Creating New eMail Accounts in 2.162
Hello all, as I was having challenges with fetching emails for yahoo, I decided to add a new email account in SM 2.162 to only find that it will only create newsgroup accounts and not email. Any ideas as to what is going on with this? I currently have eight email accounts in SM and six newsgroups. Is eight the limit? Trying this on my desktop using win 8. TIA - Bo1953 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Usenet in SM
Jim G. wrote: Daniel sent the following on Sat, 16 Mar 2013 20:19:02 +1100: Jim G. wrote: Snip Yep. And what time is devoted to things will probably be on the email side of things, as most people under 35 have probably never even heard of USENET. Once in a while, I take a look at the web boards on a place like Reddit and laugh that kids today think that that's a better way to communicate and exchange ideas online. Oh, well... Please forgive my ignorance but what's Reddit?? ;-) The new(er) Digg. It's basically a big news-gathering and -sharing playground for 20-something-year-old guys and other guys who wish that they were still 20-something. Thanks, still don't know, but I'm now pretty sure I don't need to know!! -- Daniel User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:20.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.17 Build identifier: 20130224181913 or User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686 on x86_64; rv:20.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/20.0 SeaMonkey/2.17 Build identifier: 20130224182221 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Need help to transfer all SM 2.16.2 emails, address books to a new Windows 7 O/S PC
cqbrodie wrote: Hi! I have an old windows XP with svc pk3 PC (32 bit) and a new PC with windows 7 (64bit). How can I transfer all 4 separate email accounts address books from one PC to another. thanks for any help Cliff Cliff, one way of doing it would be to set up SM on your new computer and give it the four profiles, if you still need them (Tools-Switch Profiles-Manage Profiles-Create Profiles) and, on the second screen, where you give a name to each profile, put the profile wherever you want. Then, make use of MozBackup, downloadable from http://sourceforge.net/projects/mozbackup/, install it on both systems, use it to archive your current profiles, copy them to your new system and use MozBackup to extract the profiles to the locations you selected when installing SM on the new system. HTH! -- Daniel User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:20.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.17 Build identifier: 20130224181913 or User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686 on x86_64; rv:20.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/20.0 SeaMonkey/2.17 Build identifier: 20130224182221 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Preferences dialogs
Rufus n...@home.com wrote: However, external usenet servers cannot be configured because the network does not allow connections from the workstations to the internet. (browsing is via a proxy server) Most business networks at least have a firewall. In my environment it would be possible to get around that because of how we configure...and most certainly for an employee that took his issue laptop home and operated on/from/with his own home net ISP - which we have ways to do, for work from home. That is actually quite dangerous. When you value the integrity of the network, you should not allow the end-users to install software and change network settings to have direct connections to the internet. It is practically unavoidable to get malware that way. When our users take their laptop home, they connect to the company via a VPN and all activity is via the company proxy and firewall, so all scanning and filtering is in effect. Users are not administrators of their laptop. The firewall on the laptop does not allow any internet traffic except to our VPN server. When personal devices are taken into the company, they cannot connect to the LAN. They can use the WiFi to connect to the internet, and there they can use the access to applications that is available for internet users (like webmail). This isolation is very important. Many companies who did not do this have been in the news as having been hacked. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Preferences dialogs
Rufus n...@home.com wrote: Philip Chee wrote: On Tue, 19 Mar 2013 15:32:44 -1000, Geoff Welsh wrote: Ray_Net wrote: GW (who loves Tabs even more than sliced bread) I love tabs too. But I think sliced bread is slightly more edible. Phil I prefer to slice my own bread, but I really wish I could open Mail/News in a Tab instead of a window...and I seem to recall someone saying there is an existing SM roadmap item to to just that. There are never enough preferences. I like tabs in the browser and I don't like the fact that the tab bar disappears when only one tab is open. There is a pref to force it to always show the tabs, but it works both in the browser and the mail/news. I don't want tabs in mail/news except maybe when mail/news would be a tab in the browser. So there should now at least be 3 prefs: one to force tabs in the browser, one to do it in te mail, and one to make mail/news a tab in the browser. When there are checkmarks for all those things, many users would be overwhelmed and some types of users just toggle checkmarks semi-randomly to see what they do. When they don't see an immediate effect they leave it as is and later are faced with a change they don't know how to undo. I think that is what the article is about. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Creating New eMail Accounts in 2.162
ss wrote: Hello all, as I was having challenges with fetching emails for yahoo, I decided to add a new email account in SM 2.162 to only find that it will only create newsgroup accounts and not email. Any ideas as to what is going on with this? I currently have eight email accounts in SM and six newsgroups. Is eight the limit? Trying this on my desktop using win 8. TIA - Bo1953 SS, no, eight is not the limit, it's just that SM has a problem in that it thinks once you've set up your first news account, all following accounts will be news!! However, SS, back on 24 Jan 2013, in the thread Can't add second email account, NoOp replied to a similar question Quote Unfortunately it's an old issue: http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.15/#issues After creating a news account through clicking a news URL, the MailNews account wizard may be broken (the account type will always be News). To work around the problem, set the mail.server.serverX.valid pref (where X is the internal number of the corresponding news account) to true in about:config, or delete the invalid news account (bug 521861). https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=521861 [ After creating news account through clicking news URL Account Wizard is broken (skips account type selection, bound to invalid news account)] End Quote HTH -- Daniel User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:20.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.17 Build identifier: 20130224181913 or User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686 on x86_64; rv:20.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/20.0 SeaMonkey/2.17 Build identifier: 20130224182221 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: message with some char baldly displayed
Dne pondělí, 18. března 2013 11:15:38 UTC+1 cyberzen napsal(a): hi, a message received from AOL 9.0 VR sub 5200 shows some chars badly displayed I tried to change the encoding with no success But curiously the print preview is fine with ctrl U : Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have no explanation -- cyberzen Hi, I have similar problem: - messages from various sender (no AOL :-) - diacritics in message panel is broken but in Print preview, Reply, Forward, View Message Source - diacritics is correct Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:19.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/19.0 SeaMonkey/2.16.2 Previous versions of SeaMonkey were OK... ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
SMTP stopped working
smtp.comcast.net stopped connecting... email is still received o.k... Thi happened on 3 PCs running Seamonkey and Windows 7.. What can be done to fix ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Need help to transfer all SM 2.16.2 emails, address books to a new Windows 7 O/S PC
Daniel wrote: cqbrodie wrote: Then, make use of MozBackup, downloadable from http://sourceforge.net/projects/mozbackup/, install it on both systems, use it to archive your current profiles, copy them to your new system and use MozBackup to extract the profiles to the locations you selected when installing SM on the new system. You are working too hard. A profile is just a sub-directory. Copy it to wherever you want, and name it whatever you want. Then in Create Profile Chose Folder, select that sub-directory. Ray ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Usenet in SM
Jim G. wrote: David E. Ross sent the following on Fri, 15 Mar 2013 17:55:51 -0700: On 3/15/13 12:53 PM, Jim G. wrote [in part]: I suspect that very few people run multiple profiles, so I can see why that might also be a low priority item. Certainly no one I know outside of the tech field does, anyway. I prefer to run with images and cookies restricted to the domain of the page I am viewing and with no popups. However, four financial institutions with which I have accounts require unrestricted images, cookies, and popups. So I access my financial accounts in a separate profile. Fair enough. For stuff requiring additional security or Java, I use a separate profile, too. But it's also a different browser. Yeah, I use Firefox and some additional add-ons for stuff like that. :) I also have a guest profile for my adult son and daughter for when they visit. Again, fair enough. But I don't know anyone who would visit me without bringing his or her own machine along, so it's never been an issue. Ditto all of this for my wife's installation of SeaMonkey on her PC. In any case, it's worth noting that profiles still work, even if a graphic somewhere is old and inconsistent with the new look. It's also worth noting that you're here, which means that you're probably not the typical SeaMonkey user, as that person is probably completely unaware that this support group even exists, let alone how to access it via SeaMonkey. So how you handle things is likely to be very different from how the average user handles them. -- ~gertjan http://vinkestijn.info mailto:g.j.f.vinkeste...@hotmail.es home:http://www.ciudadpatricia.com Fedora Linux Version 18 ps. [gerardjan@gershwin seamonkey]$ fortune -l Modern psychology takes completely for granted that behavior and neural function are perfectly correlated, that one is completely caused by the other. There is no separate soul or lifeforce to stick a finger into the brain now and then and make neural cells do what they would not otherwise. Actually, of course, this is a working assumption only. ... It is quite conceivable that someday the assumption will have to be rejected. But it is important also to see that we have not reached that day yet: the working assumption is a necessary one and there is no real evidence opposed to it. Our failure to solve a problem so far does not make it insoluble. One cannot logically be a determinist in physics and biology, and a mystic in psychology. -- D.O. Hebb, Organization of Behavior: A Neuropsychological Theory, 1949 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Preferences dialogs
Rob wrote: Rufus n...@home.com wrote: However, external usenet servers cannot be configured because the network does not allow connections from the workstations to the internet. (browsing is via a proxy server) Most business networks at least have a firewall. In my environment it would be possible to get around that because of how we configure...and most certainly for an employee that took his issue laptop home and operated on/from/with his own home net ISP - which we have ways to do, for work from home. That is actually quite dangerous. When you value the integrity of the network, you should not allow the end-users to install software and change network settings to have direct connections to the internet. It is practically unavoidable to get malware that way. Which is and will always be a real concern if one allows the user to roam with a mobile device, and why we can only get Firefox from our own internal servers. Even though we can grab pictures, .pdfs, etc. from about anywhere. Which yes - is another hole. When our users take their laptop home, they connect to the company via a VPN and all activity is via the company proxy and firewall, so all scanning and filtering is in effect. Users are not administrators of their laptop. The firewall on the laptop does not allow any internet traffic except to our VPN server. ...and there's an additional issue if you also allow the user to access your VPN using their home machine - which is why there can still be holes in a roaming situation, IMO. When personal devices are taken into the company, they cannot connect to the LAN. They can use the WiFi to connect to the internet, and there they can use the access to applications that is available for internet users (like webmail). We don't allow personal devices on our premises. Period. They have to be left in at home, or in the car. It *is* possible for internal users to access webmail, but we're on our honor not to do so. This isolation is very important. Many companies who did not do this have been in the news as having been hacked. Yup. Because there is *always* a way in if someone targets you hard. -- - Rufus ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Preferences dialogs
Rob wrote: Rufus n...@home.com wrote: Philip Chee wrote: On Tue, 19 Mar 2013 15:32:44 -1000, Geoff Welsh wrote: Ray_Net wrote: GW (who loves Tabs even more than sliced bread) I love tabs too. But I think sliced bread is slightly more edible. Phil I prefer to slice my own bread, but I really wish I could open Mail/News in a Tab instead of a window...and I seem to recall someone saying there is an existing SM roadmap item to to just that. There are never enough preferences. I like tabs in the browser and I don't like the fact that the tab bar disappears when only one tab is open. There is a pref to force it to always show the tabs, but it works both in the browser and the mail/news. I don't want tabs in mail/news except maybe when mail/news would be a tab in the browser. So there should now at least be 3 prefs: one to force tabs in the browser, one to do it in te mail, and one to make mail/news a tab in the browser. Agreed! When there are checkmarks for all those things, many users would be overwhelmed and some types of users just toggle checkmarks semi-randomly to see what they do. When they don't see an immediate effect they leave it as is and later are faced with a change they don't know how to undo. I think that is what the article is about. ...and a big reason why I like the Opera about:config reset to defaults implementation. -- - Rufus ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Preferences dialogs
Rufus n...@home.com wrote: When our users take their laptop home, they connect to the company via a VPN and all activity is via the company proxy and firewall, so all scanning and filtering is in effect. Users are not administrators of their laptop. The firewall on the laptop does not allow any internet traffic except to our VPN server. ...and there's an additional issue if you also allow the user to access your VPN using their home machine - which is why there can still be holes in a roaming situation, IMO. Of course we don't allow that. And users cannot do it themselves because they cannot generate the required certificate that will be trusted. There really are two worlds: the managed PCs that are part of the domain and completely locked down (including the laptops that can roam but only to connect to the company network via VPN), and the private unmanaged PCs that can only access applications via the internet, and these are either web apps (like webmail) or Citrix ICA. The ICA sessions do not map local resources, they are only screen/keyboard/mouse sessions. When personal devices are taken into the company, they cannot connect to the LAN. They can use the WiFi to connect to the internet, and there they can use the access to applications that is available for internet users (like webmail). We don't allow personal devices on our premises. Period. They have to be left in at home, or in the car. It *is* possible for internal users to access webmail, but we're on our honor not to do so. It has been like that for a long time, and for employees of the company it is unusual to bring their own equipment, but it is quite customary for consultants, accountants etc to bring their own laptop and I am amazed how often they don't have their own mobile internet and depend on the local WiFi. One time it has happened that an accountant came in with a trojaned laptop that was sending spam. He knew about it but could not get it fixed himself. Those people have long lists of requirements for IT security certification, but they have their laptops unprotected. We now have a different accountant. This isolation is very important. Many companies who did not do this have been in the news as having been hacked. Yup. Because there is *always* a way in if someone targets you hard. I have read about many cases where the entry was made possible by lousy system administration, including having the users operate as administrator or power user, allowing the execution of programs from other places than local directories the user cannot write to, allowing the download or mailing of executable programs, not installing hotfixes, etc etc. It may be true that you cannot detect and prevent *everything*, but in my opinion that is no excuse for doing nothing. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SMTP stopped working
user@domain.invalid wrote: smtp.comcast.net stopped connecting... email is still received o.k... Thi happened on 3 PCs running Seamonkey and Windows 7.. What can be done to fix Call Comcast and ask them what the hell is going on. Problem is in the server, nothing else you can do about it. -- Jaime A. Cruz Secretary Nassau Wings Motorcycle Club http://www.nassauwings.org/ AMA District 34 http://www.AMADistrict34.com/ Pop's Run http://www.popsrun.org/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SMTP stopped working
Cruz, Jaime wrote: user@domain.invalid wrote: smtp.comcast.net stopped connecting... email is still received o.k... Thi happened on 3 PCs running Seamonkey and Windows 7.. What can be done to fix Call Comcast and ask them what the hell is going on. Problem is in the server, nothing else you can do about it. Yes, ask them for the correct settings -- ISPs sometimes change them and users don't always pay attention to the notices. But don't tell them you use SeaMonkey, many ISPs will throw up their hands and refuse to talk to you if you do. Just ask generic questions such as what is the correct port? that can be answered without reference to your email client. -- War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left. -- Paul B. Gallagher ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SMTP stopped working
Paul B. Gallagher wrote: But don't tell them you use SeaMonkey, many ISPs will throw up their hands and refuse to talk to you if you do. But if they *do* ask, say Outlook Express!;-) -- -bts -This space for rent, but the price is high ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Preferences dialogs
Geoff Welsh wrote, On 20/03/2013 02:32: Ray_Net wrote: An example of the huge list of option to be positionned: I hate tabs - and it would be very nice to have an option that says [ ] use tabs If that box is unchecked, all other tab options should be disabled and greyed. By simply not opening any tabs, isn't one inherently selecting that (imaginary) selection? Or have you found some way to accidentally open tabs that pisses you off? GW (who loves Tabs even more than sliced bread) I really don't need tabs because in my taskbar, when my mouse go over the the SM icon, windows7 show me all the opened windows with long title text - this is not the case with tabs. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Creating New eMail Accounts in 2.162
Daniel wrote, On 20/03/2013 10:39: ss wrote: Hello all, as I was having challenges with fetching emails for yahoo, I decided to add a new email account in SM 2.162 to only find that it will only create newsgroup accounts and not email. Any ideas as to what is going on with this? I currently have eight email accounts in SM and six newsgroups. Is eight the limit? Trying this on my desktop using win 8. TIA - Bo1953 SS, no, eight is not the limit, it's just that SM has a problem in that it thinks once you've set up your first news account, all following accounts will be news!! However, SS, back on 24 Jan 2013, in the thread Can't add second email account, NoOp replied to a similar question Quote Unfortunately it's an old issue: http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.15/#issues After creating a news account through clicking a news URL, the MailNews account wizard may be broken (the account type will always be News). To work around the problem, set the mail.server.serverX.valid pref (where X is the internal number of the corresponding news account) to true in about:config, or delete the invalid news account (bug 521861). https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=521861 [ After creating news account through clicking news URL Account Wizard is broken (skips account type selection, bound to invalid news account)] End Quote HTH Nobody want to correct this bug ? Developpers think with that bug not corrected that SM is a GOOD product ? How many votes is needed to have the bug corrected ? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SMTP stopped working
Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote, On 20/03/2013 22:25: Paul B. Gallagher wrote: But don't tell them you use SeaMonkey, many ISPs will throw up their hands and refuse to talk to you if you do. But if they *do* ask, say Outlook Express!;-) He could also say that he had followed the comcast instructions here: http://customer.comcast.com/help-and-support/internet/setting-up-outlook-2010/ But on the comcast site i found also http://customer.comcast.com/help-and-support/internet/configure-outlook-express-xfinity-internet with a different setting for the smtp part. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: message with some char baldly displayed
tuxi...@gmail.com wrote, On 20/03/2013 12:33: Dne pondělí, 18. března 2013 11:15:38 UTC+1 cyberzen napsal(a): hi, a message received from AOL 9.0 VR sub 5200 shows some chars badly displayed I tried to change the encoding with no success But curiously the print preview is fine with ctrl U : Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have no explanation -- cyberzen Hi, I have similar problem: - messages from various sender (no AOL :-) - diacritics in message panel is broken but in Print preview, Reply, Forward, View Message Source - diacritics is correct Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:19.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/19.0 SeaMonkey/2.16.2 Previous versions of SeaMonkey were OK... Did you say that this problem is another SM one ? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SMTP stopped working
Ray_Net wrote: Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote, On 20/03/2013 22:25: Paul B. Gallagher wrote: But don't tell them you use SeaMonkey, many ISPs will throw up their hands and refuse to talk to you if you do. But if they *do* ask, say Outlook Express!;-) He could also say that he had followed the comcast instructions here: http://customer.comcast.com/help-and-support/internet/setting-up-outlook-2010/ But on the comcast site i found also http://customer.comcast.com/help-and-support/internet/configure-outlook-express-xfinity-internet with a different setting for the smtp part. I just tested this using the following: openssl s_client -connect smtp.comcast.net:465 This did connect to the server and after a few seconds I got the prompt: 220 omta20.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net comcast ESMTP server ready So it appears that you want port 465 with SSL/TLS specified for the connection security. Dave ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Preferences dialogs
Rob wrote: Rufus n...@home.com wrote: When our users take their laptop home, they connect to the company via a VPN and all activity is via the company proxy and firewall, so all scanning and filtering is in effect. Users are not administrators of their laptop. The firewall on the laptop does not allow any internet traffic except to our VPN server. ...and there's an additional issue if you also allow the user to access your VPN using their home machine - which is why there can still be holes in a roaming situation, IMO. Of course we don't allow that. And users cannot do it themselves because they cannot generate the required certificate that will be trusted. There really are two worlds: the managed PCs that are part of the domain and completely locked down (including the laptops that can roam but only to connect to the company network via VPN), and the private unmanaged PCs that can only access applications via the internet, and these are either web apps (like webmail) or Citrix ICA. The ICA sessions do not map local resources, they are only screen/keyboard/mouse sessions. What do you do for business travel? We're stuck between total lock-down, and reliance on a combination of user vigilance and certificates. But the user is allowed enough freedom to access the open web...managed or not. This is where SM's usenet ability is a problem for us, IMO...and why Firefox is ok, but SM is not. Outlook can be locked down, but not so with SM...at least not as far as I can see. When personal devices are taken into the company, they cannot connect to the LAN. They can use the WiFi to connect to the internet, and there they can use the access to applications that is available for internet users (like webmail). We don't allow personal devices on our premises. Period. They have to be left in at home, or in the car. It *is* possible for internal users to access webmail, but we're on our honor not to do so. It has been like that for a long time, and for employees of the company it is unusual to bring their own equipment, but it is quite customary for consultants, accountants etc to bring their own laptop and I am amazed how often they don't have their own mobile internet and depend on the local WiFi. We're experimenting in limited areas with using iPads...I *REALLY* wish I could use an iPad on the job, but so far I think everyone is still scratching their heads as to how to secure both the device and corporate wifi. One time it has happened that an accountant came in with a trojaned laptop that was sending spam. He knew about it but could not get it fixed himself. Those people have long lists of requirements for IT security certification, but they have their laptops unprotected. We now have a different accountant. External (non-owned) devices are simply not allowed to connect in any manner, in our case. This isolation is very important. Many companies who did not do this have been in the news as having been hacked. Yup. Because there is *always* a way in if someone targets you hard. I have read about many cases where the entry was made possible by lousy system administration, including having the users operate as administrator or power user, allowing the execution of programs from other places than local directories the user cannot write to, allowing the download or mailing of executable programs, not installing hotfixes, etc etc. It may be true that you cannot detect and prevent *everything*, but in my opinion that is no excuse for doing nothing. Yup. But no matter what you do, someone else will eventually out-do you. So your only real defense is to remain vigilant. -- - Rufus ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Very Slow Browsing
I am using SM 2.16.2 with Windows 7 Pro. Browsing the internet or loading of images by email messages has become very slow on my system. A page that may load in 5 sec. in Internet Explorer can take 30+ seconds in Seamonkey. I also notice the busy indicator next to the cursor in SM Mail is spinning almost constantly. What might be causes and solutions for this slow performance? -- C. Bankston ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Very Slow Browsing
On 03/20/2013 09:01 PM, Cecil Bankston wrote: I am using SM 2.16.2 with Windows 7 Pro. Browsing the internet or loading of images by email messages has become very slow on my system. A page that may load in 5 sec. in Internet Explorer can take 30+ seconds in Seamonkey. I also notice the busy indicator next to the cursor in SM Mail is spinning almost constantly. What might be causes and solutions for this slow performance? Busy Cursor is a known issue. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=727414 Follow standard troubleshooting procedure to see if that helps the lag. http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.1/#troubleshooting -- openSUSE 12.3 (64-bit) KDE 4.10.0 Thunderbird Release I got nothing to say, but I'll say it anyway. openSUSE 12.3 rocks! Easiest install I ever did. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Usenet in SM
On 3/19/2013 12:40 PM PT, Jim G. typed: Yep. And what time is devoted to things will probably be on the email side of things, as most people under 35 have probably never even heard of USENET. Once in a while, I take a look at the web boards on a place like Reddit and laugh that kids today think that that's a better way to communicate and exchange ideas online. Oh, well... Please forgive my ignorance but what's Reddit?? ;-) The new(er) Digg. It's basically a big news-gathering and -sharing playground for 20-something-year-old guys and other guys who wish that they were still 20-something. I used to use Digg until they went downhill withi its v4 and revamped the whole thing. I switched to Reddit like most Diggers. I still use newsgroups/usenet, /., IRC, text based programs, SSH2, etc. :) -- For an ant to have wings would be his (her) undoing. --Iranian /\___/\ Ant(Dude) @ http://antfarm.ma.cx (Personal Web Site) / /\ /\ \Ant's Quality Foraged Links: http://aqfl.net | |o o| | \ _ /If crediting, then use Ant nickname and AQFL URL/link. ( ) If e-mailing, then axe ANT from its address if needed. Ant is currently not listening to any songs on this computer. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey