[scifinoir2] Re: Dole lettuce recalled in U.S., Canada

2007-09-18 Thread Martin Baxter
--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Well, I'm not too worried, because I'm not sick yet. With my health
as it is, food poisoning tends to pop up quickly.

Further bit I just picked up off Yahoo.

http://www.dole.com/CompanyInfo/SafeSalad/LatestNews_PR.jsp

I'm off the hook. The recall is for nine U.S. states. Can't remember
them offhand, but it's in the bulletin.
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:   i don't see
it tied to a particular store so Kroger might have had the bad batch
as well as Publix or anyone else. 
  
  -- Original message -- 
  From: Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Oh, crap. I polished off a head of Dole yesterday, and I tossed the
packaging. Was any of this sold at Kroger, Keith?
  
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dole lettuce recalled in U.S., Canada 
  By LISA LEFF, Associated Press Writer1 hour, 19 minutes ago 
  A division of Dole Food Co. issued an international recall of
bagged salad Monday after a sample taken from a store in Canada tested
positive for E. coli, the company said.
  There have been no reports of illness, company officials said.
  The voluntary recall affects all packages of Dole's Hearts Delight
salad mix sold in the United States and Canada with a best if used
by date of September 19, 2007, and a production code of A24924A or
A24924B, Dole said.
  The product was sold in Ontario, Quebec and the Maritime Provinces
in Canada and in Illinois, Indiana, Maine, Michigan, Mississippi, New
York, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Tennessee and neighboring U.S. states
starting the weekend before last, said Marty Ordman, a Dole spokesman.
  The romaine, green leaf and butter lettuce hearts that went into
the blend were grown in California, Colorado and Ohio, then processed
at Dole's plant in Springfield, Ohio on Sept. 6, according to Ordman.
  Eighty-eight cases were distributed in Canada and 755 cases in the
U.S., he said.
  The company's move came a day after the Canadian Food Inspection
Agency warned consumers not to eat Hearts Delight.
  Our overriding concern is for consumer safety, Eric Schwartz,
president of the Dole Fresh Vegetable division said in a statement. He
said the company was working with U.S. and Canadian health agencies,
as well as those in various states.
  The Food and Drug Administration was talking with Westlake Village,
Calif.-based Dole about the situation, agency spokesman Michael
Herndon said.
  The Canadian agency said it would be looking to find out at what
point the salad blend, which is imported into Canada, became
contaminated and to see if any other products are affected, spokesman
Garfield Balsom said.
  Last year, an E. coli outbreak traced to bagged baby spinach was
blamed for the deaths of three people and for sickening hundreds more
across the U.S.
  State and federal authorities ultimately identified a central
California cattle ranch next to spinach fields belonging to one of
Dole's suppliers as being the source of the bacteria.
  Food contaminated with this strain of E. coli may not look or smell
spoiled but health officials say the bacteria can cause
life-threatening illnesses.
  Symptoms include severe abdominal pain and bloody diarrhea; some
people can have seizures or strokes and some may need blood
transfusions and kidney dialysis, while others may live with permanent
kidney damage.
  ___
  Associated Press writer Rob Gillies in Toronto and Andrew Bridges
in Washington contributed to this report.
  
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RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Eureka Thoughts

2009-08-25 Thread Martin Baxter

AhemAHEM...

I AM truly strange. I have documentation to prove it.

If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: jazzynupe_...@yahoo.com
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 13:45:40 -0700
Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Eureka Thoughts















 





  Tasheka,

i too am so sorry 2 hear about your father.  i promise u will be in my prayers 
this evening.  also, welcome 2 the group!  beware of - Tracey and Martin (they 
are truly strange :-) - just joking Trace and 
Martin...and you both know it.  
again, welcome Tasheka.

Fate.

--- On Tue, 8/25/09, Tracey de Morsella tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com 
wrote:

From: Tracey de Morsella tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com
Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Eureka Thoughts
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, August 25, 2009, 4:28 PM






 


  Tasheka:



Sorry to hear about your dad.   I was close to my dad too. 



-Original Message-

From: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogro ups.com] On

Behalf Of tasheka4

Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 1:06 PM

To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com

Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Eureka Thoughts



Martin,



Thanks for the welcome!  You're the first to do so.  I'm just glad to find

this group and know that there are other black scifi fans out there.  I was

beginning to think I was the only one besides my dad who died last year and

left me with no one to talk to about Eureka and other scifi shows.  None of

my friends like it, and believe me I've tried to convert them.  The closest

they get is to fantasy like True Blood and Twilight (and I like these too),

but none like actual scifi which I love.  So the discussions I've been

reading here have been great!  I may not be a frequent poster because I'm in

grad school, and as the semester gets going I know I'll be really busy.

However, I will chime in with my two cents from time to time.



Tasheka



--- In scifino...@yahoogro ups.com, Martin Baxter truthseeker013@ ... wrote:



 

 Great points, Tasheka! And welcome to the group, if no one else has said

so.

 

 If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in

bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

 

 http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=fQUxw9aUVik

 

 

 

 

 To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com

 From: tashe...@...

 Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 11:11:42 +

 Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Eureka Thoughts

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

  

 

 

 

 

 

   I think the fact that there's not much else on really

makes Eureka better this season.  I remember that alternate timeline when

Carter and Allison were expecting a baby.  She was very pregnant.  When

Nathan died and we find out she's pregnant in this timeline, I thought maybe

in that other timeline when she and Carter were together, she could have

been pregnant with Nathan's child then too.  Perhaps certain portions of

that alternate timeline would be the same or similar to the present

timeline.  But then they brought in Tess, so I'm not sure.  Although Allison

was looking a little sad when she realized Tess and Carter had gone out on a

date and that Tess really liked him.  So who knows where they're going with

this.

 

 

 

 Tasheka

 

 

 

 --- In scifino...@yahoogro ups.com, angelababycat asrobinson@  wrote:

 

 

 

  I've been keeping up with Eureka more this season than in the past

(maybe because it's getting better, or maybe because there's not much else

on right now...).  But I agree that the Carterison thing was getting old.

Besides, didn't the show have an alternate reality or something that started

after Kim was killed and Henry tried to change history to where she doesn't

die or something?  In that time line (which was like 4 years?) Carter and

Allison get married, have a baby, etc.  So any real romance between them

would have to top or be very different than that story.  I'm voting for

Tess.

 

  

 

  Angela

 

  

 

  

 

  --- In scifino...@yahoogro ups.com, Tracey de Morsella tdlists@

wrote:

 

  

 

   Same here.  I actually like Allison and Carter together, but they kind

of

 

   ruined the continuity with them two season's ago. Maybe they could

regain it

 

   down the line, but making her a pregnant widow, makes that seem

impossible

 

   in the short-term

 

   

 



 

   

 

   From: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogro ups.com]

On

 

   Behalf Of Martin Baxter

 

   Sent: Monday, August 24, 2009 4:40 AM

 

   To: SciFiNoir2

 

   Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Eureka Thoughts

 

   

 



 

   

 

   

 

   

 

   Tracey, for a minute there in last week's ep, I thought that the

Carter-Tess

 

   storyline might be challenged by the introduction

RE: [scifinoir2] Eureka Thoughts

2009-08-25 Thread Martin Baxter
] On Behalf Of Keith Johnson

Sent: Monday, August 24, 2009 8:10 PM

To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com

Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Eureka Thoughts






 











I hear you. I just agree with Tracey that Zoe as a
normal teen is more interesting. Her becoming another supergenius
rolling her eyes at her dad was going to be too much. I like that they've
minimized focusing on her smarts and instead focused on her as a daughter and
young woman.

Lexi was another cliche that irritated me: the whole organic food, yoga, etc.
angle was so incredibly cardboard I groaned at first. But like Zoe and others
as they expanded her role a bit she became more interesting. i actually hated
to see her leave.



- Original Message -

From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com

To: SciFiNoir2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Monday, August 24, 2009 6:16:24 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern

Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Eureka Thoughts



  








Tracey and Keith,



Zoe being a genius really didn't strike me as all that contrived, within the
story line, considering all of the complicated e-scams she'd pulled off early
on. I wasn't keen on Lexi at first, but I warmed to her, seeing her as sort of
his antithesis, as freewheeling as he was tightly-wound.



If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in
bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik














To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com

From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net

Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2009 21:47:52 +

Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Eureka Thoughts



  








 




Agreed, Tracey. I was stunned when the daughter became a
genius, and I didn't like his sister either. Again, they try way too hard to
manufacture conflicts for Carter, when they could simply just let the show
flow!



I didn't like Lexi at first. But you know what? Like his daughter, had they
moved her out of Carter's house and let her function on her own away from him,
away from the daily spats, I'd have liked her to stay. She added normalcy
outside the nerds that populate the town.



- Original Message -

From: Tracey de Morsella tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com

To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Monday, August 24, 2009 1:30:41 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern

Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Eureka Thoughts



  








 




OK Keith, don’t get me started on they need Hewitt producing
again to prevent them from destroying the show rant.


 


I do not like Jo’s boyfriend either.  Even though it was
weird, I kinda liked Jo better with Max headroom (Matt
Frewer).Jo and the boyfriend have no chemistry and their
lines  kind of fall flat.


 


I daughter started to irk me when they decided to make her a
genius and join in on the dumb jokes. When the aunt came and they tag teamed
him it got worse.  I think moving her into the café was a good move 


 






From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Keith Johnson

Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2009 9:19 PM

To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com

Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Eureka Thoughts






 


 




A
couple more thoughts:



* I'm actually glad Nathan Stark is gone, at least in terms of the contrived
rivalry he and Carter had. I was tired of that angle too. I guess I just like
Carter's character, and feel the character needs more development to stand on
his own, outside of angles like the battles with Stark or the he's the
dumbest guy in the room thing.

  

* I don't care for Jo's boyfriend--too generic cool genius--but do like that
she has a boyfriend. Nice to see some softer angles to her...



* After all this time, the voice of the computer Sarah (named after Sarah
Michelle Gellar) still cracks me up. Everyone relizes that that
female voice is actually done by the actor who plays Fargo?





- Original Message -

From: Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net

To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2009 11:52:34 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canad a Eastern

Subject: [scifinoir2] Eureka Thoughts



  










Everyone
watching the new season of Eureka? I must saying I'm enjoying it,
even more than last season. I think that's because Carter is noticeably more
instrumental in solving cases than last year. Every ep so far, as the big
brains discuss string theory, M-branes, and quantum mechanics, Carter's always 
the
one guy in the room who cuts through the superficial coverings to get to the
heart of a problem. Indeed, one wonders how the scientists can do anything: as
smart as they are, they seem to exemplify what my mom used to say about
Book sense, but no common sense.



Fortunately they have also toned down the Carter-is-kinda-dumb thing too.
Tracey mentioned that last year that had gotten out of hand. There are still
some moments like that, but I frankly don't think they're needed. Carter's
obviously not a supergenius, so let's lose the Uh...English please? I'm
clueless scht ick. A couple of weeks ago, for example

RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Basterds Take Box Office,District 9 Holds Strong

2009-08-25 Thread Martin Baxter

Isn't he, though? IMO, Karen Sisco is the best of Elmore Leonard's properties 
brought to the screen.

If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 21:11:51 +
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Basterds Take Box Office,District 9 Holds 
Strong















 





  
Dude! Rave is missing the boat on that one! :)


- Original Message -
From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com
To: SciFiNoir2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 2:20:17 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Basterds Take Box Office,District 9 Holds 
Strong







 





  


Loved it. Would have the DVD collection now, if not for a lack of money. Just 
saw it at the Best Buy near my house.

If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik





To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 17:36:51 +
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Basterds Take Box Office,District 9 Holds 
Strong















 





  
did you like Karen Sisco, Martin?

- Original Message -
From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com
To: SciFiNoir2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 1:22:45 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Basterds Take Box Office,District 9 Holds 
Strong







 





  


rave, those fantastic gams were on display a few times and, to be honest, they 
couldn't flash them too much. Any more exposure, and menfolk might miss out on 
a thing or three.

Like the rest of the story...

If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik





To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: ravena...@yahoo.com
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 16:41:14 +
Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Basterds Take Box Office,District 9 Holds Strong















 





  While Stay Cool, is a decidedly inferior film to Get 
Shorty, my friends and I have had hours of fun quoting lines from that movie: 
Don't give me no damn gun! You know what I'm gonna do with it!  

Stop hatin', start participatin'. Come on, twinkle twinkle, baby, twinkle 
twinkle. Wanna take a shot at me kid? Do it. We often do the call and response 
Dabu (head nod) Player! (with attitude) and Vince Vaughn (and Dwayne (the 
Rock) Johnson's performances are a hoot!



And, of course, there is Sin LaSalle's soliloquy:

Have you lost your mind? I mean, how is it that you can disrespect a mans 
ethnicity when you know we've influenced nearly every facet of white America... 
from our music to our style of dress. Not to mention your basic imitation of 
our sense of cool; walk, talk, dress, mannerisms... we enrich your very 
existence, all the while contributing to the gross national product through our 
achievements in corporate America. It's these conceits that comfort me when I 
am faced with the ignorant, cowardly, bitter and bigoted, who *have* no talent, 
no guts? people like you who desecrate things they don't understand when the 
truth is - you should say thank-you, man? and go on about your way. But 
apparently you are incapable of doing that! So...[shoots his gun] 



I HATED Karen Sisco precisely because the gorgeous Carla Gugino elected to 
play a real female federal agent who in man pants, oversized jackets and caps 
pulled down on her head was, yes, cool and tough, but, alas, decidedly NOT 
sexy.  What a waste of Gugino's fabulous gams! 



~(no)rave! 



--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@... wrote:



 Interesting. I haven't seen Jackie Brown yet, but it's on my list. It's one 
 of those where I keep coming halfway into it on cable. I don't think Pam 
 Grier disrobes anymore for movie roles. Speaking of the other films, I never 
 saw Get Shorty, but had the misfortune of seeing Be Cool, which i found 
 really labored and boring. 

 

 As for other stuff based on Elmore's books, I *loved* Out of Sight, 
 probably one of--if not the best--movies in which Jennifer Lopez has starred. 
 The cool and easygoing direction of Soderbergh meshed well with Lopez and 
 Clooney. And you know what I really loved? The TV series Karen Sisco, based 
 on Out of Sight. Carla Gugino was perfect in that role as a cool, sexy, 
 tough lady. I think that type of role suits her best. Add Danny Devito, Bill 
 Duke, and Robert Forster as her father, and the cast was perfect. It had the 
 mix of danger, fun, and coolness that Burn Notice is often credited for, 
 but did it years earlier. 

 

 My wife and I loved the series and were

RE: [scifinoir2] Eureka Thoughts

2009-08-25 Thread Martin Baxter
 scientists and
engineers. I mean, i know they love to show that even the people who collect
trash or work in sewage plants are geniuses who use high tech devices to do
their work. But, even if the heads of waste management, water works, HVAC,
etc., were big brains, would *all* the people who work with and for them be so?
Just as Jo and Carter, who serve the people, are not geniuses, wouldn't there
be a decent number of people in jobs who are just normal in intelligence? I
know there was one dry cleaner--a brief love interest for Carter--who had some
kind of high tech cleaning system. But if she needed a couple of workers to
help her with the clothes, would they have to be geniuses too? Are all the
assistants at pizza parlors, doughnut shops, flower shops, HVAC repair, the
movie theatre, etc., big brains? Is every janitor at GD--and I see alot of
them, slinging those buckets and mops, 'cause they're almost like Star Trek 
redshirts
in being used for cannon fodder--brilliant?





- Original Message -

From: Tracey de Morsella tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com

To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Monday, August 24, 2009 11:58:48 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern






Subject: RE: [scifinoir2]
Eureka Thoughts



  














Actually, I do not think that
her being a normal teen is necessarily more interesting.  I had a problem
with them making her a genius for the purpose of ridiculing her father or to
create conflict between them.  I liked the conflict they had between them
fine before they mucked it up.  


 


Why I am okay with them making
her a genius has to do with me over thinking it.  Taking a child who is
normal and putting her in school with others who are geniuses in my view would
be isolating, and a self-esteem killer.No loving parent who
is aware of their child’s needs would subject their child to that.  Some
of the Zoe storylines that involved her interacting with the braining kids
while she was the only normal kid, made that issue stand out for me.


 


When they made her smart, they
stopped having those types of episodes.  So the mom and former teacher in
me was not irked


 








From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Keith Johnson

Sent: Monday, August 24, 2009 8:10 PM

To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com






Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Eureka Thoughts








 


 






I hear you. I just agree with
Tracey that Zoe as a normal teen is more interesting. Her becoming
another supergenius rolling her eyes at her dad was going to be too much. I
like that they've minimized focusing on her smarts and instead focused on her
as a daughter and young woman.

Lexi was another cliche that irritated me: the whole organic food, yoga, etc.
angle was so incredibly cardboard I groaned at first. But like Zoe and others
as they expanded her role a bit she became more interesting. i actually hated
to see her leave.



- Original Message -

From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com

To: SciFiNoir2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Monday, August 24, 2009 6:16:24 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern






Subject: RE: [scifinoir2]
Eureka Thoughts



  












Tracey
and Keith,



Zoe being a genius really didn't strike me as all that contrived, within the
story line, considering all of the complicated e-scams she'd pulled off early
on. I wasn't keen on Lexi at first, but I warmed to her, seeing her as sort of
his antithesis, as freewheeling as he was tightly-wound.






If
all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell
hired the director? -- Charles L Grant



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik














To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com






From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net

Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2009 21:47:52 +

Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Eureka Thoughts



  










 






Agreed, Tracey. I was stunned when
the daughter became a genius, and I didn't like his sister either. Again, they
try way too hard to manufacture conflicts for Carter, when they could simply
just let the show flow!



I didn't like Lexi at first. But you know what? Like his daughter, had they
moved her out of Carter's house and let her function on her own away from him,
away from the daily spats, I'd have liked her to stay. She added normalcy
outside the nerds that populate the town.



- Original Message -

From: Tracey de Morsella tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com

To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Monday, August 24, 2009 1:30:41 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern






Subject: RE: [scifinoir2]
Eureka Thoughts



  










 






OK Keith, don’t get me started
on they need Hewitt producing again to prevent them from destroying the show
rant.


 


I do not like Jo’s boyfriend
either.  Even though it was weird, I kinda liked Jo better with Max
headroom (Matt Frewer).Jo and the boyfriend have no
chemistry and their lines  kind of fall flat.


 


I daughter started to irk me
when they decided to make her

RE: [scifinoir2] Eureka Thoughts

2009-08-25 Thread Martin Baxter
 not even get lines and
also do not get dramatic deaths.  Never thought there would be anything
less than a red shirt


 






From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Keith Johnson

Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 7:00 AM

To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com

Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Eureka Thoughts






 


 






good point. 



I guess the question is, how many people in Eureka are geniuses? Even in a
small town you have a lot of basic services that don't require scientists and
engineers. I mean, i know they love to show that even the people who collect
trash or work in sewage plants are geniuses who use high tech devices to do
their work. But, even if the heads of waste management, water works, HVAC,
etc., were big brains, would *all* the people who work with and for them be so?
Just as Jo and Carter, who serve the people, are not geniuses, wouldn't there
be a decent number of people in jobs who are just normal in intelligence? I
know there was one dry cleaner--a brief love interest for Carter--who had some
kind of high tech cleaning system. But if she needed a couple of workers to
help her with the clothes, would they have to be geniuses too? Are all the
assistants at pizza parlors, doughnut shops, flower shops, HVAC repair, the
movie theatre, etc., big brains? Is every janitor at GD--and I see alot of
them, slinging those buckets and mops, 'cause they're almost like Star Trek
redshirts in being used for cannon fodder--brilliant?





- Original Message -

From: Tracey de Morsella tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com

To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Monday, August 24, 2009 11:58:48 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern






Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Eureka
Thoughts



  














Actually, I do not think that
her being a normal teen is necessarily more interesting.  I had a problem
with them making her a genius for the purpose of ridiculing her father or to
create conflict between them.  I liked the conflict they had between them
fine before they mucked it up.  


 


Why I am okay with them making
her a genius has to do with me over thinking it.  Taking a child who is normal
and putting her in school with others who are geniuses in my view would be
isolating, and a self-esteem killer.No loving parent who is
aware of their child’s needs would subject their child to that.  Some of
the Zoe storylines that involved her interacting with the braining kids while
she was the only normal kid, made that issue stand out for me.


 


When they made her smart, they
stopped having those types of episodes.  So the mom and former teacher in
me was not irked


 








From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Keith Johnson

Sent: Monday, August 24, 2009 8:10 PM

To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com






Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Eureka Thoughts








 


 






I hear you. I just agree with Tracey that Zoe as a
normal teen is more interesting. Her becoming another supergenius
rolling her eyes at her dad was going to be too much. I like that they've
minimized focusing on her smarts and instead focused on her as a daughter and
young woman.

Lexi was another cliche that irritated me: the whole organic food, yoga, etc.
angle was so incredibly cardboard I groaned at first. But like Zoe and others
as they expanded her role a bit she became more interesting. i actually hated
to see her leave.



- Original Message -

From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com

To: SciFiNoir2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Monday, August 24, 2009 6:16:24 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern






Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Eureka
Thoughts



  












Tracey and Keith,



Zoe being a genius really didn't strike me as all that contrived, within the
story line, considering all of the complicated e-scams she'd pulled off early
on. I wasn't keen on Lexi at first, but I warmed to her, seeing her as sort of
his antithesis, as freewheeling as he was tightly-wound.






If all the
world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the
director? -- Charles L Grant



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik










To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com






From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net

Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2009 21:47:52 +

Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Eureka Thoughts



  










 






Agreed, Tracey. I was stunned when the daughter
became a genius, and I didn't like his sister either. Again, they try way too
hard to manufacture conflicts for Carter, when they could simply just let the
show flow!



I didn't like Lexi at first. But you know what? Like his daughter, had they
moved her out of Carter's house and let her function on her own away from him,
away from the daily spats, I'd have liked her to stay. She added normalcy
outside the nerds that populate the town.



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From: Tracey de Morsella tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com

To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Monday, August 24

RE: [scifinoir2] This is scary! Cellphone takes over man's stove

2009-08-25 Thread Martin Baxter

Agreed. But that's us thinking real-world. Something that H'Wood hasn't even a 
passing notion of...

If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: hellomahog...@gmail.com
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 12:44:04 -0700
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] This is scary! Cellphone takes over man's stove















 





  The thing that bugged me about the Terminator was its vast 
misuse of resources. If it really wanted to kill humanity it could have just 
engineered a virus. A computer virus would have disabled communication followed 
by a biological virus and it could have wiped out everyone... 





On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 10:33 AM, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com 
wrote:


























And, when the Terminator franchise comes to vivid reality... 

If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com

From: hellomahog...@gmail.com
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 08:31:32 -0700
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] This is scary! Cellphone takes over man's stove
















 





  As things become more web enabled they start running the 
danger of a virus. What if his cellphone gave his stove a virus? I know its not 
possible right now but soon...very soon... 

We already have web enabled stoves and refrigerators. All it takes is some kid 
on summer vacation to play around with it. 




On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 4:39 AM, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com 
wrote:


























Now, if we were to install Magic Chef ovens in teenagers' cars, 
texting-while-driving would become a thing of the past.

If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com


From: hellomahog...@gmail.com
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 00:22:18 -0700
Subject: [scifinoir2] This is scary! Cellphone takes over man's stove















 





  
http://www.switched.com/2009/08/19/cell-phone-inexplicably-turns-on-brooklyn-mans-oven?icid=sphere_blogsmith_inpage_engadget



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RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Eureka Thoughts

2009-08-25 Thread Martin Baxter

You are welcome. My condolences to you on your loss, and please chime in more 
often than from time to time.

If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: tashe...@netzero.com
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 20:06:18 +
Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Eureka Thoughts















 





  Martin,



Thanks for the welcome!  You're the first to do so.  I'm just glad to find this 
group and know that there are other black scifi fans out there.  I was 
beginning to think I was the only one besides my dad who died last year and 
left me with no one to talk to about Eureka and other scifi shows.  None of my 
friends like it, and believe me I've tried to convert them.  The closest they 
get is to fantasy like True Blood and Twilight (and I like these too), but none 
like actual scifi which I love.  So the discussions I've been reading here have 
been great!  I may not be a frequent poster because I'm in grad school, and as 
the semester gets going I know I'll be really busy.  However, I will chime in 
with my two cents from time to time.



Tasheka



--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@... wrote:



 

 Great points, Tasheka! And welcome to the group, if no one else has said so.

 

 If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
 hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

 

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik

 

 

 

 

 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com

 From: tashe...@...

 Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 11:11:42 +

 Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Eureka Thoughts

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

  

 

 

 

 

 

   I think the fact that there's not much else on really makes 
 Eureka better this season.  I remember that alternate timeline when Carter 
 and Allison were expecting a baby.  She was very pregnant.  When Nathan died 
 and we find out she's pregnant in this timeline, I thought maybe in that 
 other timeline when she and Carter were together, she could have been 
 pregnant with Nathan's child then too.  Perhaps certain portions of that 
 alternate timeline would be the same or similar to the present timeline.  But 
 then they brought in Tess, so I'm not sure.  Although Allison was looking a 
 little sad when she realized Tess and Carter had gone out on a date and that 
 Tess really liked him.  So who knows where they're going with this.

 

 

 

 Tasheka

 

 

 

 --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, angelababycat asrobinson@ wrote:

 

 

 

  I've been keeping up with Eureka more this season than in the past (maybe 
  because it's getting better, or maybe because there's not much else on 
  right now...).  But I agree that the Carterison thing was getting old.  
  Besides, didn't the show have an alternate reality or something that 
  started after Kim was killed and Henry tried to change history to where she 
  doesn't die or something?  In that time line (which was like 4 years?) 
  Carter and Allison get married, have a baby, etc.  So any real romance 
  between them would have to top or be very different than that story.  I'm 
  voting for Tess.

 

  

 

  Angela

 

  

 

  

 

  --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Tracey de Morsella tdlists@ wrote:

 

  

 

   Same here.  I actually like Allison and Carter together, but they kind of

 

   ruined the continuity with them two season's ago. Maybe they could regain 
   it

 

   down the line, but making her a pregnant widow, makes that seem impossible

 

   in the short-term

 

   

 



 

   

 

   From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On

 

   Behalf Of Martin Baxter

 

   Sent: Monday, August 24, 2009 4:40 AM

 

   To: SciFiNoir2

 

   Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Eureka Thoughts

 

   

 



 

   

 

   

 

   

 

   Tracey, for a minute there in last week's ep, I thought that the 
   Carter-Tess

 

   storyline might be challenged by the introduction of Billy Campbell's Dr

 

   Manly character, consideriung the way she was goo-goo-eyeing him at 
   first,

 

   and the malfunctioning baby monitor that had Carter and Allison linked up

 

   sympathetically.

 

   

 

   If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in 
   bloody

 

   hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

 

   

 

   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik

 

   

 

   

 

   

 

   

 

   

 

 _  

 

   

 

   To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com

 

   From: tdlists@

 

   Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2009 22:25:49 -0700

 

   Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Eureka Thoughts

 

   

 

 

 

   

 



 

   

 

   I was getting sick of the silly Fargo side plot distractions, but last 
   week

 

   they did not have one, it seemed more like season one (which was my

 

   favorite), so I am starting to like

RE: [scifinoir2] Police: Drug ring used comic books to launder cash

2009-08-26 Thread Martin Baxter

That is just WRONG. 

If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: s...@bayindogroup.com
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 22:09:49 -0700
Subject: [scifinoir2] Police: Drug ring used comic books to launder cash















 





  
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RE: [scifinoir2] Is NBC's Merlin Any Good?

2009-08-26 Thread Martin Baxter

It's still on the air? Seriously -- I haven't seen it in my TV guide for weeks.

If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: justinmoha...@gmail.com
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 23:57:43 -0400
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Is NBC's Merlin Any Good?















 





  Camelot 90210.  The wife likes it, but me?  Not so much.



Justin



On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 11:49 PM, Keith

Johnsonkeithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote:





 Anyone watching Merlin? I believe former Buffy star Anthony Head is one

 of the stars. I keep missing it. I've heard it's a lightweight telling of

 the Arthurian era. Someone likened it to One Tree Hill in the Middle Ages,

 or perhaps, the lighter aspects of Smallville once all the youngsters took

 over.

 I'm curious if it's worth a viewing?



 http://www.nbc.com/merlin/

 



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RE: [scifinoir2] Is NBC's Merlin Any Good?

2009-08-26 Thread Martin Baxter

Keith, I've seen two eps of it, never all the way through. That's the best 
review I can give it.

If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2009 03:49:19 +
Subject: [scifinoir2] Is NBC's Merlin Any Good?















 





  
Anyone watching Merlin? I believe former Buffy star Anthony Head is one of 
the stars. I keep missing it. I've heard it's a lightweight telling of the 
Arthurian era. Someone likened it to One Tree Hill in the Middle Ages, or 
perhaps, the lighter aspects of Smallville once all the youngsters took over.
I'm curious if it's worth a viewing?

http://www.nbc.com/merlin/


 

  














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RE: [scifinoir2] Halle Berry, She's Fine (was:Karen Sisko (was: Re: Basterds Take Box Office

2009-08-26 Thread Martin Baxter

Keith Johnson -- clearly a man of excellent and discriminating tastes.

If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2009 03:22:51 +
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Halle Berry, She's Fine (was:Karen Sisko (was: Re: 
Basterds Take Box Office















 





  
Funny! I have nothing against her at all. I'd have to say she's pretty, she 
just doesn't give me that wow! factor when I look at her.  While we're at it, 
yes, the following women would also be on my list of Don't pant and salivate 
like many other people :

Gina Torres - she's tough and attractive as heck, though 

Rosario Dawson (love her, but just don't see the wild physical attraction) 

The Sister on Warehouse 13 

Naomi Campbell (although her attitude has turned off most men)  

Eva Mendes (really don't get that one)  

Nichele Nichols (nice gams, though, and boy did she work that costume in 
Mirror, Mirror!  

Angelina Jolie - She can look alluring, like a cat, at the right times, but 
mostly is too gaunt and strained looking for me  

Jeri Ryan - Seven certainly filled out the outer space catsuit, but so could a 
lot of women

People that did literally make me breathless when I first beheld them, and 
continue to turn me into a drooling idiot :

Gabrielle Union (looks like a living doll, I find it hard to pull my eyes from 
her face) 

Charisma Carpenter - one of many reasons I started watching Angel

Sanaa Lathan - Those soulful, vulnerable looking eyes, and those lips, I'd 
watch her sell Stride gum!

Nia Long (something about her in Love Jones) 

Kenya Moore - first saw her on Arsenio Hall wearing a tight red dress with a 
slit up the side. Arsenio could literally barely speak, and I was wondering 
Why the hell didn't I watch the Miss USA pageant?!. 

Catherine Zeta-Jones - I just kept staring at her in Zorro, those long 
brunette locks, that pert nose, the eyes--wow 

Roselyn Sanchez - tough and sexy, with a throaty voice and accent that just 
make me melt 

Selma Hayek - curves in all the right places, and that voice! I'm not into food 
and foreplay, but seeing her slowly and lovingly stir a pot of some brew she'd 
cooked up on Keenan Ivory Wayans' talk show had me all but licking the screen!








- Original Message -
From: ravenadal ravena...@yahoo.com
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 9:54:46 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: [scifinoir2] Halle Berry, She's Fine (was:Karen Sisko (was: Re: 
Basterds Take Box Office







 





  Don't get Halle Berry?  Somebody wrote a song about it.  Want 
to hear it?  Here it go!



http://uxite.notlong.com



http://ahfuthie.notlong.com



--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@... wrote:



 I don't know from the pornstar. I love Rosario Dawson, but am not as 
 hormonally fired up by her as the rest of you guys. Halle Berry is not bad, 
 but she's another who's loin-exciting abilities i've never gotten. I just 
 don't find her to be smokin' hot. 

 But Gugino, man she has it in spades! I still enjoyed Karen Sisco, and think 
 it would have gotten better with time. 

 

 

 - Original Message - 

 From: ravenadal ravena...@... 

 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 

 Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 5:55:52 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 

 Subject: [scifinoir2] Karen Sisko (was: Re: Basterds Take Box 
 Office,District 9 Holds Strong) 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 Believe me, my love for Carla Gugino is only exceeded by my love for Halle 
 Berry, Rosario Dawson and porn star Jasmine Cashmere (all of whom I will 
 watch in ANYTHING). I wanted to love Karen Sisko, I really did! I DVRed 
 it and everything! I was rooting for Gugino. I was rooting for Robert 
 Forster. Heck, I was rooting for Danny DeVito's production company. But I 
 found it slow, plodding and, finally, unwatchable. It had none of the nerve 
 and verve of Out of Sight, which was primo, and, more importantly none of 
 the chemistry George Clooney and Jennifer Lopez brought to the movie. 

 

 ~(no)rave! 

 

 --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ wrote: 

  

  Dude! Rave is missing the boat on that one! :) 

  

  

  - Original Message - 

  From: Martin Baxter truthseeker013@ 

  To: SciFiNoir2  scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com  

  Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 2:20:17 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 

  Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Basterds Take Box Office,District 9 Holds 
  Strong 

  

  

  

  

  

  

  Loved it. Would have the DVD collection now, if not for a lack of money. 
  Just saw it at the Best Buy near my house. 

  

  If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in 
  bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant 

  

  http

RE: [scifinoir2] Karen Sisko (was: Re: Basterds Take Box Office,District 9 Holds Strong)

2009-08-26 Thread Martin Baxter

What puts The Carla over the top for me is her mixture of looks, brains and 
intestinal fortitude in her roles.

If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2009 01:18:57 +
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Karen Sisko (was: Re: Basterds Take Box 
Office,District 9 Holds Strong)















 





  
I don't know from the pornstar. I love Rosario Dawson, but am not as hormonally 
fired up by her as the rest of you guys. Halle Berry is not bad, but she's 
another who's loin-exciting abilities i've never gotten. I just don't find her 
to be smokin' hot. 
But Gugino, man she has it in spades! I still enjoyed Karen Sisco, and think it 
would have gotten better with time.


- Original Message -
From: ravenadal ravena...@yahoo.com
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 5:55:52 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: [scifinoir2] Karen Sisko (was: Re: Basterds Take Box Office,District 
9 Holds Strong)







 





  Believe me, my love for Carla Gugino is only exceeded by my 
love for Halle Berry, Rosario Dawson and porn star Jasmine Cashmere (all of 
whom I will watch in ANYTHING).  I wanted to love Karen Sisko, I really 
did! I DVRed it and everything! I was rooting for Gugino.  I was rooting for 
Robert Forster.  Heck, I was rooting for Danny DeVito's production company. But 
I found it slow, plodding and, finally, unwatchable.  It had none of the nerve 
and verve of Out of Sight, which was primo, and, more importantly none of the 
chemistry George Clooney and Jennifer Lopez brought to the movie.



~(no)rave!



--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@... wrote:



 Dude! Rave is missing the boat on that one! :) 

 

 

 - Original Message - 

 From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@... 

 To: SciFiNoir2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 

 Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 2:20:17 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 

 Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Basterds Take Box Office,District 9 Holds 
 Strong 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 Loved it. Would have the DVD collection now, if not for a lack of money. Just 
 saw it at the Best Buy near my house. 

 

 If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
 hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant 

 

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik 

 

 

 

 

 

 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 

 From: keithbjohn...@... 

 Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 17:36:51 + 

 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Basterds Take Box Office,District 9 Holds 
 Strong 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 did you like Karen Sisco, Martin? 

 

 - Original Message - 

 From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@... 

 To: SciFiNoir2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 

 Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 1:22:45 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 

 Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Basterds Take Box Office,District 9 Holds 
 Strong 

 

 

 

 

 rave, those fantastic gams were on display a few times and, to be honest, 
 they couldn't flash them too much. Any more exposure, and menfolk might miss 
 out on a thing or three. 

 

 Like the rest of the story... 

 

 If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
 hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant 

 

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 

 From: ravena...@... 

 Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 16:41:14 + 

 Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Basterds Take Box Office,District 9 Holds Strong 

 

 

 

 

 While Stay Cool, is a decidedly inferior film to Get Shorty, my friends 
 and I have had hours of fun quoting lines from that movie: Don't give me no 
 damn gun! You know what I'm gonna do with it! 

 Stop hatin', start participatin'. Come on, twinkle twinkle, baby, twinkle 
 twinkle. Wanna take a shot at me kid? Do it. We often do the call and 
 response Dabu (head nod) Player! (with attitude) and Vince Vaughn (and 
 Dwayne (the Rock) Johnson's performances are a hoot! 

 

 And, of course, there is Sin LaSalle's soliloquy: 

 Have you lost your mind? I mean, how is it that you can disrespect a mans 
 ethnicity when you know we've influenced nearly every facet of white 
 America... from our music to our style of dress. Not to mention your basic 
 imitation of our sense of cool; walk, talk, dress, mannerisms... we enrich 
 your very existence, all the while contributing to the gross national product 
 through our achievements in corporate America. It's these conceits that 
 comfort me when I am faced with the ignorant, cowardly, bitter and bigoted, 
 who *have* no talent, no guts? people like you who desecrate things they 
 don't understand when the truth is - you should say thank-you, man? and go on 
 about your way. But apparently you are incapable of doing that! So...[shoots

RE: [scifinoir2] Karen Sisko (was: Re: Basterds Take Box Office,District 9 Holds Strong)

2009-08-26 Thread Martin Baxter

Sent too soon, sorry. I wanted to add that she exemplifies the characteristics 
I've found in every Woman of Importance in my life.

If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2009 01:18:57 +
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Karen Sisko (was: Re: Basterds Take Box 
Office,District 9 Holds Strong)















 





  
I don't know from the pornstar. I love Rosario Dawson, but am not as hormonally 
fired up by her as the rest of you guys. Halle Berry is not bad, but she's 
another who's loin-exciting abilities i've never gotten. I just don't find her 
to be smokin' hot. 
But Gugino, man she has it in spades! I still enjoyed Karen Sisco, and think it 
would have gotten better with time.


- Original Message -
From: ravenadal ravena...@yahoo.com
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 5:55:52 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: [scifinoir2] Karen Sisko (was: Re: Basterds Take Box Office,District 
9 Holds Strong)







 





  Believe me, my love for Carla Gugino is only exceeded by my 
love for Halle Berry, Rosario Dawson and porn star Jasmine Cashmere (all of 
whom I will watch in ANYTHING).  I wanted to love Karen Sisko, I really 
did! I DVRed it and everything! I was rooting for Gugino.  I was rooting for 
Robert Forster.  Heck, I was rooting for Danny DeVito's production company. But 
I found it slow, plodding and, finally, unwatchable.  It had none of the nerve 
and verve of Out of Sight, which was primo, and, more importantly none of the 
chemistry George Clooney and Jennifer Lopez brought to the movie.



~(no)rave!



--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@... wrote:



 Dude! Rave is missing the boat on that one! :) 

 

 

 - Original Message - 

 From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@... 

 To: SciFiNoir2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 

 Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 2:20:17 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 

 Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Basterds Take Box Office,District 9 Holds 
 Strong 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 Loved it. Would have the DVD collection now, if not for a lack of money. Just 
 saw it at the Best Buy near my house. 

 

 If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
 hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant 

 

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik 

 

 

 

 

 

 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 

 From: keithbjohn...@... 

 Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 17:36:51 + 

 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Basterds Take Box Office,District 9 Holds 
 Strong 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 did you like Karen Sisco, Martin? 

 

 - Original Message - 

 From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@... 

 To: SciFiNoir2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 

 Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 1:22:45 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 

 Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Basterds Take Box Office,District 9 Holds 
 Strong 

 

 

 

 

 rave, those fantastic gams were on display a few times and, to be honest, 
 they couldn't flash them too much. Any more exposure, and menfolk might miss 
 out on a thing or three. 

 

 Like the rest of the story... 

 

 If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
 hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant 

 

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 

 From: ravena...@... 

 Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 16:41:14 + 

 Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Basterds Take Box Office,District 9 Holds Strong 

 

 

 

 

 While Stay Cool, is a decidedly inferior film to Get Shorty, my friends 
 and I have had hours of fun quoting lines from that movie: Don't give me no 
 damn gun! You know what I'm gonna do with it! 

 Stop hatin', start participatin'. Come on, twinkle twinkle, baby, twinkle 
 twinkle. Wanna take a shot at me kid? Do it. We often do the call and 
 response Dabu (head nod) Player! (with attitude) and Vince Vaughn (and 
 Dwayne (the Rock) Johnson's performances are a hoot! 

 

 And, of course, there is Sin LaSalle's soliloquy: 

 Have you lost your mind? I mean, how is it that you can disrespect a mans 
 ethnicity when you know we've influenced nearly every facet of white 
 America... from our music to our style of dress. Not to mention your basic 
 imitation of our sense of cool; walk, talk, dress, mannerisms... we enrich 
 your very existence, all the while contributing to the gross national product 
 through our achievements in corporate America. It's these conceits that 
 comfort me when I am faced with the ignorant, cowardly, bitter and bigoted, 
 who *have* no talent, no guts? people like you who desecrate things they 
 don't understand when the truth is - you should say thank-you, man? and go on 
 about your way. But apparently you are incapable of doing

RE: [scifinoir2] Eureka Thoughts - Joe Morton

2009-08-26 Thread Martin Baxter

As do I.

In an entirely manly way, of course.

If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 17:29:15 -0700
Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Eureka Thoughts - Joe Morton















 





  








Look ahead.  I LOVE JOE MORTON. 

 





From:
scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Keith
Johnson

Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 2:42 PM

To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com

Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Eureka Thoughts - Joe Morton





 











Hey
what gives? No other love for Joe Morton?



Surely I can't the only one who's seen The Brother from Another Planet,
or who likes John Sayles??  :(



- Original Message -

From: Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net

To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Monday, August 24, 2009 11:41:13 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern

Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Eureka Thoughts - Joe Morton



  









I
can't stress enough how much Joe Morton brings to Eureka. Morton's
one of those actors with a face and bearing you just trust and respect. He can
play a likeable guy, a strong leader, a tortured and confused soul. I have
followed him for years, whether it's been great turns in John Sayles
flicks--and it's saying a lot that Morton is a fav of Sayles'--having the lead
in the shortlived TV series Under One Roof, playing a memorable
role as a former boxer turned transvestite on New York Undercover,
or even his guest stint as Whitley's love interest on A Different
World.  Even his bit in Terminator 2 is memorable. The
anguish he feels at what his work has caused for the future is palpable, and I
hated to see the character die. 



It's a crime that Morton hasn't gotten the major roles and respect he deserves.
He's done a lot of stuff, but never got to that A-list on TV or film. And while
I'm really happy to see him get steady work on Eureka, and like the
steadiness his character brings to that world, I keep hoping to see him get
some meatier roles. That's especially true as long as the showrunners seem
hesitant to give him a real life. Like I said, he's mayor now, but that angle's
not explored, and I really dislike them killing off Kim--twice.



And for those of you young 'un's who don't understand my praise of Morton, do
yourself a favor and look up his great performances in the movie City of
Hope (a John Sayles joint), the shortlived but well done TV series
Tribeca (which co-starred Carl Lumbly and Lawrence Fishburne), and
especially, the classic Sayles' film The Brother From Another
Planet. That last, in which Morton plays an alien slave on the run, is an
amazing performance given that he speaks not a word, and must convey everything
with just his facial expressions and body language.



I wonder if the Eureka showrunners really understand what a great
asset they have in Morton...?





- Original Message -

From: Tracey de Morsella tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com

To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Monday, August 24, 2009 8:58:50 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern

Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Eureka Thoughts



  









They are the best actors however, some
of the guest stars and recurring characters are also good, Frances Fisher (Eva
Thorne); and Tamlyn Tomita (Kim Anderson); and Debrah Farentino, (The
Psychiatrist) are some that come to mind

 





From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Keith Johnson

Sent: Monday, August 24, 2009 2:57 PM

To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com

Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Eureka Thoughts





 

 



The best actors on the show are Joe Morton, Richardson, and
Ferguson. All of them are good actors, and I think they honestly rise above
material that tries to make them cliches too much. Ferguson is a stronger man
than Carter gets to be: that befuddled schtick gets old. Richardson has more
warmth and personality than her tough Allison character. Morton actually makes
Henry the most well-rounded character, a tribut to the man's phenomenal talents
(I think he's one of the most underrated and underused actors working).



But I keep noticing that even as I like the stories--and I am liking this
season--i keep seeing types in all the characters, main stars and
guests. They are very by-the-book at times. It's the actors that seem to rise
above it with their likeability and acting chops. They need to round out the
characterizations just a bit...





- Original Message -

From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com

To: SciFiNoir2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Monday, August 24, 2009 7:39:36 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern

Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Eureka Thoughts



  







Tracey, for a minute there in last week's ep, I thought that the
Carter-Tess storyline might be challenged by the introduction of Billy

RE: [scifinoir2] An homage to Homer, African style

2009-08-26 Thread Martin Baxter

Would Homer really *mind* the change of beer?

If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: hellomahog...@gmail.com
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2009 10:26:47 -0700
Subject: [scifinoir2] An homage to Homer, African style















 





  










  





  (sorry no pic!)

An homage to Homer, African style












   






















  




LUANDA (Reuters) - An Angolan
advertising agency has given Homer Simpson and his family an African
makeover, raising eyebrows among fans of one of America's most
cherished sitcoms.



The Simpsons, broadcast in more than 90 countries, have always been
portrayed as yellow but the advertising agency, Executive Center in
Luanda, decided to turn them brown in a promotional video aired by
Africa's digital satellite TV service DSTV in Angola.



Homer, Marge, Lisa and Bart are portrayed as Africans sitting on
their over-used family couch. The family is shown wearing
African-inspired clothing and their living room has little more than
two huge loud speakers.



Even Homer's cherished beer has been replaced by Cuca, the Budweiser of Angola.



Couldn't they have left Marge's hair blue? said Ryan, a blogger,
in a post below a picture of Marge with a jet black afro hairdo.



The creative director of Executive Center, Antonio Pascoa, said:
Our goal was to adapt the satirical parody of the typical middle-class
American family to Angola.



If people don't like it than I guess they don't have a sense of humor big 
enough to enjoy the Simpsons.



(Reporting by Henrique Almeida)

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RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Eureka Thoughts - Joe Morton

2009-08-26 Thread Martin Baxter

Angela, that's a truly inspired thought.

If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: asrobin...@mindspring.com
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2009 14:15:37 +
Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Eureka Thoughts - Joe Morton















 





  I've been a fan since The Brother from Another Planet as 
well.



Was sorry to see him blow in T2.  Even when the wife appears in TSCC, you go 
back to the moment when he couldn't hold down that det switch any 
longer...maybe the Resistance finds his DNA in the future and brings him back 
to write the code needed to take out the Terminators?



--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@... wrote:



 

 As do I.

 

 In an entirely manly way, of course.

 

 If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
 hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

 

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik

 

 

 

 

 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com

 From: tdli...@...

 Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 17:29:15 -0700

 Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Eureka Thoughts - Joe Morton

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

  

 

 

 

 

 

   

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 Look ahead.  I LOVE JOE MORTON. 

 

  

 

 

 

 

 

 From:

 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of 
 Keith

 Johnson

 

 Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 2:42 PM

 

 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com

 

 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Eureka Thoughts - Joe Morton

 

 

 

 

 

  

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 Hey

 what gives? No other love for Joe Morton?

 

 

 

 Surely I can't the only one who's seen The Brother from Another Planet,

 or who likes John Sayles??  :(

 

 

 

 - Original Message -

 

 From: Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@...

 

 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com

 

 Sent: Monday, August 24, 2009 11:41:13 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern

 

 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Eureka Thoughts - Joe Morton

 

 

 

   

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 I

 can't stress enough how much Joe Morton brings to Eureka. Morton's

 one of those actors with a face and bearing you just trust and respect. He can

 play a likeable guy, a strong leader, a tortured and confused soul. I have

 followed him for years, whether it's been great turns in John Sayles

 flicks--and it's saying a lot that Morton is a fav of Sayles'--having the lead

 in the shortlived TV series Under One Roof, playing a memorable

 role as a former boxer turned transvestite on New York Undercover,

 or even his guest stint as Whitley's love interest on A Different

 World.  Even his bit in Terminator 2 is memorable. The

 anguish he feels at what his work has caused for the future is palpable, and I

 hated to see the character die. 

 

 

 

 It's a crime that Morton hasn't gotten the major roles and respect he 
 deserves.

 He's done a lot of stuff, but never got to that A-list on TV or film. And 
 while

 I'm really happy to see him get steady work on Eureka, and like the

 steadiness his character brings to that world, I keep hoping to see him get

 some meatier roles. That's especially true as long as the showrunners seem

 hesitant to give him a real life. Like I said, he's mayor now, but that 
 angle's

 not explored, and I really dislike them killing off Kim--twice.

 

 

 

 And for those of you young 'un's who don't understand my praise of Morton, do

 yourself a favor and look up his great performances in the movie City of

 Hope (a John Sayles joint), the shortlived but well done TV series

 Tribeca (which co-starred Carl Lumbly and Lawrence Fishburne), and

 especially, the classic Sayles' film The Brother From Another

 Planet. That last, in which Morton plays an alien slave on the run, is an

 amazing performance given that he speaks not a word, and must convey 
 everything

 with just his facial expressions and body language.

 

 

 

 I wonder if the Eureka showrunners really understand what a great

 asset they have in Morton...?

 

 

 

 

 

 - Original Message -

 

 From: Tracey de Morsella tdli...@...

 

 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com

 

 Sent: Monday, August 24, 2009 8:58:50 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern

 

 Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Eureka Thoughts

 

 

 

   

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 They are the best actors however, some

 of the guest stars and recurring characters are also good, Frances Fisher (Eva

 Thorne); and Tamlyn Tomita (Kim Anderson); and Debrah Farentino, (The

 Psychiatrist) are some that come to mind

 

  

 

 

 

 

 

 From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com

 [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Keith Johnson

 

 Sent: Monday, August 24, 2009 2:57 PM

 

 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com

 

 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Eureka Thoughts

 

 

 

 

 

  

 

  

 

 

 

 The best actors on the show

RE: [scifinoir2] Karen Sisko (was: Re: Basterds Take Box Office,District 9 Holds Strong)

2009-08-26 Thread Martin Baxter

I have seen that, rave. It's on my To-Buy List, for the day when I have the 
money to look at it without slipping into deep depression. (Seven pages to 
date, *no* spaces.)

If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: ravena...@yahoo.com
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2009 13:10:51 +
Subject: [scifinoir2] Karen Sisko (was: Re: Basterds Take Box Office,District 
9 Holds Strong)















 





  If you like Carla Gugino (I do!  I do!) you must see Judas 
Kiss (1998).  To date, outside of a hand full of Entourage episodes, it is 
the only vehicle to take full advantage of Ms. Gugino's many charms.  It also 
had quirkly performances by Alan Rickman and Emma Thompson to recommend it.



~rave!



--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@... wrote:



 

 What puts The Carla over the top for me is her mixture of looks, brains and 
 intestinal fortitude in her roles.

 

 If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
 hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

 

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik

 

 

 

 

 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com

 From: keithbjohn...@...

 Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2009 01:18:57 +

 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Karen Sisko (was: Re: Basterds Take Box 
 Office,District 9 Holds Strong)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

  

 

 

 

 

 

   

 I don't know from the pornstar. I love Rosario Dawson, but am not as 
 hormonally fired up by her as the rest of you guys. Halle Berry is not bad, 
 but she's another who's loin-exciting abilities i've never gotten. I just 
 don't find her to be smokin' hot. 

 But Gugino, man she has it in spades! I still enjoyed Karen Sisco, and think 
 it would have gotten better with time.

 

 

 - Original Message -

 From: ravenadal ravena...@...

 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com

 Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 5:55:52 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern

 Subject: [scifinoir2] Karen Sisko (was: Re: Basterds Take Box 
 Office,District 9 Holds Strong)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

  

 

 

 

 

 

   Believe me, my love for Carla Gugino is only exceeded by my 
 love for Halle Berry, Rosario Dawson and porn star Jasmine Cashmere (all of 
 whom I will watch in ANYTHING).  I wanted to love Karen Sisko, I really 
 did! I DVRed it and everything! I was rooting for Gugino.  I was rooting for 
 Robert Forster.  Heck, I was rooting for Danny DeVito's production company. 
 But I found it slow, plodding and, finally, unwatchable.  It had none of the 
 nerve and verve of Out of Sight, which was primo, and, more importantly 
 none of the chemistry George Clooney and Jennifer Lopez brought to the movie.

 

 

 

 ~(no)rave!

 

 

 

 --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ wrote:

 

 

 

  Dude! Rave is missing the boat on that one! :) 

 

  

 

  

 

  - Original Message - 

 

  From: Martin Baxter truthseeker013@ 

 

  To: SciFiNoir2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 

 

  Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 2:20:17 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 

 

  Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Basterds Take Box Office,District 9 Holds 
  Strong 

 

  

 

  

 

  

 

  

 

  

 

  

 

  Loved it. Would have the DVD collection now, if not for a lack of money. 
  Just saw it at the Best Buy near my house. 

 

  

 

  If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in 
  bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant 

 

  

 

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik 

 

  

 

  

 

  

 

  

 

  

 

  To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 

 

  From: KeithBJohnson@ 

 

  Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 17:36:51 + 

 

  Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Basterds Take Box Office,District 9 Holds 
  Strong 

 

  

 

  

 

  

 

  

 

  

 

  

 

  did you like Karen Sisco, Martin? 

 

  

 

  - Original Message - 

 

  From: Martin Baxter truthseeker013@ 

 

  To: SciFiNoir2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 

 

  Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 1:22:45 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 

 

  Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Basterds Take Box Office,District 9 Holds 
  Strong 

 

  

 

  

 

  

 

  

 

  rave, those fantastic gams were on display a few times and, to be honest, 
  they couldn't flash them too much. Any more exposure, and menfolk might 
  miss out on a thing or three. 

 

  

 

  Like the rest of the story... 

 

  

 

  If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in 
  bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant 

 

  

 

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik 

 

  

 

  

 

  

 

  

 

  

 

  

 

  To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 

 

  From: ravenadal@ 

 

  Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 16:41:14 + 

 

  Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Basterds Take Box Office

RE: [scifinoir2] An homage to Homer, African style

2009-08-26 Thread Martin Baxter

Mr Worf, I meant to chase this down today, but I've been too busy today. As 
soon as I do, I'll post it here.

If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: hellomahog...@gmail.com
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2009 19:04:28 -0700
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] An homage to Homer, African style















 





  What I am curious about is did they color all of the 
characters? Like Mr.Burns and Moe? That has to be weird. 


On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 12:48 PM, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com 
wrote:


























Would Homer really *mind* the change of beer?

If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik





To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: hellomahog...@gmail.com
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2009 10:26:47 -0700

Subject: [scifinoir2] An homage to Homer, African style















 





  










  





  (sorry no pic!)

An homage to Homer, African style












   






















  




LUANDA (Reuters) - An Angolan
advertising agency has given Homer Simpson and his family an African
makeover, raising eyebrows among fans of one of America's most
cherished sitcoms.



The Simpsons, broadcast in more than 90 countries, have always been
portrayed as yellow but the advertising agency, Executive Center in
Luanda, decided to turn them brown in a promotional video aired by
Africa's digital satellite TV service DSTV in Angola.



Homer, Marge, Lisa and Bart are portrayed as Africans sitting on
their over-used family couch. The family is shown wearing
African-inspired clothing and their living room has little more than
two huge loud speakers.



Even Homer's cherished beer has been replaced by Cuca, the Budweiser of Angola.



Couldn't they have left Marge's hair blue? said Ryan, a blogger,
in a post below a picture of Marge with a jet black afro hairdo.



The creative director of Executive Center, Antonio Pascoa, said:
Our goal was to adapt the satirical parody of the typical middle-class
American family to Angola.



If people don't like it than I guess they don't have a sense of humor big 
enough to enjoy the Simpsons.



(Reporting by Henrique Almeida)

-- 
Bringing diversity to perversity for 9 years! 
Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/





 

  














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RE: [scifinoir2] Star Trek Generation

2009-08-27 Thread Martin Baxter

Makes me smile every time, Fate.

If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
CC: blackscifihorrorfantasyc...@yahoogroups.com
From: jazzynupe_...@yahoo.com
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 04:22:42 -0700
Subject: [scifinoir2] Star Trek Generation















 





  Sitting here drinking my morning coffee getting ready 4 work 
and watching 'Star Trek: Generations' on HBO2.  The saucer section separates 
from the star drive section as the warp core breeches.  the resulting shock 
wave knocks the saucer section out of orbit and into the atmosphere.  then u 
get classic Data.  he has the emotion chip activated and he is watching the 
view screen.   the camera shows his face - full on - and he smiles and says Oh 
shit!  simply classic!

Fate.   



  

 

  














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RE: [scifinoir2] Is NBC's Merlin Any Good?

2009-08-27 Thread Martin Baxter

Agreed, Tracey. As I've said before (far too often), Head must be working on 
improvements to his house, to have taken that job. The two eps I looked in on, 
he was FedEx-ing his role in.

If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2009 23:28:27 -0700
Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Is NBC's Merlin Any Good?















 





  








It’s a waste of Buffy’s watcher’s talent.  We did not see all of
it either.  Returned to a rerun of something

 





From:
scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Keith
Johnson

Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 9:04 PM

To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com

Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Is NBC's Merlin Any Good?





 











Wow,
not one of y'all who responded gave it a ringing endorsement of any kind.



- Original Message -

From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com

To: SciFiNoir2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 7:20:16 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern

Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Is NBC's Merlin Any Good?



  







Keith, I've seen two eps of it, never all the way through. That's
the best review I can give it.



If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in
bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
















To:
scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com

From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net

Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2009 03:49:19 +

Subject: [scifinoir2] Is NBC's Merlin Any Good?



  







 



Anyone
watching Merlin? I believe former Buffy star Anthony
Head is one of the stars. I keep missing it. I've heard it's a lightweight
telling of the Arthurian era. Someone likened it to One Tree Hill
in the Middle Ages, or perhaps, the lighter aspects of Smallville
once all the youngsters took over.

I'm curious if it's worth a viewing?



http://www.nbc.com/merlin/



 



 







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RE: [scifinoir2] Samurai Jack Reruns on Boomerang

2009-08-27 Thread Martin Baxter

Can't agree more, Keith. I still can't quite get Boomerang on my set yet. The 
digital signal keeps popping in and out constantly. Comcrap says that they may 
have given us bad set-top boxes. *Four* of them...

(spit!)

If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 04:25:44 +
Subject: [scifinoir2] Samurai Jack Reruns on Boomerang















 





  
For the past couple of weeks I've been enjoying reruns of this, one of the 
greatest animated series I've ever seen. If you've never seen Samurai Jack, 
then do yourself a favor and check it out. Don't let the oddly flat looking 
animation throw you. Don't be turned off by the idea of a Samurai nicknamed 
Jack in a strange future. If you see a couple of eps that seem kinda silly or 
light, don't give up. Tartokovsky crafted an incredibly good show here, full of 
action, adventure, and some surprisingly effective drama. I can think of a 
couple of shows that literally had my mouth hanging open, and a couple that had 
me near misty eyed (see Jack battle the cursed Viking warrior for example).  
It's fun when they riff on that anime standard of characters freezing in 
moments of high action: you know, when a character delivers a fatal sword 
stroke, then freezes in that move, while the enemy dies, or explodes, as the 
case is here. There's good music, good writing, and memorable characters.

If Boomerang had to replace Justice League, this is one of the better choices 
to take its place.


 

  














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RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Eureka Thoughts - Joe Morton

2009-08-27 Thread Martin Baxter

D'OH! Completely *forgot* about Warehouse 13!

If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 04:20:25 +
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Eureka Thoughts - Joe Morton















 





  
The third Eureka star on the show. The actress who plays Jo, and the guy who 
plays her boyfriend were on last night. Great show by the way!

- Original Message -
From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 11:17:10 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Eureka Thoughts - Joe Morton







 





  Did anyone see the commercial for Warehouse 13's next 
episode? Joe Martin guest stars on it. 


On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 12:51 PM, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com 
wrote:


























Angela, that's a truly inspired thought.

If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik





To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: asrobin...@mindspring.com
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2009 14:15:37 +

Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Eureka Thoughts - Joe Morton















 





  I've been a fan since The Brother from Another Planet as 
well.



Was sorry to see him blow in T2.  Even when the wife appears in TSCC, you go 
back to the moment when he couldn't hold down that det switch any 
longer...maybe the Resistance finds his DNA in the future and brings him back 
to write the code needed to take out the Terminators?




--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@... wrote:



 

 As do I.

 

 In an entirely manly way, of course.

 

 If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
 hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

 

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik

 

 

 

 

 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com

 From: tdli...@...

 Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 17:29:15 -0700

 Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Eureka Thoughts - Joe Morton

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

  

 

 

 

 

 

   

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 Look ahead.  I LOVE JOE MORTON. 

 

  

 

 

 

 

 

 From:

 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of 
 Keith

 Johnson

 

 Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 2:42 PM

 

 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com

 

 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Eureka Thoughts - Joe Morton

 

 

 

 

 

  

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 Hey

 what gives? No other love for Joe Morton?

 

 

 

 Surely I can't the only one who's seen The Brother from Another Planet,

 or who likes John Sayles??  :(

 

 

 

 - Original Message -

 

 From: Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@...

 

 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com

 

 Sent: Monday, August 24, 2009 11:41:13 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern

 

 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Eureka Thoughts - Joe Morton

 

 

 

   

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 I

 can't stress enough how much Joe Morton brings to Eureka. Morton's

 one of those actors with a face and bearing you just trust and respect. He can

 play a likeable guy, a strong leader, a tortured and confused soul. I have

 followed him for years, whether it's been great turns in John Sayles

 flicks--and it's saying a lot that Morton is a fav of Sayles'--having the lead

 in the shortlived TV series Under One Roof, playing a memorable

 role as a former boxer turned transvestite on New York Undercover,

 or even his guest stint as Whitley's love interest on A Different

 World.  Even his bit in Terminator 2 is memorable. The

 anguish he feels at what his work has caused for the future is palpable, and I

 hated to see the character die. 

 

 

 

 It's a crime that Morton hasn't gotten the major roles and respect he 
 deserves.

 He's done a lot of stuff, but never got to that A-list on TV or film. And 
 while

 I'm really happy to see him get steady work on Eureka, and like the

 steadiness his character brings to that world, I keep hoping to see him get

 some meatier roles. That's especially true as long as the showrunners seem

 hesitant to give him a real life. Like I said, he's mayor now, but that 
 angle's

 not explored, and I really dislike them killing off Kim--twice.

 

 

 

 And for those of you young 'un's who don't understand my praise of Morton, do

 yourself a favor and look up his great performances in the movie City of

 Hope (a John Sayles joint), the shortlived but well done TV series

 Tribeca (which co-starred Carl Lumbly and Lawrence Fishburne), and

 especially, the classic Sayles' film The Brother From Another

 Planet. That last, in which Morton plays an alien slave on the run, is an

 amazing performance given that he

RE: [scifinoir2] Karen Sisko (was: Re: Basterds Take Box Office,District 9 Holds Strong)

2009-08-27 Thread Martin Baxter

Maybe that was *her* house-renovation role, because it was really an 
empty-basket role.

If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 04:07:08 +
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Karen Sisko (was: Re: Basterds Take Box 
Office,District 9 Holds Strong)















 





  
I agree. Whenever I see her in roles that don't showcase her major toughness 
and sexiness--like playing the wife in The One--I like her, but feel she's 
being underused. It'd be like Michele Forbes playing a  soccer mom.

- Original Message -
From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com
To: SciFiNoir2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 7:41:28 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Karen Sisko (was: Re: Basterds Take Box 
Office,District 9 Holds Strong)







 





  


What puts The Carla over the top for me is her mixture of looks, brains and 
intestinal fortitude in her roles.

If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik





To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2009 01:18:57 +
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Karen Sisko (was: Re: Basterds Take Box 
Office,District 9 Holds Strong)















 





  
I don't know from the pornstar. I love Rosario Dawson, but am not as hormonally 
fired up by her as the rest of you guys. Halle Berry is not bad, but she's 
another who's loin-exciting abilities i've never gotten. I just don't find her 
to be smokin' hot. 
But Gugino, man she has it in spades! I still enjoyed Karen Sisco, and think it 
would have gotten better with time.


- Original Message -
From: ravenadal ravena...@yahoo.com
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 5:55:52 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: [scifinoir2] Karen Sisko (was: Re: Basterds Take Box Office,District 
9 Holds Strong)







 





  Believe me, my love for Carla Gugino is only exceeded by my 
love for Halle Berry, Rosario Dawson and porn star Jasmine Cashmere (all of 
whom I will watch in ANYTHING).  I wanted to love Karen Sisko, I really 
did! I DVRed it and everything! I was rooting for Gugino.  I was rooting for 
Robert Forster.  Heck, I was rooting for Danny DeVito's production company. But 
I found it slow, plodding and, finally, unwatchable.  It had none of the nerve 
and verve of Out of Sight, which was primo, and, more importantly none of the 
chemistry George Clooney and Jennifer Lopez brought to the movie.



~(no)rave!



--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@... wrote:



 Dude! Rave is missing the boat on that one! :) 

 

 

 - Original Message - 

 From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@... 

 To: SciFiNoir2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 

 Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 2:20:17 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 

 Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Basterds Take Box Office,District 9 Holds 
 Strong 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 Loved it. Would have the DVD collection now, if not for a lack of money. Just 
 saw it at the Best Buy near my house. 

 

 If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
 hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant 

 

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik 

 

 

 

 

 

 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 

 From: keithbjohn...@... 

 Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 17:36:51 + 

 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Basterds Take Box Office,District 9 Holds 
 Strong 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 did you like Karen Sisco, Martin? 

 

 - Original Message - 

 From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@... 

 To: SciFiNoir2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 

 Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 1:22:45 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 

 Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Basterds Take Box Office,District 9 Holds 
 Strong 

 

 

 

 

 rave, those fantastic gams were on display a few times and, to be honest, 
 they couldn't flash them too much. Any more exposure, and menfolk might miss 
 out on a thing or three. 

 

 Like the rest of the story... 

 

 If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
 hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant 

 

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 

 From: ravena...@... 

 Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 16:41:14 + 

 Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Basterds Take Box Office,District 9 Holds Strong 

 

 

 

 

 While Stay Cool, is a decidedly inferior film to Get Shorty, my friends 
 and I have had hours of fun quoting lines from that movie: Don't give me no 
 damn gun! You know what I'm gonna do with it! 

 Stop hatin', start participatin'. Come

RE: [scifinoir2] Is NBC's Merlin Any Good?

2009-08-27 Thread Martin Baxter

Not a one... nay, nay, nay. -- from History of the World, Part One

If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 04:04:21 +
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Is NBC's Merlin Any Good?















 





  
Wow, not one of y'all who responded gave it a ringing endorsement of any kind.

- Original Message -
From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com
To: SciFiNoir2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 7:20:16 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Is NBC's Merlin Any Good?







 





  


Keith, I've seen two eps of it, never all the way through. That's the best 
review I can give it.

If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik





To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2009 03:49:19 +
Subject: [scifinoir2] Is NBC's Merlin Any Good?















 





  
Anyone watching Merlin? I believe former Buffy star Anthony Head is one of 
the stars. I keep missing it. I've heard it's a lightweight telling of the 
Arthurian era. Someone likened it to One Tree Hill in the Middle Ages, or 
perhaps, the lighter aspects of Smallville once all the youngsters took over.
I'm curious if it's worth a viewing?

http://www.nbc.com/merlin/


 

  














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RE: [scifinoir2] Is NBC's Merlin Any Good?

2009-08-27 Thread Martin Baxter

Not a one... nay, nay, nay. -- from History of the World, Part One

If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 04:04:21 +
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Is NBC's Merlin Any Good?















 





  
Wow, not one of y'all who responded gave it a ringing endorsement of any kind.

- Original Message -
From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com
To: SciFiNoir2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 7:20:16 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Is NBC's Merlin Any Good?







 





  


Keith, I've seen two eps of it, never all the way through. That's the best 
review I can give it.

If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik





To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2009 03:49:19 +
Subject: [scifinoir2] Is NBC's Merlin Any Good?















 





  
Anyone watching Merlin? I believe former Buffy star Anthony Head is one of 
the stars. I keep missing it. I've heard it's a lightweight telling of the 
Arthurian era. Someone likened it to One Tree Hill in the Middle Ages, or 
perhaps, the lighter aspects of Smallville once all the youngsters took over.
I'm curious if it's worth a viewing?

http://www.nbc.com/merlin/


 

  














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RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Eureka Thoughts - Joe Morton

2009-08-27 Thread Martin Baxter

No, Mr Worf. Somehow, sitting right here in front of my TV, with it on, I 
missed the show. I'll have to catch it tomorrow after Eureka.

If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: hellomahog...@gmail.com
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2009 20:17:10 -0700
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Eureka Thoughts - Joe Morton















 





  Did anyone see the commercial for Warehouse 13's next 
episode? Joe Martin guest stars on it. 


On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 12:51 PM, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com 
wrote:


























Angela, that's a truly inspired thought.

If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik





To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: asrobin...@mindspring.com
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2009 14:15:37 +

Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Eureka Thoughts - Joe Morton















 





  I've been a fan since The Brother from Another Planet as 
well.



Was sorry to see him blow in T2.  Even when the wife appears in TSCC, you go 
back to the moment when he couldn't hold down that det switch any 
longer...maybe the Resistance finds his DNA in the future and brings him back 
to write the code needed to take out the Terminators?




--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@... wrote:



 

 As do I.

 

 In an entirely manly way, of course.

 

 If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
 hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

 

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik

 

 

 

 

 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com

 From: tdli...@...

 Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 17:29:15 -0700

 Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Eureka Thoughts - Joe Morton

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

  

 

 

 

 

 

   

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 Look ahead.  I LOVE JOE MORTON. 

 

  

 

 

 

 

 

 From:

 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of 
 Keith

 Johnson

 

 Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 2:42 PM

 

 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com

 

 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Eureka Thoughts - Joe Morton

 

 

 

 

 

  

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 Hey

 what gives? No other love for Joe Morton?

 

 

 

 Surely I can't the only one who's seen The Brother from Another Planet,

 or who likes John Sayles??  :(

 

 

 

 - Original Message -

 

 From: Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@...

 

 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com

 

 Sent: Monday, August 24, 2009 11:41:13 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern

 

 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Eureka Thoughts - Joe Morton

 

 

 

   

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 I

 can't stress enough how much Joe Morton brings to Eureka. Morton's

 one of those actors with a face and bearing you just trust and respect. He can

 play a likeable guy, a strong leader, a tortured and confused soul. I have

 followed him for years, whether it's been great turns in John Sayles

 flicks--and it's saying a lot that Morton is a fav of Sayles'--having the lead

 in the shortlived TV series Under One Roof, playing a memorable

 role as a former boxer turned transvestite on New York Undercover,

 or even his guest stint as Whitley's love interest on A Different

 World.  Even his bit in Terminator 2 is memorable. The

 anguish he feels at what his work has caused for the future is palpable, and I

 hated to see the character die. 

 

 

 

 It's a crime that Morton hasn't gotten the major roles and respect he 
 deserves.

 He's done a lot of stuff, but never got to that A-list on TV or film. And 
 while

 I'm really happy to see him get steady work on Eureka, and like the

 steadiness his character brings to that world, I keep hoping to see him get

 some meatier roles. That's especially true as long as the showrunners seem

 hesitant to give him a real life. Like I said, he's mayor now, but that 
 angle's

 not explored, and I really dislike them killing off Kim--twice.

 

 

 

 And for those of you young 'un's who don't understand my praise of Morton, do

 yourself a favor and look up his great performances in the movie City of

 Hope (a John Sayles joint), the shortlived but well done TV series

 Tribeca (which co-starred Carl Lumbly and Lawrence Fishburne), and

 especially, the classic Sayles' film The Brother From Another

 Planet. That last, in which Morton plays an alien slave on the run, is an

 amazing performance given that he speaks not a word, and must convey 
 everything

 with just his facial expressions and body language.

 

 

 

 I wonder if the Eureka showrunners really understand what a great

 asset they have in Morton...?

 

 

 

 

 

 - Original Message -

 

 From: Tracey de Morsella tdli...@...

 

 To: scifinoir2

RE: [scifinoir2] An homage to Homer, African style

2009-08-27 Thread Martin Baxter

No, haven't seen that as yet. Sounds like a needed addition to the viewing 
schedule.

If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: hellomahog...@gmail.com
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2009 20:14:31 -0700
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] An homage to Homer, African style















 





  I doubt that Homer would mind at all. Have you seen the 
documentary on Seasame Street called The world according to Seasame street? 
It gives a fascinating glimpse into how political some governments get about 
things like kid's tv shows. The whole Tinky Winky gay thing comes to mind. 
There must have been a lot of dialog about the Simpsons. 


 


On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 12:48 PM, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com 
wrote:



























Would Homer really *mind* the change of beer?

If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik






To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: hellomahog...@gmail.com
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2009 10:26:47 -0700


Subject: [scifinoir2] An homage to Homer, African style















 





  










  





  (sorry no pic!)

An homage to Homer, African style












   






















  




LUANDA (Reuters) - An Angolan
advertising agency has given Homer Simpson and his family an African
makeover, raising eyebrows among fans of one of America's most
cherished sitcoms.



The Simpsons, broadcast in more than 90 countries, have always been
portrayed as yellow but the advertising agency, Executive Center in
Luanda, decided to turn them brown in a promotional video aired by
Africa's digital satellite TV service DSTV in Angola.



Homer, Marge, Lisa and Bart are portrayed as Africans sitting on
their over-used family couch. The family is shown wearing
African-inspired clothing and their living room has little more than
two huge loud speakers.



Even Homer's cherished beer has been replaced by Cuca, the Budweiser of Angola.



Couldn't they have left Marge's hair blue? said Ryan, a blogger,
in a post below a picture of Marge with a jet black afro hairdo.



The creative director of Executive Center, Antonio Pascoa, said:
Our goal was to adapt the satirical parody of the typical middle-class
American family to Angola.



If people don't like it than I guess they don't have a sense of humor big 
enough to enjoy the Simpsons.



(Reporting by Henrique Almeida)

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RE: [scifinoir2] An homage to Homer, African style

2009-08-27 Thread Martin Baxter

*Knew* those RSS tags up there would pay off...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1207968/Aye-carumba-The-Simpsons-makeover-African-show.html

If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: hellomahog...@gmail.com
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2009 20:08:27 -0700
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] An homage to Homer, African style















 





  Cool. I would love to see that. 


On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 7:15 PM, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com 
wrote:


























Mr Worf, I meant to chase this down today, but I've been too busy today. As 
soon as I do, I'll post it here.

If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com

From: hellomahog...@gmail.com
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2009 19:04:28 -0700
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] An homage to Homer, African style















 





  What I am curious about is did they color all of the 
characters? Like Mr.Burns and Moe? That has to be weird. 


On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 12:48 PM, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com 
wrote:



























Would Homer really *mind* the change of beer?

If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik






To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: hellomahog...@gmail.com
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2009 10:26:47 -0700


Subject: [scifinoir2] An homage to Homer, African style















 





  










  





  (sorry no pic!)

An homage to Homer, African style












   






















  




LUANDA (Reuters) - An Angolan
advertising agency has given Homer Simpson and his family an African
makeover, raising eyebrows among fans of one of America's most
cherished sitcoms.



The Simpsons, broadcast in more than 90 countries, have always been
portrayed as yellow but the advertising agency, Executive Center in
Luanda, decided to turn them brown in a promotional video aired by
Africa's digital satellite TV service DSTV in Angola.



Homer, Marge, Lisa and Bart are portrayed as Africans sitting on
their over-used family couch. The family is shown wearing
African-inspired clothing and their living room has little more than
two huge loud speakers.



Even Homer's cherished beer has been replaced by Cuca, the Budweiser of Angola.



Couldn't they have left Marge's hair blue? said Ryan, a blogger,
in a post below a picture of Marge with a jet black afro hairdo.



The creative director of Executive Center, Antonio Pascoa, said:
Our goal was to adapt the satirical parody of the typical middle-class
American family to Angola.



If people don't like it than I guess they don't have a sense of humor big 
enough to enjoy the Simpsons.



(Reporting by Henrique Almeida)

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[scifinoir2] Holy Casting Call, Batman!

2009-08-27 Thread Martin Baxter

Because you didn't ask for it... Megan Fox is being considered for the role of 
Catwoman in Christopher Nolan's next Bat-flick...

http://wonderwall.msn.com/movies/The-Shortlist-for-Aug-26-3865.gallery?GT1=28135#m=oZghMddAdLu

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RE: [scifinoir2] Suicidal planet seems on death spiral into star

2009-08-27 Thread Martin Baxter

Palin's World, anyone?

Seriously, fun stuff. I'm going to try to work it into a story I'm writing now.

If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: ravena...@yahoo.com
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 17:29:04 +
Subject: [scifinoir2] Suicidal planet seems on death spiral into star















 





  http://shuudu.notlong.com



Suicidal planet seems on death spiral into star



By SETH BORENSTEIN (AP) – 1 day ago



WASHINGTON — Astronomers have found what appears to be a gigantic suicidal 
planet.



The odd, fiery planet is so close to its star and so large that it is 
triggering tremendous plasma tides on the star. Those powerful tides are in 
turn warping the planet's zippy less-than-a-day orbit around its star.



The result: an ever-closer tango of death, with the planet eventually spiraling 
into the star.



It's a slow death. The planet WASP-18b has maybe a million years to live, said 
planet discoverer Coel Hellier, a professor of astrophysics at the Keele 
University in England. Hellier's report on the suicidal planet is in Thursday's 
issue of the journal Nature.



It's causing its own destruction by creating these tides, Hellier said.



The star is called WASP-18 and the planet is WASP-18b because of the Wide Angle 
Search for Planets team that found them.



The planet circles a star that is in the constellation Phoenix and is about 325 
light-years away from Earth, which means it is in our galactic neighborhood. A 
light-year is about 5.8 trillion miles.



The planet is 1.9 million miles from its star, 1/50th of the distance between 
Earth and the sun, our star. And because of that the temperature is about 3,800 
degrees.



Its size — 10 times bigger than Jupiter — and its proximity to its star make it 
likely to die, Hellier said.



Think of how the distant moon pulls Earth's oceans to form twice-daily tides. 
The effect the odd planet has on its star is thousands of times stronger, 
Hellier said. The star's tidal bulge of plasma may extend hundreds of miles, he 
said.



Like most planets outside our solar system, this planet was not seen directly 
by a telescope. Astronomers found it by seeing dips in light from the star 
every time the planet came between the star and Earth.



So far astronomers have found more than 370 planets outside the solar system. 
This one is yet another weird one in the exoplanet menagerie, said planet 
specialist Alan Boss of the Carnegie Institution of Washington.



It's so unusual to find a suicidal planet that University of Maryland 
astronomer Douglas Hamilton questioned whether there was another explanation. 
While it is likely that this is a suicidal planet, Hamilton said it is also 
possible that some basic physics calculations that all astronomers rely on 
could be dead wrong.



The answer will become apparent in less than a decade if the planet seems to be 
further in a death spiral, he said.





 

  














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RE: [scifinoir2] Welsley Crusher on Leverage

2009-08-27 Thread Martin Baxter

Slap me, but I've missed the demmed thing!

As for Wheaton, I saw him earlier this month on one of those VH-1 boomer 
retrospectives, and he didn't look as though he'd missed too many meals.

Mr Worf, I leave the punchline for this thread to you...

If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 10:21:03 -0700
Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Welsley Crusher on Leverage















 





  








Up until last night, HE WAS WESLEY CHRUSHER!!!  However, the big
burley man I saw, was no Wesley Crusher, so I will comply   :-)

 

 





From:
scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Daryle
Lockhart

Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 9:33 AM

To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com

Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Welsley Crusher on Leverage





 





LOL will we PLEASE stop calling that grown man Wesley  Crusher?!!



 





 





On Aug 27, 2009, at 12:11 PM, Tracey de Morsella wrote:









  





 





Did
anyone see Wesley Crusher on Leverage yesterday paying the hacker? I barely
recognized him

 

Tracey
de Morsella, Managing Producer

The
Green Economy Post

http://greeneconomypost.com

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RE: [scifinoir2] Eating while black in Atlanta

2009-08-27 Thread Martin Baxter

rave, I told you off-board that I rarely see much of this burgh, despite having 
lived here for chasing a quarter-century, and Ria's is a blast from the past. I 
used to eat there almost every morning, because I had a job at a small business 
about a block away from the place on Memorial. Guess I'll have to hop into my 
wayback machine now. Thanks for the tip!

If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: ravena...@yahoo.com
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 21:41:52 +
Subject: [scifinoir2] Eating while black in Atlanta















 





  http://eatingwhileblackatlanta.blogspot.com/





 

  














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RE: [scifinoir2] Holy Casting Call, Batman!

2009-08-27 Thread Martin Baxter

George, because Megan's somehow made herself the Flavor of the Year. And Chris 
Nolan apparently has hormones.

If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: brotherfromhow...@yahoo.com
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 09:29:18 -0700
Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Holy Casting Call, Batman!















 





  Why should there be a CW in this flick anyway?

--- On Thu, 8/27/09, Tracey de Morsella tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com 
wrote:


From: Tracey de Morsella tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com
Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Holy Casting Call, Batman!
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, August 27, 2009, 12:16 PM


  



Say it ain’t so.  After Michele Pfieffer, I need someone with some acting chops

 


From: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com [mailto:scifinoir2@ yahoogroups. com] On 
Behalf Of Martin Baxter
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 5:30 AM
To: SciFiNoir2
Subject: [scifinoir2] Holy Casting Call, Batman!
 


Because you didn't ask for it... Megan Fox is being considered for the role of 
Catwoman in Christopher Nolan's next Bat-flick...

http://wonderwall. msn.com/movies/ The-Shortlist- for-Aug-26- 3865.gallery? 
GT1=28135# m=oZghMddAdLu

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hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

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RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Eureka Thoughts - Joe Morton

2009-08-27 Thread Martin Baxter

The only reason I don't watch it after Eureka as offered is because of my 
health. I tire out more easily than I used to, and I'll nod off in my chair, 
missing the good stuff.

If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 09:14:09 -0700
Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Eureka Thoughts - Joe Morton















 





  








I like watching Warehouse with Eureka on Fridays.  Can’t wait to
see him back to back

 





From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Martin Baxter

Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 5:03 AM

To: SciFiNoir2

Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Eureka Thoughts - Joe Morton





 





D'OH! Completely *forgot* about Warehouse 13!



If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in
bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik















To:
scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com

From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net

Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 04:20:25 +

Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Eureka Thoughts - Joe Morton



  







 



The
third Eureka star on the show. The actress who plays Jo, and the
guy who plays her boyfriend were on last night. Great show by the way!



- Original Message -

From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com

To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 11:17:10 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern

Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Eureka Thoughts - Joe Morton



  







Did anyone see the commercial for Warehouse 13's next episode? Joe
Martin guest stars on it. 







On
Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 12:51 PM, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com
wrote:







Angela, that's a truly inspired thought.



If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in
bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik















To:
scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com

From: asrobin...@mindspring.com

Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2009 14:15:37 +

Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Eureka Thoughts - Joe Morton



  







I've been a fan since The Brother from Another Planet
as well.



Was sorry to see him blow in T2. Even when the wife appears in TSCC, you go
back to the moment when he couldn't hold down that det switch any
longer...maybe the Resistance finds his DNA in the future and brings him back
to write the code needed to take out the Terminators?



--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com,
Martin Baxter truthseeker...@... wrote:



 

 As do I.

 

 In an entirely manly way, of course.

 

 If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in
bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

 

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik

 

 

 

 

 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com

 From: tdli...@...

 Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 17:29:15 -0700

 Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Eureka Thoughts - Joe Morton

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 Look ahead. I LOVE JOE MORTON. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 From:

 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Keith

 Johnson

 

 Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 2:42 PM

 

 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com

 

 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Eureka Thoughts - Joe Morton

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 Hey

 what gives? No other love for Joe Morton?

 

 

 

 Surely I can't the only one who's seen The Brother from Another
Planet,

 or who likes John Sayles?? :(

 

 

 

 - Original Message -

 

 From: Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@...

 

 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com

 

 Sent: Monday, August 24, 2009 11:41:13 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern

 

 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Eureka Thoughts - Joe Morton

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 I

 can't stress enough how much Joe Morton brings to Eureka.
Morton's

 one of those actors with a face and bearing you just trust and respect. He
can

 play a likeable guy, a strong leader, a tortured and confused soul. I have

 followed him for years, whether it's been great turns in John Sayles

 flicks--and it's saying a lot that Morton is a fav of Sayles'--having the
lead

 in the shortlived TV series Under One Roof, playing a
memorable

 role as a former boxer turned transvestite on New York
Undercover,

 or even his guest stint as Whitley's love interest on A Different

 World. Even his bit in Terminator 2 is memorable. The

 anguish he feels at what his work has caused for the future is palpable,
and I

 hated to see the character die. 

 

 

 

 It's a crime that Morton hasn't gotten the major roles and respect he
deserves.

 He's done a lot of stuff, but never got to that A-list on TV or film. And
while

 I'm really happy to see him get steady work on Eureka, and
like

RE: [scifinoir2] Should Marvel try a reboot on Daredevil

2009-08-27 Thread Martin Baxter

SHH!

The Evil H'Wood Overlords LISTEN!!!

If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: efhay...@yahoo.com
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 15:38:20 +
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Should Marvel try a reboot on Daredevil















 





  
  YES! Make everyone forget about it  just like they pretended the Ang Lee 
Hulk never existed. But if not Afleck, the who? I vote for Matt Damon just to 
rub Afleck's nose in it.
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

From:  George Arterberry 
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 08:16:30 -0700 (PDT)
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [scifinoir2] Should Marvel try a reboot on Daredevil

 
Make it dark and  ignore the original mess with Jlo's former boy-toy?
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RE: [scifinoir2] Should Marvel try a reboot on Daredevil

2009-08-27 Thread Martin Baxter

(going catatonic at the thought)

If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: brotherfromhow...@yahoo.com
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 08:16:30 -0700
Subject: [scifinoir2] Should Marvel try a reboot on Daredevil















 





  
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RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Eureka Thoughts - Joe Morton

2009-08-27 Thread Martin Baxter

If the DirectTV guys ever get here, I'll have one of my own.

If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: hellomahog...@gmail.com
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 08:12:40 -0700
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Eureka Thoughts - Joe Morton















 





  I think you need Tivo! :) 


On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 5:16 AM, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com 
wrote:


























No, Mr Worf. Somehow, sitting right here in front of my TV, with it on, I 
missed the show. I'll have to catch it tomorrow after Eureka.

If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com

From: hellomahog...@gmail.com
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2009 20:17:10 -0700
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Eureka Thoughts - Joe Morton
















 





  Did anyone see the commercial for Warehouse 13's next 
episode? Joe Martin guest stars on it. 


On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 12:51 PM, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com 
wrote:



























Angela, that's a truly inspired thought.

If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik






To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: asrobin...@mindspring.com
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2009 14:15:37 +


Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Eureka Thoughts - Joe Morton















 





  I've been a fan since The Brother from Another Planet as 
well.



Was sorry to see him blow in T2.  Even when the wife appears in TSCC, you go 
back to the moment when he couldn't hold down that det switch any 
longer...maybe the Resistance finds his DNA in the future and brings him back 
to write the code needed to take out the Terminators?





--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@... wrote:



 

 As do I.

 

 In an entirely manly way, of course.

 

 If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
 hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

 

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik

 

 

 

 

 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com

 From: tdli...@...

 Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 17:29:15 -0700

 Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Eureka Thoughts - Joe Morton

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

  

 

 

 

 

 

   

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 Look ahead.  I LOVE JOE MORTON. 

 

  

 

 

 

 

 

 From:

 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of 
 Keith

 Johnson

 

 Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 2:42 PM

 

 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com

 

 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Eureka Thoughts - Joe Morton

 

 

 

 

 

  

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 Hey

 what gives? No other love for Joe Morton?

 

 

 

 Surely I can't the only one who's seen The Brother from Another Planet,

 or who likes John Sayles??  :(

 

 

 

 - Original Message -

 

 From: Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@...

 

 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com

 

 Sent: Monday, August 24, 2009 11:41:13 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern

 

 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Eureka Thoughts - Joe Morton

 

 

 

   

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 I

 can't stress enough how much Joe Morton brings to Eureka. Morton's

 one of those actors with a face and bearing you just trust and respect. He can

 play a likeable guy, a strong leader, a tortured and confused soul. I have

 followed him for years, whether it's been great turns in John Sayles

 flicks--and it's saying a lot that Morton is a fav of Sayles'--having the lead

 in the shortlived TV series Under One Roof, playing a memorable

 role as a former boxer turned transvestite on New York Undercover,

 or even his guest stint as Whitley's love interest on A Different

 World.  Even his bit in Terminator 2 is memorable. The

 anguish he feels at what his work has caused for the future is palpable, and I

 hated to see the character die. 

 

 

 

 It's a crime that Morton hasn't gotten the major roles and respect he 
 deserves.

 He's done a lot of stuff, but never got to that A-list on TV or film. And 
 while

 I'm really happy to see him get steady work on Eureka, and like the

 steadiness his character brings to that world, I keep hoping to see him get

 some meatier roles. That's especially true as long as the showrunners seem

 hesitant to give him a real life. Like I said, he's mayor now, but that 
 angle's

 not explored, and I really dislike them killing off Kim--twice.

 

 

 

 And for those of you young 'un's who don't understand my praise of Morton, do

 yourself a favor and look up his great performances in the movie City of

 Hope (a John Sayles joint), the shortlived but well

RE: [scifinoir2] An homage to Homer, African style

2009-08-27 Thread Martin Baxter

ZThat it is, Mr Worf. Now, if they'd do the rest of the cast...

If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: hellomahog...@gmail.com
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 08:08:57 -0700
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] An homage to Homer, African style















 





  Wow... surreal! :) 


On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 5:20 AM, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com 
wrote:


























*Knew* those RSS tags up there would pay off...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1207968/Aye-carumba-The-Simpsons-makeover-African-show.html


If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik





To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: hellomahog...@gmail.com
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2009 20:08:27 -0700

Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] An homage to Homer, African style















 





  Cool. I would love to see that. 


On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 7:15 PM, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com 
wrote:



























Mr Worf, I meant to chase this down today, but I've been too busy today. As 
soon as I do, I'll post it here.

If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com


From: hellomahog...@gmail.com
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2009 19:04:28 -0700
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] An homage to Homer, African style















 





  What I am curious about is did they color all of the 
characters? Like Mr.Burns and Moe? That has to be weird. 


On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 12:48 PM, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com 
wrote:




























Would Homer really *mind* the change of beer?

If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik







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Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2009 10:26:47 -0700



Subject: [scifinoir2] An homage to Homer, African style















 





  










  





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LUANDA (Reuters) - An Angolan
advertising agency has given Homer Simpson and his family an African
makeover, raising eyebrows among fans of one of America's most
cherished sitcoms.



The Simpsons, broadcast in more than 90 countries, have always been
portrayed as yellow but the advertising agency, Executive Center in
Luanda, decided to turn them brown in a promotional video aired by
Africa's digital satellite TV service DSTV in Angola.



Homer, Marge, Lisa and Bart are portrayed as Africans sitting on
their over-used family couch. The family is shown wearing
African-inspired clothing and their living room has little more than
two huge loud speakers.



Even Homer's cherished beer has been replaced by Cuca, the Budweiser of Angola.



Couldn't they have left Marge's hair blue? said Ryan, a blogger,
in a post below a picture of Marge with a jet black afro hairdo.



The creative director of Executive Center, Antonio Pascoa, said:
Our goal was to adapt the satirical parody of the typical middle-class
American family to Angola.



If people don't like it than I guess they don't have a sense of humor big 
enough to enjoy the Simpsons.



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RE: [scifinoir2] Re: TV Shows We Wish Would Swap Writing Staffs

2009-08-27 Thread Martin Baxter

A secretly cross-dressing Emperor Palpitine... a special ep featuring A Day in 
the Life of a Clone Trooper... Yoda and Master Windu having a night on the 
town in Coruscant... sells itself.

Martin (lamenting ownership of a soul, else he'd be on the phone with Messr 
Lucas right now)

If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: ravena...@yahoo.com
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 14:42:17 +
Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: TV Shows We Wish Would Swap Writing Staffs















 





  Oh!  That is wicked good!



~rave!



--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@... wrote:



 

 And I'll personally bank two seasons of Clone Wars as written by Hammer and 
 Publick.

 

 If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
 hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

 

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik

 

 

 

 

 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com; sincere1...@...; cinque3...@...; ggs...@...

 From: tdli...@...

 Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2009 23:53:44 -0700

 Subject: [scifinoir2] TV Shows We Wish Would Swap Writing Staffs

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

  

 

 

 

 

 

   

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 TV

 Shows We Wish Would Swap Writing Staffs

 

 By Charlie Jane

 Anders, 5:07

 PM

 

  

 

 We don't just love television for the special effects or crackerjack acting,

 but for the writing. That's where our heroes get their cool lines and defining

 moments. And sometimes we wonder: what'd happen if our fave shows swapped

 writing staffs?

 

 

 That's right — it's just like wife swappers, except it's writer

 swappers! So put the keys to the writers' room in a bowl, and let's get

 swinging...

 

 

 Lost and Supernatural

 

 In some ways these shows are opposites, even though they have so much in

 common — they both have long, pull-your-hair-out plots and complex

 characters who stray to the dark side regularly.

 

 

 But Supernatural keeps it lean and mean — you pretty much

 just have the Winchester brothers, and one to four supporting castmembers at

 any given time. And Supernatural's big mysteries are relatively few,

 and relatively straightforward: What did the yellow-eyed demon want with baby

 Sam? What does Ruby want with grown-up Sam? Why did the angels pull Dean out 
 of

 Hell? And we get answers to those questions on a regular basis. What's complex

 on Supernatural is the tangled theology of the Angel/Demon war. And

 few relationships on television are as barbed and complex as the troubled love

 between the two brothers.

 

 

 Lost, meanwhile, thrives on complexity — there are easily two

 dozen characters you're supposed to be keeping track of at any given moment,

 and oftentimes, they all seem to be equally important. The show's creators 
 have

 already told viewers not to expect answers to all the show's mysteries —

 You have to piece things together on your own, or just accept that some things

 are not knowable. Meanwhile, the show gives us characters whose family

 relationships are mostly dismal (except Hurley's, oddly) and whose

 relationships with each other are frequently defined somewhat 
 straightforwardly

 by rivalry, love triangles, or unrequited love.

 

 

 So we'd love to see the writers change places for a bit — the Supernatural

 writers could bring a bit of immediacy to Lost's slow-boiling

 storylines, and also show us a bit more of how all these people stuck on an

 island together have become each other's family, and have grown to love each

 other even as they piss each other off.

 

 

 And the Lost writers could give us a world of spirits and monsters

 that's foggier, and weirder, than Supernatural has ever quite given

 us. Imagine Supernatural with more weird clues, and more of a sense

 that there's a massive chess game going on in which the Winchester brothers 
 are

 just pawns. It could be quite a ride.

 

 

 Dollhouse and Torchwood

 

 These two shows both unkinked our brains, in different ways, last month. We

 finally got to see Dollhouse's unaired season finale, in which some

 brilliant new adaptations to the Dollhouse's business model end up destroying

 civilizaton itself. And Torchwood served up the shocking, twisted

 Children Of Earth miniseries, in which we find out just how

 valuable our children really are — and just how dark Captain Jack is

 prepared to get.

 

 

 These shows both operate in murky waters, with heroes who have huge dark

 sides and make difficult (and frequently wrong) choices. They're the dark side

 of escapism, showing how becoming part of a secret world of amazing tech and

 cool fantasies can be dreadful as well as wonderful. But Dollhouse is

 a good deal nastier than Torchwood, giving us a for-profit venture

 that is bent on making

RE: [scifinoir2] Leverage

2009-08-27 Thread Martin Baxter

(picking self up off floor)

Wheaton Da Man!

If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




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CC: blackscifihorrorfantasyc...@yahoogroups.com
From: jazzynupe_...@yahoo.com
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 07:18:02 -0700
Subject: [scifinoir2] Leverage















 





  Did anyone (other than me that is) watch Leverage last night? 
 Wil Wheaton played a hacker named - chaos and he was called - Kobayashi Maru.  

Fate.





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RE: [scifinoir2] Cake

2009-08-27 Thread Martin Baxter

LMNAATWO!!!

If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




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From: jazzynupe_...@yahoo.com
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 07:10:44 -0700
Subject: [scifinoir2] Cake















 





  
A HUSBAND IS AT HOME WATCHING A 
FOOTBALL GAME WHEN HIS WIFE INTERRUPTS, 

Honey, could you fix the light in the hallway?  It's been
flickering for weeks now.

He looks at her and says angrily,
Fix the lights now?  Does it look
like I have GE written on my forehead?
I don't think so

Fine, 
Then the wife asks,
Well then, could you fix the fridge door?
It won't close right.

To which he replied,
Fix the fridge door?
Does it look like I have Westinghouse
written on my forehead?
I don't think so.

Fine, she say,
Then you could at least fix the steps
to the front door?  They 
are about to break

I'm not a carpenter, and I don't 
want to fix steps he says,
Does it look like I
 have
Home Depot written on my forehead?
I don't think so! 
I've had enough of you,
I'm going to the bar! 

  He goes to the bar and drinks
for a couple of hours 

He starts to feel guilty about how 
he treated his wife, and decides
to go home. 

As he walks into the house,
he notices that the steps are
already fixed.

As he enters the house, 
he sees the hall light is working.

As he goes to get a beer, he notices
the fridge door is also fixed. 

Honey, he asks, how'd all this get fixed?

She says, Well, when you left, 
I sat outside and cried.
Just then, a nice young man asked 
me what was wrong,
and I told him.
He offered to do all the repairs, 
and all I had to do was either
go to bed with him or bake him a cake.

The husband said,
So what kind of cake did you bake?
 
She replied,
Helo,
do you see
 Betty Crocker written
on my forehead?  
I don't think so.

 





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RE: [scifinoir2] Holy Casting Call, Batman!

2009-08-27 Thread Martin Baxter

Judging from the responses, I'm surprised that no one petitioned Tracey to ban 
me from the group for posting this.

If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: adrianne.bren...@gmail.com
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 09:38:29 -0400
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Holy Casting Call, Batman!















 





  That would explain it--never seen either movie.
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Adrianne, she is the chick from Transformers 1  2

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Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Holy Casting Call, Batman!
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, August 27, 2009, 9:25 AM






 


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i really hope not!  she cannot act worth anything.  she is just eye candy.  
that's all.

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From: Mike Street streetforce1@ gmail.com


Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Holy Casting Call, Batman!


To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com
Date: Thursday, August 27, 2009, 8:49 AM



barf!  Megan Fox has to go.

On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 8:29 AM, Martin


Baxtertruthseeker013@ hotmail.com wrote:


 Because you didn't ask for it... Megan Fox is being considered for the role




 of Catwoman in
 Christopher Nolan's next Bat-flick...

 http://wonderwall. msn.com/movies/ The-Shortlist- for-Aug-26- 3865.gallery? 
 GT1=28135# m=oZghMddAdLu





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RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Samurai Jack Reruns on Boomerang

2009-08-27 Thread Martin Baxter

I do too.

If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: jazzynupe_...@yahoo.com
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 06:36:55 -0700
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Samurai Jack Reruns on Boomerang















 





  I MISS JUSTICE LEAGUE!

--- On Thu, 8/27/09, daikaiju66 daikaij...@yahoo.com wrote:

From: daikaiju66 daikaij...@yahoo.com
Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Samurai Jack Reruns on Boomerang
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, August 27, 2009, 9:23 AM






 


  Cool. There were quite a few episodes I never got to watch so 
now I can play catch up.



--- In scifino...@yahoogro ups.com, Martin Baxter truthseeker013@ ... wrote:



 

 Can't agree more, Keith. I still can't quite get Boomerang on my set yet. The 
 digital signal keeps popping in and out constantly. Comcrap says that they 
 may have given us bad set-top boxes. *Four* of them...

 

 (spit!)

 

 If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
 hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

 

 http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=fQUxw9aUVik

 

 

 

 

 To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com

 From: KeithBJohnson@ ...

 Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 04:25:44 +

 Subject: [scifinoir2] Samurai Jack Reruns on Boomerang

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

  

 

 

 

 

 

   

 For the past couple of weeks I've been enjoying reruns of this, one of the 
 greatest animated series I've ever seen. If you've never seen Samurai Jack, 
 then do yourself a favor and check it out. Don't let the oddly flat looking 
 animation throw you. Don't be turned off by the idea of a Samurai nicknamed 
 Jack in a strange future. If you see a couple of eps that seem kinda silly 
 or light, don't give up. Tartokovsky crafted an incredibly good show here, 
 full of action, adventure, and some surprisingly effective drama. I can think 
 of a couple of shows that literally had my mouth hanging open, and a couple 
 that had me near misty eyed (see Jack battle the cursed Viking warrior for 
 example).  It's fun when they riff on that anime standard of characters 
 freezing in moments of high action: you know, when a character delivers a 
 fatal sword stroke, then freezes in that move, while the enemy dies, or 
 explodes, as the case is here. There's good music, good
 writing, and memorable characters.

 

 If Boomerang had to replace Justice League, this is one of the better choices 
 to take its place.

 

 

  

 

   

 

 

 

   

   

   

   

 

 

   

 

 

   

   

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RE: [scifinoir2] Holy Casting Call, Batman!

2009-08-27 Thread Martin Baxter

And frankly, Fate, not that much of that. IMO, she's okay to look at for a 
couple of minutes. After that, my eyes automatically avert themselves. And I 
dare you to look at her thumbs without running away screaming...

If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: jazzynupe_...@yahoo.com
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 06:22:29 -0700
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Holy Casting Call, Batman!















 





  i really hope not!  she cannot act worth anything.  she is 
just eye candy.  that's all.

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From: Mike Street streetfor...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Holy Casting Call, Batman!
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, August 27, 2009, 8:49 AM

barf!  Megan Fox has to go.

On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 8:29 AM, Martin
Baxtertruthseeker...@hotmail.com wrote:


 Because you didn't ask for it... Megan Fox is being considered for the role
 of Catwoman in
 Christopher Nolan's next Bat-flick...

 http://wonderwall.msn.com/movies/The-Shortlist-for-Aug-26-3865.gallery?GT1=28135#m=oZghMddAdLu

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RE: [scifinoir2] Samurai Jack Reruns on Boomerang

2009-08-27 Thread Martin Baxter

One more reason why I'm moving away from their fine service. :P

If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: hellomahog...@gmail.com
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 15:24:43 -0700
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Samurai Jack Reruns on Boomerang















 





  They have been telling that lie for years. Their dvrs are hit 
and miss. I have gone through 3 or 4 since they started the service. 


On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 5:00 AM, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com 
wrote:


























Can't agree more, Keith. I still can't quite get Boomerang on my set yet. The 
digital signal keeps popping in and out constantly. Comcrap says that they may 
have given us bad set-top boxes. *Four* of them...


(spit!)

If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik





To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 04:25:44 +

Subject: [scifinoir2] Samurai Jack Reruns on Boomerang















 





  
For the past couple of weeks I've been enjoying reruns of this, one of the 
greatest animated series I've ever seen. If you've never seen Samurai Jack, 
then do yourself a favor and check it out. Don't let the oddly flat looking 
animation throw you. Don't be turned off by the idea of a Samurai nicknamed 
Jack in a strange future. If you see a couple of eps that seem kinda silly or 
light, don't give up. Tartokovsky crafted an incredibly good show here, full of 
action, adventure, and some surprisingly effective drama. I can think of a 
couple of shows that literally had my mouth hanging open, and a couple that had 
me near misty eyed (see Jack battle the cursed Viking warrior for example).  
It's fun when they riff on that anime standard of characters freezing in 
moments of high action: you know, when a character delivers a fatal sword 
stroke, then freezes in that move, while the enemy dies, or explodes, as the 
case is here. There's good music, good writing, and memorable characters.


If Boomerang had to replace Justice League, this is one of the better choices 
to take its place.


 

  














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RE: [scifinoir2] Holy Casting Call, Batman!

2009-08-28 Thread Martin Baxter

Tracey, I read this and laughed derisively. No reflection on you, I assure you 
-- merely my inner cynic gaining its voice.

If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 23:42:21 -0700
Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Holy Casting Call, Batman!















 





  








I did not like the casting at first, but for me, you described
Michele Pfeiffer’s portrayal of Catwoman.   I thought she really delivered.  I
wish Nolan would tuck away his gonads and hire an acting heavyweight with a
nice body who is not the flavor of the week

 





From:
scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Keith
Johnson

Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 8:19 PM

To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com

Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Holy Casting Call, Batman!





 











that's
my feeling. I can only see Catwoman work if she's the more dangerous, world
weary, slightly abused one from the reboot after the Crisis. I could see a
storyline where she and Bruce--who's still on the run and hunted as
Batman--become kindred souls who lean on each other. Not so much for mutual
support, but more like falling together because they're both damaged and messed
up--like two drug users becoming lovers. I see a Catwoman who's frankly not
even necessarily all that beautiful--at least, not anymore. Maybe someone who's
so ravaged by life that her beauty is just below the surface.

Nothing in that says Meagan Fox...



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Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 12:29:18 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern

Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Holy Casting Call, Batman!



  








 
  
  Why should
  there be a CW in this flick anyway?

  

  --- On Thu, 8/27/09, Tracey de Morsella tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com
  wrote:
  

  From: Tracey de Morsella tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com

  Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Holy Casting Call, Batman!

  To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com

  Date: Thursday, August 27, 2009, 12:16 PM
  

  
  
  
  Say it ain’t so.  After Michele
  Pfieffer, I need someone with some acting chops
  
   
  
  
  
  From:
  scifino...@yahoogro ups.com [mailto:scifinoir2@ yahoogroups. com] On
  Behalf Of Martin Baxter

  Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 5:30 AM

  To: SciFiNoir2

  Subject: [scifinoir2] Holy Casting Call, Batman!
  
  
  
   
  
  

  

  Because you didn't ask for it... Megan Fox is being considered for the role
  of Catwoman in Christopher Nolan's next Bat-flick...

  

  http://wonderwall. msn.com/movies/ The-Shortlist- for-Aug-26-
  3865.gallery? GT1=28135# m=oZghMddAdLu

  

  If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in
  bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

  

  http://www.youtube.
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RE: [scifinoir2] OT: Madonna Booed for Condeming Discrimination Against Roma

2009-08-28 Thread Martin Baxter

Keith, I'll answer you with very little. Humanity=pathetic.

If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2009 05:05:58 +
Subject: [scifinoir2] OT: Madonna Booed for Condeming Discrimination Against 
Roma















 





  
Sad. I wonder how many Americans know anything about the Roma, outside of what 
they've seen in movies?

***
http://omg.yahoo.com/news/madonna-booed-in-bucharest-for-defending-gypsies/26947?nc

BUCHAREST, Romania - At first, fans politely applauded the Roma performers 
sharing a stage with Madonna. Then the pop star 
condemned widespread discrimination against Roma, or Gypsies — and 
the cheers gave way to jeers.

The sharp mood change that swept the crowd of 60,000, who had packed a park 
for Wednesday night's concert, underscores how prejudice against Gypsies 
remains 
deeply entrenched across Eastern Europe.

Despite long-standing efforts to stamp out rampant bias, human rights 
advocates say Roma probably suffer more humiliation and endure more 
discrimination than any other people group on the continent.

Sometimes, it can be deadly: In neighboring Hungary, six Roma 
have been killed and several wounded in a recent series of apparently racially 
motivated attacks targeting small countryside villages predominantly settled by 
Gypsies.

There is generally widespread resentment against Gypsies in Eastern Europe. 
They have historically been the underdog, Radu Motoc, an official with the 
Soros Foundation Romania, said Thursday.

Roma, or Gypsies, are a nomadic ethnic group believed to have their roots in 
the Indian subcontinent. They live mostly in southern and eastern 
Europe, but hundreds of thousands have migrated west over the past few decades 
in search of jobs and better living conditions.

Romania has the largest number of Roma in the region. Some say 
the population could be as high as 2 million, although official data put it at 
500,000.

Until the 19th century, Romanian Gypsies were slaves, and 
they've gotten a mixed response ever since: While discrimination is widespread, 
many East Europeans are enthusiastic about Gypsy music and dance, which they 
embrace as part of the region's cultural heritage.

That explains why the Roma musicians and a dancer who had briefly joined 
Madonna 
onstage got enthusiastic applause. And it also may explain why some in the 
crowd 
turned on Madonna when she 
paused during the two-hour show — a stop on her worldwide Sticky and Sweet 
tour — to touch on their plight.

It has been brought to my attention ... that there is a lot of 
discrimination against Romanies and Gypsies in general in Eastern Europe, she 
said. It made me feel very sad.

Thousands booed and jeered her.

A few cheered when she added: We don't believe in discrimination ... we 
believe in freedom and equal rights for everyone. But she got more boos when 
she mentioned discrimination against homosexuals and others.

I jeered her because it seemed false what she was telling us. What business 
does she have telling us these things? said Ionut Dinu, 23.

Madonna did not react 
and carried on with her concert, held near the hulking palace of the late 
communist dictator Nicolae Ceausescu.

Her publicist, Liz Rosenberg, said Madonna and other had told her 
there were cheers as well as jeers.

Madonna has been 
touring with a phenomenal troupe of Roma musicians who made her aware of the 
discrimination toward them in several countries so she felt compelled to make a 
brief statement, Rosenberg said in an e-mail. She will not be issuing a 
further statement.

One Roma musician said the attitude toward Gypsies is contradictory.

Romanians watch Gypsy soap operas, they like Gypsy music and go to Gypsy 
concerts, said Damian Draghici, a Grammy Award-winner who has performed with 
James 
Brown and Joe Cocker. 

But there has been a wave of aggression against Roma people in Italy, 
Hungary and Romania, which shows me something is not 
OK, he told the AP in an interview. The politicians have to do something 
about 
it. People have to be educated not to be prejudiced. All people are equal, and 
that is the message politicians must give. 

Nearly one in two of Europe's estimated 12 million Roma claimed 
to have suffered an act of discrimination over the past 12 months, according to 
a recent report by the Vienna-based EU Fundamental Rights Agency. The group 
says 
Roma face overt discrimination in housing, health care and education. 

Many do not have official identification, which means they cannot get social 
benefits, are undereducated and struggle to find decent jobs. 

Roma children are more likely to drop out of school than their peers from 
other ethnic groups. Many Romanians label Gypsies as thieves, 

RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Eureka Thoughts - Joe Morton

2009-08-28 Thread Martin Baxter

No. Very often, if I didn't catch them the first time around, I waited up for 
the re-airing a couple of hours later. If I missed that, then I had to wait 
until the ep cycled back around.

If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2009 03:22:59 +
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Eureka Thoughts - Joe Morton















 





  
so, did you record Stargate Atlantis, BSG, and Sanctuary when they were on?

- Original Message -
From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com
To: SciFiNoir2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 5:54:43 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Eureka Thoughts - Joe Morton







 





  


The only reason I don't watch it after Eureka as offered is because of my 
health. I tire out more easily than I used to, and I'll nod off in my chair, 
missing the good stuff.

If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik





To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 09:14:09 -0700
Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Eureka Thoughts - Joe Morton















 





  








I like watching Warehouse with Eureka on Fridays.  Can’t wait to
see him back to back

 





From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Martin Baxter

Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 5:03 AM

To: SciFiNoir2

Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Eureka Thoughts - Joe Morton





 





D'OH! Completely *forgot* about Warehouse 13!



If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in
bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik















To:
scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com

From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net

Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 04:20:25 +

Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Eureka Thoughts - Joe Morton



  







 



The
third Eureka star on the show. The actress who plays Jo, and the
guy who plays her boyfriend were on last night. Great show by the way!



- Original Message -

From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com

To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 11:17:10 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern

Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Eureka Thoughts - Joe Morton



  







Did anyone see the commercial for Warehouse 13's next episode? Joe
Martin guest stars on it. 







On
Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 12:51 PM, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com
wrote:







Angela, that's a truly inspired thought.



If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in
bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik















To:
scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com

From: asrobin...@mindspring.com

Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2009 14:15:37 +

Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Eureka Thoughts - Joe Morton



  







I've been a fan since The Brother from Another Planet
as well.



Was sorry to see him blow in T2. Even when the wife appears in TSCC, you go
back to the moment when he couldn't hold down that det switch any
longer...maybe the Resistance finds his DNA in the future and brings him back
to write the code needed to take out the Terminators?



--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com,
Martin Baxter truthseeker...@... wrote:



 

 As do I.

 

 In an entirely manly way, of course.

 

 If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in
bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

 

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik

 

 

 

 

 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com

 From: tdli...@...

 Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 17:29:15 -0700

 Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Eureka Thoughts - Joe Morton

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 Look ahead. I LOVE JOE MORTON. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 From:

 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Keith

 Johnson

 

 Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 2:42 PM

 

 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com

 

 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Eureka Thoughts - Joe Morton

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 Hey

 what gives? No other love for Joe Morton?

 

 

 

 Surely I can't the only one who's seen The Brother from Another
Planet,

 or who likes John Sayles?? :(

 

 

 

 - Original Message -

 

 From: Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@...

 

 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com

 

 Sent: Monday, August 24, 2009 11:41:13 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern

 

 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Eureka Thoughts - Joe Morton

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 I

 can't stress enough how much Joe Morton brings to Eureka.
Morton's

 one

RE: [scifinoir2] Holy Casting Call, Batman!

2009-08-28 Thread Martin Baxter

As always, perfect sense in those words.

If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2009 03:19:22 +
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Holy Casting Call, Batman!















 





  
that's my feeling. I can only see Catwoman work if she's the more dangerous, 
world weary, slightly abused one from the reboot after the Crisis. I could see 
a storyline where she and Bruce--who's still on the run and hunted as 
Batman--become kindred souls who lean on each other. Not so much for mutual 
support, but more like falling together because they're both damaged and messed 
up--like two drug users becoming lovers. I see a Catwoman who's frankly not 
even necessarily all that beautiful--at least, not anymore. Maybe someone who's 
so ravaged by life that her beauty is just below the surface.
Nothing in that says Meagan Fox...

- Original Message -
From: George Arterberry brotherfromhow...@yahoo.com
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 12:29:18 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Holy Casting Call, Batman!







 





  Why should there be a CW in this flick anyway?

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wrote:


From: Tracey de Morsella tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com
Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Holy Casting Call, Batman!
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, August 27, 2009, 12:16 PM


  



Say it ain’t so.  After Michele Pfieffer, I need someone with some acting chops

 


From: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com [mailto:scifinoir2@ yahoogroups. com] On 
Behalf Of Martin Baxter
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 5:30 AM
To: SciFiNoir2
Subject: [scifinoir2] Holy Casting Call, Batman!
 


Because you didn't ask for it... Megan Fox is being considered for the role of 
Catwoman in Christopher Nolan's next Bat-flick...

http://wonderwall. msn.com/movies/ The-Shortlist- for-Aug-26- 3865.gallery? 
GT1=28135# m=oZghMddAdLu

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RE: [scifinoir2] Holy Casting Call, Batman!

2009-08-28 Thread Martin Baxter

(standing ovation, while LNAO @ Keith calling Fox a child)

If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2009 03:08:01 +
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Holy Casting Call, Batman!















 





  
You know my feelings about stunt casting. I'm not convinced the child can act, 
and I sure as hell don't want her slinking on the screen just looking good in a 
catsuit. Catwoman is--should be--a more complex, nuanced character. Despite the 
Julie Newmar/Eartha Kitt/Lee Meriwether/Halle Berry portrayals, her character 
can be fascinating. I'm looking for something more like the Catwoman from the 
Year One books after the DC Universe reboot brought on by the Crisis on 
Infinite Earths.

Chris Nolan has mostly done great casting the Bat movies--with the horrible 
exception of Katie Holmes. I hope this is just gossip and he's not going to do 
this. Even if Catwoman is in the movie--and you know my vote is for Talia Al 
ghul instead--I'd hope he goes with a relative unknown actress who can actually 
bring some meat to the role.

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To: SciFiNoir2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 8:29:57 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: [scifinoir2] Holy Casting Call, Batman!







 





  


Because you didn't ask for it... Megan Fox is being considered for the role of 
Catwoman in Christopher Nolan's next Bat-flick...

http://wonderwall.msn.com/movies/The-Shortlist-for-Aug-26-3865.gallery?GT1=28135#m=oZghMddAdLu

If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
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RE: [scifinoir2] Star Trek Generation

2009-08-28 Thread Martin Baxter

Keith, until that movie, I always took it as given that shields were on a 
cyclic frequency rotation, as Trek did when dealing with the Borg.

If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2009 02:58:03 +
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Star Trek Generation















 





  
Good scene. But I could never cotton with the whole way the Klingons penetrated 
the shields. Since when do you need to see a shield frequency on a console in 
order to determine what it is? Surely a simple scan could detect shield 
frequencies, just as sensors can always report that a ship brings up its 
shields in the first place. I also don't understand how simply matching 
frequencies allows a torpedo through. If it were that easy, all space battles 
in the Trek universe would be short and sweet: simply scan the frequency, set 
the weapon and poof! Shields are bypassed.

Okay, enough of the buzz kill!


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From: Augustus Augustus jazzynupe_...@yahoo.com
To: Sci Fi scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Cc: Black SciFi blackscifihorrorfantasyc...@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 7:22:42 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: [scifinoir2] Star Trek Generation







 





  Sitting here drinking my morning coffee getting ready 4 work 
and watching 'Star Trek: Generations' on HBO2.  The saucer section separates 
from the star drive section as the warp core breeches.  the resulting shock 
wave knocks the saucer section out of orbit and into the atmosphere.  then u 
get classic Data.  he has the emotion chip activated and he is watching the 
view screen.   the camera shows his face - full on - and he smiles and says Oh 
shit!  simply classic!

Fate.   



  

 

  












 

  














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RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Eureka Thoughts - Joe Morton

2009-08-28 Thread Martin Baxter

No, Tracey, but I won't think any *more* of them. I won't hesitate to steer 
people away from their service. (Or lack thereof, rather.)

If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 19:42:38 -0700
Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Eureka Thoughts - Joe Morton















 





  








I guess you won’t be spitting at Comcrap anymore

 





From:
scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Martin
Baxter

Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 3:02 PM

To: SciFiNoir2

Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Eureka Thoughts - Joe Morton





 





If the DirectTV guys ever get here, I'll have one of my own.



If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in
bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik















To:
scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com

From: hellomahog...@gmail.com

Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 08:12:40 -0700

Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Eureka Thoughts - Joe Morton



  







I think you need Tivo! :) 







On
Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 5:16 AM, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com
wrote:







No, Mr Worf. Somehow, sitting right here in front of my TV, with it on, I
missed the show. I'll have to catch it tomorrow after Eureka.







If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in
bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik















To:
scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com



From:
hellomahog...@gmail.com

Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2009 20:17:10 -0700







Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Eureka Thoughts - Joe Morton



  















Did anyone see the commercial for Warehouse
13's next episode? Joe Martin guest stars on it. 







On
Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 12:51 PM, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com
wrote:







Angela, that's a truly inspired thought.



If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in
bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik















To:
scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com

From: asrobin...@mindspring.com

Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2009 14:15:37 +

Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Eureka Thoughts - Joe Morton



  







I've been a fan since The Brother
from Another Planet as well.



Was sorry to see him blow in T2. Even when the wife appears in TSCC, you go
back to the moment when he couldn't hold down that det switch any longer...maybe
the Resistance finds his DNA in the future and brings him back to write the
code needed to take out the Terminators?



--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com,
Martin Baxter truthseeker...@... wrote:



 

 As do I.

 

 In an entirely manly way, of course.

 

 If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in
bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

 

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik

 

 

 

 

 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com

 From: tdli...@...

 Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 17:29:15 -0700

 Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Eureka Thoughts - Joe Morton

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 Look ahead. I LOVE JOE MORTON. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 From:

 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Keith

 Johnson

 

 Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 2:42 PM

 

 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com

 

 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Eureka Thoughts - Joe Morton

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 Hey

 what gives? No other love for Joe Morton?

 

 

 

 Surely I can't the only one who's seen The Brother from Another
Planet,

 or who likes John Sayles?? :(

 

 

 

 - Original Message -

 

 From: Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@...

 

 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com

 

 Sent: Monday, August 24, 2009 11:41:13 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern

 

 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Eureka Thoughts - Joe Morton

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 I

 can't stress enough how much Joe Morton brings to Eureka.
Morton's

 one of those actors with a face and bearing you just trust and respect. He
can

 play a likeable guy, a strong leader, a tortured and confused soul. I have

 followed him for years, whether it's been great turns in John Sayles

 flicks--and it's saying a lot that Morton is a fav of Sayles'--having the
lead

 in the shortlived TV series Under One Roof, playing a
memorable

 role as a former boxer turned transvestite on New York
Undercover,

 or even his guest stint as Whitley's love interest on A Different

 World. Even his bit in Terminator 2 is memorable. The

 anguish he feels at what his work has caused for the future is palpable,
and I

 hated to see the character die. 

 

 

 

 It's a crime that Morton hasn't gotten the major roles and respect

RE: [scifinoir2] Samurai Jack Reruns on Boomerang

2009-08-28 Thread Martin Baxter

As do I, Mr Worf.

If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: hellomahog...@gmail.com
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 17:05:52 -0700
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Samurai Jack Reruns on Boomerang















 





  I want to know when there will be a valid competitor that 
will put them out of their misery. 


On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 4:47 PM, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com 
wrote:


























One more reason why I'm moving away from their fine service. :P

If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com

From: hellomahog...@gmail.com
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 15:24:43 -0700
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Samurai Jack Reruns on Boomerang















 





  They have been telling that lie for years. Their dvrs are hit 
and miss. I have gone through 3 or 4 since they started the service. 


On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 5:00 AM, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com 
wrote:



























Can't agree more, Keith. I still can't quite get Boomerang on my set yet. The 
digital signal keeps popping in and out constantly. Comcrap says that they may 
have given us bad set-top boxes. *Four* of them...



(spit!)

If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik






To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 04:25:44 +


Subject: [scifinoir2] Samurai Jack Reruns on Boomerang















 





  
For the past couple of weeks I've been enjoying reruns of this, one of the 
greatest animated series I've ever seen. If you've never seen Samurai Jack, 
then do yourself a favor and check it out. Don't let the oddly flat looking 
animation throw you. Don't be turned off by the idea of a Samurai nicknamed 
Jack in a strange future. If you see a couple of eps that seem kinda silly or 
light, don't give up. Tartokovsky crafted an incredibly good show here, full of 
action, adventure, and some surprisingly effective drama. I can think of a 
couple of shows that literally had my mouth hanging open, and a couple that had 
me near misty eyed (see Jack battle the cursed Viking warrior for example).  
It's fun when they riff on that anime standard of characters freezing in 
moments of high action: you know, when a character delivers a fatal sword 
stroke, then freezes in that move, while the enemy dies, or explodes, as the 
case is here. There's good music, good writing, and memorable characters.



If Boomerang had to replace Justice League, this is one of the better choices 
to take its place.


 

  














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RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Holy Casting Call, Batman!

2009-08-28 Thread Martin Baxter

All part of the process.

If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: ravena...@yahoo.com
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2009 14:53:14 +
Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Holy Casting Call, Batman!















 





  I thought that was what casting couches were for.



~rave!



--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@... wrote:



 

 George, because Megan's somehow made herself the Flavor of the Year. And 
 Chris Nolan apparently has hormones.

 

 If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
 hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

 

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik

 

 

 

 

 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com

 From: brotherfromhow...@...

 Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 09:29:18 -0700

 Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Holy Casting Call, Batman!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

  

 

 

 

 

 

   Why should there be a CW in this flick anyway?

 

 --- On Thu, 8/27/09, Tracey de Morsella tdli...@... wrote:

 

 

 From: Tracey de Morsella tdli...@...

 Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Holy Casting Call, Batman!

 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com

 Date: Thursday, August 27, 2009, 12:16 PM

 

 

   

 

 

 

 Say it ain't so.  After Michele Pfieffer, I need someone with some acting 
 chops

 

  

 

 

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 Behalf Of Martin Baxter

 Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 5:30 AM

 To: SciFiNoir2

 Subject: [scifinoir2] Holy Casting Call, Batman!

  

 

 

 Because you didn't ask for it... Megan Fox is being considered for the role 
 of Catwoman in Christopher Nolan's next Bat-flick...

 

 http://wonderwall. msn.com/movies/ The-Shortlist- for-Aug-26- 3865.gallery? 
 GT1=28135# m=oZghMddAdLu

 

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 hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

 

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RE: [scifinoir2] Star Trek Generation

2009-08-28 Thread Martin Baxter

I'm with you on that, Fate.

If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: jazzynupe_...@yahoo.com
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2009 06:58:33 -0700
Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Star Trek Generation















 





  George,

how could u say that?  how could u not feel touched when Picard got the news of 
his brother and nephew?  when he was discussing it with Troi.  Patrick showed 
that he is a real Thespian in those scene's?  i even enjoyed the banter between 
Kirk and Chekov when Chekov introduced him 2 Sulu's daughter.  when he and kirk 
were alone, Pavel says I was never that young and Kirk shoots back, no, you 
were younger.  that was also classic.  now, back to Picard.  when he was in 
the nexus, the joy on his face.  the emotion he showed when he for a moment 
thought that he really could have a family.  come on George, it was a few 
really good, sorry, your word, decent scenes in this one.

Fate.

--- On Thu, 8/27/09, George Arterberry brotherfromhow...@yahoo.com
 wrote:

From: George Arterberry brotherfromhow...@yahoo.com
Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Star Trek Generation
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, August 27, 2009, 11:14 AM






 


  Only decent part of the movie.That and Starfleet  ships at 
the end doing the cleanup effort.

--- On Thu, 8/27/09, Martin Baxter truthseeker013@ hotmail.com wrote:


From: Martin Baxter truthseeker013@ hotmail.com
Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Star Trek Generation
To: SciFiNoir2 scifino...@yahoogro ups.com
Date: Thursday, August 27, 2009, 7:49 AM


  

Makes me smile every time, Fate.

If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=fQUxw9aUVik






To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com
CC: blackscifihorrorfan tasyclub@ yahoogroups. com
From: jazzynupe_007@ yahoo.com
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 04:22:42 -0700
Subject: [scifinoir2] Star Trek Generation

  






Sitting here drinking my morning coffee getting ready 4 work and watching 'Star 
Trek: Generations' on HBO2.  The saucer section separates from the star drive 
section as the warp core breeches.  the resulting shock wave knocks the saucer 
section out of orbit and into the atmosphere.  then u get classic Data.  he has 
the emotion chip activated and he is watching the view screen.   the camera 
shows his face - full on - and he smiles and says Oh shit!  simply classic!

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RE: [scifinoir2] OT: Madonna Booed for Condeming Discrimination Against Roma

2009-08-28 Thread Martin Baxter

I've seen it first-hand as well, George, when, back in my Salad Daze, I 
traveled Europe frequently.

If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: brotherfromhow...@yahoo.com
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2009 06:54:51 -0700
Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] OT: Madonna Booed for Condeming Discrimination 
Against Roma















 





  While stationed in Bosnia/Croatia/Hungary I saw the pure hate 
directed towards them .
--- On Fri, 8/28/09, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com wrote:


From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com
Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] OT: Madonna Booed for Condeming Discrimination 
Against Roma
To: SciFiNoir2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, August 28, 2009, 8:20 AM


  

Keith, I'll answer you with very little. Humanity=pathetic.

If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=fQUxw9aUVik






To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com
From: KeithBJohnson@ comcast.net
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2009 05:05:58 +
Subject: [scifinoir2] OT: Madonna Booed for Condeming Discrimination Against 
Roma

  




Sad. I wonder how many Americans know anything about the Roma, outside of what 
they've seen in movies?

 * * * * ***
http://omg.yahoo. com/news/ madonna-booed- in-bucharest- for-defending- 
gypsies/26947? nc

BUCHAREST, Romania - At first, fans politely applauded the Roma performers 
sharing a stage with Madonna. Then the pop star condemned widespread 
discrimination against Roma, or Gypsies — and the cheers gave way to jeers.
The sharp mood change that swept the crowd of 60,000, who had packed a park for 
Wednesday night's concert, underscores how prejudice against Gypsies remains 
deeply entrenched across Eastern Europe.
Despite long-standing efforts to stamp out rampant bias, human rights advocates 
say Roma probably
 suffer more humiliation and endure more discrimination than any other people 
group on the continent.
Sometimes, it can be deadly: In neighboring Hungary, six Roma have been killed 
and several wounded in a recent series of apparently racially motivated attacks 
targeting small countryside villages predominantly settled by Gypsies.
There is generally widespread resentment against Gypsies in Eastern Europe. 
They have historically been the underdog, Radu Motoc, an official with the 
Soros Foundation Romania, said Thursday.
Roma, or Gypsies, are a nomadic ethnic group believed to have their roots in 
the Indian subcontinent. They live mostly in southern and eastern Europe, but 
hundreds of thousands have migrated west over the past few decades in search of 
jobs and better living conditions.
Romania has the largest number of Roma in the region. Some say the population 
could be as high as 2 million, although
 official data put it at 500,000.
Until the 19th century, Romanian Gypsies were slaves, and they've gotten a 
mixed response ever since: While discrimination is widespread, many East 
Europeans are enthusiastic about Gypsy music and dance, which they embrace as 
part of the region's cultural heritage.
That explains why the Roma musicians and a dancer who had briefly joined 
Madonna onstage got enthusiastic applause. And it also may explain why some in 
the crowd turned on Madonna when she paused during the two-hour show — a stop 
on her worldwide Sticky and Sweet tour — to touch on their plight.
It has been brought to my attention ... that there is a lot of discrimination 
against Romanies and Gypsies in general in Eastern Europe, she said. It made 
me feel very
 sad.
Thousands booed and jeered her.
A few cheered when she added: We don't believe in discrimination ... we 
believe in freedom and equal rights for everyone. But she got more boos when 
she mentioned discrimination against homosexuals and others.
I jeered her because it seemed false what she was telling us. What business 
does she have telling us these things? said Ionut Dinu, 23.
Madonna did not react and carried on with her concert, held near the hulking 
palace of the late communist dictator Nicolae Ceausescu.
Her publicist, Liz Rosenberg, said Madonna and other had told her there were 
cheers as well as jeers.
Madonna has been touring with a phenomenal troupe of Roma musicians who made 
her
 aware of the discrimination toward them in several countries so she felt 
compelled to make a brief statement, Rosenberg said in an e-mail. She will 
not be issuing a further statement.
One Roma musician said the attitude toward Gypsies is contradictory.
Romanians watch Gypsy soap operas, they like Gypsy music and go to Gypsy 
concerts, said Damian Draghici, a Grammy Award-winner who has performed with 
James Brown and Joe Cocker. 
But there has been a wave of aggression against Roma people in Italy

RE: [scifinoir2] Star Trek Generation

2009-08-28 Thread Martin Baxter

It does, Fate.

If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: jazzynupe_...@yahoo.com
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2009 06:31:54 -0700
Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Star Trek Generation















 





  Martin and Keith,

i am going 2 try 2 answer those 2 questions.  as best i can and try 2 make it 
sound plausible.  first, i think that the shields rotate frequencies when they 
fought the borg because the borg could adapt 2 whatever so quick.  so the best 
strategy against them was to rotate the shield frequencies (just like they did 
with the phasers).   as for them not being able 2 scan frequencies, it's just 
like communications.  they are encrypted so that someone could not just tap in 
the steal the frequencies.  if u remember the ST:TNG epsisode where the 
Starfleet Captain was attacking the Cardassians, Chief O'Brien had served on 
the ship with the captain and told Captain Picard that that ship shields 
frequency waswell, whatever the number was and they it recycled 
every so many seconds.   so that
 is when I knew that the shields were on a set freq.   how's that ?  does that 
sound plausible?

Fate.

--- On Fri, 8/28/09, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com wrote:

From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com
Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Star Trek Generation
To: SciFiNoir2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, August 28, 2009, 8:31 AM






 


  


Keith, until that movie, I always took it as given that shields were on a 
cyclic frequency rotation, as Trek did when dealing with the Borg.

If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=fQUxw9aUVik





To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com
From: KeithBJohnson@ comcast.net
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2009 02:58:03 +
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Star Trek Generation















 





  
Good scene. But I could never cotton with the whole way the Klingons penetrated 
the shields. Since when do you need to see a shield frequency on a console in 
order to determine what it is? Surely a simple scan could detect shield 
frequencies, just as sensors can always report that a ship brings up its 
shields in the first place. I also don't understand how simply matching 
frequencies allows a torpedo through. If it were that easy, all space battles 
in the Trek universe would be short and sweet: simply scan the frequency, set 
the weapon and poof! Shields are bypassed.

Okay, enough of the buzz kill!


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 2009 7:22:42 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
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  Sitting here drinking my morning coffee getting ready 4 work 
and watching 'Star Trek: Generations' on HBO2.  The saucer section separates 
from the star drive section as the warp core breeches.  the resulting shock 
wave knocks the saucer section out of orbit and into the atmosphere.  then u 
get classic Data.  he has the emotion chip activated and he is watching the 
view screen.   the camera shows his face - full on - and he smiles and says Oh 
shit!  simply classic!

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RE: [scifinoir2] Blonde in the Bayou

2009-08-28 Thread Martin Baxter

Fate, I did laugh at that. There are eleven women in my life who, if they ever 
learn that I did so, would  *end* my life.

If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




To: blackscifihorrorfantasyc...@yahoogroups.com
CC: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: jazzynupe_...@yahoo.com
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2009 06:17:16 -0700
Subject: [scifinoir2] Blonde in the Bayou















 





  Blonde in the Bayou


A young blonde woman was driving through Southern Louisiana while on Vacation. 
She
wanted to take home a pair of genuine alligator shoes in the Worst way,
but was very reluctant to pay the high prices the local vendors were
asking.


After becoming very frustrated with the attitude of one of the
shopkeepers. the young blonde declared, Well then, maybe I'll just go
out and catch my own alligator and get a pair of shoes for free!


The shopkeeper said with a sly smile, Well little lady, why don't you go on 
and give it a try?
The blonde headed off to the swamp, determined to catch an alligator..

Later in the day, as the shopkeeper is driving home, he spots the same young

woman standing waist deep in the murky water, shotgun in hand.. As he
brings his car to a stop, he sees a huge 9-foot gator swimming rapidly
toward her. With lightning reflexes, the Blonde takes aim, shoots the
creature and hauls it 

up onto the slippery bank. Nearby were 7 more dead gators, all lying belly up.

The
shopkeeper stood on the bank, watching in silent amazement. The blonde
struggles mightily and manages to flip the gator onto its back.


Rolling her eyes heavenward, she screams in frustration, CRAP! THIS ONE'S
BAREFOOT, TOO!


  

 

  














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RE: [scifinoir2] Rod Serling Conference- Ithaca, NY

2009-08-28 Thread Martin Baxter

Would that I could get there, Adrianne. Sounds like a blast in the making. And 
I understand how you felt at graduating. I'm told that many of those in my 
class at Virginia State wept like babies. (I wasn't there to march with them, 
owing to a family emergency that required me to grab my sheepskins and run.)

If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: adrianne.bren...@gmail.com
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2009 15:27:58 -0400
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Rod Serling Conference- Ithaca, NY















 





  I remember this! Ithaca College is my alma mater. Many, many 
fond memories of being there. I absolutely loved it and cried on graduation day 
because I was leaving. No joke!
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Rod Serling Conference- Ithaca, NY



http://www.ithaca.edu/rhp/serling/



Celebrating 50 Years of The Twilight Zone is an interdisciplinary academic 
conference dedicated to the works of Rod Serling. The conference is set for 
Friday, October 2, and Saturday, October 3, 2009, at the Roy H. Park School of 
Communications at Ithaca College.





Ithaca College, where Serling taught from 1967 to 1975, is home to the Rod 
Serling Archives. The archives include an extensive collection of television 
scripts, film screenplays, stage play scripts, films, unpublished works, and 
other materials vital to scholarships associated with the author and television 
pioneer.





Why was Ithaca College chosen as the place to house the Rod Serling Archives? 
After Serling's death in 1975, longtime Ithaca College board member Carol 
Serling decided her husband's work needed a permanent home so that it could be 
preserved and shared. Ithaca was a natural choice, as it was where Serling 
shared his creative genius with students for many years. In addition, the 
College, which is just 50 miles north of Serling's hometown of Binghamton (New 
York), is very close to the family cottage on Cayuga Lake where, ­in an 
Airstream trailer behind the house, some of the most memorable Serling scripts 
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RE: [scifinoir2] A General G.I. disorder...Adults may get fewer film choices

2009-08-28 Thread Martin Baxter

Between the absolute glut of crappy flicks and remakes and reboots, am I meant 
to be surprised by this?

If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: ravena...@yahoo.com
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2009 18:32:07 +
Subject: [scifinoir2] A General G.I. disorder...Adults may get fewer film 
choices















 





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Rating High on Hollywood's List: Immature Audiences



By Ann Hornaday

Washington Post Staff Writer

Sunday, August 23, 2009



If 2009 is remembered for anything in American cinema, it might be as the year 
grown-ups and Hollywood finally agreed to call it quits.



This is the year when such slick, star-driven, adult-oriented movies as State 
of Play, Duplicity, The International and The Taking of Pelham 1 2 3 
underperformed at the box office. And when talking-toy movies like 
Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen and G.I. Joe raked in millions.



Suddenly, movies for grown-ups are in the cross hairs. I'm caught up all in 
it, Spike Lee said recently with a rueful laugh, noting that the sequel to his 
2006 thriller Inside Man is hanging in the balance. I'm waiting on 
Universal, he said.



As it happens, Universal is the studio that has come to symbolize the current 
plight of movies for adults, having released both Duplicity and State of 
Play, as well as The Soloist and Funny People, considered box-office 
disappointments. Last week, Universal Co-chairman Marc Shmuger told the Los 
Angeles Times that 2009 has certainly been a humbling year. First, there's a 
real need to be making movies for less money. Second, there's a real premium on 
sharper, more marketable concepts. Audiences are clearly seeking escape from 
their lives.



Translation: Hello, Paul Blart. Sayonara, Frost/Nixon.



The trend has been under way for some time now: With movies becoming more 
expensive to make and market, Hollywood has increasingly gone for sure bets. 
Studios want movies -- preferably based on an already successful book or video 
game, preferably featuring non-stars who need not be paid much -- that are 
guaranteed to bring in audiences not just once but twice or three times. 
Franchises like Lord of the Rings, Harry Potter and Twilight, with their 
sequels, prequels and just plain 'quels, fit that bill nicely.



Alternatively, small, modestly budgeted films that become sleeper hits -- the 
Little Miss Sunshines and Junos of the world -- also are prospering, simply 
because even with smaller-than-Transformers-size audiences, it's easier for 
them to make their budgets back. (It looks like this year's winner in the 
category will be the winsome romantic dramedy [500] Days of Summer.)



The result is that only two types of movies -- big-budget blockbusters or 
poverty-row strivers -- seem to be making profits these days. The middle range 
of high-end, relatively sophisticated movies made with glossy production values 
and well-paid stars might do well with critics and some filmgoers but, between 
star salaries and the high costs of marketing, fail to earn their keep. And 
many observers worry that this will influence Hollywood's decisions about which 
projects to greenlight.



Note: These aren't movies described as quirky in their newspaper ads. Nor are 
they gritty, edgy, offbeat or groundbreaking. These are movies that are 
simply smart, well-made and directed at filmgoers with discerning but not 
necessarily adventurous tastes. The year 2006 provides a useful core sample: 
That was when such movies as The Devil Wears Prada, The Departed and The 
Pursuit of Happyness made the Top 20 list of box-office earners, and Lee's 
Inside Man came in close behind.



Part of the problem is that, with services like Netflix and video on demand 
making it easier for adults to avoid the parking headaches, high concession 
prices and annoying ads of the modern-day multiplex, more and more grown-ups 
are looking at the Friday paper and saying, Why bother?



One distributor that has capitalized on this trend is IFC, which this year 
released Steven Soderbergh's Che and the foreign films Gomorrah and A 
Christmas Tale in theaters and on its cable channel simultaneously. On 
Wednesday, it will release Passing Strange: The Movie, Lee's documentary 
version of the Broadway show by performance artist Stew, the same way (it's 
also opening at the IFC Theater in New York), on a new pay-per-view channel, 
Sundance Selects.



IFC initially saw the simultaneous release of films in theaters and video on 
demand (known colloquially as day-and-date) as ideal for small independent 
films, says IFC Films President Jonathan Sehring, who notes that Che and 
Gomorrah enjoyed roughly equivalent audiences in both venues. But he foresees 
a time when more mainstream movies are released the same way. It's a way for 
films that 

RE: [scifinoir2] The Doctor

2009-08-28 Thread Martin Baxter

Adrianne, Siffy ran a DW block today, and they made a point of including The 
Doctor's Daughter.  Journey's End I was able to cope with somewhat.

If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: adrianne.bren...@gmail.com
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2009 13:32:35 -0400
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] The Doctor















 





  It wasn't the worst ep by a long shot. I think the worst eps 
so far would be The Doctor's Daughter and Journey's End.
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just spank me again Adrianne (kinda liked that a little )

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From: Adrianne Brennan adrianne.bren...@gmail.com


Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] The Doctor
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, August 28, 2009, 12:58 PM






 


  You and I are on total opposite viewpoints of that episode. 
HATED IT. Worst piece of crap in the new series, ever. I'd rather watch Love 
and Monsters than view it ever again.


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wrote:






























for some strange inexplicable reason, my dvr recorded Dr. Who this morning at 
5am.  it was the ep with Georgia Moffett entitled:  The Doctor's Daughter.  
have 2 say, i enjoyed this one.  the doc, donna and martha  (although have 2 
say, i do have such a crush on Freema Agyeman) all 2gether, and the 
introduction of a daughter cloned (semi) from the doctors dna.  at the end, she 
says everything that donna told her that the doctor does and she shot into 
space on a shuttle.  i do so hope they bring her back.  it would be kool for a 
reunion ep.





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RE: [scifinoir2] The Doctor

2009-08-28 Thread Martin Baxter

Fate, I have to ride with Adrianne on this one. The Doctor's Daughter, to me, 
never gelled seriously. It felt as though the writers half-wrote.

If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: adrianne.bren...@gmail.com
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2009 13:32:35 -0400
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] The Doctor















 





  It wasn't the worst ep by a long shot. I think the worst eps 
so far would be The Doctor's Daughter and Journey's End.
~ Where love and magic meet ~
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Experience the magic of Blood of the Dark Moon:  
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Take a bite out of Blood and Mint Chocolates: 
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On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 1:22 PM, Augustus Augustus jazzynupe_...@yahoo.com 
wrote:





























just spank me again Adrianne (kinda liked that a little )

--- On Fri, 8/28/09, Adrianne Brennan adrianne.bren...@gmail.com wrote:



From: Adrianne Brennan adrianne.bren...@gmail.com


Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] The Doctor
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, August 28, 2009, 12:58 PM






 


  You and I are on total opposite viewpoints of that episode. 
HATED IT. Worst piece of crap in the new series, ever. I'd rather watch Love 
and Monsters than view it ever again.


~ Where love and magic meet ~


http://www.adrianne brennan.com
Experience the magic of Blood of the Dark Moon:  http://www.adrianne 
brennan.com/ botdm.html




Take a bite out of Blood and Mint Chocolates: http://www.adrianne brennan.com/ 
bamc.html
Dare to take The Oath in this erotic fantasy series: http://www.adrianne 
brennan.com/ books.html# the_oath







On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 12:23 PM, Augustus Augustus jazzynupe_007@ yahoo.com 
wrote:






























for some strange inexplicable reason, my dvr recorded Dr. Who this morning at 
5am.  it was the ep with Georgia Moffett entitled:  The Doctor's Daughter.  
have 2 say, i enjoyed this one.  the doc, donna and martha  (although have 2 
say, i do have such a crush on Freema Agyeman) all 2gether, and the 
introduction of a daughter cloned (semi) from the doctors dna.  at the end, she 
says everything that donna told her that the doctor does and she shot into 
space on a shuttle.  i do so hope they bring her back.  it would be kool for a 
reunion ep.





Fate.



  























 

  


 






  
























 

  














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RE: [scifinoir2] The Doctor

2009-08-28 Thread Martin Baxter

Right, it was this morning when that aired. (Danged old age...) I woke up as it 
came on, immediately changed the channel to the local news.

If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
CC: blackscifihorrorfantasyc...@yahoogroups.com
From: jazzynupe_...@yahoo.com
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2009 09:23:38 -0700
Subject: [scifinoir2] The Doctor















 





  for some strange inexplicable reason, my dvr recorded Dr. Who 
this morning at 5am.  it was the ep with Georgia Moffett entitled:  The 
Doctor's Daughter.  have 2 say, i enjoyed this one.  the doc, donna and martha  
(although have 2 say, i do have such a crush on Freema Agyeman) all 2gether, 
and the introduction of a daughter cloned (semi) from the doctors dna.  at the 
end, she says everything that donna told her that the doctor does and she shot 
into space on a shuttle.  i do so hope they bring her back.  it would be kool 
for a reunion ep.

Fate.



  

 

  














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RE: [scifinoir2] The Doctor

2009-08-28 Thread Martin Baxter

Sorry. No longer showing in my area. And Martin doesn't venture into Cobb 
County for more than an hour at a time. 

If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: jazzynupe_...@yahoo.com
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2009 13:12:00 -0700
Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] The Doctor















 





  all i have 2 say 2 u Martin is:  go see Star Trek 

--- On Fri, 8/28/09, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com wrote:

From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com
Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] The Doctor
To: SciFiNoir2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, August 28, 2009, 4:04 PM






 


  


Fate, I have to ride with Adrianne on this one. The Doctor's Daughter, to me, 
never gelled seriously. It felt as though the writers half-wrote.

If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=fQUxw9aUVik





To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com
From: adrianne.brennan@ gmail.com
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2009 13:32:35 -0400
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] The Doctor















 





  It wasn't the worst ep by a long shot. I think the worst eps 
so far would be The Doctor's Daughter and Journey's End.
~ Where love and magic meet ~
http://www.adrianne brennan.com


Experience the magic of Blood of the Dark Moon:  http://www.adrianne 
brennan.com/ botdm.html
Take a bite out of Blood and Mint Chocolates: http://www.adrianne brennan.com/ 
bamc.html


Dare to take The Oath in this erotic fantasy series: http://www.adrianne 
brennan.com/ books.html# the_oath



On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 1:22 PM, Augustus Augustus jazzynupe_007@ yahoo.com 
wrote:





























just spank me again Adrianne (kinda liked that a little )

--- On Fri, 8/28/09, Adrianne Brennan adrianne.brennan@ gmail.com wrote:



From: Adrianne Brennan adrianne.brennan@ gmail.com


Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] The Doctor
To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com
Date: Friday, August 28, 2009, 12:58 PM






 


  You and I are on total opposite viewpoints of that episode. 
HATED IT. Worst piece of crap in the new series, ever. I'd rather watch Love 
and Monsters than view it ever again.


~ Where love and magic meet ~


http://www.adrianne brennan.com
Experience the magic of Blood of the Dark Moon:  http://www.adrianne 
brennan.com/ botdm.html




Take a bite out of Blood and Mint Chocolates: http://www.adrianne brennan.com/ 
bamc.html
Dare to take The Oath in this erotic fantasy series: http://www.adrianne 
brennan.com/ books.html# the_oath







On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 12:23 PM, Augustus Augustus jazzynupe_007@ yahoo.com 
wrote:






























for some strange inexplicable reason, my dvr recorded Dr. Who this morning at 
5am.  it was the ep with Georgia Moffett entitled:  The Doctor's Daughter.  
have 2 say, i enjoyed this one.  the doc, donna and martha  (although have 2 
say, i do have such a crush on Freema Agyeman) all 2gether, and the 
introduction of a daughter cloned (semi) from the doctors dna.  at the end, she 
says everything that donna told her that the doctor does and she shot into 
space on a shuttle.  i do so hope they bring her back.  it would be kool for a 
reunion ep.





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RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Samurai Jack Reruns on Boomerang

2009-08-28 Thread Martin Baxter

Especially the one in which the Scotsman finds Jack to enlist his aid in 
rescuing his wife from the bad guy in that ep. By the time they won through, if 
memory serves, the wife was whompin' on the boy something fierce.

If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: daikaij...@yahoo.com
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2009 16:23:00 +
Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Samurai Jack Reruns on Boomerang















 





  I've seen most of those. I love the shoes episode and the 
Scotsman was great fun.



--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@... wrote:



 You have *got* to catch the one where he fights the Viking king...the ep 
 where he's trapped amidst a book of the dead reanimated by Aku and has to 
 fight and fight and fight to survive...the moving take on 300 that's an 
 exciting battle..and eerie show that's mostly in black and white about a 
 spirit infesting a home where horrors took place years before. And funny 
 shows too, like both dealing with the Scotsman, whose sword and skills rival 
 Jack's, but whose greatest weapon may be his rotund wife...the one where Jack 
 loses his sandals and spends the show trying on all types of modern shoes, 
 but keeps stumbling and falling and failing, much to the amusement of the 
 gang he's trying to subdue--great stuff! 

 

 - Original Message - 

 From: daikaiju66 daikaij...@... 

 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 

 Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 9:23:59 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 

 Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Samurai Jack Reruns on Boomerang 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 Cool. There were quite a few episodes I never got to watch so now I can play 
 catch up. 

 

 --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Martin Baxter truthseeker013@ wrote: 

  

  

  Can't agree more, Keith. I still can't quite get Boomerang on my set yet. 
  The digital signal keeps popping in and out constantly. Comcrap says that 
  they may have given us bad set-top boxes. *Four* of them... 

  

  (spit!) 

  

  If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in 
  bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant 

  

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik 

  

  

  

  

  To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 

  From: KeithBJohnson@ 

  Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 04:25:44 + 

  Subject: [scifinoir2] Samurai Jack Reruns on Boomerang 

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  For the past couple of weeks I've been enjoying reruns of this, one of the 
  greatest animated series I've ever seen. If you've never seen Samurai 
  Jack, then do yourself a favor and check it out. Don't let the oddly flat 
  looking animation throw you. Don't be turned off by the idea of a Samurai 
  nicknamed Jack in a strange future. If you see a couple of eps that seem 
  kinda silly or light, don't give up. Tartokovsky crafted an incredibly good 
  show here, full of action, adventure, and some surprisingly effective 
  drama. I can think of a couple of shows that literally had my mouth hanging 
  open, and a couple that had me near misty eyed (see Jack battle the cursed 
  Viking warrior for example). It's fun when they riff on that anime standard 
  of characters freezing in moments of high action: you know, when a 
  character delivers a fatal sword stroke, then freezes in that move, while 
  the enemy dies, or explodes, as the case is here. There's good music, good 
  writing, and memorable characters. 

  

  If Boomerang had to replace Justice League, this is one of the better 
  choices to take its place. 

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

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RE: [scifinoir2] Holy Casting Call, Batman!

2009-08-28 Thread Martin Baxter

Keith, I believe that Tracey mentioned gonads. IMO, that's the why of it 
right there. There really wans't any sex to sell in either Batman Begins or 
The Dark Knight, because such wasn't needed. Great movies sell themselves on 
their merits. Some suit in H'Wood is thinking that there needs to be sex in 
this one, maybe just in case it doesn't draw as spectacularly as the first two 
did (considering the economy, most likely).

If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2009 22:58:22 +
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Holy Casting Call, Batman!















 





  
Good point. I'd like to see a Catwoman even more intense than Pfeiffer's.  But 
then, I start asking, why do Catwoman again? 


- Original Message -
From: Tracey de Morsella tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 2:42:21 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Holy Casting Call, Batman!







 





  








I did not like the casting at first, but for me, you described
Michele Pfeiffer’s portrayal of Catwoman.   I thought she really delivered.  I
wish Nolan would tuck away his gonads and hire an acting heavyweight with a
nice body who is not the flavor of the week

 





From:
scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Keith
Johnson

Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 8:19 PM

To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com

Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Holy Casting Call, Batman!





 











that's
my feeling. I can only see Catwoman work if she's the more dangerous, world
weary, slightly abused one from the reboot after the Crisis. I could see a
storyline where she and Bruce--who's still on the run and hunted as
Batman--become kindred souls who lean on each other. Not so much for mutual
support, but more like falling together because they're both damaged and messed
up--like two drug users becoming lovers. I see a Catwoman who's frankly not
even necessarily all that beautiful--at least, not anymore. Maybe someone who's
so ravaged by life that her beauty is just below the surface.

Nothing in that says Meagan Fox...



- Original Message -

From: George Arterberry brotherfromhow...@yahoo.com

To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 12:29:18 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern

Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Holy Casting Call, Batman!



  








 
  
  Why should
  there be a CW in this flick anyway?

  

  --- On Thu, 8/27/09, Tracey de Morsella tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com
  wrote:
  

  From: Tracey de Morsella tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com

  Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Holy Casting Call, Batman!

  To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com

  Date: Thursday, August 27, 2009, 12:16 PM
  

  
  
  
  Say it ain’t so.  After Michele
  Pfieffer, I need someone with some acting chops
  
   
  
  
  
  From:
  scifino...@yahoogro ups.com [mailto:scifinoir2@ yahoogroups. com] On
  Behalf Of Martin Baxter

  Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 5:30 AM

  To: SciFiNoir2

  Subject: [scifinoir2] Holy Casting Call, Batman!
  
  
  
   
  
  

  

  Because you didn't ask for it... Megan Fox is being considered for the role
  of Catwoman in Christopher Nolan's next Bat-flick...

  

  http://wonderwall. msn.com/movies/ The-Shortlist- for-Aug-26-
  3865.gallery? GT1=28135# m=oZghMddAdLu

  

  If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in
  bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

  

  http://www.youtube.
  com/watch? v=fQUxw9aUVik

  

  
  
  
  
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RE: [scifinoir2] Ugandan Superhero

2009-08-28 Thread Martin Baxter

Thanks for the send, rave. More stuff for the List.

If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: ravena...@yahoo.com
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RE: [scifinoir2] Are you familiar with Scribd?

2009-08-28 Thread Martin Baxter

I signed on a long time ago, rave, and have yet to avail myself of it. Don't 
even remember what e-mail account I used to join.

If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




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From: ravena...@yahoo.com
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2009 22:54:50 +
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  http://www.scribd.com/



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[scifinoir2] Keith, brace yourself...

2009-08-28 Thread Martin Baxter

If you're watching this, then you already know. For those who aren't -- Eureka 
tonight seems to be a CLIP SHOW. 

If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

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RE: [scifinoir2] OT: Madonna Booed for Condeming Discrimination Against Roma

2009-08-28 Thread Martin Baxter

(standing ovation)

If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: hellomahog...@gmail.com
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2009 17:59:58 -0700
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] OT: Madonna Booed for Condeming Discrimination
Against Roma















 





  This planet has been a continuous state of war around the 
world for at least 10,000 years. We still haven't been able to figure out how 
to do things without going to war yet in many cases. The worst and most 
volatile problem is how to blend competing ethnic, political and religious 
ideologies.  


There are some good and bad things that have come from being in a war like 
state. You're using one right now. Many of the modern technologies come from 
offshoots of war. The internet, cellphone, computer, tv, vcr, xray, penicillin, 
jet engine etc. 


The bad is that it has also allowed us to not only kill efficiently, but kill 
in mass quantities indiscriminately, while at the same time wrecking our 
environment and doing untold damage to lives. 

I often think about the Star Trek world. I am having problems seeing us doing 
anything like that within the next 4-500 years at least. It may become just too 
expensive if we don't kill ourselves or global warming gets us first. 




On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 3:57 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net 
wrote:





















You bet. Sad reminder we have so far to go before calling this world 
post-anything.  I hate to feel this way, but I really don't think humanity has 
progressed ten thousand years in terms of social development and compassion. I 
sound like a tired old scifi flick, but our technical, military, and 
self-destructive might continue to outpace our ability to get along.


Hope Star Trek is wrong, and we don't need another world war to finally get 
past our prejudices...


- Original Message -
From: Tracey de Morsella tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com

To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 2:37:47 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] OT: Madonna Booed for Condeming Discrimination 
Against Roma








 





  








Thanks for the interesting read. I will pass it on


 






From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Keith Johnson

Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 10:06 PM

To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com

Subject: [scifinoir2] OT: Madonna Booed for Condeming Discrimination
Against Roma






 













Sad. I wonder how many Americans know anything about the Roma,
outside of what they've seen in movies?



***

http://omg.yahoo.com/news/madonna-booed-in-bucharest-for-defending-gypsies/26947?nc


BUCHAREST,
Romania - At first, fans politely applauded the Roma performers sharing a stage
with Madonna. Then the pop
star condemned widespread discrimination against Roma, or Gypsies — and the
cheers gave way to jeers.


The sharp mood
change that swept the crowd of 60,000, who had packed a park for Wednesday
night's concert, underscores how prejudice against Gypsies remains deeply
entrenched across Eastern Europe.


Despite
long-standing efforts to stamp out rampant bias, human rights advocates say
Roma probably suffer more humiliation and endure more discrimination than any
other people group on the continent.


Sometimes, it can
be deadly: In neighboring Hungary, six Roma have been killed and several
wounded in a recent series of apparently racially motivated attacks targeting
small countryside villages predominantly settled by Gypsies.


There is
generally widespread resentment against Gypsies in Eastern Europe. They have
historically been the underdog, Radu Motoc, an official with the Soros
Foundation Romania, said Thursday.


Roma, or Gypsies,
are a nomadic ethnic group believed to have their roots in the Indian
subcontinent. They live mostly in southern and eastern Europe, but hundreds of
thousands have migrated west over the past few decades in search of jobs and
better living conditions.


Romania has the
largest number of Roma in the region. Some say the population could be as high
as 2 million, although official data put it at 500,000.


Until the 19th
century, Romanian Gypsies were slaves, and they've gotten a mixed response ever
since: While discrimination is widespread, many East Europeans are enthusiastic
about Gypsy music and dance, which they embrace as part of the region's
cultural heritage.


That explains why
the Roma musicians and a dancer who had briefly joined Madonna onstage got
enthusiastic applause. And it also may explain why some in the crowd turned on 
Madonna when she paused
during the two-hour show — a stop on her worldwide Sticky and Sweet
tour — to touch on their plight.


It has been
brought to my attention ... that 

RE: [scifinoir2] Holy Casting Call, Batman!

2009-08-28 Thread Martin Baxter

As do I, now that I think about it. But the way Keith's phrasing read... 

If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2009 23:01:48 +
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Holy Casting Call, Batman!















 





  
Well, I've got at least two decades on her...

- Original Message -
From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com
To: SciFiNoir2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 8:28:55 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Holy Casting Call, Batman!







 





  


(standing ovation, while LNAO @ Keith calling Fox a child)

If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik





To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2009 03:08:01 +
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Holy Casting Call, Batman!















 





  
You know my feelings about stunt casting. I'm not convinced the child can act, 
and I sure as hell don't want her slinking on the screen just looking good in a 
catsuit. Catwoman is--should be--a more complex, nuanced character. Despite the 
Julie Newmar/Eartha Kitt/Lee Meriwether/Halle Berry portrayals, her character 
can be fascinating. I'm looking for something more like the Catwoman from the 
Year One books after the DC Universe reboot brought on by the Crisis on 
Infinite Earths.

Chris Nolan has mostly done great casting the Bat movies--with the horrible 
exception of Katie Holmes. I hope this is just gossip and he's not going to do 
this. Even if Catwoman is in the movie--and you know my vote is for Talia Al 
ghul instead--I'd hope he goes with a relative unknown actress who can actually 
bring some meat to the role.

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Because you didn't ask for it... Megan Fox is being considered for the role of 
Catwoman in Christopher Nolan's next Bat-flick...

http://wonderwall.msn.com/movies/The-Shortlist-for-Aug-26-3865.gallery?GT1=28135#m=oZghMddAdLu

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RE: [scifinoir2] Keith, brace yourself...

2009-08-29 Thread Martin Baxter

I'm sorry you missed it as well, Keith. Easily. The. Worst. Ep. EVER.

If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




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Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Keith, brace yourself...















 





  
Sorry I didn't see this earlier! It'd have saved me from posting when you'd 
already done so, and it'd have save me the fifteen minutes of my life i wasted 
on that !!!  :(

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Subject: [scifinoir2] Keith, brace yourself...







 





  


If you're watching this, then you already know. For those who aren't -- Eureka 
tonight seems to be a CLIP SHOW. 

If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

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RE: [scifinoir2] A Eureka Clip Show - WTF?

2009-08-29 Thread Martin Baxter

Keith, you were the first person I thought of when the clips began to stream. 

And no, you didn't, unless you count Allie's having her baby.

If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




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Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2009 03:23:40 +
Subject: [scifinoir2] A Eureka Clip Show - WTF?















 





  
So, I'm settling in to watch a new ep of Eureka, after watching Warehouse 
13 for the second time this week. And what do I get? A new fun adventure 
dealing with a spacetime anomaly, a dangerous creature of ooze, or perhaps a 
rogue AI? No--a clip show! I ever tell you how much i hate clip shows? 
Unsatisfactory in the extreme: brief collections of the best moments from past 
shows that don't satisfy because the context is lost without the full show 
around them. It's like hearing the punchline of jokes but never the setups. and 
I either feel completely lost with a clip show, because I can't follow the 
stories from the bits shown, or vaguely frustrated at not getting to see the 
whole of shows I do remember and like.
Clip shows--bah! I turned over to Samurai Jack instead. Lemme know if I 
missed anything...


 

  














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RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Holy Casting Call, Batman!

2009-08-29 Thread Martin Baxter

And that would sound the Second Death Knell for the Bat-Franchise...

If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




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Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2009 01:26:54 -0700
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Holy Casting Call, Batman!















 





  I can't imagine that Cher would be that flexible. Maybe 
Madonna would? :) 


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I still like Cher as a creepy cat chick.


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All of a sudden I am warming up to the idea of Cher as Catwoman!

~rave! 



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RE: [scifinoir2] OT: Madonna Booed for Condeming Discrimination Against Roma

2009-08-29 Thread Martin Baxter

That's an idea worth looking at.

If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2009 04:09:30 +
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] OT: Madonna Booed for Condeming Discrimination  
Against Roma















 





  
Somewhere in my e-mail archives is along one I wrote about how as a child I 
looked forward to the world of Star Trek. Or the world of Lost in Space, or of 
Land of the Giants. Or of any world where technology was superscience, we had 
talking computers with true AI, spaceships that flew faster than light, bases 
on the Moon, and of course, flying cars.

But sometimes I wonder if our whole path is wrong. That perhaps in trying to 
create new things to mold and shape our world, we shouldn't spend more time 
trying to live within it. I'm not naively suggesting that we all go Luddite or 
Amish, discard clothing and TVs and electricity and commune with Nature. Humans 
will kill and rape and steal whether we live in grass huts or fancy high rises. 
But I do sometimes wonder if it would at least help us start down the path to 
true unity and civilization if we spent more time trying to work with the 
natural world, instead of focusing on machines and computers. 


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To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 8:59:58 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] OT: Madonna Booed for Condeming Discrimination  
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  This planet has been a continuous state of war around the 
world for at least 10,000 years. We still haven't been able to figure out how 
to do things without going to war yet in many cases. The worst and most 
volatile problem is how to blend competing ethnic, political and religious 
ideologies.  


There are some good and bad things that have come from being in a war like 
state. You're using one right now. Many of the modern technologies come from 
offshoots of war. The internet, cellphone, computer, tv, vcr, xray, penicillin, 
jet engine etc. 


The bad is that it has also allowed us to not only kill efficiently, but kill 
in mass quantities indiscriminately, while at the same time wrecking our 
environment and doing untold damage to lives. 

I often think about the Star Trek world. I am having problems seeing us doing 
anything like that within the next 4-500 years at least. It may become just too 
expensive if we don't kill ourselves or global warming gets us first. 




On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 3:57 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net 
wrote:





















You bet. Sad reminder we have so far to go before calling this world 
post-anything.  I hate to feel this way, but I really don't think humanity has 
progressed ten thousand years in terms of social development and compassion. I 
sound like a tired old scifi flick, but our technical, military, and 
self-destructive might continue to outpace our ability to get along.


Hope Star Trek is wrong, and we don't need another world war to finally get 
past our prejudices...


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To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 2:37:47 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] OT: Madonna Booed for Condeming Discrimination 
Against Roma








 





  








Thanks for the interesting read. I will pass it on


 






From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Keith Johnson

Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 10:06 PM

To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com

Subject: [scifinoir2] OT: Madonna Booed for Condeming Discrimination
Against Roma






 













Sad. I wonder how many Americans know anything about the Roma,
outside of what they've seen in movies?



***

http://omg.yahoo.com/news/madonna-booed-in-bucharest-for-defending-gypsies/26947?nc


BUCHAREST,
Romania - At first, fans politely applauded the Roma performers sharing a stage
with Madonna. Then the pop
star condemned widespread discrimination against Roma, or Gypsies — and the
cheers gave way to jeers.


The sharp mood
change that swept the crowd of 60,000, who had packed a park for Wednesday
night's concert, underscores how prejudice against Gypsies remains deeply
entrenched across Eastern Europe.


Despite
long-standing efforts to stamp out rampant bias, human rights advocates say
Roma probably suffer more humiliation and endure more discrimination than any
other people group on the continent.


Sometimes, it can
be deadly: In neighboring Hungary, six Roma have been killed and several
wounded in a recent series of apparently racially motivated attacks targeting
small countryside 

RE: [scifinoir2] OT: Madonna Booed for Condeming Discrimination Against Roma

2009-08-29 Thread Martin Baxter

(standing ovation)

If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2009 04:05:23 +
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] OT: Madonna Booed for Condeming Discrimination  
Against Roma















 





  
Penicillin is a by-product of warfare? How's that?

Yeah, i despair of the species improving significantly anytime soon. I tend to 
go with the classic Twilight Zone where the aliens jiggered with a few 
devices and the whole street turned on itself. Or, the one where people think a 
nuclear war has come, and they all revert to selfishness, fear, and bigotry, 
trying to crowd into one man's fallout shelter. I fear that we still have a 
very thin veneer of civilization layered over a thick layer of savagery and 
barbarism. It takes very little for that to come out: look at the hatred and 
racism vented during our own Presidential elections.

To quote Calvin and Hobbes again, Sometimes I think the best evidence that 
life exists out there...is that none of it has ever come here.

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To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 8:59:58 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] OT: Madonna Booed for Condeming Discrimination  
Against Roma







 





  This planet has been a continuous state of war around the 
world for at least 10,000 years. We still haven't been able to figure out how 
to do things without going to war yet in many cases. The worst and most 
volatile problem is how to blend competing ethnic, political and religious 
ideologies.  


There are some good and bad things that have come from being in a war like 
state. You're using one right now. Many of the modern technologies come from 
offshoots of war. The internet, cellphone, computer, tv, vcr, xray, penicillin, 
jet engine etc. 


The bad is that it has also allowed us to not only kill efficiently, but kill 
in mass quantities indiscriminately, while at the same time wrecking our 
environment and doing untold damage to lives. 

I often think about the Star Trek world. I am having problems seeing us doing 
anything like that within the next 4-500 years at least. It may become just too 
expensive if we don't kill ourselves or global warming gets us first. 




On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 3:57 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net 
wrote:





















You bet. Sad reminder we have so far to go before calling this world 
post-anything.  I hate to feel this way, but I really don't think humanity has 
progressed ten thousand years in terms of social development and compassion. I 
sound like a tired old scifi flick, but our technical, military, and 
self-destructive might continue to outpace our ability to get along.


Hope Star Trek is wrong, and we don't need another world war to finally get 
past our prejudices...


- Original Message -
From: Tracey de Morsella tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com

To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 2:37:47 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] OT: Madonna Booed for Condeming Discrimination 
Against Roma








 





  








Thanks for the interesting read. I will pass it on


 






From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Keith Johnson

Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 10:06 PM

To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com

Subject: [scifinoir2] OT: Madonna Booed for Condeming Discrimination
Against Roma






 













Sad. I wonder how many Americans know anything about the Roma,
outside of what they've seen in movies?



***

http://omg.yahoo.com/news/madonna-booed-in-bucharest-for-defending-gypsies/26947?nc


BUCHAREST,
Romania - At first, fans politely applauded the Roma performers sharing a stage
with Madonna. Then the pop
star condemned widespread discrimination against Roma, or Gypsies — and the
cheers gave way to jeers.


The sharp mood
change that swept the crowd of 60,000, who had packed a park for Wednesday
night's concert, underscores how prejudice against Gypsies remains deeply
entrenched across Eastern Europe.


Despite
long-standing efforts to stamp out rampant bias, human rights advocates say
Roma probably suffer more humiliation and endure more discrimination than any
other people group on the continent.


Sometimes, it can
be deadly: In neighboring Hungary, six Roma have been killed and several
wounded in a recent series of apparently racially motivated attacks targeting
small countryside villages predominantly settled by Gypsies.


There is
generally widespread resentment against Gypsies in Eastern Europe. They have
historically been the underdog, Radu Motoc, an official with the Soros

RE: [scifinoir2] Star Trek Generation

2009-08-29 Thread Martin Baxter

Keith, maybe we need to sit down and rewrite the Technical Manual, put in the 
details.

If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2009 03:47:16 +
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Star Trek Generation















 





  
yeah, but the movie seems to suggest the frequencies don't change, at least not 
that often, or else your theory would work.

And yeah, I know light and sound are waves--though to be precise, light is both 
wave and particle, depending on differing modes of interaction with other 
things.  I just tried to think of shields as something else, to avoid this 
whole frequency-weakness thing.


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To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 7:48:06 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Star Trek Generation







 





  One theory I have about the frequencies is that the variables 
are probably so large that it would take a long time to find it. Longer than 
they would have in a situation where they are being attacked. For example if 
you have a frequency that is broadcasting at 100hz and up to 100 million 
including all of the points in between up to 100 billionth of a decimal point 
that is rotating every 2 milliseconds it would take a while to figure out where 
you are broadcasting and the intervals of the next signal. 


(On a side note, light and sound are waves.) 


On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 4:04 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net 
wrote:





















Yeah, I guess I don't get the concept of frequency in shields. That means 
that basically any shield is vulnerable if one can glean its frequency. Doesn't 
make sense to me. Even if I assume that shields are like water or sound waves, 
or a bridge over a river, where one can find a resonant frequency to make it go 
hypercritical. Even then, it seems to me one would have to *overload* the 
shields at the same frequency, the same way you hit the natural vibrating 
frequency of a span bridge with a high wind, watching it oscillate until it 
collapses. 



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To: SciFiNoir2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 8:31:31 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Star Trek Generation







 





  


Keith, until that movie, I always took it as given that shields were on a 
cyclic frequency rotation, as Trek did when dealing with the Borg.

If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik





To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com

From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2009 02:58:03 +
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Star Trek Generation















 





  
Good scene. But I could never cotton with the whole way the Klingons penetrated 
the shields. Since when do you need to see a shield frequency on a console in 
order to determine what it is? Surely a simple scan could detect shield 
frequencies, just as sensors can always report that a ship brings up its 
shields in the first place. I also don't understand how simply matching 
frequencies allows a torpedo through. If it were that easy, all space battles 
in the Trek universe would be short and sweet: simply scan the frequency, set 
the weapon and poof! Shields are bypassed.


Okay, enough of the buzz kill!


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Cc: Black SciFi blackscifihorrorfantasyc...@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 7:22:42 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern

Subject: [scifinoir2] Star Trek Generation







 





  Sitting here drinking my morning coffee getting ready 4 work 
and watching 'Star Trek: Generations' on HBO2.  The saucer section separates 
from the star drive section as the warp core breeches.  the resulting shock 
wave knocks the saucer section out of orbit and into the atmosphere.  then u 
get classic Data.  he has the emotion chip activated and he is watching the 
view screen.   the camera shows his face - full on - and he smiles and says Oh 
shit!  simply classic!


Fate.   



  

 

  












 

  














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RE: [scifinoir2] Star Trek Generation

2009-08-29 Thread Martin Baxter

Reading that, I recall how E.E. Doc Smith defined shields in his novels, 
especially his Skylark series. In those, shields acted as shearing force 
planes that a shield operator more or less waved at incoming fire. No shot was 
ever truly stopped, merely chopped apart, hopefully as close to the beginning 
of the beam as possible. And I also think of Niven and Pournelle's The Mote in 
God's Eye, where they had the Alderson Field, which basically took all of the 
energy directed at it, ballooning outward and changing colors, depending on how 
well it was able to bleed off the energy. Red was cool, while violet was a step 
short of being cooked . Beyond that color and a certain radius (depending on 
how big the ship was), the energy would begin to burn through the Field.

If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2009 03:41:03 +
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Star Trek Generation















 





  
yeah, I get the supposed cancelation of waves and troughs things: I guess I 
just always assumed shields were more than a simple type of energy with such an 
obvious weak spot. I envisioned them as more akin to some kind of quasi-solid 
phenomenon, not merely a type of energy like light or gamma rays--something 
that prevented everything from penetrating them, vulnerable only to the 
*amount* of force directed at them, not a specially tuned frequency.


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To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 7:38:58 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Star Trek Generation







 





  You match the frequency then send a signal at the 180 degree 
opposite. That would result in cancellation of the shield frequency. I'm not 
sure why they couldn't just scan it though. 



On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 7:58 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net 
wrote:





















Good scene. But I could never cotton with the whole way the Klingons penetrated 
the shields. Since when do you need to see a shield frequency on a console in 
order to determine what it is? Surely a simple scan could detect shield 
frequencies, just as sensors can always report that a ship brings up its 
shields in the first place. I also don't understand how simply matching 
frequencies allows a torpedo through. If it were that easy, all space battles 
in the Trek universe would be short and sweet: simply scan the frequency, set 
the weapon and poof! Shields are bypassed.


Okay, enough of the buzz kill!


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To: Sci Fi scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com

Cc: Black SciFi blackscifihorrorfantasyc...@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 7:22:42 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern

Subject: [scifinoir2] Star Trek Generation







 





  

Sitting here drinking my morning coffee getting ready 4 work and watching 'Star 
Trek: Generations' on HBO2.  The saucer section separates from the star drive 
section as the warp core breeches.  the resulting shock wave knocks the saucer 
section out of orbit and into the atmosphere.  then u get classic Data.  he has 
the emotion chip activated and he is watching the view screen.   the camera 
shows his face - full on - and he smiles and says Oh shit!  simply classic!


Fate.   



  
 

  






























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RE: [scifinoir2] Warehouse 13 - Starting to love it

2009-08-29 Thread Martin Baxter

Stitches? Keith, i was *dancing* when it hit the floor...

And, if I may add in good news...

http://www.sliceofscifi.com/2009/08/20/warehouse-13-renewed/

If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2009 02:27:57 +
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Warehouse 13 - Starting to love it















 





  
Okay, really liked this week's show. A good mix of danger (the evil Mirror 
Myka), humour (the Studio 54 disco ball as a dangerous magic artifact playing 
I Will Survive had me in stitches!), and cool artifacts (Lewis Carroll's 
mirror). 

No longer tepid, the show gets better with every ep. The characters are more 
assured than I expected. the plots are actually interesting and entertaining, 
and they're striking a good balance of danger and fun, drama and humour, 
science and fancy.  I like that some of what they use or retrieve borders on 
magical, while some of the stuff is super science.The cast is all interesting, 
from Pete's standard devil-may-care angle, to Myka's cautious suspicious agent, 
to Artie's quirky, often grumpy role as the leader. I even like the young girl 
who's joined the cast. Her comic line Warehouse 13--The Next Generation, 
accompanied by the Vulcan salute, was hilarious.

Like Eureka, and non-scifi shows like Leverage and Burn Notice, it's 
entertaining, has engaging characters, stories that are a nice mix of drama and 
humour, and goes down easily. It seems the SyFy, as well as other cable 
channels, is getting this formula of breezy-and-serious shows down pat.  Now 
all we need is the return of some series with a little more dramatic weight in 
the mix, and we'll have the formula for some really great TV watching nights.


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From: Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 12:40:08 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Warehouse 13

It's growing on me. Pilot was a bit tepid, but the subsequent shows are more 
engaging. It has a decent mix of humour and scifi. Still at times reminds me of 
a lightweight Friday the 13th. Some of the things, like using old video 
communicators, is both quaint and kinda silly, but you roll with it. 
Interesting that the artifacts are some combination of scientific and mystical 
at times. In that, they remind of the Green Lantern rings, which have been 
described as both super science, and magick. I enjoyed tonight's show about 
the ancient artifact that attaches itself to a person's spine, turning them 
into a crazed warrior with electrical powers (sucked from the victim's body). 
The artifact reminded me of nothing so much as the famous Tingler from the 
classic movie of the same name. Brought back some memories: that tingler scared 
the bejeezus outa me as a kid!

- Original Message -
From: Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 7, 2009 9:14:20 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: [scifinoir2] Warehouse 13 on Now


















  
  
Anyone watching Warehouse 13 on the--wait for it, Martin--all new SyFy?  I'm 
just into the first ten minutes, so no way i can make a judgement, but wondered 
if anyone heard any early buzz on the show? I do recognize a couple of the 
actors. The lead actress played Jeremiah's traitorous lover on the show of the 
same name. And the mad scientist guy is memorable as Fajah (sp?), in the TNG ep 
about a rich dude who collects things, and tries to add Data to his collection.
As always with Sci--er, SyFy, I'm divided. If the show sucks, it's another 
sorry show commissioned by the network. If it's good--and I must admit they've 
shown some good stuff here and there over the years--I fear it'll be canceled 
to soon. And when I see a show like this, I must confess it makes me wonder why 
the likes of Level 9, The Dresden Files, and others of this type were 
canceled. Throw in shows on other stations, like The Chronicle, John Doe, 
Jake 2.0, and G vs. E, and you wonder what this show's chances are. Maybe 
it'll catch on like Eureka?


 

  












 

  














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RE: [scifinoir2] OT: Madonna Booed for Condeming Discrimination Against Roma

2009-08-29 Thread Martin Baxter

Humanity has always had the bad habit of fearing/destroying what it doesn't 
understand.

If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2009 02:16:24 +
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] OT: Madonna Booed for Condeming Discrimination 
Against Roma















 





  
that bad, huh? Too bad: they are often a very handsome people, with rich things 
to offer
- Original Message -
From: George Arterberry brotherfromhow...@yahoo.com
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 9:54:51 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] OT: Madonna Booed for Condeming Discrimination 
Against Roma







 





  While stationed in Bosnia/Croatia/Hungary I saw the pure hate 
directed towards them .
--- On Fri, 8/28/09, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com wrote:


From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com
Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] OT: Madonna Booed for Condeming Discrimination 
Against Roma
To: SciFiNoir2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, August 28, 2009, 8:20 AM


  

Keith, I'll answer you with very little. Humanity=pathetic.

If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=fQUxw9aUVik






To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com
From: KeithBJohnson@ comcast.net
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2009 05:05:58 +
Subject: [scifinoir2] OT: Madonna Booed for Condeming Discrimination Against 
Roma

  




Sad. I wonder how many Americans know anything about the Roma, outside of what 
they've seen in movies?

 * * * * ***
http://omg.yahoo. com/news/ madonna-booed- in-bucharest- for-defending- 
gypsies/26947? nc

BUCHAREST, Romania - At first, fans politely applauded the Roma performers 
sharing a stage with Madonna. Then the pop star condemned widespread 
discrimination against Roma, or Gypsies — and the cheers gave way to jeers.
The sharp mood change that swept the crowd of 60,000, who had packed a park for 
Wednesday night's concert, underscores how prejudice against Gypsies remains 
deeply entrenched across Eastern Europe.
Despite long-standing efforts to stamp out rampant bias, human rights advocates 
say Roma probably
 suffer more humiliation and endure more discrimination than any other people 
group on the continent.
Sometimes, it can be deadly: In neighboring Hungary, six Roma have been killed 
and several wounded in a recent series of apparently racially motivated attacks 
targeting small countryside villages predominantly settled by Gypsies.
There is generally widespread resentment against Gypsies in Eastern Europe. 
They have historically been the underdog, Radu Motoc, an official with the 
Soros Foundation Romania, said Thursday.
Roma, or Gypsies, are a nomadic ethnic group believed to have their roots in 
the Indian subcontinent. They live mostly in southern and eastern Europe, but 
hundreds of thousands have migrated west over the past few decades in search of 
jobs and better living conditions.
Romania has the largest number of Roma in the region. Some say the population 
could be as high as 2 million, although
 official data put it at 500,000.
Until the 19th century, Romanian Gypsies were slaves, and they've gotten a 
mixed response ever since: While discrimination is widespread, many East 
Europeans are enthusiastic about Gypsy music and dance, which they embrace as 
part of the region's cultural heritage.
That explains why the Roma musicians and a dancer who had briefly joined 
Madonna onstage got enthusiastic applause. And it also may explain why some in 
the crowd turned on Madonna when she paused during the two-hour show — a stop 
on her worldwide Sticky and Sweet tour — to touch on their plight.
It has been brought to my attention ... that there is a lot of discrimination 
against Romanies and Gypsies in general in Eastern Europe, she said. It made 
me feel very
 sad.
Thousands booed and jeered her.
A few cheered when she added: We don't believe in discrimination ... we 
believe in freedom and equal rights for everyone. But she got more boos when 
she mentioned discrimination against homosexuals and others.
I jeered her because it seemed false what she was telling us. What business 
does she have telling us these things? said Ionut Dinu, 23.
Madonna did not react and carried on with her concert, held near the hulking 
palace of the late communist dictator Nicolae Ceausescu.
Her publicist, Liz Rosenberg, said Madonna and other had told her there were 
cheers as well as jeers.
Madonna has been touring with a phenomenal troupe of Roma musicians who made 
her
 aware of the discrimination toward them in several countries so she felt 
compelled to make a brief statement, Rosenberg said

RE: [scifinoir2] signing off for a while

2009-08-29 Thread Martin Baxter

Our best rides with you, my friend. Come back strong. The Cosmos needs men such 
as you. 

If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: mcjennings...@yahoo.com
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2009 11:25:29 -0400
Subject: [scifinoir2] signing off for a while















 





  



Hello everybody: 
 
I have 
to leave you for a while.  Please keep my personal 
emails:
 
mcjennings...@yahoo.com
 
mcjenning...@comcast.net  
(spit!!!)   
 
I had a doctor's 
appointment  yesterday  
with my lung doc.  He scheduled me to see a  Thorasic 
Surgeon to set up a 
surgical biopsy.   (Isn't that 
a dinosaur park?  Oh!  That's 
JURassic!)
 
My appointment is Tuesday, 
Sept. 1.  I will find out when the 
surgical biopsy is then.  After the biopsy,  
3 - 5 weeks healing for 
NORMAL activities , or surgery, depending on 
the results. 
 
My lung doc said there are 
2 things he's trying to differentiate, and the PETSCAN  I had can't help him.
Sarcoids, which are benign 
lymph node issues, and Lymphoma, which is cancerous.
 
Either way, there are still 
treatment issues after the biopsy results are in.   
 
I will be in touch off and on, but for now I gotta 
leave ya!  Remember, y'all (y'all?)  are 
family!
 

Peace!
 
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Jennings 


 

  














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RE: [scifinoir2] Holy Casting Call, Batman!

2009-08-29 Thread Martin Baxter

(passing around bibs for all the menfolk)

If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: adrianne.bren...@gmail.com
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2009 13:14:26 -0400
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Holy Casting Call, Batman!















 





  My dream casting for Catwoman?

Eliza Dushku. She can do complex bad girl with an attitude, and she's wicked 
hot.
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On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 7:33 PM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com wrote:


























I agree but I doubt that they will. The only one that seems to take risks with 
casting is Tarantino and Zach Snyder. 

On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 8:08 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net 
wrote:























You know my feelings about stunt casting. I'm not convinced the child can act, 
and I sure as hell don't want her slinking on the screen just looking good in a 
catsuit. Catwoman is--should be--a more complex, nuanced character. Despite the 
Julie Newmar/Eartha Kitt/Lee Meriwether/Halle Berry portrayals, her character 
can be fascinating. I'm looking for something more like the Catwoman from the 
Year One books after the DC Universe reboot brought on by the Crisis on 
Infinite Earths.




Chris Nolan has mostly done great casting the Bat movies--with the horrible 
exception of Katie Holmes. I hope this is just gossip and he's not going to do 
this. Even if Catwoman is in the movie--and you know my vote is for Talia Al 
ghul instead--I'd hope he goes with a relative unknown actress who can actually 
bring some meat to the role.




- Original Message -
From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com
To: SciFiNoir2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com



Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 8:29:57 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: [scifinoir2] Holy Casting Call, Batman!







 





  


Because you didn't ask for it... Megan Fox is being considered for the role of 
Catwoman in Christopher Nolan's next Bat-flick...

http://wonderwall.msn.com/movies/The-Shortlist-for-Aug-26-3865.gallery?GT1=28135#m=oZghMddAdLu




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RE: [scifinoir2] Holy Casting Call, Batman!

2009-08-29 Thread Martin Baxter

WOOF! WoofwoofWOOF!

If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2009 15:19:06 -0700
Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Holy Casting Call, Batman!















 





  








DAWGS!!!  All of ya!  J

 





From:
scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Martin
Baxter

Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2009 3:11 PM

To: SciFiNoir2

Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Holy Casting Call, Batman!





 





(passing around bibs for all the menfolk)



If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in
bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik















To:
scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com

From: adrianne.bren...@gmail.com

Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2009 13:14:26 -0400

Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Holy Casting Call, Batman!



  







My
dream casting for Catwoman?



 





Eliza
Dushku. She can do complex bad girl with an attitude, and she's wicked hot.





 






~ Where love and magic meet ~

http://www.adriannebrennan.com

Experience the magic of Blood of the Dark Moon:  
http://www.adriannebrennan.com/botdm.html

Take a bite out of Blood and Mint Chocolates: 
http://www.adriannebrennan.com/bamc.html

Dare to take The Oath in this erotic fantasy series: 
http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#the_oath







On
Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 7:33 PM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com wrote:







I agree but I doubt that they will. The only one that seems to take risks with
casting is Tarantino and Zach Snyder. 



 



On
Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 8:08 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net
wrote:



 



You
know my feelings about stunt casting. I'm not convinced the child can act, and
I sure as hell don't want her slinking on the screen just looking good in a
catsuit. Catwoman is--should be--a more complex, nuanced character. Despite the
Julie Newmar/Eartha Kitt/Lee Meriwether/Halle Berry portrayals, her character
can be fascinating. I'm looking for something more like the Catwoman from the
Year One books after the DC Universe reboot brought on by the
Crisis on Infinite Earths.



Chris Nolan has mostly done great casting the Bat movies--with the horrible
exception of Katie Holmes. I hope this is just gossip and he's not going to do
this. Even if Catwoman is in the movie--and you know my vote is for Talia Al
ghul instead--I'd hope he goes with a relative unknown actress who can actually
bring some meat to the role.



- Original Message -

From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com

To: SciFiNoir2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 8:29:57 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern

Subject: [scifinoir2] Holy Casting Call, Batman!



  







Because you didn't ask for it... Megan Fox is being considered for
the role of Catwoman in Christopher Nolan's next Bat-flick...



http://wonderwall.msn.com/movies/The-Shortlist-for-Aug-26-3865.gallery?GT1=28135#m=oZghMddAdLu



If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in
bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik















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RE: [scifinoir2] Star Trek Generation

2009-08-30 Thread Martin Baxter

Maybe the Terminator Universe needs his help...

If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2009 04:59:52 +
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Star Trek Generation















 





  
A race of machines from the OS? I don't recall such, unless you're talking 
about the androids from I, Mudd? But they were reprogrammed to terraform the 
planet on which Mudd found them. There were androids in the episode What Are 
Little Girls Made Of? (the one where Roger Corbie creates an android duplicate 
of Kirk), but all of them were destroyed by show's end.

I can't recall any other sentient machines from the OS that either occupied a 
whole planet, or survived the battle of wits with Kirk that such machines 
usually had to face:

Kirk: Nomad! I am not The Kirk! You've made three mistakes! You are flawed. 
Execute your Prime Directive!
Nomad: 
Error...error...must...sterilize...imperfection...faulty...faulty...sterilize! 
sterilize  (KABOOM!!)  
   
Kirk: M5, how will you atone for the sin of murder?
M5:  This...unit...must...dieee...  (M5 turns itself off and drops ship's 
shields, awaiting destruction by the task force).

Kirk: You are NOT Landru. Landru died five thousand years ago. And the Body is 
dying--stagnating!
The Landru computer: Landru! Help me! Help me! Help me!  (Blows a gasket and 
shuts down amidst a bunch of smoke and sparks).


Kirk to Ruk: The danger to you is Corby...the Old Ones programmed you too, but 
it became possible to destroy them!
Ruk (to Corby): We had cleansed ourselves of them. Now you bring the evil 
back!. (Corby disintegrates the approaching Ruk, who, riled up by Kirk, was 
about to throttle his master).


- Original Message -
From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2009 10:27:05 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Star Trek Generation







 





  There was also a race of machines from the original series 
that lived on a planet that Kirk and Spock visited as well. Also there were a 
couple of other alien races that were of a higher intelligence that didn't want 
anything to do with the federation. However, they were a lot farther away than 
where Vger had traveled. 



On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 7:15 PM,  wlro...@aol.com wrote:






























I think it has something to do with 
Vger.
--Lavender




From: Mr. Worf 
Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2009 9:53 PM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Star Trek Generation

Speaking 
of the Borg I have always been curious about the origins of the Borg. Another 
storyline that was introduced was the race of dinosaurs that left earth in 
spaceships. 


On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 6:31 PM, wlro...@aol.com wrote:


  


  Shhh, the Borg Queen might be reading this same 
  email too. I mean she could have sent a virus in the future to go to the past 
  to become a member of this group to send her information and attempt destroy 
  the whole Federation. We have to be careful with this type of 
  things.
  --Lavender
  
  

  
  From: Keith Johnson 
  Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 10:58 PM
  To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
  Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Star Trek Generation
  

  Good 
  scene. But I could never cotton with the whole way the Klingons penetrated 
the 
  shields. Since when do you need to see a shield frequency on a console in 
  order to determine what it is? Surely a simple scan could detect shield 
  frequencies, just as sensors can always report that a ship brings up its 
  shields in the first place. I also don't understand how simply matching 
  frequencies allows a torpedo through. If it were that easy, all space battles 
  in the Trek universe would be short and sweet: simply scan the frequency, set 
  the weapon and poof! Shields are bypassed.

Okay, enough of the buzz 
  kill!


- Original Message -
From: Augustus Augustus 
  jazzynupe_...@yahoo.com
To: Sci Fi scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com

Cc: Black SciFi blackscifihorrorfantasyc...@yahoogroups.com
Sent: 
  Thursday, August 27, 2009 7:22:42 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: 
  [scifinoir2] Star Trek Generation

  
  
  
  
  

  


  Sitting here drinking my morning coffee getting ready 4 work 
and watching 'Star Trek: Generations' on HBO2.  The saucer section 
separates from the star drive section as the warp core breeches.  
the resulting shock wave knocks the saucer section out of orbit and 
into 
the atmosphere.  then u get classic Data.  he has the 
emotion chip activated and he is watching the view screen.   the 
camera shows his face - full on - and he smiles and says Oh 
shit!  simply classic!

Fate.   
  


  
  


  


RE: [scifinoir2] Star Trek Generation

2009-08-30 Thread Martin Baxter

Mr Worf, that sounds vaguely familiar. Still, I'm leaving the reply on this to 
Keith, as he is our Go-To Man on All Things Trek.

If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: hellomahog...@gmail.com
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2009 18:53:53 -0700
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Star Trek Generation















 





  Speaking of the Borg I have always been curious about the 
origins of the Borg. Another storyline that was introduced was the race of 
dinosaurs that left earth in spaceships. 


On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 6:31 PM,  wlro...@aol.com wrote:






























Shhh, the Borg Queen might be reading this same 
email too. I mean she could have sent a virus in the future to go to the past 
to 
become a member of this group to send her information and attempt destroy the 
whole Federation. We have to be careful with this type of 
things.
--Lavender




From: Keith Johnson 
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 10:58 PM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Star Trek Generation


Good scene. But 
I could never cotton with the whole way the Klingons penetrated the shields. 
Since when do you need to see a shield frequency on a console in order to 
determine what it is? Surely a simple scan could detect shield frequencies, 
just 
as sensors can always report that a ship brings up its shields in the first 
place. I also don't understand how simply matching frequencies allows a torpedo 
through. If it were that easy, all space battles in the Trek universe would be 
short and sweet: simply scan the frequency, set the weapon and poof! Shields 
are 
bypassed.

Okay, enough of the buzz kill!


- Original 
Message -
From: Augustus Augustus 
jazzynupe_...@yahoo.com
To: Sci Fi 
scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Cc: Black SciFi 
blackscifihorrorfantasyc...@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, August 
27, 2009 7:22:42 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: [scifinoir2] Star 
Trek Generation

  






  
  
Sitting here drinking my morning coffee getting ready 4 work 
  and watching 'Star Trek: Generations' on HBO2.  The saucer section 
  separates from the star drive section as the warp core breeches.  the 
  resulting shock wave knocks the saucer section out of orbit and into the 
  atmosphere.  then u get classic Data.  he has the 
  emotion chip activated and he is watching the view screen.   the 
  camera shows his face - full on - and he smiles and says Oh shit!  
  simply classic!

Fate.   






























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RE: [scifinoir2] Suicidal planet seems on death spiral into star

2009-08-30 Thread Martin Baxter

Mr Worf, reading this reminded me that we may not have that long...

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=when-milky-way-and-andromeda-collide-earth-could-find-itself-far-from-home

If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: hellomahog...@gmail.com
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2009 16:41:37 -0700
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Suicidal planet seems on death spiral into star















 





  About 4.5 Billion years give or take. 


On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 4:18 PM,  wlro...@aol.com wrote:

This is interesting, I think I heard somewhere that our sun only has so many

years left before it goes nova as well. But that so many years are a very

long way off.

--Lavender



--

From: ravenadal ravena...@yahoo.com

Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 1:29 PM

To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com

Subject: [scifinoir2] Suicidal planet seems on death spiral into star



 http://shuudu.notlong.com



 Suicidal planet seems on death spiral into star



 By SETH BORENSTEIN (AP) - 1 day ago



 WASHINGTON - Astronomers have found what appears to be a gigantic suicidal

 planet.



 The odd, fiery planet is so close to its star and so large that it is

 triggering tremendous plasma tides on the star. Those powerful tides are

 in turn warping the planet's zippy less-than-a-day orbit around its star.



 The result: an ever-closer tango of death, with the planet eventually

 spiraling into the star.



 It's a slow death. The planet WASP-18b has maybe a million years to live,

 said planet discoverer Coel Hellier, a professor of astrophysics at the

 Keele University in England. Hellier's report on the suicidal planet is in

 Thursday's issue of the journal Nature.



 It's causing its own destruction by creating these tides, Hellier said.



 The star is called WASP-18 and the planet is WASP-18b because of the Wide

 Angle Search for Planets team that found them.



 The planet circles a star that is in the constellation Phoenix and is

 about 325 light-years away from Earth, which means it is in our galactic

 neighborhood. A light-year is about 5.8 trillion miles.



 The planet is 1.9 million miles from its star, 1/50th of the distance

 between Earth and the sun, our star. And because of that the temperature

 is about 3,800 degrees.



 Its size - 10 times bigger than Jupiter - and its proximity to its star

 make it likely to die, Hellier said.



 Think of how the distant moon pulls Earth's oceans to form twice-daily

 tides. The effect the odd planet has on its star is thousands of times

 stronger, Hellier said. The star's tidal bulge of plasma may extend

 hundreds of miles, he said.



 Like most planets outside our solar system, this planet was not seen

 directly by a telescope. Astronomers found it by seeing dips in light from

 the star every time the planet came between the star and Earth.



 So far astronomers have found more than 370 planets outside the solar

 system. This one is yet another weird one in the exoplanet menagerie,

 said planet specialist Alan Boss of the Carnegie Institution of

 Washington.



 It's so unusual to find a suicidal planet that University of Maryland

 astronomer Douglas Hamilton questioned whether there was another

 explanation. While it is likely that this is a suicidal planet, Hamilton

 said it is also possible that some basic physics calculations that all

 astronomers rely on could be dead wrong.



 The answer will become apparent in less than a decade if the planet seems

 to be further in a death spiral, he said.











 



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RE: [scifinoir2] Holy Casting Call, Batman!

2009-08-30 Thread Martin Baxter

Oh! Miss Z!

If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: dar...@darylelockhart.com
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2009 18:47:18 -0400
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Holy Casting Call, Batman!















 





  
My dream casting? Not doing it at all. Bruce has a hot girl we are all 
forgetting. 
Magician? Ring any bells?
On Aug 29, 2009, at 6:19 PM, Tracey de Morsella 
tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com wrote:





 


  








DAWGS!!!  All of ya!  J

 





From:
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Martin
Baxter

Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2009 3:11 PM

To: SciFiNoir2

Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Holy Casting Call, Batman!





 





(passing around bibs for all the menfolk)



If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in
bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant



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Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2009 13:14:26 -0400

Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Holy Casting Call, Batman!



  







My
dream casting for Catwoman?



 





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I agree but I doubt that they will. The only one that seems to take risks with
casting is Tarantino and Zach Snyder. 



 



On
Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 8:08 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net
wrote:



 



You
know my feelings about stunt casting. I'm not convinced the child can act, and
I sure as hell don't want her slinking on the screen just looking good in a
catsuit. Catwoman is--should be--a more complex, nuanced character. Despite the
Julie Newmar/Eartha Kitt/Lee Meriwether/Halle Berry portrayals, her character
can be fascinating. I'm looking for something more like the Catwoman from the
Year One books after the DC Universe reboot brought on by the
Crisis on Infinite Earths.



Chris Nolan has mostly done great casting the Bat movies--with the horrible
exception of Katie Holmes. I hope this is just gossip and he's not going to do
this. Even if Catwoman is in the movie--and you know my vote is for Talia Al
ghul instead--I'd hope he goes with a relative unknown actress who can actually
bring some meat to the role.



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From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com

To: SciFiNoir2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 8:29:57 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern

Subject: [scifinoir2] Holy Casting Call, Batman!



  







Because you didn't ask for it... Megan Fox is being considered for
the role of Catwoman in Christopher Nolan's next Bat-flick...



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RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Keith, brace yourself...

2009-08-30 Thread Martin Baxter

So happy to save you the pain and misery, Tracey! Wish I could've done the same 
for you, Angela -- so sorry to hear that you suffered doubly.

And, speaking of horrid, everlasting misery, did anyone catch the truly 
soul-punishing Mega Shark vs Giant Octopus? (Brief non-spoiler spoiler -- it 
was so abysmal that I *couldn't* Mistie it continuously.) More headshaking than 
anything else. Deborah Gibson did, however, hold her own, after a fashion, IMO.

If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2009 11:39:12 -0700
Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Keith, brace yourself...















 





  Fortunately, you I was able to miss it because of the early 
warning given on

the list.  We get it three hours after you guys.  I hate clip shows



-Original Message-

From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On

Behalf Of angelababycat

Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2009 8:11 AM

To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com

Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Keith, brace yourself...



Not only was it bad, but it put me in such a deep sleep that when I woke up,

it was on again!!!  



Angela



--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@... wrote:



 

 I'm sorry you missed it as well, Keith. Easily. The. Worst. Ep. EVER.

 

 If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in

bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

 

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik

 

 

 

 

 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com

 From: keithbjohn...@...

 Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2009 04:11:23 +

 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Keith, brace yourself...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

  

 

 

 

 

 

   

 Sorry I didn't see this earlier! It'd have saved me from posting when

you'd already done so, and it'd have save me the fifteen minutes of my life

i wasted on that !!!  :(

 

 - Original Message -

 From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@...

 To: SciFiNoir2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com

 Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 9:09:35 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern

 Subject: [scifinoir2] Keith, brace yourself...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

  

 

 

 

 

 

   

 

 

 If you're watching this, then you already know. For those who aren't --

Eureka tonight seems to be a CLIP SHOW. 

 

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bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

 

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RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Suicidal planet seems on death spiral into star

2009-08-30 Thread Martin Baxter

LMNAO!!

If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: ravena...@yahoo.com
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2009 13:42:20 +
Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Suicidal planet seems on death spiral into star















 





  Which reminds me of an old Keith Olbermann line when he was 
still on ESPN's Sportscenter program.  He would read that a team had listed an 
injured athlete as day-to-day before looking at the camera and remarking: 
aren't we all.



~rave!



--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@... wrote:



 

 Mr Worf, reading this reminded me that we may not have that long...

 

 http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=when-milky-way-and-andromeda-collide-earth-could-find-itself-far-from-home

 

 If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
 hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

 

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik

 

 

 

 

 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com

 From: hellomahog...@...

 Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2009 16:41:37 -0700

 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Suicidal planet seems on death spiral into star

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

  

 

 

 

 

 

   About 4.5 Billion years give or take. 

 

 

 On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 4:18 PM,  wlro...@... wrote:

 

 This is interesting, I think I heard somewhere that our sun only has so many

 

 years left before it goes nova as well. But that so many years are a very

 

 long way off.

 

 --Lavender

 

 

 

 --

 

 From: ravenadal ravena...@...

 

 Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 1:29 PM

 

 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com

 

 Subject: [scifinoir2] Suicidal planet seems on death spiral into star

 

 

 

  http://shuudu.notlong.com

 

 

 

  Suicidal planet seems on death spiral into star

 

 

 

  By SETH BORENSTEIN (AP) - 1 day ago

 

 

 

  WASHINGTON - Astronomers have found what appears to be a gigantic suicidal

 

  planet.

 

 

 

  The odd, fiery planet is so close to its star and so large that it is

 

  triggering tremendous plasma tides on the star. Those powerful tides are

 

  in turn warping the planet's zippy less-than-a-day orbit around its star.

 

 

 

  The result: an ever-closer tango of death, with the planet eventually

 

  spiraling into the star.

 

 

 

  It's a slow death. The planet WASP-18b has maybe a million years to live,

 

  said planet discoverer Coel Hellier, a professor of astrophysics at the

 

  Keele University in England. Hellier's report on the suicidal planet is in

 

  Thursday's issue of the journal Nature.

 

 

 

  It's causing its own destruction by creating these tides, Hellier said.

 

 

 

  The star is called WASP-18 and the planet is WASP-18b because of the Wide

 

  Angle Search for Planets team that found them.

 

 

 

  The planet circles a star that is in the constellation Phoenix and is

 

  about 325 light-years away from Earth, which means it is in our galactic

 

  neighborhood. A light-year is about 5.8 trillion miles.

 

 

 

  The planet is 1.9 million miles from its star, 1/50th of the distance

 

  between Earth and the sun, our star. And because of that the temperature

 

  is about 3,800 degrees.

 

 

 

  Its size - 10 times bigger than Jupiter - and its proximity to its star

 

  make it likely to die, Hellier said.

 

 

 

  Think of how the distant moon pulls Earth's oceans to form twice-daily

 

  tides. The effect the odd planet has on its star is thousands of times

 

  stronger, Hellier said. The star's tidal bulge of plasma may extend

 

  hundreds of miles, he said.

 

 

 

  Like most planets outside our solar system, this planet was not seen

 

  directly by a telescope. Astronomers found it by seeing dips in light from

 

  the star every time the planet came between the star and Earth.

 

 

 

  So far astronomers have found more than 370 planets outside the solar

 

  system. This one is yet another weird one in the exoplanet menagerie,

 

  said planet specialist Alan Boss of the Carnegie Institution of

 

  Washington.

 

 

 

  It's so unusual to find a suicidal planet that University of Maryland

 

  astronomer Douglas Hamilton questioned whether there was another

 

  explanation. While it is likely that this is a suicidal planet, Hamilton

 

  said it is also possible that some basic physics calculations that all

 

  astronomers rely on could be dead wrong.

 

 

 

  The answer will become apparent in less than a decade if the planet seems

 

  to be further in a death spiral, he said.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

  

 

 

 

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RE: [scifinoir2] Movie review: Lady Vengeance

2009-08-31 Thread Martin Baxter

Twisted revenge flick... I'm there. May pick up a few pointers.

If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: hellomahog...@gmail.com
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2009 02:02:11 -0700
Subject: [scifinoir2] Movie review: Lady Vengeance















 





  Looking at the trailer, and some of the promotional pictures 
for this film many people (including myself) may have mistaken this film for an 
action film. Upon view Lady Vengeance, we would have quickly discovered that we 
were COMPLETELY wrong. The complete title is 'Sympathy for Lady Vengeance' is 
part 3 of a trilogy of revenge films directed by Chan-wook Park. Each film has 
its own storyline and can be watched separately on its own. I suggest not 
viewing this film and trying to go to bed afterward. You may want to spend some 
time talking about it afterward.


Lady Vengeance is the story of a woman that takes the rap for the kidnapping 
and murder of a 5yr old boy for reasons I cannot divulge. She does so willingly 
slowly suffering on a slow boil slowly plotting revenge on the person that put 
her there. This is a woman on a mission. She serves 13 years in a prison for 
the criminally insane and as soon as she is released, she is off to work. 


Park is a master story teller that can lull you into a false sense of direction 
making you forget just how twisted he is. He also has a good cinematic eye and 
a knack for latching onto strong sensitive topics that pull at your heart and 
mind while wallowing in it like a pig in an Olympic size swimming pool. 


The only weak spot in the film was a period near the middle where we spend time 
getting to know some of the favors that Lady Vengeance earns while she is in 
prison. 

Overall it is an interesting film with an even more interesting / 
psychologically challenging ending that will challenge your thinking about the 
justice system, the media, and the public's views on criminality.


4 out of 5 stars

99% Korean and 1% English.   English subtitles. 

Available on Netflix. 
Cons: No martial art action. Very little gun play. Very little sex. No nudity. 

Pros: Twisted revenge flick. Great ending that will make you think. 






 

  














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RE: [scifinoir2] Futurama!!!

2009-08-31 Thread Martin Baxter

Old age strikes again...

If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: hellomahog...@gmail.com
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2009 21:02:38 -0700
Subject: [scifinoir2] Futurama!!!















 





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RE: [scifinoir2] Fwd: Golden Age of Comics - Plastic Man 04, 05, 06 - 8/30/09

2009-08-31 Thread Martin Baxter

Thank you, Mr Worf!

If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: hellomahog...@gmail.com
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2009 19:29:46 -0700
Subject: [scifinoir2] Fwd: Golden Age of Comics - Plastic Man 04, 05, 06 - 
8/30/09 [3 Attachments]















 





  
[Attachment(s) from Mr. Worf included below]
  


  






 From the Golden Age of Comics, more

Plastic Man v1 04 [1946]

http://www.4shared.com/file/128891115/8318d5c9/Plastic_Man_v1_04_1946.html

Plastic Man v1 05 [1946]

http://www.4shared.com/file/128892529/b43fcd13/Plastic_Man_v1_05_1946.html

Plastic Man v1 06 [1947]

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RE: [scifinoir2] Holy Casting Call, Batman!

2009-08-31 Thread Martin Baxter

(one more for Adrianne, and apologies for being male-centric) ;-D

If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: adrianne.bren...@gmail.com
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2009 19:36:48 -0400
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Holy Casting Call, Batman!















 





  Hey, I could use one too! XD
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On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 6:11 PM, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com 
wrote:



























(passing around bibs for all the menfolk)

If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik






To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: adrianne.bren...@gmail.com


Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2009 13:14:26 -0400
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Holy Casting Call, Batman!















 





  My dream casting for Catwoman?

Eliza Dushku. She can do complex bad girl with an attitude, and she's wicked 
hot.
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http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#the_oath







On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 7:33 PM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com wrote:




























I agree but I doubt that they will. The only one that seems to take risks with 
casting is Tarantino and Zach Snyder. 

On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 8:08 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net 
wrote:

























You know my feelings about stunt casting. I'm not convinced the child can act, 
and I sure as hell don't want her slinking on the screen just looking good in a 
catsuit. Catwoman is--should be--a more complex, nuanced character. Despite the 
Julie Newmar/Eartha Kitt/Lee Meriwether/Halle Berry portrayals, her character 
can be fascinating. I'm looking for something more like the Catwoman from the 
Year One books after the DC Universe reboot brought on by the Crisis on 
Infinite Earths.






Chris Nolan has mostly done great casting the Bat movies--with the horrible 
exception of Katie Holmes. I hope this is just gossip and he's not going to do 
this. Even if Catwoman is in the movie--and you know my vote is for Talia Al 
ghul instead--I'd hope he goes with a relative unknown actress who can actually 
bring some meat to the role.






- Original Message -
From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com
To: SciFiNoir2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com





Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 8:29:57 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: [scifinoir2] Holy Casting Call, Batman!







 





  


Because you didn't ask for it... Megan Fox is being considered for the role of 
Catwoman in Christopher Nolan's next Bat-flick...

http://wonderwall.msn.com/movies/The-Shortlist-for-Aug-26-3865.gallery?GT1=28135#m=oZghMddAdLu






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RE: [scifinoir2] Disney to buy Marvel Entertainment for $4 billion

2009-08-31 Thread Martin Baxter

Sweet Christmas! This could mean that Tobey Maguire would do a turn as PP on 
The Suite Life On Deck as a visiting pyhsics teacher.

Excuse me while I go catatonic...

If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: ravena...@yahoo.com
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2009 13:56:47 +
Subject: [scifinoir2] Disney to buy Marvel Entertainment for $4 billion















 





  This is Christmas early for the stock holders at Marvel 
Entertainment.  It is the death knell for a lot of great characters.



~(no)rave!



August 31, 2009, 9:27 am

Disney to Buy Marvel Entertainment for $4 Billion



The Walt Disney Company said on Monday that it has agreed to buy Marvel 
Entertainment, bringing together the house of Mickey Mouse with the publisher 
of Spider-Man, for $4 billion in cash and stock.



Under the terms of the deal, Disney will pay $30 a share in cash and .745 
Disney shares for every Marvel share, with no less than 40 percent of the deal 
being made in stock. Disney valued the deal at $50 a share as of the companies' 
share prices on Friday.



Isaac Perlmutter, Marvel's chief executive, will continue to oversee his 
company's properties, including more than 5,000 characters that also include 
Iron Man and the X-Men.



Marvel has had a string of successful movies based on its characters, which 
analysts have praised in part for the company's taking an active role in their 
production.



This transaction combines Marvel's strong global brand and world-renowned 
library of characters including Iron Man, Spider-Man, X-Men, Captain America, 
Fantastic Four and Thor with Disney's creative skills, unparalleled global 
portfolio of entertainment properties, and a business structure that maximizes 
the value of creative properties across multiple platforms and territories, 
Robert A. Iger, Disney's chief executive, said in a statement.



Disney is the perfect home for Marvel's fantastic library of characters given 
its proven ability to expand content creation and licensing businesses, Mr. 
Perlmutter said.





 

  














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RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Holy Casting Call, Batman!

2009-08-31 Thread Martin Baxter

Moon BloodGOOOD!

If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: daikaij...@yahoo.com
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2009 15:29:29 +
Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Holy Casting Call, Batman!















 





  I think you're a bit hard on Moon. she was pretty good in 
Terminator: Salvation and she seems to be a bit of a hot commodity right now. 
She's not a great actress but she might have the right mix of skills for the 
role. Unfortuantely I think she's commited to a tv series.



Maggie Q can actually act a lil bit. For real. LOL.



--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Omari Confer clockwork...@... wrote:



 I agree with your first pick and disagree on your other 2...Moon is another

 that is only really working because she can read lines and is moderately

 attractive

 

 I think Eliza is pretty...but not Mila Jovich prettymeaning that it

 doesnt matter at all that she cant act because she is incredibly hot.

 Neither Eliza nor Mila nor Moon can actrealtalk

 

 On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 9:57 AM, daikaiju66 daikaij...@... wrote:

 

 

 

  Eliza is pretty enough but she is a bit lightweight in the acting

  department.

 

  My picks:

  Rosario Dawson. Nuff said.

 

  Maggie Q. She was in Mission Impossible 3, Live Free or Die Hard and a ton

  of movies from Hong Kong. Her exotic looks(she's biracial- Asian and

  Caucasian), solid acting and action movie resume make her a good fit.

 

  Moon Bloodgood. Fits in the same box as Maggie Q in a lot of ways but with

  better name recognition. Unfortunately she's in her early 30s so that may be

  too old for Hollywood.

 

  --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com, Adrianne

  Brennan adrianne.brennan@ wrote:

  

   Completely disagree. :)

   ~ Where love and magic meet ~

   http://www.adriannebrennan.com

   Experience the magic of Blood of the Dark Moon:

   http://www.adriannebrennan.com/botdm.html

   Take a bite out of Blood and Mint Chocolates:

   http://www.adriannebrennan.com/bamc.html

   Dare to take The Oath in this erotic fantasy series:

   http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#the_oath

  

  

   On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 8:56 AM, Omari Confer clockworkman@wrote:

  

   

   

Eliza cant act.and is not pretty enough not to do so...real talk

   

   

On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 12:14 PM, Adrianne Brennan 

adrianne.brennan@ wrote:

   

   

   

My dream casting for Catwoman?

   

Eliza Dushku. She can do complex bad girl with an attitude, and she's

wicked hot.

   

   

~ Where love and magic meet ~

http://www.adriannebrennan.com

Experience the magic of Blood of the Dark Moon:

http://www.adriannebrennan.com/botdm.html

Take a bite out of Blood and Mint Chocolates:

http://www.adriannebrennan.com/bamc.html

Dare to take The Oath in this erotic fantasy series:

http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#the_oath

   

   

On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 7:33 PM, Mr. Worf HelloMahogany@wrote:

   

   

   

I agree but I doubt that they will. The only one that seems to take

  risks

with casting is Tarantino and Zach Snyder.

   

On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 8:08 PM, Keith Johnson 

KeithBJohnson@ wrote:

   

   

   

You know my feelings about stunt casting. I'm not convinced the

  child

can act, and I sure as hell don't want her slinking on the screen

  just

looking good in a catsuit. Catwoman is--should be--a more complex,

  nuanced

character. Despite the Julie Newmar/Eartha Kitt/Lee Meriwether/Halle

  Berry

portrayals, her character can be fascinating. I'm looking for

  something more

like the Catwoman from the Year One books after the DC Universe

  reboot

brought on by the Crisis on Infinite Earths.

   

Chris Nolan has mostly done great casting the Bat movies--with the

horrible exception of Katie Holmes. I hope this is just gossip and

  he's not

going to do this. Even if Catwoman is in the movie--and you know my

  vote is

for Talia Al ghul instead--I'd hope he goes with a relative unknown

  actress

who can actually bring some meat to the role.

   

- Original Message -

From: Martin Baxter truthseeker013@

To: SciFiNoir2 
scifinoir2@yahoogroups.comscifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com

  

Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 8:29:57 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada

  Eastern

Subject: [scifinoir2] Holy Casting Call, Batman!

   

   

   

Because you didn't ask for it... Megan Fox is being considered for

  the

role of Catwoman in Christopher Nolan's next Bat-flick...

   

   

   

  http://wonderwall.msn.com/movies/The-Shortlist-for-Aug-26-3865.gallery?GT1=28135#m=oZghMddAdLu

   

If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players

RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Holy Casting Call, Batman!

2009-08-31 Thread Martin Baxter

Forgive me, Gabrielle! I have sinned against you by looking to another. Forgive 
me...

If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: brotherfromhow...@yahoo.com
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2009 08:35:19 -0700
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Holy Casting Call, Batman!















 





  Not feeling Ms. Dawson. Don't really need a name for this 
one. But we could go old school and have Gabrielle Union.Remember who was the 
first .Ms. Kitt herself?
 
 
 
 


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From: ravenadal ravena...@yahoo.com
Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Holy Casting Call, Batman!
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, August 31, 2009, 11:17 AM


  

Say Rosario Dawson again. 

~rave!

(Banzai: Mufasa!
Shenzi: Ooooh! Do it again!
Banzai: Mufasa!
Shenzi: Ooooh!
Banzai: Mufasa, Mufasa, Mufasa!
Shenzi: Ooooh!
[breaks into laughter]
Shenzi: And it tingles me!

~The Lion King)

--- In scifino...@yahoogro ups.com, daikaiju66 daikaiju66@ ... wrote:

 Eliza is pretty enough but she is a bit lightweight in the acting department.
 
 My picks:
 Rosario Dawson. Nuff said.
 
 Maggie Q. She was in Mission Impossible 3, Live Free or Die Hard and a ton of 
 movies from Hong Kong. Her exotic looks(she's biracial- Asian and 
 Caucasian), solid acting and action movie resume make her a good fit.
 
 Moon Bloodgood. Fits in the same box as
 Maggie Q in a lot of ways but with better name recognition. Unfortunately 
she's in her early 30s so that may be too old for Hollywood.
 
 --- In scifino...@yahoogro ups.com, Adrianne Brennan adrianne.brennan@  
 wrote:
 
  Completely disagree. :)
  ~ Where love and magic meet ~
  http://www.adrianne brennan.com
  Experience the magic of Blood of the Dark Moon:
  http://www.adrianne brennan.com/ botdm.html
  Take a bite out of Blood and Mint Chocolates:
  http://www.adrianne brennan.com/ bamc.html
  Dare to take The Oath in this erotic fantasy series:
  http://www.adrianne brennan.com/ books.html# the_oath
  
  
  On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 8:56 AM, Omari Confer clockworkman@ wrote:
  
  
  
   Eliza cant act.and is not pretty enough not to do so...real talk
  
  
   On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 12:14 PM, Adrianne Brennan 
   adrianne.brennan@  wrote:
  
  
  
   My dream casting for Catwoman?
  
   Eliza Dushku. She can do complex bad girl with an attitude, and she's
   wicked hot.

  
  
   ~ Where love and magic meet ~
   http://www.adrianne brennan.com
   Experience the magic of Blood of the Dark Moon:
   http://www.adrianne brennan.com/ botdm.html
   Take a bite out of Blood and Mint Chocolates:
   http://www.adrianne brennan.com/ bamc.html
   Dare to take The Oath in this erotic fantasy series:
   http://www.adrianne brennan.com/ books.html# the_oath
  
  
   On Fri,
 Aug 28, 2009 at 7:33 PM, Mr. Worf HelloMahogany@ wrote:
  
  
  
   I agree but I doubt that they will. The only one that seems to take 
   risks
   with casting is Tarantino and Zach Snyder.
  
   On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 8:08 PM, Keith Johnson 
   KeithBJohnson@  wrote:
  
  
  
   You know my feelings about stunt casting. I'm not convinced the child
   can act, and I sure as hell don't want her slinking on the screen just
   looking good in a catsuit. Catwoman is--should be--a more complex, 
   nuanced
   character. Despite the Julie Newmar/Eartha Kitt/Lee Meriwether/Halle
 Berry
   portrayals, her character can be fascinating. I'm looking for 
   something more
   like the Catwoman from the Year One books after the DC Universe 
   reboot
   brought on by the Crisis on Infinite Earths.
  
   Chris Nolan has mostly done great casting the Bat movies--with the
   horrible exception of Katie Holmes. I hope this is just gossip and 
   he's not
   going to do this. Even if Catwoman is in the movie--and you know my 
   vote is
   for Talia Al ghul instead--I'd hope he goes with a relative unknown 
   actress
   who can actually bring some meat to the role.
  
   - Original Message -
   From: Martin Baxter
 truthseeker013@ 
   To: SciFiNoir2 scifino...@yahoogro ups.com
   Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 8:29:57 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
   Subject: [scifinoir2] Holy Casting Call, Batman!
  
  
  
   Because you didn't ask for it... Megan Fox is being considered for the
   role of Catwoman in Christopher Nolan's next Bat-flick...
  
  
   http://wonderwall. msn.com/movies/ The-Shortlist- for-Aug-26- 
   3865.gallery? GT1=28135# m=oZghMddAdLu
  
   If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in
   bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant
  
   http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=fQUxw9aUVik
  
  
  
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RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Disney to buy Marvel Entertainment for $4 billion

2009-08-31 Thread Martin Baxter

Right, forgot about that. Thanks for nudging an old geezer's memory.

If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: daikaij...@yahoo.com
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2009 16:22:01 +
Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Disney to buy Marvel Entertainment for $4 billion















 





  Nope. Fox still owns Toby and the Spider-Man film franchise.



One silver lining: Part of the deal involves possible Marvel-Pixar 
collaborations. Yes



--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@... wrote:



 

 Sweet Christmas! This could mean that Tobey Maguire would do a turn as PP on 
 The Suite Life On Deck as a visiting pyhsics teacher.

 

 Excuse me while I go catatonic...

 

 If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
 hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

 

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik

 

 

 

 

 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com

 From: ravena...@...

 Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2009 13:56:47 +

 Subject: [scifinoir2] Disney to buy Marvel Entertainment for $4 billion

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

  

 

 

 

 

 

   This is Christmas early for the stock holders at Marvel 
 Entertainment.  It is the death knell for a lot of great characters.

 

 

 

 ~(no)rave!

 

 

 

 August 31, 2009, 9:27 am

 

 Disney to Buy Marvel Entertainment for $4 Billion

 

 

 

 The Walt Disney Company said on Monday that it has agreed to buy Marvel 
 Entertainment, bringing together the house of Mickey Mouse with the publisher 
 of Spider-Man, for $4 billion in cash and stock.

 

 

 

 Under the terms of the deal, Disney will pay $30 a share in cash and .745 
 Disney shares for every Marvel share, with no less than 40 percent of the 
 deal being made in stock. Disney valued the deal at $50 a share as of the 
 companies' share prices on Friday.

 

 

 

 Isaac Perlmutter, Marvel's chief executive, will continue to oversee his 
 company's properties, including more than 5,000 characters that also include 
 Iron Man and the X-Men.

 

 

 

 Marvel has had a string of successful movies based on its characters, which 
 analysts have praised in part for the company's taking an active role in 
 their production.

 

 

 

 This transaction combines Marvel's strong global brand and world-renowned 
 library of characters including Iron Man, Spider-Man, X-Men, Captain America, 
 Fantastic Four and Thor with Disney's creative skills, unparalleled global 
 portfolio of entertainment properties, and a business structure that 
 maximizes the value of creative properties across multiple platforms and 
 territories, Robert A. Iger, Disney's chief executive, said in a statement.

 

 

 

 Disney is the perfect home for Marvel's fantastic library of characters 
 given its proven ability to expand content creation and licensing 
 businesses, Mr. Perlmutter said.

 

 

 

 

 

  

 

   

 

 

 

   

   

   

   

 

 

   

 

 

   

   

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RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Holy Casting Call, Batman!

2009-08-31 Thread Martin Baxter

When did they do porn in The Lion King?

If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: ravena...@yahoo.com
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2009 15:17:40 +
Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Holy Casting Call, Batman!















 





  Say Rosario Dawson again.  



~rave!



(Banzai: Mufasa!

Shenzi: Ooooh! Do it again!

Banzai: Mufasa!

Shenzi: Ooooh!

Banzai: Mufasa, Mufasa, Mufasa!

Shenzi: Ooooh!

[breaks into laughter]

Shenzi: And it tingles me!



~The Lion King)



--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, daikaiju66 daikaij...@... wrote:



 Eliza is pretty enough but she is a bit lightweight in the acting department.

 

 My picks:

 Rosario Dawson. Nuff said.

 

 Maggie Q. She was in Mission Impossible 3, Live Free or Die Hard and a ton of 
 movies from Hong Kong. Her exotic looks(she's biracial- Asian and 
 Caucasian), solid acting and action movie resume make her a good fit.

 

 Moon Bloodgood. Fits in the same box as Maggie Q in a lot of ways but with 
 better name recognition. Unfortunately she's in her early 30s so that may be 
 too old for Hollywood.

 

 --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Adrianne Brennan adrianne.brennan@ wrote:

 

  Completely disagree. :)

  ~ Where love and magic meet ~

  http://www.adriannebrennan.com

  Experience the magic of Blood of the Dark Moon:

  http://www.adriannebrennan.com/botdm.html

  Take a bite out of Blood and Mint Chocolates:

  http://www.adriannebrennan.com/bamc.html

  Dare to take The Oath in this erotic fantasy series:

  http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#the_oath

  

  

  On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 8:56 AM, Omari Confer clockworkman@wrote:

  

  

  

   Eliza cant act.and is not pretty enough not to do so...real talk

  

  

   On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 12:14 PM, Adrianne Brennan 

   adrianne.brennan@ wrote:

  

  

  

   My dream casting for Catwoman?

  

   Eliza Dushku. She can do complex bad girl with an attitude, and she's

   wicked hot.

  

  

   ~ Where love and magic meet ~

   http://www.adriannebrennan.com

   Experience the magic of Blood of the Dark Moon:

   http://www.adriannebrennan.com/botdm.html

   Take a bite out of Blood and Mint Chocolates:

   http://www.adriannebrennan.com/bamc.html

   Dare to take The Oath in this erotic fantasy series:

   http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#the_oath

  

  

On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 7:33 PM, Mr. Worf HelloMahogany@wrote:

  

  

  

   I agree but I doubt that they will. The only one that seems to take 
   risks

   with casting is Tarantino and Zach Snyder.

  

   On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 8:08 PM, Keith Johnson 

   KeithBJohnson@ wrote:

  

  

  

   You know my feelings about stunt casting. I'm not convinced the child

   can act, and I sure as hell don't want her slinking on the screen just

   looking good in a catsuit. Catwoman is--should be--a more complex, 
   nuanced

   character. Despite the Julie Newmar/Eartha Kitt/Lee Meriwether/Halle 
   Berry

   portrayals, her character can be fascinating. I'm looking for 
   something more

   like the Catwoman from the Year One books after the DC Universe 
   reboot

   brought on by the Crisis on Infinite Earths.

  

   Chris Nolan has mostly done great casting the Bat movies--with the

   horrible exception of Katie Holmes. I hope this is just gossip and 
   he's not

   going to do this. Even if Catwoman is in the movie--and you know my 
   vote is

   for Talia Al ghul instead--I'd hope he goes with a relative unknown 
   actress

   who can actually bring some meat to the role.

  

   - Original Message -

   From: Martin Baxter truthseeker013@

   To: SciFiNoir2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com

   Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 8:29:57 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern

   Subject: [scifinoir2] Holy Casting Call, Batman!

  

  

  

   Because you didn't ask for it... Megan Fox is being considered for the

   role of Catwoman in Christopher Nolan's next Bat-flick...

  

  

   http://wonderwall.msn.com/movies/The-Shortlist-for-Aug-26-3865.gallery?GT1=28135#m=oZghMddAdLu

  

   If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in

   bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

  

   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik

  

  

  

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RE: [scifinoir2] Disney to buy Marvel Entertainment for $4 billion

2009-08-31 Thread Martin Baxter

Here's a thought, certain to scare you all out of a week's growth.

They keep the Avengers movie on the sched, but, as Cap and the Wasp, they 
cast...

Wait for it...

Zac Efron and Vanessa Hudgins.

Martin (evil gets out from time to time)

If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: brotherfromhow...@yahoo.com
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2009 07:32:04 -0700
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Disney to buy Marvel Entertainment for $4 billion















 





  Well there goes the Avengers movie.

--- On Mon, 8/31/09, ravenadal ravena...@yahoo.com wrote:


From: ravenadal ravena...@yahoo.com
Subject: [scifinoir2] Disney to buy Marvel Entertainment for $4 billion
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, August 31, 2009, 9:56 AM


  

This is Christmas early for the stock holders at Marvel Entertainment. It is 
the death knell for a lot of great characters.

~(no)rave!

August 31, 2009, 9:27 am
Disney to Buy Marvel Entertainment for $4 Billion

The Walt Disney Company said on Monday that it has agreed to buy Marvel 
Entertainment, bringing together the house of Mickey Mouse with the publisher 
of Spider-Man, for $4 billion in cash and stock.

Under the terms of the deal, Disney will pay $30 a share in cash and .745 
Disney shares for every Marvel share, with no less than 40 percent of the deal 
being made in stock. Disney valued the deal at $50 a share as of the companies' 
share prices on Friday.

Isaac Perlmutter, Marvel's chief executive, will continue to oversee his 
company's properties, including more than 5,000 characters that also include 
Iron Man and the X-Men.

Marvel has had a string of successful movies based on its characters, which
 analysts have praised in part for the company's taking an active role in their 
production.

This transaction combines Marvel's strong global brand and world-renowned 
library of characters including Iron Man, Spider-Man, X-Men, Captain America, 
Fantastic Four and Thor with Disney's creative skills, unparalleled global 
portfolio of entertainment properties, and a business structure that maximizes 
the value of creative properties across multiple platforms and territories,  
Robert A. Iger, Disney's chief executive, said in a statement.

Disney is the perfect home for Marvel's fantastic library of characters given 
its proven ability to expand content creation and licensing businesses, Mr. 
Perlmutter said.




  

 

  














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