RE: [RCSE] hello....is anybody out there?
Not to worry Gordy. I KNOW they will NEVER be able to silence you. It would be impossible. YOU WILL FIND A WAY, trust me on that one old boy. Lucky for us, Cliff Lindgren _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 10:25 PM To: Soaring@airage.com Subject: [RCSE] hellois anybody out there? So how will we communicate now? As in letting everyone know about contests, for sale goodies, finding each other during a visit? Any suggestions? I suppose we'll have to surf the topics, nooks and crannies of RC Antonymous (er Groups?) Or set up something on the new Blog spot. Gordy _ It's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find your travel deal http://information.travel.aol.com/deals?ncid=aoltrv000547 here.
RE: [RCSE] Migrating
But...but Gordy Soar was such a cute name! -Original Message- From: Jim Deck [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 8:10 AM To: RCSE Subject: [RCSE] Migrating Here's something to consider when migrating to a replacement for RCSE. One of the strengths of RCSE was that we all used our real names, not cutesy-poo nam de plumes. Let's continue that practice in what ever forum we wind up in. Jim Deck RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
RE: [RCSE] I took a quarter off Dave Hauch tonite...You?
I personally didn't get to fly today. I did fondle some of my gliders though. I moved them from one storage area to another. It was loads of fun. Anybody needing a picture or two, email me privately I'll send lots of them. Cliff Lindgren PS I'm here you're not, just thought everyone would want to know. _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 8:34 PM To: Soaring@airage.com Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [RCSE] I took a quarter off Dave Hauch tonite...You? Hi guys! Dave invited me over to his magnificent flying site today to do some soaring. The conditions started out kind of hot but a light breeze kicked in and things got really comfortable. Dave and I put up about a dozen flights each, shooting for 10min flights and of course with a landing tape too ...which led to a landing for quarters challenge! I should have known better, because Dave is an excellent stick and practices a lot too. He hit 95+ landings most of the evening! I managed one perfect 100 dead on the second to finish off a 10min flightno skeg even! I was flying the Sharon, and he was flying the Shadow...I have to tell you I was very much impressed with how the Shadow launched! Dave has an auto-launcher, with is a bit spooky to use at first but you quickly realize that it doesn't make a mistake and the model is really moving from the moment the mechanism decided to let the winch line take possession of the model. I got a chance to peek at his inner sanctum (shop where he builds all your guys sailplanes). ...super tidy, I guess that's why his builds are so perfect! A fun day had by all. Thanks Dave! Gordy Next stop the contest in Lansing this weekend...er I mean more beaches ;-) _ Get the scoop on last night's hottest shows and the live music scene in your area - Check out http://www.tourtracker.com?NCID=aolmus0005000112 TourTracker.com!
RE: [RCSE] DVDs For free
Another test that has passed with flying colors. Congratulations. Keep up the good work there Pal. Cliff Lindgren Benevolent Dictator, CEO, King, Premier, My Lord, Sir, President Chairman of the Board. - LINDEX -Original Message- From: Little Scotty Hewett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2007 5:51 AM To: Pal Naton; soaring@airage.com Subject: Re: [RCSE] DVDs For free test - Original Message - From: Cliff Lindgren [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pal Naton [EMAIL PROTECTED]; soaring@airage.com Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2007 5:45 AM Subject: Re: [RCSE] DVDs For free Automated reply: Unsubscribe Cliff Lindgren Benevolent Dictator, CEO, King, Premier, My Lord, Sir, President Chairman of the Board. - LINDEX - Original Message From: Pal Naton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: soaring@airage.com Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 7:44:23 AM Subject: [RCSE] DVDs For free Santa Sale Yes, 10 FREE DVD's are yours if you order 2 or more movies, offer good ONLY until Dec 25th. Any 3 for $4.95, get a tenth FREE! Any 5 for $.95, get twelve FREE! Jump on this boys! Boys? Did I say Boys? No offense there Boys. Happy Holidays. Pal Naton Producers of High Quality Silent Flight DVDs http://www.radiocarbonart.com Tel: 541-752-9661 Visa/Mastercard Accepted RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Field voltage tester
Please send any info as to what you feel is the best voltage/load tester for use at the slope to check receiver battery packs. Thanks in advance. Willie Rich Shagnasti Ol ManRay RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
RE: [RCSE] Foamies versus Glass Slippers
Hi Scott, Yes I was there. Of course that is old news and Im sure all parties involved have resolved the issue.I think. Yes, I believe there was some chatter regarding banning foam gliders from flying simultaneously with the expensive glass gliders. Most folks will exercise respect and courtesy when the two are in the same airspace by landing. Others with no regard or through pure ignorance usually will not have a clue and continue flying on. I have heard that some have found that a sharp little tap on the head with a tire iron usually has the desired effect on these individuals. Butthere is always the thick skulled where nothing seemingly works. They are hopelessly beyond reasoning with and are just to dunce. There are other methods I have heard used on these individuals with limited success, that I wont elaborate on, via this forum. Hope this helps you. Cliff Lindgren From: Scott Hewett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2005 7:23 AM To: Cliff Lindgren Subject: Fw: [RCSE] Foamies versus Glass Slippers - Original Message - From: Scott Hewett To: soaring@airage.com Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2005 7:20 AM Subject: [RCSE] Foamies versus Glass Slippers I recall an incident at Soar Utah 2002 whereby some bozo flying an out-of-control foamy took out a pristine scratch built fiberglass airliner. Has Soar Utah put any rules into effect that will prevent future incidents of that sort, such as banning foamies? Can anyone provide more details of that incident? Thanks
Re: [RCSE] What you can do now.
John Roe, the man of many names. Sir, I am outraged at all of the events of the past week. I am also outraged at your stereotyping/slashing out, at all of the good Americans that live in the East Bay area with your un-called for comments. It is with this similar mind-set that some American Muslims are being persecuted now. I have many wonderful friends that hail from there and I can assure you they are decent people. I would highly recommend, that if you, with your current name of "Quiet Man" wish to come off as a person of intelligence that you refrain from using such a broad brush. I think the name of "Silent Man" would be more to our liking and should be considered by you. "Its better to be a fool and remain "silent" than to open your mouth and remove all doubt." What you, can "do now", is be an "Honorable Man" and apologize. Cliff Lindgren Quiet Man wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >A Call for Support of our National Guard and Reserve Forces Families - September 2001 snip> >These are small but real steps you can take to help your community and country. >Reach out, touch lives, and make a difference. John- Thank you for posting this. By far the best and most important use of an otherwise utterly frivolous and often banal and self-absorbed list such as this, is the dissemination of important and meaningful information such as your post. Thanks again I intend to pass along and act upon your message. John Roe, USA p.s. Any Californians from the Oakland/Berkely district RECALL that treasonous bitch, Barbara Hill...the ONLY member of the entire US Congress to vote against responding to the attack on New York and the Pentagon and the defeated attack on the Capitol. Of course that's par for the course for that sick part of California... Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? Donate cash, emergency relief information in Yahoo! News.
[RCSE] ISR-update
Congratulations to the gentleman from the south for his first place finish (I didn't get his name) and to Dave Reese (producer of Lift Ticket, the best soaring movie to date) who got a hot 2nd and Craig Toutolmin for his 3rd place finish. Dave Craig are both No. Cal F3F flyers and all of their practice at Los Banos proved to pay off today. Today's rounds were flown in 30 plus winds out of the Northwest. Yesterday was disappointing with light winds out of the South which does not work for Big Creek/Davenport. There was lots of carnage and some were spectacular to say the least. Dave flew a Diamond and Craig flew one of his slick home-brews. There was a great turnout and I'll let someone else fill you in on all the details. Cliff Lindgren RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Lift Ticket video
No! Please buy directly from Dave Reese at [EMAIL PROTECTED]. He worked long and hard on this project, the best damn RC glider/slope/DS/PSS/Foamie movie to date (Hands down). This ain't no "down stream video". This is the only movie that will get you all jazzed up about flying in the middle of winter when there is no flying to be had. You will not doze off, you will be inspired, you will want to build new gliders for the upcoming season, you will watch it time and time again and see something new each time you do. The now infamous "Golden Gate Smoke Run" by none other than sky burning Scott Hewett with his "Higgins F-20" is worth the price of the video alone. The man worked hard and long on this project and it shows. It is not like other videos that have been "thrown together" and then placed on the market to see what the market will bear. This is entertainment/education in its purest form and should be rewarded. The Europeans are going nuts over this thing! Obviously they know quality when they see it. Buy directly from Dave. He has a couple of other projects in planning that I guarantee, will be even better productions. I can hardly wait! Cliff Lindgren Jim Miller wrote: www.radiocarbonart.com - Original Message - From: "Dieter @ ShredAir" [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2001 7:34 PM Subject: Re: [RCSE] Lift Ticket video > > >The best place is Shredair (www.shredair.com) simply because they are some of > >the nicest folks in soaring :-)~ > > > >Bill Gillis > >Reno, NV > > > Actually, get it from Dave Reese ([EMAIL PROTECTED]), he's almost as > nice as we are... :o) > > We sold his video at SWC, only because Dave himself couldn't make it. > > Dieter > RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] Electronic question
Being electronicly challenged I need to have a question answered. If anyone would care to take a stab at a question I have I would love to hear from you off line. Thanks Cliff Lindgren RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] is this thing on? NO it is DEAD
Carbon fiber implant I hear. Skip Richards wrote: On Tue, 30 Jan 2001 02:39:46 EST, Del wrote: SNIP... Don't flame me I have been drooped again. And each time someone gets drooped they loose interest in some of the threads or are tuned out by not being able to keep up with those things that are of interest to them. Out for now. Del I heard about a guy that got drooped... he got some medical help and he's fine now... sorry, couldn't resist... ;) RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Dirty Pot??
Smoke somethink about it for awhile and it'll come to you. Don't know if it'll work but it won't bother you if it doesn't. C.L. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just got off the phone with Hitec support - service guy said that it sounds like a dirty pot. Any suggestions on how to clean this servo's pot while glued into a hollow molded plane?? Tech suggested moving the servo full throw back and forth for about 5-10 min?? Does Volz servos have this many problems?? If not $30-40 means nothing when you are looking at a bad servo glued into your wing! David S. dirty RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Disappearance of midpriced sailplanes
Yep, if I flew thermal contests and lived on the east coast I'd ask Gordy too! Where in the hell has he been lately? Conspicuously missing in action. Gordy..Gordy.earth to Gordy, come in Gordy.Over. C.L. Sal DeFrancesco wrote: Last thing...At a contest try to enlist the best and most experienced flyer on the field to be your timer. If Daryl or Joe happen to be there ask! Usually they will be able to time for you at least once and the knowledge you will pick up is priceless! In the Midwest try Rich Burnowski, Terry Edmonds, or Mike Fox. The East Coasters already know who to ask! RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] Apology to Karlton
Oh sure Pal. Lets see.the K key isn't even close to the C key.how did the H get in there?.now there is A in between the L and the T and the A isn't even close to either one of those and then lastly you installed another A for an O which is on the other side of the key board. Looks like you must have gotten some "dirty pot" too. Don't worry though, Sniedly Da Franscruzu.we all have our "off" daze. C.L. Sal DeFrancesco wrote: At home sick today and had the opportunity to send some e-mails to the soaring Exchange. When using my spell checker I didn't notice (due to all my typos!) that the spell checker substituted Charlatan for Karlton. I am sorry! -- Sal DeFrancesco Northeast Sailplane Products 948 Hercules Dr. Suite 12 Colchester, Vt. 05446 802-655-7700 Website: http://www.nesail.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Receiver Madness
Still? Bill Swingle wrote: I'm confused. Bill Swingle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Janesville, CA RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] AMA Stake Rule ?
No Gordy, some of us are into quality and not quantity. But do keep those reports about mountain sloping coming. Is that all? Mountain sloping? No reports as to how many trees/rocks you encountered? How hard was the wind blowing or was there any at all? Did you fly foam? Did you fly a slope rocket? Did you fly a full house F3B plane? Was there any thermal action? Was it a DS mountain? How were your landings? Hand catches and how many? Did you bungee launch? Any on site repairs and if so what kind or CA did you use and will it be featured in any upcoming articles? Details, we need details. We have lots of mountains we can slope off of around Santa Cruz but we don't like the walk back up the hill. Wind and from the right direction is necessary. There has been a lack of it lately but we think some is coming. No.we know some is coming, we just don't quite know when.] Cliff Lindgren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The BMFA believe that this potential hazard and their advice should receive a wide distribution and recipients are asked to take whatever action they believe to be appropriate within their national governing bodies to alert aeromodellers to a serious potential hazard. Isn't there some rule that says that modelers who have not produced children are required by the insurance to where a protective cup while launching? Gordy Sitting in a motel in Atlanta working on a NSP K2, pretty cool sailplane by the way. Too bad Sal isn't selling them anymore, but he says he has a new 3m ship that is lighter and better, I think he is calling it the Orion 3m (or is it the Organic 3m?) Anyway, I have the box lid anchored on both ends, yeah I realize I am being crazy by not having chutes on each end, but what the heck, I have AMA Insurance. I did some mountain sloping today, did you? RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] RE: DS Ratings
There is no cure, its hopeless. The "Dark Side" has claimed just one more slave to add to its ever growing stable. Beware young man.once you have entered the forbidden "Sacred Circle" your voyage to the "Dark Side" has only begun. There is no return. Normal slope flying will seem mundane, boring. When we were at Blanco this year and the DS didn't work it was because it was blowing over 35 mph and more like 55(south wind). Then the slope rockets came out and we were able to BS instead of DS. We tired of this quickly and yearned for the winds to return back to a reasonable 25 or for the wind to switch to the north side so the south side could be DS'd. It works even in higher velocity wind and is not as violent as the north side. You will blow up planes though. Nathan Marni Woods wrote: Dieter, having an idea that seems popular is nothing to shirk away from. I like the idea of just talking about the DS life and wallet changing aspects of soaring. Personally, I'm terrible at DS. And as far as my level of addiction, I'm still a "grasshopper." I think some of the more entertaining forms of addiction levels are evident by commitment, as well as sacrifice. For instance: Level 1: Experiment with the dark side using any foamy that's available Level 2: Purpose build a special foamy just for DS'ing. Drive around your region looking for ridges to DS from. Level 3: Risk an old cheap plane (like my much abused 60" Fun-1) Level 4: The cheap old plane is sacrificed. Level 5: Buying a new plane for the sole purpose of perfecting the DS turn. Level 6: Getting the groove! Blowing up the new plane Level 7: Kit bashing a perfectly solid plane like the Opus or Blade in an effort to sustain the rigors of DS'ing. Level 8: Blowing up this highly modified plane in spectacular and rewarding fashion Level 9: Designing an entire new airfoil and wing layup for the sole purpose of DS'ing. Spending $1500 on a TX that you can rest your hands and forearms on to provide a more stable control platform... Level 10: Having eye surgery to be able to focus faster and track the plane. Commit hours of time to certain video games to enhance brain to thumb processing speed. Personally own a radar gun wired into a computer to track average and peak velocities in realtime. Level 11: Move your home to a secret perfect DS ridge. Years go by, only people who remember you are the CST delivery drivers Ah, well, something like that. Personally, I'm only at level 3 :-) But my Renegade is looking for a new thrill.. Nathan Woods, Orange CA RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] Tricks
I would like to say thank you to all who responded to my inquiry on their method of installing push rods in a long fuse. Most of the responses were great, a few were far fetched. One nut suggested stuffing a Gordy cell with 6 minute epoxy into the fuse. I hope he doesn't spend much time wondering why he never wins a TD contest if this is an example of his building techniques. I got several excellent ideas. Thank you Cliff Lindgren RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] Tricks
Howdy all, I have a couple of rather long fuses that I need to install linkage housings for the V-tail's, inside it. Does anyone have any suggestions with their pet method of attaching the tubes? I want to secure them extremely well because these planes will be DS'd hard and I want a minimum of slop. Thanks, Cliff Lindgren RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Dave Reese's movie.
Good question, ask Dave. He seems a bit irritable lately though. Cliff Schwinger wrote: Howdy all, I am interested in the new movie that Dave Reese is releasing. His last post on the subject dated 6/9/2000 stated that it would What is this movie/video about (r/c soaring?) and where can I get it? cliff RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Coyote Idiots
Wahh! Wahh! Wahh! Take it somewhere else boys. Your personal arguments/hassles are just that and I for one am not impressed with any of your in depth descriptions of what did or did not take place or who was standing where or who you think is an idiot or how high the grass is or where the rock is or how hard the wind was blowing or what you did or did not crash or any of that crap. Deal with it one on one. This is not a cry-baby exchange. I've seen five year olds get along better together in a sand box. As with so many threads on this exchange you've confused us with to many facts. If you have a problem with anyone at your local slope, deal with it there. That is where it counts and that is where it affects you. Just my opinion and that's all it is. Cliff Lindgren Paul Klissner wrote: Now its time to hear the other side of the story. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] Santa Maria! or Hold on!
exactly what happened and it went crazy, did a wakazoid maneuver, spinning uncontrollably and hit the face of the slope cartwheeled up the face with stuff flying out of it and blew over the top! End of my flying and now the Easter egg hunt starts. While Im hunting Scott gets a ripping flight in with his F-20 (I look up once in a while during the search) and manages to land successfully. He comes up and we finally find every piece except for one of my elevators. No big deal. My nose got broke off but is repairable. So now Hewett decides that he is going to DS the upper ridge we are now on. I launch his F-20 again and he starts making the circles. The thing is ripping/twitching/squirrelly and terrifying! Over rotation is the big problem on this short winged rocket. It is a handful for Hewett! Finally on one low pass it gets down at the tree line and because its blue and hard to see against the dark green he loses it for a minute, dont ask me how but here it comes shooting up, out of control and it augers in nose down. We make the trek down and Scott pulls it out (it was buried to the wing) and says,Oh sheet! My canopy came off! IM Thinking Wow, bummer. So now he starts thinking about launching his latest creation. Its a 63 wing he calls the Go Go Girl and is a 63 Sloth. Then he starts backtracking because the little common sense sloper who lives on one of his shoulder says no Scott, dont do it you just built it and you dont want to chance destroying it this early in its life. Then the little DS devil sitting on the other shoulder starts telling them that hell never live it down unless he does and the Devil wins the argument. OK, I get to launch again. Here we go! Hang on! He gets altitude, dives for the backside, stays low and the thing just tears up the hill at us. I am diving for cover behind him, its scary! The thing is making horrible screeching sounds like its in agony! He is making these huge circles going so deep I simply cant believe why this thing just keeps coming up the hill on the wrong side? Is it magic? I m a firm believer that it is. Circle after circle and its flying like its on rails. Now Scott has to land the thing. So he makes some deep circles low on the backside trying to bleed speed coming up the hill but it just wont slow down enough controlled crash. He goes even deeper and deeper coming up the hill and finally he stuffs it in doing maybe about 10 mph! He smiles and says, Ill take that. I didnt bring my wind gauge with me but we figure it to be blowing somewhere in the 75 85 mph areas today there. Now if you are a bit skeptical and I can understand if you are I can tell you that we have flown some of the windiest spots the West Coast of the US has to offer. Scott undisputedly is one of the most experienced big air flyers I have had the pleasure to watch fly in these conditions. Today, he stated that this is probably the heaviest air he has ever flown in during his RC Glider flying career and definitely had the most vertical punch, even better than Cape Sebastian, Oregon or Eagle Butte Washington.. I personally watched him and Dave Reese fly in 70 mph plus at Cape Blanco, Oregon (my Kestrel wind indicator blew up at 74 that time). This opinion is based on todays conditions, which are not an everyday occurrence at Fremont Peak. When we got back down the hill I glanced up at the flagpole ..the flag was gone! We drove down the hill to another one of our recently discovered DS spots which I named the "Mother Lode" and only flew in an average (according to my Kestrel wind meter) 41 mph with a top gust of 55 mph. Both Fremont Peak The Mother Lode are in the Hill around San Juan Bautista, CA area. I must admit I would not care to fly in these extreme conditions on a regular basis but once in awhile really gets the juices flowing. The only way I can sit and write this is because of the overdose of adrenaline today. Thanks, I hope I didnt bore anyone. Cliff Lindgren. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] Re: [F3F] V-tail realignment
Craig, could you please define "quality break"? How big do the pieces need to be? How did you experience yours and with which plane? Thanks, Cliff PS. I just want to knowI may or may not have suffered one today. Craig Toutolmin wrote: From: "Craig Toutolmin" [EMAIL PROTECTED] I would like to know of the techniques used to realign a v-tail with symetric foils after a fuse break This would be a quality break with pieces missing so that the fuse does'nt index completely. My current method takes several shop hours and flying hours to get the decalage reset. Thanks, Craig Toutolmin __ NetZero - Defenders of the Free World Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html WANT FREE MAGAZINES? Sample over 500 magazines in 30 categories-- all for FREE at FreeShop.com, your source for thousands of free and trial offers! http://click.egroups.com/1/1610/0/_/75970/_/951106809/ RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] Airtronics servos
I am looking for a good source at the best price for Airtronics servos. Anyone got some good info? Cliff Lindgren RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] How many Pilots does it take to Bash NSP
So, it seems at least one individual can appreciate my twisted sense of humor. Thanks Scott. This whole Sal bashing thing is just one aspect of what I was trying to convey to the exchange via the light bulb post. It is useless and counter-productive as about 75% of all posts are. Thank God for the delete key. Unfortunately I almost wore out my second delete key...that was until I figured out how to filter certain folks who seem to just love to see their names and constant ramblings about absolutely nothing contributory, in print. I feel some folks seem to think quantity is much better than quality. And then there are those who think if they start rambling about some scientific equation/therory on flight that we will all hold them in high esteem and they will be certainly be elevated by all of us as "experts". I must admit though that I am a guilty party also. (not as being a expert for sure, just ramblings)But its great...no? This is America and we should all have the same opportunity to make big fools of ourselves just as much as the next guy! So.who wants to take bets on what the next seemingly endless thread will be about? I can hardly wait. Cliff Lindgren Scott Marshall wrote: With apologies to Cliff L. for reworking his recent post. Q: How many RCSE subscribers does it take to bash Sal at NSP (insert the vendor of the month)? A: 616: 1 to post to RCSE that they've had a problem with NSP. 14 to share similar experiences of dealing with Sal and how the situation could have been handled differently. 7 to caution about the dangers of dealing with Sal 27 to point out spelling/grammar errors in posts about NSP 156 to write about the vendor bashing and its inappropriateness to this mail list. 109 to post that this list is not about vendor bashing and to please take this email exchange to alt.bitch.moan 111 to defend the posting to this list saying that we are all buy our planes from somewhere and therefore the posts **are** relevant to this mail list. 106 to debate vendor personalities to determine who sucks. 27 to post URLs where one can see examples of who "really" sucks 14 to post that the URLs were posted incorrectly, and to post corrected URLs. 33 to concatenate all posts to date, then quote them including all headers and footers, and then add "Me Too." 12 to post to the list that they are unsubscribing because they cannot handle the NSP controversy. GO FLY! Scott Marshall IMSF, SLC, UT P.S. Temps in the 50's today (Jan thaw). I'm looking forward to flying the Wingo when I get home. Then when it gets to dark to fly, I'll go in and work on planes to take to Phoenix. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Sailboat Wings
OK, here we go. There is true wind and there is apparent wind. Apparent wind is the wind you feel if there is no wind and you're on a bike and you start moving forward. It feels like there is wind, right? Sailboats use wind and forward motion to work. Proper sail trim is extremely important to achieve maximum efficiency from any given boat. You are manipulating your "wing/sail" with many different lines. OK. A close hauled (point of sail into the wind) mono hull sail boat can pretty much only go what is called hull speed. Now, you crack off the sails a little, head off the wind a bit and you start generating more of your own wind by gaining more speed. This is the true wind and your forward motion combined, hence more apparent wind and hence more speed. Anytime you sail past where the apparent wind is on your beam you throw up your spinnaker (big pretty sail) and you go even faster. Your sails are still working as a wing and you are being "lifted". That is until you are running down wind and then you only go as fast as the true wind is blowing. You cease getting lifted by your sails anymore. Your are "running before the wind". It doesn't matter what kind of a boat you are on either unless you are in a situation where you have a planing hull or there are waves and you break-loose and start surfing. ULDB's (ultralight displacement boats) which became extremely popular in the 70's can surf the ocean bay waves very well. Once down wind its only as fast as the wind is blowing for most boats. Its a pretty scary point of sail in a blow too. In sailboat racing, un-wanted jibes while running down wind result in what is commonly know as the "death roll" and you can be pinned on your side if you "round down". OK, in the medium of the ocean there is a lot of drag from the water. On land with only three wheels on the ground there's a lot less friction. On ice its even less. That is why extreme speeds can be achieved in a realitivly light wind. Its can pretty much be summed up by saying " the faster you go, the faster you go ". OK, so now if you want to sell all of your gliders and buy a sailboat and want to live on the wild side, buy a mutli-hulled sailboat and go real fast. Be prepared to get wet though. I am sure there is a much more scientific explanation and I'm looking forward to the many theories forthcoming on this glider exchange. Cliff Lindgren Brett Jaffee wrote: Well, as others have pointed out, there are sail powered vehicles that can go faster then the actual wind (I'm still not quite sure how that works, but apparently it does). As for flat areas with lots of wind, you've got places like the Bonneville Salt Flats in Utah, or even Rogers Dry Lake near Edwards AFB in California. At 10:25 PM 01/04/2000 -0800, Tracy R Reed wrote: On Tue, Jan 04, 2000 at 04:45:34PM -0800, Brett Jaffee wrote: stab. Supposedly, it could go 120mph. In a 120mph wind? Where do they find such wind with flat land to race on that isn't covered in dunes? -- Tracy Reed http://www.ultraviolet.org The idea that Bill Gates has appeared like a knight in shining armour to lead all customers out of a mire of technological chaos neatly ignores the fact that it was he who, by peddling second-rate technology, led them into it in the first place. - Douglas Adams in Guardian, 25-Aug-95 Brett Jaffee: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brett's Slope and Power Home Page: http://home.earthlink.net/~jaffee OnTheWay Quake 2 server utility: http://www.planetquake.com/ontheway The Unoffical Extra 300 Home Page: http://www.bayarea.net/~nathan/extra300/ RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] FellowAtkinsDiet guys-OFF TOPIC Sort of :-)
Gordy! I really don't believe I just read this post from you. Yesterday you blast some poor guy for posting about the possibility of the goverment taxing are E.mail which would affect ALL of us on this exchange and then you post this thing about fat-ass weight loss that hardly affects any of us. What gives? This is really setting a double standard. What? You have deemed talking about weight loss a worthy topic for all of us on RCSE? Give me a MO FO TILLEY HO BREAK!!! I think a public apology should be forthcoming from you to the guy you blasted at the very least. You want to make up rules? Then abide by them. At least give us a couple of more days before you go off topic so as to let us forget about your most recent ramblings. Cliff Lindgren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (For those of you guys that are on :Please post me off line if you have anything to add to my observations.) For you sailplaners who have started the Atkins diet after seeing my reduced airframe and have also lost that 30 to 50lbs this summer, here are some observations I noticed after losing the weight and then continuing the eating habits of steak, bacon, cheese, fish,butter, etc. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Slope Racing Plane Opinions..Vindicator
Randy, I sure wish you would have CC'd me after I got my new Vindicator wings. Cliff Bobbi and Randy wrote: I must admit that I am very surprised the John is still recommending a Vindicator even if Brian is his friend. Yes, the Vindicator is a wonderful plane. And yes, Brian McLean is a great designer and builder. However, I waited for over a year to get something from Brian that was promised in six weeks!!! I have a ***VERY*** hard time recommending ordering anything from him. While Brian seems like a nice enough guy, a years worth of excuses of why my plane was not shipped or later when I gave up and asked for a refund, why he couldn't send it has left me with a rather bitter feelings. I am not the only one that has been through an endless stream of excuses of why their plane hasn't shipped yet. I know of several others that have had the same sort of problem with Brian. I don't know if any other others will come forward or not, but I stand by what I say. It's pretty pathetic that I can order a plane from Czechoslovakia and have it arrive in a few weeks and yet I order something from someone here in the States and it takes over a year to get it and it wasn't even the plane I ordered, but what I settled for so I could at least get something. The killer is the guy whines about how the import planes are stealing the market. Gee, I wonder why. This is in no way a slam on US makers. I have had great luck ordering from Dave's Aircraft Works, Maple Leaf, Aerofoam, the Zagi guy and others. I do however believe in punishing the guilty and rewarding the good. Very sincerely Randy Bullard > > Get a Vindy now, and a dominator later, if I like it too... > > > John Roe
Re: [RCSE] Newbie (control recovery pointers)
Thanks Scott. you've been a great help to all of us I'm sure. I feel so ridiculous, all this time I thought it was "Watch out!" Mutha's coming around the DS circle and she's headed my way!!! Cliff Lindgren Scott Hewett wrote: Hi Frank- "Washout" has nothing to do with gliders. It refers to household chores. Like, "I'll do the dishes if you'll put the washout". Really saves on quarters at the laundromat too! Hope this helps, Scott Frank Lori Koegler wrote: What's "washout" and what is it good for?- something about warping the wing tip for more control?? Frank RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Big Diamond give away....
OK.then. But will there be a cold beer giveaway? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, No, No...there is no diamond giveaway at Taft next weekend...there is no diamond. But if you would like to come and lend a hand please do. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] stork glider
Gordy, I have a few questions for you. When you are preparing to do a review/write-up on any given glider/sailplane or model accessories, how do you go about it? Does the manufacture have a clue that you will be reviewing his model/hardware? Does he supply the model/hardware? Do you order the model/hardware from a distributor or go to a hobby store and pick it up off of the shelf? (This seems like the only fair way to give a real conclusive and totally unbiased report, to me) Does a manufacture ever request that you give a model or hardware a review and supply it to you? Have you ever had to give a honest review in writing, in a publication and tell the public the model/hardware were a piece of junk or poorly manufactured? (In kinder words of course) Or all reports/reviews on poorly kited, inferior workmanship or just downright lousy products abandoned before press. I'm just curious. You can respond on the exchange, I think there are inquiring minds that would like to know. Thank you for any info. Cliff Lindgren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 8/11/99 7:34:27 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: purchased mine about 2 months ago from australian importer. Although I am very pleased with the way it flies, I,m also very disappointed in a couple of areas. First It has a black fuzz not good for the hot Australian summers. Unfortunately I wasn't told it was black before purchase. Second I had manipulated the flaps and ailerons when installing the wing servos and really before the first flight I noticed the hingeing had started to tear from each end of the flaps and ailerons. I rang supplier and mentioned the problems. Nothing could be done about it. Don,t get me wrong!!! the STORK flies beautifully, but I think for the $1500 I paid for it, the quality could have been better. My bit finished. GARRY I don't know which Stork you got but it doesn't sound anything like the one we are seeing here in the USA. I just finished a review of the Stork for RC Soaring Digest Magazine and communicated with editors of QFI and Aufwind as well as a half dozen of owner/competitors who all found none of what you are experiencing. Our Stork have white fuselages and no hinge tearing. Our Storks are sailplanes, maybe the glider version isn't the same :-) They cost us under $800 for a complete with wiring harness version. An amazing thermal airplane! Huge lauches and hungrily consumes thermals. There have been a few iterations of the model maybe yours is an older version. I think I would have to 'export' it back to its nest . If you want to see one of the Storks that are coming into the USA (and older version since improved) go to Jim Bacus' web page. I don't have his page but do have his email. A HREF="[EMAIL PROTECTED]"Jim Bacus/A By the way Northeast Sailplane has the very latest version with some mods added especially which include bottom hinged flaps and stiffer fuse resin. A HREF="[EMAIL PROTECTED]"Sal at NSP/A Gordy RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Hawks that follow planes into lift...
That ain't nothing, we already have trained hawks that now DS at our local spot called the Mecca. Boy are they bummed out when we show up and take over the hill! Cliff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hell, we've got ya beat at SULA field (Los Angeles, CA). We've got several hawks that we've trained to find lift for us. We've been training them for over 25 years at our field to show us where the lift is - and wouldn't you know it? They show us every day. You have to be careful though, occasionally they will dive to pick up a meal on the ground... 3 guys have followed hawks into the ground thinking they were going for a low thermal... Now if they could only teach us to land on the 100 point landing spot... Kevin (tongue-in-cheek) Andersen RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Portable smoke generator?
Yes there is! There is a local guy that flies with us that produces all kinds of smoke. For a psaltry fee I'll talk him into going to your hill and fly with you. Oh yeah, I forgot, the first time is free. Cliff. Bill Swingle wrote: I would like to get a better feel for the air currents on the back side of a slope (gee, can you guess why?). I am wondering is there anything available commercially that is reasonably portable which generates smoke? Bill Swingle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pleasanton, CA RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Re: Hawks
Gordy.Gordy..calling Gordy, .Gordy, where the hell are you when we need you? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Who cares about the animals! It's more fun to try to hit the pilots! FULL CONTACT FLYING! YEAH! Rules are as follows: 1)No hitting the other person's airplane. 2)Land if you knock them unconscious (see special rule #1) 3)No hits between the legs. 4)If you do hit them in the groin, they get to kick you there one time for every minutetheir voice is higher than normal, and/or they lay on the ground whimpering. 5)No pancake hits (stall above the person, and drop the plane) 6)No pointed noses on the aircraft 7)Dodging is allowed Special Rules: 1)If you knock the other person out, you get extra points if you can land on themwhile they are still on the ground 2)Knocking them off their feet w/o knocking them down gives 1/2 knockout points 3)Teamwork - Each team may have only one (1) member hit any region of the body 4)The person is "killed" after another person aquires 10 points off them. Points System: Part of Body | Points Head | 5 Torso | 2 Arm | 4 Leg(s) | 3 Back| 1 Special Points: Special |Points Knockout | 8-forehead hit 6-temple hit 9-chin hit Knockdown| 5 Hit Tx | 2 Upside Down Hit | 3+ area location points Hit their aircraft | -4 Landing on a knockout| 1+ knockout points _ No, I'm not really that sick. Just bored. Though it would be cool... ;-) -NCW _ RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
