Re: Brand New to SeaMonkey, trying out 2.x, multiple questions
On 30 ago, 20:17, Sue Morton 867-5...@domain.invalid wrote: oficial por escrito en algún lugar, que no hay motivo de preocupación aquí. 2. Nuevo_grupo certificado de seguridad usando, SSL, y el puerto 443. No se puede enviar un respuesta, sólo se puede leer. Tiene que cambiar el grupo a la normalidad sin 119 certificado o SSL para poder enviar la respuesta. Esto es trabajar en Outhouse Express. 3. No se puede configurar el mismo cuenta de correo para utilizar SMTP diferente de salida servidores. Esto es trabajar en Outhouse Express mediante la creación de la misma cuenta varias veces. Veo que puede cambiar el servidor de forma manual en la SM cuenta antes de usarlo, pero desde que me conecto con los servidores de diferentes con frecuencia, esto es un poco de un PITA. 4. Algunos cuadros de diálogo son demasiado altos para la resolución de la pantalla y no son desplazable, no puede llegar a la OK / Cancelar botones y / o no pueden alcanzar la parte superior de la de diálogo. (Uno de mi PC es un 10 netbook, la resolución de pantalla máxima es de 1024 x 600, e incluso después de cambiar la altura de mi barra de tareas a los más pequeños y de propiedades para ocultarse automáticamente, todavía apenas puede arrastrar los cuadros de diálogo por fuera de la pantalla lo suficiente como para llegar a los botones.) 5. Algunos cuadros de diálogo (por ejemplo, la componen) no permiten la personalización de la barra de herramientas como los otros cuadros de diálogo y pantallas. Yo prefiero los iconos pequeños con un texto a la derecha, como Esto maximiza la cantidad de vertical inmobiliario disponible, especialmente en mi netbook. ¿Le gustaría que esté disponible para todas las barras de herramientas en todos los diálogos. Ayuda y orientación sobre cómo proceder con cada uno de estos elementos se aprecia, gracias. -- Sue Morton try multizilla addons, lucky, serching ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Brand New to SeaMonkey, trying out 2.x, multiple questions
Sue Morton wrote: All as I suspected... With so many people using SM, I thought I might see something about this false positive, on the site somewhere. But I did not find it... thanks for reassurance :-) I just added the following item to the Troubleshooting section of the SeaMonkey 2.0 Beta 2 release notes I'm preparing: Some anti-virus software keeps detecting our installers as containing a Trojan or Downloader. This is a false positive and is some wrong detection mechanism in the anti-virus software. The code in question is actually from 7zip and decompesses the installer so that it's contents can run and install SeaMonkey. We assume that some malware code also gets compressed with the free 7zip tools and the anti-virus companies wrongly detect that perfectly sane code instead of the actually bad code. Mozilla scans all our files routinely when putting them on the FTP server and we assure you that our installers are as clean as the official Firefox downloads that are scanned by the same mechanisms. Does this paragraph sound clear and understandable enough? Robert Kaiser ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Brand New to SeaMonkey, trying out 2.x, multiple questions
Hi Robert, Thank you for doing this :-) The only point in question for me, is the phrase, We assume. This 'read' that SM devs are assuming some malware gets added in because of using 7zip :-) Just a first impression upon reading the phrase, I'm fairly certain you were referring to the collective 'we'. In re-reading the paragraph I think that entire sentence could be dropped: --- The code in question is actually from 7zip and decompesses the installer so that it's contents can run and install SeaMonkey. Mozilla scans all our files routinely when putting them on the FTP server and we assure you that our installers are as clean as the official Firefox downloads that are scanned by the same mechanisms. --- I do believe this will be helpful to people coming to the site. Many of my friends and family are not 'technically inclined' and will not delve into any mysteries. I have 'beat' them into practicing computing safety for so long, if they see a scan 'positive' they will move on until they find something without any warnings. Of course I have also beat them for believing everything they read on the internet :-) so they are just as unlikely to believe this disclaimer. Nonetheless the disclaimer provides information about what is likely a continually-encountered issue with the installers, and shows that SM community is aware of it. Thank you again for your consideration of adding this info to the site. -- Sue Morton Robert Kaiser ka...@kairo.at wrote in message news:_zudnrx7cug6awhxnz2dnuvz_jhi4...@mozilla.org... Sue Morton wrote: All as I suspected... With so many people using SM, I thought I might see something about this false positive, on the site somewhere. But I did not find it... thanks for reassurance :-) I just added the following item to the Troubleshooting section of the SeaMonkey 2.0 Beta 2 release notes I'm preparing: Some anti-virus software keeps detecting our installers as containing a Trojan or Downloader. This is a false positive and is some wrong detection mechanism in the anti-virus software. The code in question is actually from 7zip and decompesses the installer so that it's contents can run and install SeaMonkey. We assume that some malware code also gets compressed with the free 7zip tools and the anti-virus companies wrongly detect that perfectly sane code instead of the actually bad code. Mozilla scans all our files routinely when putting them on the FTP server and we assure you that our installers are as clean as the official Firefox downloads that are scanned by the same mechanisms. Does this paragraph sound clear and understandable enough? Robert Kaiser ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Security Error: Domain Name Mismatch
I have changed the companies name but here is the error: You have attempted to establish a connection with secure.companyebill.com. However, the security certificate presented belongs to *company.com. It is possible, though unlikely, that someone may be trying to intercept your communication with this web site. If you suspect the certificate shown does not belong to secure.companyebill.com, please cancel the connection and notify the site administrator. The choices are: View Certificate, OK, Cancel and Help. The odd thing is, I'm not trying to connect to the site. I have a bookmark for this company in a Credit Pay folder in a Companies folder in the dropdown menu for my Bookmarks so I'm not trying to connect to the site I'm just hovering over the link to the bookmark for the company in the sub folder. I don't have to click on the link to get the error. This is a company that recently changed their bill pay address and I can tell you that their customer service is beyond bad and poor but I have no option to not use this company and/or their online bill pay so is there some way I can accept this certificate every time without having to select OK and/or contact the site administrator. All they will tell me is they don't support SeaMonkey. Speaking of that, it's Version 1.1.17 but it's not a SM problem. I guess I could move the bookmark out of the folder if there is no other work around. -- JD.. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Security Error: Domain Name Mismatch
On 09/01/09 06:10, JD wrote: I have changed the companies name but here is the error: You have attempted to establish a connection with secure.companyebill.com. However, the security certificate presented belongs to *company.com. It is possible, though unlikely, that someone may be trying to intercept your communication with this web site. If you suspect the certificate shown does not belong to secure.companyebill.com, please cancel the connection and notify the site administrator. The choices are: View Certificate, OK, Cancel and Help. The odd thing is, I'm not trying to connect to the site. I have a bookmark for this company in a Credit Pay folder in a Companies folder in the dropdown menu for my Bookmarks so I'm not trying to connect to the site I'm just hovering over the link to the bookmark for the company in the sub folder. I don't have to click on the link to get the error. This is a company that recently changed their bill pay address and I can tell you that their customer service is beyond bad and poor but I have no option to not use this company and/or their online bill pay so is there some way I can accept this certificate every time without having to select OK and/or contact the site administrator. All they will tell me is they don't support SeaMonkey. Speaking of that, it's Version 1.1.17 but it's not a SM problem. I guess I could move the bookmark out of the folder if there is no other work around. Can you use a browser they do support, just to prove that it is not a SeaMonkey problem and get them to look at it? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Brand New to SeaMonkey, trying out 2.x, multiple questions
Sue Morton wrote: The only point in question for me, is the phrase, We assume. This 'read' that SM devs are assuming some malware gets added in because of using 7zip :-) Just a first impression upon reading the phrase, I'm fairly certain you were referring to the collective 'we'. In re-reading the paragraph I think that entire sentence could be dropped Probably, I just thought it might be good to offer an idea who the anti-virus companies come to even list 7zip in their malware definitions, to not make them look like jerks. But probably it's not our job to find out why anti-virus companies are getting it wrong ;-) Robert Kaiser ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Brand New to SeaMonkey, trying out 2.x, multiple questions
Robert Kaiser wrote: Sue Morton wrote: The only point in question for me, is the phrase, We assume. This 'read' that SM devs are assuming some malware gets added in because of using 7zip :-) Just a first impression upon reading the phrase, I'm fairly certain you were referring to the collective 'we'. In re-reading the paragraph I think that entire sentence could be dropped Probably, I just thought it might be good to offer an idea who the anti-virus companies come to even list 7zip in their malware definitions, to not make them look like jerks. But probably it's not our job to find out why anti-virus companies are getting it wrong ;-) I agree with you. May be it's because the anti-virus cannot look inside a 7zip file, so he concludes that the file is suspicious. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Security Error: Domain Name Mismatch
On 9/1/2009 11:16 AM, NoOp wrote: On 09/01/2009 06:10 AM, JD wrote: I have changed the companies name but here is the error: You have attempted to establish a connection with secure.companyebill.com. However, the security certificate presented belongs to *company.com. It is possible, though unlikely, that someone may be trying to intercept your communication with this web site. If you suspect the certificate shown does not belong to secure.companyebill.com, please cancel the connection and notify the site administrator. The choices are: View Certificate, OK, Cancel and Help. The odd thing is, I'm not trying to connect to the site. I have a bookmark for this company in a Credit Pay folder in a Companies folder in the dropdown menu for my Bookmarks so I'm not trying to connect to the site I'm just hovering over the link to the bookmark for the company in the sub folder. I don't have to click on the link to get the error. Something is definitely odd here. You should _only_ get the warning if you _click_ the link. Here is a test (taken from the SeaMonkey smoketests modified slightly) that I'd like you to try: Wrong! If the site has a favicon and your preferences are set to put the icon on the bookmark, merely opening the Bookmarks Manager will attempt to fetch the icon. (If the bookmark is in a folder, opening the folder within Bookmarks Manager is required.) If it's a secure site, the site certificate must be negotiated. This does not require actually selecting a link to the site or even hovering (mouse over) the bookmark. 1. Go to https://www.verisign.com/ and book mark that page. Now in Bookmarks|Manage Bookmarks - go to that link, right-click select 'Properties' and change the URL to https://www.verisign.org/. 2. Exit Bookmarks, open Bookmarks and hover your mouse over the bookmarked https://www.verisign.org/. Does it warn you about a certificate issue? How about if you click on the bookmark? -- David E. Ross http://www.rossde.com/ Go to Mozdev at http://www.mozdev.org/ for quick access to extensions for Firefox, Thunderbird, SeaMonkey, and other Mozilla-related applications. You can access Mozdev much more quickly than you can Mozilla Add-Ons. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Security Error: Domain Name Mismatch
On 9/1/2009 6:10 AM, JD wrote: I have changed the companies name but here is the error: You have attempted to establish a connection with secure.companyebill.com. However, the security certificate presented belongs to *company.com. It is possible, though unlikely, that someone may be trying to intercept your communication with this web site. If you suspect the certificate shown does not belong to secure.companyebill.com, please cancel the connection and notify the site administrator. The choices are: View Certificate, OK, Cancel and Help. The odd thing is, I'm not trying to connect to the site. I have a bookmark for this company in a Credit Pay folder in a Companies folder in the dropdown menu for my Bookmarks so I'm not trying to connect to the site I'm just hovering over the link to the bookmark for the company in the sub folder. I don't have to click on the link to get the error. This is a company that recently changed their bill pay address and I can tell you that their customer service is beyond bad and poor but I have no option to not use this company and/or their online bill pay so is there some way I can accept this certificate every time without having to select OK and/or contact the site administrator. All they will tell me is they don't support SeaMonkey. Speaking of that, it's Version 1.1.17 but it's not a SM problem. I guess I could move the bookmark out of the folder if there is no other work around. The error popup you get should have three radio buttons: Accept this certificate permanently Accept this certificate temporarily for this session Do not accept this certificate and do not connect to this Web site Select either the first button (if you are truly convinced that you have not been led to a bogus site) or the second button (if you are not sure). Then select the OK button. (I would not attempt any financial transactions in the second case.) -- David E. Ross http://www.rossde.com/ Go to Mozdev at http://www.mozdev.org/ for quick access to extensions for Firefox, Thunderbird, SeaMonkey, and other Mozilla-related applications. You can access Mozdev much more quickly than you can Mozilla Add-Ons. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Security Error: Domain Name Mismatch
David E. Ross wrote: On 9/1/2009 11:16 AM, NoOp wrote: On 09/01/2009 06:10 AM, JD wrote: I have changed the companies name but here is the error: You have attempted to establish a connection with secure.companyebill.com. However, the security certificate presented belongs to *company.com. It is possible, though unlikely, that someone may be trying to intercept your communication with this web site. If you suspect the certificate shown does not belong to secure.companyebill.com, please cancel the connection and notify the site administrator. The choices are: View Certificate, OK, Cancel and Help. The odd thing is, I'm not trying to connect to the site. I have a bookmark for this company in a Credit Pay folder in a Companies folder in the dropdown menu for my Bookmarks so I'm not trying to connect to the site I'm just hovering over the link to the bookmark for the company in the sub folder. I don't have to click on the link to get the error. Something is definitely odd here. You should _only_ get the warning if you _click_ the link. Here is a test (taken from the SeaMonkey smoketests modified slightly) that I'd like you to try: Wrong! If the site has a favicon and your preferences are set to put the icon on the bookmark, merely opening the Bookmarks Manager will attempt to fetch the icon. (If the bookmark is in a folder, opening the folder within Bookmarks Manager is required.) If it's a secure site, the site certificate must be negotiated. This does not require actually selecting a link to the site or even hovering (mouse over) the bookmark. You have described exactly what was happening and the site did have a favicon and it was on the bookmark. Did you see my Resolution reply? 1. Go to https://www.verisign.com/ and book mark that page. Now in Bookmarks|Manage Bookmarks - go to that link, right-click select 'Properties' and change the URL to https://www.verisign.org/. 2. Exit Bookmarks, open Bookmarks and hover your mouse over the bookmarked https://www.verisign.org/. Does it warn you about a certificate issue? How about if you click on the bookmark? -- JD.. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Security Error: Domain Name Mismatch
David E. Ross wrote: On 9/1/2009 6:10 AM, JD wrote: I have changed the companies name but here is the error: You have attempted to establish a connection with secure.companyebill.com. However, the security certificate presented belongs to *company.com. It is possible, though unlikely, that someone may be trying to intercept your communication with this web site. If you suspect the certificate shown does not belong to secure.companyebill.com, please cancel the connection and notify the site administrator. The choices are: View Certificate, OK, Cancel and Help. The odd thing is, I'm not trying to connect to the site. I have a bookmark for this company in a Credit Pay folder in a Companies folder in the dropdown menu for my Bookmarks so I'm not trying to connect to the site I'm just hovering over the link to the bookmark for the company in the sub folder. I don't have to click on the link to get the error. This is a company that recently changed their bill pay address and I can tell you that their customer service is beyond bad and poor but I have no option to not use this company and/or their online bill pay so is there some way I can accept this certificate every time without having to select OK and/or contact the site administrator. All they will tell me is they don't support SeaMonkey. Speaking of that, it's Version 1.1.17 but it's not a SM problem. I guess I could move the bookmark out of the folder if there is no other work around. The error popup you get should have three radio buttons: Accept this certificate permanently Accept this certificate temporarily for this session Do not accept this certificate and do not connect to this Web site Select either the first button (if you are truly convinced that you have not been led to a bogus site) or the second button (if you are not sure). Then select the OK button. (I would not attempt any financial transactions in the second case.) I'm looking at a screen capture of the error popup and the options were: View Certificate, OK, Cancel and Help. If I recall, when I selected View Certificate I didn't have the acceptance options. It's moot now since I resolved it, did you see my Resolution Reply? -- JD.. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
