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[Marlene Hanson]

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[Marlene Hanson]

Good morning Silver

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CSFrom: Marlene Hanson

[Marlene Hanson]

Sup silver

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CSFrom: Marlene Hanson

[Marlene Hanson]

Hi silver



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RE: CSWhat are adaptogens? | ADAPTOGENS

[Marlene Hanson]

To ruched to do much today will call you later love you Marlene

 

From: Theresa [mailto:tmswift777...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, October 31, 2014 7:06 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSWhat are adaptogens? | ADAPTOGENS

 

Adaptogens are chemicals (herbals) that allow your body to adapt to stressed of 
all kinds; physical ailments, mental stress etc. some well known ones; 
Echinacea, Eleuthero, Ashwaganda, Astragalus. I take a capsule of a different 
one every night because it's hard to get these in our modern diet. I think 
Eleuthero makes me alert so I take it in the morning. 

T

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Re: CSMercury Fillings

[Marlene Hanson]

Hi Pat, I had my amalgams removed by Huggins protocol taking his recommended 
vit and mins for years after I then ate celantro and had IV chelation. This and 
many other treatments and life changes were helpful in removing my MS symptoms. 
I am still noticing improvements in the damage I suffered from the MS related 
damages. So it was expensive it has been worth it. Marlene
  - Original Message - 
  From: Patmailto:pattycake29...@yahoo.com 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.commailto:silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Friday, April 26, 2013 5:27 AM
  Subject: CSMercury Fillings


  My dentist said one patient who had fillings removed had her lichen planus go 
away.  I have two more small fillings, but I worry about the anesthetic 
injections (possible long term side effects) and also having to drill into 
teeth (which could take even more away and weaken them further?)  Having the 
large one removed over a year ago (and now even the entire tooth) has done 
nothing to improve my aches and pains.  

  Pat

Re: CSFw: Liposomal Vitamin C,Lecithin

[Marlene Hanson]

Hi Harold, Have you changed your recipe? I recently started making your recipe 
with variations as outlined below and wanted to check it. 

 Calcium ascorbate  from Bronson 1/4 tsp equals 1000 mg with 115 mg calcium 
ascorbate.
 I am using 1 Tbsp Phosphatidyl Choline and 2 Tbsp of soy Lecithin.

My most recent dose I added 6 VRP optimag each containing Magnesium 120 mg, 
succinic Acid (Magnesium Succinate)140 mg, taurine (Magnesium taurinate)170 mg, 
Malic Acid (magnesium malate)105 mg, aspartic Acid (Magnesium Aspartate) 60 mg. 
 I follow your mixing directions and have been taking 1 oz (jigger) 3 times a 
day. I think this may be too much can you say what mg dosage you recommend? Do 
you have any recommendations as to the procedure I am doing? I would also like 
to add Glutamine.
Thank you Marlene Hanson  

- Original Message - 
  From: Harold MacDonaldmailto:har...@telus.net 
  To: Silver listmailto:silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Friday, October 15, 2010 4:17 PM
  Subject: CSFw: Liposomal Vitamin C,Lecithin



  This is my recipe for it now.


  Subject: CS: Liposomal Vitamin C,Lecithin


  After trying a few different ways to make Lipo-C,I settled on putting 3 
tblspns of Soy Lecithin in one cup of DW and let it sit  at room temp.until 
Lecithin was fully in solution.

  Then I put two[2] tspns of Ascorbic acid in 1/2 cup of DW plus one tspn of 
bicarb [1],let it fizz right down.If I see any sedimentation on the bottom,

  then I tweak it by adding a pinch of Vit.C.,if it fizzes then I add a bit 
more until no reaction.If the first pinch of C does nothing,then

   I add a pinch of bicarb,if it fizzes then I repeat the process until no 
reaction.

  I have found this to give me as close to 100% as you can hope for.In my last 
four brews I had two with very slight traces of Leci. floating on top.These 
seemed to be from larger sized granules.
  When I measure the Lecithin I do notice that the size of the granules do 
vary.If I had a precise scale I would try doing it by weight, just to see.

  Harold
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Re: CSRe: Marlene, and meat

[Marlene Hanson]

Hi Dee you make a great point. MLE
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  From: Dorothy Fitzpatrickmailto:d...@deetroy.org 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.commailto:silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2010 3:18 AM
  Subject: Re: CSRe: Marlene, and meat


  This is sooo logical Malcom and makes such sound sense.  I would like to add 
that a lot of studies are carried out about every single thing you can think of 
and also can be biased to reflect a point of view.  I'm not saying that this 
one is, but often not all variables are thought of. 

  The famous cholesterol study springs to mind whereby they carried out a study 
to see if cholesterol was involved in heart attacks.  Of course, they came up 
with the fact that there was high levels of cholesterol found where there had 
been heart disease.  This started off the multi billion pound 'you must lower 
cholesterol' industry band wagon - including the dreadful statin revolution!  
The thing that those carrying out the studies didn't take into account at all, 
was all the other factors involved which caused the body to PRODUCE cholesterol 
in the first place!  No-one mentioned that the poor body was trying to HEAL 
itself by producing cholesterol!  And has lowering cholesterol produced less 
heart disease?  NO it hasn't, in fact I believe cancer rates have rocketed with 
the introduction of so-called 'healthy' soy and hydrogenated vegetable fat.  I 
have *never* eaten any of this stuff and am an omnivore but don't eat a lot of 
meat.  I do eat eggs and cheese in abundance though, and (touch wood) at 67 
years of age I am a healthy person--no arthritis and no allergies or 
sensitivities at all and quite agile although overweight.  dee


  On 27 Dec 2010, at 21:00, Malcolm wrote:

   Hi Marlene,
   I hope your holidays were a joy to you as well, and I don't mean to be
   contentious, but I must disagree not only with your premis but also with
   your choice of sources.
   
   There's no doubt that some people, even populations, are allergic to
   milk, and/or wheat, and/or animal protein, and/or various veggies, and
   franken-foods like GMO peanuts, etc.
   
   Also I can hardly doubt your own experiences - why should I?  
   
   But by a similar token there are others, such as myself who have
   directly opposite experience to yours regarding food and allergies.
   I'll give one or two examples; I am not allergic to milk nor to milk
   products, nor to dairy, in fact we kept a cow during my childhood and
   my only allergy was to having to go get her from wherever she had
   wandered during the day, to come home for milking in the evening.  My
   brother and I had our cups on a ledge in the barn and my dad would fill
   them with fresh foamy milk right from the cow; we were enormously proud
   of our new foam moustaches!  I have continued to drink milk copiously
   throughout my life and I'm now 76.  No prob. with milk.
   
   During the 60's there was a great movement toward vegetarianism, soy,
   brown rice, tofu; turns out I am allergic to soy and soy products, and I
   don't mean just a little!  I don't mind their taste at all, but as
   idealism swept over our dietary habits in my - err, youth - and us
   rebellious idealists expressed our desire for a better world through our
   actions, I had enough soy dumped on my plate so that even through the
   blur of right thinking it became real clear that soy was not good for
   me.  It was Bad for me.
   
   I have been approximately omnivorous throughout my life, with a strong
   bias toward carnivory; partly you might argue I'd been brainwashed by my
   society, after all Beef; it's what's for dinner.  But my dietary
   preference was shaped in the relative absence of TV - it was shaped by
   what tasted good and what was available during the year, living in
   California; i.e., just about everything.
   
   I'd like to introduce another idea into this discussion, first time I
   ran into it was reading a book - Eat Right For Your Type - by Dr. Peter
   Adamso.  The idea is that what your body does well with in the way of
   food, depends - or is shown by - your blood type.  For instance; if you
   were from northern (cold) hunter-gatherer stock you'd be well adapted to
   meat and milk since live animals were the primary storage device; if
   from a sub-tropical temperate plains environment such as vast areas of
   China, you'd be partial to cultivated and field crops, and so on.  He
   presents lots of good evidence to back up the history of blood types and
   diet and also the presence and absence of allergies to this-n-that, all
   based on blood types.
   
   So, if your examples are drawn from studies in China what could be more
   obvious than that they would show allergic reaction to heavy meat
   consumption?  The vast majority of that population has historically
   subsisted quite well on vegetation; That's what's for dinner there -
   or was, until globalization.  Globalization began 

Re: CS[List Owner] Thanks...

[Marlene Hanson]

Information as a gift for Christmas to you all.  Milk and all milk products 
(cheese) and eggs are a major issue in triggering the immune system. Wheat or 
gluten is also a major trigger. I found that Beef, Pork, Turkey and Chicken all 
are triggers for me. I found that some small amount of fish I can tolerate. The 
studies starting back in the late 1800 are saying that all animal protein is 
harmful in the amounts we eat here in the US. I am not completely free of 
animal protein at this time because I am keeping my system from having a 
herximer response by gradual changes. Some of the problems caused by the amount 
of protein we consume are MS, heart trouble, arthritis, alcymers,  Cancer, 
Diabetes. Although the information has been available and proven the Food 
industry, Government, MDA, FDA, and Drug companies have fought having it 
utilized. The information has been published and studied at many research 
Universities such as Cambridge and Oxford and YALE. I heard part of a speech by 
then nominee Barrack Obama saying it would ruin the economy if he changed some 
health practices. Imagine if everyone ate a meal like the rest of third world 
countries based on plants instead of animals. Animal  protein in the amounts we 
eat is the cause of most if not all diseases. This information would also turn 
the stock market upside down and ruin countless farmers. So with all things the 
changes for most US and European people will come slowly if at all.
Hope  and pray you had a great Christmas and your family has better health 
soon. 
MLE   
  - Original Message - 
  From: Carol Annmailto:saffiresk...@yahoo.com 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.commailto:silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 8:04 AM
  Subject: Re: CS[List Owner] Thanks...


Mike - how profound a sentiment. You wrote  You wish  The gift of 
wellness and healing to all.   Now.  If only that were something that could 
actually be given and received in lieu of XBoxes, slippers, ties and Flat panel 
TV,s

My goodness, to think of how such thoughts / real possibilities would 
send shivers to the core of corporate retail stores. :)

Heres wishing everyone..health, happiness, peace and prosperity for the 
NEW YEAR!  Cheers. 



Regards, Carol Ann ~ The only thing that is different is how you think..
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  Subject: CS[List Owner] Thanks...
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Date: Friday, December 24, 2010, 10:09 AM


  The tree is trimmed, the last present arrived with the smiling UPS 
guy, 
  and strains of Mannheim Steamroller are wafting through the house 
with 
  the smell of baking... grin

  Thank you for being in my life this past year, and past decade in the 
  case of some of you! LOL

  Above all, I wish the gift of healing and wellness to all.

  Peace.

  Mike D.

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Re: CS[List Owner] Thanks...

[Marlene Hanson]

The studies have been documented and presented to the major organizations who 
control information release to the media. They show that our bodies immune 
system makes antibodies to animal protein.  The antibodies cause inflammation 
and disease processes. Most of these agencies and organizations are receiving 
support from the agriculture business, and they have connections with all the 
government agencies. Refined foods are not healthy and the toxic, poisoned 
foods are not healthy but according to all the studies the real offenders to 
our immune system and health are animal proteins. Read the book (The China 
Study) The studies are documented and very concise. Just look who has the most 
disease, the highest health care and how much animal we consume in relation to 
Rural Asia and other third world countries. 
 MLE
  - Original Message - 
  From: Dorothy Fitzpatrickmailto:d...@deetroy.org 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.commailto:silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 8:23 AM
  Subject: Re: CS[List Owner] Thanks...


  I thought we needed to eat animal protein because that is what we are made 
of.  In moderate amounts of course.  I think that a much more likely culprit 
for the cause of all disease is sugar.  dee


  On 27 Dec 2010, at 16:14, Marlene Hanson wrote:

   Information as a gift for Christmas to you all.  Milk and all milk products 
(cheese) and eggs are a major issue in triggering the immune system. Wheat or 
gluten is also a major trigger. I found that Beef, Pork, Turkey and Chicken all 
are triggers for me. I found that some small amount of fish I can tolerate. The 
studies starting back in the late 1800 are saying that all animal protein is 
harmful in the amounts we eat here in the US. I am not completely free of 
animal protein at this time because I am keeping my system from having a 
herximer response by gradual changes. Some of the problems caused by the amount 
of protein we consume are MS, heart trouble, arthritis, alcymers,  Cancer, 
Diabetes. Although the information has been available and proven the Food 
industry, Government, MDA, FDA, and Drug companies have fought having it 
utilized. The information has been published and studied at many research 
Universities such as Cambridge and Oxford and YALE. I heard part of a speech by 
then nominee Barrack Obama saying it would ruin the economy if he changed some 
health practices. Imagine if everyone ate a meal like the rest of third world 
countries based on plants instead of animals. Animal  protein in the amounts we 
eat is the cause of most if not all diseases. This information would also turn 
the stock market upside down and ruin countless farmers. So with all things the 
changes for most US and European people will come slowly if at all.
   Hope  and pray you had a great Christmas and your family has better health 
soon. 
   MLE   
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Re: CS[List Owner] Thanks...

[Marlene Hanson]

Hi,Dee 
There is a lot of truth in what you say. I believe you have studied as I have 
to get the information you have just shared. The information in this book did 
take that information into account as well and was able to convince me that 
although there is relevance in all the information we both have that it is the 
immune system which is being impacted by animal protein that is causing most 
disease.  These researchers documented population studies and then brought this 
to the US University Labs and used long term animal studies to prove the 
validity of their observations and the population studies. Most libraries have 
the book (The China Study) although the studies were not just performed in 
China. I think you may find it interesting. MLE 

Re: CSRe: Marlene, and meat

[Marlene Hanson]

Thank you Malcolm,
 I agree with you on many points. I too was a farm girl and have eaten well and 
was just sharing what is currently controversial and helping me. I am sensitive 
to animal protein and am doing better with the vegetable and fruit based diet. 
I am typed as o Positive so according to that I should do well with animal 
protein.  This book is good for me. It may help others as well. 
Have a joyful Holiday Season. MLE 

Re: CS was turpentine now loblolly pine

[Marlene Hanson]

Hi Renee, I am a longtime member of the  CS list. I seldom write but always 
read. I would like the addy for the Loblolly extract. Thank you so much for all 
the great instructions. MH
  - Original Message - 
  From: Reneemailto:gaiac...@gmail.com 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.commailto:silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2010 8:33 AM
  Subject: Re: CS was turpentine now loblolly pine


I have been asked to ask you all NOT to say anything to others about 
the link to the artist's turp I sent.  Since it is the best turp to get for 
internal use--and we all know how the FDA feels about anything healthy--if we 
all go about talking up this turp on lists and flooding this company with 
orders all at once, they are likely to stop carrying it for fear of FDA 
crackdown.

So instead of talking about it as being turpentine (which is 
technically considered a poison now so it would be easy for the FDA to make 
huge waves) that is taken internally, when we mention this let's call it 
Loblolly because that's the type of pine tree it comes from. 

If you want to tell someone not on this list about it, please have them 
email you privately for the link.  Not a good idea to spread it far and wide as 
'the place to get good turp'  sigh  it's sad we have to be so careful, but 
since this has been discovered as the best turp out there, we need to protect 
our source.

Thanks,
Renee




   
  
   

Re: CSA whistleblower claims ,the drug industry wants to keep us sick?????

[Marlene Hanson]

From what I have read in books and on the internet about the time when the 
Rockefellers started limiting the universities which could teach medicine. 
They also established criteria for medical students to be chosen by. They 
should not question or make decisions. They were tested and only those who 
would follow the path and rules laid out for them would be admitted to medical 
school. 

The thinkers and decision makers were relegated to research and they were 
controlled by direct grants of money for studies which would help the Drug 
manufacturers. Rockefeller gave large grants for the Universities which would 
develop medicines based on the waste from his oil refineries. 

Much of this information came from a book I can't even find and have forgotten 
the full name, I think the title is Healthology your key to health.  It made 
since to me. Rockefeller the oil magnet was the son of  the Rockefeller who 
sold petroleum oil as a cure all or Nostrum. It was sold by hawkers on the 
streets and by mail. it does make sense to me. Marlene  
  - Original Message - '
  From: Dorothy Fitzpatrickmailto:d...@deetroy.org 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.commailto:silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Friday, April 09, 2010 6:50 AM
  Subject: Re: CSA whistleblower claims ,the drug industry wants to keep us 
sick?


  Actually, I think I would agree Annie (being less charitable as well lol) 
dee

  On 8 Apr 2010, at 20:06, Annie B Smythe wrote:

   I'm a little less charitable. I believe for most it's just plain laziness. 
They don't want to put in the effort it takes to LEARN what they need to know, 
to take intelligent informed action, unless their comfortable little world, 
provided to keep them content, is upset (and usually by then it's too late). 
They actually prefer to let others make decisions for them and tell them what 
to do instead of using the minds they have to winnow out the lies and BS. 
That's why we call them sheople. A herd blindly following ill chosen shepherds. 
And this occurs in every area; economic, health, education, religion, and etc.
   
   Annie
   
   Control your destiny or somebody else will.~Jack Welsh
   
   
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Re: CSA whistleblower claims , ALSO

[Marlene Hanson]

Also of note I understand that the Rockefellers helped to establish the ADA and 
AMA and elevated it to the point where the government actually bases many laws 
on their suggestions. They also lobby to keep the powers which they have as a 
labor organization representing and monitoring themselves by law. Much of their 
powers were given due to the fact that the Rockefellers paid so much money to 
get these privileges.  M  
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  From: Marlene Hansonmailto:mlehan...@msn.com 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.commailto:silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2010 7:02 PM
  Subject: Re: CSA whistleblower claims ,the drug industry wants to keep us 
sick?


  From what I have read in books and on the internet about the time when the 
Rockefellers started limiting the universities which could teach medicine. They 
also established criteria for medical students to be chosen by. They should not 
question or make decisions. They were tested and only those who would follow 
the path and rules laid out for them would be admitted to medical school. 

  The thinkers and decision makers were relegated to research and they were 
controlled by direct grants of money for studies which would help the Drug 
manufacturers. Rockefeller gave large grants for the Universities which would 
develop medicines based on the waste from his oil refineries. 

  Much of this information came from a book I can't even find and have 
forgotten the full name, I think the title is Healthology your key to health.  
It made since to me. Rockefeller the oil magnet was the son of  the Rockefeller 
who sold petroleum oil as a cure all or Nostrum. It was sold by hawkers on the 
streets and by mail. it does make sense to me. Marlene  
- Original Message - '
From: Dorothy Fitzpatrickmailto:d...@deetroy.org 
To: silver-list@eskimo.commailto:silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Friday, April 09, 2010 6:50 AM
Subject: Re: CSA whistleblower claims ,the drug industry wants to keep us 
sick?


Actually, I think I would agree Annie (being less charitable as well lol) 
dee

On 8 Apr 2010, at 20:06, Annie B Smythe wrote:

 I'm a little less charitable. I believe for most it's just plain 
laziness. They don't want to put in the effort it takes to LEARN what they need 
to know, to take intelligent informed action, unless their comfortable little 
world, provided to keep them content, is upset (and usually by then it's too 
late). They actually prefer to let others make decisions for them and tell them 
what to do instead of using the minds they have to winnow out the lies and BS. 
That's why we call them sheople. A herd blindly following ill chosen shepherds. 
And this occurs in every area; economic, health, education, religion, and etc.
 
 Annie
 
 Control your destiny or somebody else will.~Jack Welsh
 
 
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Re: CSA whistleblower claims ,the drug industry wants to keep us sick?????

[Marlene Hanson]

Do you know why the address will not come up for me? What do I ask for on you 
tube? Thank you Marlene
  - Original Message - 
  From: Annie B Smythemailto:anniebsmy...@gmail.com 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.commailto:silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2010 6:07 AM
  Subject: Re: CSA whistleblower claims ,the drug industry wants to keep us 
sick


  Yeah Dee, it's just a confirmation for me too. You 
  can find the whole talk by this same guy on you 
  tube if you put his name in a search on youtube. 
  Heck, that is if you can get youtube across the pond:/

  Annie

  Control your destiny or somebody else will.~Jack Welsh


  Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote:
   This is such an eye opener Annie, but doesn't surprise me at all I have to 
say!  dee
   
   On 6 Apr 2010, at 20:00, Annie B Smythe wrote:
   
   Got this in an email this morning, thought y'all might find it interesting 
and informative.
  
   A whistleblower claims the drug industry wants to keep us sick.
   Video is in English
  
   
http://fun.mivzakon.co.il/video/General/3651/%D7%A8%D7%98%D7%90%D7%9C%D7%99%D7%9F,_%D7%A4%D7%95%D7%A8%D7%96%D7%90%D7%A7_%D7%94%D7%A9%D7%97%D7%99%D7%AA%D7%95%D7%AA_%D7%91%D7%97%D7%91%D7%A8%D7%AA_%D7%AA%D7%A8%D7%95%D7%A4%D7%95%D7%AA_%D7%91%D7%A9%D7%91%D7%93%D7%99%D7%94.htmlhttp://fun.mivzakon.co.il/video/General/3651/%D7%A8%D7%98%D7%90%D7%9C%D7%99%D7%9F,_%D7%A4%D7%95%D7%A8%D7%96%D7%90%D7%A7_%D7%94%D7%A9%D7%97%D7%99%D7%AA%D7%95%D7%AA_%D7%91%D7%97%D7%91%D7%A8%D7%AA_%D7%AA%D7%A8%D7%95%D7%A4%D7%95%D7%AA_%D7%91%D7%A9%D7%91%D7%93%D7%99%D7%94.html
  
   Annie
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CSQuestion for Annie_ GABA source

[Marlene Hanson]

Hi Annie, Will you tell us where you get your bulk supplements? Thank you MLE
  - Original Message - 
  From: Annie B Smythemailto:anniebsmy...@gmail.com 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.commailto:silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 11:14 AM
  Subject: Re: CS GABA source


  Yep ALA does some amazing things. It recycles antioxidants already in 
  the body. But I prefer the R form. Regular ALA has both R and S forms 
  and the S form kind of negates the good that the R fraction does in the 
  body. The R form is not as stable and a little more expensive but it's 
  worth it. I can really feel the difference. The difference is dramatic. 
  And I take my R ALA with 1 gram of Acetyl  L Carnitine and 1 gram of 
  vitamin C.  I can really tell when I haven't taken it for a day or two.

  Just off the top of my head;

  An Inositol/Choline combination is good for the neurons and nerves too.

  I use a liquid form of B complex that I swish in my mouth for absorption.

  Bacopa Monnieri, Coleus Forskohlii, Huperzine A, Rhodeola Rosea, and 
  Gotu Kola are several other brain protectors. As well as vinpocetine and 
  Ginkgo. Eleuthero is another one as well as the other Ginsengs, but 
  eleuthero is a bit more gentle in its action than the other Ginsengs. 
  Eleuthero used to be called Siberian Ginseng.. Bilberry is great for the 
  eyes but it's also great for circulation.

  I also take 6 grams of cinnamon every day to keep my cells sensitive to 
  insulin, and I usually take just 2 grams of turmeric, and Ginger daily, 
  unless I sprain a thumb while I'm sleeping, LOL, then I up the dosage. I 
  also take MSM and Glucosamine 2 grams of each daily.

  I switch off on the brain protecting supplements every other day so the 
  body doesn't have a chance to get used to the same thing every day.
   
  Taurine is another great supplement for the brain, and glucose uptake. I 
  buy it by the lb. It's also great for the eyes. Astaxanthin, and 
  Zeaxanthin are two more good antioxidants for the eyes, along with 
  Lutein, and a couple more that are on the tip of my tongue. They help 
  prevent Macular degeneration in older eyes. I can tell when I don't take 
  those for a few days too.

  Unfortunately the body does age no matter what we do, but we can 
  minimize the age related debilities, thank heavens.

  It's really much more economical to buy in bulk and make your own 
  capsules, tinctures, infusions and teas. I'd be spending much much more 
  if I bought everything already encapsulated  and bottled. Making your 
  own tinctures and other stuff isn't hard, or complicated, at all. If you 
  make your own colloidal silver you can make these other things quite easily.

  I just bought 4 lbs of freshly harvested Lomatium root, and some Usnea, 
  to make tinctures and oil infusions for the family for this coming flu 
  season. I've also bought some Licorice root and a few other 
  expectorants, and lung and bronchial tube clearer uppers.




  Annie



  Harold MacDonald wrote:
   
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   Other benefits of GABA
  
   Snipped;
   The Lipoic Acid, vitamin E treatment significantly increased the level of
   glutathione, GABA and serotonin levels in the whole brain as well as 
   in the
   regions of the olfactory lobe, cerebrum, hippocampus-hypothalamus,
   cerebellum and pons-medulla. This is quite a demonstration of the 
   actions of
   these compounds in protecting the brain from environmental toxic assault.
  
  
  
  
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Re: CSCS ? Is Colloidal Silver likely to cause pathogen mutation? . .

[Marlene Hanson]

Hi Carol, 
Your experience gives me hope.   I have used holistic doctors for over 30 
years.  I have spent the last 2 1/2 years on my own  trying to clean up and 
detox with Zeolite, MMS, and Spiro. I have put off having test to see what 
pathogen load is but I feel almost ready to do this now. I have lost all active 
symptoms but still have concerns about return of the pathogens including Lyme. 
Thank you so much. Can you tell me more about DP100. I also would like to get a 
dark field reading. Are they expensive? Thanks Marlene 

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  To: silver-list@eskimo.commailto:silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Friday, April 17, 2009 2:55 PM
  Subject: Re: CSCS ? Is Colloidal Silver likely to cause pathogen mutation? . 
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  I've had Lyme since 1993 and was reinfected in 2006 with lyme and 
erlichiosis. I am now 95% symptom free from using CS and the DP100 and have 
been mostly well since early 2007. I've seen very effective use of CS with 
babesia and mycoplasma and pretty good effectiveness against bartonella in 
several people, with the aid of  a dark field microscope of before and after 
sessions.  Even after stopping all treatments for many months, I did not have a 
recurrence.  If it had just driven them into cyst mode instead of killing them, 
I likely would have begun to have a recurrence of symptoms within a few weeks, 
like when one goes off antibiotics, but this did not happen. Based on that, I 
have a difficult time buying the cyst mode info that is out there. 

  Carol Monroe



   




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  Sent: Friday, April 17, 2009 9:29:41 AM
  Subject: Re: CSCS ? Is Colloidal Silver likely to cause pathogen mutation? . 
. 


  CS had a nearly identical effect of my Lyme Bb as antibiotics  I have read 
that CS, like antibiotics, forces the Lyme Bb into the motile cyst form which 
neither can kill. CS also like antibiotics had no effect on the babesia 
parasite. Herbs got that under control.


  ---Original Message---


  From: Marlene Hansonmailto:mlehan...@msn.com
  Date: 16/04/2009 13:50:48
  To: silver-list@eskimo.commailto:silver-list@eskimo.com
  Subject: CSCS ? Is Colloidal Silver likely to cause pathogen mutation? . .




  OPEN QUESTION TO ALL.
  Someone mentioned to me about the possible mutation of pathogens from the use 
of Colloidal Silver. Is this possible? Also is CS able to destroy  Yeast 
Candida, Bacteria, virus, Lyme BB spirochetes and mycoplasma? If so what 
protocol would one use to do this. How long would it take and would you wait to 
take probiotics until after the CS treatment.  Thanks Marlene




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CSCS ? Is Colloidal Silver likely to cause pathogen mutation? . .

[Marlene Hanson]

  OPEN QUESTION TO ALL. 
  Someone mentioned to me about the possible mutation of pathogens from the use 
of Colloidal Silver. Is this possible? Also is CS able to destroy  Yeast 
Candida, Bacteria, virus, Lyme BB spirochetes and mycoplasma? If so what 
protocol would one use to do this. How long would it take and would you wait to 
take probiotics until after the CS treatment.  Thanks Marlene


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CSTooth extraction- my biggest Mistake!

[Marlene Hanson]

Hi Georgia, 
Just because someone is versed in a protocol doesn't' mean they can execute it 
well. I found this about my dentist too late as well. I am sorry your 
extraction went so badly. He could have used a more humane way of extraction. 
Facial trauma is damaging to the nerves. It is important to settle them down 
and take the stress off of your immune system as soon as possible. Use the 
treatment you find most effective treatments for nerves. I would do what ever 
treatment for mouth cleanliness you choose Iodine, Hydrogen peroxide, MMS, or 
salt water. Most importantly try to remain quiet until the pain settles down. 
Something this traumatic often will create a TMJ condition which can last a 
long time. This is why you need to relieve nerve response as soon as possible. 
I would not try to chew. I would make juice or smoothies. Marlene


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  To: silver-list@eskimo.commailto:silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 6:18 AM
  Subject: CSTooth extraction- my biggest Mistake!


  Last Monday I went in for an evaluation of a severe tooth infection 
  above a breeched temporary on my molar. I tried for weeks with natural 
  remedies to heal my tooth but after 3 weeks realized the nerve died. I 
  eventually found a biological dentist 11/2 hours away and he gave me 
  the option of root canal or extraction, After reading about the root 
  canal cover up and Hulda Clark's,Huggins,and others views I 
  relunctlantly accepted an extraction. It is a decision I will always 
  regret! The upper molar was large and firmly attached to the bone. The 
  extraction took 3 hours of contiually yanking with huge pliers. All my 
  teeth were traumatized as were my bruised facial bones. I received 15 
  stitches after being stuffed with collagen. I now have a huge 
  hole,can't eat, chew, bite down, and feel a part of me was amputated. 
  The pain in my bones,teeth and gums does not subside.The right jaw now 
  hangs lower.This has totally affected my strenghth and outlook. The 
  tears keep mounting.I depended on that tooth for eating all the healthy 
  food and now I don't even want to look at food cause I can't consume 
  it. To put prosthetics and artifical materials permantently in my body 
  will not enhance my immune system and does nothing for me now! On 
  examining the large extracted tooth it was clear the infection was in 
  the pulp but the roots looked healthy and strong. I only wish I could 
  of been more informed of the issues with extraction. I now know a well 
  done root canal would of been a wiser choice and less trauma. I wish I 
  never read the negative info. I spent a month trying to save my tooth 
  to ultimatley suffer worse than when I had the infection.
  With much regret, Georgia


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Re: CSWarning

[Marlene Hanson]

Hi Dee,
I have had experience with DMSO for almost 50 years. My father had a neck 
injury and his doctor prescribed it for his inflamation.  The Doctor was very 
explicit in saying be very careful to apply on  a clean area.  My father had to 
wash with soap and rinse very well to remove any soap residue. He was also told 
not to cover it  bandage or with clothes or pants or shirts because they would 
have soap and other polution on them. My suggestion is to rinse  the rash with 
distilled or pure water.  The time the DMSO is active always seems pretty 
short.  You might puncture  a vitamin A capsule and place the oil on the rash  
to calm it down. I have never known of any serious problems from DMSO. I have 
been irritated and uncomfortable for a short period of time after using the 
straight undiluted DMSO. I hope this helps. Marlene 
PS I have heard if you use it regularly you should take Vitamin D, E, and A 
orally.. 
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  To: silver-list@eskimo.commailto:silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 12:10 PM
  Subject: CSWarning


I thought I had just better post a warning about the usage of DMSO.  As 
you know, I put the gel on husbands knee and it worked but produced this rash.  
Well, two weeks later he still has the rash and I looked it up in Widepedia.  
It seems that quite a lot of damage can be caused by solvents and it seems that 
this has happened in this case.  I realize that I shouldn't have used it neat, 
but as there are no instructions on the container, this is understandable.  It 
actually says *not* to get it on the skin but because I knew that people did 
use it I ignored this.  I'm just posting this to say that if anyone is 
recommending this product to anyone (including for use with animals) it has to 
be very clear how to use it. I am desperately hoping that this will reverse in 
time, but at the moment, he is in massive discomfort and the use of 
anti-histamines does not seem to be having much effect.  We are off to the 
doctors again tomorrow to own up to what we used.  No doubt I'll be getting a 
well deserved lecture.  Dee  
  
   

Re: CSDesideratum Bernadette request

[Marlene Hanson]

Hello Hanneke, Please send me a copy of the Desideratum. Thank You Marlene
  - Original Message - 
  FromHannekemailto:bloss...@aapt.net.au 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.commailto:silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 4:37 PM
  Subject: Re: CSDesideratum Bernadette especially


  Anyone who would like a copy but  rather not subscribe to another 
  group (although I can really recommend the microelectricity 
  group),  please feel free to send me an email and I will forward it.

  Hanneke

  At 10:58 AM 3/12/2008, you wrote:

  If Hanneke says it is okay - I can forward you my copy - or she may 
  just be willing to reforward to the group?
  - Original Message - From: Smitty 
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  To: silver-list@eskimo.commailto:silver-list@eskimo.com
  Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 7:15 PM
  Subject: Re: CSDesideratum Bernadette especially
  
  
  Thanks to Hanneke who sent me a copy of the Desideratum,
  I now have it in my saved files.
  
  Is it too big a file to forward ?
  
  Smitty
  
  
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Re: CS[List Owner] Standards and expectations... please read

[Marlene Hanson]

Thank you both for discussing this issue of communication. I am learning that 
my own form of humor or speaking tongue in cheek is not always understood. I 
shall try to be forthright and write  my posts with more gentleness. MW
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  From: indimailto:indi.sha...@gmail.com 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.commailto:silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2008 10:49 AM
  Subject: Re: CS[List Owner] Standards and expectations... please read





  Good point about the text medium, and I like your advice about dealing
  with it, too. I will try to follow that from now on. I know I can be
  somewhat impatient, but I'm not nearly as grumpy as some of my emails
  make me look.

  Thanks for setting such a good example for us.

  Cheers, 
  indi


  On Wed, 22 Oct 2008 19:49:49 -5
  M. G. Devour mdev...@eskimo.commailto:mdev...@eskimo.com wrote:

   Indi writes:
Thanks. Yes, I feel a bit on the hot seat with a couple of people
here. :)
   
   Yep! grin
   
I don't think of debate as hostility, but I have been reminded
recently that some people do. So your point is a good one. Also I
tend to forget that not everyone is as pedantic as I know can be at
times. My good enough sometimes includes a lot of factors most
people never think of.
   
   Oh, I know the temptation to be pedantic. Fight it quite often, 
   particularly in face-to-face encounters where I don't have as much
   time to think about my wording.
   
   A key element in most such misunderstandings is that this medium, raw 
   text, lacks all the other elements essential to communicating nuance; 
   tone of voice, facial expression, body language, touch.
   
   Whatever you type comes across 5 to 10 times more harshly than you 
   intend. It is a good idea to always re-read what you type in the
   worst possible tone of voice and see how aggressive, arrogant,
   insulting, rude, or insensitive you can make it sound... Then try
   writing it again to make it so the words actually communicate the
   tone you want to project.
   
   I've been at this internet stuff for over 15 years now. I've written 
   probably at least 15,000 e-mail messages, usenet or forum postings. I 
   still work very hard to make sure each message I send is as gentle as
   I can make it, of course with the rare exception of when I *want* to
   be rude! grin
   
   Without thinking about it, most people fall into the trap of reading 
   their own words with subtlety and nuance, and others' as harshly as 
   possible. We must do just the opposite: Read your own words to others 
   as harshly as possible and then make them gentler; read others' words 
   as gently as possible and assume the best intentions possible.
   
 The other expectation I'd hope to see you scale back a little is
 your belief that *anything* we could do here would result in
 institutional acceptance of CS. 

Oh, I have already seen and accepted that legitimization is far
from a common desire on this list. And that's fine, I guess I just
didn't anticipate it.
   
   I imagine few of us would not want mainstream acceptance, but I think 
   most of us doubt it's worth waiting around for and some would fear
   what degree of compromises or loss of freedom we'd suffer in the
   process.
   
   Really, I'd say ours is more of a grass roots, bottom up rather than 
   institutional, top down approach.
   
There is a lot I didn't expect here, really. But I am glad to be on
this list, there are some really intriguing people and ideas here,
and a lot of experience. 
   
   Yep, I think you got it! smile
   
Thanks for the help and the kind words.
   
   Thank you very much for your understanding.
   
   Peace,
   
   Mike D.
   
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Re: CSMeasuring or Guessing

[Marlene Hanson]

I agree with Kathryn, It might become  illegal to be well without any 
supervision of the government regulated Pharma Companies, or their physicians. 
Seriously   I appreciate the freedom we still have to share our experiences via 
the internet. I hope this freedom will not become a regulated system. M
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  To: silver-list@eskimo.commailto:silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2008 9:16 AM
  Subject: Re: CSMeasuring or Guessing



  On Oct 20, 2008, at 11:39 AM, indi wrote:

  
   Seriously, it may make a vast difference if one cares about the
   well-being of people in general. Like my Mother, for whom the doctor
   said so is right up there with it's in the bible. Or my best friend,
   dead now because the doctors were the authority, and I with my silver
   was crazy and probably experiencing a placebo effect.
  
   Yes, I'd like to see a community of caring people who are not
   anti-intellectuals attempt to nail down enough credible,
   scientifically-oriented evidence to make a compelling case that could
   then be taken seriously enough to prompt some federal grant for
   further investigation which might yield some compelling scientific
   facts.

  There has been quite a bit of research by various universities. A 
  compelling case that could be taken seriously by whom? is the 
  question. There are those who have a vested interest in promoting their 
  own products to the exclusion of all others, and they are well funded 
  and have quite a bit of political power. There has been a case made for 
  ongoing corruption in various federal agencies, several of which would 
  not withstand much scientific scrutiny.  It all seems to do with money, 
  and who is going to be making a bundle off of what product, and through 
  supression of competitor's products.  This world is not much fun for us 
  pollyanna types.

  Best Wishes,   Kathryn


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Re: CSArmour - Sol

[Marlene Hanson]

If they stop production many people will suffer. I was prescribed natural 
thyroid hormone and one of my alternative or naturapathic suggested I take a 
product called Prolamine Iodine by Standard Process Laboratories. It is only 
available through dr or approved pharmacies. You can look on the web for more 
info under Standard Process Laboratories. They have very effective products. 
Their Glandulars have helped me a lot. Marlene 
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  From: Dianne Francemailto:dianne_fra...@hotmail.com 
  To: silver-listmailto:silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2008 10:46 AM
  Subject: CSArmour - Sol


  Sol

  The following is what I got back from my daughter about the thyroid.  Had 
hoped for more information but the web site is there.  She said Walgreens and 
Walmart both told her they were having problems getting Armour and they were 
probably discontinuing production.  If someone knows where else is carrying it 
she would like to know.
   
  Dianne

  Subject: Julie
  Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2008 13:25:28 -0400

  Mom, I'm on ARMOUR now, 60 mg's.
   
   
  Ultra Raw Thyyroid is what I want to start taking,  web sight is 
www.ultraent.comhttp://www.ultraent.com/ 
   
  Thanks!


   
  Julie 








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CSControl of pesky subject matters .

[Marlene Hanson]

Helen, I hope you don't leave the forum. 
My choice is  to put habitual way off topic posters in my junk sort pile. I 
check them occasionally to see if I want to read them. This way I don't have to 
delete them. I don't mind some off topic health oriented information. I love 
the way this forum works and read it a lot. Thanks to all for making it so 
Great.
Marlene 
  - Original Message - 
  From: Helen Martinmailto:hrmar...@uniserve.com 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.commailto:silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2008 8:54 AM
  Subject: Re: CS[List Owner] Some comments and statistics...


  well..  I don't have time to edit this list of all the off topic stuff..   
because people refuse to actually use the subject line properly you can't just 
wholesale delete..  

   I'm have many other responsibilities in my life..  I came here to learn 
about CS, not every other alternative health idea that comes to somebodies 
head..  

  so, I'm gone..   again...

  thanks to the folks who have actually taught me about CS...

  Helen

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  Nanaimo, BC Vancouver Island, Canada
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Re: CSHIV AIDS Nut Cracked? Very Interesting

[Marlene Hanson]

The link posted on Science below is actually attached to a spy ware protection 
and could cause your computer problems. Do not open it. 
  - Original Message - 
  From: bbanevermailto:bbane...@earthlink.net 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.commailto:silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 4:44 PM
  Subject: Re: CSHIV AIDS Nut Cracked? Very Interesting


  Aids is curable 100% of the time with MMS (chlorine dioxide either taken 
orally or by IV).  Although it is important to follow the proper protocol in 
making and ingesting MMS, it is the most potent oxidizer we can take without 
toxic or negative side effects (other than possible nausea or diarrhea 
temporarily).  
- Original Message - 
From: Dee mailto:d...@deetroy.org
To: silver-list@eskimo.commailto:silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 9:33 AM
Subject: Re: CSHIV AIDS Nut Cracked? Very Interesting


  Couldn't make it work S-Max.  Dee 

  ---Original Message---

  From: S-Maxmailto:s...@emotap.com
  Date: 04/08/2008 16:59:41
  To: silver-list@eskimo.commailto:silver-list@eskimo.com
  Subject: CSHIV AIDS Nut Cracked? Very Interesting

  ThJust came across this article and thought it was share-worthy.
  S-Max

  http://www.sciencebloghttp://www.scienceblog/
  
com/cms/pathologists-believe-they-have-pinpointed-achilles-heel-hiv-16900
  html


 

 

Re: CSdaughters infected wisdom tooth

[Marlene Hanson]

Dear G, Your daughters tooth should be quickly resolved by taking MMS and 
brushing with it. I am sorry to hear about your continued digestive issues. I 
believe taking less for a longer period of time would resolve the irritation 
issues, but that is up to you. I have used MMS for 6 months for Multiple 
Sclerosis  lyme and am going to start with the dmso combination to see what 
happens. So far all of my issues have been resolved or much improved. MW 
  - Original Message - 
  From: gmetrop...@aol.commailto:gmetrop...@aol.com 
  To: gmetrop...@aol.commailto:gmetrop...@aol.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 9:44 PM
  Subject: CSdaughters infected wisdom tooth


  My 22 y.o. daughter is dealing with an infected wisdom tooth with a cyst 
pocket. The tooth can not be extracted until the infection is resolved. She 
would llike to use natural antibiotics. What protocol would be most effective? 
MMS,oregano oil,colloidal silver,homeopathics? Orally, topically? dosage?
  I can only afford to deal with the one she's having a problem with but assume 
I will be told they all have to come out.
  I had to abort my MMS trials after 3 weeks and getting to 22drops /d when I 
vomitted. The vomitting wasn't an issue but the continual stomach irritation 
after consumption was. No matter how much I took I had constant upper burning 
stomach pain preventing sleep etc. It has been 2 weeks and I'm still trying to 
restore balance. My chronic lyme systems remain unchanged. 


  **
  Need a new ride? Check out the largest site for U.S. used car listings at AOL 
Autos.
  (http://autos.aol.com/used?NCID=aolcmp0030002851) 

Re: CS$100,000 vaccine offer

[Marlene Hanson]

I have heard that aspartame acts as an ant attractant and killer. Maybe it also 
acts as a preservative for vaccines. Any thing the government agencys does I 
find irrational and suspicious. MW
  - Original Mressasge - 
  From: kmilkow...@cfl.rr.commailto:kmilkow...@cfl.rr.com 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.commailto:silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Cc: Ode Coyotemailto:odecoy...@alltel.net 
  Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2008 6:18 AM
  Subject: Re: CS$100,000 vaccine offer


  I have looked it up, as recently as last summer bush vetoed a bill to have it 
removed from all vaccines. It has been removed from some, not all of them. Now 
they got cute and added aspartame to take its place. Do you have an explanation 
for why they would add a sweetener to thier death cocktails??

  Kurt
   Ode Coyote odecoy...@alltel.netmailto:odecoy...@alltel.net wrote: 
   
 Several sources both here and elsewhere in the world.
   Look it up yourself.
   
   ode
   
   
   At 10:15 AM 4/18/2008 -0400, you wrote:
   
   Where are you getting the information that thimerisol has been removed 
   from vaccines since 2001?
   
    B Magnatta mom.magna...@gmail.commailto:mom.magna...@gmail.com 
wrote:
 Wow! That's something new!  If autism is related to vaccines, maybe its
 something else then in the vaccine, or maybe the huge amount of 
exposure to
 viruses and bacteria earlier and earlier in life.



 Sincerely Barb M.



 PS  Thimerisol was eliminated in the USA from most child vaccines in 
2001,

 Autism rates unaffected.

   Sweden and Denmark virtually eliminated Thimerosal in the 
70s.Autism

 rates unaffected.




   
   
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Re: CScataracts

[Marlene Hanson]

Hi Shirley, I just ordered the Can C from overseas and would like to know how 
long it takes to arrive. My doctor says it works and disolves cataracts. Thanks 
for the reply. :Marlene
  - Original Message - 
  From: Shirley Reedmailto:pj20fl...@gmail.com 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.commailto:silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Monday, March 17, 2008 3:07 PM
  Subject: CScataractn s


Thanks to all who have responded to us.  He has used ibuprofen but it did 
not help him.  Other otc's also.  Naproxen did help and he used it consistently 
until Celebrex.  He did the complete CMO thing with the product recommended on 
this list or some other by someone.  It has been a long time and I don't recall 
the particulars.  It was from an individual person, not a company.  His problem 
began 5 years after a back surgery.  The MD said arthritis would set in after 
about 5 years and it did.  However, we had no idea it would be so crippling;  
we just expected aches and pains, not constant agony.  I will tell him about 
the flax oil drops since we have and use Barlean's regularly.  He will give it 
a good try I'm sure.  He has upped his cs intake to a pint or so a day and 
doesn't have to be cajoled or reminded.  I think he will be interested to find 
out that one of the iodine docs-maybe Abraham, recommends 50 mgs. per day for 3 
months for saturation, then down to 12.5 for maintainance.  Since the iodine 
has made a noticeable difference at a lower dose, it sounds reasonable to give 
that a shot.  And I am making a gallon of new cs just now--a quart or so a day 
might be a good idea.  What's a little blue between friends. :)  But I make the 
good stuff anyway.   Thanks again to all.   I have ordered the Can-C.  It 
should arrive soon and when we know something I will report.Best wishes, pj 

Re: CScataracts Can-C

[Marlene Hanson]

Hi All, Can-C  NAC Carnosine. Dr Wright says this works and disolves the 
Cataracts. It takes 3-6 months to disolve them. The cost +shipping and less 
discount for 6 months was $257.95 this was when ordered by the Dr Office. Link 
is www.antiaging-systems.comhttp://www.antiaging-systems.com/ I am hoping 
this works as I don't want to lose my eye site and don't care for the bother of 
 maintaining the silicone lenses. Marlene 
The site shows other anti aging products as well. 
  - Original Message - 
  From: Tad Winieckimailto:winie...@pacifier.com 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.commailto:silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2008 2:19 PM
  Subject: Re: CScataracts


  Google Can C cataracts, maybe it's cheaper overseas?  What about other 
  brands?  I've seen some on some website like Swanson's or IHerb.  Would 
  they work as well?

  Nancy

  On Apr 19, 2008, at 2:06 PM, juga...@aol.commailto:juga...@aol.com wrote:

   May I ask, what is Can C? Where did you order it from overseas? 
   Somehow I've missed this thread !
   
   Thanks,
   
   ~ Judy
   

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Re: CSwe must abolish electronic voting!

[Marlene Hanson]

What do you suggest we each do. Is it the machines or Crooked people who have 
been voting the graveyards for years. I would like to be a part of the 
solution. MW
  - Original Message - 
  From: T. J. Garlandmailto:noblemet...@bellsouth.net 
  To: VICTOR BUNCHmailto:vctrbu...@yahoo.com ; Terri (For Ron Paul 
2008)mailto:pixiesta...@yahoo.com ; Steve 
Brownmailto:wstevebr...@bellsouth.net ; 
sbeck...@amsan.commailto:sbeck...@amsan.com ; 
roadorp...@comcast.netmailto:roadorp...@comcast.net ; Lee 
Catletmailto:dlee...@netscape.net ; Herb  Marymailto:hmgl...@gulftel.com ; 
Glenn Jacobsmailto:bigrdm...@starband.net ; Fred 
Childressmailto:fchildr...@fastmail.fm ; Ferguson, 
Davidmailto:dfergu...@pscmetals.com ; Carolynn 
Eldermailto:carolynnel...@hotmail.com ; Andy 
Schwarmmailto:a...@ctbusters.com 
  Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2008 5:20 PM
  Subject: CSwe must abolish electronic voting!


  They want us to believe that McCain won Texas in a landslide. A place where I 
have never heard anyone mention his name, never seen so much as a bumper 
sticker, and clearly a state that is covered by Ron Paul signs. Just for the 
sake of discussion let's say it's possible. What I find seriously hard to 
believe is this: 
  * Ron Paul got 70% of the vote in his district for Congress-37,220 votes. 
  * In that same district they want us to believe he only got 6,697 votes for 
president. 
  * That equates to approximately ONLY 1 in 5 people that voted for him for 
Congress supported him for President. They can't be serious. Don't lie to me!! 
  Please don't take my word for it, look at the numbers yourself... 
  Congressional District 14 Results - 
http://enr.sos.state.tx.us/enr/mar04_135_race4.htmhttp://enr.sos.state.tx.us/enr/mar04_135_race4.htm
 
  Presidential Race District 14 Results - 
http://enr.sos.state.tx.us/enr/mar04_135_race64.htmhttp://enr.sos.state.tx.us/enr/mar04_135_race64.htm
 
  Those who have the privilege to know, have the duty to act-- Albert Einstein

Re: CScoconut oil

[Marlene Hanson]

Thanks for the information on coconut oil. I buy it by the 5 gallon bucket 
Virgin C  O from tropical traditions. It remains good for over 4 years. It is 
recommended for 3 years. I use it on all of my hot vegetables, casseroles, 
baking and cooking. I apply it to my skin and it is a wonderful healing 
emollient  I appreciate any new used for it and find it is very healthy. 
Marlene 
  - Original Message - 
  From: Dianne Francemailto:dianne_fra...@hotmail.com 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.commailto:silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Friday, February 22, 2008 2:17 PM
  Subject: Re: CScoconut oil


  Someone in our coop was having trouble getting coconut down the family and 
found frying sweet potatoes in it worked.  Haven't tried this myself.  I need 
to order more because I think mine is to old.  I had gotten ours from Tropical 
Traditions.

  Dianne
- Original Message - 
From: faith gagnemailto:jitte...@gis.net 
To: silver-list@eskimo.commailto:silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2008 10:33 AM
Subject: Re: CScoconut oil


I thought one could eat it on toast and crackers or take it by mouth or any 
other dozen ways of eating the stuff.  Why don't you go back to Mercola if you 
liked that?  Faith  G.


- Original Message - 
  From: Patmailto:pattycake29...@yahoo.com 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.commailto:silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Friday, February 22, 2008 8:56 AM
  Subject: Re: CScoconut oil


  Although Tropical Traditions makes the best lip balm sticks ever and good 
hand soap, I can't stand the taste or smell of their oil (but I haven't bought 
any new in a couple years).  Spectrum brand was even worse (bought that one 
before I knew what to look for).  Coconut Oil Supreme is so light with none of 
that fermented or burned kind of taste.  
http://www.coconutoil-online.com/Coconut_Oil_Supreme_Starter_Kit.htmhttp://www.coconutoil-online.com/Coconut_Oil_Supreme_Starter_Kit.htm
  Another good one I've used was Fresh Shores from Mercola.com.  I want to 
use coconut oil, but other than a teaspoon every now and then, I can't think of 
many ways to use it other than on my skin.  I can't cook with it because 
husband doesn't like coconut's flavor.  I added some to bran muffins.  I 
wondered about putting it in smoothiessince it gets so hard when cold, 
wouldn't it just be a clump in the smoothie?


Pat

CSMMS will help!

[Marlene Hanson]

Hi Paula, I have been using MMS for 5 months internally. I have also used it as 
a mouth wash and tooth brushing solution. I have found that it reduced the 
plaque in my mouth and the size of the periodontal pockets in my effected 
teeth. The solution is very effective against all internal pathogens and will 
also remove toxins parasites and Mercury from one's system. We are in a 
learning situation just to find out how many different ways it can benefit the 
human body.  To find out more write me. 
mlehan...@msn.commailto:mlehan...@msn.com I am amazed at what it has done for 
me. I have been following holistic protocol for many years to recover from MS. 
This is giving me more symptom relief than any other treatment. It is based on 
getting more oxygen effect. My improvements are Improved breathing, better 
kidney function, better bladder function, reduction  of edema, Stopped MS 
spasms in legs, back, and arms, lost several pre cancer spots on face and 
hands, better digestion, better balance, loss of stiffness, better breathing, 
better skin texture and wrinkles are diminishing. MMS is a stronger version of 
a  product which has been sold in health food stores for many years. One of my 
friends in the health business has just started retailing it and it is flying 
off the shelves. I hope this is helpful for you. Marlene  

Re: CSMMs hoax or cure?/Forgot to mention

[Marlene Hanson]

Wayne I wrote you regarding the message about healing the brain. I have MS and 
would like any information you have.Thank You Marlene
  - Original Message - 
  From: Wayne Fugittmailto:cwa...@netdoor.com 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.commailto:silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 7:22 AM
  Subject: Re: CSMMs hoax or cure?/Forgot to mention


   No, I just wanted folks to know that my testimonial was not 
contrived, and hoped that by stating my profession it would lend some 
credibility to the message. 
   
 The Late, . Great  Jim Lambert would make all 
  that Crystal Clear.

  Wayne

Re: CSMMS hoax or cure? In the Brain or NOT ?

[Marlene Hanson]

Hello Wayne, I find your message below about the brain amazing and would like 
to know more. I have been taking MMS for 3 months 3 weeks for Multiple 
Sclerosis. I have used supplements in the past to increase brain functions. I 
also have used various diets to reduce the problems associated with brain fog 
and swelling. I feel I have some damage which needs addressing such as my 
organizational skills are pretty damaged. My ability to do numbers has been 
diminished. I have recovered my verbal skills to a large extent, they were 
pretty bad both writing and speaking. My hope is to repair all damage so far 
remaining in brain function.  The results from MMS are as follows. 


Up date on my  results on MMS Protocol. 

I have reduced the amount of MMS drops 40 divided  in 4 for the present from 20 
drops divided in two doses of 10. I feel that I have reduced all my symptoms 
significantly. I want to start rebuilding the brain functions as soon as I am 
certain there will not be a re occurrence of the pathogens. Lime disease is 
hard to eradicate as is Candida. I  also have and am not sure about Epstein 
Barr, Mycoplasma, Chlymedia Pneumonia, staph or strep, and the black berry mold 
infection is very difficult to stop.  I am showing signs they are much reduced 
but think they may be hanging around either in the cocoon or other hidden egg 
stages. 



For the last two days .I have experimented with taking the MMS with 15 drops of 
DMSO which I added to my 4 oz of water before mixing with MMS and citric acid 
10% solution.. I think this took the MMS to deeper levels and increased the die 
off.  Physical changes I have noticed over the past 3+ months. Breathing 
better, like normal, stopped spasms, sleeping better and longer, skin tone 
better, reduction in marks on hands, nail cuticles reduced and soft, nails 
reduced ridges and improved strength, nails naturally shiny, nails less porous 
and stronger. Kidneys are working better I have less edema all over the body 
especially. face, chest and legs. Lumps on body now think they are lymph 
nodules are softer, Lymph glands are smaller and softer under arms and breast, 
old sores  on legs, have lost red and hardness. I have had pre cancer spots on 
face and hands and legs dry up and flake off. My stiffness and aches are less 
in mornings.  Balance is better. My coordination is much improved.  I am not 
having reflux, heart burn, or indigestion. Having changes in appetite don't 
want some of the foods I used to really like.Some old symptoms come back 
and go quickly it is detox symptom and is called retracing.  I have also had 
some nausea feelings and some D as symptoms of die off.  I have used some 
digestive supports to reduce die off symptoms more water, coffee implants, and 
cascara S. I have recently started taking herbal, grass and vegetables 
alkalizing drinks. This is a course recommended by my friend Scott from 
www.curezone.comabout:blank  who has 4 years experience with the MMS 
protocol, and Dr Young who is a PH researcher and writer.. Also I have 
continued taking enzymes and drinking more water. I am very happy and excited 
by the improvements so far. I will go on the maintenance dose soon. Which may 
be 8 to 10 drops a day. 

If you have information on repairing the brain or exercising it please let me 
know.  

Thank you Marlene  PS I don't post on the CS list often but enjoy reading all 
the posters. 

  - Original Message - 
  From: Wayne Fugittmailto:cwa...@netdoor.com 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.commailto:silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 9:51 PM
  Subject: CSMMS hoax or cure? In the Brain or NOT ?

Re: CSMMs hoax or cure?

[Marlene Hanson]

Hi Dee I am receiving many health improvements from doing the MMS protocol. 
There is a good forum on www.curezone.comhttp://www.curezone.com/  it is 
under the MMS forum. I post as Marlene2038 I have taken it for 3 months and 2 
weeks. It is  chelating and killing all kinds of pathogens. Very easy and very 
inexpensive. It is not leaving any residues and it is able to improve the 
immune system and the oxidation it affords is only effective to the acid forms 
which cause disease in our bodies. I hope to see you there. MW
  - Original Message - 
  From: Dee mailto:d...@deetroy.org
  To: silver-list@eskimo.commailto:silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 5:08 AM
  Subject: Re: CSMMs hoax or cure?


This sounds to me just like the articles that have trashed CS and we 
all know what cr.p that is!  Dee 

---Original Message---

From: gmetrop...@aol.commailto:gmetrop...@aol.com
Date: 11/01/2008 06:01:44
To: silver-list@eskimo.commailto:silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSMMs hoax or cure?

Any validity to this statement found on another fourm?


Sometimes it is good to hear a different viewpoint. Regarding MMS: many 
of the scientific and chemical claims don’t make sense or are nonsense. 
chlorine dioxide is a good disinfectant, sure, but it is no mirace cure for 
anything. And while it is less toxic than chlorine it is still toxic and 
similar to chorine in many ways — including being a powerful oxidizing agent. 
For decades now people have been touting anit-oxidants for curing everything. 
Well guess what, an oxidizing agent is excatly the opposite and causes damage 
that anit-oxidants are supposed to protect you from. It doens’t make any sense. 
Basically just another health hoax.
 • 





   
   
   
faint_grain.jpg

Re: CSMMs hoax or cure?

[Marlene Hanson]

Hi Dee, The curezone is not an email list. You can read from it by just going 
to www.curezone.comhttp://www.curezone.com/ . I am also on several lists and 
it is waaay to much some days. Hope the whey is doing you well. The energy 
sounds good. MW
  - Original Message - 
  From: Dee mailto:d...@deetroy.org
  To: silver-list@eskimo.commailto:silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2008 1:01 PM
  Subject: Re: CSMMs hoax or cure?


Hi Marlene, thank you for that but at the moment I am having a problem 
with volume of emails as I am on a few lists.  I will keep it though and maybe 
join in the future who knows? At the moment, I have been following Duncans whey 
protocol and have managed to sort my constipation issues with Oxy Oxc and mag 
citrate, and I am feeling more energetic than I have in years!  Thanks again.  
Dee 

---Original Message---

From: Marlene Hansonmailto:mlehan...@msn.com
Date: 12/01/2008 19:57:13
To: silver-list@eskimo.commailto:silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSMMs hoax or cure?

Hi Dee I am receiving many health improvements from doing the MMS 
protocol. There is a good forum on www.curezone.comhttp://www.curezone.com/  
it is under the MMS forum. I post as Marlene2038 I have taken it for 3 months 
and 2 weeks. It is  chelating and killing all kinds of pathogens. Very easy and 
very inexpensive. It is not leaving any residues and it is able to improve the 
immune system and the oxidation it affords is only effective to the acid forms 
which cause disease in our bodies. I hope to see you there. MW
- Original Message -  
   
   
faint_grain.jpg

Re: CSMMS

[Marlene Hanson]

Hi Marmar, I am taking the MMS protocol and it is an effective treatment for a 
lot of symptoms. I post on the www.curezone.comhttp://www.curezone.com/  at 
mms forum. I think your husband will learn a lot. It has cleared my lung 
problems as well as many other problems associated with MS. It kills pathogens 
and removes heavy metals from the body. Many are finding it is effective 
against parasites. People on this forum are very supportive. If anyone asks 
tell them you heard  about it on the  silver list. MW
  - Original Message - 
  From: marmar...@bellsouth.netmailto:marmar...@bellsouth.net 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.commailto:silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 4:18 PM
  Subject: CSMMS


  Isn't there a chat list for MMS?  If so, would someone give me the 
subscription address please?  I think this is something that may help my 
husband, who has lung problems.  And he got his first computer for Christmas, 
so joining a chatlist would help him to learn to navigate around the internet.  
Thanks.  MA



-- Original message from cking...@nycap.rr.com: -- 


 On 1/10/2008 2:35:36 PM, faith gagne (jitte...@gis.net) wrote: 
  Chuck, the link to buy MMS ready made isn't working. It must be hollow. 
  Faith G. 
  
  
 You're right, I took that from months old post. 
 
 This will work: 
 http://www.globallight.net/Mms_86.html 
 for purchases. 
 Thanks 
 Chuck 
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Re: CSideas for possible speedier healing

[Marlene Hanson]

You may be able to find a simple pen lazer for pointing at your local office 
supply store. I use it for seeing silver particles in my cs. 
  - Original Message - 
  From: marmar...@bellsouth.netmailto:marmar...@bellsouth.net 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.commailto:silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2007 7:22 AM
  Subject: Re: CSideas for possible speedier healing


   I think I could use the laser I have to establish Tyndal in my 
   CS. That is a cold laser one isn't it?

   I'm not sure if that would work or not -- worth trying though.  A 
Respond Laser is a brand -- and it's made to be used as a method of speeding up 
healing.  It can be used on a wound site, or on accupuncture points.  It 
operates on cycles of light bursts, and on intensity -- a complicated machine, 
and expensive.  MA 

Re: CSObnoxious people... and WORDS

[Marlene Hanson]

It is true many don't have supportive people. I have found that about the time 
you think some one is supportive they show another side. I have always fought 
having a thick skin so I guess I forgive them. M
  - Original Message - 
  From: Lesliemailto:leslie1...@windstream.net 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.commailto:silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2007 8:40 PM
  Subject: Re: CSObnoxious people... and WORDS


  AGREE! And want to say I appreciate all of you as it makes my world go round. 
I haven't had too many people help me, especially around here. 

  Leslie
- Original Message - 
From: Dianne Francemailto:dianne_fra...@hotmail.com 
To: silver-list@eskimo.commailto:silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2007 5:22 PM
Subject: Re: CSObnoxious people... and WORDS


That Word was Christ and he was always kind to the sick and downtrodden.  
There are many on this site that are so knowledgeable and appreciated for their 
time they take to share that knowledge.  There are also those of us that are 
climbing that ladder that are on much lower rungs and it is welcome to have a 
hand extended down to help you up rather than a foot on your head telling you 
that you aren't worthy.

Dianne


  - Original Message - 
  From: Jonathan B. Brittenmailto:jbrit...@cc.nakamura-u.ac.jp 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.commailto:silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2007 6:15 PM
  Subject: Re: CSObnoxious people... and WORDS


  In the beginning there was the word . . . . 

  Seven of the most profound words ever written.

  Food for thought for a lifetime.







  On Friday, Nov 9, 2007, at 06:28 Asia/Tokyo, Faith Saint Francis wrote:

   WORDS are powerful .. they can either build up, of break down .. alas 
   too often they do not build up.


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Re: CSStabilized oxygen

[Marlene Hanson]

Hi Catherine, 
I have had MS for 50 years.  I have done many alternative treatments. Some of 
them have which have been successful are ozone therapy, amalgam removal and 
teeth repairs, c silver. chelation, vitamin, minerals, enzymes, and 
antioxidants, acupuncture, chiropractic  histamine, and Low dose Naltrexone, 
and Zeolite, they all have helped. I still had signs that I had disease 
processes going on.  I test positive for Epstein Barr, Mycoplasma, clymedia 
Pneumonia Lyme's BB,Candida Yeast, blackberry mold, and many other Pathogens 
not commonly known.  I was doing well with all the support but was always 
trying to keep my health from deteriating with diet and colon cleanses.  The 
toxins kept me from doing as well as I thought I should.  I started the MMS 
treatment at the end of September.  I thought it would work pretty quickly but 
with the information I had decided to start slow with only 2 drops a day I have 
gradually worked my way to more times a day and then to more drops. I am seeing 
many beneficial changes there is a discussion as to if I am getting any help 
from it or not. On the boards I monitor.  Some people don't think it is good 
because the mass media hasn't brought it forward. Well anyway I have better 
breath now I don't hurt from exercise, my fingernails are losing the ridges, 
the cuticles are not hard and thick, my skin is getting loose because of the 
edema going down.  My rings are also getting loose. It is clearing my body of 
the yeast and I think all of the other growths and foreign deposits and acid 
accumulations. I think my kidneys are working better and getting cleaned out, I 
had the MS hug once in a while now I haven't had it for 2 weeks, I had corporal 
tunnel in my thumbs I haven't had any pain for a week and 1/2.  I had a big 
mound on the inside of my hand at my  thumb on both hands they are flatter  I 
can climb up my driveway without having to stop for the pain in my back and 
upper legs to subside. I would say get the first download it is free at 
www.miraclemineral.orghttp://www.miraclemineral.org/. you will also find the 
FAQ page and a link to where to purchase the product. it is at 
m...@albertacom.commailto:m...@albertacom.com 
  - Original Message - 
  From: Catherine Creelmailto:catherine.cr...@gmail.com 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.commailto:silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2007 8:54 PM
  Subject: CSStabilized oxygen


  Dar List Members,


   I would deeply appreciate it if someone could point me in the
  direction of quality, in-depth information on stabilized oxygen.  I'm
  looking only for someone who has spent the time coming to understand
  this, not just recommendations because you've heard it was good
  (unless you heard it from someone you really trust who has the heart
  of a scientist).  Many thanks.

  --
  Regards,
  Catherine


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  to, when all they need is one reason why they can. -- Mary Frances
  Berry


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Re: CSRe: Anatolian Treasures - WAS: Lung trouble

[Marlene Hanson]

Have you looked into MMS it is @ 
www.miraclemineral.orghttp://www.miraclemineral.org/ 
  - Original Message - 
  From: Simon Jestermailto:tansta...@libertytrek.org 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.commailto:silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 12:38 PM
  Subject: Re: CSRe: Anatolian Treasures - WAS: Lung trouble


  On 11/5/2007, marmar...@bellsouth.netmailto:marmar...@bellsouth.net 
(marmar...@bellsouth.netmailto:marmar...@bellsouth.net) wrote:
    And YOU are the one who CHOSE to butt into a conversation I was 
   having with someone else, and spew your negative attitude and 
   rudeness into something that had nothing to do with you.  Most people 
   tend not to do that, Simon.  The fact that you do makes your 
   anti-social nature very evident.  The *reality* that you refer to is 
   one of your own making.  I'm not hiding from anything -- you 
   included.  MA   

  Lol! Thanks, I needed a good laugh.

  Butt in? All I did was provide a link to what you were looking for... 
  and made a casual reference to your not having looked very hard...

  Your welcome for the links, and you're forgiven for the false witness 
  bearing...


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Re: CSNew Law in Massachusetts

[Marlene Hanson]

Hi Faith, I agree with you I am also disturbed by this news.  I have to pay for 
insurance through Medical deductions on my Social Security.  I don't use any 
Pharma products from the Drug stores.  I only see alternative doctors and that 
is very seldom.  I Have used LDN from overseas  to treat my Multiple Sclerosis 
and think if the US would educate people to care for themselves we would be out 
of debt and a healthier society.  Stay aware and thank you for posting this 
information. Marlene
  - Original Message - 
  From: faith gagnemailto:jitte...@gis.net 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.commailto:silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 11:15 AM
  Subject: CSNew Law in Massachusetts


  Massachusetts (Taxachusetts) has made a new law starting July 1, 2007 stating 
that all residents age 18 and over must have health insurance or face stiff tax 
penalties.   I don't have to worry about it because I already have insurance, 
but  I am outraged.

  This law preys upon the citizens to benefit the insurance industry.  I think 
this is unconstitutional, oppressive, and deplorable.  It is archaic, for 
crying out loud.

  I called a senator's office this morning and I was told that the whole 
country is going this way.   I don't believe that B.S. for one minute.  This is 
not progressive leadership, it is regressive.  This is hard-line taxation 
burdening the people.  

  I am just ripping, but I don't know what to do about it.  Any suggestions 
folks?

  Faith

Re: CSMold, Fungus, Temp and Humidity

[Marlene Hanson]

Hi Wayne, I wonder if you could use the Chlorine Dioxide mixed and diluted as a 
spray to kill the mold in the house??? I know it is used as a disinfectant in 
food processing.  I heard it is effective as fungicide, and kills virus mold 
and bacteria. I know we have to be careful about the materials we use it on as 
it is a bleach. I found this out by mixing it in a black shirt.  I now have 
brown spots on a black shirt. Marlene I am using it internally and taking it 
slowly.  I am currently at 5 drops x 5 times a day. I am noticing some health 
improvements. 
  - Original Message - 
  From: Wayne Fugittmailto:cwa...@netdoor.com 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.commailto:silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2007 7:05 PM
  Subject: CSMold, Fungus, Temp and Humidity


  Thank You Kathryn,

   At 12:40 PM 10/24/2007, you wrote:

  The barometer and temp can change rapidly in less than a day, and can go 
  from less than 30% humidity to raining in hours, as a system
  sweeps through.

 Yes, the same is true in my area, only 200 miles from the coast.

  As soon as the weather got cold, and the humidity went down,
  I could tell a difference.

  I have hesitated to use any heat, but now that is has been raining for 3 
  days and night, I need some heat to lower the humidity.

  I had this mucous tested and the report was,
  Heavy production of friendly flora.
  Darn... I knew that, or thought that.  But still doubt all the tests.

  The MMS will zap the mucous in short order.  I could tell a difference 4 
  hours after the first dose of 4 drops.
  In 3 days, it was all gone.

  Now, I wonder if I need the mucous.

  I think I mentioned, this is a log house with a million cracks in the 
  ceilings and the walls.  They are all airtight, but still enough space for 
  all the fungus and mold to exist.

  I have decided an Ozone Generator is the only help.

  There is always a chance this mold keeps my immune system
  activated and souped up.

  When I go somewhere else for a few days and a night or two, it is much better.

  Wayne

  


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Re: CSMMS supplier

[Marlene Hanson]

Thanks Simon, Good point.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Simon Jestermailto:tansta...@libertytrek.org 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.commailto:silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 5:23 AM
  Subject: Re: CSMMS supplier


  On 10/22/2007, Marlene Hanson (mlehan...@msn.commailto:mlehan...@msn.com) 
wrote:
   You can buy the citric acid at the drug store.

  Please... why on earth would you say that???

  If you are going to try to find health, don't popint someone to an 
  extremely poor source for product.

  There is NO reason to buy 'drug store' citric acid - which is almost 
  certainly going to be loaded with extra garbage - when you can easily 
  find a pure source - like NOW brand.


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Re: CSMMS supplier

[Marlene Hanson]

 I will try to get on the MS World site you mentioned. 
Here is the e addy of Kenneth Richardson.  m...@albertacom.comabout:blank You 
can go to the Miracle Mineral site as well.  The cost I paid for 4-4 oz bottles 
was $20. a bottle
the shipping was $10. for all 4 bottles. Total order was $90. Shipping is less 
for fewer bottles. It seems to be very powerful and cheap for the results. One 
bottle will last for about a year.  It is recommended to start slowly and 
remain below nausea. Ron is taking the formula as well.  You can buy the citric 
acid at the drug store.  I am using freshly juiced lemon at 1/4 tsp to 3 drops 
of the MMS. I started using the vinegar but Jim said the vinegar may cause 
problems with feeding candida yeast. I just mix the lemon and MMS wait 3 
minutes then mix with 4 oz of water and drink in two swallows. I would suggest 
doing 1 drop the first day.  I would then do 1 drop X 2 times for several days. 
 As I said I have chosen to increase the amounts of times a day rather than 
increase the amount of drops. I feel lucky that you reached out. Keep in touch. 
 
Your friend Marlene WA, Marlene Hanson.
  - Original Message - 
  From: gwms...@optonline.netmailto:gwms...@optonline.net 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.commailto:silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Monday, October 22, 2007 6:37 PM
  Subject: Re: CSMMS supplier


  Please also send MMS supplier

Re: CSIodine

[Marlene Hanson]

Hi Ruth you mentioned the Thytropin PMG which is by Standard Process they have 
a Prolamine Iodine which I have found helpful. It is necessary to start out 
with 1 tablet and take the increases slowly. Marlene
  - Original Message - 
  From: Paula Perrymailto:p...@zoomnet.net 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.commailto:silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Friday, October 19, 2007 11:06 AM
  Subject: Re: CSIodine


  Ruth,
  I was having trouble taking forms of iodine while on the Synthroid. In my 
system it didn't work. I got off the Synthroid and am taking Armour which is 
natural. I have been taking some Thytrophin PMG too (a natural supplement not 
drug) I had the Biomeridian testing and a different doctor wanted me to take 
that. I am going to go back and be retested with the Biomeridian testing. I 
feel a lot better. I felt bad for years! My body temp had been so low for 
years. I took my temp and it was up to 98.4 and that's the highest most normal 
I've been in years. Ask your doctor to switch you to Armour. 
  Paula
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From: Ruth Bertellamailto:berte...@lfdcbham.com 
To: silver-list@eskimo.commailto:silver-list@eskimo.com ; 
mdi_n...@yahoogroups.commailto:mdi_n...@yahoogroups.com ; 
dimethylsulfoxide-d...@yahoogroups.commailto:dimethylsulfoxide-d...@yahoogroups.com
 
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2007 1:32 PM
Subject: CSIodine


Hi groups!!  (1st post to DMSO group with this)

This is one more effort to see if anyone can point me in the right 
direction in solving my thyroid issues.  I didn't receive any response to my 
last post, and hoped I might get a few suggestions this time around.

As some of y'all may have read in previous posts, I began taking Lugol's 5% 
iodine in mid Sept., then changed to Magnascent in Oct. in an attempt to 
regulate my low thyroid (hypothyroidism) and to be able to stop taking the 
generic form of 75 mcg of Synthroid my doctor has prescribed.  I don't really 
notice much difference in the Lugol's and Magnascent.  (was hoping it'd help 
with aching feet and hands as well as my thyroid)   I am up to 12 drops twice 
per day and the only difference WAS that I feel somewhat more energetic and 
waking up earlier in the mornings.  I quit taking the Synthroid last Saturday 
to see if that might help and am now having problems with feeling energetic 
enough to get out of bed.   I am still painting the 2% Lugol's on the soles 
of my feet each night and it's always soaked in by the next morning.  So 
apparently I haven't reached saturation as I had read should happen when I 
was ingesting enough iodine for my body's needs.  I was also hoping this might 
provide some relief for the feet and hand pain I started having somewhere 
around May or June of this year (thinking I might try a 20/80 mix of CS/DMSO 
for this - any comments?).  Also, does anyone have a suggestion on the name 
of a search I could do for the feet/hand thing?  I highly value all the input 
y'all give on all our various health issues and hope you can steer me in the 
direction I need to be going.  I'm truly trying to learn how to help myself 
more, and your guidance will be invaluable to me!

Thanks in advance!!
Ruth B.

RE: CSNO CODEX GENOCIDE!

[Marlene Hanson]

Hi Paula, Marlene here,Gayle,s friend from Kent. I signed the petition and have been concerned and written everyone including X pres Clinton. I know the situation warrants more and I have a few ideas which I believe would give us more power. They have been well received by all I have spoken to about them. We need a lot of money and legal representation. My doctor has been involvedfighting this codex problem for many years (Dr Wright). I also am involved with an orphand drug situation. I hope to get my phone fixed soon. Meanwhile we can correspond by e mail. My best to you Marlene WA Hanson


From: "Paula Perry" p...@zoomnet.netReply-To: silver-list@eskimo.comTo: silver-list@eskimo.comSubject: CSNO CODEX GENOCIDE!Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2007 07:32:41 -0400



Go here to sign the petition and fight for health freedom. Links, info, fighting the NWO etc.
Paulahttp://www.nocodexgenocide.com/nocodexgenocide.html 


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Re: CSAutism help

[Marlene Hanson]

Hello Paula, I recently became aware of a treatment center for Autism.  I spoke 
to Ed a therapist who was very helpful.
This is a path which may answer a lot of questions for you.  There is also a 
radio interview you can listen to at this site.  Best wishes Marlene WA  
http://www.sharpermindscenter.net/http://www.sharpermindscenter.net/ Also 
after you talk to him will send you information on a heavy metal remover which 
is safe and effective and helps many problems having to do with Autism.  
  - Original Message - 
  From: Paula Perrymailto:p...@zoomnet.net 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.commailto:silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Friday, April 13, 2007 5:48 AM
  Subject: CSAutism help


  Thanks to all of you that took the time and effort to try and help and 
support! . I have been reading up on all the information and suggestions. We 
are at the stage where we are just starting to look in to everything and all of 
the options.

  After talking to my daughter-in-law yesterday, it became clear that our 
little guy has a lot of what they call the classic red flags for autism. The 
testing will determine more or less where he is at on the spectrum. I do not 
believe he is on the severe/low end but he does show some definite signs, like 
no eye contact, does not respond to his own name, not talking, lining things 
up, and others as well.

  Hope to get him tested for heavy metals soon. I have been finding out a lot 
of promising information that I will pass along later.

  Thanks again to all who have written. 
  Paula

CSWanted to look at the link on germ killer it will not

[Marlene Hanson]

produce a connection. could you post correction? Thank you Marlene




From:"Richard Harris" yr...@cfl.rr.comReply-To:silver-list@eskimo.comTo:silver-list@eskimo.comCC:"Richard Harris" yr...@cfl.rr.comSubject:RE: CSfaecal worm cure?Date:Fri, 30 Mar 2007 17:07:14 -0400Dear Marshall, Faith and Ms Luz,Thank each of you for the excellent information you Experts so graciouslyand unselfishly share with "us seekers"!I sincerely believe that bG's 6 volt lantern battery described on:microelectricitygermkil...@yahoogroups,com complete with photos; list ofitems needed to assemble (total cost about $6); and many satisfied reportsshared by many users who have successful results. I sincerely believe thatEIS orally and 
misted regularly + using the Godzilla will give satisfactoryresults. bG recommends making several size pads used on varying body partsas his wonderful Site suggests for 10 minutes--reverse current for another10 minutes; you may repeat this treatment as often as needed, provided thatthe skin is not irritated. God is Good! All the Time!Sincerely,Dr. Richard Harris, PD59 year FL Pharmacist.-Original Message-From: Marshall Dudley [mailto:mdud...@king-cart.com]Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2007 10:48 AMTo: silver-list@eskimo.comSubject: Re: CSfaecal worm cure?Check out walnut hull extract.google for walnut hull wormshttp://www.organicnutrition.co.uk/products/indherbs/herb-blackwalnut.htmis an 
example.MarshallFaith Saint Francis wrote:  Hello, my respected Forum Members!   My wife encountered worms in her faeces and she did not like it much.   She asked me to write to the Forum and ask if Colloidal Silver would  exterminate these unsympathetic creatures.   Is there an alternative cure known to rid oneself of faecal worms?   Any help is warmly appreciated!   Luz and Faith  luzy...@une.net.co   _  Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's  FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/-- 
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CSFDA, WTA, and Food and Drug Mfgs to take health options.

[Marlene Hanson]

CS Friends, I hope this won't be considered off topic.  I have seen references 
lately that the WTA (World Trade and the European Union CODEX  the FDA are 
taking more alternative and natural treatment options from the market.  
Hormones are now considered drugs and will no longer be available at health 
food stores, Progesteron, DHEA, Melatonin are going to be regarded as drugs. 
Many herbs will be removed as well as the vitamin and Minerals will be reduced 
in strength.  I have an idea how to stand up for our rights against the Various 
organizations and political powers.  Is it alright if I post my email addy on 
this board? If not may people correspond on this subject here? Thank you 
Marlene WA PS I have Multiple Sclerosis and use the Histamine and Alternative 
Treatment board as my home base.
   Original Message - 
  From: patriot2...@mindspring.commailto:patriot2...@mindspring.com 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.commailto:silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2007 2:21 PM
  Subject: Re: CSStill OT Cholesterol/ Dr. Huggins


  At 12:40 PM 3/24/2007, you wrote:

total large bowel removal sounds very drastic.
Is there something that the very wise and knowledgable people  here  can 
help
you with?

Anyone?   V

  About three years ago, my daughter-in-law's grandmother, a little old lady in 
her eighties, but vivacious and ACTIVE, was stricken with a mysterious bowel 
condition.  They put her in the hospital, in Tijuana, where she lives.  They 
treated her with antibiotics from here to there -- and I don't know what all, 
but were not making any headway with her infection.  Her condition was going 
from bad to worse.  In frustration, finally they told her that their 
recommendation was the removal of her large intestine and placement of a 
colostomy bag.  She was very sick, but she was not about to give them a yes, 
for that.  She thought about it for awhile, and said, Thanks, but no thanks.  
I would rather die with my body intact.  And she went home.  

  I had been reading The Maker's Diet, by Jordan Rubin not long before that.  
He was wasting away and near death at age 19, with no cure or hope in sight, 
and received recommendations the same as Grandma got.  Only fortuitous 
circumstance kept him from going through with it, and putting him in touch with 
someone who took him in hand and gave him what he needed to heal himself.  Six 
months later the picture of the healthy young man in his book bears scant 
resemblance to the cadaverous picture of him at his sickest.

  I asked Carol if Grandma would be willing to try some of the things in the 
Maker's Diet, and if she had someone to help her stay on a protocol.  Answers, 
yes to both.  I hiked up to the Vitamin Shoppe in our neighborhood, bought the 
book, a bottle of Primal Defense, their goatein and a couple of other products, 
like greens powders (spirulina and chlorella) and flax oil.  I also sent along 
some colloidal silver and real kefir, with kefir grains to make more.   There 
may have been one or two other things in my rescue package, I am sorry, I 
cannot recall perfectly.  I was just a do-gooder, flying blind, you know -- not 
an expert.

  Cutting to the chase.  In a week or two, Grandma began to feel a little 
better.  (I would check once a week with my daughter-in-law.)  Appetite seemed 
a bit low.  I suggested whatever constitutes comfort food in that culture.  
(For me, it would have been milk toast, macaroni and cheese, puddings, etc. -- 
I don't know what is comfort food in the Mexican cuisine!)   That helped.  
After about a month, she reported that Grandma had gotten bored with being 
cooped up, went out and took herself for a drive all around TJ!   She has been 
fine ever since, and kept her colon intact, happily.  We see her once a year at 
a family gathering for New Years and that little old lady looks to be in 
perfect health.

  The cost of the CARE package was about $115.  I don't know that the CARE 
package was the reason for her cure, but if it was, it was a pretty reasonable 
price to save a little old lady from the fate she would have faced otherwise.

  Marlys

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Re: CSIV Question

[Marlene Hanson]

Hi Pat, I have read several places that dogs don't do well with milk or milk products especially pasturized or heated. so would find another vehicle to give the CS with. raw meat ground up or blended may be good with CS. I would give digestive enzymes such as Wobenzymes and bromelain. be well Marlene





From:Pat Lawrie doglandi...@yahoo.comReply-To:silver-list@eskimo.comTo:silver-list@eskimo.comSubject:Re: CSIV QuestionDate:Tue, 13 Feb 2007 07:51:20 -0800 (PST)

Can an IV help with that delivery? I have a very debilitated rescue dog with lymphoma and horrible skin condition and breathing problems. I have been giving CS in milk thruout day and spraying his skin, putting it in eyes, and up his nose for a week now. His skin is getting better but he is becoming more debilitated. I think tumor is pressing on a nerve as his right side is making walking difficult the past two days. He normally had a good appetite in which I was giving him raw food with vitamins and flax oil. Today he ate very little. I was thinking an IV of CS as a last hope effort as he is drinking very little water also.

How much would be appropriate to add to the IV drip or should I use it full strength? (gets back to ("how much is hard to quantify"). I have also thought of IV Vit. C, but wanted to try the CS first.

PatOde Coyote odecoy...@alltel.net wrote:

Due to the way that CS works, it's unlikely that ANY virus or bacterium is resistant, however, getting the CS to where it needs to be is always that challenge.That's why "Kills 650 disease organisms" Isn't always *Cures* 650 diseases.Contact is the key, delivery a challenge.Some places are easy to deliver to, some aren't.Kill rate has to be faster than replication rate or CS will just 'help'. [and how much can be hard to quantify ]OdeAt 12:08 PM 2/12/2007 +, you wrote:Hi all,I have just joined this great group. I have made CS using some de-ionised water and run some of my own tests to prove to myself that it is effective against bacteria and sure enough, it works very well. I have a question to you all though, and that is if CS made with the DC method and
de-ionised water is effective against viruses such as the bird flu as well?I am asking about a general disinfectant topical spray as well as an alternative to the Tamiflu anti viral, because lets face it - the chances of getting that are slim in the UK.If it is effective, are there any lab studies you are able to point me to?Thanks for any advise,J.No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG Free Edition.Version: 7.1.411 / Virus Database: 268.17.37/682 - Release Date: 2/12/2007-- No virus found in this outgoing message.Checked by AVG Free Edition.Version: 7.1.411 / Virus Database: 268.17.37/682 - Release Date: 2/12/2007--The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver.Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.orgTo post, address
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Re: CSMSM

[Marlene Hanson]

Thank you Bill, Iwill try MSMas I sometimes have problem with irregular heart beat. 
Marlene


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Bill,
Interesting story... is this what they call heart arrhythmia? If so do you know what type it is, I understand there are several types?
Nancy...


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MSM has been mentioned frequently on this list, so I thought I would mention my experience with it. About 5 years ago I had a problem with my heart skipping beats occasionally.
A friend got me some MSM, not knowing my problem and suggested a teaspoon in water or juice daily. One dose and the next day and after that the heartbeat was normal.
I continued on it for about a year and stopped taking it. My Doctor had told me the Medication for this, I couldn't take since it would react with something I was already on.
I contacted Dr Jacobs and discussed it with him and he said he had never heard of MSM helping this problem.
Recently the skipping returned and I started on the MSM and two days later the heartbeat is back to normal. I hope this information might be helpful to someone.

Bill



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CSSorry too much E-on Silver List. Must leave.

[Marlene Hanson]

Dear listers I have enjoyed getting your information.  Lately I am getting so 
many messages it takes hours to delete them.  I wish this was a board forum as 
it wouldn't require so much time.  Hate leaving but I must.  Marlene WA.  I am 
on the Histamine and alternative treatment board for MS at 
http://disc.server.com/Indices/html we have a very active board and many are 
finding help for MS and other Immune related illnesses. Many of us are using CS 
and finding it helps. You are welcome to visit.

Re: CSImmunizations

[Marlene Hanson]

Hi, (I understand and also fear immunization.  My fear is of the preservatives 
in most immunizations.  They use Mercury to preserve and sometimes they don't 
shake it every time enough and some children get a large dose of mercury with 
their immunization. I have heard that in Japan they don't use harmful 
preservatives in their immunizations.  Autism is attributed by some to the 
preservatives in the shots.  Do your research.  Some people are granted a waver 
for religious reasons.  Marlene Wa.
  
- Original Message -
From: libbie love
Sent: Saturday, June 22, 2002 8:44 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSImmunizations
  
We are changing school districts, and I recently found out that my kids will 
have to undergo more immumizations.  I have done some reading about the make-up 
of  immunizations.  Would colloidal silver help counter the viruses contained 
in the immunizations?

Re: CSsilver uses

[Marlene Hanson]

Children wire sometimes born of a mother who had venereal disease.  When left 
untreated the child would go blind.  When the Silver Chloride was added to the 
eye blindness was prevented.  It was a rule to treat all children.  I believe I 
remember hearing that the treatment sometimes burned the eye tissue.  Marlene 
Wa.  
  
- Original Message -
From: Tai-Pan
Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2002 9:57 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSsilver uses
  
 Hi d.linen,  
 Sort of indirectly, not really for blindness.  
   
 Bless you,   Bob Lee  
d.linen wrote:  
They used to put silver nitrate in the eyes of newborns to prevent  
blindness.  
Rich Adams wrote:  
  
 Can ANYONE list some commercial uses of silver other then the bandages at  
 silverlon and other then the burn centers use it?  In regards to healing  
 that is...  
  
 Respectfully,  
 Rich Adams  
  
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Re: CSIontophoresis, silver ion injection, updates to CS Website....

[Marlene Hanson]

Hi Jason, I tried your links but couldn't get through. Could you check and see 
what is wrong.  It may be my server MSN.  Thanks Marlene  
  
- Original Message -
From: AVRA / Jason
Sent: Saturday, June 15, 2002 10:15 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSIontophoresis, silver ion injection, updates to CS Website
  
Greetings, all...

I've recently updated the Colloidal Silver Database Website to include two
additional pages, the first two in an expanding section that some of you
might find interesting:  Silver Ion Injection via Electrolysis.

The first page simply highlights the conclusions of Dr. Robert O. Becker's
work:

http://silverdata.20m.com/robertobecker.html

The second one explores silver ion injection via electrolysis, but is only
the very initial results:

http://silverdata.20m.com/silveriondeliver.html

Awhile back there was a brief thread about whether to use a conductive gel
or not when treating the skin via silver ion injection...  It should be
known that there are very good reasons for doing so, depending on how much
current is being applied to the area.  The process is a bit misleading, as
there is never any problem with low current and healthy tissues.  However,
with extremely damaged tissues, even a minute amount of current can burn.
Even .3 to .5 milliamps can produce visible damage.  Injured tissues have
far less electrical resistance than healthy tissues.  Using a conductive gel
definately helps to manage the current.

Any comments on the pages/topic would be very welcome.

Also, this morning I purchased the domain:  www.silvermedicine.org ( it is
currently going through the registrar process ).

I've designed a new index page that will implemented as I switch webhosts,
which shouldn't be for about another month or so.  The old website will
remain in place as a mirror.  Traffic has been steadily increasing since the
site went online in February of 2000.

http://silverdata.20m.com/index2.html

The new design begins to address some of the suggests from listers regarding
text formatting.  After fighting with DHTML technology for a year, I'm going
to back off, despite the incredible power it can afford.  If Netscape users
maintain at least 10% of the surfer market, I'll continue to build
compatible webpages ( I know a few still have not been changed over ).  If
Netscape users drop down to 5% or less, I'll change the design.

We've had 21,334 logged hits so far this year; not bad for a project that
operates completely upon attraction, and utilizes absolutely no funds in
advertising or any other promotion; not to mention that only a very small
handful of brave colloidal silver vendors will link to the website -- in
essence, as far as web-presence goes, the site is in competition with
vendors who use a host of cross linking methods to improve traffic.

On a humorous note, I actually find it very entertaining when colloidal
silver product vendors copy a page and duplicate it on their site!  For any
budding webmasters out there, a trade secret is to always have at least one
unique phrase in your text, so that you can easily track down lazy
offenders!

Upon switching webhosts, I plan on expanding the traffic by about 4X.  The
bandwidth costs are a bit more affordable.

Some of you might be interested in the two key documents I've written in
order to theoretically make the research and outreach project legally safe:

http://silverdata.20m.com/aidsdocuments.html

There are links to Word for Windows documents ( superior ) and html
documents ( acceptable ).

One of the reasons the research project is so important to me personally:

If I can collect significant statistics on specific illnesses, two things
can be accomplished:

An effective average dose can then be found, and it might be possible to
identify the reason for efficacy variances.

By addressing a small population sample, different types of silver products
can be proven as more or less effective -- in the human body.

While the research project isn't designed to be a scientific study, it will
still be statistically accurate.

Once I have the numbers behind the use, I can also draw more cooperative
support.

On major study programs, I plan to personally oversee all of the initial
work, at least 50 cases per studied illness.  Then, I plan on turning over
the individual research project to those who show an interest who have
personally experienced the treatment...

On another note, I'm looking for some ethical opinions...

I've come to the point where I could certainly use some more advanced
equipment, and funds for laboratory testing, ect.  At this point, I simply
adsorb the costs involved myself, which I have no problem doing...  However,
the time element is certainly effected.

For instance, I plan on filming the difference between a homebrew colloidal
silver and Stephen Quinto's new Argentum ( medical use only ) product.  The
difference in action can actually be visually observed in two fresh cuts (
that is, if I can 

Re: CS3r batch of cs

[Marlene Hanson]

Hi Maxine, I also am without insurance coverage and have a long term illness.  
I have found several very inexpensive treatments which have helped me.. Will 
you share what your illness is perhaps I could help.  Marlene Wa.  
  
- Original Message -
From: Maxine Wilton
Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 1:35 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS3r batch of cs
  
Thanks, I have only medicare and now a suppliment again and they don't allow
services from some persons and I have no money.  I was drinking  Kt and
Kefir and am starting back on KT and Kefir as I don't have money to buy
450.00 worth of prescriptions either, so have to try  things ican do or make
myself.   My spouces meds are monthly 250.00 and he has to have his to
function in life. One we can get
from a donation source and am tryimg to get some of mine.
Thanks. I will check out any sites etc  that is sent to me
Maxine

-Original Message-
From: Chip Hoyle cho...@hampsuites.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Thursday, June 06, 2002 10:52 AM
Subject: Re: CS3r batch of cs


Maxine,

Have you ever tried seeing a Homeopathic Doctor?  Homeopathy is often very
effective for chronic complaints without the toxic side effects of
conventional
drugs.  If Homeopathy sounds appealing to you their is a searchable list of
members on the website of the National Center for Homeopathy at
http://homeopathic.org/find.htm

Best of luck,

Chip Hoyle

Maxine Wilton wrote:

 Hello,
   What will help pain in a damaged nerve in face from  shingles virus
after
 17 months??? I been told the virus is gone and it is the damaged nerve
that
 is the pain now and I will probably have it for the rest of my life.I
 will not live the rest of my life like this as it's not worth it  to be a
 nothing but a pain 24 hrs a day 7 days a week etc.
  Maybe if they sever the nerve at the point of the pain?
  I have been taking Vit B, Super Lysene,  Turkish Oregano,  Olive Leaf
 extract capsules, C S  and added gatorade to it through the day. Was
 drinking Kombucha and Kefir and was told not to take those  while
drinking C
 S but am going to start back on them Am and Afternoon and drink CS in
 between but wait 30 min or hour after Kt and Kefir.
  These things help lesson the pain but only up to a point as if a brick
wall
 stops abt midway.
  I  went through the Cs saturation etc.
  I found that a warm heat pad helps for a while then pain is back. I
can't
 lay in bed with a heat pack on my face the rest of my life.
  I have also taken IBprofin (3  - 200's) and helps but nothing  has
stopped
 it.  Knife welding terrible pain at times sharp pains Start with corner
of
 left side of mouth down under chin back  up along side face into ear up
to
 temple and  across face to mouth.. Sometimes usually in morning wake up
with
 bad  headaches. Stabbing  sharp burning pain.
 God never gave Satan this kind of pain to wield in hell.
  I also have  a Herbalist  made up  a tea with about 6 or more pain
killing
 herbs plus others for immune etc I drink.  I have an apmt with a
 Nerologists on 20th at a well  known Seattle Wa clinic  hosp. I go to
 otherwise i to in Fed. Way, Wa. as they don't have one that goes to Fed
Way.
 I also have a small bottle of med for ear and use it as well.
   I  have a spur in  right shoulder that has made a hole in my rotor cuff
 and may now have more damage there. It also is and has been for some
months
 now pain all down my  right arm into my hand and 2 forefingers.
  I also have to have Bo Tox treatments for muscles around my eyes due to
 Blephospasum of eye lids now for about 8 yrs.
   Pain pills for the Shingles  stopped up my digestive and elimination
tract
 for 2 weeks and I couldn't keep pills or even water down  and lost 25
lbs.
 So the pills Zamfir, given for shingles didn't get a chance to  stay to
do
 any good.
 I wasn't told to drink lots of water.
   I found out about KT and then Kefir about  7 months ago and it got my
 system back in order  and I need to get back to it.
  But this pain has to get gone and soon..
 I realy would like to grab that  40+ yr old  son of the couple that
invited
 us to the xmas dinner in 2000 that brought  his sick with chicken pox
teen
 ager to their house that day and never told anyone about it.  I would put
 some brains into his head and beat out the hot air in it.  His parents
also
 got shingles but mine is worse. They are also on CS and Kt and Kefir
having
 got them from me.  They also have been helped with them.   We make our CS
,
 Kt and Kefir. and CS for our friends.
 Some  stupid people! ! !  take sick kids anywhere.
 Well got get another  glass of CS and gatorade   then  a cup of   herb
tea.
 Maxine
 mm...@sprynet.com

 -Original Message-
 From: Ian Roe ian_onta...@hotmail.com
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com
 Date: Thursday, June 06, 2002 5:37 AM
 Subject: Re: CS3r batch of cs

 Hi:
 
 This person with Hep C may try AG Immune from www.bodywise.com   I

Re: CSCaution on Chondrotin From HSI article

[Marlene Hanson]

Hi Gary, I did mean MSM and I would appreciate it if you could deliver your 
information with a little more respect for our conversation.  You may know some 
things but yours is not the final say.  Things change daily and if you are 
stiff and know every thing how do you plan to learn more. Marlene Wa.  
  
- Original Message -
From: Gary Green
Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 12:55 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSCaution on Chondrotin From HSI article
  
  Hi Gary Green, you will find the article mentioning Chondrotin below.


Thanks

  I have also been advised that research on Chondrotin indicates that
the molecular size is to large to be utilized and doesn't benefit
the treatment of joint problems.

BS and poppycock.  Many molecules are large and get absorbed.  This
is just more disinformation.

  I have personally used MSN in combination with Glucosamine with
success for several years. I hope this information is helpful.
Marlene


You mean MSM?  What is MSN?

Clinically speaking, I've treated many patients who have been taking
GA for years with no results.  The addition of Chondroiten in the
proper ratio turned the trick and they got better.




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CSCaution on Chondrotin From HSI article

[Marlene Hanson]

-mail, like Bob did,
and with your fellow members through the forum on our website
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Also, if you or someone you know has been diagnosed with
prostate cancer, I strongly recommend you visit Dr. Myers' web
site (www.prostateforum.com). He has personal insight on the
toll prostate cancer can take on you, and a remarkable track
record for helping men battle and manage this disease.

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Sources:
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From: Gary Green

On Friday, May 10, 2002, at 09:37 AM, Marlene Hanson wrote:

 Hi All, just read report stating that Chondrotin has been found to
 expedite both prostate and breast cancer in progress. Current Study
 showed Glucosamine and MSN doesn't cause problems with these
 cancers. Marlene   

Glucosamine by itself is very ineffective for treating cartilage
problems.  You really need to combine the Chondrotin with it.

Where does this information about Chondrotin come from?



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Re: CSRheumatoid Arthritis Caution on Chondrotin

[Marlene Hanson]

Hi All, just read report stating that Chondrotin has been found to expedite 
both prostate and breast cancer in progress. Current Study showed Glucosamine 
and MSN doesn't cause problems with these cancers. Marlene   
  
- Original Message -
From: j...@natel.net
Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2002 10:22 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSRheumatoid Arthritis (was Re: CSFw: SO Please Help if you can.)
  
In article 000e01c1f75e$b1f69bc0$e232e...@computer,
Bill Missett miss...@prodigy.net.mx wrote:

Have you tried glucosamine chrondritin and MSM?

Also, try cutting from the diet all nightshade veggies (tomatoes,
potatoes, peppers,  eggplant.)

I had an arthritic-like condition of the joints and connective tissue
that I believe may have been caused by cigarette smoking, and I found
that eliminating all nightshades greatly reduced the number of
flare-ups. After about three years of no smoking the condition
disappeared, and I can again eat as many nightshade veggies as I want.

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Re: CSAlternative treatments

[Marlene Hanson]

Getting your nutrition balanced and PH corrected can be beneficial.  I have 
found reducing simple Carbohydrates, B vitamins, and minerals helped my CT. 
 The Chiropractic adjustment of arms neck and hands was also beneficial. 
Marlene


Alternative treatments
   Any one out there know of alternative treatments for carpul tunnel in 
the hands (not sure if the spelling is correct).

   Looking for some thing besides going under the knife.
   I had the cortisone shots with limited success for a short time.

Thanks Bob

  Dear Bob, One of my professors at BYU has a teenage son who had carpal 
tunnel pain, which the docs wanted to operate on. They met a chiropractor 
at church one day. When he found out the boy had CTS, he asked has he ever 
fallen down, onto his hands? She said yes, so with her permission he 
adjusted the boys`s hands. The pain was gone and didn`t come back. I have 
also heard that using vitamin B6 helps.


  Good luck!!
  Marshalee






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Re: CScolloidal copper

[Marlene Hanson]

Recently read post on this List about Serrapeptase Enzyme from Silk Worms. 
Article available on www.vrp.com  It is said to desolve tumors, clean blood, 
body of toxins and clean plac from circulatory system. I ordered 3 bottles. 
Doctor had already suggested Bromelain and Digestive enzymes taken 6 times a 
day.  I take one of each with each meal with Betain Hydrochloride. Two hours 
after eating I will take 1 more of each of the enzymes.  It makes perfect 
sense to me. Several years ago I treated with a Dr Jennifer Scripts Huntoon 
in Washington, Who specializes in Enzyme therapy.  She used many different 
enzymes targeted at different problems, but I think this Shotgun approach 
should help a lot. I am using VRP(Vitamin Research Procucts) Digeszyme, 
Serrapeptase and Bromelain.  Hope this helps Marlene




From: Ode Coyote coy...@alltel.net
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CScolloidal copper
Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2002 07:20:57 -0400

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Re: CScolloidal copper

[Marlene Hanson]

Hi Carl, I would be cautious in using copper.  Very little can disrupt the 
balance for me.  I have tried copper braclets which increased spasticity I 
have MS.  I have tried copper powder and it gave headaches.  Copper is 
necessary but in very small amounts.  the powder was too much at 1/16 th 
inch on the tip of a knife. I am not a fear filled person but thought I 
would let you know my experience. Please Be Careful Marlene




From: Carl George cgeo...@fullnet.net
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CScolloidal copper
Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 11:07:54 -0500

Hi, List

Another question about Colloidal Copper. Yesterday, I tried to make my firs 
batch, using the same equipment that I use to make CS ( one gallon crock 
pot that keeps the temperature about 140 degrees; AC-DC converter which 
delivers 24 volts, 525 mA). Of course, I used copper wire and copper 
bracelets (to increase the surface area of copper) in the distilled water 
(0.2 on the Hanna meter).


Now, when I use this apparatus to make CS, I can make a gallon of CS in 
about 3-4 hours, which agglomerates to about 10-15 ppm. I assumed that the 
CC would be similar.


But it wasn’t. I cooked the CC (colloidal copper) for 24 hours, after 
which it tested out at 3.6 ppm. And while it was not a dark black, it was 
not perfectly clear. The CS I have made is perfectly clear. This CC was 
not. It was darker. No taste to it. But it was darker than the CS.


Of course, my question is: Is this normal ? To take 24 hours to make 3.4 
ppm? To have a dark opaqueness to it?


If not, any ideas as to what I am doing wrong? All suggestions would be 
appreciated. Again, thanking all responses in advance.


While I am on the net, I think someone had a question as to what colloidal 
copper was used for. Well, I haven’t used it yet, but in my readings it is 
used to clean the arteries and veins (good for arthritis, rheumatism, and 
vericose veins). That is why I am trying it. It is also said to be good for 
collagen production, protein metabolism, and as a brain/synapse stimulator. 
I got this information searching Google for colloidal copper.


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Re: CSSerrapeptase-The garbage collecting enzyme

[Marlene Hanson]

Hi Craig, I would like the address to order the Serrapeptase.  I to have 
Multiple Sclerosis and lumps just below the skin.  I have started taking 
digestive enzymes between meals to clean up my blood.  I take the enzymes with 
meals and then 2 hours after eating.  Recent information says that this will 
help to clean toxins, pathogens and undigested food and the blood.  I am 
thinking it should break down excess immune particles and allow my immune 
system to begin functioning better I am symptom free but want the extra boost. 
I think it will also clear up allergies.  Thank you so much. Marlene  
  
- Original Message -
From: Craig Chamberlin
Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2002 2:37 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSSerrapeptase-The garbage collecting enzyme
  
Hi List members,

I have been urged to tell about the results I have experienced using
serrapeptase.

First, it is used as PART (I don't believe you should use it for this by
itself.  If I remember correctly, vitamin C in good sized doses were
included.  Find the entire protocol, otherwise you could have problems.)
of a non-invasive treatment for atherosclerosis by Dr. Hans Neiper of
Germany.  It is an enzyme isolated from the silkworm, and was discovered
by Japenese researchers.  Donna has given the URL where it can be
purchased, but it is available other places.  The one important thing to
remember is the tablets must be enteric coated, otherwise the enzyme is
useless.

What I used it for was not atherosclerosis.  I had three sebaceous cysts
on my back, one had grown to where it was protruding 3/8-1/2 inch.  I
wanted to test the serrapeptase for its garbage collecting capabilities.
So changing nothing else, I began taking a 10 mgs tablet 3 x a day.

After a month, the smaller two were almost not noticeable, the larger
one had shrunk maybe an 1/8 inch.  After 3 months the smaller ones were
gone, the large one was barely visible.  Then, due to circumstances, I
stopped taking the serrapeptase.  It has been a year or more, and the
large one is still the same, one of the other small ones has begun to be
noticeable again, and the third has not returned.

I just need to start taking it again, but has to be taken on an empty
stomach, and I keep forgetting.

FWIW,

Craig


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Re: CSListowner comments... please read

[Marlene Hanson]

list,
I think a little experimentation may be helpful.  If one were to use a mineral 
like Magnesium it might replace or absorb the silver.  I am going to mix some 
magnesium with some CS see what happens then filter it through a coffee filter 
and see if I have any silver left in the resulting water by using a lazer.  I 
might just get gunk but it is a start.  Calcium may be my next trial.  and so 
on. Marlene  PS please I have made  milky silver with Ascorbic Acid is it CS or 
useable.  Will someone give me an answer?
Thank you Marlene
  
- Original Message -
From: M. G. Devour
Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2002 6:35 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSListowner comments... please read
  
Dear group,

Janis has come back to us to ask if we have any information about
chelation, or anything else that might be able to help a mild case of
argyria.

Donna Earnest stopped using silver and left the list over a year ago
after she also was told she looked grey.

Both took a WaterOz silver product of high concentration and suspected
of containing silver salts.

At the time, WaterOz was a brand of silver preparation that a number
of our members were reporting was quite effective. Perhaps Janis and
Donna, themselves, were among those recommending it.

Now we have not one case, but two, of people turning grey.

This is not the time, ladies and gentlemen, to stick our heads in the
sand. If the mission of the Silver List community is really to ...

...welcome both newcomers and experienced users who want to learn
about Colloidal Silver, and to, ...share the most fair, unbiased,
and good quality information we can, freely, without regard to ego or
self interest...

... then we need to take Janis seriously and treat her respectfully.

I believe that Janis has answered adequately in her recent post the
question How much did she take? If she ...purchased a total of 9
gallons of WaterOz and sold 3 to friends and gave some away and still
have 1 partial one left sitting...  then that certainly sets the upper
bounds for the answer.

Any mathematical imprecision in her answers, including messages from
many months ago, can be excused as the rough approximations that they
were intended to be.

Although we would *like* to have an ironclad medical diagnosis of
Argyria, complete with skin biopsy and analysis, I think there's plenty
enough to go on without it. If she wants to sacrifice a little flesh to
our curiosity, I would be grateful as hell. If not, I would certainly
understand, wouldn't you?

Janis is handling her situation better than any of us has a right to
expect. She's taking full responsibility for her actions and remaining
hopeful:

I have to admit I should have heeded the words of someone saying that
high parts per million and taking ionic silver wasn't a good idea.  I
should have stayed with the colloidal silver I made and knew exactly
what went into it...

I took the WaterOz silver in fairly large amounts and I really think
that is what has caused this.  I knew from all the talk that there was a
possibility of this happening so I only blame myself and no one else.

When I had Lyme I held out ... hope that I would get better although
many told me I wouldn't. Just like now I am holding out hope I will
find either something to make it better or start telling people to Kiss
my A## when they say I look grey.  LOL 

That's an attitude I can work with, folks. Janis, please continue to
be patient with us.

I want to hear again of any ideas you may have on ways to help
eliminate argyria. We've got a chance to learn something here, and a
friend who is asking for our help. Let's give it.

Marshall, what was that oral chelation program you used? I remember
reading that EDTA works best on lead, and that there was another
chelating agent that works better for Mercury. Is there one for silver?

Be well,

Mike Devour
silver-list owner

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RE: CSCSWhat have I made?

[Marlene Hanson]

Hi Bob,
I was using a smidgon of Vitamin C Ascorbic acid and 3 9 volt batteries in 1 
quart of distilled boiling water. It is quite milky looking. When the red 
lazer is shined through it it casts a pink glow to the whole jar. I would 
like to safely use it for something.  I would like to know what it is.  
Would it be called Silver Ascorbate, Silver ions, or CS or Acid Silver? 
Thank you for your response.  Marlene




From: Bob Bartell bobbart...@earthlink.net
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CSCSWhat have I made?
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 01:44:27 -0400

Were you making low voltage Lemonade or High Voltage LimeAde?

-Original Message-
From: Marlene Hanson [mailto:mlehan...@msn.com]
Sent: Monday, April 15, 2002 8:40 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSCSWhat have I made?



Any one please.
I used ascorbic acid just a little in my normal Colloidal Silver
formula.
The distilled water turned milky in just 10 minutes, with a hint of
yellow.
I tested it with the lazer and it showed up very high beam across the
bottle. Should I use it? What can I call it? It appears to be colloidal
but
would like sound opinion.
Thanks Marlene

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CSCSWhat have I made?

[Marlene Hanson]

Any one please.
I used ascorbic acid just a little in my normal Colloidal Silver formula.  
The distilled water turned milky in just 10 minutes, with a hint of yellow.  
I tested it with the lazer and it showed up very high beam across the 
bottle. Should I use it? What can I call it? It appears to be colloidal but 
would like sound opinion.

Thanks Marlene

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Re: CSnutritional anemia

[Marlene Hanson]

Hi, Many times our bodies do not utilize the nutrition which we take in.  It 
takes many years of cautious eating and supplementation to repair the 
digestive system.  I have been on this course most of my life and have found 
that some foods interfer with my system. I personally must not eat sugar, 
grains, or most simple carbohydrates. My body wants fresh vegetables with 
some fruits.  I must take digestive enzymes and even take them between meals 
as well. I can eat fish, meat and eggs now although for years I had to 
rotate them and only eat each type of meat once a week.  some of us also 
have toxic loads due to pathogens in our system. I am using herbs to fight 
this possibility now.I hope this helps.  Marlene




From: Connie wufn...@stargate.net
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSnutritional anemia
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 11:45:50 -0400

Thanks Marshall,
I had gastric bypass surgery nearly 2 1/2 yrs ago. AFter this surgery it is
imperative that I use nutritional supplements for the rest of my lifeI
have not been doing it...
(my reason for not wanting any sermons on nutrition), I have made my bed,
and I certainly do lay in itI have chosen not to care for myself
properly.
Occult bleeding was certainly checked, and ruled out. It certainly is the
obvious problem, lack of supplementation, and not getting enough proteins
in.
Thanks Marshall!
Connie


 From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@execonn.com
 Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 10:54:26 -0400
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: Re: CSnutritional anemia
 Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Resent-Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 07:55:09 -0700

 Be aware that anemia can come from a number of things, nutrition is only 
one

 of
 them.  Parasites, especially those that drink blood, can contribute to 
anemia

 significantly.  These include worms, fleas, ticks and so forth. So can
 internal
 bleeding.

 Marshall

 Connie wrote:

 Please I don't need advice on eating right or supplements...just asking 
for

 some info:

 Can someone tell me the symptoms of nutritional anemia?

 My iron count is 16, should be at least 30. Gonna try a bit of a 
search, but
 curious as to what I might find, beyond the obvious symptomstired, 
cold,

 pale, etc.

 TIA,
 Connie

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Re: CSCS ointment

[Marlene Hanson]

Hi George, If you have the container look at the ingredient list the first 
ingredient is the most abundant in recipe the second next and so on.  I 
would just experiment till you get the right consistancy. I make my salves 
and ointments using this approach.  Marlene




From: Carl George cgeo...@fullnet.net
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To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSCS ointment
Date: Sun, 7 Apr 2002 22:30:06 -0500

Hi, Listers,

I promise, this will be my last post of the day.
Does anyone have a recipe for making CS ointment (or salve). I bought 
some ($15.50) made by Silver Wings. Ingredients were  organic, cold pressed 
aloe vera jelly; colloidal silver, and tea tree oil. It works really well 
on burns, itches, etc. But it is pricey, and if I could make it, I would 
much rather make it than buy it.

But how much CS should I put with aloe vera jelly, tea tree oil, etc.
I would appreciate any information.

Thanking you in advance.


Carl George





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Re: CSCS in an Aquarium

[Marlene Hanson]

Hi Dan, You might try getting an algae eater, I believe it is called a 
Placostamus.  They are wonderful helpers and fun to watch.  Marlene  
  
- Original Message -
From: Dan Williamson
Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 4:53 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSCS in an Aquarium
  
Has anyone used CS in an aquarium populated with fresh water fish to
control algae?


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Re: CSSilver Compounds and electrobiological/electromagnetic response

[Marlene Hanson]

Hi Ivan, What is 1, 3, Beta Glucans and would this work for skin tumors?  
Thank you Marlene  
  
- Original Message -
From: I Anderson
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 4:27 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CSSilver Compounds and electrobiological/electromagnetic response
  
Jason,
just some comments on some of your message.

 When a tumor forms, it is very difficult to eliminate through
 dietary means
 alone, when the dietary changes do not directly address the
 tumor growth.
 The problem is a bioelectric one.  Dr. Becker demonstrated
 that a tumor, and
 cancerous cells in general, are the most positively charged of all
 tissues.

Bioelectrics, chemical potential, pH are all measures of the same
thing from different perspectives.
Cancer cells are the most positively charged of all cells because they
are the most acidic. Being acidic means a high concentration H+ ions
(high positive charge and low pH).
Cancer cells become highly acidic as a result of nutrients crossing
from a more acidic than normal extracellular fluid (plasma) which
causes a break down in the cellular channels which in turn does not
allow oxygen to pass into the cell. Without oxygen energy production
changes from oxidation to fermentation, the product of which is lactic
acid which accumulates and thus causes a large drop in pH.
Diet plays a great part in the pH of the extracellular fluid. Cancer
cells cannot grow in alkaline environments, because in these
environments oxygen is abundantly available and mutated cells either
lie dormant or die.
Calcium is the most important mineral in maintaining a healthy and
buffered serum pH, and ultimately the bioelectric condition of tissue.
Vitamin D is essential in the absorption of calcium. A diet which pays
attention to these facts, and is otherwise sensible, will be well
protective against cancer.

Large cancerous growths can be pretty readily eliminated through the
high pH method, skin cancers respond well to this also, or can be well
treated by the injection of 1,3 beta glucan into the base of the
cancer mass. I personally don't see the point of attempting electrical
treatment, but wish you luck, and look forward to discussing a
successful treatment.

Regards
Ivan.




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CSMelanoma, Caused by?

[Marlene Hanson]

  
 Hi Wayne,  
I also am concerned at the hogwash we are being fed about Sunshine causing Skin 
Cancers.  I believe the real cause are the unnatural chemicals which we are 
feeding and putting on our bodies. We are eating Polyunsaturated, partially 
unsaturated, hydrogenated and chemically altered oils.  We also put on 
unhealthy combinations of petroleum based sun tan oils, mineral oils and 
chemically broken oils. Oils which have chemical perfumes. And what about the 
sunscreens are they of any benefit? I won't use them I think they are 
hazardous.  We put insect repellants on our bodies then go play in the sun.  We 
are also subjected to chemically filtered sunshine. We also breath air which is 
polluted with many cancer causing chemicals. The majority of people do not eat 
foods which pass through the system easily.  Many people have slow digestion 
which allows toxins to develop in the digestive system. Our meat comes from 
fish and animals which are fed hormones, antibiotics and sprayed with 
insecticides. I believe in sun exposure.  My Holistic Doctor has suggested that 
I take 1 tablespoon Carlson's Lemon Flavored Cod Liver Oil twice a day to get 
DHA, DPA, ALA, Vitamins A and D.  He feels the that it helps to protect the 
brain from damage caused by MS. He also thinks it is protective of cancer. How 
about that.  Marlene   

- Original Message -
From: Wayne Fugitt
Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 1:29 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSMalignant Melanoma
  
Evening Larry,

  BONG, the light went on... I had bought a hot tub in1992 and use to get
the chlorine so strong it would burn my eyesDUH DUDE.. DUH.

   I think chlorine is bad, any way you cut it and any way you get it.

   It appears to me, the mainstream is trying to brainwash the masses to
believe the sunshine is bad and causes some forms of melanoma.

   In following this brainwashing, I have been irritated that the weather
channel has had numerous ads telling the children to play in the
shade.   Even the Blue Cross publication had articles damming the sun and
telling parents to keep children out of the sun.

   Now I get a newsletter from a half mainstream / half alternative doctor
that says limit sunlight exposure to 15 minutes.   ( Dr. Julian Whittaker )

   To show how much I believe this hogwash, I just came in from a 1.5 hour
work session in the sun with my shirt removed.  Likely I will get 1.5 to
2.0 hours more before the day is over.

   I realize that specific individuals who have major body chemistry
problems, multiple vitamin and mineral deficiencies, could in fact be
damaged by the sunlight.

   Recently I read an article that was quoting world statistics on melanoma
which stated that a large percent of the cases are in the northern states
that get the least sunlight.

   So. have I been brainwashed in the wrong direction, or. is there
a mainstream move to create more cancer?

   Wayne







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Re: CScancer black salve remedy

[Marlene Hanson]

Dear Jason, I would like a copy of information about the Black Salve.  I have 
several growths and pre cancer skin conditions.  Thanks Marlene  
  
- Original Message -
From: AVRA / Jason
Sent: Monday, April 01, 2002 8:08 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CScancer black salve remedy
  
Joseph:

I agree, it is certainly not for the fainthearted.

Jason


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To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Monday, April 01, 2002 5:51 AM
Subject: Re: CScancer black salve remedy




 For those interested in knowing how I successfully used
 Blood root + ZnCl + wheat dough + H2O, send an email.
 In my opinion, blood root methodology is not for the faint
 of heart.

 Joseph


 At 09:24 PM 03/31/2002 -0500, you wrote:
  
   (A FOLK REMEDY)
  
   NOTE: NO CLAIMS CAN BE LEGALLY MADE ABOUT THE BLACK SALVE. THIS
   INSTRUCTIONAL DOCUMENT HAS BEEN PREPARED AS A NARRATION OF WHAT USERS
HAVE
   REPORTED TO BE THE MOST EFFECTIVE WAY TO USE THE SALVE AS A FOLK
REMEDY
 AND
   WHAT SOME HAVE REPORTED AS RESULTS. IT IS NOT INTENDED AS A REPORT OF
   SCIENTIFIC STUDIES AND IT IS NOT OFFERED AS ENDORSED BY THE AMA OR THE
 FDA.
   IT IS INTENDED TO BE AN HONEST REPORT OF WHAT IS KNOWN FOR THOSE WHO
ARE
   INTERESTED.
  
  
   HISTORICAL BACKGROUND
  
   In 1890, Tom McCrorey was diagnosed by physicians as having incurable,
   cancerous tumors on his neck. They refused to operate, not wanting to
risk
   his jugular vein. Tom said he paid attention to a repeated dream that
came
   to him about how to make a medicine to cure himself. He obtained the
   elements and herbs for the medicine from some gypsies traveling
through
   Texas at the time, mixed up a black salve and applied it to his
tumors.


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Re: CScancer black salve remedy

[Marlene Hanson]

Hi Joseph, I have several pre cancer conditions and would like to try the Black 
Salve on them.  Thank YOu Marlene  
  
- Original Message -
From: Joseph Cummins
Sent: Monday, April 01, 2002 5:10 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CScancer black salve remedy
  


For those interested in knowing how I successfully used
Blood root + ZnCl + wheat dough + H2O, send an email.
In my opinion, blood root methodology is not for the faint
of heart.

Joseph


At 09:24 PM 03/31/2002 -0500, you wrote:
 
  (A FOLK REMEDY)
 
  NOTE: NO CLAIMS CAN BE LEGALLY MADE ABOUT THE BLACK SALVE. THIS
  INSTRUCTIONAL DOCUMENT HAS BEEN PREPARED AS A NARRATION OF WHAT USERS HAVE
  REPORTED TO BE THE MOST EFFECTIVE WAY TO USE THE SALVE AS A FOLK REMEDY
AND
  WHAT SOME HAVE REPORTED AS RESULTS. IT IS NOT INTENDED AS A REPORT OF
  SCIENTIFIC STUDIES AND IT IS NOT OFFERED AS ENDORSED BY THE AMA OR THE
FDA.
  IT IS INTENDED TO BE AN HONEST REPORT OF WHAT IS KNOWN FOR THOSE WHO ARE
  INTERESTED.
 
 
  HISTORICAL BACKGROUND
 
  In 1890, Tom McCrorey was diagnosed by physicians as having incurable,
  cancerous tumors on his neck. They refused to operate, not wanting to risk
  his jugular vein. Tom said he paid attention to a repeated dream that came
  to him about how to make a medicine to cure himself. He obtained the
  elements and herbs for the medicine from some gypsies traveling through
  Texas at the time, mixed up a black salve and applied it to his tumors.


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Re: CS.999 VS .9999

[Marlene Hanson]

I would like to take a stab at getting at this in a language based way 100% is 
a whole of  or decimal 1.00.

99% means that you have 99 parts of one whole so if that whole is silver it is 
99 parts silver with one part being of  different elements or .99.  

What if that 1% is partly silver as well. IF that 1 % is 1/2 or 50% could be 
silver=99.50%.   It could be that the 1% of the object is 99% silver as well 
making it 99% + .99 or 99 parts of the 1% being silver making the whole of 
99.99% pure silver.  
 Convert this to decimals it would be ..  to simply this further it could 
be 99.99% which would convert to the decimal of . purity no percentage mark 
would be used with the decimal approach.  99.999 would be approached the same 
the last number being a part of the previous decimal particle making it .9 
meaning less of the object would be of another element.  .999 is for most 
intents pure enough . would certainly be very pure. Unless the Canadians 
have another way of determining decimals and percentages.  

I hope this helps Marlene
  
- Original Message -
From: Joseph Cummins
Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 2:55 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS.999 VS .
  

Based upon the info I have these coins are 99.99%


At 12:25 PM 03/12/2002 -0500, you wrote:

Ah!!! So a one ounce Maple Leaf coin contains 999 ounces of silver.  

Marshall  

Joseph Cummins wrote:  

   

I too thought the same till I examined these coins.  
Take a careful look and you will notice that there is  
no dot before the four nines.  
Joseph  
   
   
   
   

At 11:33 AM 03/12/2002 -0500, you wrote:  

It would seem that this real expert is mathematically challenged. . is 10 
times as pure, not 1000.  I personally use Canadian Silver Maple Leaf coins 
witch are ., certified by the Royal Canadian Mint.  They are always 
available on ebay auctions at reasonable prices.  

Best Regards to all,  

Arnold Beland  
   
- Original Message -  
From:mikejon...@wmconnect.com  
To: silver-list@eskimo.com  
Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 10:43 AM  
Subject: CS.999 VS .  
   
Here's what the REAL researchers say NOT to use:
   
1-  
Uncontrolled Current caused by generation systems which use uncontrollable 9 
Volt transistor radio batteries  
(Only Current Controlled AC/DC laboratory grade power supplies should be used 
to produce Colloidal Minerals)  
2-  
.999 percent silver wire (a lessor quality of silver on market, used for 
necklaces and jewelry)  
(. is 1 thousand times purer than .999 silver  - If you want 1 thousand 
times more metal and mineral impurities in your Colloidal Silver,  then go 
ahead and use the least expensive silver wire (.999) for your colloidal 
production.
   


   
   
   
IM LOOKING FOR INPUT HERE, I JUST BOUGHT A CS GENERATOR, AND HAVE .999 PER CENT 
 WIRES
   
SO, IM GETTING IMPURITIES?

Re: CSFw: CSFw: mineral oil

[Marlene Hanson]

Mineral oil or rubbing alcohol is not going on my skin.  I use castor oils, 
avocado oils, and aloe vera.  I think you will like The effects of Castor oil 
with Jojoba oil.  Castor oil on the feet with sox left on all night will draw 
out poisons and soften your feet.   
  
- Original Message -
From: Acmeair
Sent: Friday, March 08, 2002 10:15 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSFw: CSFw: mineral oil
  
  
- Original Message -  
From: Acmeair  
To: silver-list@eskimo.com  
Sent: Friday, March 08, 2002 9:03 PM
Subject: CSFw: mineral oil


  
Subject: mineral oil


i use johnson  johnson baby oil once in a while for dry skin, etc., it states 
that it is mineral oil and fragrances only.
  
is this stuff made of the bad stuff that clark, et al, say that we should not 
deal with? tyia.   jim

Re: CSRe:NEW GROUP

[Marlene Hanson]

I tried to go to the new group but was told by search Colloidal Silver is not 
there.  
 Marlene
- Original Message -
From: Rick
Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2002 11:54 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSRe:NEW GROUP
  
Why start another one?
rick
- Original Message -  
From: mikejon...@wmconnect.com  
To: silver-list@eskimo.com  
Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2002 8:36 AM
Subject: CSRe:NEW GROUP


For anyone interested I've started a new discussion group on Yahoo.  
Just go to www.yahoogroups.com and  enter Colloidal Silver in the search box, 
then click JOIN GROUP  

Re: CSms

[Marlene Hanson]

For zapping to kill certain pathogens.  More information at www.huldaclark.com  
Marlene  
  
- Original Message -
From: mikejon...@wmconnect.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2002 5:58 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSms
  
WHAT is a zapper???  

Re: CSKidneys...

[Marlene Hanson]

Hi Jason, Have you heard of Mannose? Visit www.Tahomaclinic.com Dr. Wright 
recommends and has an article at this site on Mannose for Urinary tract 
infections.  I would think that a diet or supplements high in antioxidants 
would perhaps slow the progress of this condition.  Alpha Lipoic Acid, Ester 
Vitamin C, Vitamin E, Vitamin D(I am taking 3000 mg daily new research points 
to this as being very necessary. I also take larger amounts of Vitamin A and 
Magnesium.  Site for some articles www.vrp.com  and 
http://www.lef.org/magazine/mag_all.html  I hope this helps your friend.  
Marlene  
  
- Original Message -
From: AVRA / Jason
Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2002 12:35 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSKidneys...
  
Greetings, All...

Does anyone on the list have experience supporting and restoring function to
damaged kidneys?

While the kidneys are still functioning, they do display signs of
enlargement, accompanied by kidney/bladder infections.  The damage currently
is being caused by a type of cystic cancer.  Dialysis has not be required.
Temporary edema of the lower legs displays, though infrequently.  Skin tone
is very slightly jaundice.  Blood pressure is marginally low.  Blood sugar
levels are normal.The condition was noticed when the individual was
eight years old.  Condition remained undiagnosed for twelve years.  Scarring
of the kidneys is significant.  Medical recommendation is two kidney
transplants before the kidneys reach a stage of failure.

The individual is 21 years old.  In my book, this is young enough for
possible strong intervention.  Currently, enough time remains where medical
procedures can be delayed ( especially since the individual has thusfar
refused any and all surgical procedures beyond a kidney tap ).

Does anyone have any experience with Alpha Omega lab's kidney/liver internal
cancer support protocol?

Thank You!

Jason
- Original Message -
From: itssu...@aol.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2002 12:00 AM
Subject: Re: CSFlesh Eating Bacteria


 A rather indepth discussion of this same subject at:


http://www.timebomb2000.com/vb/showthread.php?s=d39f1a3c09b91df8c30134a8e177
fb

 dbthreadid=20952

 suzy


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Re: CSChelation

[Marlene Hanson]

Hi Brinkley, Thanks for the Cider vinegar info. I want to know about the C's 
and Canadian I presume clinics. Cost, location and name of Doctors if you will 
please.
Also what kind of Chelation.  Thank you Marlene  
  
- Original Message -
From: brick...@aol.com
Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2002 12:36 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSChelation
  
Finished 10 IV Chelations for my fifth year.  Cholesterol is down 86 points
but Dr. noticed a high liver reading on my blood test, GOT?  He prescribed
Silymarin (Milk Thistle) 3 X per day for 30 days.  He also said to take Apple
Cider vinegar because of crystals saw in my blood test.  He said vinegar
would dissolve the crystals.  I tried one T in my 2 liter water bottle and
within a couple days my kidneys really opened up.  I had to get up 3 times
during the night when I never got up before.
I also got 7 porcelain crowns after insurance will cost me $35 each.  The
border is a good one hour wait coming back to the USA.
The 10 Chelations lowered the GOT reading but it was still 3 points above
their limit of 65.
Several people getting Chelations are now starting to make their own Cs as I
told everyone who would listen about the virtues of Cs.
Brickey


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Re: CSFlesh Eating Bacteria

[Marlene Hanson]

Hi List  
Some one mentioned oxygen for the flesh eating bacteria which I believe would 
work.  I think Ozone therapy via blood infusion or ozone application to the 
exposed area or ozone enema one or all of these would be beneficial. Of course 
Colloidal Silver as well.
Marlene
  
- Original Message -
From: Marshalee Hallett
Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2002 8:44 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSFlesh Eating Bacteria
  


 Hi,
 Does anyone know if CS will work against this horrible bacteria?  There
 are two new cases in Charleston SC this week.  Thanks, Peggy

I don`t know from personal experience, but CS should work, as it can kill
bacteria easily, as well as viruses.
Why don`t you tell the parents about it, so their children won`t have to
die?
Marshalee


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Re: CSelectro injection

[Marlene Hanson]

  
 Joe B. you may find a little saline solution applied with gel will improve the 
conductivity. If you try this let us know.  I use Dr. Hulda Clarks Zapper and 
it works better with just a mild saline solution on the wrist and the metalic 
bands must be kept moist to work. Marlene   
- Original Message -
From: Marshall Dudley
Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 2:20 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSelectro injection
  
You should moisten the surface under the electrodes.  The skin can have a
surprisingly high resistance when dry.

Marshall

Joe B. wrote:

 My plan is to use 99.99% silver wire probes, situated about 1/4 inch apart.
 A battery arrangement of 36 VDC should induce about 1000 microampere.  The
 positive probe should slightly erode ( a few micrometers ) causing migration
 through the skin of AG ions, embedding them in the target tissue.

 I think an application of less than a minute should do the trick.  ( I'm an
 electronics engineer by trade).

 No gel or topical coating should be necessary due to the relatively high
 potential of the electrodes.  I expect a slight tingling as the current
 passes through.

 I'll advise as to the results.

 Joe B.

 - Original Message -
 From: AVRA / Jason silverd...@hotmail.com
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 1:37 PM
 Subject: Re: CSelectro injection

  Joe:
 
  Using electrolysis with silver applied to tissues can increase the
  penetration of silver 4-8 times compared to simply applying silver to the
  same tissues.  ( see http://silverdata.20m.com/silveron.html )
 
  I am not certain the BEST way to achieve this, though I also am interested
  in experimentation.  Dr. Becker experimented with electrodes inserted
  directly into tissues with excellent results ( My Body Electric ).
 
  However, a good place to start just might be picking up the conductive gel
  that Klearsen sells just for this purpose.  I'm not certain I like the
 look
  of their own device, but the price of there gel is only $4.00 a tube.
  http://www.klearsen.com/forms/
 
  I would love to hear about any home-made conductivity gel that can be used
  for such purposes - I'm wondering if an aloe vera gel cannot be simply
 made.
 
  My idea ( although I really have only put a few minutes of thought into
 it )
  for a simple device is a bit different from Klearson's flat device.  I
  planned on simply converting a small plastic cap ( about two inches or so
 in
  diameter, or smaller for hard to treat spots ) to secure the electrodes in
  place, whereby the depth of the silver electrodes could be easily
  adjusted... A velcro adjustable strap could easily be fabricated for
  securing the cap to the surface of the skin, and the conductive gel can
  then easily be packed under the cap, and secured without making a mess.
  Then on simply uses whatever generation device one prefers.  Using a
 simple
  nine volt battery setup, one could even make a very simple portable device
  that could be worn during daily activities.
 
  Such ideas have crossed my mind when considering the treatment of skin
  necrosis and deep diabetic ulcerations/slow responding infections.
 
  Jason
 
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Joe B.
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 4:20 AM
  Subject: CSelectro injection
 
 
  I'm interested ( and am building apparatus for ) in information related to
  the electro-injection of silver using silver probes and a DC power source
 to
  treat infections of the skin.
 
  I'll be happy to report my results.
 
  Does anyone have information on this subject?
 
  Joe
 
 
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Re: CSCS

[Marlene Hanson]

Hi Dan, With just a little Levity.  THIS TO SHALL PASS.  I believe the initial 
die off may cause increased gas.  If the diet is good and the bowels are moving 
regularly (very important) She should have improvement soon.  I have eliminated 
 Grains and find that helped.  Marlene  
  
- Original Message -
From: Dan Williamson
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2002 3:28 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSCS
  
Being new to using CS I was wondering if anyone here could comment on 
intestinal gas. I started using CS about three weeks ago externally as well as 
internally and at 2-5 ppm approx. and have no complaints except for the gas 
situation. Is there any way that this can be controlled or is this a unique 
side effect ? My wife would greatly appreciate any help that you could provide. 
Thanks.

Re: CSCS: Cautionary Note/liver cysts

[Marlene Hanson]

Please Jules, I need information, which it sounds like you may know.  I have 
skin lumps, the doctors all say they are just lymphomas /sp/but they bother me 
and are spreading and growing.  I have been on the CS for two years to which 
seems to help with my immune system and MS but the Lumps are still growing.  I 
had them tested when I did a computerized allergy test. The technician said the 
one's on my arms were from one kind of virus and the one's on my abdomin were 
caused by a different kind of virus.  I have thought of getting CS shots into 
them but haven't. Do you know any information which would help? They are not 
painful but sometimes have a light itch.  Thanks Marlene
  
  
- Original Message -
From: wwen...@aol.com
Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2002 10:33 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSCS: Cautionary Note/liver cysts
  
Lynda,

Simple and congenital hepatic cysts are asymptomatic in most people, and
don't cause problems unless they enlarge.  Some arise from developmental
defects in the formation of the bile ducts.  Polycystic liver disease
(multiple cysts) usually also presents with cysts in the kidneys, but doesn't
cause problems unless the cysts enlarge in the porta hepatis, causing biliary
obstruction.
Splenic cysts are either parasitic (echinococcus) or nonparasitic in
origin.  Non- are usually traumatic in origin, or congenital.
From what I understand, CS would help with those of parasitic origin.  If
they are nonparasitic and don't cause you pain, you probably have few reasons
to worry about the incidental finding.

Jules


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CSLiving Water CS

[Marlene Hanson]

Hi Mike,
Your experiences sound very interesting.  I would like to know where and how to 
order the units you speak about.  Also how much do the units cost?  Water from 
my well seems to weaken me as well.  I am recovering from MS and do what ever I 
can to reduce stress and toxic overload it is working.  
Thanks Marlene  
  
- Original Message -
From: Mike Fuller
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 7:31 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSLiving Water  CS
  
Hi Kevin,

Firstly, no I won't summarise the principles, I'm not so clever as to be able 
to do justice to it as we don't have the same 'language' to share. We've been 
through all this in private communications from 3 or 4 months ago and I will 
reiterate what I have said in those postings: You need to at least read the 
book before we can commence a reasonable discourse. Without doing that I will 
be having to elaborate and educate on every little aspect, just so we can 
discuss it. That would be a long hard slog and I don't have that time to spare. 
Much better you do some of the work first, don't you think? It took me several 
years of study (admittedly intermittant) to get to my present understanding of 
water and some of that understanding would be quite difficult to express in 
writing, let alone to someone who doesn't share some of the same concepts.

As an example, imagine trying to discuss the intricacies of Rudolph Steiner's 
biodynamic system of agriculture. We know that it works brilliantly (being 
Australian, I'm sure you've eaten biodynamic produce, Kevin) and there are 
plenty of examples of the transformation in farms, in particular their soil, 
that indicates something amazing has occurred. The preparations that Steiner 
disclosed are unusual, to say the least (read 'Secrets of the Soil' by, I 
think, Thompkins and Bird for information about these). If we were to discuss 
these without at least attempting to come up to speed on Steiner's way of 
thinking, it would probably be rather unproductive. Same applies to Schauberger 
and water.

I can't remember if I've said these before but concerning change in water from 
using the water unit let me relate a couple of little stories. They may be 
anecdotal, but I don't have a problem with that.

At the time I installed my water unit (call it whatever you like) I had been 
very ill for a considerable period of time. My energy state was such that a 
shower would leave me horizontal for at least a couple of hours and compromised 
for much longer. I don't know the exact reason the shower would do that, 
whether it was the high level of trihalomethanes or that the water was 'dead' 
or some other reason, it didn't matter. After installing the unit, a shower 
actually left me feeling better than before - I was energised rather than 
enervated. That, to me, was amazing and signalled the start of an upward climb 
towards good health. I know this was purely subjective but when you're that ill 
and something works that well, who cares. It was the biggest single step I 
achieved in that ascent, and I tried a lot of things.

The second story is a little more objective, I suppose, although still only 
anecdotal. I had an unglazed, ceramic water container (Stefani) originally used 
for filtering of water. We tried, for some time, to use it both as a filter 
unit and a simple water container. The porous ceramic allowed partial 
evaporation to cool the water somewhat. Unfortunately the container would 
repeatedly become contaminated with mould and other 'nasties' and required 
regular cleaning with sodium metabisulphite, scrubbing, leaving in the sun for 
some time etc. No matter what we attempted, and we tried a lot, the container, 
and its contents, would become unusable due to the off taste of the water. We 
eventually gave up and used a different method.

After installing the unit in the shower, we needed somewhere to store the 
drinking water that we were getting from the shower. For whatever reason, call 
it intuition if you like, I decided to fill the ceramic container with water 
from the shower. Over the next three days the most putrid gunk emanated from 
the outside of the container, not so much in quantity but certainly in odour. 
After the three days I washed the container, refilled it with 'unit' water and 
we have used it for drinking ever since (several years). The water remains pure 
and very, very drinkable. The only maintenance we do to the container is wash 
the dust off the outside about every 2 months. So here we have a ceramic 
container that could not hold water, filtered or otherwise, without becoming 
contaminated in a short time. Put that same water through a water unit and it 
not only remains fresh and pure but cleans the container of previous 
contamination. And remains that way for years of use.

This is only two examples of many that I have encountered with the use of such 
a unit. Not real scientific but, to me, pretty persuasive. Instead of 
confronting these 

Re: CSCS Fulvic Acid

[Marlene Hanson]

Hi Ivan, Isn't Fulvic Acid part of apple cider vinegar? I am currently taking 
apple Vinegar for digestive and circulation problems.  Thank you Marlene  
  
- Original Message -
From: Ric Stoll
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 9:07 AM
To: *Silver-List* (E-mail)
Subject: RE: CSCS  Fulvic Acid
  
Ivan, do you have a source for the following opinion?  I have been
considering ingesting fulvic acid but sure wouldn't want to if it's
detrimental.

Thanks much.  Ric



-Original Message-
From: I Anderson [mailto:i...@win.co.nz]
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 2:53 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CSCS  Fulvic Acid


Yes Nancy, that is my opinion, and further, I would not personally
take any product that contained fulvic acid.

Ivan.


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CSWhat uses does Histamine have.

[Marlene Hanson]

any one with chemical background, I am using Histamine Diphosphate for MS and 
would like to know all the ways it is used in industry or agriculture.  Current 
supplies are drying up and need new suppliers. Also legal reason to order it.  
Thanks Marlene
  
- Original Message -
From: TJ Garland
Sent: Monday, January 28, 2002 9:20 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSDMSO
  

If you are in the US, any good farm supply store.

From: Ode Coyote coy...@alltel.net
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSDMSO
Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 08:21:04 -0500


   Try DMSO.com

Ken

At 08:34 AM 1/28/02 +0600, you wrote:
 CS Enthusiasts,
 Can someone please tell me which is a good brand of DMSO and the
 source?  For example, could this be found around Atlanta or should it be
 mail ordered?
 Thanks,
 Reid
 
 
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Re: CSNewbe with news and questions.

[Marlene Hanson]

Hi Marshalee, Thank you for the quick come back.  LDN is Low Dose Naltrexone.  
Naltrexone was first approved for Heroine adict's treatment but never mind that 
used in small doses 3 mg to 4.5 mg taken at night it allows an immune system 
which is reved up and out of control to settle down enough to relax and regain 
control.  You can read more about it at www.lowdosenaltrexone.com or it may be 
.org try them both many of us on the Histamine and Alternative treatment board 
are using it with success. http://disc.server.com/Indices/148295.html Please 
visit so much good information and great supportive people for MS and other 
immune problems.
Marlene
  
- Original Message -
From: Marshalee Hallett
Sent: Friday, January 18, 2002 8:16 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSNewbe with news and questions.
  


Hello All,  
New at this list business and hope I am doing it right. I seem to get 
duplicates of many messages, is this necessary evil? I will say that I have 
problems following the scientific side of the conversation,PPM, generators, 
Neon ect, but enjoy what I do get from it.  I have been making my clear to pale 
yellow CS for over a year.  I use the three   9 volt battery in quart of 
boiling hot water with 2 drops of saline solution brew for 45 minutes.  Is this 
concidered to be ionic or colloidal?  I like the way it works for me.  If I 
wake with a sore throat I take 4 oz and swish and gargle and swallow with in 15 
min the sore throat is gone.  I usually take at least 8 oz a day.  I am not 
blue or gray, but find my teeth do look a little gray at times.  I am trying to 
kill any virus, bacteria or spirochetes  which may be causing Multiple 
Sclerosis.  I am doing very well now and have no noticeable symptoms. I 
currently use supplements, diet, colloidal Silver, Histamines and LDN.   
Thank you for the information Marlene
  
Dear Marlene, Hi! I`m Marshalee, been on this list for years...CS cured me of 
Lyme disease. (Yay!)
You don`t need the saline. That just makes silver cloride, which isn`t good. 
Nor do you need to heat the water, at least not so hot.
I use room temp water, 2 cups, let it run for 1 hour. I don`t stir or anything 
else. (I`m lazy...)
My CS works just fine!
What is LDN??
Love,
Marshalee

CSNewbe with news and questions.

[Marlene Hanson]

Hello All,  
New at this list business and hope I am doing it right. I seem to get 
duplicates of many messages, is this necessary evil? I will say that I have 
problems following the scientific side of the conversation,PPM, generators, 
Neon ect, but enjoy what I do get from it.  I have been making my clear to pale 
yellow CS for over a year.  I use the three   9 volt battery in quart of 
boiling hot water with 2 drops of saline solution brew for 45 minutes.  Is this 
concidered to be ionic or colloidal?  I like the way it works for me.  If I 
wake with a sore throat I take 4 oz and swish and gargle and swallow with in 15 
min the sore throat is gone.  I usually take at least 8 oz a day.  I am not 
blue or gray, but find my teeth do look a little gray at times.  I am trying to 
kill any virus, bacteria or spirochetes  which may be causing Multiple 
Sclerosis.  I am doing very well now and have no noticeable symptoms. I 
currently use supplements, diet, colloidal Silver, Histamines and LDN.   
Thank you for the information Marlene
- Original Message -
From: Connie
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 4:01 PM
To: silver- list
Subject: CSquestions: stir vs. bubble
  

I have the SG6-very happy with my generator.
I have done some experiementing with the way I make my CS.

I would like to compare my brew with stirring vs. bubbling and please
comments as too the differences.

I use a 64 fl. oz. coffee creamer container to make my CS.

Some days...using the stirit seems to take longer. Not observant enough
to say why one day is different vs. another.

Here are the comparisons of the last two batches made:

--First brew:
Stirred batch.
Seeded, ppm per Hanna PWT 4ppm.
I cleaned electrodes (with heavy build up) 3 x's during the brew.

After 36 hours of generation...the ppm per Hanna was about 18ppm. Indicator
light, indicating that the brew had not reached 20pppm (as dialed) was still
on.
My stirred CS ALWAYS reads a lower number the next day, when retested. Often
I will turn the generator back on, let it run again until the indicator
light goes off.

Allowed the brew to sit overnight. A lot of precipitate in the container.
Did not bother to retest the ppm. ( I expected it to be lower than what
measured the night before)
I gave up on that brew...used it in the bathwater

--Second brew:
Bubbled batch-stirrer removed.

Seeded DW ppm at start 4ppm.
10 hrs. later: indicator light off.
I did not clean the electrodes at all.
I shut down the generator.
Did not test the ppm.
left til this AM, testing ppm with Hanna, the ppm is 26ppm. (set at 20ppm)

Some, but little precipitateelectrodes with little build up.


My observed main points

-bubbled CS consistently more stable after brew sits (ppm's do not fall from
one day to the next)
-bubbled CS consistently has less build up on the electrodes, less
precipitate in the container.
-bubbled CS consistently able to achieve higher ppm (per Hanna)
-occassionally will get pale yellow CS with stir, never with bubbled
-consistently stirred CS will turn ashen with even minimal exposure to
light, bubbled does not seem to (I have not specifically ''tested'' this.)
-brew time for higher ppm's consistenly quicker with bubbler. (this case 36
hours for less than 20ppm stirred vs. 10 hrs. for 26ppm bubbled)

I have no clue why such a difference. I know Ole Bob you do not like the
bubbler, I believe also Trem that you prefer stir

Could someone explain some of these differences for me...in terms I could
understand
and if bubbling is not good, whywhen it appears to make a better
product?

TIA
Connie






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