Re: CSDMSO

[Ode Coyote]

Sounds like you proved that DMSO does what it's supposed to..[organic 
solvent and carrier] ..but YOU ain't supposed to inject Ajax and Goo 
Gone into your blood stream.



Ode



Subject: CSDMSO


I have been using DMSO for over a year now with wonderful results.The 
problem is I had some DMSO residue on my hand.Without thinking that a 
small amount would cause any problems.I started to do some house cleaning 
with Ajax and I used some Goo gone to remove a label off a nice jar I 
wanted to keep.Anyway the next day my hand was all dried out and hurt like 
nerve damage.So I have tried aloe and what not to get the skin back to 
normal which has been very slow to heal process.But anyway the real 
problem now is my finger tips are going numb late at night.And it is very 
hard to get the circulation back in my fingers.My girl friend massages my 
for arms for me now because the pain has migrated up my for arms to my 
joint in my elbow. There she says she feels a spider web of goo like there 
is were the crap is conjugating. Is this stuff that was uptaked into my 
body trying to move to my liver for body elimination?Has anyone had any 
bad experience with DMSO. I'm

upset with it because I have a such great result with it up to now. Jason




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CSauto immune hepatitis

[Cindy]

Hi group, I rarely post but read from this group all the time.  I'm not sure if 
this question is off topic, so if it is I apologize.  My sister has recently 
been told she has a fatty liver and upon further blood test showed her liver 
test (alt) was 3 times what it should be and more blood work states she has 
auto immune hepatitis.  She is NOT a drinking or drug user. She is having a 
biopsy done on Thursday.Now myself and my other sister have been told we 
also have a fatty liver but our blood test are normal.  Does anyone here have 
any input as to what may help a fatty liver?  All 3 of us are close to 50 and 
sure we could drop some weight, my Dr. told me not to worry.  Non of us over 
abuse Tylenol or Motrin but we are on a natural hormone  Bio identical.

Thanks
Cindy

Re: CSHPV Tonsil Cancer

[Dorothy Fitzpatrick]

Also Low Dose Naltrexone.  dee

On 18 Jan 2010, at 19:54, John E. Stevens wrote:

 Add a minimum of 10 - 15 grams of Vit C daily to the formula below.  Vitamin 
 D3, and cod liver oil for inflammation reduction.  Lots of natural juicing 
 with beets, celery, and carrots, too.  Lots of raw organic veggies and fruit, 
 too.  Hoxsey would recommend Laetrile, too.  Graviola may help here, too.  
 Gerson therapy is excellent - Juicing, coffee enemas.  I'd also use a Dr. 
 Hula Clark zapper, colloidal silver water - gargle and swallow 3 - 4 times 
 daily.  No chlorinated water...  I find Flor*Essence to be the best formula 
 of Essiac to reduce cancer, too.
 
 John
 
 On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 12:51 PM, Vigilius Haufniensis 
 thehatefuln...@comcast.net wrote:
 b17, essiac, electroherbalism, gerson, hoxsey, richard schulze.
  
  
  
  
 

Re: CSParvo virus in dogs

[Dorothy Fitzpatrick]

It is better to dribble small amounts of CS into the mouth at really regular 
intervals, and also to give a CS enema.  You need to get the CS right to where 
it will be able to contact the virus.  There is someone on this who saved baby 
pups doing this. dee

On 19 Jan 2010, at 00:28, Paul Bond wrote:

 I have a friend with a young rotweiler (16kg), who has Parvo virus and is in 
 a very bad way.  Currently she’s staying with the vet on IV to try to get 
 some liquid into her, but there’s a lot of blood coming out of her.  Do you 
 think there’s any chance that putting some silver in the IV might give her a 
 chance?  Right now they’re going all they can to make sure her kidneys don’t 
 pack up due to de-hydration and giving her antibiotics (for a virus?).  I 
 have MMS12 on hand but am nervous about using those on a dog as I have zero 
 experience of it with animals and don’t want to cause more discomfort.  I’m 
 hoping silver might be a painless way to reduce the viral load quickly so her 
 own immune system can get to work on things.
  
 This is a time sensitive request, so any suggestions much appreciated.
  
 Thank you
 Paul
 
 

Re: CSauto immune hepatitis

[John E. Stevens]

You may need a liver flush to flush the cholesterol out.

John

On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 8:37 AM, Cindy kees...@comcast.net wrote:

  *Hi group, I rarely post but read from this group all the time.  I'm not
 sure if this question is off topic, so if it is I apologize.  My sister has
 recently been told she has a fatty liver and upon further blood test showed
 her liver test (alt) was 3 times what it should be and more blood work
 states she has auto immune hepatitis.  She is NOT a drinking or drug user.
 She is having a biopsy done on Thursday.Now myself and my other sister
 have been told we also have a fatty liver but our blood test are normal.
 Does anyone here have any input as to what may help a fatty liver?  All 3 of
 us are close to 50 and sure we could drop some weight, my Dr. told me not to
 worry.  Non of us over abuse Tylenol or Motrin but we are on a natural
 hormone  Bio identical.*
 **
 *Thanks*
 *Cindy*
 **
 **

Re: CSHPV Tonsil Cancer

[Scotty]

Thank you all for your overwhelming support. I love this site! 

ScottyHave a great day!

 






  

Re: CSauto immune hepatitis

[sms]

Cindy, 
Google Dr. Sandra Cabot.  She would be a great source of information and
help for you and your sisters.
I think if you write or call her, she will help you.
The liver is one of her many wonderful areas of expertise.
Sasha 
 -
 
From: Cindy
Date: 01/19/10 05:37:51
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSauto immune hepatitis
 
Hi group, I rarely post but read from this group all the time.  I'm not sure
if this question is off topic, so if it is I apologize.  My sister has
recently been told she has a fatty liver and upon further blood test showed
her liver test (alt) was 3 times what it should be and more blood work
states she has auto immune hepatitis.  She is NOT a drinking or drug user.
She is having a biopsy done on Thursday.Now myself and my other sister
have been told we also have a fatty liver but our blood test are normal. 
Does anyone here have any input as to what may help a fatty liver?  All 3 of
us are close to 50 and sure we could drop some weight, my Dr. told me not to
worry.  Non of us over abuse Tylenol or Motrin but we are on a natural
hormone  Bio identical.
 
Thanks
Cindy
 
 
 

Re: CSHerniated disc / the power of magnets

[Dan Nave]

For getting younger and younger, I would recommend the Five Rites of
Rejuvenation also called the Five Tibetans.

They seem to work.

Also, try eating less, more raw foods and vegetables, less fat, meat, and
carbohydrates.

Dan

On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 12:40 PM, Renee gaiac...@gmail.com wrote:

Oh that IS pretty cool.  I would assume that the magnets would
 certainly give some healing benefit, so of course would expect people to
 feel better.  But live forever??  Lol  ummm, don't think so.

 But, if you start getting younger and younger--please do let us know.  I
 don't mind being proven wrong at all.  :-)

 Samala,
 Renee

  *---Original Message---*


 Wanna know the odd thing?  A girl gave me some Alex Chiu rings and I've
 found them to be awesome!  LOL.

Re: CSParvo virus in dogs

[Marshall Dudley]

Paul Bond wrote:


I have a friend with a young rotweiler (16kg), who has Parvo virus and 
is in a very bad way. Currently she’s staying with the vet on IV to 
try to get some liquid into her, but there’s a lot of blood coming out 
of her. Do you think there’s any chance that putting some silver in 
the IV might give her a chance?


I have heard of this ( or being given rectally) being done 6 or so 
times. In every case there was a complete recovery in a matter of hours. 
CS provides a very quick and sure cure to Parvo from the cases I have 
heard of.


Marshall


Right now they’re going all they can to make sure her kidneys don’t 
pack up due to de-hydration and giving her antibiotics (for a virus?). 
I have MMS12 on hand but am nervous about using those on a dog as I 
have zero experience of it with animals and don’t want to cause more 
discomfort. I’m hoping silver might be a painless way to reduce the 
viral load quickly so her own immune system can get to work on things.


This is a time sensitive request, so any suggestions much appreciated.

Thank you

Paul



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CSone for brooks

[polo]

Hopefully Brooks will have time to consider and comment on this.

I have long been interested in protocols that will efficiently attack 
biofilm infections. It seems that inhaled (nebulized) liposomal medications are 
very effective in penetrating very difficult to treat lung biofilms. Some 
recent studies have suggested that liposomal antibiotics are superb treatments. 
Here is one:

http://jac.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/content/full/61/4/859


The above study used a compressor type of nebulizer (nebulizer PARI LC 
Star).   Anyway, I would like to try liposomal colloidal silver in a nebulizer 
for biofilm lung infections, particularly in racehorses. Normally we use 
ultrasonic nebulizers as opposed to the older compressor type nebulizers as was 
used in the above study. Ultrasound nebulizers vaporize the medication into 
super small droplets that can be pushed into the lung via an air jet. The older 
compressor type uses a small air compressor to vaporize the inhaled medication 
producing larger medication particles to be breathed in. Naturally, the 
ultrasound nebulizer technology produces small droplet size which is more 
conducive to lung inhalation efficacy. 

What I would like to know, do you see any problems with producing colloidal 
silver liposomes using your home made protocol and (2) would an ultrasonic 
nebulizer be detrimental to the liposomal structure? Would an older compressor 
type nebulizer as used in the study be better in putting liposomes into 
solution for inhalation purposes or would the newer utrasonic nebulizers not 
over-whelming affect liposomal structure upon vaporzation or might it even be 
beneficial?

As a side note, I want to add that heavy metals seem particularly effective 
against biofilms of which I would venture a guess that colloidal silver would 
be a superb medication, if one could only get it to be absorbed by the biofilm. 
Liposomal technology may be the key!

doug

Re: CSbronchitis ?

[martsmail53]

How do you know this
 
 
In a message dated 1/13/2010 12:47:42 A.M. Central Standard Time,  
sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com writes:

It is safe and will keep the tank water clean, but the silver does 
not  pass into the steam but is left behind in the  tank.

sol


Last night I put a simple $20 steam  humidifier in his room and added 
about 8 oz of colloidal silver to the  water.  He seems much better 
this morning.  I was just  wondering if this is safeto add 
colloidal silver to tap water in a  steamer?


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Re: CSbronchitis ?

[sol]

Because the silver will distill out. Steam humidifiers are similar to 
steam distillers, except with no provision to collect the distilled 
steam and condense it back into water. Silver is left behind, just as 
are other ions and particles. This is just basic science of 
distilling, some volatiles will transfer in the steam, but silver is 
not a volatile, neither are salts. This is why scale builds up in 
such humidifiers--it is the stuff that is left behind that is not 
contained in the steam.
As to keeping the water free of bacteria, silver is used for that 
many places world wide. Dentist offices, in the space shuttles I'm 
told, and so forth.

sol

At 09:18 AM 1/19/2010, you wrote:

How do you know this

In a message dated 1/13/2010 12:47:42 A.M. Central Standard Time, 
sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com writes:

  It is safe and will keep the tank water clean, but the silver does
not pass into the steam but is left behind in the tank.

sol


Last night I put a simple $20 steam humidifier in his room and added
about 8 oz of colloidal silver to the water.  He seems much better
this morning.  I was just wondering if this is safeto add
colloidal silver to tap water in a steamer?




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Re: CSbronchitis ?

[John E. Stevens]

Better to use a cold air humidifier with CSW.

John

On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 12:46 PM, sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com wrote:

 Because the silver will distill out. Steam humidifiers are similar to steam
 distillers, except with no provision to collect the distilled steam and
 condense it back into water. Silver is left behind, just as are other ions
 and particles. This is just basic science of distilling, some volatiles will
 transfer in the steam, but silver is not a volatile, neither are salts. This
 is why scale builds up in such humidifiers--it is the stuff that is left
 behind that is not contained in the steam.
 As to keeping the water free of bacteria, silver is used for that many
 places world wide. Dentist offices, in the space shuttles I'm told, and so
 forth.
 sol


 At 09:18 AM 1/19/2010, you wrote:

 How do you know this

 In a message dated 1/13/2010 12:47:42 A.M. Central Standard Time,
 sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com writes:
  It is safe and will keep the tank water clean, but the silver does
 not pass into the steam but is left behind in the tank.

 sol

 
 Last night I put a simple $20 steam humidifier in his room and added
 about 8 oz of colloidal silver to the water.  He seems much better
 this morning.  I was just wondering if this is safeto add
 colloidal silver to tap water in a steamer?



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Re: CSauto immune hepatitis

[Peter Converse]

Hi Cindy,

Try looking into Dr. Berkson's work on liver restoration and Hep-C.

hope this helps,

Peter
  - Original Message - 
  From: Cindy 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 8:37 AM
  Subject: CSauto immune hepatitis


  Hi group, I rarely post but read from this group all the time.  I'm not sure 
if this question is off topic, so if it is I apologize.  My sister has recently 
been told she has a fatty liver and upon further blood test showed her liver 
test (alt) was 3 times what it should be and more blood work states she has 
auto immune hepatitis.  She is NOT a drinking or drug user. She is having a 
biopsy done on Thursday.Now myself and my other sister have been told we 
also have a fatty liver but our blood test are normal.  Does anyone here have 
any input as to what may help a fatty liver?  All 3 of us are close to 50 and 
sure we could drop some weight, my Dr. told me not to worry.  Non of us over 
abuse Tylenol or Motrin but we are on a natural hormone  Bio identical.

  Thanks
  Cindy

RE: CSauto immune hepatitis

[Nenah Sylver]

[Cindy] Hi group, I rarely post but read from this group all the time.  I'm
not sure if this question is off topic, so if it is I apologize.  My sister
has recently been told she has a fatty liver and upon further blood test
showed her liver test (alt) was 3 times what it should be and more blood
work states she has auto immune hepatitis.

 



 

Datis Kharrazian has a new book out that has the word thyroid in the
title. However, his book is applicable to ALL autoimmune diseases and is
worth reading.

 

Nenah

 

Nenah Sylver, PhD

author: The Rife Handbook of Frequency Therapy (2009),

now available in HARDCOVER

 The Holistic Handbook of Sauna Therapy

 http://www.nenahsylver.com www.nenahsylver.com 

Re: CSFwd: Liposomal Encapsulation Techniques (LET)

[Alan Jones]

Jim, to make sodium ascorbate from ascorbic acid (AA) and baking soda (BS),
you should use a 2-to-1 ratio of AA to BA.  So 1.5T of AA would require
0.75T of BS.  What you are doing will result in 0.75T of BS remaining in the
solution, which is fine, I guess, but it doesn't seem what you are
intending.  (T == tablespoon)

Alan

On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 10:37 PM, Acmeair res00...@verizon.net wrote:




 Jan 18, 2010 08:28:54 PM, res00...@verizon.net wrote:

 just finished brewin up about the fifth batch of vita c, using the
 instructions of mr. brooks bradley. all batches, after #1, have been fully
 disolved and with no separation of the lecithin.  have been using the
 manual, hand shaking method, and get a finished product that looks like very
 rich goats milk with nothing settling out. it even tastes ok.

 i've been testing linus pauling's theory recipe, with vita c, l-proline,
 and l-lysine. the vita c is made up of 1 1/2 tbsp ascorbic acid and 1 1/2
 tbsp of sodium bicarbonate. (should be 28.5 grams of vita c). 5000 mg of
 lysine, and 4000 mg of proline. after studying a good report on the
 importance of vita d3, i now include 5000 iu of d3.

 now, all i need to do is convert these amounts to how much a tbsp of this
 liquid contains,...

 1 1/2 cups h2o = 12 oz. =340.2 grams = 22.7 tbsp 1 tbsp
 = 15 grams


  28.5 gr liposomal  vita c divided by 22.7 tbsp = 1.26 gm lipo vita c
  5000 mg lysine into 22.7 tbsp  =  220.3 mg lysine per tbsp
  4000 mg proline into 22.7 tbsp  = 176.2 mg proline per tbsp
  5000 iu vita d3 into 22.7 tbsp  = 220.3  iu vita d3 per tbsp

 my daily dose of liposomal vita c is 2 tbsp. vita c = 2.52  gm,  lysine
 =440.6 mg lysine,  352.4 mg proline, and 440.6 iu vita d3.
 i'm going to increase to 3 tbsp per dose, and see how the tolerance has
 increased..

 these numbers aren't high enough to justify the effort to make the
 liposomal vita c, except for this note that i picked up from a posting by
 mr. bradley,,,  5-6 gr LET vita c is more effective than 50 gr of vita c
 given intra venously. this would bring me close to the amount that linus
 pauling suggested for his theory. i now would like to find out if the other
 products, lysine, proline, vita d3  enjoy the same increase in effective
 strength after encapsulation as does the vita c.

 i would enjoy any criticism, commentary or change in analysis.
 thanks jim

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Re: CSFwd: Liposomal Encapsulation Techniques (LET)

[Alan Jones]

BTW, over on the Vitamin C Foundation forums I found some posts discussing
Lipo-C, and there was a copy of a letter from Livon Labs indicating that
100% of the vitamin C used in their Lipo-C product is sodium ascorbate (ie.
no ascorbic acid).  Livon Labs suggested that using AA was a bad idea
because the Lipo-C gets into your circulation very efficiently, and the AA
would raise the acidity of your blood, which could be a bad thing over time.

Alan

On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 12:37 PM, Alan Jones alanmjo...@gmail.com wrote:

 Jim, to make sodium ascorbate from ascorbic acid (AA) and baking soda (BS),
 you should use a 2-to-1 ratio of AA to BA.  So 1.5T of AA would require
 0.75T of BS.  What you are doing will result in 0.75T of BS remaining in the
 solution, which is fine, I guess, but it doesn't seem what you are
 intending.  (T == tablespoon)

 Alan


 On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 10:37 PM, Acmeair res00...@verizon.net wrote:




 Jan 18, 2010 08:28:54 PM, res00...@verizon.net wrote:

 just finished brewin up about the fifth batch of vita c, using the
 instructions of mr. brooks bradley. all batches, after #1, have been fully
 disolved and with no separation of the lecithin.  have been using the
 manual, hand shaking method, and get a finished product that looks like very
 rich goats milk with nothing settling out. it even tastes ok.

 i've been testing linus pauling's theory recipe, with vita c, l-proline,
 and l-lysine. the vita c is made up of 1 1/2 tbsp ascorbic acid and 1 1/2
 tbsp of sodium bicarbonate. (should be 28.5 grams of vita c). 5000 mg of
 lysine, and 4000 mg of proline. after studying a good report on the
 importance of vita d3, i now include 5000 iu of d3.

 now, all i need to do is convert these amounts to how much a tbsp of this
 liquid contains,...

 1 1/2 cups h2o = 12 oz. =340.2 grams = 22.7 tbsp 1
 tbsp = 15 grams


  28.5 gr liposomal  vita c divided by 22.7 tbsp = 1.26 gm lipo vita c
  5000 mg lysine into 22.7 tbsp  =  220.3 mg lysine per tbsp
  4000 mg proline into 22.7 tbsp  = 176.2 mg proline per tbsp
  5000 iu vita d3 into 22.7 tbsp  = 220.3  iu vita d3 per tbsp

 my daily dose of liposomal vita c is 2 tbsp. vita c = 2.52  gm,  lysine
 =440.6 mg lysine,  352.4 mg proline, and 440.6 iu vita d3.
 i'm going to increase to 3 tbsp per dose, and see how the tolerance has
 increased..

 these numbers aren't high enough to justify the effort to make the
 liposomal vita c, except for this note that i picked up from a posting by
 mr. bradley,,,  5-6 gr LET vita c is more effective than 50 gr of vita c
 given intra venously. this would bring me close to the amount that linus
 pauling suggested for his theory. i now would like to find out if the other
 products, lysine, proline, vita d3  enjoy the same increase in effective
 strength after encapsulation as does the vita c.

 i would enjoy any criticism, commentary or change in analysis.
 thanks jim

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Re: CSHPV Tonsil Cancer

[Dan Nave]

I cured our small dog of a tumor on it's leg using a Hulda Clark Zapper and
a fairly large dose of garlic, about 1 clove per day.  The vet seemed to
think it was cancer but we didn't do any testing.  Garlic for cancer was
often one of the things advocated by Richard Schulze.  We only did it for
about 2 weeks max.  Incidentally, Dr. Richard Schulze always recommended
using Castor oil packs on the affected part.  He often suggested using it
overnight without heat, but I would think that you could use it for a
shorter time with heat also.  This softens hardened tissues and gets the
circulation into those parts so the blood and lymph borne factors can do the
healing.

I'm not sure that I would do both the high dose garlic and the zapping at
the same time as I have heard some admonitions against it.  Don't have any
firm info about it one way or the other.

Dan

On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 1:54 PM, John E. Stevens 
jonellis.steven...@gmail.com wrote:

 Add a minimum of 10 - 15 grams of Vit C daily to the formula below.
 Vitamin D3, and cod liver oil for inflammation reduction.  Lots of natural
 juicing with beets, celery, and carrots, too.  Lots of raw organic veggies
 and fruit, too.  Hoxsey would recommend Laetrile, too.  Graviola may help
 here, too.  Gerson therapy is excellent - Juicing, coffee enemas.  I'd also
 use a Dr. Hula Clark zapper, colloidal silver water - gargle and swallow 3 -
 4 times daily.  No chlorinated water...  I find Flor*Essence to be the best
 formula of Essiac to reduce cancer, too.

 John


 On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 12:51 PM, Vigilius Haufniensis 
 thehatefuln...@comcast.net wrote:

  b17, essiac, electroherbalism, gerson, hoxsey, richard schulze.





 - Original Message -
 *From:* Leslie leslie1...@windstream.net
 *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
 *Sent:* Monday, January 18, 2010 8:54 AM
 *Subject:* Re: CSHPV Tonsil Cancer

 Just saw this and last night I was reading off IMVA site, the doctor in
 Brazil and he had some very interesting info. Send me your email and I'll
 forward to you. Leslie

 - Original Message -
 *From:* Scotty scottie592...@yahoo.com
 *To:* Silver List silver-list@eskimo.com
 *Sent:* Sunday, January 17, 2010 11:55 PM
 *Subject:* CSHPV Tonsil Cancer

   I have a good friend that found out last week he has stage four cancer
 in one of his tonsils that has spread to the surrounding lymph nodes. He is
 going to Stanford this week for 8 weeks of radiation and chemo. Is there
 anything else he can alternatively do? They have given him 2 to 6 months to
 live if this treatment doesn't work.
 *


 Scotty
 *

 *Have a great day!*

Re: CSone for brooks

[Dan Nave]

Oral bromelain was reported to be very effective in potentiating
antibiotics.  I think this is due to it's action in
penetrating/dissolving biofilms, or some similar action.

Dan

On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 9:47 AM, polo dah...@centurytel.net wrote:
 Hopefully Brooks will have time to consider and comment on this.

     I have long been interested in protocols that will efficiently attack
 biofilm infections. It seems that inhaled (nebulized) liposomal
 medications are very effective in penetrating very difficult to treat lung
 biofilms. Some recent studies have suggested that liposomal antibiotics are
 superb treatments. Here is one:

 http://jac.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/content/full/61/4/859


     The above study used a compressor type of nebulizer (nebulizer PARI LC
 Star).   Anyway, I would like to try liposomal colloidal silver in a
 nebulizer for biofilm lung infections, particularly in racehorses. Normally
 we use ultrasonic nebulizers as opposed to the older compressor type
 nebulizers as was used in the above study. Ultrasound nebulizers vaporize
 the medication into super small droplets that can be pushed into the lung
 via an air jet. The older compressor type uses a small air compressor to
 vaporize the inhaled medication producing larger medication particles to be
 breathed in. Naturally, the ultrasound nebulizer technology produces small
 droplet size which is more conducive to lung inhalation efficacy.

     What I would like to know, do you see any problems with producing
 colloidal silver liposomes using your home made protocol and (2) would an
 ultrasonic nebulizer be detrimental to the liposomal structure? Would an
 older compressor type nebulizer as used in the study be better in putting
 liposomes into solution for inhalation purposes or would the newer utrasonic
 nebulizers not over-whelming affect liposomal structure upon vaporzation or
 might it even be beneficial?

     As a side note, I want to add that heavy metals seem particularly
 effective against biofilms of which I would venture a guess that colloidal
 silver would be a superb medication, if one could only get it to be absorbed
 by the biofilm. Liposomal technology may be the key!

 doug


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RE: CSbronchitis ?

[jessie70]

John how does a cold air humidifer get the solution in the air? Jess
  -Original Message-
  From: John E. Stevens [mailto:jonellis.steven...@gmail.com]
  Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 12:49 PM
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Subject: Re: CSbronchitis ?


  Better to use a cold air humidifier with CSW.

  John


  On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 12:46 PM, sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com wrote:

Because the silver will distill out. Steam humidifiers are similar to
steam distillers, except with no provision to collect the distilled steam
and condense it back into water. Silver is left behind, just as are other
ions and particles. This is just basic science of distilling, some volatiles
will transfer in the steam, but silver is not a volatile, neither are salts.
This is why scale builds up in such humidifiers--it is the stuff that is
left behind that is not contained in the steam.
As to keeping the water free of bacteria, silver is used for that many
places world wide. Dentist offices, in the space shuttles I'm told, and so
forth.
sol


At 09:18 AM 1/19/2010, you wrote:

  How do you know this

  In a message dated 1/13/2010 12:47:42 A.M. Central Standard Time,
sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com writes:
   It is safe and will keep the tank water clean, but the silver does
  not pass into the steam but is left behind in the tank.

  sol

  
  Last night I put a simple $20 steam humidifier in his room and added
  about 8 oz of colloidal silver to the water.  He seems much better
  this morning.  I was just wondering if this is safeto add
  colloidal silver to tap water in a steamer?




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Re: CSauto immune hepatitis

[Dan Nave]

You may want to consider Alpha Lipoic Acid, which was recently
mentioned in posts by Brooks Bradley.  Also, see a quote from the
abstract, below:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18972440

These results show that ALA prevents fatty liver disease through
multiple mechanisms, and suggest that ALA can be used to prevent the
development and progression of nonalcoholic fatty liver disease in
patients with insulin resistance.

Loosing weight can't hurt either...

Dan


On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 7:37 AM, Cindy kees...@comcast.net wrote:
 Hi group, I rarely post but read from this group all the time.  I'm not sure
 if this question is off topic, so if it is I apologize.  My sister has
 recently been told she has a fatty liver and upon further blood test showed
 her liver test (alt) was 3 times what it should be and more blood work
 states she has auto immune hepatitis.  She is NOT a drinking or drug user.
 She is having a biopsy done on Thursday.    Now myself and my other sister
 have been told we also have a fatty liver but our blood test are normal.
 Does anyone here have any input as to what may help a fatty liver?  All 3 of
 us are close to 50 and sure we could drop some weight, my Dr. told me not to
 worry.  Non of us over abuse Tylenol or Motrin but we are on a natural
 hormone  Bio identical.

 Thanks
 Cindy




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Re: CSbronchitis ?

[Dan Nave]

It atomizes it mechanically by flinging it against a surface which
causes it to break up into small particles.  The small particles are
like mist, and it is blown out into the air...

Dan

On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 1:05 PM, jessie70 jessi...@optonline.net wrote:
 John how does a cold air humidifer get the solution in the air? Jess

 -Original Message-
 From: John E. Stevens [mailto:jonellis.steven...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 12:49 PM
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: Re: CSbronchitis ?

 Better to use a cold air humidifier with CSW.

 John

 On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 12:46 PM, sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com wrote:

 Because the silver will distill out. Steam humidifiers are similar to
 steam distillers, except with no provision to collect the distilled steam
 and condense it back into water. Silver is left behind, just as are other
 ions and particles. This is just basic science of distilling, some volatiles
 will transfer in the steam, but silver is not a volatile, neither are salts.
 This is why scale builds up in such humidifiers--it is the stuff that is
 left behind that is not contained in the steam.
 As to keeping the water free of bacteria, silver is used for that many
 places world wide. Dentist offices, in the space shuttles I'm told, and so
 forth.
 sol

 At 09:18 AM 1/19/2010, you wrote:

 How do you know this

 In a message dated 1/13/2010 12:47:42 A.M. Central Standard Time,
 sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com writes:
  It is safe and will keep the tank water clean, but the silver does
 not pass into the steam but is left behind in the tank.

 sol

 
 Last night I put a simple $20 steam humidifier in his room and added
 about 8 oz of colloidal silver to the water.  He seems much better
 this morning.  I was just wondering if this is safeto add
 colloidal silver to tap water in a steamer?



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RE: CSauto immune hepatitis

[sol]

At 11:30 AM 1/19/2010, you wrote:
[Cindy] Hi group, I rarely post but read from this group all the 
time.  I'm not sure if this question is off topic, so if it is I 
apologize.  My sister has recently been told she has a fatty liver 
and upon further blood test showed her liver test (alt) was 3 times 
what it should be and more blood work states she has auto immune hepatitis.


This may not seem pertinent, but it would be good for her to have a 
complete CBC and full iron panel with ferritin, and transferrin and 
total iron binding capacity. Many people with liver problems have too 
much iron, though I'm not certain that fatty liver or hepatitis are 
or can be the result of a liver overloaded with iron. In any case it 
can't hurt to have those blood tests done.
sol 



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Re: Re: CSauto immune hepatitis

[Acmeair]

several people have asked about doing the liposomal protocol on Alpha Lipoic Acid. does anyone have any info on this protocol?

how about Liposomal methyl-B12 ? and alsoLiposomal curcumin ?Jan 19, 2010 11:13:03 AM, silver-list@eskimo.com wrote:
You may want to consider Alpha Lipoic Acid, which was recentlymentioned in posts by Brooks Bradley. Also, see a quote from theabstract, below:http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18972440"These results show that ALA prevents fatty liver disease throughmultiple mechanisms, and suggest that ALA can be used to prevent thedevelopment and progression of nonalcoholic fatty liver disease inpatients with insulin resistance."Loosing weight can't hurt either...Dan


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Re: CSauto immune hepatitis

[Cindy]

Thanks to all that have given input.  Now, as far as a liver cleanse, does one 
need to stay close to a bathroom or what can one expect?
  - Original Message - 
  From: Peter Converse 
  To: Cindy ; silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 1:24 PM
  Subject: Re: CSauto immune hepatitis


  Hi Cindy,

  Try looking into Dr. Berkson's work on liver restoration and Hep-C.

  hope this helps,

  Peter
- Original Message - 
From: Cindy 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 8:37 AM
Subject: CSauto immune hepatitis


Hi group, I rarely post but read from this group all the time.  I'm not 
sure if this question is off topic, so if it is I apologize.  My sister has 
recently been told she has a fatty liver and upon further blood test showed her 
liver test (alt) was 3 times what it should be and more blood work states she 
has auto immune hepatitis.  She is NOT a drinking or drug user. She is having a 
biopsy done on Thursday.Now myself and my other sister have been told we 
also have a fatty liver but our blood test are normal.  Does anyone here have 
any input as to what may help a fatty liver?  All 3 of us are close to 50 and 
sure we could drop some weight, my Dr. told me not to worry.  Non of us over 
abuse Tylenol or Motrin but we are on a natural hormone  Bio identical.

Thanks
Cindy

Re: CSHerniated disc's

[herb]

Hi Jason, There is record of disc's regrowing with the use of sea
minerals. Check seamineral.com and talk to the originator who is over in
Australia. Regards, Dr. Steve
h...@mcmo.net

 Hello, my name is Jason I'm  50 yr.
 old male with a health issue.The problem is I have 2 herniated disc's
 that seem to be inflamed with possible infection.They are pain full and
 are causing me to loose muscle mass on my left side, and to walk with a
 limp.I wish I
 could find a alternative cure for the back problem other
 then some type of conventional medicine like surgery,and antibiotics.I
 feel if the infection could be cured then the disc's could possible heal
 themselfs??? Does Any have experience treatment,or any good idea's
 me?





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Re: Re: CSauto immune hepatitis

[arthur rambo]

Cindy, I have hepatitis c, and I am sure that glutathione would be very good 
for auto immune hep. You would need ivs from a doctor. Oral will not do the 
job. I buy glutathione from overseas and do it myself iv, mixed with vitamin c- 
the 2 compliment each other. 
 The liver cleanse is essential for long term improvement, as well. 
  I also believe that every household should have an ozone gen. and use it for 
these conditions, but it seems not everyone shares that view. 
  Also, you might look into the hepatitis CAM @ yahoo.groups where low dose 
naltrexone is used by every member with positive results in modulating the 
immune system. Some members have successfully got their numbers down to normal 
from where yours are. 





From: Acmeair res00...@verizon.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tue, January 19, 2010 11:37:21 AM
Subject: Re: Re: CSauto immune hepatitis


several people have asked about doing the liposomal protocol on Alpha Lipoic 
Acid. does anyone have any info on this protocol?

how about  Liposomal  methyl-B12 ?    and also  Liposomal curcumin ?

Jan 19, 2010 11:13:03 AM, silver-list@eskimo.com wrote:

You may want to consider Alpha Lipoic Acid, which was recently
mentioned in posts by Brooks Bradley. Also, see a quote from the
abstract, below:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18972440

These results show that ALA prevents fatty liver disease through
multiple mechanisms, and suggest that ALA can be used to prevent the
development and progression of nonalcoholic fatty liver disease in
patients with insulin resistance.

Loosing weight can't hurt either...

Dan

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Re: CSbronchitis ?

[martsmail53]

Better to use a CPAP machine all night on cold setting with CS  ions.



In a message dated 1/19/2010 1:11:23 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
bhangcha...@gmail.com writes:

It  atomizes it mechanically by flinging it against a surface which
causes it  to break up into small particles.  The small particles are
like mist,  and it is blown out into the air...

Dan

On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at  1:05 PM, jessie70 jessi...@optonline.net wrote:
 John how does  a cold air humidifer get the solution in the air? Jess

  -Original Message-
 From: John E. Stevens  [mailto:jonellis.steven...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010  12:49 PM
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: Re:  CSbronchitis ?

 Better to use a cold air humidifier with  CSW.

 John

 On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 12:46 PM,  sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com wrote:

 Because  the silver will distill out. Steam humidifiers are similar to
  steam distillers, except with no provision to collect the distilled  
steam
 and condense it back into water. Silver is left behind, just  as are 
other
 ions and particles. This is just basic science of  distilling, some 
volatiles
 will transfer in the steam, but silver  is not a volatile, neither are 
salts.
 This is why scale builds up  in such humidifiers--it is the stuff that is
 left behind that is  not contained in the steam.
 As to keeping the water free of  bacteria, silver is used for that many
 places world wide. Dentist  offices, in the space shuttles I'm told, and 
so
 forth.
  sol

 At 09:18 AM 1/19/2010, you  wrote:

 How do you know  this

 In a message dated 1/13/2010 12:47:42  A.M. Central Standard Time,
 sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com  writes:
  It is safe and will keep the tank water clean,  but the silver does
 not pass into the steam but is left behind  in the tank.

  sol

 
 Last night I put  a simple $20 steam humidifier in his room and added
 about  8 oz of colloidal silver to the water.  He seems much  better
 this morning.  I was just wondering if this is  safeto add
 colloidal silver to tap water in a  steamer?



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Re: CSone for brooks

[Peter Converse]

Hey Doug,

I share your interest in this matter. Thanks for your input! Beating biofilms 
is a topic of great importance, in my humble layperson's opinion.

I did make a few batches of Lypo-CS in a 25 ppm concentration to fight a virus 
a few months ago and it helped quite a bit (taken orally). I'm not sure if what 
I did is something I would want to repeat though and would love some more 
guidance as well. It certainly didn't seem to hurt me in any way and only 
seemed to help.

The nebulizing idea is not something I've considered. Would inhaling lecithin 
liposomes be safe? If Brooks could guide us here that would be awesome!

Great research!

regards,

Peter
  - Original Message - 
  From: polo 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 10:47 AM
  Subject: CSone for brooks


  Hopefully Brooks will have time to consider and comment on this.

  I have long been interested in protocols that will efficiently attack 
biofilm infections. It seems that inhaled (nebulized) liposomal medications are 
very effective in penetrating very difficult to treat lung biofilms. Some 
recent studies have suggested that liposomal antibiotics are superb treatments. 
Here is one:

  http://jac.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/content/full/61/4/859

  
  The above study used a compressor type of nebulizer (nebulizer PARI LC 
Star).   Anyway, I would like to try liposomal colloidal silver in a nebulizer 
for biofilm lung infections, particularly in racehorses. Normally we use 
ultrasonic nebulizers as opposed to the older compressor type nebulizers as was 
used in the above study. Ultrasound nebulizers vaporize the medication into 
super small droplets that can be pushed into the lung via an air jet. The older 
compressor type uses a small air compressor to vaporize the inhaled medication 
producing larger medication particles to be breathed in. Naturally, the 
ultrasound nebulizer technology produces small droplet size which is more 
conducive to lung inhalation efficacy. 

  What I would like to know, do you see any problems with producing 
colloidal silver liposomes using your home made protocol and (2) would an 
ultrasonic nebulizer be detrimental to the liposomal structure? Would an older 
compressor type nebulizer as used in the study be better in putting liposomes 
into solution for inhalation purposes or would the newer utrasonic nebulizers 
not over-whelming affect liposomal structure upon vaporzation or might it even 
be beneficial?

  As a side note, I want to add that heavy metals seem particularly 
effective against biofilms of which I would venture a guess that colloidal 
silver would be a superb medication, if one could only get it to be absorbed by 
the biofilm. Liposomal technology may be the key!

  doug

Re: CSone for brooks

[Brooks Bradley]

  I have only a few moments of time, at present.  However, I offer a couple of comments on your inquiry.
First, there  are a wide variety of enzymes which will act as solvents/penetrants of MANY membrane-type tissues/films.  Bromelain
is one (a very effective one) of many.  Some enzymes are "narrow spectrum" in effect and some are "wide spectrum".  I have no knowledge of the effects of specific enzymes on the effectiveness/enhancement of antibiotics.   
  Briefly, the most effective liposomal substances are...as a general rulethe smallest in particle size.  Ultrasonic
devices and HIGH PRESSURE DIFFRACTION DEVICES are, at present, the most effective for accomplishing this.  Conventional air compressors could serve, quite adequately, in a large number of applications.  The proviso being that one is aware that geometry
of the discharge assembly is of great importance (small particles are vital to non-injurious success).
  We have utilized 90% colloidal silver X 10% DMSO SOLUTIONS to very powerful effect in addressing serious pulmonary insults in equines (all ages).  We have not used enzymes in direct-address situations involving horses.  Primarily, because nothing we have ever evaluated has approached the ability of DMSO as a mucous-barrier  penetrating agent.  Coarse-particled 
gases (liquid mixtures) pose a potential threat for enabling pneumonia-type insults.
  Liposomal encapsulation does, indeed, offer some profound advantages.especially when utilized through proper
supporting equipment.  However, I would counsel that "fiddling/experimenting" with pulmonary challenges among horses, by inexperienced persons (even professionals), is a very DANGEROUS endeavor.  The least threatening/effective protocols we have ever utilized involved oxygen-driven fluids which were micro-sized and furnished via systems of the re-breather type.
  I must go now.  I hope these comments are of value to you.
Sincerely,   Brooks Bradley.



-[ Received Mail Content ]--
 Subject : Re: CSone for brooks
 Date : Tue, 19 Jan 2010 12:58:16 -0600
 From : Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com
 To : silver-list@eskimo.com

Oral bromelain was reported to be very effective in potentiating
antibiotics.  I think this is due to it's action in
penetrating/dissolving biofilms, or some similar action.

Dan

On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 9:47 AM, polo  wrote:
> Hopefully Brooks will have time to consider and comment on this.
>
>     I have long been interested in protocols that will efficiently attack
> biofilm infections. It seems that inhaled (nebulized) liposomal
> medications are very effective in penetrating very difficult to treat lung
> biofilms. Some recent studies have suggested that liposomal antibiotics are
> superb treatments. Here is one:
>
> http://jac.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/content/full/61/4/859
>
>
>     The above study used a compressor type of nebulizer (nebulizer PARI LC
> Star).   Anyway, I would like to try liposomal colloidal silver in a
> nebulizer for biofilm lung infections, particularly in racehorses. Normally
> we use ultrasonic nebulizers as opposed to the older compressor type
> nebulizers as was used in the above study. Ultrasound nebulizers vaporize
> the medication into super small droplets that can be pushed into the lung
> via an air jet. The older compressor type uses a small air compressor to
> vaporize the inhaled medication producing larger medication particles to be
> breathed in. Naturally, the ultrasound nebulizer technology produces small
> droplet size which is more conducive to lung inhalation efficacy.
>
>     What I would like to know, do you see any problems with producing
> colloidal silver liposomes using your home made protocol and (2) would an
> ultrasonic nebulizer be detrimental to the liposomal structure? Would an
> older compressor type nebulizer as used in the study be better in putting
> liposomes into solution for inhalation purposes or would the newer utrasonic
> nebulizers not over-whelming affect liposomal structure upon vaporzation or
> might it even be beneficial?
>
>     As a side note, I want to add that heavy metals seem particularly
> effective against biofilms of which I would venture a guess that colloidal
> silver would be a superb medication, if one could only get it to be absorbed
> by the biofilm. Liposomal technology may be the key!
>
> doug


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Re: CSone for brooks

[Bob Banever]

Brooks,

When you get the chance I have one question for you regarding DMSO and 
CS.  That is is it safe to mix 5 - 10% DMSO and CS to use as a nasal and 
sinus wash?  Since DMSO is so effective at breaking the mucosal barrier it 
would seem to me an effective way of dealing with germs in the sinus cavity.  
Looking forward to your response.

Bob
  - Original Message - 
  From: Brooks Bradley 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 5:18 PM
  Subject: Re: CSone for brooks


  I have only a few moments of time, at present. However, I offer a couple of 
comments on your inquiry. 
  First, there are a wide variety of enzymes which will act as 
solvents/penetrants of MANY membrane-type tissues/films. Bromelain 
  is one (a very effective one) of many. Some enzymes are narrow spectrum in 
effect and some are wide spectrum. I have no knowledge of the effects of 
specific enzymes on the effectiveness/enhancement of antibiotics. 
  Briefly, the most effective liposomal substances are...as a general 
rulethe smallest in particle size. Ultrasonic 
  devices and HIGH PRESSURE DIFFRACTION DEVICES are, at present, the most 
effective for accomplishing this. Conventional air compressors could serve, 
quite adequately, in a large number of applications. The proviso being that one 
is aware that geometry 
  of the discharge assembly is of great importance (small particles are vital 
to non-injurious success). 
  We have utilized 90% colloidal silver X 10% DMSO SOLUTIONS to very powerful 
effect in addressing serious pulmonary insults in equines (all ages). We have 
not used enzymes in direct-address situations involving horses. Primarily, 
because nothing we have ever evaluated has approached the ability of DMSO as a 
mucous-barrier penetrating agent. Coarse-particled 
  gases (liquid mixtures) pose a potential threat for enabling pneumonia-type 
insults. 
  Liposomal encapsulation does, indeed, offer some profound 
advantages.especially when utilized through proper 
  supporting equipment. However, I would counsel that fiddling/experimenting 
with pulmonary challenges among horses, by inexperienced persons (even 
professionals), is a very DANGEROUS endeavor. The least threatening/effective 
protocols we have ever utilized involved oxygen-driven fluids which were 
micro-sized and furnished via systems of the re-breather type. 
  I must go now. I hope these comments are of value to you. 
  Sincerely, Brooks Bradley. 









-[ Received Mail Content ]--

Subject : Re: CSone for brooks

Date : Tue, 19 Jan 2010 12:58:16 -0600

From : Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com

To : silver-list@eskimo.com



Oral bromelain was reported to be very effective in potentiating 

antibiotics. I think this is due to it's action in 

penetrating/dissolving biofilms, or some similar action. 



Dan 



On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 9:47 AM, polo wrote: 

 Hopefully Brooks will have time to consider and comment on this. 

 

 I have long been interested in protocols that will efficiently attack 

 biofilm infections. It seems that inhaled (nebulized) liposomal 

 medications are very effective in penetrating very difficult to treat 
lung 

 biofilms. Some recent studies have suggested that liposomal antibiotics 
are 

 superb treatments. Here is one: 

 

 http://jac.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/content/full/61/4/859 

 

 

 The above study used a compressor type of nebulizer (nebulizer PARI 
LC 

 Star).   Anyway, I would like to try liposomal colloidal silver in a 

 nebulizer for biofilm lung infections, particularly in racehorses. 
Normally 

 we use ultrasonic nebulizers as opposed to the older compressor type 

 nebulizers as was used in the above study. Ultrasound nebulizers vaporize 

 the medication into super small droplets that can be pushed into the lung 

 via an air jet. The older compressor type uses a small air compressor to 

 vaporize the inhaled medication producing larger medication particles to 
be 

 breathed in. Naturally, the ultrasound nebulizer technology produces 
small 

 droplet size which is more conducive to lung inhalation efficacy. 

 

 What I would like to know, do you see any problems with producing 

 colloidal silver liposomes using your home made protocol and (2) would an 

 ultrasonic nebulizer be detrimental to the liposomal structure? Would an 

 older compressor type nebulizer as used in the study be better in putting 

 liposomes into solution for inhalation purposes or would the newer 
utrasonic 

 nebulizers not over-whelming affect liposomal structure upon vaporzation 
or 

 might it even be beneficial? 

 

 As a side note, I want to add that heavy metals seem particularly 

 effective against biofilms of which I would venture a guess that 
colloidal 

 

Re: CSone for brooks

[sol]

At 07:54 PM 1/19/2010, you wrote:


Brooks,

When you get the chance I have one 
question for you regarding DMSO and CS.  That 
is is it safe to mix 5 - 10% DMSO and CS to 
use as a nasal and sinus wash?  Since DMSO is 
so effective at breaking the mucosal barrier it 
would seem to me an effective way of dealing 
with germs in the sinus cavity.  Looking forward to your response.


I'm not Brooks, and I don't know if my experience 
is of any interest to you, but I use CS/DMSO as 
nose drops when needed, and would not hesitate to 
use it in my neti pot if needed. I do keep the 
percentage of DMSO under 5%  for this purpose 
though, about 1 to 2%. I have read that DMSO is 
an effective transporter at 2%, and from my 
experience using it with my pet rabbits (ear 
drops and nebulizing) I believe it to be 
effective at 1%. And 1% or 2% doesn't burn in the 
nose like higher percentages do. I also add MSM 
for nasal use as it reduces irritation and drying
sol 



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Re: CSone for brooks

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Brooks,

Thanks for your time and insight. 

Yes, I have used DMSO/CS and find it very efficient in biofilm conditions. The 
only problem is that most USA horse racing jurisdiction have DMSO on a banned 
substance list. Not good for on going treatment, and it is one impetus for me 
to find new protocols.

I am a bit taken aback by your warning of not fiddling/experimenting,  even 
if I were a professional of which I do consider myself. I have been treating 
racehorses for over 30 years. I would suspect, if you see some of these animals 
come back to the saddling area gushing blood from their nostrils, you might 
change your mind. Particularly when our vets seem powerless to help. All they 
can offer is a few CCs of lasix as a preventive. I should think some fiddling 
and experimenting in a logical manner would be very much to the benefit of 
these animals. I have never caused harm yet.

I think you misunderstood me. I was not trying to produce liposomal CS via the 
ultrasonic or compressor type nebulizers. I was using them as a delivery device 
only for a home-made liposomal CS product made under your recommendations (only 
using CS instead of Vit C) from the harbor fright ultrasound cleanerand 
only then placing the finished liposomal CS product in one or the other type of 
that nebulizer for delivery into the lungs. 

At any rate, thanks again.

doug
  - Original Message - 
  From: Brooks Bradley 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 7:18 PM
  Subject: Re: CSone for brooks


  I have only a few moments of time, at present. However, I offer a couple of 
comments on your inquiry. 
  First, there are a wide variety of enzymes which will act as 
solvents/penetrants of MANY membrane-type tissues/films. Bromelain 
  is one (a very effective one) of many. Some enzymes are narrow spectrum in 
effect and some are wide spectrum. I have no knowledge of the effects of 
specific enzymes on the effectiveness/enhancement of antibiotics. 
  Briefly, the most effective liposomal substances are...as a general 
rulethe smallest in particle size. Ultrasonic 
  devices and HIGH PRESSURE DIFFRACTION DEVICES are, at present, the most 
effective for accomplishing this. Conventional air compressors could serve, 
quite adequately, in a large number of applications. The proviso being that one 
is aware that geometry 
  of the discharge assembly is of great importance (small particles are vital 
to non-injurious success). 
  We have utilized 90% colloidal silver X 10% DMSO SOLUTIONS to very powerful 
effect in addressing serious pulmonary insults in equines (all ages). We have 
not used enzymes in direct-address situations involving horses. Primarily, 
because nothing we have ever evaluated has approached the ability of DMSO as a 
mucous-barrier penetrating agent. Coarse-particled 
  gases (liquid mixtures) pose a potential threat for enabling pneumonia-type 
insults. 
  Liposomal encapsulation does, indeed, offer some profound 
advantages.especially when utilized through proper 
  supporting equipment. However, I would counsel that fiddling/experimenting 
with pulmonary challenges among horses, by inexperienced persons (even 
professionals), is a very DANGEROUS endeavor. The least threatening/effective 
protocols we have ever utilized involved oxygen-driven fluids which were 
micro-sized and furnished via systems of the re-breather type. 
  I must go now. I hope these comments are of value to you. 
  Sincerely, Brooks Bradley.