RE: Space Mouse for XSI
seems there was a problem with the mail server. The reply was from Francois Lord, not myself. They improved the drivers and the handling of the space mice btw., so you might want to try your space pilot with the newest driver. If it would work in XSI the same way as in the demo viewer, it would be really useful. It adjusts the speed of the camera movement relative to the distance to the camera target. The target will get automatically projected on the objects surface in the middle of a viewport so you will always orbit around the part you're looking at. But as said it works not exactly this way in XSI. It positions the target only if you select something (sub components works though). sven From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Sven Constable Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2016 12:58 AM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: Space Mouse for XSI I won a SpacePilot several years ago and was very impressed with the hardware, much less with the drivers. The main problem I saw in Softimage was the fact that the speed of translation wasn't adjusting with the distance from the object. Normally, when you dolly the camera in Softimage, the speed of the camera varies with the distance of the object. So in a very large scene, the camera moves very rapidly. With the SpacePilot, the camera moves always at the same speed, making it very very slow in large scenes. It made it useless. My SpacePilot is sleeping in a drawer ever since. I'm keeping it because I'm dreaming of the day I will be able to use it in VR. ;) On 2016-06-14 14:52, Sven Constable wrote: Hey list, I recently bought a spacemouse pro, not exclusively for Softimage but would be nice to use it there. The mouse itself works great within the demo from 3dConnexion (3d Connexion Viewer) and after some days of practice it feels very natural. The implementation in some of the 3D animation DCCs unfortunatly isn't that great. It works ok in XSI in the ortho views as well with user cam and regular cameras. Not exceptionally good. E.g it has no automatic repositioning of the camera interest. What makes it a bit difficult to move the cam precisely when you're very close to objects. Another thing is, it mutes the direction constraint on the cam to its interest. Somewhat understandable, since an active constraint would interfere with the six degrees of freedom the mouse can do. 'Sticky keys' do not work because all buttons (even if freely configurable) always works as toggle switches. I'll give it some weeks testdriving it. Right now it feels more like a gadget for CAD people. Does anyone got some tips to make the best out of the spacemouse together with XSI? Regards, sven -- Softimage Mailing List. To unsubscribe, send a mail to softimage-requ...@listproc.autodesk.com with "unsubscribe" in the subject, and reply to confirm.
Re: Space Mouse for XSI
I won a SpacePilot several years ago and was very impressed with the hardware, much less with the drivers. The main problem I saw in Softimage was the fact that the speed of translation wasn't adjusting with the distance from the object. Normally, when you dolly the camera in Softimage, the speed of the camera varies with the distance of the object. So in a very large scene, the camera moves very rapidly. With the SpacePilot, the camera moves always at the same speed, making it very very slow in large scenes. It made it useless. My SpacePilot is sleeping in a drawer ever since. I'm keeping it because I'm dreaming of the day I will be able to use it in VR. ;) On 2016-06-14 14:52, Sven Constable wrote: > Hey list, > > I recently bought a spacemouse pro, not exclusively for Softimage but would be nice to use it there. The mouse itself works great within the demo from 3dConnexion (3d Connexion Viewer) and after some days of practice it feels very natural. The implementation in some of the 3D animation DCCs unfortunatly isn't that great. It works ok in XSI in the ortho views as well with user cam and regular cameras. Not exceptionally good. E.g it has no automatic repositioning of the camera interest. What makes it a bit difficult to move the cam precisely when you're very close to objects. Another thing is, it mutes the direction constraint on the cam to its interest. Somewhat understandable, since an active constraint would interfere with the six degrees of freedom the mouse can do. 'Sticky keys' do not work because all buttons (even if freely configurable) always works as toggle switches. > > I'll give it some weeks testdriving it. Right now it feels more like a gadget for CAD people. > > Does anyone got some tips to make the best out of the spacemouse together with XSI? > > Regards, > > sven -- Softimage Mailing List. To unsubscribe, send a mail to softimage-requ...@listproc.autodesk.com with "unsubscribe" in the subject, and reply to confirm.
Space Mouse for XSI
Hey list, I recently bought a spacemouse pro, not exclusively for Softimage but would be nice to use it there. The mouse itself works great within the demo from 3dConnexion (3d Connexion Viewer) and after some days of practice it feels very natural. The implementation in some of the 3D animation DCCs unfortunatly isn't that great. It works ok in XSI in the ortho views as well with user cam and regular cameras. Not exceptionally good. E.g it has no automatic repositioning of the camera interest. What makes it a bit difficult to move the cam precisely when you're very close to objects. Another thing is, it mutes the direction constraint on the cam to its interest. Somewhat understandable, since an active constraint would interfere with the six degrees of freedom the mouse can do. 'Sticky keys' do not work because all buttons (even if freely configurable) always works as toggle switches. I'll give it some weeks testdriving it. Right now it feels more like a gadget for CAD people. Does anyone got some tips to make the best out of the spacemouse together with XSI? Regards, sven -- Softimage Mailing List. To unsubscribe, send a mail to softimage-requ...@listproc.autodesk.com with "unsubscribe" in the subject, and reply to confirm.
Re: Softimage turning on 1 axis only and only via mouse buttons! - Help
Thank you guys! That solved the problem. I also checked on the Transform properties from the >Transform menu UI. Finally, working as usual . Weird glitch! Cheers. On Sat, Jan 2, 2016 at 4:21 PM, Sebastien Sterling < sebastien.sterl...@gmail.com> wrote: > You can SHIFT+ Click them back on in the transform menu > > there is a little color referenced button next to each transforms (x,y,z) > axisis > > it is possible to accidentally turn them off by double clicking on one of > the axisis on the transformation gizmo. you can also bring them all back by > double clicking in the center of the transformation gizmo, but this can be > tricky. > > On 2 January 2016 at 20:16, Thomas Volkmann > wrote: > >> See if "Use 3D manipulators" in the transform preferences got unchecked >> somehow. >> >> cheers, >> Thomas >> >> >> On 01/02/2016 08:52 PM, Pierre Schiller wrote: >> >> >> Hi, everyone. When I get to X, C, V (transforms for scale, rotate and >> translate) I can only do it on one axis depending on the mouse button I >> tap. How do I return it the way it was originally (you get a transforming >> gizmo and rotate, scale, translate with the mouse over the axis color)? >> Please help. >> >> Thanks. >> >> -- >> Portfolio 2013 <http://be.net/3dcinetv> >> Cinema & TV production >> Video Reel <https://vimeo.com/3dcinetv/reel2012> >> >> >> > -- Portfolio 2013 <http://be.net/3dcinetv> Cinema & TV production Video Reel <https://vimeo.com/3dcinetv/reel2012>
Re: Softimage turning on 1 axis only and only via mouse buttons! - Help
You can SHIFT+ Click them back on in the transform menu there is a little color referenced button next to each transforms (x,y,z) axisis it is possible to accidentally turn them off by double clicking on one of the axisis on the transformation gizmo. you can also bring them all back by double clicking in the center of the transformation gizmo, but this can be tricky. On 2 January 2016 at 20:16, Thomas Volkmann wrote: > See if "Use 3D manipulators" in the transform preferences got unchecked > somehow. > > cheers, > Thomas > > > On 01/02/2016 08:52 PM, Pierre Schiller wrote: > > > Hi, everyone. When I get to X, C, V (transforms for scale, rotate and > translate) I can only do it on one axis depending on the mouse button I > tap. How do I return it the way it was originally (you get a transforming > gizmo and rotate, scale, translate with the mouse over the axis color)? > Please help. > > Thanks. > > -- > Portfolio 2013 <http://be.net/3dcinetv> > Cinema & TV production > Video Reel <https://vimeo.com/3dcinetv/reel2012> > > >
Re: Softimage turning on 1 axis only and only via mouse buttons! - Help
See if "Use 3D manipulators" in the transform preferences got unchecked somehow. cheers, Thomas On 01/02/2016 08:52 PM, Pierre Schiller wrote: Hi, everyone. When I get to X, C, V (transforms for scale, rotate and translate) I can only do it on one axis depending on the mouse button I tap. How do I return it the way it was originally (you get a transforming gizmo and rotate, scale, translate with the mouse over the axis color)? Please help. Thanks. -- Portfolio 2013 <http://be.net/3dcinetv> Cinema & TV production Video Reel <https://vimeo.com/3dcinetv/reel2012>
Softimage turning on 1 axis only and only via mouse buttons! - Help
Hi, everyone. When I get to X, C, V (transforms for scale, rotate and translate) I can only do it on one axis depending on the mouse button I tap. How do I return it the way it was originally (you get a transforming gizmo and rotate, scale, translate with the mouse over the axis color)? Please help. Thanks. -- Portfolio 2013 <http://be.net/3dcinetv> Cinema & TV production Video Reel <https://vimeo.com/3dcinetv/reel2012>
Re: OT: Mouse recommendations
Similarly Wacom has touchpads that also have pen input. http://www.wacom.com/en-us/products/pen-tablets/intuos-pen-and-touch-small http://www.wacom.com/en-us/products/navigation/bamboo-pad-usb On 6/25/2015 10:44 AM, Alan Fregtman wrote: A guy at work who had wrist problems loves his "/Fingerworks iGesture Pad/": http://www.ergocanada.com/products/mice/fingerworks_igest_pad.html but I don't believe the company exists anymore, though maybe someone on eBay still sells it. Some googling found me a large Logitech trackpad which I imagine is probably as good or better: http://support.logitech.com/product/touchpad-t650 On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 11:23 AM Adam Seeley <mailto:adammsee...@gmail.com>> wrote: Sod it, I'll just avoid using my hands altogether. http://www.amazon.com/Bili-Inc-Footime-Foot-Mouse/dp/B001CH956U A. On 25 June 2015 at 15:25, Alan Fregtman mailto:alan.fregt...@gmail.com>> wrote: I have always loved the Logitech MX18: http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Performance-Optical-Gaming-Mouse/dp/B0007Z1M50 The shape is very comfortable, resolution is adjustable from the hardware (no drivers needed), the scroll is clicky (not that weighted smooth endless scroll nonsense), middle mouse button is just a button (no sideways scroll nonsense, no smooth/clicky scroll mode switch nonsense) and there's two handy forward+backward buttons by the thumb area. It's just a good, comfortable mouse. On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 10:18 AM Rob Chapman mailto:tekano@gmail.com>> wrote: foolish humans, think like a primate. this has done me for several years, approaching a decade. refused a traditional mouse once the carpel pains started, with this there are none. http://solutions.3m.co.uk/wps/portal/3M/en_GB/ComputerAccessories/ComputerAccessories/Products/OfficeComputerEquipment/ErgonomicComputerMouse/ best Rob On 25 June 2015 at 13:49, Adam Seeley mailto:adammsee...@gmail.com>> wrote: > Ok, let's give the Anker a shot.. can't go wrong for a tenner. > > The more natural grip makes good sense. > > A. > > On 25 June 2015 at 05:40, Eric Turman mailto:i.anima...@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >> It's all good Raffaele, I can not imagine that a non-personal review of a >> mouse would be very useful. I think you are right about the 50-70 degree >> angle, I took a look at how I hold my Evo and my hand rolls over the top a >> bit. >> >> But on to the exciting (well, as exciting as mice get) development...I >> went ahead per your recommendation and ordered a wired version of the Anker >> from Amazon this morning and it came this afternoon. It feels like a decent >> and comfortable mouse, only thing is that I wish it had a flange for my >> pinkie so that it wouldn't rub on the desktop. It is big enough where it >> fits well in my hand but slender enough that is is well suited for my wife >> and children. The build feels solid and the buttons have a bit more >> resistance than the Evo. And for only $13.99 for the wired version, it's a >> steal. >> >> Cheers, >> -=Eric >> >> On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 2:10 AM, Raffaele Fragapane >> mailto:raffsxsil...@googlemail.com>> wrote: >>> >>> Hey Eric, >>> >>> All I wrote is obviously personal, I know not everybody feels that way >>> about the Evo, some people never adjust to it, some people can't live with >>> anything else. Well, except possibly the fact evo's research is sketchy >>> (50-70 degree is better than their 85). >>> The thumb thing does happen to me after prolonged use, especially if I >>> have to frequently hold the clicks, in which case a flat mouse will not >>> present the problem as you don't have to exert any force opposite to the >>> click, the desk will do it for you. >>
Re: OT: Mouse recommendations
A guy at work who had wrist problems loves his "*Fingerworks iGesture Pad*": http://www.ergocanada.com/products/mice/fingerworks_igest_pad.html but I don't believe the company exists anymore, though maybe someone on eBay still sells it. Some googling found me a large Logitech trackpad which I imagine is probably as good or better: http://support.logitech.com/product/touchpad-t650 On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 11:23 AM Adam Seeley wrote: > Sod it, > > I'll just avoid using my hands altogether. > > http://www.amazon.com/Bili-Inc-Footime-Foot-Mouse/dp/B001CH956U > > A. > > On 25 June 2015 at 15:25, Alan Fregtman wrote: > >> I have always loved the Logitech MX18: >> >> http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Performance-Optical-Gaming-Mouse/dp/B0007Z1M50 >> >> The shape is very comfortable, resolution is adjustable from the hardware >> (no drivers needed), the scroll is clicky (not that weighted smooth endless >> scroll nonsense), middle mouse button is just a button (no sideways scroll >> nonsense, no smooth/clicky scroll mode switch nonsense) and there's two >> handy forward+backward buttons by the thumb area. It's just a good, >> comfortable mouse. >> >> >> On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 10:18 AM Rob Chapman >> wrote: >> >>> foolish humans, think like a primate. >>> >>> this has done me for several years, approaching a decade. refused a >>> traditional mouse once the carpel pains started, with this there are >>> none. >>> >>> >>> http://solutions.3m.co.uk/wps/portal/3M/en_GB/ComputerAccessories/ComputerAccessories/Products/OfficeComputerEquipment/ErgonomicComputerMouse/ >>> >>> >>> >>> best >>> >>> Rob >>> >>> >>> On 25 June 2015 at 13:49, Adam Seeley wrote: >>> > Ok, let's give the Anker a shot.. can't go wrong for a tenner. >>> > >>> > The more natural grip makes good sense. >>> > >>> > A. >>> > >>> > On 25 June 2015 at 05:40, Eric Turman wrote: >>> >> >>> >> It's all good Raffaele, I can not imagine that a non-personal review >>> of a >>> >> mouse would be very useful. I think you are right about the 50-70 >>> degree >>> >> angle, I took a look at how I hold my Evo and my hand rolls over the >>> top a >>> >> bit. >>> >> >>> >> But on to the exciting (well, as exciting as mice get) development...I >>> >> went ahead per your recommendation and ordered a wired version of the >>> Anker >>> >> from Amazon this morning and it came this afternoon. It feels like a >>> decent >>> >> and comfortable mouse, only thing is that I wish it had a flange for >>> my >>> >> pinkie so that it wouldn't rub on the desktop. It is big enough where >>> it >>> >> fits well in my hand but slender enough that is is well suited for my >>> wife >>> >> and children. The build feels solid and the buttons have a bit more >>> >> resistance than the Evo. And for only $13.99 for the wired version, >>> it's a >>> >> steal. >>> >> >>> >> Cheers, >>> >> -=Eric >>> >> >>> >> On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 2:10 AM, Raffaele Fragapane >>> >> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> Hey Eric, >>> >>> >>> >>> All I wrote is obviously personal, I know not everybody feels that >>> way >>> >>> about the Evo, some people never adjust to it, some people can't >>> live with >>> >>> anything else. Well, except possibly the fact evo's research is >>> sketchy >>> >>> (50-70 degree is better than their 85). >>> >>> The thumb thing does happen to me after prolonged use, especially if >>> I >>> >>> have to frequently hold the clicks, in which case a flat mouse will >>> not >>> >>> present the problem as you don't have to exert any force opposite to >>> the >>> >>> click, the desk will do it for you. >>> >>> >>> >>> I've used an evo one (OK), an evo 2 (horrible PoS), skipped the >>> three, >>> >>> and I use an evo 4 now, or whatever was the latest and greatest last >>> year >>> >>> (the one with the sensitivity/speed leds) which is OK-ish at best
Re: OT: Mouse recommendations
Sod it, I'll just avoid using my hands altogether. http://www.amazon.com/Bili-Inc-Footime-Foot-Mouse/dp/B001CH956U A. On 25 June 2015 at 15:25, Alan Fregtman wrote: > I have always loved the Logitech MX18: > > http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Performance-Optical-Gaming-Mouse/dp/B0007Z1M50 > > The shape is very comfortable, resolution is adjustable from the hardware > (no drivers needed), the scroll is clicky (not that weighted smooth endless > scroll nonsense), middle mouse button is just a button (no sideways scroll > nonsense, no smooth/clicky scroll mode switch nonsense) and there's two > handy forward+backward buttons by the thumb area. It's just a good, > comfortable mouse. > > > On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 10:18 AM Rob Chapman wrote: > >> foolish humans, think like a primate. >> >> this has done me for several years, approaching a decade. refused a >> traditional mouse once the carpel pains started, with this there are >> none. >> >> >> http://solutions.3m.co.uk/wps/portal/3M/en_GB/ComputerAccessories/ComputerAccessories/Products/OfficeComputerEquipment/ErgonomicComputerMouse/ >> >> >> >> best >> >> Rob >> >> >> On 25 June 2015 at 13:49, Adam Seeley wrote: >> > Ok, let's give the Anker a shot.. can't go wrong for a tenner. >> > >> > The more natural grip makes good sense. >> > >> > A. >> > >> > On 25 June 2015 at 05:40, Eric Turman wrote: >> >> >> >> It's all good Raffaele, I can not imagine that a non-personal review >> of a >> >> mouse would be very useful. I think you are right about the 50-70 >> degree >> >> angle, I took a look at how I hold my Evo and my hand rolls over the >> top a >> >> bit. >> >> >> >> But on to the exciting (well, as exciting as mice get) development...I >> >> went ahead per your recommendation and ordered a wired version of the >> Anker >> >> from Amazon this morning and it came this afternoon. It feels like a >> decent >> >> and comfortable mouse, only thing is that I wish it had a flange for my >> >> pinkie so that it wouldn't rub on the desktop. It is big enough where >> it >> >> fits well in my hand but slender enough that is is well suited for my >> wife >> >> and children. The build feels solid and the buttons have a bit more >> >> resistance than the Evo. And for only $13.99 for the wired version, >> it's a >> >> steal. >> >> >> >> Cheers, >> >> -=Eric >> >> >> >> On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 2:10 AM, Raffaele Fragapane >> >> wrote: >> >>> >> >>> Hey Eric, >> >>> >> >>> All I wrote is obviously personal, I know not everybody feels that way >> >>> about the Evo, some people never adjust to it, some people can't live >> with >> >>> anything else. Well, except possibly the fact evo's research is >> sketchy >> >>> (50-70 degree is better than their 85). >> >>> The thumb thing does happen to me after prolonged use, especially if I >> >>> have to frequently hold the clicks, in which case a flat mouse will >> not >> >>> present the problem as you don't have to exert any force opposite to >> the >> >>> click, the desk will do it for you. >> >>> >> >>> I've used an evo one (OK), an evo 2 (horrible PoS), skipped the three, >> >>> and I use an evo 4 now, or whatever was the latest and greatest last >> year >> >>> (the one with the sensitivity/speed leds) which is OK-ish at best in >> my >> >>> book. At least the build quality isn't as embarrassing as the evo2, >> though >> >>> still overly light and flimsy, but the MMB is excellent (left is weak >> and >> >>> too light for me). >> >>> >> >>> I strongly encourage anyone who wants to take care of their wrists to >> >>> alternate mice that have different angles and a pen if you can, >> either by >> >>> rotation, or if you have something you will do frequently whichever >> fits >> >>> best for that task for its duration. >> >>> RSI requires repetition, cycling the stress through different parts of >> >>> your arm throughout the day is the best action you can take, unless >> you have >> >>> one very particular weakness
Re: OT: Mouse recommendations
I have always loved the Logitech MX18: http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Performance-Optical-Gaming-Mouse/dp/B0007Z1M50 The shape is very comfortable, resolution is adjustable from the hardware (no drivers needed), the scroll is clicky (not that weighted smooth endless scroll nonsense), middle mouse button is just a button (no sideways scroll nonsense, no smooth/clicky scroll mode switch nonsense) and there's two handy forward+backward buttons by the thumb area. It's just a good, comfortable mouse. On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 10:18 AM Rob Chapman wrote: > foolish humans, think like a primate. > > this has done me for several years, approaching a decade. refused a > traditional mouse once the carpel pains started, with this there are > none. > > > http://solutions.3m.co.uk/wps/portal/3M/en_GB/ComputerAccessories/ComputerAccessories/Products/OfficeComputerEquipment/ErgonomicComputerMouse/ > > > > best > > Rob > > > On 25 June 2015 at 13:49, Adam Seeley wrote: > > Ok, let's give the Anker a shot.. can't go wrong for a tenner. > > > > The more natural grip makes good sense. > > > > A. > > > > On 25 June 2015 at 05:40, Eric Turman wrote: > >> > >> It's all good Raffaele, I can not imagine that a non-personal review of > a > >> mouse would be very useful. I think you are right about the 50-70 degree > >> angle, I took a look at how I hold my Evo and my hand rolls over the > top a > >> bit. > >> > >> But on to the exciting (well, as exciting as mice get) development...I > >> went ahead per your recommendation and ordered a wired version of the > Anker > >> from Amazon this morning and it came this afternoon. It feels like a > decent > >> and comfortable mouse, only thing is that I wish it had a flange for my > >> pinkie so that it wouldn't rub on the desktop. It is big enough where it > >> fits well in my hand but slender enough that is is well suited for my > wife > >> and children. The build feels solid and the buttons have a bit more > >> resistance than the Evo. And for only $13.99 for the wired version, > it's a > >> steal. > >> > >> Cheers, > >> -=Eric > >> > >> On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 2:10 AM, Raffaele Fragapane > >> wrote: > >>> > >>> Hey Eric, > >>> > >>> All I wrote is obviously personal, I know not everybody feels that way > >>> about the Evo, some people never adjust to it, some people can't live > with > >>> anything else. Well, except possibly the fact evo's research is sketchy > >>> (50-70 degree is better than their 85). > >>> The thumb thing does happen to me after prolonged use, especially if I > >>> have to frequently hold the clicks, in which case a flat mouse will not > >>> present the problem as you don't have to exert any force opposite to > the > >>> click, the desk will do it for you. > >>> > >>> I've used an evo one (OK), an evo 2 (horrible PoS), skipped the three, > >>> and I use an evo 4 now, or whatever was the latest and greatest last > year > >>> (the one with the sensitivity/speed leds) which is OK-ish at best in my > >>> book. At least the build quality isn't as embarrassing as the evo2, > though > >>> still overly light and flimsy, but the MMB is excellent (left is weak > and > >>> too light for me). > >>> > >>> I strongly encourage anyone who wants to take care of their wrists to > >>> alternate mice that have different angles and a pen if you can, either > by > >>> rotation, or if you have something you will do frequently whichever > fits > >>> best for that task for its duration. > >>> RSI requires repetition, cycling the stress through different parts of > >>> your arm throughout the day is the best action you can take, unless > you have > >>> one very particular weakness and need to prioritize excluding that. > >>> > >>> My ideal angle remains around 50. Hold a pen or a pencil in a relaxed > >>> fashion, or just do light scribbling on a Wacom, and see where you > land, > >>> chances are whatever has that angle will be your favourite mouse :) > >>> > >>> YMMV > >>> > >>> > >>> On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 2:10 PM, Eric Turman > >>> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> Hey Raffaele, > >>>> > >>>> At that price, I'll have to p
Re: OT: Mouse recommendations
foolish humans, think like a primate. this has done me for several years, approaching a decade. refused a traditional mouse once the carpel pains started, with this there are none. http://solutions.3m.co.uk/wps/portal/3M/en_GB/ComputerAccessories/ComputerAccessories/Products/OfficeComputerEquipment/ErgonomicComputerMouse/ best Rob On 25 June 2015 at 13:49, Adam Seeley wrote: > Ok, let's give the Anker a shot.. can't go wrong for a tenner. > > The more natural grip makes good sense. > > A. > > On 25 June 2015 at 05:40, Eric Turman wrote: >> >> It's all good Raffaele, I can not imagine that a non-personal review of a >> mouse would be very useful. I think you are right about the 50-70 degree >> angle, I took a look at how I hold my Evo and my hand rolls over the top a >> bit. >> >> But on to the exciting (well, as exciting as mice get) development...I >> went ahead per your recommendation and ordered a wired version of the Anker >> from Amazon this morning and it came this afternoon. It feels like a decent >> and comfortable mouse, only thing is that I wish it had a flange for my >> pinkie so that it wouldn't rub on the desktop. It is big enough where it >> fits well in my hand but slender enough that is is well suited for my wife >> and children. The build feels solid and the buttons have a bit more >> resistance than the Evo. And for only $13.99 for the wired version, it's a >> steal. >> >> Cheers, >> -=Eric >> >> On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 2:10 AM, Raffaele Fragapane >> wrote: >>> >>> Hey Eric, >>> >>> All I wrote is obviously personal, I know not everybody feels that way >>> about the Evo, some people never adjust to it, some people can't live with >>> anything else. Well, except possibly the fact evo's research is sketchy >>> (50-70 degree is better than their 85). >>> The thumb thing does happen to me after prolonged use, especially if I >>> have to frequently hold the clicks, in which case a flat mouse will not >>> present the problem as you don't have to exert any force opposite to the >>> click, the desk will do it for you. >>> >>> I've used an evo one (OK), an evo 2 (horrible PoS), skipped the three, >>> and I use an evo 4 now, or whatever was the latest and greatest last year >>> (the one with the sensitivity/speed leds) which is OK-ish at best in my >>> book. At least the build quality isn't as embarrassing as the evo2, though >>> still overly light and flimsy, but the MMB is excellent (left is weak and >>> too light for me). >>> >>> I strongly encourage anyone who wants to take care of their wrists to >>> alternate mice that have different angles and a pen if you can, either by >>> rotation, or if you have something you will do frequently whichever fits >>> best for that task for its duration. >>> RSI requires repetition, cycling the stress through different parts of >>> your arm throughout the day is the best action you can take, unless you have >>> one very particular weakness and need to prioritize excluding that. >>> >>> My ideal angle remains around 50. Hold a pen or a pencil in a relaxed >>> fashion, or just do light scribbling on a Wacom, and see where you land, >>> chances are whatever has that angle will be your favourite mouse :) >>> >>> YMMV >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 2:10 PM, Eric Turman >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hey Raffaele, >>>> >>>> At that price, I'll have to pick up a couple of those for my children. I >>>> just wish that is had three full buttons. >>>> >>>> I have to disagree about the thumb gripping on the Evlouent 4 though, I >>>> do not have any cramping issues with the version 4 of the mouse; the >>>> buttons >>>> are very easy to press. Perhaps you used an earlier model? Also I really >>>> like having a dedicated middle button (I never could get used to clicking >>>> with the mouse wheel) >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> -=Eric >>>> >>>> On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 5:35 PM, Raffaele Fragapane >>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> http://www.amazon.com/Wireless-Vertical-Ergonomic-Optical-1600DPI/dp/B00BIFNTMC >>>>> A fraction of the price of the Evoluent and, other than the lack of >>>>> middle mouse button, a far superior mouse. >>>>> I have both, and I re
Re: OT: Mouse recommendations
Ok, let's give the Anker a shot.. can't go wrong for a tenner. The more natural grip makes good sense. A. On 25 June 2015 at 05:40, Eric Turman wrote: > It's all good Raffaele, I can not imagine that a non-personal review of a > mouse would be very useful. I think you are right about the 50-70 degree > angle, I took a look at how I hold my Evo and my hand rolls over the top a > bit. > > But on to the exciting (well, as exciting as mice get) development...I > went ahead per your recommendation and ordered a wired version of the Anker > from Amazon this morning and it came this afternoon. It feels like a decent > and comfortable mouse, only thing is that I wish it had a flange for my > pinkie so that it wouldn't rub on the desktop. It is big enough where it > fits well in my hand but slender enough that is is well suited for my wife > and children. The build feels solid and the buttons have a bit more > resistance than the Evo. And for only $13.99 for the wired version, it's a > steal. > > Cheers, > -=Eric > > On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 2:10 AM, Raffaele Fragapane < > raffsxsil...@googlemail.com> wrote: > >> Hey Eric, >> >> All I wrote is obviously personal, I know not everybody feels that way >> about the Evo, some people never adjust to it, some people can't live with >> anything else. Well, except possibly the fact evo's research is sketchy >> (50-70 degree is better than their 85). >> The thumb thing does happen to me after prolonged use, especially if I >> have to frequently hold the clicks, in which case a flat mouse will not >> present the problem as you don't have to exert any force opposite to the >> click, the desk will do it for you. >> >> I've used an evo one (OK), an evo 2 (horrible PoS), skipped the three, >> and I use an evo 4 now, or whatever was the latest and greatest last year >> (the one with the sensitivity/speed leds) which is OK-ish at best in my >> book. At least the build quality isn't as embarrassing as the evo2, though >> still overly light and flimsy, but the MMB is excellent (left is weak and >> too light for me). >> >> I strongly encourage anyone who wants to take care of their wrists to >> alternate mice that have different angles and a pen if you can, either by >> rotation, or if you have something you will do frequently whichever fits >> best for that task for its duration. >> RSI requires repetition, cycling the stress through different parts of >> your arm throughout the day is the best action you can take, unless you >> have one very particular weakness and need to prioritize excluding that. >> >> My ideal angle remains around 50. Hold a pen or a pencil in a relaxed >> fashion, or just do light scribbling on a Wacom, and see where you land, >> chances are whatever has that angle will be your favourite mouse :) >> >> YMMV >> >> >> On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 2:10 PM, Eric Turman >> wrote: >> >>> Hey Raffaele, >>> >>> At that price, I'll have to pick up a couple of those for my children. I >>> just wish that is had three full buttons. >>> >>> I have to disagree about the thumb gripping on the Evlouent 4 though, I >>> do not have any cramping issues with the version 4 of the mouse; the >>> buttons are very easy to press. Perhaps you used an earlier model? Also I >>> really like having a dedicated middle button (I never could get used to >>> clicking with the mouse wheel) >>> >>> Cheers, >>> -=Eric >>> >>> On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 5:35 PM, Raffaele Fragapane < >>> raffsxsil...@googlemail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> http://www.amazon.com/Wireless-Vertical-Ergonomic-Optical-1600DPI/dp/B00BIFNTMC >>>> A fraction of the price of the Evoluent and, other than the lack of >>>> middle mouse button, a far superior mouse. >>>> I have both, and I regret having spent the cash for an Evoluent. >>>> >>>> The Evo is also at too vertical an angle which for a lot of people, me >>>> included, means you have to oppose the clicks with your thumb strongly >>>> enough that you will get tension and cramps around it. The Anker doesn't >>>> have the issue. >>>> >>>> It's worth at the very least to try both and return the one you don't >>>> like. >>>> >>>> All in all the Evo is overrated. They were first, but their medical >>>> claims are sketchy at best, fully vertical is far from ideal for your >>>&
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It's all good Raffaele, I can not imagine that a non-personal review of a mouse would be very useful. I think you are right about the 50-70 degree angle, I took a look at how I hold my Evo and my hand rolls over the top a bit. But on to the exciting (well, as exciting as mice get) development...I went ahead per your recommendation and ordered a wired version of the Anker from Amazon this morning and it came this afternoon. It feels like a decent and comfortable mouse, only thing is that I wish it had a flange for my pinkie so that it wouldn't rub on the desktop. It is big enough where it fits well in my hand but slender enough that is is well suited for my wife and children. The build feels solid and the buttons have a bit more resistance than the Evo. And for only $13.99 for the wired version, it's a steal. Cheers, -=Eric On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 2:10 AM, Raffaele Fragapane < raffsxsil...@googlemail.com> wrote: > Hey Eric, > > All I wrote is obviously personal, I know not everybody feels that way > about the Evo, some people never adjust to it, some people can't live with > anything else. Well, except possibly the fact evo's research is sketchy > (50-70 degree is better than their 85). > The thumb thing does happen to me after prolonged use, especially if I > have to frequently hold the clicks, in which case a flat mouse will not > present the problem as you don't have to exert any force opposite to the > click, the desk will do it for you. > > I've used an evo one (OK), an evo 2 (horrible PoS), skipped the three, and > I use an evo 4 now, or whatever was the latest and greatest last year (the > one with the sensitivity/speed leds) which is OK-ish at best in my book. At > least the build quality isn't as embarrassing as the evo2, though still > overly light and flimsy, but the MMB is excellent (left is weak and too > light for me). > > I strongly encourage anyone who wants to take care of their wrists to > alternate mice that have different angles and a pen if you can, either by > rotation, or if you have something you will do frequently whichever fits > best for that task for its duration. > RSI requires repetition, cycling the stress through different parts of > your arm throughout the day is the best action you can take, unless you > have one very particular weakness and need to prioritize excluding that. > > My ideal angle remains around 50. Hold a pen or a pencil in a relaxed > fashion, or just do light scribbling on a Wacom, and see where you land, > chances are whatever has that angle will be your favourite mouse :) > > YMMV > > > On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 2:10 PM, Eric Turman wrote: > >> Hey Raffaele, >> >> At that price, I'll have to pick up a couple of those for my children. I >> just wish that is had three full buttons. >> >> I have to disagree about the thumb gripping on the Evlouent 4 though, I >> do not have any cramping issues with the version 4 of the mouse; the >> buttons are very easy to press. Perhaps you used an earlier model? Also I >> really like having a dedicated middle button (I never could get used to >> clicking with the mouse wheel) >> >> Cheers, >> -=Eric >> >> On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 5:35 PM, Raffaele Fragapane < >> raffsxsil...@googlemail.com> wrote: >> >>> >>> http://www.amazon.com/Wireless-Vertical-Ergonomic-Optical-1600DPI/dp/B00BIFNTMC >>> A fraction of the price of the Evoluent and, other than the lack of >>> middle mouse button, a far superior mouse. >>> I have both, and I regret having spent the cash for an Evoluent. >>> >>> The Evo is also at too vertical an angle which for a lot of people, me >>> included, means you have to oppose the clicks with your thumb strongly >>> enough that you will get tension and cramps around it. The Anker doesn't >>> have the issue. >>> >>> It's worth at the very least to try both and return the one you don't >>> like. >>> >>> All in all the Evo is overrated. They were first, but their medical >>> claims are sketchy at best, fully vertical is far from ideal for your >>> wrist. The ideal is to alternate between pen and two angles of mouse >>> throughout the day. It's what I do at home, and pen + evo at work. >>> >>> On Mon, Jun 22, 2015 at 10:52 PM, Eric Turman >>> wrote: >>> >>>> After my wrists got jacked up around 8 years ago, I switched to a wired >>>> version of this mouse: >>>> >>>> http://www.thehumansolution.com/evoluent-wireless-vertical-mouse-vm4w.html >>>> -- >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -=T=- >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Our users will know fear and cower before our software! Ship it! Ship it >>> and let them flee like the dogs they are! >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> >> >> >> -=T=- >> > > > > -- > Our users will know fear and cower before our software! Ship it! Ship it > and let them flee like the dogs they are! > -- -=T=-
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It wouldn't surprise if 50-70 degrees is the best angle for human hands. My hand naturally rolls over the top of the Evoluent mouse to about that angle; not the 'handshake' grip angle they promote. I use the Evo 2 & 3 and think they are great for 3d work.
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Hey Eric, All I wrote is obviously personal, I know not everybody feels that way about the Evo, some people never adjust to it, some people can't live with anything else. Well, except possibly the fact evo's research is sketchy (50-70 degree is better than their 85). The thumb thing does happen to me after prolonged use, especially if I have to frequently hold the clicks, in which case a flat mouse will not present the problem as you don't have to exert any force opposite to the click, the desk will do it for you. I've used an evo one (OK), an evo 2 (horrible PoS), skipped the three, and I use an evo 4 now, or whatever was the latest and greatest last year (the one with the sensitivity/speed leds) which is OK-ish at best in my book. At least the build quality isn't as embarrassing as the evo2, though still overly light and flimsy, but the MMB is excellent (left is weak and too light for me). I strongly encourage anyone who wants to take care of their wrists to alternate mice that have different angles and a pen if you can, either by rotation, or if you have something you will do frequently whichever fits best for that task for its duration. RSI requires repetition, cycling the stress through different parts of your arm throughout the day is the best action you can take, unless you have one very particular weakness and need to prioritize excluding that. My ideal angle remains around 50. Hold a pen or a pencil in a relaxed fashion, or just do light scribbling on a Wacom, and see where you land, chances are whatever has that angle will be your favourite mouse :) YMMV On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 2:10 PM, Eric Turman wrote: > Hey Raffaele, > > At that price, I'll have to pick up a couple of those for my children. I > just wish that is had three full buttons. > > I have to disagree about the thumb gripping on the Evlouent 4 though, I do > not have any cramping issues with the version 4 of the mouse; the buttons > are very easy to press. Perhaps you used an earlier model? Also I really > like having a dedicated middle button (I never could get used to clicking > with the mouse wheel) > > Cheers, > -=Eric > > On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 5:35 PM, Raffaele Fragapane < > raffsxsil...@googlemail.com> wrote: > >> >> http://www.amazon.com/Wireless-Vertical-Ergonomic-Optical-1600DPI/dp/B00BIFNTMC >> A fraction of the price of the Evoluent and, other than the lack of >> middle mouse button, a far superior mouse. >> I have both, and I regret having spent the cash for an Evoluent. >> >> The Evo is also at too vertical an angle which for a lot of people, me >> included, means you have to oppose the clicks with your thumb strongly >> enough that you will get tension and cramps around it. The Anker doesn't >> have the issue. >> >> It's worth at the very least to try both and return the one you don't >> like. >> >> All in all the Evo is overrated. They were first, but their medical >> claims are sketchy at best, fully vertical is far from ideal for your >> wrist. The ideal is to alternate between pen and two angles of mouse >> throughout the day. It's what I do at home, and pen + evo at work. >> >> On Mon, Jun 22, 2015 at 10:52 PM, Eric Turman >> wrote: >> >>> After my wrists got jacked up around 8 years ago, I switched to a wired >>> version of this mouse: >>> >>> http://www.thehumansolution.com/evoluent-wireless-vertical-mouse-vm4w.html >>> -- >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -=T=- >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Our users will know fear and cower before our software! Ship it! Ship it >> and let them flee like the dogs they are! >> > > > > -- > > > > > -=T=- > -- Our users will know fear and cower before our software! Ship it! Ship it and let them flee like the dogs they are!
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Hey Raffaele, At that price, I'll have to pick up a couple of those for my children. I just wish that is had three full buttons. I have to disagree about the thumb gripping on the Evlouent 4 though, I do not have any cramping issues with the version 4 of the mouse; the buttons are very easy to press. Perhaps you used an earlier model? Also I really like having a dedicated middle button (I never could get used to clicking with the mouse wheel) Cheers, -=Eric On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 5:35 PM, Raffaele Fragapane < raffsxsil...@googlemail.com> wrote: > > http://www.amazon.com/Wireless-Vertical-Ergonomic-Optical-1600DPI/dp/B00BIFNTMC > A fraction of the price of the Evoluent and, other than the lack of middle > mouse button, a far superior mouse. > I have both, and I regret having spent the cash for an Evoluent. > > The Evo is also at too vertical an angle which for a lot of people, me > included, means you have to oppose the clicks with your thumb strongly > enough that you will get tension and cramps around it. The Anker doesn't > have the issue. > > It's worth at the very least to try both and return the one you don't like. > > All in all the Evo is overrated. They were first, but their medical claims > are sketchy at best, fully vertical is far from ideal for your wrist. The > ideal is to alternate between pen and two angles of mouse throughout the > day. It's what I do at home, and pen + evo at work. > > On Mon, Jun 22, 2015 at 10:52 PM, Eric Turman > wrote: > >> After my wrists got jacked up around 8 years ago, I switched to a wired >> version of this mouse: >> http://www.thehumansolution.com/evoluent-wireless-vertical-mouse-vm4w.html >> -- >> >> >> >> >> -=T=- >> > > > > -- > Our users will know fear and cower before our software! Ship it! Ship it > and let them flee like the dogs they are! > -- -=T=-
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I have the Logitech 602 wireless an its extremely comfortable to use. Has a nice non slip finish that makes it suitable for long hours. It also just keeps on chugging unlike my Razer Mamba which bricked itself after the first firmware update ;( From: Doeke Wartena [doeke.wart...@gmail.com] Sent: 24 June 2015 12:01 AM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: OT: Mouse recommendations whatever you buy, don't get a razer. I had 3 razers, 2 of them broke, I gave the other one away cause it made my hand really hurt after a days of gaming (it was to flat) :D I love my logitech g502, I had a logitech g300 or something like that before which was also really great. Logitech also has good waranty. I heard some good things about the final mouse (mentioned above) as well. 2015-06-23 19:29 GMT+02:00 Sam Cuttriss mailto:tea...@gmail.com>>: cheap as chips: http://www.amazon.com/Redragon-Precision-Programmable-programmable-Cartridge/dp/B00GU4F4OM/ On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 8:57 AM, Ed Manning mailto:etmth...@gmail.com>> wrote: http://ergo.contour-design.com/ergonomic-mouse/contour-mouse On Monday, June 22, 2015, Adam Seeley mailto:adammsee...@gmail.com>> wrote: Hi Folks, I'm need of a decent mouse, tired of squeezing my hand around a small one (fnar!) .. any glowing recommendations out there? Ideally wireless with a dock. Logitech performance seems popular. http://www.amazon.co.uk/Logitech-Performance-MX-Wireless-Mouse/dp/B002L3TSKC/ Thasnk, Adam. This communication is intended for the addressee only. It is confidential. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately and destroy the original message. You may not copy or disseminate this communication without the permission of the University. Only authorised signatories are competent to enter into agreements on behalf of the University and recipients are thus advised that the content of this message may not be legally binding on the University and may contain the personal views and opinions of the author, which are not necessarily the views and opinions of The University of the Witwatersrand, Johannesburg. All agreements between the University and outsiders are subject to South African Law unless the University agrees in writing to the contrary.
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http://www.amazon.com/Wireless-Vertical-Ergonomic-Optical-1600DPI/dp/B00BIFNTMC A fraction of the price of the Evoluent and, other than the lack of middle mouse button, a far superior mouse. I have both, and I regret having spent the cash for an Evoluent. The Evo is also at too vertical an angle which for a lot of people, me included, means you have to oppose the clicks with your thumb strongly enough that you will get tension and cramps around it. The Anker doesn't have the issue. It's worth at the very least to try both and return the one you don't like. All in all the Evo is overrated. They were first, but their medical claims are sketchy at best, fully vertical is far from ideal for your wrist. The ideal is to alternate between pen and two angles of mouse throughout the day. It's what I do at home, and pen + evo at work. On Mon, Jun 22, 2015 at 10:52 PM, Eric Turman wrote: > After my wrists got jacked up around 8 years ago, I switched to a wired > version of this mouse: > http://www.thehumansolution.com/evoluent-wireless-vertical-mouse-vm4w.html > -- > > > > > -=T=- > -- Our users will know fear and cower before our software! Ship it! Ship it and let them flee like the dogs they are!
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whatever you buy, don't get a razer. I had 3 razers, 2 of them broke, I gave the other one away cause it made my hand really hurt after a days of gaming (it was to flat) :D I love my logitech g502, I had a logitech g300 or something like that before which was also really great. Logitech also has good waranty. I heard some good things about the final mouse (mentioned above) as well. 2015-06-23 19:29 GMT+02:00 Sam Cuttriss : > cheap as chips: > http://www.amazon.com/Redragon-Precision-Programmable-programmable-Cartridge/dp/B00GU4F4OM/ > > On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 8:57 AM, Ed Manning wrote: > >> http://ergo.contour-design.com/ergonomic-mouse/contour-mouse >> >> >> On Monday, June 22, 2015, Adam Seeley wrote: >> >>> Hi Folks, >>> >>> I'm need of a decent mouse, tired of squeezing my hand around a small >>> one (fnar!) >>> >>> .. any glowing recommendations out there? >>> >>> Ideally wireless with a dock. >>> >>> Logitech performance seems popular. >>> >>> http://www.amazon.co.uk/Logitech-Performance-MX-Wireless-Mouse/dp/B002L3TSKC/ >>> >>> Thasnk, >>> >>> Adam. >>> >>> >>> >
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I agree with Eric, the Evoluent Vertical mouse is very good. Give your muscles a few days to embrace the vertical format.
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I agree with Eric, the Evoluent Vertical mouse is very good. Give your muscles a few days to embrace the vertical format.
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cheap as chips: http://www.amazon.com/Redragon-Precision-Programmable-programmable-Cartridge/dp/B00GU4F4OM/ On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 8:57 AM, Ed Manning wrote: > http://ergo.contour-design.com/ergonomic-mouse/contour-mouse > > > On Monday, June 22, 2015, Adam Seeley wrote: > >> Hi Folks, >> >> I'm need of a decent mouse, tired of squeezing my hand around a small one >> (fnar!) >> >> .. any glowing recommendations out there? >> >> Ideally wireless with a dock. >> >> Logitech performance seems popular. >> >> http://www.amazon.co.uk/Logitech-Performance-MX-Wireless-Mouse/dp/B002L3TSKC/ >> >> Thasnk, >> >> Adam. >> >> >>
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http://ergo.contour-design.com/ergonomic-mouse/contour-mouse On Monday, June 22, 2015, Adam Seeley wrote: > Hi Folks, > > I'm need of a decent mouse, tired of squeezing my hand around a small one > (fnar!) > > .. any glowing recommendations out there? > > Ideally wireless with a dock. > > Logitech performance seems popular. > > http://www.amazon.co.uk/Logitech-Performance-MX-Wireless-Mouse/dp/B002L3TSKC/ > > Thasnk, > > Adam. > > >
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Thanks, A short list of 4 is a good start. A. On 22 June 2015 at 13:52, Eric Turman wrote: > After my wrists got jacked up around 8 years ago, I switched to a wired > version of this mouse: > http://www.thehumansolution.com/evoluent-wireless-vertical-mouse-vm4w.html > -- > > > > > -=T=- >
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After my wrists got jacked up around 8 years ago, I switched to a wired version of this mouse: http://www.thehumansolution.com/evoluent-wireless-vertical-mouse-vm4w.html -- -=T=-
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tablet and pen :) On Mon, Jun 22, 2015 at 2:21 PM, James De Colling wrote: > i swear by the steelseries stuff, have been using them exclusively for a > few years now > > On Mon, Jun 22, 2015 at 10:19 PM, Ognjen Vukovic > wrote: > >> The mx has an crapy scroll with no actuation points , go with the g400s :) >> cant beat it. >> >> On Mon, Jun 22, 2015 at 2:05 PM, Artur Woźniak >> wrote: >> >>> http://finalmouse.com/ >>> >>> 2015-06-22 13:42 GMT+02:00 Adam Seeley : >>> >>>> Hi Folks, >>>> >>>> I'm need of a decent mouse, tired of squeezing my hand around a small >>>> one (fnar!) >>>> >>>> .. any glowing recommendations out there? >>>> >>>> Ideally wireless with a dock. >>>> >>>> Logitech performance seems popular. >>>> >>>> http://www.amazon.co.uk/Logitech-Performance-MX-Wireless-Mouse/dp/B002L3TSKC/ >>>> >>>> Thasnk, >>>> >>>> Adam. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >> >
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i swear by the steelseries stuff, have been using them exclusively for a few years now On Mon, Jun 22, 2015 at 10:19 PM, Ognjen Vukovic wrote: > The mx has an crapy scroll with no actuation points , go with the g400s :) > cant beat it. > > On Mon, Jun 22, 2015 at 2:05 PM, Artur Woźniak > wrote: > >> http://finalmouse.com/ >> >> 2015-06-22 13:42 GMT+02:00 Adam Seeley : >> >>> Hi Folks, >>> >>> I'm need of a decent mouse, tired of squeezing my hand around a small >>> one (fnar!) >>> >>> .. any glowing recommendations out there? >>> >>> Ideally wireless with a dock. >>> >>> Logitech performance seems popular. >>> >>> http://www.amazon.co.uk/Logitech-Performance-MX-Wireless-Mouse/dp/B002L3TSKC/ >>> >>> Thasnk, >>> >>> Adam. >>> >>> >>> >> >
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The mx has an crapy scroll with no actuation points , go with the g400s :) cant beat it. On Mon, Jun 22, 2015 at 2:05 PM, Artur Woźniak wrote: > http://finalmouse.com/ > > 2015-06-22 13:42 GMT+02:00 Adam Seeley : > >> Hi Folks, >> >> I'm need of a decent mouse, tired of squeezing my hand around a small one >> (fnar!) >> >> .. any glowing recommendations out there? >> >> Ideally wireless with a dock. >> >> Logitech performance seems popular. >> >> http://www.amazon.co.uk/Logitech-Performance-MX-Wireless-Mouse/dp/B002L3TSKC/ >> >> Thasnk, >> >> Adam. >> >> >> >
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http://finalmouse.com/ 2015-06-22 13:42 GMT+02:00 Adam Seeley : > Hi Folks, > > I'm need of a decent mouse, tired of squeezing my hand around a small one > (fnar!) > > .. any glowing recommendations out there? > > Ideally wireless with a dock. > > Logitech performance seems popular. > > http://www.amazon.co.uk/Logitech-Performance-MX-Wireless-Mouse/dp/B002L3TSKC/ > > Thasnk, > > Adam. > > >
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Hi Folks, I'm need of a decent mouse, tired of squeezing my hand around a small one (fnar!) .. any glowing recommendations out there? Ideally wireless with a dock. Logitech performance seems popular. http://www.amazon.co.uk/Logitech-Performance-MX-Wireless-Mouse/dp/B002L3TSKC/ Thasnk, Adam.
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The Contour mouse looks great!! A little expensive here though, US$110 at Amazon JP. But it may worth a try. I only want to be able to middle click without stress and have a few extra buttons, that's harder to find than it sounds. The Logitech G400 was a very good gamer mouse, I think that was the last Logitech I bought and didn't return. The Logitech Performance MX... I think that was my last Logitech that I did returned. In my amazon's record it's called M950T. The middle click was some sort of double step button where you had to press it deep to click, otherwise it would be just a useless wheel. Rolling the wheel like 100 rps with one move felt pretty good I must confess, but not very useful. About the second monitor, that's another reason why I need a mouse, to control my second monitor. I like to work with a M size pen tablet mapped to only one monitor. I guess a big L size tablet would fix my problems but I would lose too much desk and my Natural Keyboard is already huge. Thanks Martin On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 4:17 AM, Byron Nash wrote: > @Ed, http://ergo.contour-design.com/ergonomic-mouse/contour-mouse We have > one here and I like using it. The scroll wheel on the thumb is nice. > > On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 2:56 PM, Ed Manning wrote: > >> Does anyone know of a decent true 3-*button* mouse? I.e. not a scroll >> wheel, but an honest-to-goodness button in the middle? I've been trying to >> find one for years that isn't just some old-stock ball-driven mouse. >> > >
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@sven, I'm also using a similar vertical monitor setup. I have it on the right though. I find I like the extra vertical space when dealing with layers in an AE comp. Haven't found my ideal Softimage setup for it yet. On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 5:08 PM, Sven Constable wrote: > I'm also using wacoms everywhere. Regarding the dual monitor 'problem', I > came up with this: If you have two 16:10 screens and you put one in > portrait mode/vertical, the resulting area is nearly 16:10 again. So you > can use the tablet with 1to1 proportions (no remapping from the wacom > surface to the screen surface) und you utilitize the entire surface of the > tablet. Well not exactly because theres a blind spot in one corner. > > > > With Softimage I'd like to have at least one big sceen for editors/ICE > etc. So these will use the second (horizontal) monitor and the primary is > for everything else. But I can switch to have the user cam view on the big > screen and some other combinations on the fly > > > > Looks like this: > http://www.imagefront.de/tmp/softimage_dual_24inch_screens.jpg > > > > cheers, > > sven > > > > *From:* softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto: > softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] *On Behalf Of *Byron Nash > *Sent:* Tuesday, September 30, 2014 4:55 PM > *To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com > *Subject:* Re: Mouse > > > > I'm with Gerbrand, I don't currently have a mouse connected. I've used a > Wacom solely since the late 90's. I just wish Wacom made a dual monitor > aspect ratio model. > > > > On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 10:52 AM, Gerbrand Nel wrote: > > I don't even have a mouse > Wacom everything, even counterstrike and COD :) > G > > > On 2014-09-30 04:30 PM, Stephen Davidson wrote: > > I have used the Logitech performance wireless mouse > > http://www.logitech.com/en-us/product/performance-mouse-mx > > > > for over 5 years. Good, overall. > > Complaints? needs recharging often. The buttons will eventually wear > out > > over time. For the pricegood value. > > > > On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 6:35 AM, Martin Yara wrote: > > Hi ! > > > > It isn't a very common topic in this list, but what mouse are you using ? > > do anyone use a trackball? or something else? like a 3d connexion space > navigator ? > > > > My mouse middle button is kinda broken lately (double clicks when I'm > single clicking or simply doesn't do anything) so I'm looking for buying a > new one. Do you have any recommendation? > > > > I used to like Logitech mice but since they changed to a metallic wheel > that is almost unusable I don't buy them anymore. The last one costed me > $100+ and had to return it the next day because the new wheel was a piece > of garbage. > > > > And since we use a middle click quite a lot, I'm looking for something > that isn't extremely hard to click like those Logitech and some Microsoft > ones. > > > > I'm using a Razer Deathadder right now and so far it was perfect, until my > middle click started to fail sometimes. I would buy a new Deathadder, even > if it is named Deathadder, but Razer's new cloud based drivers that require > internet connection and an account are a deal breaker for me. Specially if > there is a possibility that I'll have to work in my client's office. > > > > Talking about middle click, Surface Pro 3 doesn't have a middle click, and > the stencil buttons are unusable in anything but Microsoft OneNote or > something like that, and are not configurable. At all. > > /SP3 rant off. > > > > cheers, > > > > Martin > > > > > > -- > > Best Regards, > * Stephen P. Davidson* > > * (954) 552-7956 <%28954%29%20552-7956>* > sdavid...@3danimationmagic.com > > *Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic* > > >- Arthur C. Clarke > > <http://www.3danimationmagic.com> > > > > >
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I'm also using wacoms everywhere. Regarding the dual monitor 'problem', I came up with this: If you have two 16:10 screens and you put one in portrait mode/vertical, the resulting area is nearly 16:10 again. So you can use the tablet with 1to1 proportions (no remapping from the wacom surface to the screen surface) und you utilitize the entire surface of the tablet. Well not exactly because theres a blind spot in one corner. With Softimage I'd like to have at least one big sceen for editors/ICE etc. So these will use the second (horizontal) monitor and the primary is for everything else. But I can switch to have the user cam view on the big screen and some other combinations on the fly Looks like this: http://www.imagefront.de/tmp/softimage_dual_24inch_screens.jpg cheers, sven From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Byron Nash Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2014 4:55 PM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: Mouse I'm with Gerbrand, I don't currently have a mouse connected. I've used a Wacom solely since the late 90's. I just wish Wacom made a dual monitor aspect ratio model. On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 10:52 AM, Gerbrand Nel wrote: I don't even have a mouse Wacom everything, even counterstrike and COD :) G On 2014-09-30 04:30 PM, Stephen Davidson wrote: I have used the Logitech performance wireless mouse http://www.logitech.com/en-us/product/performance-mouse-mx for over 5 years. Good, overall. Complaints? needs recharging often. The buttons will eventually wear out over time. For the pricegood value. On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 6:35 AM, Martin Yara wrote: Hi ! It isn't a very common topic in this list, but what mouse are you using ? do anyone use a trackball? or something else? like a 3d connexion space navigator ? My mouse middle button is kinda broken lately (double clicks when I'm single clicking or simply doesn't do anything) so I'm looking for buying a new one. Do you have any recommendation? I used to like Logitech mice but since they changed to a metallic wheel that is almost unusable I don't buy them anymore. The last one costed me $100+ and had to return it the next day because the new wheel was a piece of garbage. And since we use a middle click quite a lot, I'm looking for something that isn't extremely hard to click like those Logitech and some Microsoft ones. I'm using a Razer Deathadder right now and so far it was perfect, until my middle click started to fail sometimes. I would buy a new Deathadder, even if it is named Deathadder, but Razer's new cloud based drivers that require internet connection and an account are a deal breaker for me. Specially if there is a possibility that I'll have to work in my client's office. Talking about middle click, Surface Pro 3 doesn't have a middle click, and the stencil buttons are unusable in anything but Microsoft OneNote or something like that, and are not configurable. At all. /SP3 rant off. cheers, Martin -- Best Regards, Stephen P. Davidson (954) 552-7956 sdavid...@3danimationmagic.com Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic - Arthur C. Clarke <http://www.3danimationmagic.com>
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...and if you really want to get into battery recharging, the LaCrosse Alpha Power Battery Charger is one of the best (if not overpriced) battery chargers I've ever owned. All my mice use batteries. All my batteries use this charger. For the "battery geek" it's perfect. http://www.amazon.com/La-Crosse-Technology-Battery-Charger/dp/B000RSOV50 Ed From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Stephen Davidson Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2014 4:02 PM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: Mouse I forgot tho mention... About the rechargeable Energizer batteries...I have four, with a recharger, so when the battery goes dead, I just switch it out with a charged one, and put the dead one in the charger. I just hate a wired mouse. Worth it for me to have a wireless mouse. On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 3:54 PM, Stephen Davidson mailto:magic...@bellsouth.net>> wrote: I agree with Paul, about the Logitech Performance MX mouse eating batteries. Paul, I replaced my rechargeable battery with an energizer nh15<http://www.amazon.com/Energizer-NH15-Pre-Charged-Rechargeable-Batteries/dp/B00I9KXJ8I> which now gives me 3-4 days of constant use. Still not great but better. On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 12:22 PM, Paul Griswold mailto:pgrisw...@fusiondigitalproductions.com>> wrote: Avoid the Logitech Performance MX mouse. Not because of ergonomics but because it eats batteries. It comes with an Eneloop rechargeable and can be used while recharging, but the problem I've had since day one is, it rarely lasts more than 4-6 hours. Logitech replaced mine under warranty and the new one performs exactly the same, so it seems like that's all it can do. I ended up just using it as a wired mouse, which defeats the purpose. Personally I have bigger hands, so I like to have a big mouse. The MX is large, but honestly not large enough. This image gives some good idea about sizes, but it hasn't been updated since 2012: http://cdn.overclock.net/1/1f/1fea65b7_Mouse-Sizing-Chart.jpeg Don't skimp on your mouse, keyboard, monitor(s) or chair. You use them all day every day, so why be uncomfortable. -Paul On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 12:10 PM, Emilio Hernandez mailto:emi...@e-roja.com>> wrote: I switched to a Wacom 12 years ago. I was still using an old typical Dell mouse for SI around 4 years ago. But since I started sculpting in Zbrush and going back and forth from Zbrush to Softimage, I started using the stylus more and more in Softimage. I still keep clean my old mouse but it is very fat now --- Emilio Hernández VFX & 3D animation. 2014-09-30 9:54 GMT-05:00 Byron Nash mailto:byronn...@gmail.com>>: I'm with Gerbrand, I don't currently have a mouse connected. I've used a Wacom solely since the late 90's. I just wish Wacom made a dual monitor aspect ratio model. On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 10:52 AM, Gerbrand Nel mailto:nagv...@gmail.com>> wrote: I don't even have a mouse Wacom everything, even counterstrike and COD :) G On 2014-09-30 04:30 PM, Stephen Davidson wrote: I have used the Logitech performance wireless mouse http://www.logitech.com/en-us/product/performance-mouse-mx for over 5 years. Good, overall. Complaints? needs recharging often. The buttons will eventually wear out over time. For the pricegood value. On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 6:35 AM, Martin Yara mailto:furik...@gmail.com>> wrote: Hi ! It isn't a very common topic in this list, but what mouse are you using ? do anyone use a trackball? or something else? like a 3d connexion space navigator ? My mouse middle button is kinda broken lately (double clicks when I'm single clicking or simply doesn't do anything) so I'm looking for buying a new one. Do you have any recommendation? I used to like Logitech mice but since they changed to a metallic wheel that is almost unusable I don't buy them anymore. The last one costed me $100+ and had to return it the next day because the new wheel was a piece of garbage. And since we use a middle click quite a lot, I'm looking for something that isn't extremely hard to click like those Logitech and some Microsoft ones. I'm using a Razer Deathadder right now and so far it was perfect, until my middle click started to fail sometimes. I would buy a new Deathadder, even if it is named Deathadder, but Razer's new cloud based drivers that require internet connection and an account are a deal breaker for me. Specially if there is a possibility that I'll have to work in my client's office. Talking about middle click, Surface Pro 3 doesn't have a middle click, and the stencil buttons are unusable in anything but Microsoft OneNote or something like that, and are not configurable. At all. /SP3 rant off. c
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I forgot tho mention... About the rechargeable Energizer batteries...I have four, with a recharger, so when the battery goes dead, I just switch it out with a charged one, and put the dead one in the charger. I just hate a wired mouse. Worth it for me to have a wireless mouse. On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 3:54 PM, Stephen Davidson wrote: > I agree with Paul, about the Logitech Performance MX mouse eating > batteries. > Paul, I replaced my rechargeable battery with an energizer nh15 > <http://www.amazon.com/Energizer-NH15-Pre-Charged-Rechargeable-Batteries/dp/B00I9KXJ8I> > which now gives me 3-4 days of constant use. Still not great but better. > > On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 12:22 PM, Paul Griswold < > pgrisw...@fusiondigitalproductions.com> wrote: > >> Avoid the Logitech Performance MX mouse. Not because of ergonomics but >> because it eats batteries. It comes with an Eneloop rechargeable and can >> be used while recharging, but the problem I've had since day one is, it >> rarely lasts more than 4-6 hours. Logitech replaced mine under warranty >> and the new one performs exactly the same, so it seems like that's all it >> can do. I ended up just using it as a wired mouse, which defeats the >> purpose. >> >> Personally I have bigger hands, so I like to have a big mouse. The MX is >> large, but honestly not large enough. This image gives some good idea >> about sizes, but it hasn't been updated since 2012: >> >> http://cdn.overclock.net/1/1f/1fea65b7_Mouse-Sizing-Chart.jpeg >> >> Don't skimp on your mouse, keyboard, monitor(s) or chair. You use them >> all day every day, so why be uncomfortable. >> >> -Paul >> >> >> >> >> On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 12:10 PM, Emilio Hernandez >> wrote: >> >>> I switched to a Wacom 12 years ago. >>> >>> I was still using an old typical Dell mouse for SI around 4 years ago. >>> But since I started sculpting in Zbrush and going back and forth from >>> Zbrush to Softimage, I started using the stylus more and more in >>> Softimage. I still keep clean my old mouse but it is very fat now >>> >>> --- >>> Emilio Hernández VFX & 3D animation. >>> >>> 2014-09-30 9:54 GMT-05:00 Byron Nash : >>> >>> I'm with Gerbrand, I don't currently have a mouse connected. I've used a >>>> Wacom solely since the late 90's. I just wish Wacom made a dual monitor >>>> aspect ratio model. >>>> >>>> On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 10:52 AM, Gerbrand Nel >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I don't even have a mouse >>>>> Wacom everything, even counterstrike and COD :) >>>>> G >>>>> >>>>> On 2014-09-30 04:30 PM, Stephen Davidson wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I have used the Logitech performance wireless mouse >>>>> http://www.logitech.com/en-us/product/performance-mouse-mx >>>>> >>>>> for over 5 years. Good, overall. >>>>> Complaints? needs recharging often. The buttons will eventually >>>>> wear out >>>>> over time. For the pricegood value. >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 6:35 AM, Martin Yara >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi ! >>>>>> >>>>>> It isn't a very common topic in this list, but what mouse are you >>>>>> using ? >>>>>> do anyone use a trackball? or something else? like a 3d connexion >>>>>> space navigator ? >>>>>> >>>>>> My mouse middle button is kinda broken lately (double clicks when >>>>>> I'm single clicking or simply doesn't do anything) so I'm looking for >>>>>> buying a new one. Do you have any recommendation? >>>>>> >>>>>> I used to like Logitech mice but since they changed to a metallic >>>>>> wheel that is almost unusable I don't buy them anymore. The last one >>>>>> costed >>>>>> me $100+ and had to return it the next day because the new wheel was a >>>>>> piece of garbage. >>>>>> >>>>>> And since we use a middle click quite a lot, I'm looking for >>>>>> something that isn't extremely hard to click like those Logitech and some >>>>>> Microsoft ones.
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I agree with Paul, about the Logitech Performance MX mouse eating batteries. Paul, I replaced my rechargeable battery with an energizer nh15 <http://www.amazon.com/Energizer-NH15-Pre-Charged-Rechargeable-Batteries/dp/B00I9KXJ8I> which now gives me 3-4 days of constant use. Still not great but better. On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 12:22 PM, Paul Griswold < pgrisw...@fusiondigitalproductions.com> wrote: > Avoid the Logitech Performance MX mouse. Not because of ergonomics but > because it eats batteries. It comes with an Eneloop rechargeable and can > be used while recharging, but the problem I've had since day one is, it > rarely lasts more than 4-6 hours. Logitech replaced mine under warranty > and the new one performs exactly the same, so it seems like that's all it > can do. I ended up just using it as a wired mouse, which defeats the > purpose. > > Personally I have bigger hands, so I like to have a big mouse. The MX is > large, but honestly not large enough. This image gives some good idea > about sizes, but it hasn't been updated since 2012: > > http://cdn.overclock.net/1/1f/1fea65b7_Mouse-Sizing-Chart.jpeg > > Don't skimp on your mouse, keyboard, monitor(s) or chair. You use them > all day every day, so why be uncomfortable. > > -Paul > > > > > On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 12:10 PM, Emilio Hernandez > wrote: > >> I switched to a Wacom 12 years ago. >> >> I was still using an old typical Dell mouse for SI around 4 years ago. >> But since I started sculpting in Zbrush and going back and forth from >> Zbrush to Softimage, I started using the stylus more and more in >> Softimage. I still keep clean my old mouse but it is very fat now >> >> --- >> Emilio Hernández VFX & 3D animation. >> >> 2014-09-30 9:54 GMT-05:00 Byron Nash : >> >> I'm with Gerbrand, I don't currently have a mouse connected. I've used a >>> Wacom solely since the late 90's. I just wish Wacom made a dual monitor >>> aspect ratio model. >>> >>> On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 10:52 AM, Gerbrand Nel >>> wrote: >>> >>>> I don't even have a mouse >>>> Wacom everything, even counterstrike and COD :) >>>> G >>>> >>>> On 2014-09-30 04:30 PM, Stephen Davidson wrote: >>>> >>>> I have used the Logitech performance wireless mouse >>>> http://www.logitech.com/en-us/product/performance-mouse-mx >>>> >>>> for over 5 years. Good, overall. >>>> Complaints? needs recharging often. The buttons will eventually >>>> wear out >>>> over time. For the pricegood value. >>>> >>>> On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 6:35 AM, Martin Yara >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi ! >>>>> >>>>> It isn't a very common topic in this list, but what mouse are you >>>>> using ? >>>>> do anyone use a trackball? or something else? like a 3d connexion >>>>> space navigator ? >>>>> >>>>> My mouse middle button is kinda broken lately (double clicks when >>>>> I'm single clicking or simply doesn't do anything) so I'm looking for >>>>> buying a new one. Do you have any recommendation? >>>>> >>>>> I used to like Logitech mice but since they changed to a metallic >>>>> wheel that is almost unusable I don't buy them anymore. The last one >>>>> costed >>>>> me $100+ and had to return it the next day because the new wheel was a >>>>> piece of garbage. >>>>> >>>>> And since we use a middle click quite a lot, I'm looking for >>>>> something that isn't extremely hard to click like those Logitech and some >>>>> Microsoft ones. >>>>> >>>>> I'm using a Razer Deathadder right now and so far it was perfect, >>>>> until my middle click started to fail sometimes. I would buy a new >>>>> Deathadder, even if it is named Deathadder, but Razer's new cloud based >>>>> drivers that require internet connection and an account are a deal breaker >>>>> for me. Specially if there is a possibility that I'll have to work in my >>>>> client's office. >>>>> >>>>> Talking about middle click, Surface Pro 3 doesn't have a middle >>>>> click, and the stencil buttons are unusable in anything but Microsoft >>>>> OneNote or something like that, and are not configurable. At all. >>>>> /SP3 rant off. >>>>> >>>>> cheers, >>>>> >>>>> Martin >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> Best Regards, >>>> * Stephen P. Davidson* >>>> >>>> *(954) 552-7956 <%28954%29%20552-7956> * >>>> sdavid...@3danimationmagic.com >>>> >>>> *Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic* >>>> >>>> >>>> - Arthur C. Clarke >>>> >>>> <http://www.3danimationmagic.com> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >> > -- Best Regards, * Stephen P. Davidson* *(954) 552-7956*sdavid...@3danimationmagic.com *Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic* - Arthur C. Clarke <http://www.3danimationmagic.com>
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I may be a little late to the conversation, but I have been using these mice for the last 7 years and my wrist pain has decreased significantly: http://www.thehumansolution.com/evoluent-product-mouse-keyboard.html On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 2:25 PM, Ed Manning wrote: > thanks Byron! I'm gonna get one of those. > > On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 3:17 PM, Byron Nash wrote: > >> @Ed, http://ergo.contour-design.com/ergonomic-mouse/contour-mouse We >> have one here and I like using it. The scroll wheel on the thumb is nice. >> >> On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 2:56 PM, Ed Manning wrote: >> >>> Does anyone know of a decent true 3-*button* mouse? I.e. not a scroll >>> wheel, but an honest-to-goodness button in the middle? I've been trying to >>> find one for years that isn't just some old-stock ball-driven mouse. >>> >> >> > -- -=T=-
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thanks Byron! I'm gonna get one of those. On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 3:17 PM, Byron Nash wrote: > @Ed, http://ergo.contour-design.com/ergonomic-mouse/contour-mouse We have > one here and I like using it. The scroll wheel on the thumb is nice. > > On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 2:56 PM, Ed Manning wrote: > >> Does anyone know of a decent true 3-*button* mouse? I.e. not a scroll >> wheel, but an honest-to-goodness button in the middle? I've been trying to >> find one for years that isn't just some old-stock ball-driven mouse. >> > >
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@Ed, http://ergo.contour-design.com/ergonomic-mouse/contour-mouse We have one here and I like using it. The scroll wheel on the thumb is nice. On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 2:56 PM, Ed Manning wrote: > Does anyone know of a decent true 3-*button* mouse? I.e. not a scroll > wheel, but an honest-to-goodness button in the middle? I've been trying to > find one for years that isn't just some old-stock ball-driven mouse. >
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Does anyone know of a decent true 3-*button* mouse? I.e. not a scroll wheel, but an honest-to-goodness button in the middle? I've been trying to find one for years that isn't just some old-stock ball-driven mouse.
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I dont know, i wouldn't swap my logitech g400s , i know it looks ugly, but i figure its covered by your hand most of the time, but the thing is a dream to work with. Also 4000 dpi is a killer. On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 6:22 PM, Paul Griswold < pgrisw...@fusiondigitalproductions.com> wrote: > Avoid the Logitech Performance MX mouse. Not because of ergonomics but > because it eats batteries. It comes with an Eneloop rechargeable and can > be used while recharging, but the problem I've had since day one is, it > rarely lasts more than 4-6 hours. Logitech replaced mine under warranty > and the new one performs exactly the same, so it seems like that's all it > can do. I ended up just using it as a wired mouse, which defeats the > purpose. > > Personally I have bigger hands, so I like to have a big mouse. The MX is > large, but honestly not large enough. This image gives some good idea > about sizes, but it hasn't been updated since 2012: > > http://cdn.overclock.net/1/1f/1fea65b7_Mouse-Sizing-Chart.jpeg > > Don't skimp on your mouse, keyboard, monitor(s) or chair. You use them > all day every day, so why be uncomfortable. > > -Paul > > > > > On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 12:10 PM, Emilio Hernandez > wrote: > >> I switched to a Wacom 12 years ago. >> >> I was still using an old typical Dell mouse for SI around 4 years ago. >> But since I started sculpting in Zbrush and going back and forth from >> Zbrush to Softimage, I started using the stylus more and more in >> Softimage. I still keep clean my old mouse but it is very fat now >> >> ------- >> Emilio Hernández VFX & 3D animation. >> >> 2014-09-30 9:54 GMT-05:00 Byron Nash : >> >> I'm with Gerbrand, I don't currently have a mouse connected. I've used a >>> Wacom solely since the late 90's. I just wish Wacom made a dual monitor >>> aspect ratio model. >>> >>> On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 10:52 AM, Gerbrand Nel >>> wrote: >>> >>>> I don't even have a mouse >>>> Wacom everything, even counterstrike and COD :) >>>> G >>>> >>>> On 2014-09-30 04:30 PM, Stephen Davidson wrote: >>>> >>>> I have used the Logitech performance wireless mouse >>>> http://www.logitech.com/en-us/product/performance-mouse-mx >>>> >>>> for over 5 years. Good, overall. >>>> Complaints? needs recharging often. The buttons will eventually >>>> wear out >>>> over time. For the pricegood value. >>>> >>>> On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 6:35 AM, Martin Yara >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi ! >>>>> >>>>> It isn't a very common topic in this list, but what mouse are you >>>>> using ? >>>>> do anyone use a trackball? or something else? like a 3d connexion >>>>> space navigator ? >>>>> >>>>> My mouse middle button is kinda broken lately (double clicks when >>>>> I'm single clicking or simply doesn't do anything) so I'm looking for >>>>> buying a new one. Do you have any recommendation? >>>>> >>>>> I used to like Logitech mice but since they changed to a metallic >>>>> wheel that is almost unusable I don't buy them anymore. The last one >>>>> costed >>>>> me $100+ and had to return it the next day because the new wheel was a >>>>> piece of garbage. >>>>> >>>>> And since we use a middle click quite a lot, I'm looking for >>>>> something that isn't extremely hard to click like those Logitech and some >>>>> Microsoft ones. >>>>> >>>>> I'm using a Razer Deathadder right now and so far it was perfect, >>>>> until my middle click started to fail sometimes. I would buy a new >>>>> Deathadder, even if it is named Deathadder, but Razer's new cloud based >>>>> drivers that require internet connection and an account are a deal breaker >>>>> for me. Specially if there is a possibility that I'll have to work in my >>>>> client's office. >>>>> >>>>> Talking about middle click, Surface Pro 3 doesn't have a middle >>>>> click, and the stencil buttons are unusable in anything but Microsoft >>>>> OneNote or something like that, and are not configurable. At all. >>>>> /SP3 rant off. >>>>> >>>>> cheers, >>>>> >>>>> Martin >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> Best Regards, >>>> * Stephen P. Davidson* >>>> >>>> *(954) 552-7956 <%28954%29%20552-7956> * >>>> sdavid...@3danimationmagic.com >>>> >>>> *Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic* >>>> >>>> >>>> - Arthur C. Clarke >>>> >>>> <http://www.3danimationmagic.com> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >> >
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Avoid the Logitech Performance MX mouse. Not because of ergonomics but because it eats batteries. It comes with an Eneloop rechargeable and can be used while recharging, but the problem I've had since day one is, it rarely lasts more than 4-6 hours. Logitech replaced mine under warranty and the new one performs exactly the same, so it seems like that's all it can do. I ended up just using it as a wired mouse, which defeats the purpose. Personally I have bigger hands, so I like to have a big mouse. The MX is large, but honestly not large enough. This image gives some good idea about sizes, but it hasn't been updated since 2012: http://cdn.overclock.net/1/1f/1fea65b7_Mouse-Sizing-Chart.jpeg Don't skimp on your mouse, keyboard, monitor(s) or chair. You use them all day every day, so why be uncomfortable. -Paul On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 12:10 PM, Emilio Hernandez wrote: > I switched to a Wacom 12 years ago. > > I was still using an old typical Dell mouse for SI around 4 years ago. > But since I started sculpting in Zbrush and going back and forth from > Zbrush to Softimage, I started using the stylus more and more in > Softimage. I still keep clean my old mouse but it is very fat now > > --- > Emilio Hernández VFX & 3D animation. > > 2014-09-30 9:54 GMT-05:00 Byron Nash : > > I'm with Gerbrand, I don't currently have a mouse connected. I've used a >> Wacom solely since the late 90's. I just wish Wacom made a dual monitor >> aspect ratio model. >> >> On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 10:52 AM, Gerbrand Nel wrote: >> >>> I don't even have a mouse >>> Wacom everything, even counterstrike and COD :) >>> G >>> >>> On 2014-09-30 04:30 PM, Stephen Davidson wrote: >>> >>> I have used the Logitech performance wireless mouse >>> http://www.logitech.com/en-us/product/performance-mouse-mx >>> >>> for over 5 years. Good, overall. >>> Complaints? needs recharging often. The buttons will eventually >>> wear out >>> over time. For the pricegood value. >>> >>> On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 6:35 AM, Martin Yara wrote: >>> >>>> Hi ! >>>> >>>> It isn't a very common topic in this list, but what mouse are you >>>> using ? >>>> do anyone use a trackball? or something else? like a 3d connexion space >>>> navigator ? >>>> >>>> My mouse middle button is kinda broken lately (double clicks when I'm >>>> single clicking or simply doesn't do anything) so I'm looking for buying a >>>> new one. Do you have any recommendation? >>>> >>>> I used to like Logitech mice but since they changed to a metallic >>>> wheel that is almost unusable I don't buy them anymore. The last one costed >>>> me $100+ and had to return it the next day because the new wheel was a >>>> piece of garbage. >>>> >>>> And since we use a middle click quite a lot, I'm looking for >>>> something that isn't extremely hard to click like those Logitech and some >>>> Microsoft ones. >>>> >>>> I'm using a Razer Deathadder right now and so far it was perfect, >>>> until my middle click started to fail sometimes. I would buy a new >>>> Deathadder, even if it is named Deathadder, but Razer's new cloud based >>>> drivers that require internet connection and an account are a deal breaker >>>> for me. Specially if there is a possibility that I'll have to work in my >>>> client's office. >>>> >>>> Talking about middle click, Surface Pro 3 doesn't have a middle >>>> click, and the stencil buttons are unusable in anything but Microsoft >>>> OneNote or something like that, and are not configurable. At all. >>>> /SP3 rant off. >>>> >>>> cheers, >>>> >>>> Martin >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> Best Regards, >>> * Stephen P. Davidson* >>> >>> *(954) 552-7956 <%28954%29%20552-7956> * >>> sdavid...@3danimationmagic.com >>> >>> *Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic* >>> >>> >>> - Arthur C. Clarke >>> >>> <http://www.3danimationmagic.com> >>> >>> >>> >> >
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I switched to a Wacom 12 years ago. I was still using an old typical Dell mouse for SI around 4 years ago. But since I started sculpting in Zbrush and going back and forth from Zbrush to Softimage, I started using the stylus more and more in Softimage. I still keep clean my old mouse but it is very fat now --- Emilio Hernández VFX & 3D animation. 2014-09-30 9:54 GMT-05:00 Byron Nash : > I'm with Gerbrand, I don't currently have a mouse connected. I've used a > Wacom solely since the late 90's. I just wish Wacom made a dual monitor > aspect ratio model. > > On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 10:52 AM, Gerbrand Nel wrote: > >> I don't even have a mouse >> Wacom everything, even counterstrike and COD :) >> G >> >> On 2014-09-30 04:30 PM, Stephen Davidson wrote: >> >> I have used the Logitech performance wireless mouse >> http://www.logitech.com/en-us/product/performance-mouse-mx >> >> for over 5 years. Good, overall. >> Complaints? needs recharging often. The buttons will eventually wear >> out >> over time. For the pricegood value. >> >> On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 6:35 AM, Martin Yara wrote: >> >>> Hi ! >>> >>> It isn't a very common topic in this list, but what mouse are you >>> using ? >>> do anyone use a trackball? or something else? like a 3d connexion space >>> navigator ? >>> >>> My mouse middle button is kinda broken lately (double clicks when I'm >>> single clicking or simply doesn't do anything) so I'm looking for buying a >>> new one. Do you have any recommendation? >>> >>> I used to like Logitech mice but since they changed to a metallic >>> wheel that is almost unusable I don't buy them anymore. The last one costed >>> me $100+ and had to return it the next day because the new wheel was a >>> piece of garbage. >>> >>> And since we use a middle click quite a lot, I'm looking for something >>> that isn't extremely hard to click like those Logitech and some Microsoft >>> ones. >>> >>> I'm using a Razer Deathadder right now and so far it was perfect, >>> until my middle click started to fail sometimes. I would buy a new >>> Deathadder, even if it is named Deathadder, but Razer's new cloud based >>> drivers that require internet connection and an account are a deal breaker >>> for me. Specially if there is a possibility that I'll have to work in my >>> client's office. >>> >>> Talking about middle click, Surface Pro 3 doesn't have a middle click, >>> and the stencil buttons are unusable in anything but Microsoft OneNote or >>> something like that, and are not configurable. At all. >>> /SP3 rant off. >>> >>> cheers, >>> >>> Martin >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Best Regards, >> * Stephen P. Davidson* >> >> *(954) 552-7956 <%28954%29%20552-7956> * >> sdavid...@3danimationmagic.com >> >> *Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic* >> >> >>- Arthur C. Clarke >> >> <http://www.3danimationmagic.com> >> >> >> >
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I'm with Gerbrand, I don't currently have a mouse connected. I've used a Wacom solely since the late 90's. I just wish Wacom made a dual monitor aspect ratio model. On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 10:52 AM, Gerbrand Nel wrote: > I don't even have a mouse > Wacom everything, even counterstrike and COD :) > G > > On 2014-09-30 04:30 PM, Stephen Davidson wrote: > > I have used the Logitech performance wireless mouse > http://www.logitech.com/en-us/product/performance-mouse-mx > > for over 5 years. Good, overall. > Complaints? needs recharging often. The buttons will eventually wear > out > over time. For the pricegood value. > > On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 6:35 AM, Martin Yara wrote: > >> Hi ! >> >> It isn't a very common topic in this list, but what mouse are you using >> ? >> do anyone use a trackball? or something else? like a 3d connexion space >> navigator ? >> >> My mouse middle button is kinda broken lately (double clicks when I'm >> single clicking or simply doesn't do anything) so I'm looking for buying a >> new one. Do you have any recommendation? >> >> I used to like Logitech mice but since they changed to a metallic wheel >> that is almost unusable I don't buy them anymore. The last one costed me >> $100+ and had to return it the next day because the new wheel was a piece >> of garbage. >> >> And since we use a middle click quite a lot, I'm looking for something >> that isn't extremely hard to click like those Logitech and some Microsoft >> ones. >> >> I'm using a Razer Deathadder right now and so far it was perfect, until >> my middle click started to fail sometimes. I would buy a new Deathadder, >> even if it is named Deathadder, but Razer's new cloud based drivers that >> require internet connection and an account are a deal breaker for me. >> Specially if there is a possibility that I'll have to work in my client's >> office. >> >> Talking about middle click, Surface Pro 3 doesn't have a middle click, >> and the stencil buttons are unusable in anything but Microsoft OneNote or >> something like that, and are not configurable. At all. >> /SP3 rant off. >> >> cheers, >> >> Martin >> > > > > -- > > Best Regards, > * Stephen P. Davidson* > > *(954) 552-7956 <%28954%29%20552-7956> *sdavid...@3danimationmagic.com > > *Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic* > > >- Arthur C. Clarke > > <http://www.3danimationmagic.com> > > >
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I don't even have a mouse Wacom everything, even counterstrike and COD :) G On 2014-09-30 04:30 PM, Stephen Davidson wrote: I have used the Logitech performance wireless mouse http://www.logitech.com/en-us/product/performance-mouse-mx for over 5 years. Good, overall. Complaints? needs recharging often. The buttons will eventually wear out over time. For the pricegood value. On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 6:35 AM, Martin Yara <mailto:furik...@gmail.com>> wrote: Hi ! It isn't a very common topic in this list, but what mouse are you using ? do anyone use a trackball? or something else? like a 3d connexion space navigator ? My mouse middle button is kinda broken lately (double clicks when I'm single clicking or simply doesn't do anything) so I'm looking for buying a new one. Do you have any recommendation? I used to like Logitech mice but since they changed to a metallic wheel that is almost unusable I don't buy them anymore. The last one costed me $100+ and had to return it the next day because the new wheel was a piece of garbage. And since we use a middle click quite a lot, I'm looking for something that isn't extremely hard to click like those Logitech and some Microsoft ones. I'm using a Razer Deathadder right now and so far it was perfect, until my middle click started to fail sometimes. I would buy a new Deathadder, even if it is named Deathadder, but Razer's new cloud based drivers that require internet connection and an account are a deal breaker for me. Specially if there is a possibility that I'll have to work in my client's office. Talking about middle click, Surface Pro 3 doesn't have a middle click, and the stencil buttons are unusable in anything but Microsoft OneNote or something like that, and are not configurable. At all. /SP3 rant off. cheers, Martin -- Best Regards, * Stephen P. Davidson** **(954) 552-7956 *sdavid...@3danimationmagic.com /Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic/ - Arthur C. Clarke <http://www.3danimationmagic.com>
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I have used the Logitech performance wireless mouse http://www.logitech.com/en-us/product/performance-mouse-mx for over 5 years. Good, overall. Complaints? needs recharging often. The buttons will eventually wear out over time. For the pricegood value. On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 6:35 AM, Martin Yara wrote: > Hi ! > > It isn't a very common topic in this list, but what mouse are you using ? > do anyone use a trackball? or something else? like a 3d connexion space > navigator ? > > My mouse middle button is kinda broken lately (double clicks when I'm > single clicking or simply doesn't do anything) so I'm looking for buying a > new one. Do you have any recommendation? > > I used to like Logitech mice but since they changed to a metallic wheel > that is almost unusable I don't buy them anymore. The last one costed me > $100+ and had to return it the next day because the new wheel was a piece > of garbage. > > And since we use a middle click quite a lot, I'm looking for something > that isn't extremely hard to click like those Logitech and some Microsoft > ones. > > I'm using a Razer Deathadder right now and so far it was perfect, until my > middle click started to fail sometimes. I would buy a new Deathadder, even > if it is named Deathadder, but Razer's new cloud based drivers that require > internet connection and an account are a deal breaker for me. Specially if > there is a possibility that I'll have to work in my client's office. > > Talking about middle click, Surface Pro 3 doesn't have a middle click, and > the stencil buttons are unusable in anything but Microsoft OneNote or > something like that, and are not configurable. At all. > /SP3 rant off. > > cheers, > > Martin > -- Best Regards, * Stephen P. Davidson* *(954) 552-7956*sdavid...@3danimationmagic.com *Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic* - Arthur C. Clarke <http://www.3danimationmagic.com>
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Microsoft trackball explorer...this mouse was so good for 3d. The first one I had I wore out the metal balls that the mouse ball spins on,, but found on eBay there is someone who refurbished them with ceramic balls.. Been using for the last five years now. It seems like all the trackballs I could find at the time were thumb based... But I've found that I hAve so much control with Microsoft trackball because it is the first two fingers that is moving , I like it so much I will probably buy another just in case this one dies.. Lol. Since for whatever reason they are discontinued
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Regarding keyboard I have this one. http://shop.lenovo.com/us/en/itemdetails/0B47190/460/60AC6A0372B14F5BA7B12F1FF88E33C7 I like compact ones, because you can put your mouse or wacom near, and is less stress for your shoulder and elbow. Miquel Campos www.miquelTD.com On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 10:47 PM, Rob Chapman wrote: > yes headshots are easy - it moves like a normal mouse and does not bend > like a normal joystick, there is a lot of precision, its just your whole > hand is moving in a monkey grip position rather than being contorted and > twisted around the wrist causing overlapping nerves in the hands when > over-using mouse buttons. > > we are descended from primates after all and this just makes so much > sense. thumb is a rocker left right button and 2 fingers are middle mouse > button on the grip > > I swear by it for games also. level 30 Hawken years ago. > > :) > > On 30 September 2014 14:40, Martin Yara wrote: > >> Thanks for your answers ! >> >> I didn't know so may people used a tablet ! 90% of the designers around >> me use mouse. >> >> I also use a tablet (intuos 4) for modeling, painting, and even animate >> 80~90% of the time, but for that 20~10% and for some other things like data >> management, coding, excel, etc. I do need a mouse. >> >> I googled "3m ergonomic mouse". Wow! That looks like a joystick! >> I guess it lowers the stress in your wrist but can you have precision >> with something like that? like shooting headshots precision? >> I'll have to dig a little more because I'm still not sure how it works. >> >> btw I also have a Microsoft wireless (can't remember the model) but it >> came with my natural wireless keyboard and is a little ergonomic (diagonal >> grip) and it feels awkward, like grabbing a baseball, and drawing with the >> left side of your palm. Gaming would be out of the question with this one, >> not that I'll game with it, I'm just talking about precision. >> >> I don't think we have QPad products locally :( >> >> The Logitech G602 seems cool, like an old Logitech gaming mouse with a >> rubber wheel ! I'll check out in my local store. >> >> Miquel, the Microsoft sculpt ergonomic mouse doesn't look bad, but the >> keyboard looks pretty nice. I may change my old and giant MS Natural >> Keyboard. >> btw, I can't code in "normal" keyboards and without wrist pads anymore. >> >> >> Thanks! >> >> >> Martin >> >> >> >> >> >> On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 9:14 PM, Rob Chapman >> wrote: >> >>> 3m ergonomic mouse. Never had any rsi when using this, over 10 years now >>> , cannot use a normal mouse anymore >>> On 30 Sep 2014 13:07, "Angus Davidson" >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Logitech G602 Wireless. Best mouse I had in a while. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> From: Miquel Campos >>>> Reply-To: "softimage@listproc.autodesk.com" < >>>> softimage@listproc.autodesk.com> >>>> Date: Tuesday 30 September 2014 at 2:04 PM >>>> To: "softimage@listproc.autodesk.com" >>>> Subject: Re: Mouse >>>> >>>> Wacom for general use + microsoft sculpt ergonomic mouse when a lot >>>> of typing is needed (Coding) >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Miquel Campos >>>> www.miquelTD.com >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 8:04 PM, Stephan Haitz >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I´m using a Wacom Tablet since 10 years+. >>>>> >>>>> Nice side effect: you avoid some problems with your tendon >>>>> <http://dict.leo.org/ende/index_de.html#/search=tendon&searchLoc=0&resultOrder=basic&multiwordShowSingle=on> >>>>> sheath >>>>> <http://dict.leo.org/ende/index_de.html#/search=sheath&searchLoc=0&resultOrder=basic&multiwordShowSingle=on> >>>>> (is that right used?) when working too much. So it seems to be a little >>>>> bit >>>>> more ergonomic. >>>>> >>>>> I also tried a Space Pilot. But this is getting dusty. Didn´t make >>>>> sense to me. Sometimes customers say "wow", that´s it... >>>>> >>>>> Stephan >>>>> >>>>&
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yes headshots are easy - it moves like a normal mouse and does not bend like a normal joystick, there is a lot of precision, its just your whole hand is moving in a monkey grip position rather than being contorted and twisted around the wrist causing overlapping nerves in the hands when over-using mouse buttons. we are descended from primates after all and this just makes so much sense. thumb is a rocker left right button and 2 fingers are middle mouse button on the grip I swear by it for games also. level 30 Hawken years ago. :) On 30 September 2014 14:40, Martin Yara wrote: > Thanks for your answers ! > > I didn't know so may people used a tablet ! 90% of the designers around me > use mouse. > > I also use a tablet (intuos 4) for modeling, painting, and even animate > 80~90% of the time, but for that 20~10% and for some other things like data > management, coding, excel, etc. I do need a mouse. > > I googled "3m ergonomic mouse". Wow! That looks like a joystick! > I guess it lowers the stress in your wrist but can you have precision with > something like that? like shooting headshots precision? > I'll have to dig a little more because I'm still not sure how it works. > > btw I also have a Microsoft wireless (can't remember the model) but it > came with my natural wireless keyboard and is a little ergonomic (diagonal > grip) and it feels awkward, like grabbing a baseball, and drawing with the > left side of your palm. Gaming would be out of the question with this one, > not that I'll game with it, I'm just talking about precision. > > I don't think we have QPad products locally :( > > The Logitech G602 seems cool, like an old Logitech gaming mouse with a > rubber wheel ! I'll check out in my local store. > > Miquel, the Microsoft sculpt ergonomic mouse doesn't look bad, but the > keyboard looks pretty nice. I may change my old and giant MS Natural > Keyboard. > btw, I can't code in "normal" keyboards and without wrist pads anymore. > > > Thanks! > > > Martin > > > > > > On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 9:14 PM, Rob Chapman wrote: > >> 3m ergonomic mouse. Never had any rsi when using this, over 10 years now >> , cannot use a normal mouse anymore >> On 30 Sep 2014 13:07, "Angus Davidson" wrote: >> >>> Logitech G602 Wireless. Best mouse I had in a while. >>> >>> >>> >>> From: Miquel Campos >>> Reply-To: "softimage@listproc.autodesk.com" < >>> softimage@listproc.autodesk.com> >>> Date: Tuesday 30 September 2014 at 2:04 PM >>> To: "softimage@listproc.autodesk.com" >>> Subject: Re: Mouse >>> >>> Wacom for general use + microsoft sculpt ergonomic mouse when a lot >>> of typing is needed (Coding) >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Miquel Campos >>> www.miquelTD.com >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 8:04 PM, Stephan Haitz >>> wrote: >>> >>>> I´m using a Wacom Tablet since 10 years+. >>>> >>>> Nice side effect: you avoid some problems with your tendon >>>> <http://dict.leo.org/ende/index_de.html#/search=tendon&searchLoc=0&resultOrder=basic&multiwordShowSingle=on> >>>> sheath >>>> <http://dict.leo.org/ende/index_de.html#/search=sheath&searchLoc=0&resultOrder=basic&multiwordShowSingle=on> >>>> (is that right used?) when working too much. So it seems to be a little bit >>>> more ergonomic. >>>> >>>> I also tried a Space Pilot. But this is getting dusty. Didn´t make >>>> sense to me. Sometimes customers say "wow", that´s it... >>>> >>>> Stephan >>>> >>>> >>>> Wacom, it's so much nicer than using a mouse. I was resistant at >>>> first (years ago), but the ability to jump across screen without dragging >>>> an object is a big part of the appeal I think. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Simon Reeves >>>> London, UK >>>> *si...@simonreeves.com * >>>> *www.simonreeves.com <http://www.simonreeves.com>* >>>> *www.analogstudio.co.uk <http://www.analogstudio.co.uk>* >>>> >>>> On 30 September 2014 11:38, Mirko Jankovic >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Well recently I gave try again to wacom tablet again.. first couple >>>>> tries it wasn't so good so i gave up as was pretty busy
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Thanks for your answers ! I didn't know so may people used a tablet ! 90% of the designers around me use mouse. I also use a tablet (intuos 4) for modeling, painting, and even animate 80~90% of the time, but for that 20~10% and for some other things like data management, coding, excel, etc. I do need a mouse. I googled "3m ergonomic mouse". Wow! That looks like a joystick! I guess it lowers the stress in your wrist but can you have precision with something like that? like shooting headshots precision? I'll have to dig a little more because I'm still not sure how it works. btw I also have a Microsoft wireless (can't remember the model) but it came with my natural wireless keyboard and is a little ergonomic (diagonal grip) and it feels awkward, like grabbing a baseball, and drawing with the left side of your palm. Gaming would be out of the question with this one, not that I'll game with it, I'm just talking about precision. I don't think we have QPad products locally :( The Logitech G602 seems cool, like an old Logitech gaming mouse with a rubber wheel ! I'll check out in my local store. Miquel, the Microsoft sculpt ergonomic mouse doesn't look bad, but the keyboard looks pretty nice. I may change my old and giant MS Natural Keyboard. btw, I can't code in "normal" keyboards and without wrist pads anymore. Thanks! Martin On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 9:14 PM, Rob Chapman wrote: > 3m ergonomic mouse. Never had any rsi when using this, over 10 years now , > cannot use a normal mouse anymore > On 30 Sep 2014 13:07, "Angus Davidson" wrote: > >> Logitech G602 Wireless. Best mouse I had in a while. >> >> >> >> From: Miquel Campos >> Reply-To: "softimage@listproc.autodesk.com" < >> softimage@listproc.autodesk.com> >> Date: Tuesday 30 September 2014 at 2:04 PM >> To: "softimage@listproc.autodesk.com" >> Subject: Re: Mouse >> >> Wacom for general use + microsoft sculpt ergonomic mouse when a lot of >> typing is needed (Coding) >> >> >> >> >> Miquel Campos >> www.miquelTD.com >> >> >> On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 8:04 PM, Stephan Haitz >> wrote: >> >>> I´m using a Wacom Tablet since 10 years+. >>> >>> Nice side effect: you avoid some problems with your tendon >>> <http://dict.leo.org/ende/index_de.html#/search=tendon&searchLoc=0&resultOrder=basic&multiwordShowSingle=on> >>> sheath >>> <http://dict.leo.org/ende/index_de.html#/search=sheath&searchLoc=0&resultOrder=basic&multiwordShowSingle=on> >>> (is that right used?) when working too much. So it seems to be a little bit >>> more ergonomic. >>> >>> I also tried a Space Pilot. But this is getting dusty. Didn´t make sense >>> to me. Sometimes customers say "wow", that´s it... >>> >>> Stephan >>> >>> >>> Wacom, it's so much nicer than using a mouse. I was resistant at >>> first (years ago), but the ability to jump across screen without dragging >>> an object is a big part of the appeal I think. >>> >>> >>> >>> Simon Reeves >>> London, UK >>> *si...@simonreeves.com * >>> *www.simonreeves.com <http://www.simonreeves.com>* >>> *www.analogstudio.co.uk <http://www.analogstudio.co.uk>* >>> >>> On 30 September 2014 11:38, Mirko Jankovic >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Well recently I gave try again to wacom tablet again.. first couple >>>> tries it wasn't so good so i gave up as was pretty busy but this time >>>> around I gave it couple days and I can say that it is waay better working >>>> then with mouse. >>>> There are some annoying things like with multymon setup but still >>>> majority work in view port all tablet. >>>> >>>> On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 12:35 PM, Martin Yara >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi ! >>>>> >>>>> It isn't a very common topic in this list, but what mouse are you >>>>> using ? >>>>> do anyone use a trackball? or something else? like a 3d connexion >>>>> space navigator ? >>>>> >>>>> My mouse middle button is kinda broken lately (double clicks when >>>>> I'm single clicking or simply doesn't do anything) so I'm looking for >>>>> buying a new one. Do you have any recommendation? >>>>> >>>>> I
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3m ergonomic mouse. Never had any rsi when using this, over 10 years now , cannot use a normal mouse anymore On 30 Sep 2014 13:07, "Angus Davidson" wrote: > Logitech G602 Wireless. Best mouse I had in a while. > > > > From: Miquel Campos > Reply-To: "softimage@listproc.autodesk.com" < > softimage@listproc.autodesk.com> > Date: Tuesday 30 September 2014 at 2:04 PM > To: "softimage@listproc.autodesk.com" > Subject: Re: Mouse > > Wacom for general use + microsoft sculpt ergonomic mouse when a lot of > typing is needed (Coding) > > > > > Miquel Campos > www.miquelTD.com > > > On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 8:04 PM, Stephan Haitz > wrote: > >> I´m using a Wacom Tablet since 10 years+. >> >> Nice side effect: you avoid some problems with your tendon >> <http://dict.leo.org/ende/index_de.html#/search=tendon&searchLoc=0&resultOrder=basic&multiwordShowSingle=on> >> sheath >> <http://dict.leo.org/ende/index_de.html#/search=sheath&searchLoc=0&resultOrder=basic&multiwordShowSingle=on> >> (is that right used?) when working too much. So it seems to be a little bit >> more ergonomic. >> >> I also tried a Space Pilot. But this is getting dusty. Didn´t make sense >> to me. Sometimes customers say "wow", that´s it... >> >> Stephan >> >> >> Wacom, it's so much nicer than using a mouse. I was resistant at first >> (years ago), but the ability to jump across screen without dragging an >> object is a big part of the appeal I think. >> >> >> >> Simon Reeves >> London, UK >> *si...@simonreeves.com * >> *www.simonreeves.com <http://www.simonreeves.com>* >> *www.analogstudio.co.uk <http://www.analogstudio.co.uk>* >> >> On 30 September 2014 11:38, Mirko Jankovic >> wrote: >> >>> Well recently I gave try again to wacom tablet again.. first couple >>> tries it wasn't so good so i gave up as was pretty busy but this time >>> around I gave it couple days and I can say that it is waay better working >>> then with mouse. >>> There are some annoying things like with multymon setup but still >>> majority work in view port all tablet. >>> >>> On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 12:35 PM, Martin Yara >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi ! >>>> >>>> It isn't a very common topic in this list, but what mouse are you >>>> using ? >>>> do anyone use a trackball? or something else? like a 3d connexion space >>>> navigator ? >>>> >>>> My mouse middle button is kinda broken lately (double clicks when I'm >>>> single clicking or simply doesn't do anything) so I'm looking for buying a >>>> new one. Do you have any recommendation? >>>> >>>> I used to like Logitech mice but since they changed to a metallic >>>> wheel that is almost unusable I don't buy them anymore. The last one costed >>>> me $100+ and had to return it the next day because the new wheel was a >>>> piece of garbage. >>>> >>>> And since we use a middle click quite a lot, I'm looking for >>>> something that isn't extremely hard to click like those Logitech and some >>>> Microsoft ones. >>>> >>>> I'm using a Razer Deathadder right now and so far it was perfect, >>>> until my middle click started to fail sometimes. I would buy a new >>>> Deathadder, even if it is named Deathadder, but Razer's new cloud based >>>> drivers that require internet connection and an account are a deal breaker >>>> for me. Specially if there is a possibility that I'll have to work in my >>>> client's office. >>>> >>>> Talking about middle click, Surface Pro 3 doesn't have a middle >>>> click, and the stencil buttons are unusable in anything but Microsoft >>>> OneNote or something like that, and are not configurable. At all. >>>> /SP3 rant off. >>>> >>>> cheers, >>>> >>>> Martin >>>> >>> >>> >> >> > This communication is intended for the addressee only. It is > confidential. If you have received this communication in error, please notify > us immediately and destroy the original message. You may not copy or > disseminate this communication without the permission of the University. Only > authorised signatories are competent to enter into agreements on behalf of > the University and recipients are thus advised that the content of this > message may not be legally binding on the University and may contain the > personal views and opinions of the author, which are not necessarily the > views and opinions of The University of the Witwatersrand, Johannesburg. All > agreements between the University and outsiders are subject to South African > Law unless the University agrees in writing to the contrary. > >
Re: Mouse
Logitech G602 Wireless. Best mouse I had in a while. From: Miquel Campos mailto:miquel.cam...@gmail.com>> Reply-To: "softimage@listproc.autodesk.com<mailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com>" mailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com>> Date: Tuesday 30 September 2014 at 2:04 PM To: "softimage@listproc.autodesk.com<mailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com>" mailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com>> Subject: Re: Mouse Wacom for general use + microsoft sculpt ergonomic mouse when a lot of typing is needed (Coding) Miquel Campos www.miquelTD.com<http://www.miquelTD.com> On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 8:04 PM, Stephan Haitz mailto:sha...@3d-agenten.de>> wrote: I´m using a Wacom Tablet since 10 years+. Nice side effect: you avoid some problems with your tendon<http://dict.leo.org/ende/index_de.html#/search=tendon&searchLoc=0&resultOrder=basic&multiwordShowSingle=on> sheath<http://dict.leo.org/ende/index_de.html#/search=sheath&searchLoc=0&resultOrder=basic&multiwordShowSingle=on> (is that right used?) when working too much. So it seems to be a little bit more ergonomic. I also tried a Space Pilot. But this is getting dusty. Didn´t make sense to me. Sometimes customers say "wow", that´s it... Stephan Wacom, it's so much nicer than using a mouse. I was resistant at first (years ago), but the ability to jump across screen without dragging an object is a big part of the appeal I think. Simon Reeves London, UK si...@simonreeves.com<mailto:si...@simonreeves.com> www.simonreeves.com<http://www.simonreeves.com> www.analogstudio.co.uk<http://www.analogstudio.co.uk> On 30 September 2014 11:38, Mirko Jankovic mailto:mirkoj.anima...@gmail.com>> wrote: Well recently I gave try again to wacom tablet again.. first couple tries it wasn't so good so i gave up as was pretty busy but this time around I gave it couple days and I can say that it is waay better working then with mouse. There are some annoying things like with multymon setup but still majority work in view port all tablet. On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 12:35 PM, Martin Yara mailto:furik...@gmail.com>> wrote: Hi ! It isn't a very common topic in this list, but what mouse are you using ? do anyone use a trackball? or something else? like a 3d connexion space navigator ? My mouse middle button is kinda broken lately (double clicks when I'm single clicking or simply doesn't do anything) so I'm looking for buying a new one. Do you have any recommendation? I used to like Logitech mice but since they changed to a metallic wheel that is almost unusable I don't buy them anymore. The last one costed me $100+ and had to return it the next day because the new wheel was a piece of garbage. And since we use a middle click quite a lot, I'm looking for something that isn't extremely hard to click like those Logitech and some Microsoft ones. I'm using a Razer Deathadder right now and so far it was perfect, until my middle click started to fail sometimes. I would buy a new Deathadder, even if it is named Deathadder, but Razer's new cloud based drivers that require internet connection and an account are a deal breaker for me. Specially if there is a possibility that I'll have to work in my client's office. Talking about middle click, Surface Pro 3 doesn't have a middle click, and the stencil buttons are unusable in anything but Microsoft OneNote or something like that, and are not configurable. At all. /SP3 rant off. cheers, Martin This communication is intended for the addressee only. It is confidential. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately and destroy the original message. You may not copy or disseminate this communication without the permission of the University. Only authorised signatories are competent to enter into agreements on behalf of the University and recipients are thus advised that the content of this message may not be legally binding on the University and may contain the personal views and opinions of the author, which are not necessarily the views and opinions of The University of the Witwatersrand, Johannesburg. All agreements between the University and outsiders are subject to South African Law unless the University agrees in writing to the contrary.
Re: Mouse
Wacom for general use + microsoft sculpt ergonomic mouse when a lot of typing is needed (Coding) Miquel Campos www.miquelTD.com On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 8:04 PM, Stephan Haitz wrote: > I´m using a Wacom Tablet since 10 years+. > > Nice side effect: you avoid some problems with your tendon > <http://dict.leo.org/ende/index_de.html#/search=tendon&searchLoc=0&resultOrder=basic&multiwordShowSingle=on> > sheath > <http://dict.leo.org/ende/index_de.html#/search=sheath&searchLoc=0&resultOrder=basic&multiwordShowSingle=on> > (is that right used?) when working too much. So it seems to be a little bit > more ergonomic. > > I also tried a Space Pilot. But this is getting dusty. Didn´t make sense > to me. Sometimes customers say "wow", that´s it... > > Stephan > > > Wacom, it's so much nicer than using a mouse. I was resistant at first > (years ago), but the ability to jump across screen without dragging an > object is a big part of the appeal I think. > > > > Simon Reeves > London, UK > *si...@simonreeves.com * > *www.simonreeves.com <http://www.simonreeves.com>* > *www.analogstudio.co.uk <http://www.analogstudio.co.uk>* > > On 30 September 2014 11:38, Mirko Jankovic > wrote: > >> Well recently I gave try again to wacom tablet again.. first couple tries >> it wasn't so good so i gave up as was pretty busy but this time around I >> gave it couple days and I can say that it is waay better working then with >> mouse. >> There are some annoying things like with multymon setup but still >> majority work in view port all tablet. >> >> On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 12:35 PM, Martin Yara wrote: >> >>> Hi ! >>> >>> It isn't a very common topic in this list, but what mouse are you >>> using ? >>> do anyone use a trackball? or something else? like a 3d connexion space >>> navigator ? >>> >>> My mouse middle button is kinda broken lately (double clicks when I'm >>> single clicking or simply doesn't do anything) so I'm looking for buying a >>> new one. Do you have any recommendation? >>> >>> I used to like Logitech mice but since they changed to a metallic >>> wheel that is almost unusable I don't buy them anymore. The last one costed >>> me $100+ and had to return it the next day because the new wheel was a >>> piece of garbage. >>> >>> And since we use a middle click quite a lot, I'm looking for something >>> that isn't extremely hard to click like those Logitech and some Microsoft >>> ones. >>> >>> I'm using a Razer Deathadder right now and so far it was perfect, >>> until my middle click started to fail sometimes. I would buy a new >>> Deathadder, even if it is named Deathadder, but Razer's new cloud based >>> drivers that require internet connection and an account are a deal breaker >>> for me. Specially if there is a possibility that I'll have to work in my >>> client's office. >>> >>> Talking about middle click, Surface Pro 3 doesn't have a middle click, >>> and the stencil buttons are unusable in anything but Microsoft OneNote or >>> something like that, and are not configurable. At all. >>> /SP3 rant off. >>> >>> cheers, >>> >>> Martin >>> >> >> > >
Re: Mouse
I have wacom and have used it years, but it`s definelty not that great for the back in long term. I feel that you have to keep your hand in more of a floating position than with a mouse. I use http://qpad.com/products/mice/5K/ and I like it a lot, but these things are always matter of taste. On 30 September 2014 13:45, Simon Reeves wrote: > Wacom, it's so much nicer than using a mouse. I was resistant at first > (years ago), but the ability to jump across screen without dragging an > object is a big part of the appeal I think. > > > > Simon Reeves > London, UK > *si...@simonreeves.com * > *www.simonreeves.com <http://www.simonreeves.com>* > *www.analogstudio.co.uk <http://www.analogstudio.co.uk>* > > On 30 September 2014 11:38, Mirko Jankovic > wrote: > >> Well recently I gave try again to wacom tablet again.. first couple tries >> it wasn't so good so i gave up as was pretty busy but this time around I >> gave it couple days and I can say that it is waay better working then with >> mouse. >> There are some annoying things like with multymon setup but still >> majority work in view port all tablet. >> >> On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 12:35 PM, Martin Yara wrote: >> >>> Hi ! >>> >>> It isn't a very common topic in this list, but what mouse are you using >>> ? >>> do anyone use a trackball? or something else? like a 3d connexion space >>> navigator ? >>> >>> My mouse middle button is kinda broken lately (double clicks when I'm >>> single clicking or simply doesn't do anything) so I'm looking for buying a >>> new one. Do you have any recommendation? >>> >>> I used to like Logitech mice but since they changed to a metallic wheel >>> that is almost unusable I don't buy them anymore. The last one costed me >>> $100+ and had to return it the next day because the new wheel was a piece >>> of garbage. >>> >>> And since we use a middle click quite a lot, I'm looking for something >>> that isn't extremely hard to click like those Logitech and some Microsoft >>> ones. >>> >>> I'm using a Razer Deathadder right now and so far it was perfect, until >>> my middle click started to fail sometimes. I would buy a new Deathadder, >>> even if it is named Deathadder, but Razer's new cloud based drivers that >>> require internet connection and an account are a deal breaker for me. >>> Specially if there is a possibility that I'll have to work in my client's >>> office. >>> >>> Talking about middle click, Surface Pro 3 doesn't have a middle click, >>> and the stencil buttons are unusable in anything but Microsoft OneNote or >>> something like that, and are not configurable. At all. >>> /SP3 rant off. >>> >>> cheers, >>> >>> Martin >>> >> >> > -- -- Juhani Karlsson 3D Artist/TD Talvi Digital Oy Pursimiehenkatu 29-31 b 2krs. 00150 Helsinki +358 443443088 juhani.karls...@talvi.fi www.vimeo.com/talvi
Re: Mouse
I´m using a Wacom Tablet since 10 years+. Nice side effect: you avoid some problems with your tendon <http://dict.leo.org/ende/index_de.html#/search=tendon&searchLoc=0&resultOrder=basic&multiwordShowSingle=on> sheath <http://dict.leo.org/ende/index_de.html#/search=sheath&searchLoc=0&resultOrder=basic&multiwordShowSingle=on> (is that right used?) when working too much. So it seems to be a little bit more ergonomic. I also tried a Space Pilot. But this is getting dusty. Didn´t make sense to me. Sometimes customers say "wow", that´s it... Stephan Wacom, it's so much nicer than using a mouse. I was resistant at first (years ago), but the ability to jump across screen without dragging an object is a big part of the appeal I think. Simon Reeves London, UK /si...@simonreeves.com <mailto:si...@simonreeves.com>/ /www.simonreeves.com <http://www.simonreeves.com>/ /www.analogstudio.co.uk <http://www.analogstudio.co.uk>// / On 30 September 2014 11:38, Mirko Jankovic <mailto:mirkoj.anima...@gmail.com>> wrote: Well recently I gave try again to wacom tablet again.. first couple tries it wasn't so good so i gave up as was pretty busy but this time around I gave it couple days and I can say that it is waay better working then with mouse. There are some annoying things like with multymon setup but still majority work in view port all tablet. On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 12:35 PM, Martin Yara mailto:furik...@gmail.com>> wrote: Hi ! It isn't a very common topic in this list, but what mouse are you using ? do anyone use a trackball? or something else? like a 3d connexion space navigator ? My mouse middle button is kinda broken lately (double clicks when I'm single clicking or simply doesn't do anything) so I'm looking for buying a new one. Do you have any recommendation? I used to like Logitech mice but since they changed to a metallic wheel that is almost unusable I don't buy them anymore. The last one costed me $100+ and had to return it the next day because the new wheel was a piece of garbage. And since we use a middle click quite a lot, I'm looking for something that isn't extremely hard to click like those Logitech and some Microsoft ones. I'm using a Razer Deathadder right now and so far it was perfect, until my middle click started to fail sometimes. I would buy a new Deathadder, even if it is named Deathadder, but Razer's new cloud based drivers that require internet connection and an account are a deal breaker for me. Specially if there is a possibility that I'll have to work in my client's office. Talking about middle click, Surface Pro 3 doesn't have a middle click, and the stencil buttons are unusable in anything but Microsoft OneNote or something like that, and are not configurable. At all. /SP3 rant off. cheers, Martin
Re: Mouse
Wacom, it's so much nicer than using a mouse. I was resistant at first (years ago), but the ability to jump across screen without dragging an object is a big part of the appeal I think. Simon Reeves London, UK *si...@simonreeves.com * *www.simonreeves.com <http://www.simonreeves.com>* *www.analogstudio.co.uk <http://www.analogstudio.co.uk>* On 30 September 2014 11:38, Mirko Jankovic wrote: > Well recently I gave try again to wacom tablet again.. first couple tries > it wasn't so good so i gave up as was pretty busy but this time around I > gave it couple days and I can say that it is waay better working then with > mouse. > There are some annoying things like with multymon setup but still majority > work in view port all tablet. > > On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 12:35 PM, Martin Yara wrote: > >> Hi ! >> >> It isn't a very common topic in this list, but what mouse are you using ? >> do anyone use a trackball? or something else? like a 3d connexion space >> navigator ? >> >> My mouse middle button is kinda broken lately (double clicks when I'm >> single clicking or simply doesn't do anything) so I'm looking for buying a >> new one. Do you have any recommendation? >> >> I used to like Logitech mice but since they changed to a metallic wheel >> that is almost unusable I don't buy them anymore. The last one costed me >> $100+ and had to return it the next day because the new wheel was a piece >> of garbage. >> >> And since we use a middle click quite a lot, I'm looking for something >> that isn't extremely hard to click like those Logitech and some Microsoft >> ones. >> >> I'm using a Razer Deathadder right now and so far it was perfect, until >> my middle click started to fail sometimes. I would buy a new Deathadder, >> even if it is named Deathadder, but Razer's new cloud based drivers that >> require internet connection and an account are a deal breaker for me. >> Specially if there is a possibility that I'll have to work in my client's >> office. >> >> Talking about middle click, Surface Pro 3 doesn't have a middle click, >> and the stencil buttons are unusable in anything but Microsoft OneNote or >> something like that, and are not configurable. At all. >> /SP3 rant off. >> >> cheers, >> >> Martin >> > >
Re: Mouse
Well recently I gave try again to wacom tablet again.. first couple tries it wasn't so good so i gave up as was pretty busy but this time around I gave it couple days and I can say that it is waay better working then with mouse. There are some annoying things like with multymon setup but still majority work in view port all tablet. On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 12:35 PM, Martin Yara wrote: > Hi ! > > It isn't a very common topic in this list, but what mouse are you using ? > do anyone use a trackball? or something else? like a 3d connexion space > navigator ? > > My mouse middle button is kinda broken lately (double clicks when I'm > single clicking or simply doesn't do anything) so I'm looking for buying a > new one. Do you have any recommendation? > > I used to like Logitech mice but since they changed to a metallic wheel > that is almost unusable I don't buy them anymore. The last one costed me > $100+ and had to return it the next day because the new wheel was a piece > of garbage. > > And since we use a middle click quite a lot, I'm looking for something > that isn't extremely hard to click like those Logitech and some Microsoft > ones. > > I'm using a Razer Deathadder right now and so far it was perfect, until my > middle click started to fail sometimes. I would buy a new Deathadder, even > if it is named Deathadder, but Razer's new cloud based drivers that require > internet connection and an account are a deal breaker for me. Specially if > there is a possibility that I'll have to work in my client's office. > > Talking about middle click, Surface Pro 3 doesn't have a middle click, and > the stencil buttons are unusable in anything but Microsoft OneNote or > something like that, and are not configurable. At all. > /SP3 rant off. > > cheers, > > Martin >
Mouse
Hi ! It isn't a very common topic in this list, but what mouse are you using ? do anyone use a trackball? or something else? like a 3d connexion space navigator ? My mouse middle button is kinda broken lately (double clicks when I'm single clicking or simply doesn't do anything) so I'm looking for buying a new one. Do you have any recommendation? I used to like Logitech mice but since they changed to a metallic wheel that is almost unusable I don't buy them anymore. The last one costed me $100+ and had to return it the next day because the new wheel was a piece of garbage. And since we use a middle click quite a lot, I'm looking for something that isn't extremely hard to click like those Logitech and some Microsoft ones. I'm using a Razer Deathadder right now and so far it was perfect, until my middle click started to fail sometimes. I would buy a new Deathadder, even if it is named Deathadder, but Razer's new cloud based drivers that require internet connection and an account are a deal breaker for me. Specially if there is a possibility that I'll have to work in my client's office. Talking about middle click, Surface Pro 3 doesn't have a middle click, and the stencil buttons are unusable in anything but Microsoft OneNote or something like that, and are not configurable. At all. /SP3 rant off. cheers, Martin
Re: Scrub timeline while mouse is in viewport?
Maybe this works too, it's worth a try.
Application.SelectObj("Autodesk.ShotCallers")
Application.DeleteObj()
On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 5:42 AM, Cesar Saez wrote:
> Hi Siew,
> It's a bit of a hack but works ;)
>
> Application.SelectObj("Application")
> Application.SetMarking("PlayControl.Current")
> Application.VirtualSliderTool()
>
> Cheers!
>
Re: Scrub timeline while mouse is in viewport?
It may be the hard way, but finding out about this neat trick was worth it.
I had no idea you could do that.
On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 3:50 PM, Alan Fregtman wrote:
> You guys are doing it the hard way. There's already a tool for this! Been
> there forever:
>
> *Application.TimeSliderTool()*
>
> (You can map a key to it in the Keyboard Mapping window, in the XSI
> section, it's called "*Time Slider Tool*".)
>
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 9:41 AM, Arvid Björn wrote:
>
>> Nice, I learned a new trick today =)
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 12:26 PM, Luc-Eric Rousseau
>> wrote:
>>
>>> That's a cool trick Cesar.
>>>
>>> Thanks to Brent, Softimage already has that Maya tool built-in; you'll
>>> have to map it in your keymap, it's called "Time Slider Tool"
>>> In the Maya keymap, it's already mapped to the K key
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 12:16 AM, Siew Yi Liang
>>> wrote:
>>> > Hi Cesar:
>>> >
>>> > Ha, really nice! Never thought of doing it that way, here I was
>>> looking at
>>> > trying to grab mouse position! :P
>>> >
>>> > Thanks again for coming to the rescue!
>>> >
>>> > Yours sincerely,
>>> > Siew Yi Liang
>>> >
>>> > On 3/6/2014 8:42 PM, Cesar Saez wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Hi Siew,
>>> > It's a bit of a hack but works ;)
>>> >
>>> > Application.SelectObj("Application")
>>> > Application.SetMarking("PlayControl.Current")
>>> > Application.VirtualSliderTool()
>>> >
>>> > Cheers!
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
>>
>>
>
Re: Scrub timeline while mouse is in viewport?
You guys are doing it the hard way. There's already a tool for this! Been
there forever:
*Application.TimeSliderTool()*
(You can map a key to it in the Keyboard Mapping window, in the XSI
section, it's called "*Time Slider Tool*".)
On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 9:41 AM, Arvid Björn wrote:
> Nice, I learned a new trick today =)
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 12:26 PM, Luc-Eric Rousseau wrote:
>
>> That's a cool trick Cesar.
>>
>> Thanks to Brent, Softimage already has that Maya tool built-in; you'll
>> have to map it in your keymap, it's called "Time Slider Tool"
>> In the Maya keymap, it's already mapped to the K key
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 12:16 AM, Siew Yi Liang wrote:
>> > Hi Cesar:
>> >
>> > Ha, really nice! Never thought of doing it that way, here I was looking
>> at
>> > trying to grab mouse position! :P
>> >
>> > Thanks again for coming to the rescue!
>> >
>> > Yours sincerely,
>> > Siew Yi Liang
>> >
>> > On 3/6/2014 8:42 PM, Cesar Saez wrote:
>> >
>> > Hi Siew,
>> > It's a bit of a hack but works ;)
>> >
>> > Application.SelectObj("Application")
>> > Application.SetMarking("PlayControl.Current")
>> > Application.VirtualSliderTool()
>> >
>> > Cheers!
>> >
>> >
>>
>
>
Re: Scrub timeline while mouse is in viewport?
Nice, I learned a new trick today =)
On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 12:26 PM, Luc-Eric Rousseau wrote:
> That's a cool trick Cesar.
>
> Thanks to Brent, Softimage already has that Maya tool built-in; you'll
> have to map it in your keymap, it's called "Time Slider Tool"
> In the Maya keymap, it's already mapped to the K key
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 12:16 AM, Siew Yi Liang wrote:
> > Hi Cesar:
> >
> > Ha, really nice! Never thought of doing it that way, here I was looking
> at
> > trying to grab mouse position! :P
> >
> > Thanks again for coming to the rescue!
> >
> > Yours sincerely,
> > Siew Yi Liang
> >
> > On 3/6/2014 8:42 PM, Cesar Saez wrote:
> >
> > Hi Siew,
> > It's a bit of a hack but works ;)
> >
> > Application.SelectObj("Application")
> > Application.SetMarking("PlayControl.Current")
> > Application.VirtualSliderTool()
> >
> > Cheers!
> >
> >
>
Re: Scrub timeline while mouse is in viewport?
Hi Luc-Eric:
Oops, never actually bothered to find out what that command actually does...
Thanks for responding! It works great!
Yours sincerely,
Siew Yi Liang
On 3/7/2014 3:26 AM, Luc-Eric Rousseau wrote:
That's a cool trick Cesar.
Thanks to Brent, Softimage already has that Maya tool built-in; you'll
have to map it in your keymap, it's called "Time Slider Tool"
In the Maya keymap, it's already mapped to the K key
On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 12:16 AM, Siew Yi Liang wrote:
Hi Cesar:
Ha, really nice! Never thought of doing it that way, here I was looking at
trying to grab mouse position! :P
Thanks again for coming to the rescue!
Yours sincerely,
Siew Yi Liang
On 3/6/2014 8:42 PM, Cesar Saez wrote:
Hi Siew,
It's a bit of a hack but works ;)
Application.SelectObj("Application")
Application.SetMarking("PlayControl.Current")
Application.VirtualSliderTool()
Cheers!
Re: Scrub timeline while mouse is in viewport?
That's a cool trick Cesar.
Thanks to Brent, Softimage already has that Maya tool built-in; you'll
have to map it in your keymap, it's called "Time Slider Tool"
In the Maya keymap, it's already mapped to the K key
On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 12:16 AM, Siew Yi Liang wrote:
> Hi Cesar:
>
> Ha, really nice! Never thought of doing it that way, here I was looking at
> trying to grab mouse position! :P
>
> Thanks again for coming to the rescue!
>
> Yours sincerely,
> Siew Yi Liang
>
> On 3/6/2014 8:42 PM, Cesar Saez wrote:
>
> Hi Siew,
> It's a bit of a hack but works ;)
>
> Application.SelectObj("Application")
> Application.SetMarking("PlayControl.Current")
> Application.VirtualSliderTool()
>
> Cheers!
>
>
Re: Scrub timeline while mouse is in viewport?
Hi Cesar:
Ha, really nice! Never thought of doing it that way, here I was looking
at trying to grab mouse position! :P
Thanks again for coming to the rescue!
Yours sincerely,
Siew Yi Liang
On 3/6/2014 8:42 PM, Cesar Saez wrote:
Hi Siew,
It's a bit of a hack but works ;)
Application.SelectObj("Application")
Application.SetMarking("PlayControl.Current")
Application.VirtualSliderTool()
Cheers!
Re: Scrub timeline while mouse is in viewport?
Hi Siew,
It's a bit of a hack but works ;)
Application.SelectObj("Application")
Application.SetMarking("PlayControl.Current")
Application.VirtualSliderTool()
Cheers!
Scrub timeline while mouse is in viewport?
Hello fellow XSI animators! I was wondering if there was any plugin/script that someone knows of that would enable me to hold down a hotkey and be able to scrub the timeline while the cursor was hovering over a viewport? (similar to the 'k' hotkey in Maya?) Failing which, would anyone more familiar with the UI be able to point me in a vague direction as to which commands I could look at in the documentation if I wanted to try scripting such a thing? It's a very minor thing, obviously, so if it's something that would be really complicated, that's fine! Just curious since I was poking around the docs and I don't see any command that would be able to get the current cursor position x,y coord so that I could get started... (BTW I animate in Maya mostly but I'm currently doing an animation in XSI now for fun :D So no worries about not being able to switch!) Thanks! -- Yours sincerely, Siew Yi Liang
Re: Middle mouse pan in ice tree
I would also like to have it the old way. A preference check box would really make sense. Hope to see this in the new version... On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 10:21 PM, David Barosin wrote: > Yeah I guess the happy solution would be a preference check box. Thanks > for everyone chiming in. It does seem to break from the established flow > of selecting objects and components in the 3d view. > > This new mode slows things down if you have large trees that need to be > shuffled around (especially with a mix of branches and temporarily > unconnected nodes). > > > On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 4:13 PM, Grahame Fuller < > grahame.ful...@autodesk.com> wrote: > >> There's no preference that I know of, but you can still middle-click >> (i.e. no drag) to branch-select a node. It also works with Shift (add to >> selection), Ctrl (toggle Selection), and Ctrl+Shift (deselect). >> >> gray >> >> From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto: >> softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Leonard Koch >> Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013 04:06 PM >> To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com >> Subject: Re: Middle mouse pan in ice tree >> >> Yeah, that would be really lovely. That change annoys me about 15 times >> every day. Whenever my mind is elsewhere I fall back into the old and >> accustomed-to behaviour. >> >> On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 9:55 PM, David Barosin > <mailto:dbaro...@gmail.com>> wrote: >> Anyone know if there is a way to turn off the middle mouse for panning in >> the ICE Tree. I really miss the old behavior that had middle mouse handle >> branch selection boxes. It was totally consistent with everything else in >> XSI's selection mode. Not sure why that was even changed. >> >> >> >> >> >> > -- --- Vladimir Jankijevic Technical Direction Elefant Studios AG Lessingstrasse 15 CH-8002 Zürich +41 44 500 48 20 www.elefantstudios.ch ---
Re: Middle mouse pan in ice tree
Yeah I guess the happy solution would be a preference check box. Thanks for everyone chiming in. It does seem to break from the established flow of selecting objects and components in the 3d view. This new mode slows things down if you have large trees that need to be shuffled around (especially with a mix of branches and temporarily unconnected nodes). On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 4:13 PM, Grahame Fuller wrote: > There's no preference that I know of, but you can still middle-click (i.e. > no drag) to branch-select a node. It also works with Shift (add to > selection), Ctrl (toggle Selection), and Ctrl+Shift (deselect). > > gray > > From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto: > softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Leonard Koch > Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013 04:06 PM > To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com > Subject: Re: Middle mouse pan in ice tree > > Yeah, that would be really lovely. That change annoys me about 15 times > every day. Whenever my mind is elsewhere I fall back into the old and > accustomed-to behaviour. > > On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 9:55 PM, David Barosin dbaro...@gmail.com>> wrote: > Anyone know if there is a way to turn off the middle mouse for panning in > the ICE Tree. I really miss the old behavior that had middle mouse handle > branch selection boxes. It was totally consistent with everything else in > XSI's selection mode. Not sure why that was even changed. > > > > > >
Re: Middle mouse pan in ice tree
Yeah, but it allowed you to branch-select multiple branches in one move. It was the main way in which I moved around nodes. Maybe it was just used intensively by a select few and the rest doesn't even miss it. If the majority of users prefers it this way then it's the right choice and just our personal problem. An option would be nice though. On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 10:11 PM, Stephen Blair wrote: > Middle click still branch selects, doesn't it? > > > On 28/01/2013 3:55 PM, David Barosin wrote: > > Anyone know if there is a way to turn off the middle mouse for panning in > the ICE Tree. I *really* miss the old behavior that had middle mouse > handle branch selection boxes. It was totally consistent with everything > else in XSI's selection mode. Not sure why that was even changed. > > > > > > >
RE: Middle mouse pan in ice tree
There's no preference that I know of, but you can still middle-click (i.e. no drag) to branch-select a node. It also works with Shift (add to selection), Ctrl (toggle Selection), and Ctrl+Shift (deselect). gray From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Leonard Koch Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013 04:06 PM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: Middle mouse pan in ice tree Yeah, that would be really lovely. That change annoys me about 15 times every day. Whenever my mind is elsewhere I fall back into the old and accustomed-to behaviour. On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 9:55 PM, David Barosin mailto:dbaro...@gmail.com>> wrote: Anyone know if there is a way to turn off the middle mouse for panning in the ICE Tree. I really miss the old behavior that had middle mouse handle branch selection boxes. It was totally consistent with everything else in XSI's selection mode. Not sure why that was even changed. <>
Re: Middle mouse pan in ice tree
Yes. Just hoping for the selection box to grab a bunch of branches at once. On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 4:11 PM, Stephen Blair wrote: > Middle click still branch selects, doesn't it? > > > On 28/01/2013 3:55 PM, David Barosin wrote: > > Anyone know if there is a way to turn off the middle mouse for panning in > the ICE Tree. I *really* miss the old behavior that had middle mouse > handle branch selection boxes. It was totally consistent with everything > else in XSI's selection mode. Not sure why that was even changed. > > > > > > >
Re: Middle mouse pan in ice tree
ya it was added for one hand driving of the tree view, besides... middle click on nodes to select a branch still works. unless you wanted to middle mouse with a marquee to select multiple branches? On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 1:08 PM, Ciaran Moloney wrote: > People got annoyed when moving back and forth between Nuke and Soft. > > > On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 8:55 PM, David Barosin wrote: > >> Anyone know if there is a way to turn off the middle mouse for panning in >> the ICE Tree. I *really* miss the old behavior that had middle mouse >> handle branch selection boxes. It was totally consistent with everything >> else in XSI's selection mode. Not sure why that was even changed. >> >> >> >> >> > >
Re: Middle mouse pan in ice tree
Middle click still branch selects, doesn't it? On 28/01/2013 3:55 PM, David Barosin wrote: Anyone know if there is a way to turn off the middle mouse for panning in the ICE Tree. I _really_ miss the old behavior that had middle mouse handle branch selection boxes. It was totally consistent with everything else in XSI's selection mode. Not sure why that was even changed.
Re: Middle mouse pan in ice tree
People got annoyed when moving back and forth between Nuke and Soft. On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 8:55 PM, David Barosin wrote: > Anyone know if there is a way to turn off the middle mouse for panning in > the ICE Tree. I *really* miss the old behavior that had middle mouse > handle branch selection boxes. It was totally consistent with everything > else in XSI's selection mode. Not sure why that was even changed. > > > > >
Re: Middle mouse pan in ice tree
Yeah, that would be really lovely. That change annoys me about 15 times every day. Whenever my mind is elsewhere I fall back into the old and accustomed-to behaviour. On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 9:55 PM, David Barosin wrote: > Anyone know if there is a way to turn off the middle mouse for panning in > the ICE Tree. I *really* miss the old behavior that had middle mouse > handle branch selection boxes. It was totally consistent with everything > else in XSI's selection mode. Not sure why that was even changed. > > > > >
