Re: CSDepression/Anxiety
lol - oh dear is right! On Jan 30, 2010, at 4:37 PM, Rowena wrote: A man in France went to the Dr because of depression, and the Dr. recommended he go to see Coco the clown, and have a good laugh, which would make him feel much better. The man still looked miserable. I AM Coco the clown, he said. Oh dear. Rowena -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSThank you all, Especially Mike
whew, thanks, Chuck, I thought something was wrong here... kathryn On Jan 26, 2010, at 6:48 PM, cking...@nycap.rr.com wrote: Buncha Suckups... What's going on??? Chuck My wife keeps complaining I never listen to her ... or something like that. On 1/26/2010 7:20:04 PM, Norton, Steve (stephen.nor...@ngc.com) wrote: I whole heartedly agree. And at the risk of offending some outstanding contributors, I would also like to extend special appreciation to Marshall, Ode and Brooks for their contributions to the list, in addition to Mike. - Steve N From: Jim Holmes [mailto:gooogleis...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 1:12 PM To: Silver-List Subject: CSThank you all, Especially Mike I have not been subscribing for a couple of years. After returning, more than ever, I very much appreciate this list as one of the superstars of medical information, mainstream, traditional/historical and so-called alternative. The silver list is a priceless jewel. The medical and technical professionals who take the time share their training, knowledge and expertise are saintly people. Thanks again, Jim -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSSilver is a potent nerve cell toxicant
Mike! Is it really you? How are you doing these days? Kathryn On Jan 22, 2010, at 7:51 PM, Mike Monett wrote: It is not surprising that any study using silver nitrate as the source of silver ions will conclude that silver is harmful. But this is a false conclusion. Silver ions by themself are non-toxic to humans and have tremendous healing effects. However, like most substances, silver combined with other substances can have effects that range from benign to lethal. This is often used to persuade people that silver ions are harmful, and should be banned. Regards, Mike == -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CS Clear Body,Clear Mind
I have not personally tried it, but I do know some who have done a doctor monitored version, and were successful in detoxing toxic mold. I have heard various other reports of the validity of the therapy as well. Kathryn On Jan 21, 2010, at 4:16 AM, martsmai...@aol.com wrote: Does anyone know about this detox purification program put out by the Scientology Organization? Has anyone gone through it ?
Re: CS Clear Body,Clear Mind
I don't know what the Hubbard protocols are, but you can look up detox protocols. Some of the main points are sauna- that gets the toxins out in the sweat, so it does not have to be processed by the liver; some type of binder for the intestines, such as activated charcoal, which binds the toxins so they are not reabsorbed and are excreted. Some use enemas, which have the benefit of emptying the colon and gets rid of the toxins that way. Some people have fungal infections from it, so it may be that antifungals are in order. I did mine at home, it took longer but I could control the intensity of the process better. Kathryn On Jan 21, 2010, at 11:15 AM, martsmai...@aol.com wrote: That is what I suffer from mold toxicity. I would like as much information you can give .I live 200 miles from nearest Scientology Clinic. Commitment for a mold program is 3 to 8 weeks, which I can't afford. My body has tremors I can feel at night and during the day if I hold still. I know this is not normal. I have a great doctor who has encourage me to use CS, I am sure he will help with the rest if he knew the protocals. Thanks Marty In a message dated 1/21/2010 10:51:47 A.M. Central Standard Time, clay...@skypoint.com writes: I have not personally tried it, but I do know some who have done a doctor monitored version, and were successful in detoxing toxic mold. I have heard various other reports of the validity of the therapy as well. Kathryn On Jan 21, 2010, at 4:16 AM, martsmai...@aol.com wrote: Does anyone know about this detox purification program put out by the Scientology Organization? Has anyone gone through it ?
Re: CS Anyone dealing with mold issues using colloidal silver for health
Yes, I did. Some of them were easier than others. On Dec 31, 2009, at 6:58 PM, kmartjo...@aol.com wrote: Anyone dealing with mold issues corrected by colloidal silver -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CS.we don't KNOW what would have happened had we NOT taken CS.
Yep. There are probably lots of people that have been saved tons of suffering by taking cs when they had one or another fungal infection. There has been research, but not always easy to find. On Jan 1, 2010, at 12:21 PM, kmartjo...@aol.com wrote: I would be deadI was exposed unknowingly to 9 types of mold for years from a/c in car...read what usually happens withfungal_disease.pdf or www.mayoclinic.com/health/aspergillosis/DS00950 I found additional information after taking CS from EMSL lab show how CS kills aspergillus and other pathogens I was so sick 10 months ago...I didn't care if I died...ionic cs, manna tech, twice daily fir saunas, omega 3 oil,alpha lipoic acid, minerals, zeolite, 10 other supplements ..watching You Tube...The Cancer Answer.running in place on $30.00 ...38 Walmart trampoline... clears lymph glands...do daily for 30 minutes at a time up to 130 beats per minute or your age group then get in sauna.. http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=380881482962821998# a must read for proper supplements.. .Dr.Sherry Rogers books ...Detox or Die, Environmental Illnessother books Clear Body Clear Mind, 7 Pillars of Health, excellent ...Dr.Barry Sears books...on Omega 3 fish oil... it was cs
Re: CS.we don't KNOW what would have happened had we NOT taken CS.
There are other problems with black mold and other toxic molds besides killing it. They produce toxins, and the body has to get rid of them. I have wondered if Brook's lipsomal vitamin C would address this, since in theory it should help a great deal. Killing it is a good idea; however careful attention needs to be paid to removing the toxins at the same time. Some methods have been listed already- sauna, etc. btw- aspergillosis is not incurable- it is certainly curable, just not by the doctor's usual methods. I am speculating that rotating the antifungal protocols to prevent tolerance from developing might be helpful. Not sure though, since using the CS worked for me. I don't have to use anything else. Thanks for the info on the mole and the soda/dmso. That sounds like a good tip. Kathryn On Jan 1, 2010, at 4:13 PM, Dick Rochon wrote: The Italian oncologist, Dr. Simoncini, (watch on Youtube) was curing lung cancer by using baking soda. He claims that cancer is a fungus, and his videos show the cancer turning back pink again and going away. He was curing stage 4 cancers until they took his licence away. A serious danger to the cancer industry. If he is correct that cancer is a fungus, and soda will kill it, then it should also kill black mold, which certainly is a fungus also. If I had it I would dilute baking soda in water and use a nebulizer to breath it. By the way, I used a solution of dissolved baking soda and DMSO, 50/50, about twice a day for a month, on a brown mole that was turning black and bleeding, and it totally disappeared. Never had it looked at or diagnosed, so cannot claim it was cancer. Dick - Original Message - From: kmartjo...@aol.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, January 01, 2010 11:06 AM Subject: Fwd: CS.we don't KNOW what would have happened had we NOT taken CS. IAspergillosis is an incurable disease of the lungs caused by fungal Aspergillus. It is treated using compounds called azoles but researchers at The University of Manchester have found that the fungus has been able to mutate making treatment ineffective. The research, published in the prestigious US journal Emerging Infectious Diseases, showed that 13 out of 14 affected patients recently treated by the team did not respond to therapy and that numerous mutations were responsible. From: chube...@yahoo.com Reply-to: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: 1/1/2010 12:43:29 P.M. Central Standard Time Subj: Re: CS.we donapos;t KNOW what would have happened had we NOT taken CS. fungal_disease.pdf
Re: CSAsthma
there is some research... back in the 90's, but the docs seem to have ignored it. I found it when I was researching allergic fungal sinusitis- there was a doc at Mayo that did the research and found out that many of the patients that had sinus surgery had fungal infections that had invaded the bone/cartilage they had taken out. He then used antifungals for the sinusitis, which works pretty well. After returning to Germany he continued the practice with his patients there, and discovered that those that also had asthma, had it clear up using the antifungals. He went on to do more research into the fungal cause of asthma. But the real way I know it is because the diflucan got rid of my asthma, when I coincidentally was having trouble breathing on the day I took it. Now I use the cs, and it works very well. Kathryn On Dec 31, 2009, at 6:30 AM, kmartjo...@aol.com wrote: How do you know that?? In a message dated 12/30/2009 3:09:14 P.M. Central Standard Time, clay...@skypoint.com writes: When I get a little asthma, I drink a bit of cs and that usually gets rid of it. Lots of asthma is caused by fungal infections. On Dec 24, 2009, at 10:05 AM, kmartjo...@aol.com wrote: How many people are taking cs for asthma and how are you taking it ? What success are you having
Re: CSAsthma
When I get a little asthma, I drink a bit of cs and that usually gets rid of it. Lots of asthma is caused by fungal infections. On Dec 24, 2009, at 10:05 AM, kmartjo...@aol.com wrote: How many people are taking cs for asthma and how are you taking it ? What success are you having
Re: CSNo wonder there's an explosion of:
Well done, Steve. Very good analogy. Water vapor is a significant carrier of many kinds of air pollution, in addition to just making it hard to breathe on its own. The whole idea of lumping CO2 in with floro-compounds is absurd imho- those have significant toxicity all by themselves; and then ignore ozone, which has significant effects, well, I am not sure what they were thinking. I don't follow the logic. CO2 is an essential component of air- life requires it in some amount. If they focus on that instead of things that are actually toxic, then not too much has to change, maybe- whereas if they focus on fcs and pfcs etc then industry has to make changes, which we all know costs money. Not good for businesses. Thanks for the link. Kathryn On Dec 9, 2009, at 7:29 PM, Steve wrote: CO2 is not a pollutant. Without CO2 in the air, plants would die. It's a natural component of our ecosphere. Animals breathe in oxygen and breathe out CO2. Plants breathe in CO2 and breathe out oxygen. Of course, Nixon's EPA has declared CO2 to be a 'pollutant.' Kind of. It's mostly crazy double-speak, in my opinion. Here's a link to what appears to be an unbiased article on the topic - http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124001537515830975.html To put things in perspective, Nitrogen makes up 78% of our atmosphere. Oxygen makes up 21%. Argon is 0.93%, then CO2 comes along at 4th place at 0.038%. The remaining 0.032% is divided up between a bunch of other gases not worth mentioning for this discussion. I find it hard to put these kind of percentages in perspective so I'll compare this to a football field. 100 yards, 300 feet, or 14,400 inches, however you want to look at it. So, between nitrogen and oxygen, we use up the first 99 yards of the football field. That leaves 1 yard, or 3 feet. Argon takes up 2.79 feet which leaves us with .21 feet or 2.52 inches. So, CO2 takes up a little more than 1 1/3 inches out of the whole football field. So, the man-made climate change theorists are trying to panic us because CO2 has gone up by Of course, this is only the 'dry' atmosphere. Water vapor is, like CO2, considered to be a greenhouse gas, because it tends to hold warmth in and prevents it from escaping to outer space. Depending on the area, time of day and season, the atmosphere can range between 1% and 5% of water vapor. So, the EPA picks on CO2 but not water vapor even though they both have the same impact. I'm thinking water vapor has a MUCH larger impact than CO2 because on that old football field it would take up anywhere from 36 inches to 180 inches compared to CO2's lousy 1 1/3 inches. --- On Wed, 12/9/09, slickpic...@cox.net slickpic...@cox.net wrote: From: slickpic...@cox.net slickpic...@cox.net Subject: Re: CSNo wonder there's an explosion of: To: silver-list@eskimo.com Cc: Annie B Smythe anniebsmy...@gmail.com Date: Wednesday, December 9, 2009, 6:02 PM Don't worry, at least they're focu$ing on the most deadly pollutant of all...CO2. Annie B Smythe anniebsmy...@gmail.com wrote: =
CSRe: sunny cs generator info
Hi, welcome. My favorite site when I was new was silvermedicine.org and there is still much really good info at fugitt.com/cs I use a home made generator and batteries, but if I were going to buy one I would buy the silverpuppy. I use a hanna COM 100 meter to test the purity of the water before I start, and I bought and tested many different brands of distilled water before I found the one that is reliably pure for my area. The consensus here seems to be that electrically isolated silver produces a mix of colloidal and ionic silver, mostly ionic, and that it works the best, and is the lowest cost. As you have seen, there is alot of advertising claims made that conflict. But an ion is the smallest possible size of any element, so the arguments about particle size are somewhat ridiculous. Have fun reading! Kathryn On Dec 6, 2009, at 6:43 AM, Sunwaterclear - Sunny wrote: Hi folks, I'm Sunny and I'm new to this list. I've been taking colloidal silver bought in Wholefoods, which comes from a company called Genesis Today, for a while, just spraying it into my mouth as I originally got it for my gum problems. Now I'm seeing the potential for a whole lot more... We've been thinking about buying a colloidal silver generator and I've gotten really confused with all the conflicting information around.I'm reading material about how ppm isn't important but particle surface area is, about the differen
Re: CSRe: sunny cs generator info
Yes, I bought a bottle of each brand I could find, maybe 6 or so, and only 1 was good enough to use for cs making. It depends on the water they use to start with, and then the process can vary also. The brand I ended up with gets water from the river that is processed by the city, then steam distilled. The brands that start out with well water (which is very hard here) all ended up with too many salts or something even after the steam distilling. best wishes, Kathryn On Dec 6, 2009, at 11:28 AM, Sunwaterclear - Sunny wrote: Distilled Water So, Kathryn, you're saying that you tested a lot of distilled water for your area... that's interesting. Did you buy different brands?I was thinking that if I buy distilled water at Walmart or Ingles that the same brand name would all be consistent. Is there a difference? Do different areas have different types of distilled water under a big brand name? We are up for spending about $200 on a good heavy duty producer of CS. We see it as an investment. And how amazing to be able to give away good samples of a product without having to spend the earth. This allows us as a new business to do what most businesses want to do... make generous gestures and allow people to prove for themselves that things work. Wellness Clubs We're planning to
Re: CSI need expert witness for medicolegal reports
yes, I had it too. On Dec 6, 2009, at 12:24 PM, kmartjo...@aol.com wrote: I am on this cs list because I feel that cs probably saved my lifeis there any one else that is suffering from mold inhalation...I was driving a car for years that had 9 kinds mold on evaporator ...this caused much pain in my nose and fungal sinustis, triggered trigeminalneuralgia and asthma...I would like to hear other ideas and books to read to improve my health...thanks user Subj: need expert witness medicolegal reports Anyone know a medical ENT doctor or expert witness who can prepare documents for mold exposure...thanks to cs I recovered. I told my ENT I was using cs and he quit helping me. I was exposed to 9 kind of mold...was so sick I didn't care if I died. one was aspergillos,USER
Re: CSexpert witness medicolegal reports
well there is a toxicologist in Wisc I think his name is Dr Croft, he is one expert. You might try some of the mold lists for other ideas, reading the back postings can be helpful. I used some of the yahoo groups when I was recovering from that. On Dec 4, 2009, at 12:53 PM, kmartjo...@aol.com wrote: Anyone know a medical ENT doctor or expert witness who can prepare documents for mold exposure...thanks to cs I recovered. I was exposed to 9 kind of mold...was so sick I didn't care if I died. one was aspergillos
Re: CSFW: EC Water meter (UNCLASSIFIED)
yes On Dec 2, 2009, at 2:12 PM, Medwith, Robert J Mr CIV USA AMC wrote: Classification: UNCLASSIFIED Caveats: NONE Is this getting to list. Bob Bought a 2052 meter for testing water and CS (came without probe). Buying a probe need to know which Calibration solution to buy. I would assume it is the one on the low end of scale. I would assume it would be the 74.7 74.7 micro-mho (µS) 718 micro-mho (µS) 1,409 micro-mho (µS) 6,660 micro-mho (µS) 58,700 micro-mho (µS) Thanks Bob Classification: UNCLASSIFIED Caveats: NONE -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CS[FW]sophie_langmuir_2003.pdf (application/pdf Object)
got it, thanks Brooks. Kathryn On Nov 30, 2009, at 7:56 PM, Brooks Bradley wrote: I attempted to send this a couple of days ago. If anyone gets it on the silver-list, I would like to know. I have mail program problems...and especially when I try to use two of them to communicate with each other. This is (in my opinion)quite useful information on what, exactly, occurs in nominal liposome formation. the comments on spontaneous formation are especially useful for the lay-person audience. Sincerely, Brooks Bradley. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : sophie_langmuir_2003.pdf (application/pdf Object) Date : Sat, 28 Nov 2009 10:53:58 -0600 From : Brooks Bradley bradlebro...@gmail.com To : brooks76...@lycos.com http://bernstein.harvard.edu/papers/sophie_langmuir_2003.pdf -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
CSHappy Thanksgiving!
Happy Thanksgiving everyone! kathryn -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSOT Vitamin D
I got you all beat- a few years ago mine was off the chart low- measured zero. After supplementing for some months it was up to 25. Then I got the 2000IU tablets, and take those daily, all the time. I have not retested, since I just keep taking it. I take D2-since the only D3 I can find is allergenic for me. I am glad to hear how long it took you to get it within reason. I read the article by that doctor saying that 10,000 IUs a day is not too much for those of us living at the 45th parallel, over the whole winter. Kathryn On Nov 10, 2009, at 4:51 AM, ejohns9...@aol.com wrote: My doctor had mine tested a year and a half ago just on a whim and mine was 8. He almost croaked but suggested I take 800 IU. I came home and read up on the problem and started taking 3,000 daily and had it retested in 3 months. It was still super low so he suggested I take 1,500 so I stated taking 5,000. It took one year to get it up to 30 which he thought was great but I know that's still way too low. I was shocked because we live on a farm and I have always been out doorsy. EJ In a message dated 11/9/2009 5:11:06 P.M. Central Standard Time, j_ma...@yahoo.com writes: Right after joining this group someone posted how important Vitamin D3 was to our health. My daily vitamin wasn't going to cut it during the flu season so following suggestions I ordered some for myself and smaller dosage for the kids. I've been taking 2000IU daily for over 3 weeks. Today I got results from my physical blood test on Vit D and it was 25! The doctor called in a prescription for 50,000/week. Does Vit D take time to build up or was I simply not taking enough do you think? I also wanted to say thanks to those that had the Vit D discussion. I would not have thought to check otherwise. Jeff
Re: CSEIS and mold
Well, sipping from the bottle can contaminate the entire batch so it becomes ineffective. It is important to pour it into a clean bottle (well rinsed with distilled water) and then pour it out into something else without touching skin to the jar edge. I have seen some kind of mold (tiny specks) on the underside of the cap on my bottle after a long time. Kathryn On Nov 10, 2009, at 2:50 PM, Saralou wrote: I'm starting to wonder about my EIS. I know it's doing stuff to the water but... bleah. I just refilled my 4 oz desk bottle (from which I sip from time to time) and noticed the mold/mildiew smell. Blessedly it's only 4 oz. It's a blass bottle with plastic cap. I noticed the same thing on the bathroom bottle a few months ago. Can't tell if it comes from the air or mouth contamination or both or? but the EIS isn't killing it. Somebody please reassure me that EIS kills single-cell fungi so this stuff must be more sophisticated. Saralou -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CStest
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Re: CSStrange question
I have seen gauss meters, and there is a simple one in my multi meter. Does a K2 measure gauss, or hertz? My multimeter makes a cute little noise when it gets near the old knob and tube wiring, so you can tell there is a field that extends more than a foot. It does not have any regular reading for it though, just a noise. I have seen gauss meters that have a numerical readout. Kathryn On Nov 9, 2009, at 3:14 PM, Marshall Dudley wrote: Anyone sensitive to EMF radiation should invest in a K2 meter. Track down and fix or shield anything giving off high EMF. These meters are great for this, they aren't just used for ghost hunting. Marshall Clayton Family wrote: How about a hat made of foil? Seriously. There are fabrics made that screen EM frequencies, and they are made with silver threads in with the cotton or whatever. The military use them for privacy (Em fields are also cell phones and radios) and who knows what else. But they are reported to also work for this kind of thing. I have an OTT light in my kitchen, and the ends of the tubes are wrapped with lead foil to prevent the nasty type of frequencies from leaking out the ends. Someone else suggested aluminum foil might work the same way, and it is worth a try. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSStrange question
How about a hat made of foil? Seriously. There are fabrics made that screen EM frequencies, and they are made with silver threads in with the cotton or whatever. The military use them for privacy (Em fields are also cell phones and radios) and who knows what else. But they are reported to also work for this kind of thing. I have an OTT light in my kitchen, and the ends of the tubes are wrapped with lead foil to prevent the nasty type of frequencies from leaking out the ends. Someone else suggested aluminum foil might work the same way, and it is worth a try. If you did a test run with some kitchen foil to shield your head/neck area just to see if it would work, then it might be worth sinking the money/time into seeing if the fabric is available at something less than an exorbitant price. Or maybe an army/navy surplus would have something like it. Maybe you are tired of ideas now, but it seemed worth mentioning. Best Wishes, Kathryn On Nov 8, 2009, at 6:55 PM, Deborah Gerard wrote: When I go to the grocery store the lights are real high up in the ceiling and don't bother me...but at work the ceiling is an average height ceiling...I notice when we have to go to meetings downstairs, the lights are there also, by the end of the hour or so meeting my ears are beet red along with my neck. When I use to dye my hair the same thing would happen. I use the silver daily to kill off anything going on inside me...and I am in and out of Hospitals, nursing homes and private homes. Being exposed even to the H1N1 and I am happy to say I am pretty healthy. As far as the heavy metals I take clay internally three or four time a week to help keep them at bay, thanks much, Debbie From: Diane Mackey dmacke...@comcast.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sun, November 8, 2009 11:45:37 AM Subject: Re: CSStrange question Debbie, When I was in my teens, I worked at a grocery store and was sick after every shift. I never realized it was the lights until I changed jobs and it stopped happening, then went back to work in a department store and got sick with the same symptoms. When I would go shopping, I'd get sick again! Finally met a biochemist who told me that it was the fluorescent lights that were doing it. At the time, I thought it was weird. I still hate to go shopping because I don't feel well when done, and I'm a fast shopper! My friend, has three sons, two functioning autistic, all full grown. One 'hears' fluorescent lights and it drives him crazy. He also hears 'wiring' in the walls. The other is very sensitive to sunlight and gets hives and nausea. I'm not sure what the connection is, but my very wild guess is anyone who may have a lot of heavy metals or fungus in their bodies, might have a reaction from fluorescent lights for some reason. I would guess the same can be true from certain rays of the sun. Diane - Original Message - From: Clayton Family To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2009 10:32 AM Subject: Re: CSStrange question I agree with Annie, some people are sensitive to florescent lights. In addition to that, there are some neurotoxins that increase sensitivity to EM frequencies, including lights. It is possible that your body has trouble handling it when you are more fatigued, or maybe you are being exposed to something during your workday that increases your sensitivity. Our bodies normally filter out such things, and perhaps that is what happens overnight. I know many people with EM sensitivities, so you are not alone. Kathryn On Nov 6, 2009, at 6:26 PM, Deborah Gerard wrote: This is bizarre problem...I have a problem with florescent lights in our breakroom at work...they don't bother me before work it is when I am almost done at night and I sit there for about twenty minutes and I get spasms in my neck that are unreal...anyone have any info on such a problem...I do try to stay out of the room as much as possible and am not there for eight hours during my shift, thanks much, debbie
Re: CSStrange question
I agree with Annie, some people are sensitive to florescent lights. In addition to that, there are some neurotoxins that increase sensitivity to EM frequencies, including lights. It is possible that your body has trouble handling it when you are more fatigued, or maybe you are being exposed to something during your workday that increases your sensitivity. Our bodies normally filter out such things, and perhaps that is what happens overnight. I know many people with EM sensitivities, so you are not alone. Kathryn On Nov 6, 2009, at 6:26 PM, Deborah Gerard wrote: This is bizarre problem...I have a problem with florescent lights in our breakroom at work...they don't bother me before work it is when I am almost done at night and I sit there for about twenty minutes and I get spasms in my neck that are unreal...anyone have any info on such a problem...I do try to stay out of the room as much as possible and am not there for eight hours during my shift, thanks much, debbie
Re: CSX PPM to start process
You could run it through the distiller again, to see if it gets any better. Wouldn't kill you but not ideal. On Nov 6, 2009, at 9:19 AM, Max Schanfarber wrote: I bought a water distiller and TDS meter. After distilling the water it reads 5 PPM. Is this good enough to make CS? Thanks, Maxi
Re: CSQuestion on thyroid (autoimmunity)- musings
If you are hyperthyroid, then your heart rate is probably elevated, and that may be bad if the rate is too high for too long (over 100). Iodine can cause hyperthyroid in some as the iodine can be stimulating to the thyroid. Good if one is hypothyroid. MMS is not a nutrient- it is a potent chemical that seems to have it's uses, maybe it will help your candida, but it is NOT a vitamin or nutrient of any kind. I would be quite careful with it. Oreganol has been used for candida as well, and again, it is not without side effects if used too long. I do not know if the endocrinologist's understanding is correct or not. There is a very normal fluctuation of numbers, you would have to look it up to see if yours are normal or not. Maybe you can correlate them with what you have been doing, esp if you keep a log. Antibodies are produced in reaction to something- that is what keeps us from getting the same thing over and over again, like measles, chicken pox, etc. We normally have antibodies to many many things floating around in our system, at least that has been my understanding. Is it possible that the MMS is provoking an immune response in some way? Humble's writings may shed some light on this question. I assume you have read all of his stuff on MMS before taking it. If you are getting rid of mold in your system (that is what candida is, basically) there are all kinds of reactions possible until it is gone and the herxing is over. Of course, nutritional support in the form of lots of green veggies, and even juicing veggies won't hurt, and often helps nearly everything. Kathryn On Nov 2, 2009, at 9:07 AM, Lisa wrote: Hi All, I just received word from my endocrinologist this morning that I have antibodies in my blood that’s attacking my thyroid. He stated: autoimmune thyroid disease. At this point in time we’re not sure whether I have Graves disease or Hashimoto’s because my numbers (T3, T4 etc.) have been up and down within the last several months (and several blood tests). We’re waiting for 6-7 weeks to go by to test again with my not taking any supplements (including Lugol’s and kelp which he believes may be the culprit as far as going back and forth). Needless to say, I’m concerned as the last thing I’ll do is have my thyroid removed – but he also mentioned that my body just might do it on its own anyway. So, has anybody had any experience in this at all? Currently I’m on an MMS1 protocol of 15 drops – 2x a day (I felt that my body needed cleansing as I’m quite sure I’ve had rampant Candida). I also have been taking some oregano oil and EIS for a sore throat which is just about gone now. I do take EIS everyday ( an ounce or two “just because”). Has anybody had any positive results with using MMS1 and “fixing” their thyroid autoimmunity problem?!!??!?! Should I add MMS2??!?!?! Please, I’d like very much if anybody can tell me if there’s a way that I can get my thyroid to function properly and get rid of these antibodies. The Dr. said that IF it were to happen it would take months (and the tests are extremely expensive and insurance will cover the 1st one but may raise questions down the road) to see any difference. I’m a member of the Iodine group and also the Stop the Thyroid Madness which really focuses on hypothyroid (and at this point I’m hyperthyroid). ANY feedback would be greatly appreciated as I’m quite concerned! Thank you! Lisa
Re: CSintro
You may find good reading at silvermedicine dot com or is it dot org.. On Nov 2, 2009, at 8:31 AM, Beth Harrison wrote: Hi, I am Beth, just joined the digest list. I have a silver-puppy ordered, and am looking for info from more experienced users. Thanks for providing a place to learn and ask questions. Beth H
Re: CSWould ConcenTrace Minerals Be a Good Gatorade Substitute?
If you look at the mineral content of gatorade, that is close to the normal body fluid. You can also check normal saline or other iv fluid content for comparison. The minerals involved are different from Concentrace. Maybe you will find some benefit from the salt lake minerals, but it is not the same thing. Personally I would not want to add that to my eis, who knows what one could end up with- certainly not eis. I have heard that salt lake minerals are high in bromine, not the best. I saw a table somewhere online that listed the mineral content of water from many locations, maybe you could find it. Best Wishes, Kathryn On Nov 1, 2009, at 6:07 AM, Peter Converse wrote: Hi Folks, Possibly, one or more of the well-seasoned members might be able to answer the following question for me. I have been reading http://silver-lightning.com/theory.html and trying to get an understanding of what takes place when Gatorade is added to CS, for the purpose of improving its absorption into the blood by several times. My question is: If I wanted to accomplish the same goal, of improving absorption of CS into the blood, by substituting the Gatorade with ConcenTrace - Full Spectrum Body Balanced Ionic Minerals and Trace Elements, which has 185 mg. of chloride per 0.65 ml. do you think that the effect might be similar? ConcenTrace also contains magnesium-65 mg., sulphate-14 mg., sodium-2.4 mg., potassium-1 mg. per 0.65 ml.(10 drop serving), in addition to trace amounts of other minerals which are found in sea water. They say that this stuff is concentrated and desalinated - (99% sodium removed through solar evaporation) and sourced from Utah's Great salt Lake and 100% pure. Can anyone comment on this? thanks in advance, Peter
Re: CSEC meter
Great info, Ode, thank you very much for reporting it. I have not done the calibrating work to know the details, but just from reading the info that comes with the meters one can see the resolution is much lower- it seemed like half to me; as you point out it is more than that. I love being able to read in tenths, it makes the readings meaningful to the calculations (Faraday stuff). Mine reads a straight one to one with the Faraday calcs, when I read the solution immediately. It took a while to get enough readings to be able to make that statement with confidence, but there it is. Kathryn On Oct 29, 2009, at 8:03 AM, Ode Coyote wrote: A TDS meter takes +/- 2 uS of conductivity to read 1 PPM and does it in whole digits. That makes the resolution of an EC meter that only displays whole digits, about twice that of a TDS meter. Take out around +/-.9 % for not having decimal places and that's around 90% as good a resolution. Subtract that from 2 digit EC resolution and you get a TDS meter that's +/- 40% as good as an EC meter that has a decimal place. TDS meters sometimes have a nasty habit of skipping a digit while calibrating them too... it just won't display a 5 or a 7 as you twist the screw...jumping from 4 to 6, for example. That's, at LEAST, a 4 uS **possible** built in read error and could be as much as almost 8 uS with no way to tell which...depending on where on the scale you are and that particular meter. I've never seen an EC meter skip a digit. Ode At 06:29 PM 10/28/2009 -0600, you wrote: Ode Coyote wrote: A TDS, in effect reads in every OTHER digit of conductivity..not even whole numbers. That's something like 40% as good as a COM-100 Please clarify this for me. A TDS' smallest reading is 1.0? If that is right what you are saying is that the actual microsiemens reading of a TDS showing 1.0 is 2.0 microsiemens? Yes? No? thanks, sol -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSnew @ this
try the atlas nova website, the colloidal silver tab at the top of the page. On Oct 27, 2009, at 11:12 AM, Max Schanfarber wrote: Greetings, I just bought the Half-Gallon Colloidal Silver Generator from Atlas Nova. This kit comes with a multi-meter. Anyone know of a link explaining the use of this meter to current and when the brew is done? Thanks, Maxi -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSMust read interview
and that fungus is probably valley fever- coccidiomycosis. They have not mentioned how she got cured of that. Why aren't they talking about her disease, instead of cancer, which she did not have? On Oct 27, 2009, at 10:13 AM, Marshall Dudley wrote: Suzanne Summers on health care on Larry King live last friday: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0910/23/lkl.01.html Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSEC meter
not about the company, but I have the HM COM 100 and love it. I prefer one that reads directly in EC, not ppm, although the com 100 will also read ppm, I like my data straight, without having to double the reading. kathryn On Oct 26, 2009, at 11:17 AM, lk wrote: Found this website, http://www.eseasongear.com/tds1.html Considering the HM Digital AP-2. Their prices seem to be very reasonable. Any thoughts about this meter? Anybody have experience with this company? TIA
Re: CSLiposomal C
MSG is MonoSodium Glutamate- so no lecithin is not msg, but I am not sure if it contains any- it does not taste like it to me, but that might not be a scientific statement. I am wondering how the salt/C protocol is going. Hope it works for you. Kathryn On Oct 26, 2009, at 10:15 AM, Gina Moore wrote: I’ve made a few batches of the liposomal C, and they seem to be fine. I’ve been taking 2oz daily. I have a couple of questions though… How do you make it more palatable? I’ve been putting my salt water in it and that helps tremendously. I have Lyme disease and am doing the salt/c protocol – I take about 10gm salt (Redmond’s) in water daily, along with the Vit C (which the liposomal version is working beautifully for). I just wondered what others were doing to get it down easier, or if that was even an issue. My other thing is I like to read/watch a lot of things and I saw somewhere that Soy Lecithin is MSG in disguise! Anyone know if this is true? I’m going to do some research on it, but I was quite alarmed at the statement! MSG is something I avoid like the plauge! Just wanted to get your thoughts… Gina
Re: CSEC meter
It depends on how fussy you want to be. I like my meters, and for me, 55 dollars is not too much. I like to be fussy at times, and wanted to see how accurate I could get with an at home battery set up, so I needed the extra accuracy for my own purposes. Others say they make perfectly good stuff with the ppm meter. They are all EC meters, at least the ones I looked at; it depends on the calibration ( I decided against doing additional calibration) and accuracy. I have had mine for maybe 3 years? and the electrodes are fine. They might wear out more if you are measuring salt water, but for our purposes, probably not necessary. It is nice to have one that is immersible. What I have heard is that if you have the tds (reads in Total Dissolved Solids) meters, then you just have to double the reading. And when you measure the water first, to see that it is good enough, it needs to measure zero or below 2- someone correct me if I am in error. HM is a good company. Don't know about the seller, though. I got mine from silverpuppy dot com Kathryn On Oct 26, 2009, at 1:47 PM, lk wrote: Thanks Kathryn. The HM AP-2 does measure in EC as opposed to ppm. I did notice that the sensor in the HM COM 100 is replaceable it does measure to a smaller increment 0.1. Are these things that one needs to be concerned about or is it just an added plus? Reason I ask is I need to be economical but also don't want to cut myself short in getting the proper equipment to do the job right. :) --- On Mon, 10/26/09, Clayton Family clay...@skypoint.com wrote: From: Clayton Family clay...@skypoint.com Subject: Re: CSEC meter To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Monday, October 26, 2009, 1:09 PM not about the company, but I have the HM COM 100 and love it. I prefer one that reads directly in EC, not ppm, although the com 100 will also read ppm, I like my data straight, without having to double the reading. kathryn On Oct 26, 2009, at 11:17 AM, lk wrote: Found this website, http://www.eseasongear.com/tds1.html Considering the HM Digital AP-2. Their prices seem to be very reasonable. Any thoughts about this meter? Anybody have experience with this company? TIA
Re: CSCS
Great post, Dan, thanks. On Oct 23, 2009, at 10:28 PM, Dan Nave wrote: From an old post of mine. I'll just leave it all in and give credit where credit is due... When I started looking into how to make CS one of the main problems I encountered was how to customize my setup for the materials I might have access to, how to tell when the CS was done, and what concentration it was. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRaw Cider Vinegar
yes, probably. Of course, you can do anything that makes sense to you. Anything that is fermented has similar types of fermentation byproducts that one can be sensitive to, so they can be thought of as a group. Sometimes these sensitivities need to be observed for a period of time only, other times one needs to avoid them for life. Experimentation can help determine this. Kathryn On Oct 24, 2009, at 9:45 AM, Kirsteen Wright wrote: Hi, can anyone give me some advice please. I've recently started taking the raw cider vinegar in water. However, I've recently had a food intolerance test done and came up strongly positive for yeast (among other things). Obviously I have to avoid yeast and I believe this includes vinegar. Does this also include the raw cider vinegar? Any advice much appreciated. Thanks Kirsteen -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CStrying CS, so tired and achy
Thanks for mentioning that. I take a vitamin ( of course it is not made anymore) that has moly plus several others that help with detoxing, like B's etc. Wish they would make it again. I find it helpful too. -kathryn On Oct 23, 2009, at 2:07 PM, Garnet wrote: The trace mineral Molybdenum 150 mcg helps with herxing, it is part of the enzyme system that converts aldehydes. Garnet -- http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Very_Low_Dose_Naltrexone http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LDN_Information Dr Chris Steele, ITV's This Morning supporting LDN http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVpjsDK0LPA Marshall Dudley wrote: You are describing a herx reaction. It means that the CS is killing something. You can back off or not depending on how really bad it is. Remember that the herx is caused by the toxins released when you kill the microbes, and thus drinking lots of water is highly desirable to wash all the toxins out. If you drink lots of water you might find you do not need to back off. Marshall Stacy Rappaport wrote: Hi All, I keep trying, hopefully this reaches hte postings. I've started using CS a few weeks ago, I got to 5 tsps, 4 xs a day but then ran out. someone sent me more and I started at 3tsps but felt pretty bad a 4. I resume CS too quickly. I backed off, stopped it and then resumed again wiht a lower dose. I'm at 4 tsps but feeling really wiped out, lost a lor fo the strength and clarity I had. Sleeping later, simply tired with aches that move around and just feeling as if all sense are dulled. Is this when I should back down again? What is the process like? Do I simply need to wait this out ( 4tsp or 3) until I feel better? Then increase again? ANy feedback would be so very helpful. I feel isolated. Thanks -- -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CScan anyone make a suggestion about an open wound
I assume that it is an opening into the abdominal cavity. An incision into the body is often left to heal on it's own these days since the chance of infection is so great if it is sewed shut. It can take some weeks to close on its own. I would be tempted to get some silver bandages to use over it, even though they are pretty spendy. Alternatively, keeping a gauze dampened with CS might just do the same thing as far as keeping it from getting infected. I would be tempted to ask the doctor if a silver dressing would make the skin heal too fast- maybe they don't want it to close too soon, due to risk of infection. Kathryn On Oct 23, 2009, at 11:42 AM, Bernadette wrote: My friend was diagnosed with stage 4 ovarian cancer. They discovered it on a Thursday and on the following Tuesday she was operated on and everything female was taken out. They closed up her belly-button since a lymph node was pushing through (that is how they found out about the ovarian cancer). Now the incision will not heal properly.She is on chemo for 1 year - going once a week (three weeks on and one week off). Other than the cancer she is in excellent health. She is 66 years old. Would CS help heal this type of open wound? She wrote the following: As far as my opening the Dr. said that there is nothing more he can do. TO reopen it they would have to stop the cemo and that becomes a real problem in the chances are the cemo would not work. So we will go with the cemo and hope that maybe this will close on its own. There is that chance. It is not in fected at this time and if I keep it clean it should be fine. She is willing to try different approaches - I would like to give her some suggestions and then she can make up her own mind as to try them or not. Thank you for any help you could afford her. Bernadette
Re: CSAny feedback?
ok Neville, they are talking about using baking soda to alkalize the body, not to use it with EIS. -kathryn On Oct 22, 2009, at 7:54 PM, Neville Munn wrote: Don't mean to stir up a hornets' nest here but can't help notice conversations about baking soda. For those who MAY be into EIS does this not fly in the face of all noted material regarding baking soda and silver?? If I'm missing something here perhaps someone could briefly put me straight? Maybe I missed something earlier on and these discussions are totally unrelated to anyone involved with EIS. Can someone clear this up for me? N. From: blacksa...@comcast.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSAny feedback? Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2009 19:47:46 -0400 Thanks for the info Marshall...could you offer up your recipe for your mix? Do you use 1 or 2 teaspoons of baking soda with how much citric acid? I'll need to get some good ph strips first...know of where I can get them? I remember somebody mentioning that certain types are any good as they aren't detailed enough. L -Original Message- From: Marshall Dudley [mailto:mdud...@king-cart.com] Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 5:33 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSAny feedback? Lisa wrote: Hi All, On a [yahoo] group there has been some conversation about Sodium Bicarbonate and its use in fighting off cancer, curing kidney ailments etc. I'd LOVE to hear any feedback that you folks may have - knowing that somebody has **something** J Lisa I believe all those relate to it being able to alkalize the body. For cancer it is reported that cancer cannot exist in an alkalized body, and for kidney stones, alkalizing will result in uric acid kidney stones to dissolve. (If you have calcium type of stones, you are already too alkaline). My wife and I are drinking baking soda mixed with citric acid and added to our drinking water to alkalize. The nice thing about that is that it does not screw up your digestive system by neutralizing the stomach acid like baking soda does but is just as effecting in alkalizing. Marshall
Re: CSEuropeans reject swine flu vaccines
Thanks, Dad! On Oct 20, 2009, at 10:25 AM, Marshall Dudley wrote: http://www.prisonplanet.com/europeans-reject-swine-flu-vaccine.html Dad -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSGetting Started
Cloudy? What kind of water did you use? How far apart were the electrodes at first, then how far apart when you moved them? Did you use the laser in a dark room or was it well lit? If you don't have a meter to check the conductivity of the water, do you have a multimeter to check the current flow and voltage? Kathryn On Oct 17, 2009, at 7:54 PM, Jeff Maahs wrote: Finally made my first batch. The silver arrived today and I put together 4 9v batteries and started the process. Over an hour and nothing happened. So I moved the rods closer together and added a bit of the commercial CS we had bought. About 30 minutes later I looked and the solution was cloudy. Using a laser level I looked into the solution and could see the particles. No idea how concentrated it was though as I don't have a meter. I'd like to hear if there is a fairly good method. So we all rinsed our mouths and gargled as it had become a family event. I need to get some of the amber bottles and different tops now. We've had some interesting results with the commercial solution and my youngest's breathing at night. When we use the CS nose spray she doesn't snore or breath loudly. If we forget to have her spray we find out later from the snoring. She's been diagnosed with allergies but it happened so suddenly I'm not so convinced. It's been about 2 weeks with the CS spray so we'll continue and see what happens. Jeff ps - sorry Garnet
Re: CSOT but Cool
LOL!!! On Oct 18, 2009, at 12:57 PM, Malcolm wrote: Uh-oh, otherwise extinguished? On Sun, 2009-10-18 at 10:57 -0400, zzekel...@aol.com wrote: In a message dated 10/14/2009 7:20:06 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, stephen.nor...@ngc.com writes: http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/13/science/space/13lhc.html?_r=4pagewanted=all A pair of otherwise distinguished physicists have suggested that the hypothesized Higgs boson, which physicists hope to produce with the collider, might be so abhorrent to nature that its creation would ripple backward through time and stop the collider before it could make one, like a time traveler who goes back in time to kill his grandfather. - Steve N Is this for 2012-
Re: CSGetting Started
Sort of- it looks like your current may be on the high side, otherwise it would not be so much. It is normal- the water electrolyzes, the silver picks it up and it turns to the gunk you see. To control the amount of gunk, you can control the current more. That you can do with a resistor, diode or potentiometer in series. If you clip your wires to a multimeter set to measure milliamps, it should read zero when you start- that means there is no current flowing through the water to speak of. As the silver ions continue to go into the water, the conductivity increases and the current flow increases along with that. I forget what the details are (read formula is), but less than 1 mA current is a good idea if your silver surface area is under a certain - yours looks close to mine, and 1mA is what I am using. Just looking to see what the current is gives you some clues. I got a 75 ohm potentiometer at the surplus store and put it in series to keep a lid on the current. Maybe it was a dollar. Kathryn On Oct 18, 2009, at 1:38 PM, Jeff Maahs wrote: I'm getting a buildup of gunk on one of the rods. I haven't seen this on any of the videos or pictures. Is this normal? Here's an image if it helps: http://tinyurl.com/yfdskwb Thank you, Jeff
Re: CSGetting Started
ok. I still don't know about the cloudy business. It may be something in the water to start with. Why didn't the bulb light? Does it work at all... On Oct 18, 2009, at 11:07 AM, Jeff Maahs wrote: I used distilled water from a store. They were about 3 inches apart and then ~1 inch when I moved them. I used a piece of plastic and cut slots to hold them the inch apart. I turned off the light to shine the laser. I used a plan that calls for a light bulb in circuit but that never lit. I do have a multimeter I can use and would love to find out how. I'm using a pickle jar to make some more at the moment. Thanks, Jeff From: Clayton Family clay...@skypoint.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sun, October 18, 2009 12:02:19 PM Subject: Re: CSGetting Started Cloudy? What kind of water did you use? How far apart were the electrodes at first, then how far apart when you moved them? Did you use the laser in a dark room or was it well lit? If you don't have a meter to check the conductivity of the water, do you have a multimeter to check the current flow and voltage? Kathryn
Re: CSCAN ANYTHING BE DONE FOR THIS POOR WOMAN?
Marshalee, When you hit reply, you can change the subject line. Please change the subject line- this has nothing to do with the previous subject. -k On Oct 15, 2009, at 2:07 PM, Marshalee Hallett wrote: Dear Mike, (I just tried to send a message to the Silverlist but it failed, so I`ll try sending it this way): Silverlisters: I just found out that my best friend has been diagnosed with breast cancer. She went in recently for a chest xray for her breathing problems, and oops, there was a lump visible. It was biopsied and she was just informed it is malignant. She is a firm believer in CS,thanks to my good experiences, and is also willing to try other alternatives. If you know of any, please let me know and I`ll inform her. Debbie is good people and really needs your help!!! Thanks, Marshalee -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCAN ANYT...now breast cancer
that sounded a little short- I did not mean it to sound that way. I meant it as a constructive suggestion, to help those of us reading only some of the posts. Thanks, Kathryn On Oct 15, 2009, at 2:37 PM, Clayton Family wrote: Marshalee, When you hit reply, you can change the subject line. Please change the subject line- this has nothing to do with the previous subject. -k On Oct 15, 2009, at 2:07 PM, Marshalee Hallett wrote: Dear Mike, (I just tried to send a message to the Silverlist but it failed, so I`ll try sending it this way): Silverlisters: I just found out that my best friend has been diagnosed with breast cancer. She went in recently for a chest xray for her breathing problems, and oops, there was a lump visible. It was biopsied and she was just informed it is malignant. She is a firm believer in CS,thanks to my good experiences, and is also willing to try other alternatives. If you know of any, please let me know and I`ll inform her. Debbie is good people and really needs your help!!! Thanks, Marshalee -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSPreventing Swine Flu
They could have just asked my grandmother... for 5 out of the 6. This is very good common sense advice that can help everyone. On Oct 14, 2009, at 8:28 AM, Dan Nave wrote: Dr. Vinay Goyal is an MBBS,DRM,DNB (Intensivist and Thyroid specialist) having clinical experience of over 20 years.. He has worked in institutions like Hinduja Hospital ,Bombay Hospital , Saifee Hospital , Tata Memorial etc.. Presently, he is heading our Nuclear Medicine Department and Thyroid clinic at Riddhivinayak Cardiac and Critical Centre, Malad (W). The following message given by him makes a lot of sense and is important for all to know -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CScandida.
Antifungals are often prescribed, or one could go with herbal antifungals. The herxing from the die off can be brutal, so putting together a protocol for managing that is essential. Many find relief from enemas of one kind or another, because the toxins causing the herx get re-absorbed in the gut; so evacuating the gut can really help. Sweating is another route toxins can exit, again, wiping the sweat off immediately before it is re-absorbed is important. I agree with Garnet about the supplements and probiotics- that helps both with the herx and the re-establishing of normal gut flora. Often candida is lumped in with other fungal infections that are often present in the body, such as aspergillus, etc, so that can affect the die off, etc. It may be important to go slowly with the antifungals, to keep the die off manageable. But however one looks at it, it is a mountain that must be climbed to get to the other side, no way around it. It is important not to give up too soon, if the herxing is bad. Good luck, Kathryn On Oct 12, 2009, at 10:11 PM, Roger Barker wrote: Just met up with a friend in town who has been diagnosed with candida. He asked me to do a search on the net for treatment suggestions. I'm sure CS would go a long way towards helping him so wonder if anyone has got any information that may be of help? Cheers, Roger B NZ
CSInfluenza information
I received this in my inbox today from my allergist's office, and thought it was worth reading. Cheers, Kathryn --- Navigating the Upcoming Flu Season Throughout the past few months, many of us have heard about the novel H1N1 flu virus that began affecting people througout the world. In June of 2009, the Centers for Disease Control declared this virus a pandemic for its high transmission rate among individuals. It is quite likely that many of us will experience disruptions to our schedules related to the H1N1 virus. The current estimate is that approximately 50% of the population will develop H1N1. The CDC has also predicted that 1.8 million patients may require hospitalization. As a healthcare organization, we have been asked to plan accordingly if 20 to 40% of our clinic employees are home sick at any given time. In the event of a disrupted clinic schedule, Allergy Associate s will make every effort to notify patients should their appointment be affected. Likewise, patients experiencing signs and symptoms of influenza including a fever greater than 100 degrees Fahrenheit, sore throat, nasal congestion, body aches, headache, wheezing, vomiting and diarrhea, along with a cough are likely infected by H1N1 and are advised to stay home. Those infected should remain home until they no longer have a fever and have been off of medications such as ibuprofen or acetaminophen for at least 24 hours. In the event you fall ill and are scheduled to visit the clinic, any advanced communications via email (i...@allergy-solutions.com) or a phone call is appreciated. One of the concerns with the influenza virus is that it also can decrease your resistance to secondary bacterial infections - specifically pneumonia. If you begin to improve, but suddenly have recurrence of symptoms, marked worsening of symptoms, or a significant increase in temperature, these are all signs that you could potentially have a secondary bacterial infection. These symptoms require physician evaluation. It may be helpful to call ahead to your primary doctor to make sure you are going to the appropriate place (Urgent care, Emergency room, vs. primary care office). Flu-related Frequently Asked Questions Additional questions and answers are also available atwww.CDC.gov/ h1n1flu/dick.htm What is the difference between intradermal and intramuscular flu vaccination? At Allergy Associates of La Crosse, we provide our patients and employees with the annual flu vaccination through intradermal administration. This form has been shown to be superior for younger children, elderly patients and those who are immuno compromised. Intradermal administration also uses 1/5th of the amount of the vaccine compared to intramuscular administration and will give equal protection against the seasonal influenza. Research also suggests that intradermal delivery may provide a broader range of immunity against other flu strains, which could include H1N1. Therefore, if you are able to get the flu vaccine intradermally, we would recommend it. If you are unable to receive the flu vaccine at our clinic, we do have templates available which will act as an order for a local physician or nurse to give the flu vaccine intrader mally along with a reference sheet to explain why the use of the intradermal vaccine is preferrable. If I have an egg allergy, can I be vaccinated? For the annual flu vaccine, patients with a mild egg allergy that are able to eat foods containing egg can be vaccinated. However, we recommend that you receive a reduced dose intradermally to decrease the risk of reaction to the vaccine. For individuals with a severe egg allergy who are interested in receiving the annual flu shot or H1N1 vaccine, more caution needs to be taken. Skin testing or IgE antibody testing should be conducted for both the egg allergy and also for either the annual flu or H1N1 vaccine. Dependent upon your test reactions, we can properly determine the appropriate and safe dosing level for the vaccination. Our physicians at Allergy Associates of La Crosse have a treatment protocol developed for both mild and severe egg allergic patients that can be sent to your primary care physician providing guidance for testing and vaccination if you are inter ested in receiving the annual flu or H1N1 vaccinations. If I suspect I have the flu, can I call the clinic for a Tamiflu prescription?Tamiflu is currently being reserved for patients who are at a very high risk of complications such as those who are immunosuppressed. As clinicians, the CDC is urging us not to use Tamiflu for milder cases because of the risk of developing resistance to the flu strain. Therefore, we recommend that patients be seen by their local healthcare provider before being prescribed Tamiflu.
Re: CSFLU- trem - mold
Dear Trem, The problem with mold on sheetrock is that 1. the most extremely toxic variety of fungus is in the gypsum, and when there is a stain from wet sheetrock, it is fairly certain to be a bad variety. That would be stachy... and some people do not seem to be very affected by it. Some of us, though seem to be genetically lacking some enzyme or another that removes that type of toxin from the body, and it builds up, wreaking havok. So she could be affected and you not. Most house inspectors may not be very useful, as there are no good tests to prove a stachy colony unless you can see it and pick it up with some tape. Since it is anaerobic, it is often not in plain sight. In my house, it was on the other side of the tile in the shower stalls- the anaerobic side. It was completely hidden, and yet the toxins it was releasing nearly killed me. We did get it remediated, but not with the help of the experts- there is so much misinformation; and even well meaning people can have VERY incomplete info on what to do about it. It took us some trial and error before we had it beat. About the flu- I had some nasty awful flu last winter, the CS seemed to make it worse. My son 23, just got the flu, high fever, body aches, bad cough. He did a fair amount of cs and it did help. He was only on his back for one day, but was sick for about a week, + or -. Maybe 4 years ago I got a flu vaccine variation (a couple of drops under the skin of the forearm), but it was to see if my immune system was functioning or not from the mold exposure. But the doc said it would also confer immunity to that variety of flu for life. It was also not the thimerosol preserved one, his had to be in the fridge. The doc that was linked to in a previous post has done some good work in that area. I have not read his remediation book, though, maybe it came out after I was done. Best Wishes with all of it, Kathryn On Oct 7, 2009, at 9:06 PM, Trem wrote: I have been sort of monitoring the list and haven't seen any posts saying they had kicked up a flu bug.So, have any of you folks been flu ridden? My wife is considering a regular flu shot because she has developed a respiratory problem over the years and attributes it to mold in our house. I refuse to buy into it because we have not had standing water or continuous lockage into wall cavities. We do have a few small mold like stains on some sheetrock in our basement but I tell her she would probably se the same in any average basement. She isn't considering H1N1 vaccine. I haven't had a shot in 10 years and don't plan to have any in the near or distant future. Let's have a show of hands.anyone caught a flu bug this year? Trem
Re: CSdifference of opinions - Controlled Current
Did you put something in series to keep a lid on the current? Like a resistor, or a potentiometer? I went to the local surplus store and bought a potentiometer for 75 cents. It is a 75 ohm, and has a twist knob handle to raise and lower the resistance. I just hooked it up with wires in series with the batteries and the silver wires, then adjusted it, reading the multimeter to see where to set it. I had to let it run for awhile, since there is no current to speak of when it first starts off. Just getting a resistor will do it too, but I can't remember what the right size would be. The ideal current is below one amp with my wires. But since your have much more silver, you need to know the surface area of the silver to determine the best current limit for your set up. Kathryn On Oct 7, 2009, at 6:01 AM, Thora Rasmusen (Home) wrote: You speak about current controlled. I have a homemade 3 x 9 volt EIS maker with 2 Canadian Silver dollars. Is that a controlled current? Thora From: Clayton Family [mailto:clay...@skypoint.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 7:21 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSdifference of opinions Of course, those who are selling colloidal silver are trying to make some money at it, which is fine, but in doing so they are mistakenly criticizing those who make it at home. Properly made, electrically isolated silver water, will beat store bought any time in my opinion, because it is fresher, and I have found that even well made silver that sits on the shelf needs shaking or something. There are a few brands I still buy and use when necessary, and they work fine, but it costs much more than what I make. Whether or not one's home made silver water is superior to store bought depends entirely on the materials and the process, which determines what we end up with. Using pure water, pure silver, and a current controlled power source will yield ions of silver in solution in the water. You can't get any better than that, in my opinion. Kathryn
CSdental root issues
Speaking of dental issues, does anyone have any idea about Cementum Osteodysplasia? On xray, it looks there are little balls on the ends of the roots of the tooth. Thanks, Kathryn -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRe: silver-digest Digest V2009 #623
I thnk she is referring to herxheimer reaction. Googling turns up: this reaction occurs when large amounts of toxins are released into the body as bacteria die, due to antibiotic treatment or detoxification. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herxheimer_reaction Silver works as an antibiotic, so this reaction is known to occur using it. Kathryn On Oct 6, 2009, at 7:41 AM, Lisa wrote: What’s the heximer effect? From: Deborah Gerard [mailto:devorah...@yahoo.com] Sent: Monday, October 05, 2009 9:50 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSRe: silver-digest Digest V2009 #623 Dave, If you are concerned about the strength of what your making, how much do you use in a day? Do you ever notice the heximer affect? Debbie From: zoe w mtnwalke...@yahoo.co.uk To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, October 5, 2009 6:44:33 PM Subject: Re: CSRe: silver-digest Digest V2009 #623 Follow the money trail. If the writer stands to profit by you not making your own then take it with a grain of salt. The silver I make is at least 3 times as strong and the stuff I bought commercially before making my own, and the prices they charge seem totally unwarranted considering how inexpensive it is to make. JMHO zoe dave bermes wrote: It appears opinions vary. Which is accurate? I realize there are some very experienced users in this group. My friend was fortunate enough to have attended a Beck lecture years ago and he convinced me to use silver ever since and I believe it to be very helpful. I make my own as the good doctor instructed but I am concerned that possibly the silver that I make is less effective than the many retail products that I read of and that always discount the value of the home prepared silver. I joined this group to learn more from experts, which I am certainly not. This conflict troubles me. I am here to learn. dave --
Re: CSdifference of opinions
Of course, those who are selling colloidal silver are trying to make some money at it, which is fine, but in doing so they are mistakenly criticizing those who make it at home. Properly made, electrically isolated silver water, will beat store bought any time in my opinion, because it is fresher, and I have found that even well made silver that sits on the shelf needs shaking or something. There are a few brands I still buy and use when necessary, and they work fine, but it costs much more than what I make. Whether or not one's home made silver water is superior to store bought depends entirely on the materials and the process, which determines what we end up with. Using pure water, pure silver, and a current controlled power source will yield ions of silver in solution in the water. You can't get any better than that, in my opinion. Kathryn On Oct 5, 2009, at 11:33 PM, dave bermes wrote: It appears opinions vary. Which is accurate? I realize there are some very experienced users in this group. My friend was fortunate enough to have attended a Beck lecture years ago and he convinced me to use silver ever since and I believe it to be very helpful. I make my own as the good doctor instructed but I am concerned that possibly the silver that I make is less effective than the many retail products that I read of and that always discount the value of the home prepared silver. I joined this group to learn more from experts, which I am certainly not. This conflict troubles me. I am here to learn. dave - Original Message - From: silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com To: silver-dig...@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, October 05, 2009 6:36 PM Subject: silver-digest Digest V2009 #623
Re: CSTHE COLORFUL--ionizing water
Hi Lisa, Good for you for posting your questions. I am confused as to why you want ionized water. You are making it with your set up- the electrodes (silver wires) do electrolyze the water. Some have said that to get alkaline water simply move one of the wires to a different container of water, so each wires is in it's own jar. One jar will have - ions, the other will have + ions, at least in theory. Somebody else have more? kathryn On Oct 5, 2009, at 6:43 PM, Lisa wrote: Hi Steve, I'm glad you weren't irritated with me -- I didn't even think that (I believe Jim is irritated with ME since I didn't realize you were posting that article as something that stated untruths). I'm here to learn, educate myself and keep myself and my family healthy, protected and safe without all the garbage that both the food industry tries to shove down our throats AND big pharma in trying to convince us that every little hiccup in our lives is a disease and they have a pill to fix it. I'm glad that what I have can make us EIS/CS that is safe, effective and doesn't seem to have an issue with generous amounts when taking it. Now if I can only figure out how to ionize water cheaply without buying a machine that costs $1000's !!! Lisa -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSOT Borax and termites
shake harder. If it is clogging, then it is not completely dissolved. You could even heat the solution. On Oct 3, 2009, at 4:47 PM, Sharlene Miyamura wrote: I mixed Borax with water and placed into a sprayer but it kept clogging the tube of the sprayer. Water is not a strong enough solvent so I think DMSO may work, though propylene glycol has a coating consistency. I'll see how DMSO fares. Thanks Tony! On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 7:36 PM, Tony Moody a...@new.co.za wrote: On 2 Oct 2009 at 12:09, Sharlene Miyamura wrote about : Subject : CSOT Borax and termites Borax might kill termites too, there's Borate treatment used by a few exterminators. After doing some searching, I read that one can mix Boric acid with propylene glycol (biodegradable form of anti-freeze), the glycol helps to saturate the wood. I was wondering if anyone knows what I could substitute for the propylene glycol to make it more environmentally safe. Sharlene What about water or even better, dilute DMSO. hth, Tony -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CS Native American stories--OT
I agree. It also boils down to fear. There is so much fearmongering going around, it is no wonder people are becoming more afraid of anyone who is not like us. On Oct 2, 2009, at 8:52 AM, Melly Bag wrote: It all boils down to lack of LOVE. If only from childhood we are all taught to love everyone dearly, and to overcome hurt, anger and disappointments with love, i think the world would not be as it is. And also if from childhood we were taught not to nurse our PRIDE too much, then we would not be where we are now. PRIDE is the source of all evil while LOVE is the source of all goodness. But, this is difficult and needs much training and self discipline. Melly --- On Fri, 10/2/09, Malcolm s...@asis.com wrote: From: Malcolm s...@asis.com Subject: Re: CS Native American stories--OT To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Friday, October 2, 2009, 2:52 AM I know what you mean. I'm reminded of a remark I once heard; I have two speeds, slow and stop. If you don't like this one you sure won't be happy with the other. On Wed, 2009-09-30 at 20:41 -0700, Sandy wrote: Hi Donna... It is sad the way some people treat others but if we learn from it [in a good way] then we will teach our children not to be prejudice. The man who refused to buy a horse from your Grandfather shows how little he knew because it is a well known fact the Cherokee have a wonderful way with horses. I have found that many people do not know how to act around handicapped people...I feel for your daughter. I had a stroke 6 years ago and do not walk very fast and I have had people honk at me to hurry up and get across the the street...they are in such a hurry they could care less that I might have a problem walking. The funny thing is when someone tries to rush me I get excited and go twice as slow...lol. Sandy
Re: CSOT and borax ( fleas? ants!)
Good Question. I know the ants around here will take it if I mix it with a little sugar first, and dampen it. I did that one year when we had some carpenter ants wandering around the kitchen. It worked very well. We used to use boric acid for roaches back when we lived around the orange groves. On Oct 2, 2009, at 12:18 PM, Marshall Dudley wrote: Will fire ants take it? Marshall Malcolm wrote: Hi, I don't know about boron, the element, but borax is definitely deadly to ants of various persuasions that live around my area, from sugar ants to leaf-miners with a few big ol' meanies in-between. Apparently it tastes like sugar to them (though who figured that out I dunno?) They take it back to the nest where it wipes out the entire colony. I've never had to band it around the house or garden - as a matter of fact I'd think rain would dissolve it? - I just put it where they are coming and going, with something overhead to keep the rain and dew off if necessary - and they do the rest. Take care, Malcolm -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSHelp! asthma, again
The question becomes what is causing her attacks? Is she allergic to cats, mold, pollen, etc? It is equally important to protect her from whatever she is allergic to in the first place. Kathryn On Oct 2, 2009, at 12:28 PM, Gina Moore wrote: So, my daughter is having yet another asthma attack. The last couple she’s had, I was able to fend off with nebulizing silver and giving her ½ a cup or more a day in her drinks. This one isn’t responding to the silver. I have Xeopenex and Budesonide… should I give her that too? Or should we just head to the hospital? She retracting pretty bad, although I have seen her be much worse. I’m at that point where I want to do what’s best for her, but I don’t really want to put her in the stupid hospital. Ugh… Any advice would be greatly appreciated! Gina
Re: CS Native American stories--OT
My NA ancestors chose to not go to a res- they feared extermination once all were corralled, which is what happened over and over, but happily not in all places. They moved West, which they said had much less hatred for blood and much more respect for the individual and his accomplishments; they intermarried, and by the time my grandmother was growing up, she was told she was part Cherokee, but to keep it a secret or it would be very bad. She had that lovely olive skin, which I have also been blessed with. As she taught languages, esp Spanish, she could pass for European. I also have some Cheyenne and some Canawaka. My ancestors found love to be the most important thing, so did not pay much attention to the issues of heritage. Sometimes I feel the loss of that heritage. I saw on PBS a man who paid money to have his blood analyzed by a genetic company, and it was found he was mainly NA. This was something he never knew, he looked Irish, and his family said he was Irish, none of the current generation knew anything about it. He started attending the powwows, and enjoying his newly found connection. I think if we looked into it in that kind of detail, we would see that most of us came from somewhere else at one time, it is only human nature to move around, fall in love, and put in new roots in a new place. If one's family has been on this continent long enough, it is probable that one has some NA ancestry. After all, in the 1600's, there were not many Europeans to marry, and with a growing population it is only natural to intermarry. In my family, we have ancestors that have fought in every war and on every side- so who is to judge who is right or wrong? It is important to honor everyone. One thing is we are taught to stand up for what we believe in, after thinking about if it is true, is it necessary, is it kind? In a hundred years, what will happen if we follow this course of action- will it be good or bad? Many things will not matter at all, so best not to put too much attention there. What is funny to me, is that living in Mn, everyone thinks I am from some foreign country, but my husband who has much more NA blood than I do, looks totally white. It does come in very handy when travel abroad, though, I fit in just about everywhere I go, as long as I don't open my mouth- lol Cheers, Kathryn On Oct 1, 2009, at 6:10 AM, zoe w wrote: Very well stated. Yes it is still happening today and in some ways its even worse than it was hundreds of years ago. But we have survived !!! Even tho not many pure bloods left, and most of us now of mixed ancestry, what little blood is left is very strong. The ancestors are speaking thru us and I find it all just amazing. AND we seem to be finding each other in the most unusual ways, as on this list. We shall not be forgotten, nor put in a cubbyhole for safe keeping. zoe Sandy wrote: Yes, Zoe...I know. I've tried to learn from the things that have come my way whether good or bad. If we learn to be bett -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSborax and boron
ok, again, I think boric acid to be like 4x stronger than borax, so use with caution. Maybe do the mat to come up with the safe dose. kathryn On Oct 1, 2009, at 10:09 AM, Shirley Reed wrote: Well, it seems to be on the safest possible side, I will be using Boric Acid as soon as I can get to the druggist to get some!! Thanks for all the input. pj -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSOT boron and borax
yes, that is what I remember too. But the witch hazel was the kind without alcohol in it. I am not sure it is still available. Kathryn On Oct 1, 2009, at 1:13 PM, zoe w wrote: We had two things we used in our eyes when I was growing up. One was Boric Acid, the other was Witch Hazel. and yes This was standard protocol. zoe Marshall Dudley wrote: My dad was a pharmacist, and I can recall him mixing up boric acid for eye drops many times back in the 50's. That was it seems standard protocol for eye inflammations. Marshall Melly Bag wrote: Thanks for the valuable information Marshall. I was always afraid of boric acid in the eyes. melly -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSSnails and moles
We are coffee drinkers, and this summer my husband applied all our used grounds to the hosta beds, since we were having slug problems. They really don't seem to like the coffee grounds. Can't be fun to crawl over either. On Sep 30, 2009, at 9:28 AM, Dan Nave wrote: Slugs are repelled by caffeine. I would suspect snails are too. You could try sprinkling coffee grounds around (or spray Mountain Dew?). Dan On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 8:22 AM, Jayson john_smith...@yahoo.com wrote: Can anyone tell me if they have any non-toxic ways of getting rid of both of these garden pests! My girl friend has cats they like to lay any where, and every where. And I don't like the idea of poison in my food from residues that might up-take into, or get on our veggies. Thanks for any idea's that might help with these two problems we are dealing with! -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSOT boron and borax
In addition, a boiled, saturated solution of boric acid in water makes an effective remedy for pink eye. It used to be the MD's remedy of choice in the 50's. It may also be helpful for other things. I thought boric acid is much more potent than borax- so less would be needed. Somebody could do the math on it. Kathryn On Sep 30, 2009, at 10:32 AM, Marshall Dudley wrote: For those who want an inexpensive finger dip dosage of boron, and are wary of any impurities that may be in borax, you can get USP boric acid from most pharmacies which is an inexpensive very very pure source of boron. Marshall frankcuns-r...@comcast.net wrote: Hi List Borax is an industrial chemical which contains boron as well as a collection of allowable impurities. If you enjoy eating them, go ahead. Frank Chemist, ND Fuzzmom wrote: Is pennyroyal ok for cats I heard it could ill thems o I avoided it. I know it's ok for dogs..cool where do you get it? - Original Message - *From:* Kirsteen Wright mailto:kirsteen.falcons...@gmail.com *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com *Sent:* Wednesday, September 30, 2009 5:21 AM *Subject:* Re: RE: CSOT boron and borax I've also heard it's good for fleas? Is it? ive tried Everything..diatomaceous earth works some but not very fast and i am allergic to them. I don't know about that but the herb pennyroyal works great for fleas. I don't think it kills them but they hate it so if you manage to get rid of them, it keeps them away. We used to regularly get flleas until i discovered it, as the cats would bring them in. After that, I always spread some dried pennyroyal on the mattressess under the sheets and this kept the beds free. I'd also sprinkle some on the floors and then sweep it into the cracks in the floorboards (we had varnished floors). I'd then rub the herb over myself and take the cat outside and rub pennyroyal through it's coat. The cat didn't mind but you could literally see clouds of fleas leaping off it. good luck Kirsteen No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.114/2402 - Release Date: 09/29/09 05:54:00 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSOT boron and borax
yes it is from the Great Salt Lake in Utah. It is fairly high inbromines, and I don't do well with it, maybe for that reason; but others seem to like it just fine... On Sep 30, 2009, at 12:54 PM, Garnet wrote: Concentrace is a brand name. I bought it at the health food store. It's a fairly well known product made from concentrated salt water. Garnet Fuzzmom wrote: concentrated drops? Um..where do you get them and what are they? I mean what's the difference. - Original Message - From: Garnet gar...@grandecom.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 5:30 PM Subject: Re: CSOT boron and borax I use Concentrace drops in the distilled drinking water that I make myself. Garnet Fuzzmom wrote: then how do you take it as a supplement/ - Original Message - From: frankcuns-r...@comcast.net frankcuns-r...@comcast.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 3:27 PM Subject: Re: CSOT boron and borax Borax IS NOT safe to eat Frank ND Fuzzmom wrote: Isn't borax a laundry soap is it safe to eat/ - Original Message - *From:* Melly Bag mailto:tita_...@yahoo.com *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com *Sent:* Tuesday, September 29, 2009 3:05 PM *Subject:* Re: CSOT boron and borax I use borax to wash my kitchen countertops and floor also in the laundry as it is a good disinfectant - like chlorine. Why don't you just buy the supplement Boron. There is a liquid supplement of silica with boron which i take by jarrows. Melly --- On *Tue, 9/29/09, Shirley Reed /pj20...@yahoo.com mailto:pj20...@yahoo.com/* wrote: From: Shirley Reed pj20...@yahoo.com Subject: CSOT boron and borax To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Tuesday, September 29, 2009, 3:01 PM Does anyone know of any negatives regarding the use of borax as a dietary source of boron??? Have read that just one joint of the index finger coated with borax and popped into the mouth will give enough boron to suffice for daily needs. Need confirmation as to this information. tia pj -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org http://silverlist.org/ To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com http://us.mc807.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=silver-l...@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com http://us.mc807.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com http://us.mc807.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose? to=mdev...@eskimo.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.114/2402 - Release Date: 09/29/09 05:54:00 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.114/2402 - Release Date: 09/29/09 05:54:00 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.114/2402 - Release Date: 09/29/09 05:54:00
Re: CSCS as a sterilizer- vitamin D prevents flu
I just heard this from some kind of doc today- it helps keep the immune system from going into hyperdrive... and possibly killing the strong young adults... it seems to dampen the over reaction. On Sep 27, 2009, at 3:34 AM, Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote: I got mine from iHerb and they are Now brand and they are only $5.56 for 180 softgels and are 1000 IU dee On 26 Sep 2009, at 17:04, Garnet wrote: Vit D3 is the best flu preventative, 400 iu for kids and 2000 iu for adults. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSNano Silver
hype On Sep 26, 2009, at 4:25 AM, Tim Rowe wrote: Hi, Recently, I have come across a few articles and websites touting Nano Silver as being superior to Colloidal - more effective. Is there any objective truth to this, or is it hype? Best, Tim -- http://timrowe.co.uk http://timrowe.posterous.com
Re: CSCS as a sterilizer
asthma is often a fungal infection. When I use my cs orally it keeps the asthma at bay... I usually use an ounce or so holding it in my mouth for a while. For the little ones I wonder if just a few drops at a time would work... I have heard that adding cs to something just before drinking it can be effective, though to my mind it may not be as effective as straight. For me, I had to start out very slowly, as too much would make things worse. So I started out with a teaspoon or so and worked up from there. When the infection dies off it can cause a herks reaction (it did for me) and so I took it slow. Kathryn On Sep 26, 2009, at 10:59 AM, Gladys Williams wrote: My grandson is one year old and my granddaughter is three. Both of them have asthma. I am concerned about the coming flu epidemic. How much CS should they take as a Preventive and can it be added to their milk or juice on a daily basis? Thanks in advance for all replies. G From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick [mailto:d...@deetroy.org] Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2009 11:39 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSCS as a sterilizer yes it would. dee On 26 Sep 2009, at 05:40, Gina Moore wrote: So, if I needed to sterilize something, would CS do the trick? Like say I wanted to make sure my makeup brushes were clean and free of bacteria and such and I soaked them in some CS would that do the trick? Just curious… Gina
Re: CSHow to gauge one's CS solution
yep. Not so rough for me though- with my com 100, after doing the math over and over with many many quarts of eis, for my process, the uS equals the PPM as per Faraday, when read immediately upon turning off the power. So, I would say, that for us hairsplitters, when starting out with pure water as measured by an under 1 uS reading, the uS reading is equal to PPM. Then again, that reading drops over the next day or 2, and I think the ions are playing bumper cars and sticking to each other. Also there are a few oxides/hydroxides continuing passing off electrons to each other in liquid solution. Even so, the total amount of silver has not changed. Kathryn On Sep 25, 2009, at 5:30 PM, Alchemysa wrote: When you are measuring colloidal silver... If you are using a COM100 in uS/KCl mode you can take the reading 'as is.' If its in ppm/NaCl mode you should at least double what is says on the dial. If you have a TDS meter then double what it says on the meter. (All TDS meters are fixed in ppm/NaCl mode). These guidelines only apply if you start with pure water in the first place. If you dont, then any meter is useless for measuring silver. Even the best meters are only a rough guide anyway. (But much better than nothing.) David From: zoe w mtnwalke...@yahoo.co.uk Date: 25 September 2009 3:21:37 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSHow to gauge one's CS solution OK I also have a TDS-3 meter but could never figure out how to use it. If my reading is 11.1 on the Com-100 does this mean my ppm is 22 ? or is it still 11.1 ? Inquiring minds would like to know. zoe
Re: CSHow to gauge one's CS solution
The Com-100 reads it differently than the more simple water testers. It reads pretty close to the actual ppm, while the others read about half of what the ppm actually is. You're good. kathryn On Sep 24, 2009, at 12:20 PM, zoe w wrote: Please excuse me for barging into the middle of this thread, but I'm reading things here that I find rather confusing. Which meter are you using to test your TDS? I've been using the silver puppy for 3+ years now and never had a batch test below 11.1 and normally its over 13.0. Even after sitting untouched for months my TDS is still in the 11 to 12 range. Im using the Com-100 meter and had assumed this meant my CS was 11 to 12 ppm. Am I wrong or what is it Im missing here.Without archives its difficult to trace this back to the source. Can someone please enlighten this feeble brain? btw my DW tests at . 3 or less prior to brewing. Thanks zoe Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote: That is probably normal Melly, you are brewing EIS like most of us i.e. approximately 80% ionic and 20% colloidal. The concentration probably depends on how long it was brewing for. Mine normally reads 7 after the auto Silverpuppy shuts off. It will then go down to about 5 after a couple of days. This would mean it is around 10ppm. dee On 24 Sep 2009, at 17:55, Melly Bag wrote: How do i know if what i brewed is EIS or CS or combination of both or if it even contains silver? Yesterday, i brewed and my TDS read 7ppm. Today, i measured again by TDS and it is only 4. Is it normal to go down? When does it stop going down? Thanks Melly
Re: CSYellow tint?
probably has to do with size of colloids- they scatter light in different colors with different sizes. You may not have reached max saturation, but maybe the current was higher, or maybe the ions were bumping into each other more and became a colloid. If it bothers you, you can wait a couple of days then add a drop or 2 of hydrogen peroxide, that often clears it up. Kathryn On Sep 22, 2009, at 9:17 PM, john freese wrote: Hello, I have a kind of technical question. If you brew a batch of CS for 8 hours and it comes out clear. Then you brew a new batch for 10 hours and it has a yellow tint. Does the yellow tint indicate that you have exceeded maximum saturation? Thank you in advance. John.
Re: CSH1N1 Flu vaccine
why in the world would you have to get the shot? Unless you are a health care practitioner, sometimes they are required as part of the work agreement to get certain vacs. On Sep 21, 2009, at 2:08 PM, Larry Biggar wrote: Dear Silver List. Since you have quite a knowledge base. It appears that we don't need to worry about getting the flu. But what if we have to take the shot?! I've seen quite a few articles about various preps. to take after. But they are complicated and hard to get. At least to me. But I wonder if colloidal silver would be good for ingestion before and after? I hope this posts. As you know. I usually tag another mail. But i haven't seen any discussion about this. We need to wake up and understand what is being done to us! Thanks for any info! Larry
Re: CSWhy not blue?
That looks like it is Bob Beck, and he is speaking somewhere in Orange County, Calif, he is using Arrowhead spring water- he called it tap water also. He might have been in Anaheim, or maybe Fullerton. It is ok, he is not using a current limiter, but is running it for a short time. Kathryn On Sep 21, 2009, at 7:18 PM, john freese wrote: Hello, I found this video on youtube. I have seen his name on the list a few times in the past. My question is. Why is this man not Blue? Or is the white cloudy stuff made in 3 minutes ok? This video might be better named (How not to make colloidal silver.) John. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eVO-cTrEiCE
Re: CSLiposomal Vit. C: Ancillary Commentary
try soy lecithin... Whole Foods in my area carries it, and they can order also. I bought some in the bulk section. Maybe a nutrition store? or a grocery that carries organic food? On Sep 17, 2009, at 7:15 PM, Alvin Rose wrote: What product do you buy in a supermarket or health food store which provides the soy lecithin.. I have not found any to purchase..Any help would be appreciated.. A.R - Original Message - From: Gina Moore vegasmom...@cox.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2009 7:03 PM Subject: RE: FW: CSLiposomal Vit. C: Ancillary Commentary Thanks. Is the protocol I posted right? Do I just substitue the same amount of sodium ascorbate and you would ascorbic acid in the original version? Gina From: Melly Bag [mailto:tita_...@yahoo.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 10:49 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: FW: CSLiposomal Vit. C: Ancillary Commentary Gina, After you dissolve lecithin and ascorbate in water, run them together in blender before pouring into ultrasonic cleaner. Melly --- On Wed, 9/16/09, Gina Moore vegasmom...@cox.net wrote: From: Gina Moore vegasmom...@cox.net Subject: RE: FW: CSLiposomal Vit. C: Ancillary Commentary To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Wednesday, September 16, 2009, 1:02 PM Do you use the same amount of sodium ascorbate as you do ascorbic acid? Meaning if you use 1tbs of ascorbic acid you'd use 1tbs of sodium ascorbate? I really want to do this because I want as much Vit C in my system as I can get! And I need to make sure I do it right, of course. So the protocol would be: 1. Dissolve 3 level tablespoons of soy lecithin in 1 cup of water 2. Dissolve 1 level tablespoon of SODIUM ASCORBATE powder in 1/2 cup of water. 3. Poured both solutions together in the ultrasonic cleaner bowl and turned the unit on Etc... Is that right? Thanks! Gina -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSFW: asthma- Gina
I was not going off at you, but I wanted to be crystal clear about the suggestions being given, in relation to the requested info, since a small child is involved. Kathryn On Sep 12, 2009, at 12:54 PM, Garnet wrote: I did not suggest giving it during the asthma attack. Best read more carefully before going off at someone for something they did not write. ;-))) -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSFW: asthma -Dianne
DIED? I am so sorry for your loss. May I ask what medications were responsible? Kathryn On Sep 11, 2009, at 6:54 AM, Dianne France wrote: Gina Our son had very bad when he was little. My mother-in-law died from side effects of asthma medications so we were very concerned. A friend suggested chiropractic care. I had never used a chiropractor and didn't follow up. Our son got worse and her chiropractor was having a bring a friend free day and so we went. It was amazing. If he was having problems I could take him and they would stop immediately. I don't know if all forms of asthma respond but to this day if our son now 31 has an attack or is starting to have difficulty breathing he immediately heads to the chiropractor. He also has mild scoliosis and these treatments have helped that also. Dianne From: vegasmom...@cox.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2009 17:16:23 -0700 Subject: CSFW: asthma, pneumonia I had this info at one time, but can not find it now! I would appreciate someone telling me again how to nebulize CS. I need all the details. How much CS? How much dilutant? (I'm using DI water.) Any other details that will help me will be appreciated! My daughter (3 years old) is having what seems to be another asthma attack. It's been several months since her last one (March), which actually ended up in pneumonia. I am not interested in going to the hospital with her, so I want to do anything an everything I can to keep her out. If there is some other treatment that you know of that will help her, I would greatly appreciate it! Thank you! Gina
Re: CSMac question - OT
Have you looked at Eudora? It is an old program that worked much better than Mac Mail, but I was too lazy to get it for the new computer, so I just adapted to Mail. Some people still swear by it. www.eudora.com Kathryn On Sep 11, 2009, at 2:37 AM, Tad Winiecki wrote: What does it look like? I can't tell you because we are not good at throwing away mail and between the CS list and my DH's transport list and 300+ junk emails we receive every day Apple Mail froze up on us and now will not open. I downloaded Thunderbird and it won't mark enough spam emails by itself so we have to spend a lot of time deleting them one by one. Does anyone know a better email program to download that can eliminate spam? Nancy -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRe: silver-digest Digest V2009 #516
this is too funny... I use the COM-100 from silverpuppy, it is 55 or so, but gives me accurate readings when I use it right. Kathryn On Sep 11, 2009, at 3:05 PM, Melly Bag wrote: Marshall, That would buy a lot of CS! No, no, best affordable gadget to measure PPM is what i meant. Melly --- On Fri, 9/11/09, Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com wrote: From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com Subject: Re: CSRe: silver-digest Digest V2009 #516 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Friday, September 11, 2009, 12:38 PM Melly Bag wrote: What is the best gadget to measure PPM? Melly Depends on what you mean by best. Cheapest, or what produces the best results. The best results are obtained using atomic absorption spectrometry, and next best would be a photo spectrometer with the proper digestion and preprocessing of the product. The first I think runs about $50,000 and the second about $5,000. Marshall --- On Fri, 9/11/09, silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com wrote: From: silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com Subject: silver-digest Digest V2009 #516 To: silver-dig...@eskimo.com Date: Friday, September 11, 2009, 3:09 AM -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSFW: asthma -Dianne
When I was young, my doctors told us that steroids were very dangerous medications, to be reserved for the most extenuating circumstances, and that he would not endorse them for normal asthma, even as severe as mine was. They were known to stunt growth, and that was seen as a very bad indicator. This was in the 60's. Now they hand them out like candy. I have met women that grew up taking steroids for asthma that were less than 5 feet tall, shopping in the children's sections for clothes. I was told that almost no one dies of asthma. It did happen but very very rarely. They used to give epinephrine shots at the doctor's office to stop an attack. By the time I came along, they had inhalers. Before me, there were misters with epi in them, like an old perfume spray mister. Nowadays there are many more deaths than there used to be. It may be that the steroid inhalers cause more problems than they solve. The silver water does help a great deal. Newer research connects fungal infections with asthma. Kathryn On Sep 11, 2009, at 4:42 PM, Dianne France wrote: Kathryn My mother-in-law developed Churg–Strauss syndrome (also known as allergic granulomatosis) is a medium and small vessel autoimmune vasculitis, leading to necrosis. It involves mainly the blood vessels of the lungs (it begins as a severe type of asthma), gastrointestinal system, and peripheral nerves, but also affects the heart, skin and kidneys. It is a rare disease that is non- inheritable, non-transmissible. Churg-Strauss syndrome was once considered a type of Polyarteritis nodosa (PAN)due to their similar morphologies. She was on Prednisone and/or cortisone and the doctors told us that this was the cause. She died on the fourth severe attack of this syndrome. No one else had ever survived two and rarely survive the first according to her doctors. It was totally unexpected and she is missed, thank you for your condolences. Dianne From: clay...@skypoint.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSFW: asthma -Dianne Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2009 08:39:46 -0500 DIED? I am so sorry for your loss. May I ask what medications were responsible? Kathryn On Sep 11, 2009, at 6:54 AM, Dianne France wrote: Gina Our son had very bad when he was little. My mother-in-law died from side effects of asthma medications so we were very concerned. A friend suggested chiropractic care. I had never used a chiropractor and didn't follow up. Our son got worse and her chiropractor was having a bring a friend free day and so we went. It was amazing. If he was having problems I could take him and they would stop immediately. I don't know if all forms of asthma respond but to this day if our son now 31 has an attack or is starting to have difficulty breathing he immediately heads to the chiropractor. He also has mild scoliosis and these treatments have helped that also. Dianne
Re: CSFW: asthma- Gina
Yes, you really have to give her the albuterol if she can't breath. It is the only thing to do. If it were me, I would use EIS or cs in the nebulizer, with no DMSO at all. Some allergic people are very sensitive to sulfers, so I would not chance it. I would really really talk to the doctor about the use of the steroid inhalers. They all seem to love them, but they are of no use for wheezing. They say they are to be used to reduce the inflammation in the long run. However, if asthma is related to fungal infections as more recent research indicates, it might only serve to increase the infection, if there is one. Steroids can not be stopped cold turkey, though, since the body becomes adapted to them. My home made CS helps my asthma a great deal. I grew up with asthma from the age of 2, so I know what your daughter is going through. Best Wishes, Kathryn On Sep 11, 2009, at 2:52 PM, Gina Moore wrote: I've given her CS twice in the nebulizer. I succumbed to giving her some of the asthma drugs too. Ugh. Xoepenex and Bud esonide. I prefer 'natural' stuff, but she was really wheezing/retracting and I know that stuff will make that stop. I didn't know what else to do. :-( She does seem to be doing better now. She was worrying me this morning. But the CS and drugs in the nebulizer seem to be working now. Ugh. Just trying to stay out of the hospital! Will be nebulizing more CS in a few minutes. Is giving CS nebulized every 3-4 hours sufficient? Someone
Re: CSFW: asthma- Gina
yes, but when it comes to a child who is already reacting in a very severe fashion, you can't afford to take those kinds of chances. I have asthma. I know people that have DIED from asthma. You can't fool around. DMSO is an irritant to start with. It is a very powerful solvent. I used to work around it, I know first hand. This kind of information, in my opinion, serves to muddy the water in this situation, whereas it might be a very welcome addition to an intellectual discussion in a different situation. Unless I had abundant personal experience with using dmso and cs, I would never give it to a child having an asthma attack, unless it was proven beforehand that the child could tolerate it. An adverse reaction could have very severe consequences. Especially when CS alone works really really well, with no chance of such a reaction. Kathryn On Sep 11, 2009, at 7:28 PM, Garnet wrote: Although there are rare individuals truly sensitive to DMSO it is not at all a common occurrence. Always a good idea to patch test *any* new substance though. The subject of sulfur allergy has come up and it depends on the form of sulfur. It is a common misconception that allergy to sulfite or sulfa drugs is a sulfur allergy. This is a misnomer. Sulfur is a component of all protien containing foods. One can not live without sulfur. It is in fact the most abundant mineral in the human body. http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/69144.php Being told that one is sulfur allergic commonly causes confusion, as many people wrongly assume that they will be allergic to multiple sulfur-containing medicines or sulfite preservatives. It is important to know that sulfur is an important building block of life, and that allergic reactions to sulfonamide (sometimes called sulfur) antibiotics do not increase the likelihood that a person will also be allergic to sulfur powder, sulfite preservatives, or non-antibiotic sulfonamide medicines like some pain killers or diuretics (water tablets). Garnet Clayton Family wrote: Yes, you really have to give her the albuterol if she can't breath. It is the only thing to do. If it were me, I would use EIS or cs in the nebulizer, with no DMSO at all. Some allergic people are very sensitive to sulfers, so I would not chance it. I would really really talk to the doctor about the use of the steroid inhalers. They all seem to love them, but they are of no use for wheezing. They say they are to be used to reduce the inflammation in the long run. However, if asthma is related to fungal infections as more recent research indicates, it might only serve to increase the infection, if there is one. Steroids can not be stopped cold turkey, though, since the body becomes adapted to them. My home made CS helps my asthma a great deal. I grew up with asthma from the age of 2, so I know what your daughter is going through. Best Wishes, Kathryn On Sep 11, 2009, at 2:52 PM, Gina Moore wrote: I've given her CS twice in the nebulizer. I succumbed to giving her some of the asthma drugs too. Ugh. Xoepenex and Bud esonide. I prefer 'natural' stuff, but she was really wheezing/retracting and I know that stuff will make that stop. I didn't know what else to do. :-( She does seem to be doing better now. She was worrying me this morning. But the CS and drugs in the nebulizer seem to be working now. Ugh. Just trying to stay out of the hospital! Will be nebulizing more CS in a few minutes. Is giving CS nebulized every 3-4 hours sufficient? Someone -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSFW: asthma- Gina
Oil of oregano is a potent antifungal, which may be why it helps with asthma. I found that Diflucan stopped mine also. I have some OoO on hand, but have found so much success with the CS (EIS) that I have not opened it yet. Again, it is a very strong essential oil, and I definitely would NOT try it on my child without establishing beforehand whether or not it will be tolerated. EIS as you suggest, sounds like a very safe alternative. Kathryn On Sep 11, 2009, at 9:09 PM, Melly Bag wrote: Try oregano oil(3 drops three times a day) and EIS as nasal spray and orally (sublingual 1 minute). Stops asthma and allergy attacks for me instantly. Melly --- On Fri, 9/11/09, Clayton Family clay...@skypoint.com wrote: From: Clayton Family clay...@skypoint.com Subject: Re: CSFW: asthma- Gina To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Friday, September 11, 2009, 6:29 PM Yes, you really have to give her the albuterol if she can't breath. It is the only thing to do. If it were me, I would use EIS or cs in the nebulizer, with no DMSO at all. Some allergic people are very sensitive to sulfers, so I would not chance it. I would really really talk to the doctor about the use of the steroid inhalers. They all seem to love them, but they are of no use for wheezing. They say they are to be used to reduce the inflammation in the long run. However, if asthma is related to fungal infections as more recent research indicates, it might only serve to increase the infection, if there is one. Steroids can not be stopped cold turkey, though, since the body becomes adapted to them. My home made CS helps my asthma a great deal. I grew up with asthma from the age of 2, so I know what your daughter is going through. Best Wishes, Kathryn On Sep 11, 2009, at 2:52 PM, Gina Moore wrote: I've given her CS twice in the nebulizer. I succumbed to giving her some of the asthma drugs too. Ugh. Xoepenex and Budesonide. I prefer 'natural' stuff, but she was really wheezing/retracting and I know that stuff will make that stop. I didn't know what else to do. :-( She does seem to be doing better now. She was worrying me this morning. But the CS and drugs in the nebulizer seem to be working now. Ugh. Just trying to stay out of the hospital! Will be nebulizing more CS in a few minutes. Is giving CS nebulized every 3-4 hours sufficient? Someone
Re: CSThe Blue Man
A while back, somebody posted that they had been in contact with him and were working with him on reversing his argyria. They were supplying him with some EIS, I believe, and were advising him on supplements. If he is pursuing that, then he would have stopped making his brew with tap water, and needs distilled water, etc, which may be unavailable to him for some reason. A distiller is not that cheap, esp for some of us. Kathryn On Sep 10, 2009, at 8:02 AM, MaryAnn Helland wrote: Did anyone see the Today show this morning? The Blue Man was back. The Today Show teased the television audience with the question is he still blue? and showed an outline of Paul (Whatever) backlit only so you had to stay tuned to find out. Well -- the answer is yes, he's still blue but seems to have lost some intensity of color. But I'm wondering what the heck this guy is taking -- he made two statements during the interview that were absolutely baffling. First he said that he has moved and that he can't make his colloidal silver where he's living now. That does not compute. If he's living in a tent without electricity, he can still make it with batteries. Second -- he said that it's very expensive to make. These statements by way of explanation of why he's not taking CS at this time. Wht? Expensive? Someone refresh my memory -- didn't he refuse to give his recipe for what he's calling colloidal silver? MA
Re: CSSchizophrenia - environmental influences
Rowena- permission to cross post?
thx- kathryn
On Sep 8, 2009, at 11:20 AM, Rowena wrote:
‘All diseases begin in the gut’ Hippocrates 460-370BC
Mental illness starts not in the Brain but the Gut. Do you have
digestive problems like colic, bloating, flatulence, diarrhoea,
constipation, and malnourishment {are you very skinny and find it
difficult to put on weight?}, and do you have a white/yellow-coating
on your tongue? Do you suffer from frequent headaches, mood swings,
depression, fatigue, and other symptoms related to ‘candida
overgrowth?’
Read 'Gut And Psychology Syndrome' By. Dr. Natasha Campbell-McBride
MD, NMedSci{neurology}, MMedSci{nutrition}
This doctor, who has a clinic in Cambridge for treating mental
illnesses like Autism, Dyspraxia, Dyslexia, A
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Re: CSSchizophrenia - mold
This is excellent! I know people who have this problem, and have been cured by avoidance and detoxing. I started hearing about the connection between psychological morbidity and environmental exposures in the early 90's- at a conference. Dr Rapp was presenting videos of this exact thing. Cleaning up the environment of moisture is a HUGE help, in addition to the diet. Of course that is a big deal. Thank you for posting this info- it is very helpful. Kathryn On Sep 8, 2009, at 11:01 AM, Rowena wrote: Acting on a hunch triggered by moldy smell in bedroom of relative I spoke of earlier, I searched on schizophrenia and mold: http://www.ericsons.net/329/more-mold--autism---great-plains-tests Shaw reports that the organic acid test has been used to find underlying causes in psychosis, schizophrenia, depression, autism, attention deficit disorder, and a host of physical ailments. “A high percentage of people have b -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCandida and the brain
Many fungal infections present as candida, which may be aspergillus over growth, or many other funguses that can colonize the body. Even so, the treatment can be the same. Kathryn On Sep 8, 2009, at 11:25 AM, Rowena wrote: http://www.candidafree.net/resource_36.htm The effects of yeast overgrowth and Autism, ADD, ADHD, Tourette's, headaches, fatigue, depression and schizophrenia Bruce Semon, M.D., Ph.D. The yeast /Candida albicans/ affects the brain directly by producing toxic chemicals that slow down the brain. I call this the 'toxic chemical slowdown.' To better understand, know that the yeast /Candida albicans/ is a normal resident inside of our intestinal tract. Thi
Re: CSCS-Fibromyalgia
No, it is a bad idea to put anything in the distilled water to make CS. The minerals are for making the drinking water taste good. Kathryn On Sep 8, 2009, at 1:49 PM, jr orrilia wrote: I have a sincere question. Just can't seem to find the info. I bought an AquaVie distiller to have backup in case I cannot locate any distilled water. It comes with a mineral dispenser that dispenses Calcium and Magnesium. Do I really need this in the distilled water to make the Sota 5-10 ppm colloider silver? Thanks for any help givenOrrilia Ask a question on any topic and get answers from real people. Go to Yahoo! Answers.
Re: CSto make,coloidal silve r{{ expense }}
Well, you can't change the laws of nature, and they are fairly simple on this. Anyone can make good electrically isolated silver water at home with minimal equipment, if it is the right kind. After all, it is only silver and water- if both are pure to start with, you won't end up with much else. And when you use low voltage and control the current with a simple potentiometer (75 cents) or a resistor of the correct size, you also get ions without much in the way of particles being generated. Anyone can do it. Simple. Attention to a few details is important- such as very pure water to start- that is essential; and 99.9% pure silver. Cleaning the jars very well and rinsing them very well before starting is also important- cleanliness and proper handling (or I should say, NOT handling) of the silver, jars, and water is very important; think sterile procedures. Clean hands, clean fairly dust free work area, pure water, pure silver, attention to detail, that's about it. You can get as good an outcome as a laboratory, if one follows correct procedures. After all we are only following nature's laws here- we did not make them up, and it is not magic. Kathryn On Sep 7, 2009, at 5:52 AM, John E. Stevens wrote: I don't think the outcome is anywhere near equal... On Sun, Sep 6, 2009 at 5:24 PM, zzekel...@aol.com wrote: In a message dated 9/6/2009 9:15:01 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, jonellis.steven...@gmail.com writes: $159.00 is not expensive... Maybe not to you ---to many of us--way expensive Esp when it can be done in a much less expensive manner with equal outcome... I'm glad you can afford it. Wish I could easily..Maybe some day my ship will come in :-) Lois
Re: CSFibromyalgia
Well, what are you waiting for? One never knows what the future holds, or how much time we have left. Some could benefit from your knowledge, or you could sell the cream to those wanting to try it. Service to our fellow man is a high calling. BTW, I don't have fibro, so this is an academic discussion for me. I am happy you found something that worked for you. Kathryn On Sep 7, 2009, at 8:25 AM, Gayla Roberts wrote: Sol, sorry, but not until I get it patented. I have that to patent and a cream I developed for psoriasis. The psoriasis cream took me 20 years of experimentation. Gayla Bob and Gayla Roberts Always Enough Ranch Acampo, CA - Original Message - From: sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2009 9:37 PM Subject: Re: CSFibromyalgia Gayla Roberts wrote: It can happen. I made an herbal lotion remedy several years ago and it took the arthritis out of my left hip. It has been gone for over 2 years now. Oh, I know it can happen, but one week is not long enough to claim a cure of anything. 2 years though, that is impressive! Care to share what your herbal lotion was made of? sol -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSUnidentified subject!
I did look at the WPF site, and could not locate anything like that in reference to colloidal silver. Most people seem to excrete the silver from the body pretty quickly ( in the ionic form we make at home ) . If one has a problem with metal excretion (rare, but possible) then extra supplements might be needed, or if one lives in an area with specific soil deficiencies, more might be needed. Where I live, there is no iodine in the soil, but there seems to be selenium- so we have to take iodine, like iodized salt. I found much info on excretion of silver at the silvermedicine website. Kathryn On Sep 4, 2009, at 10:29 PM, Melly Bag wrote: Just google colloidal silver + selenium. There are some websites that say that selenium -methionine should be the supplement to take to usher out the silver. Other forms of selenium accordign to them would make the silver stay in tissues. Weston Price Foundation says calcium should be taken as well, but i just lost the document last night. i was reading it and somehow my computer blinked and out it went. Just search in the westonprice.org (i think). Melly --- On Fri, 9/4/09, Clayton Family clay...@skypoint.com wrote: From: Clayton Family clay...@skypoint.com Subject: Re: CSUnidentified subject! To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Friday, September 4, 2009, 9:30 AM Do you have a link to the info you are referring to? There is selenium in nuts, esp brazil nuts. On Sep 4, 2009, at 8:08 AM, Melly Bag wrote: To those of you who used homemade CS for for loved ones for a long time, did you make them take selenium as well, which type? How about calcium which the Weston Price Foundation said is a must. Just beginning to take and make CS. Thanks. Melly
Re: CSNeed a CS generator
Well, I got my silver wire from a jeweler supply, it is 99.9% pure silver, the larger diameter the better, then I use 3 9 volt batteries and wires with alligator clips. I poked a hole in a margarine tub lid about 1.5 to 2 inches apart for the silver wires, which suspends it in the water. It is important to use pure distilled water. atlasnova dot com sells an inexpensive set up, and there are photos on the site also. I did put a current limiter on mine, I think it is a 75 ohm potentiometer, dialed down to read less than one amp current when it is all going. I also bought a water tester- it is a COM 100 from the silver puppy site. That way I can tell both what I am starting with with the water reading, and what i end up with afterward. If you don't want to invest in one of these, maybe one of the listmembers know of a good enogh brand of distilled water brand in your area- in my area only one of them is pure enough for long term CS making, in my opinion. Best WIshes, Kathryn On Sep 5, 2009, at 11:54 AM, Sandy Hollis wrote: Hello Everyone... I cannot afford one of the CS generators off the internet and was wondering if any of you know of a really reasonably priced [good] one that I can make or buy? I have a link to the site which shows how to make them but you need several things I'm not sure about. Do any of you make and sell them? Is there any way you would sell me one? I'd greatly appreciate it. Best regards... Sandy from Texas Live and let live...
Re: CSresting for colds
Wow- I had no idea that the energy use for vision was so high. Thanks for all the suggestions . k. On Sep 5, 2009, at 10:55 AM, Shirley Reed wrote: Once read that we use between one-fourth and one-third of our total body energy for vision. I thought that could not possibly be correct. So I asked an optometrist and he said it was correct. Unconvinced, I asked an M.D. He also said it was about right!! So if we really need to rest, it appears that we need to close our eyes. For a substantial amount of time. That might be why you get better so much quicker than your DH. pj -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSUnidentified subject!
Do you have a link to the info you are referring to? There is selenium in nuts, esp brazil nuts. On Sep 4, 2009, at 8:08 AM, Melly Bag wrote: To those of you who used homemade CS for for loved ones for a long time, did you make them take selenium as well, which type? How about calcium which the Weston Price Foundation said is a must. Just beginning to take and make CS. Thanks. Melly
Re: CSLife Enhancement:: The Truth about Healthcare Reform ( OT)
If you think there is no rationing of health care right now, then you have been blessed with good heath. Or maybe you can get along ok with what passes for health care. But rationing does exist- through denial of care and exclusions of preexisting conditions. HMO's are big business at it's worst- making BILLIONS of dollars, even right now at the height of the recession. they are raking it in; by denying care and denying payment to doctors. They try to keep it all, as much as possible. The Truth that is represented here is a slanted view that is not based on reality- it IS happening already. To have control is to take responsibility for one's health and not to hand it over to HMO's, MD's or anyone. I would like to spend my health care money the way I want to- not the way the HMO thinks I should spend it. I can do that now if I want to be uninsured. On Sep 4, 2009, at 8:42 AM, Karen and Jerry Conrad wrote: I will keep sounding the alarm, anyone over the age of 40 needs to be concerned about this. Karen Conrad http://www.life-enhancement.com/article_template.asp?ID=2138 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRe: silver-digest Digest V2009 #494
If you think your silver levels are high, you can check out some things you can do to lower them- if I remember right it is on the silver medicine dot org site, under argyria. There is quite a discussion about it. There are some supplements that seem to help over time- of course good veggies are always a good thing. There are also a few physical signs like grey fingernail moons, or some coloring of the skin. Glad the MMS is helping your lyme. Kathryn On Sep 3, 2009, at 2:02 AM, Peter wrote: Dear silver-list Just to let you know, I have tried Colloidal Silver intensely to heal me from Lyme. I spend 7000 USD on products, especially a lot of product from INVIVE company. To no help what so ever. I did a metal test resantly and the silver levels in my cells are 300 times higher than they should be. The Lyme is as bad as it has ever been. I'm now on MMS, that helps much better then any CS Thanks so much for CS or is it BS? Best Peter Doedens Amsterdam The Netherlands --- On Wed, 9/2/09, silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com wrote: From: silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com Subject: silver-digest Digest V2009 #494 To: silver-dig...@eskimo.com Date: Wednesday, September 2, 2009, 11:31 PM
Re: CScytokine storm
I did report last winter that I caught some kind of flu and when I took my EIS it got worse. That is the first time it happened like that, usually it is the opposite. There was a discussion at that time about that other strain of flu similar to the one that caused the 1918 influenza epidemic that killed many young people, and some are concerned about the bird flu being that kind. I don't know if a cytokine storm is part of that reaction or not. Kathryn On Sep 1, 2009, at 8:03 PM, Shirley Reed wrote: Mercola's newsletter mentions that CS might cause a cytokine storm (sp) in young persons if they catch the flu. Does anyone have any thoughts on this or any information?? My youngest son is 24 and he regularly ingests CS. Now I am wondering if this is the right thing to do. Mercola is pretty good, imho. pj -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSBrain Stuck: ADD-Alpha/Theta Dominant
Hi Tim, Yes, this sounds familiar to me. Our neurofeedback doctor ( I took my son for neurofeedback training) recommended that I take a supplement of omega 3 oils since the nerve cells are made of fat, and there is some evidence of deficiency in many people. I chose flax, which did seem to help a great deal. I also benefit from including several tablespoons of fat in my diet. I like to use a non hydrogenated margarine that has a balance of omega oils in it. A couple of things that I have found affect the brain are neurotoxins and parasites. The toxins can be chemical or biological, and the biotoxins are often missed. They can include fungal metabolites or algal toxins, or even Lyme disease. For more info on this line you may want to check out Drs Richie Shoemaker and Schaller. One is chronic neurotoxins dot com and the other is usmoldphysician dot com ( off the top of my head, so googling my be necessary). I did read that experimentally some found that there may be a connection between bipolar and parasites in the brain. The MMS might have taken care of that, and it might be that some good fat might really help. BTW, the colloidal silver seems to help my brain function better, for some reason. It might be in my case that a sinus fungal infection got into the brain, and the cs may be keeping that down to a mild roar. Good Luck with whatever you decide, Kathryn Squint as you approach me, lest you be blinded by my beauty On Aug 27, 2009, at 10:50 PM, Tim Armantrout wrote: I was wondering if anyone on this list is familiar with an Alpha dominant version of ADD? I have had 2 brain mapping sessions, one with a LENS practitioner and one with a Neurofeedback practitioner. During regular waking consciousness, both showed an Alpha/Theta dominance overall, with a difficulty to stay in SMR, or low Beta. Reason I bring this up, is I had been feeling/sense like there was some physical/chemical interference within some of the brain's neural structures. Like a glue or chemical/crystaline covering that prevented optimal neurotransmitter communication. This is just an intuitive guess. Does anyone know offhand what might do that in the brain and nervous system? I decided to look for something that would cleanse the brain and nervous system of any residues of any chemicals and break any crystaline coverings that prevented optimal brain health. I have done lots of cleanses/herbs/supplements in the past. Have been taking iodine/Iodoral (4 tabs/day) for 4 months. Before the iodine, did a month of MMS. Have been taking Olive leaf extract. All of these were helpful, but did not really make any significant changes in brain chemistry. Recently, Colloidal Silver came up as one possibility. I have been taking it for 2 weeks now, making my own, 12-15 ppm at 12 ounces a day. There does seem to be something happening, but it is too early to say for sure. My feeling is that I want to keep taking it. Does anyone know of anything else that might give the brain cells a good cleaning and clear out any residues? I am open to suggestions. Thanks in advance, Tim
Re: CSOxysilver
Yes, but that would be against the spirit of free public exchange of information. Kathryn Squint as you approach me, lest you be blinded by my beauty On Aug 25, 2009, at 1:43 PM, Norton, Steve wrote: Man, you guys should have patented your H202 technique! - Steve N -Original Message- From: Marshall Dudley [mailto:mdud...@king-cart.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 11:12 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSOxysilver Pat wrote: My husband heard a radio program this a.m. about Oxysilver. http://www.oxysilver.com/company.asp Is there anything to their claims? At $49.40 for eight ounces of 5 ppm, it must be some great stuff! lol Pat Bet you that it is colloidal silver with H2O2 added. Unbelievably over priced like most pharms are. Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSVitamin B-12
I use Twinlabs sublingual B12 On Aug 13, 2009, at 9:03 AM, Ruth Bertella wrote: Would y'all please provide your recommendation (brand name, where to order, etc.) for a good Vitamin B12? I'm thinking either a liquid to use transdermally or one to use sublingually? If you could provide recommendations on that too I'd really appreciate it. I'd like to order some tomorrow when I re-order my probiotics (PB8) and I just don't have any experience using B12 yet and don't know which brand/form might be best. I'll also be ordering NSI Mega Digestive Enzymes with Pancreatin 10X. If anyone has other suggestions for enzymes, I'd appreciate hearing those as well. Thanks in advance! Ruth I -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSGM grains
That is correct. On Aug 12, 2009, at 7:22 PM, Jean Baugh wrote: Hi, I have been trying to avoid GM in all foods. It is hard to do. Today I received a catalog from King Arthur Flour and decided today was the day to avoid GM. I called the company to ask if they had GM free grains and flour. The conversation was a little fuzzy but the lady said if it says organic, it is NOT GM. I sure hope she is correct. Thought this meant how it was raised. Anyway, they have organic cornmeal, whole wheat white flour (14.4% protein) and lots more. Jean -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
