Re: SD L body window parts needed
IIRC, doors, hoods, grilles, and fenders from early L-bodies are different from later models. I think the switch actually happened in 1983, and not 1980. Doors and fenders are not interchangeable (easily) between the two model year sets, except in complete sets, which is probably not worth it. On 13 Apr 2009 at 10:26, Barry Goodall wrote: Another possible fix might be to switch doors from a later model. While it may be tough to find a set of clean donor doors, at least in the future the replacement parts could come from a larger base. Barry I've had an ongoing issue with the same thing but mine is a little harder to fix. There's a metal plate that grabs a hold of a runner keeping this mechanism on track. If it loses grip it'll go up or down but nothing keeps it from falling forward. I bought a used one recently to fix my window issue but discovered something unusual. On the very early model that I have (a 1979 Omni) the inner door assembly is completely different than the ones used in the more more common mid 1980's models (and it's too different to be adapted properly). Now I need to ask the collective if anyone has access to a driver side 1978 or 1979 Omni door that has a properly functioning window mechanism. I could really use these inner parts, unfortunately the later years from 1980 to 1990 won't work. David Salamone Positive Impressions shelbydo...@mindspring.com ___REMOVE-FOOTER-WHEN-REPLYING_ ShelbyDodge mailing list ShelbyDodge@imagilist.com http://www.imagilist.com/mailman/listinfo/shelbydodge Neil V. Emiro ___REMOVE-FOOTER-WHEN-REPLYING_ ShelbyDodge mailing list ShelbyDodge@imagilist.com http://www.imagilist.com/mailman/listinfo/shelbydodge
Re: SD L body window parts needed
I believe doors are the same, fenders and cowl panel changed early 83 model year. Probably when the 83½ Shelby Chargers came out. Under hood, the location of the washer bottle and fresh air intake for the a/c changed also. - Original Message - From: Neil Emiro n...@ndperformance.com To: shelbydodge@imagilist.com Sent: Monday, April 13, 2009 10:47 AM Subject: Re: SD L body window parts needed IIRC, doors, hoods, grilles, and fenders from early L-bodies are different from later models. I think the switch actually happened in 1983, and not 1980. Doors and fenders are not interchangeable (easily) between the two model year sets, except in complete sets, which is probably not worth it. On 13 Apr 2009 at 10:26, Barry Goodall wrote: Another possible fix might be to switch doors from a later model. While it may be tough to find a set of clean donor doors, at least in the future the replacement parts could come from a larger base. Barry I've had an ongoing issue with the same thing but mine is a little harder to fix. There's a metal plate that grabs a hold of a runner keeping this mechanism on track. If it loses grip it'll go up or down but nothing keeps it from falling forward. I bought a used one recently to fix my window issue but discovered something unusual. On the very early model that I have (a 1979 Omni) the inner door assembly is completely different than the ones used in the more more common mid 1980's models (and it's too different to be adapted properly). Now I need to ask the collective if anyone has access to a driver side 1978 or 1979 Omni door that has a properly functioning window mechanism. I could really use these inner parts, unfortunately the later years from 1980 to 1990 won't work. David Salamone Positive Impressions shelbydo...@mindspring.com ___REMOVE-FOOTER-WHEN-REPLYING_ ShelbyDodge mailing list ShelbyDodge@imagilist.com http://www.imagilist.com/mailman/listinfo/shelbydodge Neil V. Emiro ___REMOVE-FOOTER-WHEN-REPLYING_ ShelbyDodge mailing list ShelbyDodge@imagilist.com http://www.imagilist.com/mailman/listinfo/shelbydodge ___REMOVE-FOOTER-WHEN-REPLYING_ ShelbyDodge mailing list ShelbyDodge@imagilist.com http://www.imagilist.com/mailman/listinfo/shelbydodge
Re: SD L body window parts needed
I believe doors are the same, fenders and cowl panel changed early 83 model year. Probably when the 83½ Shelby Chargers came out. Under hood, the location of the washer bottle and fresh air intake for the a/c changed also. For my situation, being a four door instead of a two door that doesn't apply. From what I did learn the inner door mechanism did change on the 1980 and up models. The 1978-79 Omni Horizons were pretty odd anyway and had alot of 1970's style parts that weren't used on the 1980's models like a hard plastic steering wheel, a different grille tail lights, instrument cluster, upper door panels, dashboard, fender mounted turn signal indicators, etc. Another possible fix might be to switch doors from a later model. While it may be tough to find a set of clean donor doors, at least in the future the replacement parts could come from a larger base. That was a consideration, but overall the white paint still looks amazingly good and the door is rust free (unlike most of the salvage yard ones). I figure sooner or later someone will see a 1978-79 in a yard that I can use the parts from. Plus the Omni doors are kind of a pain to change anyway since the hinges are welded on and who knows if they didn't change where those pieces lines up. David ___REMOVE-FOOTER-WHEN-REPLYING_ ShelbyDodge mailing list ShelbyDodge@imagilist.com http://www.imagilist.com/mailman/listinfo/shelbydodge
Re: SD L body window parts
Dave list: I think there may be a way around this. If you are willing to convert to an aftermarket power window kit. I have seen kits that convert to a power vertical lift, deleting the factory regulator. Has anyone tried this on an Omni/Horizon? Could you re-adhere the original piece using urethane windshield adhesive? Dennis in Delhi, CA From: David Salamone shelbydo...@mindspring.com Subject: Re: SD L body window parts needed Hi, I have an 86 GLH and the drivers window falls forward everytime you put it up. You have to hold it back while you crank it up. I took door panel off and can't find anything wrong or broken. Has anyone encountered this problem before? Please help! I've had an ongoing issue with the same thing but mine is a little harder to fix. There's a metal plate that grabs a hold of a runner keeping this mechanism on track. If it loses grip it'll go up or down but nothing keeps it from falling forward. I bought a used one recently to fix my window issue but discovered something unusual. On the very early model that I have (a 1979 Omni) the inner door assembly is completely different than the ones used in the more more common mid 1980's models (and it's too different to be adapted properly). Now I need to ask the collective if anyone has access to a driver side 1978 or 1979 Omni door that has a properly functioning window mechanism. I could really use these inner parts, unfortunately the later years from 1980 to 1990 won't work. David Salamone Positive Impressions shelbydo...@mindspring.com ___REMOVE-FOOTER-WHEN-REPLYING_ ShelbyDodge mailing list ShelbyDodge@imagilist.com http://www.imagilist.com/mailman/listinfo/shelbydodge
Re: SD L body window parts
I think there may be a way around this. If you are willing to convert to an aftermarket power window kit. I have seen kits that convert to a power vertical lift, deleting the factory regulator. Those kits will bypass cetain portions of the assembly (like the part that rolls the window up and down) but the problem with mine is the portion that holds the window in position. A power window kit (or retro fitting a factory one) wouldn't fix my particular issue. Has anyone tried this on an Omni/Horizon? I know in the 80's Carroll Shelby had one installed on one of his prototype Shelby Chargers. Could you re-adhere the original piece using urethane windshield adhesive? It's more complicated than that. I had a pretty good mechanic work on it for a few weeks without lasting results. David From: David Salamone shelbydo...@mindspring.com Subject: Re: SD L body window parts needed Hi, I have an 86 GLH and the drivers window falls forward everytime you put it up. You have to hold it back while you crank it up. I took door panel off and can't find anything wrong or broken. Has anyone encountered this problem before? Please help! I've had an ongoing issue with the same thing but mine is a little harder to fix. There's a metal plate that grabs a hold of a runner keeping this mechanism on track. If it loses grip it'll go up or down but nothing keeps it from falling forward. I bought a used one recently to fix my window issue but discovered something unusual. On the very early model that I have (a 1979 Omni) the inner door assembly is completely different than the ones used in the more more common mid 1980's models (and it's too different to be adapted properly). Now I need to ask the collective if anyone has access to a driver side 1978 or 1979 Omni door that has a properly functioning window mechanism. I could really use these inner parts, unfortunately the later years from 1980 to 1990 won't work. David Salamone Positive Impressions shelbydo...@mindspring.com ___REMOVE-FOOTER-WHEN-REPLYING_ ShelbyDodge mailing list ShelbyDodge@imagilist.com http://www.imagilist.com/mailman/listinfo/shelbydodge ___REMOVE-FOOTER-WHEN-REPLYING_ ShelbyDodge mailing list ShelbyDodge@imagilist.com http://www.imagilist.com/mailman/listinfo/shelbydodge
Re: SD L body window parts needed
Hi, I have an 86 GLH and the drivers window falls forward everytime you put it up. You have to hold it back while you crank it up. I took door panel off and can't find anything wrong or broken. Has anyone encountered this problem before? Please help! I've had an ongoing issue with the same thing but mine is a little harder to fix. There's a metal plate that grabs a hold of a runner keeping this mechanism on track. If it loses grip it'll go up or down but nothing keeps it from falling forward. I bought a used one recently to fix my window issue but discovered something unusual. On the very early model that I have (a 1979 Omni) the inner door assembly is completely different than the ones used in the more more common mid 1980's models (and it's too different to be adapted properly). Now I need to ask the collective if anyone has access to a driver side 1978 or 1979 Omni door that has a properly functioning window mechanism. I could really use these inner parts, unfortunately the later years from 1980 to 1990 won't work. David Salamone Positive Impressions shelbydo...@mindspring.com ___REMOVE-FOOTER-WHEN-REPLYING_ ShelbyDodge mailing list ShelbyDodge@imagilist.com http://www.imagilist.com/mailman/listinfo/shelbydodge
