CSAvian Pox CS
Hi All, Anyone here have any anecdotal experience using CS on avian pox? I suspect we have had a couple of house finches in my usual backyard flock succumb to it. It is supposedly a virus, but I'm stuck as to how to get CS into MY backyard songbird population in any good fashion. Last night, we had another actually flutter to the back door and sit on the mat in full view of the housecat inside. Symptoms I can see (yes, I picked it up to check for broken limbs, etc): -Lesions on the sides of beak (softer tissues - corner of the mouth?) -Apparent difficulty breathing, appears to be mouth related, not necessarily lung related as I can hear a clicking sound near the beak -1 very large lesion encompassing what would be the ball of the foot, close to 1 cm in diameter incorporating 3 of 4 toes The bird is feisty appears strong, except for the breathing issue, so I don't know how far along this would be in the disease. Upon resending this, I checked...the little thing died overnight, so it was apparently the end of the disease, whatever it was. I'd like to see if CS would help out there, but falling rain and the birds foul the water I put out... Thanks, Heather
CSRe: Elevated liver enzymes in a dog follow up
Hello All, Many, many thanks to Brooks Bradley for his timely information on ALA (Alpha Lipoic Acid)! I have only good news to report about my old Andy-dog. His numbers have all reduced, some to completely normal and only 2 are still slightly elevated after 5 weeks on ALA. Even our vet was impressed by the quick turnaround and I have to say I'm completely overjoyed. His appetite has somewhat returned, although I fear I've created a spoiled brat food-wise since I've been trying various premium foods people foods for the past couple of months trying to get him to eat anything at all and now he's just darn picky. :-) I'm happy to deal with that though...his energy levels are increasing, so he's playing more and seems nearly back to his old self. Protocol: -4 weeks: Milk thistle (1/2 human dose) + Sam-E (full human dose) -Blood test liver numbers reduced, but not significantly with this part -1 week: Milk thistle + Sam-E + ALA in the morning; ALA evening. (double daily ALA dose) -4 weeks: Milk thistle + Sam-E morning; ALA evening (single dose) -Blood test: great results. Again, thanks Brooks and to all of you who sent good wishes and great advice. Heather -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSElevated liver enzymes in a dog
Hi All, My beloved Andy is a 10 year old double-merle border collie who has recently had his second geriatric blood panel done. I was looking to ease his arthritis with a prescription NSAID, but when the panel came back with all 4 of the enzyme levels high (2 were moderate last year), we couldn't do the anti-inflammatory after all. So, we opted to try a month on Sam-E and Milk Thistle, and the numbers have gone down, but not very much. The vet is recommending an ultrasound biopsy. So I guess I have a few questions: Does CS do much for the liver? Anyone have a dog whose liver recovered with remedies other than drug therapy? Anything particularly effective? Should I be expecting better results with the Sam-E than I'm getting? (I was told it would help with joint pain and help detox the liver...). He hasn't been diagnosed with Hepatitis; the doc just described it as similar to cirrhosis or weakening. I don't understand that, really... Perhaps I'm hesitant to do the biopsy because I had a dog who was living with cancer diagnosed, but then I opted for the biopsy, which seemed to awaken the cancer cells in the tumor so that it exploded in growth and I had to put the dog down much sooner than expected. Not looking to repeat that. And last but not least: any thoughts on a diet that a liver-sick dog will eat? He turns his nose up at nearly everything these days. Frustrating... Thanks for any advice. Heather
CSDoes DMSO have a shelf life?
Hi All, Have any of you experienced a lack of effect or sensation when using DMSO 90+% straight after it's been sitting awhile? My husband used our roll-on applicator twice this past week noted that he felt almost none of the characteristic immediate itch tingle that he used to notice a year ago. Just curious if I should DO something with it (shake it?) or get rid of it? My other bottle of liquid pourable that I mix with CS seems to be fine, both purchased at the same time...weird. Thanks for any suggestions. Heather
RE: CSOT prozac diabetes??
Richard, the book does indeed discuss Type 1 Diabetes. It's a very good, in-depth discussion on the whole subject, but since he himself is Type 1, that part of the discussion is quite detailed. I highly recommend it. All the best, Heather From: Richard [mailto:r...@xxicenturysilver.com] Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2007 11:50 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSOT prozac diabetes?? Claire, does Dr Bernstein´s diabetes cure work for Diabete 1 ? thanks Richard On 01/03/2007, at 22:06, Su wrote: Claire, my husband is diabetic and is controlling his blood sugar solely with diet and exercise. Susan
CSRE: SOmedical question
I have had perhaps 30 colonoscopies over the course of my adult life, about half of which were video camera documented. I had familial polyposis (lots of benign polyps) and have actually watched numerous biopsies collected from my intestinal walls cauteries of smaller, early-stage polyps. In no case was there ever any evidence of anything but shiny, pink, glass-like surfaces inside. They actually expand the sections with air as they move along so they can get clear camera shots even with that, it remained perfectly smooth, clean pink. Not saying everyone is like me, but I eat as much or more red meat than the next guy tend to overdo it on the diet (currently about 60 pounds overweight). Who knows...in my life, the evidence says that not eating after 8 pm the night before the procedure and taking a bottle of magnesium citrate is enough to create the shiny colon effect... Your mileage may vary? Heather -Original Message- From: laquerenci...@sbcglobal.net [mailto:] Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2007 1:31 PM To: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com Subject: SOmedical question Someone (Linda maybe?) remarked several months ago that, during a procedure where she was awake and able to observe, none of the gunk on the intestinal walls could be seen - the stuff that is often assumed to build up and adhere in the lower bowel. I've been wondering lately whether I missed a discussion about this interesting observation. Wondering what people think about it, given all the products and cleansing regimes based on the idea that everyone has this sort of gunk and needs to get rid of it. DByron -- The silver-off-topic-list is a moderated forum for silver-list members to discuss topics not appropriate on the main list. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Off Topic List Web archive is currently down. List Owner: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRE: SOmedical question
I have had perhaps 30 colonoscopies over the course of my adult life, about half of which were video camera documented. I had familial polyposis (lots of benign polyps) and have actually watched numerous biopsies collected from my intestinal walls cauteries of smaller, early-stage polyps. In no case was there ever any evidence of anything but shiny, pink, glass-like surfaces inside. They actually expand the sections with air as they move along so they can get clear camera shots even with that, it remained perfectly smooth, clean pink. Not saying everyone is like me, but I eat as much or more red meat than the next guy tend to overdo it on the diet (currently about 60 pounds overweight). Who knows...in my life, the evidence says that not eating after 8 pm the night before the procedure and taking a bottle of magnesium citrate is enough to create the shiny colon effect... Your mileage may vary? Heather -Original Message- From: laquerenci...@sbcglobal.net [mailto:] Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2007 1:31 PM To: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com Subject: SOmedical question Someone (Linda maybe?) remarked several months ago that, during a procedure where she was awake and able to observe, none of the gunk on the intestinal walls could be seen - the stuff that is often assumed to build up and adhere in the lower bowel. I've been wondering lately whether I missed a discussion about this interesting observation. Wondering what people think about it, given all the products and cleansing regimes based on the idea that everyone has this sort of gunk and needs to get rid of it. DByron -- The silver-off-topic-list is a moderated forum for silver-list members to discuss topics not appropriate on the main list. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Off Topic List Web archive is currently down. List Owner: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSslow down OT
On a mildly-related note...I haven't seen any OT mail in ages...is there still an off-topic list and are people still contributing to it? I wonder if my mail nukes them... Heather From: Paula Perry [mailto:p...@zoomnet.net] Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2006 4:04 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSslow down Mike, I noticed that I am not getting any email from my other alternative health group either. I don't think they have Eskimo. I never noticed this before. Paula
RE: CSViagra spam
You can limit receipt of mail in Hotmail to just the addresses in your Hotmail address book. If the entity sending you mail isn't in there, it's refused. Period. I only get mail from people I want to get mail from in Hotmail...and my inbox averages about 25 mails a month...with no spam. Heather -Original Message- From: cking...@nycap.rr.com [mailto:cking...@nycap.rr.com] Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2006 11:57 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSViagra spam Well it took a long time. I have kept this hotmail address for use only on the silver list but the viagra people finally got a hold of it and are now sending me junk mail. Is there any remedy for this that anyone knows of.? Learn to use the filters in your mail reader. Some readers are better than others. I use mailwasher now, to prefilter messages. It's the most flexible. Chuck Proofread carefully to see if you any words out. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSEveryday Use
Be careful about spraying white articles and surfaces that will stain...oxidized CS will leave a lovely brownish-gray stain on things like counter tops and white towels. About the exact color of tarnish... ;-) Just a heads up, in case it matters. Heather From: Kurt Voitel [mailto:k...@voitel.name] Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 8:12 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSEveryday Use Hello: Would like to spray down linens, towels, work surfaces, kitchen counter tops and pet beds. Also bough a 44 oz. hand pumped pressurized garden sprayer for general use. Any comments on the strength in PPM or type of CS for daily use in a mister. Thank you for any and all recommendations.
CSPsoriasis questions
Hello all. My husband works with a guy who has been diagnosed with Psoriasis. He's heard that CS may be beneficial and is willing to try it, but I was reading about the disease since it is an immune system issue, would it be better to ingest the CS or to apply it topically or both? Will CS help calm this down/get rid of it? Any experience with this is appreciated. Love light, Heather -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSKefir
Hi Pat, I just brew my own fresh. It's easy you control what milk is used to brew it. I use a local organic whole milk, so I know exactly what's in there. I do have to add 1/8 - 1/4 C of a commercially made smoothie (like Tillamook Vanilla Smoothie) for my husband to get it down, but I love it plain with a 1/4 tsp of cayenne pepper stirred in. YUM! Here's a site where you can read up on making your own if you're interested even buy starter babies from the host. He's extremely knowledgeable about kefir and is generous with advice. His kefir babies make the smoothest, creamiest, beer-iest kefir I've tasted. http://users.sa.chariot.net.au/~dna/kefirpage.html Heather -Original Message- From: Pat [mailto:pattycake29...@yahoo.com] Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2006 6:19 PM To: silver list Subject: CSKefir A few months ago I tried Lifeway Kefir. It was the only brand I've seen in any stores here in SC. I didn't like it much...
RE: CScanine question
I have used CS in my pet's eyes, many times in fact. Emergency use as an eye wash stings quite a bit, but is effective. I have blended the CS 50-50 in a shot glass with buffered saline solution (like for contact lens rinse) and applied that multiple times daily with much less stinging/reaction. It also worked just fine. In every case the eye infection cleared within 1-3 days. Antibiotic eye ointments are available and do a fine job on simple infections. http://www.pawstogo.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPRODProdID=80 . If my pet just had an infection, I'd use this because the ointment itself provides a protective film as well as the antibiotic. If it was in actual injury or a chronic infection, I'd also use the CS/saline. Heather From: kent [mailto:ke...@shaw.ca] Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 11:16 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CScanine question Hi, I have an urgent matter and wondering if any of you can help. I was wondering if anyone has used colloidal silver to treat a infection in their pets eye. Also what other things can be done to treat such an infection. You can e-mail me at ke...@shaw.ca (I will receive the responses faster as I am only signed up for digest at this time thanks I really appreciate the help. Regards Kent -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.4.1/308 - Release Date: 4/11/2006
CSAvian flu SJW? Interesting.
http://www.hbcprotocols.com/avian.html This is intriguing...Anyone know what the properties are of hypericin that make it deadly to bird flu? Heather -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSCS staining?
On my white countertops in my old house, I had to alternate between a paste of baking soda water (like a scrub, using my fingers) and then peroxide...the next day, the stain was more faint, so I did the same thing again...it took me 4 tries before it stopped returning. I've since learned to always make decant my CS over an old towel. Heather King (heatherk) Platforms Admin Assistant 425.706.2986 8/2315 From: cking...@nycap.rr.com [mailto:cking...@nycap.rr.com] Sent: Thu 1/26/2006 10:38 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSCS staining? Yup! Don't let it dry on countertops! Try a little peroxide on the stain. Chuck If you jog backwards, will you GAIN weight? On 1/26/2006 11:44:21 PM, Pat (pattycake29...@yahoo.com) wrote: Has anyone had a problem with CS staining anything? I have some brown stains on my Corian-type (Surrell) bathroom countertop and in the white sink. I was pouring some very strong CS into a spray bottle there a few days before I noticed the stains. Nothing will take them off. I can't think of anything else that could have caused them. I was wondering if it ever stains fabrics? I sprayed the mattress pad, didn't notice any problem. Pat - Do you Yahoo!? W -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSMalaria questions
Hello Listers, My Parents (65 68 years old) just returned from a year in Uganda Malawi, with the longest bit of time spent in very primitive conditions in Malawi. My Dad managed to contract malaria about 2 months ago and only suffered symptoms for a short duration. They were both on antibiotics nearly the whole time they were there, so I was wondering if the antibiotics reduced his possible parasitic infection. Would he basically still have malaria even though they haven't found much in his blood to prove it? Also, in your opinion, what type of damage would steady antibiotic use do an older person's immune system, if any? And lastly, but probably more importantly, would CS have any effect on malaria parasites? Lots of questions, I know. You all seem to have such a vast body of experience that I'm hoping this set of Q's falls somewhere inside that. Thanks in advance, Heather -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSTrue?
The Onion is known for parody and sarcasm...I seriously doubt much of anything on there is truth...more likely a means to show a sarcastic response to other real executive orders. Making fun of the idiocy of some decisions made in government these days is sport. The Onion just takes it to extremes sometimes. Heather From: Barbara [mailto:barba...@tampabay.rr.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2005 11:07 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSTrue? Hi Guys, Can this be true? What is this Onion, can it be trusted? Hope someone knows. Barbara http:/www.onion.com/content/node/42166
RE: CSvaccines and dental implants
The release I signed before my flu shot a week ago said to NOT get the shot if you were allergic to thimerosol...they're still using it for adult, mass-produced doses as far as I can see. Don't know about childhood disease vacs. H. -Original Message- From: Betsy Coffey [mailto:latimergi...@yahoo.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 4:01 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSvaccines and dental implants Thanks for the web site sam. someone posted earlier that they saw a sign about thermisol in vaccines and was wondering if they had stopped using it. From what I understand, it is not used anymore in infant vaccines but they still use it in hep vaccines and flue shots. Doesn anyone confirm this? I wonder what they use as a substitute for mercury in infant vaccines? Will they ever tell us? Also, for anyone considering dental implants. I have one thing to say. I would think twice before considering this. I wish that I had never had it done. I ended up having them out due to infections which I have never quite recovered from. __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSFish
Silver still kills bacteria. Dead bacteria cannot process fish wastes, allowing the toxins (ammonia, nitrates, nitrites) to build up to dangerous levels. Why would you want that? Outside water is just as dependent on the bacterial synergy as is indoor tank water. From: Nancy DeLise [mailto:nancym...@prodigy.net] Sent: Friday, November 11, 2005 8:28 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSFish If one has a small fish pond outside, is it possible to keep the water more alge free if you put small particles of silver in. I don't think this should hurt the fish. I was thinking of the tiny pieces I have left over when the rods have worn thin nancy
RE: CSFish
No. Silver kills bacteria. Dead bacteria kills fish. End of story. Never use silver or CS to keep fish tank water clean for fish...trust me, they won't appreciate it. :-) Live bacteria keep water clean for fish. A perfect synergy. heather -Original Message- From: Nancy DeLise [mailto:nancym...@prodigy.net] Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 10:00 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSFish Has anyone just put a bit of a silver rod in a fish tank to keep the water clean instead of CS? Might this work? Nancy -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CScomposite fillings
Yes, actually...I've had anywhere from 2 weeks to 2 months of cold sensitivity as each filling was changed out. I assumed it was normal since I had the same thing back when I got the amalgams in the first place. My dentist's explanation was that live nerves were exposed when the amalgam was removed the pit was cleaned, so sensitivity is normal depending on the nerve exposure/contact. All has since subsided for me though...my composites look act like nothing ever took place. Love them. Heather From: Betsy Coffey [mailto:latimergi...@yahoo.com] Sent: Fri 11/4/2005 4:48 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CScomposite fillings Has anyone ever had problems with sensitivity after having composite fillings put in your mouth? I am referring here to the white fillings and not the silver. __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSMercury toxification cure?
I've heard that consuming copious quantities of the delicious herb Cilantro will effect a cleansing, but I have no first-hand experience with that. Heather -Original Message- From: Faith Saint Francis [mailto:faithstfran...@hotmail.com] Sent: Friday, October 14, 2005 10:27 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSMercury toxification cure? My friends, We have read so much about the amalgam threat. I stated that mercury, the most dangerous part in the amalgam stuff that comes free, and goes with the blood stream to our poor, already so badly battered body-organs is VERY HARD to remove. Is there anything known about the how-to-do, to rid oneself of mercury deposits in the body? Faith _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSTrem..nebulizer.
Hi Trem, When I went to Walgreen's in Lynnwood, WA, they did have personal humidifiers which happen to be ultrasonic, hand-held, 1-cup-size nebulizers. I paid 19.95 at the time, which was about 2 years ago now. To describe it, it looks like a cup, with a screw-on top, which is a green flip-top on/off switch combo; you flip it open, it turns on the super-fine fog, you snap it shut, it turns off. It has a small wall wart power supply and comes with additional filters/wicks which draw the CS up into the sonic vibration chamber. I wonder if this is the unit someone said was discontinued...it works like a champ and now I wish I'd gotten more of them. Hope this description helps. Heather in Redmond From: ol...@aol.com [mailto:ol...@aol.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2005 6:27 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSTrem..nebulizer. In a message dated 10/4/2005 9:41:07 A.M. Central Daylight Time, t...@silvergen.com writes: went to a Walgreen's in Silverdale, WA a couple of days ago and they told me that Walgreen's has never had nebulizers on the shelf. They told me to look online. I did...nothing there. Guess I'm dead in the water. Trem Trem, I live in Decatur, Illinois and a chain called Family Drug has nebulizers for around $50.00 + or -. We have bought three and like them very much. Thom
RE: CSNew computers have keyboard loggers in them
Sorry kids...it's an internet hoax. :-( http://www.snopes.com/computer/internet/internet.asp Check out the bottom entry on this page. Heather -Original Message- From: DebMark [mailto:spa...@warwick.net] Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 11:52 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSNew computers have keyboard loggers in them Just use an older keyboard. It should work. Deb - Original Message - From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com; silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 11:53 AM Subject: CSNew computers have keyboard loggers in them GOVERNMENT AND COMPUTER MANUFACTURERS CAUGHT INSTALLING HARD-WIRED KEYSTROKE LOGGERS INTO ALL NEW LAPTOP COMPUTERS! Devices capture everything you ever type, then can send it via your ethernet card to the Dept. of Homeland Security without your knowledge, consent or a search warrant each time you log onto the internet! Freedom Of Information Act Requests For Explanation From DHS, refused. http://www.halturnershow.com/KeystrokeLoggersInAllNewComputers.html I guess I won't be getting any new computers. Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSReason for my Interest in CS
www.silvermedicine.org http://www.silvermedicine.org/ Lots lots of reading here. H. From: debca...@aol.com [mailto:debca...@aol.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2005 9:07 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSReason for my Interest in CS My friend told me about the advantages of CS with her family and dogs. I have a puppy who is being treated for Demedex on strong antibiotics. He has two weeks then he is done with the antibiotic treatment. I know, antibiotics kill good and bad bacteria. Demedex is also caused by stress and an immune system that is not fully developed. My friend told me CS can help build a stronger immune system and help get rid of the Demedex in my puppy. I have never heard of Colloidal Silver ever. I have been reading like crazy. I have found good and bad things about silver. The last thing I want to do is endanger my dog or myself. Any and all information is helpful. Thanks, Debbie
RE: CSRe Bird Flu
Please add me to your list Margaret. And Thanks! Heather -Original Message- From: metaphor [mailto:metap...@senet.com.au] Sent: Monday, October 03, 2005 10:07 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSRe Bird Flu Hello List , With all the interest in the risks associated with the Bird Flu . I have a PDF file of a book entitled : ' Beat the Bird Flu ' . If anyone would like a copy ? Please let me know , I will send one on to you . address your request to : metap...@senet.com.au Regards Margaret -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSCongestive Heart Failure
Dr. Atkins died of blunt force trauma to his skull after slipping on ice near his home and hitting his head. He may have had heart problems, but then so do many other people who eventually die of cancer or car accidents or other unpredictable circumstances. From: Charles Sutton [mailto:cds...@earthlink.net] Sent: Friday, September 30, 2005 9:02 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSCongestive Heart Failure I read that Dr. Atkins, of diet fame, died of CFG. The article stated that CFG was a viral infection of the heart. If true wouldn't CS(EIS) get to the root of this problem??
RE: CSsplitting nails
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RE: CSDOG FLU !!!
I heard that it's highly contagious among dogs only and that there is no vaccine for it. If your dogs aren't social don't go to dog parks, then they're not likely to get it. From: twllLL [mailto:twl...@alltel.net] Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2005 4:00 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSDOG FLU !!! Has anyone out there heard about the Dog Flu going around. I just heard about it today.Theres a lot of stuff on the internet about it.
RE: CS Snoring
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CSre: Snoring/Obstructive Sleep Apnea
Please forgive if this shows up twice...I got an error on the first re-try. H. ~ Hello Wendy, True sleep apnea is caused by the soft palette falling across the opening to the esophagus, causing airway obstruction, resulting in upwards of 700 or more wake-ups per night. What this means is the sleeper is not actually able to get to REM sleep and is therefore not rested, causing many health problems. The only way to tell if you have this is to get a sleep study done. They put electrodes in various places, measuring how many wake-ups you have during the night and how much oxygen you are getting into your bloodstream. It is actually considered a life-threatening condition and can result in heart failure, not to mention the myriad possibilities for vehicular and on-the-job accidents resulting from lack of restful sleep. I would strongly recommend that your husband get a sleep study done soon...if he does have Obstructive Sleep Apnea, he would likely be given a device called a CPAP (Constant Positive Air Pressure) machine to wear while sleeping and told to lose some weight. It's a very simple fix for a scary condition...no drugs needed. Just recounting my recent experiences personal health issues... Heather -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSSick cat
I agree. I've written before about how my cat prefers CS to the communal water the dogs slobber in. He has recovered often from territorial disputes with other cats having scratches infections; just by switching his water to CS alone. A dab of peroxide on the wounds he's fine in a day. He does love to drink CS though. Granted, this is pretty superficial compared to liver problems, but I've found that CS tends to be very supportive for cats in general. Heather -Original Message- From: Terry Chamberlin [mailto:tcj...@yahoo.ca] Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2005 7:50 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSSick cat We have repeatedly seen our sick cats get well after changing their water to CS. Not water and cs, just cs. We had a cat with the symptoms you describe, except no purring. Just laying around. Changed her water to cs. She recovered. You have to get the cs into her, even if it means using a dropper syringe from an herbal tincture bottle. I admit, I am cynical about vets. They, like old country doctors, used to know ways and techniques to combat health issues that were practical and wise. Now all they know is drugs. IMHO __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSGall Stones, Calcification, Heart Valves
Hi Nina, They are ampoules, not capsules; sealed glass tubes. There are 2 in a package, which appear to be about 5 inches long. -Original Message- From: Nenah Sylver [mailto:ne...@bestweb.net] Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2005 4:46 PM To: silver-l...@eskimo. Com Subject: Re: CSGall Stones, Calcification, Heart Valves $50 for two capsules? They must be out of this world -- and quite large! Did you mean 2 BOTTLES of capsules? Nenah -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSMy symptoms - please help!
Just one note on progesterone cream: too much in one location will tie it up in the fat and not do any good...either rotate use to different sites or get a prescription for sublingual progesterone. It is actually much more effective with less. Heather -Original Message- From: Kate Strong [mailto:ka...@ihug.co.nz] Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2005 1:19 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSMy symptoms - please help! Hi Lori, I wouldn't have thought taking progesterone cream would be the answer to oestrogen dominance. I would have thought taking something like vitus agnus (chasteberry) would be more of the answer? Helping to eliminate excess oestrogen. You think? Kate At 08:01 AM 5/26/2005, you wrote: Jason, I hate to see all the pain you are going through. I am hoping I can offer a little help. http://www.johnleemd.com/ Dr. John Lee identified over 15 years ago a hormonal imbalance in most people in the industrial world. He was suffering from many symptoms and through his research uncovered a HUGE problem. Due to an over abundance of petroleum based products in our lives, our bodies become estrogen dominant. Petroleum based products can be plastics, fertilizers, additives to food etc. Estrogen dominance is characterized by many of your symptoms. When you related low libido, that sent up a big flag for me. Prolonged Estrogen Dominance can lead to Fibromyalgia or a breaking down of the lining surrounding the nerves resulting in lots of pain. Estrogen dominance can also lead to fuzzy headedness or not being able to think clearly, forgetfulness, ADD etc. Be aware that if you decide to use a natural progesterone cream that the first month your symptoms will get worse. Then after your body is able to balance itself the symptoms can vanish. The dark circles under the eyes could indicate allergies. A good allergist can identify what allergies you do have if any. If the body is constantly having to fight off the effects of food you are allergic to, that would lead to a lowered or compromised immune system. I wish you well! Lori -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRE: CS cats
Cats are inherently picky about what they drink...my cat Boo! (black Halloween kitty) thinks he's a dog like his border collie brothers in all areas except drinking water. He'll sleep in the dog beds, steal the dog kibbles from their bowls, lick their faces ears and wander around the property where they do, all ganged up like some weird pack...when it comes to the drinking water, though, it's an entirely different thing. If there's been a single lick in the bowl by the slimy dog tongue, he won't touch it. I tried just giving him a second bowl, and it worked (sort of) but after an abcess incident, I gave him straight CS to drink nothing else for 2 weeks and now he's addicted. He knows its CLEAN water. I indulge him because we live out in farm country who knows what they could catch. Besides...if he ever turned blue, who'd know? :-) He's happy healthy drinks only 10 ppm Silvergen CS and has done so for over a year... Heather
CSRE: CS cats
Cats are inherently picky about what they drink...my cat Boo! (black Halloween kitty) thinks he's a dog like his border collie brothers in all areas except drinking water. He'll sleep in the dog beds, steal the dog kibbles from their bowls, lick their faces ears and wander around the property where they do, all ganged up like some weird pack...when it comes to the drinking water, though, it's an entirely different thing. If there's been a single lick in the bowl by the slimy dog tongue, he won't touch it. I tried just giving him a second bowl, and it worked (sort of) but after an abcess incident, I gave him straight CS to drink nothing else for 2 weeks and now he's addicted. He knows its CLEAN water. I indulge him because we live out in farm country who knows what they could catch. Besides...if he ever turned blue, who'd know? :-) He's happy healthy drinks only 10 ppm Silvergen CS and has done so for over a year... Heather
RE: CSCS Teeth Stains
Baking soda gets the CS brown stains off my white laminate counter top in the kitchen too. Just pour a little dry baking soda on the stain, add a few drops of water to make a paste, and rub gently until it disappears. There may be lingering particles that will re-stain in a day or 2, but if you keep after it, eventually, it disappears for good. I think tooth enamel, being smoother less porous than a laminate counter top, will probably respond quite favorably. Heather From: S Khanna [mailto:khann...@yahoo.com] Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2005 7:33 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSCS Teeth Stains What works for me with the staining is brushing with baking soda. I always use it to whiten teeth, even getting a little on a toothpick and carefully going between the teeth. It does a wonderful job. Sally Raine rainelov...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Hi all, I've been swishing the CS twice daily to treat gum disease. After a few weeks I discovered some brown staining on my teeth! In discussing teeth, gums and such on another list, I found others who experienced this as well, and suspected the CS. I've changed to using a CS/H202/water solution for swishing in hopes of eliminating the staining, but not doing damage to the enamel from acidity. My question; has anyone else encountered this, and if so what did they do to rid themselves of the staining? Thanks, Raine -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-T! opic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour Discover Yahoo! Find restaurants, movies, travel more fun for the weekend. Check it out! http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=32658/*http:/discover.yahoo.com/weekend.html
RE: CSFinding a holistic dentist
I happened upon a more holistic dentist quite by accident...it turns out that he's very young. Fresh out of school; just starting his practice. He's managed to be very open to what his patients request and has decided that he'll only fill with composite, never amalgam. He's replaced 4 of my amalgam fillings already will probably finish the job over the next 2 years (as my insurance allows). He told me that they're finding that old amalgam causes the teeth to crack eventually because it doesn't adhere well wears away from the tooth, allowing gaps that encourage particles to wedge in bacteria to grow. The cracks take years to form, but they almost always do. He believes in the composite because it's inert (supposedly) once it's cured it adheres to the tooth material in a much more complete bond. I suppose getting a young/new one may help...finding a truly holistic dentist may prove difficult. I can honestly say I've never actually heard of such a thing. Pain-free, yes...holistic? Not so much. Heather From: Theresa Widmer [mailto:tlwid...@sbcglobal.net] Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2005 8:50 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSFinding a holistic dentist Hello all-- Just wondering; where does one start looking for a holistic dentist? I imagine I'm going to have a little trouble finding one in central Illinois. My dentist will remove them, abeit reluctantly, but I want to find one that believes in the necessity of removing them as well as take the necessary precautions. thanks! Theresa
CSCS use in a CPAP machine
Hello All, My husband uses a nighttime breathing assist called a CPAP machine (Constant Positive Air Pressure) which also has the option of using a thermally-controlled humidifier to add moisture to the air as it's pressurized to his mask. We were wondering if anyone has tried CS in a CPAP machine before...we kind of think the possibility of fungus in the warm moist environment is real we were wondering if anyone has tried it or has experienced mold/fungus in the hosing. I think using CS instead of plain water through the hose should still let CS do its thing, even if it's slightly warmed...right? Thanks for any thoughts. Heather
RE: CSBest method...etc NOW Diet
Here's a good site for kefir learning sources: http://users.chariot.net.au/~dna/kefirpage.html Heather -Original Message- From: himagain [mailto:himag...@fablor.com] Sent: Friday, January 14, 2005 1:09 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSBest method...etc NOW Diet At 04:41 AM 13/01/05, Dan wrote: Anyway, I have convinced my wife (and myself) to go on a no meat, no dairy, no processed food (white flour, sugar, etc.), no commercial prepared foods, no vegetable oils other than olive, etc. There are some exceptions to some of this as we feel our way into this and we may make some modifications of it in the future. So far I am less than a week into it but feel fine, eat my fill, and have had some surprisingly tasty meals! So far I have lost 1 pound a day, Good for you both, Dan, BUT: a couple of suggestions: 1. Track down some Kefir culture and make some safe dairy. Have a read here: http://www.rejoiceinlife.com/books/bookUntold.php Kefir info and milk 2. Switch to certified safe organic coconut oil. ( It *is* expensive but a great healthaid) We recently found it and switched to it from certified organic cold-pressed Olive Oil which had made my life tolerable for years. Had to buy in 20 litre lots to get the price down reasonably, though. Still, GOOD coconut oil stores for years. 3. Try not to lose more than a pound or so per week after that first flush! :-) Skin takes ages to recover from too sudden weight loss. 4. Oh, and eggs are still a great source of protein - *IF* you can get sanely raised chickens.. (rare) Cheers! Himagain -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRE: Obesity Virus?
A friend sent me this link today: http://www.obesityvirus.com/ Has anyone heard of this before? Has anyone used CS for this before? Just curious...CS making you lose weight...there's a concept. :-) Thanks, Heather
RE: CSIs it really this quiet?
Actually, I've found that if you don't let the chopped garlic sit in your mouth (or swirl/chew it in with water) you don't need to be deodorized or live alone. :-) I quickly mince a fresh clove, put it on a spoon, then on my tongue immediately wash it straight down like a vitamin. Don't chew it, don't let it touch your cheeks. I heard somewhere (I think it was Alton Brown's Good Eats, actually) that it's the volatiles (there are 2) that are released from the garlic layers blend together in the first few seconds of mincing. This is exactly the moment that garlic should be ingested for maximum effect. I used a clove every morning for 3 months to assist in getting rid of candida overgrowth...no one knew. :-) You don't burp garlic doing it this way either...I should know; I did this on an empty stomach every day. It worked wonders and I also had no discernable body odor during this time...while I had the candida overgrowth/imbalance, the BO was present. Just my .02 cents... Heather -Original Message- From: Dan Nave [mailto:dn...@mn.nilfisk-advance.com] Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2004 7:38 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSIs it really this quiet? Raw garlic is quite good for colds. Before CS when I felt a cold coming on I could often stop it by chopping up a large garlic clove and mixing it in a quarter to half cup of water and chugging it down. Well, you get garlic breath, but it seems to work pretty well. It does kill viruses... If you are by yourself, you can take as much as your system can stand... Dan CSIs it really this quiet? -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSMalaria questions
So, basically, the consensus is that something other than an antibiotic is appropriate...considering that malaria is a parasite and not bacteria. I'll have to make sure my Mom didn't get confused and think that the doctor was lumping the reasons for the daily antibiotic use together with all the maladies one could get while in Africa, including malaria... Thanks for all your thoughts. Heather -Original Message- From: Sara Mandal-Joy [mailto:sara...@mobil1.net] Sent: Monday, May 24, 2004 4:33 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSMalaria questions I was born in Papua, New Guinea, and lived in the highlands there for my early years. We had to take quinine daily Joy - Original Message - From: DByron laqueren...@mindspring.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, May 24, 2004 2:27 PM Subject: CSMalaria questions Hi Heather, Quinine is, or at least used to be, the conventional prophylactic for malaria--small amounts taken orally several weeks in advance of possible exposure and then during one's stay. I never heard of antibiotics being used as a preventative. Deborah -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSMalaria questions
Hi All, Digging into the depths of your collective experience, will CS do anything at all in either the prevention of or the healing of malaria? My parents are heading to Africa for a 1-year mission through their church and in my Mom's words are going to be taking antibiotics every day to prevent malaria. I inherently mistrust blanket statements like that, but after lurking for years on this list I know that those particular blanket statements are begging to be examined...any light to be shed? Are there good reasons why my Mom's doctor would be prescribing antibiotics for daily use for malaria prevention? Should I question her further about this? Thanks in advance... Heather -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CS
Hi All, Digging into the depths of your collective experience, will CS do anything at all in either the prevention of or the healing of malaria? My parents are heading to Africa for a 1-year mission through their church and in my Mom's words are going to be taking antibiotics every day to prevent malaria. I inherently mistrust blanket statements like that, but after lurking for years on this list I know that those particular blanket statements are begging to be examined...any light to be shed? Are there good reasons why my Mom's doctor would be prescribing antibiotics for daily use for malaria prevention? Should I question her further about this? Thanks in advance... Heather Heather King 8/2230 425.706.2986 Microsoft Information Resources http://legalweb/sites/Records/default.aspx http://legalweb/sites/Records/default.aspx
RE: CSRe: CS for fishes
It isn't necessarily bad for the fish themselves...it will kill your TANK, however. The beneficial bacteria which help to keep your water clean for the fish will die if exposed to CS, thus poisoning the fish. It's best to treat the fish with CS OUTSIDE the tank in a small container as a dip-method, since the CS is actually harmless to the fish itself. Then return the treated fish to the tank. NEVER put CS in a tank or pond. From: whay ronnie [mailto:w...@singapore.com] Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2004 3:11 AM To: Silverlist Subject: CSRe: CS for fishes Thank you for the caution. I am giving CS to my cats and dogs and they like it. I always thought CS only kill single cell organisms and is harmless to animals. How is it bad for the fishes? -- ___ Sign-up for Ads Free at Mail.com http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup http://mail01.mail.com/scripts/payment/adtracking.cgi?bannercode=adsfre ejump01 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
CSWalgreen Ultrasonic Humidifier
Hi Richard (and list), I purchased the $20 Personal Ultrasonic Humidifier from Walgreen the other day, but I noticed in trying to set up the process that it has a charcoal filter as part of the uptake. Did you encounter this and if so, did you just leave it in place? I wonder about it filtering out all the CS/DMSO/MSM. On the other hand it is easily removable, but then there is no way so siphon up the mixture, since the filter portion reaches down into the reservoir. Without the filter, there is no reach. If you know what I'm referring to, can you recommend a way to bypass the little filter? Perhaps plastic tubing? I have the receipt could take it back, but I really like the size ( price) so if I can find a way to rearrange it that would be the best thing. If you changed it to suit you, I'd like to know how you did it. :o) Thanks for any suggestions, Heather King -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSAsthma ..Update
This vaporizor sounds like the one I have...if so, make sure you remove the activated charcoal filter in the bottom of the unit. Mine has it in a removable blue plastic box-like container, set into the base unit. It WILL filter out the particles in the CS from what I understand. Which is not what you want...you just want the unit to vaporize CS. Just a thought... Heather -Original Message- From: Vince Richter [mailto:cvin...@ala.net] Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 7:22 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSAsthma ..Update Garnet, You definitely don't need a prescription to get a nebulizer. I just got a Vicks ultrasonic nebulizer at CVS drugstore for $50.00. A few days later I saw the ad in the paper for the comparable Walgreen ultrasonic nebulizer for $29 with a $10 mail in rebate (making it only $20). Oh well, the price of going ahead and buying something... It's a desk top unit and not very portable, but it will be a great addition to my arsenal of sickness fighting weapons. I put about 1/2 gallon of my best CS in it and have been taking a breath of mist 2 or three times a day. It's so convenient. I turn on the power and a second or two later a cool mist of CS is blowing out. I take a deep breath of it and turn it off immediately when I'm done breathing it. I'm getting my lungs slowly accustomed to it so that if I get one of the dreaded winter respiratory infections, I'll be ready. Of course, by doing this, I probably won't be getting any respiratory infections... Vince -Original Message- From: Garnet [mailto:garnetri...@earthlink.net] Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 8:51 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSAsthma ..Update Rob, snip Fantastic news on your sister BTW. I am thinking of trying it on my family, all three of us have mild asthma. Got to find a nebulizer first, which I suppose means I have to go to the doctor to get a Rx. Does anyone know if I can buy one without an Rx? Garnet -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSCS stains on counter tops
I had white laminate countertops in my former home (I know...what was I thinking?) so I was desperate to get rid of the stains before selling the home...the only thing that worked for me was alternating between peroxide (pouring a puddle letting it sit for hours-overnight, even) and wet baking soda rubbed in by wet fingers. It took about 4-5 alternating tries, but eventually I was successful. I never did find that I could get rid of a stain the first time out. Persistence... Heather From: sol [mailto:pcar...@wyoming.com] Sent: Friday, October 24, 2003 10:29 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSCS stains on counter tops I also await help. paula - Original Message - From: kittykat mailto:kittyka...@foxvalley.net I also have that problem. One of my bottles leaked and I have a dark brown stain on my grout on my countertop. Any help would be appreciated. Debbie - Original Message - From: tdg39 mailto:td...@tampabay.rr.com messy me has over time spilled small amounts of cs on both white and yellow Formica countertops as well as a few drops on the white facing of the dishwasher door. Have gray stains on them that nothing I have tried removes. Tried peroxide, oxyclean, bleach, soda, dish soap. Anyone had this problem and solved it? Terry
RE: CSC.S. and Coffee Creamer Half and Half Spoilage..Yes, but...
You can put good bugs back in milk...I don't drink milk per se...I buy organic whole milk and culture it to kefir drink it that way. Since I don't eat cereal, I can't think of any reason to drink uncultured milk myself. I'm not a calf after all...turn your milk into probiotic food by creating kefir. It tastes great is better for you than just plain cow milk. I do wait a few hours before taking CS, though...just to make sure the kefir's made it out of the stomach. Lots of good reading here: http://users.chariot.net.au/~dna/kefirpage.html Heather -Original Message- From: Charles Sutton [mailto:cds...@earthlink.net] Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 5:49 PM To: James Holmes; silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSC.S. and Coffee Creamer Half and Half Spoilage..Yes, but... The milk from the grocery store is dead. Killed by pasteurization. No good bugs at all. The best treatise on this is The Milk Book can't remember the author...list; who knows who wrote it? - Original Message - From: James Holmes ami...@starband.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 5:52 PM Subject: RE: CSC.S. and Coffee Creamer Half and Half Spoilage..Yes, but... -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSNitrite in water
I don't know a ready source for this, but I used to use an absorbent called Zeolite to absorb nitrites in my pond water. It looks like activated charcoal granules, only it's white and does a pretty good job. I kept it in a porous plastic basket-like container and recharged it every 3 months by soaking/rinsing it, container all in a clean bucket of salt water (rock salt tap water), then rinsed thoroughly in fresh before returning to the pond. The salt water purges the buildup of nitrites and the fresh rinses it all away. As for human drinking water consumption, I have no idea if this would work for you or not...I do know that the basic premise works just fine, though my koi were always healthy and the dogs cats at my house preferred to drink out of the pond instead of the bowl in the house if they could. Heather -Original Message- From: MB [mailto:ina...@ptt.yu] Sent: Monday, June 30, 2003 11:59 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Dear Sirs, Does anyone know technology for Nitrite removal from well water ? I have such trouble in small village where i live, and officials tell that it is impossible to do much in solve this problem. Thanks for any help, Sincerely, Dr Miroslav F Besermenji VOJVODINA Yugoslavia -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSbaby bird - nestling
Hi Taylor, I don't know where you are located, but even tropical fruit-eating birds require protein to start life. Hummingbirds feed their young insects for the first weeks to get them fat feathered, so it stands to reason that fruit juice (while high-energy) is not enough for a little guy to get strong. Also, unless he has an infection of some sort, CS probably wouldn't revive him much since little guys his size need to eat something many times during the day...like every hour or two. My thoughts are warmth protein (whatever form it takes) and often. Good luck! Heather From: skyl...@aol.com [mailto:skyl...@aol.com] Sent: Tue 5/27/2003 8:13 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSbaby bird - nestling Hi Friends, Mike hasn't taken me off the list yet, and this morning I have a baby bird emergency I thought one of you might have some experience with. This is a tiny baby, half naked. Yesterday he was robust, and the Wildlife people advised me to put him in a nest up in the tree near where I found him, because the cats in the area were so interested. The hope was that the parents would return, find him and feed him. I was to check him this morning. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSOT: Migraines
Migraines happen for different reasons in different people. Finding an appropriate remedy is often trial error, both on the part of the doc the patient. In my case, I discovered that mine are triggered by chronic soft-tissue tension (ie:stress) in my shoulders, causing hunching tendon stiffness. My Mom's occur as a result of hormonal imbalances due to menopause, my friend's are a result of eating trigger foods. I found a very good osteopath, who will do much more aggressive adjustments than a typical chiropractor, allowing the tendons to stretch increasing blood flow. I've also learned how to do my own back neck stretches when I feel a headache coming on. I can pretty much make it disappear within 10 minutes after stretching relaxing backwards over an exercise ball. (Very large, soft ball). Everyone is different...keep searching until you find what works. I'm so glad to find that mine had such a simple answer that I now have control over them. Good luck! Heather -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSalgae
I don't believe I've seen CS actually kill algae yet. Or clarify alginated water either. It will, however kill all beneficial bacteria that your pond supports, so whatever you do, don't put it back into the pond (if your pond supports other life forms). Algae is technically a plant. In order to kill algae, all nutrients that specifically feed plants must be eliminated since it IS technically a plant, it requires photosynthesis to thrive. Without light nutrients, it will die. You can kill it using UV light specifically you can filter it out, or use a non-toxic polymer settler to sink it or smother it with non-toxic dyes, but for the health of the pond, it's best to just try to minimize it's presence. Unless of course it's a decorative pond with no living creatures in it. Then whatever chemicals you use wouldn't really matter. If your pond is fairly natural, exposed to sunlight, unfiltered, close to a lawn (fertilizer) or has fish/bird waste in it, algae will grow. No matter what. The presense of algae is mostly unsightly, not harmful. It's a sign that the water is fairly clean or in the process of being cleaned. It's a nuisance when it blooms, but for the most part, it is serving some purpose in it's own little niche. Personally, in my koi pond, I used to just settle it out with a polymer a couple of times between cleanings and make sure that no fertilizer ever got close to the edge. Also, if you have fish, don't feed them in the winter. Since most of the bacteria in a natural pond cease activity in cooler temps, the waste uneaten food in colder water (under 55 degrees) will overwhelm the biologics (bacteria) that digest it the result will be MORE fertilizer for the algae. Balance is the key. Heather -Original Message- From: Margaret Braithwaite [mailto:sunsh...@justinternet.com.au] Sent: Monday, December 02, 2002 3:44 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSalgae Hi everyone, Yesterday I removed 100ml of water from our outdoor pond, which was very green with algae. To this I added 30ml of CS. I fully expected that the water would have been perfectly clear today, but it is still exactly the same. Any ideas? Also the right side of my face swelled up (presumably sinus) So I irrigated my nasal passages, and ears, also gargled every couple of hours. The swelling went down within a couple of hours. Brilliant !! Best wishes to all Margaret B --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.419 / Virus Database: 235 - Release Date: 11/13/2002
RE: CSBlue is the Color of My Candidates Skin
Check out his linked site: http://www.mtlp.org/jones/ He truly does not look blue to me. Heather -Original Message- From: Acmeair [mailto:res00...@gte.net] Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 9:04 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSBlue is the Color of My Candidates Skin compare this photo in marshall's post to the photo in reid harvey's post. looks like someone is using blue filters or something to misinform.jim - Original Message - From: Marshall Dudley mailto:mdud...@execonn.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2002 5:43 PM Subject: Re: CSBlue is the Color of My Candidates Skin He doesn't look blue to me in that photo. Marshall James Allison wrote: Hrmmm, I'm going to email him, here's a more recent photo... Republican candidate for governor Judy Martz answers questions from a media panel during a debate at the Great Falls Civic Center Monday evening. Other candidates participating in the debate are Libertarian Stan Jones, center, and Democrat Mark O'Keefe. Yours in health, James Allison - Original Message -From: miss...@prodigy.net.mxTo: silver-list@eskimo.comSent: Wednesday, October 02, 2002 3:08 PMSubject: CSBlue is the Color of My Candidates Skin Wednesday, October 02, 2002 FOXNews Click on the URL below for the rest of this story: http://foxnews.com/story/0,2933,64692,00.html -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com image001.jpg
RE: CSWest Nile Virus - Speaking of mosquitoes....
*warning...hearsay speculation* Not that this is very practical, but I was told by someone recently that mosquitoes are initially attracted to the carbon dioxide that we all exhale. Some people apparently exhale more than others...they went on to tell me that a sure-fire method to send the little biters somewhere else would be to put a bucket of dry ice in a corner away from the humans since supposedly it produces carbon dioxide as it evaporates. They're supposed to freeze fall dead into the bucket. I have no proof that this is real, not having tried it myself yet... Heather -Original Message- From: lindael...@aol.com [mailto:lindael...@aol.com] Sent: Monday, August 05, 2002 10:12 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSWest Nile Virus - Speaking of mosquitoes In a message dated 8/5/02 10:16:08 AM Central Daylight Time, res00...@gte.net writes: i had read an article in the prevention mag., stating that taking a good amount of vitamin b-3 would repell the critters. so, i loaded us all with b-3 for about a week before we went. 5 days in the wild and not one bite till the last day. and that was only because dad forgot to pack the b-3, and it was wearing off. Okay, b-3, so far, and garlic, and permethrin. I'll try them all, and keep those suggestions coming, please! Thanks for the input so far. Any advice for the Raccoons? Linda
CSRE: OT:CSnuke it
All men have it too. To get the best benefit from the hormones present in your body, all of the hormones need to be balanced. Too much of one is not good; too little of it is also not good. Outside environmental influences can drastically change hormonal balances in both men women, causing many types of ailments, from obesity to migraines, to an unlimited list of things including thyroid disfunction, sexual disfunction on on. Even the food you eat can radically effect hormone balances in your body; say for instance, the phyto-estrogens in soy...the human body reads them as estrogen makes changes in body chemistry to regain balance. It's not such a simple subject, really. Heather -Original Message- From: Ode Coyote [mailto:coyote...@earthlink.net] Sent: Friday, August 02, 2002 6:26 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSnuke it All women will have cancer unless they reach menopause first Estrogen is, like, a hormone, right? Ken At 07:48 PM 8/1/02 EDT, you wrote: In a message dated 8/1/2002 6:18:24 PM Eastern Daylight Time, ddar...@centurytel.net writes: di(ethylhexyl)adepate (DEHA), considered a carcinogen, is found in plastic wrap. She also learned that the FDA had never studied the effect of microwave cooking on plastic-wrapped food. Claire began to wonder; Can cancer-causing particles seep into food covered with household plastic wrap while it is being microwaved? What is unbelievable is how little people know about xenoestrogens...the word actually means all pervasive estrogens. Anything that sits in plastic, like water and foods, you name it..most food products...the plastic leaks into the food. The fumes at the gas pump contain estrogens that you can inhale. It's is literally everywhere..and that's why one out of three will have cancer. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
RE: CSSource for recipes? Clarification, please.
-Original Message- From: Dean T. Miller [mailto:dtmil...@midiowa.net] Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2002 12:37 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSSource for recipes? Clarification, please. On Mon, 17 Jun 2002 16:01:05 EDT, lindael...@aol.com wrote: If I want to use it to disinfect countertops, do I use it full-strength? If I dilute it, how much do I add to water? Full strength. Since you have a CS maker, it'll cost less than any other disinfectant you can buy. I had a white laminate counter top at my previous home CS stained it plum-brown on the spots where I'd spilled. Evidently, whatever particles did come in contact with the minute pores in the laminate oxidized readily. (Ever seen tarnished silver jewelry? Same color.)I would definitely try it on an inconspicuous area before pouring it over the whole thing, unless it's black or some such. I eventually had some luck removing the stains with peroxide, but only after much repeated effort. Bleach, Soft Scrub, baking soda; all did NOT work. If you have tiles with white grout, I suggest never letting it touch any portion for aesthetic reasons. Heather King
RE: CSFwd: Fw: Symptoms associated w/ neck
My osteopath is very much like my chiropractor, in that there is definite manipulation. Some of the positions effects are the same. My osteopath tends to be more aggressive with some manipulations. I have chronic soft tissue tension in my scapular region/neck from working at a computer all day my osteopath is the only one who is able to keep me limber enough there to function without positional migraines. He is a medical doctor who does prescribe medications, but he also does pressure-point therapy, cranial manipulation and spinal adjustments. Heather -Original Message- From: Jonathan B. Britten [mailto:jbrit...@cc.nakamura-u.ac.jp] Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 6:48 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSFwd: Fw: Symptoms associated w/ neck Speaking of chiros, someone in my area just opened up an osteopathy clinc, charging only ¥2,500 for a 50-minute session. I have read a bit about osteo in Weil's Spontaneous Healing, but he referred only to cranial manipulation. I wonder whether someone expert in this topic can reply directly r.e. what I should request/expect in a visit to a typical osteopath. I have no special problems but would enjoy getting tuned up. JBB piaffe1...@aol.com wrote: In a message dated 6/4/02 10:56:25 AM Eastern Daylight Time, mdev...@eskimo.com writes: With so many ways to offend and be offended in the crudeness of text, it's great to see folks balancing expression with kindness so well! Good work. My most sincere apologies if I offended in any way! I only meant to suggest that some, not all, chiropractors, used a technique that might not be appropriate. I am in full agreement with DR Green regarding better ways. Sincerely, Heather Leigh Akers -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSNew subject: cs and VCO
We use it in anything we need fat for, including baking, sauteeing (great aroma with chicken). My very-overweight dog has lost 5 pounds since I started putting in his food. Before, I just gave him less food and he would be begging constantly for anything. Now, he's eating a quarter less dog food never seems hungry. It's not exactly scientific, but he seems satisfied and is still very active, so we'll keep it up. I love the taste, so it pretty much goes in everything for me, too. Heather -Original Message- From: John A. Stanley [mailto:j...@natel.net] Sent: Wed 5/15/2002 8:16 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Cc: Subject: Re: CSNew subject: cs and VCO In article 13f.e639205.2a139...@aol.com, lindael...@aol.com wrote: In a message dated 5/14/02 10:23:56 PM Central Daylight Time, j...@natel.net writes: Just FYI, the www.wildernessfamilynaturals.com site is a distributer for coconut-info.com's coconut oil. I order from Wilderness Family Naturals because they take credit cards. It's very nice stuff. I buy it by the 5 lb bucket. Coconut oil is new to me. Could we have a dialog about the uses that would make it practical to buy in 5-gal buckets? That seems like a LOT of stuff! Please note that Heather King said she buys it by the five pound bucket, not 5 gallon. I bought the one gallon bucket for $50, shipping included. I think handcrafted organic vegetable oil all the way from the Philipines for $12.50 per quart is very reasonable. -- John A. Stanley j...@natel.net -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSNew subject: cs and VCO
I get mine here: http://www.coconut-info.com/purchase.htm It's very nice stuff. I buy it by the 5 lb bucket. Heather -Original Message- From: M. G. Devour [mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 3:12 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSNew subject: cs and VCO Hello all, My wife has started using Virgin Coconut Oil and it seems to have similar benefits to cs. Can they be used together? John Where did you find to buy it, John? M. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSany suggestions?
Ginger in any form...fresh, steeped in tea, sipped slowly. Also, peppermint tea is a great stomach soother, but from what I understand, peppermint is for indigestion ginger is definitely for nausea. Ginger ale may work in a pinch, but slices of fresh ginger root in a cup of boiling water can't be beat. I used it when I had the flu so bad I had the dry heaves and it calmed my stomach before the first cup was finished. Heather -Original Message- From: Marshalee Hallett [mailto:liah...@utah-inter.net] Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2002 11:25 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSany suggestions? Hi, folks! My daughter-in-law is newly pregnant and morning sickness is hitting her like a ton of bricks. Any suggestions on something she can try? She is taking B vitamins, a 50 mg complex. Thanks, Marshalee -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSRe[2]: CSGMO ACTION ALERTS
Yes, but what if the clean seeds you planted last year become contaminated seeds from GMO cross-pollination? Can you sue Monsanto for the contamination? Probably only if you beat them to the punch...before they can sue you for patent infringement... Heather -Original Message- From: Ode Coyote [mailto:coy...@alltel.net] Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 8:18 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSRe[2]: CSGMO ACTION ALERTS Reqardless of what Monsanto might be selling, the farmer does not have to buy it. He can plant any seeds he wants to. Ken How about this one. Just a handful of companies can control the food supply of the world, and the ultimate pricing of such. Using terminator technology, all seeds produced by the plants are sterile. Therefore, the farmer MUST buy new seeds every year, at the going price, which is decided by a small handful of companies. Want to see the ultimate in greed and power? There it is. No one eats unless they can pay your price. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
RE: CSCS in an Aquarium
I too have used CS to take care of fungus fin rot on individual koi, outside the pond. Works great! I went through a period of time where every fish had something disgusting going on it wasn't until I tried CS that I got the most control. Carp pox was not controlled with this method at that time, although as I sold off my show fish (they grew too big for the pond), the remaining koi with pox gradually got better. I discovered that if the pond water temp remained above 68 degrees, the patches gradually disappeared until I could find nothing on any fish, with no other remedy. It may have been the CS, but it happened over such a long period that I'm not sure if the limited exposure they had to it outside the pond would have been enough. From what I have read, it is basically a cosmetic deformity that otherwise doesn't contribute to the demise of the fish unless it is in an unfortunate spot (gills, eyes, etc). Also, I believe that the increasing bio-health of the water (due to fewer fish lower waste load) the increase in temperature contributed to the pox elimination. There are still 3 of the 5 koi who had it in that pond there are still no signs of it. Heather -Original Message- From: altanation [mailto:altanat...@supanet.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2002 12:07 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSCS in an Aquarium - Original Message - From: altanation mailto:altanat...@supanet.com To: James Allison mailto:apothec...@cox.net Sent: Saturday, April 06, 2002 9:18 AM Subject: Re: CSCS in an Aquarium CS / Fresh water fish. I have been using CS for treating fresh water fish, mostly various carp varieties i.e. goldfish to koi. In the pond or the in the aquarium the fish waste material is usually consumed using various types of biological filters which depend on bacteria and oxygen to function. A normal aquarium system is set up where the filter media, usually gravel or baked clay granules lines the bottom of the tank and oxygenated water is constantly moved through it using air tubes. The bacteria eventually flourishes within the media and breaks down the waste in to a less hazardous mixture. For ponds the same principles apply but on a much larger scale. The media is not within the pond but contained within separate filter tanks. The introduction of CS in to the system will attack the bacteria within the media and kill the filter. The fish will eventually die, poisoned by their own waste. Apart from some parasites almost all of the hazards to fresh water fish are singled celled and thus perfect for the CS menu. By removing the fish from the pond or aquarium CS can be used for the fast effective, non toxic and very cheap treatment for white spot ,velvet, fin body rot, fungus flukes etc etc. I use a mixture of 650ml CS @ 6 PPM to I litre pond water, adding the CS gradually, keeping a watch full eye on the patient. I suggest that readers might start at a lower level , 200 ml per 1litre, to gain trust in the treatment. Paradoxically carp pox is singled celled but I have as yet not achieved any results, I may try injection. Comments appr00 DH - Original Message - From: James Allison mailto:apothec...@cox.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, April 05, 2002 5:08 AM Subject: Re: CSCS in an Aquarium I usually tell people that if they need to treat a fish, to isolate it in a plastic bag by itself. We used to breed fresh water fish, actually came out with a nice purple metallic colored guppy that was very popular in the pet stores and I guess I still have a fondness for things with fins. Anyhow, once an aquarium is established, it has its own little eco-system that depends on a balance of bacteria and other things. If that established balance is disturbed, it can cause a lot of fish to start floating on their bellies! Colloidal silver in an aquarium environment is something that will most definitely disturb it. Yours in health, James Allison - Original Message - From: Dan Williamson mailto:danw6...@mail.cannet.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 11:37 AM Subject: CSCS in an Aquarium Has anyone used CS in an aquarium populated with fresh water fish to control algae? -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to:
RE: CSOT, diabetes and MS
Hi Marshalee, I don't know about specific supplements for either, but I do know that diet figures VERY prominently in living with either condition. Limiting (or eliminating) sugar aspartame, as well as all high-glycemic-index foods (potatoes, rice, beans, beets) will at least ease some of the discomfort of MS make the diabetes (if Type II) very manageable. A Friend of mine was diagnosed with both last year when she changed her eating habits to this mode, she found she had very few symptoms and lost weight too. She is working with her doc to adjust medications (I don't know what...he's an MD, but practicing as an integrated Naturopath/MD), but she looks great we walk a mile every day at lunch together. Sorry I don't have more information... Heather -Original Message- From: Marshalee Hallett [mailto:liah...@utah-inter.net] Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 7:36 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSOT, diabetes and MS Dear List, I`m finding out about diabetes and possible MS right now. Anyone out there have any words of knowledge for me?? Love, Marshalee PS, My GTT numbers were 90 FBS and 160 2 hours after the nasty sweet stuff... I`ll be having more blood work and possibly an MRI soon. Yuck I`d rather have stage 4 liver cancer than MS, much quicker...
RE: CSKefir !!
I believe I understood that the risk in fermenting coconut was with fermenting the solids, not the milk; and that the temperature of the fermentation/amount of lipids were also factors in causing the toxicity. I can't remember it exactly either...time to do a little research! :o) Heather -Original Message- From: Connie [mailto:wufn...@stargate.net] Sent: Monday, February 11, 2002 5:11 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSKefir !! Tracy, are you on the Kefir making list? There was something said in the last 6 weeks or so about coconut milk kefir. I think there is some risk. I am sorry I do not know beyond this. Couldn't tell you what risk. Connie From: Nick Grant nwgr...@inet.net.nz Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 13:48:55 +1300 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSKefir !! Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com Resent-Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 16:50:14 -0800 I wonder if you could make kefir in Coconut milk? Tracy - Original Message - From: Connie mailto:wufn...@stargate.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, 12 February 2002 08:46 Subject: Re: CSKefir !! http://users.chariot.net.au/~dna/kefirpage.html Go take a look at Dom's site in re to soy kefir. You can make kefir with soy milk, as well as rice milk, almond milk, goat milk, even Water kefir. (kefir d'aqua) The one draw back with soy kefir, the grains do not do as well in soy milk. Allowing them to ferment, periodically in other milks- dairy, goat is necessary to keep the grains healthy, productive. I believe Dom recommends at least once every 4 or 5 days. Connie From: ijzendo...@webtv.net Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 13:08:51 -0600 (CST) To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSKefir !! Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com Resent-Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 11:09:06 -0800 Hi, I have not tried it because I love the goatmilk kefir. Soymilk is supposed to work just fine. Virginia D. Be kind to animals, hug your pet every day From: Martin, Bill (CXO) bill.mar...@compaq.com Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 09:11:41 -0700 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSKefir !! Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com Resent-Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 08:12:44 -0800 I checked the web for more info on Kefir, and found that for the most part, animal milk is used in the process. Does anyone know if you can use something other - say: soy milk - as a substitute? -Original Message- From: DJG [mailto:ql...@tds.net] Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 6:46 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSKefir !! Hey! I've been making my own Kefir for several months now. It's quite the amazing stuff. I'm getting pretty good at it too. There is no comparison to yogurt and kefir. Kefir is superior in every way. Do a search and you'll be amazed what can be done with it, and the health benefits. Heck, you can even make your own booze with it in a pinch lol. Like CS, the cost is very low, and only the initial price of the grains, but they grow and multiply, then you give them to someone else. The cycle never ends.
RE: CSOT: kefir
If you're up to joining the kefir list, there are many folks who share kefir grains on a regular basis. The list owner Dominic regularly sends out babies to those who request, from Australia. I live in Seattle have a set of his, but I also have a set from another donor which is slightly different than Dom's. The list address is: kefir_mak...@yahoogroups.com, Dom's email is also on his website: http://users.chariot.net.au/~dna/kefirpage.html Not commercially connected...just a happy kefir-drinker...(must be the milk alcohol). :o) Heather -Original Message- From: Nick Grant [mailto:nwgr...@inet.net.nz] Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 9:58 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSkefir Would anyone know where I can get this Kefir in New Zealand? Anyone - anyone at all? :) Tracy -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSOT: Hypertension..
I'm not sure about the CO-Q10 factor, but I definitely had my eyes opened when I started reading about coconut oil and the Paleo-diet. Here's an interesting link: http://www.westonaprice.org/myths_truths/myths_truths_nutrition.html Heather -Original Message- From: Grant [mailto:g...@island.net] Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 9:59 AM To: Silver - List Subject: CSHypertension.. Hi List: Does anyone know if CO-Q10 really is effective against Hypertension.?? Anyone know of anything that would dissolve Plaque in the arteries??? Tks.. Grant.. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSOT: Kefir was Yeast infections
If one is lactose intolerant, one may find that kefir is quite tolerable
as the bio organisms in the product consume the majority (if not all) of
the lactose in the milk, leaving (at times) a definite separation of
curd whey. Usually, though, milk kefir is creamy thick, reminiscent
of buttermilk in texture yogurt in flavor. Kefir can be made in a
variety of mediums, such as non-chlorinated water with fresh lemon
dried fig, fruit juice, coconut milk or soy (although with all the
conversations about soy G.E. lately, I'd wonder if I was limiting my
overall benefits by using it). Here's a wonderful link to educate
yourself about the history, benefits and varieties of kefir. Enjoy!
http://users.chariot.net.au/~dna/kefirpage.html
There is also a kefir list which does what we do on this list by
contributing experiences, failures, successes techniques. Click on the
Kefir-making Community link on the above page to subscribe. I'm not
affiliated in any way...I just find Dom's site delightful informative.
We can discuss this more in depth off-list if you like...oh, Dom lives
in Australia or NZ, I believe...
Stay well!
Heather
-Original Message-
From: Nick Grant [mailto:nwgr...@inet.net.nz]
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 12:38 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSYeast infections
Heather
I cannot tolerate protein in milk - so what would kefir be like in that
regard?
Tracy
- Original Message -
From: Heather King (LCA) hk...@microsoft.com
To: Langsley Russell bullo...@nitline.com; silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Thursday, 17 January 2002 04:32
Subject: RE: CSYeast infections
Actually, I've done away with all symptoms of candida infestation in
less than 3 months on homemade kefir. I drink 1/3 C of CS in the
evening
before bed have a tall glass of fresh kefir (cultured organic milk)
on
an empty stomach each morning. Worked like a charm; tastes great, too.
Most live kefir cultures have a form of yeast that is cannibalistic
toward candida and attacks it voraciously from what I understand. I'd
say it's probably true, considering how I feel now. Acid reflux is
gone,
dry skin is gone, itchy red patches in sensitive areas are gone,
digestion/elimination is very normal again.
Heather
-Original Message-
From: Langsley Russell [mailto:bullo...@nitline.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 2:08 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSYeast infections
Hi Tracy.
You said:
Ahhh, but does it cure it? If it is in the bowel (which is where it
likes
to live and thrive) no amount of douching in the world will change
that.
What do you recommend as the most efficacious treatment to CURE the
fungal
infection in the bowel?
LTR }}:{(
Langsley T Russell
Bulloved Bulldogs
bullo...@nitline.com
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http://www.bullovedbulldogs.com/
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RE: CSYeast infections
Actually, I've done away with all symptoms of candida infestation in
less than 3 months on homemade kefir. I drink 1/3 C of CS in the evening
before bed have a tall glass of fresh kefir (cultured organic milk) on
an empty stomach each morning. Worked like a charm; tastes great, too.
Most live kefir cultures have a form of yeast that is cannibalistic
toward candida and attacks it voraciously from what I understand. I'd
say it's probably true, considering how I feel now. Acid reflux is gone,
dry skin is gone, itchy red patches in sensitive areas are gone,
digestion/elimination is very normal again.
Heather
-Original Message-
From: Langsley Russell [mailto:bullo...@nitline.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 2:08 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSYeast infections
Hi Tracy.
You said:
Ahhh, but does it cure it? If it is in the bowel (which is where it
likes
to live and thrive) no amount of douching in the world will change
that.
What do you recommend as the most efficacious treatment to CURE the
fungal
infection in the bowel?
LTR }}:{(
Langsley T Russell
Bulloved Bulldogs
bullo...@nitline.com
http://www.yahoogroups.com/group/The-Holistic-Bulldogger
http://www.bullovedbulldogs.com/
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RE: CSMy Arthritis...Still
I have tried to eat the foods suggested for A+ (my type) blood found that I was miserable. I had heartburn constantly, was always hungry, felt headachy sluggish. I had to quit and go back to eating meat, fish veggies just to get the energy to go to work every day. I may be A+ blood type, but my body doesn't think I can be a vegetarian. At all. There has to be more to than blood. Heather -Original Message- From: Kevin Nolan [mailto:ken...@optusnet.com.au] Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 6:31 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSMy Arthritis...Still A few months back I posted D'adamo's blood-type diet site, at the time in relation to auto-immune disorders. Personally, found his food listings for my A+ blood type to be hit-and-miss. There are more factors than just blood type, and one fellow that seems to get the whole picture is Dr William L Wolcott. His book The Metabolic Typing Diet makes much sense. The web site is http://www.metabolictyping.com/index2.html. Kevin Nolan -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSUltrasonic Vaporizer
My ultrasonic is a Vick's, not sure of a model number, though. Heather -Original Message- From: Craig Chamberlin [mailto:c...@itsmyplace.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2001 11:31 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSUltrasonic Vaporizer Greetings, Thought I had saved it, but lost the name of the ultrasonic vaporizer with a model number 5100 I think. Could some kind soul tell me the name. Ciao, Craig -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSThe dog with bronchial pneumonia
I don't know about your brand, but my Vick's Ultrasonic had a removable box in the base of the unit with a poly-fiber pre-filter a second chamber (in the same box) filled with charcoal. My removable, easy-fill reservoir sits on top of the base when removed, the filter box was easily visible. I hope this helps! Heather -Original Message- From: Josephine [mailto:joseph...@poidogs.com] Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 3:57 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSThe dog with bronchial pneumonia Hi Heather , Thanks for the reminder. I remember you mentioning this a while back. Well, I removed the water container and checked and checked all over the container and the holder and there was nothing removable that looked like a charcoal filter. I am using a Sunbeam. Can you perhaps tell me where I should look or what I should jiggle on this humidifier to find that filter?? Thanks again, Josephine Josephine, Some of those ultrasonic humidifiers have particulate filters in their bases made up of activated charcoal. Did you remove one (or have one in your humidifier)? The charcoal will remove CS particles from the water before it is vaporized...I discovered the hard way (long respiratory infection) that in order to get real CS out, the filter cannot remain in the unit. See if you have a filter in yours remove it...you may get even better results. Heather
RE: CSIntestinal Bacteria and CS
What about homemade kefir? Heather -Original Message- From: Al Riley [mailto:a...@domsys.com] Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 8:09 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSIntestinal Bacteria and CS Hello Fellow Silver Searchers, I have just completed a scan for various bacteria in my intestinal system. The Dr. thought I might have Leaky Gut so she ordered a very comprehensive testing. It came back with the results that I don't have Leaky Gut Syndrome, and no candida, but it also said that I have Zero amount of Lactobacillus. She speculated that the colloidal silver killed not only the bad bacteria, but also the good. I have had IBS for about a year and have been experiencing very fast transit times for my food. She also speculated that the CS would NOT have been a problem if the transit times of my digestive process had not been so fast. IE: the CS is still active by the time it gets to my intestines so it kills everything. She recommended adding a large amount of fiber to slow the transit times. She also said to take a probiotic with lactobacillus in it, but no bifidus bacteria. Can anyone recommend a good probiotic I have heard so many stories of high priced probiotics that are basically dead, that I though I would turn to the experts. What do you guys use/recommend for a probiotic??? hugs al
RE: CSThe dog with bronchial pneumonia
Josephine, Some of those ultrasonic humidifiers have particulate filters in their bases made up of activated charcoal. Did you remove one (or have one in your humidifier)? The charcoal will remove CS particles from the water before it is vaporized...I discovered the hard way (long respiratory infection) that in order to get real CS out, the filter cannot remain in the unit. See if you have a filter in yours remove it...you may get even better results. Heather -Original Message- From: Josephine [mailto:joseph...@poidogs.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2001 1:23 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSThe dog with bronchial pneumonia I used about a fourth to a third quart CS almost every night. Just ran it for a few hours through the humidifier (you can get it at Kmart for less than 35 bucks) .Someone on this list advised an ultrasonic humidifier and not the other types. Oh, and I also added some to her drinking water too. No, the dog needs a lot more therapy as her ailment has been a long-term problem but initially it made her cough a lot of yuck up. I now have a CS generator and have made and used about 2 quarts so far. Josephine - Original Message - From: Jan Carew mailto:ja...@gatorzw.com To: silver list post mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2001 10:35 PM Subject: CSThe dog with bronchial pneumonia Hi Josephine, 4 quarts on one dog!! Whatever is an ultrasonic humidifier? Please tell us the dog's better. Jan
RE: CSNewbie Question...
I've mixed it with everything with no lessening of its effects. Ice water, tomato juice, tea. My husband hates the taste but believes in it, so we disguise it often for him. I don't like the taste either particularly, but I have this thing about it not really being CS unless I can taste it, so I take mine virgin. :o) Heather -Original Message- From: roussie [mailto:boudic...@mindspring.com] Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2001 10:05 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSNewbie Question... Hi I'm new to the list, and have a question... Is there any problem with mixing CS with other liquids at the time of consumption? Say tea or juice, for instance? My son asked- for some reason he dislikes taking it, though there is no bad taste- he'd just rather mix it with something else. (I think it's more of a 'head thing'...) I wasn't sure... Any information would be helpful... Thanks in advance, ='leigh -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSAntibiotics and the Pill
Besides, antibiotics won't work on a virus anyway. -Original Message- From: Judith Thamm [mailto:galing...@chariot.net.au] Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2001 11:48 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSAntibiotics and the Pill Dear Tony, Does taking antibiotics result in contraceptive pill becoming less effective? I believe it doesn't - only - why would you want to take an antibiotic? anti = against biosis=life; an against life product - it would only impair the person's immune system. Does taking CS make the pill less effective? A colloid does not interreact with a drug unless it contained fungal, bacterial or viral contamination. A young adult who is on the pill and who has just come down with 'flu wants to know. Her mother has offered her CS for the 'flu symptoms, and the CS is said to be a natural antibiotic. She seems to think that the pill is made ineffective by antibiotics, thus increasing the risk of unwanted pregnancy. She would like to take CS but doesn't want to become pregnant right now. :, giving up sex for a while doesn't seem to be an option. [The population would decline if it was ;) ] I am not aware of antibiotics affecting the pill and, if so, would really like to know the pathway. Avoid antibiotics, take the CS, continue sex, continue the pill. Regards, Judith. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSSilver against Viruses?
They kill cattle by the thousands because that's easier/cheaper than providing clean, healthy feed and large enough pens for cattle to move about freely. It only becomes an epidemic when cattle are housed on top of one another without access to basic clean-animal necessities. Cattle in open fields with room to move, fed a variety of good foods (not just corn soy to fatten) get over hoof mouth just fine. Some in the same field don't even catch it. -Original Message- From: Marshalee Hallett [mailto:liah...@utah-inter.net] Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2001 8:18 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSSilver against Viruses? Foot and mouth is rarely caught by humans, and when caught by a cow it is the equilivent to a cold that they get over in about a week. It is not a concern. Marshall So then why do they kill the cattle by the thousands if it is not a concern? -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CStropical disease and cs
What about zapping? Aren't parasites generally too large to be much affected by CS? Just curious... Heather King -Original Message- From: kukurippa _ [mailto:kukuri...@hotmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2001 10:29 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CStropical disease and cs Greetings, Reid, I hope CS will work against these pathogens (?) I was in India in '79 for 6 months and during that time I had some form of food poisoning; Dengue fever; and bacillery dysentry. My health has been in a downward spiral ever since. (Wondering if those vaccinations I had prior to the trip also contributed to my decline... time for homeopathy?). Here's hoping CS will help. Eleanor From: Reid Harvey ceram...@bol-online.com Dear List, Greetings from Bangladesh. I would be curious to know what anyone here may think of the possibility that CS could be effective against mosquito born illnesses like malaria and dengue fever, either as a prophylaxis or a cure. Or for that matter, how about CS as a cure for the water born illnesses: dysentery, cholera or typhoid. Does anyone know of any kind of evidence, or perhaps someone could hazard a guess. _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSNATURAL FLEA KILLER IS SAFE!
Any decent garden store should have it in the potting soil area. Heather King -Original Message- From: svr9...@att.net [mailto:svr9...@att.net] Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2001 7:40 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSNATURAL FLEA KILLER IS SAFE! Ok Flea experts, lets hear some more from people with experience in using Diatomaceous Earth. Sounds good, but when the are diametrically opposed views from people who seem to have personal knowledge of the subject, it creates confusion in the ranks of the dummies, of which I am a leader. So, if it is decided by a majority of experienced propel on the subject, WHERE may I purchase it? Steve ** Original Subject: Re: CSOff Topic - Fleas ** Original Sender: dtmil...@midiowa.net (Dean T. Miller) ** Original Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 04:08:52 + ** Original Message follows... Hi Gladys, Whoa!! Diatomaceous Earth is NOT dangerous. You can drink it. You can bathe in it. You *can* dust your underarms with it (if you're so inclined). Just don't breath heavy concentrations of it (the same goes of almost any chemical, including alcohol or vinegar). You can make it into a paste (it doesn't become inactivated in water, which contradicts another message in this thread). DE can be dusted on house plants -- or garden plants -- to keep most insects away. It can be rubbed into the coats of cats and dogs, and the animals won't get hurt by DE when they lick their coats (it probably will help them). It can be dusted onto pets' bedding, and into rugs. It will drastically reduce the population of carpet mites (a major cause of household allergies). Like colloidal silver, diatomaceous earth is one of the great, all-around preventatives produced by nature. On Tue, 24 Jul 2001 13:49:06 -0400, Gladys Williams gw...@juno.com wrote: Once again thanks to all--you guys are great. But this stuff sounds way to dangerous for me. I was looking for something really good for internal human parasites not fleas. You know like very strong WWF death squad HERBS that would go in there and kill those little suckers. The D.E. sounds fine for normal folks, but I am way to clumsy and forgetful to deal with something dangerous. In a week I would forget what it was for and start dusting my underarms or something. Thanks anyway,.Gladys -- Dean -- from (almost) Des Moines -- KB0ZDF -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com ** - End Original Message --- **
RE: CSOT: RECENT RESULTS
I'm curious about the effect of Glucosamine, condroitin, CMO on neck vertebrae. I have been diagnosed with osteo in the region of Cervical 5, 6 7 and experience near-constant grinding intermittent migraines. I wonder if these items would help cushion any portion of the movement. Do they only work on sealed joints? Is there synovial fluid in your neck? Thanks for any thoughts... Heather King -Original Message- From: brooks bradley [mailto:liat...@flash.net] Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2001 5:31 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSOT: RECENT RESULTS To all interested list members. Recently, through a rather serendipitous circumstance, we discovered that a variation of our original arthritis protocol appears to offer a welcome reinforcement/improvement methodology. We have been experiencing a significant incidence (20 to 25%) of re-incursion of measureable arthritic symptomsespecially among our older experimental volunteers-primarily, but not exclusively of the osteoarthritis types. We invoked several different variations of our protocol, involving changes in the different percentagesand protocol components..and experienced some intersting results. Without trying your patience through relating what did not yield effective address, I will relate.what did. The most rapid, and effective alleviation came through a significant increase in each affected volunteer's quantitative intake of gluscosamine and chondroitin. e.g. In those cases formerly---but no longer---satisfactorily responsive, the daily dosage wasessentiallydoubled (i.e. from 2000 mg GS to 4000mg). In some cases, to 6000 mg. The response was dramatic and quite rapid.considering the age of the volunteers and the fact that the body's utilization of these compounds is measureably less rapid than those more directly linked to the blood-borne constitutents of the cardiovascular system. Definitive improvement manifested in a majority of caseswithin 4 days.or less. Additionally, from among the affected population about 25% displayed delayed---or small---response..even to the increased dosage of GS and Chrondroitin. Significantly, a ten day course of CMO corrected EVERY ONE of these laggard cases. Although only 4 in number, I believe it safe to infer a similar number of persons from among the general population-at-risk, may express the tendency to experience relapses relative to the activity of the T cells located in the synovial fluid of the joint capsule. If in fact, this is the case, it might be wise for older sufferers of arthritis centered in articulating joints.to seriously consider a prophylactic course of CMO--annually. The Walmart Corporation now carries CMO under the Natrol brand name (90 capsules for about 28.00). We utilized it, together with others, and found it to be just as effective as products we paid 100.00 for. This is not an endorsement..just our findings. All of the volunteers involved in the above-mentioned circumstance are, presently, maintaining the increased levels of GS and Chrondroitinsome at the 6000 mg of GS level. Only one from a population of 16 has experienced continuing complications and these are the result of an additional physical insult and a pronounced condition of varicosity (which presents a continuous environnment of invasive fluids into the joint capsule). He is opting for Radio Frequency Ablation type sclerotherapy..which we believe will successfully resolve his primary problem. I apologize for this lengthy post and will try to move any further commentary to the Alternative Silver list. Sincerely, Brooks Bradley. p.s. Interested parties might consider switching to Enzymatically Hydrolyzed Collagen as a source for a chrondroitin-like fraction..as it is, essentally, the near equal of C. Sulphate and is MUCH LESS expensive, being only about $10.00 for a quart container of powder. Most Walmart stores carry this product in their supplement section. I am not shilling for Walmart; they just seem to be convenient-and economical for our tight-fisted buyer.
RE: CS Hoof/Mouth Foot/Mouth
Not that I particularly agree with everything the FDA does...cattle are ruminants with multiple stomachs who require bacteria in their gut to digest their food. CS would kill that bacteria if cattle (goats, sheep) ingested it by mouth. CS is injectable, however. Heather -Original Message- From: Marshall Dudley [mailto:mdud...@execonn.com] Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2001 7:28 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS Hoof/Mouth Foot/Mouth I believe that CS is very effective against HM disease, but for some odd reason the FDA has outlawed allowing cattle to drink it. Marshall itssu...@aol.com wrote: Last several days our local paper has been carrying articles about preparedness in case or when this might hit the US. http://www.dmregister.com/news/categories/headline-index.html If CS were to be used, starting now, in drinking water, wouldn't it provide some measure of protection against this disease? Have seen no indication that it is a mechanical situation (like the folded prion), so assume it is bacterial or viral. Many farmers here are a little uncomfortable.Thanks. suzy -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSOT: Ants Aspartame
Usually, the large black ants we get in temperate North America are nectar eaters, although the form THAT takes is often considered very weird. They are known to farm aphids squeeze the aphids' waste (honeydew/nectar) for food. They keep predators away from the plant/tree that their aphids inhabit will just go away if the aphids are eradicated. I did an Integrated Pest Management project/thesis to qualify for my pesticide applicator's license here in Washington State, with the integrated part being totally organic. In a known ant infestation, I checked the (spruce) tree outside the home sure enough, the entire tree was infested with aphids. I obtained 2 packets of Lady Beetles (they bred like crazy in the packets, so I subsequently lucked out had thousands of larvae too, which are known as aphid lions for VERY good reason. At dusk I soaked the ground at the base of the tree hosed a few million aphids out of the tree, onto the ground (for Lady Beetle food, to let them know prey was plentiful). When it was dark, I spread the packets of beetles larvae at the base of the tree (they fly upward toward sunlight...I didn't want them to leave before they did the job)and in less than a week, there no ants to be found. They were not killed directly by the Lady Beetles, but I'm certain they starved quickly once the aphid food source was eliminated. I got the beetles at my local garden supply in mid-spring. The beetles moved on in about 3 weeks, looking for greener pastures. Heather -Original Message- From: Ode Coyote [mailto:coy...@alltel.net] Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2001 8:41 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSAspartame: Is there Reliable Research that Supports the Conclusions Below? Probably works by starving the ants who think they're getting something to eat and prefer sugar over other foods. Do they die in their tracks? ken At 04:20 PM 4/10/01 -0600, you wrote: It is a great ant poison; just sprinkle a bit about. I think Betty Martini's information is based on sound research; search for missionpossible or similar. JOH -Original Message- From: Ode Coyote [mailto:coy...@alltel.net] Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2001 6:47 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSAspartame: Is there Reliable Research that Supports the Conclusions Below? I showed this article [privately] to a close Chemistry PHD friend a couple of years ago who runs a new drug research department for a major pharmaceutical company [name and company withheld but I can pick up the phone and call him or e-mail him any time] I don't remember much of the specific the gobbledegook but he was very familiar with aspartame and what it did in the body. He didn't seem too alarmed and pointed out several untruths, half truths, distortions and misconceptions in the article. A couple of items gave him some pause to think. All in all, most of the article seems to be hogwash with a possible kernel of truth. Personally, I don't like the stuff because it tastes like s**t. Ken At 08:06 AM 4/10/01 EDT, you wrote: List: This article should be read in its entirety. Roger Subject: Aspartame WORLD ENVIRONMENTAL CONFERENCE and the MULTIPLE SCLEROSIS FOUNDATION FDA IS SUING FOR COLLUSION WITH MONSANTO. Article written by Betty Martini I have spent several days lecturing at the WORLD ENVIRONMENTAL CONFERENCE on ASPARTAME: Marketed as 'NutraSweet,' 'Equal,' and 'Spoonful.' In the keynote address by the EPA, they announced that there was an epidemic of multiple sclerosis and systemic lupus, and they did not understand what toxin was causing this to be rampant across the United States. I explained I was there to lecture on exactly that subject. When the temperature of Aspartame exceeds 86 degrees F, the wood alcohol in ASPARTAME coverts to formaldehyde and then to formic acid, which in turn causes metabolic acidosis. (Formic acid is the poison found in the sting of fire ants.) The methanol toxicity mimics multiple sclerosis; thus, people were being diagnosed with having multiple sclerosis in error. The multiple sclerosis is not a death sentence, where methanol toxicity is. In the case of systemic lupus, we are finding it has become almost as rampant as multiple sclerosis, especially in Diet Coke and Diet Pepsi drinkers. Also, with methanol toxicity, the victims usually drink three to four 12 oz. cans of them per day, some even more. In the cases of systemic lupus, which is triggered by ASPARTAME, the victim usually does not know that the aspartame is the culprit. The victim continues its use aggravating the lupus to such a degree, that sometimes it becomes life threatening. When we get people off the aspartame, those with systemic lupus usually become asymptotic. Unfortunately, we cannot reverse this disease. On the other hand, in the case of those diagnosed with Multiple Sclerosis, (when in reality, the disease is methanol toxicity), most of the
CSOT: Aspartame info
I sent this Aspartame info to a friend thinking she'd be interested this is what I got back...I realize this is somewhat off-topic but it's a little confusing to the general masses...just who is right? Heather -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2000 11:25 AM Hey Heather! Thanks for the info, although it doesn't look like much of it is true - here is a link to a page that someone has researched on the topic: http://www.snopes.com/toxins/aspartam.htm This site (www.snopes.com) is really good for finding out if these things are true - some of them are and some of them aren't, and it's great to know! :) -Original Message- From: Heather King (LCA) Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2000 10:15 AM Subject: FW: More on wonderful mainstream medicine Importance: Low Mother Used Aspartame During Pregnancy From Betty Martini mission-possible-...@altavista.net 12-6-00 Betty, I am 31 1/2 years old and changed to Diet Coke from Dr. Pepper a year ago to lose weight, which I did! However, since that time, I have suffered a severe clinical depression, worsening of my vision, and muscle/joint pain, and most alarming of all, memory loss! To make matters worse, during my pregnancy with my 9 year old, I consumed sugar free frozen yogurt (I craved it!) and he was born 4 months early, weighed 1 pound, nine ounces and now suffers from Cerebral Palsy and mental retardation. Until now, we all assumed that these were both due solely to premature birth. Now I wonder if he was born prematurely because I consumed Aspartame and if so, did the Aspartame cause all of this? I am outraged! I want to know, are there any class action law suits being filed at this time? More importantly, if I stop using the Aspartame products, can my good health be restored, or am I permanently damaged? Any information you could give would be very much appreciated! Regards, Lisa G. Jenkins Dear Lisa, First let me say my heart goes out to you. I feel as much outrage because you see the FDA knows aspartame triggers birth defects and don't even have the decency to put a warning on aspartame for pregnant women. Now they are being petitioned to even allow it unlabeled and I'll send you that post. The FDA are very aware of Dr. Diana Dow Edwards studies on birth defects. I asked them why they didn't accept that study and they even refuse to answer the question along with 25 others that went along with it. Also, Dr. Louis Elsas testified before Congress (Pediatric Professor, Emory University, Genetics) about aspartame being a teratogen and neurotoxin. Read it in its completion on www.dorway.com Be sure to read Aspartame Murders Infants by James Bowen, M.D. on www.dorway.com . It also goes into celebral palsy. As to depression, the phenylalanine in aspartame lowers the seizure threshold and depletes serotonin. Lowered serotonin triggers manic depression, panic attacks, anxiety, rage, mood swings, suicidal tendencies, etc. As to vision loss, the wood alcohol in aspartame converts to formaldehyde and then formic acid, even in the retina of the eye and destroys the optic nerve. Read What's Blinding the World on www.dorway.com Dr. Morgan Raiford who diagnosed many of those who went blind in the 80's did say if it was in the wet stage vision can return. As to joint pain, aspartame hardens the synovial fluids and causes this horrible joint pain. Now Searle (original manufacturer - Monsanto bought them in l985 and has since sold) has made Celebrex for this joint pain so they can make more money on the agony their product has caused the world. And Celebrex too is a very dangerous drug, in the first 13 weeks on the market 10 people died and other had gastrointestinal problems, etc. It also causes hemorrhaging and I've talked to several people who said their doctor took them off of it because of the side effects, mainly the bleeding and cardiac problems. Of course, if they are still using aspartame the drugs can interact because aspartame is a drug and not an additive as the FDA would have you believe. By law additives are suppose to be inert, and aspartame is about as inert or non-reactive as a forest fire! Incidently, aspartame is a very addictive drug and going along with what you said about craving it, on the last page of the protest of the National Soft Drink Association on www.dorway.com you will see a note about that. It says that aspartame actually makes you crave carbohydrates. It's not a diet product. Most people gain weight on aspartame. We have two support groups you can click on to from www.dorway.com and a detoxification page. Newton Labs has made an antidote and there is a 1 800 number. Also, about memory loss, aspartame is legend at causing it. In fact, note that memory loss is #11 on the FDA list of 92 documented symptoms triggered by aspartame. H. J. Roberts, M.D., has already declared Aspartame Disease a world plague
RE: CSOT-Taxes
here's the better link: http://www.theawaregroup.com/lawthatneverwas.htm -Original Message- From: Frances Mehner [mailto:scha...@flash.net] Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2000 2:34 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSOT-Taxes can't access that address. Do you have one that works? Tried it with www, also russ e rosser wrote: Anyone have ideas on how to get a petition or something going that would be taken seriously? DAJ The FACT that the IRS Act is illegal is winning in court: thelawthatneverwas.org Full documentation on the the FDA'a *illegality* might prove to be an effective information bomb. (From there, we could move on the BATF, etc.) --Russ -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSfish tanks
It was also me. I noted that for my koi pond, the use of CS was wonderful on the fish themselves in a separate container, but that ammonia levels spike very quickly, even in the hospital bucket because of the lack of bacteria. NEVER use CS for algae control if you're trying to achieve a biological balance in the water of your pond or tank. (It's great for fountains with no living things). Algae grows because the conditions are right for it: food (nitrates, ie: fertilizer) and light. The best algae control for a healthy tank or pond is mechanical. Clean the visible amounts from the glass with a scrubber allow the filter to remove what it can. Partial water changes will help to keep the nutrient levels diluted. Get an algae eater or moon snails. Large fish such as koi will be overcome very quickly by ammonia poisoning, so I'd imagine that it wouldn't take long at all for the smaller tank varieties to succumb as well. If you value your fish at all, always treat them with CS in a separate container monitor your ammonia levels with test kits to make sure you didn't get too much in the tank with the fish transfer. Trust me, I found this out the very hard, very expensive way. Replacing well-grown koi took me over a year cost me $500 to get things back to the way the way they were. Heather -Original Message- From: Marshall Dudley [mailto:mdud...@execonn.com] Sent: Monday, October 30, 2000 7:51 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSfish tanks annho...@aol.com wrote: Hi all, There was a post on this list about 3 - 4 wks ago from someone who gave 25 personal and family experiences with CS. At the bottom was a list of 6 things to avoid. One was Putting too much in an aquarium. Obviously he found out the hard way. Maybe this person will come forward and explain. That was me. The things to avoid were from experiences of people here, as well as theoretical observations. For instance, I am unaware of any people feeding CS to cows and having a problem, but since CS kills bacteria and yeasts, and cows need these in their cud to break down the cellulose, there is very likely a problem. I DO know that feeding CS to honeybees will kill them, starving them even though they are bloated with honey, as I have done that test. Same with the fish. It is well known that the biological filter is important to the health of a fish tank. CS kills bacteria, and if sufficiently strong is very likely to do the biological filter in. I am not aware of any who has been willing to risk killing their fish to test it though. I believe that there is a theraputic dose that will not kill the filter, but as far as I know this has not been confirmed yet. Marshall -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CScats with sinus problems
All pets (2 dogs, 2 cats) use a waterer at our house. It looks like a bottled water dispenser holds 3 gallons, so at each filling, I put 1 cup of approximately 15 ppm CS in with the full 3 gallons. Seems to keep the usual slime away, too. For the deeper abcesses, I use a plastic 'small bird feeding syringe' to inject CS directly into the wound. Cats have very loose skin, so it's easy to get the syringe tip underneath the edges. My cats are very still when I do this, but I'd suggest toweling cats when you do this as I've heard it can burn a little. It definitely gets the BEST results, though. My female cat had a wound that went slightly gangrenous (she wouldn't clean it either, I found out: too disgusting for her) before it was finally found had opened up to 1/2 inch hole in the skin. After a thorough cleaning with peroxide, we did the CS underskin-injection method, gave 3 T by mouth let her go with the wound uncovered. She immediately started cleaning it we repeated the procedure the next day. The third day we just gave her 3 T by mouth she took care of the wound from there. It healed in less than a week. CS that you make yourself with distilled water pure silver is just fine for the eyes. I make my own CS using a Silvergen generator to be sure it's as good as I can get it. If you mix 1/2 1/2 CS with saline (pure contact lens saline is fine), the eyes take it a little better, no stinging. Heather -Original Message- From: kat-att...@webtv.net [mailto:kat-att...@webtv.net] Sent: Friday, September 29, 2000 5:52 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Cc: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CScats with sinus problems Thanks for all the suggestions. Heather, do you use straight silver in their water or dilute it? I have also been putting drops in her nose. It says on the bottle not to use in the eyes but I've heard it's okay. Any suggestions on this. Linda -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CScats with sinus problems
I have found that my cats have been the BEST test subjects for CS...they are indoor/outdoor have a tendency to abcesses (infected fighting wounds) on a fairly frequent basis. They used to have to go to the vet for ABX, fluids overnight stay. Now when I see them looking grumpy hiding to sleep, I dose them with CS look for the wound. After cleaning with peroxide (shows where the baddies are) I soak the wound with CS for a couple of days, twice/day. Haven't had a single vet bill for abcesses in over a year, but had about 9 cases. Love it! :o) It's also in their water all the time. Heather -Original Message- From: Nina Silver, Ph.D. [mailto:n...@bestweb.net] Sent: Friday, September 29, 2000 1:31 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CScats with sinus problems - Original Message - From: Linda kat-att...@webtv.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, September 29, 2000 3:54 PM Subject: CSIntroduction Hello List; My name is Linda and I am a breeder of siamese and oriental cats. I was referred to this list by a mutual breeder friend. I have a three y/o siamese who has chronic sinus problems and after much money, many test from my veternarian, I have no answers. Nothing bacterical or viral. I recently purchased Source Naturals Ultra Colloidal Silver (10 PPM) and have had all my cats on one dropper each evening for a period of 3 days now. The siamese with the chronic sinus problem is showing some improvement. Am I gving the correct dosage or is the brand or 10 PPM correct? Any information is great appreciated. Thanks, Linda You may find that what you are feeding your cats will contribute greatly to their health. I feed my dogs mostly raw foods, including veggies that I chop up in the food processor. They never get sick as a result. Get Weston Price's book NUTRITION AND PHYSICAL REGENERATION and see how canned or dried foods for animals contributes to ill health. Nina -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CShemmorroids
As a periodically chronic sufferer, I've discovered a unique way to get CS where it belongs. I buy 'Tucks' in the 100 pad container pour in my cs when the container is new. Tucks is nothing more than 50% witch hazel in distilled water, so adding CS works just fine. It's an astringent an antiseptic wash in one! Very soothing. Good luck! I wish there was no such thing as 'roids, as I'm sure you do too! Heather -Original Message- From: Saphakasha [mailto:saphaka...@earthlink.net] Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2000 4:02 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSUnidentified subject! Will colloidal silver help hemmorroids? And if it can, how do I apply it? Thanks! -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CS Turned Charcoal
The only time my CS ever turned that color was when I put it in a container that I'd washed out with soap. Bad idea! Now I just rinse carefully with distilled water (triple rinse) and I never have that problem. Heather -Original Message- From: marmar1...@aol.com [mailto:marmar1...@aol.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2000 5:41 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CS Turned Charcoal I am fairly new to making silver and I have a question. About 2 months ago or so I made a batch of silver to use topically and put it in a plastic spray bottle. I had another bottle which I had been using to spray on my son's body at the first hint of poison ivy. It helped tremendously after going through several bouts of poison ivy all over his body early summer. Anyway, I was cleaning my pantry the other day and when I got to my spray bottle of silver, the stuff was dark charcoal colored! At the time I made it, it was nicely golden. Is this natural?? Kinda scared me to think this murky colored stuff might be lurking in my body!? Thanks to anyone who might have an answer. Marlene ))) -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSOT re: oral chelation of F
I can't help but think that naturally plant-assimilated fluoride wouldn't be the same as copper aluminum industry waste by-products. It's THAT flouride that your helpful community so carefully purchases (buying toxic waste!) and mass-medicates the general populus. Any thoughts on differences between plant fluoride the other? Heather -Original Message- From: James Osbourne, Holmes [mailto:a...@trail.com] Sent: Monday, September 18, 2000 7:18 PM To: 'silver-list@eskimo.com' Subject: CSOT re: oral chelation of F Hi Marshall and everyone, I just recently ran across a paper saying that tea plants have the highest concentration of fluorides of any plant; especially green tea. That figures; green tea is said to be good for preventing decay. The belief must have originated from the erroneous belief that fluorides enhance dental health. The figures indicate that the concentration in regular and green tea is many times higher than the MCL set by the FDA, and is thousands of times higher that the allowed concentration of F in drinking water allowed in most European countries. I have assiduously avoided drinking tap water for several years, to escape the fluorides. I also drink about 4 cups of Earl Grey a day, or did until I read the article. Have you heard anything about oral chelation for fluoride? Thanks in advance. a...@trail.com FTNWO -Original Message- From: Marshall Dudley [SMTP:mdud...@execonn.com] Sent: Monday, September 18, 2000 12:11 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject:Re: CS stimulates bacteria??? Katie Jay wrote: Dear Carlos, Thanks so much for your note!! It is encouraging to hear that you found relief using the Beck protocol. During my research, I had determined that his protocol sounded the most likely to succeed. The problem is that I have been paralyzed by assertions from others about things like CS being harmful to people who have mercury toxicity (I do), and zapping (Hulda Clark style) stimulating cancer cells (would Beck's device do that?). If this is a concern then get rid of the mercury. It is pretty easy now with some of the good oral chelations available. See the archives for the link to the one I used. Marshall -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSOT Air filtration for poor air quality indoors
There is a filter out there that incorporates the HEPA effectiveness with the viral mold-killing properties of a UV sterilization unit. I have no idea about its effectiveness, but I thought the idea was very intriguing. I think I saw it in a brochure for Living Air Systems. It was listed as their industrial unit, capable of being attatched to the air circulation system of a whole building. I wish I had more info...you know those trade-show brochures...you think you'll keep them to refer back to never do. Good luck! Heather -Original Message- From: Tony Moody [mailto:a...@new.co.za] Sent: Friday, September 15, 2000 1:29 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSOT Air filtration for poor air quality indoors Dear Janet, It is some time since I was involved, so am quite happy to be shouted down by the latest knowledge. I'm not familiar with ionic or EMF technology. hepa filters do an excellent job but will not remove viruses and mould spores. The installation if replacement filter elements has to be done carefully else they can be torn. They are expensive. What kind of toxins? If it is solvents then activated carbon filters may be OK. If its infectious contamination then ozone is good but make sure it is neutralised to a safe concentration for the occupants after it has . Ultraviolet is also good if the dust has been removed. Put in negative ion generators anyway to polish the air in the room. You could get advice from a reputable air conditioning consultant. Regards, Tony Janet Lubart wrote: Dear Everyone, Does anyone know of the best air cleaners(quiet) to capture toxic chemicals in buildings. Through exploration, we found that the air quality of a classroom may not be up to par and we would like to purchase some type of silent filtration units. Would charcoal , ionic or EMF technology be adaquate for small, developing immune systems? What do commercial businesses do for their workers for bad indoor air quality when toxins are involved? Do hepa filters in the heat and air conditioning units work well? Thank you, Janet -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSRe: black walnut hull tincture: iodine
It's been mentioned before that rubbing liquid iodine on one's stomach for a few days, once a day (until it stops being absorbed easily) will benefit the thyroid. I can't remember who contributed that bit of info, though. Actually, I'd like to have more info on that myself... Heather -Original Message- From: mama2b...@aol.com [mailto:mama2b...@aol.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2000 6:22 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSRe: black walnut hull tincture: iodine I take black walnut hull tincture daily for parasite control. It is organic iodine. Is there any danger that this would cause the thyroids to stop producing iodine, resulting in goiter? I am already low on thyroid. Would the extra iodine help that condition? mamabear -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSArgyria on the counter top
I have a white laminate countertop that is constantly being dripped on during CS generation use. I have finally learned to use an old towel to protect it, but the way I got the silver oxidation out of the minute pores of the laminate was to make a paste of baking soda water work it in good with my fingers. Feels a little like Comet cleanser for a bit, but is not abrasive. I don't know how effective it would be for wood butcherblock, but it's worth a shot. Works every time on mine. Heather Subject: CSArgyria on the counter top Hi, Listers, I spilled a little CS on my butcher block countertop and now I have a blue-gray spot. Bleach won't remove it. Any suggestions? Thanks. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSArgyria on the counter top
CS doesn't stain right away. It oxidizes, which changes it's color in the spilled-on spot from clear to grey-brown, the color of tarnish. My white countertop has been the ultimate viewing area for these changes I have found that no matter how quickly I wipe up a spill, it will ALWAYS stain, usually showing up 2 days later. Heather -Original Message- From: Carol Webb [mailto:ca...@peace.worldonline.co.uk] Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2000 1:29 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSArgyria on the counter top Does anyone know if CS is supposed to stain in this way? I just dropped some of my CS onto a piece of untreated wood, left it for a minute or two, and wiped it off. There was no stain. I'm having a crisis of confidence in the quality of my CS. Kind Regards Carol -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSFW:
Okay, you CS Experts: tear this apart put it back together for me so what's real is obvious what's not can be tossed. I was under the impression that silver was NOT a heavy metal... Thanks, Heather -Original Message- From: Dave King [mailto:dave.k...@neuvant.com] Sent: Monday, August 28, 2000 7:59 AM To: Heather King (LCA) Subject: We need to get Liz on a special research project. Stacy went to the Dr. Friday and he asked about colloidal silver for his hepatitis C and he was told no heavy metals! He even told him he needed to cut down any iron that might be in other things he was taking. It's funny...he did tell him it was okay to go back to taking the Milk Thistle that was prescribed by a naturopath. I need some more supportive evidence so that he can make a decision. I told him that I wasn't going to tell him to go against what his Dr. told him, but it sounded contrary to the things you found before. Oh yeah...he said that tumors love heavy metals. He said it would actually help the growth of tumors should they occur. At this point he doesn't have any, but I guess with the deterioration of the liver the chance for cancer and tumors increases. Thanks for the help.
RE: CSOT - detoxifying
Someone earlier mentioned taking a hot bath with epsom salts... I'd get the water hot enough to sweat some, that's for sure! Good luck Katie! -Original Message- From: Henry Reed [mailto:pj20...@home.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2000 7:35 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSOT - detoxifying Katie, I think you were abused too. But be sure to drink a lot of water . That should help. Maybe a warm, long shower, but I'm not sure about that. Drink lots of water for sure though. Best wishes, pj Katie Jay wrote: Sorry this is off topic, but I'm kindof desperate! I got an ultraviolet blood irradiation treatment today (kills germs and oxyzenates the blood) that is supposed to cause a lot of die off. What can I do to minimize this? I was told to take a sauna, but can't find one! I can't believe they didn't tell me this until I was getting ready to walk out the door at 5pm!! They said I'll really suffer if I don't do it! Grr. I feel so abused!! I have grape seed extract and aloe vera gel at home and am taking these. On another topic, does anyone have ideas for an easy kidney cleanse? I don't think I have it in me to buy the herbs in bulk and steep them, etc., and Dr. Hulda Clark suggests. Is there anything simpler I could do? Also, how critical is it that I do a kidney cleanse before a liver cleanse? Thanks! Katie -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSLaetrile...and shingles
You can normally get pure preserved saline saline rinses at the contact lens counter in any pharmacy. Any of those type products are formulated to be buffered enough for use in the eyes/with contacts. Just be sure to read the label make sure it's not a lens *cleaner*. -Original Message- From: Henry Reed [mailto:pj20...@home.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2000 2:48 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSLaetrile...and shingles Where do you get the saline solution? I've tried 2 pharmacies and they won't sell it to me. Broncho saline yes, normal saline no. ' cking...@nycap.rr.com wrote: Good tip, saline instead of distilled water for eyedrops. My homemade drops burn a bit. Chuck Oh, no, not another learning experience! On Wed, 26 Jul 2000 10:52:38 -0500, Liz Pavek liz...@frontiernet.net wrote: Heather, my daughter, who is also on this list, suggested CS. My response was that I knew it would work, but it burned like fire in the eyes. She responded with it's the distilled water. Dilute it in pure saline, and it should be ok. Once I started using the CS, the pain went away quickly, and the inflammation began to subside right away. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSUses
Pets: Seeing as how we live in a near zoo at my house, CS comes in very handy for the occasional ickies sickies: I have experienced great results with CS in cats. This has been a bad year for fights therefore, abcesses on our 2 cats I have found that injecting CS directly into the already-open wound with a plastic-tipped syringe takes care of the problem in two days or less, depending on the size of the wound. I also give CS by mouth for 4 days and I'm amazed every time how complete quick the healing is. I used to pay $90 per visit to the vet for antibiotics an overnight stay, lancing drainage and I haven't had to for the last 2 years. Cats heal differently than humans dogs. If there is any infection under the skin at a wound site, it will take way too long to heal with conventional meds must be treated at the wound site as well as internally. CS is perfect for this. CS also cured a chronic ear fungus in my dog. I have used CS successfully as a dip for my comet goldfish have seen Ich disappear in less than 2 days on a fish that was covered with the speckles. Also took care of one case of dropsy (pinecone syndrome) a stress/fungal condition on a large koi. (I ALWAYS treat my fish OUT of the water in a dip bucket; never in the pond.) As for us humans in the house, I credit CS with keeping us flu-free for the last 2 years, as well as enabling a longer refrigerator shelf-life on foods that we would have thrown out because of questionable age. We're saving money AND staying well. Also, a friend of mine used CS to cool a bad cooking oil burn found to her joy amazement that the large burn mark was nearly invisible the next day gone on the second with no scarring, blistering or tenderness. Sorry for the book...CS has done wonders for all the little insidious, irritating ills of life at our house since we started making it regularly 2 years ago. We'll keep making it using it and completely benefiting from it. Heather King -Original Message- From: Marsha Hallett [mailto:liah...@pacbell.net] Sent: Saturday, July 22, 2000 9:07 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSUses Hi, I know there are long lists of potential applications for CS but I wondered if those of you who have been successful would consider creating a thread, if such hasn't been done, of your uses and results. What have you used CS for and what was the outcome? -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSUses..heather?
Actually, I don't know for certain...perhaps Trem can give you a better idea, as I am using the Silvergen CS generator. I recently came across some good distilled water that takes a little over an hour for the light on the generator to come on (indicating conductivity) and I get crystal clear, VERY pale gold CS with what I consider a medium T.E. My best estimate is somewhere between 10 15 ppm after 5 hours of generating. Since I follow Trem's instructions as close as possible, I'm assuming it's a good, average brew. Trem, would you be so kind as to comment?? Heather -Original Message- From: ing...@aol.com [mailto:ing...@aol.com] Sent: Monday, July 24, 2000 12:29 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSUses..heather? heather..l am wondering what strength cs you use? -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
