Re: Still not informed of updates
Craig: NoOp wrote: Sure they are. Expand your msg headers and it will show the User-Agent (even with View|Headers|Normal). The only way I see to expand headers is View - Headers - All. Your comment implies there's another way. What is it? You may need to set the pref mailnews.headers.showUserAgent to true. Hartmut ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Address book dosn't run in 2.13.1
On 24/10/12 08.04, Justin Wood (Callek) ha scritto: [cut] Hey Guys, I just wanted to chime in and say I hear you the address book issue impact was under-estimated by me, and we will be building and releasing a .2 version for this fix, there are some other changes that will roll in with this, all of them equally beneficial [if not equally visible] I don't have a concrete ETA on the release yet, but I can say it will be out within the week. THANK YOU :) I downloaded SM 2.14b1 (OSX) and IT WORKS NOW ! Gabriel ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM hangs the whole system
On Thursday, October 25, 2012 8:57:41 PM UTC-5, Ed Mullen wrote: Okay. I'm going to try to be as nice and calm as I can. In previous posts we've exchanged messages about SM hanging ... consuming every last CPU bit, etc. I just did a total re-install of Windows 7 Pro. The first time I fired up SM mail? It took over the CPU and the system. Others have commented with similar issues. I've been using this product and its ancestors since around 1994. I'm a loyal user. And I'm going to have to go find another solution because this one, much as I like it, is broken... as is Thunderbird. It's something in the mail/news component of the products. I have the same issue when trying a Firefox and Tbird combo ... if it worked I would have (grudgingly ) moved to that. No *!@*!@# The system just locked up for 20 seconds while I'm typing this!!! Screw this. Been going on for about a year and a half. I'm done. By the way, it's not just locking up SM, it's locking up my whole system. I cannot abide this. Oh, God!!! I may have to invoke ... oh, please no ... OUTLOOK! Cripes. I'm gonna go have a drink. I dunno what to do. -- Ed Mullen http://edmullen.net/ Why is it that most nudists are people you don't want to see naked? WOW I would be upset too. I don't know if you have seen this site... http://seamonkey.ilias.ca/ But it has given me a few ideas in solving issues. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: No media.navigator.enabled in 2.14?
On Fri, 26 Oct 2012 07:14:09 -0500, Thee Chicago Wolf (MVP) wrote: I happened to notice that setting media.navigator.enabled=true in 2.14b2 doesn't actually enable HTML5 access to the webcam (WebRTC). Seems to work fine in Fx17. No love for Seamonkey? I've filed Bug 805785 - Package PeerConnection DOM interface (from mozilla-central Bug 694807) Phil -- Philip Chee phi...@aleytys.pc.my, philip.c...@gmail.com http://flashblock.mozdev.org/ http://xsidebar.mozdev.org Guard us from the she-wolf and the wolf, and guard us from the thief, oh Night, and so be good for us to pass. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM hangs the whole system
Ed Mullen wrote: Okay. I'm going to try to be as nice and calm as I can. In previous posts we've exchanged messages about SM hanging ... consuming every last CPU bit, etc. I just did a total re-install of Windows 7 Pro. The first time I fired up SM mail? It took over the CPU and the system. Others have commented with similar issues. I've been using this product and its ancestors since around 1994. I'm a loyal user. And I'm going to have to go find another solution because this one, much as I like it, is broken... as is Thunderbird. It's something in the mail/news component of the products. I have the same issue when trying a Firefox and Tbird combo ... if it worked I would have (grudgingly ) moved to that. No *!@*!@# The system just locked up for 20 seconds while I'm typing this!!! Screw this. Been going on for about a year and a half. I'm done. By the way, it's not just locking up SM, it's locking up my whole system. I cannot abide this. Oh, God!!! I may have to invoke ... oh, please no ... OUTLOOK! Cripes. I'm gonna go have a drink. I dunno what to do. Could it have anything to do with your Anti Virus? I know if my Kaspersky is doing anything and I try to use the mail it locks up. Just a thought. -- You either teach people to treat you with dignity and respect, or you don't. This means you are partly responsible for the mistreatment that you get at the hands of someone else. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM hangs the whole system
JAS wrote: Ed Mullen wrote: Okay. I'm going to try to be as nice and calm as I can. In previous posts we've exchanged messages about SM hanging ... consuming every last CPU bit, etc. I just did a total re-install of Windows 7 Pro. The first time I fired up SM mail? It took over the CPU and the system. Others have commented with similar issues. I've been using this product and its ancestors since around 1994. I'm a loyal user. And I'm going to have to go find another solution because this one, much as I like it, is broken... as is Thunderbird. It's something in the mail/news component of the products. I have the same issue when trying a Firefox and Tbird combo ... if it worked I would have (grudgingly ) moved to that. No *!@*!@# The system just locked up for 20 seconds while I'm typing this!!! Screw this. Been going on for about a year and a half. I'm done. By the way, it's not just locking up SM, it's locking up my whole system. I cannot abide this. Oh, God!!! I may have to invoke ... oh, please no ... OUTLOOK! Cripes. I'm gonna go have a drink. I dunno what to do. Could it have anything to do with your Anti Virus? I know if my Kaspersky is doing anything and I try to use the mail it locks up. Just a thought. Well, it seems to do it on a Mac as well, and I'm not running an antivirus. One funny I've noticed, is that every once in a while Seamonkey seem to kill smartd, after which my system will hang for 30 seconds at a time until smartd is restarted. Very weird interaction. -- In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice, there is. Yogi Berra ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: No media.navigator.enabled in 2.14?
Philip Chee wrote: On Fri, 26 Oct 2012 07:14:09 -0500, Thee Chicago Wolf (MVP) wrote: I happened to notice that setting media.navigator.enabled=true in 2.14b2 doesn't actually enable HTML5 access to the webcam (WebRTC). Seems to work fine in Fx17. No love for Seamonkey? I've filed Bug 805785 - Package PeerConnection DOM interface (from mozilla-central Bug 694807) Phil Also see https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=796092, this will work in SeaMonkey 2.16 and above. Also we probably should/need to port the whole GUI so that a user can allow/deny access to webcams/microphone. Unless we have a GUI, this feature will stay disabled. Frank ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Password saver has stopped working again
Once again a new version has stopped supporting an extension to save all passwords in human readable format. I'm not looking for a discussion of why this is a good or bad thing, since it is a required thing for this client. Reasons to do it: - it's *their* hardware - it's *their* passwords - they pay me *their* money to do things *their* way - the choice is to provide the list, on paper, within 24 hours of any change, or stop working for them - they're not asking for anything of mine, just theirs the way they want it. So is there an extension which allows dumping the full content of the password database into a text file or are we back to doing it by hand or using another software? -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com We are not out of the woods yet, but we know the direction and have taken the first step. The steps are many, but finite in number, and if we persevere we will reach our destination. -me, 2010 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Password saver has stopped working again
Bill Davidsen wrote: Once again a new version has stopped supporting an extension to save all passwords in human readable format. I'm not looking for a discussion of why this is a good or bad thing, since it is a required thing for this client. Reasons to do it: - it's *their* hardware - it's *their* passwords - they pay me *their* money to do things *their* way So, pass on some of their money to the developers and pay them to implement what your client needs. Philip Taylor ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Password saver has stopped working again
On 10/26/12 10:14 AM, Bill Davidsen wrote: Once again a new version has stopped supporting an extension to save all passwords in human readable format. I'm not looking for a discussion of why this is a good or bad thing, since it is a required thing for this client. Reasons to do it: - it's *their* hardware - it's *their* passwords - they pay me *their* money to do things *their* way - the choice is to provide the list, on paper, within 24 hours of any change, or stop working for them - they're not asking for anything of mine, just theirs the way they want it. So is there an extension which allows dumping the full content of the password database into a text file or are we back to doing it by hand or using another software? Try the Password Exporter extension at https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/addon/password-exporter/. While the Web page says Not available for SeaMonkey 2.13.1, I am using the extension with SeaMonkey 2.13.1. After you install the extension -- 1. Go to [Edit Preferences] on the SeaMonkey menu bar. 2. Select [Privacy Security Passwords] in the left column under Category. 3. On the Passwords pane, select the Import/Export Passwords button. 4. On the Import/Export Passwords window, you can select either the Export Passwords button or the View Saved Passwords button. The former button throws up a file-selection window for saving the export, with Save as type options of either XML or CSV. The latter provides a display of all domains and user IDs with an option to display the actual passwords. If a master password exists, the above will require that it be entered. Viewing the actual passwords in step #4 after selecting the View Saved Passwords button will requiire the master password to be entered a second time. -- David E. Ross http://www.rossde.com/ Anyone who thinks government owns a monopoly on inefficient, obstructive bureaucracy has obviously never worked for a large corporation. © 1997 by David E. Ross ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Password saver has stopped working again
David E. Ross wrote: On 10/26/12 10:14 AM, Bill Davidsen wrote: Once again a new version has stopped supporting an extension to save all passwords in human readable format. I'm not looking for a discussion of why this is a good or bad thing, since it is a required thing for this client. Reasons to do it: - it's *their* hardware - it's *their* passwords - they pay me *their* money to do things *their* way - the choice is to provide the list, on paper, within 24 hours of any change, or stop working for them - they're not asking for anything of mine, just theirs the way they want it. So is there an extension which allows dumping the full content of the password database into a text file or are we back to doing it by hand or using another software? Try the Password Exporter extension at https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/addon/password-exporter/. While the Web page says Not available for SeaMonkey 2.13.1, I am using the extension with SeaMonkey 2.13.1. After you install the extension -- 1. Go to [Edit Preferences] on the SeaMonkey menu bar. 2. Select [Privacy Security Passwords] in the left column under Category. 3. On the Passwords pane, select the Import/Export Passwords button. 4. On the Import/Export Passwords window, you can select either the Export Passwords button or the View Saved Passwords button. The former button throws up a file-selection window for saving the export, with Save as type options of either XML or CSV. The latter provides a display of all domains and user IDs with an option to display the actual passwords. If a master password exists, the above will require that it be entered. Viewing the actual passwords in step #4 after selecting the View Saved Passwords button will requiire the master password to be entered a second time. This is yet one more *very* important reason to use a strong Master Password! This scares me... -- - Rufus ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: comm central trunk
dpmrsem...@gmail.com wrote: Any news on 2.16a1 builds - none since 10-19 AFAIK that's because the Firefox developers changed the Python version required for building trunk. As always, they don't wait for dependent projects to upgrade their build environments or even notify them in advance. The following bug is tracking the upgrade for the SM side of things: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=803808 HTH Jens -- Jens Hatlak http://jens.hatlak.de/ SeaMonkey Trunk Tracker http://smtt.blogspot.com/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Still not informed of updates
On 10/26/2012 12:00 AM, Hartmut Figge wrote: Craig: NoOp wrote: Sure they are. Expand your msg headers and it will show the User-Agent (even with View|Headers|Normal). The only way I see to expand headers is View - Headers - All. Your comment implies there's another way. What is it? You may need to set the pref mailnews.headers.showUserAgent to true. Hartmut Nice catch Hartmut. Thanks. Apologies to Craig. @Craig: Hartmut is correct (as usual...). To have the normal headers show the UA: In the URL bar: about:config then enter useragent in the search bar and when mailnews.headers.showUserAgent appears, double click it to set it to true. Now when you view the headers View|Headers|Normal you will see: Subject: From: Date: Newsgroups: (if in newsgroups) or To: (if in email) User-Agent: Gary ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey 2.13.1 Released
Ant wrote: On 10/25/2012 8:47 PM PT, Jim typed: I followed up with Norton with this problem on their forums. The fix that worked for me -- they told me to restored the file from quarantine and Norton would no longer mess with it. I did that and that worked. Also, I submitted the .dll to Norton, and they said they couldn't reproduce the problem. From the forum users, it appears that some PCs had the problem and some didn't -- but not sure if they all had this release of SeaMonkey and Norton. Also, Norton may have fixed the problem in their antivirus prior to my file submission. What's the URL to this Notron forum thread? http://community.norton.com/t5/Norton-360/Help-with-false-positive/m-p/825018#U825018 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Still not informed of updates
NoOp wrote: On 10/26/2012 12:00 AM, Hartmut Figge wrote: Craig: NoOp wrote: Sure they are. Expand your msg headers and it will show the User-Agent (even with View|Headers|Normal). The only way I see to expand headers is View - Headers - All. Your comment implies there's another way. What is it? You may need to set the pref mailnews.headers.showUserAgent to true. Hartmut Nice catch Hartmut. Thanks. Apologies to Craig. @Craig: Hartmut is correct (as usual...). To have the normal headers show the UA: In the URL bar: about:config then enter useragent in the search bar and when mailnews.headers.showUserAgent appears, double click it to set it to true. Now when you view the headers View|Headers|Normal you will see: Subject: From: Date: Newsgroups: (if in newsgroups) or To: (if in email) User-Agent: Gary Another quick way to check/inspect your UA string (and/or to learn to build them for spoofing) is to navigate to this website: http://www.useragentstring.com/ -- - Rufus ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM hangs the whole system
Miles Fidelman wrote: JAS wrote: Ed Mullen wrote: Okay. I'm going to try to be as nice and calm as I can. In previous posts we've exchanged messages about SM hanging ... consuming every last CPU bit, etc. I just did a total re-install of Windows 7 Pro. The first time I fired up SM mail? It took over the CPU and the system. Others have commented with similar issues. I've been using this product and its ancestors since around 1994. I'm a loyal user. And I'm going to have to go find another solution because this one, much as I like it, is broken... as is Thunderbird. It's something in the mail/news component of the products. I have the same issue when trying a Firefox and Tbird combo ... if it worked I would have (grudgingly ) moved to that. No *!@*!@# The system just locked up for 20 seconds while I'm typing this!!! Screw this. Been going on for about a year and a half. I'm done. By the way, it's not just locking up SM, it's locking up my whole system. I cannot abide this. Oh, God!!! I may have to invoke ... oh, please no ... OUTLOOK! Cripes. I'm gonna go have a drink. I dunno what to do. Could it have anything to do with your Anti Virus? I know if my Kaspersky is doing anything and I try to use the mail it locks up. Just a thought. Well, it seems to do it on a Mac as well, and I'm not running an antivirus. One funny I've noticed, is that every once in a while Seamonkey seem to kill smartd, after which my system will hang for 30 seconds at a time until smartd is restarted. Very weird interaction. And today I got this message while using mail/news: A script on this page may be busy, or it may have stopped responding. You can stop the script now, or you can continue to see if the script will complete. Script: chrome://messenger/content/mailWindow.js:329 -- Ed Mullen http://edmullen.net/ You do not need a parachute to skydive. You only need a parachute to skydive twice. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM hangs the whole system
JAS wrote: Ed Mullen wrote: Okay. I'm going to try to be as nice and calm as I can. In previous posts we've exchanged messages about SM hanging ... consuming every last CPU bit, etc. I just did a total re-install of Windows 7 Pro. The first time I fired up SM mail? It took over the CPU and the system. Others have commented with similar issues. I've been using this product and its ancestors since around 1994. I'm a loyal user. And I'm going to have to go find another solution because this one, much as I like it, is broken... as is Thunderbird. It's something in the mail/news component of the products. I have the same issue when trying a Firefox and Tbird combo ... if it worked I would have (grudgingly ) moved to that. No *!@*!@# The system just locked up for 20 seconds while I'm typing this!!! Screw this. Been going on for about a year and a half. I'm done. By the way, it's not just locking up SM, it's locking up my whole system. I cannot abide this. Oh, God!!! I may have to invoke ... oh, please no ... OUTLOOK! Cripes. I'm gonna go have a drink. I dunno what to do. Could it have anything to do with your Anti Virus? I know if my Kaspersky is doing anything and I try to use the mail it locks up. Just a thought. Thanks, no, tested, not an issue. Cripes. Just locked up for about 25 seconds while typing this reply. -- Ed Mullen http://edmullen.net/ You do not need a parachute to skydive. You only need a parachute to skydive twice. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM hangs the whole system
Ed Mullen wrote: JAS wrote: Ed Mullen wrote: Okay. I'm going to try to be as nice and calm as I can. In previous posts we've exchanged messages about SM hanging ... consuming every last CPU bit, etc. I just did a total re-install of Windows 7 Pro. The first time I fired up SM mail? It took over the CPU and the system. Others have commented with similar issues. I've been using this product and its ancestors since around 1994. I'm a loyal user. And I'm going to have to go find another solution because this one, much as I like it, is broken... as is Thunderbird. It's something in the mail/news component of the products. I have the same issue when trying a Firefox and Tbird combo ... if it worked I would have (grudgingly ) moved to that. No *!@*!@# The system just locked up for 20 seconds while I'm typing this!!! Screw this. Been going on for about a year and a half. I'm done. By the way, it's not just locking up SM, it's locking up my whole system. I cannot abide this. Oh, God!!! I may have to invoke ... oh, please no ... OUTLOOK! Cripes. I'm gonna go have a drink. I dunno what to do. Could it have anything to do with your Anti Virus? I know if my Kaspersky is doing anything and I try to use the mail it locks up. Just a thought. Thanks, no, tested, not an issue. Cripes. Just locked up for about 25 seconds while typing this reply. Start up Windows in 'Safe Mode with Networking' and then run Seamonkey and see what happens. -- Stan Gondek Multi Path Communications http://www.m-p-c.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM hangs the whole system
stango wrote:
Ed Mullen wrote:
JAS wrote:
Ed Mullen wrote:
Okay. I'm going to try to be as nice and calm as I can.
In previous posts we've exchanged messages about SM hanging ...
consuming every last CPU bit, etc.
I just did a total re-install of Windows 7 Pro.
The first time I fired up SM mail? It took over the CPU and the
system.
Others have commented with similar issues.
I've been using this product and its ancestors since around 1994. I'm
a loyal user. And I'm going to have to go find another solution
because this one, much as I like it, is broken... as is Thunderbird.
It's something in the mail/news component of the products. I have the
same issue when trying a Firefox and Tbird combo ... if it worked I
would have (grudgingly ) moved to that. No
*!@*!@#
The system just locked up for 20 seconds while I'm typing this!!!
Screw this. Been going on for about a year and a half. I'm done.
By the way, it's not just locking up SM, it's locking up my whole
system.
I cannot abide this. Oh, God!!! I may have to invoke ... oh, please
no ... OUTLOOK!
Cripes. I'm gonna go have a drink. I dunno what to do.
Could it have anything to do with your Anti Virus? I know if my
Kaspersky is doing anything and I try to use the mail it locks up. Just
a thought.
Thanks, no, tested, not an issue. Cripes. Just locked up for about 25
seconds while typing this reply.
Start up Windows in 'Safe Mode with Networking' and then run Seamonkey
and see what happens.
Once I get my re-install of W7 sorted out I will do that. Thanks for
the suggestion.
However, I doubt that's the answer (although ('m more than willing to be
surprised!). With SM NOT running at all I do not have this issue on the
system. Nothing else hangs. Only SM and only when Mail/News is
running. And also when Thunderbird is running and nothing else. It's
something in the Mail/News core. As I mentioned before I was
considering moving to Firefox and Thunderbird and quitting SM. So I
tested it. As soon as I ran TB the problem arose.
And, somtimes, it hangs the whole system. Can't toggle windows, click
on the Taskbar, etc. Sometimes the SM windows (all of them) will either
grey out or go totally blank for 5, 10, 15 seconds or more, their title
bars say a Windows message of SeaMonkey is not responding, but
eventually their video refreshes (like now!!!) and the windows are back
to normal. and I can hear the PC fans ramp up and go wild as the CPU
usage skyrockets.
Almost seems like an interaction between my video card/drivers and SM.
But I've been using this same card and drive since I upgraded to W7 in
October '09. Just started this nonsense about 18 months ago. And it's
getting worse.
However, as I've said, no other apps cause anything like this on this
system. Nor no other combination of apps. And it isn't happening on
any of my other three systems in the house.
This is maddening!
BTW, I just clicked Send on this. The fans in my PC went nuts, SM
froze. I opened Task Manager and SM CPU usage was crazy. It's settle
down now, allowing me to type this.
--
Ed Mullen
http://edmullen.net/
Part of the inhumanity of the computer is that, once it is competently
programmed and working smoothly, it is completely honest. - Isaac Asimov
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Re: SM hangs the whole system
Ed Mullen wrote:
stango wrote:
Ed Mullen wrote:
JAS wrote:
Ed Mullen wrote:
Okay. I'm going to try to be as nice and calm as I can.
In previous posts we've exchanged messages about SM hanging ...
consuming every last CPU bit, etc.
I just did a total re-install of Windows 7 Pro.
The first time I fired up SM mail? It took over the CPU and the
system.
Others have commented with similar issues.
I've been using this product and its ancestors since around 1994. I'm
a loyal user. And I'm going to have to go find another solution
because this one, much as I like it, is broken... as is Thunderbird.
It's something in the mail/news component of the products. I have the
same issue when trying a Firefox and Tbird combo ... if it worked I
would have (grudgingly ) moved to that. No
*!@*!@#
The system just locked up for 20 seconds while I'm typing this!!!
Screw this. Been going on for about a year and a half. I'm done.
By the way, it's not just locking up SM, it's locking up my whole
system.
I cannot abide this. Oh, God!!! I may have to invoke ... oh, please
no ... OUTLOOK!
Cripes. I'm gonna go have a drink. I dunno what to do.
Could it have anything to do with your Anti Virus? I know if my
Kaspersky is doing anything and I try to use the mail it locks up. Just
a thought.
Thanks, no, tested, not an issue. Cripes. Just locked up for about 25
seconds while typing this reply.
Start up Windows in 'Safe Mode with Networking' and then run Seamonkey
and see what happens.
Once I get my re-install of W7 sorted out I will do that. Thanks for
the suggestion.
However, I doubt that's the answer (although ('m more than willing to be
surprised!). With SM NOT running at all I do not have this issue on the
system. Nothing else hangs. Only SM and only when Mail/News is
running. And also when Thunderbird is running and nothing else. It's
something in the Mail/News core. As I mentioned before I was
considering moving to Firefox and Thunderbird and quitting SM. So I
tested it. As soon as I ran TB the problem arose.
And, somtimes, it hangs the whole system. Can't toggle windows, click
on the Taskbar, etc. Sometimes the SM windows (all of them) will either
grey out or go totally blank for 5, 10, 15 seconds or more, their title
bars say a Windows message of SeaMonkey is not responding, but
eventually their video refreshes (like now!!!) and the windows are back
to normal. and I can hear the PC fans ramp up and go wild as the CPU
usage skyrockets.
Almost seems like an interaction between my video card/drivers and SM.
But I've been using this same card and drive since I upgraded to W7 in
October '09. Just started this nonsense about 18 months ago. And it's
getting worse.
However, as I've said, no other apps cause anything like this on this
system. Nor no other combination of apps. And it isn't happening on
any of my other three systems in the house.
This is maddening!
BTW, I just clicked Send on this. The fans in my PC went nuts, SM
froze. I opened Task Manager and SM CPU usage was crazy. It's settle
down now, allowing me to type this.
The fact that the problem is only encountered when mail/news are/is
active suggests that something is actively monitoring those functions
and in doing so causes an apparent Seamonkey 'hang' by removing the
focus from Seamonkey while some checking is being performed (thus the
cpu usage) which results in greyed-out options and the 'not responding'
indication.
As you have experienced, if you wait long enough, the focus comes back
to Seamonkey and all is well. That is why the suggestion to run windows
in 'Safe Mode with Networking' to eliminate most possibilities that it
is a Windows security function causing the problem.
--
Stan Gondek
Multi Path Communications
http://www.m-p-c.com
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Re: SM hangs the whole system
Miles Fidelman wrote: JAS wrote: Ed Mullen wrote: Okay. I'm going to try to be as nice and calm as I can. In previous posts we've exchanged messages about SM hanging ... consuming every last CPU bit, etc. I just did a total re-install of Windows 7 Pro. The first time I fired up SM mail? It took over the CPU and the system. Others have commented with similar issues. I've been using this product and its ancestors since around 1994. I'm a loyal user. And I'm going to have to go find another solution because this one, much as I like it, is broken... as is Thunderbird. It's something in the mail/news component of the products. I have the same issue when trying a Firefox and Tbird combo ... if it worked I would have (grudgingly ) moved to that. No *!@*!@# The system just locked up for 20 seconds while I'm typing this!!! Screw this. Been going on for about a year and a half. I'm done. By the way, it's not just locking up SM, it's locking up my whole system. I cannot abide this. Oh, God!!! I may have to invoke ... oh, please no ... OUTLOOK! Cripes. I'm gonna go have a drink. I dunno what to do. Could it have anything to do with your Anti Virus? I know if my Kaspersky is doing anything and I try to use the mail it locks up. Just a thought. Well, it seems to do it on a Mac as well, and I'm not running an antivirus. One funny I've noticed, is that every once in a while Seamonkey seem to kill smartd, after which my system will hang for 30 seconds at a time until smartd is restarted. Very weird interaction. This isn't happening with 2.13.1 on any of my Macs...and I'm running Norton AV. -- - Rufus ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM hangs the whole system
Miles Fidelman wrote: JAS wrote: Ed Mullen wrote: Okay. I'm going to try to be as nice and calm as I can. In previous posts we've exchanged messages about SM hanging ... consuming every last CPU bit, etc. I just did a total re-install of Windows 7 Pro. The first time I fired up SM mail? It took over the CPU and the system. Others have commented with similar issues. I've been using this product and its ancestors since around 1994. I'm a loyal user. And I'm going to have to go find another solution because this one, much as I like it, is broken... as is Thunderbird. It's something in the mail/news component of the products. I have the same issue when trying a Firefox and Tbird combo ... if it worked I would have (grudgingly ) moved to that. No *!@*!@# The system just locked up for 20 seconds while I'm typing this!!! Screw this. Been going on for about a year and a half. I'm done. By the way, it's not just locking up SM, it's locking up my whole system. I cannot abide this. Oh, God!!! I may have to invoke ... oh, please no ... OUTLOOK! Cripes. I'm gonna go have a drink. I dunno what to do. Could it have anything to do with your Anti Virus? I know if my Kaspersky is doing anything and I try to use the mail it locks up. Just a thought. Well, it seems to do it on a Mac as well, and I'm not running an antivirus. One funny I've noticed, is that every once in a while Seamonkey seem to kill smartd, after which my system will hang for 30 seconds at a time until smartd is restarted. Very weird interaction. This is very odd. I'm on the Mac and I cannot remember the last time SeaMonkey has acted up or crashed. SeaMonkey, for me, has been rock solid and crash/bug free. I would rate SeaMonkey 10/10 for stability. I am using a late 2006 24 iMac running 10.7.5 2.1.6 Ghz Core2Duo with 2 GB memory. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM hangs the whole system
Ed Mullen There are two things that may (or may not) be causing the trouble you are experiencing with Seamonkey 1. Add ons and 2. corruption in your user profile. First try staring Seamonkey in safe mode which disables all your add ons-open the browser and under the help menu click on restart with Add-ons Disabled. Now open mail. If this solves the problem one of your add-ons is causing a problem with mail. If disabling add-ons does not work you may have a corruption with your user profile. Before you do anything with your user profile make a backup copy the user profile to another directory (preferably to an external hard disk). Delete your user profile (you did make a backup to restore to, right? if the profile is not causing the problem.) Open the browser and under the Tools menu click on switch profile and create a new profile. Using the newly created profile open mail. Does mail open as expected and function properly? If so there is some corruption with the older user profile you backed up and it is causing Mail to act weird and crash. If neither of these suggestions solve the problems you are having, I'm sorry but I don't know what else to suggest. :( ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
