Re: CSHope springs
I would love to read the report of the UK Parliament, but the link returns a site not found error message. Alas. JBB On Thursday, Apr 14, 2005, at 01:59 Asia/Tokyo, Terry Chamberlin wrote: For a pick-me-up, read the rest of this: UK Parliament SMASHES Big Pharma... Opinion by Consumer Advocate Tim Bolen Thursday, April 7th, 2005 Just two days ago, in my newsletter article The Coming US Health Movement v. Big Pharma Codex War..., I announced the demise of Big Pharma's attempt to shut down the supplement industry. But little did I know at the time that that day, Tuesday, April 5th, 2005, would go down in the annals as a double-whammy of Big Pharma's murderous intent. Wait 'til you read this. Sit up straight. For, this story you are almost NOT going to believe. I'm going to have to convince you with data. To do that I'm going to tell you that you are going to have to do what I just did - you're going to have to read a 126 page report just issued by the British government titled House of Commons Health Committee - THE INFLUENCE OF THE PHARMACEUTICAL INDUSTRY http://www.quackpotwatch.org/opinionpieces/ UK%20Parliament%20SMASHES%20Big%20Pharma.htm __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCataracts Cured
Hi Brickey, My dear dog has a ripe cataract and I'm desperately trying to find a way to regain her sight. Please do give specifics about your flaxseed oil, CS and DMSO regimine. Thanks so much, Raine with Chino the one-eyed wonder dog brick...@aol.com wrote: snip One treatment I tried was cayenne in the eye wash cup. A way to tell how tough you are is if you open your eyes during the wash. I got rid of my cataracts mainly using flaxseed oil but they are now returning. CS and DMSO is now my preferred treatment. snip
CSRe[2]: CSCataracts Cured
Hi Raine, I heard Miracle 11 neutralizer will do it you just put the drops in the eyes. alos one guy on another list fixed his with coconut water. Take care, V Hi Brickey, My dear dog has a ripe cataract and I'm desperately trying to find a way to regain her sight. Please do give specifics about your flaxseed oil, CS and DMSO regimine. Thanks so much, Raine with Chino the one-eyed wonder dog brick...@aol.com wrote: snip One treatment I tried was cayenne in the eye wash cup. A way to tell how tough you are is if you open your eyes during the wash. I got rid of my cataracts mainly using flaxseed oil but they are now returning. CS and DMSO is now my preferred treatment. snip -- -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRe[2]: CSCataracts Cured
Hiya V, I believe I am on the same list, as I've recently read about the usage of coconut water (I assume this is the same as coconut milk?) for cataracts. Because I know cataracts are caused by oxidation in the eye, and DMSO has such strong anti-oxidant properties, I am most interested in this. Of course, anything effective is high on my to research list, so coconut water will definitely be considered, as will this Miracle 11. This is the first I've heard of it. Thanks! -Raine V wrote: Hi Raine, I heard Miracle 11 neutralizer will do it you just put the drops in the eyes. alos one guy on another list fixed his with coconut water. Take care, V
CSRe[2]: CSRe[2]: CSCataracts Cured
Hi Raine, The coconut water is the actula water out of young coconuts. Its different than coconut milk or cream. cocnut milk is usually the coconut meat that has been juiced and filterd so its white. the coconut water is clear and sweet, real great for drinknig with lots of enzymes and minerals, but only from young coconuts. Take care, V Hiya V, I believe I am on the same list, as I've recently read about the usage of coconut water (I assume this is the same as coconut milk?) for cataracts. Because I know cataracts are caused by oxidation in the eye, and DMSO has such strong anti-oxidant properties, I am most interested in this. Of course, anything effective is high on my to research list, so coconut water will definitely be considered, as will this Miracle 11. This is the first I've heard of it. Thanks! -Raine V wrote: Hi Raine, I heard Miracle 11 neutralizer will do it you just put the drops in the eyes. alos one guy on another list fixed his with coconut water. Take care, V -- -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSCoconut Water (was: CSCataracts Cured)
Very helpful! So I would need to get actual young coconuts... Good to know. How does one know the age of a coconut in the grocery store? Are they generally picked early, as are most other fruits/veggies? Thank you (again)! -Raine V wrote: Hi Raine, The coconut water is the actula water out of young coconuts. Its different than coconut milk or cream. cocnut milk is usually the coconut meat that has been juiced and filterd so its white. the coconut water is clear and sweet, real great for drinknig with lots of enzymes and minerals, but only from young coconuts. Take care, V Hiya V, I believe I am on the same list, as I've recently read about the usage of coconut water (I assume this is the same as coconut milk?) for cataracts. Because I know cataracts are caused by oxidation in the eye, and DMSO has such strong anti-oxidant properties, I am most interested in this. Of course, anything effective is high on my to research list, so coconut water will definitely be considered, as will this Miracle 11. This is the first I've heard of it. Thanks! -Raine
Re: CSCoconut Water (was: CSCataracts Cured)
Hi Raine, They look very different that the regular coconuts. they are usually white and look like a cylynder with a cone on top, as they have part of the husk on them still nad they are trimmed to look like that. the meat is real yummy and is eaten with a spoon or you can blend it into the water nad make a nice smoothie http://www.youngcoconuts.com/ Take care, V Very helpful! So I would need to get actual young coconuts... Good to know. How does one know the age of a coconut in the grocery store? Are they generally picked early, as are most other fruits/veggies? Thank you (again)! -Raine V wrote: Hi Raine, The coconut water is the actula water out of young coconuts. Its different than coconut milk or cream. cocnut milk is usually the coconut meat that has been juiced and filterd so its white. the coconut water is clear and sweet, real great for drinknig with lots of enzymes and minerals, but only from young coconuts. Take care, V Hiya V, I believe I am on the same list, as I've recently read about the usage of coconut water (I assume this is the same as coconut milk?) for cataracts. Because I know cataracts are caused by oxidation in the eye, and DMSO has such strong anti-oxidant properties, I am most interested in this. Of course, anything effective is high on my to research list, so coconut water will definitely be considered, as will this Miracle 11. This is the first I've heard of it. Thanks! -Raine -- -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSPink eye
Actually, Laurie, pink eye was one of the first things I tried CS on, with convincing success. My (at the time) 8 yr. old daughter had it, and a few drops before bedtime was all it took for her to be fine by morning. I was still using more primative production techniques back then, so the results may differ one way or another from what you'll get, but I don't expect you'll have much trouble. Let us know, please? Be well, Mike D. Hi all, I think I have pink eye in one of my eyes. Can I using an eye cup rinse it with CS several times a day to get rid of it? Any body out there heard of or done this before? Thanks, Laurie [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSUK Pharma failure
I would love to read the report of the UK Parliament, but the link returns a site not found error message. Try, http://bolenreport.com/ About 1/4 down, on the right, click on the blue letters that say, UK Parliament SMASHES Big Pharma... __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRe[2]: CSCataracts Cured
In a message dated 4/14/2005 3:23:44 AM Central Standard Time, zon...@expo-net.org writes: Miracle 11 neutralizer What is this product? Where does one get it? Does it sting the eye? My Mom's dog is blinded by cataracts -- also, my sister's. I would LOVE to know about something that will help. MA
RE: CSUK Pharma failure
FunnyI accessed the site yesterday and viewed the file using Acrobat reader 5. I would try it again from work but I donot have it here. Ernie From: Terry Chamberlin tcj...@yahoo.ca Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSUK Pharma failure Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 04:55:56 -0700 (PDT) I would love to read the report of the UK Parliament, but the link returns a site not found error message. Try, http://bolenreport.com/ About 1/4 down, on the right, click on the blue letters that say, UK Parliament SMASHES Big Pharma... __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSUK Pharma failure
Working fine for me -- 8:30 AM easter time Thursday Judy Down Maine . -Original Message- From: epa...@sympatico.ca [mailto:epa...@sympatico.ca] Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 8:22 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSUK Pharma failure FunnyI accessed the site yesterday and viewed the file using Acrobat reader 5. I would try it again from work but I donot have it here. Ernie From: Terry Chamberlin tcj...@yahoo.ca Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSUK Pharma failure Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 04:55:56 -0700 (PDT) I would love to read the report of the UK Parliament, but the link returns a site not found error message. Try, http://bolenreport.com/ About 1/4 down, on the right, click on the blue letters that say, UK Parliament SMASHES Big Pharma... __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.7 - Release Date: 04/12/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.10 - Release Date: 04/14/2005
Re: CSUK Pharma failure
I saw on the news tonight that Chinese groups have waged some cyber attacks on Japanese servers.This may be cause of some problems here. Thanks for the information. JBB On Thursday, Apr 14, 2005, at 21:27 Asia/Tokyo, Judydownmaine wrote: Working fine for me -- 8:30 AM easter time Thursday Judy Down Maine . -Original Message- From: epa...@sympatico.ca [mailto:epa...@sympatico.ca] Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 8:22 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSUK Pharma failure FunnyI accessed the site yesterday and viewed the file using Acrobat reader 5. I would try it again from work but I donot have it here. Ernie From: Terry Chamberlin tcj...@yahoo.ca Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSUK Pharma failure Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 04:55:56 -0700 (PDT) I would love to read the report of the UK Parliament, but the link returns a site not found error message. Try, http://bolenreport.com/ About 1/4 down, on the right, click on the blue letters that say, UK Parliament SMASHES Big Pharma... __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.7 - Release Date: 04/12/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.10 - Release Date: 04/14/2005
CSBogus Study - 'Particulate vs. Ionic Silver'
I asked Mike for permission to post the following information... As readers may recall (how could you forget) there was a recent discussion on the list regarding the Natural Immunogenic study that claims to prove that only ionic silver can kill pathogens. Because we suspected there was something wrong with the design of the test protocol we had a professional review performed by EMSL scientists. The full text of the review is on the silver colloids web site here: http://www.silver-colloids.com/Pubs/bad-studiy.html Basically, the EMSL reviewer concluded that the study was bogus for several reasons which are explained. Frank Key www.ColloidalScienceLab.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSPink eye
Hi all, I think I have pink eye in one of my eyes. Can I using an eye cup rinse it with CS several times a day to get rid of it? Any body out there heard of or done this before? Thanks, Laurie www.livingnow.net/bartlett http://www.youravon.com/lbartlett
CS
Scientists Call on EPA to Reassess Health Risk of Widespread Chemical Controversy over the human health impacts of low doses of endocrine disrupting chemicals escalated to a new level yesterday with publication of an analysis in Environmental Health Perspectives. In a follow-up teleconference with journalists, Drs. Fred vom Saal and George Lucier called on the Environmental Protection Agency to conduct a new risk assessment of the ubiquitous chemical Bisphenol-A (BPA). The new report, co-authored by Dr. vom Saal, a neurobiologist at the University of Missouri, and Claude Hughes, a biologist at East Carolina University, evaluated 115 scientific studies of the health impacts of BPA, a chemical used in most plastic containers, food and beverage cans, dental sealants, plastic baby toys and bottles, and other consumer products. BPA leaches from these containers and into the food and drink they contain. Water used in bathing and drinking is another source of exposure. Large quantities of BPA leach into the soil under landfills, and hence into the water supply. The authors found that 94 of the studies showed harmful effects from BPA in laboratory animals. They further found that of the 21 studies finding no health effects, 11 were funded by industry. The new study contrasts with a study completed in 2002 (but released in 2004) by the Harvard Center for Risk Analysis, which concluded that the evidence for low-dose effects is very weak. [1] The Center's study was funded by the American Plastics Council. The debate over BPA has become so intense that it has reached the California state legislature, which is considering a ban on its use in all products for children age three and under. BPA is so widespread that it has been found in almost every American, and, for that matter, most people in developed countries around the globe. The critical health issue, said vom Saal, is that the level in humans is consistent with the level in animal studies that find BPA causing harm. Dr. Lucier, former director of the National Toxicology Program at the National Institute of Environmental Health Sciences, added that findings in rats and mice were extremely predictive for determining health effects in humans. Studies have found that BPA mimics the female sex hormone estrogen, and can interfere with such body processes as reproductive and brain functions. Babies and infants are especially at risk since they are irreversibly damaged by BPA. According to vom Saal, impacts can range from hyperactivity to increased aggressiveness, learning disabilities, and altered sex behavior as adults. BPA also decreases the male sex hormone testosterone. BPA, says vom Saal, is an extremely potent sex hormone-like drug. Pointing out that regulatory responsbility for BPA is the purview of many federal agencies--EPA, the Food and Drug Administration, Consumer Product Safety Commission and the Occupational Safety and Health Administration, among others--Drs. Lucier and vom Saal called for a new risk assessment coordinated among all the involved agencies. ### NOTE: Extensive background materials on the BPA issue are available at EMS.org.
Re: CSHope springs
Click on refresh when that happens and often you can then get the page. Kallie Miller www.4optimallife.com Magnetic mattress pads, Water Ionizer/Alkalizers Rebounders, Zappers, Mental Imagery Procedures, EFT - Original Message - From: Jonathan B. Britten jbrit...@cc.nakamura-u.ac.jp To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 3:02 AM Subject: Re: CSHope springs I would love to read the report of the UK Parliament, but the link returns a site not found error message. Alas. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSPink eye
Thank you Mike. I actually did start using it last night and some this morning. I thought it could be used for this. I will keep you updated. Thanks again, Laurie - Original Message - From: M. G. Devour mdev...@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 7:55 AM Subject: Re: CSPink eye Actually, Laurie, pink eye was one of the first things I tried CS on, with convincing success. My (at the time) 8 yr. old daughter had it, and a few drops before bedtime was all it took for her to be fine by morning. I was still using more primative production techniques back then, so the results may differ one way or another from what you'll get, but I don't expect you'll have much trouble. Let us know, please? Be well, Mike D. Hi all, I think I have pink eye in one of my eyes. Can I using an eye cup rinse it with CS several times a day to get rid of it? Any body out there heard of or done this before? Thanks, Laurie [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSUK Pharma failure
CSUK Pharma failure From: Terry Chamberlin Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 04:59:54 http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m79588.html Hi Terry, Did you miss my post on 12 April regarding your transformer supply? I copy it below: Re: CSAC to DC From: Mike Monett Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 20:38:38 http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m79529.html CSAC to DC From: Terry Chamberlin Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 18:18:08 http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m79527.html Sol, Yes, I use an AC to DC component setup. Terry Terry, you mentioned using 600 Volts. Do you have a specially wound transformer, or do you use a voltage quadrupler with a 1:1 isolation transformer? And how do you get CSA approval? Mike Monett -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSphantom pains and their remolval
Edgar Cayce recommended massaging the body with a mixture of Olive Oil, Castor Oil, and Peanut Oil starting from the extremities and going towards the heart. The massage should be done after a warm/hot bath. About once a week... Re: CSphantom pains and their remolval Marshalee wrote: Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 13:02:16 Dear Faith, Since I had the blasted Lyme, the feeling in my feet has been terrible. Paresthesia, it is called. It is not neuropathy, as I`m not diabetic, and when I had a nerve conduction test run, where they stuck needles in my legs (ouchy!), it was normal. But rubbing my feet, which once felt great, now is not, as I have patchwork sensations. Feels positively weird when my Pug licks my foot, as I can always feel the pressure, but in some areas I sense no warmth or wetness, but I can feel them in others right next to the numb ones. It is horrible to accidently step on something, a sunflower seed shell from the birds for example, as the pain sensations are hyper. Also, my feet and ankles swell easily and turn purple, like when I`m typing on this thing for example, or even when I sleep.( I wake up at night and have to go to the bathroom, not to potty, just for someplace to go to get my feet working again!) SOOO annoying! I was told my blood flow is normal, but it is the lymph that is so backed up. I hope swimming daily will help, once I have my Trust to pay for the pool membership. I don`t know if Refexology can help this. I hope so, willing to give it a try! Any further suggestions? Marshalee -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSBogus Study - 'Particulate vs. Ionic Silver'
What is meant by this sentence? In this experiment, the final working concentration of 1.8 ppm is very close to the upper limit of antibacterial activity. Since when does silver have an upper limit of antibacterial activity? Marshall I asked Mike for permission to post the following information... As readers may recall (how could you forget) there was a recent discussion on the list regarding the Natural Immunogenic study that claims to prove that only ionic silver can kill pathogens. Because we suspected there was something wrong with the design of the test protocol we had a professional review performed by EMSL scientists. The full text of the review is on the silver colloids web site here: http://www.silver-colloids.com/Pubs/bad-studiy.html Basically, the EMSL reviewer concluded that the study was bogus for several reasons which are explained. Frank Key www.ColloidalScienceLab.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe CS: cataracts
My DH had cataract operations[both eyes] two years ago at age 77, and now she has been able to put away four [4] sets of glasses which she had to use in the past. She has had absolutely no problems at any time since. HaroldNo virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.8 - Release Date: 4/13/2005
CSEnhancement of H202 to EIS and Update to Theory
Hi everyone. There have been so many fascinating posts recently my head is spinning. I hope I can interpret enough of it correctly to be able to ask intelligent questions. Just ignore me if not. No luck with the archives with all of this. Thank you in advance for taking time to give any response. Here goes: 1. When a batch of EIS turns up pink, brown, or appears somehow contaminated or cloudy, I've been told to play it safe and throw it away. But,instead of throwing it out, can't I just add some h202 to clear the color (which it always does) and then use it/consume it without worry? 2. Once the h202 is added, if it isn't consumed within a certain time, can anyone estimate how long it will be before it becomes ineffective or less effective, if ever? I think I remember someone (Ode? Marshall?) stating that h202 eventually turns silver ions or particles into silver oxide (please correct me if that's wrong). Isn't silver oxide still effective as a germicide? If silver oxide is less effective than ions and particles, then, according to Marshall's experiment, can't we just add more h202 before using it to revert it back? (There's smoke coming out of my ears now.) 3. (And I've wondered about this one for some time.) Does anyone know for sure if it is safe to add and consume the regular store bought h202, rather than the food grade type? There are rumors (I've put this question to the oral peroxide and hydrogen peroxide lists before) that consuming the drug store variety is dangerous because it supposedly has more chemicals and stabilizers in it. But, isn't it the same across the board? It seems to me they would list that on the label but they don't. All mine says is 3% hydrogen peroxide and Purified Water. Marshall recently posted that most h202 has acetanilide, or acetic acid amid. The MSDS on acetanilide says it is incompatible with strong oxidizers. Adding a stabilizer, as I have read, prevents the h202 from reacting to whatever it's contained in, and preserves its oxygen content. But once the h202 comes into contact with a metal like silver, or the catalase inside our bodies, won't the subsequent release of oxygen at that point immediately neutralize, obliterate or overcome the stabilizer? With that in mind, can I get a second opinion on the following excerpt taken from a report by the World Health Organization? Because it seems to me that could be what it indicates (i.e. ...the excess is destroyed..). http://www.inchem.org/documents/jecfa/jecmono/40abcj11.htm When hydrogen peroxide is used as an agent to reduce the number of bacteria in dairy products or other foodstuffs, the excess is destroyed. Toxicological considerations, therefore, apply only to the possible interference with the nutritional value of treated foodstuffs or the formation of toxic substances, but notto residual hydrogen peroxide. It is well known that small amounts of hydrogen peroxide given orally produce notoxicological effects, because of the rapid decomposition by the catalase of the intestinal cells. Sorry for such a long post, but I've been saving up! Thanks for being there. Jodi Subject: Re: CSUpdate to Theory Date: 4/4/2005, 6:16 PM From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com (Snipped) Put some silver wire into a glass with just enough H2O2 to cover it. Leave a couple of days. Observe the silver oxide on the silver wire, and as the water evaporates, the silver oxide precipitate on the bottom of the glass. Pour a small amount of water into the glass and observe that this does not dissolve immediately. Then pour out the water, and pour in H2O2 and observe that the precipitate disappears immediately. Check the new solution with a laser and verify that it has a weak tyndall, meaning that the silver oxide has become silver particles. This is a very easy experiment to do. I have done this experiment twice with identical results both times. Marshall James McCourt, Ph.D. wrote: No. Silver is an exothermic catalyst to H2O2. 2(H2O2)+Ag = 2(H2O)+O2+Ag+Heat - Original Message - From: Ode Coyote odecoy...@alltel.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, April 02, 2005 2:57 AM Subject: Re: CSUpdate to Theory Enhancement of H2O2 for EIS. 2. H2O2 will react with large silver particles, producing silver oxide. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSSpecial Needs Trusts
Thanks Marshalee -- I'll check it out. MA
Re: CSphantom pains and their remolval - get lymph moving
On below message I would like to react: That IS a lot of money, and the investment is avoidable. The lymph system is set in the feet as well: Press gently between the toes (facing the nails) until ye find a faint sensation of pain (the more severe your state, the angrier the pain .. all possible to set back in balance). Then press gently for three seconds, stop and press again for three seconds. Do this three times. NEVER go beyond the pain, but ye should feel the pain, to get the reaction of repair going. So there are four spaces between the toes on each foot. Then: On both sides of the ankle in front of the bone there are areas, on which you apply the same pressure (one after the other). Do three seconds, then rest and do three seconds again. Repeat this three times. Give the body a one day's rest, and then apply the same method. You'll be stunned at the results, and it is costless, moreover it reveals to you what self-repair the body is capable of. Love to serve, love you all, Faith (licensed Reflexologist) From: starshar stars...@comcast.net Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSphantom pains and their remolval Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 00:08:43 -0400 Marshalee, There are two amazingly effective devices that will absolutely get the lymph moving, and according to about a zillion reports, cure all kinds of ailments. They are a rebounder and/or a Chi Machine. A quality rebounder would cost in the neighborhood of $200, the junk at Walmart et al should not be considered. A Chi Machine runs in excess of $400. Yes, I just heard you yell ouch! My reaction also. I have the rebounder which I got about 15 years ago and it's worth every cent. If it fell apart on me I would beg, borrow, or steal to get another. I had a cheap Chi Machine which died a few days after the warranty expired, so I'm getting along without it, but I sure did like what it did for me. If you're interested, I'd suggest a google search. You will get 100s of hits for either device. May you get well! Sharon From: Marshalee mama...@netzero.net Dear Faith, Since I had the blasted Lyme, the feeling in my feet has been terrible. Paresthesia, it is called. It is not neuropathy, as I`m not diabetic, and when I had a nerve conduction test run, where they stuck needles in my legs (ouchy!), it was normal. But rubbing my feet, which once felt great, now is not, as I have patchwork sensations. Feels positively weird when my Pug licks my foot, as I can always feel the pressure, but in some areas I sense no warmth or wetness, but I can feel them in others right next to the numb ones. It is horrible to accidently step on something, a sunflower seed shell from the birds for example, as the pain sensations are hyper. Also, my feet and ankles swell easily and turn purple, like when I`m typing on this thing for example, or even when I sleep.( I wake up at night and have to go to the bathroom, not to potty, just for someplace to go to get my feet working again!) SOOO annoying! I was told my blood flow is normal, but it is the lymph that is so backed up. I hope swimming daily will help, once I have my Trust to pay for the pool membership. I don`t know if Refexology can help this. I hope so, willing to give it a try! Any further suggestions? -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/
CSEdgar Cayce's Remedies
Dan Nave wrote: Edgar Cayce recommended massaging the body with a mixture of Olive Oil, Castor Oil, Especially on Castor Oil (palma Cristi or Ricinus) I would like to comment from our own practise, from our own experience: It is one of these 'miracle' treatments which for a long time doctors had no answer for. May I recall a few instances: Broken bones are healed faster by the application of these packs (I have the modus, the houtudu). Pains in neck and back and muscular pains are healed within three cycles of the Edgar Caye's method. Now, with the ARE institution by the late Mr. Cayce and his family, medics are doing these treatments, and investigations are done very seriously. Books and information can be obtained by memberschip of ARE. [I have NO interests there] Love to serve, Love you all,Faith _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe[2]: CSRe[2]: CSCataracts Cured
Hi Marmar845, I put it in my eyes a few times and it did not sting, seemed quite comfortable. Do search on Miracle II on google there are a lot fo people that sell it. http://miracle2.net/index.asp Take care, V In a message dated 4/14/2005 3:23:44 AM Central Standard Time, zon...@expo-net.org writes: Miracle 11 neutralizer What is this product? Where does one get it? Does it sting the eye? My Mom's dog is blinded by cataracts -- also, my sister's. I would LOVE to know about something that will help. MA -- -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSphantom pains and their remolval - get lymph moving
Faith wrote: They are a rebounder and/or a Chi Machine. A quality rebounder would cost in the neighborhood of $200, the junk at Walmart et al should not be considered. .I have the rebounder which I got about 15 years ago and it's worth every cent. If it fell apart on me I would beg, borrow, or steal to get another. I agree with Faith. My son has my original 20 year old rebounder now converted to soft-bounce and I have one of the new soft bounce models. Needak sells a conversion kit. If you like the original, you'll die for the soft bounce--it is ecstasy. Kallie Miller www.4optimallife.com Magnetic mattress pads, Water Ionizer/Alkalizers Rebounders, Zappers, Mental Imagery Procedures, EFT -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe: silver-digest Eye Wash Cups
Why such a difficult time finding eye wash cups? I see them all the time in our drugstores here in AL. If they have them, then they are obviously orderable . Just ask your pharmacist to order some. deb ***Make your words soft and sweet; you just may have to eat them someday. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSEye Cups - Eyewash
***Make your words soft and sweet; you just may have to eat them someday. http://tmarco.com/ewc.htm
CSFirst Aid Supply, Eyewash, Eyewash Kit, Eyewash station, Portable Eyewash, Laboratory Eyewash, Drench Showers, Gravity Fed Eye Wash, OSHA Eyewash Regulations
Very inexpensive eye wash cups here. deb ***Make your words soft and sweet; you just may have to eat them someday. http://www.firstaidandsafetyonline.com/showproduct~catid~4.asp
Re: CSphantom pains and their remolval
Sorry, but I can`t give credit to that charlatan. I read his stuff long ago, did you ever notice how nonsensical it often is? Marshalee Edgar Cayce recommended massaging the body with a mixture of Olive Oil, Castor Oil, and Peanut Oil starting from the extremities and going towards the heart. The massage should be done after a warm/hot bath. About once a week... -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CScs:vitaminC per LEF
http://www.lef.org/news/LefDailyNews.htm?NewsID=2073Section=VITAMINSsou rce=DHB100key=Body+ContinueReading ...interesting, about vitamin C From LEF davido -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CScs:vitaminC per LEF
well, it seems from my reading that vitamin c changes it's biological properties as you go up towads 20 grams. some claim it becomes a pro-oxidant. this status may give it a peculiar ability to kill viruses. On Thursday, April 14, 2005, at 08:30 PM, David S Osborne wrote: http://www.lef.org/news/LefDailyNews.htm?NewsID=2073Section=VITAMINSsou rce=DHB100key=Body+ContinueReading ...interesting, about vitamin C From LEF davido -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSCataracts?
Sasha wrote: Faith, Sasha here again. I have these visible lenses on my eyeballs. I look at them closely and they seem kind of film like. I am seriously wondering whether or not this is cataracts? It could be, Sash. I was looking (13 % left in right eye) as if through clouds for two years. Yet, it takes an optalmologist with good apparatus to measure the amount of Cataracts in your eyes .. And: Seems to me that in an early stage IT IS CURABLE better than in a case like mine (I was operated, and see much better now) Love Faith _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSCataracts
My dear dog has a ripe cataract and I'm desperately trying to find a way to regain her sight. Pl My dog was also one eyed, cataract covered her pupil. I bought regular linseed oil a gallon at Home Base (a hardware store) in their paint section and filled a 1 ounce bottle with an eye dropper. Every day she got one drop in her eye for at least two months. Her eyelids became crusty and I just stopped treating her. I was astonished to see the cataract shrank to a pin point and after several more weeks totally was gone. After seeing this I also used linseed oil (Flaxseed oil) in my eyes. DR said I had a bunch of small cataracts growing in both eyes. I had a yearly check up about 5 weeks later and DR said NO CATARACTS. Since then about 5 years ago the cataracts are coming back in my eyes, I now make my own CS so I use CS + 10% DMSO in my eye wash cup, cataracts are still there but not growing. When I treated my dog I did not even refrigerate the linseed oil. I found that it goes rancid later so when I treated myself I kept the bottle refrigerated. I guess that our garage was cold enough when I treated my dog to act like a refrigerator. Brickey
CSthis life, next life and good living
Kallie Miller wrote: Maybe in my next lifetime taking into account my learnings in this life, I will eat better and take better care of my body than this lifetime Thanks Kallie. I was looking through these greyish clouds for two years, having lost 87 % in my right eye. Now operated, I share your feelings. Yet you'd need aa able optalmologist with good apparatus to measure the loss of light and the damage done. In your case alternatives may be possible, if the operation scares you. Although: I (56 now) have lived as a good boy where food and essential energy ware concerned. So the pollution in my (and yours and theirs) eyes was caused by that ape who smoked beside me, and did not care about my lungs, and the petrol mills up wind, and all those cars around us. See? It is our actual way of life. AND: Let us us NOT throw away the good doctors, like my eye-surgeon (and yours, as you write). Without them we would be farther off or not? And .. even in a world like our actual one we can strive to live healthy lifes, eat natural, and care for those around and about us. That will make it all that much better. Love Faith _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSReflexology
Marshalee wrote: I don`t know if Refexology can help this. I hope so, willing to give it a try! Any further suggestions? Marshalee I'd suggest you give it a try. Do you know any (LICENSED!) Reflexologist in your area? I did without license for fiteen years, first on myself and then on others, and had good results. Now, more advanced, and protected by my license I see miracle after miracle. If your feet are too sensitive, you can have your hands treated. I can send you scans of the maps of hand and feet, so that you'd know where to work, to get the lymph-flow going, and relieve the pains. We work with five treatments initially, and that works well. Love Faith _ FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar - get it now! http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/ -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSphantom pains and their remolval - get lymph moving
Scuze mee, Kalli my dear .. I did not write this. However I do agree with f.e. Marshalee that one can work far more home-economically by making one's own device, with a few batteries, wires and crocodile beaks, a glass and bits of pure water. Love Faith From: kallie miller 4optimall...@rogers.com Reply-To: kallie miller 4optimall...@rogers.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSphantom pains and their remolval - get lymph moving Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 16:18:12 -0400 Faith wrote: They are a rebounder and/or a Chi Machine. A quality rebounder would cost in the neighborhood of $200, the junk at Walmart et al should not be considered. .I have the rebounder which I got about 15 years ago and it's worth every cent. If it fell apart on me I would beg, borrow, or steal to get another. I agree with Faith. My son has my original 20 year old rebounder now converted to soft-bounce and I have one of the new soft bounce models. Needak sells a conversion kit. If you like the original, you'll die for the soft bounce--it is ecstasy. Kallie Miller www.4optimallife.com Magnetic mattress pads, Water Ionizer/Alkalizers Rebounders, Zappers, Mental Imagery Procedures, EFT -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com _ FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar - get it now! http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/
Re: CSphantom pains and their remolval
Can't agree with you. Thousands of people were healed by Cayce's advices, and we have seen and experienced the results with The Edgar Cayce's oil-pack treatments. It does not seem right to call the Sleeping Prophet a charlatan. Love Faith From: Marshalee mama...@netzero.net Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSphantom pains and their remolval Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 18:04:23 -0600 Sorry, but I can`t give credit to that charlatan. I read his stuff long ago, did you ever notice how nonsensical it often is? Marshalee Edgar Cayce recommended massaging the body with a mixture of Olive Oil, Castor Oil, and Peanut Oil starting from the extremities and going towards the heart. The massage should be done after a warm/hot bath. About once a week... -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/
RE: CSCataracts
Try SERIOUSLY to drop dog's own urine in the eye. See the myracle. Love Faith From: brick...@aol.com Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: rainelov...@sbcglobal.net, silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSCataracts Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 01:15:02 EDT My dear dog has a ripe cataract and I'm desperately trying to find a way to regain her sight. Pl My dog was also one eyed, cataract covered her pupil. I bought regular linseed oil a gallon at Home Base (a hardware store) in their paint section and filled a 1 ounce bottle with an eye dropper. Every day she got one drop in her eye for at least two months. Her eyelids became crusty and I just stopped treating her. I was astonished to see the cataract shrank to a pin point and after several more weeks totally was gone. After seeing this I also used linseed oil (Flaxseed oil) in my eyes. DR said I had a bunch of small cataracts growing in both eyes. I had a yearly check up about 5 weeks later and DR said NO CATARACTS. Since then about 5 years ago the cataracts are coming back in my eyes, I now make my own CS so I use CS + 10% DMSO in my eye wash cup, cataracts are still there but not growing. When I treated my dog I did not even refrigerate the linseed oil. I found that it goes rancid later so when I treated myself I kept the bottle refrigerated. I guess that our garage was cold enough when I treated my dog to act like a refrigerator. Brickey _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
