29/06 
> 
> 1. Battlestar Galactica 2.2 
> 2. Stargate Atlantis 2.2 
> 3. Stargate SG-1 2.1 
> 4. Mansquito 1.5 
> 5. The Bone Snatcher 1.3 
> 6. Dragon Storm 1.2 
> 7. Star Trek: First Contact 1.1 
> 8. Dark Waters 1.0 
> 9. Mission to Mars 1.0 
> 10. Red Planet 1.0 
> 
> Source: Nielsen Galaxy Report, 3/7/05 - 3/13/05 
> 
> 
> or you can go to http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire/ I think they post 
> the ratings every Monday or something
> 
> Those ratings don't have to be major network high in order to 
last.  
> I remember at TV Writer.com Larry Brody said audiences can be 
around 
> 500,000 (maybe higher now) to last on the cable networks and 
around 
> 4,000,000 to 5 to last on the Majors. 
> 
> The Network Shows (these are old, and the ones I could find. that 
> could be found on scifi wire as well)
> 
> 1. Desperat

[scifinoir2] '50s and '60s Bands Aim to Stop Copycats

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[scifinoir2] Re: A quick Battlestar Gallactica note...

[Amanda]

That's what I've been wondering.  I mean won't it be boring with 
only a few faces?  Or maybe they have been planning for a new 
generation of cylons that are half human half cylon like the baby.  
Maybe they originally planned on getting humans dna or maybe 
infiltrate the fleet and have them marrying having children with 
humans.  I just thought about this, what if there are already half 
cylon children?  I mean if six was using Baltar by having a 
relationship with him how do we know others weren't doing the same 
with other individuals of power, or just plain having relationships 
with humans?  The new generation may have already started.  Another 
thing is what's up with Baltar being in six's head like she's in 
his?  Is it psychological or something even deeper than that?

by the way Dr. Who is coming.  I'm happy.  I just wish they would 
start being more picky about what they pick up.lol

--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "Keith Johnson" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I don't know what Baltar is. It's been discussed over and over, 
how did
> he survive the destruction of Caprica, considering that his home 
was
> destroyed in the shockwave of a nuke?!  What's the deal with Six 
in his
> head? Not sure if he's God or not, but he's interesting as heck.  
By the
> way, what the heck kind of society do the Cylons expect to put 
together
> with only twelve different versions of the humanoid Cylons running
> around? They're more like Borg?
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of ponnfar
> Sent: Friday, February 24, 2006 23:10
> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: A quick Battlestar Gallactica note...
> 
> 
> OKI think I made my point. I started this thread and all else 
has
> been prattle! Ok...just kidding...so I am gloating a little... 
> I did wonder some months ago if he is indeed God --- BUT I DO NOT
> THINK SO (you heard it here first..hehe). In fact as of today I 
wonder
> if he is in fact a human who has found the Cylon technology and has
> used it for himself on a one man crusade as it were. Remember the
> legend of Zorro, the premise I mean, Count De la Vega is a coward 
but
> in fact he is the hero. Think of it, we would never suspect it. 
Just a
> thought.
> Ponn
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > > From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> > > Behalf Of ponnfar
> > > Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2006 09:01
> > > To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: [scifinoir2] A quick Battlestar Gallactica note...
> > >
> > >
> > > Ok...now does everyone get itis there ANY more doubt that 
Baltar
> > > is a Cylon??
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
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[scifinoir2] Re: Tyler Perry's 'Reunion' Tops Box Office

[Amanda]

Just hope that when they do figure this out they don't pull a 
blaxploitation on us.  By that I mean start making movies with black 
faces and white crew.  Now don't get me wrong nothing wrong with 
white people working on the crew, but when it's nothing but white 
people then something is wrong.  

--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Martin Pratt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> Maybe now they'll bother to notice that what we're looking for in 
our movies isn't always explosions, low-brow humor or sad remakes, 
but something original with substance.
> 
> Keith Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  Daammn! I knew Perry 
would do well, but thirty million?? That's nine
> million more than his first film made last year.  That's a 
fantastic
> sum, especially for a comedy, especially for a Black film, and
> especially for one with no "big" stars as defined by mainstream
> Hollywood. And to top it off, the movie's even getting good 
reviews.
> Perry's doing some important things here: he's showing Hollywood 
that
> Black films can make money without Denzel, Will Smith, Queen 
Latifah, or
> Sam Jackson.   He's proving that films with decent humour and no 
overt
> sexuality or violence resonate with Black audiences.  He's 
revealing to
> whites the previously unknown (to them) multi-million dollar 
industry of
> plays and Gospel musicals that have been playing to Black 
audiences for
> years. And he's showing that it's possible to make a movie for
> relatively little money that's *not* a horror, and still make a 
great
> profit.  Look for lots more films inspired like this (like "The 
Gospel",
> which came out last year).  This is all to the good as far as I'm
> concerned. Maybe it'll help us branch past the comedies to finally
> supporting low-budget and indie *dramas* by, for, and about Black
> people. That's one area we Blacks don't support as well as I'd 
like.
> Not surprisingly, plans are already in the works for a third Perry 
film
> at this time next year.
> 
> Tyler Perry's 'Reunion' Tops Box Office 
> By DAVID GERMAIN, AP Movie WriterSun Feb 26, 4:19 PM ET 
> 
> Tyler Perry fans reunited at theaters for another tale of mad black
> women. "Tyler Perry's Madea's Family Reunion," a comic drama in 
which
> writer-director Perry also stars in three roles, debuted as the
> weekend's No. 1 movie with $30.25 million, according to studio 
estimates
> Sunday.
> 
> It was a second gold mine for Lionsgate Films, which also released
> Perry's "Diary of a Mad Black Woman," the movie that opened as No. 
1
> with $21.9 million on the same weekend last year.
> 
> Lionsgate hopes to have a third Perry movie out over the same 
weekend
> next year, said Steve Rothenberg, the company's president of
> distribution.
> 
> "It's a time when we can really dominate the box office," 
Rothenberg
> said. "If we were out at Christmas, we'd be competing with the big
> holiday and Oscar films, but late February with Black History 
Month and
> less competition is a great time period for us."
> 
> This weekend's other new wide releases flopped. The Weinstein Co.
> animated tale "Doogal," a fairy-tale adventure with a voice cast 
that
> includes Whoopi Goldberg, Kylie Minogue and Jimmy Fallon, debuted 
at No.
> 8 with $3.6 million.
> 
> New Line's crime thriller "Running Scared," starring Paul Walker 
as a
> mobster scrambling to recover a gun used in the slaying of a cop, 
opened
> at No. 9 with $3.1 million.
> 
> Walker also stars in last weekend's No. 1 movie, Disney's dog tale
> "Eight Below," which slipped to second place with $15.7 
million. "Eight
> Below" grossed $45.1 million in 10 days.
> 
> Though "Madea's Family Reunion" opened more strongly than "Diary 
of a
> Mad Black Woman," the overall weekend box office declined. The top 
12
> movies took in $99.8 million, down 4.4 percent from the same 
weekend
> last year.
> 
> Based on Perry's stage play, "Madea's Family Reunion" depicts a 
variety
> of domestic crises as a clan prepares for a reunion. Among the
> characters Perry plays is the heavyset, pistol-packing Grandma 
Madea,
> whom he also played in "Diary of a Mad Black Woman."
> 
> The film was shot for just $6 million.
> 
> Perry's stories about empowerment of women set among Madea's 
family have
> a built-in following among black audiences familiar with his plays 
and
> video versions of the tales. Black women 35 and older made up 52 
percent
> of the movie's audience, according to Lionsgate.
> 
> "The themes Tyler Perry presents resonate very strongly with the 
black
> community," said Paul Dergarabedian, president of box-office 
tracker
> Exhibitor Relations. "It reminds me of 'My Big Fat Greek Wedding.' 
It
> has elements of comedy and drama and community that just definitely
> works."
> 
> The South African film "Tsotsi," a nominee for best foreign-
language
> film at the Academy Awards, opened strongly in limited release with
> $78,000 at six theaters, for a healthy $13,000 average.
> 
> By comparison, "Madea's Famil

[scifinoir2] Re: WHO is coming to SCIFI! :)

[Amanda]

--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "DJ VIBE" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "Keith Johnson"  
> > Is this Dr. Who a new show, or a rerun of something that come 
from 
> the
> > last year?
> 
> 
> 
> Dr. Who is a British series about an extremely long-lived race of 
> beings from a planet called Gallifrey.  They are known as "Time 
Lords" 
> because their people mastered time travel and spend their free 
time 
> going through time and righting wrongs.  Probably the best known 
Dr. 
> (The Gallifreyians regenerate upon death with slightly different 
> bodies and looks) was the one played by Tom Baker (curly-haired 
guy 
> with the scarf).  His TARDIS, the machine used to travel through 
time, 
> was stuck in the shape of a red telephone box.


I loved Tom Baker as Dr. Who.  Dude was insane.  I don't know if 
it's just Dr. Who, but I've noticed that a lot of the characters he 
playes has a bit of the insane off your hat feel abou them.

And Finally Scifi has gotten Who.  Thanks.  I love Stargate and BS, 
but damn I need something more than three shows.  

I've seen the Canadian science fiction channel and they have so many 
of our shows, so does the BBC etc., but when they come out with 
something scifi takes damn near years to get it.







 
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[scifinoir2] Black Folx Working on Films Everywhere

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http://www.bolletjesbluesdefilm.nl/





 
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[scifinoir2] Now that's Scifi.lol Lenny Henry Impersonating Beyonce

[Amanda]

www.lennyhenry.com/media/128k/Beyonce.wmv





 
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[scifinoir2] American Music and It's Influence

[Amanda]

http://www.tindlemusic.com/MDCDhoy.htm Traditional Hymns played on the 
Native American Flute.  Hearing this makes me wonder how much our 
music is different.  By that I mean you might hear bluegrass etc. and 
don't realize it might sound similar, but has different influences 
from that of the U. K. etc. Okay yes I listen to some bluegrass, 
Mandolin music etc. odd made up instruments, but then again I'm just 
weird.  I'm starting to notice that a lot of the sounds found in 
American music aren't in Scottish, Irish etc even though that's were 
some of the music originated.  Also the blues is different from that 
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[scifinoir2] Night Detective on BBC America

[Amanda]

Have to check this out it's about a black detective, and a fine one at 
that.  It's on Mystery Mondays.  I kept thinking the guys boss in the 
show looked familar than I remembered he was Uther in Mists of 
Avalon.  Oh also check out Conviction all though it's ending soon.  
Another thing is I thought Footballer's Wives would suck, but actually 
it's pretty damn good.  






 
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[scifinoir2] Anybody Remember This Scifi Series

[Amanda]

http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0096606/ blast from the past.

Also does anyone remember the name of the series about a family sent 
though a parallel world.  it had something to do with pyramids.





 
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[scifinoir2] Re: Anybody Remember This Scifi Series

[Amanda]

No I found it on Imdb.  It was called Otherworld

--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "Keith Johnson" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Whenever I've talked about the bad scifi of the '70s and '80s--that
> period between the old Star Trek and the Next Generation when 
there was
> a *lot* of scifi crap on TV--this is always one of the shows I've
> mentioned. "Hard Time on Planet Earth" was horrible, cheesy, 
unoriginal,
> stupid. I watched maybe two eps--assuming they made that many! It 
died a
> quick death. Wasn't the star the bad karate instructor from 
the "Karate
> Kid" movies? It was shows like that, and "Buck Rogers in the 25th
> Century", which i liked at first but which got stupider as time 
went on,
> that made me start to doubt TV scifi.  Remember that bad scifi 
show with
> Hulk Hogan? No? Lucky you!  I actually got to the point where I 
stopped
> watching many scifi premieres, either for fear they'd suck badly, 
or for
> fear that they'd be good and cancelled by stupid network execs. 
Thus, I
> actually didn't watch the premiere of the X-Files, Wolf, or Space: 
Above
> and Beyond. It was quality shows like that, along with TNG and B5, 
that
> slowly got me out of that fear and distrust, and start loving TV 
scifi
> again.
>  
> As for that family, sounds very familar. Are you talking about "The
> Fantastic Journey" from 1977? I believe there was a family sent 
through
> a portal in the Bermuda Triangle.  They met a guy who was I 
believe a
> human from the future, named Varian, who became their friend and 
guide
> of sorts.  Here's a plot summary: 
>  
> http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0075503/plotsummary
> A scientific expedition in the Atlantic Ocean becomes lost in the
> Bermuda Triangle and washes up on an uncharted island. They meet 
up with
> travelers from other times, planets and dimensions who have also 
become
> trapped, and together they "slide" through portals from one 
dimension to
> the next hoping to find the one that leads home.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
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> Behalf Of Amanda
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> Subject: [scifinoir2] Anybody Remember This Scifi Series
> 
> 
> http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0096606/ blast from the past.
> 
> Also does anyone remember the name of the series about a family 
sent 
> though a parallel world.  it had something to do with pyramids.
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[scifinoir2] Re: Anybody Remember This Scifi Series

[Amanda]

I remember The Fantastic Journey, but after I got older I got eps from 
that show, Buck Rogers, Battlestar Galactica mixed up.  I mean a lot 
of them resembled each other so much.lol  It's funny to see how much 
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[scifinoir2] Re: Anybody Remember This Scifi Series

[Amanda]

about a dude and a flying talking robot thingy.  I can't remember if 
it talked actually.  I was about 8 or 9 when this show came out.  
Keith may remember more.

--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Astromancer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> If you can bear it, Keith, tell me a little more about this Hard 
Time on Planet Earth...
> 
> Keith Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  Whenever I've talked 
about the bad scifi of the '70s and '80s--that
> period between the old Star Trek and the Next Generation when 
there was
> a *lot* of scifi crap on TV--this is always one of the shows I've
> mentioned. "Hard Time on Planet Earth" was horrible, cheesy, 
unoriginal,
> stupid. I watched maybe two eps--assuming they made that many! It 
died a
> quick death. Wasn't the star the bad karate instructor from 
the "Karate
> Kid" movies? It was shows like that, and "Buck Rogers in the 25th
> Century", which i liked at first but which got stupider as time 
went on,
> that made me start to doubt TV scifi.  Remember that bad scifi 
show with
> Hulk Hogan? No? Lucky you!  I actually got to the point where I 
stopped
> watching many scifi premieres, either for fear they'd suck badly, 
or for
> fear that they'd be good and cancelled by stupid network execs. 
Thus, I
> actually didn't watch the premiere of the X-Files, Wolf, or Space: 
Above
> and Beyond. It was quality shows like that, along with TNG and B5, 
that
> slowly got me out of that fear and distrust, and start loving TV 
scifi
> again.
> 
> As for that family, sounds very familar. Are you talking about "The
> Fantastic Journey" from 1977? I believe there was a family sent 
through
> a portal in the Bermuda Triangle.  They met a guy who was I 
believe a
> human from the future, named Varian, who became their friend and 
guide
> of sorts.  Here's a plot summary: 
> 
> http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0075503/plotsummary
> A scientific expedition in the Atlantic Ocean becomes lost in the
> Bermuda Triangle and washes up on an uncharted island. They meet 
up with
> travelers from other times, planets and dimensions who have also 
become
> trapped, and together they "slide" through portals from one 
dimension to
> the next hoping to find the one that leads home.
> 
> -Original Message-
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> Behalf Of Amanda
> Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2006 23:03
> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [scifinoir2] Anybody Remember This Scifi Series
> 
> 
> http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0096606/ blast from the past.
> 
> Also does anyone remember the name of the series about a family 
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[scifinoir2] Re: Anybody Remember This Scifi Series

[Amanda]

I remember My Life and Times.  That was a pretty cool concept.  Guy 
in future reflects on early 21th century.  Another show Space 
Rangers was hokey yes.  I mean the sets were like WTF, but when I 
see it again it wasn't that bad, they just really needed to work on 
the show.  With series like Babylon 5 and DS9 coming out at the same 
time you knew that show was going down.

--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Astromancer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Um...I NEVER watched Buck Rogers for the plot...when they tried to 
give it one, I stopped watching it...LOL
>   
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> Amanda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>   I remember The Fantastic Journey, but after I got older I got 
eps from 
> that show, Buck Rogers, Battlestar Galactica mixed up.  I mean a 
lot 
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[scifinoir2] Re: Anybody Remember This Scifi Series

[Amanda]

Well it came out in 85 and I was 5, so I don't know.  But the Scifi 
channel showed it way back when they had the short lived series 
thing going on.  From the look of the series it wasn't a cheapie 
saturday moring/aftertoon kind of show, but then again some of those 
shows weren't so cheap.  Hence the reasons why Space Academy and 
Jason of the Star Command went off.

Anybody remember Captain Power and the Soldiers of the Future

--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "Keith Johnson" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Was this a "real" series in primetime, or one of those shot-on-
video
> cheapies for the Saturday morning crowd, like "Land of the Lost"?
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Amanda
> Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 09:56
> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Anybody Remember This Scifi Series
> 
> 
> No I found it on Imdb.  It was called Otherworld
> 
> --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "Keith Johnson" 
>  wrote:
> >
> > Whenever I've talked about the bad scifi of the '70s and '80s--
that
> > period between the old Star Trek and the Next Generation when 
> there was
> > a *lot* of scifi crap on TV--this is always one of the shows I've
> > mentioned. "Hard Time on Planet Earth" was horrible, cheesy, 
> unoriginal,
> > stupid. I watched maybe two eps--assuming they made that many! 
It 
> died a
> > quick death. Wasn't the star the bad karate instructor from 
> the "Karate
> > Kid" movies? It was shows like that, and "Buck Rogers in the 25th
> > Century", which i liked at first but which got stupider as time 
> went on,
> > that made me start to doubt TV scifi.  Remember that bad scifi 
> show with
> > Hulk Hogan? No? Lucky you!  I actually got to the point where I 
> stopped
> > watching many scifi premieres, either for fear they'd suck 
badly, 
> or for
> > fear that they'd be good and cancelled by stupid network execs. 
> Thus, I
> > actually didn't watch the premiere of the X-Files, Wolf, or 
Space: 
> Above
> > and Beyond. It was quality shows like that, along with TNG and 
B5, 
> that
> > slowly got me out of that fear and distrust, and start loving TV 
> scifi
> > again.
> >  
> > As for that family, sounds very familar. Are you talking 
about "The
> > Fantastic Journey" from 1977? I believe there was a family sent 
> through
> > a portal in the Bermuda Triangle.  They met a guy who was I 
> believe a
> > human from the future, named Varian, who became their friend and 
> guide
> > of sorts.  Here's a plot summary: 
> >  
> > http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0075503/plotsummary
> > A scientific expedition in the Atlantic Ocean becomes lost in the
> > Bermuda Triangle and washes up on an uncharted island. They meet 
> up with
> > travelers from other times, planets and dimensions who have also 
> become
> > trapped, and together they "slide" through portals from one 
> dimension to
> > the next hoping to find the one that leads home.
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
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> > Behalf Of Amanda
> > Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2006 23:03
> > To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [scifinoir2] Anybody Remember This Scifi Series
> > 
> > 
> > http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0096606/ blast from the past.
> > 
> > Also does anyone remember the name of the series about a family 
> sent 
> > though a parallel world.  it had something to do with pyramids.
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[scifinoir2] Re: Anybody Remember This Scifi Series

[Amanda]

That's what got on my nerves with Dinotopia.  They were supposed to 
be on another world/dimension, but yet the people are wearing 
clothes that look like they come from Gap or the Limited.  Another 
thing is I like the new BS and all, but what I liked about the old 
one was that the culture was totally different from ours.  The new 
BS is way too Earth for me.  It was more fun when Apollo was still 
Apollo, and Starbuck was still Starbuck.  I liked the idea of 
ancient greek culture, but in a ship.



--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> I agree with you there! In the wake of the FX craze 
following "Star Wars", shows like "Buck Rogers in the 25th Century" 
and even the original "Battlestar Galactica" were more about the 
effects and space battles than the plot. At least Galactica and a 
*very* few others were sometimes intelligent.  Buck Rogers started 
out fair, with Buck having to come to terms with the war that had 
devastated Earth. Some decent action. But it went downhill--Jumped 
the Shark--when they all got on that starship and explored the 
galaxy. Then, in addition to that irritating Tweeky robot ("Bee-dee-
dee-dee-dee!"), there was that big, arrogant robot that was always 
sparring with Admiral Asimov, the crazy old scientist who 
inexplicably wore 20th century sweaters, and Hawk, the menacing bird-
man with feathers on his head.  Kinda lost me after that. Though I 
will say, the aerial battle between Buck and Hawk was awesome for 
the time...
> -Original Message-
> From: Keith Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 23:48
> To: 'Kieth Johnson'
> Subject: FW: [scifinoir2] Re: Anybody Remember This Scifi Series
> 
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> -Original Message-
> From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Astromancer
> Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 22:26
> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Anybody Remember This Scifi Series
> 
> 
> Um...I NEVER watched Buck Rogers for the plot...when they tried to 
give it one, I stopped watching it...LOL
>   
> 
> Amanda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>   I remember The Fantastic Journey, but after I got older I got 
eps from 
> that show, Buck Rogers, Battlestar Galactica mixed up.  I mean a 
lot 
> of them resembled each other so much.lol  It's funny to see how 
much 
> the networks have changed in copying each other.  
> 
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[scifinoir2] Re: Anybody Remember This Scifi Series

[Amanda]

Yes and by the way their babies tend to grow in days not months.  
--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "Keith Johnson" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Is "My Hero" a comedy? I've glimpsed it but never watched a whole
> episode.  
> 
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> Behalf Of Martin Pratt
> Sent: Friday, March 03, 2006 19:14
> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Anybody Remember This Scifi Series
> 
> 
> I really don't remember that. Lucky, maybe? But it does sounds  a 
bit
> like a show you might have seen one Saturday, Keith, as it's part 
of
> PBS' Saturday "BritCom" block, called "My Hero". Similar 
character, but
> he came to Earth to capture and exile a criminal from his home 
planet,
> where everyone's either a superhero or a supervillain. He fell in 
love
> with a human woman, and decided to stay here. About as smart as a
> gerbil, but has powers roughly akin to Superman.
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  It was a silly, throwaway unoriginal
> show about an alien sentenced to-you guessed it: hard time on 
Terra. He
> had superhuman abilities, but needed to develop his "humanity".
> Accompanied by an AI companion, he had lots of interesting 
adventures on
> Earth. It's not so much that the show was terrible (it was) as the 
plot
> reminds me of the '70s scifi shows that made me skittish of TV 
scif. You
> know: the Saturday morning and prime time stuff with that 
angle "alien
> with powers and technology far beyond ours must hide his true 
identity
> while adjusting to life on Earth, and, who despite his 
superiourity,
> learns that being 'human' is the greatest thing of all". Bleech!! 
You
> know they end up with some cookie-cutter babe as a maybe-
girlfriend, and
> have wacky adventures such as bar fights where their superhuman
> abilities come in handy. And oh yeah-there's always some 
justification
> for the alien to somehow run afoul of a redneck sheriff! 
>  
> Here are two summaries from   IMDB:  
>  
> Jesse, an alien is sent to Earth and finds himself in Los Angeles. 
His
> only companion is a floating, orb-shaped parole officer named 
Control.
> Doomed to stay on Earth until he can show compassion, Control 
helps him
> lead as normal a life as possible, but not knowing Earthly ways he 
often
> finds himself in trouble.Jesse is a hero in the army of a alien 
world
> but he was a little but to good and they became afraid of him so 
they
> send him to their prison/rehab/political dissident detention 
planet to
> regain his "humanity" our own Earth. He is Super strong, super 
fast and
> all but an imbecilic when it comes to being a person. 
>  
> -Original Message-
> From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
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> Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 21:31
> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Anybody Remember This Scifi Series
> If you can bear it, Keith, tell me a little more about this Hard 
Time on
> Planet Earth...
> 
> Keith Johnson wrote: Whenever I've talked about the bad scifi of 
the
> '70s and '80s--that
> period between the old Star Trek and the Next Generation when 
there was
> a *lot* of scifi crap on TV--this is always one of the shows I've
> mentioned. "Hard Time on Planet Earth" was horrible, cheesy, 
unoriginal,
> stupid. I watched maybe two eps--assuming they made that many! It 
died a
> quick death. Wasn't the star the bad karate instructor from 
the "Karate
> Kid" movies? It was shows like that, and "Buck Rogers in the 25th
> Century", which i liked at first but which got stupider as time 
went on,
> that made me start to doubt TV scifi. Remember that bad scifi show 
with
> Hulk Hogan? No? Lucky you! I actually got to the point where I 
stopped
> watching many scifi premieres, either for fear they'd suck badly, 
or for
> fear that they'd be good and cancelled by stupid network execs. 
Thus, I
> actually didn't watch the premiere of the X-Files, Wolf, or Space: 
Above
> and Beyond. It was quality shows like that, along with TNG and B5, 
that
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scifi
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[scifinoir2] Re: 'Charmed' a Casualty of WB-UPN Change

[Amanda]

The reruns will probably be up to whoever is running a particular 
affilate channel.  But yeah I know what you mean.  

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> No loss there. It wis mildly entertaining at the beginning, but 
that's
> in large part because Shannon Dougherty has a strong presence. She
> worked as the protective and strong older sister. Too bad the 
actress
> can't get along with anyone, 'cause the show wasn't as good once
> Dougherty's character was killed.  The dialog and writing and 
acting as
> so incredibly light-hearted and wispy like clouds, I can't sit 
through
> an episode anymore. Of course, I'm not a young white teen girl, 
which
> was probably a big part of their audience.
>  
> I'm curious as to what will happen with all the Black shows:
> Girlfriends, Eve, Half and Half, All of Us, Cuts. And of course, 
all the
> Jamie Foxx and Martin reruns on UPN late night.
> 
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> 'Charmed' a Casualty of WB-UPN Change
> 
> Fri Mar 3
> 
> 
> NEW YORK - The spell is broken. The witches on "Charmed" won't be 
making
> the move when the WB network combines forces with UPN to become 
the CW
> network in the fall.
> 
> A WB spokesman confirmed a TV Guide report on Friday that said the
> supernatural series, which stars Alyssa Milano, Rose McGowan and
> Holly Marie Combs, will end after eight seasons in May.
> 
> With "7th Heaven" having already announced its exit, it means that 
two
> WB
> long-running series won't move to the CW. The WB and UPN will both 
shut
> down in September.
> 
> The final episode of "Charmed" will air on May 21, TV Guide said.
> 
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the
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[scifinoir2] Re: Create a Superhero for new Reality Show

[Amanda]

They make money. Plus even if they loose in ratings they can still 
do well since they don't cost that much to make.  Reason the Brits 
and other countries have done so many of them.

--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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> Jeez, there's no freakin' end to these "reality" shows! Now you 
have to dress as your own superhero?! Wonder what kind of strange 
cosplayers and fanboys this will gather, eh? And how exactly do you 
design competitions that test your superhero's mettle, but which 
don't involve leaping over tall buildings, stopping runaway trains 
or robberies, or firing laser beams from your eyes? What, will you 
use your powers of Super Negotiation to buy a business?  Slay the 
ladies on date night with your Player-Player Hypno Eyes? Or wow 'em 
with your Level Five Design Mind and create the best new costume in 
your group?  
> Do you realize that between so-called reality shows, an infinite 
supply of CSI/Law and Order Clones, all the military/espionage shows 
(The Unit, E-Ring, etc), and contest/game shows, there's very little 
original programming on television? It's enough to make you read a 
book!
> 
> http://www.scifi.com/superhero/
> The SCI FI Channel, Nash Entertainment (Meet My Folks, For Love or 
Money, Who Wants to Marry My Dad?), and legendary comic-book creator 
Stan Lee (Spider-man, Hulk, The Fantastic Four, X-Men) will produce 
a six-episode, one-hour weekly competition reality series that will 
challenge a lucky few to create their very own superhero and reward 
the winner with the best reality competition prize yet: immortality!
> 
> All you'll need is an original idea for a superhero, a killer 
costume, and some real superhero mojo. The winner of this six-week 
competition will walk away with their superhero immortalized in a 
new comic book created by Stan Lee himself. It gets better: The 
winning character will also appear in an original SCI FI Channel 
movie!
> 
> In nationwide open casting calls, potential heroes will arrive in 
costume to prove their mettle — revealing the true nature of their 
superhuman abilities and invoking the noble credos by which they 
live. Make no mistake, you don't have to love comic books to be the 
superhero we're looking for. If you have a great imagination, love 
adventure, and have a hero hiding inside of you, we want you on this 
show. Students, teachers, firemen, soccer moms — you're all invited 
to try out to see if you've got what it takes. From thousands of 
hopefuls, Stan Lee will choose 11 lucky finalists to move into a 
secret lair and compete for the opportunity to become a real-life 
superhero.
> 
> Finalists will leave their former lives behind and live as their 
brainchild heroes 24/7, all under Stan Lee's watchful eye. Each 
week, our aspiring heroes will be challenged with competitions 
designed to test their true superhero abilities. Don't worry, no one 
will be leaping over tall buildings in a single bound. Our 
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compassion, and resourcefulness, all traits that every superhero 
must possess. In the end, only one aspiring superhero will have the 
inner strength and nobility to open the gates to comic-book 
immortality.
> 
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[scifinoir2] Re: BG season finale

[Amanda]

Yeah, but remember he said that the Cylons couldn't detect the 
planet or something like that.  Also they have colonized a new 
planet that they know nothing about.  As for Balter that election 
was fixed for a reason.lol  I mean damn Tigh going that far you know 
he know something was wrong with that man.

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horn dog
> > his way through the presidency.even if the colonist did make an 
effort to
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completely down. Tho
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boomer.More as
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[scifinoir2] Re: OT...did blacks do these things or not?

[Amanda]

http://inventors.about.com/library/weekly/aa070899.htm which debunks 
a black man Sampson as being the inventor of the cell phone

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> Japanese, etc?
> 
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> 
> 
> http://www33.brinkster.com/i/inventions/ 
> 
> i just visited this site someone sent a link to. it claims to 
debunk a 
> lot of black history facts about scientific inventions. anyone 
know 
> anything about this? i've never heard these things before. (the 
> debunking i mean)
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[scifinoir2] Re: OT...did blacks do these things or not?

[Amanda]

It's funny they don't mind to talk about inventions that white 
people this decade have done that were actually invented hundred or 
so years before.  Can anyone say a French man inventing an 
automobile in the 1700's.  Also everyone talks of Ford, but I also 
hear of cars before he came up with the factories.

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> Don't know, but why would they go to so much trouble to debunky 
good
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> Japanese, etc?
> 
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> Subject: [scifinoir2] OT...did blacks do these things or not?
> 
> 
> http://www33.brinkster.com/i/inventions/ 
> 
> i just visited this site someone sent a link to. it claims to 
debunk a 
> lot of black history facts about scientific inventions. anyone 
know 
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[scifinoir2] Crazy Pretty Good Short Film

[Amanda]

http://www.sundaymorningstripper.com/index2.html

It makes you think about how we have formulized the church.  How do we 
try to make ideas of whats christian etc. from a humans eyes.  Also 
how we don't really know what other people are going through and what 
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[scifinoir2] Re: BG season finale

[Amanda]

Beause I think 6 said that it was because of the explosian and he 
had this I'm a dumb ass written all over his face.lol

--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Martin Pratt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
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> Okay, that makes sense.
> 
> Laileana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  The Cylons were able to track and 
locate the planet from the nuclear explosion that Balthars 
girlfriend did mid episode.
>   lois
> 
> Martin Pratt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>   My thinking on how the Cylons managed to find the planet, 
despite the assurances that the place was undetectable goes one of 
two ways. Either there's another Cylon model they haven't found yet, 
or Baltar did something to help them find the colony. That makes 
more sense for me, because he's just N-V-T-S nuts enough to do 
something like that. He gave that Number Six he liberated from The 
Beast a nuke, after all.
> 
> Amanda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  Yeah, but remember he said that 
the Cylons couldn't detect the 
> planet or something like that.  Also they have colonized a new 
> planet that they know nothing about.  As for Balter that election 
> was fixed for a reason.lol  I mean damn Tigh going that far you 
know 
> he know something was wrong with that man.
> 
> > On 3/14/06, buky90  wrote:
> > > love your ewing comment.. I LOVED EVERYTHING BUT THAT LAST 30 
> MINUTES.. I'm
> > > gonna watch the rerun on Monday but my thoughts on Friday ...
> > > one year later my buns we didn't see six leave or baltar 
totally 
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> > > his way through the presidency.even if the colonist did make 
an 
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[scifinoir2] Re: Goofing around with Web searches on "Doctor Who"

[Amanda]

That's cool

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> This is funny. I went to the search site Rose used in Doctor Who 
to look
> up info on the doctor:  Search-Wise.Net. Turns out it's not a real
> search site at all, just a name that TV and film productions can 
use to
> simulate a real site. Search on anything and you get the same page,
> which has no real search info. Here's what they say about 
themselves:  
>  
>   http://www.search-wise.net/  This 
is NOT
> a real search website! Owned and operated by Compuhire (Eccentric
> Trading Company Ltd), this website has been set up for clearance
> purposes so that it can be used in film and TV productions when 
scripts
> require that a search engine is shown in vision. For more 
information
> about Compuhire please visit our web site at
>  www.compuhire.com, for information 
about
> other domain names that we operate in this way please go back to 
the
> main search engine page and submit a search for anything at 
allthe
> results displayed will always be the same and not related in any 
way to
> what you were searching for. 
>  
> But, what is also funny? I decided to mimic her searches on 
Google. Rose
> got 17,700,000 hits for the term "Doctor" in her fictitious site. 
I got
> over 400,000,000.
> When I searched for "Doctor Living Plastic", I got the same first 
result
> as Rose did: 
>  
>   
> http://hem.bredband.net/arenamontanus/Mage/plastic.html  
> The Living Plastic Creations of Dr. Rhenborgby Anders Sandberg. 
One of
> the most bizarre uses of Matter developed so far is the living 
plastic
> invented by Dr. Rhenborg. He has combined the normal properties of
> plastic with properties of living beings such as movement, healing 
and
> instincts, for use as servants and weapons. The plastic creations 
are
> brightly coloured, elastic beings able to stretch immensely before
> breaking.
>  
> Finally, I searched for "Doctor Blue Box", and also got the same 
initial
> result as Rose, complete with the exact same fuzzy picture of the
> Doctor! Apparently the site was created by a fan, and the TV 
production
> crew grabbed his data to insert into the fictitious Search-Wise 
site: 
>  
>  
> http://doctor-blue-box.winnfreenet.com/ Doctor Who is finally on 
the
> SciFi ch and it looks like the hard work I have done to create 
this site
> back in 2005 is paying off because we can now be found in google 
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[scifinoir2] Nimoy's Sun the TV Director

[Amanda]

Wow had no idea he had a son that was a tv director 
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0632382/





 
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[scifinoir2] Re: Nigerian's Into Horror Movies

[Amanda]

http://film.guardian.co.uk/features/featurepages/0,,1737425,00.html

sorry forgot the link.






 
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[scifinoir2] Nigerian's Into Horror Movies

[Amanda]

Nigeria now has the world's third largest film industry after 
Hollywood and Bollywood. Most of the movies are dirt cheap, straight-
to-video voodoo horror flicks - but millions of fans can't get enough 
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[scifinoir2] Re: "Dark Kingdom" Premieres tonight on Sci Fi

[Amanda]

Well being that the story is viking etc.  It is going to be Euro

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> Its just annoying that fantasy is so Euro.  No creativity or 
> imagination.
> 
> 
> --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, KeithBJohnson@ wrote:
> >
> > I might have to check this out. When first reading the plot, I 
> thought "boy does this sound cliched and familiar". But of course 
> nowadays any fantasy film would sound cliched if it's filled  with 
> magic swords/rings/lances/spears, common people with uncommon 
> destinies, quests, evil kings and wizards, etc. That's the 
archetype 
> of the fantasy novel. Also, I remembered the trailers 
saying "Before 
> Lord of the Rings or Harry Potter".  This is evidently based on 
much 
> older  tale(s) that provided much of the mythological grounding 
for 
> LOTR and others. I guess it's kinda like filming something with a 
> great flood, continent sinking, or a hero who dies and is 
> resurrected: the myths have been around so long, anything sounds 
> like a ripoff.
> > 
> > http://www.scifi.com/darkkingdom/about/
> > 
> > Europe, the Dark Ages. When the evil Twin Kings betray the King 
of 
> Xanten, the slain monarch's infant son, Prince Siegfried, narrowly 
> escapes with his life, spirited away by the kindly blacksmith 
Eyvind.
> > 
> > Eyvind raises Siegfried as a simple blacksmith and tells the boy 
> nothing of his true kingly heritage. But then the gods hurl a 
fiery 
> meteor to Earth, to propel Siegfried toward his true destiny. The 
> flash of impact leads him to the meteor, which is rich with the 
> metal of the gods — metal that he and Eyvind forge into his 
weapon, 
> a sword like no other on Earth.
> > 
> > Discovering the meteor also leads young Siegfried to the woman 
who 
> becomes his one true love: Brunhild, the Valkyrie warrior queen. 
> Duty drives them apart, but they both swear to reunite — and to 
> never love another.
> > 
> > Siegfried journeys to the kingdom of Burgund, where he earns the 
> respect of King Gunther and the romantic desire of Princess 
> Kriemhild. Gunther reveals to him that a powerful evil plagues his 
> land, an evil that he is unable to defeat. It falls to Siegfried, 
> armed only with his sword forged from the gods' metal, to slay the 
> wyrm Fafnir — and to claim the dragon's gold as his own.
> > 
> > With this treasure, however, comes the curse of its rightful 
> owners: the mystic Nibelungs. Siegfried's success also draws the 
ire 
> of King Gunther's adviser, the villainous Hagen, who covets the 
> Nibelungs' gold for himself.
> > 
> > To seize the treasure from Siegfried, Hagen uses black magic to 
> make the noble prince fall in love with Princess Kriemhild and 
> forget Brunhild, the love that the gods themselves had chosen for 
> him. But Hagen's curse takes on a malevolent life of its own, 
> spinning an expanding web of betrayal, deception and greed that 
> ensnares everyone — plunging a world in chaos, and a kingdom into 
> twilight.
> > 
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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[scifinoir2] Re: "Dark Kingdom" Premieres tonight on Sci Fi

[Amanda]

http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=Siegfried&fr=FP-tab-web-
t&toggle=1&cop=&ei=UTF-8

Their not lying about Siegfried except in the opera the dwarf raised 
him to kill the dragon so he could get the gold.

I have been looking for this story for a while.  I couldn't remember 
the name until his mother was yelling to him in the first part of 
the movie.


--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "Amanda" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Well being that the story is viking etc.  It is going to be Euro
> 
> --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "sancochojo"  wrote:
> >
> > Its just annoying that fantasy is so Euro.  No creativity or 
> > imagination.
> > 
> > 
> > --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, KeithBJohnson@ wrote:
> > >
> > > I might have to check this out. When first reading the plot, I 
> > thought "boy does this sound cliched and familiar". But of 
course 
> > nowadays any fantasy film would sound cliched if it's filled  
with 
> > magic swords/rings/lances/spears, common people with uncommon 
> > destinies, quests, evil kings and wizards, etc. That's the 
> archetype 
> > of the fantasy novel. Also, I remembered the trailers 
> saying "Before 
> > Lord of the Rings or Harry Potter".  This is evidently based on 
> much 
> > older  tale(s) that provided much of the mythological grounding 
> for 
> > LOTR and others. I guess it's kinda like filming something with 
a 
> > great flood, continent sinking, or a hero who dies and is 
> > resurrected: the myths have been around so long, anything sounds 
> > like a ripoff.
> > > 
> > > http://www.scifi.com/darkkingdom/about/
> > > 
> > > Europe, the Dark Ages. When the evil Twin Kings betray the 
King 
> of 
> > Xanten, the slain monarch's infant son, Prince Siegfried, 
narrowly 
> > escapes with his life, spirited away by the kindly blacksmith 
> Eyvind.
> > > 
> > > Eyvind raises Siegfried as a simple blacksmith and tells the 
boy 
> > nothing of his true kingly heritage. But then the gods hurl a 
> fiery 
> > meteor to Earth, to propel Siegfried toward his true destiny. 
The 
> > flash of impact leads him to the meteor, which is rich with the 
> > metal of the gods — metal that he and Eyvind forge into his 
> weapon, 
> > a sword like no other on Earth.
> > > 
> > > Discovering the meteor also leads young Siegfried to the woman 
> who 
> > becomes his one true love: Brunhild, the Valkyrie warrior queen. 
> > Duty drives them apart, but they both swear to reunite — and to 
> > never love another.
> > > 
> > > Siegfried journeys to the kingdom of Burgund, where he earns 
the 
> > respect of King Gunther and the romantic desire of Princess 
> > Kriemhild. Gunther reveals to him that a powerful evil plagues 
his 
> > land, an evil that he is unable to defeat. It falls to 
Siegfried, 
> > armed only with his sword forged from the gods' metal, to slay 
the 
> > wyrm Fafnir — and to claim the dragon's gold as his own.
> > > 
> > > With this treasure, however, comes the curse of its rightful 
> > owners: the mystic Nibelungs. Siegfried's success also draws the 
> ire 
> > of King Gunther's adviser, the villainous Hagen, who covets the 
> > Nibelungs' gold for himself.
> > > 
> > > To seize the treasure from Siegfried, Hagen uses black magic 
to 
> > make the noble prince fall in love with Princess Kriemhild and 
> > forget Brunhild, the love that the gods themselves had chosen 
for 
> > him. But Hagen's curse takes on a malevolent life of its own, 
> > spinning an expanding web of betrayal, deception and greed that 
> > ensnares everyone — plunging a world in chaos, and a kingdom 
into 
> > twilight.
> > > 
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> >
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[scifinoir2] Japanese Film Casshern

[Amanda]

Looks cool
http://lime.gofishpictures.com/casshern/
http://www.apple.com/jp/quicktime/trailers/casshern_large.html

Made for around $6mill US






 
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[scifinoir2] Re: My Online Reading Group Is Pretentious and Boring

[Amanda]

And this is the biggest of all.  Just mention the idea of race and 
Dune or LTR and all hell breaks loose.  One thing I've learned from 
many groups like this is that they don't want to talk about things 
that are uncomfortable, hard issues etc.  Not just race, but 
anything that is serious.

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computer... On Yahoo's IM, they have a great chatroom setup I use to 
talk or type in real time to several of my friends and we have a 
blast...it the same as having a conference call...but infinitely 
cheaper!
> 
> Martin Pratt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  I'm game. And my 
county's library system usually has most of the good sci-fi books, 
both new and older.
> 
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that is available at the library or
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well.
> I just want to read some of the best books out there and talk with
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> 
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[scifinoir2] Re: Hand-painted African Movie Posters

[Amanda]

That got me really interested in checking out if anyone else was doing 
this http://www.designboom.com/contemporary/handpainted.html  from 
Russia

--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "brent wodehouse" 
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> http://laboiteaimages.hautetfort.com/archive/2005/12/13/6-serpents-7-
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[scifinoir2] Re: Japanese Film Casshern

[Amanda]

There was a movie Dream of a Warrior that all though was not good 
had some pretty cool effects.

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> It's a damn good movie. I saw it last year on a DVD a friend got 
from
> Asia. Some of the visuals are stunning, every bit as impressive as 
some
> of the better anime.  I a haven't seen a lot of Asian
> scifi/post-apocalyptic films, but this is probably one of the 
better
> ones.Good fighting scenes, good special effects too. There's an
> interesting twist in the film that makes the ending cool.  To 
relate to
> something familar to Westerners, some of the scenes remind me of 
Bakshai
> at his best, such as in his Lord of the Rings film or "Wizards".  
And
> yeah, the planes and other military vehicles are cool.  Of course, 
being
> an Asian film, it's very sad too, which is one reason I don't 
watch a
> lot of anime and Asian movies.  Sometimes the sadness overwhelms 
me,
> which is a shame, 'cause few people can match them in terms of 
visual
> and musical power.  You can sit down and watch anime or an Asian 
film,
> not understand a single word, yet be wowed by the visuals and 
fights,
> and moved to tears by the heroes' fate and the sad music. 
>  
> Worth watching, and let me know what you think.
>  
>  
>  -Original Message-
> From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
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> Behalf Of Martin Pratt
> Sent: Friday, March 31, 2006 17:32
> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Japanese Film Casshern
> 
> 
> 
> Does look nice. I like the planes. (ex-pilot in me creeping out)
> 
> Amanda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  Looks cool
> http://lime.gofishpictures.com/casshern/
> http://www.apple.com/jp/quicktime/trailers/casshern_large.html
> 
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[scifinoir2] Re: Hand-painted African Movie Posters

[Amanda]

also found some from india and pakistan
http://www.thehotspotonline.com/eyecandy/horror/DesiHorror2.htm

--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "Amanda" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> That got me really interested in checking out if anyone else was 
doing 
> this http://www.designboom.com/contemporary/handpainted.html  from 
> Russia
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> --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "brent wodehouse" 
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[scifinoir2] Dr. Who Flight of the Daleks

[Amanda]

http://www.vortx-productions.co.uk/FOTDindex.html  Fan Film and a 
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[scifinoir2] Re: Japanese Film Casshern

[Amanda]

>From what I gather at IMDB it was made for around 6mill US.  If this 
is true, then black folx could do some cool action/scifi/fantasy on 
a low bud.  I read in an article where black filmmakers were upset 
about getting only 1-15mill if the film is about black folx and how 
they would like to have bigger budgets.  From what I've seen from 
Japanese, HK, Bollywood etc. (and yes I know these are different 
countries, economics etc.)I think we should focus on making great 
movies for the low buck etc.

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> It's a damn good movie. I saw it last year on a DVD a friend got 
from
> Asia. Some of the visuals are stunning, every bit as impressive as 
some
> of the better anime.  I a haven't seen a lot of Asian
> scifi/post-apocalyptic films, but this is probably one of the 
better
> ones.Good fighting scenes, good special effects too. There's an
> interesting twist in the film that makes the ending cool.  To 
relate to
> something familar to Westerners, some of the scenes remind me of 
Bakshai
> at his best, such as in his Lord of the Rings film or "Wizards".  
And
> yeah, the planes and other military vehicles are cool.  Of course, 
being
> an Asian film, it's very sad too, which is one reason I don't 
watch a
> lot of anime and Asian movies.  Sometimes the sadness overwhelms 
me,
> which is a shame, 'cause few people can match them in terms of 
visual
> and musical power.  You can sit down and watch anime or an Asian 
film,
> not understand a single word, yet be wowed by the visuals and 
fights,
> and moved to tears by the heroes' fate and the sad music. 
>  
> Worth watching, and let me know what you think.
>  
>  
>  -Original Message-
> From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
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> Behalf Of Martin Pratt
> Sent: Friday, March 31, 2006 17:32
> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Japanese Film Casshern
> 
> 
> 
> Does look nice. I like the planes. (ex-pilot in me creeping out)
> 
> Amanda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  Looks cool
> http://lime.gofishpictures.com/casshern/
> http://www.apple.com/jp/quicktime/trailers/casshern_large.html
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[scifinoir2] Illegal Lottery

[Amanda]

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[scifinoir2] Re: Trailer: Hannibal vs Rome movie (Alexander Siddiq of Deep Space 9)

[Amanda]

But you know I've always wondered about Dougray Scott especially 
after watching Arabian Nights.  He might be white, but he ain't that 
light.lol  

Same goes for Troy if the Trojans are supposed to the be Turkish 
then the turks I saw in those docus they were showing when Troy was 
being released and the Greeks as well should be who we saw in the 
movies not Brad Pit. 

A co-worker and I were talking about this very thing when we were 
talking about how all the Romans, Greeks, even the French in movies 
are always some British guy or chick.  We were like yes they 
mysteriously have british accents in Rome.lol Oh and let's not 
forget Vikings.  How the hell is a Viking going to have a british 
accent pre them going to Britian.  I can see a movie made with 
people with british accents portraying native Americans.  I wouldn't 
put it past them.  Another note.  What did mess me up on Arabian 
Nights was all the british accents going on as well, but you know 
some of the actors after I saw that mini series I have sense 
wondered about their ethnicity.  

Well Aladin being Chinese wasn't a big thing for me, because I read 
the tale of Aladin in a book of the Arabin Nights and he was a young 
Chinese prince.  

Big case in Point the Thief of Baghdad.  I can barely watch this 
movie.  Yes it's beautiful, but when you grow up and learn about 
actual Indians and what they really look like it's hard to watch 
this movie and take it seriously that these people are 
arabian/indian etc.  When you watch Bollywood movies and other 
movies of Indian cinema and then watch Thief of Baghdad you are like 
what the hell is this.lol

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> Not only that, but they've remade "The Ten Commandments" as a 
flick with
> Daniel "James Bond" Craig as Moses. I think it airs tonight. 
Sacrilege!
> I mean, heck, sure the commercials show the background actors to at
> least *look* darker skinned in this one. (Never could get over all 
the
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[scifinoir2] Scifi Short The Odd Squad

[Amanda]

http://frenchquarterfeatures.com/movies/ODDSquadWEB.mov








  
  
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[scifinoir2] Jacked Up Parody of Angel

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http://www.cautionzero.net/cherub/





  




  
  
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[scifinoir2] NASA named Ramayana bridge as Adams Bridge

[Amanda]

http://www.mithilaonline.com/
http://www.rootsweb.com/~lkawgw/adamsbridge.html
http://www.mithilaonline.com/nasa.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ramayana

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[scifinoir2] Can Anyone Tell Me of the Guy Who Came up With This

[Amanda]

proved that you don't have to know a subject to teach it?  All I 
remember reading is that to prove his point he taught kids Finnish or 
some language even though he didn't know it, from reading books etc.






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[scifinoir2] Really is Real Life Horror: It's Like Something Out of a Horror Movie!!!!!

[Amanda]

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/13192080/?GT1=8211





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[scifinoir2] The American Power Rangers Suckkkkksss

[Amanda]

I know I know then why watch it.  I guess because I've been watching it 
since I was a kid and there were some season's that weren't that bad.  
I am now watching the Japanese version of SPD and Mystic Force and it's 
like damn this is so good.  They actually take the show seriously.  
It's funny because with little money they make these series way better 
than the ones made for the US.






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[scifinoir2] Re: Can Anyone Tell Me of the Guy Who Came up With This

[Amanda]

That's one of the problems that's being talked about teachers in pre 
to elementary schools.  Teacher's who just studied to get a degree in 
education, but didn't for a subject etc.  

I think he used books etc.  I've read stories written during the 18th 
and 19th even the 20th century where you had people being taught a 
language from books.  Now imagine what those people would have 
sounded liked speaking French or Spanish they learned form a book 
koooh moah taahl A vooo.lol
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> No, but I'd love to see his logic path.
> 
> Amanda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  proved that you don't 
have to know a subject to teach it? All I 
> remember reading is that to prove his point he taught kids Finnish 
or 
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[scifinoir2] Mistaken Racial Indentity

[Amanda]

http://www.colorq.org/MeltingPot/together.htm  makes you think.






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[scifinoir2] Atlantis and Rama (what do you think)

[Amanda]

I'm a sucker for these types of stories.  Did Humans have technology 
that we had before?  Could a war have happened that destroyed peoples 
way of life making them have to start over?  Or was it natural 
disasters. Natural nuclear reactors have been found.  Or could it 
have been a massive heat ray?  Or other devices that were just things 
that have regular uses that and made into weapons.  Anyway just fun 
theories.

http://forums.atlantisrising.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/000945.html
http://television.press-world.com/v/2045/nuclear-warfare-in-the-
ancient-times-concepts-for-a-film-script.html ( would make a cool 
movie if it was made.  Maybe not made by Hollywood though, they would 
turn it into some mindless summer eye candy blockbuster.)
http://forums.atlantisrising.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/000940.html (now 
some as in the other are a little off, but the last one about the 
heat ray theory is pretty cool.)





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[scifinoir2] Re: Ten most harmful books of the 19th and 20th century

[Amanda]

Didn't see Mein Kampf 2.  Guess because it's only recently come out.

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> Ten most harmful books of the 19th and 20th century.  (I sincerely  
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> _http://www.humaneventsonline.com/article.php?id=7591_ 
> (http://www.humaneventsonline.com/article.php?id=7591) ,
> 
> For the life of me I don't know why Silent Spring should be 
considered one  
> of the most harmful books. Conservatism is one thing but really! I 
haven't read 
>  Ralph Nader's book either. I'm a Christian but I suspect some of 
these books 
> are  on this list because American business is challenged.  
> 
>  
> 
> 
> Carole McDonnell
> www.geocities.com/scifiwritir/OreoBlues.html
> So Long Been Dreaming - Arsenal Pulp Press.  www.arsenalpulp.com
> Fantastic Visions III - Fantasist Enterprises.  www.fantasistent.com
> Easy Way to Write Bible Studies --  
easywaytowrite.com/bible_studies.html
> Then an angel came along - Pleasant  Word Books
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[scifinoir2] Re: Ten most harmful books of the 19th and 20th century

[Amanda]

The second book Hitler wrote.  But I'm not sure if it's published 
yet.  Just say if the dude had been Successful in the war he would 
have come after us and we wouldn't have made it.

--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Bosco Bosco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> B
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> > Didn't see Mein Kampf 2.  Guess because it's only recently come
> > out.
> 
> 
> I got friends who are in prison and Friends who are dead.
> I'm gonna tell ya something that I've often said.
> 
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> That's just the way it's supposed to be.
> And I can't help but wonder,
> Don't ya know it coulda been me.
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[scifinoir2] Re: Skywalker As The Joker? It's No Joke

[Amanda]

I can believe it.  He played the psycho evil clown ( I think it was a 
clown) or something in an episode of the Flash.

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> Skywalker As The Joker? It's No Joke
> http://www.imdb.com/news/wenn/2005-06-15/
> Original Star Wars star Mark Hamill has joined the shortlist of 
favorites to
> play The Joker in the Batman Begins sequel. The actor, who played 
Luke
> Skywalker in Star Wars, The Empire Strikes Back and Return Of The 
Jedi, has
> become a fan favorite to play Batman's colorful foe. He joins 
Crispin Glover
> and Aussie actor Lachy Hulme on the three-strong internet 
shortlist. Hamill
> became an obvious choice for some Batman fans after voicing The 
Joker for
> the Batman cartoon series. A spokesman for top Batman website
> Darkhorizons.Com points out, "The net basically picked Christian 
Bale to
> play Batman, so who knows." Batman Begins opens across America and 
Europe
> this week.
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[scifinoir2] Re: Skywalker As The Joker? It's No Joke

[Amanda]

The only issue they may have is his physical appearance, but I see 
nothing wrong with that either.

Yeah cause like Jack Nickleson was just so hot when he played the 
Joker in the first Batman.lol





 
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[scifinoir2] Re: Say Researchers: 'Blade II' is a Bad Film

[Amanda]

So that means film such as The Legend of 1900 are bad films.  Or just 
that people like to watch bland blockbusters.

--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "Brent Wodehouse" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> http://www.nature.com/news/2005/050613/full/050613-1.html
> 
> Published online: 14 June 2005
> 
> Modellers measure 'word of mouth' for films
> 
> Mark Peplow
> 
> Mathematics calculates quality of sleeper hits and movie bombs.
> 
> 
> It's official, says one group of researchers: Blade II is a bad 
film.
> Their study turns patterns of attendance into a single number that 
claims
> to grade a film's quality1.
> 
> The number attempts to gauge of how good the 'word of mouth' was 
around a
> given film, based on the behaviour of the harshest critics of all, 
the
> paying public.
> 
> César Hidalgo, now a graduate student in physics at the University 
of
> Notre Dame, Indiana, and his colleagues, decided to study the 'word 
of
> mouth' effect in the film world simply because reviews often have a 
huge
> impact on audience numbers and there are copious data on ticket 
sales.
> 
> Hidalgo, along with Carlos Rodriguez-Sickert, an economist at the
> Pontifical Catholic University of Chile, Santiago, and Alejandra 
Castro of
> the University of Michigan, Ann Arbor, constructed a mathematical 
equation
> that approximates box-office takings in the weeks after release. 
They
> assume that revenue relies on three major factors: the size of the
> possible audience, the initial desire of audience members to see 
the film
> (which is often dictated by the amount spent on marketing and 
publicity),
> and audience response to the film.
> 
> The team then plugged arbitrary numbers into their simple equation 
to
> create dozens of graphs describing weekly box-office results for a 
film
> during its cinema lifetime. If the marketing weighed in heavily, for
> example, but audience reviews were poor, the resulting graph would 
peak in
> the first week and then plummet. If the reviews were good, however, 
the
> graph would keep climbing.
> 
> When they compared their graphs with actual box-office data 
(available on
> the Internet Movie Database) for 44 recent films, they found good 
matches
> for films ranging from huge blockbusters to budget flicks. "It was a
> surprise that the model behaved nicely for all different 
behaviours, and
> was not just a coincidence for some of them," says Hidalgo.
> 
> 
> Staying power
> 
> The team says that the review coefficient (the word-of-mouth 
component of
> their equation) is a rough indicator of the film's quality.
> 
> The comedy Kissing Jessica Stein, for example, can be modelled 
using a
> large, positive review coefficient. It started with initially poor
> attendance, but increased its box-office take over the following 
five
> weeks owing to good reports from the audience. In contrast, Blade 
II looks
> like a classic bomb: a large negative review coefficient matches 
its quick
> dive in takings.
> 
> "It's a fun paper," says Gerben Bakker, an economic historian who 
studies
> Hollywood marketing at the University of Essex, UK. "But it's quite 
a
> basic model. They don't consider a lot of the complications."
> 
> Bakker says that the model could be improved by factoring in the 
effect of
> a film's availability on its box-office take, for example. Many 
people who
> would like to see a particular low-budget film are unable to 
because it is
> not playing in a local cinema, he says.
> 
> 
> Show me the money
> 
> Good quality films don't always win financially, even if they do 
have more
> staying power. A bigger initial interest in Blade II meant that its
> overall box-office take was more than ten times greater than that of
> Kissing Jessica Stein, which took just US$7 million in the United 
States.
> 
> Big blockbusters are often simultaneously distributed to more than 
3,000
> cinemas in the United States, explains John Sedgwick, a media 
economist at
> London Metropolitan University, UK. So a film generally does enough
> business in its first two weeks to recoup its costs, which is the 
first
> priority of the studio.
> 
> However, about 70% of film revenue now comes from outside the box 
office,
> he adds. The rise in home video and DVD sales, along with toys and 
other
> products, means that pleasing the audience is ever more important 
for a
> film's overall financial success.
> 
> Hidalgo adds that thinking of films this way should help studios to 
decide
> whether to commission a sequel. Even high-grossing films can be 
deeply
> unpopular with the audience, which dooms their cinematic offspring, 
he
> says.
> 
> If only they'd thought of that before commissioning the third in 
the Blade
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[scifinoir2] Re: I cried...

[Amanda]

The problem is Hollywood is making these films.  And not just that, 
they are making films to target a mass audience.  Not always a good 
way to make a film good.  No offense to audiences, but when you make 
films like that you end up making a bland movie.  You try not to 
offend people, have people feeling left out etc.  

--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Astromancer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have that to say about the entire movie...You have to read the 
books...I highly recommend the unabridged audiobooks because they're 
read by Adams himself...
> 
> Keith Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:I read a review 
of "Hitchhiker's"  in the scifi mag "Dreamwatch"--which
> I've hawked several times and highly recommend, by the way. The mag
> being British, they were especially sensitive to the movie 
treatment.
> They were very disappointed too.  I never read Adams' books, and 
don't
> plan to see the movie, but I did note that Dreamwatch took special 
aim
> at Mos Def, whose performance they described as "mumbling".  Do you
> agree with that assessment of Def?
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
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> Behalf Of Wayne
> Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2005 22:02
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> Subject: [scifinoir2] I cried...
> 
> 
> I just saw Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy and I cried...sort of. 
> They completely destroyed Adams' storytelling...I can't talk about 
it 
> any more...
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[scifinoir2] What are Good Fantasy Books for Black Youth to Read

[Amanda]

I'm trying to find fantasy books that black youth could read.  They 
don't have to be by or about African Americans, but I would like to 
find those as well.  Also what about African etc?





 
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[scifinoir2] Re: What are Good Fantasy Books for Black Youth to Read

[Amanda]

First group around under 10 secton 10-14 and other group 15-up.  I'm 
looking for something to get them interested in fantasy as well as 
scifi.  I'm also looking for some good African epics.  I know of 
Sundiata, Askia Muhammed, Mwindo, Gassire's Lute etc., but I found 
this book one day that had others I'd never heard of, I didn't buy 
the book and later went back to buy it and it was gone.  For the life 
of me I can't remember the name.  As well as myths and folktales etc.

--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "Keith Johnson" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> What age range? Do you have issues with magic, sorcery, demons, 
etc? Do
> the books need to have a moral?  Specifically fantasy here, not hard
> scifi?
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
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> Behalf Of Amanda
> Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 19:49
> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [scifinoir2] What are Good Fantasy Books for Black Youth to
> Read
> 
> 
> I'm trying to find fantasy books that black youth could read.  They 
> don't have to be by or about African Americans, but I would like to 
> find those as well.  Also what about African etc?
> 
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[scifinoir2] Not So Grand Cliche List

[Amanda]

You remember the Science Fiction Cliche List 

Well here is a new list of cliches

http://amethyst-angel.com/cliche.html





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[scifinoir2] Nollywood Convention

[Amanda]

http://www.nollywoodconventionusa.com/home.html  John Singleton will 
be the Guest of Honor.  I remember something about Danny Glover 
working to help the African Film Industry.  I don't know if it was 
Nollywood or just the continent in hole.




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[scifinoir2] Re: Nollywood Convention

[Amanda]

Here is an article about it 
http://www.tailslate.net/articles/articles.asp?ID=66

--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "g123curious" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
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> Thanks for posting this! Very interesting. I had no idea: "In recent 
> years the Nigerian Film industry has grown rapidly to become the
> third largest film producing industry in the world after the 
renowned 
> Hollywood of the United States and the prolific Bollywood of India."
> 
> George
> Captain
> The USS Ronald E. McNair (Boston)
> 
> --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "Amanda" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> > http://www.nollywoodconventionusa.com/home.html  John Singleton
> will 
> > be the Guest of Honor.  I remember something about Danny Glover 
> > working to help the African Film Industry.  I don't know if it was 
> > Nollywood or just the continent in hole.





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[scifinoir2] Africast Launches America's First Pan-African Movie Channel

[Amanda]

http://sev.prnewswire.com/entertainment/20050809/NYTU00809082005-
1.html

NEW YORK, Aug. 9 /PRNewswire/ -- Africast Television Network has 
launched America's first Pan-African movie channel offering popular 
African movies, dramas and documentaries as subscription video on 
demand at its Website, http://www.africast.tv/. Internet Marketing 
Consortium, an international marketing company, is investing $1.5 
million in Africast on marketing and promotions aimed at U.S. and 
worldwide audiences. Several award-winning films featured on 
Africast's online movie channel, include:

-- The Campus Queen, premiering on Africast, exclusively in the 
U.S., is celebrated Nigerian filmmaker Tunde Kelani's campus caper 
of music and rival student organizations, explored earlier in Spike 
Lee's School Daze. "The African film industry has come a long way," 
says Kelani. "I'm inspired by the growing market for African films 
and distribution channels like Africast TV, a leading outlet for 
quality movies depicting authentic African life. I look forward to 
the premiere of The Campus Queen and presenting future works on 
Africast."

-- La Petite Vendeuse de Soleil (The Little Girl Who Sold the Sun), 
rated one of the year's 10 Best Films in 2000 by the Village Voice, 
is about a determined crippled girl reinventing herself as Senegal's 
first female newspaper vendor.

-- Dole (Money) offers a perspective on the crisis facing today's 
youth. With family and social structures crumbling, they 
increasingly rely on each other and pop culture, revealing that, 
whether in Gabon or elsewhere, youthful disaffection is remarkably 
similar.

-- Sango Malo (The Village Teacher), Brazilian educator Paolo 
Freire's intimate portrait of social and economic changes in an 
African village in Cameroon that contrasts two views of education: 
traditional, "Eurocentric" curriculum that produces docile colonial 
administrators, versus the practical skills needed to build self-
reliant rural communities.

Previews, programming and subscription details are at 
http://www.africast.tv/. For $9.95 per month, subscribers can access 
50 hours of film and drama programming which is refreshed by 10 
additional hours of new programming each month. Africast is 
negotiating with Comcast and other cable companies to expand its 
service to selected cities.

"Culturally and politically, Africa is poised to undergo more 
changes and wield more influence in the world than ever before," 
says John Sarpong, Africast Chairman and CEO. "However, much of what 
is shown about Africa is a view from outside, seen through eyes that 
are not African and, in some cases, not Africa friendly. Only if 
Africans can present their stories to the world will Africa gain 
renewed respect and realize her promising future. Our mission is to 
provide a global voice for Africans to tell their own stories."

Africast TV provides general audiences with an entertaining and 
informative window into the richness and promise of Africa and fills 
a void in the global African market by providing intelligent and 
appealing entertainment to a community that is aware of its heritage 
and hungry for quality programming.

Contact:
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[scifinoir2] Re: Fats Domino missing

[Amanda]

I think a family member saw him being rescued on tv. 




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[scifinoir2] Good But Long Bollywood Movie on TCM

[Amanda]

"Dilwale Dulhania Le Jayenge  Will be on TCM at 1:am/2:am or other 
depending on where you are.  




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[scifinoir2] Re: Good But Long Bollywood Movie on TCM

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--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "Brent Wodehouse" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> "Amanda" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> >"Dilwale Dulhania Le Jayenge  Will be on TCM at 1:am/2:am or other 
> >depending on where you are.
> 
> '... But Long' fairly describes the bulk of the genre, doesn't it?
> 
> 
> Brent

You got that right.lol  I don't mind though just a bit of getting used 
to.  I don't know if I would call it a genre though.  I've been 
waiting to see this film again for months so I can record it.  Have 
Bollywood movies on Movies on Demand, but I can't buy all those 
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[scifinoir2] Who Wants to Create a Black Film Industry

[Amanda]

Who Wants to Create a Black Film Industry?  If you could what would 
you do?  What movies etc.?  How would you get funding etc?




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[scifinoir2] Media Image of Black and White People

[Amanda]

http://www.boingboing.net/2005/08/30/black_people_loot_wh.html
and notice they made them take picture of the white people off.  Why 
is that?




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[scifinoir2] Pressure weakens Detroit's plan for Black business district

[Amanda]

Found this article

http://www.assatashakur.org/forums/upload/showpost.php?
p=5417&postcount=1

It's funny how they didn't mind launching Mexicantown, Greektown etc. 
but not African Town.  This country is so racists and doesn't even 
want to admit it.

There's Also

http://www.metrotimes.com/editorial/story.asp?id=5997




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[scifinoir2] Re: Who Wants to Create a Black Film Industry

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That would be a cool idea.  I'm writing up an idea that I've had for 
a while.  It's been changing etc.  I've been gathering ideas from 
other film industries as well as other industries in general.  

Here is some info on starting a film festival

http://www.slamdance.com/news/520/howtostart.html
http://koreanfilm.org/startfest.html
http://www.documentaryfilms.net/howtostartyourownfilmfestival.htm
http://filmdependent.com/festbook/intro.html
http://www.sfjff.org/guide/producing2.html




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> A model I have proposed in writing to the Tourism
> Board here [I'm in the Caribbean] is a Film Festival. 
> FF usually have themes the model I proposed was for a
> Caribbean / Black Film Festival.
> 
> This way Black Film makers would actually have a forum
> to present in.  From there the distributers get to see
> and so the ripple effet begins.
> 
> The response?  Not even a note to say we have placed
> you on file.  The result? ZERO!
> 
> If I had the money I'd do it myself! Grr
> 
> RS=D
> 
> --- Amanda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > Who Wants to Create a Black Film Industry?  If you
> > could what would 
> > you do?  What movies etc.?  How would you get
> > funding etc?
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
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[scifinoir2] Re: Who Wants to Create a Black Film Industry

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my bad If forgot I've already posted it.





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[scifinoir2] Re: Who Wants to Create a Black Film Industry

[Amanda]

here's a website that sells books on creating festivals, but those 
books will cost you some major green.

http://www.filmdependent.com/festbook/start.html

--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "Amanda" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> That would be a cool idea.  I'm writing up an idea that I've had 
for 
> a while.  It's been changing etc.  I've been gathering ideas from 
> other film industries as well as other industries in general.  
> 
> Here is some info on starting a film festival
> 
> http://www.slamdance.com/news/520/howtostart.html
> http://koreanfilm.org/startfest.html
> http://www.documentaryfilms.net/howtostartyourownfilmfestival.htm
> http://filmdependent.com/festbook/intro.html
> http://www.sfjff.org/guide/producing2.html
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Rising Sun <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > A model I have proposed in writing to the Tourism
> > Board here [I'm in the Caribbean] is a Film Festival. 
> > FF usually have themes the model I proposed was for a
> > Caribbean / Black Film Festival.
> > 
> > This way Black Film makers would actually have a forum
> > to present in.  From there the distributers get to see
> > and so the ripple effet begins.
> > 
> > The response?  Not even a note to say we have placed
> > you on file.  The result? ZERO!
> > 
> > If I had the money I'd do it myself! Grr
> > 
> > RS=D
> > 
> > --- Amanda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> > > Who Wants to Create a Black Film Industry?  If you
> > > could what would 
> > > you do?  What movies etc.?  How would you get
> > > funding etc?
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > 
> > 
> > "Anyone who would give up a little liberty for more security 
> deserves neither."  Ben Franklin...My Fav links: 
> http://www.geocities.com/jagrslc/tv.show.swop.list.htm [My 
complete 
> TV Show collection for exchange]... 
http://www.geocities.com/jagrslc 
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for 
> TV Shows]... 
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[scifinoir2] Cute Little Animation for Black Children

[Amanda]

http://www.blackflixx.com/Thestrike.mov





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[scifinoir2] Watch Out Hollywood, Here Comes Nollywood

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http://www.dw-world.de/dw/article/0,1564,022,00.html
Read the article, but listen to the short clip of two filmmakers 
talking.  Pretty cool.





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[scifinoir2] Re: Whats up with the term Refugee????

[Amanda]

Really I'm starting to wonder if Alex Jones isn't too far off in 
what he's been saying that America is becoming.  Really I hope he 
is, but from what I am seeing it doesn't really look like it.

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> 
> Wow! Interesting article.  Scary article. 
> 
> Anyone getting nervous about those Green Berets walking through 
the 
> streets?
> 
> So annoying. Makes us remember that the old stereotype about 
> the "emotional," "unpredictable" black person is alive and well.  
> 
> -C
> 
> 
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> > > I too believe that there are better descriptions to use 
> > > than "refugees." Why do I believe this way?
> > 
> > They were refugees before Katrina, 
> > 
> > http://www.visioncircle.org/archive/004577.html
> > 
> > now they're more accurately termed detainees..., 
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[scifinoir2] Docu on Nollywood

[Amanda]

http://www.amstelmaltaboxoffice.com/live.htm
This is from a show that is trying to get the next Nollywood Star.  I 
think there are more than one of such reality shows coming out in 
Africa.  Bollywood is also coming out with one called Bollywood Star.

Hmm we have Next Action Star, How to be a Soap Star.lol




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[scifinoir2] Re: Euros to USD Conversion

[Amanda]

I did but what is 705,000 Euros is it like 705.00 or something.  
That and trying to figure out how much 2.5million lakh is.


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[scifinoir2] Hip-hop's grim undertones

[Amanda]

http://www.usatoday.com/news/opinion/2002-10-29-oped-goldblatt_x.htm




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[scifinoir2] World's Ugliest Dog, He's so Ugly He's Cute

[Amanda]

http://www.snopes.com/photos/animals/uglydog.asp
http://www.samugliestdog.com/
http://www.resourceinvestor.com/pebble.asp?relid=10958
http://www.wltx.com/fyi/fyi.aspx?storyid=28688
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[scifinoir2] The New Tomorrow Another Kid's Scifi Series

[Amanda]

http://www.entercloud9.com/news/newsindex.asp?main=news05_09_01

Cloud 9's latest series "The New Tomorrow" has wrapped. Final 
filming took place in the second week of September. 

The first episode of The New Tomorrow will be screening on Seven in 
Australia on 17th September from 11.00am – 12.00pm. It will also be 
screening on Shake on FIVE on Sunday's from 2nd Oct at 11.05am!

The new website will be up soon http://www.thenewtomorrow.net


The New Tomorrow (26 x 30'), is a children's sci-fi adventure 
series. The new series starts from the same premise as The Tribe - a 
world with no adults, in which children have to re-create their own 
society. This new version will be aimed at a younger audience of 8-
12 year olds.

The new version of the series sees three main tribes of children: 
The Barbs, a primitive bunch of kids; The Ants, a disparate bunch of 
children hanging on to the past; and The Priviledged, described as 
a "slightly decadent, hedonistic gang".

In contrast to The Tribe's disused shopping mall setting, The New 
Tomorrow's backdrop is snow-capped mountains, streams and rolling 
landscape. 

Many of the crew that worked on The Tribe were back for this series -
 some of them having recently completed their work on Peter 
Jackson's King Kong.

The New Tomorrow is distributed worldwide by Southern Star 
International. For more information or enquiries on broadcasting The 
New Tomorrow, please contact Southern Star International







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[scifinoir2] Star Wars in 1930's ?

[Amanda]

http://theforce.net/image_popup/image_popup_fanart.asp?
image=museum/images/Miscellaneous/Posters/js-retroswposter.jpg 

Wonder what Star Wars would have looked like if it was made in the 
30's 40's.  Who would have played the characters we all know and 
love.  Well here's your chance.





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