CSRe: silver-digest Digest V2011 #130
Dissolving curcumin in DMSO works so completely that I thought I could just put a few drops under my tongue to be absorbed directly into my blood stream. Problem is that curcumin precipitates out again if water or vodka is added. So, the drops under my tongue became orange mud, and I believe the only thing that was absorbed was DMSO. I did try to make a tincture with vodka and curcumin. It did not dissolve the curcumin, but it must have dissolved something in the curcumin. Maybe just the color. So, I don't know how much curcumin I really absorbed into my blood stream. Maybe just taking the capsules is the best way. I was not happy with the results of adding it to the lipsomal C. Or I could make a super strong tea of tumeric to add to the lecithin with C. Any comments or suggestions? Dick - Original Message - From: silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com To: silver-dig...@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2011 2:38 PM Subject: silver-digest Digest V2011 #130 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS: Warts/Banana peel cure?
Those old age spots that are odd shaped and get crumbly on top, name starts with a K. Banana skins might work, but I have had them drop off when I taped potatoe sprouts on them a few times. I just crushed potatoe sprouts with the back of a spoon and covered them with a piece of duct tape. My doc said to just try the tape, but I don't think it worked as well. Maybe it would have if I had believed him. Dick - Original Message - From: Deborah Gerard To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 7:59 PM Subject: Re: CSCS: Warts/Banana peel cure? wonder if it would work for skin tag's? -- From: Harold MacDonald har...@telus.net To: Silver list silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tue, February 1, 2011 10:35:28 PM Subject: CSCS: Warts/Banana peel cure? A wart mysteriously appeared on the back of my hand one day and grew rapidly to about 1/4 diameter by 1/4 in height.I used a piece of Banana peel [ 3/4 X 3/4 ] taped over it with inside pulp on rhe wart.I left it for 24 hrs then replaced with a fresh piece for another 24 hrs,then once again.It was gone in a very short time with absolutely no trace of where it had been. It had a crumbly greyish top that itched and stung when scratched. This happened over two years ago and no recurrence so far. Harold
CSliposomes
Wikipedia says liposomes selectively target cancer. If true, LET bicarb, LET C, and LET any of 100 other things may be great cancer therapies: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liposome Another interesting property of liposomes are their natural ability to target cancer. The endothelial wall of all healthy human blood vessels is encapsulated by endothelial cells that are bound together by tight junctions. These tight junctions stop any large particles in the blood from leaking out of the vessel. Tumour vessels do not contain the same level of seal between cells and are diagnostically leaky. This ability is known as the Enhanced Permeability and Retention effect. Liposomes of certain sizes, typically less than 200 nm, can rapidly enter tumour sites from the blood, but are kept in the bloodstream by the endothelial wall in healthy tissue vasculature. Anti-cancer drugs such as Doxorubicin (Doxil), Camptothecin and Daunorubicin (Daunoxome) are currently being marketed in liposome delivery systems. http://www.kjmagnetics.com/categories.asp - Original Message - From: silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com To: silver-dig...@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 8:34 PM Subject: silver-digest Digest V2010 #930 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe: silver-digest Digest V2010 #903
Following is a treatment of skin cancer performed by Dr. Simoncino, the Italian oncologist: Skin cancer All skins cancers are always caused by Candida fungus which has adapted itself to metabolising the most proteinaceous constituents of the epidermis and that therefore only rarely can it be treated with sodium bicarbonate solutions. For epithileomas, basaliomas and melanomas, the treatment to choose is iodine solution at seven per cent, as it is capable of precipitating the proteins of the body of the fungus and destroying them completely in a short time. If the lesions are fairly small, they must be painted with the solution 10-20-30 times twice a day for five days and then once for another ten days so that they become very dark. When the eschar is formed and it is higher than the epidermic plane, it is necessary to continue to paint under and above it, even if at first a strong pain is sensed. This very same operation must be repeated for the second eschar that is formed. At this point, the lesion may be considered destroyed, because after the third cycle it is possible to reach the centre of the neoplasia, where the colonies try to resist to the last. In the presence of a tumour of large dimensions, before performing the treatment with iodine solution, it is necessary to perform a cycle of subcutaneous infiltrations with sodium bicarbonate at five per cent under the lesion for the purpose of liberating the tissue from the possible invasion of the deep planes and of the basal lamina. If this is not done, we risk that the fungus, once destroyed at a superficial level, will defend itself by trespassing into those levels where a conclusive action of the iodine solution is impossible. In cases where the tumour has invaded a cutaneous-mucous transitional zone like the anus, eyelids, vagina or mouth, it is necessary to perform a preliminary treatment of the mucous area with bicarbonate and then, after the elimination of the colonies existing there, proceed to treat the cutis with iodine solution. It is appropriate to highlight that the same type of therapy is to be applied also to psoriasis and to the known fungin afflictions. In fact, the difference between cutaneous mycosis, psoriases and tumours consists only of a variation of aggressiveness and thus of depth of rooting, since the causal agent is always the same: a fungus. Sometimes for the therapy, other corrosive salts can be used in function of the location in the body. What is certain is that dermal ointments and lotions are effective only rarely. - Original Message - From: silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com To: silver-dig...@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, December 04, 2010 10:30 AM Subject: silver-digest Digest V2010 #903 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe: silver-digest Digest V2010 #903
Dr. Simoncini's cancer website http://www.curenaturalicancro.com/ - Original Message - From: silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com To: silver-dig...@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, December 04, 2010 10:30 AM Subject: silver-digest Digest V2010 #903 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSMoles - DMSO and Bicarbonate of Soda
Have you watched the videos on youtube of cancer of the colon and lungs being cured with baking soda by an oncologist in Italy, Dr. Simoncino? Dick - Original Message - From: Rowena new...@internode.on.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2010 6:17 PM Subject: Re: CSMoles - DMSO and Bicarbonate of Soda Wow! VERY interesting. R On 3/12/2010 4:27 AM, Dick Rochon wrote: Tel, I mixed baking soda and DMSO and applied it to suspicious looking moles that were enlarging and/or changing from brown to black, and sometimes bled. It took a month or two, but they turned back to brown and then disappeared completely. One of them I had for my entire life, and I am 82. Never had it diagnosed, but these were some of the signs of cancer. Not recommending anything, just reporting. Dick -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe: silver-digest Digest V2010 #897
Reid, I have not read the rest of the posts on your topic yet, so this might have been asked already, but I am wondering if you had tried just regular Colloidal Silver, 5ppm to 10ppm, and if so, what results you saw? Dick - Original Message - From: silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com To: silver-dig...@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2010 9:30 AM Subject: silver-digest Digest V2010 #897 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe: silver-digest Digest V2010 #897
Tel, I mixed baking soda and DMSO and applied it to suspicious looking moles that were enlarging and/or changing from brown to black, and sometimes bled. It took a month or two, but they turned back to brown and then disappeared completely. One of them I had for my entire life, and I am 82. Never had it diagnosed, but these were some of the signs of cancer. Not recommending anything, just reporting. Dick - Original Message - From: silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com To: silver-dig...@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2010 9:30 AM Subject: silver-digest Digest V2010 #897 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRequest
I receive the posts in the digest form and usually just open the messages with the subject I am interested in, but when you reply to a message with a different topic and do not change the subject, no one can know whether to open it or not. Therefore we may miss something that we would be interested in. Please, if you are changing the topic, change the subject also. Dick - Original Message - From: Deborah Gerard To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 10:36 AM Subject: Re: CSCODEX The first shot has been fired... diatomaceous earth Jill where would you purchase this from? Thanks Deb -- From: grace1...@aol.com grace1...@aol.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Mon, November 15, 2010 1:32:23 PM Subject: Re: CSCODEX The first shot has been fired Food grade diatomaceous earth (about a teaspoon consumed daily) would supply minerals. It also keeps bugs out of grain supplies and off your plants, not to mention out of your attic. You can get it very cheaply in very large quantities. Jill In a message dated 11/12/2010 10:39:14 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, winie...@pacifier.com writes: I don't know if you are familiar with Joel Wallach who did the Dead Doctors Don't Lie tapes to get people into MLM colloidal minerals back in the mid '90's, but he maintained that given good food vitamins were not that critical since we can synthesize many in our tissues or gut with aid of bacteria (but not Vitamin C), but minerals are the basic building blocks that we must consume. I don't know how to replace colloidal minerals, perhaps by eating kelp if available, or using glacial rock dust to grow our vegetables.
CSRe: plasma globe blood electrification could replace contacts pads a
Could you feel anything if you put your hand over the top of the plazma globe? Applying the Rife frequencies manually, (not with a vacuum tube), you use two electrodes to complete a circuit. Similarly with the Beck 4hz and 10 hz, or the Clark Zapper 30,000hz or 2400hz. All of these devices use two or more electrodes with specific frequencies of microcurrents. The plazma globe is only projecting unregulated frequencies, without electrodes. However, possibly the movement of electrons in the globe causes an induction of magnetic energy producing DC current in nearby biologic matter, like animals or plants. Beneficial or detrimental? My tests of plant growth using magnetized water and vortexed water vs plain tap water did not show any benefit whatever. Maybe exposing the seeds and plants to the globe frequencies could show some benefit or detriment. Anyone own a plazma globe that would be willing to try? Broccoli or chia seeds sprout and grow fast, so are good candidates. Rife claimed to see bacteria burst when hit with a specific freq. We have no evidence, that I have read of, that shows bacteria bursting or shriveling up when hit by random freq. Comments invited. Dick - Original Message - From: veganexus...@aol.com To: rrocho...@comcast.net Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2010 11:36 AM Subject: Re: plasma globe blood electrification could replace contacts pads a only empiracal tests would yield such any such indications. perhaps bacteria culture could be used. or fungi. how about bread fungus/mold or various food molds as general indicators. e.g a slice of bread could be soaked in water to hasten the mould growing and cut in 2 one slice left close to the the globe one distant. or a 5 slices of bread in a colum with the globe at one end to give a versus distance indication In a message dated 30-10-10 23:06:22 PM GMT Standard Time, rrocho...@comcast.net writes: I see them offered with blue, green and or red light. Any difference? And would the battery enclosed ones in the lower price range be as good as the larger, higher priced units? And how would we know what frequency they were oscillating at? Aren't some frequencies damaging, or unhealthy? Dick - Original Message - From: veganexus...@aol.com To: rrocho...@comcast.net Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2010 12:21 PM Subject: Re: plasma globe blood electrification could replace contacts pads a The current is believed to be oscillating at a high frequencysee the specs for various devices. enough current ?..did you see the youtube video? the voltage is not enough to produce x-rays but can be tested with a disposable camera to see if the film is fogged. the glass should be left as is ,as the entire idea is to treat in a non-contact way and make it hands free and padless. i cannot find any significant posts about this so i might be the first to advocate it,hence the desire for sick volunteers as i am not sick.
Re: CSLET C
Hi, David. Maybe I mis read the 500 times. Don't know where I got it. Anyway if, as you quote, 5 grams of lipo-c is equivalent to 50 grams of IV-c, that would mean that lipo-c is 10 times more effective than intravenous C. In that case, lipo-c could well be 500 times more effective than oral vitamin C. If so, then the 500x could be accurate and my math would be correct. Of course, bowel intolerance would prevent you from taking that much orally. Anyone else have any comments or corrections? Brooks? Dick - Original Message - From: David AuBuchon To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2010 12:48 PM Subject: Re: CSLET C Dr. Levy says 4 to 6 grams of lipo-C is equivalent in effectiveness to 50 grams IV C. He also stated lipo-C is ten times as effective at resolviing infections as IV C. What exactly these two statements mean even still need some minor clarifications. I think Brooks stated somewhere between 50% and 80% encapsulation. And liposomes on the order of 150 nanometers I think. I don't think 500 has any meaning. ~David On Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 12:21 PM, Dick Rochon rrocho...@comcast.net wrote: Hi, Brooks, or anyone who can answer. I have read that encapsulating Vitamin C in Lecithin can increase the effectiveness up to 500 times, similar to intravenous. Did I read that correctly? If so, then using the recipe of 1 Tbs of Ascorbic Acid would be 12,000mg, and this is dissolved in 4 ounces of distilled water and added to 3 Tbs of lecithin dissolved in 8 ounces of water. In other words, a total of 12 ounces. Therefore you would have 12,000mg of Vitamin C in 12 ounces of water, or 1000mg in one ounce of water. So, if I took one ounce of LET C I would be taking the equivalent of 1000mg times 500, or 500,000mg of Vitamin C. Is this correct? Of course, I am assuming 100% encapsulation, which is probably not possible with our system using an ultrasonic jewelry cleaner. But even if we got 70% encapsulation that should give us the equivalent of 350,000mg Vit C in one ounce of LET C. That would be the same as 700 pills. Please correct my math if I am wrong. Dick
CSLET C
Hi, Brooks, or anyone who can answer. I have read that encapsulating Vitamin C in Lecithin can increase the effectiveness up to 500 times, similar to intravenous. Did I read that correctly? If so, then using the recipe of 1 Tbs of Ascorbic Acid would be 12,000mg, and this is dissolved in 4 ounces of distilled water and added to 3 Tbs of lecithin dissolved in 8 ounces of water. In other words, a total of 12 ounces. Therefore you would have 12,000mg of Vitamin C in 12 ounces of water, or 1000mg in one ounce of water. So, if I took one ounce of LET C I would be taking the equivalent of 1000mg times 500, or 500,000mg of Vitamin C. Is this correct? Of course, I am assuming 100% encapsulation, which is probably not possible with our system using an ultrasonic jewelry cleaner. But even if we got 70% encapsulation that should give us the equivalent of 350,000mg Vit C in one ounce of LET C. That would be the same as 700 pills. Please correct my math if I am wrong. Dick
CSRe: silver-digest Digest V2010 #863
Mike, I sent an email with attached photos of my test of vortexed and magnetic bender water on seeds, but I have not seen it in my daily digest. Was it considered off topic, or are emails with attachments stopped for security purposes? Dick -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
CSLET C, etc.
I just made another double batch of LET C in my large Harbor Freight jewelry cleaner, and I measured the Ph of the Vitamin C after adding the one and a half tsp of sodium bicarbonate. It was in the low 6's, so I slowly added another one and a half tsp sodium bicarbonate until the Ph was in the 7's, and there was no more fizzing. I don't know why the recipe calls for only 1 1/2 tsp soda, but it seems to me that if you are going to form an ascorbate it should not be acidic. Am I correct, or do I misunderstand something? The dissolved Lecithin read a little below 7, but after adding the buffered Vitamin C and putting it in the jewelery cleaner for 8 minutes it read in the 7s. I don't know if everyone is familiar with the Italian oncologist who was curing cancer with sodium bicarbonate (until his licence was taken away). You can watch his interviews on Youtube, and videos of the tumors disappearing. He cured lung cancer and colon cancer by bathing them with dissolved soda, but he said tumors that were in other organs were treated by injecting soda into the arteries that supplied them blood. Since soda is neutralised by stomach acid, and therefore cannot get to the cancerous organs, I am wondering if encapsulating it in lecithin like we do with vitamin C, to bypass the stomach acid and go directly into the small intestine where it goes into the blood to the organs, would be successful in treating cancer. I have read that we all have cancer cells, but that our immune system holds it in check (unless we suffer a trauma that needs the immune system's attention) when the cancer can form a tumor and grow. As far as I know I am not harboring cancer, but I think it might be wise to assist the immune system by taking LET Soda. Just in case. Any thoughts? Dick
Re: CSRe: silver-digest Digest V2010 #850
When incandescent bulbs are outlawed you can still use a small aquarium bubbler to circulate the solution when making CS, Mine cost $8. --- From: Ode Coyote odecoy...@windstream.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, October 22, 2010 1:31 AM Subject: Re: CSRe: silver-digest Digest V2010 #850 No. But making a florescent bulb that small would be very difficult [but not LED, but LED lights are notoriously dim ] At a mere 4 to 7 watts, those **might* be exemptI can still get 6 watt 230 volt filament candelabra bulbs from Australia which outlawed incandescents years ago. A tiny halogen bulb will work...or a small nichrome wire heating element Ode At 12:31 PM 10/21/2010 -0500, you wrote: One thought that came to me last night ... kind of out of the blue ... but it seems I heard something recently that they are going to complete phase out incandencent light bulbs ... I have not researched this and don't know if this is every bulb (like night lights and appliance bulbs) or just normal household bulbs. Random thought, but might be important if eventually there are no bulbs available for the thermal/light stirring device - Ode would it work with an LED or some type of flourecent bulb? Jaxi On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 10:29 AM, Melly Bag mailto:tita_...@yahoo.comtita_...@yahoo.com wrote: Jaxi, Thanks for your reply. That will truly help me in my decision which kit to buy. Melly --- On Thu, 10/21/10, mailto:silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.comsilver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com mailto:silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.comsilver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com wrote: From: mailto:silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.comsilver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com mailto:silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.comsilver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com Subject: silver-digest Digest V2010 #850 To: mailto:silver-dig...@eskimo.comsilver-dig...@eskimo.com Date: Thursday, October 21, 2010, 1:49 AM -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSLeg Cramps .. First Aid
I did read somewhere that cramps were the result of salt depletion, so one
night I woke up with leg cramps and got up, went into the kitchen and put a
spoonful of salt in my mouth and washed it down with a little water. I very
quickly forgot about my leg cramps as the pain in my stomach gained priority. I
guess I didn't see the recommendation of using a pinch.
Dick
- Original Message -
From: Faith Saint Francis
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Saturday, October 16, 2010 5:00 AM
Subject: RE: CSLeg Cramps .. First Aid
Hello Beloved CS-Circle!
I could not find the origin of this thread,
so I don't know if it has already worn out.
Yet: here is an incredibly easy trick to undo
yourself of (leg)cramps directly:
We walk long distances (6 to 8 hours) in the
high Andes Mountains, and people are apt to
get leg-cramps, very painful, so:
Press, with your fingertip, directly under
the nose, between the nostrils
where the septum begins.
Make tiny little circles with the fingertip,
pressing hard, but without overdoing it;
do this three times, for three seconds.
Bye cramps!
As first aid, a little salt under the tongue
will also do.
Like to serve, hope to help,
Leonardo Faith
Licensed, practising and devoted
reflexology practitioner,
Health adviser,
and (since yesterday)
Dianetics Profesional Auditor.
--
From: zzekel...@aol.com
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2010 21:01:35 -0400
Subject: Re: CSLeg Cramps
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Hi Dick,
I know you did not ask, but here is my experience anyway. I have
ongoing electrolyte issues and have found that potassium works better for my
leg cramps
I know this will sound like I'm way off my rocker. I know I did when a friend
,{ several years ago } told me to just try it.. I would get killer cramps
after a 5-6 mile hike...I put a bar of soap--{ I think Caress ) {also use Irish
Spring } , some say ivory is best } under my bed sheet...Don't laugh---I have
not had a cramp at night ever since...I e-mailed my friends with the crazy idea
found that 3 of them do the same thing---one girl even carries a bar of soap
in her purse has one in her desk drawer to rub on her leg if she gets a cramp
during the day... I typed leg cramps soap did a search. It's all there
it works for me...Lois
CSRe: silver-digest Digest V2010 #843
Paul, who's developing a gag reflex: Are you drinking it straight? I usually add an ounce to a glass of water to take my other supplements with. Not good, but tolerable. Dick - Original Message - From: silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com To: silver-dig...@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, October 16, 2010 3:31 PM Subject: silver-digest Digest V2010 #843 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS: Liposomal encapsulating others
I have ordered Vitamin C powder and have received the buffered type by mistake. I think it has magnesium to neutralize the acid. A pound of it has less Vitamin C in it than a pound of ascorbic acid, because of the magnesium or other buffer. Therefore, it seems to me that you would need to use more than a tablespoon of the buffered to get the same amount of vitamin C as you do when using the ascorbic acid plus soda. A tablespoon of ascorbic acid has 12,000mg of vitamin C. How much buffered does it take to equal 12,000mg of C? Dick - Original Message - From: Jon To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, October 15, 2010 5:20 PM Subject: RE: CSCS: Liposomal encapsulating others Liposomal Ascorbic Acid can acidify your blood, which has a good chance of being fatal. It is playing Russian Roulette. The FDA would love for some of us to kill ourselves with liposomal vitamin C, so they can outlaw it. You have to add baking soda, or can can use pre-mixed Sodium Ascorbate. Since Sodium Ascorbate is dirt cheap, I do not understand why so many people are making their own with Ascorbic Acid plus baking soda. Sodium Ascorbate is $13.79 per pound at iHerb (cheaper than the bulk-size NOW Ascorbic Acid): http://www.iherb.com/NutriBiotic-Sodium-Ascorbate-Crystalline-Powder-16-oz-454-g/10178?at=0 It MIGHT be possible to use Calcium Ascorbate or Magnesium Ascorbate or some other ascorbate, but Sodium Ascorbate is the standard. If anyone knows for sure, please say something. From: Lisa blacksa...@comcast.net Sent: Friday, October 15, 2010 1:45 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSCS: Liposomal encapsulating others Is it necessary to add baking soda (sodium bicarbonate) to the LET (encapsulated lecithin and vit C)? My first batch I didn’t…
Re: CSLeg Cramps
Hi, Lois.
I did put a piece of Dove soap under my bed sheet and it helped. It was the
sliver that is left when you take it out of the shower. Maybe a whole bar would
work better, but I didn't want to keep banging my toes into it.
Thanks,
Dick
- Original Message -
From: zzekel...@aol.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Friday, October 15, 2010 6:01 PM
Subject: Re: CSLeg Cramps
Hi Dick,
I know you did not ask, but here is my experience anyway. I have
ongoing electrolyte issues and have found that potassium works better for my
leg cramps
I know this will sound like I'm way off my rocker. I know I did when a friend
,{ several years ago } told me to just try it.. I would get killer cramps
after a 5-6 mile hike...I put a bar of soap--{ I think Caress ) {also use Irish
Spring } , some say ivory is best } under my bed sheet...Don't laugh---I have
not had a cramp at night ever since...I e-mailed my friends with the crazy idea
found that 3 of them do the same thing---one girl even carries a bar of soap
in her purse has one in her desk drawer to rub on her leg if she gets a cramp
during the day... I typed leg cramps soap did a search. It's all there
it works for me...Lois
Re: CSCS: Liposomal encapsulating others
Hi, Jon. No, you misunderstood me. I dissolve magnesium chloride to drink as it is suppose to reduce blood pressure and leg cramps. So far it has not noticably done anything. Therefore, I was wanting to encapsulate it so it would go into the blood and cells without going through the stomach. It did not encapsulate, but stayed separate from the lecithin, so I dumped it. I have used Ascorbic acid, adding soda to neutralize it. Brooks suggested 3/4 tsp of soda dissolved in a couple ounces of water and added to the dissolved ascorbic acid. I checked the Ph after adding the soda and it was still well below 7, so last time I kept adding soda until the ascorbic acid was slightly above 7and didn't fizz anymore. I think I must have added maybe a Tbs of soda to neutralize the AA. Dick - Original Message - From: Jon To: Dick Rochon ; silver-list@eskimo.com ; Dan Nave Sent: Saturday, October 16, 2010 12:10 PM Subject: Re: CSCS: Liposomal encapsulating others Dick, You can check the product label to be sure (they are not all the same), but in general, Magnesium Ascorbate is about 87% ascorbic acid, Calcium Ascorbate is about 90% ascorbic acid, and Sodium Ascorbate is 89% ascorbic acid. This means you need to take about 15% extra. Some people add Sodium Ascorbate to the water until it is saturated and will no longer dissolve. I am not sure how much that is, but it should give you the maximum dose possible per gram of lecithin. Dan, You said that Calcium Ascorbate should NOT be used in place of Sodium Ascorbate for making liposomal vitamin C. Is this to prevent calcium overdose or for some other reason? Is it safe to use a small amount? And is it safe to use any amount of Magnesium Ascorbate, which is what Dick appears to have purchased. Also, can any amount of bioflavonoids be added? Thanks! --- On Fri, 10/15/10, Dick Rochon rrocho...@comcast.net wrote: From: Dick Rochon rrocho...@comcast.net Subject: Re: CSCS: Liposomal encapsulating others To: Jon p888p...@yahoo.com Cc: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Friday, October 15, 2010, 11:25 PM I have ordered Vitamin C powder and have received the buffered type by mistake. I think it has magnesium to neutralize the acid. A pound of it has less Vitamin C in it than a pound of ascorbic acid, because of the magnesium or other buffer. Therefore, it seems to me that you would need to use more than a tablespoon of the buffered to get the same amount of vitamin C as you do when using the ascorbic acid plus soda. A tablespoon of ascorbic acid has 12,000mg of vitamin C. How much buffered does it take to equal 12,000mg of C? Dick - Original Message - From: Jon To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, October 15, 2010 5:20 PM Subject: RE: CSCS: Liposomal encapsulating others Liposomal Ascorbic Acid can acidify your blood, which has a good chance of being fatal. It is playing Russian Roulette. The FDA would love for some of us to kill ourselves with liposomal vitamin C, so they can outlaw it. You have to add baking soda, or can can use pre-mixed Sodium Ascorbate. Since Sodium Ascorbate is dirt cheap, I do not understand why so many people are making their own with Ascorbic Acid plus baking soda. Sodium Ascorbate is $13.79 per pound at iHerb (cheaper than the bulk-size NOW Ascorbic Acid): http://www.iherb.com/NutriBiotic-Sodium-Ascorbate-Crystalline-Powder-16-oz-454-g/10178?at=0 It MIGHT be possible to use Calcium Ascorbate or Magnesium Ascorbate or some other ascorbate, but Sodium Ascorbate is the standard. If anyone knows for sure, please say something. From: Lisa blacksa...@comcast.net Sent: Friday, October 15, 2010 1:45 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSCS: Liposomal encapsulating others Is it necessary to add baking soda (sodium bicarbonate) to the LET (encapsulated lecithin and vit C)? My first batch I didn’t…
Re: CSCS: Liposomal encapsulating others
Maybe you can encapsulate coconut milk, but not sure about the oil. Just try it. I have the big Harbor Freight Ultrasonic jewelry cleaner, and let it run 480 seconds with Vit C and Glutathione. They work fine. I measured the Ph of the Vit C after adding the 3/4 tsp sodium bicarbonate, and it was still acidic, so I kept adding the soda until it read over 7. Not sure that is necessary, but it encapsulated ok. And the lecithin read about 7 before and after adding the Vit C. I tried encapsulating magnesium chloride, but it didn't work. I am taking the magnesium chloride for hypertension and leg cramps, and am wondering if it would be more effective if it was encapsulated and went directly into the blood and cells where needed instead of through the digestive system. Any comments or suggestions would be appreciated. Dick - Original Message - From: paul catania To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, October 15, 2010 9:28 AM Subject: Re: CSCS: Liposomal encapsulating others Does anyone have any idea how one would go about encapsulating Virgin Coconut Oil? Paul - Original Message - From: Harold MacDonald To: Silver list Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2010 7:24 PM Subject: CSCS: Liposomal encapsulating others So far I have encapsulated Vit.C as Sodium ascorbate OK. And L-Glutathione too.I am of the mind that whatever you want to encapsulate , should dissolve wholly in Distilled water ,not just float around.This is my feeling on it,I may well be wrong.Also I would not use just any water,ie,tap,etc as this is going to by-pass the normal gastric controls and go directly to the cells.If there are impurities in the raw water,it may well end up in the cells doing who knows what kind of damage. I would not risk it myself. For Serrapeptase to be effective it may have to be some-what processed in the digestive system to a certain degree. I am using it now just as a regular supplement and so far am satisfied with the results. Harold I am using the Free version of SPAMfighter. SPAMfighter has removed 13 of my spam emails to date. Do you have a slow PC? Try free scan!
Re: CSCS: Liposomal encapsulating others
The magnesium chloride I want to encapsulate is flakes or crystals. I dissolve it with water to take, so there are no cellulose or other fillers like there would be if I was powdering pills or emptying capsuls. Dick - Original Message - From: needling around To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, October 15, 2010 1:36 PM Subject: Re: CSCS: Liposomal encapsulating others One thing I would be concerned about are the other things in the compound you are trying to encapsulate that you might not want to enter your blood stream directly. Things like cellulose and other fillers and anti-caking agents. PT - Original Message - From: Dick Rochon To: paul catania Cc: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, October 15, 2010 3:59 PM Subject: Re: CSCS: Liposomal encapsulating others Maybe you can encapsulate coconut milk, but not sure about the oil. Just try it. I have the big Harbor Freight Ultrasonic jewelry cleaner, and let it run 480 seconds with Vit C and Glutathione. They work fine. I measured the Ph of the Vit C after adding the 3/4 tsp sodium bicarbonate, and it was still acidic, so I kept adding the soda until it read over 7. Not sure that is necessary, but it encapsulated ok. And the lecithin read about 7 before and after adding the Vit C. I tried encapsulating magnesium chloride, but it didn't work. I am taking the magnesium chloride for hypertension and leg cramps, and am wondering if it would be more effective if it was encapsulated and went directly into the blood and cells where needed instead of through the digestive system. Any comments or suggestions would be appreciated. Dick - Original Message - From: paul catania To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, October 15, 2010 9:28 AM Subject: Re: CSCS: Liposomal encapsulating others Does anyone have any idea how one would go about encapsulating Virgin Coconut Oil? Paul - Original Message - From: Harold MacDonald To: Silver list Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2010 7:24 PM Subject: CSCS: Liposomal encapsulating others So far I have encapsulated Vit.C as Sodium ascorbate OK. And L-Glutathione too.I am of the mind that whatever you want to encapsulate , should dissolve wholly in Distilled water ,not just float around.This is my feeling on it,I may well be wrong.Also I would not use just any water,ie,tap,etc as this is going to by-pass the normal gastric controls and go directly to the cells.If there are impurities in the raw water,it may well end up in the cells doing who knows what kind of damage. I would not risk it myself. For Serrapeptase to be effective it may have to be some-what processed in the digestive system to a certain degree. I am using it now just as a regular supplement and so far am satisfied with the results. Harold I am using the Free version of SPAMfighter. SPAMfighter has removed 13 of my spam emails to date. Do you have a slow PC? Try free scan!
Re: CSDMSO killing nerves
Also, before prednisone DMSO was administered for serious head injuries to keep the brain from swelling in the skull. It worked and did not have the serious side effects of the steroids, but they are more profitable. Dick - Original Message - From: Saralou slped...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2010 1:30 PM Subject: Re: CSDMSO killing nerves Given that DMSO is used as part of the solution for preservation/transport for organs to be transplanted, I'd be very surprised if nerve damage is an issue. More likely (--read Stan Jacobs material!--he's a researcher!) pain relief has to do with changing the permeability of cell membrane. When you also consider how often it's used on athletic injuries, I'd be surprised if nerve damage is a factor. Ask your doc if his info is published or verified anyplace--like sports meds or vet meds or with cystitis or with transplant technology. Consider reading the articles at Jacob's site if you haven't read Morton's book. Then you have a way to judge what DMSO naysayers come up with. About 169,000 results (0.21 seconds) Search Results 1. /DMSO/: Many Uses, Much Controversy http://www.google.com/url?sa=tsource=webcd=1ved=0CCUQFjAAurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.dmso.org%2Farticles%2Finformation%2Fmuir.htmrct=jq=DMSO%20%22Pain%20relief%22ei=1M-wTMekMdX-ngeGsvCoBgusg=AFQjCNG4uNhcj7tyVItjRoUfaj9NA6-UIQcad=rja Dr. Stanley Jacob, the father of /DMSO/ offers information *...* The history of /DMSO/ as a pharmaceutical began in 1961, when Dr. Jacob was head of the organ *...* www.*dmso*.org/articles/information/muir.htm - Cached http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:0ILfIxzpDgQJ:www.dmso.org/articles/information/muir.htm+DMSO+%22Pain+relief%22cd=1hl=enct=clnkgl=us - Similar http://www.google.com/search?hl=enq=related:www.dmso.org/articles/information/muir.htm+DMSO+%22Pain+relief%22tbo=1sa=Xei=1M-wTMekMdX-ngeGsvCoBgved=0CCgQHzAA 2. /DMSO/ for /Pain Relief/ and Swelling? [102] | Supplements, OTC Meds http://www.google.com/url?sa=tsource=webcd=2ved=0CCkQFjABurl=http%3A%2F%2Fsportsmedinfo.net%2Fpainmeds-supplements%2F48-otc-supplements%2F102-dmso-for-pain-relief-and-swellingrct=jq=DMSO%20%22Pain%20relief%22ei=1M-wTMekMdX-ngeGsvCoBgusg=AFQjCNHwDIkLjwzrmOa0tluqoQdWoxBlpAcad=rja This is a review of /DMSO/ for /pain relief/ of sprains, muscle pulls and bruises and sports injuries. /DMSO/ MSM is methylsulfonylmethane. sportsmedinfo.net/.../48-otc.../102-*dmso*-for-*pain-relief*-and-swelling - Cached http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:98jMeRHpHl4J:sportsmedinfo.net/painmeds-supplements/48-otc-supplements/102-dmso-for-pain-relief-and-swelling+DMSO+%22Pain+relief%22cd=2hl=enct=clnkgl=us On 10/9/2010 2:39 PM, brick...@aol.com wrote: I told my foot DR that I was taking a sublingual B12 crushing it add DMSO then rubbing it on my hip. Four parameters on my last blood test all showed large blood cells. I also take folic acid daily. I took Prilosec for years that is noted for causing large blood cells. He said that a DR at his school researched DMSO and concluded that pain relief was due to DMSO killing nerves. He said don't let DMSO even come near you. I also use Brooks formula EIS/DMSO/Glycerine on my TKR surgery. 12 weeks post surgery and still have a scar. I also use DMSO/EIS with my sinus wash and tooth brush. Any reports of nerve damage caused by using DMSO? Brickey -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
CSplantar fasciatis
Hi, Bob. Did the oil of cloves speed the healing of the torn ligament, or just relieve the pain? Stretching the toes toward the shin for awhile relieves my pain, but does nothing to heal the problem. Four hundred dollars for doctor, custom orthotics, new shoes, etc., has relieved the pain, but has not yet healed the ligament. Dick GOOD MORNING, WELCOME TO THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. Press 1 if you speak English. Press '2' to disconnect until you can
CSRe: silver-digest Digest V2010 #826
If DMSO kills nerves it is the first bad side effect that has been found, other than bad breath. Oh yes, and it also depletes the profits of the pharmaceutic industry. Dick - Original Message - From: silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com To: silver-dig...@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2010 11:40 AM Subject: silver-digest Digest V2010 #826 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRe: Question Please
Melly, My silver wires are 5/8 apart about 8 long. Also, if you tape a 1 x 8 black strip of paper on the side of the jar and shine a light on it it circulates the solution while making the CS. Supposedly makes smaller particles of silver, so it is more effective. Dick - Original Message - From: Melly Bag To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2010 7:08 AM Subject: CSRe: Question Please Mike, Sorry, i forgot to change the subject of the previous post i made. Below is my question: How far should the silver electrodes be from the walls of the glass bottle? How far should it be apart from each other? And how far should it be from the bottom? I've been making mud brews which of course i can't drink out of fear so i just use it to wash veggies. Many thanks. Melly --- On Tue, 10/5/10, silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com wrote: From: silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com Subject: silver-digest Digest V2010 #817 To: silver-dig...@eskimo.com Date: Tuesday, October 5, 2010, 8:49 AM
CSRe: Another Question Re: Magnetized Water
I am wondering if you make magnetized water in a blender with tap water (we don't have flouride) if you need to add the celtic salt? I know it does add more minerals, but is it necessary for the magnetization? How would the salt affect seeds if you wanted to test them with tap water vs magnetized water? Dick -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=subscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CShelp re cholesterol
Yes, cholestrol plaque is deposited on the blood vessels where there is a weak or damaged spot. That's why british sailors were called limeys, because they found that eating limes when they were at sea for months at a time prevented them from getting scurvy, a vitamin C deficiency disease that caused them to bleed internally and die. Collagen is necessary to build strong, healthy cells, and without enough vitamin C you cannot develop collagen. If your blood vessels are getting plugged it is because you are vitamin C deficient, and a 500mg pill a day is barely enough to do the job. Lecithin will dissolve plaque, but until you heal the damaged blood vessels you need the plaque. Does this ring a bell? Linus Pauling and his associate MD used this combination to successfully treat cardiovascular disease. And now with Liposomal encapsulated vitamin C it goes directly into the blood system without being digested in the stomach. Dick - Original Message - From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2010 8:30 AM Subject: Re: CShelp re cholesterol Absolutely. Marshall On 10/4/2010 7:54 PM, Deborah Gerard wrote: Marcshall, If takeing low level anti-biotic's would lower inflamation wouldn't CS do the same job maybe? thanks Deb *From:* Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com *Sent:* Mon, October 4, 2010 3:15:04 PM *Subject:* Re: CShelp re cholesterol I concur with that completely. Cholesterol being deposited in the veins is not due to high cholesterol but to inflammation of the veins. That is why research has found that anti-inflammation agents such as aspirin, and low level antibiotics reduce this problem. The correct answer is to remove the inflammation, not remove the stuff to try and reduce it. If you get rid of the inflammation and take some serrapeptase your veins will be as clean as a new born babe in a month. Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSVORTEX BLENDER EXPERIMENT TO STRUCTURE WATER
Thanks Renee for your prompt reply. Peter's water magnetizer shown on www.biomagscience.net is stable, I mean not vortexed. Don't know whether that makes any difference, but otherwise why blender or vortex it? And if spinning it is more effective maybe it stays stabalized longer than 12 hours. Anyone? Dick - Original Message - From: Renee To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, October 01, 2010 9:48 PM Subject: Re: CSVORTEX BLENDER EXPERIMENT TO STRUCTURE WATER According to Peter Kulish, magnet expert at www.biomagscience.net magnetized water will stay magnetized for 12 hours, as it slowly reverts back to the natural magnetic spin of the earth. I have no idea if the vortex changes this. We (Peter and I) talked of this 12 hour period when discussing water run past a magnet on a faucet or my Berkey filter. Samala, Renee ---Original Message--- Oh, I remember what I wanted to ask the group. After structuring the water, or wine, with the blender or vortex, how long does it stay magnetized? Can I keep it for days, or weeks, or should it be used the same day?
Re: CSVORTEX BLENDER EXPERIMENT TO STRUCTURE WATER
Hi, Paul, Brooks, and all: I have modified my blender with the 16 little magnets, as pictured in the Amazing Magnetic Blender as pictured on www.quantumbalancing.com/magnetic_blender.htm, and I have also received the order of the vortex bottle connectors from www.teachersource.com. I taped two 3/4x1/2 neo magnets to the connector with positive and negative poles, on opposite sides, facing each other. Assuming that Dr. Ron Cusson designed and published the photo and description of the blender, I emailed him with some questions. He replied that he no longer supported the blender design, as he now offered a much stronger design. He also said that the vortex connector is a much less powerful unit than the blender. I have made magnetized/structured (are these different words for the same thing?) water and wine with both designs and cannot tell any difference in the taste between the unstructured and structured, or between the blender and vortex. Whoever it was that published the blender design said that with the blender magnetized water he quickly got a noticable high, and his joint pains disappeared and never came back. Also he noticed that with the wine the effects of the alcohol was increased. None of these effects were noticed when I drank them. (My wife has often said that I am insensitive.) Nonetheless, how do we know that there is any difference between magnetized/structured water or wine than straight out of the tap or bottle? Have I wasted time and money, or are there tests other than taste and feelings that can be used? I guess I could drink it for a lifetime and see if I live longer than I would have. I am already long past the average life expectancy of a male caucasian. Any comments, suggestions or constructive criticisms? Dick Dick - Original Message - From: paul catania squigg...@embarqmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, October 01, 2010 9:22 AM Subject: CSVORTEX BLENDER EXPERIMENT TO STRUCTURE WATER Dear Brooks and group, For all those who were interested in my vortex blender experiment to structure water, I want to tell you about a few changes I've made. I thought a lot about how to mimic nature with all of her streams and creeks, in a blender, and this is the only solution I've been able to come up with so far. I wanted an inexpensive way to suspend some rocks in the blender so that they would take part in vortex that is created, so I took a trip to the 99cent store, and wound purchasing a 100 percent cotton doily, about 10 inches in diameter. I bought an off white one so as to minimize the chances of there being any dye in it. It has a somewhat large enough fishnet-like weave, to allow the water to freely flow through it, and yet is small enough to contain a few of the rocks I also purchased in the store. After thoroughly washing everything, I placed about 5 or 6 of the larger rocks in the center of the doily, and then connected all the outer points together with one of those little plastic straps that are used to hold things in place. I then filled the receptacle with water, about 3/4 of the way to the top. Most blenders, and mine, have a plastic insert on top, to allow for the adding of ingredients during the blending. I inserted the top of the doily bag through this insert, and secured it with a wooden dowel or wooden spoon. Then I just turned it on (at first, I SLOWLY PULSED, to make sure nothing was going to hit). That's it. Notes: 1) Any heavy cotton, fishnet-like fabric will do, but make sure that it will contain all of the rocks, and not let one slip out when it gets wet and stretches a little (as it will). 2) Wash and rinse your fabric thoroughly to make sure there are no chemicals or dyes in it. I used soap and water, rinsed a few times, and then let it soak in an MMS solution. 3) Suspend the rocks in the fabric above the halfway point in the receptacle, because the bag will come down a bit when it gets wet, due to the heavy weight of the rocks. 4) I bought a bag rocks in the 99cent store, just to speed up things, but I think that a few rocks that are personally collected by you, from around your neighborhood, would be best. Naturally, I would also wash the rocks to clean off any chemicals, debris, dirt, moss etc. If anyone is interested, I will TRY and take some pictures tomorrow and post them. Paul Catania -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSVORTEX BLENDER EXPERIMENT TO STRUCTURE WATER
Oh, I remember what I wanted to ask the group. After structuring the water, or wine, with the blender or vortex, how long does it stay magnetized? Can I keep it for days, or weeks, or should it be used the same day? NEXT topic: Also, I am making encapsulated magnesium chloride like LET C. When I measured the Ph of the MgCl it was 7.3, so I did not add the soda. However, after adding it to the lecithin I read the Ph and it was 6.6., so obviously the lecithin is acidic. Should it be neutralized with soda before adding the MgCl? And if that is true with MgCl, it must be true after adding soda to vitamin C, and adding the C to the lecithin. So is it important that the lecithin be neutralized before encapsulating in the ultrasonic jewelry cleaner? NOTE: I'm glad I didn't send that. I just finished Magnesium Chloride 480 seconds in the US cleaner and it foamed up in a stiff meringue and the liquid is clear, not milky like with vitamin C or Glutathione. What happened? Dick - Original Message - From: paul catania squigg...@embarqmail.com To: Dick Rochon rrocho...@comcast.net Sent: Friday, October 01, 2010 12:08 PM Subject: Re: CSVORTEX BLENDER EXPERIMENT TO STRUCTURE WATER Hi Dick, I posted the following on another group this morning and I think you could do the same, by watering control plants with whatever water you wish to test. (not the wine though) :o) my message... I live in Las Vegas. Not too many springs and hardly any rain. But I am going to (today) order one of those photonic structured water devices. I will then be starting with at least a somewhat better quality of water, and will do some experimenting with plants fed with 1) plain tap water from a friends house, 2) plain tap water run through the photonic structured water device in my house, and 3) both of those waters after running them through my blender device. I figure that my body should somewhat react the same way as the plants do, so I'm looking forward to the experiment. Paul - Original Message - From: Dick Rochon rrocho...@comcast.net To: paul catania squigg...@embarqmail.com Cc: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, October 01, 2010 11:57 AM Subject: Re: CSVORTEX BLENDER EXPERIMENT TO STRUCTURE WATER Hi, Paul, Brooks, and all: I have modified my blender with the 16 little magnets, as pictured in the Amazing Magnetic Blender as pictured on www.quantumbalancing.com/magnetic_blender.htm, and I have also received the order of the vortex bottle connectors from www.teachersource.com. I taped two 3/4x1/2 neo magnets to the connector with positive and negative poles, on opposite sides, facing each other. Assuming that Dr. Ron Cusson designed and published the photo and description of the blender, I emailed him with some questions. He replied that he no longer supported the blender design, as he now offered a much stronger design. He also said that the vortex connector is a much less powerful unit than the blender. I have made magnetized/structured (are these different words for the same thing?) water and wine with both designs and cannot tell any difference in the taste between the unstructured and structured, or between the blender and vortex. Whoever it was that published the blender design said that with the blender magnetized water he quickly got a noticable high, and his joint pains disappeared and never came back. Also he noticed that with the wine the effects of the alcohol was increased. None of these effects were noticed when I drank them. (My wife has often said that I am insensitive.) Nonetheless, how do we know that there is any difference between magnetized/structured water or wine than straight out of the tap or bottle? Have I wasted time and money, or are there tests other than taste and feelings that can be used? I guess I could drink it for a lifetime and see if I live longer than I would have. I am already long past the average life expectancy of a male caucasian. Any comments, suggestions or constructive criticisms? Dick
CSMagnetic vortex, etc.
PT, If you look at the pictures on the links I included in my post you will see the magnets and where they are placed. On the blender you will see the marks on the magnets. On the Vortex they would be alternated, positive and negative. They use 6 magnets. Dick - Original Message - From: silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com To: silver-dig...@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 12:24 AM Subject: silver-digest Digest V2010 #783 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRe:STRUCTURED VORTEX WATER DEVICES
What effects have been noticed by magnetizing colloidal silver in a structured vortex device? Adding hydrogen peroxide to CS is suppose to increase the effectiveness of CS up to 300% by reducing the particle size. How would you know that magnetizing or structuring it made it more effective? Dick - Original Message - From: Brooks Bradley bradlebro...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, September 20, 2010 8:02 PM Subject: Re: CSRe:STRUCTURED VORTEX WATER DEVICES Dear Paul, It is encouraging to observe list researchers...such as yourself.experimenting with existing devices in an effort to obtain devices superior to what the market customarily offers. Since we have not attempted to use materials generated from circulating water structuring material in a confined container---I cannot offer useful comment on the efficacy of such an approach. All of our material has been produced via a one-pass arrangement wherein the subject material is exposed to both a magnetic field and vortex formation.simultaneously.one-time only. My principal concern for using any form of standing-wave vortex would be possible destabilizing effects occurring because of possible non-laminar flow manifesting as a result of chaotic mixing at the bottom of the vortex. The question becomes, What is the actual effect of continuous re-introductionfrom the centrifugal discharge at the bottom vortex section of the liquid components? I have no real idea. It would, indeed, be interesting to determine if one could be reinforcing the structuring phenomenon, or continually disrupting the structuring processthrough the use of such a device as your modified blender? My apologies for being unable to assist you further in this, particular, matter. Sincerely, Brooks Bradley. On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 6:49 PM, paul catania squigg...@embarqmail.com wrote: Dear Brooks and group, I don't know what the inside of a vitalizer plus looks like, but after reading your suggestions, I started to play around with an old blender of mine. I took out the bottom criss-crossed blade assembly, and with a pair of pliers, made the cross shaped blades parallel so that both blades were one on top of another, facing in the same direction. I then tried to bend the ends of each up as far as I could, so as to end up with two U shaped blades, one slightly bigger than the other, on top of each other, facing in the same direction. Filling the container up with water, placing the blender on the low setting, and pulsing the lowest speed button, produces a nice little vortex. I also placed a heavy rubber band on the outside of the receptacle to hold two of Peter Kulish's magnets, 180 degrees apart from each other. According to your research, Brooks, can this be a valid method of producing structured water? Can I use plain tap water with a pinch of Himalayan sea salt? How can I measure the quality, or lack thereof, of the water produced? Thanks, Paul - Original Message - From: Brooks Bradley bradlebro...@gmail.com To: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 2:11 PM Subject: Re: SOSTRUCTURED VORTEX WATER DEVICES Dear Paul, About 15 years ago, inspired by the works of Walter Schaubergerwe investigated (extensively) a number of various means for structuring ordinary tap-water. By structuring, I mean modifying the micro-particle spectrum of what is, sometimes, referred to as the crystal-structure of water. Briefly, the theory is to modify the alignment of the atomic/sub-atomic particle structure of waterfrom a random/chaotic...to an arranged linear relationship. We employed a number of different approaches, including charged electrical fields; chemically-seeded catalyst solutions and various vortex-based approaches. Some success was achieved from most of the approaches. However, the most cost-effective...by far.proved to be a simple permanent-magnet X physical vortex generation systemavailable to the DIY person-for several dollars. The theory-of-operation is simply to expose a liquid experiencing a vortex geometry...to a relatively-high, fixed magnetic field. The most operationally acceptable, cost-limiting system we were able to facilitate consisted of two 2 liter soft-drink bottles (connected to-to-top), with the top bottle having two strong rare-earth or neodymium magnets taped in a 180 degree relation, as close to the bottle mouth as physically acceptable. One physical modification was employed on the top bottle. The modification was to cut the bottom (which becomes the top) of the upper bottomoff, to form a funnel of desired size. It makes no difference which magnet has its N or S pole facing inso long as the OTHER magnet has the opposite pole facing the first magnet. In our initial experiments, we,simply, placed the TOP section facing down (neck with magnets
CSVortex magnetizer, etc.
Hi, Brooks and all, Dr. Ron Cusson said that the amazing magnetic blender http://www.quantumbalancing.com/magnetic_blender.htm., was much stronger than the amazing vortex magnetizer http://www.quantumbalancing.com/vortex_magnetizer.htm. And he said that he was no longer offering support on either, because they had developed a much stronger magnetizer, or structured water device which they were marketing. I have purchased the little magnets to build the blender device, and have ordered the screw on caps to connect the two plastic bottles for the vortex magnetizers, but have not put either together yet. I am curious to know if there will really be a difference in the taste and effects of magnetized water or wine. Of course, the aeration of the wine would change the smoothness and taste of red wine, because they say that red wine should always be swirled in the glass before drinking. In the explanation of the amazing magnetic blender the author (whoever wrote it) said that their joint pain disappeared after drinking their first batch of magnetized water. Has anyone else reported any results like this? Is there any way to tell that there is a difference between magnetized water and plain, unmagnetized water, other than occasional anecdotal reports? I mean does everyone notice the same results, or only a percentage of users? Placebo does account for up to 30%, or more, of pain relief and healing. In fact, when my son attended his first lecture in pharmacy school the professor stated that the human body (or mind) could heal anything that pharmaceuticals could heal. (Maybe Rx are not designed to heal or cure, but just to relieve symptoms while using them) If they cured you wouldn't need to continue buying them. Dick
CSRe: silver-digest Digest V2010 #591
I just received an email from Dr. Levy in reply to a question I asked him about lecithin and vitamin C. He said that he doubted my jewelry cleaner would encapsulate Vitamin C, as is necessary to receive the benefits. Who devised the procedure of using the jewelry cleaner, and what assurance is there that it is actually encapsulating the vitamin C? It tastes bad, so it must be good. Right? Dick -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe: silver-digest Digest V2010 #592
Combining Vitamin C with lecithin, to encapsulate it, so it will not be digested in the stomach, but will pass through to the small intestine to be directly absorbed by the blood, is said to make it as effective, or maybe even more effective, than intravenously. Anyone know how much should be taken for maintaining good health? Obviously you would need much more to stop an infection or toxin. And would this be the same for other supplements? What about magnesium chloride, for example? Could this cause an overdose? Dick - Original Message - From: silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com To: silver-dig...@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2010 7:23 AM Subject: silver-digest Digest V2010 #592 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
CSSilver List, or what?
Is this a silver list, or what? I see every kind of post imaginable, but seldom one on Colloidal Silver, and reports of successful usage. Is anyone monitoring this list? I'm am thinking that the silver people have gone somewhere else. A week, or more, I postd a question about brown CS, but not one answer? Disappointed, Dick -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
CSDark CS?
Hi, About a month ago I made CS with 1 gallon of distilled water, . silver wire, 30 volts DC, and an aquarium bubbler, with 1/2 cup previously made CS (made the same way). Ran for a few hours to 9ppm. I went to get some from the gallon jug under the counter (dark place) the other day, and it was a dark yellow. I have never had this happen before. Anyone have any ideas? Dick -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
CSCS and H2O2 Questions
Anyone, I have been reading that adding a small amount of 3% drugstore peroxide to CS will reduce the particle size greatly and increase the benefits of the CS. 1. How much peroxide to how much CS? 2. What evidence is there that the particle size is reduced? 3. What evidence is there that it is more effective or beneficial? Any information will be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Dick
CSVideo on using CS
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lIPoTyZDL10
Re: CS.we don't KNOW what would have happened had we NOT taken CS.
The Italian oncologist, Dr. Simoncini, (watch on Youtube) was curing lung cancer by using baking soda. He claims that cancer is a fungus, and his videos show the cancer turning back pink again and going away. He was curing stage 4 cancers until they took his licence away. A serious danger to the cancer industry. If he is correct that cancer is a fungus, and soda will kill it, then it should also kill black mold, which certainly is a fungus also. If I had it I would dilute baking soda in water and use a nebulizer to breath it. By the way, I used a solution of dissolved baking soda and DMSO, 50/50, about twice a day for a month, on a brown mole that was turning black and bleeding, and it totally disappeared. Never had it looked at or diagnosed, so cannot claim it was cancer. Dick - Original Message - From: kmartjo...@aol.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, January 01, 2010 11:06 AM Subject: Fwd: CS.we don't KNOW what would have happened had we NOT taken CS. IAspergillosis is an incurable disease of the lungs caused by fungal Aspergillus. It is treated using compounds called azoles but researchers at The University of Manchester have found that the fungus has been able to mutate making treatment ineffective. The research, published in the prestigious US journal Emerging Infectious Diseases, showed that 13 out of 14 affected patients recently treated by the team did not respond to therapy and that numerous mutations were responsible. From: chube...@yahoo.com Reply-to: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: 1/1/2010 12:43:29 P.M. Central Standard Time Subj: Re: CS.we donapos;t KNOW what would have happened had we NOT taken CS. fungal_disease.pdf
CSTo Peter Converse
Hi, Peter. I tried replying directly to your email, but it was rejected. I took a small amount of water and dissolved the soda in it until no more would dissolve (supersaturated), let it settle and poured off the clear liquid. Then I mixed it with an equal amount of DMSO. Soda precipitated again in the container, so I just used the clear liquid. I applied this twice a day with an eye dropper and patted it in with my finger, so it didn't drip or run down my face. As time went on I noticed the mole returning to its original brown color, and after about a month it was gone. Actually, I did it for about two weeks and stopped. It started to change to black again, so I began the treatment again and this time I continued for another month until it disappeared. As I said, I did not have it diagnosed as cancer, so I can't say for sure that it was. And I never had a diagnosed skin cancer, or even saw one, but from what I have heard this mole was not good. It was an irregular shape and it started changing color, and even bled once when I accidently scratched it. So, I believe it was. Regards, Dick
CSEIS ??
So, let me make sure I have this straight. To make EIS you add one part of 3% hydrogen peroxide to 1,000 parts of colloidal silver, then you combine this with equal parts of DMSO. Is that all there is to it? And is this for external or internal use, or both? And if using it internally, how much would you consume daily? And could it be used with a nebulizer for lung problems? Thanks, Dick
CSQuestion
Sorry. What is EIS?
CSmoles
Rowena, I had a brown, odd shaped mole for years, maybe all my life, on my temple. It started turning black on one side, and it bled once. They say that's not good. I dissolved baking soda in a tsp of water and added a tsp of dmso to it. I applied it to the mole and after a couple weeks it turned brown again, and in another couple weeks I couldn't even see where the mole had been. Don't know if it was cancer, but its gone now, so it doesn't matter. Give it a try. Dick
CSlecithin and vit C
Is this the list I got the information about using an ultrasound jewelery cleaner to encapsulate vitamin C in lecithin? If so, maybe someone can help me. I have been using a lecithin that was coarse looking in small granules. When I reordered granulated it came much finer, almost a powder. I made some today by dissolving the lecithin in one cup of hot water and shaking it. Same with the vit C in 1/2 cup hot water. After vibrating it in the ultrasound device for 480 seconds the lecithin was in a number of gummy pieces and the liquid was not as milky as it had been. I did stir it while vibrating 3 or 4 times. Previously, it had been very white or creamy looking with a small amount of uncombined lecithin on the bottom. I would shake it before using and it mixed in well. When I poured it today, out of the mixer, lots of the lumps of uncombined lecithin flopped out. Any help? Thanks Dick
CSkidney stones
My grandson developed kidney stones when he was put in a full cast after falling off a cliff. They were going to go in to remove them in a week. While he waited his father made tea by boiling bunches of parsley he bough at the grocery store, and he sipped on it all day long while he waited for surgery. He began peeing gravel and when he went in for the surgery, the doctors said they couldn't find any stones. I have also read that canned asparagus, slurried in a food processor with some water and drank 3 or 4 times a day also dissolved kidney stones. Worth a try. Dick
CSLET?
Why can I not get an answer to my questions about the ascorbic acid and lecethin concoction (LET), that was posted on this group? Brooks Bradley posted it originally, but he has not answered either. Richard Rochon
Re: CSLET?
I said that as the formula is written there is 12 grams of ascorbic acid in 12 ounces of water, so an ounce of the liquid would contain 1gram of vit C, which according to the claim is 5 times as effective as plain Vit C., and almost as effective as intravenously. My question was, how much should I take, and why does it taste so bad? Dick - Original Message - From: Donna dscroggs44...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2009 3:04 PM Subject: Re: CSLET? What was the question as I didn't see it? Donna ACS Why can I not get an answer to my questions about the ascorbic acid and lecethin concoction (LET), that was posted on this group? Brooks Bradley posted it originally, but he has not answered either. Richard Rochon -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSFed handling of dietary supplement Ephedra
Well, Hyland's Hay Fever remedy surely worked for me, and those I offered it to. Traditional (Orthdox) homeopaths do not believe in using combination remedies, but in only using those individual remedies that work on the constitution to correct something that isn't working right. (I think.) I'm sure that there is a better explanation, but my point is to use what works for you. They are cheap, often effective and have no side effects. Certainly worth a try. If they didn't work on a majority of users they could not continue to offer them. Unless you want to believe that its all just placebo effect. (They work on animals too, but maybe that's because the owner believes it will.) Dick - Original Message - From: C Creel ccr...@adelphia.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2003 11:44 AM Subject: Re: CSFed handling of dietary supplement Ephedra People with allergies like hay fever, etc., should try homeopathic remedies. They are very effective and have no side effects, like dryness, drowsiness, etc. There are various formulations, so asking the clerk at a health food store might be useful. Dean said: None of the homeopathics I've tried have ever worked for me. Perhaps someone could provide a list, because I'm sure I haven't tried all of them. ** Those for whom they work in this way just got lucky, Dean. There are a couple of hundred homeopathic remedies that could be useful for allergies. Only a person highly skilled in homeopathy stands a good chance of finding the appropriate one for any given person. In many cases, the remedy for allergies is also a person'd constitutional remedy. A constitutional remedy is a foundational remedy that addresses a number of underlying weaknesses at the core of one's constitution. If you really are interested in addressing allergies this way, get thee to a homeopath. The proper remedy in the proper doses is crucial to success in addressing this. The formulas found and recommended in natural food stores are being presented from an allopathic mindset. This is counter to the entire homeopathic philosophy. Regards, Catherine -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSFed handling of dietary supplement Ephedra
People with allergies like hay fever, etc., should try homeopathic remedies. They are very effective and have no side effects, like dryness, drowsiness, etc. There are various formulations, so asking the clerk at a health food store might be useful. Dick - Original Message - From: Sara Joy sara...@mobil1.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2003 6:40 AM Subject: Re: CSFed handling of dietary supplement Ephedra Is there a difference between the herb ephedrine and the synthesized chemical ephedrine..as in the analog chemical pseudo-ephedrine used for cold pills ..by big bucks 'over the counter' interests who are always trying to get drugs approved so you don't have to get an expensive prescription from the big bucks medical establishment? [and sold 'as' methamphetamine by unscuplulous dealers to people who don't know the difference between a cold pill, meth, caffine pills and any other form of stimulant] Here in SEK there are tons of little meth labs out in the rural areas. They actually use the pseudophed tablets as part of the base of the meth, mixed with various chemicals into a soup that is then crystalized into meth. So they don't sell the cold pills instead of meth, they use them in producing meth. Its one of the main ingredients. Thats why those of us with legitimate allergic type need for pseudophed, or its cheaper copycat versions, can only buy 24 or so at a time now - which I often go through in 4 days, and is much more expensive than when I used to be able to buy a bottle of 96 or more of them. Frustrating. Plus, you have to buy it at the pharmacy window - its not on the shelves, so you have to stand in line for fifteen minutes or so to get the stuff. And if you're back within a week, which i am during allergy season, they look at you real funny and ask questions. Groan. Joy -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSWater filtration systems
Possibly you are talking about Kenmore water distillers instead of filtration systems? I posted the inquiry about them and someone answered that they had used one to make distilled water for making CS for a number of years and were completely satisfied with it. At $1 a gallon at the store, one would have to make over 100 gallons of DW to pay for the machine, less the cost of the electricity. That's assuming that you could get one for $100, and that the store DW was as good quality. So, I guess it depends on how much DW you go through, and how correct your assumptions are. Dick - Original Message - From: oliver4i...@aol.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, August 22, 2003 10:11 AM Subject: CSWater filtration systems I'm sorry, I am coming in the middle/end of this thread, but since you are talking about water filtration systems, which I know bupkiss about, I'm soliciting opinions on the best/very good at reasonable prices. I was looking at the Kenmore (someone brought this product up in another email) for about $129 new at Sears, but on Ebay probably can get it for under $100. Can anyone suggest three good options? One for under $100, one approximately $150, and one for up to $200. Pros and cons, ease of use, frequency of supplies and costs involved, etc. Thank so much! Shizua Oliver, Washington DC Doggies: Dru, Cookie, Spike Kitties: Megalito Tequila What doesn't kill you makes you stronger
Re: CSFed handling of dietary supplement Ephedra
Ephedra supplements have caused less than 25 reported deaths, ever! Aspirin causes hundreds, or more, every year. The Pharm industry is using this to get the FDA to put more controls on the supplements and herbals that seriously cut into their profits. The aim, of course, is to get all herbal and supplement products off the market, and only be available by prescription, in small doses. This has been done in Australia and European countries. If it happens here you can kiss goodbye your option to cure disease with alternative means. No more Linus Pauling therapy with Vitamin C and common amino acids that cured patients with terminal cancer and cardio vascular disease that needed heart bypass operations. No more Graviola, saw palmetto or Lycopene to cure prostate cancer. No more niacin to reduce cholestrol without statin drugs with dangerous side effects. Etc., etc. etc. Dick - Original Message - From: jrowl...@nctimes.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, August 22, 2003 2:56 AM Subject: CSFed handling of dietary supplement Ephedra C-SPAN2 has been carrying the House Energy Commerce Sub-committee on Dietary Supplement Ephedra, revealing devastating consequences (like death) from its use. Quite instructive on how big bucks has allowed deleterious supplements to remain on the market. Metabolife, another local company (San Diego), was started by a former convicted meth dealer and knows who's palms need greasing to stay in business. Even has a former mayor hawking its product on his #1-rated afternoon radio program. ... In his meth lab days Ellis had used ephedrine to make speed, today he uses it to make dietary supplements in a more than $600 million industry... http://www.anephedraattorneyforyou.com/html/fda.html He, and other principals being investigated, are claiming 5th Amendment rights. High drama here. jr -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSFed handling of dietary supplement Ephedra
You are probably right. I was working from memory, which ain't as good as it use to be, but my figures on aspirin was way off too. It was 68,000 a year killed and 200,000 hospitalized. So, it doesn't change my point any. If they are actually trying to save peoples' lives, why fool around with ephedra, go after the big killers. The point is, all the news hype about ephedra and the silence about aspirin is for p-r-o-f-i-t. The pharmaceutical industry wants to shut down the food supplement and herbal industries to gain complete monopoly and control of the health industry. Plain and simple. Dick - Original Message - From: C Creel ccr...@adelphia.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, August 22, 2003 4:11 PM Subject: Re: CSFed handling of dietary supplement Ephedra Dear Dick, You said: Ephedra supplements have caused less than 25 reported deaths, ever! Aspirin causes hundreds, or more, every year. ** I think you may want to check your figures. http://www.citizen.org/publications/release.cfm?ID=7180 Metabolife and certain other companies have a tendency to put more than one stimulant, or too much of a stimulant in their products. The legislation being debated right now is geared to products or substances like this where reports of adverse effects have been made. Have you read the legislation? Professional herbalists will be the first to tell you that ephedra should not be available OTC.Used properly under the guidance of a professional, ephedra can help with a number of conditions. HerbMed has some info, including adverse effects and toxicology on ephedra. http://www.herbmed.org/Herbs/Herb78.htm#Category5Herb78 Regards, Catherine -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSproxy brushing
Thanks, Ode, for the extended post and useful info. Maybe the unusual CS you made with peroxide added to the DW would be useful for external application. From your description it must be heavy with silver. But you are right, it would be unwise to drink it, or use it in the mouth where it could be absorbed into the blood. Didk - Original Message - From: Ode Coyote coyote...@earthlink.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2003 5:25 AM Subject: Re: CSproxy brushing At 10:49 AM 8/18/2003 -0700, you wrote: Thanks, Ode. That makes sense if you want the benefits of H2O2 on your gums. On the other hand, someone else determined that adding it to the DW before making CS would result in smaller particles. ## I have not done this twice and you may get different results. Adding H2O2 to 46 oz distilled water, then running a batch of CS made silver metal flakes large enough to use in a paint job or one of those snow scene globes. [I don't recall how much H2O2..it may have been 6 drops or 1 teaspoon. The idea was to try using peroxide as a 'starter'] Conductivity never exceeded about 13 uS after many many many hours at 1 ma. Almost used up an entire 3 x 12 ga electrode. It got pretty thin. Letting that batch sit undisturbed for a month or two resulted in a deposit of white powder on the bottom about 1/8 deep which after another few months turned into about 50 1/32 dia black balls. The TE is currently extremly heavy and fine grained. PWT reads 13.2 uS and the meter was instantly thickly coated with silver like a mirror thick enough to completly obscure the black plastic on entry/exit to/from the batch but nothing apparent floating on the surface. Taking tiny sip..no appreciable flavor at all. That slight disturbance produced a tendril of white 'smoke' rising from the bottom. No detectable visual 'source' for it. Color is very faint yellow. [was faint blue hue in direct sunlight while still metalflaky if I rememeber right..it's probably been over a year ago that this batch was made. I considered it a total failure and didn't keep any documentation. I kept the batch because it was pretty.] Crystal clear in indirect light. Sun isn't here today. This stuff might well be in the 1000s of PPM. It's sorta scary. Different people adding H2O2 to CS get differing results over different time spans. If you place blackened oxided electrodes in H2O2, they will shine right up. If you leave those electrodes in the H2O2 for a while longer, they turn black again. So, maybe adding it before making CS would make smaller particles and then adding it to the CS before using it would provide the benefits of the oxygen to the gums. ## I've seen it make smaller particles...more particles...fewer particles and larger particles. I've seen CS go from murky to clear. From clear to murky. The only consistant thing H2O2 seems to do is remove color. After that..who knows? Anything can happensometimes the resulting CS has a blueish hue ..not quite a color but more like an elusive tint. I know that diluted H2O2 can cause nausea if drunk with food in the stomach (it foams in the stomach), so perhaps a person would not want to swallow the CS/H2O2 after rinsing the teeth. ## Add too much and you get to make faces like a rabid dog that just ate an angry skunk. Swallowing is out of the question. You just can't spit enough. Ode Any comments? Dick - Original Message - From: Ode Coyote coyote...@earthlink.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2003 4:11 PM Subject: Re: CSproxy brushing Absolutely AFTERWARDS [That loud enough?] Ode At 10:04 AM 8/16/2003 -0700, you wrote: Sol, Do you add the H2O2 before you start making the CS or after it is done? Dick - Original Message - From: sol pcar...@wyoming.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2003 8:36 AM Subject: Re: CSproxy brushing Reid, I'd just use the CS with some H202. I use about 1 to 2 tsps of H202 for about 20 oz of CS. Rinse and swish the Cs as long as I can stand to hold it in my mouth, at least a couple minutes. This worked on my receded gums and tartar build up much better than the straight CS. I get the gum pockets measured again in Oct, but from the way my teeth feel, they should be much better. Add DMSO if you like, but I don't see the E and aloe vera adding anything useful, in fact, just my opinion, it seems like they would make the whole thing less effective. My CS is about 10 to 18 ppm, depending on which gen I use to make it. The larger/more particulate CS (judged by color, TE and PWT) wasn't being effective against the mouth bacteria, as judged by tartar build up. I've been unable to consistently make clear CS, so just started using the H202, and have found it puts the CS back to clear, increases ppm (just as I was told it
CSRe: CS3200 ppm CS Mexico¹s drinking water
Maybe argyria would be more difficult to detect on Mexicans and Indians than on Anglos??? Dick - Original Message - From: Reid Harvey pott...@wlink.com.np To: silver list silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 7:56 PM Subject: Re: CS3200 ppm CS Mexico¹s drinking water Jack, As a result of something else that Alex said there are now a few points concerning Microdyn of which I'm not sure. In part of a response Alex said: .This Agua limpia is Microdyn (3200 ppm c.c.) but was produced by Roland Laboratories for the use in the purification for wasted water by the Mexican Government (I am pretty sure they NEVER let others to know the secret formula/production/research) They patented this way of making the C.S. (I believe they use a micro pulverize method named colloidal pulverizer mill) And yes there are several companies selling the C.S. in Mexico. But no one has the 3200 p.p.m... My question now concerns something I learned in Chemistry, where my knowledge of this discipline is quite incomplete. It has been my understanding that ions can only exist in solution, otherwise under very limited circumstances. My impression from prior discussions here is that the *best of the concentrated CS brands* may contain no more than about 0.5 to 1.0% of a protein stabilizer. But if a concentrated CS is made from *a micro pulveriser mill,* what does this say about other compounds that may be present? This is something to think about and I'm not saying CS made in this way is necessarily a problem, only that I now see question marks. I do know that there are companies in Spain that make a *powdered CS,* as I've mentioned here before. And my understanding from technical literature is that one of these brands contains 80% silver. So what else is present? As to Microdyn, I should say that I have no particular reason to believe it has problems, but I am also curious about cases of argyria in Mexico, documented or anecdotal. If for no other reason this would be of interest for a society in which there is a lot of exposure to silver. I also mentioned earlier that in a 250 ml. glass I found, using the Hanna PWT, that each 1 drop of the Mexican 3200ppm CS added 1.0 ppm to the water. So 10 drops gave 10 ppm. At this rate for any questionable 20%, indicating 2.0 ppm (let us say for the sake of argument) of a silver compound, would this pose a possible cosmetic problem? For that matter what about people in our part of the world, South Asia, who are eating sweets that are covered with silver leaf? I would also like to say that I think Alex Torres appears to be doing wonderful work. Incidentally, Alex said only Microdyn makes CS as concentrated as 3200ppm, but we who saturate ceramic filters have used products as high as 32,000 ppm, 3.2 % solution. Reid Jack Dayton said: 3200 ppm CS Mexico¹s drinking water It is hard to know how to write this, but I becameinterested in high concentration CS about 6 months ago after an exchange of messages between Bill Missett and myself. At the time Bill was living in Mexico, and had, on more than one post, mentioned Mexican made CS that was being sold as 3200 ppm. I suggested that he might like to become a reseller to interested list members, because of the extremely low price it was available for there. That didn¹t work out -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSDistillers
Has anyone used the Kenmore water purifier/distiller? I see a number of them on Ebay for under $50. It says, Kenmore Deluxe Water Purifier with Electric Monitor~~ Countertop water purifier provides great tasting, pure water your family can trust. Produces 6 gallons of purified water per day. Reduces lead, arsenic , nitrates, sodium and chromium VI. Eliminates cysts (Cryptosporidium and Giardia), bacteria and viruses. Reduces 99 percent of total dissolved solids. 800 watts of power, plugs into any standard outlet. Convenient LCD readout displays time of day, auto start, and filter change indicator. System tested to ANSI/NSF Standard 62. Convenient drip-less Stop and Serve feature lets you enjoy purified water from carafe at anytime! I think the key is, Reduces lead, etc. Supposedly makes 6 gals a day, but if run through twice, would it eliminate all. And could it be accurately checked with a Hanna TDS meter? If OK on both products I would think it could pay to invest in them, especially if one was making larger quantities of CS. Commercial steam DW, at $1 a gal, and higher, is not always perfectly pure either, I have heard, and show somewhat high PPM. Anyone care to offer your experience or opinion with either product? Thanks, Dick -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSph?
Nenah, If drinking distilled water on a regular basis, would it be wise to add colloidal minerals? Dick - Original Message - From: Nenah Sylver ne...@bestweb.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 6:37 AM Subject: Re: CSph? - Original Message - From: Leo Regehr leoel...@telusplanet.net To: Silver List silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2003 11:21 PM Subject: CSph? Thanks for the help and ideas so far. Well, I measured my filtered tap water just before it entered into my home distiller - it was about 7. The distilled water dripping out of the charcoal filter on the draining (outgoing) side was about 6 - one full point lower than the stuff going in! Does anyone know which mineral is most responsible for raising the ph - or lowering it as it is distilled out of the water and left as residue at the bottom of the boiling chamber? I repaired to my health food store shortly after my last post and bought some mineral solution that was supposed to raise the ph of distilled water. Six time I added 10 drops and measured each time. The ph paper changed a bit but not much. The water tasted odd. After I drank the water, it left me with a strange, but full feeling, not unpleasant. I sensed it was good for me and I will experiment a bit. I have been drinking dw for 30 years, and I may be suffering from mineral depletion and low ph because of long term use of this stuff. I tested my CS and it was the same ph as dw. But the calcium hydroxide solution (limewater) was sky high. Would it be advisable to raise the ph of our dw CS to make it more effective - any thoughts? Leo Leo, Distilled water should have a pH of 7.0, which is neutral. By definition, distilled water means water without anything else in it EXCEPT hydrogen and oxygen. This means NO MINERALS, either. If there are minerals in distilled water, it is no longer distilled. If your presumably distilled water has a pH that's anything EXCEPT 7.0, there is something else in the water that shouldn't be there -- *and your distiller is not doing its job.* When I was doing research for The Handbook of Rife Frequency Healing, it took me over a year (I believe it was closer to two) to write about 10 pages. Those 10 pages were on water and minerals. I had to plough through various myths, hype, and misinformation from people selling everything from distillers to mineral supplements to water filters to diet books. I talked to many people, including doctors...many of whom, I discovered, didn't know as much as I was being forced to find out. I finally had a breakthrough when I was introduced to a lovely man, a chemist who was the head of the Functional Water Society. He spent many hours with me, clarifying points and directing me to numerous research. The fruits of my hard work are in the book. I thought the information was important enough to put onto my website. The link for my article on water and minerals is: http://www.drninasilver.com/default.asp?contentID=706 I think this article will answer your questions and clear up some confusion so that you know what questions to ask. Please note that distilled water may NOT be the best choice of water to drink on a long-term basis. Research has shown that people who drink water devoid of minerals become ill more frequently than those who drink mineral-rich water. Research has also shown that people who drink water with a pH of under 7.0 become sick, due to the water's acidifying effects. That is the reason for my recent post about looking for a good water distiller that truly produces distilled, 7.0 pH, water. Regards, Nenah Nenah Sylver, Ph.D. Products, services, and information about health Author, *The Handbook of Rife Frequency Healing* Order the book and read excerpts at http://www.drninasilver.com (The website link will change shortly to reflect the name change.) -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSproxy brushing
Thanks, Ode. That makes sense if you want the benefits of H2O2 on your gums. On the other hand, someone else determined that adding it to the DW before making CS would result in smaller particles. So, maybe adding it before making CS would make smaller particles and then adding it to the CS before using it would provide the benefits of the oxygen to the gums. I know that diluted H2O2 can cause nausea if drunk with food in the stomach (it foams in the stomach), so perhaps a person would not want to swallow the CS/H2O2 after rinsing the teeth. Any comments? Dick - Original Message - From: Ode Coyote coyote...@earthlink.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2003 4:11 PM Subject: Re: CSproxy brushing Absolutely AFTERWARDS [That loud enough?] Ode At 10:04 AM 8/16/2003 -0700, you wrote: Sol, Do you add the H2O2 before you start making the CS or after it is done? Dick - Original Message - From: sol pcar...@wyoming.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2003 8:36 AM Subject: Re: CSproxy brushing Reid, I'd just use the CS with some H202. I use about 1 to 2 tsps of H202 for about 20 oz of CS. Rinse and swish the Cs as long as I can stand to hold it in my mouth, at least a couple minutes. This worked on my receded gums and tartar build up much better than the straight CS. I get the gum pockets measured again in Oct, but from the way my teeth feel, they should be much better. Add DMSO if you like, but I don't see the E and aloe vera adding anything useful, in fact, just my opinion, it seems like they would make the whole thing less effective. My CS is about 10 to 18 ppm, depending on which gen I use to make it. The larger/more particulate CS (judged by color, TE and PWT) wasn't being effective against the mouth bacteria, as judged by tartar build up. I've been unable to consistently make clear CS, so just started using the H202, and have found it puts the CS back to clear, increases ppm (just as I was told it would) and, for me, makes it much more effective. I still spray my eyes with it, too, and it doesn't sting or anything. paula - Original Message - From: Reid Harvey pott...@wlink.com.np Greetings Friends, but I'm also pushing in a mix of CS, DMSO, E and aloe vera. One problem I have is that I'm not sure the CS I'm using is doing the job, a couple of drops of Microdyn, large particle size. The ointment may be something like a couple of hundred ppm. But I do know that the 10 ppm CS is of the smaller particle size that can better penetrate the tissue. So What to do? -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSproxy brushing
Sol, Do you add the H2O2 before you start making the CS or after it is done? Dick - Original Message - From: sol pcar...@wyoming.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2003 8:36 AM Subject: Re: CSproxy brushing Reid, I'd just use the CS with some H202. I use about 1 to 2 tsps of H202 for about 20 oz of CS. Rinse and swish the Cs as long as I can stand to hold it in my mouth, at least a couple minutes. This worked on my receded gums and tartar build up much better than the straight CS. I get the gum pockets measured again in Oct, but from the way my teeth feel, they should be much better. Add DMSO if you like, but I don't see the E and aloe vera adding anything useful, in fact, just my opinion, it seems like they would make the whole thing less effective. My CS is about 10 to 18 ppm, depending on which gen I use to make it. The larger/more particulate CS (judged by color, TE and PWT) wasn't being effective against the mouth bacteria, as judged by tartar build up. I've been unable to consistently make clear CS, so just started using the H202, and have found it puts the CS back to clear, increases ppm (just as I was told it would) and, for me, makes it much more effective. I still spray my eyes with it, too, and it doesn't sting or anything. paula - Original Message - From: Reid Harvey pott...@wlink.com.np Greetings Friends, but I'm also pushing in a mix of CS, DMSO, E and aloe vera. One problem I have is that I'm not sure the CS I'm using is doing the job, a couple of drops of Microdyn, large particle size. The ointment may be something like a couple of hundred ppm. But I do know that the 10 ppm CS is of the smaller particle size that can better penetrate the tissue. So What to do? -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSSilver Toxic to Brain Cells
I mix CS and DMSO, 50/50 and use it externally on cuts, infections, pink eye, cold sores, etc., but when I drink it I use plain CS. I may start adding a couple tsp of H2O2, from what I have been reading. The DMSO helps CS penetrate into the tissues. It will also help with fungus infections of toe nails. Also, it burns in the eyes, but it feels sooo good when it stops ;-) Dick - Original Message - From: Charles Sutton cds...@earthlink.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2003 2:44 PM Subject: CSSilver Toxic to Brain Cells I posted this some time ago and never heard any further research on the subject. Seems pretty important to me. Silver can be toxic to nerve cells in the brain and spinal cord, but is normally prevented from entering those areas by the blood-brain barrier. If you mix silver with DMSO then the DMSO will carry the silver with it easily through the blood barrier. The following website had this to say about CS and Brain cells. http://colloidalsilver.hypermart.net/silver/contactus.html http://www.quantumbalancing.com/csfq.htm What is colloidal silver? Are there any dangers or side effects? The Environmental Protection Agency's Poison Control Center reports no toxicity listing for Colloidal Silver. Regular ingestion of colloidal silver can act as a second immune system by assisting the body in the war against invading micro-organisms. Unlike pharmaceutical antibiotic which destroy beneficial enzymes, colloidal silver leaves these tissue-cell enzymes intact. Colloidal Silver, if used sensibly, is completely non-toxic and will not harm the immune system in any way. Critics of colloidal silver will often warn that regular consumption of colloidal silver might lead to Argyria, a bluish/ grey discoloration of the skin. Dr. Bob Beck debunks this statement as a scare tactic by pro-pharmaceutical interests. Dr Beck has indicated that Argyria is caused by silver compounds, such as silver nitrate, silver sulfate, silver sulfadiazine, etc., and not micro-particles of pure elemental silver. Apparently, silver colloids are mostly absorbed in the upper gastrointestinal tract, since colloidal silver does not seem to adversely affect friendly bacteria in the lower intestines. Silver can be toxic to nerve cells in the brain and spinal cord, but is normally prevented from entering those areas by the blood-brain barrier. Silver has not demonstrated any evidence of carcinogenic activity. The body eliminates excess silver via the metallothiones. These ubiquitous proteins, first characterized in 1957, have the property of binding with heavy metals, such as silver, into metal-thiolate-cluster structures which aid in transportation, storage, and elimination of nonessential trace metals which enter the body. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
