Re: Interesting... Neither FF or SM is allowed on this Amtrak page
PhillipJones wrote: NoOp wrote: Can anyone else confirm: https://careers.amtrak.com/webdynpro/resources/sap.com/tc~wd~dispwda/global/noclient.htm Receive: Sorry, your browser/program is not supported by Web Dynpro! HTML HEAD TITLEWeb Dynpro client inspection/TITLE /HEAD BODY style=font-family:Arial; H2 Sorry, your browser/program is not supported by Web Dynpro! /H2 /BODY /HTML Start here: https://careers.amtrak.com/irj/portal/anonymous and select 'Register Now' in the left hand login box. Interesting part is that I was thinking of applying for an IT position with Amtrak. Their 'Search for Jobs' sucks... it's an SAP wide page view so you need to horizontaly scroll to view the open positions. Tried with FF 5.0 and SM 2.2 Final. Its web-kit compatible only, Safari, iCab, OmniWeb work Chrome works FF 3, 4, 5 Camino, SeaMonkey, Aurora anything associate with Gecko Doesn't. As I noted above, Phillip, I got in with SM 2.0.14. Others have identified it may be related to Gecko, works with Gecko 1.9.1.19 but doesn't work for Gecko 2.x.x.x! -- Daniel ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: tabs in SeaMonkey 2.2 browser poorly designed
JohnQPublic wrote: Sorry to say it, but the tabs in SeaMonkey 2.2 browser just aren't up to snuff... The active tab needs to be highlighted with a different color, so it's easy to see. Firefox accomplishes this by making the active tab lighter, which works fine. If there's any difference in SeaMonkey, I can't see it with my CRT monitor. I realize that LCD monitors render grayscales better, but SeaMonkey should take that into consideration. I've looked through the settings and can't find any way to fix this, so presume it's built-in(?). Apparently the only way to close a tab in SeaMonkey with the mouse is to click the little x at the rightside of the tab bar, but it's too small to hit easily quickly with the mouse pointer. Also that's much less satisfactory than having an x on each tab. Without an x on each tab, it's necessary to first select a tab then click the x. Very cumbersome. Or am I overlooking something obvious as a newbie? Yes, I'm aware of the keyboard shortcuts affecting tabs, but I normally use a mouse for these operations. Try a different theme? SeaMonkey Modern 2.2 makes the active tab lighter than the inactive tabs. Right clicking brings up a menu that has Close Tab right at the top. I see no tiny x in the modern theme. YMMV with SM portable. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Interesting... Neither FF or SM is allowed on this Amtrak page
On 11.07.2011 07:30, Daniel wrote: --- Original Message --- PhillipJones wrote: NoOp wrote: Can anyone else confirm: https://careers.amtrak.com/webdynpro/resources/sap.com/tc~wd~dispwda/global/noclient.htm Receive: Sorry, your browser/program is not supported by Web Dynpro! HTML HEAD TITLEWeb Dynpro client inspection/TITLE /HEAD BODY style=font-family:Arial; H2 Sorry, your browser/program is not supported by Web Dynpro! /H2 /BODY /HTML Start here: https://careers.amtrak.com/irj/portal/anonymous and select 'Register Now' in the left hand login box. Interesting part is that I was thinking of applying for an IT position with Amtrak. Their 'Search for Jobs' sucks... it's an SAP wide page view so you need to horizontaly scroll to view the open positions. Tried with FF 5.0 and SM 2.2 Final. Its web-kit compatible only, Safari, iCab, OmniWeb work Chrome works FF 3, 4, 5 Camino, SeaMonkey, Aurora anything associate with Gecko Doesn't. As I noted above, Phillip, I got in with SM 2.0.14. Others have identified it may be related to Gecko, works with Gecko 1.9.1.19 but doesn't work for Gecko 2.x.x.x! You can get the main page ok but can you register? -- *Jay Garcia - Netscape Champion* www.ufaq.org Netscape - Firefox - SeaMonkey - Thunderbird ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: tabs in SeaMonkey 2.2 browser poorly designed
On 11.07.2011 07:34, JohnQPublic wrote:
--- Original Message ---
Sorry to say it, but the tabs in SeaMonkey 2.2 browser just aren't up to
snuff...
The active tab needs to be highlighted with a different color, so it's easy
to see. Firefox accomplishes this by making the active tab lighter, which
works fine. If there's any difference in SeaMonkey, I can't see it with my
CRT monitor. I realize that LCD monitors render grayscales better, but
SeaMonkey should take that into consideration. I've looked through the
settings and can't find any way to fix this, so presume it's built-in(?).
Apparently the only way to close a tab in SeaMonkey with the mouse is to
click the little x at the rightside of the tab bar, but it's too small to
hit easily quickly with the mouse pointer. Also that's much less
satisfactory than having an x on each tab. Without an x on each tab, it's
necessary to first select a tab then click the x. Very cumbersome. Or am I
overlooking something obvious as a newbie? Yes, I'm aware of the keyboard
shortcuts affecting tabs, but I normally use a mouse for these operations.
Add to your userChrome.css:
.tabbrowser-tab[selected=true] hbox,
.tabbrowser-tab[selected=true] .tab-close-button {
background-color: #88 !important;
color: #fff !important;
}
.tabbrowser-tab[selected=true]:hover hbox,
.tabbrowser-tab[selected=true]:hover .tab-close-button {
background-color: #BB !important;
color: #fff !important;
}
This will hilite the active tab to blue. Dunno about making the X any
larger.
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Re: SM 2.2 and Extensions
Interviewed by CNN on 11/07/2011 03:53, sean nathan bean told the world: Justin Wood (Callek) sent me the following:: On 7/10/2011 8:34 PM, David E. Ross wrote: I just installed SM 2.2 and found more extensions broken merely by the version number. With four profiles and four broken extensions in each, it took me about an hour to tweak them all. Installing the Extension Compatability Reporter [https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/addon/add-on-compatibility-reporter/] will actually try hard to keep all the extensions enabled, but you also have the issue that any actual application changes can still cause extensions to break/break-the-app. But it lets you override this stuff without needing to manually change any files. goint to the addon's page with: Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:2.0.1) Gecko/20110608 Firefox/4.0.1 SeaMonkey/2.1 the addon's page tells me: This add-on requires Firefox 8.0a1. You are currently using Firefox 2.1. 8.0a1? ... i also see no place in about:config to change user agent... is there a string i need to add? i feel like i'm losing my mind here... Try using the Seamonkey download page instead of the Firefox one: https://addons.mozilla.org/seamonkey/addon/add-on-compatibility-reporter/ -- MCBastos This message has been protected with the 2ROT13 algorithm. Unauthorized use will be prosecuted under the DMCA. -=-=- ... Sent from my Total Lack of Social Skills. *Added by TagZilla 0.066.2 running on Seamonkey 2.1 * Get it at http://xsidebar.mozdev.org/modifiedmailnews.html#tagzilla ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Interesting... Neither FF or SM is allowed on this Amtrak page
NoOp wrote: Can anyone else confirm: https://careers.amtrak.com/webdynpro/resources/sap.com/tc~wd~dispwda/global/noclient.htm Receive: Sorry, your browser/program is not supported by Web Dynpro! HTML HEAD TITLEWeb Dynpro client inspection/TITLE /HEAD BODY style=font-family:Arial; H2 Sorry, your browser/program is not supported by Web Dynpro! /H2 /BODY /HTML Start here: https://careers.amtrak.com/irj/portal/anonymous and select 'Register Now' in the left hand login box. Interesting part is that I was thinking of applying for an IT position with Amtrak. Their 'Search for Jobs' sucks... it's an SAP wide page view so you need to horizontaly scroll to view the open positions. Tried with FF 5.0 and SM 2.2 Final. May be a Windows issue, WFM in 2.0.14/Linux-x86 -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com We are not out of the woods yet, but we know the direction and have taken the first step. The steps are many, but finite in number, and if we persevere we will reach our destination. -me, 2010 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Interesting... Neither FF or SM is allowed on this Amtrak page
Jay Garcia wrote: On 11.07.2011 07:30, Daniel wrote: --- Original Message --- PhillipJones wrote: NoOp wrote: Can anyone else confirm: https://careers.amtrak.com/webdynpro/resources/sap.com/tc~wd~dispwda/global/noclient.htm Receive: Sorry, your browser/program is not supported by Web Dynpro! HTML HEAD TITLEWeb Dynpro client inspection/TITLE /HEAD BODY style=font-family:Arial; H2 Sorry, your browser/program is not supported by Web Dynpro! /H2 /BODY /HTML Start here: https://careers.amtrak.com/irj/portal/anonymous and select 'Register Now' in the left hand login box. Interesting part is that I was thinking of applying for an IT position with Amtrak. Their 'Search for Jobs' sucks... it's an SAP wide page view so you need to horizontaly scroll to view the open positions. Tried with FF 5.0 and SM 2.2 Final. Its web-kit compatible only, Safari, iCab, OmniWeb work Chrome works FF 3, 4, 5 Camino, SeaMonkey, Aurora anything associate with Gecko Doesn't. As I noted above, Phillip, I got in with SM 2.0.14. Others have identified it may be related to Gecko, works with Gecko 1.9.1.19 but doesn't work for Gecko 2.x.x.x! You can get the main page ok but can you register? Tried it with my SM 2.0.14 and it went to the registration page just fine. I stopped there. I knew I was keep that old dinosaur around for a reason. :) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: tabs in SeaMonkey 2.2 browser poorly designed
JohnQPublic wrote: Sorry to say it, but the tabs in SeaMonkey 2.2 browser just aren't up to snuff... The active tab needs to be highlighted with a different color, so it's easy to see. Firefox accomplishes this by making the active tab lighter, which works fine. If there's any difference in SeaMonkey, I can't see it with my CRT monitor. I realize that LCD monitors render grayscales better, but SeaMonkey should take that into consideration. I've looked through the settings and can't find any way to fix this, so presume it's built-in(?). On my screen, the currently selected tab looks significantly lighter than the non-selected tabs. Additionally, if you hover your mouse over the tabs, small images are displayed of the non-selected tab screens. Nothing is displayed when hovering over the currently selected tab, because it is currently selected. HTH Daniel Apparently the only way to close a tab in SeaMonkey with the mouse is to click the little x at the rightside of the tab bar, but it's too small to hit easily quickly with the mouse pointer. Also that's much less satisfactory than having an x on each tab. Without an x on each tab, it's necessary to first select a tab then click the x. Very cumbersome. Or am I overlooking something obvious as a newbie? Yes, I'm aware of the keyboard shortcuts affecting tabs, but I normally use a mouse for these operations. -- Daniel with just XXX messages to read in moz.general ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Interesting... Neither FF or SM is allowed on this Amtrak page
Jay Garcia wrote: On 11.07.2011 07:30, Daniel wrote: --- Original Message --- PhillipJones wrote: NoOp wrote: Can anyone else confirm: https://careers.amtrak.com/webdynpro/resources/sap.com/tc~wd~dispwda/global/noclient.htm Receive: Sorry, your browser/program is not supported by Web Dynpro! HTML HEAD TITLEWeb Dynpro client inspection/TITLE /HEAD BODY style=font-family:Arial; H2 Sorry, your browser/program is not supported by Web Dynpro! /H2 /BODY /HTML Start here: https://careers.amtrak.com/irj/portal/anonymous and select 'Register Now' in the left hand login box. Interesting part is that I was thinking of applying for an IT position with Amtrak. Their 'Search for Jobs' sucks... it's an SAP wide page view so you need to horizontaly scroll to view the open positions. Tried with FF 5.0 and SM 2.2 Final. Its web-kit compatible only, Safari, iCab, OmniWeb work Chrome works FF 3, 4, 5 Camino, SeaMonkey, Aurora anything associate with Gecko Doesn't. As I noted above, Phillip, I got in with SM 2.0.14. Others have identified it may be related to Gecko, works with Gecko 1.9.1.19 but doesn't work for Gecko 2.x.x.x! You can get the main page ok but can you register? Didn't try, just got to the page that NoOp was not being able to get to https://careers.amtrak.com/webdynpro/dispatcher/amtrak.com/hcm~erec~selfreg/SelfRegApp?redirectURL=%2Firj%2Fportal%2Fanonymous Daniel -- Daniel with just XXX messages to read in moz.general ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Interesting... Neither FF or SM is allowed on this Amtrak page
Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote: Stanimir Stamenkov wrote: They don't seem to accept anything above rv:1.9.2.* - quite broken sniffing, IMO. All sniffing is broken, IMO. If you are willing to do without any feature introduced after MOSAIC, or Netscape, or IE6, or wherever you draw you line, that's fine. If you want people to read your page you can use sniffinf to show obsolete browsers a baby page, which has the information in ugly format, while keeping things pretty (scaled sanely to display size) for modern browsers. -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com We are not out of the woods yet, but we know the direction and have taken the first step. The steps are many, but finite in number, and if we persevere we will reach our destination. -me, 2010 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Interesting... Neither FF or SM is allowed on this Amtrak page
On 11.07.2011 08:11, Daniel wrote: --- Original Message --- Jay Garcia wrote: On 11.07.2011 07:30, Daniel wrote: --- Original Message --- PhillipJones wrote: NoOp wrote: Can anyone else confirm: https://careers.amtrak.com/webdynpro/resources/sap.com/tc~wd~dispwda/global/noclient.htm Receive: Sorry, your browser/program is not supported by Web Dynpro! HTML HEAD TITLEWeb Dynpro client inspection/TITLE /HEAD BODY style=font-family:Arial; H2 Sorry, your browser/program is not supported by Web Dynpro! /H2 /BODY /HTML Start here: https://careers.amtrak.com/irj/portal/anonymous and select 'Register Now' in the left hand login box. Interesting part is that I was thinking of applying for an IT position with Amtrak. Their 'Search for Jobs' sucks... it's an SAP wide page view so you need to horizontaly scroll to view the open positions. Tried with FF 5.0 and SM 2.2 Final. Its web-kit compatible only, Safari, iCab, OmniWeb work Chrome works FF 3, 4, 5 Camino, SeaMonkey, Aurora anything associate with Gecko Doesn't. As I noted above, Phillip, I got in with SM 2.0.14. Others have identified it may be related to Gecko, works with Gecko 1.9.1.19 but doesn't work for Gecko 2.x.x.x! You can get the main page ok but can you register? Didn't try, just got to the page that NoOp was not being able to get to https://careers.amtrak.com/webdynpro/dispatcher/amtrak.com/hcm~erec~selfreg/SelfRegApp?redirectURL=%2Firj%2Fportal%2Fanonymous Daniel That's the registration page that is the topic of this discussion. Everybody can open/display the home page. It's when you attempt to register is the problem. -- *Jay Garcia - Netscape Champion* www.ufaq.org Netscape - Firefox - SeaMonkey - Thunderbird ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Interesting... Neither FF or SM is allowed on this Amtrak page
On 11.07.2011 08:26, Bill Davidsen wrote: --- Original Message --- Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote: Stanimir Stamenkov wrote: They don't seem to accept anything above rv:1.9.2.* - quite broken sniffing, IMO. All sniffing is broken, IMO. If you are willing to do without any feature introduced after MOSAIC, or Netscape, or IE6, or wherever you draw you line, that's fine. If you want people to read your page you can use sniffinf to show obsolete browsers a baby page, which has the information in ugly format, while keeping things pretty (scaled sanely to display size) for modern browsers. If you want the most amount of users to visit your commercial site then make it cross-browser-compatible without all the fancy stuff and dancing elves. What Amtrak is doing is unacceptable. ;-) -- *Jay Garcia - Netscape Champion* www.ufaq.org Netscape - Firefox - SeaMonkey - Thunderbird ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: tabs in SeaMonkey 2.2 browser poorly designed
On 11.07.2011 08:19, Daniel wrote: --- Original Message --- JohnQPublic wrote: Sorry to say it, but the tabs in SeaMonkey 2.2 browser just aren't up to snuff... The active tab needs to be highlighted with a different color, so it's easy to see. Firefox accomplishes this by making the active tab lighter, which works fine. If there's any difference in SeaMonkey, I can't see it with my CRT monitor. I realize that LCD monitors render grayscales better, but SeaMonkey should take that into consideration. I've looked through the settings and can't find any way to fix this, so presume it's built-in(?). On my screen, the currently selected tab looks significantly lighter than the non-selected tabs. Additionally, if you hover your mouse over the tabs, small images are displayed of the non-selected tab screens. Nothing is displayed when hovering over the currently selected tab, because it is currently selected. HTH Daniel Apparently the only way to close a tab in SeaMonkey with the mouse is to click the little x at the rightside of the tab bar, but it's too small to hit easily quickly with the mouse pointer. Also that's much less satisfactory than having an x on each tab. Without an x on each tab, it's necessary to first select a tab then click the x. Very cumbersome. Or am I overlooking something obvious as a newbie? Yes, I'm aware of the keyboard shortcuts affecting tabs, but I normally use a mouse for these operations. Please bottom post, thanks. As I get older, I have somewhat the same problems - being able to differentiate active tabs as well as other UI functionality. Making the active tab a different color is far better than just making it lighter, IMHO of course. Same goes for other buttons and such where opposing colors can make all the difference. -- *Jay Garcia - Netscape Champion* www.ufaq.org Netscape - Firefox - SeaMonkey - Thunderbird ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Interesting... Neither FF or SM is allowed on this Amtrak page
Bill Davidsen wrote: Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote: Stanimir Stamenkov wrote: They don't seem to accept anything above rv:1.9.2.* - quite broken sniffing, IMO. All sniffing is broken, IMO. If you are willing to do without any feature introduced after MOSAIC, or Netscape, or IE6, or wherever you draw you line, that's fine. If you want people to read your page you can use sniffinf to show obsolete browsers a baby page, which has the information in ugly format, while keeping things pretty (scaled sanely to display size) for modern browsers. I think you've missed my point. Most all need for sniffing is due to the uninformed web authors who aren't aware of other browsers. In nearly all cases, if these authors would write error-free pages/sites, there would be no need for sniffing at all. http://validator.w3.org/ http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/ It has nothing to do with feature introduced after MOSAIC. Regarding keeping things pretty for modern browsers -- do you think that the latest SeaMonkey is not a modern browser? -- -bts -This post best viewed with Internet Explorer 4.0 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: tabs in SeaMonkey 2.2 browser poorly designed
JohnQPublic wrote: Sorry to say it, but the tabs in SeaMonkey 2.2 browser just aren't up to snuff... The active tab needs to be highlighted with a different color, so it's easy to see. Firefox accomplishes this by making the active tab lighter, which works fine. If there's any difference in SeaMonkey, I can't see it with my CRT monitor. I realize that LCD monitors render grayscales better, but SeaMonkey should take that into consideration. I've looked through the settings and can't find any way to fix this, so presume it's built-in(?). Apparently the only way to close a tab in SeaMonkey with the mouse is to click the little x at the rightside of the tab bar, but it's too small to hit easily quickly with the mouse pointer. Also that's much less satisfactory than having an x on each tab. Without an x on each tab, it's necessary to first select a tab then click the x. Very cumbersome. Or am I overlooking something obvious as a newbie? Yes, I'm aware of the keyboard shortcuts affecting tabs, but I normally use a mouse for these operations. I also find that's it's become nearly impossible to identify the active tab in SM 2.1. This is a pretty big problem to me -- I hope a solution will be forthcoming! OTOH, please keep the single x for closing tabs! It's one of the best features of SM, relative to IE and a few other browsers I occasionally use. If a user is having trouble locating a single x, imagine their trouble locating multiple x's on each tab! ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: places.sqlite and update from SM 2.0.x to 2.2
On Mon, 11 Jul 2011 01:26:48 -0500, Manuel Reimer wrote: Hello, for some reason a existing places.sqlite causes SM 2.2 to hang with 100% CPU if opened with my old SM 2.0 profile. In SM 2.0 this file didn't cause problems. I had to rename places.sqlite to start successfully into SM 2.2. Going from 2.0 to 2.2 would cause the places code to update the schema of the sqlite database (in a backward incompatible manner so you'd lose history going back to 2.0). So it might not be hanging but just busy doing some DDL on places.sqlite. Phil -- Philip Chee phi...@aleytys.pc.my, philip.c...@gmail.com http://flashblock.mozdev.org/ http://xsidebar.mozdev.org Guard us from the she-wolf and the wolf, and guard us from the thief, oh Night, and so be good for us to pass. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Corrupt file
I noticed a file named places.sqlite.corrupt. Can this be safely deleted? It is much larger than the places.sqlite file. -- Gerald Ross Cochran, GA I'm not easy, but I can be tricked. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: tabs in SeaMonkey 2.2 browser poorly designed
Jay Garcia wrote:
On 11.07.2011 07:34, JohnQPublic wrote:
--- Original Message ---
Sorry to say it, but the tabs in SeaMonkey 2.2 browser just aren't up to
snuff...
The active tab needs to be highlighted with a different color, so it's easy
to see. Firefox accomplishes this by making the active tab lighter, which
works fine. If there's any difference in SeaMonkey, I can't see it with my
CRT monitor. I realize that LCD monitors render grayscales better, but
SeaMonkey should take that into consideration. I've looked through the
settings and can't find any way to fix this, so presume it's built-in(?).
Apparently the only way to close a tab in SeaMonkey with the mouse is to
click the little x at the rightside of the tab bar, but it's too small to
hit easily quickly with the mouse pointer. Also that's much less
satisfactory than having an x on each tab. Without an x on each tab, it's
necessary to first select a tab then click the x. Very cumbersome. Or am I
overlooking something obvious as a newbie? Yes, I'm aware of the keyboard
shortcuts affecting tabs, but I normally use a mouse for these operations.
Add to your userChrome.css:
.tabbrowser-tab[selected=true] hbox,
.tabbrowser-tab[selected=true] .tab-close-button {
background-color: #88 !important;
color: #fff !important;
}
.tabbrowser-tab[selected=true]:hover hbox,
.tabbrowser-tab[selected=true]:hover .tab-close-button {
background-color: #BB !important;
color: #fff !important;
}
This will hilite the active tab to blue. Dunno about making the X any
larger.
I tried this on 2.0.14 and it works a treat!
It's nice to have experts around. Thanks Jay!
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Re: top of SeaMonkey browser screen
Jay Garcia j...@jaynospamgarcia.com wrote in message
news:2_ydnb93_6c2ayftnz2dnuvz_oqdn...@mozilla.org...
On 11.07.2011 01:39, JohnQPublic wrote:
--- Original Message ---
Here's how the top of my SeaMonkey 2.2 browser screen looks:
http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/6334/seamonkey.jpg
As you can see everything (all controls) is on a single toolbar, the Menu
Bar. That's exactly the way I want it, and it's very important to me! I
have
the same layout at top of browser screens in IE6, FF3.6.18, and
customized
FF5.
There's only a slight problem with the SeaMonkey layout. I would like to
drag the left side of the search window to the left slightly, to make it
a
little wider, but it won't resize. Putting a separator between the
address
window and search window doesn't help. My other browsers have this
drag/resize (sliding) capability. Is there any way to do it in SeaMonkey?
[General comments: I'm a newbie with SeaMonkey, still trying to get my
sea
legs under me. I like the looks and feel, and may consider adopting it as
my
default browser - partly because I'm not happy with the direction Firefox
is
taking. But I'll have to play around with the mail/news window for quite
awhile to see if my old OE can be replaced. I was pleasantly surprised
when
I opened the address book window all my OE contacts were imported
instantly.]
Thanks.
Add this to your userChrome.css:
/* Make the Search box flex wider */
#search-container, #searchbar {
width: 400px !important;
}
Change the 400px to whatever suits your needs.
Thanks, but I'm in over my head and am getting confused...
I found this reference and have read some of it:
http://www-archive.mozilla.org/unix/customizing.html
I'm familiar with .html but never did anything with .css
I can make a userChrome.css file with a text editor, but I can't figure out
where to put it. It's supposed to go into a chrome folder in my SeaMonkey
profile folder, but there is no chrome folder therein. So do I create one?
That's for my fully installed SeaMonkey, which is quite different from my
portable installed SeaMonkey. The latter includes an example userChrome.css
file, a chrome folder, etc., which are entirely absent in the full install
SeaMonkey.
It's like the fully installed SeaMonkey 2.2 is missing something. Maybe it's
detecting and using part of the portable installation profile. Maybe I need
to delete the portable installation...(?)
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Re: Corrupt file
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Re: Interesting... Neither FF or SM is allowed on this Amtrak page
Jay Garcia wrote: On 11.07.2011 08:11, Daniel wrote: Didn't try, just got to the page that NoOp was not being able to get to https://careers.amtrak.com/webdynpro/dispatcher/amtrak.com/hcm~erec~selfreg/SelfRegApp?redirectURL=%2Firj%2Fportal%2Fanonymous That's the registration page that is the topic of this discussion. Everybody can open/display the home page. It's when you attempt to register is the problem. I can open the registration page, too, with SM 2.0.14, but I haven't attempted to fill in the data and create an account. Is registering the sticking point, or do some people have trouble seeing the registration page? -- War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left. -- Paul B. Gallagher ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Interesting... Neither FF or SM is allowed on this Amtrak page
Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Jay Garcia wrote: On 11.07.2011 08:11, Daniel wrote: Didn't try, just got to the page that NoOp was not being able to get to https://careers.amtrak.com/webdynpro/dispatcher/amtrak.com/hcm~erec~selfreg/SelfRegApp?redirectURL=%2Firj%2Fportal%2Fanonymous That's the registration page that is the topic of this discussion. Everybody can open/display the home page. It's when you attempt to register is the problem. I can open the registration page, too, with SM 2.0.14, but I haven't attempted to fill in the data and create an account. Is registering the sticking point, or do some people have trouble seeing the registration page? The problem is with seeing the registration page. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Corrupt file
On 11.07.2011 10:30, WLS wrote: --- Original Message --- Gerald Ross wrote: I noticed a file named places.sqlite.corrupt. Can this be safely deleted? It is much larger than the places.sqlite file. Wondering the same, and what is places.sqlite-journal? Thanks! The file places.sqlite-journal is used as a temporary store of places.sqlite updates when Firefox is open. -- *Jay Garcia - Netscape Champion* www.ufaq.org Netscape - Firefox - SeaMonkey - Thunderbird ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: tabs in SeaMonkey 2.2 browser poorly designed
On 7/11/11 6:19 AM, Daniel wrote: JohnQPublic wrote: Sorry to say it, but the tabs in SeaMonkey 2.2 browser just aren't up to snuff... The active tab needs to be highlighted with a different color, so it's easy to see. Firefox accomplishes this by making the active tab lighter, which works fine. If there's any difference in SeaMonkey, I can't see it with my CRT monitor. I realize that LCD monitors render grayscales better, but SeaMonkey should take that into consideration. I've looked through the settings and can't find any way to fix this, so presume it's built-in(?). On my screen, the currently selected tab looks significantly lighter than the non-selected tabs. Additionally, if you hover your mouse over the tabs, small images are displayed of the non-selected tab screens. Nothing is displayed when hovering over the currently selected tab, because it is currently selected. HTH Daniel Apparently the only way to close a tab in SeaMonkey with the mouse is to click the little x at the rightside of the tab bar, but it's too small to hit easily quickly with the mouse pointer. Also that's much less satisfactory than having an x on each tab. Without an x on each tab, it's necessary to first select a tab then click the x. Very cumbersome. Or am I overlooking something obvious as a newbie? Yes, I'm aware of the keyboard shortcuts affecting tabs, but I normally use a mouse for these operations. I found the display of tooltips for the content of tabs to be @*!!##%% annoying. I set browser.tabs.tooltippreview.enable to false to disable that feature. -- David E. Ross http://www.rossde.com/ On occasion, I might filter and ignore all newsgroup messages posted through GoogleGroups via Google's G2/1.0 user agent because of spam from that source. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: tabs in SeaMonkey 2.2 browser poorly designed
On 7/11/11 5:34 AM, JohnQPublic wrote: Sorry to say it, but the tabs in SeaMonkey 2.2 browser just aren't up to snuff... The active tab needs to be highlighted with a different color, so it's easy to see. Firefox accomplishes this by making the active tab lighter, which works fine. If there's any difference in SeaMonkey, I can't see it with my CRT monitor. I realize that LCD monitors render grayscales better, but SeaMonkey should take that into consideration. I've looked through the settings and can't find any way to fix this, so presume it's built-in(?). Apparently the only way to close a tab in SeaMonkey with the mouse is to click the little x at the rightside of the tab bar, but it's too small to hit easily quickly with the mouse pointer. Also that's much less satisfactory than having an x on each tab. Without an x on each tab, it's necessary to first select a tab then click the x. Very cumbersome. Or am I overlooking something obvious as a newbie? Yes, I'm aware of the keyboard shortcuts affecting tabs, but I normally use a mouse for these operations. This is bug #657275 at https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=657275. -- David E. Ross http://www.rossde.com/ On occasion, I might filter and ignore all newsgroup messages posted through GoogleGroups via Google's G2/1.0 user agent because of spam from that source. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: top of SeaMonkey browser screen
On 11.07.2011 10:28, JohnQPublic wrote:
--- Original Message ---
Jay Garcia j...@jaynospamgarcia.com wrote in message
news:2_ydnb93_6c2ayftnz2dnuvz_oqdn...@mozilla.org...
On 11.07.2011 01:39, JohnQPublic wrote:
--- Original Message ---
Here's how the top of my SeaMonkey 2.2 browser screen looks:
http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/6334/seamonkey.jpg
As you can see everything (all controls) is on a single toolbar, the Menu
Bar. That's exactly the way I want it, and it's very important to me! I
have
the same layout at top of browser screens in IE6, FF3.6.18, and
customized
FF5.
There's only a slight problem with the SeaMonkey layout. I would like to
drag the left side of the search window to the left slightly, to make it
a
little wider, but it won't resize. Putting a separator between the
address
window and search window doesn't help. My other browsers have this
drag/resize (sliding) capability. Is there any way to do it in SeaMonkey?
[General comments: I'm a newbie with SeaMonkey, still trying to get my
sea
legs under me. I like the looks and feel, and may consider adopting it as
my
default browser - partly because I'm not happy with the direction Firefox
is
taking. But I'll have to play around with the mail/news window for quite
awhile to see if my old OE can be replaced. I was pleasantly surprised
when
I opened the address book window all my OE contacts were imported
instantly.]
Thanks.
Add this to your userChrome.css:
/* Make the Search box flex wider */
#search-container, #searchbar {
width: 400px !important;
}
Change the 400px to whatever suits your needs.
Thanks, but I'm in over my head and am getting confused...
I found this reference and have read some of it:
http://www-archive.mozilla.org/unix/customizing.html
I'm familiar with .html but never did anything with .css
I can make a userChrome.css file with a text editor, but I can't figure out
where to put it. It's supposed to go into a chrome folder in my SeaMonkey
profile folder, but there is no chrome folder therein. So do I create one?
That's for my fully installed SeaMonkey, which is quite different from my
portable installed SeaMonkey. The latter includes an example userChrome.css
file, a chrome folder, etc., which are entirely absent in the full install
SeaMonkey.
It's like the fully installed SeaMonkey 2.2 is missing something. Maybe it's
detecting and using part of the portable installation profile. Maybe I need
to delete the portable installation...(?)
You should already have the userChrome.css file, located in:
C:\Documents and Settings\your username\Application
Data\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles\your profile.slt\chrome
Open the file and add the mod I provided by copy/paste
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Re: Interesting... Neither FF or SM is allowed on this Amtrak page
On 11.07.2011 10:34, Paul B. Gallagher wrote: --- Original Message --- Jay Garcia wrote: On 11.07.2011 08:11, Daniel wrote: Didn't try, just got to the page that NoOp was not being able to get to https://careers.amtrak.com/webdynpro/dispatcher/amtrak.com/hcm~erec~selfreg/SelfRegApp?redirectURL=%2Firj%2Fportal%2Fanonymous That's the registration page that is the topic of this discussion. Everybody can open/display the home page. It's when you attempt to register is the problem. I can open the registration page, too, with SM 2.0.14, but I haven't attempted to fill in the data and create an account. Is registering the sticking point, or do some people have trouble seeing the registration page? Users running SM 2.1+ and Firefox 5+ are the ones getting the error page. -- *Jay Garcia - Netscape Champion* www.ufaq.org Netscape - Firefox - SeaMonkey - Thunderbird ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: tabs in SeaMonkey 2.2 browser poorly designed
On 11.07.2011 10:09, Gerald Ross wrote:
--- Original Message ---
Jay Garcia wrote:
On 11.07.2011 07:34, JohnQPublic wrote:
--- Original Message ---
Sorry to say it, but the tabs in SeaMonkey 2.2 browser just aren't
up to
snuff...
The active tab needs to be highlighted with a different color, so
it's easy
to see. Firefox accomplishes this by making the active tab lighter,
which
works fine. If there's any difference in SeaMonkey, I can't see it
with my
CRT monitor. I realize that LCD monitors render grayscales better, but
SeaMonkey should take that into consideration. I've looked through the
settings and can't find any way to fix this, so presume it's
built-in(?).
Apparently the only way to close a tab in SeaMonkey with the mouse
is to
click the little x at the rightside of the tab bar, but it's too
small to
hit easily quickly with the mouse pointer. Also that's much less
satisfactory than having an x on each tab. Without an x on each tab,
it's
necessary to first select a tab then click the x. Very cumbersome.
Or am I
overlooking something obvious as a newbie? Yes, I'm aware of the
keyboard
shortcuts affecting tabs, but I normally use a mouse for these
operations.
Add to your userChrome.css:
.tabbrowser-tab[selected=true] hbox,
.tabbrowser-tab[selected=true] .tab-close-button {
background-color: #88 !important;
color: #fff !important;
}
.tabbrowser-tab[selected=true]:hover hbox,
.tabbrowser-tab[selected=true]:hover .tab-close-button {
background-color: #BB !important;
color: #fff !important;
}
This will hilite the active tab to blue. Dunno about making the X any
larger.
I tried this on 2.0.14 and it works a treat!
It's nice to have experts around. Thanks Jay!
Well not an expert but I DID know where to find it! 8-)
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Re: Interesting... Neither FF or SM is allowed on this Amtrak page
Jay Garcia wrote: On 11.07.2011 10:34, Paul B. Gallagher wrote: I can open the registration page, too, with SM 2.0.14, but I haven't attempted to fill in the data and create an account. Is registering the sticking point, or do some people have trouble seeing the registration page? Users running SM 2.1+ and Firefox 5+ are the ones getting the error page. Wow. Your browser is too advanced, please downgrade to a more primitive one. -- War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left. -- Paul B. Gallagher ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: top of SeaMonkey browser screen
Jay Garcia j...@jaynospamgarcia.com wrote in message
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On 11.07.2011 10:28, JohnQPublic wrote:
--- Original Message ---
Jay Garcia j...@jaynospamgarcia.com wrote in message
news:2_ydnb93_6c2ayftnz2dnuvz_oqdn...@mozilla.org...
On 11.07.2011 01:39, JohnQPublic wrote:
--- Original Message ---
Here's how the top of my SeaMonkey 2.2 browser screen looks:
http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/6334/seamonkey.jpg
As you can see everything (all controls) is on a single toolbar, the
Menu
Bar. That's exactly the way I want it, and it's very important to me! I
have
the same layout at top of browser screens in IE6, FF3.6.18, and
customized
FF5.
There's only a slight problem with the SeaMonkey layout. I would like
to
drag the left side of the search window to the left slightly, to make
it
a
little wider, but it won't resize. Putting a separator between the
address
window and search window doesn't help. My other browsers have this
drag/resize (sliding) capability. Is there any way to do it in
SeaMonkey?
[General comments: I'm a newbie with SeaMonkey, still trying to get my
sea
legs under me. I like the looks and feel, and may consider adopting it
as
my
default browser - partly because I'm not happy with the direction
Firefox
is
taking. But I'll have to play around with the mail/news window for
quite
awhile to see if my old OE can be replaced. I was pleasantly surprised
when
I opened the address book window all my OE contacts were imported
instantly.]
Thanks.
Add this to your userChrome.css:
/* Make the Search box flex wider */
#search-container, #searchbar {
width: 400px !important;
}
Change the 400px to whatever suits your needs.
Thanks, but I'm in over my head and am getting confused...
I found this reference and have read some of it:
http://www-archive.mozilla.org/unix/customizing.html
I'm familiar with .html but never did anything with .css
I can make a userChrome.css file with a text editor, but I can't figure
out
where to put it. It's supposed to go into a chrome folder in my SeaMonkey
profile folder, but there is no chrome folder therein. So do I create
one?
That's for my fully installed SeaMonkey, which is quite different from my
portable installed SeaMonkey. The latter includes an example
userChrome.css
file, a chrome folder, etc., which are entirely absent in the full
install
SeaMonkey.
It's like the fully installed SeaMonkey 2.2 is missing something. Maybe
it's
detecting and using part of the portable installation profile. Maybe I
need
to delete the portable installation...(?)
You should already have the userChrome.css file, located in:
C:\Documents and Settings\your username\Application
Data\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles\your profile.slt\chrome
Open the file and add the mod I provided by copy/paste
Nope, it's not there. There's no chrome folder for SeaMonkey 2.2 at that
location, nor anywhere else. Firefox 3.6.18 doesn't have one either. That's
for the full-installed versions. Like I said before, only my portable apps
have a chrome folder...
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Seamonkey 2.1/2.2 breaking Java plugin support on Centos 5 Linux?
I'm a long-time user of Seamonkey, from since it was called Mozilla. The recent 2.1 and 2.2 updates seem to have broken Java support on my Centos 5.5 box (32 bits) and I really can't figure this out. Seamonkey is installed in /usr/local. Starting from 2.1, the /usr/local/seamonkey/plugins directory is gone. As per the release notes, plugins are now managed on a per-user basis in $HOME/.mozilla/plugins So far, so good. I used to have a link in /usr/local/seamonkey/plugins pointing to /usr/local/jre1.6.0_12/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so (I install Sun's JREs in /usr/local too... it shows my BSD background I guess ) So I moved that link to $HOME/.mozilla/plugins but now about :plugins doesn't show any Java plugin detected. Worse, $HOME/.mozilla/seamonkey/profile name.default/pluginreg.dat shows that the plugin is rejected. It contains: [INVALID] /usr/local/jre1.6.0_12/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so:$ 1232187965000:$ I've tried with the new plugin found in /usr/local/jre1.6.0_12/lib/i386/libnpjp2.so too. Doesn't work either. I vaguely suspect that there might be a shared library issue with the newest Seamonkey binaries and Centos 5.5, but then every other plugin works OK, including Flash, Acrobat and all. So what's the issue with the Java plugin? There's no error when I start Seamonkey from a terminal window. Any help greatly appreciated, I must not be the only Seamonkey user on Centos 5.5, or so I hope Thanks for your time, _Alain_ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SEAMONKEY ADDRESS BOOK REALLY POOR NOW
Charly Brown wrote: 1) While drawing a group of e-mail addresses from one address book into a second one without loosing them in the first address book (duplicating into another address book) doesn't work any longer since quiet a number of versions, now even the dragging of e-mail addresses e.g. from the collected addresses or the personal address book into another address book doesn't work any longer at all. - Or do I have overlooked a secret (new?) setting possibility. I've noticed this too; but then after restarting SM, the dragged addresses show up in the address book ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey 2.1/2.2 breaking Java plugin support on Centos 5 Linux?
On 12/07/2011 01:32, Alain Alain wrote: I'm a long-time user of Seamonkey, from since it was called Mozilla. The recent 2.1 and 2.2 updates seem to have broken Java support on my Centos 5.5 box (32 bits) and I really can't figure this out. Seamonkey is installed in /usr/local. Starting from 2.1, the /usr/local/seamonkey/plugins directory is gone. As per the release notes, plugins are now managed on a per-user basis in $HOME/.mozilla/plugins So far, so good. I used to have a link in /usr/local/seamonkey/plugins pointing to /usr/local/jre1.6.0_12/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so (I install Sun's JREs in /usr/local too... it shows my BSD background I guess ) So I moved that link to $HOME/.mozilla/plugins but now about :plugins doesn't show any Java plugin detected. Worse, $HOME/.mozilla/seamonkey/profile name.default/pluginreg.dat shows that the plugin is rejected. It contains: [INVALID] /usr/local/jre1.6.0_12/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so:$ 1232187965000:$ I've tried with the new plugin found in /usr/local/jre1.6.0_12/lib/i386/libnpjp2.so too. Doesn't work either. I vaguely suspect that there might be a shared library issue with the newest Seamonkey binaries and Centos 5.5, but then every other plugin works OK, including Flash, Acrobat and all. So what's the issue with the Java plugin? There's no error when I start Seamonkey from a terminal window. Any help greatly appreciated, I must not be the only Seamonkey user on Centos 5.5, or so I hope Thanks for your time, _Alain_ Gecko dropped support for the OJI plugin. Don't know why the newer NPAPI plugin doesn't work. Perhaps it's a 32 vs 64 bit issue or a path issue. Phil -- Philip Chee phi...@aleytys.pc.my, philip.c...@gmail.com http://flashblock.mozdev.org/ http://xsidebar.mozdev.org Guard us from the she-wolf and the wolf, and guard us from the thief, oh Night, and so be good for us to pass. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey 2.1/2.2 breaking Java plugin support on Centos 5 Linux?
Alain Alain wrote: I'm a long-time user of Seamonkey, from since it was called Mozilla. The recent 2.1 and 2.2 updates seem to have broken Java support on my Centos 5.5 box (32 bits) and I really can't figure this out. Seamonkey is installed in /usr/local. Starting from 2.1, the /usr/local/seamonkey/plugins directory is gone. As per the release notes, plugins are now managed on a per-user basis in $HOME/.mozilla/plugins So far, so good. I used to have a link in /usr/local/seamonkey/plugins pointing to /usr/local/jre1.6.0_12/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so (I install Sun's JREs in /usr/local too... it shows my BSD background I guess ) So I moved that link to $HOME/.mozilla/plugins but now about :plugins doesn't show any Java plugin detected. Worse, $HOME/.mozilla/seamonkey/profile name.default/pluginreg.dat shows that the plugin is rejected. It contains: [INVALID] /usr/local/jre1.6.0_12/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so:$ 1232187965000:$ I've tried with the new plugin found in /usr/local/jre1.6.0_12/lib/i386/libnpjp2.so too. Doesn't work either. I vaguely suspect that there might be a shared library issue with the newest Seamonkey binaries and Centos 5.5, but then every other plugin works OK, including Flash, Acrobat and all. So what's the issue with the Java plugin? There's no error when I start Seamonkey from a terminal window. Any help greatly appreciated, I must not be the only Seamonkey user on Centos 5.5, or so I hope Thanks for your time, _Alain_ I found a way to easily create a link to the java plugin. Right-click on the file lbnpjp2.so and select create link, then I cut and past the link into .mozilla/plugins in my home folder on openSUSE. The only difference is I have jdk1.6.0_26 installed in home and the path is jdk1.6.0_26/jre/lib/i386/libnpjp.so At a loss if that is what you did and it's not working. If you can, you really should update to Java version 1.6.0_26. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Bug 665869 - PDF file with mime-type application/octet-stream is opened inline in SeaMonkey 2.x (Does this occur for other people too?)
On 12/07/2011 01:28, Philip Chee wrote: Hi to our Beta testers and bug triagers. Does anyone else see this bug or is it just the reporters system? Bug 665869 - PDF file with mime-type application/octet-stream is opened inline in SeaMonkey 2.x https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=665869 Phil Oops. Meant to include m.s.seamonkey as well. Phil -- Philip Chee phi...@aleytys.pc.my, philip.c...@gmail.com http://flashblock.mozdev.org/ http://xsidebar.mozdev.org Guard us from the she-wolf and the wolf, and guard us from the thief, oh Night, and so be good for us to pass. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: top of SeaMonkey browser screen
On 11.07.2011 12:06, JohnQPublic wrote:
--- Original Message ---
Jay Garcia j...@jaynospamgarcia.com wrote in message
news:mv2dneuixiy0h4btnz2dnuvz_vqdn...@mozilla.org...
On 11.07.2011 10:28, JohnQPublic wrote:
--- Original Message ---
Jay Garcia j...@jaynospamgarcia.com wrote in message
news:2_ydnb93_6c2ayftnz2dnuvz_oqdn...@mozilla.org...
On 11.07.2011 01:39, JohnQPublic wrote:
--- Original Message ---
Here's how the top of my SeaMonkey 2.2 browser screen looks:
http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/6334/seamonkey.jpg
As you can see everything (all controls) is on a single toolbar, the
Menu
Bar. That's exactly the way I want it, and it's very important to me! I
have
the same layout at top of browser screens in IE6, FF3.6.18, and
customized
FF5.
There's only a slight problem with the SeaMonkey layout. I would like
to
drag the left side of the search window to the left slightly, to make
it
a
little wider, but it won't resize. Putting a separator between the
address
window and search window doesn't help. My other browsers have this
drag/resize (sliding) capability. Is there any way to do it in
SeaMonkey?
[General comments: I'm a newbie with SeaMonkey, still trying to get my
sea
legs under me. I like the looks and feel, and may consider adopting it
as
my
default browser - partly because I'm not happy with the direction
Firefox
is
taking. But I'll have to play around with the mail/news window for
quite
awhile to see if my old OE can be replaced. I was pleasantly surprised
when
I opened the address book window all my OE contacts were imported
instantly.]
Thanks.
Add this to your userChrome.css:
/* Make the Search box flex wider */
#search-container, #searchbar {
width: 400px !important;
}
Change the 400px to whatever suits your needs.
Thanks, but I'm in over my head and am getting confused...
I found this reference and have read some of it:
http://www-archive.mozilla.org/unix/customizing.html
I'm familiar with .html but never did anything with .css
I can make a userChrome.css file with a text editor, but I can't figure
out
where to put it. It's supposed to go into a chrome folder in my SeaMonkey
profile folder, but there is no chrome folder therein. So do I create
one?
That's for my fully installed SeaMonkey, which is quite different from my
portable installed SeaMonkey. The latter includes an example
userChrome.css
file, a chrome folder, etc., which are entirely absent in the full
install
SeaMonkey.
It's like the fully installed SeaMonkey 2.2 is missing something. Maybe
it's
detecting and using part of the portable installation profile. Maybe I
need
to delete the portable installation...(?)
You should already have the userChrome.css file, located in:
C:\Documents and Settings\your username\Application
Data\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles\your profile.slt\chrome
Open the file and add the mod I provided by copy/paste
Nope, it's not there. There's no chrome folder for SeaMonkey 2.2 at that
location, nor anywhere else. Firefox 3.6.18 doesn't have one either. That's
for the full-installed versions. Like I said before, only my portable apps
have a chrome folder...
Do you have hidden files and folders enabled in your Windows prefs?
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Re: SEAMONKEY ADDRESS BOOK REALLY POOR NOW
Charly Brown wrote: 2) Unfortunately imho the collect all address collection function to get all addresses from to or cc sent address lists in received e-mails is not given any more since the days mozilla evolved from netscape. Or have I overlooked something? How can I quickly (one click) harvest all e-mail addresses from an incoming mail into my address book? Look for them in your Collected Addresses address book, move them to your Personal Address Book or whatever AB you like. You can edit them before or after the move. -- War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left. -- Paul B. Gallagher ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SEAMONKEY ADDRESS BOOK REALLY POOR NOW
On Jul 11, 8:20Â pm, Bill Spikowski b...@spikowski.com wrote: Charly Brown wrote: 1) While drawing a group of e-mail addresses from oneaddressbook into a second one without loosing them in the firstaddressbook (duplicating into anotheraddressbook) doesn't work any longer since quiet a number of versions, now even the dragging of e-mail addresses e.g. from the collected addresses or the personaladdressbookinto anotheraddressbookdoesn't work any longer at all. - Or do I have overlooked a secret (new?) setting possibility. I've noticed this too; but then after restarting SM, the dragged addresses show up in theaddressbook NADA Bill, not in my unlucky v.2.2 When I try to drag the addy the mouse arrow turns into a no parking sign - or how it is called - i.e. obviously FORBIDDEN How on earth can I manage my address books for different mailing lists??? I just installed 2.2. today and now I also realize that the open in new window or open in new tab command (in right click list) while searching on Google doesn't work at all. Is the Seamonkey grand-father or one of the fathers around? I am really grateful for all their tremendous work, from which we all benefit, but your sons have great expectations to not revolve but evolve. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SEAMONKEY ADDRESS BOOK REALLY POOR NOW
Bill Spikowski wrote: Charly Brown wrote: 1) While drawing a group of e-mail addresses from one address book into a second one without loosing them in the first address book (duplicating into another address book) doesn't work any longer since quiet a number of versions, now even the dragging of e-mail addresses e.g. from the collected addresses or the personal address book into another address book doesn't work any longer at all. - Or do I have overlooked a secret (new?) setting possibility. I've noticed this too; but then after restarting SM, the dragged addresses show up in the address book You don't have to restart the program. Dragged records appear if you open a different AB and then return. The same problem affects the Bookmarks Manager. -- War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left. -- Paul B. Gallagher ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.2 and Extensions
MCBastos sent me the following:: Interviewed by CNN on 11/07/2011 03:53, sean nathan bean told the world: Justin Wood (Callek) sent me the following:: On 7/10/2011 8:34 PM, David E. Ross wrote: I just installed SM 2.2 and found more extensions broken merely by the version number. With four profiles and four broken extensions in each, it took me about an hour to tweak them all. Installing the Extension Compatability Reporter [https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/addon/add-on-compatibility-reporter/] will actually try hard to keep all the extensions enabled, but you also have the issue that any actual application changes can still cause extensions to break/break-the-app. But it lets you override this stuff without needing to manually change any files. goint to the addon's page with: Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:2.0.1) Gecko/20110608 Firefox/4.0.1 SeaMonkey/2.1 the addon's page tells me: This add-on requires Firefox 8.0a1. You are currently using Firefox 2.1. 8.0a1? ... i also see no place in about:config to change user agent... is there a string i need to add? i feel like i'm losing my mind here... Try using the Seamonkey download page instead of the Firefox one: https://addons.mozilla.org/seamonkey/addon/add-on-compatibility-reporter/ thx... used to be all mozilla addons or themes all were in one place and the page wold indicate whether said addon or theme was available for Firefox or SeaMonkey... sorta sad to see they can't be both added from the same download page... sean -- To watch us dance is to hear our hearts speak ~ Hopi Indian Saying courtesy of TagZilla 0.066.2 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Not the inspired by Chrome, Firefox style versioning system please!
On 11-07-10 12:58 PM, Lee wrote: On 7/10/11, Chris Iliasn...@ilias.ca wrote: On 11-07-09 2:11 PM, Lee wrote: But the downside is that Mozilla is forcing everyone still using their browser to be alpha/beta testers by not keeping a stable version of the software supported. SeaMonkey 2.2 and Firefox 5 are stable. The SeaMonkey dev team has done an excellent job of creating a quality product. So in that sense, yes, SM is stable. But what I meant by stable in the context of forcing everyone still using their browser to be alpha/beta testers is a release train with no new features - just patches. And those new features have already gone through alpha/beta testing and have been deemed ready for end-users. Why in the world the Mozilla folk think going to a rapid release system is going to win back their lost mindshare (FF usage: down. chrome usage: up) is beyond me. It has nothing to do with whatever you call mindshare, and more to do with not letting unfinished features prevent other improvements (like CSS animations) from getting out to users when they are ready. I suspect there's lot of SM users that would prefer to stay on the same release train (eg. 2.2.x) and not upgrade to the next release train until all of the addons they use have been updated to work work with the new release train. Even if it meant living without CSS animations.. So your issue about add-on compatibility, not forking old releases, correct? In other words, if all your add-ons were compatible with SM 2.2 when 2.2 was released, you wouldn't mind the rapid release, correct? -- Chris Ilias http://ilias.ca Mailing list/Newsgroup moderator ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: tabs in SeaMonkey 2.2 browser poorly designed
On 2011-07-11 14:34, JohnQPublic wrote: Apparently the only way to close a tab in SeaMonkey with the mouse is to click the little x at the rightside of the tab bar I'm surprised no one mentioned middle clicking a tab as method for closing it. I never used another method. Granted, not every mouse has a 3rd mouse button but nearly every. Juergen ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: top of SeaMonkey browser screen
Jay Garcia j...@jaynospamgarcia.com wrote in message
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On 11.07.2011 12:06, JohnQPublic wrote:
--- Original Message ---
Jay Garcia j...@jaynospamgarcia.com wrote in message
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On 11.07.2011 10:28, JohnQPublic wrote:
--- Original Message ---
Jay Garcia j...@jaynospamgarcia.com wrote in message
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On 11.07.2011 01:39, JohnQPublic wrote:
--- Original Message ---
Here's how the top of my SeaMonkey 2.2 browser screen looks:
http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/6334/seamonkey.jpg
As you can see everything (all controls) is on a single toolbar, the
Menu
Bar. That's exactly the way I want it, and it's very important to me!
I
have
the same layout at top of browser screens in IE6, FF3.6.18, and
customized
FF5.
There's only a slight problem with the SeaMonkey layout. I would like
to
drag the left side of the search window to the left slightly, to make
it
a
little wider, but it won't resize. Putting a separator between the
address
window and search window doesn't help. My other browsers have this
drag/resize (sliding) capability. Is there any way to do it in
SeaMonkey?
[General comments: I'm a newbie with SeaMonkey, still trying to get
my
sea
legs under me. I like the looks and feel, and may consider adopting
it
as
my
default browser - partly because I'm not happy with the direction
Firefox
is
taking. But I'll have to play around with the mail/news window for
quite
awhile to see if my old OE can be replaced. I was pleasantly
surprised
when
I opened the address book window all my OE contacts were imported
instantly.]
Thanks.
Add this to your userChrome.css:
/* Make the Search box flex wider */
#search-container, #searchbar {
width: 400px !important;
}
Change the 400px to whatever suits your needs.
Thanks, but I'm in over my head and am getting confused...
I found this reference and have read some of it:
http://www-archive.mozilla.org/unix/customizing.html
I'm familiar with .html but never did anything with .css
I can make a userChrome.css file with a text editor, but I can't figure
out
where to put it. It's supposed to go into a chrome folder in my
SeaMonkey
profile folder, but there is no chrome folder therein. So do I create
one?
That's for my fully installed SeaMonkey, which is quite different from
my
portable installed SeaMonkey. The latter includes an example
userChrome.css
file, a chrome folder, etc., which are entirely absent in the full
install
SeaMonkey.
It's like the fully installed SeaMonkey 2.2 is missing something. Maybe
it's
detecting and using part of the portable installation profile. Maybe I
need
to delete the portable installation...(?)
You should already have the userChrome.css file, located in:
C:\Documents and Settings\your username\Application
Data\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles\your profile.slt\chrome
Open the file and add the mod I provided by copy/paste
Nope, it's not there. There's no chrome folder for SeaMonkey 2.2 at that
location, nor anywhere else. Firefox 3.6.18 doesn't have one either.
That's
for the full-installed versions. Like I said before, only my portable
apps
have a chrome folder...
Do you have hidden files and folders enabled in your Windows prefs?
Nope! The chrome folder and example .css files were not there in Firefox nor
SeaMonkey. I have no idea why. But I've now done a clean uninstall/reinstall
of Firefox 3.6.18 and they appeared OK. I also uninstalled SeaMonkey but
haven't reinstalled it yet. I expect it to behave the same. I'll play with
it some more later, maybe tomorrow. Thanks for your help.
--
JQP
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Re: Not the inspired by Chrome, Firefox style versioning system please!
On 11-07-10 8:52 PM, Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote: Chris Ilias wrote: On 11-07-09 2:11 PM, Lee wrote: ... SeaMonkey 2.2 and Firefox 5 are stable. But the automatic update script isn't even out yet. So 2.2 hasn't had a chance to spread yet. Of course it may be declared stable by edict, with all fixes later, in future versions, mixed in with new features. According to Callek SM 2.3 is expected in about a month. So where is there any evidence of stability? When end-users go to the SeaMonkey website to download the latest stable version, they are given SeaMonkey 2.2. That means alpha and beta testing of 2.2 is done. If the auto-update to 2.2 is not available yet, that just means that the auto-update to 2.2 is not ready yet. It may need more testing; maybe it just needs to be localized. But just because the auto-update from previous versions to 2.2 is not available yet does not mean that 2.2 itself is not stable. If end-users want to update without using the auto-update they can go to http://www.seamonkey-project.org/ right now. -- Chris Ilias http://ilias.ca Mailing list/Newsgroup moderator ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SEAMONKEY ADDRESS BOOK REALLY POOR NOW
Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Bill Spikowski wrote: Charly Brown wrote: 1) While drawing a group of e-mail addresses from one address book into a second one without loosing them in the first address book (duplicating into another address book) doesn't work any longer since quiet a number of versions, now even the dragging of e-mail addresses e.g. from the collected addresses or the personal address book into another address book doesn't work any longer at all. - Or do I have overlooked a secret (new?) setting possibility. I've noticed this too; but then after restarting SM, the dragged addresses show up in the address book You don't have to restart the program. Dragged records appear if you open a different AB and then return. The same problem affects the Bookmarks Manager. That's good to know -- I seemed to lose some bookmarks too but they did turn up later! ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Not the inspired by Chrome, Firefox style versioning system please!
Chris Ilias wrote: On 11-07-10 8:52 PM, Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote: Chris Ilias wrote: On 11-07-09 2:11 PM, Lee wrote: ... SeaMonkey 2.2 and Firefox 5 are stable. But the automatic update script isn't even out yet. So 2.2 hasn't had a chance to spread yet. Of course it may be declared stable by edict, with all fixes later, in future versions, mixed in with new features. According to Callek SM 2.3 is expected in about a month. So where is there any evidence of stability? When end-users go to the SeaMonkey website to download the latest stable version, they are given SeaMonkey 2.2. That means alpha and beta testing of 2.2 is done. If the auto-update to 2.2 is not available yet, that just means that the auto-update to 2.2 is not ready yet. It may need more testing; maybe it just needs to be localized. But just because the auto-update from previous versions to 2.2 is not available yet does not mean that 2.2 itself is not stable. If end-users want to update without using the auto-update they can go to http://www.seamonkey-project.org/ right now. Why did you speak about stability when we see a too rapid changing. I just intalled 2.1 because t was presented as the best, now 2.2 is the best, 2.3 is not far from 2.2, etc should we consider 2.x changes as minor release so we can jump from 2.0 to 2.1, or 2.2 or 2.3 or 2.4 or 2.5 ? With a major release in 3.0 where perhaps we need to be in 2.5 when we decided to go to 3.0 ... without the possibility to go from 2.0 to 2.0 ? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: top of SeaMonkey browser screen
On 11.07.2011 14:27, JohnQPublic wrote:
--- Original Message ---
Jay Garcia j...@jaynospamgarcia.com wrote in message
news:hd2dnzqp5jguoobtnz2dnuvz_gqdn...@mozilla.org...
On 11.07.2011 12:06, JohnQPublic wrote:
--- Original Message ---
Jay Garcia j...@jaynospamgarcia.com wrote in message
news:mv2dneuixiy0h4btnz2dnuvz_vqdn...@mozilla.org...
On 11.07.2011 10:28, JohnQPublic wrote:
--- Original Message ---
Jay Garcia j...@jaynospamgarcia.com wrote in message
news:2_ydnb93_6c2ayftnz2dnuvz_oqdn...@mozilla.org...
On 11.07.2011 01:39, JohnQPublic wrote:
--- Original Message ---
Here's how the top of my SeaMonkey 2.2 browser screen looks:
http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/6334/seamonkey.jpg
As you can see everything (all controls) is on a single toolbar, the
Menu
Bar. That's exactly the way I want it, and it's very important to me!
I
have
the same layout at top of browser screens in IE6, FF3.6.18, and
customized
FF5.
There's only a slight problem with the SeaMonkey layout. I would like
to
drag the left side of the search window to the left slightly, to make
it
a
little wider, but it won't resize. Putting a separator between the
address
window and search window doesn't help. My other browsers have this
drag/resize (sliding) capability. Is there any way to do it in
SeaMonkey?
[General comments: I'm a newbie with SeaMonkey, still trying to get
my
sea
legs under me. I like the looks and feel, and may consider adopting
it
as
my
default browser - partly because I'm not happy with the direction
Firefox
is
taking. But I'll have to play around with the mail/news window for
quite
awhile to see if my old OE can be replaced. I was pleasantly
surprised
when
I opened the address book window all my OE contacts were imported
instantly.]
Thanks.
Add this to your userChrome.css:
/* Make the Search box flex wider */
#search-container, #searchbar {
width: 400px !important;
}
Change the 400px to whatever suits your needs.
Thanks, but I'm in over my head and am getting confused...
I found this reference and have read some of it:
http://www-archive.mozilla.org/unix/customizing.html
I'm familiar with .html but never did anything with .css
I can make a userChrome.css file with a text editor, but I can't figure
out
where to put it. It's supposed to go into a chrome folder in my
SeaMonkey
profile folder, but there is no chrome folder therein. So do I create
one?
That's for my fully installed SeaMonkey, which is quite different from
my
portable installed SeaMonkey. The latter includes an example
userChrome.css
file, a chrome folder, etc., which are entirely absent in the full
install
SeaMonkey.
It's like the fully installed SeaMonkey 2.2 is missing something. Maybe
it's
detecting and using part of the portable installation profile. Maybe I
need
to delete the portable installation...(?)
You should already have the userChrome.css file, located in:
C:\Documents and Settings\your username\Application
Data\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles\your profile.slt\chrome
Open the file and add the mod I provided by copy/paste
Nope, it's not there. There's no chrome folder for SeaMonkey 2.2 at that
location, nor anywhere else. Firefox 3.6.18 doesn't have one either.
That's
for the full-installed versions. Like I said before, only my portable
apps
have a chrome folder...
Do you have hidden files and folders enabled in your Windows prefs?
Nope! The chrome folder and example .css files were not there in Firefox nor
SeaMonkey. I have no idea why. But I've now done a clean uninstall/reinstall
of Firefox 3.6.18 and they appeared OK. I also uninstalled SeaMonkey but
haven't reinstalled it yet. I expect it to behave the same. I'll play with
it some more later, maybe tomorrow. Thanks for your help.
Only thing I can think of as to why /chrome/ wasn't there is because you
may have been installing over and over and over previous versions when
it wasn't in the profile directory.
--
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www.ufaq.org
Netscape - Firefox - SeaMonkey - Thunderbird
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Re: top of SeaMonkey browser screen
On 07/11/2011 12:53 PM, Jay Garcia wrote: ... Only thing I can think of as to why /chrome/ wasn't there is because you may have been installing over and over and over previous versions when it wasn't in the profile directory. Pleease trim your posts. You guys went from 29 lines to 41, 69, 81, 99, 107, 122 and 131. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Interesting... Neither FF or SM is allowed on this Amtrak page
NoOp wrote: On 07/10/2011 04:09 PM, Rick Merrill wrote: NoOp wrote: Can anyone else confirm: https://careers.amtrak.com/webdynpro/resources/sap.com/tc~wd~dispwda/global/noclient.htm It is HTTPS for heavens sake! I get the same message using IE8! Yes, so? However if you follow the links I provided regarding the SAP forums, you'll see it's a SAP issue. Apparently they (SAP) aren't too bright when it comes to their browser sniffing. Apparently so! I only mention it because the OP seemed to think it was a browser issue not a website issue. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Install 2.2 over 2.014?
Can I just download 2.2 and install over 2.014 or do I need to wait for the automatic update? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Not the inspired by Chrome, Firefox style versioning system please!
On 11-07-11 3:48 PM, Ray_Net wrote: Why did you speak about stability when we see a too rapid changing. My original SeaMonkey 2.2 and Firefox 5 are stable statement was in response to Lee's statement that Mozilla is forcing everyone still using their browser to be alpha/beta testers by not keeping a stable version of the software supported. I just intalled 2.1 because t was presented as the best, now 2.2 is the best, 2.3 is not far from 2.2, etc should we consider 2.x changes as minor release so we can jump from 2.0 to 2.1, or 2.2 or 2.3 or 2.4 or 2.5 ? More frequent release = less difference between releases. But those differences are not restricted. Previously updates to 2.0.x would be restricted to security and stability fixes. API changes were not allowed until the next major release. With a major release in 3.0 where perhaps we need to be in 2.5 when we decided to go to 3.0 ... without the possibility to go from 2.0 to 2.0 ? I have no idea if there is a plan for SeaMonkey 3.0. One element of the rapid release cycle for Firefox is that version numbers are not marketed at all. -- Chris Ilias http://ilias.ca Mailing list/Newsgroup moderator ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Interesting... Neither FF or SM is allowed on this Amtrak page
On 07/11/2011 01:14 PM, Rick Merrill wrote: NoOp wrote: On 07/10/2011 04:09 PM, Rick Merrill wrote: NoOp wrote: Can anyone else confirm: https://careers.amtrak.com/webdynpro/resources/sap.com/tc~wd~dispwda/global/noclient.htm It is HTTPS for heavens sake! I get the same message using IE8! Yes, so? However if you follow the links I provided regarding the SAP forums, you'll see it's a SAP issue. Apparently they (SAP) aren't too bright when it comes to their browser sniffing. Apparently so! I only mention it because the OP seemed to think it was a browser issue not a website issue. I'm the OP :-) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: top of SeaMonkey browser screen
On 11.07.2011 15:08, NoOp wrote: --- Original Message --- On 07/11/2011 12:53 PM, Jay Garcia wrote: ... Only thing I can think of as to why /chrome/ wasn't there is because you may have been installing over and over and over previous versions when it wasn't in the profile directory. Pleease trim your posts. You guys went from 29 lines to 41, 69, 81, 99, 107, 122 and 131. What happens to a reader returning to the thread (marked as read) and wants to catch up by reading the last post and scrolling up? Snipping has it's merits, agreed, but so does non-snipping. If you don't want to be inconvenienced by an entire post then just ctrl+end to get to the bottom OR page down to read interspersed replies. YMMV Etiquette applies most of the time but not always a case of etiquete. Followup set to .general -- *Jay Garcia - Netscape Champion* www.ufaq.org Netscape - Firefox - SeaMonkey - Thunderbird ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Not the inspired by Chrome, Firefox style versioning system please!
Chris Ilias wrote: On 11-07-10 8:52 PM, Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote: Chris Ilias wrote: On 11-07-09 2:11 PM, Lee wrote: ... SeaMonkey 2.2 and Firefox 5 are stable. But the automatic update script isn't even out yet. So 2.2 hasn't had a chance to spread yet. Of course it may be declared stable by edict, with all fixes later, in future versions, mixed in with new features. According to Callek SM 2.3 is expected in about a month. So where is there any evidence of stability? When end-users go to the SeaMonkey website to download the latest stable version, they are given SeaMonkey 2.2. That means alpha and beta testing of 2.2 is done. Nah... When end-users go to the SeaMonkey site, that is no warantee of the stability of what they get. It is the product version that has been frozen for release at that moment in time. If the auto-update to 2.2 is not available yet, that just means that the auto-update to 2.2 is not ready yet. Oh! How true! ... Gee :) It may need more testing; ... . Of course the users can manually upgrade to the 2.2 release. But any user who is set up for an automatic check for upgrades, or who presses Help| CHeck for updates will get the response that there are no updates! ergo my statement that So 2.2 hasn't had a chance to spread yet. among the general user population which is not chasing the latest. Which means that the Gamma testing phase has not even begun To most, stability means absence of commonly encountered bugs and misfeatures in the current product. Not the freezing of a code package for release. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: top of SeaMonkey browser screen
On 07/11/2011 02:01 PM, Jay Garcia wrote: On 11.07.2011 15:08, NoOp wrote: ... Pleease trim your posts. You guys went from 29 lines to 41, 69, 81, 99, 107, 122 and 131. What happens to a reader returning to the thread (marked as read) and wants to catch up by reading the last post and scrolling up? Snipping has it's merits, agreed, but so does non-snipping. If you don't want to be inconvenienced by an entire post then just ctrl+end to get to the bottom OR page down to read interspersed replies. YMMV Etiquette applies most of the time but not always a case of etiquete. Followup set to .general http://www.mozilla.org/about/forums/etiquette.html quote Trim your follow-ups. Do not quote the entire content of the message to which you are replying. Include only as much as is necessary for context. Remember that if someone wants to read the original message, they can; it is easily accessible. A good rule of thumb is, don't include more quoted text than new text. There is always a need for some trimming - either a salutation, a signature, some blank lines or whatever. If you are doing no trimming whatsoever of the quoted text, then you aren't trimming enough. /quote. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Not the inspired by Chrome, Firefox style versioning system please!
On 11-07-11 5:16 PM, Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote: Chris Ilias wrote: On 11-07-10 8:52 PM, Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote: Chris Ilias wrote: On 11-07-09 2:11 PM, Lee wrote: ... SeaMonkey 2.2 and Firefox 5 are stable. But the automatic update script isn't even out yet. So 2.2 hasn't had a chance to spread yet. Of course it may be declared stable by edict, with all fixes later, in future versions, mixed in with new features. According to Callek SM 2.3 is expected in about a month. So where is there any evidence of stability? When end-users go to the SeaMonkey website to download the latest stable version, they are given SeaMonkey 2.2. That means alpha and beta testing of 2.2 is done. Nah... Yeahuh. :) When end-users go to the SeaMonkey site, that is no warantee of the stability of what they get. It is the product version that has been frozen for release at that moment in time. The fact that is what end-users are told to download is the assurance you are looking for. What you're referring to is not alpha and beta testing. -- Chris Ilias http://ilias.ca Mailing list/Newsgroup moderator ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: top of SeaMonkey browser screen
On 11.07.2011 16:16, NoOp wrote: --- Original Message --- Followup set to .general http://www.mozilla.org/about/forums/etiquette.html quote Trim your follow-ups. Do not quote the entire content of the message to which you are replying. Include only as much as is necessary for context. Remember that if someone wants to read the original message, they can; it is easily accessible. A good rule of thumb is, don't include more quoted text than new text. There is always a need for some trimming - either a salutation, a signature, some blank lines or whatever. If you are doing no trimming whatsoever of the quoted text, then you aren't trimming enough. /quote. Please do not reset/remove the followup, it was set for a reason. Read my response to Paul Gallagher there. Followup set to .general -- *Jay Garcia - Netscape Champion* www.ufaq.org Netscape - Firefox - SeaMonkey - Thunderbird ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: tabs in SeaMonkey 2.2 browser poorly designed
JohnQPublic wrote: Sorry to say it, but the tabs in SeaMonkey 2.2 browser just aren't up to snuff... The active tab needs to be highlighted with a different color, so it's easy to see. Firefox accomplishes this by making the active tab lighter, which works fine. If there's any difference in SeaMonkey, I can't see it with my CRT monitor. I realize that LCD monitors render grayscales better, but SeaMonkey should take that into consideration. I've looked through the settings and can't find any way to fix this, so presume it's built-in(?). Apparently the only way to close a tab in SeaMonkey with the mouse is to click the little x at the rightside of the tab bar, but it's too small to hit easily quickly with the mouse pointer. Also that's much less satisfactory than having an x on each tab. Without an x on each tab, it's necessary to first select a tab then click the x. Very cumbersome. Or am I overlooking something obvious as a newbie? Yes, I'm aware of the keyboard shortcuts affecting tabs, but I normally use a mouse for these operations. SeaTab X ( http://tom-cat.com/mozilla/seamonkey/extensions-seatabx.html ) will place a closer X on the tab. It says it works with SM2.2. (If it doesn't, use the Compatibilty Reporter add-on ( https://addons.mozilla.org/seamonkey/addon/add-on-compatibility-reporter/ ). (I have version bumped the xpi installer to work with 2.* and it works fine.) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey Composer keeps getting worse
Don DeWitt wrote: A while back... NEW ANNOYANCE I've had a variety of problems with Composer as well (I believe I read that no one is currently maintaining it), sufficiently that I decided to use something else, at least in the interim. I ended up downloading both CompoZer and BlueGriffon. I think I prefer the latter. Both have a heritage running back to the original Composer. I believe that Daniel Glazman (originally on the Composer team, and later driver of NVU) is driving BlueGriffon, and I see there's a Mac version. Regards, RL ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Corrupt file
Interviewed by CNN on 11/07/2011 12:06, Gerald Ross told the world: I noticed a file named places.sqlite.corrupt. Can this be safely deleted? It is much larger than the places.sqlite file. Well, from what I understand this is what happens when Seamonkey is unable to understand the places.sqlite file -- it gets renamed to places.sqlite.corrupt and a new one is created from scratch. Meaning you lost all your history, bookmarks and such. One situation (it's not the only one) where this might have happened is if you went back to Seamonkey 2.0 after testing Seamonkey 2.1 or 2.2 in the same profile: the newer version add changes to the places.sqlite database that the old version does not understand, and therefore considers the file damaged. If you DID go back to SM 2.0 at some point and are wondering what happened to your old bookmarks, you MIGHT attempt to rename the places.sqlite.corrupt back to places.sqlite to check if your old bookmarks are there. But do back up the current places.sqlite file before that. -- MCBastos This message has been protected with the 2ROT13 algorithm. Unauthorized use will be prosecuted under the DMCA. -=-=- ... Sent from my wrist radio. *Added by TagZilla 0.066.2 running on Seamonkey 2.1 * Get it at http://xsidebar.mozdev.org/modifiedmailnews.html#tagzilla ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey Composer keeps getting worse
Don DeWitt wrote: I've had a variety of problems with Composer as well (I believe I read that no one is currently maintaining it) There was some chatter at one point of collaboration with Kaze, the developer of KompoZer. I wonder if anything ever come from that? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: tabs in SeaMonkey 2.2 browser poorly designed
SeaTab X and Jay Garcia's tip have saved the day!! ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: tabs in SeaMonkey 2.2 browser poorly designed
On 2011/07/11 07:34 (GMT-0500) JohnQPublic composed: Sorry to say it, but the tabs in SeaMonkey 2.2 browser just aren't up to snuff... Your opinion. The active tab needs to be highlighted with a different color, That's the way it is here on my CRT, same as it has been for many years: http://fm.no-ip.com/SS/Moz/tabsclosebuttonSMm1400.jpg Apparently the only way to close a tab in SeaMonkey with the mouse is to click the little x at the rightside of the tab bar, but it's too small to hit easily quickly with the mouse pointer. Also that's much less satisfactory than having an x on each tab. Without an x on each tab, it's necessary to first select a tab then click the x. Very cumbersome. Or am I overlooking something obvious as a newbie? You're overlooking the context menu, and overlooking what happens to users who keep open many tabs in browsers with an X button on every tab. Imagine yourself trying to hit the correct X if an X was on every tab in the above picture. First thing I do in every new FF profile is get the Xs off the tabs. -- The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive. Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: tabs in SeaMonkey 2.2 browser poorly designed
Gerald Ross wrote:
Jay Garcia wrote:
On 11.07.2011 07:34, JohnQPublic wrote:
--- Original Message ---
Sorry to say it, but the tabs in SeaMonkey 2.2 browser just aren't up to
snuff...
The active tab needs to be highlighted with a different color, so
it's easy
to see. Firefox accomplishes this by making the active tab lighter,
which
works fine. If there's any difference in SeaMonkey, I can't see it
with my
CRT monitor. I realize that LCD monitors render grayscales better, but
SeaMonkey should take that into consideration. I've looked through the
settings and can't find any way to fix this, so presume it's
built-in(?).
Apparently the only way to close a tab in SeaMonkey with the mouse is to
click the little x at the rightside of the tab bar, but it's too
small to
hit easily quickly with the mouse pointer. Also that's much less
satisfactory than having an x on each tab. Without an x on each tab,
it's
necessary to first select a tab then click the x. Very cumbersome. Or
am I
overlooking something obvious as a newbie? Yes, I'm aware of the
keyboard
shortcuts affecting tabs, but I normally use a mouse for these
operations.
Add to your userChrome.css:
.tabbrowser-tab[selected=true] hbox,
.tabbrowser-tab[selected=true] .tab-close-button {
background-color: #88 !important;
color: #fff !important;
}
.tabbrowser-tab[selected=true]:hover hbox,
.tabbrowser-tab[selected=true]:hover .tab-close-button {
background-color: #BB !important;
color: #fff !important;
}
This will hilite the active tab to blue. Dunno about making the X any
larger.
I tried this on 2.0.14 and it works a treat!
It's nice to have experts around. Thanks Jay!
I found that with 2.0.14 I simply couldn't stand the new Default theme -
lasted about 2 days with it; changed it to SM Modern and have been as
happy (as I can be) ever since...
...tiny buttons in the download dialog withstanding.
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Re: SM 2.2 and Extensions
On 7/11/2011 9:13 AM, MCBastos wrote: Interviewed by CNN on 11/07/2011 03:53, sean nathan bean told the world: Justin Wood (Callek) sent me the following:: On 7/10/2011 8:34 PM, David E. Ross wrote: I just installed SM 2.2 and found more extensions broken merely by the version number. With four profiles and four broken extensions in each, it took me about an hour to tweak them all. Installing the Extension Compatability Reporter [https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/addon/add-on-compatibility-reporter/] will actually try hard to keep all the extensions enabled, but you also have the issue that any actual application changes can still cause extensions to break/break-the-app. But it lets you override this stuff without needing to manually change any files. goint to the addon's page with: Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:2.0.1) Gecko/20110608 Firefox/4.0.1 SeaMonkey/2.1 the addon's page tells me: This add-on requires Firefox 8.0a1. You are currently using Firefox 2.1. 8.0a1? ... i also see no place in about:config to change user agent... is there a string i need to add? i feel like i'm losing my mind here... Try using the Seamonkey download page instead of the Firefox one: https://addons.mozilla.org/seamonkey/addon/add-on-compatibility-reporter/ Err whops, yea. That was my mistake, (forgot the URL was app-specific). -- ~Justin Wood (Callek) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
why so bitchy???
... i see numeroud complaint abt sm and each ome can be answered the same YOU ARE GETTING WHAT YOU PAID FOR!!! JUST KEEP IN MING sm was free. it id wicked pissa for the price. -- b MOTHER ALWAYS TOLD ME 'I WAS NOTHING SPECIAL... pause SHE WAS WRONG!!! ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: tabs in SeaMonkey 2.2 browser poorly designed
Interviewed by CNN on 11/07/2011 23:16, Felix Miata told the world: You're overlooking the context menu, and overlooking what happens to users who keep open many tabs in browsers with an X button on every tab. Imagine yourself trying to hit the correct X if an X was on every tab in the above picture. First thing I do in every new FF profile is get the Xs off the tabs. One feature of the Multizilla mega-extension I liked was the ability to have the X and the site icon in the same space: it normally looked like the site icon, but if you hovered the mouse over it it turned into the X. It saved a lot of space on the tab bar. Yes, some users might prefer to remove the icon entirely, leaving only text. That's their choice. But I think that the x-when-hover is a nice middle ground. (Chrome went the other way, keeping the X but removing the site icon... it's one of the things I don't like on it.) -- MCBastos This message has been protected with the 2ROT13 algorithm. Unauthorized use will be prosecuted under the DMCA. -=-=- ... Sent from my Mars Rover. *Added by TagZilla 0.066.2 running on Seamonkey 2.1 * Get it at http://xsidebar.mozdev.org/modifiedmailnews.html#tagzilla ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: top of SeaMonkey browser screen
On 2011/07/11 10:45 (GMT-0500) Jay Garcia composed: JohnQPublic wrote: I can make a userChrome.css file with a text editor, but I can't figure out where to put it. It's supposed to go into a chrome folder in my SeaMonkey profile folder, but there is no chrome folder therein. So do I create one? That's for my fully installed SeaMonkey, which is quite different from my portable installed SeaMonkey. The latter includes an example userChrome.css file, a chrome folder, etc., which are entirely absent in the full install SeaMonkey. It's like the fully installed SeaMonkey 2.2 is missing something. Maybe it's detecting and using part of the portable installation profile. Maybe I need to delete the portable installation...(?) You should already have the userChrome.css file, located in: C:\Documents and Settings\your username\Application Data\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles\your profile.slt\chrome SM used to require the Chrome directory, so did create it automatically. That ceased to be true several versions ago, as of SM2.0 IIRC. IOW, SM won't create that dir itself, but will use any valid CSS it finds there. Open the file and add the mod I provided by copy/paste FWIW, Chrome is also the home of any user CSS desired or required by the user, but it's up to the user to create all of it. -- The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive. Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: why so bitchy???
km wrote: ... i see numeroud(numerous) complaint abt sm and each ome(one) can be answered the same YOU ARE GETTING WHAT YOU PAID FOR!!! JUST KEEP IN MING(MIND) sm was free. it id(is) wicked pissa for the price. u go grl 8-) -- JD.. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: tabs in SeaMonkey 2.2 browser poorly designed
Juergen Herz juer...@jherz.redirectme.net wrote in message news:elidnrwdy-ht1obtnz2dnuvz_rydn...@mozilla.org... On 2011-07-11 14:34, JohnQPublic wrote: Apparently the only way to close a tab in SeaMonkey with the mouse is to click the little x at the rightside of the tab bar I'm surprised no one mentioned middle clicking a tab as method for closing it. I never used another method. Granted, not every mouse has a 3rd mouse button but nearly every. Thanks for the tip! It works fine with Firefox too. That's definitely the easiest way provided the spring on the 3rd mouse button (a middle rollerwheel on my mice) isn't too strong. I've tried 2 mice and one was OK, the other requires an extra strong fingerpress to click the middle button. (It tends to roll rather than be clicked.) That will be one of my criteria when I go mouse shopping next time. -- J.Q.P. (FF3.6.18 default browser, customized FF5.0_portable with FF3+ theme, Chrome12_portable, Opera11_portable, Iron12_portable, Maxthon3_portable, SeaMonkey2.2_portable, IE6, Outlook Express default mail/news, XP Home SP3) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Interesting... Neither FF or SM is allowed on this Amtrak page
It doesn't work using IE9 either. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
