Re: CS Iodine and Selenium,gelatin
Diane, I much prefer food sources myself, but most soils are depleted of selenium these days and if so the nuts will not have much either. zoe From: Dianne France dianne_fra...@hotmail.com To: silver-list silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, 6 November 2012, 17:28 Subject: RE: CS Iodine and Selenium,gelatin Instead of buying Selenium I just eat a couple raw Brazil nuts or eat mustard greens. Both are the highest natural form. I try using gelatin in cooking broths but getting it down otherwise was difficult. I do take iodine but still have nail problems. From: har...@telus.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CS Iodine and Selenium,gelatin Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2012 09:39:18 -0800 The info I got re iodine was that it should be taken with Selenium and Selenomethionine form was the best for absorption.I get it from iHerb. Tried Knox gelatin first, in water,ghastly stuff;was put onto “Great Lakes Gelatin” O Bloom gelatin.Great stuff.Go for good old Googling .Have to order it by ‘phone tho.I get it in bulk,10 lbs at a time. Put it in my coffee ,2 tspns per cup,1 tspn in tea per cup, never know it’s there,add it to my soups.Helped get my walking cane out of my hand a few years ago,don’t need it now !! Best to all. Harold
Re: CSToenail Fungus
Thank you Marshall, Years ago I used WD-40 to ease my arthritis pain, it worked really well,but I never understood why. Of course in those days DMSO meant nothing to me either. You have helped solve a mysterious puzzle for me. zoe From: Marshall mdud...@king-cart.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, 1 November 2012, 10:22 Subject: Re: CSToenail Fungus Thinking out loud here. WD40 is made up of a lubricant oil plus a carrier for that oil for penetration. The oil itself is pretty thin but still not sufficient since they add a carrier which is DMSO. Seems DMSO would be the best choice to me. Marshall On 10/31/2012 9:18 PM, mgperrault wrote: On 10/31/2012 5:55 PM, Melly Bag wrote: Tea Tree Oil should be good for fungus IF you use a carrier oil. From the post i read the best carrier oil to use is Jojoba Oil because it is very thin and can get through the nails. I did use it on my very brittle cracked nails on my hands and it seems to help, the problem is i kept forgetting to apply regularly. Melly Are you sure tee tree isnt itself a carrier oil? Why is jojoba better exactly? Is clove oil a carrier oil? how about oregano? Is Emu really the ultimate carrier oil? If carrying is what we want, why not DMSO? DMSO has a smell that is not attractivedoes this mean the body has an aversion to it? A drop on my table melted the finish right off. Seems pretty potent. How about peanut and castor oils? (Cayce and others) How do we know we are saying something truthful, or just repeating something somebody else said who doesnt know either? Anyway, I read tee tree is a low viscosity carrier oil that slips between the skin cells This and the DIY LET lists sure have a lot of posts! Everyone thanks everyone and then thanks them for thanking them, and then a dont mention it added on before another your so dearits difficult to keep up with it. Your welcome. no, please,.dont mention it. No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1427 / Virus Database: 2441/5365 - Release Date: 10/31/12
Re: CSNew and want to make my own CS
Sandy, You don't need both bases. The magnetic stirrer is the best one. I've had both, and still using the magnetic one. If you are going to use wide mouth jars, he also sells a little ring that fits over the top or if you have the right tools you can cut a hole in a CD/DVD that will do the same thing. If you can afford it the silvergen gives you other options you don't get with the puppy. I keep hoping. LOL zoe From: JERRY PRENDERGAST jsmpren...@sbcglobal.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, 28 October 2012, 20:13 Subject: CSNew and want to make my own CS Hi, I am new and want to make my own CS. When I went to silver puppy.com web site to purchase a machine I got very confused. The site does not mention silver puppy. It is Coyote Zenterprizes. Is that the correct site to order from? IS it the standard automatic CS generator that I should purchase. Should I purchase a stirrer also? Any other suggestion on how to start would be appreciated. Thank you for your help. Sandy
Re: CSGratitude from the 'marathon' woman
Happy Birthday Lena, One thing for sure, this one won't be soon forgotten. Blessings for you and family on this storm. Prayers coming your way. zoe From: Lena Guyot drumr...@stny.rr.com To: lyme_r...@yahoogroups.com; silver-list silver-list@eskimo.com; lymestrateg...@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, 27 October 2012, 19:50 Subject: CSGratitude from the 'marathon' woman All My Dears, I'm so touched, and heartened by your outpouring of so much information and caring! Shingles on top of GB is really the Worst! Today was my birthday and I've experienced the full spectrum life can offer, from the feeling of being so loved and nurtured, to the feeling that a rat was gnawing on the flesh of my back (it was either tap my writing muse to figure out a true description if the feeling in the middle of the night, or go quite mad). If this doesn't make me a philosopher, nothing will! =) I've cut and pasted every post you all have sent, and printed it all out so I can read it at leisure lying down (sitting is pretty awful at the moment). We rounded up a large percentage of the wonderful things mentioned and are battening down the hatches now, anticipating hurricane Sandy. We may lose power and WiFi and hope this storm will spare the many folk in its path from true harm. I hope in a couple days I'll feel well enough to thank each person more personally, as you have made such a difference in this day and in my heart. Love, and be well, my friends, Léna
Re: CSpossibility of shingles!
What or which herb(s)? zoe From: Tel Tofflemire telt...@yahoo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, 26 October 2012, 20:10 Subject: Re: CSpossibility of shingles! If the Booze does not work, I have some Herbal tea I make that works very well, I make it fresh with each use. I have used it with many for over 20 years for shingles. Tel Tofflemire From: Lena Guyot drumr...@stny.rr.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, October 26, 2012 2:57 PM Subject: Re: CSpossibility of shingles! Hi Craig, This is very helpful! I just bought a bottle of vodka the other day for making tinctures, so will try this. I take Boron regularly and put Borax in my laundry, so I may tinker with a mix of vodka, borax, and CS and see what happens. I miss Obie. Wonder where he's at. Thanks for keeping such good archives. Really appreciate all the support in this suffering. Be well, Léna On Oct 26, 2012, at 4:41 PM, Craig Chamberlin wrote: Hi Lena, About ten years ago I got this suggestion from Obie (you still around Obie?) and it has worked for a number of people with whom I have shared it. I use a large spray bottle, pour Everclear (180+ proof alcohol) into it, for shingles, to about 5% and fill the bottle with water shake and spray. This will kill the bacteria completely and it won't take two or three weeks. Use a dilute solution and spray more often because they are dominating such a large area of her skin that it will be painful if it's too strong. Any other skin or mouth, throat problem, I use the solution at 10%. It's teriffic, works every time. Also, if she thinks external bacteria is a problem, suggest Borax as a bodywash and in the washine machine. They can't feed on us with Borax. I've used it for years; never had any further problems. The best to her, Obie. The same ratio could be made by using vodka (which is usually 40 proof). I can't remember the formula to calculate how much water to add to this to get the same 5% that Obie is referring to...I am certain Marshall does. I know that this knocks the pain down almost immediately...and I know after the application of alcohol, the area was wiped/dabbed with CS. Maybe this will help. FWIW, Craig Lena Guyot wrote: Hi Zoe, I've been applying Brooks mix to the patches which calms them briefly. Between that and the GB issues, I feel like I'm in one of Dante's circles of hell. I'm drinking CS as well and taking 3g of L-lysine. Already on 15g of C a day along with 15g of Himalayan salt. I'm Rifing the herpes Zoster frequencies, in hope that they can reduce this. My husband is understandably nervous about my misery and brings up the 'D' word ( as in doctor), but I don't want black box pharma, not with Lyme disease on board. He's presently off to the nat. food store and pharmacy for some topical cremes that are supposed to help. How has your battle been? I've only been fighting this a week and can't imagine how you've hung on. What other tricks have you used. Are you still sane? I have a very high pain threshold, but this is something else. Thanks and be well, Léna
Re: CSpossibility of shingles!
LOL I just asked the same question. Lena, mine are almost gone now, as long as I remember to take the Lysine 3X daily they behave themselves. Lots of the other things I am continuing for other reasons. C-B and Niacin. I did 2 things to keep my sanity, #1 sleep a LOT #2 when awake I played games on Facebook. kept my mind off it. zoe From: Lena Guyot drumr...@stny.rr.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, 26 October 2012, 20:41 Subject: Re: CSpossibility of shingles! OK Tel, I'll bite. What herbal concoction/recipe can you share? I'm a desperate woman! =) Be well, my friend, Léna On Oct 26, 2012, at 8:10 PM, Tel Tofflemire wrote: If the Booze does not work, I have some Herbal tea I make that works very well, I make it fresh with each use. I have used it with many for over 20 years for shingles. Tel Tofflemire From: Lena Guyot drumr...@stny.rr.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, October 26, 2012 2:57 PM Subject: Re: CSpossibility of shingles! Hi Craig, This is very helpful! I just bought a bottle of vodka the other day for making tinctures, so will try this. I take Boron regularly and put Borax in my laundry, so I may tinker with a mix of vodka, borax, and CS and see what happens. I miss Obie. Wonder where he's at. Thanks for keeping such good archives. Really appreciate all the support in this suffering. Be well, Léna On Oct 26, 2012, at 4:41 PM, Craig Chamberlin wrote: Hi Lena, About ten years ago I got this suggestion from Obie (you still around Obie?) and it has worked for a number of people with whom I have shared it. I use a large spray bottle, pour Everclear (180+ proof alcohol) into it, for shingles, to about 5% and fill the bottle with water shake and spray. This will kill the bacteria completely and it won't take two or three weeks. Use a dilute solution and spray more often because they are dominating such a large area of her skin that it will be painful if it's too strong. Any other skin or mouth, throat problem, I use the solution at 10%. It's teriffic, works every time. Also, if she thinks external bacteria is a problem, suggest Borax as a bodywash and in the washine machine. They can't feed on us with Borax. I've used it for years; never had any further problems. The best to her, Obie. The same ratio could be made by using vodka (which is usually 40 proof). I can't remember the formula to calculate how much water to add to this to get the same 5% that Obie is referring to...I am certain Marshall does. I know that this knocks the pain down almost immediately...and I know after the application of alcohol, the area was wiped/dabbed with CS. Maybe this will help. FWIW, Craig Lena Guyot wrote: Hi Zoe, I've been applying Brooks mix to the patches which calms them briefly. Between that and the GB issues, I feel like I'm in one of Dante's circles of hell. I'm drinking CS as well and taking 3g of L-lysine. Already on 15g of C a day along with 15g of Himalayan salt. I'm Rifing the herpes Zoster frequencies, in hope that they can reduce this. My husband is understandably nervous about my misery and brings up the 'D' word ( as in doctor), but I don't want black box pharma, not with Lyme disease on board. He's presently off to the nat. food store and pharmacy for some topical cremes that are supposed to help. How has your battle been? I've only been fighting this a week and can't imagine how you've hung on. What other tricks have you used. Are you still sane? I have a very high pain threshold, but this is something else. Thanks and be well, Léna
Re: CSpossibility of shingles!
Lena, I've been battling shingles since January this year. CS is now being used effectively , someone gave me a recipe for Brooks Mix which is essentially, CS,DMSO and glycerine. s I substituted Coconut oil for the glycerine and it works OK, just have to shake it up since oil and water ( you know the drill). Later Brooke spoke up and said he was now using Aloe gell instead of the glycerine and it was much more effective. Also LYSINE 3 grams daily. I was put on L-lysine initially but not enough. B vitamins especially B-12 and lots of Vitamin C. Mine have calmed down considerably but I still get a hefty reminder when its time to take more Lysine. The first two months of this stuff was almost unbearable, what with the pain and the itching. Ice packs 24/7 helped keep things bearable, eventually I didn't need the ice any more but its very slow going. Shingles are much nastier than anyone can imagine unless they have experienced them. My Doc said I had the worst case he had ever seen, so I guess I'm lucky that they have improved this much. The scars from the lesions are still clearly visible. Then I tried Chapparel tincture both applied topically and taken internally. It does seem to help but tastes and smells pretty nasty. zoe From: Lena Guyot drumr...@stny.rr.com To: silver-list silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, 23 October 2012, 23:34 Subject: CSpossibility of shingles! Hi Everyone, Well, in the midst of some upper back-pain that I suspected was referred pain from GB issues, my psoriasis (over the same area) was also getting painful: extra itchy and hard to ignore. No blisters to indicate shingles, but for 5 days, it's been uncomfortable and confusing. I sponged the area down tonight with concentrated, topical CS I make and keep in an urn in the bathroom and things feel somewhat better. Hope this is turning the corner as it's been a rough few days so far. Does anyone have any experience with CS for either GB issues or shingles? Tonight, I also used CS and MSM under the tongue to get it throughout my system more efficiently. I'm also drinking a couple oz. of my regular CS. Being a Lymie, I really don't want to go to the allopathic folks at the local hosp., as their remedies for both issues have side effects contra-indicated for Lyme. BTW, my CS is generated with a Silver Puppy. For topical use, I put it on manual and run it longer, but for ingestion, I only use the auto setting. Thanks for any advice you can give. Be well, Léna
Re: CSBeck blood purifier
Neville, I've had some jars stored for a very long time and that is correct, no sediment noticeable to the naked eye anyway. The one exception is when I was using plastic water jugs to store the extra CS- those would have a few (very few) black specks on the bottom. Never noticed this in the glass. zoe From: Neville Munn one.red...@hotmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, 11 October 2012, 22:08 Subject: RE: CSBeck blood purifier Decant...Pouring off liquid leaving some liquid behind which may have observable settlement or sediment in the bottom of the storage vessel. To all who replied...So, it would appear there is never any settlement observable in the bottom of the containers after being in storage for a while - interesting. Thanks for that everyone. N. Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 23:31:15 +0100 From: mtnwalke...@yahoo.co.uk Subject: Re: CSBeck blood purifier To: silver-list@eskimo.com What do you mean by decant? I make it in quart canning jars and pour out what I need , and cap what is left. zoe From: Neville Munn one.red...@hotmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, 11 October 2012, 17:59 Subject: RE: CSBeck blood purifier Dee, MA and Zoe, does anyone decant or filter at any time...Yes/No? N. Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 17:14:02 +0100 From: mtnwalke...@yahoo.co.uk Subject: Re: CSBeck blood purifier To: silver-list@eskimo.com Same here, Ive used a silver puppy for years and its always been nice and clear. On occasion I do have to clean the silver rods, but nothing serious. zoe From: MaryAnn Helland marmar...@bellsouth.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, 11 October 2012, 10:05 Subject: Re: CSBeck blood purifier Ditto here. My unit is a Colloid Master, which reverses polarity on a set schedule. My EIS is always crystal clear, with no residues, and minimal discoloration of the electrodes. MA From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thu, October 11, 2012 5:39:43 AM Subject: Re: CSBeck blood purifier I cannot see this. My Puppy has reverse polarity and I don’t get any dark oxides forming—quite the reverse in fact. dee
Re: CSBeck blood purifier
Same here, Ive used a silver puppy for years and its always been nice and clear. On occasion I do have to clean the silver rods, but nothing serious. zoe From: MaryAnn Helland marmar...@bellsouth.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, 11 October 2012, 10:05 Subject: Re: CSBeck blood purifier Ditto here. My unit is a Colloid Master, which reverses polarity on a set schedule. My EIS is always crystal clear, with no residues, and minimal discoloration of the electrodes. MA From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thu, October 11, 2012 5:39:43 AM Subject: Re: CSBeck blood purifier I cannot see this. My Puppy has reverse polarity and I don’t get any dark oxides forming—quite the reverse in fact. dee From: D B mothman...@gmail.com Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 23:31:17 +0100 To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSBeck blood purifier Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Resent-Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 15:31:18 -0700 The idea of reversing polarity during the manufacturing process is a very bad idea and obvious design flaw. Far better to select one electrode, and make a mark at the top with a pair of pliers, then simply connect it to positive one run , then negative the next, keeping note of dates you use the marked electrode with neg or pos current. The reason for this is that you will accrue a large amount of dark oxides which should not be disturbed during manufacturing. If they get into the sol (colloid) then the ions coming of the electrode will then stick to those chunks and your sol will bottom out much quicker, the particles also being less therapeutically beneficial as they will be getting so large to the point where they will just not be able to pass inside cell tissue and kill pathogens, also creating more possibility of argyria skin discolouration, though that can be lessened or even removed with selenium supplementation to chelate it from the skin I read. The regular changing of polarity will just push a load of muck into the distilled water and act as a magnet for the smaller groups of ions to stick to. With best wishes, Dave
Re: CSDMSO Question
Brooks wrote recently that they are now using aloe gel instead of the glycerine. zoe From: Lena Guyot drumr...@stny.rr.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, 11 October 2012, 10:55 Subject: Re: CSDMSO Question Hi Paul, The only hitch with DMSO is that it can be very drying to the skin. Mixed 50/50 with Aloe, it's just as effective and the skin will be happier. There's also a recipe called Brooks mix: 75%CS, 15%glycerin, and 10%DMSO. Great for wounds and aches. I put mine in a 1oz roll0on I got on eBay. Also, tart cherry juice is good for gout, but if it gets pricey or hard to find for you, there are tart cherry capsules (I take one every night) that are pretty effective, too. If you suspect gout, try to avoid foods with purines, like sardines, shrimp, smoked oysters, etc. That's what brought mine on. Be well, Léna On Oct 11, 2012, at 7:53 AM, Paul Steel wrote: I have some lower back pain and might have a little gout as well. Was think about spraying some 99.9% pure DMSO on both areas and then I saw this 70% DMSO Gel http://www.ihealthtree.com/dmso-gel-70-30-unfrag-plastic-4oz.html Anyone know if this would be as effected and safe to use instead?? Thanks All Paul Steel h 508.520.6905 c 508.922.0519 The harder you work the luckier you get!
Re: CSBeck blood purifier
What do you mean by decant? I make it in quart canning jars and pour out what I need , and cap what is left. zoe From: Neville Munn one.red...@hotmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, 11 October 2012, 17:59 Subject: RE: CSBeck blood purifier Dee, MA and Zoe, does anyone decant or filter at any time...Yes/No? N. Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 17:14:02 +0100 From: mtnwalke...@yahoo.co.uk Subject: Re: CSBeck blood purifier To: silver-list@eskimo.com Same here, Ive used a silver puppy for years and its always been nice and clear. On occasion I do have to clean the silver rods, but nothing serious. zoe From: MaryAnn Helland marmar...@bellsouth.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, 11 October 2012, 10:05 Subject: Re: CSBeck blood purifier Ditto here. My unit is a Colloid Master, which reverses polarity on a set schedule. My EIS is always crystal clear, with no residues, and minimal discoloration of the electrodes. MA From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thu, October 11, 2012 5:39:43 AM Subject: Re: CSBeck blood purifier I cannot see this. My Puppy has reverse polarity and I don’t get any dark oxides forming—quite the reverse in fact. dee
Re: Cayenne / Aches pain was // Re: CSProstatitis
Cayenne pills are not good. You have to get the taste in your mouth to trigger the stomach secretions that protect the stomach lining. Try using even less and work his way up. The capsaicin in the cayenne is the pain killer and it really works. Keep diluting until you find a level that he can tolerate. It is an acquired taste so after time you will be able to give him even more. zoe From: Jane MacRoss highfie...@internode.on.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, 9 October 2012, 16:41 Subject: Re: Cayenne / Aches pain was // Re: CSProstatitis I have to make it so DH will drink it though - I can't even get pepper into him - and to swallow a cyenne tab is bad enough! He hates hot stuff! I'll drink it for him - I wonder if ginger would do instead? - Original Message - From: Zoe W To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2012 12:52 AM Subject: Re: Aches pain was // Re: CSProstatitis If you add some cayenne to that mix, you will get even more amazing results. In less than 3 weeks, heel spurs, bone spur on wrist were totally gone and have not come back in years. Also arthritis pain miraculously disappeared as well. zoe From: MaryAnn Helland marmar...@bellsouth.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, 9 October 2012, 8:52 Subject: Re: Aches pain was // Re: CSProstatitis That's interesting Jane. I was recently made aware of another, similar treatment for arthritic pain: one tablespoon of ACV (with the mother) and one tablespoon of raw honey, mixed in hot water and taken just before bedtime. Actually, it was brought to my attention for acid indigestion and reflux problems (which I have), but is supposed to help with arthritic pain too. Gotta say -- it works for the acid indigestion problem!! MA From: Jane MacRoss highfie...@internode.on.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Mon, October 8, 2012 8:44:26 PM Subject: Aches pain was // Re: CSProstatitis But on the ayurveda group Mridula was recommending 1/4 tsp cinnamon with 1 tablesp of honey in hot water before food in the mornings we just started that this morning - will let you know how it goes. According to Mridula people were having miraculous results with it. This is for aches pains of, I gather, arthritic origin. Jane -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2221 / Virus Database: 2441/5317 - Release Date: 10/08/12
Re: CSnebulized silver and black tongue
David, This is interesting. I don't have lung cancer but chronic bronchitis and have been nebulizing off and on for years with EIS daily when its active and never had a black tongue. This year I seem to have missed the season for it, so perhaps its done its job for good. zoe From: David AuBuchon aubuchon.da...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, 2 September 2012, 16:16 Subject: CSnebulized silver and black tongue Hi All, FYI, I need to report on a negative result from nebulized EIS. A person nebulized it for lung cancer. He was alternating days with H2O2. He stopped it after his tongue reportedly turned black. His lung tumor also remained unchanged in size. This unfortunately also weights against the few anecdotes we have of lung cancer benefitting from nebulized silver. David
Re: CSchapparel/Chaparral ADDENDUM
Thank you Nenah, I lived in the southwest for a many years and used chapparal that I picked and tinctured myself with NO deleterious side effects, No one I ever knew had any either. Just another smoke screen to scare us away from natural medicines and get us to use the pharmaceuticals. zoe From: Nenah Sylver nenahsyl...@cox.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, 29 August 2012, 12:54 Subject: RE: CSchapparel/Chaparral ADDENDUM Shegoi is the brand. I want to add that the FDA feared, and warned against, long-term use of chaparral as the agency thought that it MIGHT harm the liver. Hence, the Shegoi brand product was developed to remove the POTENTIALLY liver-toxic compounds while retaining the phytochemicals that still have anti-viral, anti-fungal and (to an extent) anti-bacterial properties. There has been no conclusive proof that chaparral even has long-term deleterious effects. Natives in the American Southwest, where chaparral grows, have been using it for centuries. Nenah Nenah Sylver, PhD author, the NEW Rife Handbook (2011) Holistic Handbook of Sauna Therapy(2004) VoiceBio and Biomodulator certification www.nenahsylver.com; www.rifehandbook.com From:Jessie [mailto:jessi...@optonline.net] Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2012 9:19 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSchapparel Neenah, can you give us the name of the chaparral that does not harm the liver again? Thanks, Jess
Re: CSOT - oil of oregano
well do keep us posted. I have just recently started the chapparal , it was said to eradicate the virus entirely if taken every day for a month. We shall see. zoe From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, 24 August 2012, 5:34 Subject: Re: CSOT - oil of oregano Re: CSOT - oil of oregano I have also used CS and lysine Zoe, and I do use iodine but not Lugols but a nascent one. I have had success with this too, but it always comes back so I thought I would try the oil of oregano just to see if this works. dee From: Zoe W mtnwalke...@yahoo.co.uk Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2012 20:09:40 +0100 (BST) To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSOT - oil of oregano Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Resent-Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2012 12:09:41 -0700 This sounds quite similar to what is going on with me, the extreme fatigue and sharp pains, yep I got the shingles this past January. I am treating mine with Lugol's , B-vitamins, Lysine and Chaparral and CS, excellent results so far. zoe
Re: CSOT - oil of oregano
This sounds quite similar to what is going on with me, the extreme fatigue and sharp pains, yep I got the shingles this past January. I am treating mine with Lugol's , B-vitamins, Lysine and Chaparral and CS, excellent results so far. zoe From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, 23 August 2012, 13:21 Subject: Re: CSOT - oil of oregano Re: CSOT - oil of oregano Thank you for the info Nancy, but I have decided to go with the Oreganol as I am not knowledgeable in essential oils, and the Oreganol is already diluted with oil. I think I have Chronic Fatigue Syndrome due to the herpes zoster virus and thought I would try this for it, so would need to ingest it. I also thought I would try it for my dog who has anal fistulas which are infected. I know I would have to put the drops in a capsule for him but can put it under the tongue for me. I never have lesions with shingles but just get horrible sharp ‘nerve’ pains which were diagnosed many years ago, as shingles. Thanks again for taking the trouble you have to reply. dee From: wench57 wenc...@roadrunner.com Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 14:37:07 -0400 To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSOT - oil of oregano Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Resent-Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 11:37:17 -0700 Dee if you swallow it because of the concentrated amount it will burn your throat. Without going to my huge book I am trying to go on memory. I will look for you later this afternoon as you may be able to use 1-2 drops in a glass of water. some other oils can be used that way. Depending on what properties you are using it for will depend on where you use it on your body. I dilute with jojoba oil or almond oil, if you don't have that then olive oil is best. If you will be using it for a specific area on your body for inflammation then I suggest using the reflexology points on the bottom of your foot or diluted on the skin in the area where you want it concentrated. I will look into my book later today as to more information. Nancy
Re: CSOT - oil of oregano
who said anything about complexion issues? From: Neville Munn one.red...@hotmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, 23 August 2012, 19:05 Subject: RE: CSOT - oil of oregano Well, I guess I'm gunna stir up another hornets nest here, but the following is not directed at you Zoe. Anyone who states HOME MADE LVDC produced silver solutions has contributed to some issue with complexion cannot possibly prove that, and the list of other substances taken in conjunction with EIS listed below is an example of what I have always tried to point out. I want to make it quite clear here, I am *NOT* saying you will get any issues either, I just use your post to highlight the fact that I don't believe anyone can state categorically EIS caused a complexion issue when 'who knows what' other substances are consumed with it. What I will say though is, if your shingles thing is sorted out, there is no way you could suggest EIS fixed it? That would be pretty hard to prove considering the additional stuff involved. I write this in the nicest possible way, and am only pointing out an observation of many people who imbibe in EIS in combination with other 'stuff?', so don't misunderstand and get the knickers in a twist and think I am having a go, cos I am most definitely *NOT*, so read this posting with due care and attention g. N. Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2012 20:09:40 +0100 From: mtnwalke...@yahoo.co.uk Subject: Re: CSOT - oil of oregano To: silver-list@eskimo.com This sounds quite similar to what is going on with me, the extreme fatigue and sharp pains, yep I got the shingles this past January. I am treating mine with Lugol's , B-vitamins, Lysine and Chaparral and CS, excellent results so far. zoe From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, 23 August 2012, 13:21 Subject: Re: CSOT - oil of oregano Re: CSOT - oil of oregano Thank you for the info Nancy, but I have decided to go with the Oreganol as I am not knowledgeable in essential oils, and the Oreganol is already diluted with oil. I think I have Chronic Fatigue Syndrome due to the herpes zoster virus and thought I would try this for it, so would need to ingest it. I also thought I would try it for my dog who has anal fistulas which are infected. I know I would have to put the drops in a capsule for him but can put it under the tongue for me. I never have lesions with shingles but just get horrible sharp ‘nerve’ pains which were diagnosed many years ago, as shingles. Thanks again for taking the trouble you have to reply. dee From: wench57 wenc...@roadrunner.com Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 14:37:07 -0400 To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSOT - oil of oregano Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Resent-Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 11:37:17 -0700 Dee if you swallow it because of the concentrated amount it will burn your throat. Without going to my huge book I am trying to go on memory. I will look for you later this afternoon as you may be able to use 1-2 drops in a glass of water. some other oils can be used that way. Depending on what properties you are using it for will depend on where you use it on your body. I dilute with jojoba oil or almond oil, if you don't have that then olive oil is best. If you will be using it for a specific area on your body for inflammation then I suggest using the reflexology points on the bottom of your foot or diluted on the skin in the area where you want it concentrated. I will look into my book later today as to more information. Nancy
Re: CSShingles
Thanks for this info, just happen to have a pint of chapparal tincture I made myself and forgot about. zoe Taking the herb Chapparal orally for a month is said to eliminate Herpes from your body entirely. Janet R. Perry, MA Wellness Consultant Austin, Texas 512.585.1320
Re: CSNew to List in Pittsburgh, PA
Laurie, I am currently battling a rather severe case of shingles, go thru our archives during the last two weeks and you will find the conversations concerning such. I might add that there is something called a shingles vaccine- its expensive, most insurances won't cover it, but had I learned about it in time I would have given it a try. My grandmother had shingles when I was younger, she and I both had chickenpox as children. In fact everyone I know of who has or had the shingles ALSO had chickenpox as children. The same virus also causes cold sores. I was taking L-argenine prior to my outbreak and now suspect that may be what triggered it. Melly mentioned that argenine in our foods can trigger herpes. CS is so vitally important for just about anything concerning our health, I strongly recommend you get one of the generators. I personally have the Silver Puppy and just love it. I chose it mostly because it was less expensive. After several years of use I have never been sorry. Some day when Im rich and famous I would like to have the one that makes a gallon at a time. For now I am happy with my quart. Once upon a time I bought one bottle of CS and it cost 20$ for a 2 oz bottle, thats when I started researching generators. best of luck to you and heres hoping you NEVER get the shingles. zoe From: Laurie Weber lad0...@yahoo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, 10 August 2012, 10:33 Subject: CSNew to List in Pittsburgh, PA Hi All, I have bough colloidal silver on occasion I am interested in learning about all the benefits of using it. I hope to one day make my own but for now, can anyone recommend a good sourse to purchase it? I do use it internal and external. Actually, my dog uses it more than I do. I would love to hear about results of using it on pets. My dog is elderly (13) and has had arthritis since he was 2. He's a big guy at 85 lbs. He may be having some neurologic issues now and has lost muscle mass and gotten weaker in the back end. I use a boatload of supplements on him and he is treated holistically except for a couple of minor pain relievers that I may need to bump up to something stronger/anti-inflammatory. For me, I'm pretty healthy except for gaining 30 lbs when I quit smoking last fall. I can't seem to shake the weight. I'm 46. I had chicken pox as a baby and keep thinking I need to do some research and prepare myself in case I get shingles. I use a lot of therapeutic grade essential oils too. I love them. I also use DE and calcium bentonite clay, some homeopathics. Any help you can provide this newbie would be greatly appreciated. Laurie
Re: CSNew to List in Pittsburgh, PA
Thanks Joyce, this one is definitely going into my file. zoe From: Joyce Miller jmillerwo...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, 10 August 2012, 12:47 Subject: Re: CSNew to List in Pittsburgh, PA Zoe is absolutely right about the chicken pox and shingles: here is one very good site on the topic. http://www.nfid.org/publications/factsheets/varicellaadult.pdf -- Check the Airedale quilt blog daily to keep up to date on incentives and the story of this year's quilt. http://airedalegardenparty.blogspot.com/ If one advances confidently in the direction of his dreams, and endeavors to live the life which he has imagined, he will meet with success unexpected in common hours.~Henry David Thoreau
Re: OT CSKefirthe difference
This was Dom's group, he was still an active owner when I joined the list, but alas he went on to other things and turned the list over to his very capable moderators. zoe From: Joyce Miller jmillerwo...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, 8 August 2012, 9:59 Subject: Re: OT CSKefirthe difference I continue to recommend the kefir list at kefir_mak...@yahoogroups.com This is a great list, and there is a ton of info on kefir making, including Dom's site -- indeed, this was where I learned about Dom's site, and I have to say that it really helped me with kefir when I started. The kefir list has been terrific for more and more info about making kefir and using kefir. I don't go a day without a glass of kefir; neither do my dogs. It's great stuff. It's the best probiotic in the world and it's all natural. It's good for you whether you use raw milk or pasteurized milk. I also make water kefir and drink it every day. Joyce On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 8:31 AM, Sandy hollis302...@yahoo.com wrote: Thanks, Christel for providing a link to this site. http://users.chariot.net.au/~dna/kefirpage.html This is a wonderful website for Kefir information. Christel -- Nothing can bring you peace, but yourself. Emerson . http://www.airedalerescue.net/alphabet/a_is_for_airedale/patterns/ http://dearjubilee-joyce.blogspot.com http://www.jubileepuppies.blogspot.com/
Re: CSCS--Does anyone know how to contact Brooks ??
Please let us know if and when you hear from him. I am curious. I went ahead and mixed up a batch using the VCO instead of glycerine which I didn't have readily available. It is working !!! Not having the real recipe to use as a comparison I can only report that this one is working. The first real relief I've had in awhile. The spots are still visible but that sensation of being stabbed repeatedly in the sternum is almost gone now, when it rares its ugly head just dab a bit more on and it stops instantly. And Alan, increasing the L=lysine seems to be working too. I had more energy today than at any time since the illness, actually managed to get some real work done and several chores accomplished. Usually after one thing I would be so winded had to take a nap for most of the rest of the day. Today I've not had to take a nap nor am I very tired, but will take it easy for the rest of the day just so I don't overdo things this early in the game. I am very pleased with the results. Thanks to all who offered suggestions. zoe From: zzekel...@aol.com zzekel...@aol.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, 6 August 2012, 14:30 Subject: Re: CSCS--Does anyone know how to contact Brooks ?? In a message dated 8/6/2012 1:57:47 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, mtnwalke...@yahoo.co.uk writes: bradlebro...@gmail.com Thanks much, I just sent the questions to him, Lois
Re: CSShingles=how to make Vit.C
Since you brought it up, yes it was. zoe From: André Juthe andre.ju...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, 7 August 2012, 2:33 Subject: Re: CSShingles=how to make Vit.C Was this question directed to me? /André 2012/8/6 Zoe W mtnwalke...@yahoo.co.uk: Would you care to share? From: André Juthe andre.ju...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, 6 August 2012, 13:17 Subject: Re: CSShingles=how to make Vit.C Sounds great, but lipospheric vitamin c is even better. You can do that yourself. /André -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
CSOT - Kefir
Would any of you milk kefir brewers have any grains to spare? I have not been able to revive mine after being in storage during my illness. Can pay postage, etc and thanks for any help. zoe
Re: CSkefir
There is something called water kefir. Go to the website that was posted, you will find all you need there. The same person ( Dominic) who put up that website is also the one who started the Yahoo group I mentioned. By definition kefir is fermented milk, so don't know how you could get by without it. zoe From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, 6 August 2012, 7:22 Subject: Re: CSkefir Re: CSkefir Do you have to have milk when ingesting kefir? I hate milk unfortunately. dee From: Del d...@altsystem.com Organization: Alternative Systems Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2012 22:54:40 -0400 To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSkefir Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Resent-Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2012 19:59:54 -0700 Sorry, but I don’t agree. We make Kefir from raw milk here in Vermont, and I was using Kefir grains for the first few years, but they were a lot of trouble and never made very good kefir as far as I was concerned. I finally threw out the grains, which were multiplying out of control, and making kefir that did not taste good, and instead started using this kefir starter. Now I get thick, delicious kefir every time: http://www.amazon.com/Yogourmet-Freeze-Dried-Kefir-Starter/dp/B001EO69O2/ref=sr_1_sc_1?ie=UTF8qid=1344221466sr=8-1-spellkeywords=kefir+started This is the real stuff, it does what we want it to do for our insides, and it is much easier to make than using the grains, which I found to be very temperamental and a lot of trouble. Del From: Zoe W mailto:mtnwalke...@yahoo.co.uk Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2012 4:26 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSkefir http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Kefir_making/ This is your best source of info and of the grains do not be fooled by the folks who try to sell you the powder that you have to keep on buying. Kefir grains GROW so you will never run out and have plenty to share over time. zoe From:Kathy Tankersley babychicks...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, 5 August 2012, 16:06 Subject: CSkefir Hi, anoe know anything about kefir? Do you take it, how do you make it?, Good purchase place? Thanks for the info, Kathy
Re: CSShingles
Thanks Dorothy, I've been taking L-lysine since the beginning, but it doesn't seem to be doing anything at this point. I do believe it was beneficial in the beginning. The ice packs did more good than anything, From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, 6 August 2012, 7:24 Subject: Re: CSShingles Re: CSShingles Hi Zoe, I used to take CS for shingles and also mixed it with aloe vera gel and rubbed it on with great success. I also took whopping doses of l-lysine which the herpes zoster doesn’t like. dee From: Zoe W mtnwalke...@yahoo.co.uk Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2012 04:23:46 +0100 (BST) To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSShingles Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Resent-Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2012 20:28:58 -0700 I developed a whopping case of shingles in early January and they still are creating a bit of a problem for me, tho not nearly as much as before. it was my understanding that CS worked on bacteria but not virii so I didn't use my CS . Now Im being told that it could be beneficial. Does anyone have experience and if so should I take it internally, rub it on the lesions or just how do I go about this? zoe
Re: CSShingles
Perhaps you are right. I've been taking 500mg twice a day which is s3 times what my Dr. recommended. Will begin gradually increasing the dose and see what happens. How much Vit C do you take? zoe From: Alan Jones alanmjo...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, 6 August 2012, 9:37 Subject: Re: CSShingles Maybe you're not taking enough Lysine? How much are you taking? BTW I've been taking about 6 grams a day, along with vit C (Pauling Therapy, not for Herpes, altho I do occasionally get cold sores when stressed). -Alan On Mon, Aug 6, 2012 at 7:45 AM, Zoe W mtnwalke...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Thanks Dorothy, I've been taking L-lysine since the beginning, but it doesn't seem to be doing anything at this point. I do believe it was beneficial in the beginning. The ice packs did more good than anything, -- Alan Jones The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people. (Tenth Amendment to the US Constitution)
Re: CSShingles
Thanks Tel, the affected area is rather large- right side torso front and back, still bright red but no longer oozing. zoe From: Tel Tofflemire telt...@yahoo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, 6 August 2012, 10:20 Subject: Re: CSShingles Spray CS on the effected area. Tel Tofflemire From: Zoe W mtnwalke...@yahoo.co.uk To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, August 5, 2012 9:23 PM Subject: CSShingles I developed a whopping case of shingles in early January and they still are creating a bit of a problem for me, tho not nearly as much as before. it was my understanding that CS worked on bacteria but not virii so I didn't use my CS . Now Im being told that it could be beneficial. Does anyone have experience and if so should I take it internally, rub it on the lesions or just how do I go about this? zoe
Re: CSShingles--- CS {EIS} Brooks Mix
Thanks Lois,
I have the CS and the DMSO but not glycerin. I do have some virgin coconut
oil- do you think that would work? or should I wait til I can get some
glycerin.
zoe
From: zzekel...@aol.com zzekel...@aol.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Monday, 6 August 2012, 10:42
Subject: Re: CSShingles--- CS {EIS} Brooks Mix
In a message dated 8/6/2012 8:45:26 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
mtnwalke...@yahoo.co.uk writes:
I developed a whopping case of shingles in early January and they still are
creating a bit of a problem for me
Hi Zoe, I have a friend that had the same problem.. It is
going on 4 yrs. now she hasn't had a reoccurrence of shingles..She took a
couple tablespoons of CS {EIS} 3-4 times a day. put Brooks Mix on
topically. I'm not sure how long it took for them to go away, I'll ask her, but
they have never returned... She makes her own CS {EIS} now takes it
occasionally .
Oh, Brooks Mix is a wonderful mixture for many skin
problems--Psoriases shingles being only 2 of them...To make Brooks
Mix' 75% CS {EIS} ---10% DMSO 15% glycerin..Add the DMSO last- -It
will get the mixture warm but that's OK...Shake it a bit before you use it each
time...{ Used topically}
Thanks again to Brooks Bradley for
giving us the recipe for your mix so many other helpful health related
goodies Lois
Re: CSkefir
Grains are used to ferment the kefir. They are generally strained out before drinking and used for the next batch, When you have enough to spare they CAN be eaten and are quite useful in combating diseases. zoe From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, 6 August 2012, 11:27 Subject: Re: CSkefir Re: CSkefir Oh I thought it was grain of some sort. dee From: Zoe W mtnwalke...@yahoo.co.uk Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2012 12:53:50 +0100 (BST) To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSkefir Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Resent-Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2012 04:59:04 -0700 There is something called water kefir. Go to the website that was posted, you will find all you need there. The same person ( Dominic) who put up that website is also the one who started the Yahoo group I mentioned. By definition kefir is fermented milk, so don't know how you could get by without it. zoe From:Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, 6 August 2012, 7:22 Subject: Re: CSkefir Re: CSkefir Do you have to have milk when ingesting kefir? I hate milk unfortunately. dee From: Del d...@altsystem.com Organization: Alternative Systems Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2012 22:54:40 -0400 To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSkefir Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Resent-Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2012 19:59:54 -0700 Sorry, but I don’t agree. We make Kefir from raw milk here in Vermont, and I was using Kefir grains for the first few years, but they were a lot of trouble and never made very good kefir as far as I was concerned. I finally threw out the grains, which were multiplying out of control, and making kefir that did not taste good, and instead started using this kefir starter. Now I get thick, delicious kefir every time: http://www.amazon.com/Yogourmet-Freeze-Dried-Kefir-Starter/dp/B001EO69O2/ref=sr_1_sc_1?ie=UTF8qid=1344221466sr=8-1-spellkeywords=kefir+started This is the real stuff, it does what we want it to do for our insides, and it is much easier to make than using the grains, which I found to be very temperamental and a lot of trouble. Del From: Zoe W mailto:mtnwalke...@yahoo.co.uk Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2012 4:26 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSkefir http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Kefir_making/ This is your best source of info and of the grains do not be fooled by the folks who try to sell you the powder that you have to keep on buying. Kefir grains GROW so you will never run out and have plenty to share over time. zoe From:Kathy Tankersley babychicks...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, 5 August 2012, 16:06 Subject: CSkefir Hi, anoe know anything about kefir? Do you take it, how do you make it?, Good purchase place? Thanks for the info, Kathy
Re: CSShingles
Was taking 1000mg a day in a divided dose. Have just doubled that, barring any problems will increase it again in a few days. zoe From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, 6 August 2012, 11:28 Subject: Re: CSShingles Re: CSShingles Do you take a few thousand milligrams? I was taking two or three thousand in a day. dee
Re: CSShingles
Thanks Nenah, When I lived in CA, I collected my own chapparal every spring and made my tinctures. I still have some around here somewhere, everything is scattered since the move, looking for it now. Am also looking for the Shegoi, since I am literally camping out in my grandaughters bedroom, there isn't much room to do things like I am used to doing. I have managed CS, KT and Kefir amid some moans and groans so I really hate to push things any further if they are available commercially. I also make my own Vitamin C from dried orange peelings. Will send that recipe along directly. zoe From: Nenah Sylver nenahsyl...@cox.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, 6 August 2012, 11:35 Subject: RE: CSShingles Zoe wrote: I developed a whopping case of shingles in early January and they still are creating a bit of a problem for me, tho not nearly as much as before. it was my understanding that CS worked on bacteria but not virii so I didn't use my CS . Now Im being told that it could be beneficial. Does anyone have experience and if so should I take it internally, rub it on the lesions or just how do I go about this? = Zoe, You can try chaparral too, also known as creosote bush. There’s a company that makes a form of it called Shegoi, where potentially liver-toxic compounds have been removed. (Note that I said “potentially.” This is for the medical establishment.) The Shegoi comes in capsules and a spray. I sent the spray to a friend whose wife had horrible shingles on her back. He sprayed it onto her back and in 20 minutes the pain and burning were completely gone. The stuff works great. You can Google it. Nenah Nenah Sylver, PhD author, the NEW Rife Handbook (2011) Holistic Handbook of Sauna Therapy(2004) VoiceBio and Biomodulator certification www.nenahsylver.com; www.rifehandbook.com
Re: CSShingles
Yes, that is what I had always heard. Single celled organism = bacteria - Virii are not, they are forms of DNA/RNA a totally different pile of worms, but apparently CS does work on at least a few of them such as HIV, HepC and some of the Herpes of which shingles is a part. zoe From: Gayla Chepourkoff aera...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, 6 August 2012, 11:40 Subject: Re: CSShingles CS will work on any single cell organism. Gayla - Original Message - From: Nenah Sylver To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, August 06, 2012 8:35 AM Subject: RE: CSShingles Zoe wrote: I developed a whopping case of shingles in early January and they still are creating a bit of a problem for me, tho not nearly as much as before. it was my understanding that CS worked on bacteria but not virii so I didn't use my CS . Now Im being told that it could be beneficial. Does anyone have experience and if so should I take it internally, rub it on the lesions or just how do I go about this? = Zoe, You can try chaparral too, also known as creosote bush. There’s a company that makes a form of it called Shegoi, where potentially liver-toxic compounds have been removed. (Note that I said “potentially.” This is for the medical establishment.) The Shegoi comes in capsules and a spray. I sent the spray to a friend whose wife had horrible shingles on her back. He sprayed it onto her back and in 20 minutes the pain and burning were completely gone. The stuff works great. You can Google it. Nenah Nenah Sylver, PhD author, the NEW Rife Handbook (2011) Holistic Handbook of Sauna Therapy(2004) VoiceBio and Biomodulator certification www.nenahsylver.com; www.rifehandbook.com
Re: CSShingles--- CS {EIS} Brooks Mix-- Coconut oil ????
Well Im going to try it. May not be exactly Brooks Mix but it should work
since coconut oil is known to work on the Herpes virus in and of itself.
From: zzekel...@aol.com zzekel...@aol.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Monday, 6 August 2012, 11:28
Subject: Re: CSShingles--- CS {EIS} Brooks Mix-- Coconut oil
Zoe, just checked my Brooks archive
I couldn't find his comments on the fact that some people are allergic to
glycerin : I do think he mentioned coconut oil but don't remember for sure...
Hopefully some of the other group members will remember let us
know...Lois
Thanks Lois,
I have the CS and the DMSO but not glycerin. I do have some virgin coconut
oil- do you think that would work? or should I wait til I can get some
glycerin.
zoe
Re: CSShingles
Holy Cow Melly, You may have just hit on the KEY to this mess. I have been taking large doses of L-argenine and was doing so PRIOR to my outbreak of shingles. This is not going to be easy. Cannot in good conscience stop the L-argenine altogether since I have HBP along with leukemia and the accompanying chronic bronchitis. My diet is very specific for anti-cancer fruits, veggies, juices, celtic sea salt , etc ( Meats, fish and cheese are also consumed but in very small quantities.) so Im caught between a rock and a hard place on some of this. Must find the proper balance without causing any further mishaps. From: Melly Bag tita_...@yahoo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, 6 August 2012, 11:47 Subject: CSShingles Zoe, Aside from taking L-lysine, try to avoid foods/seeds/nuts/veggies that are high in arginine. For some reason arginine triggers an outbreak of herpes and it might do the same for shingles. Melly
Re: CSShingles=how to make Vit.C
Thanks Alan, I have been a Pauling fan for many years and trust his judgement. This page is now bookmarked for future reference. In case you are interested I have a recipe for making my own ascorbic acid and aside from the dehydrator its FREE. ( We live in a very humid area so have to use the dehydrator, left them on the table for two days and they molded.) ALL OF MY FORMULAE ARE AVAILABLE FOR DOWNLOAD AT: http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Herbal_Remedies/files/Doc%20Ian%20Shillington%20ND/ Organic Solutions Volume 4 - Issue 4 VITAMIN C OK! OK! OK! So you just found out that almost all of the Vitamin Boys are making their Vitamin-C from Genetically Engineered Corn. What you are about to read is highly confidential and there’s not one Giant Pharmaceutical Company that wants you to see this data. What! You exclaim. How am I supposed to get enough Vitamin C into my family if I don't buy store bought supplements??? Answer: You make your own!!! J This secret, even the Health Food Stores don't want you know. You can make your very own Vitamin C supplement that is 10 times better than anything you could buy in a store at NO EXTRA COST TO YOU! YES! IT'S FREE!!! Does it have a 1,000 Mg of Vitamin C per dosage? NOPE! Does it have the US RDA amount per dosage? No way Jose! Has it been approved by the FDA? Absolutely Not! Well - what does it have then Doc??? It has live enzymes that allow the Vitamin C to be 100% assimilated into your body. It has its own natural source of Rutin, Hesperidin, and Bioflavonoids. It's easily acquired and easy to make and even tastes absolutely awesome! C'mon Doc! Knock off the suspense and tell one and all what this miracle source is! -- It's Orange Lemon Peels! That's right. Just plain ordinary Orange or Lemon peels left over from the ORGANIC Oranges and Lemons you usually buy at the store will do the trick. Save all of your peels after you eat the inside of the fruit and cut them into thin strips. Place on a plate on your dining room table and let dry at room temperature for a couple of days until dry and crisp. Break up into smaller pieces and mix with your favorite tea (makes the tea taste great, but this approach will destroy the enzymes because of the heat). Better yet, place the peel strips into your coffee grinder and grind into a powder (won't hurt the enzymes) and use to mix with your early morning Health drink. One rounded teaspoon will supply you with more Organic Vitamin-C Complex, Rutin, Hesperidin, Bioflavonoids than your body needs for the day regardless of your size. A rounded teaspoon of fresh homemade citrus peel powder mixed in your blender with some fresh organic apple juice tastes awesome. Get even more creative and add some of your favorite fruit to the mixture. Yours in Knowledge, Health and Freedom, Ian “Doc” Shillington N.D. -- From: Alan Jones alanmjo...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, 6 August 2012, 11:21 Subject: Re: CSShingles The Pauling Therapy basically indicates that you should take as much as you can, short of bowel issues (can be up to 15 grams). I've been taking about 3-5 grams of sodium ascorbate a day, even this much gets me a little gassy. I can't take nearly that much ascorbic acid without getting gas. Here is a nice summary of the therapy: http://practicingmedicinewithoutalicense.com/protocol/excerpt_chp7.pdf -Alan On Mon, Aug 6, 2012 at 9:29 AM, Zoe W mtnwalke...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Perhaps you are right. I've been taking 500mg twice a day which is s3 times what my Dr. recommended. Will begin gradually increasing the dose and see what happens. How much Vit C do you take? zoe From: Alan Jones alanmjo...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, 6 August 2012, 9:37 Subject: Re: CSShingles Maybe you're not taking enough Lysine? How much are you taking? BTW I've been taking about 6 grams a day, along with vit C (Pauling Therapy, not for Herpes, altho I do occasionally get cold sores when stressed). -Alan -- Alan Jones The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people. (Tenth Amendment to the US Constitution)
Re: CSShingles=how to make Vit.C
I'm not a doctor hon, nor even a scientist, but my guess is that if you are herxing you've done something to stir up the bad guys. :) Be very careful you don't wind up with an allergy to citric acid. When I first began making KT= it tasted so good I drank about 12-16 oz of it in one fell swoop. Major HERX- very uncomfortable, but not life threatening. Start small and build gradually. zoe From: Lena Guyot drumr...@stny.rr.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, 6 August 2012, 12:39 Subject: Re: CSShingles=how to make Vit.C Hi Zoe, This looks very exciting! I've been liquifying lemon quarters (whole) and drinking them in my water, rather than just the juice. I'm also doing sea salt and Vitamin C for my Lyme disease (have done so for 5 years and it's definitely helped a lot) My question: Is the whole citrus a major increase in my routine of C this way? I've been herxing more lately, so am wondering if I'm killing more pathogens than usual. Be well, Léna On Aug 6, 2012, at 12:28 PM, Zoe W wrote:
Re: CSShingles=how to make Vit.C
Would you care to share? From: André Juthe andre.ju...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, 6 August 2012, 13:17 Subject: Re: CSShingles=how to make Vit.C Sounds great, but lipospheric vitamin c is even better. You can do that yourself. /André
Re: CSShingles=how to make Vit.C
No I meant citric acid, also present in citrus fruits and very prone to allergic reactions when taken in large amounts. From: PTFerrance ptf2...@bellsouth.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, 6 August 2012, 13:15 Subject: RE: CSShingles=how to make Vit.C A herx is usually from die-off and the toxins overloading the system. Why the focus on citric acid? Did you mean ascorbic acid? PT From:Zoe W [mailto:mtnwalke...@yahoo.co.uk] Sent: Monday, August 06, 2012 12:56 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSShingles=how to make Vit.C I'm not a doctor hon, nor even a scientist, but my guess is that if you are herxing you've done something to stir up the bad guys. :) Be very careful you don't wind up with an allergy to citric acid. When I first began making KT= it tasted so good I drank about 12-16 oz of it in one fell swoop. Major HERX- very uncomfortable, but not life threatening. Start small and build gradually. zoe From:Lena Guyot drumr...@stny.rr.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, 6 August 2012, 12:39 Subject: Re: CSShingles=how to make Vit.C Hi Zoe, This looks very exciting! I've been liquifying lemon quarters (whole) and drinking them in my water, rather than just the juice. I'm also doing sea salt and Vitamin C for my Lyme disease (have done so for 5 years and it's definitely helped a lot) My question: Is the whole citrus a major increase in my routine of C this way? I've been herxing more lately, so am wondering if I'm killing more pathogens than usual. Be well, Léna On Aug 6, 2012, at 12:28 PM, Zoe W wrote: No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2197 / Virus Database: 2437/5181 - Release Date: 08/06/12 No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2197 / Virus Database: 2437/5181 - Release Date: 08/06/12
Re: CSCS--Does anyone know how to contact Brooks ??
bradlebro...@gmail.com From: zzekel...@aol.com zzekel...@aol.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, 6 August 2012, 13:46 Subject: CSCS--Does anyone know how to contact Brooks ?? I know he is really busy but would love to contact him on this matter, Lois Hi All, I am a user of the Brooks Bradley Mix and love it. I have a question, i am thinking of adding a bit of urea and allantoin, does anyone know if this would be safe taking into account that DMSO brings everything even up to the brain? How much of each should i put? Many thanks for any advice you can give. Melly
Re: CSShingles
Thanks Neville,
A nice simple approach suits my personality to a tee. I have as suggested
earlier begun my CS/EIS regimen internally already and
will begin the modified Brooks Mix tomorrow- my energy is done for today. The
scarring is pretty unsightly or I wouldn't bother with this step.
I have also doubled + my intake of L-lysine and must report that it is making a
difference already. Still have to process the Vit C, have several jars of
dried orange/lemon peels, need to run them thru the vitamix and then begin
using, will most likely mix it with the KT which is finally finished.
Many thanks to all of you for your advice and support.
zoe
From: Neville Munn one.red...@hotmail.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Monday, 6 August 2012, 20:37
Subject: RE: CSShingles
I treated a family member for Shingles with just plain home made EIS/CS.
Made a glass in morning {using rain water to get 40+ silver content, takes
about 3-4 minutes} and administered that during morning hours, then made
another glass in afternoon and administered that until bedtime. Taken
sublingually swirling under tongue for a couple minutes before swallowing each
mouthful. Did this for several days, around 500-600ml a day, and I could count
the blisters that actually broke the skin on the fingers of one hand, the rest
faded away without breaking the skin. He was over it in around a fortnight. I
believe by hitting it hard and fast with that high ionic silver solution fixed
the issue internally, I never sprayed or rubbed any on.
Now, I suspect it may depend on how soon one starts the EIS/CS for such quick
results, and he never experienced any Herx, and *THAT* I believe is because he
was ingesting ionic solution rather than those 'supposedly?' colloidal
solutions, it passes through the body really quick. I didn't start this until
the pain and rash were just beginning. All he took other than EIS was pain
killers to help with the pain for around a week. EIS/CS taken *IMMEDIATELY*
after brewing maximises the intake of Ag+ ions, and even though I had a rain
water batch lab tested, that 40+ silver content is mostly Ag+ ions - NOT
particles, and that is what I believe works best {opinion based on results of
above, and disbelief of marketers products blurbs}. He has never had a
recurrence, that was several years ago.
EIS beneficial?Most assuredly YES going on my results of the above. Would
not hesitate to repeat the above should it ever become necessary.
Disclaimer, and personal opinion ONLY: If there was any Herx at all I would
reduce the daily volume intake, but would continue with it because Herx is a
sign of baddies being killed off, but the bodies elimination organs are
becoming overloaded and cannot get rid of all that crap quick enough, hence one
may feel decidedly crook for a while with 'baddie backup' until the body slowly
expels that crap...Time frame - wouldn't have a clue? I'd probly back off the
EIS to around 30, maybe 50ml twice a day?
Now I mention Herx, I do recall when I first started my daily regimen of EIS
intake one of our daughters said I looked quite yellow for a week or so. I did
in fact feel quite crook in myself though now I recall, but then I was taking
250-300ml each morning when I first started, and that was with rain water not
DW. I reduced that to 30ml and got over it, and I've been on 30ml ever since,
with Distilled Water of course. And just to be clear, as far as I know I
didn't then, and don't now, have any other health issues, that may make some
difference too, don't know?
N.
Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2012 04:23:46 +0100
From: mtnwalke...@yahoo.co.uk
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSShingles
I developed a whopping case of shingles in early January and they still are
creating a bit of a problem for me, tho not nearly as much as before.
it was my understanding that CS worked on bacteria but not virii so I didn't
use my CS . Now Im being told that it could be beneficial.
Does anyone have experience and if so should I take it internally, rub it on
the lesions or just how do I go about this?
zoe
Re: CSkefir
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Kefir_making/ This is your best source of info and of the grains do not be fooled by the folks who try to sell you the powder that you have to keep on buying. Kefir grains GROW so you will never run out and have plenty to share over time. zoe From: Kathy Tankersley babychicks...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, 5 August 2012, 16:06 Subject: CSkefir Hi, anoe know anything about kefir? Do you take it, how do you make it?, Good purchase place? Thanks for the info, Kathy
CSShingles
I developed a whopping case of shingles in early January and they still are creating a bit of a problem for me, tho not nearly as much as before. it was my understanding that CS worked on bacteria but not virii so I didn't use my CS . Now Im being told that it could be beneficial. Does anyone have experience and if so should I take it internally, rub it on the lesions or just how do I go about this? zoe
Re: CSkefir
Yes, I too like the smoothies. Currently using raw milk and trying to find a source for goat milk. I don't particularly like the taste of plain kefir, but I know how good it is for me. If nothing else is available I will add a few drops of a flavored liquid stevia. zoe of a From: Dianne France dianne_fra...@hotmail.com To: silver-list silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, 5 August 2012, 20:36 Subject: RE: CSkefir I also use kefir grains to ferment in goat milk. The yahoo group is fantastic. The grains look like minature cauliflowers. Many that are part of the Weston A Price groups have kefir and kombucha. They usually are willing to share but the grains can be bought. I had problems with bought grains (dehydrated) getting them to grow. Kefir multiply as they mature and then you can divide and share. My husband likes kefir smoothies with fruit added. Check out http://users.sa.chariot.net.au/~dna/kefirpage.html Good luck. Dianne Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2012 21:26:13 +0100 From: mtnwalke...@yahoo.co.uk Subject: Re: CSkefir To: silver-list@eskimo.com http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Kefir_making/ This is your best source of info and of the grains do not be fooled by the folks who try to sell you the powder that you have to keep on buying. Kefir grains GROW so you will never run out and have plenty to share over time. zoe From: Kathy Tankersley babychicks...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, 5 August 2012, 16:06 Subject: CSkefir Hi, anoe know anything about kefir? Do you take it, how do you make it?, Good purchase place? Thanks for the info, Kathy
Re: CSRe: Silica Gel Remedy for Hair Loss and More Ideas
I wonder if VOC oil could also be used as well? If you meant VCO then yes it can and most likely will work even better. zoe -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRe: Silica Gel Remedy for Hair Loss and More Ideas
VCO = Virgin Coconut Oil and is the Standard abbreviation used by the industry, the Organic is a given. zoe Lisa wrote: What's VCO? -Original Message- From: zoe w [mailto:mtnwalke...@yahoo.co.uk] Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 9:37 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSRe: Silica Gel Remedy for Hair Loss and More Ideas I wonder if VOC oil could also be used as well? If you meant VCO then yes it can and most likely will work even better. zoe -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSposting
Yes, please don't unsub, we would miss you and your input. zoe Keep in mind that when you point your finger at someone, you have three more pointing back at yourself. O:-) Shirley Reed wrote: I hope you don't unsub!! Many are not aware of health conditions like cerebral palsy, visual impairment, neuro problems, etc. that can cause spelling or grammar errors. My own keyboard is malfunctioning at present. So welcome aboard. This is THE best list around. pj -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSBone Spur
You can use sugar, molasses, stevia, just about anything to sweeten to taste. Never drink it straight, always dilute with water, juice, tea, whatever. Otherwise it could erode your tooth enamel and cause stomach distress. zoe Fuzzmom wrote: Wow..no i'mnot taking anything at the moment..I thin I should be. Can ou use sugar mixed with acv? I ran out of honey and i dont think I could drink it straight. - Original Message - *From:* Sharlene Miyamura mailto:fire888ea...@gmail.com *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com *Sent:* Friday, October 09, 2009 12:28 AM *Subject:* Re: CSBone Spur If you're taking calcium, make sure you up the ratio of magnesium to calcium. I would take magnesium to bowel tolerance and back down a bit. Hydrangea is a great herb to take for stones or spurs. Add lemon to your drinking water. Sharlene 2009/10/8 Fuzzmom fuzzm...@frontier.com mailto:fuzzm...@frontier.com I am asking because my heels Burn and hurt and feel awful. I can hardly stand on them and yet there is no lumps or bumps. My feet also cramp constantly and everything from the knees down is swollen. My doctor says it's not a circulation issue but the only things that help are epsom salts and eeping feet up. even the bone that attaches from my heel to the rest of my anle hurts. That's why I was wondering what they are and what to do i've tried everything prescription and nothing has owrked. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.421 / Virus Database: 270.14.7/2421 - Release Date: 10/07/09 20:49:00
Re: CSBone Spur
I mixed up a 10 oz concoction, which was 8 oz of juice, plus the ACV, Honey and cayenne pepper. Then I would sip abt 2 oz/s at a time thruout the day. Its a good idea to follow with plain water too, just to get the acid out of mouth. Before meals, after meals, any time at all. Fuzzmom wrote: Yies good to now..thanks. Do you tae it before or after meals.or doesn't it matter..and howmany times a day? - Original Message - *From:* zoe w mailto:mtnwalke...@yahoo.co.uk *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com *Sent:* Friday, October 09, 2009 2:20 AM *Subject:* Re: CSBone Spur You can use sugar, molasses, stevia, just about anything to sweeten to taste. Never drink it straight, always dilute with water, juice, tea, whatever. Otherwise it could erode your tooth enamel and cause stomach distress. zoe Fuzzmom wrote: Wow..no i'mnot taking anything at the moment..I thin I should be. Can ou use sugar mixed with acv? I ran out of honey and i dont think I could drink it straight. - Original Message - *From:* Sharlene Miyamura mailto:fire888ea...@gmail.com *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com *Sent:* Friday, October 09, 2009 12:28 AM *Subject:* Re: CSBone Spur If you're taking calcium, make sure you up the ratio of magnesium to calcium. I would take magnesium to bowel tolerance and back down a bit. Hydrangea is a great herb to take for stones or spurs. Add lemon to your drinking water. Sharlene 2009/10/8 Fuzzmom fuzzm...@frontier.com mailto:fuzzm...@frontier.com I am asking because my heels Burn and hurt and feel awful. I can hardly stand on them and yet there is no lumps or bumps. My feet also cramp constantly and everything from the knees down is swollen. My doctor says it's not a circulation issue but the only things that help are epsom salts and eeping feet up. even the bone that attaches from my heel to the rest of my anle hurts. That's why I was wondering what they are and what to do i've tried everything prescription and nothing has owrked. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.421 / Virus Database: 270.14.7/2421 - Release Date: 10/07/09 20:49:00 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.421 / Virus Database: 270.14.7/2421 - Release Date: 10/07/09 20:49:00
Re: CSsilver water in eyes
None at all, I do it all the time. Plus I put my eyebright formula into CS. zoe jessie70 wrote: are they any problems with putting a few drops in the eye? Thanks, Jess
Re: CSsilver water in eyes - thanks!
OMG! I've heard it all now. Some folks are so freakin afraid of everything they don't understand.Far as I know the only potential danger is the extremely slim possibility of turning blue and thats not even dangerous, just looks weird. My eyesight is failing, but not because of the CS. Its the CS that is saving what little bit is left. zoe jessie70 wrote: Thanks. I'd been using it for a cut in the bottom of my eye lid and then for my dog who has suddenly had a lot of eye mucous. On a dog list a woman told me it could blind us! Jess -Original Message- *From:* zoe w [mailto:mtnwalke...@yahoo.co.uk] *Sent:* Friday, October 09, 2009 1:19 PM *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com *Subject:* Re: CSsilver water in eyes None at all, I do it all the time. Plus I put my eyebright formula into CS. zoe jessie70 wrote: are they any problems with putting a few drops in the eye? Thanks, Jess
Re: CSneed help -- mrsa
Raw Garlic also does wonders with MRSA, taken internally as well as applied as a poultice. zoe Dianne France wrote: Dear Group I need to ask a question for the person I have talked about with MRSA. He has continued to improve with the AMMS @ 15 drops and using CS topically. Only problem is he has two sores on his arm that won't heal. He puts CS on it and it dries on top but internal is still viable. Should I suggest adding DMSO to the CS topically? Would the Godzilla help these sores? He is getting frustrated because he got better so quickly to come to a stand still on these two sores. Also I would like to ask does MRSA remain dormant in your system once you have had the infection? Dianne Your E-mail and More On-the-Go. Get Windows Live Hotmail Free. Sign up now. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/171222985/direct/01/
Re: CSBone spur
Marshalee Hallett wrote: My bone spurs, in feet and spine, all went away since I took CMO for arthritis, and have never been back! Marshalee CMO zoe -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSBone Spur
That works too, Sorry for the delay, I wasn't at the PC for a while. zoe Gayla Roberts wrote: I don't have an answering post yet, so I will chime in here. The recipe I am familiar with is 1 tablespoon ACV (apple cider vinegar - preferrably raw, like Bragg's) and work up to 1 teaspoon of cayenne. Mix in 1 cup of warm or cool water and drink/ Gayla Bob and Gayla Roberts Always Enough Ranch Acampo, CA - Original Message - From: Peter Converse pconve...@primus.ca To: zoe w mtnwalke...@yahoo.co.uk; silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 4:42 PM Subject: Re: CSBone Spur -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSBone Spur
Believe me, if you had one you wouldn't have to ask. They are quite painful no matter where they manifest themselves. They are caused by an abnormal buildup of calcium where it doesn't belong. Sometimes you will see the lump, but not always. An x-ray will confirm the diagnosis. zoe Fuzzmom wrote: What are bone spurs an how do you know if you have them? i mean what do they feeel..r look like? - Original Message - From: Gayla Roberts aera...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 12:58 AM Subject: Re: CSBone Spur I don't have an answering post yet, so I will chime in here. The recipe I am familiar with is 1 tablespoon ACV (apple cider vinegar - preferrably raw, like Bragg's) and work up to 1 teaspoon of cayenne. Mix in 1 cup of warm or cool water and drink/ Gayla Bob and Gayla Roberts Always Enough Ranch Acampo, CA - Original Message - From: Peter Converse pconve...@primus.ca To: zoe w mtnwalke...@yahoo.co.uk; silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 4:42 PM Subject: Re: CSBone Spur Hi Zoe, Do you have the recipe? Peter - Original Message - From: zoe w mtnwalke...@yahoo.co.uk To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 5:40 PM Subject: Re: CSBone Spur Once upon a time I had bonespurs on both heels- quite painful and one on my wrist just below the thumb joint which interfered with thumb movement and was also quite painful. I also had some painful hemorrhoids for which someone advised I put some cayenne pepper in some Bragg's Raw Apple Cider vinegar. This seemed really strange to me but others on the list verified it worked so I tried it.Not only did it clear the rrhoids after about 3 weeks I noticed that all the bone spurs were gone as well. That was several years ago and none have come back. zoe Dan Nave wrote: This was written by ransley a few months ago. It may relate to your inquiry about bone spur mitigation... Dan -- Forwarded message -- From: rans...@atmc.net Date: Fri, May 15, 2009 at 7:20 AM Subject: RE: CSSynopsis of my experience with Magnesium Bicarbonate To: silver-list@eskimo.com Cc: M. G. Devour mdev...@eskimo.com Mike wrote: Do you take these magnesium doses on an empty stomach? You say you did this mostly at night, so I'm wondering how long after meals or snacking... When you get a chance would you please describe what you're doing with (digestive enzymes), as well as product source and maybe pointers to information you've found useful? I think either or both of these therapies may end up being part of my own path to recovery. Hey Mike- Sorry to take so long, been out of town for a few days. Yes, on empty stomach, 2 hours minimum after eating anything and preferably not having eaten too much at that time just to be sure. Sometimes 3-4 hours since I was really serious about getting the best effect of this. I did it at night merely because magnesium is calming and inducing of sleep and because some of these effects demanded being still. I have another reason for getting into enzymes. My wife has a breast lump that was not diagnosed as cancerous, but the surgeon tried to scare her into immediate surgery. We are limited in our options about that here especially because of medical mega-corporations moving into the area. So we're going alternative. Enzymes are part of what we're doing and I'm doing everything she's doing just on general principle. Besides, I have a few lumps and such scattered around and want to see what enzymes will do for them. There are many excellent enzymes out there, so many that it is confusing, but I was really impressed when Bragg's got into the act: www.braggzyme.com. It seems to me that Bragg's doesn't get into something that they don't totally believe in. I listened to the audio at that site by William Wong, over and over and decided this was for me. We ordered ours from Fubao Health Store in San Francisco and were pleased with their price and their free shipping deal over $99. Delivery was timely. My wife is eating raw Daikon Radish as part of her enzyme effort. Supposedly they help disperse fibro-tumors. We are also considering Lumbrokinase which is fairly new. I'd really like to hear from anyone who has taken it. Hope this helps, Bob/DaddyBob -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.421 / Virus Database: 270.14.7/2421 - Release Date: 10/07/09 20:49
Re: CSBone Spur and ACV
You heard wrong, those are the very folks who need ACV the most. zoe Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote: I had heard that ACV is not good for people with candida (thrush) issues though. dee On 8 Oct 2009, at 09:31, djphe...@att.net wrote: I wonder if anything natural I could take would disolve it? Donna ACS I have heard about Apple Cider Vinegar helping to dissolve them. I mix equal parts ACV with mother, lemon juice, and raw honey and take 2 Tablespoons when I remember. It's a bit tangy, but the honey helps a lot, and it's all good for you. My husband took some when his back was bothering him. Seemed to help. It's supposed to help lower blood pressure and alkalize the blood, too. I've also heard of another recipe with equal parts ACV and honey with garlic. Now that would be interesting to taste... Debbie -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSBone Spur and ACV
Sorry dee, didn't mean to come across so short. There are a ton of myths circulating on the web and its really hard to sort thru whats true and whats not. Just because a substance contains some yeast and or bacteria does not mean that its bad for us. The fact is that the good yeasts and bacteria are a great help in fighting off the bad ones like Candida and will leave the good ones in its stead. ACV. Kombucha, Kefir, Yogurt, etc are all very beneficial to those of us who suffer from the bad ones. zoe Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote: I stand corrected (very) dee On 8 Oct 2009, at 13:48, zoe w wrote: You heard wrong, those are the very folks who need ACV the most. zoe -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSFLU
Steve, I use Lugol's ( still the old 10%) and put 5 drops IN my EIS 2 oz. as a mouthwash and gargle every morning. The first little bit I spit out, the rest of it gets drunk. This keeps me cold and flu free, assists with a persistant cough I developed years ago as well as keeps my rotten gums from being problematic.Not seen any change in the gray tho, that is amazing. zoe Norton, Steve wrote: The iodine might help. I also had been advised to try iodine and I put it off till about a month ago. I now use Lugol's daily and have cut back on my use of EIS because the iodine seems to be working for me. I don't know if it will help a cough though. . One other change I have noticed is my whiskers turning from grey to black. Still seems odd to me when I look in the mirror. Been grey for 20 yrs and blond before that .- Steve N From: Leslie leslie3...@yahoo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wed Oct 07 23:54:37 2009 Subject: Re: CSFLU I either have the flu or pneumonia. Am beginning to feel better but have coughed myself silly, sore throat, and one blocked ear. Sinuses have bothered me for a month but kept up with the CS. That is all I have taken besides cough drops. I was not prepared for this and sure won't go looking for leaves. LOL I have been rather disappointed that the CS didn't knock it out as I drank a lot all through the day. Sprayed my face,nose, ears and throat. It's the cough that has been the worst. Did spit up some blood. Oh, Roger mentioned taking some Iodine along with CS. Would that help me?? I have some here. Oh, the mold problem mentioned, there is a solution. Get a spray bottle and mix 3/4 Hydrogen Peroxide with rest water and spray away. Got this info from a man who helped with the FEMA trailers. You can also add to your clothes wash and will not discolor. I would avoid that shot no matter what. Best to all. Leslie
Re: CSNebulizers -- again
I bought the Sigma Neb Compact Ultrasonic Nebulizer Model 3060 from ebay for around 25$ new. Its in its 3rd year now and works great. zoe Dianne France wrote: MA We just bought one recently and absolutely love it. We bought the following thru ebay. It was the best price I could find for this model. It's small, ultrasonic and works off batteries. OMRON NE-U22v BATTERY PORTABLE NEBULIZER - BRAND NEW! http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=300342998400 Item# 300342998400 $169.95 USD 1 $169.95 USD Shipping and handling $7.95 USD Insurance - included Total $177.90 USD Payment $177.90 USD Payment sent to kingof...@yahoo.com Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2009 04:08:14 -0700 From: marmar...@bellsouth.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSNebulizers -- again With the advent of the flu season here (and I'm another one who avoids flu shots), I decided that it would be prudent to have a nebulizer on hand. So I'm finally going to go ahead and buy one -- and of course can't remember the *best* one to get (CRS disease actively ongoing here). So, dear list members, which one should I get? Thanks. MA Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft. Get it now. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/171222986/direct/01/
Re: CSBone Spur and ACV
LOL, now why does that sound familiar. :-D Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote: Its ok zoe, I don't know where I read that as I read so many things while trawling through different web sites and I can't save everything. Having said that, I often can't find the things I *do* save lol dee On 8 Oct 2009, at 16:02, zoe w wrote: -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSBone spur
Yes it is hon, and bully for you for finding the right stuff. zoe Marshalee Hallett wrote: LOL! I sure didn`t feel very young in 1996 when I was literally dying with Lyme Disease! Thanks to CS, CMO, Vanadium, Pug dogs and good friends, I now feel that life is still worth living! Marshalee On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 11:00 AM, Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org mailto:d...@deetroy.org wrote: Just a mere youngster Marshalee! dee On 8 Oct 2009, at 16:56, Marshalee Hallett wrote: I don`t take anything now, other than CS and vitamins and minerals. Not bad for a 57-year old fat lady! Marshalee -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSFLU
Same here EIS(CS), raw garlic and Lugol's do the trick for me. zoe sol wrote: Not me. Haven't had a flu of any kind for the past 7 or 8 years. That timing coincides with my starting to mist with EIS [CS] and also with stopping getting flu vaccinations. sol Trem wrote: Let's have a show of hands.anyone caught a flu bug this year? -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSBone spur
http://www.bestcmo.com/ Lisa wrote: What exactly is CMO? -Original Message- From: sol [mailto:sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com] Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 5:59 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSBone spur Marshall Dudley wrote: Yes, CMO can be fantastic. I wiped out my arthritis with it about 10 years ago, and it has never come back. Great stuff. So what does it mean if someone did a full course of good quality CMO without any improvement whatsoever? I speculate that means the pain is/was not caused by actual arthritis? sol -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSBone Spur
Once upon a time I had bonespurs on both heels- quite painful and one on my wrist just below the thumb joint which interfered with thumb movement and was also quite painful. I also had some painful hemorrhoids for which someone advised I put some cayenne pepper in some Bragg's Raw Apple Cider vinegar. This seemed really strange to me but others on the list verified it worked so I tried it.Not only did it clear the rrhoids after about 3 weeks I noticed that all the bone spurs were gone as well. That was several years ago and none have come back. zoe Dan Nave wrote: This was written by ransley a few months ago. It may relate to your inquiry about bone spur mitigation... Dan -- Forwarded message -- From: rans...@atmc.net Date: Fri, May 15, 2009 at 7:20 AM Subject: RE: CSSynopsis of my experience with Magnesium Bicarbonate To: silver-list@eskimo.com Cc: M. G. Devour mdev...@eskimo.com Mike wrote: Do you take these magnesium doses on an empty stomach? You say you did this mostly at night, so I'm wondering how long after meals or snacking... When you get a chance would you please describe what you're doing with (digestive enzymes), as well as product source and maybe pointers to information you've found useful? I think either or both of these therapies may end up being part of my own path to recovery. Hey Mike- Sorry to take so long, been out of town for a few days. Yes, on empty stomach, 2 hours minimum after eating anything and preferably not having eaten too much at that time just to be sure. Sometimes 3-4 hours since I was really serious about getting the best effect of this. I did it at night merely because magnesium is calming and inducing of sleep and because some of these effects demanded being still. I have another reason for getting into enzymes. My wife has a breast lump that was not diagnosed as cancerous, but the surgeon tried to scare her into immediate surgery. We are limited in our options about that here especially because of medical mega-corporations moving into the area. So we're going alternative. Enzymes are part of what we're doing and I'm doing everything she's doing just on general principle. Besides, I have a few lumps and such scattered around and want to see what enzymes will do for them. There are many excellent enzymes out there, so many that it is confusing, but I was really impressed when Bragg's got into the act: www.braggzyme.com. It seems to me that Bragg's doesn't get into something that they don't totally believe in. I listened to the audio at that site by William Wong, over and over and decided this was for me. We ordered ours from Fubao Health Store in San Francisco and were pleased with their price and their free shipping deal over $99. Delivery was timely. My wife is eating raw Daikon Radish as part of her enzyme effort. Supposedly they help disperse fibro-tumors. We are also considering Lumbrokinase which is fairly new. I'd really like to hear from anyone who has taken it. Hope this helps, Bob/DaddyBob -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSBone Spur
LOL, I drank it.8-) MaryAnn Helland wrote: Ummm Zoe? After you put the cayenne pepper in the Bragg's Raw Apple Cider vinegar -- what exactly did you do with this stuff? MA *From:* zoe w mtnwalke...@yahoo.co.uk *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com *Sent:* Wednesday, October 7, 2009 4:40:28 PM *Subject:* Re: CSBone Spur Once upon a time I had bonespurs on both heels- quite painful and one on my wrist just below the thumb joint which interfered with thumb movement and was also quite painful. I also had some painful hemorrhoids for which someone advised I put some cayenne pepper in some Bragg's Raw Apple Cider vinegar. This seemed really strange to me but others on the list verified it worked so I tried it.Not only did it clear the rrhoids after about 3 weeks I noticed that all the bone spurs were gone as well. That was several years ago and none have come back. zoe Dan Nave wrote: This was written by ransley a few months ago. It may relate to your inquiry about bone spur mitigation... Dan -- Forwarded message -- From: rans...@atmc.net mailto:rans...@atmc.net Date: Fri, May 15, 2009 at 7:20 AM Subject: RE: CSSynopsis of my experience with Magnesium Bicarbonate To: silver-list@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com Cc: M. G. Devour mdev...@eskimo..com mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com Mike wrote: Do you take these magnesium doses on an empty stomach? You say you did this mostly at night, so I'm wondering how long after meals or snacking... When you get a chance would you please describe what you're doing with (digestive enzymes), as well as product source and maybe pointers to information you've found useful? I think either or both of these therapies may end up being part of my own path to recovery. Hey Mike- Sorry to take so long, been out of town for a few days. Yes, on empty stomach, 2 hours minimum after eating anything and preferably not having eaten too much at that time just to be sure. Sometimes 3-4 hours since I was really serious about getting the best effect of this. I did it at night merely because magnesium is calming and inducing of sleep and because some of these effects demanded being still. I have another reason for getting into enzymes. My wife has a breast lump that was not diagnosed as cancerous, but the surgeon tried to scare her into immediate surgery. We are limited in our options about that here especially because of medical mega-corporations moving into the area. So we're going alternative. Enzymes are part of what we're doing and I'm doing everything she's doing just on general principle. Besides, I have a few lumps and such scattered around and want to see what enzymes will do for them. There are many excellent enzymes out there, so many that it is confusing, but I was really impressed when Bragg's got into the act: www.braggzyme.com http://www.braggzyme.com/. It seems to me that Bragg's doesn't get into something that they don't totally believe in. I listened to the audio at that site by William Wong, over and over and decided this was for me. We ordered ours from Fubao Health Store in San Francisco and were pleased with their price and their free shipping deal over $99. Delivery was timely. My wife is eating raw Daikon Radish as part of her enzyme effort. Supposedly they help disperse fibro-tumors. We are also considering Lumbrokinase which is fairly new. I'd really like to hear from anyone who has taken it. Hope this helps, Bob/DaddyBob -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSBone Spur
Well of course if ya drink it straight. LOLTry putting it in a glass of juice it turns grape juice sort of like winey flavor. Once you reap the benefits you won't mind the taste a bit.But yes Dilute the stuff. zoe MaryAnn Helland wrote: Seriously? What did it taste like? I mean -- I tried tasting Apple Cider Vinegar once -- it was AWFUL! MA *From:* zoe w mtnwalke...@yahoo.co.uk *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com *Sent:* Wednesday, October 7, 2009 5:35:15 PM *Subject:* Re: CSBone Spur LOL, I drank it. 8-) MaryAnn Helland wrote: Ummm Zoe? After you put the cayenne pepper in the Bragg's Raw Apple Cider vinegar -- what exactly did you do with this stuff? MA **
Re: CS Native American stories--OT
My apologies, but I have never seen a list of rules. I just subscribed as outlined and the mail began to flo. No welcome message or anything so how were we to know? zoe Garnet wrote: The list rules prohibit religious discussions. It's a private list. Just because the list owner is away is no reason to disrespect the rules we agree to when we subscribe. Garnet http://www.ldndatabase/forum http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LDN_Information Dr Chris Steele, ITV's This Morning supporting LDN http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVpjsDK0LPA Bruce Anderson wrote: Dear Cindi: I am 72yoa. When I was in school most of the boys, and some of the girls, carried pocket knives. We whittled sticks, cut string, etc. and sometimes cut ourselves and the teacher might give us a band-aid. The serious offenses were running in the halls, chewing gum / talking in class and paper wads. NOW it's murder, stabbings, drugs, rape and assault and battery. But then, that is after they ask God to leave. This nation was founded on Judeo/Christian principles The Pledge of allegence contains one nation under God Even our money states In God we trust No one is required to be Christian or Jewish or to participate activity or observance of those groups. At least 80% of our citizens profess to be either Christian or Jewish, so we have at least as much right to express our opinions and be heard as the very vocal 20%. Both groups have the ability and right to turn away, turn it off, or hit the delete button. Bruce A. cyndiann wrote: Melly Bag wrote: It is insecurity at its best because we know some proud, selfish, greedy people are out to get the defenseless. But have no fear, we have a GOD who is watching over us if only we turn and pray to not ignore HIM. Schools were made to take away religion so our kids' consciences would be numb and when recruited by those in power will not have a conscience to bother them when orders are delivered. See? They execute without blinking an eyelash! Melly WTF? Please, lets not go there. There is so much wrong with this post. Religion has no place in schools or should I say putting one single religion in schools while ignoring the rest is wrong. People who are not christian do have a conscience and morals. Indeed, we aren't scared into being moral by a god that makes you afraid to be otherwise. I guess this post most of all lets us see what prejudice is about. Cyndi who wonders why this thread is still going -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CS Native American stories--OT
As has been noted on several occasions, that homepage no longer exists. zoe Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote: I think its on the silver list home page. dee On 5 Oct 2009, at 14:55, zoe w wrote: My apologies, but I have never seen a list of rules. I just subscribed as outlined and the mail began to flo. No welcome message or anything so how were we to know? zoe Garnet wrote: -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSSilver list at Eskimo
Anyone else feeling like an abandoned orphan? If the website is gone then its only a matter of time when they pull the email too I would think. Suggestions? zoe Dave Darrin wrote: This is what I got from Eskimo regarding the silver list! Dave The file is deceased. It is no longer. It has passed on. You can not have that file in this life! The file is dead, lifeless, departed, demised, late, extinct, no more. It has broken on through to the other side. Web Hosting http://www.eskimo.com/services/domains.html
Re: CSTHE COLORFUL HISTORY OF COLLOIDAL SILVER OTHER SILVER COMPOUNDS
The Silver Puppy is perfectly safe, have been using for several years, ingest 2-6 oz daily and sometimes more. I am not blue nor is anyone else who uses this that Im aware of. The article simply is stating some untruths and I challenge him to substantiate any of those remarks. zoe Lisa wrote: I read this article and it's quite interesting: however, it bothered me to read the following excerpt: The issue is complicated by the fact that not all colloidal silver products are of the same quality. Products made at home or by the use of electrical charges to ionize and suspend the silver are products not worth taking. They are typically clear in color, are lucky to have any potency after two weeks, and run a much higher risk for silver depositing in the skin (argyria). Does this mean that the Silver Puppy I just spent $150+ is producing less than optimal EIS/CS ??? AND on top of that it may cause argyria? I've been taking a shot glass worth every day (as my children are) to prevent any flu from entering the household. I was planning on doing this through November. Am I doing the right thing? Please, I'd like to hear some feedback regarding these matters Thx Lisa -Original Message- From: Hanneke [mailto:bloss...@internode.on.net] Sent: Monday, October 05, 2009 6:43 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSTHE COLORFUL HISTORY OF COLLOIDAL SILVER OTHER SILVER COMPOUNDS By Byron J. Richards, CCN October 3, 2009 NewsWithViews.com Colloidal silver is the product the FDA and many mainstream medical people love to hate. Listening to them you would think every person taking colloidal silver is going to turn gray with silver accumulation in their skin (argyria). Their worst nightmare is people taking colloidal silver to combat the H1N1 swine flu - the nightmare for them is that it might actually work. Since I am a health professional who has utilized colloidal silver in practice for more than 15 years with thousands of people, I'm more than happy to share some insights on the subject. For full article: http://www.newswithviews.com/Richards/byron184.htm --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 091004-0, 04/10/2009 Tested on: 6/10/2009 9:12:54 AM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2009 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRe: silver-digest Digest V2009 #623
Follow the money trail. If the writer stands to profit by you not making your own then take it with a grain of salt. The silver I make is at least 3 times as strong and the stuff I bought commercially before making my own, and the prices they charge seem totally unwarranted considering how inexpensive it is to make. JMHO zoe dave bermes wrote: It appears opinions vary. Which is accurate? I realize there are some very experienced users in this group. My friend was fortunate enough to have attended a Beck lecture years ago and he convinced me to use silver ever since and I believe it to be very helpful. I make my own as the good doctor instructed but I am concerned that possibly the silver that I make is less effective than the many retail products that I read of and that always discount the value of the home prepared silver. I joined this group to learn more from experts, which I am certainly not. This conflict troubles me. I am here to learn. dave - Original Message - From: silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com To: silver-dig...@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, October 05, 2009 6:36 PM Subject: silver-digest Digest V2009 #623 -- -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: FW: CSMMS and MRSA
Fantastic !!! Dianne France wrote: I sent this email this morning but it didn't show up so am resending. From: dianne_fra...@hotmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSMMS and MRSA Date: Sun, 4 Oct 2009 09:36:17 -0400 I called our friend this morning to check on her X's progress. She said he took a second dose of AMMS 15 drops and only had minor side effects. He said the side effects were nothing compared to what he had been going to. He not only had sores down his arm but on his head and neck. He had been to a walk in clinic and they looked at him and gave him a broad spectrum antibiotic and said if he wasn't better in 8 days to come back in. They also did a culture. A nurse that lives next door to him looked at him after he got home and said it was classic MRSA. That was when he called my friend. The nurse had told him to take pictures of the sores to document it because of the lack of care of the walk in clinic. His wife was going to but first needed to go into their office and pay their employees. She was gone several hours and during that time he kept putting CS on the sores and had taken the AMMS. By the time she got back the sores started to dry up. His color is back to normal with the AMMS and he plans to continue. The clinic got the labs back and has put eight urgent messages on his phone for him to call them because they probably now know if was MRSA and I'm not sure if they have to report that or not. Anyway, he said if he continues like he's going on the AMMS and CS by Monday he will be fine. Looks like the alternatives worked. My friend said she is now a believer. She said to thank the group for all the information they pass onyou guys do make a difference. Dianne Date: Sat, 3 Oct 2009 23:41:21 -0400 From: mtnwalke...@yahoo.co.uk To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSMMS and MRSA That is quite a testimony. Please keep us posted as to his progress. zoe Dianne France wrote: I talked to a friend today that had gotten a call from her X's wife saying he was very very sick (MRSA) and wanted to know if she had anything he could take to keep him from the hospital. I had recently given her some MMS for a fungus on her mule and she has been using CS also recently. She took both over there to him. She said he looked like death, not gray but a pasty clay color and had lumps down his arm. She couldn't believe he wasn't in the hospital. She had downloaded the on-line book on MMS and gave that to him, explained how to mix it and left a sprayer filled with cs for his arm. He was in bad shape and she was worried about being exposed herself. He sprayed his arm with CS and said it immediately felt better. He took 15 drops of AMMS. She was worried because she had never used MMS internally. She called this morning and talked to his wife to see how he was doing and she said he was 200% better and had gone to work. I was worried about the side effects of MMS (nausia/diarhria) at the 15 drop level without build up. I will be interested to see how this turns out but didn't know the MMS could work so fast on MRSA. I'm glad I just ordered more. Dianne Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service. Get it now. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/171222984/direct/01/ Your E-mail and More On-the-Go. Get Windows Live Hotmail Free. Sign up now. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/171222985/direct/01/ Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service. Get it now. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/171222984/direct/01/
Re: CSsubscribing
Looks like we still down. zoe Hanneke wrote: Has the mystery regarding going to the silverlist.org page to subscribe been cleared up yet. Was going to refer some people on to join the silverlist but I can't seem to find now how they should go about it. Anyone? Hanneke --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 091004-0, 04/10/2009 Tested on: 5/10/2009 9:29:16 AM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2009 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CS Bruce A
Thank you Bruce, Quite well stated. zoe Bruce Anderson wrote: Dear Cindi: I am 72yoa. When I was in school most of the boys, and some of the girls, carried pocket knives. We whittled sticks, cut string, etc. and sometimes cut ourselves and the teacher might give us a band-aid. The serious offenses were running in the halls, chewing gum / talking in class and paper wads. NOW it's murder, stabbings, drugs, rape and assault and battery. But then, that is after they ask God to leave. This nation was founded on Judeo/Christian principles The Pledge of allegence contains one nation under God Even our money states In God we trust No one is required to be Christian or Jewish or to participate activity or observance of those groups. At least 80% of our citizens profess to be either Christian or Jewish, so we have at least as much right to express our opinions and be heard as the very vocal 20%. Both groups have the ability and right to turn away, turn it off, or hit the delete button. Bruce A. cyndiann wrote: Melly Bag wrote: It is insecurity at its best because we know some proud, selfish, greedy people are out to get the defenseless. But have no fear, we have a GOD who is watching over us if only we turn and pray to not ignore HIM. Schools were made to take away religion so our kids' consciences would be numb and when recruited by those in power will not have a conscience to bother them when orders are delivered. See? They execute without blinking an eyelash! Melly WTF? Please, lets not go there. There is so much wrong with this post. Religion has no place in schools or should I say putting one single religion in schools while ignoring the rest is wrong. People who are not christian do have a conscience and morals. Indeed, we aren't scared into being moral by a god that makes you afraid to be otherwise. I guess this post most of all lets us see what prejudice is about. Cyndi who wonders why this thread is still going -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSDMSO and Chaga
Very Well known and respected. One of his students was My teacher. zoe Garnet wrote: Check out this website for information on herbs and making tinctures. Michael is highly respected and has trained many herbalists over the years as well as published many original works on herbal medicine. http://www.swsbm.com/homepage/ Garnet http://www.ldndatabase/forum http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LDN_Information Dr Chris Steele, ITV's This Morning supporting LDN http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVpjsDK0LPA Norton, Steve wrote: Peter, This may be best answered by Doug, Malcolm or Renee who have more tincture experience than I. The Chaga mushroom looks very interesting. Tincturing of muchrooms is common and in fact my first tincture was of a fungus because of the high cost of the commercial tincture. One problem of tincturing is determining the type of solvent the targeted substances are soluble in. Generally I prefer to extract all the components within an herb so I use an alcohol tincture that should extract both water and oil soluble components. More recently I have also used DMSO to help increase the boiavailibility of some substances that have a low bioavailibility. Also some substances are more soluble in DMSO although some are not. Finding the solubility of all the individual components within a plant is difficult if not sometimes impossible. Up till recently I used a water extraction, decoction, or alcohol or DMSO tincture. Lately I have been considering alcohol with DMSO in a single tincture but I don't for sure that that it is better. In answer to your question, DMSO can improve bioavailability esp with substances that have a lower biiavailability normally. It may not always be necessary but it won't hurt that I know of. I think that it might be good to use with Chaga given the large number of substances contained in it. - Steve N - Original Message - From: Peter Converse pconve...@primus.ca To: Malcolm s...@asis.com; silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sat Oct 03 10:24:43 2009 Subject: Re: CSDMSO and poke Hi Steve, Malcolm, Doug and all, I have been looking into a mushroom called Chaga lately which grows on birch trees primarily and in colder climates. It has a history of immune enhancement in Russia and has been used there to help in the recovery of cancer patients as well as as a preventative. Its properties can be better explained in the links below. I have read of several different ways to prepare it. I am wondering if Chaga tincture could be made with DMSO to help achieve good penetration as one might do with herbs. Any thoughts anyone? http://www.wholife.com/issues/9_4/03_article.html http://www.survivaltopics.com/survival/the-chaga-natures-medicinal-mushroom/ http://www.sunfood.com/buy/1/34/Chaga-Extract-Mushroom-Science-90-veg-caps-Wild-Crafted-1433.aspx http://www.raysahelian.com/chaga.html http://www.rogersmushrooms.com/gallery/DisplayBlock~bid~5349~gid~~source~gallerydefault.asp http://mushroom-collecting.com/mushroomchaga.html http://www.mushroomharvest.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=36_39products_id=161 http://www.mushroomharvest.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=36_39products_id=161 http://www.optimallyorganic.com/Chaga.htm?gclid=CLv4nZPSmZ0CFZJM5Qodhlg_3A http://www.premiumchaga.com/index.html http://www.chagatrade.ru/ http://www.mychaga.com/default.aspx http://www.mitobi.com/chaga.html Blessings, Peter -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSMMS and MRSA
That is quite a testimony. Please keep us posted as to his progress. zoe Dianne France wrote: I talked to a friend today that had gotten a call from her X's wife saying he was very very sick (MRSA) and wanted to know if she had anything he could take to keep him from the hospital. I had recently given her some MMS for a fungus on her mule and she has been using CS also recently. She took both over there to him. She said he looked like death, not gray but a pasty clay color and had lumps down his arm. She couldn't believe he wasn't in the hospital. She had downloaded the on-line book on MMS and gave that to him, explained how to mix it and left a sprayer filled with cs for his arm. He was in bad shape and she was worried about being exposed herself. He sprayed his arm with CS and said it immediately felt better. He took 15 drops of AMMS. She was worried because she had never used MMS internally. She called this morning and talked to his wife to see how he was doing and she said he was 200% better and had gone to work. I was worried about the side effects of MMS (nausia/diarhria) at the 15 drop level without build up. I will be interested to see how this turns out but didn't know the MMS could work so fast on MRSA. I'm glad I just ordered more. Dianne Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service. Get it now. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/171222984/direct/01/
Re: CS Native American stories--OT
Good for you Marshall, hopefully there are enuf others like you to change your states reputation amongst those of us who came smack up against the other side. For some reason it seems the negative elements are often the most visible. zoe Marshall Dudley wrote: zoe w wrote: I am so sorry you had to experience this. In my observations across the country anywhere you go in Tennessee seems to be this way. Please don't judge the rest of our beautiful country by this yardstick.My apologies to any Tennesseeans here who do not fit this pattern, this was my observation based on a cross country bus tour a couple years ago.I simply could not believe how different things are in that state. I am Tennessean and definitely do not feel that way. In fact I research material from a number of different tribes, primarily Hopi and Mayan, due to their rich heritage and stories. I am very interested in shamanism of any tribe. I have even attended dancing and drumming ceremonies, and tried to go to a sweat lodge, but my wife objected. The energies are wonderful. There will always be individuals who harbor resentment and animosity, but mostly they will keep it to themselves these days. We can perhaps have some control over how people act in public, but we cannot govern what they think.It would be wonderful if there were some magic pill or elixir that would make this all go away. I have at one time or another lived in just about every area in this land except for the great Northwest. In most of these areas great progress has been made not only towards blacks and indians but other minorities as well. Even so , one will always encounter certain individuals who carry on the old hateful ways. Perhaps in another 500 yrs or so. Its really seems kind of ridiculous these days when most of us are a conglomeration of many many cultures. It is time to show not tolerance, but acceptance and understanding. You may find with the changes coming, that will be changed by 2013. I sure hope so. Marshall My 2 cents worth. zoe Evans, Antonio F. wrote: Greetings all, my heritage includes Blackfoot Native Americans from a reservation at one point in South Carolina, Barbados descendants after slavery (Maternal side) and Colombian Natives, Panamanian Natives and Jamaican descendants from South America (Paternal side), I pass for a small deep brown skin African American male. I was just in Chattanooga Tennessee and the hate I felt from Caucasian men young, middle age and elderly was beyond belief in 2009. You could just feel hate in their stares and blocking our car from the gas pump. A young Caucasian male would not allow my friend, who is half Caucasian and African American, he could pass for a 6'2 moroccon Arab. We needed to fuel the car to head back to Washington DC, after visiting his Caucasian mother who works in the Alexian retirement Center in the mountains of Chattanooga, such a beautiful place with hatefulness all around, did I miss something or should this still be expected? Pardon my description just painting a mental picture for you all, I wish CS mixed with DMSO could harmonize this issue with some of the American family A. Evans/ Nanya Nufushu EL -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CS Native American stories--OT
Very well stated. Yes it is still happening today and in some ways its even worse than it was hundreds of years ago. But we have survived !!! Even tho not many pure bloods left, and most of us now of mixed ancestry, what little blood is left is very strong. The ancestors are speaking thru us and I find it all just amazing. AND we seem to be finding each other in the most unusual ways, as on this list. We shall not be forgotten, nor put in a cubbyhole for safe keeping. zoe Sandy wrote: Yes, Zoe...I know. I've tried to learn from the things that have come my way whether good or bad. If we learn to be better from the negative things then they in one respect are a positive learning experience. My father's negativity has taught me how to be a better parent...I will always be there for my children and they know that. I knew you all would understand what I was saying because we experience similar things. I guess the point I was making is...whether it happened hundreds of years ago it is still happening today and unless you are aware of how the NAs were treated most people would have no idea. Prejudice is terrible and I have hopes that one day it will be done away with but it will only happen through teaching the future generations not to practice it. Sandy --- On Wed, 9/30/09, zoe w mtnwalke...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: From: zoe w mtnwalke...@yahoo.co.uk Subject: Re: CS Native American stories--OT To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Wednesday, September 30, 2009, 6:47 PM Sorry hit the wrong button earlier. Sandy thanks so much for sharing your story. It is unfortunate, but many of us suffered similar torments.Hang on to that pride, it will carry you thru many a trial and tribulation. zoe zoe w wrote: Sandy wrote: My Great-Grandmother was full blood Apache but she died before I had the opportunity to meet her. My Mother used to tell us stories about Geronimo and the Superstition Mountains in Arizona, my mother's birth place. She took us to see the bluff [Medicine Bluff] where he and his horse jumped from into the Medicine River to get away from the US Calvary...he lived and did get away. My Mother was a half-breed and as a child when walking in Phoenix the white men would spit on her and her family and then they [the white people] would cross to the other side of the street so as to not be soiled by their presence. I lived with prejudice from within my own father's family [his mother did not want anything to do with us Native American brown skinned children]...even from my own father. Now that my Mother has passed on my father claims we are not Apache but he lies...my Mother was very proud of her heritage and wanted her children to be proud of it too and we are. Just thought I would share some of my Native American history. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSOT boron and borax
http://www.amazon.com/Bragg-Apple-Vinegar-gallon-liquid/dp/B000OP1W0S/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8s=hpcqid=1254395714sr=8-1 If this link doesn't work then just go to amazon.com and do a search on Braggs Apple Cider Vinegar.The one I bought is now 13.99 for the gallon and .99cents shipping Can't beat that. zoe Fuzzmom wrote: Yikes my store is lie 9 per bottle!!! How much is a gallon I imagine the shipping is out of this world? - Original Message - *From:* zoe w mailto:mtnwalke...@yahoo.co.uk *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com *Sent:* Wednesday, September 30, 2009 6:25 PM *Subject:* Re: CSOT boron and borax Amazon.com sells it by the gallon. zoe Roger and Lisa Royal wrote: Are you in the US? I buy ACV at the health food store or Kroger, etc. for about $4 per 16 oz. I only use about a tablespoon in his drinking water--maybe even half of that (1/2 tablespoon) Yes, you need the cloudy kind with the mother. - Original Message - *From:* Fuzzmom mailto:fuzzm...@frontier.com *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com *Sent:* Wednesday, September 30, 2009 12:34 PM *Subject:* Re: CSOT boron and borax Oh thank you will get..need about a gallon of it..and i assume youmean the raw cloudy type? where would I find a large amount the small bottles are expensive. - No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.14.0/2406 - Release Date: 09/30/09 18:56:00
Re: CS Native American stories--OT
Predjudice is born out of ignorance.Human beings tend to fear what they don't understand. Education is the key to understanding, but its a long slow arduous process. We make inroads in one area only to get slapped in the face in another. And Yes, NAs as you put it have saved our butts many many times. The Navajo code talkers for instance was the only code the Japanese couldn't break during WWII but look how they were treated until just recently. My ancestry lies on both sides of the fence so to speak as well as a few other fences so you will often see me referring to another side as mine. I travel all those roads with equal balance and I think it contributes to my understanding of the nature of things. zoe AHorse52251 wrote: Apparently I have lived a much-too-sheltered life. I was not aware that there was such prejudice against NAs. I'm sorry. I look at things a bit backward from the rest of the world anyway. I remember as a child my mother was explaining to me how the Jews were hated and what Hitler had done. My question was why did people hate the Jews when it should be the Germans that were hated? Of course, no one nationality should be *hated* for anything. That would be like throwing the baby out with the bath water. It can be hard, however...especially when it seems a whole country backs the craziness. I wonder how many times NAs have saved our white butts... Janis --- On Wed, 9/30/09, Sandy hollis302...@yahoo.com wrote: -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSsubscribing address
One would think. Has anyone heard from Mike? zoe sol wrote: zoe w wrote: It would appear that the silverlist website is down. All we have now is the eskimo.com main page. Hopefully this is temporary and will be back up soon. Well that worries me, I have no confidence in eskimo. A site being down or temporarily unavailable doesn't usually disappear the links to that site Shouldn't there still be links to the silverlist subcribing info at either eskimo or at www.silvermedicine.org which is where it always used to be? sol -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CS Native American stories--OT
Fantastic Story Kathryn and not unlike my own. My favorite quip is that some of my ancestors came here on a boat and the rest were on the shore to greet them. :) Yes my French ancestors arrived here in 1685- French Hugonauts(sp) fleeing from certain execution. But after 3 generations they were no longer French, only the name survived. And there is more. Anyone with French and Indian ancestry is also most likely black as they were close allies. Almost no one in my family wants to own up to this even tho the geneology report verifies.I have a picture of one of my great grandfathers and aside from being very Indian his skin was unusually dark and his features reminiscent of West Indian. Those few of us who did embrace this part of our heritage were quickly ostracized by the rest of our family, so you see prejudice is not just out there we have it right within our family. None of us ever lived on a reservation nor do we wish to. We passed and got away with it. ( OOOPS I take that back. My grandpas oldest brother did go to a Reservation and lived out his days there thats a story for another time) Interestingly on the 1880 Census every member of that family was listed as mulatto. By 1920 they had all moved to an adjoining county and these same people are now listed as white and have been ever since. When having to fill out the question of nationality I no longer claim either white or native american but always check other and let them guess. LOL Tis the Indian side tho that tugs at my heartstrings and I live as close to the earth as is humanly possible in this day and age. At 65 I found myself a mountain man and left my home to move to his mountain and live off the land, etc. Quite a change and except for the isolation I love it. zoe Clayton Family wrote: My NA ancestors chose to not go to a res- they feared extermination once all were corralled, which is what happened over and over, but happily not in all places. They moved West, which they said had much less hatred for blood and much more respect for the individual and his accomplishments; they intermarried, and by the time my grandmother was growing up, she was told she was part Cherokee, but to keep it a secret or it would be very bad. She had that lovely olive skin, which I have also been blessed with. As she taught languages, esp Spanish, she could pass for European. I also have some Cheyenne and some Canawaka. My ancestors found love to be the most important thing, so did not pay much attention to the issues of heritage. Sometimes I feel the loss of that heritage. I saw on PBS a man who paid money to have his blood analyzed by a genetic company, and it was found he was mainly NA. This was something he never knew, he looked Irish, and his family said he was Irish, none of the current generation knew anything about it. He started attending the powwows, and enjoying his newly found connection. I think if we looked into it in that kind of detail, we would see that most of us came from somewhere else at one time, it is only human nature to move around, fall in love, and put in new roots in a new place. If one's family has been on this continent long enough, it is probable that one has some NA ancestry. After all, in the 1600's, there were not many Europeans to marry, and with a growing population it is only natural to intermarry. In my family, we have ancestors that have fought in every war and on every side- so who is to judge who is right or wrong? It is important to honor everyone. One thing is we are taught to stand up for what we believe in, after thinking about if it is true, is it necessary, is it kind? In a hundred years, what will happen if we follow this course of action- will it be good or bad? Many things will not matter at all, so best not to put too much attention there. What is funny to me, is that living in Mn, everyone thinks I am from some foreign country, but my husband who has much more NA blood than I do, looks totally white. It does come in very handy when travel abroad, though, I fit in just about everywhere I go, as long as I don't open my mouth- lol Cheers, Kathryn On Oct 1, 2009, at 6:10 AM, zoe w wrote: Very well stated. Yes it is still happening today and in some ways its even worse than it was hundreds of years ago. But we have survived !!! Even tho not many pure bloods left, and most of us now of mixed ancestry, what little blood is left is very strong. The ancestors are speaking thru us and I find it all just amazing. AND we seem to be finding each other in the most unusual ways, as on this list. We shall not be forgotten, nor put in a cubbyhole for safe keeping. zoe Sandy wrote: Yes, Zoe...I know. I've tried to learn from the things that have come my way whether good or bad. If we learn to be bett -- The Silver List
CSRAW Almonds in California
Marshall, Its the ALMONDS that are being Pasteurized NOT the Apricots. And since California controls virtually 100% of the almond market its a mess. Not only that they are allowed to sell the pasteurized almonds with a RAW label. Can you believe this? So raw almonds are not raw any more and haven't been for a couple of years. There is a loophole in that law however. The actual farmer is allowed to sell direct to the consumer Un-pasteurized almonds so this is how most of us are getting them. Its only when there is a middle-man involved that they have to be pasteurized. Check online for your sources. Truly Raw almonds are now sold as Un-Pasteurized. And there are two acceptable methods of pasteurization-ONE of them involves radiationand still they tell us this is SAFE. I don't think so, not for one minute. Its just one more way of removing our Healthy foods from us, in an attempt to prevent us from being healthy.A quick trip to Google will verify all the above for you. zoe Marshall Dudley wrote: It is my understanding that you have to be careful on the apricot pits ( bitter almonds ) now. Either California or the FDA started requiring them to be heated to destroy the enzyme that kills cancer, so others started advertising that they were raw, which I understand they are not allowed to do either now. You may want to talk to the supplier privately to find out if they are raw or not. They must be raw to be of any use. Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRAW Almonds in California-UPDATE
It has just come to my attention that the laws have changed again, since my last purchase. Apparently they found a way to close up that loophole. Please read below if you are interested. If not hit the Delete button http://www.california-almonds.com/tell-me-about-pasteurization/info_11.html Recently there has been much confusion in the popular press regarding the requirement of pasteurization of Almonds. We are asked over and over if our Almonds are pasteurized. _*Important News About Our Shippable 2008 Almond Crop !*_ DS Ranches, an Orchard Grower in the San Joaquin Valley of California, has an Important Announcement to make regarding Pasteurization of our Naturally Grown California Almonds! After the Almond Board Rule went into effect we began to extensively research the Best, most Non-Intrusive methods available to reduce bacteria on the skin of the nut without affecting the nut meat itself. _*The Good News:*_ The Good news is that we have found a process that does just that ! This method was developed for the Spices Food Group where any alteration or destruction of the interior of the nut or spice kernel would destroy the delicate value of the item. As it turns out we were able to get this technology approved for application on our Selma California Grown Nut Crop! * _*How It Works: *_ * The process is very expensive and requires the latest in production technology. It is centered on Water Based Botanical Principles. We call this process H20-UN-Pasteurization. The almonds are held in a chamber that draws down the air to a vacuum, so all the air born bacteria and pathogens are removed from the chamber, then a computer controlled mist of sterile distilled water dry stream is injected in to the chamber. This steam is computer controlled and balanced against the known weight of each nut. As the small amount of Steam condenses on the skin of the nut it transfers only minimal heat energy just to the surface it contacts! The nut meat is never heated internally! * After the dry steam injection, a 4 to 6 second process, the chamber is then evacuated again causing the condensed purified water to evaporate from the skin of the nut. Next the chamber is brought back to normal conditions with HEPA Filtered Air. * This process preserves the internal natural balance of enzymes, amino acids, proteins, and most importantly it preserves the natural living nature of the nut! You can sprout these Almonds ! * We are sure you will be very satisfied with this process, and as far as we know we are the only Ranch Direct Almond Grower in the San Joaquian Valley of California that is using this expensive, and time consuming process, so that we may bring you the very finest in US Graded Fancy #1 California Almonds ! _*Please beware of other processes:*_ We are concerned that there are a good number of other processes out there that are very inferior and some are outright dangerous! The most common is simple autoclave sterilization and this is, essentially, just cooking the nut. After an autoclave process, the nut is no longer living, it is dead, and all the valuable nutrients of the nut have been cooked and destroyed. Unfortunately the Almond Board, under pressure from the Big Almonds Handlers, Processors and Growers are calling and labeling these nuts as RAW ! They ARE NOT RAW! They are COOKED ! Other processes are using PPO (Propylene Oxide Gas). You should never, every under any circumstances eat nuts exposed to PPO Gas. PPO is a known carcinogen (causes cancer). It is toxic and poisonous!.. The European Union (EU) has prohibited the use of PPO Gas on any Human Food Product. The USDA and the FDA still allow it. Inquire with your store if their nuts have been exposed to PPO ! Make sure you know! This is serious business. Marshall, Its the ALMONDS that are being Pasteurized NOT the Apricots. And since California controls virtually 100% of the almond market its a mess. Not only that they are allowed to sell the pasteurized almonds with a RAW label. Can you believe this? So raw almonds are not raw any more and haven't been for a couple of years.
Re: CSOT boron and borax
We had two things we used in our eyes when I was growing up. One was Boric Acid, the other was Witch Hazel. and yes This was standard protocol. zoe Marshall Dudley wrote: My dad was a pharmacist, and I can recall him mixing up boric acid for eye drops many times back in the 50's. That was it seems standard protocol for eye inflammations. Marshall Melly Bag wrote: Thanks for the valuable information Marshall. I was always afraid of boric acid in the eyes. melly -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CS Native American stories--OT
Right On !Ownership of anything particularly the land, was not a concept they understood at all. zoe Marshall Dudley wrote: Sandy wrote: Hi Donna... It is sad the way some people treat others but if we learn from it [in a good way] then we will teach our children not to be prejudice. The man who refused to buy a horse from your Grandfather shows how little he knew because it is a well known fact the Cherokee have a wonderful way with horses. I suspect that the problem was the reputation long ago that Native Americans were what became termed Indian Givers. That is that they would give you something, then later want it back. The problem was the difference in culture, from what I understand, many Indian tribes were communal, and personal ownership of items was not done on many things, they belonged to the tribe to be freely used by whoever needed it. A brave could be in possession of something, and if another one needed it more, he would give it to him. When the situation reversed, so did the transfer. But the Europeans misinterpreted interpreted the giving of something to them as a gift, forever. It was really a big unfortunate misunderstanding. Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSDMSO and poke- polo
polo wrote: Well, this is exactly the reason why many herbs have multiple medical indications. Plants are not refined, single drugs, but a package of many chemical compounds which work together to make that unique plant viable. When one prescribes a whole herb extract, a whole series of extracted components are being given to the patient, not one. Luckily, most of these plant compounds are synergistic and will often improve the medicinal values of the complete plant extract as a remedy. As is the nature of the beast, that extract can have multiple uses and influences on varied metabolic functions. Nature provides its own balance,When you extract a chemical or component you have lost that balance. This is why there are so few side-effects from whole herb products as compared to pharmaceuticals.Whatever you need to balance the effects is already contained in that same plant.This has been known for centuries, but they never ever learn. Thank you for all the good info on pokeweed. It grows wild around here but I was unable to find any useful information about it. zoe ' -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRAW Almonds in California
That is good news indeed, since I consider apricot kernels a first defense against cancer. Marshall Yes, but don't speak too loudly or they will find a way to take them away from us too. zoe -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSOT boron and borax
I haven't seen it for years but Im sure its still around somewhere if you know where to look. Perhaps a feed store. All i use now is CS and that seems to be all I need. zoe Clayton Family wrote: yes, that is what I remember too. But the witch hazel was the kind without alcohol in it. I am not sure it is still available. Kathryn On Oct 1, 2009, at 1:13 PM, zoe w wrote: We had two things we used in our eyes when I was growing up. One was Boric Acid, the other was Witch Hazel. and yes This was standard protocol. zoe -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRAW Almonds in California
Hmmm, not heard that one but worth checking into, just in case. z Garnet wrote: Don't apple seeds have the same anti-cancer components? I hear of people eating them for this reason. Garnet zoe w wrote: That is good news indeed, since I consider apricot kernels a first defense against cancer. Marshall Yes, but don't speak too loudly or they will find a way to take them away from us too. zoe -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CS Native American stories--OT
I am so sorry you had to experience this. In my observations across the country anywhere you go in Tennessee seems to be this way. Please don't judge the rest of our beautiful country by this yardstick.My apologies to any Tennesseeans here who do not fit this pattern, this was my observation based on a cross country bus tour a couple years ago.I simply could not believe how different things are in that state. There will always be individuals who harbor resentment and animosity, but mostly they will keep it to themselves these days. We can perhaps have some control over how people act in public, but we cannot govern what they think.It would be wonderful if there were some magic pill or elixir that would make this all go away. I have at one time or another lived in just about every area in this land except for the great Northwest. In most of these areas great progress has been made not only towards blacks and indians but other minorities as well. Even so , one will always encounter certain individuals who carry on the old hateful ways. Perhaps in another 500 yrs or so. Its really seems kind of ridiculous these days when most of us are a conglomeration of many many cultures. It is time to show not tolerance, but acceptance and understanding. My 2 cents worth. zoe Evans, Antonio F. wrote: Greetings all, my heritage includes Blackfoot Native Americans from a reservation at one point in South Carolina, Barbados descendants after slavery (Maternal side) and Colombian Natives, Panamanian Natives and Jamaican descendants from South America (Paternal side), I pass for a small deep brown skin African American male. I was just in Chattanooga Tennessee and the hate I felt from Caucasian men young, middle age and elderly was beyond belief in 2009. You could just feel hate in their stares and blocking our car from the gas pump. A young Caucasian male would not allow my friend, who is half Caucasian and African American, he could pass for a 6'2 moroccon Arab. We needed to fuel the car to head back to Washington DC, after visiting his Caucasian mother who works in the Alexian retirement Center in the mountains of Chattanooga, such a beautiful place with hatefulness all around, did I miss something or should this still be expected? Pardon my description just painting a mental picture for you all, I wish CS mixed with DMSO could harmonize this issue with some of the American family A. Evans/ Nanya Nufushu EL -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CS Native American stories--OT
Excellent advice, you were lucky to have that kind of upbringing. zoe zzekel...@aol.com wrote: After reading all of the different stories here--two important things come to my mindAs a child when topics concerning race came up--- my Mom Dad would say--We all bleed the same color blood-- If I ever got upset about breaking something They would say to me -- It didn't bleed which meant of course it was not that important... Lois In a message dated 10/1/2009 10:10:54 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, clay...@skypoint.com writes: My NA ancestors chose to not go to a res- they feared extermination once all were corralled, which is what happened over and over, but happily not in all places. They moved West, which they said had much less hatred for blood and much more respect for the individual and his accomplishments; they intermarried, and by the time my grandmother was growing up, she was told she was part Cherokee, but to keep it a secret or it would be very bad. She had that lovely olive skin, which I have also been blessed with. As she taught languages, esp Spanish, she could pass for European. I also have some Cheyenne and some Canawaka. My ancestors found love to be the most important thing, so did not pay much attention to the issues of heritage. Sometimes I feel the loss of that heritage. I saw on PBS a man who paid money to have his blood analyzed by a genetic company, and it was found he was mainly NA. This was something he never knew, he looked Irish, and his family said he was Irish, none of the current generation knew anything about it. He started attending the powwows, and enjoying his newly found connection. I think if we looked into it in that kind of detail, we would see that most of us came from somewhere else at one time, it is only human nature to move around, fall in love, and put in new roots in a new place. If one's family has been on this continent long enough, it is probable that one has some NA ancestry. After all, in the 1600's, there were not many Europeans to marry, and with a growing population it is only natural to intermarry. In my family, we have ancestors that have fought in every war and on every side- so who is to judge who is right or wrong? It is important to honor everyone. One thing is we are taught to stand up for what we believe in, after thinking about if it is true, is it necessary, is it kind? In a hundred years, what will happen if we follow this course of action- will it be good or bad? Many things will not matter at all, so best not to put too much attention there. What is funny to me, is that living in Mn, everyone thinks I am from some foreign country, but my husband who has much more NA blood than I do, looks totally white. It does come in very handy when travel abroad, though, I fit in just about everywhere I go, as long as I don't open my mouth- lol Cheers, Kathryn On Oct 1, 2009, at 6:10 AM, zoe w wrote: Very well stated. Yes it is still happening today and in some ways its even worse than it was hundreds of years ago. But we have survived !!! Even tho not many pure bloods left, and most of us now of mixed ancestry, what little blood is left is very strong. The ancestors are speaking thru us and I find it all just amazing. AND we seem to be finding each other in the most unusual ways, as on this list. We shall not be forgotten, nor put in a cubbyhole for safe keeping. zoe Sandy wrote: Yes, Zoe...I know. I've tried to learn from the things that have come my way whether good or bad. If we learn to be bett -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSOT boron and borax
Borax does kill the fleas but not the eggs which is why you have to do it again in a few days. Twice was all I needed to get permanent riddance. zoe Kirsteen Wright wrote: I've also heard it's good for fleas? Is it? ive tried Everything..diatomaceous earth works some but not very fast and i am allergic to them. I don't know about that but the herb pennyroyal works great for fleas. I don't think it kills them but they hate it so if you manage to get rid of them, it keeps them away. We used to regularly get flleas until i discovered it, as the cats would bring them in. After that, I always spread some dried pennyroyal on the mattressess under the sheets and this kept the beds free. I'd also sprinkle some on the floors and then sweep it into the cracks in the floorboards (we had varnished floors). I'd then rub the herb over myself and take the cat outside and rub pennyroyal through it's coat. The cat didn't mind but you could literally see clouds of fleas leaping off it. good luck Kirsteen
Re: CSSeptic Tank Safety
;-) Kirsteen Wright wrote: 2009/9/30 zoe w mtnwalke...@yahoo.co.uk mailto:mtnwalke...@yahoo.co.uk http://groups.yahoo.com/group/IPLStories/ Wonderful collections of stories here, some old, some new. Thank you for this link. i have only just joined and already am entranced reading the posts. Thank you Kirsteen
Re: CSOT boron and borax
I just spread the powder on the carpeting and dogs bedding and left it there, Next week did the same thing.Once the fleas were gone I swept it all up. They never came back. If you are allergic then why not stay with friends until this job is finished? zoe Fuzzmom wrote: Please tell me how you get permanent riddence I am s allergic I can't sleep and the sprays dips etc do nothing. - Original Message - *From:* zoe w mailto:mtnwalke...@yahoo.co.uk *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com *Sent:* Wednesday, September 30, 2009 5:27 AM *Subject:* Re: CSOT boron and borax Borax does kill the fleas but not the eggs which is why you have to do it again in a few days. Twice was all I needed to get permanent riddance. zoe Kirsteen Wright wrote: I've also heard it's good for fleas? Is it? ive tried Everything..diatomaceous earth works some but not very fast and i am allergic to them. I don't know about that but the herb pennyroyal works great for fleas. I don't think it kills them but they hate it so if you manage to get rid of them, it keeps them away. We used to regularly get flleas until i discovered it, as the cats would bring them in. After that, I always spread some dried pennyroyal on the mattressess under the sheets and this kept the beds free. I'd also sprinkle some on the floors and then sweep it into the cracks in the floorboards (we had varnished floors). I'd then rub the herb over myself and take the cat outside and rub pennyroyal through it's coat. The cat didn't mind but you could literally see clouds of fleas leaping off it. good luck Kirsteen No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.114/2402 - Release Date: 09/29/09 05:54:00
Re: CSSnails and moles
We used to put out jar lids full of beer for the slugs, not sure if it works on snails but worth a try. An adult gopher-snake will take care of the mole and any others that may take up residence. They also eat gophers, voles, shrews, etc. zoe Jayson wrote: Can anyone tell me if they have any non-toxic ways of getting rid of both of these garden pests! My girl friend has cats they like to lay any where, and every where. And I don't like the idea of poison in my food from residues that might up-take into, or get on our veggies. Thanks for any idea's that might help with these two problems we are dealing with! -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSOT boron and borax
Good Point. Perhaps the ACV is the best solution for you. zoe Fuzzmom wrote: Um..and then who'd watch the dogs? - Original Message - *From:* zoe w mailto:mtnwalke...@yahoo.co.uk *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com *Sent:* Wednesday, September 30, 2009 6:58 AM *Subject:* Re: CSOT boron and borax
Re: CS Native American stories--
It is good that you are that sensitive. Yes if you listen closely you can still hear them whisper. I am hardpressed to find any place on this continent that wasn't once either a campground or huntingground or otherwise steeped in the history of one tribe or another.Sleeping out under the stars used to put me in touch with the ancestors, wish I could still do that sort of thing.I can still sit in the woods by myself and get tuned in that way. zoe zzekel...@aol.com wrote: In a message dated 9/30/2009 12:22:30 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, mtnwalke...@yahoo.co.uk writes: Lois, Most of the stories told by my Grandpa were very personal family stories that would have no meaning to outsiders. Ours have been preserved and are being passed down to successive generations of which there are three beyond myself so far.If you are looking for the generic, creation, myth stories there is a place you can go. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/IPLStories/ Wonderful collections of stories here, some old, some new. zoe zoe, I think it is great you are preserving the stories... I am not looking for generic, have read many of them. I live in the land of the Senecas. One of their camps was within walking distance of where I live in Letchworth State Park. It is almost as if I can sense their presence here in my woods. It is said that their winter camp was in this woods. I just appreciate their history abhor what was done to them.. Lois
Re: CS Native American stories--OT
Im glad you are enjoying the stories. zoe AHorse52251 wrote: Zoe, Thank you for posting the group! I am sorry to say I am not a sensitive person, tuned into things around me. I wish I were. I can certainly agree with Lois in what was done to the people native to this country. There *should* have been white bodies hanging from trees all across this country for what the white man did, IMO. No other minority had annihilation attempted on them in this country that I ever heard of. OK, I'll get off my soapbox, not that I want to... Thanks again. I joined and look foreward to the stories! Janis --- On Wed, 9/30/09, zoe w mtnwalke...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: From: zoe w mtnwalke...@yahoo.co.uk Subject: Re: CS Native American stories-- To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Wednesday, September 30, 2009, 1:46 PM It is good that you are that sensitive. Yes if you listen closely you can still hear them whisper. I am hardpressed to find any place on this continent that wasn't once either a campground or huntingground or otherwise steeped in the history of one tribe or another.Sleeping out under the stars used to put me in touch with the ancestors, wish I could still do that sort of thing.I can still sit in the woods by myself and get tuned in that way. zoe zzekel...@aol.com wrote: In a message dated 9/30/2009 12:22:30 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, mtnwalke...@yahoo.co.uk writes: Lois, Most of the stories told by my Grandpa were very personal family stories that would have no meaning to outsiders. Ours have been preserved and are being passed down to successive generations of which there are three beyond myself so far.If you are looking for the generic, creation, myth stories there is a place you can go. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/IPLStories/ Wonderful collections of stories here, some old, some new. zoe zoe, I think it is great you are preserving the stories... I am not looking for generic, have read many of them. I live in the land of the Senecas. One of their camps was within walking distance of where I live in Letchworth State Park. It is almost as if I can sense their presence here in my woods. It is said that their winter camp was in this woods. I just appreciate their history abhor what was done to them.. Lois -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSOT boron and borax
Amazon.com sells it by the gallon. zoe Roger and Lisa Royal wrote: Are you in the US? I buy ACV at the health food store or Kroger, etc. for about $4 per 16 oz. I only use about a tablespoon in his drinking water--maybe even half of that (1/2 tablespoon) Yes, you need the cloudy kind with the mother. - Original Message - *From:* Fuzzmom mailto:fuzzm...@frontier.com *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com *Sent:* Wednesday, September 30, 2009 12:34 PM *Subject:* Re: CSOT boron and borax Oh thank you will get..need about a gallon of it..and i assume youmean the raw cloudy type? where would I find a large amount the small bottles are expensive. -
