Re: [silk] chat app security

[Anish Mohammed]

Hi Mark,
Thanks fir the note. Saw the interesting note from you on Skype - full
disclaimer one of the cofounders is my friend Jaan. Btw I had dinner with
Tom inAsiacrypt 2006 , if I recollect our conversation correctly- what he
said was there we no “obvious “ flaws and he smiled :)

Fully agree with you on your sentiments
Anish

On Sat, 22 May 2021 at 05:32, Mark Seiden  wrote:

> this subject came up briefly at the silk meet, which i was happy to attend.
>
> several points should be made:
>
> 1. some people expressed concern with installed base of particular apps
> among the
> people they want to talk with.
>
> of course, this number starts at 0 for any new app. also low installed
> base might have some
> advantages in obscurity or just “not being worth the trouble”. yet.
>  remember macs did not
> suffer malware for many years because the installed base was
> insignificant, even though
> in a financially favorable demographic.
>
> for me, secret or sensitive conversations happen among very few people,
> and it should be
> that way.  (the best way to keep a secret is to not share it.)
>
> so you don’t have to persuade a lot of people to install a new app if the
> purpose
> of it is to have some assurance that, say, two of you are speaking
> privately.
>
> the biggest problem with multiparty conversations is that the main points
> of vulnerability
> are the endpoints (either being compromised, or logging the content)
> rather than the
> communication security.
>
> (for some, such as skype, the key management is enough of a problem now
> that it
> isn’t trustworthy by my reckoning.)
>
> 2. open source apps are likely to be more secure, since it’s easier to
> verify design and
> find design and implementation errors.  (of course, if a developer has
> evil intent,
> they can distribute a version of the app that isn’t the same as what’s in
> the source.
> eventually it will be found that the distributed version doesn’t build
> from the source
> and then there will be some ’splaining to do.)
>
> closed source apps sometimes have audits done.
>
> but remember that skype originally, as written in Estonia, was audited by
> Tom Berson, an
> eminent cryptographer, who gave it a clean bill of health.
>
> But then a Chinese version was built as a jv and operated by tom.com
> which turned
> it into a surveillance app.
>
> and then skype was bought by microsoft, who centralized the key management
> on their key servers rather than having the keys generated on the
> endpoints.
>
> (and, nonetheless, skype continued to feature berson’s years old
> report on their web site as “proof of security” long after it was
> applicable to what
> their code actually did.)
>
> 3. here’s a semi-journalistic report on vice which points to some serious
> issues on
> whatsapp and telegram:
>
> https://www.vice.com/en/article/qj4qjd/whatsapp-data-security-issues <
> https://www.vice.com/en/article/qj4qjd/whatsapp-data-security-issues>
>
> and an actual technical report by  dimetrenko and schneider about problems
> in
> contact discovery is summarized and pointed to by
>
> https://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2020-09/tud-pms091520.php
>
>
> cheers,
>
> m.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
Anish Mohammed
https://calendly.com/zeroknowledge

Re: [silk] Silkmeet on Friday? (21st May, Zoom)

[Anish Mohammed]

shall try join :)
Anish Mohammed
anishmohammed.me
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On Fri, 21 May 2021 at 16:14, Alok Prasanna Kumar 
wrote:

> Since we just mentioned this on the call, those who are interested in NFT
> and cryptocurrency and how they actually work, do join us on Zoom this
> Sunday at 5.30 pm at The Goa Project where we will have Pareen Lathia and
> Naimish Sanghvi respectively talking about it.
>
> You can register on Zoom here:
>
> https://zoom.us/meeting/register/tJMrfuisqTMpHdfsrdBIR_X3KhIAVbny8GoJ?fbclid=IwAR1zfGC3eZZ-_RwFlTOmaqoNx8GYSbLcTd2wSlrF8yYktdcFlkjWIgT5zb8
>
> On Thu, May 20, 2021 at 1:48 PM Huda Masood  wrote:
>
> > I'm in!
> >
> > On Thu, 20 May 2021 at 09:47, Venkatesh H R 
> wrote:
> >
> > > + 1
> > >
> > > On Tue, May 18, 2021 at 7:19 PM Deepa Mohan 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Dear Sri Sri Sri Sri Pai,
> > > >
> > > > You reminded me of my all-time favourite cheerer-up (I think the
> author
> > > is
> > > > on this list)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://krishashok.me/2007/12/10/guide-to-designing-indian-political-posters/
> > > >
> > > > Thanks.After a fairly chaotic morning, amongst the oxygen
> > concentrators,
> > > I
> > > > find that I can smile again!
> > > >
> > > > Deepa.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, May 18, 2021 at 6:16 PM M.K.Pai 
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Please count me in too.
> > > > > -- Saint Pai
> > > > > Hero of Socialist Labour
> > > > > People's Commissar for Permanent Revolution
> > > > > Supreme Director of Party Enlightenment
> > > > > Rootless cosmopolitan bourgeois nationalist
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Mon, May 17, 2021 at 5:20 PM Vinit Bhansali 
> > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Dear fellow Silklisters,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Udhay, Surabhi and I are hosting a SilkMeet this week.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > We haven't met in meatspace in years (literally) and thought we
> > > should
> > > > at
> > > > > > least catch up over Zoom.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > We plan on meeting this Friday, (21st May, 7pm IST) and hope it
> > works
> > > > for
> > > > > > most of you.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > *Requirements:*
> > > > > > 1) Your favourite drink in hand
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I'll create a zoom link and share it with you in a couple of
> days.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > +1 away.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > *_Vinit Bhansali*
> > > > > > vinitb [at] gmail
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > *Get your 'vaccine' from 'fake news', lies, half-truths, manipulated
> > > truths, propaganda and general B.S. at my media buddhi newsletter
> > > <https://mediabuddhi.substack.com/>.*
> > >
> > > H R Venkatesh
> > > Director, Training and Research, BOOM <https://www.boomlive.in/>
> > > John S. Knight Journalism Fellow 2019
> > > <https://jsk.stanford.edu/fellows/class-of-2019/h-r-venkatesh/>,
> > Stanford
> > > University
> > > Twitter: @hrvenkatesh
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Huda Masood
> > +91 9886796967
> >
>
>
> --
> Alok Prasanna Kumar
> Advocate
> Ph: +919560065577
>

Re: [silk] Silkmeet Zoom Details (7pm IST on 21st May)

[Anish Mohammed]

+1 :) finally going to see a few faces from silk list

On Thu, 20 May 2021 at 10:42, Venkatesh Hariharan  wrote:

> Thanks for setting this up, Vinit.
>
> Venky
>
> On Thu, May 20, 2021 at 2:56 PM Vinit Bhansali  wrote:
>
> > Dear fellow Silklisters,
> >
> > Looking forward to catching up and sharing a drink with you over Zoom.
> >
> > Topic: Silkmeet
> > Time: May 21, 2021 07:00 PM IST
> > Zoom Meeting :
> >
> https://us02web.zoom.us/j/88521426015?pwd=UnNwbDZtL2RLRGdUQXJTTlhHUGV3QT09
> > Meeting ID: 885 2142 6015
> > Passcode: 123456
> >
> > See you all tomorrow!
> >
> > - Vinit Bhansali
> >
>
-- 
Anish Mohammed
https://calendly.com/zeroknowledge

Re: [silk] What are the things you splurge on that are worth the money?

[Anish Mohammed]

coming in even late than everyone else -
my list is as follows (similar in many items to everyone else on the list)

-Computers  - GPU’s , desktop, laptops ( Macs), iPad

-VR headsets

-Noise cancelling headphones

-Books

-Travel (upto 20% annual expenses as per my accountant)

-GPU's (includes e-GPU)

-Electronics hardware - all the way from microcontrollers to oscilloscopes,
logic analysers, 3d printers

-Drones ( both open and closed source)


Anish


Anish Mohammed
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>

Re: [silk] An anniversary

[Anish Mohammed]

Hi Udhay,
 Its been a very long while since it happened. If i am not mistaken I ran
into you on sci.crypt. I guess I got added after that, this was before
google ( i had a myrealbox.com email address). This was possibly after I
finished my house-surgeonsy ( internship) - 1997/8.
Without a shadow of doubt, it did introduce me to one of the most
eclectic crowd I have come across so far. Thanks again for silklist,
inviting me to silk list and friendship over past two+ decades
Anish

Anish Mohammed
anishmohammed.me
@anishmohammed <https://twitter.com/anishmohammed> n
calendly.com/zeroknowledge
PGP E68243345FE1B9AE <https://keybase.io/zeroknowledge#show-public>



On Sun, 20 Dec 2020 at 01:36, Udhay Shankar N  wrote:

> The first message on silklist went out 23 years ago.
>
> There are some members who have been around since then, and many others who
> hopped on at a later time.
>
> How did you find out about silklist? Share your stories.
>
> Udhay
>
> --
> ((Udhay Shankar N))  ((via phone))
>

Re: [silk] Founder's Day!

[Anish Mohammed]

On Fri, 23 Oct 2020 at 06:16, Deepa Mohan  wrote:

> Whether Udhay founded it or foundered on it, this list and his Interesting
> Friends have given me quite a lot of great conversation too!
>
> Happy birthday, Vod ka Raja, and may your friends increase.
>
> Cheers, Deepa.
>

Happy birthday Udhay, its been an honour to  have you as a friend for
almost two decades ...
-- 
Anish Mohammed
https://calendly.com/zeroknowledge

Re: [silk] Anil Kumar

[Anish Mohammed]

On Sun, 18 Oct 2020 at 03:37, Udhay Shankar N  wrote:

> For those of you who knew him, I have sad news. Silklister Anil Kumar
> passed away of a cardiac arrest a few days ago.
>
> We were friends for ~30 years. That involved many many shared experiences,
> including youthful indiscretions, late night conversations, and using each
> others' residences as crash pads with zero notice.
>
> I used to like introducing him as "possibly the only normal person I know"
> - but he was so much more than that.
>
> He was a warm, thoughtful and unfailingly helpful person. He enriched my
> life greatly, and I'll miss him terribly.
>
> Udhay
>
> --
>
> ((Udhay Shankar N)) ((udhay @ pobox.com)) ((www.digeratus.com))
>
Hi Udhay,
Really sad to hear the news. Please convey my condolences to the family.

Having known many in this list for last two decades , somehow the transient
nature of human life missed my frame of reference
Anish
-- 
Anish Mohammed
https://calendly.com/zeroknowledge

Re: [silk] Mumbai meetup?

[Anish Mohammed]

Hi all,
 Just thought of dropping in a note. I am in New delhi for a few days (
till Sunday 28th) happy to meet any of the fellow silklisters who happen to
be around and free to meet up.
Apologies on the short notice, me spending few days were due to
developments beyond my control :).
Looking forward to hearing from you all.
Anish
Anish Mohammed
anishmohammed.me
@anishmohammed <https://twitter.com/anishmohammed>
calendal.com/zeroknowledge




On Thu, Jul 25, 2019 at 12:28 PM Simmi Sareen 
wrote:

> I’m in. How about Thursday, 8th August?
>
> Simmi
>
> > On 25-Jul-2019, at 14:51, Devdas Bhagat 
> wrote:
> >
> > I am doing my annual trip to BOM, and free through the 4th - 10th of
> August.
> >
> > Meetup time?
> >
> > Devdas Bhagat
> >
>
>

Re: [silk] In Bangalore June 20/21/22

[Anish Mohammed]

On Tue, 11 Jun 2019 at 10:09, Jitendra Vaidya 
wrote:

> I am visiting Bangalore to attend and present at Rootconf.in. Thursday
> promises to be kinda crazy but would love to meet the good folks of Silk on
> Friday (June 21) or Saturday (June 22) evening.
>
> Please let me know.
>
> Thanks,


Wish it was 11/12 June :)

> --
Anish Mohammed
https://calendly.com/zeroknowledge

Re: [silk] SilkList

[Anish Mohammed]

On Fri, 24 Feb 2017 at 11:26, Nani  wrote:

> Haha, you're too kind, Thejaswi. :)
>
> Thanks Deepa, and Amitha!
>
> Dunno about being a professional, but back in the day I was invited to the
> Team USA cricket selection camp; never got to even try out though, as it
> turned out citizenship was mandatory. On the plus side, I got to meet with
> Sunil Gavaskar & Sir Garry Sobers, and was picked to a bowling camp with
> Kapil Dev. Only in the USA! ;)
>
> And during engg college days, was the starting 'keeper all 4 years at
> football (the beautiful game version). :)) The highlight of my
> all-too-brief sojourn into Squash was beating the University #2 within a
> month of first picking up a racquet. Wish I'd found the sport sooner. :P
>
> Cheers,
> Nani
>
> On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 9:00 AM, Amitha Singh 
> wrote:
>
> > Welcome to Silk List Nani...
> >
> > Regards,
> > Amitha
> >
> > On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 1:20 AM, Nani  wrote:
> >
> > > Thanks Udhay, for adding me to this group.
> > >
> > > Hello Silk Listers! My name is Narayanan. Most friends know me as Nani.
> > I'm
> > > co-founder at Milestone42, a Cloud services startup based in Chennai,
> > > Tamilnadu where the coffee is strong, the accents are thick, and the
> > talent
> > > pool so deep that you'll find one of us in most boardrooms. ;)
> > >
> > > I also help out at JustBooks Anna Nagar, a library franchise that my
> wife
> > > runs. Passionate about Cricket; discovered too late that I was better
> at
> > > Squash... operative word being "was". These days I am content to watch
> > > streaming video of American college football (Roll Tide!)...
> > >
> > > Some of you may know me already from a previous avatar at Yahoo!,
> where I
> > > used to be Director of PMO for Emerging Markets and Global
> Marketplaces.
> > > Look forward to connecting with the rest of the folks here.
> > >
> > > Here's to stimulating conversations on Silk List.
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > > Nani
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > *amithasingh.com *
> > *"Hesitating to act because the whole vision might not be achieved, or
> > because others do not yet share it, is an attitude that only hinders
> > progress." -- MK Gandhi*
> >


Hi Nani,
Welcome to silklist :), enjoy the ride

>
>

Re: [silk] Joining Silk

[Anish Mohammed]

On Thu, 23 Feb 2017 at 08:01, Amitha Singh  wrote:

> Welcome Kavita! I'll see you sooner than I'll see most silklisters ;)
> Regards,Amitha
>
>
> Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.
>  Original message From: Kavita Jhunjhunwala <
> kav...@avocadotreedigital.com> Date: 23/02/2017  5:53 p.m.  (GMT+05:30)
> To: silklist@lists.hserus.net Subject: [silk] Joining Silk
> Thanks Udhay for adding me to the famous Silk List : )  I am Kavita & I
> head a digital strategy agency in Bangalore called Avocado Tree and am the
> event producer of Click Asia Summits in India. I have co-founded & led
> another agency for the past 18 years (12 in Calcutta, and the last 6 in
> Singapore). I have just moved to Bangalore in the past two months and am
> looking forward to reconnecting with folks in India. And I am also now
> realising that I am writing a really 'serious' sounding introduction: )
>
> Look forward to some good conversations and meeting a host of new friends
> and reconnecting with some old ones which I am sure are part of the Silk
> List. : )




Welcome kavita :), I can't compete with Amitha / but hopefully I should be
able to meet you in one of your UK/US/European visits :)

>
>

Re: [silk] Myself, Gopi

[Anish Mohammed]

> On 22 Jan 2017, at 05:42, C Y Gopinath <cyg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> My brother, Ramu Narayan, was a veteran of Silklist and often would speak
> to me about his conversations and friends here. He passed away on January
> 14 this year, and I came down to Mumbai to be with him and now to deal with
> his aftermath.
> 
> In introducing myself to this group, I feel like I'm stepping into someone
> else's shoes.
> 
> I do many things, but primarily am know for my writing — both on food, and
> as an author of several books, including *Travels with the Fish*, *The Book
> of Answers* and *Hoyt's War*. I also make movies, cook, teach cooking, work
> with theatre in distant communities, and have reasonable graphic design
> skills, to name a few.
> 
> I'm 64, live in Bangkok, and travel around the world a great deal. My
> Twitter handle is humbird — you'll probably get a good sense of me from
> there.
> 
> Looking forward to travels with the silk. .
> 
> 
> Gopi
> 
> www.cygopinath.com
> 
> 
> [image: --]
> 
> C Y Gopinath
> [image: https://]about.me/humbird
> <https://about.me/humbird?promo=email_sig>

Hi Gopi,
 Welcome to the silklist. I am sure you would be pretty much at home here.
Regards
Anish

Anish Mohammed
Twitter: anishmohammed
http://uk.linkedin.com/in/anishmohammed
Skype: thecryptic

Re: [silk] Gaurav Vaz - Introduction

[Anish Mohammed]

On Sat, 21 Jan 2017 at 09:17, Gaurav Vaz  wrote:

> Hi Everyone!
>
> I finally managed to join this amazing group after years of hearing and
> reading about it. Thanks a lot Udhay for the invitation :)
>
> I am a proper jack of all trades and I might have interacted with a few of
> you in different capacities. I play the bass guitar and am the artist
> manager for The Raghu Dixit Project, a contemporary folk band from
> Bangalore and am quite active in the Indian indie music scene in different
> capacities.
>
> I work as a web consultant with my start-up, The Random Lines, and am also
> a very small scale angel investor who loves working with small businesses
> and start-ups in various capacities.
>
> I am really looking forward to catching up with all of you at some point
> and being part of some great conversations here.
>
> Thanks,
> Gaurav
>
> --
> If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice!
>
> http://gauravvaz.com
>


Welcome to the list :) I am sure you wouid fit in well

Re: [silk] Nineteen!

[Anish Mohammed]

Wow congrats everyone :) (especially Udhay)

On Mon, 12 Dec 2016 at 09:16, ckelty ckelty  wrote:

> 
>
> pause
>
> does this mean there will be a 20-year reunion and Epic SilkList
> Conference, next December?
>
> ck
>
> On Mon, Dec 12, 2016 17:25, Udhay Shankar N wrote:
> >Tomorrow is the 19th birthday of silk. Raise a glass, and feel free to
> >party. I know I will! :)
> >
> >Udhay
> >--
> >
> >((Udhay Shankar N)) ((udhay @ pobox.com)) ((www.digeratus.com))
>
>

Re: [silk] The IYIs, according to Taleb

[Anish Mohammed]

> On 18 Sep 2016, at 07:42, Sriram Karra <karra@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> https://medium.com/@nntaleb/the-intellectual-yet-idiot-13211e2d0577
> 
> Found this funny.  But just to question the opening statement (for the rest
> are mostly his delightful opinions)... are we seeing the 'rebellion"
> anywhere? In particular in India?
> 
> ===
> The Intellectual Yet Idiot
> 
> What we have been seeing worldwide, from India to the UK to the US, is the
> rebellion against the inner circle of no-skin-in-the-game policymaking
> “clerks” and journalists-insiders, that class of paternalistic
> semi-intellectual experts with some Ivy league, Oxford-Cambridge, or
> similar label-driven education who are telling the rest of us 1) what to
> do, 2) what to eat, 3) how to speak, 4) how to think… and 5) who to vote
> for.

Hi Sriram,
Have to admit, the pattern described by Taleb is quite easily recognised in UK. 
In the Bay Area haven't seen much of it, again the networks that I have access 
to seem to include high density of Ivy League folks, but never seen 
differentiation based on Ivy League affiliation.

Very curious to know about the Indian view


Anish Mohammed
Twitter: anishmohammed
http://uk.linkedin.com/in/anishmohammed
Skype: thecryptic

Re: [silk] Immortality Begins at Forty

[Anish Mohammed]

Udhay,
have to admit, he is an acquaintance. Share a bunch of very good friends with 
him :).
regards
Anish

Anish Mohammed
Twitter: anishmohammed
http://uk.linkedin.com/in/anishmohammed
Skype: thecryptic


> On 10 May 2016, at 02:42, Udhay Shankar N <ud...@pobox.com> wrote:
> 
> Venkatesh Rao is a very smart (if extremely prolix) guy. I don't actually
> agree with the basic premise of this essay, but wanted to see what silklist
> thought - several of the regulars have probably passed this milestone
> already, including myself.
> 
> Comments?
> 
> Udhay
> 
> http://www.ribbonfarm.com/2016/04/28/immortality-begins-at-forty/
> 
> Immortality Begins at Forty
> April 28, 2016 By Venkatesh Rao
> 
> I discovered something a couple of years ago: Almost all culture, old or
> new, is designed for consumption by people under 40. People between 40 and
> O (an indeterminate number defined as “really, just way too old”),  are
> primarily employed as meaning-makers for the under-40 set. This is because
> they are mostly good for nothing else, and on average not valuable enough
> themselves for society to invest meaning in.
> 
> Immortality
> 
> The only culture designed for people between 40 and O is prescription drug
> ads and unreadably dense literary novels. Between age O and Ø, the age at
> which you die, there is only funerary culture. That second link is to an
> app for managing your own death called Cake. Why cake? Your guess is as
> good as mine.
> 
> But there’s a plus side. Forty is when immortality begins.
> 
> A very general life-stage map across civilizations and eras looks like this:
> 
> 0 to a: Achieve launch velocity
> a to 40: Play culture!
> 40 to O: Ah crap, I have to make shit up for others now?
> O to Ø: Let them eat cake
> The new number in the scheme above, a, is the age at which you achieve
> enough of a restless drive, via either increasing resentment (some sort of
> red pill) or cluelessness (some sort of blue pill), to play for meaning.
> 
> In the scheme above, 40 is the only roughly stable number. It exists as an
> approximately fixed point because it is an emergent outcome of history. It
> is reflected in the nature of humanity’s collective cultural archives,
> religions, sitcoms, ideologies, self-improvement plans, justifiably ageist
> 40-under-40 award schemes, weight-loss plans, and dating advice.
> 
> In case you hadn’t yet noticed, the few older archetypes and characters who
> do play a role in our collective cultural imagination tend to be
> unrealistically wise, healthy, evolved, and wondrously well-prepared for
> retirement. Unlike archetypes of youthful beauty and vigor, these are not
> meant to set unrealistic standards for older people to actually strive
> towards. It’s too late for them. They are meant to prevent young people
> from getting too distracted by their own future concerns to play the
> present-day meaning games the world needs them to play.
> 
> The other numbers can float, which means you can get extraordinarily
> fucked-up lives if (for instance), your a is higher than 40 or your O is
> under 40.
> 
> If you’re lucky, the following set of inequalities will hold for you, and
> you will be able to experience that most precious of all things, a life
> lived forward in time:
> 
> 0 < a: you have childhood innocence to lose
> 
> a < 40: you have enough value that society does culture to you
> 
> 40 < O: there is enough time to take revenge for having had culture done to
> you
> 
> O < Ø: if you’re lucky, there will be time to rest and observe in peace
> 
> Some well-known fucked-up life scripts include:
> 
> O < a: Acting dead
> 
> a  > 40: Peter Pan
> 
> 40 > 40: Has-been
> 
> 40 < 40: Burnout
> 
> Ø < a: Died tragically and heroically young
> 
> Ø < Ø: Painful and unwanted life extension
> 
> Once society stops doing culture to you, and you’re on your own,
> immortality begins. The morning after your fortieth birthday, you
> experience the first day of the rest of time.
> 
> There is an obvious question that everybody should ask but nobody does: how
> would you know if you were immortal?
> 
> It is not enough to merely go through one or more death experiences,
> miraculously surviving each one. By virtue of living in 2016, you’ve
> probably already sailed through many infections and diseases that would
> have killed you a few hundred years ago. You’ve probably also committed
> what would have been capital crimes in ages past.
> 
> No, you begin to experience immortality the first time you recognize the
> transience of experiences you thought were permanent, and more subtly, the
> permanence of experiences you hoped were t

Re: [silk] The least random number

[Anish Mohammed]

I think I ran into you cypherpunk mailing list .

Anish Mohammed
Twitter: anishmohammed
http://uk.linkedin.com/in/anishmohammed
Skype: thecryptic

 On 11 Dec 2014, at 12:15, Udhay Shankar N ud...@pobox.com wrote:
 
 Next week, on the 19th, silklist will be 17 years old.
 
 A fair number of the regulars have been around (almost) that long.
 
 So when did you join silklist, and how did you hear about it?
 
 Udhay
 
 -- 
 ((Udhay Shankar N)) ((udhay @ pobox.com)) ((www.digeratus.com))
 

Re: [silk] Introduction

[Anish Mohammed]

Welcome to the list :)

Anish Mohammed
Twitter: anishmohammed
http://uk.linkedin.com/in/anishmohammed
Skype: thecryptic

 On 12 Mar 2014, at 08:49, Pooja Sastry pooja.sas...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hello! My name is Pooja. I studied architecture in Bangalore and Urban
 Planning in Ahmedabad, and learnt a few months ago that I could begin to
 call myself an architect-urban planner and my former professors by their
 first names.
 
 Until very recently, I was working full-time at an architecture firm in
 Bangalore, but I am currently between jobs. In the meantime, I freelance as
 an architect, or more frequently, as an interior designer. When projects
 come along, I work as a researcher for a start-up planning consultancy with
 some fellow alumni from planning school. I am also writing a
 paper-in-progress called Poverty and Transport Accessibility in Bangalore:
 the need for a gendered perspective which brings many of my interests
 together.
 
 I coach schoolchildren in Mathematics on the weekends, and really enjoy it.
 One child was very upset when I told her I would probably not be able to
 teach any more after this year. I would have rejoiced in her place, so
 although it puzzles me, I hope it's because the children enjoy it, too.
 
 Those on silk-list will know my father as Shiv, so Udhay has known me since
 I was little and I am lucky enough to have met many of you. I have been
 lurking on the list for two years, so I thought maybe I should finally
 de-lurk and say hello.

Re: [silk] Introductions

[Anish Mohammed]

Welcome to the interesting bunch of folks whose connecting factor being Udhay 
;)

Anish Mohammed
Twitter: anishmohammed
http://uk.linkedin.com/in/anishmohammed
Skype: thecryptic

On 26 Jan 2014, at 05:01, Shenoy N sheno...@gmail.com wrote:

 I'm happy and honored to be part of this list (thanks Udhay!) and while I'm
 acutely aware that I'm probably, as my wife Sheela leaves no opportunity
 unutilized to remind me of this, a pretty useless and boring person, here's
 a brief intro
 
 I'm Narendra Shenoy. I run a factory manufacturing components and
 sub-assemblies which go into various engineering applications. Currently,
 for instance, we make hinge assemblies for the Coke and Pepsi visi-coolers
 that you see in restaurants and cafes.
 
 We occasionally get to make interesting stuff too. We partnered with
 Berkeley University to develop the Berkeley Darfur Stove (
 http://cookstoves.lbl.gov/darfur.php) and the prototypes for a very
 promising groundwater arsenic remediation technique called ECAR
 http://gadgillab.berkeley.edu/research/water/arsenic_removal/
 (ours processes 600 liters every 2 hours)
 
 For most of my time, however, I'm found pottering around Malad West in
 Mumbai, where I live, trying to persuade my wife to cook me some Coorg
 style pork or Mysore style mutton pulao. I read as much as I can, almost
 entirely non-fiction, though in times of depression, I will pick up a P G
 Wodehouse to make the blues go away.
 
 I listen almost exclusively to Hindustani Classical Music. My younger son
 however has been working on me for the last year and has got me to like
 Pink Floyd, Led Zep and Metallica. He teaches himself to play the electric
 guitar and I'm often his main audience. I chronicle some of this in my
 blog, narendrashenoy.blogspot.in
 
 Cheers!
 
 
 -- 
 Narendra Shenoy
 http://narendrashenoy.blogspot.com

Re: [silk] Book of 2013

[Anish Mohammed]

Hi all,
 I would be visiting india in Dec, would be great to meet folks in
Bangalore or Chennai, when I am around ( assuming any of you are free
:) )
regards
Anish

On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 1:18 PM, SK sk.l...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi all,

 Obligatory end-of-year thread :)

 I am visiting India in Dec and would like to go back with a bag of great
 books by Indian authors (in English still) that are hard to find at the
 likes of Amazon. I am sure Silkers have a great list of books to recommend.
 Care to share?

 Thanks,
 skn



-- 
Anish Mohammed
http://uk.linkedin.com/in/anishmohammed
@anishmohammed

Re: [silk] Why do physicians make different end-of-life choices than the rest of us?

[Anish Mohammed]

Hi Udhay,
 I am not sure if my voice counts as that of practicing  physician, i have to 
admit i have met some life extension folks among my physician acquaintances :)
Regards
Anish

Anish Mohammed
Twitter: anishmohammed
http://uk.linkedin.com/in/anishmohammed
Skype: thecryptic

On 22 Oct 2013, at 05:13, Udhay Shankar N ud...@pobox.com wrote:

 Doctors on silk - is this borne out by your experience?
 
 Udhay
 
 http://www.alternet.org/personal-health/doctors-secret-how-die-right?paging=offcurrent_page=1
 
 Doctors' Secret for How to Die Right
 Why do physicians make different end-of-life choices than the rest of us?
 
 October 14, 2013  |
 
 Dr. Ken Murray wrote an essay for the web-only magazine Zócalo Public
 Square, thinking he’d be lucky to attract a few dozen readers and
 generate an online comment or two. Instead, the physician—a UC Davis
 medical-school graduate who taught family medicine at the University of
 Southern California—drew an avalanche of responses. In fact, what he
 wrote put him center stage in a swirling debate about life, death and
 doctors.
 
 What did he reveal that was so groundbreaking?
 
 He claimed that a vast majority of physicians make dramatically
 different end-of-life choices than the rest of us. Put simply, most
 doctors choose comfort and calm instead of aggressive interventions or
 treatments, he said. Another way to look at it is that doctors routinely
 order procedures for patients near the end of life that they would not
 choose for themselves.
 
 What do doctors know that the rest of us don’t?
 
 According to Murray, physicians have seen the limitations of modern
 medicine up close and know that attempts to prolong a life can often
 lead to a protracted, heartbreaking death.
 
 Murray’s 2011 “How Doctors Die” was translated into multiple languages
 and written about in The New York Times, The Wall Street Journal, The
 Washington Post and The Sacramento Bee. Thousands of people commented on
 it via the scores of newspapers and blogs that reprinted it. Readers
 told of “near-dead relatives being assaulted with toxic drugs,” said
 Murray, being offered “painful procedures for no good reason.” Among the
 responses were hundreds of anecdotes from physicians and health-care
 professionals that backed Murray’s thesis.
 
 “Most of the stories were heart-wrenching,” he said.
 
 Data that proves the divide isn’t hard to find. Murray cites the Johns
 Hopkins Precursors Study, one of the longest longitudinal inquiries into
 aging in the world, which contains a running medical record of health
 statistics on a group of about 750 doctors, who were members of the
 Johns Hopkins University School of Medicine in Baltimore between 1948
 and 1964. Through the years, the study has helped medical research
 correlate, for example, high blood cholesterol with heart attacks. But
 15 years ago—with its participants in their 60s, 70s and 80s—the
 researchers began asking about end-of-life choices.
 
 Dr. Joseph Gallo, director of the Precursors Study, was happy to explain
 how the data has continually found that doctors—by a vast majority—make
 different choices when faced with dire diagnoses. Physicians who choose
 the least procedures also tend to have advance directives, an important
 bit of paperwork that allows patients to choose a health-care proxy and
 determine in advance what interventions they do or don’t want if they
 experience a decline in health.
 
 In one scenario where the study group was asked what their wishes would
 be if they had an irreversible brain disease that left them unable to
 recognize people or speak, “most people would want everything,” said
 Gallo, while about 90 percent of doctors “would say no” to CPR, a
 mechanical ventilator (breathing machine), and kidney dialysis. About 80
 percent of the doctors would also say no to major surgery or a feeding
 tube, he said.
 
 “It seems the more familiar you are with interventions, the less you
 want,” Gallo said point-blank.
 
 Welcome to “the gap.”
 
 Murray believes blame for the breach can be split three ways between bad
 physician-patient communication, unrealistic expectations on the part of
 patients, and their families and a health-care system that encourages
 excessive treatment. (Note: A quarter of all Medicare spending occurs in
 the last year of life.)
 
 ‘Don't tube me'
 
 When you consider the large number of deaths Sutter Health’s Dr. James
 McGregor has witnessed in his decades as a Sacramento-area specialist in
 palliative care and hospice, it is poignant to see him almost overtaken
 with emotion while telling the story of Ella.
 
 An elderly woman diagnosed with a terminal illness, Ella (not her real
 name) had strong feelings about not having any medical interventions as
 she neared her life’s end. She’d filled out her paperwork to this effect
 and made it official, with her husband serving as her health-care agent
 in the event that she became unable to make her own decisions. Soon came

Re: [silk] In Mountain View for a few weeks, anyone up for a meetup?

[Anish Mohammed]

Looks good to me ...

Anish Mohammed
Twitter: anishmohammed
http://uk.linkedin.com/in/anishmohammed
Skype: thecryptic

On 18 Jul 2013, at 18:23, Werner Goveya gov...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 7:46 AM, Thaths tha...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 How about we meet outside Book Buyers on Castro street at 6:30 pm?
 
 Sure, thank you.
 
 - werner

Re: [silk] In Mountain View for a few weeks, anyone up for a meetup?

[Anish Mohammed]

;)


On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 5:23 PM, Werner Goveya gov...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Sun, May 26, 2013 at 8:13 PM, Thaths tha...@gmail.com wrote:

  A South bay dinner with silk listers sounds good.
 
  +1

 - werner




-- 
Anish Mohammed
http://uk.linkedin.com/in/anishmohammed
@anishmohammed

Re: [silk] In Mountain View for a few weeks, anyone up for a meetup?

[Anish Mohammed]

looks good on my calendar ;)


On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 5:36 PM, Thaths tha...@gmail.com wrote:

 How does dinner in Mountain View on Jul 10 sound to everyone?

 S.

 On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 9:28 AM, Anish Mohammed anish.moham...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  ;)
 
 
  On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 5:23 PM, Werner Goveya gov...@gmail.com wrote:
 
   On Sun, May 26, 2013 at 8:13 PM, Thaths tha...@gmail.com wrote:
  
A South bay dinner with silk listers sounds good.
   
+1
  
   - werner
  
 
 
 
  --
  Anish Mohammed
  http://uk.linkedin.com/in/anishmohammed
  @anishmohammed
 



 --
 Homer: Hey, what does this job pay?
 Carl:  Nuthin'.
 Homer: D'oh!
 Carl:  Unless you're crooked.
 Homer: Woo-hoo!




-- 
Anish Mohammed
http://uk.linkedin.com/in/anishmohammed
@anishmohammed

[silk] In Mountain View for a few weeks, anyone up for a meetup?

[Anish Mohammed]

Hi all,
I thought I should follow Charles footsteps and send a mail out to the
list.  I would be in Mountain View at Singularity University for a short
while (mid June-August). Would be great to catch up with any of the
silklisters based in the valley area are up  for a meetup.

Looking forward to hearing from fellow silk listers.
regards
Anish


-- 
Anish Mohammed
http://uk.linkedin.com/in/anishmohammed
@anishmohammed

Re: [silk] In Mountain View for a few weeks, anyone up for a meetup?

[Anish Mohammed]

any idea how big is the geographic representation (numerical) of silk
listers in the area :)


On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 4:13 AM, Thaths tha...@gmail.com wrote:

 A South bay dinner with silk listers sounds good.

 Thaths
 On May 26, 2013 11:55 AM, Anish Mohammed anish.moham...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  Hi all,
  I thought I should follow Charles footsteps and send a mail out to the
  list.  I would be in Mountain View at Singularity University for a short
  while (mid June-August). Would be great to catch up with any of the
  silklisters based in the valley area are up  for a meetup.
 
  Looking forward to hearing from fellow silk listers.
  regards
  Anish
 
 
  --
  Anish Mohammed
  http://uk.linkedin.com/in/anishmohammed
  @anishmohammed
 




-- 
Anish Mohammed
http://uk.linkedin.com/in/anishmohammed
@anishmohammed

Re: [silk] Is South India Really Richer? | This is Ashok.

[Anish Mohammed]

As spare time data scientist/hacker i believe with a bit of slicing and 
dicing,quite a few correlations and trends, definitely some very cool 
visualisation /infographics and most definitely a very good article for 
journalistic type :)

Could someone please point me at the data :)
Regards
Anish

Anish Mohammed
Twitter: anishmohammed
http://uk.linkedin.com/in/anishmohammed

On 17 Apr 2013, at 05:18, Udhay Shankar N ud...@pobox.com wrote:

 On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 9:18 AM, Naresh nar...@vagroup.com wrote:
 
 The final census data is out anytime now.time
 For a hackathon?silklisters arise!!
 
 I think tomorrow's meetup is ideal to expand on your ideas on what can
 be done with the raw census data.
 
 Udhay
 

Re: [silk] Intro

[Anish Mohammed]

Hi Frozencemetry,
Welcome to the gang, might possibly share some acquaintances, as i happen to be 
security researcher in the past and know a couple from CMU...
Regards
Anish 

Anish Mohammed
Twitter: anishmohammed
http://uk.linkedin.com/in/anishmohammed

On 3 Apr 2013, at 15:54, frozencemetery rharw...@club.cc.cmu.edu wrote:

 I've been told it's good form to post an introduction, so: hello!
 
 I'm a computer scientist and security researcher currently at Carnegie
 Mellon University.  I'm also a free speech, animal rights, and political
 activist, and am part of the Civic Counsel group (a not for profit that,
 when established, will promote free information, institutional
 transparency, personal privacy, and civic engagement through code,
 education, advocacy, and research.).  I think the Debian project is
 wonderful, though currently I am a Red Hat employee (and I neither speak
 for nor represent either organization).
 
 If this introduction's presentation seems weak, that's because it is;
 Tomasz created too hard of an act to follow.
 
 Cheers,
 --frozencemetery

Re: [silk] London. Again.

[Anish Mohammed]

not sure but will try

On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 5:39 PM, Neha Viswanathan nehav...@gmail.comwrote:

  So slicha advance notice this time. In London Sunday evening till
 Wednesday.
 

 In case anyone wants to join us - Chandroo and I will be here
 http://www.nicholsonspubs.co.uk/thepontefractcastlewigmorestreetlondon/

 at the Pontefract Castle from 7 pm on tomorrow, 20th June. It's right
 by Oxford Circus/ Bond Street. And since I haven't really met any
 Silksters in London, would love to meet anyone who turns up! :)




-- 
Anish Mohammed
http://uk.linkedin.com/in/anishmohammed
@anishmohammed

Re: [silk] Flame is Lame

[Anish Mohammed]

Hi Eugen,
 Looked at another way, if you submitted a paper Yet another chosen prefix 
 
 attack on MD5 to Crypto/AsiaCrypt/Eurocrypt, do you think it'd get 
 accepted?.  

 I fully understand this one could call this an acceptance bias...not only 
 ur name should sound right , u should also be in right group ( I am sure u 
 know what I mean ..) 
Regards
Anish
Anish Mohammed
Twitter: anishmohammed
http://uk.linkedin.com/in/anishmohammed

On 13 Jun 2012, at 10:11, Eugen Leitl eu...@leitl.org wrote:

 - Forwarded message from Peter Gutmann pgut...@cs.auckland.ac.nz -
 
 From: Peter Gutmann pgut...@cs.auckland.ac.nz
 Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2012 17:26:39 +1200
 To: cypherpu...@al-qaeda.net, eu...@leitl.org, i...@postbiota.org,
t...@postbiota.org
 Subject: Re: [silk] Flame is Lame
 
 Eugen Leitl eu...@leitl.org quotes:
 
 And suddenly, just like that, the discussion on whether Flame is lame or not
 bvanished.
 
 Yeah, because cryptographacamy is magic.  The exploit may have used 0day and
 rootkits and ROP and stealth techniques and self-modifying code and who knows
 what else, but any five-year-old can do that.  However, if there's any
 cryptographi... cryptograma... magic involved then it had to have been done by
 sikrit gummint agencies.
 
 I'm not saying it was or it wasn't, but I am a bit disturbed at the level of
 magical thinking that goes with anything involving crypto.  There have been
 some pretty sophisticated attacks on crypto keys in embedded devices for
 jailbreaking purposes that were done by enthusiastic amateurs, not even the
 likes of (to pick some random examples of crypto people who've done this
 before) David Wagner or Ed Felten or Markus Kuhn but just some random guys who
 decided to give it a go.
 
 Looked at another way, if you submitted a paper Yet another chosen prefix 
 attack on MD5 to Crypto/AsiaCrypt/Eurocrypt, do you think it'd get 
 accepted?.  
 I'm not trying to denigrate the achievement, just to add a little perspective.
 
 Peter.
 
 - End forwarded message -
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Re: [silk] In London

[Anish Mohammed]

happy to catch up, would be great if we could get rest of the folks as well
:)

On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 4:23 PM, Chandrachoodan Gopalakrishnan 
chandrachoo...@gmail.com wrote:

 Right, another short-notice trip to London. I will be there Wednesday
 through Saturday.
 Anybody up for a quick meet Friday evening?

 C

 --
 http://about.me/chandrachoodan

 +447594553053

Re: [silk] in London

[Anish Mohammed]

Going to be around canary wharf...

Anish Mohammed
Twitter: anishmohammed
http://uk.linkedin.com/in/anishmohammed

On 16 Apr 2012, at 20:44, Badri Natarajan asi...@vsnl.com wrote:

 I'm not sure about my schedule yet, but if you guys post up a meeting place 
 I'll try to swing by..
 
 -- 
 Badri Natarajan
 
 On Monday, 16 April 2012 at 19:26, Chandrachoodan Gopalakrishnan wrote:
 
 Alright then. Three's company too. Where/when shall we meet? I'm
 coming in to the city from Amersham.
 
 C
 (excuse phone mail.)
 
 On 4/16/12, Dinesh Venkateswaran dinesh.mad...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
 On 16 Apr 2012, at 02:26, Anish Mohammed anish.moham...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Tuesday sound good to me too ;)
 
 On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 12:18 AM, Chandrachoodan Gopalakrishnan
 chandrachoo...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello London Silkers,
 
 I am coming up to the city tomorrow (Monday, 16th April) for a shoot. I'll
 probably be there through the week.
 Quick meet possible? Tuesday works best for me, or Friday evening.
 
 C
 
 Tuesday's good
 
 
 
 --
 http://about.me/chandrachoodan
 
 +447594553053
 
 --
 Sent from my mobile device
 
 http://about.me/chandrachoodan
 
 +447594553053
 

Re: [silk] in London

[Anish Mohammed]

Tuesday sound good to me too  ;)

On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 12:18 AM, Chandrachoodan Gopalakrishnan 
chandrachoo...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello London Silkers,

 I am coming up to the city tomorrow (Monday, 16th April) for a shoot. I'll
 probably be there through the week.
 Quick meet possible? Tuesday works best for me, or Friday evening.

 C


 --
 http://about.me/chandrachoodan

 +447594553053

Re: [silk] The facebook experiment

[Anish Mohammed]

me too 

On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 6:11 PM, Srini RamaKrishnan che...@gmail.comwrote:

 On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 6:48 PM, Deepa Mohan mohande...@gmail.com wrote:
  Is there something significant in the fact that there has been no
 response
  to this email in the past four hours?

 I wouldn't know, I don't use Facebook, so this email was of no relevance
 to me.

Re: [silk] Cultivating genius

[Anish Mohammed]

Hi all,
While on topic of wired, there is a very inspirational article on Chris 
Anderson of Wired which I found it very inspirational 
http://p.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/mar/14/out-of-hobby-class-drones-lifting-off-for-personal/?page=all#dsq-form-area
Btw thought I should add a disclaimer, that I am one of the members of 
diydrones community as a consumer of products, moderator on diydrones and as 
member of developer community.
Regards

Anish Mohammed
Twitter: anishmohammed
http://uk.linkedin.com/in/anishmohammed

On 15 Mar 2012, at 04:16, Dibyo gdi...@gmail.com wrote:

 
 
 On 14 March 2012 18:17, Udhay Shankar N ud...@pobox.com wrote:
 Each one of these recommendations for cultivating genius seems stupidly
 obvious. And yet, almost no modern state manages to tick these 3 boxes.
 The whole article can be summarised as follows:
 
 Encourage immigration.
 Encourage education.
 Encourage risk-taking.
 
 Simple enough? And yet...
 
 Udhay
 
 PS: I love the phrase 'talent clots inhomogeneously'.
 
 http://www.wired.com/magazine/2012/02/st_essay_genius
 
 Cultivating Genius in the 21st Century
 
By Jonah Lehrer
February 28, 2012 |
Wired March 2012
 
 Most economic growth has a very simple source: new ideas. It is our
 creativity that generates wealth. So how can we increase the pace of
 innovation? Is it possible to inspire more Picassos and Steve Jobses?
 
 
 
 Interesting read, but like the others in this thread, I think human-nature, 
 the inherent resistance to change and the fear of the new trumps common 
 sense. Vote banks don't like change, hence governments think twice.
 
 I live in Singapore at the moment, and while the government, on the surface 
 of it, is trying hard to tick all these boxes, the average joe doesn't like 
 it, even though my opinion is that everyone has benefited from it. The reason 
 is that economic progress causes financial inequality in the short-term which 
 in turn causes resistance. If a country like this, which is imminently 
 manageable and relatively well-off, can't do this without resistance, imagine 
 how a larger, more chaotic country (like mine) would pull something like this 
 off.
 
 Also, would you agree with the statement that the USA is fundamentally built 
 on these principles (over the last 100 years, not necessarily at this point 
 in time)
 
 
 Dibyo
 
  
 

Re: [silk] [liberationtech] Pakistan's Firewall: Need your help and support

[Anish Mohammed]

On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 9:29 PM, Eugen Leitl eu...@leitl.org wrote:

 - Forwarded message from Sana Saleem s...@bolobhi.org -

 From: Sana Saleem s...@bolobhi.org
 Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2012 23:31:39 +0500
 To: liberationt...@lists.stanford.edu
 Subject: [liberationtech] Pakistan's Firewall: Need your help and support

 Hi all,

 There's been significant media coverage of the impending internet
 censorship plans by Pakistan's Government. The anti-censorship campaign has
 been able to garner support from national and international organizations.
 The positive news is that, we were able to push the government to extend
 the tender closing date, for URL filtering and blocking system, from 1st of
 March to the 16th of March. Our partners in the campaign, Business Human
 Rights Resource Centre, were able to forward our petition and letter to
 company CEO's  and we received commitments form:

 -Websense
 - Cisco
 -Verizon
 -Sandvine

 They have committed not to bid for the URL filtering system. However,
 Mcafee,ZTE , Huawei, Bluecoat has not responded. We are now getting very
 close to the tender closing date and have entered a crucial phase in the
 campaign. We believe at this point it would be most beneficial to keep
 building pressure.

 - Getting businesses with investments in Pakistan to speak up and write to
 the Ministry of IT
 - Getting media to focus on various aspects of the issues, including how
 this could effectively turn online spaces as tools for surveillance, how
 this would hurt the economy, academic paralysis and halt innovation.

 We have put together a Press Kit, it is comprehensive and has basic info
 that most of you might already be aware of, to inform journalists within
 and outside of Pakistan about the situation and it's repercussions. Please
 feel free to share, amongst your contacts:

 http://bolobhi.org/press-release-public-statements/press-kit/national-url-filtering-blocking-system/


 Here is a timeline for the campaign so far:

 http://bolobhi.org/timeline-campaign-against-internet-censorship-in-pakistan/


 Thank you and I would really appreciate your suggestions, feedback and
 help,
 Best,
 Sana

 --
 Chief Operating Officer
 Bolo Bhi
 Privacy-Advocacy-Research
 http://bolobhi.org

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Eugen,
 have to admit have  been watching yours and Mike's post on freedombox
mailing list. BTW I suspect this might be bit ironic, if i am not mistaken
India has even more stuff in place, and possibly largest chunck of folks
in silklist reside in India.

 @Sunil Abraham do you have any comments to add on filtering and monitoring
in India..
regards
Anish

Re: [silk] In the UK.

[Anish Mohammed]

On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 5:01 PM, Chandrachoodan Gopalakrishnan 
chandrachoo...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello,

 Just a quick note. I've moved to the UK, specifically Bristol (possibly
 London soon) to work in the rather interesting mashup between
 heritage/history and TV production. I will also be pursuing other projects
 - making radio/podcasts on a lot of other subjects, as well as remotely
 curating a documentary film festival in Chennai.

 If you're in the neighbourhood, or don't mind travelling here, give me a
 shout. Number's part of my sig, email id's up top-left of this post.

 C

 --
 http://about.me/chandrachoodan

 +447594553053

Hi Chandrachoodan,
welcome to UK, hope to see you in London soon. My offices are in Bank. BTW
does this merit a silklist meetup in London :)
regards
Anish

Re: [silk] How To Be More Interesting

[Anish Mohammed]

Have to admit I agree with quite a few of these. Now what I don't know is how 
interesting I am :) there would be a bias on that one and not enough data 
points to verify

Anish Mohammed
Twitter: anishmohammed
http://uk.linkedin.com/in/anishmohammed

On 20 Jan 2012, at 02:55, Udhay Shankar N ud...@pobox.com wrote:

 Since this list is filled with interesting people, I thought it would be
 (ahem) interesting to see what they thought of this list. :)
 
 Udhay
 
 http://www.forbes.com/sites/jessicahagy/2011/11/30/how-to-be-interesting/print/
 
 How To Be More Interesting (In 10 Simple Steps)
 
 How to be interesting (in 10 stupid-simple steps):
 
 1.Go exploring.
 Explore ideas, places, and opinions. The inside of the echo chamber is
 where all the boring people hang out.
 
 2. Share what you discover.
 And be generous when you do. Not everybody went exploring with you. Let
 them live vicariously through your adventures.
 
 3. Do something. Anything.
 Dance. Talk. Build. Network. Play. Help. Create. It doesn’t matter what
 you do, as long as you’re doing it. Sitting around and complaining is
 not an acceptable form of ‘something,’ in case you were wondering.
 
 4. Embrace your innate weirdness.
 No one is normal. Everyone has quirks and insights unique to themselves.
 Don’t hide these things—they are what make you interesting.
 
 5. Have a cause.
 If you don’t give a damn about anything, no one will give a damn about you.
 
 6. Minimize the swagger.
 Egos get in the way of ideas. If your arrogance is more obvious than
 your expertise, you are someone other people avoid.
 
 7. Give it a shot.
 Try it out. Play around with a new idea. Do something strange. If you
 never leave your comfort zone, you won’t grow.
 
 8. Hop off the bandwagon.
 If everyone else is doing it, you’re already late to the party.  Do your
 own thing, and others will hop onto the spiffy wagon you built yourself.
 Besides, it’s more fun to drive than it is to get pulled around.
 
 9. Grow a pair.
 Bravery is needed to have contrary opinions and to take unexpected
 paths. If you’re not courageous, you’re going to be hanging around the
 water cooler, talking about the guy who actually is.
 
 10. Ignore the scolds.
 Boring is safe, and you will be told to behave yourself. The scolds
 could have, would have, should have. But they didn’t. And they resent
 you for your adventures.
 
 
 -- 
 ((Udhay Shankar N)) ((udhay @ pobox.com)) ((www.digeratus.com))
 

Re: [silk] Fwd: [ISN] Certified Ethical Hacker Ankit Fadia Hacked by TGH

[Anish Mohammed]

 Ankit Fadia's (in)abilities haven't been completely secret to a
 certain group of people and, his 'reputation' in that circle might be
 non-existent.

 However, there are circles where his abilities are talked about,
 revered and feted. And, these don't only including the various TV
 shows, they also include some of the premier engineering/research
 institutes where he organizes talks/coaching etc.

 Reputation is relative and fickle. And, those making serious money
 have always ignored the first group.

 Think this is the classic case of folks who know about things are always
ignored by TV shows. I have noticed this even with BBC, when they want to
talk about security they would find someone who has interesting
credentials in the space, to put in mildly.

Re: [silk] Fwd: [ISN] Certified Ethical Hacker Ankit Fadia Hacked by TGH

[Anish Mohammed]

or soundbite types like bruce schneier - who isn't anywhere near as much of
an expert in physical security as he is in crypto, and loves to make
colorful and overly general points that fall apart once you dig deeper


 .
funny you said that, all the crypto folks who i have worked with, three
groups i have worked in consider him a security guy than a cryptographer
:). In hardcore crypto circles I guess he might be seen as closer to
security than crypto and in normal security circles him being seen as
closer to crypto :) an interesting question of perception

Re: [silk] Hello

[Anish Mohammed]

Welcome to silk list an assortment or randomly crazy folks :)

Anish Mohammed
Twitter: anishmohammed
http://uk.linkedin.com/in/anishmohammed

On 13 Jan 2012, at 17:27, John R. Sundman j...@wetmachine.com wrote:

 My ancestry is Finnish, Scottish, and Irish.
 
 Sundman is actually a Swedish name. My grandfather emigrated from Finland to 
 the US in about 1915. He was equally fluent in Swedish and Finnish, but 
 considered himself a Finn, not a Swede. My mother emigrated from Scotland in 
 1946. Her maiden name was McFall. My father's mother emigrated from County 
 Roscommon, in Ireland. Her maiden name was Hudson.
 
 If you have any ancestors in any of these places, who knows, we may be 
 cousins!
 
 jrs
 
 P.S. My wife's grandmother was Cherokee. So my wife (and our children) are at 
 least part Indian.
 
 
 On Jan 13, 2012, at 12:07 PM, Chandrachoodan Gopalakrishnan wrote:
 
 On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 9:42 PM, John R. Sundman j...@wetmachine.comwrote:
 
 Hello Friends,
 
 
 Hello,
 I first read your name as John Sundaraman. And wondered if you were a
 cousin of mine.
 
 C
 
 Blog: http://www.wetmachine.com/
 Books:The Pains: http://the-pains.wetmachine.com
  Acts of the Apostles: http://acts-of-the-apostles.wetmachine.com
  Cheap Complex Devices: http://cheap-complex-devices.wetmachine.com
 Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/jsundman
 Twitter:  http://twitter.com/jsundmanus
 
 
 
 

Re: [silk] TED talk: Khan Academy

[Anish Mohammed]

Those are really good resource for school students, he even has some for 
layperson esp around finance 

Anish Mohammed
Twitter: anishmohammed
http://uk.linkedin.com/in/anishmohammed

On 11 Dec 2011, at 08:48, ss cybers...@gmail.com wrote:

 Video:
 http://computationallegalstudies.com/2011/03/22/salman-khan-lets-use-video-to-
 reinvent-education-ted-2011/
 
 “In 2004, Salman Khan, a hedge fund analyst, began posting math tutorials
 on YouTube. Six years later, he has posted more than 2.000 tutorials,
 which are viewed nearly 100,000 times around the world. In this TED 2011
 Talk,  Salman talks about how and why he created the remarkable Khan
 Academy, a carefully structured series of educational videos offering
 complete curricula in math and, now, other subjects. He shows the power of
 interactive exercises, and calls for teachers to consider flipping the
 traditional classroom script — give students video lectures to watch at
 home, and do “homework” in the classroom with the teacher available to
 help.”
 

Re: [silk] TED talk: Khan Academy

[Anish Mohammed]

I missed the a hedge fund analyst the first time around and had
visions of the dude from Dabanng giving math tutorials. The mind
boggled 
He is an MIT-Harvard dude :)

Anish Mohammed
Twitter: anishmohammed
http://uk.linkedin.com/in/anishmohammed

On 11 Dec 2011, at 10:58, Biju Chacko biju.cha...@gmail.com wrote:

 I missed the a hedge fund analyst the first time around and had
 visions of the dude from Dabanng giving math tutorials. The mind
 boggled

Re: [silk] Freedom of Speech

[Anish Mohammed]

 Any problem gets fixed only when
 
 1) it starts affecting a large enough number of people; and
 2) they start complaining loudly enough; AND
 3) actually start doing something about it.
 
 All of which is orthogonal to the issue of whether the thing being
 complained about is right or wrong.
 
 What was your point, again?
I thought I should add one to the patent troll list, corporates patenting 
genomic sequences of plans and animals which is part of biodiversity in India :)

Anish Mohammed
Twitter: anishmohammed
http://uk.linkedin.com/in/anishmohammed

On 11 Dec 2011, at 11:29, Udhay Shankar N ud...@pobox.com wrote:

 On 11-Dec-11 4:17 PM, Venkat Mangudi wrote:
 A few years ago, everyone was riding the economic boom and totally
 content with things as they were. Whether we were paying bank fees or
 bribes, things were hunky dory except for the odd one speaking up
 against it. It went unnoticed, the speaking up part, that is. Now, the
 world seems to be in an economic crisis and suddenly everyone is sitting
 up and finding someone to blame. So the Americans (for the most part)
 blame the 1%, the middle east blame the dictators and Indians blame the
 corrupt. Yesterday there was a big hullabaloo over Apple patent
 trolling. Patent trolling is old story and most of the large companies,
 especially telcos, have been doing it for decades. So why are we going
 nuts about it now?
 
 Any problem gets fixed only when
 
 1) it starts affecting a large enough number of people; and
 2) they start complaining loudly enough; AND
 3) actually start doing something about it.
 
 All of which is orthogonal to the issue of whether the thing being
 complained about is right or wrong.
 
 What was your point, again?
 
 Udhay
 
 -- 
 ((Udhay Shankar N)) ((udhay @ pobox.com)) ((www.digeratus.com))
 

Re: [silk] Recommended Reading from 2011

[Anish Mohammed]

2. VS Ramachandran's The Tell-Tale Brain: A Neuroscientist's Quest for
What Makes Us Human. I have a gigantic man-crush on VS. Very good.
have to admit i find him a bit hand wavy and too much hype ...

Re: [silk] Recommended Reading from 2011

[Anish Mohammed]

 Interesting. I have read his Phantoms of the Brain and found it
 fascinating. He is not of Oliver Sacks league may be, but too much
 hand wavy is something I would not describe him as.

Btw i spend a few years in medical ( read medically qualified), spend 6-7
years in maths department ( research in cryptanalysis), have wide and
varied interests. Decent understanding of computational neurosciene and
many related areas ( almost a researcher). So going by my views doesnt
imply  it is a generalisation ( btw i have quite atleast a couple of
friends who are researchers in area which overlap the person in question -
who have similiar views), so i guess i am possibly a tiny minority.

Re: [silk] Recommended Reading from 2011

[Anish Mohammed]

 
Hi all,
The reading list seems to be dominated by fiction, given I know a good few on 
this list I find this a bit anomalous , so could be have a non -fiction list as 
well or other topics like the economist does.
Just my two cents worth of thoughts.
Regards
Anish

Anish Mohammed
Twitter: anishmohammed
http://uk.linkedin.com/in/anishmohammed

Re: [silk] Time to Test Corporate Leaders to Weed out Psychopaths

[Anish Mohammed]

Like with all things, its deviation from the norm. BTW there are benefits
to having psychopaths ;) as well... i suspect

On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 7:04 PM, Divya divyasamp...@yahoo.com wrote:


 Top posting, apologies: apropos this thread, one of the books on my
 recommendations list is The Psychopath Test, by Jon Ronson, which is an
 account of Ronson's peripatetic attempts to apply the Hare test to an
 assortment of people from criminals to CEOs.

 Eminently readable stuff.

 Cheers
 Divya

 Sent from my iPad

 On 29 Nov 2011, at 17:24, Jon Cox j...@experiments.com wrote:

 
   A nice summary of psychopathy:
 
   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hon3AzMO6vsfeature=related
 
 
  If true, this also means the astronomically expensive public bailouts
 will not
  solve the problem since many of the morally impaired individuals who
 caused
  this mess likely remain in positions of power. Worse, they may be the
 same
  people advising governments on how to resolve this crisis.
 
 
  Of course the corporate bailouts won't help.
 
  Do we see any genuine signs of remorse?
  No.
 
  Any meaningful steps toward confession or restitution-based atonement?
 
  None whatsoever.
 
  There are none on a personal level, nor are there any on the
  corporate level -- nor will there be.
 
 
  This shark-like fixation on self-interest means that psychopaths often
 feel a
  clear detachment from other people, viewing them more as sheep to be
 preyed
  upon than fellow humans to relate to. For instance, psychopaths in
 prison
  often use group therapy sessions not as a healing process, but as an
  opportunity to learn how to simulate normal human emotions.
 
 
  This is actually a structural component of public corporate charters.
  The official duty of their chief officers is to maximize profits
  for shareholders, period.
 
  The classic screening test is the Hare Psychopathy Checklist Revised
  (PCL-R) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hare_Psychopathy_Checklist
 
  A prototypical psychopath would receive a maximum score of 40,
  while someone with absolutely no psychopathic traits or tendencies
  would receive a score of zero. A score of 30 or above qualifies
  a person for a diagnosis of psychopathy. People with no criminal
  backgrounds normally score around 5.  Many non-psychopathic
  criminal offenders score around 22.
 
 
Scoring:
  0  The item does not apply,
  1  The item applies somewhat
  2  The item fully applies.
 
 
Factor 1: Personality Aggressive narcissism
 
1  Glibness/superficial charm
2  Grandiose sense of self-worth
3  Pathological lying
4  Cunning/manipulative
5  Lack of remorse or guilt
6  Shallow affect (genuine emotion is short-lived and
 egocentric)
7  Callousness; lack of empathy
8  Failure to accept responsibility for own actions
 
   Factor 2: Case history Socially deviant lifestyle.
 
9  Need for stimulation/proneness to boredom
   10  Parasitic lifestyle
   11  Poor behavioral control
   12  Lack of realistic long-term goals
   13  Impulsivity
   14  Irresponsibility
   15  Juvenile delinquency
   16  Early behavior problems
   17  Revocation of conditional release
 
   Traits not correlated with either factor
 
   18 Promiscuous sexual behavior
   19 Many short-term marital relationships
   20 Criminal versatility
   21 Acquired behavioural sociopathy/sociological conditioning
 
 

Re: [silk] Time to Test Corporate Leaders to Weed out Psychopaths

[Anish Mohammed]

defenitely,

   1.  The gene pool
   2. Society


On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 7:25 PM, Thaths tha...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 11:17 AM, Anish Mohammed
 anish.moham...@gmail.com wrote:
  Like with all things, its deviation from the norm. BTW there are
 benefits to
  having psychopaths ;) as well... i suspect

 Benefits to what/whom? The individual? The gene pool? Society?

 S.

 
  On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 7:04 PM, Divya divyasamp...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
  Top posting, apologies: apropos this thread, one of the books on my
  recommendations list is The Psychopath Test, by Jon Ronson, which is an
  account of Ronson's peripatetic attempts to apply the Hare test to an
  assortment of people from criminals to CEOs.
 
  Eminently readable stuff.
 
  Cheers
  Divya
 
  Sent from my iPad
 
  On 29 Nov 2011, at 17:24, Jon Cox j...@experiments.com wrote:
 
  
A nice summary of psychopathy:
  
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hon3AzMO6vsfeature=related
  
  
   If true, this also means the astronomically expensive public bailouts
   will not
   solve the problem since many of the morally impaired individuals who
   caused
   this mess likely remain in positions of power. Worse, they may be the
   same
   people advising governments on how to resolve this crisis.
  
  
   Of course the corporate bailouts won't help.
  
   Do we see any genuine signs of remorse?
   No.
  
   Any meaningful steps toward confession or restitution-based atonement?
  
   None whatsoever.
  
   There are none on a personal level, nor are there any on the
   corporate level -- nor will there be.
  
  
   This shark-like fixation on self-interest means that psychopaths
 often
   feel a
   clear detachment from other people, viewing them more as sheep to be
   preyed
   upon than fellow humans to relate to. For instance, psychopaths in
   prison
   often use group therapy sessions not as a healing process, but as an
   opportunity to learn how to simulate normal human emotions.
  
  
   This is actually a structural component of public corporate charters.
   The official duty of their chief officers is to maximize profits
   for shareholders, period.
  
   The classic screening test is the Hare Psychopathy Checklist Revised
   (PCL-R) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hare_Psychopathy_Checklist
  
   A prototypical psychopath would receive a maximum score of 40,
   while someone with absolutely no psychopathic traits or tendencies
   would receive a score of zero. A score of 30 or above qualifies
   a person for a diagnosis of psychopathy. People with no criminal
   backgrounds normally score around 5.  Many non-psychopathic
   criminal offenders score around 22.
  
  
 Scoring:
   0  The item does not apply,
   1  The item applies somewhat
   2  The item fully applies.
  
  
 Factor 1: Personality Aggressive narcissism
  
 1  Glibness/superficial charm
 2  Grandiose sense of self-worth
 3  Pathological lying
 4  Cunning/manipulative
 5  Lack of remorse or guilt
 6  Shallow affect (genuine emotion is short-lived and
   egocentric)
 7  Callousness; lack of empathy
 8  Failure to accept responsibility for own actions
  
Factor 2: Case history Socially deviant lifestyle.
  
 9  Need for stimulation/proneness to boredom
10  Parasitic lifestyle
11  Poor behavioral control
12  Lack of realistic long-term goals
13  Impulsivity
14  Irresponsibility
15  Juvenile delinquency
16  Early behavior problems
17  Revocation of conditional release
  
Traits not correlated with either factor
  
18 Promiscuous sexual behavior
19 Many short-term marital relationships
20 Criminal versatility
21 Acquired behavioural sociopathy/sociological conditioning
  
  
 
 
 
 



 --
 Marge: Quick, somebody perform CPR!
 Homer: Umm (singing) I see a bad moon rising.
 Marge: That's CCR!
 Homer: Looks like we're in for nasty weather.
 Sudhakar ChandraSlacker Without Borders

Re: [silk] Revealed – the capitalist network that runs the world - New Scientist - New Scientist

[Anish Mohammed]

Sorry, am late in coming in, but has anyone pointed out this
http://marginalrevolution.com/marginalrevolution/2011/10/the-network-of-global-corporate-control.htmlor
this
http://www.forbes.com/sites/timworstall/2011/10/21/150-companies-control-the-world/http://www.forbes.com/sites/timworstall/2011/10/21/150-companies-control-the-world/
?
defenitely looks interesting thanks Salil
regards
Anish

On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 10:22 AM, Salil Tripathi sali...@gmail.com wrote:

 Correlation, causality, etc.



 Salil

Re: [silk] Revealed – the capitalist network that runs the world - New Scientist - New Scientist

[Anish Mohammed]

 A huge list of shadowily held corporations, several you haven't heard of and 
 aren't publicly traded?
Now upto plane spotters and other amateurs to build the picture of interactions 
and interrelationships :)

Anish Mohammed
Twitter: anishmohammed
http://uk.linkedin.com/in/anishmohammed

On 30 Oct 2011, at 05:22, Suresh Ramasubramanian sur...@hserus.net wrote:

 A huge list of shadowily held corporations, several you haven't heard of and 
 aren't publicly traded?
 -- 
 srs (blackberry)
 From: Udhay Shankar N ud...@pobox.com
 Sender: silklist-bounces+suresh=hserus@lists.hserus.net
 Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2011 10:47:50 +0530
 To: silklist@lists.hserus.net
 ReplyTo: silklist@lists.hserus.net
 Subject: Re: [silk] Revealed – the capitalist network that runs the world - 
 New Scientist - New Scientist
 
 On Sun, Oct 30, 2011 at 10:12 AM, Suresh Ramasubramanian sur...@hserus.net 
 wrote:
 its such an old trope, this.. faceless evil world dominating capitalists
 
 I thought the whole point of this study was that the world dominators AREN'T 
 faceless any more.
 
 Udhay
 -- 
 ((Udhay Shankar N)) ((udhay @ pobox.com)) ((www.digeratus.com))

Re: [silk] My paper in the Journal of Asian and African Studies

[Anish Mohammed]

Zainab,
 I would be interested in the paper.
regards
Anish

On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 12:09 PM, Zainab Bawa bawazaina...@gmail.com wrote:

 Dear all,

 My paper titled “Where is the State? How is the State? - Accessing Water
 and the State in Mumbai and Johannesburg” has appeared in the latest Special
 Issue on “Accessing the State” in the Journal of Asian and African Studies.
 I’d be happy to share a copy of the article with anyone who is interested in
 reading it.

 Abstract: This article examines the water distribution systems in
 Johannesburg and Mumbai to argue that the political and institutional
 contexts of service delivery shape people’s access to the state and its
 resources, and also mediation between citizens and government institutions
 by councillors. Through ethnographies of water supply and distribution
 systems in Mumbai and Johannesburg, I explain how the organizational
 structure of the water utility, institutional arrangements of service
 delivery, regulatory systems, councillors’ proximity to decision makers and
 their relationship with municipal officials, civil servants and party
 members variously influence councillors’ mediation capacities and their
 ability to fulfil the claims of their constituencies for piped water supply
 and connections.

 Regards,

 Zainab


 --
 Zainab Bawa
 Ph.D. Student and Independent Researcher

 http://writerruns.wordpress.com/
 ... ambling along roads and courses, not knowing whether I am running
 towards a destination or whether the act of running is destination in itself

Re: [silk] Do coaches improve your professional skills?

[Anish Mohammed]

Hi Udhay,
my thoughts on being in medical profession short while and having watched a
few cardio thoracic surgeons closely through thier career. I beleive there
is value. But i suspect its the way u define coaching. In India you would
talked to ur elders and your relatives who have been in the area vs in US
and west, u have formal definition of things.

I do know of quite a few folks in technology who have coaches. I have to
admit someone suggested it to me as well during one of my career sessions. I
have seen that help folks in profession ( warning - observer bias)
regards
Anish



 * Shiv (and other surgeons on the list) what are your thoughts on this?
 Have you tried it, or seen it being tried? With what results?

 * In general, the notion of coaching helping you with your professional
 life seems to be to be quite well entrenched for the softer skills,
 but not so popular for more technical ones. Is this a correct
 impression, in your experience?

 * A slightly more sociological opinion: the whole notion of coaches
 (i.e., people whom you pay to give you some instruction in some skill
 area) seems very American (more specifically, USAnian) to me. I wonder
 why it should be so. Thoughts?

Re: [silk] Influence of silklisters in India

[Anish Mohammed]

well look at all the rest of them.
quoting one exception (especially an exception with a massive number of
staffers at his service) doesn't disprove this.

All reputational algorithms are known to be prone to attacks ( now wearing 
research hat on). At times it is called  gaming the system to gain 
competitive advantage :)

Anish Mohammed
Twitter: anishmohammed
http://uk.linkedin.com/in/anishmohammed

On 12 Jun 2011, at 13:21, Suresh Ramasubramanian sur...@hserus.net wrote:

 well look at all the rest of them.
 quoting one exception (especially an exception with a massive number of
 staffers at his service) doesn't disprove this.

Re: [silk] Influence of silklisters in India

[Anish Mohammed]

Sigh, deal with the stuff at work and now discuss it on silk :)
mmm reflects my thinking, btw I don't do anymore research on reputation 
algorithms anymore, but it's very interesting topic to ignore it

Anish Mohammed
Twitter: anishmohammed
http://uk.linkedin.com/in/anishmohammed

Re: [silk] Influence of silklisters in India

[Anish Mohammed]

 You don't know this yet. But I'm totally influencing this conversation.
yes u are, btw congrats on getting on that list ;)

Anish Mohammed
Twitter: anishmohammed
http://uk.linkedin.com/in/anishmohammed

On 11 Jun 2011, at 21:20, Sidin Vadukut sidin.vadu...@gmail.com wrote:

 
 
 
 

Re: [silk] A crisis of confidence

[Anish Mohammed]

:) I have to admit I partially support Cheeni in his views (if assumptions are 
true) , but things seem to be changing for better and I am counting on it :) so 
that I could come back :)

Anish Mohammed
Twitter: anishmohammed
http://uk.linkedin.com/in/anishmohammed

On 30 Mar 2011, at 17:35, Srini RamaKrishnan che...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 6:30 PM, Suresh Ramasubramanian
 sur...@hserus.net wrote:
 Cheeni suffers a bit from the india sucks because of the mediocrity, indian 
 crab syndrome etc, hits most guys after a few years working abroad
 
 Heh. I enjoy playing the provocateur, if you want to attribute larger
 causes to it, so be it.
 
 Cheeni
 

Re: [silk] Rockets, path dependence, and lock-in

[Anish Mohammed]

Shiv,
 I would admit upfront that I havent read any of his works, nor a great fan of 
his. Btw I do think the Counter arguments provided looks equally hand wavy.

Udhay, Stephenson, like Arundhati Roy and like all great fiction writers 
builds 
up an elaborate strawman by the use of subtle untruths hidden among reams of 
facts.

The author builds up the impression that large rockets (hitherto unimagined 
size) were the brainchild of the sytem created by Hitler. That is wrong. All 
the elements were in place before Hitler. he father of spaceflight might have 
been Tsiolovsky - who in turn was inspired by Jules Verne. Both rocket planes 
and large unguided rockets had been built outside of Germany before the Hitler 
era. But none was in America, 

Don't get me wrong there is quite a big gap between having an idea and 
implementing it. It is technically easy to build solid fuel rockets, but non 
trivially hard to have liquid fuel ones. Even more harder to do cryogenic ones, 
admittedly the Germans managed to crack them all. As for von Braun and etal, 
they had significant contribution to Apollo program including f-1 rocket motors 
on Saturn V .

Anish Mohammed
Twitter: anishmohammed
http://uk.linkedin.com/in/anishmohammed

On 6 Feb 2011, at 05:00, ss cybers...@gmail.com wrote:

 Udhay, Stephenson, like Arundhati Roy and like all great fiction writers 
 builds 
 up an elaborate strawman by the use of subtle untruths hidden among reams of 
 facts. 
 
 There is far too much that is debatable or just plain wrong in that. The 
 folowing long post deals with only the first four paragraphs - which are used 
 to set the stage to cook up more rubbish later. I refuse to spend time 
 writing 
 any more. In fact I will stick to 3 paras - the fourth alone requires a 
 separate message as explained below.
 
 The author builds up the impression that large rockets (hitherto unimagined 
 size) were the brainchild of the sytem created by Hitler. That is wrong. All 
 the elements were in place before Hitler. he father of spaceflight might 
 have 
 been Tsiolovsky - who in turn was inspired by Jules Verne. Both rocket planes 
 and large unguided rockets had been built outside of Germany before the 
 Hitler 
 era. But none was in America,

Re: [silk] introduction

[Anish Mohammed]

Hi Eva,
  I am doctor in modern medicine. I should caveat this I don't practice, just 
happen to renew my registration on my recent trip to India. I am based in UK 
(London).
Regards
Anish

Anish Mohammed
Twitter: anishmohammed
http://uk.linkedin.com/in/anishmohammed

On 14 Jan 2011, at 03:18, Eva Jansen jansen@web.de wrote:

 Anish, what kind of doc are you?
 Ayurveda?

Re: [silk] introduction

[Anish Mohammed]

It's near the gov eye hospital on the same side of road, not sure of the answer 
for second question 

Anish Mohammed
Twitter: anishmohammed
http://uk.linkedin.com/in/anishmohammed

On 14 Jan 2011, at 10:14, Eva Jansen jansen@web.de wrote:

 but where in trivrandrum?
 

Re: [silk] introduction

[Anish Mohammed]

Hi Eva,
Welcome to silk. Drop me a note for info on registration in Kerala ( yep I am a 
doc and have just renewed my registration inkerala)
Regards

Anish Mohammed
Twitter: anishmohammed
http://uk.linkedin.com/in/anishmohammed

On 12 Jan 2011, at 03:55, Eva Jansen jansen@web.de wrote:

 Dear all,
 
 I am new at silk list, my name is Eva Jansen, I am a German PhD student 
 writing on Naturopathy in South India. At the moment I am looking for 
 information about the legal consequences of medical practisioning basically 
 in Kerala but also in other South Indian states. I guess medical issues are 
 handled statewise but I am not so sure. Does anybody know a lawyer or 
 somebody else who can give me legal advice?
 
 I am happy about comments of any kind,
 
 Eva
 

Re: [silk] Lurkers, hidden audiences, and public archives

[Anish Mohammed]

This begs the question... Why would you want have a public view and a
private view?
a very good philosophical question of contemporary relevance - hint wiki leaks

 It is one thing to say crazy/funny stuff to a group of people, albeit a
 large and largely unknown one, but within a closed setting, but it is
 quite another to say something for anyone to see.

How does it make a difference? You still don't know many of the people
who will be reading this, right?

It doesn't matter u know them, they might know u ;) 

Anish Mohammed
Twitter: anishmohammed
http://uk.linkedin.com/in/anishmohammed

On 15 Dec 2010, at 10:15, Venkat Mangudi s...@venkatmangudi.com wrote:

 Just for the fun of it, here I go. Wh.
 
 On Wednesday 15 December 2010 03:31 PM, Shoba Narayan wrote:
 Recently, I googled Arundhati Roy, for no reason :) and discovered that
  There has to be a
 reason... Come on, out with it. :-)
 
 the posts I had made about her on Silk were in the public domain.  I
 strongly protested when I met Udhay at the Bangalore Silk Meet.  Heated
 discussion ensued.  Someone spilled beer and all was forgotten.
 
 This begs the question... Why would you want have a public view and a
 private view?
 
 It is one thing to say crazy/funny stuff to a group of people, albeit a
 large and largely unknown one, but within a closed setting, but it is
 quite another to say something for anyone to see.
 
 How does it make a difference? You still don't know many of the people
 who will be reading this, right?
 
 --V

Re: [silk] Diaspora

[Anish Mohammed]

Any invites left , can I have one please ;)

Anish Mohammed
Twitter: anishmohammed
http://uk.linkedin.com/in/anishmohammed

On 15 Dec 2010, at 10:41, Venkat Mangudi s...@venkatmangudi.com wrote:

 On Wednesday 15 December 2010 03:57 PM, Ramakrishnan Sundaram wrote:
 Hotmail accounts, I mean, not three letter ids.
 
 Four letter words are better, methinks.
 
 --V
 

Re: [silk] Triskaidekaphilia

[Anish Mohammed]

On 19th December 2010, Silk-List turns 13 years old. it's been quite a
ride (with a surprising number of people who've been around for all 13
years).

hoping to be in bang around that time, would love to join if there is a meet up 
:)

Anish Mohammed
Twitter: anishmohammed
http://uk.linkedin.com/in/anishmohammed

On 24 Nov 2010, at 13:00, Udhay Shankar N ud...@pobox.

Re: [silk] Crowd Sourcing

[anish . mohammed]

What is crowd sourcing? Define/discuss/debat

Are u after finger in the air excercise of after peoper academic research?
 A few books are out there on this topic :), at least I have come across two :)
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Re: [silk] Crowd Sourcing

[anish . mohammed]

Care to name them?
the books I could recall include one by Jeff Howe and James Suroweiki (forgive 
me for spelling) and wikinomics
Regards
Anish
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Re: [silk] Crowd Sourcing

[anish . mohammed]

The rather well-known aphorism later dubbed Linus' Law [2]:

``Given enough eyeballs, all bugs are shallow.''
 This assumes similar levels of expertise in all owners of eyes :) and hence 
doesn't work in specialist areas (e.g. Crypto/ security)

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Re: [silk] A Mathematical Model of Sentimental Dynamics Accounting for Marital Dissolution

[Anish Mohammed]

Sent from my iPad

On 31 Aug 2010, at 02:16, Udhay Shankar N ud...@pobox.com wrote:

 This early in the morning, I can't tell if this is for real or not.
 
 Udhay
 
  Original Message 
 Subject:  A Mathematical Model of Sentimental Dynamics Accounting for
 Marital Dissolution
 Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2010 13:12:44 -0700
 From: redacted
 To: undisclosed-recipients:;
 
 A Mathematical Model of Sentimental Dynamics Accounting for Marital
 Dissolution
 
 Marital dissolution is ubiquitous in western societies. It poses major
 scientific and sociological problems both in theoretical and therapeutic
 terms. Scholars and therapists agree on the existence of a sort of *second
 law of thermodynamics for sentimental relationships*. Effort is required to
 sustain them. Love is not enough.
 
 Building on a simple version of the second law we use optimal control theory
 as a novel approach to model sentimental dynamics. Our analysis is
 consistent with sociological data. We show that, when both partners have
 similar emotional attributes, there is an optimal effort policy yielding a
 durable happy union. This policy is prey to structural destabilization
 resulting from a combination of two factors: there is an effort gap because
 the optimal policy always entails discomfort and there is a tendency to
 lower effort to non-sustaining levels due to the instability of the
 dynamics.
 
 These mathematical facts implied by the model unveil an underlying mechanism
 that may explain couple disruption in real scenarios. Within this framework
 the apparent paradox that a union consistently planned to last forever will
 probably break up is explained as a mechanistic consequence of the second
 law.
 
 Marital dissolution is ubiquitous in western societies. It poses major
 scientific and sociological problems both in theoretical and therapeutic
 terms. Scholars and therapists agree on the existence of a sort of *second
 law of thermodynamics for sentimental relationships*. Effort is required to
 sustain them. Love is not enough.
 Methodology/Principal Findings
 
 Building on a simple version of the second law we use optimal control theory
 as a novel approach to model sentimental dynamics. Our analysis is
 consistent with sociological data. We show that, when both partners have
 similar emotional attributes, there is an optimal effort policy yielding a
 durable happy union. This policy is prey to structural destabilization
 resulting from a combination of two factors: there is an effort gap because
 the optimal policy always entails discomfort and there is a tendency to
 lower effort to non-sustaining levels due to the instability of the
 dynamics.
 Conclusions/Significance
 
 These mathematical facts implied by the model unveil an underlying mechanism
 that may explain couple disruption in real scenarios. Within this framework
 the apparent paradox that a union consistently planned to last forever will
 probably break up is explained as a mechanistic consequence of the second
 law.
 *A must read:
 http://www.plosone.org/article/info:doi/10.1371/journal.pone.0009881*
 
Hi udhay,
The URL doesn't seem to work :(
Anish

Re: [silk] What happened at Yahoo

[anish . mohammed]

I was at Yahoo 2003-2008.
Randy out of curiosity, where are u working these days :)
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Re: [silk] P=NP. Solved?!

[anish . mohammed]

Total wow moment. Mouth hung open and all that jazz. Colleague wondering what 
the heck happened. :)And more surprised by the fact that no one on Silk 
posted this so far. :P

I have to admit this is second time I saw a fellow Indian mention this, first 
was Paul (he is ex Indian Statistcal Institute - Currently in NIST) on NIST 
SHA3 mailing list.
  Found some interesting comments from the crypto bunch :), currently in watch 
and wait phase :)))
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Re: [silk] TRRK

[anish . mohammed]

Some more detail and condolences here:
http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/shifting-gears/86801-trrk-dr-t-r-rajesh-kumar-obituary.html
Will someone who can read Malayalam translate the obituary notice?
Udhay I was unable to find anything in malayalam there :(, except refernce to 
malaya manorama

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Re: [silk] TRRK

[Anish Mohammed]

On Sun, Aug 8, 2010 at 11:52 AM, Udhay Shankar N ud...@pobox.com wrote:

 On 8/8/2010 3:27 PM, anish.moham...@gmail.com wrote:
  Some more detail and condolences here:
  http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/shifting-
 gears/86801-trrk-dr-t-r-rajesh-kumar-obituary.html
  Will someone who can read Malayalam translate the obituary notice?
  Udhay I was unable to find anything in malayalam there :(, except
 refernce to malaya manorama

 Yes, the actual obituary:

 
 http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/attachments/shifting-gears/401921d1281234773t-trrk-dr-t-r-rajesh-kumar-obituary-08082010069.jpg
 

 Udhay
 --
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Hi Udhay,
 I have never expected in my life to translate something from malayalam to
english (given my very poor language skills). Anyways I have made an attempt
at this.

The orbiturary reads as follows:-

Alapuzha, Sheematti Textiles owner, Dr. T.R. Rajesh has passed away. He is
the son of late Ramamurthi Reddiar. Burial would happen in Alaphuzha Valiya
Chuttukattil
Inserted on behalf of
wife: Uma Maheshwary
dauther : Partha Vikneshwary
Management and staff :Sheematti textiles

Re: [silk] TRRK

[anish . mohammed]

Yes I read that reference to a fracture. That would not be a heart attack 
but a fat embolism. Either way it can kill as surely and quickly as a heart 
attack. 

Hi Shiv,
 I too (as a fellow medic) thought the reference was a bit illogical.

TRRK left medical pratice because his father died (early) so there is a 
family 
history there - but there is no connection between a heart attack and a fat 
embolism.
Yep, their family run a series of successful textile/clothing chains in Kerala.
Regards
Anish 


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Re: [silk] The Sixth New India Lecture

[anish . mohammed]

Forwarding by request, for those who might be interested. The attachment
referred to below can be seen at
http://digeratus.com/misc/NewIndia%20Invite.jpg

Udhay

Begin forwarded message:

 From: New India Foundation newindiafoundat...@gmail.com
 Date: July 21, 2010 4:27:39 PM GMT+05:30
 Subject: The Sixth New India Lecture

 Please find attached an invitation to the Sixth New India Lecture  
 to be delivered by Professor Raghuram Rajan
 on 1st August 2010 at 6 p.m.

 Kindly attend.

 Warm regards

 Ramachandra Guha

I admit to having attended lectures from Prof Raghuram ( Chicago campus). His 
view points are interesting a bit different from rest of Chicago folks :)
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Re: [silk] Google ditches Windows?

[anish . mohammed]

It's the 80:20 rule. If you have to spend the same amount of effort
crafting a Windows exploit as a Mac exploit you'd be stupid to write a
Mac exploit. When someone, in the context of malware, says the Mac
isn't mainstream they aren't dissing the Mac platform, they're
observing the realities of the installed base.  I believe u are pointing to 
the fact if the malware is betwork based, if there is less than 50% chance of 
communicating to a similiar OS based host ( this assumes that the exploit used 
is OS specific) the spread would die out, quite fast. And if it has more than 
half probability u could have epidomolgical spread (e.g. Case of windows)
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Re: [silk] Anyone want to build anti-censorship tools for China?

[Anish Mohammed]

On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 9:14 AM, Udhay Shankar N ud...@pobox.com wrote:

 From a friend of mine. Anyone who's interested, let me know and I will
 make the intros.

 Udhay

 HI Udhay,

  i would be intersted in it. i have done some work on onion routing :-) and
have some interest in privacy.
regards
Anish

Re: [silk] When will I see such sysadmins?

[anish . mohammed]

You don't want to - I work with some of them and it's scary.

Cheeni

Can we assume that they do communicate in human freindly language and not hex :)

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Re: [silk] Simon singh's gets attention from MoJ

[anish . mohammed]

You don't think it's suspicious that the judgement is dated April 1?

-- ams
I can verify that, it was on bbc and on other newspapers as well :)
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Re: [silk] mallus drink heavily .. news at 11, on the bbc

[anish . mohammed]

 I was speaking to a professor at one of the best universities in
 Kerala, who does a lot of policy work. He said that he prefers to do
 policy work in Delhi rather than in Kerala because he found that
 everything that he did was opposed, and that it was an ingrained part
 of Kerala culture to do so. I have never lived in Kerala, so perhaps,
 those who have lived there/are living there can tell me more?

I worked for a little over nine months in Kerala.  Number of lost
working days due to hartal, general strike or some such amounted to
ninteen days in this period.  Hartals are a celebration of sorts back
home: you'd find bigger queues at beverages corporation's outlets on
any hartal eve.  The left, right, centre, and the unlabelled can all
equally take credit for this feat.

I've been in Bangalore for well over six years now.  Lost working days
due to similar reasons are zero here

I didn't realise we had so many mallus on the list :), udhays beware its high 
time we had a hartal (btw I too am a mallu )


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[silk] Simon singh's gets attention from MoJ

[anish . mohammed]

Hi all,
 Thought I should drop in a line. The gov in UK has interevened - a bit in 
Simon's case it was on the daily politics show :)
Regards
Anish
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Re: [silk] online banking security analysis

[anish . mohammed]

Hi Abhijit,
  I have admit upfront, I haven't done any analysis for Indian Banks. But from 
what ever I have seen e.g. They use two factor authentication( I have one from 
them). From my conversations with folks in security in India other this, they 
gave me the impression, other banks have similiar levels of security.
Anish
PS:- disclimer I live and work in UK :)
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Re: [silk] update from Simon Singh

[anish . mohammed]

My comments at end of message(being posted from blackberry - aplogies ahead of 
time)

 1. Back at the High Court - final update
 
 My ongoing libel case goes to the Court of Appeal on Tuesday, when the 
 meaning of my article will be decided by three of the most senior judges in 
 the country. Whatever the outcome, the ruling could have a major impact on 
 how English libel laws affect free speech in Britain and around the world.
 
 I have written about the case at length in previous emails, so I will not 
 summarise the story again. In fact, this will be the last time that I mention 
 the libel case until the whole legal process has been completed. So, if you 
 want to keep up to date with the case then please track events on twitter by 
 following @slsingh or #libelreform
 
 My final words on the subject are simply a plea to sign up to the petition 
 for libel reform. English libel laws have a damaging impact on writers around 
 the world, so we welcome signatories from all countries. My own writing has 
 effectively been halted for almost two years because of the extortionate 
 costs of libel and the painfully slow legal process. More generally, the 
 libel laws can effecively crush criticism by bloggers, scientists, 
 journalists, humans rights organizations and many others. Please sign up at 
 www.libelreform.org/sign
 
 If you would like more information on why English libel laws are so 
 oppressive, then please visit
 http://www.libelreform.org/news/432-simon-singhs-weird-idea-that-might-just-work
 
 And, if you have already signed the petition, then please encourage others to 
 sign up. If you want to remind yourself of the reasons that might persuade 
 your friends, family and colleagues to sign up to libel reform then please 
 visit the link at the end of the previous paragraph.
 

Given we have quite a few lawyers on the list, especially the ones which 
practice in UK. I was wondering if they would share their insights :)
Regards
Anish
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[silk] Cory on bbc

[anish . mohammed]

Hi all,
 Thought of dropping in a note, as I saw Cory on BBC, congrats on getting on 
bbc news.
Regards
Anish
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Re: [silk] What matters now

[anish . mohammed]

Apologies on top post, few of my colegues at work have reccomended it :)
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-Original Message-
From: Udhay Shankar N ud...@pobox.com
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 15:39:45 
To: silklist@lists.hserus.net
Subject: [silk] What matters now

Interesting. Another self-conscious attempt to kickstart a social
movement (or ten). The download itself is quite thought-provoking, and
I recommend it. Thoughts from the folks here?

Udhay

http://sethgodin.typepad.com/seths_blog/2009/12/what-matters-now-get-the-free-ebook.html

Now, more than ever, we need to shake things up.

Now, more than ever, we need a different way of thinking, a useful way
to focus and the energy to turn the game around. I hope a new ebook
I've organized will get you started on that path. It took months, but
I think you'll find it worth the effort. (Download here).

Here are more than seventy big thinkers, each sharing an idea for you
to think about as we head into the new year. From bestselling author
Elizabeth Gilbert to brilliant tech thinker Kevin Kelly, from
publisher Tim O'Reilly to radio host Dave Ramsey, there are some
important people riffing about important ideas here. The ebook
includes Tom Peters, Jackie Huba and Jason Fried, along with Gina
Trapani, Bill Taylor and Alan Webber.

Here's the deal: it's free. Download it here. Or from any of the many
sites around the web that are posting it with insightful commentary.
Tweet it, email it, post it on your own site. I think it might be fun
to make up your own riff and post it on your blog or online profile as
well. It's a good exercise. Can we get this in the hands of 5 million
people? You can find an easy to use version on Scribd as well and from
wepapers. Please share.

Have fun. Here's to a year with ideas even bigger than these.

Here's a lens with all the links plus an astonishing array of books by
our authors.

-- 
((Udhay Shankar N)) ((udhay @ pobox.com)) ((www.digeratus.com))

Re: [silk] Sand Animation in Ukraine's Got Talent

[anish . mohammed]

Top post courtsey blackberry,
 I have seen persiplois and Grave
of the Fireflies , I did like them both. Persepolis has a political message, I 
couldn't see such a message in the anime film.
Regards
Anish 
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-Original Message-
From: Vinayak Hegde vinay...@gmail.com
Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2009 18:48:38 
To: silklist@lists.hserus.net
Subject: Re: [silk] Sand Animation in Ukraine's Got Talent

On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 6:27 PM, Udhay Shankar N ud...@pobox.com wrote:
 Vinayak Hegde wrote, [on 10/17/2009 2:01 PM]:

 Simonova's sand story portrays the human loss after the German invasion in
 1941. The opening scene shows a couple sitting on a bench under a starry
 sky. Warplanes appear and the happy scene is obliterated to be replaced by
 crying faces. Then a baby arrives and the woman smiles again, but war and
 chaos return and a young woman becomes an old widow, before the image turns
 into an obelisk – the Ukrainian monument to its Unknown Soldier.

 On a similar note, I highly recommend watching Persepolis[1] - A
 animated fillm (I am not sure that 'Animated film' is the right word
 since much of the film mirrors the comic feel). The story follows a
 young girl as she comes of age against the backdrop of the Iranian
 Revolution.


 Similarly, I highly recommend the album_Dead Winter Dead_ [1] by
 Savatage, which I've mentioned here before [2].

 A love story set against the backdrop of the war in Bosnia, it fuses
 great storytelling (both musical and lyrical) with amazing musicianship
 and the fusion on Mozart and metal. Highly recommended.


I of my friends whom I am trying to get on silk recommended the Grave
of the Fireflies [1] (Anime Film - consider one of the best anti-war
movies). Another great movie on the Kurdish extermination by Saddam is
Turtles can Fly [2]. All the protagonists in this movie are children
just like Grave of the Fireflies and Persepolis.

-- Vinayak

References -
1. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grave_of_the_Fireflies
2. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turtles_Can_Fly

Re: [silk] For Googlers

[anish . mohammed]

Apologies for top post (blackberry handicap). Wave is a collaboration platform 
similiar to sharepoint ( 10,000 foot view) on the cloud :)
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-Original Message-
From: ss cybers...@gmail.com
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2009 07:32:54 
To: silklist@lists.hserus.net
Subject: Re: [silk] For Googlers

On Wednesday 14 Oct 2009 3:29:27 pm Aditya Kapil wrote:
 How does one get a Google Wave account / invite?
 Adit.

What is Google wave?

shiv

Re: [silk] For Googlers

[anish . mohammed]

Apologies for top post I am sure there are more folks from silklist on wave :). 
BTW I believe there are more early adoptors on the list than general populace, 
any thoughts (sociolgists/anthroplogists :))
--Original Message--
From: Aditya Kapil
Sender: silklist-bounces+anish.mohammed=gmail@lists.hserus.net
To: silklist@lists.hserus.net
ReplyTo: silklist@lists.hserus.net
Subject: Re: [silk] For Googlers
Sent: 14 Oct 2009 11:12

On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 3:33 PM, Eugen Leitl eu...@leitl.org wrote:

 On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 03:29:27PM +0530, Aditya Kapil wrote:
  How does one get a Google Wave account / invite?

 Udhay may have some left, but they take several days to arrive.

 Thanks. Will ask him.
Adit.



-- 
I'm disturbed, I'm depressed, I'm inadequate, I've got it all! - George
Costanza


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Re: [silk] Ombaba gets Nobel peace

[anish . mohammed]

Aplogies for top post, could please eluidate ur line of reasoning
--Original Message--
From: Udhay Shankar N
Sender: silklist-bounces+anish.mohammed=gmail@lists.hserus.net
To: silklist@lists.hserus.net
ReplyTo: silklist@lists.hserus.net
Subject: Re: [silk] Ombaba gets Nobel peace
Sent: 9 Oct 2009 18:56

Eugen Leitl wrote, [on 10/9/2009 10:32 PM]:

 Apparently, you missed the memo. (You also mention Mother Teresa, which
 is not exactly a lily-white saint figure, whatever the official hagiography
 says).

This is one of my favourite rant topics, though I think I've mostly
spared silk so far on this. I can't think of many people who've worked
so diligently to further the cause of human misery (no, that's not a
typo) who have such a sparkling reputation.

Udhay
-- 
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Re: [silk] Kerala Government Initiative for creating investmentopportunities for Muslims

[anish . mohammed]

Kiran,
 Apologies for the top post (blame it on blackberry). 
I am assuming as one of the target population, I found this an intersting 
develpment. I have to admit that I came across a report on Forrester on islamic 
banking, I am gald that kerala gov has taken the initiative for right or wrong 
reasons. Co-existance of islamic ( this definition is gray area) with normal 
banking exists in some european countries, I believe there is even a few 
operating in US (according to report). As for me, I would possibly wait and see 
:)

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-Original Message-
From: Kiran K Karthikeyan kiran.karthike...@gmail.com
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2009 11:55:49 
To: silklist@lists.hserus.net
Subject: [silk] Kerala Government Initiative for creating investment
opportunities for Muslims

A wonderful initiative from both a social and developmental
perspective. Infrastructure in Kerala could do with some improvement.

I'm not aware of any country where standard banking and Islamic
banking regulations coexist and it would be very interesting how
regulations will change to accomodate this.

Kiran

Bank on us: Kerala makes investment offer to Muslims

Saumya Roy / Forbes India

Funds for infrastructure projects, and Shariah-compliant investment
opportunities for Keralite Muslims--with one stroke, the Kerala
government has come up with a solution for these two problems.

The state government is in the process of setting up a Rs 1,000 crore
investment company that will offer equipment leasing and home loans,
and invest in Islamic compliant ways. This will be India’s first
government-controlled Islamic company.

The Kerala government’s decision is intelligent. Of the Rs. 43,288
crore that were remitted into the state in 2008, Rs. 18,998 crore came
from non-resident Muslims, says a report by the
Thiruvananthapuram-based Centre for Development Studies. This money
may not be invested in a way that gets the best returns because
Muslims fear that the investment may run foul of Islamic investment
principles.

The Shariah, which stipulates dos and don’ts for observant Muslims,
prohibits earning or living off interest. Muslims are not allowed to
invest in pork, alcohol or gaming companies. They are not allowed to
invest in banks and other companies whose debt is more than a third of
their market capitalisation and receivables are less than 5 percent.
Most non-resident Keralite Muslims therefore let their money generate
sub-optimal returns.

Shariq Nisar, director at Mumbai-based Shariah investment consulting
firm, Taqwaa Advisory and Shariah Investment Solutions, says, “A
survey found the Malayalee Muslims use their remittances to buy
jewelry, real estate or open bank accounts offering no interest. Now
the government wants to use it for infrastructure development and to
give better returns to these non-resident Keralites.” Nisar’s firm is
advising the Kerala government on setting up the Islamic investment
company.

The company will ensure that investors’ funds are deployed in
Shariah-compliant ways. So, initially it will provide finance for
cranes, trucks, wagons or other equipment to infrastructure companies,
through a lease-to-own system known as Ijara. Here, the company would
buy the capital equipment and the user would pay an installment that
consists of rental for use and part-payment.

The Kerala government’s step is significant. While some small
companies have provided some Islamic products, the first
government-backed company could provide much needed stimulus to the
floundering Islamic investment sector in India. Islamic Funds in Saudi
Arabia and Malaysia, two major markets for such investing, have more
than $23.86 billion under management, according to a report by
professional services company, Ernst and Young.

The report lists India as one of the countries with high potential
because of its large Muslim population and large untapped market
thanks to a lack of Islamic financial products including bonds,
insurance or mutual funds.

“This allergy the central government had [to religion-specific
financial products], meant that Shariah-compliant investments from the
Middle East and South East Asia went to European or US companies
rather than here,” says Syed Beary, whose construction company has
Shariah-compliant funding for his 1.2 million square foot office
development project near Bangalore.

Hasib Ahmed, principal investment officer, who manages Asian
Development Bank’s Islamic Investment Fund among others, says, “Just
because India does not have a banking law for Islamic banking, does
not mean that it would be losing out on remittance inflows, as these
funds go to support families living at home and are absolutely
essential. However, Islamic investment flows might and possibly do not
come to India as banking laws do not provide Islamic structures for
investments.”

Will Muslims from Kerala invest? Kerala’s industries minister,
Elemaram Kareem says, “We want to honour Malayalee 

Re: [silk] Kerala Government Initiative for creatinginvestmentopportunities for Muslims

[anish . mohammed]

Apolpgies for top post again, the concept of insurance (as we know it) is 
unislamic (with my limited knowledge), so I be suprised if one would expect 
such a thing. The key with islamic banking is investor shares ur risk ( again 
limited knowledge)
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-Original Message-
From: Kiran K Karthikeyan kiran.karthike...@gmail.com
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2009 13:54:07 
To: silklist@lists.hserus.net
Subject: Re: [silk] Kerala Government Initiative for creating
investmentopportunities for Muslims

2009/10/8 anish.moham...@gmail.com

 Co-existance of islamic ( this definition is gray area) with normal banking
 exists in some european countries, I believe there is even a few operating
 in US (according to report).


I'm aware of co-existence to the extent that they are available, but are
they also covered by regulations, deposit insurance etc.? Are there for
example, different capital adequacy norms for Islamic banking? And as I
understand it, any form of insurance is against Shari'a.

Kiran

Re: [silk] Kerala Government Initiative for creatinginvestmentopportunities for Muslims

[anish . mohammed]

Apologies for top post
Hi That's,
 I had concerns along similiar lines ( there is lot of grey area in this space, 
if it is regular bankers (implying not influenced by sharia), then practice 
would be different from theory/advice )
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From: Thaths tha...@gmail.com
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2009 06:22:41 
To: silklist@lists.hserus.net
Subject: Re: [silk] Kerala Government Initiative for creating
investmentopportunities for Muslims

On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 3:51 AM, Aadisht Khanna aadisht.gro...@gmail.com wrote:
 [1] Only mild exaggeration. The Islamic Banking division of my former
 employer was run by a TamBrahm. The most senior Muslims were the advisory
 council who passed judgement on whether the products devised were halal or
 not.

Is that kosher?

Thaths
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Homer: Pfft. I know a genuine Panaphonics when I see it. And look, there's
   a Magnetbox and Sorny.

Re: [silk] Alternative careers

[anish . mohammed]

Apologies for top post (bame that on blackberry). As someone has already 
mentioned my name (udhay), I thought I should speak for myself.
  My choice of career was influenced by many things,
1) Parental decisions ( this made worse by me topping the entrance exams)
2) Limited career guidance
3) Geograhical location ( hailing from a small  town, and not sure of leaving 
th state - read ragging)
4) Financial independence ( rather lack of it in India)
5) My ignorance/ cowardice
  A few years in med school, made me take the leap and I did 
secuirty/cryptography since when I left med school. Along the way got the 
credntials for being what I wanted to be (degrees/time spend in research 
instiutes, papers etc). I hope someday I might be able to get some value add 
out of the time spend in med school.
That is my humble take on situation
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Sent: 2 Oct 2009 11:19

On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 9:58 PM, Radhika, Y. radhik...@gmail.com wrote:
 i know of at least 2 who left consulting jobs to become teachers at much
 less pay. they did this in the U S though.

School teachers are paid more than Swiss Air pilots in Switzerland. I
think this is called - getting your priorities right!

Cheeni



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Re: [silk] Somebody from the past (at least for people who love /hate when they hear CiX) - Introduction

[anish . mohammed]

Apologies for top post, blame it on hand held, 
Lukman, I suspect we using generalistion and inductions , which doesn't work 
well with humans :)
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-Original Message-
From: Luqmaan lukhman_k...@yahoo.com
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 10:49:16 
To: silklist@lists.hserus.net
Subject: Re: [silk] Somebody from the past (at least for people who love /
hate when they hear CiX) - Introduction

  Not much freedom of speech/thought there. Was it?
 So mean of you! Trying to drag me into a controversy?

I think people should not hesitate to call a spade a spade.
Although calling a moron - a moron - is Ad Hominem.

The problem with you is - you try to be politically correct all the time. Quite 
unlike the vociferous malayalis.

 There I was part of the 'restrictors' of freedom!
 A little control never hurt anybody, that's my opinion.

It hurts and hurts bad. In fact it hurt the BBS itself.

I am sure you don't agree.

Lukhman

Re: [silk] Somebody from the past (at least for people who love / hate when they hear CiX) - Introduction

[Anish Mohammed]

On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 4:03 PM, Rajesh Kumar trrk.s...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,

 I am T R Rajesh Kumar, a resident of Alleppey, a coastal town in the
 central
 part of Kerala. I am 52, married to Asha and have a 15 year old daughter,
 Prarthana Vigneshwari who is doing her 10th in a local school. My interests
 are automobiles, computers and being in touch with people like this.



 I run a retail textile shop here since 1985. I finished my MBBS in 1982
 from
 Jawaharlal Nehru Medical College, Belgaum. Since 1985, I do not practice
 medicine except for treating myself.

 Regards,

 trrk

 Rajesh

Hi Rajesh,
 welcome to silk, from another fellow doc who doesnt practice :-). Did MBBS
from gov medical college Trivandrum
regards
Anish

Re: [silk] Using Amazon's Kindle in India

[Anish Mohammed]

 Yes. Do not accept DRM-encrusted hardware.

As far as I could understand, it runs linux, u might be able to do whatever
u want :-), it provides u with a decent resolution, thin form factor and
linux



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[silk] Bangalore meetup

[anish . mohammed]

Hi Silk-listers,
  I would be in bangalore on monday(10 th) and tuesday  was wondering if anyone 
of u would be around to meet up for a drink/ dinner, open to suggestions of 
place and timing :)
Regards
Anish
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Re: [silk] Hello

[anish . mohammed]

Apologies again for top post, (blame blackberry) 
Welcome doc (from one doc to another :) )
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Sent: 20 May 2009 20:39

Welcome Doc!


Regards,

Chetan

- Original message -
From: Dr. John Marshall Johnson johnso...@gmail.com
To: silklist@lists.hserus.net
Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 07:25:38 -0700
Subject: [silk] Hello

Hi,

I just subscribed to this List, thanks to Udhay.
(In the past, I used to only read messages of silk-list on Yahoogroups)

Well, can see Shiv, Mahesh, IG, Chetan,
Venkat, Ram  out here.  Hi !! guys.

For those who don't know me, I am Johnson, (was at Cix),
well, more about me at www.johnson.in

_ j o h n s o n

* miss those taglines *




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Re: [silk] Cory on DRM

[anish . mohammed]

Apologies for top post, DRM without hardware support is even proven to be 
impossible :) 
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Subject: [silk] Cory on DRM
Sent: 19 May 2009 20:08

I quite enjoyed this piece:

http://www.debiantutorials.org/a-drm-dissertation-off-topic-230

snip

Here's what I'm here to convince you of:

   1. That DRM systems don't work
   2. That DRM systems are bad for society
   3. That DRM systems are bad for business
   4. That DRM systems are bad for artists
   5. That DRM is a bad business-move for MSFT

/snip

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Re: [silk] All done with mirrors

[anish . mohammed]

Apologies for top post, blame blackberry for that one. There are polariser 
based optical solution to keep prying eyes from laptops. I haven't come across 
attacks on those or efficincy of counter measures (e.g. like fonts that Marcus 
had developed)
Regards
Anish
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Sent: 12 May 2009 08:43

On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 8:26 AM, Udhay Shankar N ud...@pobox.com wrote:

 Wow. This is truly cool. And scary.



The new reflective screens on laptops don't help. Sit in a conference room
with a window behind you, or on a train next to a window, and everyone
around you gets a magnified and clear picture of your screen.

Cheeni


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Re: [silk] DNA cryptography

[anish . mohammed]

Hi Udhay,
 Apologies on top post, as another cryptographer on the list my humble thoughts 
:). Looks intersting, the classic paper to have a look at is Adelman's paper.
 Doing operations, have been not very efficient using DNA
Regards
Anish
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From: Udhay Shankar N ud...@pobox.com

Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 17:39:05 
To: silklist@lists.hserus.net
Subject: [silk] DNA cryptography


I'd be very interested in the thoughts of various listmembers on this
(Perry, you there?)

Udhay

http://www.technologyreview.com/blog/arxiv/23167/

The emerging science of DNA cryptography

If DNA computing can be used to break codes, then the machinery of life
can be exploited to encrypt data too
Wednesday, March 18, 2009

Molecular biologists have long thought of DNA as an information storage
device. The body processes this information with an impressive array of
computing machinery which, since the 1990s, we've exploited to carry out
a few of our own calculations.

DNA computing may not be fast but it is massively parallel. With the
right kind of setup, it has the potential to solve huge mathematical
problems. It's hardly surprising then, that DNA computing represents a
serious threat to various powerful encryption schemes such as the Data
Encryption Standard (DES).

But if DNA can be used to break codes then it can also be exploited to
encrypt data. Various groups have suggested using the sequence of
nucleotides in DNA (A for 00, C for 01, G for 10, T for 11) for just
this purpose. One idea is to not even bother encrypting the information
but simply burying it in the DNA so it is well hidden, a technique
called DNA steganography.

But that all sounds to simple for Nang King, an independent researcher
who today puts forward an entirely new approach based on the way in
which information from DNA is processed inside cells. The processing
works in two stages called transcription and translation.

In transcription, a DNA segment that constitutes a gene is converted
into messenger RNA (mRNA) which floats out of the nucleus and into the
body of the cell. this happens only after the noncoding parts of the
gene have been removed and the remaining sequences spliced back together.

In translation, molecular computers called ribosomes read the
information that mRNA carries and uses it to assemble amino acids into
protein chains.

This is a one way process. Information can be transferred from DNA to a
protein but it cannot be converted back. There reasons are various. How
would this process know where to reinsert the noncoding regions of DNA
that were originally cut out or what these noncoding sequences would
have consisted of in the first place?

Nang's idea is that Alice encodes her message in the original DNA
sequence and allows this to be transcribed and translated. The resulting
protein is then like a public key which can be sent to Bob through a
public channel. Meanwhile, Alice sends Bob the secret key which consists
of the information he needs to reassemble the DNA such as the location
of the noncoding regions that need to be reinserted.

Nang says that this form of cryptography is surprisingly secure to a
number of powerful attacks. But he also points out various weaknesses
such as that the encryption becomes increasingly difficult if more
complex keys are used.

But it piques the interest for sure. And as an additional weapon in the
cryptographer's armoury, it's surely an idea worthy of further study.

Ref: arxiv.org/abs/0903.2693: A Pseudo DNA Cryptography Method

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