Re: A freelance job.... really?
Thinking about Elance again... this kind of job would be taken by a Pakistani team in a minute. They would accept this job for 50€. On 2014-06-27 16:05, Mirko Jankovic wrote: hahahah sad thing is you can see similar to this all over Elance as well :)
Re: A freelance job.... really?
What do you think where did \all these guys got idea that it can be done like that on Elance? Elance, sadly become second name for: I need something done really cheap, Elance! As long as guys go in and offer to do expensive work for 50EUR it will happen. There are shany examples of good clients that understand what is it all about but most of jobs are like that... On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 9:23 AM, David Saber davidsa...@sfr.fr wrote: Thinking about Elance again... this kind of job would be taken by a Pakistani team in a minute. They would accept this job for 50€. On 2014-06-27 16:05, Mirko Jankovic wrote: hahahah sad thing is you can see similar to this all over Elance as well :)
Re: A freelance job.... really?
2 words, Softimage + Redshift :) (still not suggested to respond to that ad :) On 06/27/14 12:05, Patrick Neese wrote: Let's see if my basic math is up to par. 188 seconds... let's say 24fps4,512 frames * (Let's just say by some miracle) 30 minutes a frame total with all passes... 135,360 rendering minutes...Let's say I had happened to have 5 servers running full time in my walk in closet as a freelance artist. 27,072 Minutes on each machine... That's 19 days of rendering...just rendering assuming no issues...everything looks great and we are a 1:1 (Because our storyboards are so great and we even did animatics). If I had to farm that out at 5 dollars per machine hour (12 core/hours) $2,256 Shoot that leave $1,744 for modeling, rigging, animation, texture creation, texturing, lighting, simulation, custom tools, setting up render jobs, etc. I'm in!
Re: A freelance job.... really?
That sounds awfully deliberate. :-D -Tim On 6/27/2014 8:54 AM, Stephen Davidson wrote: I just thought I would post this freelance 3D animation Job, from Craigslist, for our professional animation group's ammusement. I sure gave me a good laugh http://miami.craigslist.org/mdc/cpg/4529563953.html -- Best Regards, * Stephen P. Davidson** **(954) 552-7956 *sdavid...@3danimationmagic.com /Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic/ - Arthur C. Clarke http://www.3danimationmagic.com -- Signature
Re: A freelance job.... really?
No, that seems awfully typical. On Friday, June 27, 2014 10:03:46 AM, Tim Crowson wrote: That sounds awfully deliberate. :-D -Tim On 6/27/2014 8:54 AM, Stephen Davidson wrote: I just thought I would post this freelance 3D animation Job, from Craigslist, for our professional animation group's ammusement. I sure gave me a good laugh http://miami.craigslist.org/mdc/cpg/4529563953.html -- Best Regards, * Stephen P. Davidson** **(954) 552-7956 * sdavid...@3danimationmagic.com /Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic/ - Arthur C. Clarke http://www.3danimationmagic.com -- Signature
Re: A freelance job.... really?
hahahah sad thing is you can see similar to this all over Elance as well :) On Fri, Jun 27, 2014 at 3:03 PM, Tim Crowson tim.crow...@magneticdreams.com wrote: That sounds awfully deliberate. :-D -Tim On 6/27/2014 8:54 AM, Stephen Davidson wrote: I just thought I would post this freelance 3D animation Job, from Craigslist, for our professional animation group's ammusement. I sure gave me a good laugh http://miami.craigslist.org/mdc/cpg/4529563953.html -- Best Regards, * Stephen P. Davidson* *(954) 552-7956 %28954%29%20552-7956 *sdavid...@3danimationmagic.com *Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic* - Arthur C. Clarke http://www.3danimationmagic.com --
Re: A freelance job.... really?
I know, that's why it seemed odd. Seriously though, is that a legit ad? On 6/27/2014 9:04 AM, Eric Thivierge wrote: No, that seems awfully typical. On Friday, June 27, 2014 10:03:46 AM, Tim Crowson wrote: That sounds awfully deliberate. :-D -Tim On 6/27/2014 8:54 AM, Stephen Davidson wrote: I just thought I would post this freelance 3D animation Job, from Craigslist, for our professional animation group's ammusement. I sure gave me a good laugh http://miami.craigslist.org/mdc/cpg/4529563953.html -- Best Regards, * Stephen P. Davidson** **(954) 552-7956 * sdavid...@3danimationmagic.com /Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic/ - Arthur C. Clarke http://www.3danimationmagic.com -- Signature -- Signature
Re: A freelance job.... really?
I had to share that with all my fellow animator colleagues, we needed the laugh. Thanks :) On Fri, Jun 27, 2014 at 3:54 PM, Stephen Davidson magic...@bellsouth.net wrote: I just thought I would post this freelance 3D animation Job, from Craigslist, for our professional animation group's ammusement. I sure gave me a good laugh http://miami.craigslist.org/mdc/cpg/4529563953.html -- Best Regards, * Stephen P. Davidson* *(954) 552-7956 %28954%29%20552-7956 *sdavid...@3danimationmagic.com *Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic* - Arthur C. Clarke http://www.3danimationmagic.com
RE: A freelance job.... really?
He he made me laugh too From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Stephen Davidson Sent: Friday, June 27, 2014 9:54 AM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: A freelance job really? I just thought I would post this freelance 3D animation Job, from Craigslist, for our professional animation group's ammusement. I sure gave me a good laugh http://miami.craigslist.org/mdc/cpg/4529563953.html -- Best Regards, Stephen P. Davidson (954) 552-7956 sdavid...@3danimationmagic.commailto:sdavid...@3danimationmagic.com Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic - Arthur C. Clarke [http://www.3danimationmagic.com/3Danimation_magic_logo_sign.jpg]http://www.3danimationmagic.com
Re: A freelance job.... really?
i feel he should have written at the top I'M DOING YOU A FAVOR On Friday, June 27, 2014 10:06 AM, Tim Crowson tim.crow...@magneticdreams.com wrote: I know, that's why it seemed odd. Seriously though, is that a legit ad? On 6/27/2014 9:04 AM, Eric Thivierge wrote: No, that seems awfully typical. On Friday, June 27, 2014 10:03:46 AM, Tim Crowson wrote: That sounds awfully deliberate. :-D -Tim On 6/27/2014 8:54 AM, Stephen Davidson wrote: I just thought I would post this freelance 3D animation Job, from Craigslist, for our professional animation group's ammusement. I sure gave me a good laugh http://miami.craigslist.org/mdc/cpg/4529563953.html -- Best Regards, * Stephen P. Davidson** **(954) 552-7956 * sdavid...@3danimationmagic.com /Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic/ - Arthur C. Clarke http://www.3danimationmagic.com -- Signature -- Signature
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Awesome On Fri, Jun 27, 2014 at 10:06 AM, Marco Peixoto mpe...@gmail.com wrote: I had to share that with all my fellow animator colleagues, we needed the laugh. Thanks :) On Fri, Jun 27, 2014 at 3:54 PM, Stephen Davidson magic...@bellsouth.net wrote: I just thought I would post this freelance 3D animation Job, from Craigslist, for our professional animation group's ammusement. I sure gave me a good laugh http://miami.craigslist.org/mdc/cpg/4529563953.html -- Best Regards, * Stephen P. Davidson* *(954) 552-7956 %28954%29%20552-7956 * sdavid...@3danimationmagic.com *Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic* - Arthur C. Clarke http://www.3danimationmagic.com
Re: A freelance job.... really?
I don't doubt it's legit. Seen this many times from people who think they have the next big idea for a film / short but no realistic perception of what it takes to make even the smallest project. The person might as well just put No pay, will look good on your website / demo and help you get future work. On Friday, June 27, 2014 10:10:43 AM, john clausing wrote: i feel he should have written at the top I'M DOING YOU A FAVOR On Friday, June 27, 2014 10:06 AM, Tim Crowson tim.crow...@magneticdreams.com wrote: I know, that's why it seemed odd. Seriously though, is that a legit ad? On 6/27/2014 9:04 AM, Eric Thivierge wrote: No, that seems awfully typical. On Friday, June 27, 2014 10:03:46 AM, Tim Crowson wrote: That sounds awfully deliberate. :-D -Tim On 6/27/2014 8:54 AM, Stephen Davidson wrote: I just thought I would post this freelance 3D animation Job, from Craigslist, for our professional animation group's ammusement. I sure gave me a good laugh http://miami.craigslist.org/mdc/cpg/4529563953.html -- Best Regards, * Stephen P. Davidson** **(954) 552-7956 * sdavid...@3danimationmagic.com mailto:sdavid...@3danimationmagic.com /Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic/ - Arthur C. Clarke http://www.3danimationmagic.com http://www.3danimationmagic.com/ -- Signature -- Signature
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It can't be real !...? no, it can't be :/ On Fri, Jun 27, 2014 at 4:13 PM, Chris Johnson chr...@topixfx.com wrote: Awesome On Fri, Jun 27, 2014 at 10:06 AM, Marco Peixoto mpe...@gmail.com wrote: I had to share that with all my fellow animator colleagues, we needed the laugh. Thanks :) On Fri, Jun 27, 2014 at 3:54 PM, Stephen Davidson magic...@bellsouth.net wrote: I just thought I would post this freelance 3D animation Job, from Craigslist, for our professional animation group's ammusement. I sure gave me a good laugh http://miami.craigslist.org/mdc/cpg/4529563953.html -- Best Regards, * Stephen P. Davidson* *(954) 552-7956 %28954%29%20552-7956 * sdavid...@3danimationmagic.com *Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic* - Arthur C. Clarke http://www.3danimationmagic.com -- anthony Barritault
Re: A freelance job.... really?
Everybody contact him, tell him exactly what he wants to hear, then start underbidding... -Tim On 6/27/2014 9:19 AM, Stefan Kubicek wrote: I was torn between flagging it prohibited and best of. Ultimately I couldn't resist but going for the latter :-) I know, that's why it seemed odd. Seriously though, is that a legit ad? On 6/27/2014 9:04 AM, Eric Thivierge wrote: No, that seems awfully typical. On Friday, June 27, 2014 10:03:46 AM, Tim Crowson wrote: That sounds awfully deliberate. :-D -Tim On 6/27/2014 8:54 AM, Stephen Davidson wrote: I just thought I would post this freelance 3D animation Job, from Craigslist, for our professional animation group's ammusement. I sure gave me a good laugh http://miami.craigslist.org/mdc/cpg/4529563953.html -- Best Regards, * Stephen P. Davidson** **(954) 552-7956 * sdavid...@3danimationmagic.com /Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic/ - Arthur C. Clarke http://www.3danimationmagic.com -- Signature -- Signature -- - Stefan Kubicek ste...@keyvis.at mailto:%22ste...@keyvis.at%22%20%3cste...@keyvis.at%3E - Alfred Feierfeilstraße 3 A-2380 Perchtoldsdorf bei Wien Phone: +43 (0) 699 12614231 www.keyvis.at http://www.keyvis.at This email and its attachments are confidential and for the recipient only -- Signature
Re: A freelance job.... really?
3 minutes = 4k$.um. On Friday, June 27, 2014 10:37 AM, Tim Crowson tim.crow...@magneticdreams.com wrote: Everybody contact him, tell him exactly what he wants to hear, then start underbidding... -Tim On 6/27/2014 9:19 AM, Stefan Kubicek wrote: I was torn between flagging it prohibited and best of. Ultimately I couldn't resist but going for the latter :-) I know, that's why it seemed odd. Seriously though, is that a legit ad? On 6/27/2014 9:04 AM, Eric Thivierge wrote: No, that seems awfully typical. On Friday, June 27, 2014 10:03:46 AM, Tim Crowson wrote: That sounds awfully deliberate. :-D -Tim On 6/27/2014 8:54 AM, Stephen Davidson wrote: I just thought I would post this freelance 3D animation Job, from Craigslist, for our professional animation group's ammusement. I sure gave me a good laugh http://miami.craigslist.org/mdc/cpg/4529563953.html -- Best Regards, * Stephen P. Davidson** **(954) 552-7956 * sdavid...@3danimationmagic.com /Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic/ - Arthur C. Clarke http://www.3danimationmagic.com -- Signature -- Signature -- - Stefan Kubicek ste...@keyvis.at - Alfred Feierfeilstraße 3 A-2380 Perchtoldsdorf bei Wien Phone: +43 (0) 699 12614231 www.keyvis.at This email and its attachments are confidential and for the recipient only -- Signature
Re: A freelance job.... really?
My favorite is (and I get this kind of email at least once a month): I have written a children's book and I need an animator to bring it to life. I don't have a budget, but you will get a lot of exposure and I will use you for all my future projects once this one gets off the ground. I only need a very short animation.. probably only around 15-20 minutes, so it won't take you very long to do the work. But it needs to be the same level of quality as Shrek or Toy Story, so I need your assurances that you'll produce high-quality work... Classic. Someone I've never heard of, with a book nobody has bought wants me to work for free so I can get the chance to have them hire me again someday once they hit it big... -Paul On Fri, Jun 27, 2014 at 10:37 AM, Tim Crowson tim.crow...@magneticdreams.com wrote: Everybody contact him, tell him exactly what he wants to hear, then start underbidding... -Tim On 6/27/2014 9:19 AM, Stefan Kubicek wrote: I was torn between flagging it prohibited and best of. Ultimately I couldn't resist but going for the latter :-) I know, that's why it seemed odd. Seriously though, is that a legit ad? On 6/27/2014 9:04 AM, Eric Thivierge wrote: No, that seems awfully typical. On Friday, June 27, 2014 10:03:46 AM, Tim Crowson wrote: That sounds awfully deliberate. :-D -Tim On 6/27/2014 8:54 AM, Stephen Davidson wrote: I just thought I would post this freelance 3D animation Job, from Craigslist, for our professional animation group's ammusement. I sure gave me a good laugh http://miami.craigslist.org/mdc/cpg/4529563953.html -- Best Regards, * Stephen P. Davidson** **(954) 552-7956 * sdavid...@3danimationmagic.com /Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic/ - Arthur C. Clarke http://www.3danimationmagic.com http://www.3danimationmagic.com -- Signature -- -- - Stefan Kubicek ste...@keyvis.at %22ste...@keyvis.at%22%20%3cste...@keyvis.at%3E - Alfred Feierfeilstraße 3 A-2380 Perchtoldsdorf bei Wien Phone: +43 (0) 699 12614231 www.keyvis.at This email and its attachments are confidential and for the recipient only --
Re: A freelance job.... really?
I am sorely tempted to register on the site just to send Hahahahahaha! As a response. From: Paul Griswold pgrisw...@fusiondigitalproductions.commailto:pgrisw...@fusiondigitalproductions.com Reply-To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.commailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com softimage@listproc.autodesk.commailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Date: Friday 27 June 2014 at 4:47 PM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.commailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com softimage@listproc.autodesk.commailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: A freelance job really? My favorite is (and I get this kind of email at least once a month): I have written a children's book and I need an animator to bring it to life. I don't have a budget, but you will get a lot of exposure and I will use you for all my future projects once this one gets off the ground. I only need a very short animation.. probably only around 15-20 minutes, so it won't take you very long to do the work. But it needs to be the same level of quality as Shrek or Toy Story, so I need your assurances that you'll produce high-quality work... Classic. Someone I've never heard of, with a book nobody has bought wants me to work for free so I can get the chance to have them hire me again someday once they hit it big... -Paul On Fri, Jun 27, 2014 at 10:37 AM, Tim Crowson tim.crow...@magneticdreams.commailto:tim.crow...@magneticdreams.com wrote: Everybody contact him, tell him exactly what he wants to hear, then start underbidding... -Tim On 6/27/2014 9:19 AM, Stefan Kubicek wrote: I was torn between flagging it prohibited and best of. Ultimately I couldn't resist but going for the latter :-) I know, that's why it seemed odd. Seriously though, is that a legit ad? On 6/27/2014 9:04 AM, Eric Thivierge wrote: No, that seems awfully typical. On Friday, June 27, 2014 10:03:46 AM, Tim Crowson wrote: That sounds awfully deliberate. :-D -Tim On 6/27/2014 8:54 AM, Stephen Davidson wrote: I just thought I would post this freelance 3D animation Job, from Craigslist, for our professional animation group's ammusement. I sure gave me a good laugh http://miami.craigslist.org/mdc/cpg/4529563953.html -- Best Regards, * Stephen P. Davidson** **(954) 552-7956tel:%28954%29%20552-7956 * sdavid...@3danimationmagic.commailto:sdavid...@3danimationmagic.com /Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic/ - Arthur C. Clarke http://www.3danimationmagic.comhttp://www.3danimationmagic.com -- Signature -- -- [http://www.keyvis.at/wp-content/gallery/aboutUs/keyvisLogoMail.png] - Stefan Kubicek ste...@keyvis.atmailto:%22ste...@keyvis.at%22%20%3cste...@keyvis.at%3E - Alfred Feierfeilstraße 3 A-2380 Perchtoldsdorf bei Wien Phone: +43 (0) 699 12614231 www.keyvis.athttp://www.keyvis.at This email and its attachments are confidential and for the recipient only -- table width=100% border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 style=width:100%; tr td align=left style=text-align:justify;font face=arial,sans-serif size=1 color=#99span style=font-size:11px;This communication is intended for the addressee only. It is confidential. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately and destroy the original message. You may not copy or disseminate this communication without the permission of the University. Only authorised signatories are competent to enter into agreements on behalf of the University and recipients are thus advised that the content of this message may not be legally binding on the University and may contain the personal views and opinions of the author, which are not necessarily the views and opinions of The University of the Witwatersrand, Johannesburg. All agreements between the University and outsiders are subject to South African Law unless the University agrees in writing to the contrary. /span/font/td /tr /table
Re: A freelance job.... really?
Some people are already replying to him : https://www.dropbox.com/s/gaapao9hoguvfbr/reply.jpg On Fri, Jun 27, 2014 at 5:26 PM, Angus Davidson angus.david...@wits.ac.za wrote: I am sorely tempted to register on the site just to send Hahahahahaha! As a response. From: Paul Griswold pgrisw...@fusiondigitalproductions.com Reply-To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Date: Friday 27 June 2014 at 4:47 PM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: A freelance job really? My favorite is (and I get this kind of email at least once a month): I have written a children's book and I need an animator to bring it to life. I don't have a budget, but you will get a lot of exposure and I will use you for all my future projects once this one gets off the ground. I only need a very short animation.. probably only around 15-20 minutes, so it won't take you very long to do the work. But it needs to be the same level of quality as Shrek or Toy Story, so I need your assurances that you'll produce high-quality work... Classic. Someone I've never heard of, with a book nobody has bought wants me to work for free so I can get the chance to have them hire me again someday once they hit it big... -Paul On Fri, Jun 27, 2014 at 10:37 AM, Tim Crowson tim.crow...@magneticdreams.com wrote: Everybody contact him, tell him exactly what he wants to hear, then start underbidding... -Tim On 6/27/2014 9:19 AM, Stefan Kubicek wrote: I was torn between flagging it prohibited and best of. Ultimately I couldn't resist but going for the latter :-) I know, that's why it seemed odd. Seriously though, is that a legit ad? On 6/27/2014 9:04 AM, Eric Thivierge wrote: No, that seems awfully typical. On Friday, June 27, 2014 10:03:46 AM, Tim Crowson wrote: That sounds awfully deliberate. :-D -Tim On 6/27/2014 8:54 AM, Stephen Davidson wrote: I just thought I would post this freelance 3D animation Job, from Craigslist, for our professional animation group's ammusement. I sure gave me a good laugh http://miami.craigslist.org/mdc/cpg/4529563953.html -- Best Regards, * Stephen P. Davidson** **(954) 552-7956 * sdavid...@3danimationmagic.com /Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic/ - Arthur C. Clarke http://www.3danimationmagic.com http://www.3danimationmagic.com -- Signature -- -- - Stefan Kubicek ste...@keyvis.at %22ste...@keyvis.at%22%20%3cste...@keyvis.at%3E - Alfred Feierfeilstraße 3 A-2380 Perchtoldsdorf bei Wien Phone: +43 (0) 699 12614231 www.keyvis.at This email and its attachments are confidential and for the recipient only -- This communication is intended for the addressee only. It is confidential. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately and destroy the original message. You may not copy or disseminate this communication without the permission of the University. Only authorised signatories are competent to enter into agreements on behalf of the University and recipients are thus advised that the content of this message may not be legally binding on the University and may contain the personal views and opinions of the author, which are not necessarily the views and opinions of The University of the Witwatersrand, Johannesburg. All agreements between the University and outsiders are subject to South African Law unless the University agrees in writing to the contrary.
Re: A freelance job.... really?
i hope the bad English was intentional :P On 27 June 2014 16:35, Marco Peixoto mpe...@gmail.com wrote: Some people are already replying to him : https://www.dropbox.com/s/gaapao9hoguvfbr/reply.jpg On Fri, Jun 27, 2014 at 5:26 PM, Angus Davidson angus.david...@wits.ac.za wrote: I am sorely tempted to register on the site just to send Hahahahahaha! As a response. From: Paul Griswold pgrisw...@fusiondigitalproductions.com Reply-To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Date: Friday 27 June 2014 at 4:47 PM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: A freelance job really? My favorite is (and I get this kind of email at least once a month): I have written a children's book and I need an animator to bring it to life. I don't have a budget, but you will get a lot of exposure and I will use you for all my future projects once this one gets off the ground. I only need a very short animation.. probably only around 15-20 minutes, so it won't take you very long to do the work. But it needs to be the same level of quality as Shrek or Toy Story, so I need your assurances that you'll produce high-quality work... Classic. Someone I've never heard of, with a book nobody has bought wants me to work for free so I can get the chance to have them hire me again someday once they hit it big... -Paul On Fri, Jun 27, 2014 at 10:37 AM, Tim Crowson tim.crow...@magneticdreams.com wrote: Everybody contact him, tell him exactly what he wants to hear, then start underbidding... -Tim On 6/27/2014 9:19 AM, Stefan Kubicek wrote: I was torn between flagging it prohibited and best of. Ultimately I couldn't resist but going for the latter :-) I know, that's why it seemed odd. Seriously though, is that a legit ad? On 6/27/2014 9:04 AM, Eric Thivierge wrote: No, that seems awfully typical. On Friday, June 27, 2014 10:03:46 AM, Tim Crowson wrote: That sounds awfully deliberate. :-D -Tim On 6/27/2014 8:54 AM, Stephen Davidson wrote: I just thought I would post this freelance 3D animation Job, from Craigslist, for our professional animation group's ammusement. I sure gave me a good laugh http://miami.craigslist.org/mdc/cpg/4529563953.html -- Best Regards, * Stephen P. Davidson** **(954) 552-7956 * sdavid...@3danimationmagic.com /Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic/ - Arthur C. Clarke http://www.3danimationmagic.com http://www.3danimationmagic.com -- Signature -- -- - Stefan Kubicek ste...@keyvis.at %22ste...@keyvis.at%22%20%3cste...@keyvis.at%3E - Alfred Feierfeilstraße 3 A-2380 Perchtoldsdorf bei Wien Phone: +43 (0) 699 12614231 www.keyvis.at This email and its attachments are confidential and for the recipient only -- This communication is intended for the addressee only. It is confidential. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately and destroy the original message. You may not copy or disseminate this communication without the permission of the University. Only authorised signatories are competent to enter into agreements on behalf of the University and recipients are thus advised that the content of this message may not be legally binding on the University and may contain the personal views and opinions of the author, which are not necessarily the views and opinions of The University of the Witwatersrand, Johannesburg. All agreements between the University and outsiders are subject to South African Law unless the University agrees in writing to the contrary.
Re: A freelance job.... really?
Bad english or not the meaning was pretty clear ;) From: Sebastien Sterling sebastien.sterl...@gmail.commailto:sebastien.sterl...@gmail.com Reply-To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.commailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com softimage@listproc.autodesk.commailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Date: Friday 27 June 2014 at 5:40 PM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.commailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com softimage@listproc.autodesk.commailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: A freelance job really? i hope the bad English was intentional :P On 27 June 2014 16:35, Marco Peixoto mpe...@gmail.commailto:mpe...@gmail.com wrote: Some people are already replying to him : https://www.dropbox.com/s/gaapao9hoguvfbr/reply.jpg On Fri, Jun 27, 2014 at 5:26 PM, Angus Davidson angus.david...@wits.ac.zamailto:angus.david...@wits.ac.za wrote: I am sorely tempted to register on the site just to send Hahahahahaha! As a response. From: Paul Griswold pgrisw...@fusiondigitalproductions.commailto:pgrisw...@fusiondigitalproductions.com Reply-To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.commailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com softimage@listproc.autodesk.commailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Date: Friday 27 June 2014 at 4:47 PM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.commailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com softimage@listproc.autodesk.commailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: A freelance job really? My favorite is (and I get this kind of email at least once a month): I have written a children's book and I need an animator to bring it to life. I don't have a budget, but you will get a lot of exposure and I will use you for all my future projects once this one gets off the ground. I only need a very short animation.. probably only around 15-20 minutes, so it won't take you very long to do the work. But it needs to be the same level of quality as Shrek or Toy Story, so I need your assurances that you'll produce high-quality work... Classic. Someone I've never heard of, with a book nobody has bought wants me to work for free so I can get the chance to have them hire me again someday once they hit it big... -Paul On Fri, Jun 27, 2014 at 10:37 AM, Tim Crowson tim.crow...@magneticdreams.commailto:tim.crow...@magneticdreams.com wrote: Everybody contact him, tell him exactly what he wants to hear, then start underbidding... -Tim On 6/27/2014 9:19 AM, Stefan Kubicek wrote: I was torn between flagging it prohibited and best of. Ultimately I couldn't resist but going for the latter :-) I know, that's why it seemed odd. Seriously though, is that a legit ad? On 6/27/2014 9:04 AM, Eric Thivierge wrote: No, that seems awfully typical. On Friday, June 27, 2014 10:03:46 AM, Tim Crowson wrote: That sounds awfully deliberate. :-D -Tim On 6/27/2014 8:54 AM, Stephen Davidson wrote: I just thought I would post this freelance 3D animation Job, from Craigslist, for our professional animation group's ammusement. I sure gave me a good laugh http://miami.craigslist.org/mdc/cpg/4529563953.html -- Best Regards, * Stephen P. Davidson** **(954) 552-7956tel:%28954%29%20552-7956 * sdavid...@3danimationmagic.commailto:sdavid...@3danimationmagic.com /Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic/ - Arthur C. Clarke http://www.3danimationmagic.comhttp://www.3danimationmagic.com -- Signature -- -- [http://www.keyvis.at/wp-content/gallery/aboutUs/keyvisLogoMail.png] - Stefan Kubicek ste...@keyvis.atmailto:%22ste...@keyvis.at%22%20%3cste...@keyvis.at%3E - Alfred Feierfeilstraße 3 A-2380 Perchtoldsdorf bei Wien Phone: +43 (0) 699 12614231tel:%2B43%20%280%29%20699%2012614231 www.keyvis.athttp://www.keyvis.at This email and its attachments are confidential and for the recipient only -- This communication is intended for the addressee only. It is confidential. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately and destroy the original message. You may not copy or disseminate this communication without the permission of the University. Only authorised signatories are competent to enter into agreements on behalf of the University and recipients are thus advised that the content of this message may not be legally binding on the University and may contain the personal views and opinions of the author, which are not necessarily the views and opinions of The University of the Witwatersrand, Johannesburg. All agreements between the University and outsiders are subject to South African Law unless the University agrees in writing to the contrary. table width=100% border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 style=width:100%; tr td align=left style=text-align:justify;font face=arial,sans-serif size=1 color=#99span style=font-size:11px
Re: A freelance job.... really?
yes , true! On 2014-06-27 16:05, Mirko Jankovic wrote: hahahah sad thing is you can see similar to this all over Elance as well :)
Re: A freelance job.... really?
Note, also, that this was listed under computer gigs, not under graphics...another red flag. I do get these type of job postings all the time. I just thought this one was so unrealistic, it was funny. On Fri, Jun 27, 2014 at 10:47 AM, Paul Griswold pgrisw...@fusiondigitalproductions.com wrote: My favorite is (and I get this kind of email at least once a month): I have written a children's book and I need an animator to bring it to life. I don't have a budget, but you will get a lot of exposure and I will use you for all my future projects once this one gets off the ground. I only need a very short animation.. probably only around 15-20 minutes, so it won't take you very long to do the work. But it needs to be the same level of quality as Shrek or Toy Story, so I need your assurances that you'll produce high-quality work... Classic. Someone I've never heard of, with a book nobody has bought wants me to work for free so I can get the chance to have them hire me again someday once they hit it big... -Paul On Fri, Jun 27, 2014 at 10:37 AM, Tim Crowson tim.crow...@magneticdreams.com wrote: Everybody contact him, tell him exactly what he wants to hear, then start underbidding... -Tim On 6/27/2014 9:19 AM, Stefan Kubicek wrote: I was torn between flagging it prohibited and best of. Ultimately I couldn't resist but going for the latter :-) I know, that's why it seemed odd. Seriously though, is that a legit ad? On 6/27/2014 9:04 AM, Eric Thivierge wrote: No, that seems awfully typical. On Friday, June 27, 2014 10:03:46 AM, Tim Crowson wrote: That sounds awfully deliberate. :-D -Tim On 6/27/2014 8:54 AM, Stephen Davidson wrote: I just thought I would post this freelance 3D animation Job, from Craigslist, for our professional animation group's ammusement. I sure gave me a good laugh http://miami.craigslist.org/mdc/cpg/4529563953.html -- Best Regards, * Stephen P. Davidson** **(954) 552-7956 * sdavid...@3danimationmagic.com /Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic/ - Arthur C. Clarke http://www.3danimationmagic.com http://www.3danimationmagic.com -- Signature -- -- - Stefan Kubicek ste...@keyvis.at %22ste...@keyvis.at%22%20%3cste...@keyvis.at%3E - Alfred Feierfeilstraße 3 A-2380 Perchtoldsdorf bei Wien Phone: +43 (0) 699 12614231 www.keyvis.at This email and its attachments are confidential and for the recipient only -- -- Best Regards, * Stephen P. Davidson* *(954) 552-7956*sdavid...@3danimationmagic.com *Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic* - Arthur C. Clarke http://www.3danimationmagic.com
RE: A freelance job.... really?
It's a typo. He meant a budget of 4,000,000. Maurice Patel Autodesk : Tél: 514 954-7134 attachment: winmail.dat
Re: A freelance job.... really?
Let's see if my basic math is up to par. 188 seconds... let's say 24fps4,512 frames * (Let's just say by some miracle) 30 minutes a frame total with all passes... 135,360 rendering minutes...Let's say I had happened to have 5 servers running full time in my walk in closet as a freelance artist. 27,072 Minutes on each machine... That's 19 days of rendering...just rendering assuming no issues...everything looks great and we are a 1:1 (Because our storyboards are so great and we even did animatics). If I had to farm that out at 5 dollars per machine hour (12 core/hours) $2,256 Shoot that leave $1,744 for modeling, rigging, animation, texture creation, texturing, lighting, simulation, custom tools, setting up render jobs, etc. I'm in! On Fri, Jun 27, 2014 at 10:26 AM, Angus Davidson angus.david...@wits.ac.za wrote: I am sorely tempted to register on the site just to send Hahahahahaha! As a response. From: Paul Griswold pgrisw...@fusiondigitalproductions.com Reply-To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Date: Friday 27 June 2014 at 4:47 PM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: A freelance job really? My favorite is (and I get this kind of email at least once a month): I have written a children's book and I need an animator to bring it to life. I don't have a budget, but you will get a lot of exposure and I will use you for all my future projects once this one gets off the ground. I only need a very short animation.. probably only around 15-20 minutes, so it won't take you very long to do the work. But it needs to be the same level of quality as Shrek or Toy Story, so I need your assurances that you'll produce high-quality work... Classic. Someone I've never heard of, with a book nobody has bought wants me to work for free so I can get the chance to have them hire me again someday once they hit it big... -Paul On Fri, Jun 27, 2014 at 10:37 AM, Tim Crowson tim.crow...@magneticdreams.com wrote: Everybody contact him, tell him exactly what he wants to hear, then start underbidding... -Tim On 6/27/2014 9:19 AM, Stefan Kubicek wrote: I was torn between flagging it prohibited and best of. Ultimately I couldn't resist but going for the latter :-) I know, that's why it seemed odd. Seriously though, is that a legit ad? On 6/27/2014 9:04 AM, Eric Thivierge wrote: No, that seems awfully typical. On Friday, June 27, 2014 10:03:46 AM, Tim Crowson wrote: That sounds awfully deliberate. :-D -Tim On 6/27/2014 8:54 AM, Stephen Davidson wrote: I just thought I would post this freelance 3D animation Job, from Craigslist, for our professional animation group's ammusement. I sure gave me a good laugh http://miami.craigslist.org/mdc/cpg/4529563953.html -- Best Regards, * Stephen P. Davidson** **(954) 552-7956 * sdavid...@3danimationmagic.com /Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic/ - Arthur C. Clarke http://www.3danimationmagic.com http://www.3danimationmagic.com -- Signature -- -- - Stefan Kubicek ste...@keyvis.at %22ste...@keyvis.at%22%20%3cste...@keyvis.at%3E - Alfred Feierfeilstraße 3 A-2380 Perchtoldsdorf bei Wien Phone: +43 (0) 699 12614231 www.keyvis.at This email and its attachments are confidential and for the recipient only -- This communication is intended for the addressee only. It is confidential. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately and destroy the original message. You may not copy or disseminate this communication without the permission of the University. Only authorised signatories are competent to enter into agreements on behalf of the University and recipients are thus advised that the content of this message may not be legally binding on the University and may contain the personal views and opinions of the author, which are not necessarily the views and opinions of The University of the Witwatersrand, Johannesburg. All agreements between the University and outsiders are subject to South African Law unless the University agrees in writing to the contrary.
RE: A freelance job.... really?
And throw in a previs for free because it is such a deal! Maurice Patel Autodesk : Tél: 514 954-7134 From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Patrick Neese Sent: Friday, June 27, 2014 12:06 PM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: A freelance job really? Let's see if my basic math is up to par. 188 seconds... let's say 24fps4,512 frames * (Let's just say by some miracle) 30 minutes a frame total with all passes... 135,360 rendering minutes...Let's say I had happened to have 5 servers running full time in my walk in closet as a freelance artist. 27,072 Minutes on each machine... That's 19 days of rendering...just rendering assuming no issues...everything looks great and we are a 1:1 (Because our storyboards are so great and we even did animatics). If I had to farm that out at 5 dollars per machine hour (12 core/hours) $2,256 Shoot that leave $1,744 for modeling, rigging, animation, texture creation, texturing, lighting, simulation, custom tools, setting up render jobs, etc. I'm in! On Fri, Jun 27, 2014 at 10:26 AM, Angus Davidson angus.david...@wits.ac.zamailto:angus.david...@wits.ac.za wrote: I am sorely tempted to register on the site just to send Hahahahahaha! As a response. From: Paul Griswold pgrisw...@fusiondigitalproductions.commailto:pgrisw...@fusiondigitalproductions.com Reply-To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.commailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com softimage@listproc.autodesk.commailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Date: Friday 27 June 2014 at 4:47 PM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.commailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com softimage@listproc.autodesk.commailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: A freelance job really? My favorite is (and I get this kind of email at least once a month): I have written a children's book and I need an animator to bring it to life. I don't have a budget, but you will get a lot of exposure and I will use you for all my future projects once this one gets off the ground. I only need a very short animation.. probably only around 15-20 minutes, so it won't take you very long to do the work. But it needs to be the same level of quality as Shrek or Toy Story, so I need your assurances that you'll produce high-quality work... Classic. Someone I've never heard of, with a book nobody has bought wants me to work for free so I can get the chance to have them hire me again someday once they hit it big... -Paul On Fri, Jun 27, 2014 at 10:37 AM, Tim Crowson tim.crow...@magneticdreams.commailto:tim.crow...@magneticdreams.com wrote: Everybody contact him, tell him exactly what he wants to hear, then start underbidding... -Tim On 6/27/2014 9:19 AM, Stefan Kubicek wrote: I was torn between flagging it prohibited and best of. Ultimately I couldn't resist but going for the latter :-) I know, that's why it seemed odd. Seriously though, is that a legit ad? On 6/27/2014 9:04 AM, Eric Thivierge wrote: No, that seems awfully typical. On Friday, June 27, 2014 10:03:46 AM, Tim Crowson wrote: That sounds awfully deliberate. :-D -Tim On 6/27/2014 8:54 AM, Stephen Davidson wrote: I just thought I would post this freelance 3D animation Job, from Craigslist, for our professional animation group's ammusement. I sure gave me a good laugh http://miami.craigslist.org/mdc/cpg/4529563953.html -- Best Regards, * Stephen P. Davidson** **(954) 552-7956tel:%28954%29%20552-7956 * sdavid...@3danimationmagic.commailto:sdavid...@3danimationmagic.com /Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic/ - Arthur C. Clarke http://www.3danimationmagic.comhttp://www.3danimationmagic.com -- Signature -- -- [http://www.keyvis.at/wp-content/gallery/aboutUs/keyvisLogoMail.png] - Stefan Kubicek ste...@keyvis.atmailto:%22ste...@keyvis.at%22%20%3cste...@keyvis.at%3E - Alfred Feierfeilstraße 3 A-2380 Perchtoldsdorf bei Wien Phone: +43 (0) 699 12614231tel:%2B43%20%280%29%20699%2012614231 www.keyvis.athttp://www.keyvis.at This email and its attachments are confidential and for the recipient only -- This communication is intended for the addressee only. It is confidential. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately and destroy the original message. You may not copy or disseminate this communication without the permission of the University. Only authorised signatories are competent to enter into agreements on behalf of the University and recipients are thus advised that the content of this message may not be legally binding on the University and may contain the personal views and opinions of the author, which are not necessarily the views and opinions of The University of the Witwatersrand, Johannesburg
Re: A freelance job.... really?
Ha ha, dream gig! Can't wait to take it :D Sent from my iPhone On Jun 27, 2014, at 9:38 PM, Maurice Patel maurice.pa...@autodesk.com wrote: And throw in a previs for free because it is such a deal! Maurice Patel Autodesk : Tél: 514 954-7134 From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Patrick Neese Sent: Friday, June 27, 2014 12:06 PM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: A freelance job really? Let's see if my basic math is up to par. 188 seconds... let's say 24fps4,512 frames * (Let's just say by some miracle) 30 minutes a frame total with all passes... 135,360 rendering minutes...Let's say I had happened to have 5 servers running full time in my walk in closet as a freelance artist. 27,072 Minutes on each machine... That's 19 days of rendering...just rendering assuming no issues...everything looks great and we are a 1:1 (Because our storyboards are so great and we even did animatics). If I had to farm that out at 5 dollars per machine hour (12 core/hours) $2,256 Shoot that leave $1,744 for modeling, rigging, animation, texture creation, texturing, lighting, simulation, custom tools, setting up render jobs, etc. I'm in! On Fri, Jun 27, 2014 at 10:26 AM, Angus Davidson angus.david...@wits.ac.zamailto:angus.david...@wits.ac.za wrote: I am sorely tempted to register on the site just to send Hahahahahaha! As a response. From: Paul Griswold pgrisw...@fusiondigitalproductions.commailto:pgrisw...@fusiondigitalproductions.com Reply-To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.commailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com softimage@listproc.autodesk.commailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Date: Friday 27 June 2014 at 4:47 PM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.commailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com softimage@listproc.autodesk.commailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: A freelance job really? My favorite is (and I get this kind of email at least once a month): I have written a children's book and I need an animator to bring it to life. I don't have a budget, but you will get a lot of exposure and I will use you for all my future projects once this one gets off the ground. I only need a very short animation.. probably only around 15-20 minutes, so it won't take you very long to do the work. But it needs to be the same level of quality as Shrek or Toy Story, so I need your assurances that you'll produce high-quality work... Classic. Someone I've never heard of, with a book nobody has bought wants me to work for free so I can get the chance to have them hire me again someday once they hit it big... -Paul On Fri, Jun 27, 2014 at 10:37 AM, Tim Crowson tim.crow...@magneticdreams.commailto:tim.crow...@magneticdreams.com wrote: Everybody contact him, tell him exactly what he wants to hear, then start underbidding... -Tim On 6/27/2014 9:19 AM, Stefan Kubicek wrote: I was torn between flagging it prohibited and best of. Ultimately I couldn't resist but going for the latter :-) I know, that's why it seemed odd. Seriously though, is that a legit ad? On 6/27/2014 9:04 AM, Eric Thivierge wrote: No, that seems awfully typical. On Friday, June 27, 2014 10:03:46 AM, Tim Crowson wrote: That sounds awfully deliberate. :-D -Tim On 6/27/2014 8:54 AM, Stephen Davidson wrote: I just thought I would post this freelance 3D animation Job, from Craigslist, for our professional animation group's ammusement. I sure gave me a good laugh http://miami.craigslist.org/mdc/cpg/4529563953.html -- Best Regards, * Stephen P. Davidson** **(954) 552-7956tel:%28954%29%20552-7956 * sdavid...@3danimationmagic.commailto:sdavid...@3danimationmagic.com /Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic/ - Arthur C. Clarke http://www.3danimationmagic.comhttp://www.3danimationmagic.com -- Signature -- -- [http://www.keyvis.at/wp-content/gallery/aboutUs/keyvisLogoMail.png] - Stefan Kubicek ste...@keyvis.atmailto:%22ste...@keyvis.at%22%20%3cste...@keyvis.at%3E - Alfred Feierfeilstraße 3 A-2380 Perchtoldsdorf bei Wien Phone: +43 (0) 699 12614231tel:%2B43%20%280%29%20699%2012614231 www.keyvis.athttp://www.keyvis.at This email and its attachments are confidential and for the recipient only -- This communication is intended for the addressee only. It is confidential. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately and destroy the original message. You may not copy or disseminate this communication without the permission of the University. Only authorised signatories are competent to enter into agreements on behalf
Re: A freelance job.... really?
Prime Focus gearing up again? Adam. (from the spam bin) _ Yoyo Digital Ltd. UK +44 (0) 7956 976 245 http://www.linkedin.com/in/adamseeleyuk https://vimeo.com/adamseeley From: Stephen Davidson magic...@bellsouth.net To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Sent: Friday, 27 June 2014, 14:54 Subject: A freelance job really? I just thought I would post this freelance 3D animation Job, from Craigslist, for our professional animation group's ammusement. I sure gave me a good laugh http://miami.craigslist.org/mdc/cpg/4529563953.html -- Best Regards, Stephen P. Davidson (954) 552-7956 sdavid...@3danimationmagic.com Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic - Arthur C. Clarke
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The person might as well just put No pay, will look good on your website / demo and help you get future work. would certainly generate more goodwill than what he wrote. this will go wrong in so many ways it's not funny. unless you're into sarcasm. which I am of course. On Friday, June 27, 2014 10:10:43 AM, john clausing wrote: i feel he should have written at the top I'M DOING YOU A FAVOR On Friday, June 27, 2014 10:06 AM, Tim Crowson tim.crow...@magneticdreams.com wrote: I know, that's why it seemed odd. Seriously though, is that a legit ad? On 6/27/2014 9:04 AM, Eric Thivierge wrote: No, that seems awfully typical. On Friday, June 27, 2014 10:03:46 AM, Tim Crowson wrote: That sounds awfully deliberate. :-D -Tim On 6/27/2014 8:54 AM, Stephen Davidson wrote: I just thought I would post this freelance 3D animation Job, from Craigslist, for our professional animation group's ammusement. I sure gave me a good laugh http://miami.craigslist.org/mdc/cpg/4529563953.html -- Best Regards, * Stephen P. Davidson** **(954) 552-7956 * sdavid...@3danimationmagic.com mailto:sdavid...@3danimationmagic.com /Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic/ - Arthur C. Clarke http://www.3danimationmagic.com http://www.3danimationmagic.com/ -- Signature -- Signature
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Can we get the VFX supe on this show to reply? That would be hilarious. -Lu On Fri, Jun 27, 2014 at 10:43 AM, pete...@skynet.be wrote: The person might as well just put No pay, will look good on your website / demo and help you get future work. would certainly generate more goodwill than what he wrote. this will go wrong in so many ways it's not funny. unless you're into sarcasm. which I am of course. On Friday, June 27, 2014 10:10:43 AM, john clausing wrote: i feel he should have written at the top I'M DOING YOU A FAVOR On Friday, June 27, 2014 10:06 AM, Tim Crowson tim.crow...@magneticdreams.com wrote: I know, that's why it seemed odd. Seriously though, is that a legit ad? On 6/27/2014 9:04 AM, Eric Thivierge wrote: No, that seems awfully typical. On Friday, June 27, 2014 10:03:46 AM, Tim Crowson wrote: That sounds awfully deliberate. :-D -Tim On 6/27/2014 8:54 AM, Stephen Davidson wrote: I just thought I would post this freelance 3D animation Job, from Craigslist, for our professional animation group's ammusement. I sure gave me a good laugh http://miami.craigslist.org/mdc/cpg/4529563953.html -- Best Regards, * Stephen P. Davidson** **(954) 552-7956 * sdavid...@3danimationmagic.com mailto:sdavid...@3danimationmagic.com /Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic/ - Arthur C. Clarke http://www.3danimationmagic.com http://www.3danimationmagic.com/ -- Signature -- Signature
