Re: Saving web sites
On Tue, 21 Apr 2009 22:47:07 -0700 (PDT), JeffM wrote: Scrapbook is a Firefox extension, which helps you to save Web pages and easily manage collections. Key features are lightness, speed, accuracy and multi-language support. Major features are: That's nice, but the things I want to know right away are: Does it produce a single file per page? No. It produces as many files as the original webpage uses. What is the file format? Plain html/css/{png|gif|etc} files. Are the files compressed? No. Can the files be used with other browsers? Any browser that can open html/css and graphics files. If you are running Lynx you won't see any images. Phil -- Philip Chee phi...@aleytys.pc.my, philip.c...@gmail.com http://flashblock.mozdev.org/ http://xsidebar.mozdev.org Guard us from the she-wolf and the wolf, and guard us from the thief, oh Night, and so be good for us to pass. [ ]IF 1 + 2 = 3 THEN 4 + 5 = 6 * TagZilla 0.066.6 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: What wrong with this SeaMonkey
Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote: Garrett Czmor wrote: Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote: Garrett Czmor wrote: Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote: Garrett Czmor wrote: I think I found two: XFX1SHYS.slt C:\documents and settings\administrator\application data\mozilla\profiles\default 11/23/08 Y6hfjqyz.slt c:\documents and settings\administrator\application data\ mozilla\profiles\Default User 4/21/09 fantastic, now we're getting somewhere. It looks like you have 2 profiles, and yet, the SM Profile manager isn't seeing the other. So, close SM, and make sure its closed by looking in the task manager [ctrl+alt+del]. If you see SM in the Process tab, then end it. I'll explain about this below. Once SM is closed, click on the windows start button, then run and enter: seamonkey.exe -p this will bring up the SM profile manager. From there, create a new profile and call it: default exactly as I have it. Don't call it Default or it might not work. Now, you should see a button called Choose Folder. Click on that, and point it to: C:\documents and settings\administrator\application data\mozilla\profiles\default and don't go any further. SM Should now pick up that profile and you can start using it. Start SM using that profile. Do you see your old mail, bookmarks, etc? Something else you might want to know. I clicked off the internet and had just my desktop screen running when I got this message. Seamonkey encountered a problem and needs to close. It was already closed? Another box showed Seamonkey.exe APPNAME: Seamonkey.exe APPVER 1.8.20090.40306 MODNAME:jsd3250.dll OFFSET:2177 Basically SeaMonkey works and I can get my mail (might have a Verizon problem) but it still crahes once in a while. sometimes when you close SM, its still running in the background eventhough you can't see it. You can check by looking in the task manager and see if its there. Some of the common causes of this is because you're still streaming audio or video and that part of SM plugins needs to close first before SM officially closes. Sometimes this can take a long time. For others, like me, its only a few seconds. Other causes is a bad addon/extension, a poorly writing java applet, and a few others. In your case its jsd3250.dll. I have no idea what this is or what to do about it. From what I can find, it seems to happen for those using Yahoo Mail, and you need an updated firebug: http://support.mozilla.com/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?locale=en-USforumId=1comments_parentId=26115 If you don't have this addon, then I would hesitate in adding it. OK, I did exactly everything you said to the letter. What I got was a brand new SeaMonkey asking me to set up a email account etc.(with the SeaMonkey welcome page) My book marks are gone too. I didn't check to see if my mail was there because it acts like I'm a new user again. In order to answer you now, I'm using the other default user profile which has everything. I'd say that trick didn't work. look inside that 'default' profile. Any folders, mail, bookmarks.html, .s file [thats password], etc? Whats in that directory? Anything? If there are some things, then with SM closed, for the mail, rename the inbox, sent, drafts to inbox-1, sent-1, or whatever you want. You only want to change the files without the .msf extension. Now, copy all the mail files [without the .msf files] and copy them to the other profile you use, and put them into the Local Folders of your main profile. Now, open SM. SM should have picked up those files. Did they? If there is a bookmarks.html file, then from the browser, click on Bookmarks, Organize Bookmarks, then from the bookmark manager window, click on File, Open Bookmarks, and open that bookmarks.html file. Are all your bookmarks there? OK now it's getting confusing. I looked in the default profile and found two dir. h2217q86.slt and xfx1shys.slt The h2217q86.slt has a sub dir of chrome.rdf and also localstore.rdf, panels.rdf, bookmarks, mail views, prefs, history, mimetypes.rdf and search.rdf The xfx1shys.slt has sub dir such as cache, news, chrome, mail, and a bunch of other files that include bookmarks,html This is somewhat confusing to me because the two .slt files also have some of the same files within (such as mail and bookmarks). When I opened the mail folder (in the xfx1shys.slt) I see mail folder with Pennswoods.net address. This is very old (maybe 2 years or so), so I don't know if I should be copying files so old into the default user profile that I'm using now. I didn't do anything but locate the files for you and figured I need to double check with you first before doing anything further. I hope after you see this, you can walk me through any changes ... just not sure these changes are good. I have no idea what you did to get a profile within a profile. Thats confusing. Just follow the instructions I gave
Re: Migrating from Mozilla to SeaMonkey
MalcolmO escreveu: The hacks needed to install it are very mature and easy to apply. I'd recommend upgrading, even though it's not officially supported. The one I like is half-booting to a command line, telling the machine its speed is 867 and then continuing the boot into OSX. Then when the installer asks, the Mac says it's the required speed and the install happens. When you boot the next time, you're back to being 800 but Leopard is installed and running. A LOT simpler than editing the DVD. Just a couple lines of typing. I've got the link somewhere. IMHO, the best alternative to most users is Leopard Assistant: http://www.mac.profusehost.net/leopardassist/ No need to edit the DVD, no need to drop to the terminal, no need to remember OpenFirmware commands. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Does anyone care about this?
That is you download more than 39,897 messages the counter runs backwards? It reads; Downloading 1 of 40767 Downloading 1 of 40766 Downloading 1 of 40765 Until you get to 38,897 then it reads properly, except the maximum value is 39,897 I wonder if this is a server thing? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: What wrong with this SeaMonkey
Daniel wrote: Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote: Garrett Czmor wrote: Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote: Garrett Czmor wrote: Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote: Garrett Czmor wrote: I think I found two: XFX1SHYS.slt C:\documents and settings\administrator\application data\mozilla\profiles\default 11/23/08 Y6hfjqyz.slt c:\documents and settings\administrator\application data\ mozilla\profiles\Default User 4/21/09 fantastic, now we're getting somewhere. It looks like you have 2 profiles, and yet, the SM Profile manager isn't seeing the other. So, close SM, and make sure its closed by looking in the task manager [ctrl+alt+del]. If you see SM in the Process tab, then end it. I'll explain about this below. Once SM is closed, click on the windows start button, then run and enter: seamonkey.exe -p this will bring up the SM profile manager. From there, create a new profile and call it: default exactly as I have it. Don't call it Default or it might not work. Now, you should see a button called Choose Folder. Click on that, and point it to: C:\documents and settings\administrator\application data\mozilla\profiles\default and don't go any further. SM Should now pick up that profile and you can start using it. Start SM using that profile. Do you see your old mail, bookmarks, etc? Something else you might want to know. I clicked off the internet and had just my desktop screen running when I got this message. Seamonkey encountered a problem and needs to close. It was already closed? Another box showed Seamonkey.exe APPNAME: Seamonkey.exe APPVER 1.8.20090.40306 MODNAME:jsd3250.dll OFFSET:2177 Basically SeaMonkey works and I can get my mail (might have a Verizon problem) but it still crahes once in a while. sometimes when you close SM, its still running in the background eventhough you can't see it. You can check by looking in the task manager and see if its there. Some of the common causes of this is because you're still streaming audio or video and that part of SM plugins needs to close first before SM officially closes. Sometimes this can take a long time. For others, like me, its only a few seconds. Other causes is a bad addon/extension, a poorly writing java applet, and a few others. In your case its jsd3250.dll. I have no idea what this is or what to do about it. From what I can find, it seems to happen for those using Yahoo Mail, and you need an updated firebug: http://support.mozilla.com/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?locale=en-USforumId=1comments_parentId=26115 If you don't have this addon, then I would hesitate in adding it. OK, I did exactly everything you said to the letter. What I got was a brand new SeaMonkey asking me to set up a email account etc.(with the SeaMonkey welcome page) My book marks are gone too. I didn't check to see if my mail was there because it acts like I'm a new user again. In order to answer you now, I'm using the other default user profile which has everything. I'd say that trick didn't work. look inside that 'default' profile. Any folders, mail, bookmarks.html, .s file [thats password], etc? Whats in that directory? Anything? If there are some things, then with SM closed, for the mail, rename the inbox, sent, drafts to inbox-1, sent-1, or whatever you want. You only want to change the files without the .msf extension. Now, copy all the mail files [without the .msf files] and copy them to the other profile you use, and put them into the Local Folders of your main profile. Now, open SM. SM should have picked up those files. Did they? If there is a bookmarks.html file, then from the browser, click on Bookmarks, Organize Bookmarks, then from the bookmark manager window, click on File, Open Bookmarks, and open that bookmarks.html file. Are all your bookmarks there? OK now it's getting confusing. I looked in the default profile and found two dir. h2217q86.slt and xfx1shys.slt The h2217q86.slt has a sub dir of chrome.rdf and also localstore.rdf, panels.rdf, bookmarks, mail views, prefs, history, mimetypes.rdf and search.rdf The xfx1shys.slt has sub dir such as cache, news, chrome, mail, and a bunch of other files that include bookmarks,html This is somewhat confusing to me because the two .slt files also have some of the same files within (such as mail and bookmarks). When I opened the mail folder (in the xfx1shys.slt) I see mail folder with Pennswoods.net address. This is very old (maybe 2 years or so), so I don't know if I should be copying files so old into the default user profile that I'm using now. I didn't do anything but locate the files for you and figured I need to double check with you first before doing anything further. I hope after you see this, you can walk me through any changes ... just not sure these changes are good. I have no idea what you did to get a profile within a profile. Thats confusing. Just follow the
Re: What wrong with this SeaMonkey
Garrett Czmor wrote: I routinely save the mail that I want to disk and I also have saved email addresses. Wouldn't it be a whole lot easier to just delete the whole damn SeaMonkey completely out and start over with a fresh download, then add my addresses and book marks later? deleting usually doesn't accomplish anything, but if you want to, go ahead. But, if you reinstall, SM will pick up the same profile as before and start using that. You would also have to remove the profile, and all the other profiles you have listed. Restart SM with a fresh profile and go from there. Or, just leave SM and the profile alone, and just mannually remove those other profiles that aren't showing up in the profile manager. -- *IMPORTANT*: Sorry folks, but I cannot provide email help Emails to me may become public Notice: This posting is protected under the Free Speech Laws, which applies everywhere in the FREE world, except for some strange reason, not to the mozilla.org newsgroup servers, where your posting may get you banned. Peter Potamus His Magic Flying Balloon: http://melaman2.com/cartoons/singles/mp3/p-potamus.mp3 http://www.toonopedia.com/potamus.htm ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Does anyone care about this?
Email Moz Champion (Dan) wrote: Rob Steinmetz wrote: That is you download more than 39,897 messages the counter runs backwards? It reads; Downloading 1 of 40767 Downloading 1 of 40766 Downloading 1 of 40765 Until you get to 38,897 then it reads properly, except the maximum value is 39,897 I wonder if this is a server thing? What counter? Where? Mail? Newsgroups? I've never downloaded that many messages at one time ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Does anyone care about this?
Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo: Perhaps that is the reason for the problem If the phenomenon exists it should also be valid for newsgroups. Easy to test. Join a newsgroup with more than 40,000 postings, enter it and decide to download all headers. Hartmut, too lazy :) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Since 1.1.16: single mouse clicks seen as double-clicks?
I realize this sounds strange, but I'm really just wondering if anyone else is seeing it. I'm running SeaMonkey 1.1.16 on both Linux (CentOS 5.2) and Windows (XP SP3) and on both, since upgrading SeaMonkey to 1.1.16 (from 1.1.13) a few times per day, a single click on something is seen as a double click. For example, I run the Mail and Newsgroup client in the three frame view, where it shows the tree view on the left, the list of messages across the top and the message preview pane along the bottom. At times, when I click on a message in the list view, not only is the message selected, but it is opened in a new window - just as though I had double-clicked on it. Also, at times when I click on, say, a news group in the tree view, a new Mail and Newsgroup application window is opened, as though I had double clicked on it. I've since been very, very careful to be sure that I'm not double- clicking, but still it happens a few times a day on both platforms. It's not the double-click speed of the mouse, as that says how long of a delay between single clicks is allowed for the set of clicks to be interpreted as a double-click. In my case, I'm only clicking the mouse once. Anyone else seeing this? Thanks, ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Since 1.1.16: single mouse clicks seen as double-clicks?
Mark Hansen wrote: On 04/22/09 15:07, Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote: Mark Hansen wrote: I realize this sounds strange, but I'm really just wondering if anyone else is seeing it. I'm running SeaMonkey 1.1.16 on both Linux (CentOS 5.2) and Windows (XP SP3) and on both, since upgrading SeaMonkey to 1.1.16 (from 1.1.13) a few times per day, a single click on something is seen as a double click. For example, I run the Mail and Newsgroup client in the three frame view, where it shows the tree view on the left, the list of messages across the top and the message preview pane along the bottom. At times, when I click on a message in the list view, not only is the message selected, but it is opened in a new window - just as though I had double-clicked on it. Also, at times when I click on, say, a news group in the tree view, a new Mail and Newsgroup application window is opened, as though I had double clicked on it. I've since been very, very careful to be sure that I'm not double- clicking, but still it happens a few times a day on both platforms. It's not the double-click speed of the mouse, as that says how long of a delay between single clicks is allowed for the set of clicks to be interpreted as a double-click. In my case, I'm only clicking the mouse once. Anyone else seeing this? Thanks, are you using the same box for both windows and linux? If so, then get a new mouse. If not, then what have you got running in the background of both computers? I had that once and it turned out to be a hidden windows program running in the background. I disabled it and things went back to normal. Two separate work stations. I am using the same model mouse on both machines, but I've been using it for about 6 months now with no problems (until upgrading to SeaMonkey 1.1.16). Both machines have lots of things running in the background, as is the way with both Windows and Linux. Nothing is running that I would suspect as causing any problems. Nothing new in any case (except, again, SeaMonkey 1.1.16). I guess I can go back to 1.1.13 and see if the problem goes away. Is anyone else seeing this? if its the same mouse for both machines, then either get new mouse drivers or try a new mouse. -- *IMPORTANT*: Sorry folks, but I cannot provide email help Emails to me may become public Notice: This posting is protected under the Free Speech Laws, which applies everywhere in the FREE world, except for some strange reason, not to the mozilla.org newsgroup servers, where your posting may get you banned. Peter Potamus His Magic Flying Balloon: http://melaman2.com/cartoons/singles/mp3/p-potamus.mp3 http://www.toonopedia.com/potamus.htm ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: slow speed of newsreader
Martin Feitag wrote: Leonidas Jones schrieb: zvnteq7 wrote: Leonidas Jones wrote: Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote: zvnteq7 wrote: zvnteq7 wrote: zvnteq7 wrote: Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote: zvnteq7 wrote: I noticed that moving between newsgroup messages is much slower in SM than it is in TB, is there a way to speed this up? I mean it's not super slow but there is a noticeable difference between the two. Help appreciated, Thanks close SM and remove the file hostperm.1. Reopen SM and try again. Did that work? I can't even find hostperm.1 , it's not in the profile folder, could it be in another folder? Thanks Whoops my bad, well I was looking in the wrong 'profile' folder, I found the right one this way: http://kb.mozillazine.org/Profile_folder_-_SeaMonkey#For_Windows_users Thanks for your help though :) Crap, still slower than TB :/ Maybe TB is just... a little faster? nope, I find SM and TB just as fast No difference noted as well. Lee Well one ray of light, the 2.0 Alpha 3 is slightly faster than 1.1.6 :) (I just installed it and it's working great so far) and yes, *I* can tell the difference :) 2.0a3 has crashed several times for me over the last month, something the 1.1.x series never did. Be patient, it's still an alpha-version ;-) (though I have to say it doesn't crash often here) On the whole though, I find it a great improvement. yeah :-) Martin Oh not often at all, maybe once or twice a week. Still, its more then I ever saw with 1.1.x. Its not enough to cause a problem, and I've been using it as my default app for quite a while now. I am quite sure the problem will be solved, and its going to be a great release. Lee ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: slow speed of newsreader
Leonidas Jones wrote: Martin Feitag wrote: Leonidas Jones schrieb: zvnteq7 wrote: Leonidas Jones wrote: Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote: zvnteq7 wrote: zvnteq7 wrote: zvnteq7 wrote: Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote: zvnteq7 wrote: I noticed that moving between newsgroup messages is much slower in SM than it is in TB, is there a way to speed this up? I mean it's not super slow but there is a noticeable difference between the two. Help appreciated, Thanks close SM and remove the file hostperm.1. Reopen SM and try again. Did that work? I can't even find hostperm.1 , it's not in the profile folder, could it be in another folder? Thanks Whoops my bad, well I was looking in the wrong 'profile' folder, I found the right one this way: http://kb.mozillazine.org/Profile_folder_-_SeaMonkey#For_Windows_users Thanks for your help though :) Crap, still slower than TB :/ Maybe TB is just... a little faster? nope, I find SM and TB just as fast No difference noted as well. Lee Well one ray of light, the 2.0 Alpha 3 is slightly faster than 1.1.6 :) (I just installed it and it's working great so far) and yes, *I* can tell the difference :) 2.0a3 has crashed several times for me over the last month, something the 1.1.x series never did. Be patient, it's still an alpha-version ;-) (though I have to say it doesn't crash often here) On the whole though, I find it a great improvement. yeah :-) Martin Oh not often at all, maybe once or twice a week. Still, its more then I ever saw with 1.1.x. Its not enough to cause a problem, and I've been using it as my default app for quite a while now. I am quite sure the problem will be solved, and its going to be a great release. Lee Hmmm are you comparing an alpha version (2.0a3) to a release version (1.1.x) - isnt that like comparing Grapes and raisins? I would expect any alpha version to crash, after all, there is a reason it hasn't been upgraded to beta yet! grin ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Does anyone care about this?
ad...@mmri.us wrote: We have been through this to death. Please see previous threads. I as well as others top post as in my opinion it is outdated. Post as you wish. Moz Champion (Dan) wrote: ad...@mmri.us wrote: That's nothing. I am running over 8GB and have all my mails since 1998 and never lost anything on Linux. Here is the output of my $ du -H 8.1G/cxbro3sb.slt Before that, using NT and Win95/98 I lost mails about once every 6 months due to Windows going corrupt dumping check files all over the drive. Although there is a horde of irritating non-working things in Mozilla/Seamonkey, the entire Netscape/Mozilla/Seamonkey migration path I followed never sacrificed my mail and that is worth gold compared to the bugs and irritations. Outlook users I know, regularly lose their mail, approximately every 2 years or shorter. Moz Champion (Dan) wrote: thats over 2,350,00kb or 2,300mb or slightly more than 2 gigabytes Um, please bottom post or intersperse in these newsgroups (or mailing lists), thank you for your consideration in this regard see http://www.mozilla.org/community/etiquette.html And the object/intent of my message was NOT discussing how many email you can store safely in Thunderbird, but how many you can download at ONE time! You may have 8gb of mail built up since 1998, but you don't download them all at one time, and the question of the OP was why the count went backwards when you did. Your comment is superfleous ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey In that case, begone. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: slow speed of newsreader
Moz Champion (Dan) wrote: Leonidas Jones wrote: Martin Feitag wrote: Leonidas Jones schrieb: zvnteq7 wrote: Leonidas Jones wrote: Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote: zvnteq7 wrote: zvnteq7 wrote: zvnteq7 wrote: Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote: zvnteq7 wrote: I noticed that moving between newsgroup messages is much slower in SM than it is in TB, is there a way to speed this up? I mean it's not super slow but there is a noticeable difference between the two. Help appreciated, Thanks close SM and remove the file hostperm.1. Reopen SM and try again. Did that work? I can't even find hostperm.1 , it's not in the profile folder, could it be in another folder? Thanks Whoops my bad, well I was looking in the wrong 'profile' folder, I found the right one this way: http://kb.mozillazine.org/Profile_folder_-_SeaMonkey#For_Windows_users Thanks for your help though :) Crap, still slower than TB :/ Maybe TB is just... a little faster? nope, I find SM and TB just as fast No difference noted as well. Lee Well one ray of light, the 2.0 Alpha 3 is slightly faster than 1.1.6 :) (I just installed it and it's working great so far) and yes, *I* can tell the difference :) 2.0a3 has crashed several times for me over the last month, something the 1.1.x series never did. Be patient, it's still an alpha-version ;-) (though I have to say it doesn't crash often here) On the whole though, I find it a great improvement. yeah :-) Martin Oh not often at all, maybe once or twice a week. Still, its more then I ever saw with 1.1.x. Its not enough to cause a problem, and I've been using it as my default app for quite a while now. I am quite sure the problem will be solved, and its going to be a great release. Lee Hmmm are you comparing an alpha version (2.0a3) to a release version (1.1.x) - isnt that like comparing Grapes and raisins? I would expect any alpha version to crash, after all, there is a reason it hasn't been upgraded to beta yet! grin I am indeed, which is the point of testing. ;) And it is a favorable comparison! Lee ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: slow speed of newsreader
On Wed, 22 Apr 2009 23:12:05 -0400, Leonidas Jones wrote: I would expect any alpha version to crash, after all, there is a reason it hasn't been upgraded to beta yet! grin I am indeed, which is the point of testing. ;) And there is no point testing if you don't report problems to us! Phil -- Philip Chee phi...@aleytys.pc.my, philip.c...@gmail.com http://flashblock.mozdev.org/ http://xsidebar.mozdev.org Guard us from the she-wolf and the wolf, and guard us from the thief, oh Night, and so be good for us to pass. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: slow speed of newsreader
On Wed, 22 Apr 2009 20:46:47 -0400, Leonidas Jones wrote: Martin Feitag wrote: Be patient, it's still an alpha-version ;-) (though I have to say it doesn't crash often here) Oh not often at all, maybe once or twice a week. Still, its more then I ever saw with 1.1.x. I do hope that you guys running 2.0a/b have turned on the crash reporter AND are filing crash bugs. Because if you aren't nobody is going to fix those bugs (unless it's in code shared with either Thunderbird or Firefox and someone there has already filed some crash bugs) because the developers aren't aware of those. Also it's better to file a crash bug and have it marked as a duplicate than to suffer in silence in case nobody else has filed a bug. Phil -- Philip Chee phi...@aleytys.pc.my, philip.c...@gmail.com http://flashblock.mozdev.org/ http://xsidebar.mozdev.org Guard us from the she-wolf and the wolf, and guard us from the thief, oh Night, and so be good for us to pass. [ ]Mercifully free of the ravages of intelligence. * TagZilla 0.066.6 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey