Re: Virus in mail folders

2010-02-21 Thread Monica

Mark Hansen wrote:

On 2/20/2010 4:57 PM, Monica wrote:

Glen wrote:

Monica wrote:

I have an updated antivirus program but still got virus in 4 of my mail
folders. F-secure can´t remove them it seems so I am wondering if I can
just delete the mail folders where the viruses sit. Does anyone know ?


Monica,
Try downloading Malwarebytes (free version), do a full scan, and see
what it comes up with. You can also install Avast as well, for full time
protection.

I hope this helps.

Glen

I thought that my F-Secure Internet Security 2010 would be enough.


It is if the results you're getting are good enough for you.
They really have been so far! Maybe the fact that I discovered that 
there is a heuristic scanning option, and has started using it, that 
changed things. As I understand it that option does look for possibly 
suspicious objects in a totally different way.


Keep in mind too that you may have a false positive, where your
virus software is reporting what it *thinks* is a virus. Whether
or not there actually is a virus there is a different story.


Yes, because of the heursitic way of scanning now,  maybe those viruses 
reported (which can´t be removed) aren´t really viruses at all. How can 
one check that?




Perhaps you could try moving the messages from that mail folder
into a temporary mail folder, and see if the virus moves with
the messages. If it does, you can even go as far is moving only
some messages at a time until you determine which one is causing
the problem. Then just delete that message.


Yes, but you see in regards to the folders where the viruses are said to 
be, no messages what so ever show up there when I look at those 
ordinary mail folders in the mail client. I can only see a lot of 
messages in there when I open the folders in a text editor. Should I 
move them from where I see them in text editor to a temporary mail 
folder (through the text editor)?


Good luck. Sometimes, viruses can be pretty nasty.



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Re: Lots of content in empty mail folders...

2010-02-21 Thread Monica

Leonidas Jones wrote:

Monica wrote:

I have been looking in a couple of mail folders in my Profile using a
text editor, and I see a lot of (text) content in there even though the
folders are empty when I check them in the SM mail client. How can
this be?


You need to compact your folders.

Messages deleted in the SM UI are not really deleted, rather they are
removed from your view, and marked for deletion. Compacting the folders
accomplishes this deletion.

FileCompact Folders

Lee
Oh yes, I now remember this feature, it used to come up every so often 
asking me if I want to compact folders. I haven´t seen that in a long 
time though, probably disappeared with one of my updates of SM! How can 
I get the option to get this reminding request back?

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Re: Virus in mail folders

2010-02-21 Thread Monica

Glen wrote:

Monica wrote:

I have an updated antivirus program but still got virus in 4 of my mail
folders. F-secure can´t remove them it seems so I am wondering if I can
just delete the mail folders where the viruses sit. Does anyone know ?


Monica,
Try downloading Malwarebytes (free version), do a full scan, and see
what it comes up with. You can also install Avast as well, for full time
protection.

I hope this helps.

Glen


I d/l Malwarebytes and did a scan, and it found 4 objects (3 trojans and 
1 adware). I had them removed and did a full scan which then came up 
clean. Ater that I did another full scan with my F-secure Internet 
Security 2010 and it still shows the 4 viruses (different from the ones 
Malwarebytes found).

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Re: Different dictionary for different accounts and per specific message?

2010-02-21 Thread Daniel

Philip Chee wrote:

On Fri, 19 Feb 2010 20:54:04 +1100, Daniel wrote:

Arne wrote:

Daniel wrote:



Ahh! An extension for which you first need another extension (xsidebar).


No, the url may confuse you. But there is nothing on the page saying you
need xsidebar to make it work. I don't have xsidebar and the switcher
works even then.


O.K., thanks for that clarification, Arne. I thought all the xsidebar
extensions required that xsidebar was installed first.


I need to update that webpage (I've already updated the modified Firefox
extensions page). For SeaMonkey **2.0**, xSidebar isn't needed. Sorry
for the confusion.

Phil



Thanks for clarifing that, Phil, and thanks for all your works.

Daniel
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Re: newest version

2010-02-21 Thread BJ

JeffM wrote:

The day Microsoft makes something that doesn't suck
is probably the day they start making vacuum cleaners.
  --Ernst Jan Plugge

 Here's one for you, Jeff:

I'm not proud.  We really haven't done everything we could to protect
 our customers.  Our products just aren't engineered for security.
  --Microsoft VP in charge of Windows OS Development, Brian Valentine.

BJ
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Re: Virus in mail folders

2010-02-21 Thread Daniel

Monica wrote:

Mark Hansen wrote:

On 2/20/2010 4:57 PM, Monica wrote:

Glen wrote:

Monica wrote:


snip


Yes, but you see in regards to the folders where the viruses are said to
be, no messages what so ever show up there when I look at those
ordinary mail folders in the mail client. I can only see a lot of
messages in there when I open the folders in a text editor. Should I
move them from where I see them in text editor to a temporary mail
folder (through the text editor)?


Monica, when you delete a message from your mail inbox, it is not really 
deleted, just some of the coding in the message header is changed, so 
SeaMonkey knows not to display the message title.


To really delete the message, you should select File-Empty Trash and 
then File-Compact files.


Try this and see if that gets rid of your virus.

Daniel
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Re: Lots of content in empty mail folders...

2010-02-21 Thread Daniel

Monica wrote:

Leonidas Jones wrote:

Monica wrote:

I have been looking in a couple of mail folders in my Profile using a
text editor, and I see a lot of (text) content in there even though the
folders are empty when I check them in the SM mail client. How can
this be?


You need to compact your folders.

Messages deleted in the SM UI are not really deleted, rather they are
removed from your view, and marked for deletion. Compacting the folders
accomplishes this deletion.

FileCompact Folders

Lee

Oh yes, I now remember this feature, it used to come up every so often
asking me if I want to compact folders. I haven´t seen that in a long
time though, probably disappeared with one of my updates of SM! How can
I get the option to get this reminding request back?


Monica, what do you have set at Edit-Preferences-Mail  
Newsgroups-Network Settings in the part labeled Disk Space? Maybe you 
need a smaller number!


Daniel

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Re: Virus in mail folders

2010-02-21 Thread Bernard Mercier

Monica avait écrit le 21/02/2010 :

Glen wrote:

Monica wrote:

I have an updated antivirus program but still got virus in 4 of my mail
folders. F-secure can´t remove them it seems so I am wondering if I can
just delete the mail folders where the viruses sit. Does anyone know ?


Monica,
Try downloading Malwarebytes (free version), do a full scan, and see
what it comes up with. You can also install Avast as well, for full time
protection.

I hope this helps.

Glen


I d/l Malwarebytes and did a scan, and it found 4 objects (3 trojans and 1 
adware). I had them removed and did a full scan which then came up clean. 
Ater that I did another full scan with my F-secure Internet Security 2010 and 
it still shows the 4 viruses (different from the ones Malwarebytes found).
It could be false positives, in which case you should see with the 
F-Security support (forum ?) what to do in such a case.


--
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Re: Virus in mail folders

2010-02-21 Thread Monica

Daniel wrote:

Monica wrote:

Mark Hansen wrote:

On 2/20/2010 4:57 PM, Monica wrote:

Glen wrote:

Monica wrote:


snip


Yes, but you see in regards to the folders where the viruses are said to
be, no messages what so ever show up there when I look at those
ordinary mail folders in the mail client. I can only see a lot of
messages in there when I open the folders in a text editor. Should I
move them from where I see them in text editor to a temporary mail
folder (through the text editor)?


Monica, when you delete a message from your mail inbox, it is not really
deleted, just some of the coding in the message header is changed, so
SeaMonkey knows not to display the message title.

To really delete the message, you should select File-Empty Trash and
then File-Compact files.

Try this and see if that gets rid of your virus.

Daniel
Thanks, that finally did the trick! Have to remember to compact folders! 
I just to get reminders/requests if I would like to compact folders, but 
I don´t see that any more. Does anyone know if it is a setting somewhere?

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Re: Lots of content in empty mail folders...

2010-02-21 Thread Monica

Daniel wrote:

Monica wrote:

Leonidas Jones wrote:

Monica wrote:

I have been looking in a couple of mail folders in my Profile using a
text editor, and I see a lot of (text) content in there even though the
folders are empty when I check them in the SM mail client. How can
this be?


You need to compact your folders.

Messages deleted in the SM UI are not really deleted, rather they are
removed from your view, and marked for deletion. Compacting the folders
accomplishes this deletion.

FileCompact Folders

Lee

Oh yes, I now remember this feature, it used to come up every so often
asking me if I want to compact folders. I haven´t seen that in a long
time though, probably disappeared with one of my updates of SM! How can
I get the option to get this reminding request back?


Monica, what do you have set at Edit-Preferences-Mail 
Newsgroups-Network Settings in the part labeled Disk Space? Maybe you
need a smaller number!

Daniel


I see I haven´t set that at all. What number would be considered default?
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Re: Virus in mail folders

2010-02-21 Thread Monica

Daniel wrote:

Monica wrote:

Mark Hansen wrote:

On 2/20/2010 4:57 PM, Monica wrote:

Glen wrote:

Monica wrote:


snip


Yes, but you see in regards to the folders where the viruses are said to
be, no messages what so ever show up there when I look at those
ordinary mail folders in the mail client. I can only see a lot of
messages in there when I open the folders in a text editor. Should I
move them from where I see them in text editor to a temporary mail
folder (through the text editor)?


Monica, when you delete a message from your mail inbox, it is not really
deleted, just some of the coding in the message header is changed, so
SeaMonkey knows not to display the message title.

To really delete the message, you should select File-Empty Trash and
then File-Compact files.

Try this and see if that gets rid of your virus.

Daniel
Thanks, that finally did the trick! Have to remember to compact folders! 
I used to get reminders/requests if I would like to compact folders, but 
I don´t see that any more. Does anyone know if it is a setting somewhere?

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Re: Bad upgrade from 1.1.18 to 2.03

2010-02-21 Thread Robert Kaiser

cmcadams schrieb:

A question for the developers: In the installation there's a target
field, displaying the default target, with a Browse button beside it.
WHY is that button there if you already KNOW installing to an
alternative destination will likely fail?


It isn't likely to fail - UNLESS you install OVER an old SeaMonkey version.

Robert Kaiser
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Re: Yenc decoder

2010-02-21 Thread MCBastos
Interviewed by CNN on 20/2/2010 15:49, Juiceman told the world:
 Im wondering why Seamonky has never had a yEnc decoder built into the 
 program? Also why people post yEnc pictures? Does yEnc encoded pictures 
 save that much space or bandwidth?

Well, the Mozilla project is all for following (and fostering)
standards. The problem is that yEnc is not a recognized standard -- and
besides, it has serious design flaws. And you should think twice about
implementing/endorsing a spec that *its own author* criticizes...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/YEnc
http://www.faerber.muc.de/temp/20020304-yenc-harmful.html

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Re: Virus in mail folders

2010-02-21 Thread MCBastos
Interviewed by CNN on 20/2/2010 22:19, Monica told the world:
 I have an updated antivirus program but still got virus in 4 of my mail 
 folders. F-secure can´t remove them it seems so I am wondering if I can 
 just delete the mail folders where the viruses sit. Does anyone know ? 
 

Well, yes, in principle you could just delete the entire folders. But in
many cases this is like curing dandruff by decapitation -- you get rid
of an infected message, but you lose your good messages with it. And
some folders shouldn't be deleted from within Seamonkey.

Viruses in email are attachments; furthermore, they are almost always
attachments in undesirable messages (spam). So you might delete just
those messages.

Some combinations of antivirus and e-mail software are unable to delete
the infected attachment automatically; but they usually offer some
alternative way of rendering it harmless. For instance, my antivirus
can't delete infected email attachments, but it can *rename* then so
even if you extract the attachment, it won't be seen by the system as an
executable file.

To be safer while doing this maintenance, you should set up your
Seamonkey to view messages as Simple HTML or Plain text -- this
option can be found on the View menu of the mail window. Some
malicious messages could have crafty HTML coding geared to increase the
chances of infection, which Simple HTML would ignore.

Anyway... to sum it all up, do the following:
1. Check if your antivirus offers another option to neutralize the
virus, such as renaming.
2. Set Seamonkey to display messages as Simple HTML or Plain text
3. Look for and delete the problem messages.
4. Empty your Deleted messages folder.
5. Compact the message folders to get rid of any virus remains.

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Re: Virus in mail folders

2010-02-21 Thread Monica

MCBastos wrote:

Interviewed by CNN on 20/2/2010 22:19, Monica told the world:

I have an updated antivirus program but still got virus in 4 of my mail
folders. F-secure can´t remove them it seems so I am wondering if I can
just delete the mail folders where the viruses sit. Does anyone know ?



Well, yes, in principle you could just delete the entire folders. But in
many cases this is like curing dandruff by decapitation -- you get rid
of an infected message, but you lose your good messages with it. And
some folders shouldn't be deleted from within Seamonkey.

Viruses in email are attachments; furthermore, they are almost always
attachments in undesirable messages (spam). So you might delete just
those messages.

Some combinations of antivirus and e-mail software are unable to delete
the infected attachment automatically; but they usually offer some
alternative way of rendering it harmless. For instance, my antivirus
can't delete infected email attachments, but it can *rename* then so
even if you extract the attachment, it won't be seen by the system as an
executable file.

To be safer while doing this maintenance, you should set up your
Seamonkey to view messages as Simple HTML or Plain text -- this
option can be found on the View menu of the mail window. Some
malicious messages could have crafty HTML coding geared to increase the
chances of infection, which Simple HTML would ignore.

Anyway... to sum it all up, do the following:
1. Check if your antivirus offers another option to neutralize the
virus, such as renaming.
2. Set Seamonkey to display messages as Simple HTML or Plain text
3. Look for and delete the problem messages.
4. Empty your Deleted messages folder.
5. Compact the message folders to get rid of any virus remains.


Thanks I was able to get rid of it all through compacting my mail folders!
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Re: Virus in mail folders

2010-02-21 Thread JAS
Monica wrote:
 Daniel wrote:
 Monica wrote:
 Mark Hansen wrote:
 On 2/20/2010 4:57 PM, Monica wrote:
 Glen wrote:
 Monica wrote:

 snip

 Yes, but you see in regards to the folders where the viruses are
 said to
 be, no messages what so ever show up there when I look at those
 ordinary mail folders in the mail client. I can only see a lot of
 messages in there when I open the folders in a text editor. Should I
 move them from where I see them in text editor to a temporary mail
 folder (through the text editor)?

 Monica, when you delete a message from your mail inbox, it is not really
 deleted, just some of the coding in the message header is changed, so
 SeaMonkey knows not to display the message title.

 To really delete the message, you should select File-Empty Trash and
 then File-Compact files.

 Try this and see if that gets rid of your virus.

 Daniel
 Thanks, that finally did the trick! Have to remember to compact
 folders! I used to get reminders/requests if I would like to compact
 folders, but I don´t see that any more. Does anyone know if it is a
 setting somewhere?
Also remember if you have backed up SM with say Moz backup there could
be a infected email in it. It is of no danger beling compacted but you
still may get a reading from a virus scan.

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Re: Bad upgrade from 1.1.18 to 2.03

2010-02-21 Thread Mark Hansen
On 2/20/2010 6:29 PM, cmcadams wrote:
 A question for the developers: In the installation there's a target 
 field, displaying the default target, with a Browse button beside it. 
 WHY is that button there if you already KNOW installing to an 
 alternative destination will likely fail?
 
 Craig

Who said installing to an alternate location will likely fail?

Why would they put a steering wheel in your car if steering the
car into a tree could be fatal? ;-\
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Re: Email trouble with v2.0.3 - maybe

2010-02-21 Thread Mark Hansen
On 2/20/2010 7:33 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
 BeeNeR wrote:
 
 
 You can check the e-mail address here.  If it returns good there's a
 problem someplace.
 
 http://hexillion.com/email_validation/
 
 Not as far as I can tell. The site promises email validation, but when I 
 entered a test address all I got was a list of free online network 
 utilities. It was a complete waste of time.
 

Try just a little harder. On that page, click on the email dossier
link: http://centralops.net/co/EmailDossier.aspx
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Re: Bad upgrade from 1.1.18 to 2.03

2010-02-21 Thread cmcadams

Robert Kaiser wrote:

cmcadams schrieb:

A question for the developers: In the installation there's a target
field, displaying the default target, with a Browse button beside it.
WHY is that button there if you already KNOW installing to an
alternative destination will likely fail?


It isn't likely to fail - UNLESS you install OVER an old SeaMonkey version.

Robert Kaiser


Which it wasn't. And this is an ancient problem, as I discovered when 
filing a bugzilla report. Migration doesn't work in certain 
circumstances, period.


Craig
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Seamonkey Hogging CPU

2010-02-21 Thread Bob Minchin
It seems that around the same time that Seamonkey updated itself from 
2.0.2 to 2.0.3 yesterday that is has got a bad habit of slowly 
increasing the amount of CPU power/time to 50% when apparently idle.


Anyone else having this problem or got any ideas of a fix please.

TIA

Bob
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Re: Bad upgrade from 1.1.18 to 2.03

2010-02-21 Thread cmcadams

Mark Hansen wrote:

On 2/20/2010 6:29 PM, cmcadams wrote:

A question for the developers: In the installation there's a target
field, displaying the default target, with a Browse button beside it.
WHY is that button there if you already KNOW installing to an
alternative destination will likely fail?

Craig


Who said installing to an alternate location will likely fail?


I did.

See generally:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=seamonkey+migration

Specifically, I recall having to go through the same rigamarole 
transferring from Mozilla to Seamonkey. Not a new problem.



Why would they put a steering wheel in your car if steering the
car into a tree could be fatal? ;-\


Ask Toyota. Ask a meaningful question, get a meaningful answer.

Craig
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Re: newest version

2010-02-21 Thread David E. Ross
On 2/20/2010 8:18 AM, MCBastos wrote:
 Interviewed by CNN on 19/2/2010 22:36, David E. Ross told the world:
 On 2/19/2010 12:51 PM, JeffM wrote:
 Phillip Jones wrote:
 Page designers that design pages for w3c [compliance]
 should add a notation.
 /This website was written to World Wide Web Consortium Standards
 and should show properly on the vast Major of Web browsers

 There's even a tag for that.
 Put this in an HTML file and view that with IE, then Gecko:
 !--[if IE]br
 Only Internet Exploder can see this text.br
 ![endif]--br

 /If not please contact the creator of the browser that does not,
 and please tell them you will discontinue use of
 [their] product until [it] meets specifications/.

 ...or simply:
 This site best viewed with a standards-compliant browser.
 http://google.com/search?q=%22+best.viewed.with.a.standards-compliant.browser
 When combined with the tag shown above
 and using large red text, it grabs the attention.
 Using the flash tag would put the icing on the cake.

 The funny thing about w3c is MS is one of the Signatories of W3C

 It's easier to do damage when you're one of the Fifth Column
 than when you're an overtly declared enemy:
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embrace,_extend_and_extinguish

 If appears that more is required to sniff for IE.  I tried your example.
  The same text showed in both IE 7 and SeaMonkey 2.0.3.

 
 Try this:
 
 !--[if IE]
   div id=ienote
 p class=warningCompatibility Warning/p
 
 pThis website was written to a href=http://www.w3.org/;World
 Wide Web Consortium/a specifications and should display properly on
 the vast majority of Web browsers on the market today./p
 
 pIf you see rendering problems please contact the creator of the
 browser that you used, and tell them you will discontinue use of their
 product until it meets specifications./p
   /div
 ![endif]--
 
 You may style the note above as you wish, for instance, like this:
 
   #ienote {border: thick red outset;
background-color:yellow;
color:red;
padding:0.5em;
clear:both;}
   #ienote p.warning {font-weight:bold;
  font-size:larger;
  text-align:center;}
 
 I tried using blink, but IE apparently doesn't support it -- even as a
 style, which IS in CSS1. So it's useless in this context.
 

Aha.  That works.

-- 
David E. Ross
http://www.rossde.com/

Go to Mozdev at http://www.mozdev.org/ for quick access to
extensions for Firefox, Thunderbird, SeaMonkey, and other
Mozilla-related applications.  You can access Mozdev much
more quickly than you can Mozilla Add-Ons.
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Re: Yenc decoder

2010-02-21 Thread Rick Merrill

MCBastos wrote:

Interviewed by CNN on 20/2/2010 15:49, Juiceman told the world:

Im wondering why Seamonky has never had a yEnc decoder built into the
program? Also why people post yEnc pictures? Does yEnc encoded pictures
save that much space or bandwidth?


Well, the Mozilla project is all for following (and fostering)
standards. The problem is that yEnc is not a recognized standard -- and
besides, it has serious design flaws. And you should think twice about
implementing/endorsing a spec that *its own author* criticizes...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/YEnc
http://www.faerber.muc.de/temp/20020304-yenc-harmful.html



Only advantage of yenc is that it can break up a posting into several 
parts and the user can put them together again.



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Re: Weird font behavior in email replies

2010-02-21 Thread Rick Merrill

Phillip Jones wrote:

William Greenwood wrote:

When replying to an email, the reply begins with my chosen default font
(Comic Sans MS). But if while typing I go back to correct something,
when I return to where I left off in the email, the font becomes smaller
and the font identification displayed in the email automatically changes
to Variable Width. I'm using 2.0.3, but the problem has plagued me
over the last few versions. How can I correct the problem?

I've noticed this behavior since switching to to SM2 and using the HTML
editor.

The type is always smaller than it supposed to be. I never had that
problem in SM1.x.x



I often see that problem when editing email that is not pure text. The 
problem is that the embedded codes to change font, size, etc get wrapped 
or eaten at inopportune moments.


If it is really driving me nuts I will select-all (crtl-a) cut (ctrol-x)
and then paste without formatting!


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Re: Lots of content in empty mail folders...

2010-02-21 Thread Bernard Mercier

Monica a présenté l'énoncé suivant :

Daniel wrote:

Monica wrote:

Leonidas Jones wrote:

Monica wrote:

I have been looking in a couple of mail folders in my Profile using a
text editor, and I see a lot of (text) content in there even though the
folders are empty when I check them in the SM mail client. How can
this be?


You need to compact your folders.

Messages deleted in the SM UI are not really deleted, rather they are
removed from your view, and marked for deletion. Compacting the folders
accomplishes this deletion.

FileCompact Folders

Lee

Oh yes, I now remember this feature, it used to come up every so often
asking me if I want to compact folders. I haven´t seen that in a long
time though, probably disappeared with one of my updates of SM! How can
I get the option to get this reminding request back?


Monica, what do you have set at Edit-Preferences-Mail 
Newsgroups-Network Settings in the part labeled Disk Space? Maybe you
need a smaller number!

Daniel


I see I haven´t set that at all. What number would be considered default?

You decide yourself. But when ticked the default is displayed.

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new form manager is great

2010-02-21 Thread Rick Merrill

I really love the new sort of fill-in-the-blank technique.
It takes a little getting used to because at first all you see is the 
blank entry on the form. But as soon as you type the first letter the 
pull down list of choice appears.  This is great for managing both login 
usernames and other stuff.


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Re: Lots of content in empty mail folders...

2010-02-21 Thread Monica

Bernard Mercier wrote:

Monica a présenté l'énoncé suivant :

Daniel wrote:

Monica wrote:

Leonidas Jones wrote:

Monica wrote:

I have been looking in a couple of mail folders in my Profile using a
text editor, and I see a lot of (text) content in there even
though the
folders are empty when I check them in the SM mail client. How can
this be?


You need to compact your folders.

Messages deleted in the SM UI are not really deleted, rather they are
removed from your view, and marked for deletion. Compacting the
folders
accomplishes this deletion.

FileCompact Folders

Lee

Oh yes, I now remember this feature, it used to come up every so often
asking me if I want to compact folders. I haven´t seen that in a long
time though, probably disappeared with one of my updates of SM! How can
I get the option to get this reminding request back?


Monica, what do you have set at Edit-Preferences-Mail 
Newsgroups-Network Settings in the part labeled Disk Space? Maybe you
need a smaller number!

Daniel


I see I haven´t set that at all. What number would be considered default?

You decide yourself. But when ticked the default is displayed.


Ok, thanks!
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Re: Virus in mail folders

2010-02-21 Thread Monica

JAS wrote:

Monica wrote:

Daniel wrote:

Monica wrote:

Mark Hansen wrote:

On 2/20/2010 4:57 PM, Monica wrote:

Glen wrote:

Monica wrote:


snip


Yes, but you see in regards to the folders where the viruses are
said to
be, no messages what so ever show up there when I look at those
ordinary mail folders in the mail client. I can only see a lot of
messages in there when I open the folders in a text editor. Should I
move them from where I see them in text editor to a temporary mail
folder (through the text editor)?


Monica, when you delete a message from your mail inbox, it is not really
deleted, just some of the coding in the message header is changed, so
SeaMonkey knows not to display the message title.

To really delete the message, you should select File-Empty Trash and
then File-Compact files.

Try this and see if that gets rid of your virus.

Daniel

Thanks, that finally did the trick! Have to remember to compact
folders! I used to get reminders/requests if I would like to compact
folders, but I don´t see that any more. Does anyone know if it is a
setting somewhere?

Also remember if you have backed up SM with say Moz backup there could
be a infected email in it. It is of no danger beling compacted but you
still may get a reading from a virus scan.


Thanks, I´ve got to check my backups and do the same procedures with them.
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Re: Yenc decoder

2010-02-21 Thread »Q«
In news:ppadncogg-du4hzwnz2dnuvz_hbi4...@mozilla.org,
Rick Merrill rick0.merr...@gmail.nospam.com wrote:

 MCBastos wrote:
  Interviewed by CNN on 20/2/2010 15:49, Juiceman told the world:
  Im wondering why Seamonky has never had a yEnc decoder built into
  the program? Also why people post yEnc pictures? Does yEnc encoded
  pictures save that much space or bandwidth?
 
  Well, the Mozilla project is all for following (and fostering)
  standards. The problem is that yEnc is not a recognized standard --
  and besides, it has serious design flaws. And you should think
  twice about implementing/endorsing a spec that *its own author*
  criticizes...
 
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/YEnc
  http://www.faerber.muc.de/temp/20020304-yenc-harmful.html
 
 Only advantage of yenc is that it can break up a posting into several 
 parts and the user can put them together again.

No, that can be done with the MIME encodings as well.  The advantage of
yEncoding is the size/bandwidth saved.

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Re: Lots of content in empty mail folders...

2010-02-21 Thread Leonidas Jones

Monica wrote:

Bernard Mercier wrote:

Monica a présenté l'énoncé suivant :

Daniel wrote:

Monica wrote:

Leonidas Jones wrote:

Monica wrote:

I have been looking in a couple of mail folders in my Profile
using a
text editor, and I see a lot of (text) content in there even
though the
folders are empty when I check them in the SM mail client. How can
this be?


You need to compact your folders.

Messages deleted in the SM UI are not really deleted, rather they are
removed from your view, and marked for deletion. Compacting the
folders
accomplishes this deletion.

FileCompact Folders

Lee

Oh yes, I now remember this feature, it used to come up every so often
asking me if I want to compact folders. I haven´t seen that in a long
time though, probably disappeared with one of my updates of SM! How
can
I get the option to get this reminding request back?


Monica, what do you have set at Edit-Preferences-Mail 
Newsgroups-Network Settings in the part labeled Disk Space? Maybe
you
need a smaller number!

Daniel


I see I haven´t set that at all. What number would be considered
default?

You decide yourself. But when ticked the default is displayed.


Ok, thanks!


I leave mine set at 1000K.  If I recall correctly, the default was 300, 
ut I found that the nag was coming up way to often.  Tis works for me, 
may not for you.


You can also run it manually at any time via FileCompact Folders.

Lee
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Re: Yenc decoder

2010-02-21 Thread Ray_Net

Rick Merrill wrote:

MCBastos wrote:

Interviewed by CNN on 20/2/2010 15:49, Juiceman told the world:

Im wondering why Seamonky has never had a yEnc decoder built into the
program? Also why people post yEnc pictures? Does yEnc encoded pictures
save that much space or bandwidth?


Well, the Mozilla project is all for following (and fostering)
standards. The problem is that yEnc is not a recognized standard -- and
besides, it has serious design flaws. And you should think twice about
implementing/endorsing a spec that *its own author* criticizes...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/YEnc
http://www.faerber.muc.de/temp/20020304-yenc-harmful.html



Only advantage of yenc is that it can break up a posting into several
parts and the user can put them together again.


Not true ... My ISP did not permit me to have all the parts ... it's 
always at least one part missing !

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Re: Bad upgrade from 1.1.18 to 2.03

2010-02-21 Thread Robert Kaiser

cmcadams schrieb:

Robert Kaiser wrote:

cmcadams schrieb:

A question for the developers: In the installation there's a target
field, displaying the default target, with a Browse button beside it.
WHY is that button there if you already KNOW installing to an
alternative destination will likely fail?


It isn't likely to fail - UNLESS you install OVER an old SeaMonkey
version.

Robert Kaiser


Which it wasn't. And this is an ancient problem, as I discovered when
filing a bugzilla report. Migration doesn't work in certain
circumstances, period.


We know that it sometimes fails, we also know that those cases probably 
have no connection to the installation location, though.


And we got good data on one spaceific case of failure which we could 
narrow down to a crash and fix in 2.0.3 - if we get consistent data on 
where the failure happens, we can try and get it fixed.
Migrations fails if it's dawn and the weather is nice unfortuantely 
can't easily be narrowed down to a specific problem in our software. 
Unfortunately, many bug reports read somewhat like that.


Robert Kaiser
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Re: new form manager is great

2010-02-21 Thread Paul

Rick Merrill wrote:

I really love the new sort of fill-in-the-blank technique.
It takes a little getting used to because at first all you see is the 
blank entry on the form. But as soon as you type the first letter the 
pull down list of choice appears.  This is great for managing both login 
usernames and other stuff.


Can you tell if SM 2+ separates the names from the passwords?

SM 1+ would not do that.  It used to be all or nothing and
rendered SM 1+ useless for a secure multi user work environment.
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Re: Bad upgrade from 1.1.18 to 2.03

2010-02-21 Thread Robert Kaiser

cmcadams wrote:

Here's a link to the bug report:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=547523


That's exactly a Migrations fails if it's dawn and the weather is nice 
report, I don't expect any developer to be able to reproduce and 
investigate the problem based on what's in there.


The goal of a bug report is to get it fixed.
Due to that, please include the information you have that a developer 
can need to fix it. We know hundreds of cases where migration works, so 
even the summary is wrong.


Robert Kaiser
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Re: NBA.com home page's link header not working in SeaMonkey v2.0.2 Linux?

2010-02-21 Thread Ant
 I got a reply:

 From: NBA_Letters/NY/NBA NBA_Letters/NY/@nba.com
 To: ant
 Subject: Re: General Comments / Suggestions
 X-KeepSent: 122511B0:AF205FCE-852576C1:0075B9E0;
   type=4; name=$KeepSent
 X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 8.0.2 August 07, 2008
 Date: Fri, 5 Feb 2010 16:26:19 -0500
 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on NJNSMTP2/SERVER/NBA(Release
 8.0.2FP1|January 12, 2009) at
   02/05/2010 04:26:26 PM,
          Serialize complete at 02/05/2010 04:26:26 PM

 [-- Autoview using /usr/bin/htmlview '/tmp/muttHSgUoA' --]
     Dear Ant,

     Thank you for notifying us of your observations on NBA.com.

     Your comments and feedback help us improve all aspects of the NBA,
 and we
     thank you for your continued support.

     Sincerely,
     NBA Fan Relations

As I expected, no changes after a few weeks. :(
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Re: Bad upgrade from 1.1.18 to 2.03

2010-02-21 Thread Mark Hansen
On 2/21/2010 9:50 AM, cmcadams wrote:
 Mark Hansen wrote:
 On 2/20/2010 6:29 PM, cmcadams wrote:
 A question for the developers: In the installation there's a target
 field, displaying the default target, with a Browse button beside it.
 WHY is that button there if you already KNOW installing to an
 alternative destination will likely fail?

 Craig

 Who said installing to an alternate location will likely fail?
 
 I did.
 
 See generally:
 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=seamonkey+migration
 
 Specifically, I recall having to go through the same rigamarole 
 transferring from Mozilla to Seamonkey. Not a new problem.
 
 Why would they put a steering wheel in your car if steering the
 car into a tree could be fatal? ;-\
 
 Ask Toyota. Ask a meaningful question, get a meaningful answer.
 
 Craig

Sigh ... I tried.

Good luck.
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Problem with image size reset...

2010-02-21 Thread John Sipos




To Whom it Concerns,

 Building an HTML email with a resized image, if you go in
and make any modifications to the image (such as, space around the
photo, or a border, et cetera) it resets to the original size.
Earlier versions it did not do that. I have learned to live with the
minor bug, but it would probably be convenient for all if it would hold
to the manually selected proportional resize, unless the original size
button is manually invoked. I think it does it also in Composer.

 With cordial thanks for doing such incredibly fine work on this
entire software package. At the moment I am very strapped for dollars,
but trust, at my earliest convenience I will be making a meaningful
donation in support of your efforts.

John Sipos
Talk journalist
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Re: new form manager is great

2010-02-21 Thread Bill Davidsen

Rick Merrill wrote:

I really love the new sort of fill-in-the-blank technique.
It takes a little getting used to because at first all you see is the 
blank entry on the form. But as soon as you type the first letter the 
pull down list of choice appears.  This is great for managing both login 
usernames and other stuff.


Is this a joke? One of the most frequently mentioned missing features in SM 2 is 
a forms manager. What you have is a fields manager, which works on a per-field 
basis. So if I have a form with 50-60 things to fill in (I do) and several sets 
of values for a few of these fields, you get to go to each and every field, 
remembering every field that changes, and select.


Think an order form where you have six offices where things are sent and the 
recipient's name, address, phone, and billing info are SETS of values rather 
than unrelated alternate values for each field.


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Re: Bad upgrade from 1.1.18 to 2.03

2010-02-21 Thread Daniel

cmcadams wrote:

Robert Kaiser wrote:

cmcadams wrote:

Here's a link to the bug report:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=547523


That's exactly a Migrations fails if it's dawn and the weather is nice
report, I don't expect any developer to be able to reproduce and
investigate the problem based on what's in there.

The goal of a bug report is to get it fixed.
Due to that, please include the information you have that a developer
can need to fix it. We know hundreds of cases where migration works, so
even the summary is wrong.

Robert Kaiser


Nothing in the report is wrong. I supplied the circumstances and result.
I'm sorry I can't supply you with register dumps.

Given that I can't encompass all possible situations in my lone setup, I
think you've just said a fix won't be happening, except by accident.

So be it. I'm not the due-diligence sheriff.

Craig


Craig, looking at your bugzilla report, you specifally state at Step one 
that you un-install SM 1.1.18 before you install SM 2. What happens if 
you install SM 2 whilst you still have SM 1.1.18 installed??


Daniel
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Re: Goodbye Seamonkey

2010-02-21 Thread Daniel

Daniel wrote:

Jens Hatlak wrote:

Daniel wrote:

Several times, over the years, I have suggested that there *SHOULD*
be a clickable link as part of the Mail Newsgroup splash screen,
but, sadly, I'm still waiting.

The alteration would have to happen in
chrome://messenger/content/start.xhtml but I don't know how to do
it.


If you ask how to do it for yourself only:
1. Go to your SeaMonkey install directory
2. Open chrome/messenger.jar with a ZIP program (e.g. 7-Zip)
3. Edit content/messenger/start.xhtml
(
4. Open chrome/en-US.jar with a ZIP program
5. Edit en-US/messenger/start.dtd
)
Your changes will be overwritten whenever you update SM.

If you ask how to do it for everyone:
1. File a
bughttps://bugzilla.mozilla.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=SeaMonkey
2. Describe exactly what you propose
3. Find someone to implement it
4. Get the module owner (Karsten) to accept it

HTH

Jens



Yes, Jens, you are right, I should put it in through Bugzilla.and if
I can remember my password, I will!!

Daniel


RFE finally entered, see, and vote for, bug 547633

Daniel
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Re: Bad upgrade from 1.1.18 to 2.03

2010-02-21 Thread cmcadams

Daniel wrote:

cmcadams wrote:

Robert Kaiser wrote:

cmcadams wrote:

Here's a link to the bug report:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=547523


That's exactly a Migrations fails if it's dawn and the weather is nice
report, I don't expect any developer to be able to reproduce and
investigate the problem based on what's in there.

The goal of a bug report is to get it fixed.
Due to that, please include the information you have that a developer
can need to fix it. We know hundreds of cases where migration works, so
even the summary is wrong.

Robert Kaiser


Nothing in the report is wrong. I supplied the circumstances and result.
I'm sorry I can't supply you with register dumps.

Given that I can't encompass all possible situations in my lone setup, I
think you've just said a fix won't be happening, except by accident.

So be it. I'm not the due-diligence sheriff.

Craig


Craig, looking at your bugzilla report, you specifally state at Step one
that you un-install SM 1.1.18 before you install SM 2. What happens if
you install SM 2 whilst you still have SM 1.1.18 installed??

Daniel


No, because the best opinion I could find before installing 2.03 was 
not to. It's something to try. I also see what Robert was saying...and 
it may pay me to experiment, trying out different install targets, and 
whatever else I can vary along the way. What I find may even be of use 
to the developers. :)


My major problem is that my C: partition is pared down so much (for 
the sake of fast partition backups, as I mentioned far, far above 
somewhere) it's problematic installing Seamonkey to the default 
location. And there's an extended partition sitting on top of C:, 
complicating things a tad more.


Might be a few days. Fun time is done for this weekend.

Craig
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your destorying my computer

2010-02-21 Thread do_you_wanna2001
your updates have ruined my firefox 3.6 browser, and now i cant get
any sound out of your site on yahoo music for some reason it mutes it
constantly. all that because of security updates? you ever think of
saving your work and then testing it first?
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Re: new form manager is great

2010-02-21 Thread Chris Ilias

On 10-02-21 8:32 PM, Bill Davidsen wrote:

Rick Merrill wrote:

I really love the new sort of fill-in-the-blank technique.
It takes a little getting used to because at first all you see is the
blank entry on the form. But as soon as you type the first letter the
pull down list of choice appears. This is great for managing both
login usernames and other stuff.


Is this a joke?


Of course not. :-) I don't think you believe that all users have the 
same opinion on every feature.

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Mozilla to Seamonkey question

2010-02-21 Thread Henry

Dell 2.8GHz computer with 3G RAM running WinXP Pro SP2.

I'm still using Mozilla 1.7.8.  Should I upgrade to 1.1.18 before I go 
to 2.03?  What problems will I have doing this? Can I just run the 
set-up program for 2.03 and it will find my Mozilla profile?


Thanks

Henry
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