Re: webmaster : please add a reply-to field

[Ed Mullen]

Rick Merrill wrote:

sean nathan wrote:

andré wrote, On 11/16/2013 04:29 AM:

Suggestion to simplify interaction with the list :

The current configuration of the list shows the poster as the sender.
So if someone replies to a message, by default it goes (only) to the
sender, and not the list.  (reply-to-all also goes only to the sender.)
To correct this, there should be a reply-to line, which means a reply by
default (only) goes to the list.
With a reply-to line, reply-to-all will go to the list + the sender.



I read this via newsgroup in Seamonkey. When I choose to reply, I'm
offered a choice
of replying to the newsgroup or sender only.




If I pick "reply all" I can send to newsgroup AND sender.




Which means that I get emails from people that are referring to messages 
that I might never have read in the newsgroup/list.  A real waste of 
time trying to sort out.  Or,if threads I'm involved in, I now have TWO 
points of involvement when I only want one.


Just post to the list/newsgroup and leave it at that.  REPLY *not* REPLY 
ALL.  Please!



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Re: What theme do you use?

[Ant]

On 11/26/2013 11:33 PM PT, Ed Mullen typed:


What theme do you use?  Default? Modern?  Or some add-on?

I have used the Modern theme since it was introduced ... uh ... how many
many years ago?


Modern theme too. Didn't Netscape use it too? I haven't seen any third 
party themes that look good. I never liked the default one. Modern is 
the best IMO.

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Re: New query, "send to mail recipient option"

[azed13]

azed13 wrote:

Jens Hatlak wrote:

azed13 wrote:

Has a workaround been found for the failure of Seamonkey Mail Client to
open when "send to mail recipient" is selected for images, etc. 2.22.1
still opens a new browser page not mail.


Unfortunately there is no workaround (other than manually attaching
files from disk). It might be fixed in SM 2.23, but we will only know
for sure once SM 2.23 Beta 1 is released and receives some testing.

HTH

Jens


Thanks Jens:

How safe is it to install an older release and must I get rid of all
2.22.1 or will an older version install over it? I've never had a
profile problem and would not like to do something that might create one
for me. Waiting for the new 2.23 is really holding things up. Like
another poster, I use Picasa a lot because it automatically converts
images to a size that the mail servers have no problems with.

azed13


Correction, if you happen to read the 2.22.1 Install nag thread I 
started I did have a profile problem many years back. my comments in 
that thread can explain my concerns. I think it was still Netscape at 
that time, but I could be wrong.


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Re: 2.22.1 Install nag: Did not install.....!!

[azed13]

David E. Ross wrote:

On 11/26/2013 10:22 PM, azed13 wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:

On 11/26/2013 4:40 PM, azed13 wrote:

I checked for the latest update and allowed Seamonkey to download the
update and install. I never do that, preferring to download the file and
do a manual install.

The instructions are to restart Seamonkey for the update to be
installed. I did that and got the message that "the update could not be
installed because Seamonkey is already running, etc." and a new
Seamonkey browser opens immediately after closing the message. I
restarted Seamonkey several times and the message just repeats.

I decided to do my usual and download the latest update, installed it
with high hopes. No joy! Every time I start Seamonkey I get the nag. Can
anyone tell me the name of the auto update file and where it might have
been downloaded to my computer?

I would like to find it and kill it. I have no wish to keep seeing this
message for an eternity. Thanks in advance,

azed13

BTW; a check with Windows "Task Manager" does not find any Seamonkey
session open except the one that displays the message.



In the Task Manager, did you look on the Processes tab for
"seamonkey.exe" or only on the Applications tab for "SeaMonkey"?


I did look in processes, only the current instance, ending the process
closed the current browser. No others were listed.



That is what I have been seeing, not with installs but generally.  It is
sporadic, about 1/4 of the time.

See the thread "SeaMonkey Shutdown" (started 25 Nov 2013) in this
newsgroup.


Thanks David:

I read the thread but I'm not sure it is of any help. My system has been 
shut down for almost 24 hours yet after booting up for a new session, I 
still got the nag when I opened Seamonkey. I'm not a programmer or 
"code" wise but it seems improbable that Seamonkey was running while 
everything was shut down without power. And, I'm not much for creating 
new profiles. It's been years since the last time I did that and it was 
a horrible experience including recovering all my mail and bookmark 
files. Why that happened I don't know but at this stage I'm really much 
too old to risk what works well for everything else. I'll keep an eye on 
that thread to see if anything else pops up.


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Re: New query, "send to mail recipient option"

[azed13]

Jens Hatlak wrote:

azed13 wrote:

Has a workaround been found for the failure of Seamonkey Mail Client to
open when "send to mail recipient" is selected for images, etc. 2.22.1
still opens a new browser page not mail.


Unfortunately there is no workaround (other than manually attaching
files from disk). It might be fixed in SM 2.23, but we will only know
for sure once SM 2.23 Beta 1 is released and receives some testing.

HTH

Jens


Thanks Jens:

How safe is it to install an older release and must I get rid of all 
2.22.1 or will an older version install over it? I've never had a 
profile problem and would not like to do something that might create one 
for me. Waiting for the new 2.23 is really holding things up. Like 
another poster, I use Picasa a lot because it automatically converts 
images to a size that the mail servers have no problems with.


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Re: Short screens

[Rufus]

Geoff Welsh wrote:

Daniel wrote:

Rufus wrote:

Daniel wrote:

Rufus wrote:

BIll Spikowski wrote:





I wish I had been paying more attention!

I'm not certain that the problem is new to 2.22; it's possible it
appeared back in 2.21.

Another complicating factor is that I sometimes wait a few weeks
before allowing SM to update. One extension that's critical to me,
Lightning (which lets me communicate with colleagues who use the
Outlook calendar), NEVER is ready when a SM update is released. I
think I understand why, and it's not something that SM can fix,
but it
sure wrecks my day-to-day user experience...




I first noticed it after after 2.13.1. It's been there at least that
long.


but you're on Mac, Rufus, so, apparently, it's different for Windows.




Actually I'm a bit unclear on that, given what I've been reading of
late. I think more Win users use the Default Theme and it doesn't sound
like it's been a problem there.

I myself had originally remarked that this was a Mac only problem, but
given that people on both platforms are now observing the problem, and
even pointed out to me one dialog Id missed it in just because of the
way I use SM, I have to think that if the problem is with the Theme
itself it was probably introduced to everyone at the same time/point.
It's just that more people are looking now. I think...


Rufus, as the result is the same (sub=windows being drawn short) is now
the same on Mac and Windows, I would expect the cause is the same, or at
least very similar.

Jens asked me to file a bug for Windows incarnation, so I did, and, it
would appear a solution is not far off.

Maybe a solution for Mac is just a little bit further off!! ;-)



according to the bug report, they are fixing the spell check dialog only

GW


...typical, I guess.  But I'd agree that opening a Win bug here is 
probably the right thing to do, though the "spot fix" doesn't really 
address what causes this to be seen elsewhere - I would think there is a 
relation.  Somewhere...


I think there's something more to this whole problem given that the 
implementation between Mac and PC are different - a drop dialog vs 
window - in this particular case of the Spell Check, and given that 
there isn't a problem with the Spell Check drop in the Mac version that 
I've seen.  But there is a general interface render problem - on both 
platforms.  That's really what needs addressing.


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Re: Opening links in different browser

[Geoff Welsh]

Charani wrote:

On Thu, 28 Nov 2013 00:05:02 +0530, regz91 wrote:


Use https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/addon/open-with/


Thanks.

Mmmm, "Not available for SeaMonkey 2.16" it says when opened in
SeaMonkey.  I run 2.16.


you should update

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Re: Short screens

[Geoff Welsh]

Daniel wrote:

Rufus wrote:

Daniel wrote:

Rufus wrote:

BIll Spikowski wrote:





I wish I had been paying more attention!

I'm not certain that the problem is new to 2.22; it's possible it
appeared back in 2.21.

Another complicating factor is that I sometimes wait a few weeks
before allowing SM to update. One extension that's critical to me,
Lightning (which lets me communicate with colleagues who use the
Outlook calendar), NEVER is ready when a SM update is released. I
think I understand why, and it's not something that SM can fix, but it
sure wrecks my day-to-day user experience...




I first noticed it after after 2.13.1. It's been there at least that
long.


but you're on Mac, Rufus, so, apparently, it's different for Windows.




Actually I'm a bit unclear on that, given what I've been reading of
late. I think more Win users use the Default Theme and it doesn't sound
like it's been a problem there.

I myself had originally remarked that this was a Mac only problem, but
given that people on both platforms are now observing the problem, and
even pointed out to me one dialog Id missed it in just because of the
way I use SM, I have to think that if the problem is with the Theme
itself it was probably introduced to everyone at the same time/point.
It's just that more people are looking now. I think...


Rufus, as the result is the same (sub=windows being drawn short) is now
the same on Mac and Windows, I would expect the cause is the same, or at
least very similar.

Jens asked me to file a bug for Windows incarnation, so I did, and, it
would appear a solution is not far off.

Maybe a solution for Mac is just a little bit further off!! ;-)



according to the bug report, they are fixing the spell check dialog only

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Re: What theme do you use?

[Geoff Welsh]

Ed Mullen wrote:

What theme do you use?  Default? Modern?  Or some add-on?



Modern, not that I can recall the difference or why, but I'm not about 
to mess with it after all these yrs.


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webmaster : please modify list headers

[andré]

Hi :
I recently suggested modifying the list headers to include a "reply-to" 
field to the list address, and there were changes which were a 
considerable improvement.

For that, thanks.

However the list address was added in a "for" field, which means that if 
a user simply clicks to reply, the reply is sent to the "sender" field 
address.  This is not the expected result for a public forum list, where 
the sender field contains the poster of the message.


So I suggest that the list address be changed to the "reply-to" field 
(instead of "for"), so that the default reply is to the list instead of 
the "sender".  Which is what is normally wanted.


(Then if a user wants to reply in private, they can select reply-to-all 
in their browser, and deselect the fields to which they don't want to 
reply.  This should be rarely wanted, considering the purpose of the list.)


Thanks in advance.

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Re: OT: Error code: sec_error_ocsp_invalid_signing_cert

[andré]

Philip Taylor a écrit :



Ed Mullen wrote:


Erness Wild wrote :


Thanks for the private emails, replies noted.



What?

You are participating in a public forum.  You asked for help. Someone
replied out of context.  Yet you come here and say thanks?

Post the solution HERE so that others may benefit from it.

Geez.


The replies were PRIVATE.  Mr Wild not only has no obligation
to publish the content of private e-mails, it would be an abuse
of privilege so to do.  Cf. the earlier (also OT) thread initiated
by Mr Gallagher on the same theme and my responses to the same.

Philip Taylor


There is a problem with the configuration of the list.
Initially the poster address was in the list "sender" field, with no 
other related field, so someone replying had to paste the name of the 
list in place of the poster address to do a normal reply to the list.


Then "for" and "copy to" fields were added, which allowed using 
send-to-all to reply to all related fields.  By default, the reply still 
goes to the poster (privately) only, which is not correct.


Instead of the "for" field, the list address should have been added in a 
"reply-to" field, so that by default one replies only to the list.

Which is the usual expected default for a forum mailing list.

I highly doubt that most posters expected that their replies would only 
go to the last poster, and not to the list.


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Re: Cannot E-mail pictures from Picasa with newest S.M. update. How to fix?

[Mort]

Jens Hatlak wrote:

Mort wrote:

Since updating to the newest S.M., I cannot e-mail pictures from Picasa.
When I try, the S.M. home page comes up, instead of the compose page.
All the settings are correct in Picasa.


That's likely the MAPI regression introduced in SM 2.22. This might be
fixed in SM 2.23, but we will only know for sure once SM 2.23 Beta 1 is
released and receives some testing.

HTH

Jens



Hi Jens,

Thanks for your reply.

How can I go about getting the most recent older version of S/M. back, 
without losing any of my data?  I have literally thousands of edited and 
corrected photos in Picasa on that P.C., and not being able to e-mail 
them is a big problem.


Thanks again,

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Re: OT: Error code: sec_error_ocsp_invalid_signing_cert

[Chris Ilias]

On 11/27/2013, 6:55 AM, Philip Taylor wrote:



If you are determined to continue this policy of obstructionism, you
should start your own forum, with a rule that all questions are public
and all answers are private. Good luck with that.


An answer sent in private is private.  The recipient is neither
required nor permitted (other than with the explicit consent
of the sender) to disclose the contents to anyone.  A recipient
who has the courtesy to acknowledge such private replies on-list
should be commended, not castigated.


I have it on good authority (from one of the moderators) that my
previous reply was not off-topic and would not be counted against me.


"Physician, heal thyself" -- if you believe that private messages
should be made public without the consent of the sender, then
forward to the list the message to which you refer, rather than
claiming to cite an anonymous moderator.



I'm a newsgroup moderator, not the person in charge of this newsgroup. 
I'm not even a list moderator. When the message removal policy[1] was 
created, Robert gave permission for it be applied to this group as well [2].


[1]
[2] 





Regarding private responses and publishing them, there is no policy and 
nothing is required. It's not a big deal. It's better for everyone if 
solutions are posted in public. If someone doesn't post the solution 
that helped him/her, that sucks but 'oh well'.


The only real technicality is the notion that support solutions are 
somehow copyrighted. If someone is having trouble setting SeaMonkey as 
the default browser, and they get a private response suggesting that 
they set something else as the default, then setting SeaMonkey back as 
the default, there's nothing wrong with the op publicizing that suggestion.


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Re: What theme do you use?

[Barry Edwin Gilmour]

Peter Nieman wrote, On 11/27/2013 09:21 PM:

On 27/11/13 08:33, Ed Mullen wrote:

What theme do you use?  Default? Modern? Or some add-on?

I have used the Modern theme since it was introduced ... uh ... how many
many years ago?

I'm curious because of the cut off spell window thread that's been being
discussed and some contending that it's a problem with the theme, or so
it seems to me in some posts.

So, it would be interesting to get some sense as to what percentage of
SM users are on what theme.

http://edmullen.net/
Is it time for your medication or mine?


I'm using Modern on Linux, and I've seen a bug with that theme for 
some time now concerning the behaviour of the mail toolbar buttons 
(small icons). Clicking in the middle of a button opens the dropdown 
menu instead of giving you the default action. If you want the default 
action, you have to click near the left border of the button. Slightly 
annoying, although you get used to it. I wonder whether somebody still 
cares about Modern?


pn
Modern Toolbar customize "Text" gives a text-button with the 
default-action, located next to the toggle-button grippy, which will 
show the menu. (Modern is being maintained even better than the Default 
Theme).

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Re: email

[jgcurley]

On Wednesday, November 27, 2013 2:58:04 PM UTC-7, jgcu...@frontiernet.net wrote:
> On Wednesday, November 27, 2013 11:30:32 AM UTC-7, Ed Mullen wrote:
> 
> > curl wrote:
> 
> > 
> 
> > > I get my email through frontiernet.net.  Recently, frontier joined with 
> > > Yahoo mail.  When this happened, I wasn't able to receive or send email 
> > > from SeaMonkey.  I called frontier and they had me change my password. 
> > > Then when I went to get my mail at SeaMonkey, SeaMonkey asked for my new 
> > > password.  I entered my new password and then SeaMonkey worked fine for a 
> > > couple of days in that I could receive and send emails.  Now, I can 
> > > receive emails but SeaMonkey won't let me send email, asking me again for 
> > > a new password, but won't let me enter a new password. When I click on 
> > > "enter new password" it just comes back to the same "enter new password" 
> > > message. When I talked with frontier, they said they didn't support 
> > > SeaMonkey and that I needed to ask SeaMonkey for help.
> 
> > 
> 
> > >
> 
> > 
> 
> > > If I switch over to frontier/Yahoo mail, I have to log into frontier, 
> > > just to see if I have email messages.  SeaMonkey has spoiled me, I hope 
> > > you can help.
> 
> > 
> 
> > >
> 
> > 
> 
> > 
> 
> > 
> 
> > My guess is that your mail account is still set up to use Frontier's 
> 
> > 
> 
> > SMTP server and not Yahoo's.  Check your settings as others have replied 
> 
> > 
> 
> > and report back here.
> 
> > 
> 
> > 
> 
> > 
> 
> > -- 
> 
> > 
> 
> > Ed Mullen
> 
> > 
> 
> > http://edmullen.net/
> 
> > 
> 
> > When in doubt assume that, once again, you've outsmarted yourself.

Daniel, Hawker and Ed,

(Apologies, I don't know if I am posting correctly)

Thank you so much for your responses.  I did go into Password Manager and it 
showed me my passwords for my mailbox and SMTP.  And the password for SMTP was 
not correct but there was not the question to answer "yes" for the correct 
password.  I called Frontier and asked if they could help me change the 
password and over a lengthy period of time, the tech did change it and now I 
can send email through SeaMonkey again.  Thank you again for your help and 
suggestions and the tip to use Thunderbird advise as well.  Curl

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Re: email

[jgcurley]

On Wednesday, November 27, 2013 11:30:32 AM UTC-7, Ed Mullen wrote:
> curl wrote:
> 
> > I get my email through frontiernet.net.  Recently, frontier joined with 
> > Yahoo mail.  When this happened, I wasn't able to receive or send email 
> > from SeaMonkey.  I called frontier and they had me change my password. Then 
> > when I went to get my mail at SeaMonkey, SeaMonkey asked for my new 
> > password.  I entered my new password and then SeaMonkey worked fine for a 
> > couple of days in that I could receive and send emails.  Now, I can receive 
> > emails but SeaMonkey won't let me send email, asking me again for a new 
> > password, but won't let me enter a new password. When I click on "enter new 
> > password" it just comes back to the same "enter new password" message. When 
> > I talked with frontier, they said they didn't support SeaMonkey and that I 
> > needed to ask SeaMonkey for help.
> 
> >
> 
> > If I switch over to frontier/Yahoo mail, I have to log into frontier, just 
> > to see if I have email messages.  SeaMonkey has spoiled me, I hope you can 
> > help.
> 
> >
> 
> 
> 
> My guess is that your mail account is still set up to use Frontier's 
> 
> SMTP server and not Yahoo's.  Check your settings as others have replied 
> 
> and report back here.
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> 
> Ed Mullen
> 
> http://edmullen.net/
> 
> When in doubt assume that, once again, you've outsmarted yourself.


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Re: What theme do you use?

[NFN Smith]

Ed Mullen wrote:

What theme do you use?  Default? Modern?  Or some add-on?



I mostly use the Default one, although I have both Modern and Kilome 
installed.


After reading through this thread, I did a bit of playing with the other 
two, to see if I could remember why I switched back to Default.


In the process, I discovered that with the Modern theme, there's not the 
issue with line spacing that appeared with the release of Seamonkey 
2.22. On the other hand, I'm still seeing the near-truncated display of 
the dialog window for the spell-checker.


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Re: Cannot E-mail pictures from Picasa with newest S.M. update. How to fix?

[Jens Hatlak]

Mort wrote:

Since updating to the newest S.M., I cannot e-mail pictures from Picasa.
When I try, the S.M. home page comes up, instead of the compose page.
All the settings are correct in Picasa.


That's likely the MAPI regression introduced in SM 2.22. This might be 
fixed in SM 2.23, but we will only know for sure once SM 2.23 Beta 1 is 
released and receives some testing.


HTH

Jens

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Re: webmaster : please add a reply-to field

[Rick Merrill]

sean nathan wrote:

andré wrote, On 11/16/2013 04:29 AM:

Suggestion to simplify interaction with the list :

The current configuration of the list shows the poster as the sender.
So if someone replies to a message, by default it goes (only) to the
sender, and not the list.  (reply-to-all also goes only to the sender.)
To correct this, there should be a reply-to line, which means a reply by
default (only) goes to the list.
With a reply-to line, reply-to-all will go to the list + the sender.



I read this via newsgroup in Seamonkey. When I choose to reply, I'm offered a 
choice
of replying to the newsgroup or sender only.




If I pick "reply all" I can send to newsgroup AND sender.


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Re: New query, "send to mail recipient option"

[Jens Hatlak]

azed13 wrote:

Has a workaround been found for the failure of Seamonkey Mail Client to
open when "send to mail recipient" is selected for images, etc. 2.22.1
still opens a new browser page not mail.


Unfortunately there is no workaround (other than manually attaching 
files from disk). It might be fixed in SM 2.23, but we will only know 
for sure once SM 2.23 Beta 1 is released and receives some testing.


HTH

Jens

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Re: plugin finder for Flash - failed

[Rick Merrill]

David E. Ross wrote:

On 11/27/2013 10:35 AM, Rick Merrill wrote:

And the manual install did not succeed either.

What do I check to solve this little problem?



If you have an older version of Flash installed, use the Windows
Add/Remove capability to delete it.  Then try again to install the new
version.



So far, so good!  Thanks.
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Re: plugin finder for Flash - failed

[David E. Ross]

On 11/27/2013 10:35 AM, Rick Merrill wrote:
> And the manual install did not succeed either.
> 
> What do I check to solve this little problem?
> 

If you have an older version of Flash installed, use the Windows
Add/Remove capability to delete it.  Then try again to install the new
version.

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Re: 2.22.1 Install nag: Did not install.....!!

[David E. Ross]

On 11/26/2013 10:22 PM, azed13 wrote:
> David E. Ross wrote:
>> On 11/26/2013 4:40 PM, azed13 wrote:
>>> I checked for the latest update and allowed Seamonkey to download the
>>> update and install. I never do that, preferring to download the file and
>>> do a manual install.
>>>
>>> The instructions are to restart Seamonkey for the update to be
>>> installed. I did that and got the message that "the update could not be
>>> installed because Seamonkey is already running, etc." and a new
>>> Seamonkey browser opens immediately after closing the message. I
>>> restarted Seamonkey several times and the message just repeats.
>>>
>>> I decided to do my usual and download the latest update, installed it
>>> with high hopes. No joy! Every time I start Seamonkey I get the nag. Can
>>> anyone tell me the name of the auto update file and where it might have
>>> been downloaded to my computer?
>>>
>>> I would like to find it and kill it. I have no wish to keep seeing this
>>> message for an eternity. Thanks in advance,
>>>
>>> azed13
>>>
>>> BTW; a check with Windows "Task Manager" does not find any Seamonkey
>>> session open except the one that displays the message.
>>>
>>
>> In the Task Manager, did you look on the Processes tab for
>> "seamonkey.exe" or only on the Applications tab for "SeaMonkey"?
>>
> I did look in processes, only the current instance, ending the process 
> closed the current browser. No others were listed.
> 

That is what I have been seeing, not with installs but generally.  It is
sporadic, about 1/4 of the time.

See the thread "SeaMonkey Shutdown" (started 25 Nov 2013) in this
newsgroup.

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Re: Funding and Bug Fixes....

[Rufus]

Philip Chee wrote:

On 27/11/2013 05:34, Rufus wrote:

Philip Chee wrote:



How did it come to pass that this is a Window on the Win version and a
drop-dialog on the Mac version?  I'm not seeing a problem with the Spell
Check drop on the Mac version.


I'm not on a Mac so I can't answer your question.

Phil



The question is really more of a historical one - seeing as there are 
two differing implementations and yet a similar problem it would seem 
that something other than the Theme itself may be involved...just food 
for thought for the coders.


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Re: What theme do you use?

[Rufus]

Ed Mullen wrote:

What theme do you use?  Default? Modern?  Or some add-on?

I have used the Modern theme since it was introduced ... uh ... how many
many years ago?

I'm curious because of the cut off spell window thread that's been being
discussed and some contending that it's a problem with the theme, or so
it seems to me in some posts.

So, it would be interesting to get some sense as to what percentage of
SM users are on what theme.

http://edmullen.net/
Is it time for your medication or mine?


I've used the SM Modern Theme continually since the introduction of the 
latest Default.


I've looked for alternatives but haven't found a single one that I like 
better than SM Modern.


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Re: What theme do you use?

[PhillipJones]

Ed Mullen wrote:

What theme do you use?  Default? Modern?  Or some add-on?

I have used the Modern theme since it was introduced ... uh ... how many
many years ago?

I'm curious because of the cut off spell window thread that's been being
discussed and some contending that it's a problem with the theme, or so
it seems to me in some posts.

So, it would be interesting to get some sense as to what percentage of
SM users are on what theme.

http://edmullen.net/
Is it time for your medication or mine?
 I would love to use Orbit 3 +1 But evidently the develop is un 
interested in updating it.

 I have it working in FireFox looks great.

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Re: Opening links in different browser

[Ed Mullen]

Charani wrote:

On Wed, 27 Nov 2013 13:22:38 -0500, Ed Mullen wrote:


See if this helps:

http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?f=40&t=2438561


Thanks.

It seems the answer is no.  Links in the SeaMonkey email client must
be opened in SeaMonkey browser.  Trying to get the links to open in an
alternative causes mayhem.

Charani



How about this?

http://kb.mozillazine.org/Default_browser

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Re: What theme do you use?

[EE]

Ed Mullen wrote:

What theme do you use?  Default? Modern?  Or some add-on?

I have used the Modern theme since it was introduced ... uh ... how many
many years ago?

I'm curious because of the cut off spell window thread that's been being
discussed and some contending that it's a problem with the theme, or so
it seems to me in some posts.

So, it would be interesting to get some sense as to what percentage of
SM users are on what theme.

http://edmullen.net/
Is it time for your medication or mine?


I have 8 themes added to SeaMonkey.

Blue Essence  - needed extensive patching & bumping of max version - had 
to add Mozapps, Chatzilla, Messenger, plus new scrollbars


Classic Firefox for SeaMonkey - used Halloween (Firefox) colours to make 
it look nicer


EarlyBlue - just made the white areas yellow & repainted browser toolbar 
buttons


Firefox 3 for SeaMonkey - used Glowy Wine (Thunderbird) colour scheme & 
had to add Messenger


Kilome - used Bloody Red (Firefox) colours - had to bump up max version

LCARStrek - had to make some areas more readable

SeaMonkey Gray Modern - used Pitchdark (Firefox) colours - had to patch 
installer to give it its own internal name


Walnut 2 for SeaMonkey - had to fix a few small things

All of these themes have been patched in some ways, some more than 
others.  All of the older ones had to be patched to make the plugins 
work properly.


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Re: Opening links in different browser

[Charani]

On Thu, 28 Nov 2013 00:05:02 +0530, regz91 wrote:

> Use https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/addon/open-with/

Thanks.

Mmmm, "Not available for SeaMonkey 2.16" it says when opened in
SeaMonkey.  I run 2.16.  "Works with 2.21 and 2.22" it says when
opened in my other browser.

Guess it's bye bye SeaMonkey. Shame it's been good.

Charani
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Re: Opening links in different browser

[Charani]

On Wed, 27 Nov 2013 13:22:38 -0500, Ed Mullen wrote:

> See if this helps:
> 
> http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?f=40&t=2438561

Thanks.

It seems the answer is no.  Links in the SeaMonkey email client must
be opened in SeaMonkey browser.  Trying to get the links to open in an
alternative causes mayhem.

Charani
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plugin finder for Flash - failed

[Rick Merrill]

And the manual install did not succeed either.

What do I check to solve this little problem?

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Re: Opening links in different browser

[regz91]

Charani wrote:

How do I get links sent in mails to open in an alternative browser
rather than in SeaMonkey?

At the moment I'm using Seamonkey only for mail. I don't want links to
open in SeaMonkey.  If it's not posible to use an alternative browser
for links, I'll drop SeaMonkey as it isn't recognised on all sites or
doesn't working properly.

Charani


Use https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/addon/open-with/

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Re: email

[Ed Mullen]

curl wrote:

I get my email through frontiernet.net.  Recently, frontier joined with Yahoo mail.  When this 
happened, I wasn't able to receive or send email from SeaMonkey.  I called frontier and they had me 
change my password. Then when I went to get my mail at SeaMonkey, SeaMonkey asked for my new 
password.  I entered my new password and then SeaMonkey worked fine for a couple of days in that I 
could receive and send emails.  Now, I can receive emails but SeaMonkey won't let me send email, 
asking me again for a new password, but won't let me enter a new password. When I click on 
"enter new password" it just comes back to the same "enter new password" 
message. When I talked with frontier, they said they didn't support SeaMonkey and that I needed to 
ask SeaMonkey for help.

If I switch over to frontier/Yahoo mail, I have to log into frontier, just to 
see if I have email messages.  SeaMonkey has spoiled me, I hope you can help.



My guess is that your mail account is still set up to use Frontier's 
SMTP server and not Yahoo's.  Check your settings as others have replied 
and report back here.


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Re: Cannot E-mail pictures from Picasa with newest S.M. update. How to fix?

[Ed Mullen]

Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:

Mort wrote:


---
This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus
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http://www.avast.com


Please search your Avast options for the place to turn off the insertion
of the above spam. Thanks for your consideration. It's caused by your
recently updated version, and it also has a malformed sig delimiter which
causes it to be quoted by the unwary.

You do not need to scan outgoing or incoming email or news posts.




Regarding the proper form of a signature:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Signature_block

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Re: Opening links in different browser

[Ed Mullen]

Charani wrote:

How do I get links sent in mails to open in an alternative browser
rather than in SeaMonkey?

At the moment I'm using Seamonkey only for mail. I don't want links to
open in SeaMonkey.  If it's not posible to use an alternative browser
for links, I'll drop SeaMonkey as it isn't recognised on all sites or
doesn't working properly.

Charani



See if this helps:

http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?f=40&t=2438561


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Re: email

[hawker]

On 11/26/2013 7:10 PM, curl wrote:

I get my email through frontiernet.net.  Recently, frontier joined with Yahoo mail.  When this 
happened, I wasn't able to receive or send email from SeaMonkey.  I called frontier and they had me 
change my password. Then when I went to get my mail at SeaMonkey, SeaMonkey asked for my new 
password.  I entered my new password and then SeaMonkey worked fine for a couple of days in that I 
could receive and send emails.  Now, I can receive emails but SeaMonkey won't let me send email, 
asking me again for a new password, but won't let me enter a new password. When I click on 
"enter new password" it just comes back to the same "enter new password" 
message. When I talked with frontier, they said they didn't support SeaMonkey and that I needed to 
ask SeaMonkey for help.

If I switch over to frontier/Yahoo mail, I have to log into frontier, just to 
see if I have email messages.  SeaMonkey has spoiled me, I hope you can help.



My guess is you either have the SMTP, POP, Port, or some other 
authentication setting wrong.


Most folks have no clue what Seamonkey is and will feed you a similar 
line. Tell them you have Thunderbird and you usually will get further. 
Don't even mention Seamonkey.  I like to think of Seamonkey as Firefox 
and Thunderbird with a different UI/Wraper around it.  As far as getting 
things like E-mail working you are usually working with the same 
components, but the menu to get there may be different. Thunderbird 
advice should work for Seamonkey

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Re: What theme do you use?

[regz91]

Pololo wrote:


GNOMErunner/GTK Revived on Xubuntu 12.04LTS 32-bits
I too use the same theme .The theme also installs an addon which allows 
you to customise various stuff like removing grippies etc.


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Re: Cannot E-mail pictures from Picasa with newest S.M. update. How to fix?

[Beauregard T. Shagnasty]

Mort wrote:

> ---
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> protection is active.
> http://www.avast.com

Please search your Avast options for the place to turn off the insertion 
of the above spam. Thanks for your consideration. It's caused by your 
recently updated version, and it also has a malformed sig delimiter which 
causes it to be quoted by the unwary.

You do not need to scan outgoing or incoming email or news posts.


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Re: What theme do you use?

[chicagofan]

Desiree wrote:

On 11/26/2013 9:33 PM, Ed Mullen wrote:

What theme do you use?  Default? Modern? Or some add-on?

I have used the Modern theme since it was introduced ... uh ... how many
many years ago?

I'm curious because of the cut off spell window thread that's been being
discussed and some contending that it's a problem with the theme, or so
it seems to me in some posts.

So, it would be interesting to get some sense as to what percentage of
SM users are on what theme.

http://edmullen.net/
Is it time for your medication or mine?

I use a Persona.  I think Personas use the default theme's 
buttons...they used to do that...but I don't know what theme the 
buttons belong to today.  I haven't used a theme since Personas were 
first introduced for Fx and Sm.  I have several Personas for each 
browser and I change them frequently.


I think any problems are due to the buttons used not any Persona. 
Plus, I know "persona" was dropped but calling Personas "themes" now 
and calling what used to be themes "complete themes" now is confusing 
and convoluted.


So, I think what you want to know is what, if any, complete theme is 
being used by SeaMonkey users not what persona or theme (as they are 
now called) is being used.


LOL... I am really confused now, so all I can say is I'm using what is 
known to me as a "Persona", and it's one of the reasons I am lagging on 
SM updates.  I don't want to lose it.   :)   Haven't had a problem with 
the spell window if that matters.

bj


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Re: SeaMonkey Shutdown

[A Williams]

BIll Spikowski wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:

Windows 7 (x64)
SeaMonkey 2.22.1

Very often, the seamonkey.exe process fails to die when I shutdown
SeaMonkey.  I usually shut it down by selecting the X in the upper-right
corner of the window.  Several minutes later, I cannot relaunch
SeaMonkey without first using Ctrl-Alt-Delete and terminating the
seamonkey.exe process.

Is this a SeaMonkey problem or a Windows 7 problem?



It's not specific to Windows 7; it's a long-standing problem in WinXP
as well.





I had it under Linux for a while recently, coupled with 100% processor 
usage from the persistent process.  My posting on September 12 produced 
nothing useable but it has been weeks since the problem last arose anyway.

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Re: xpi file download to disk?

[Philip Chee]

On 27/11/2013 01:13, Hartmut Figge wrote:
> Philip Taylor:
>>Hartmut Figge wrote:
>>> Philip Chee:
 On 26/11/2013 02:09, David E. Ross wrote:
> 
> .
>>> 
 1. I right click on the gray button. And then I chose ""Save link target
 as"
>>> 
>>> Not possible there.
>>
>>Impossible the first time, forced reload, then possible thereafter.
>>The button is greyed out after a short period on initial load, but
>>not thereafter.
> 
> After such a reload the button will be blue for a short time. If you are
> quick enough, you have to be very quick *g*, then you get the popup
> window when left clicking. With the right button i am not quick enough.
> 
> After the blue button is grey again, then nothing can be done.
> 
> Hartmut

I haven't tried this, but
(1) turn off javascript and then
(2) load the page https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/fontinfo/

Phil

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Re: Funding and Bug Fixes....

[Philip Chee]

On 27/11/2013 05:34, Rufus wrote:
> Philip Chee wrote:

> How did it come to pass that this is a Window on the Win version and a 
> drop-dialog on the Mac version?  I'm not seeing a problem with the Spell 
> Check drop on the Mac version.

I'm not on a Mac so I can't answer your question.

Phil

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Cannot E-mail pictures from Picasa with newest S.M. update. How to fix?

[Mort]

Hi,

Since updating to the newest S.M., I cannot e-mail pictures from Picasa. 
When I try, the S.M. home page comes up, instead of the compose page. 
All the settings are correct in Picasa.


On another PC, which I did not update, the e-mailed pix are fine. 
However, most of my pix are on the PC that won't e-mail them. The Picasa 
web site was not helpful.


Anyone who knows a fix will gain my sincere thanks.

Mort Linder

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Re: Blank nag?

[Philip Chee]

On 27/11/2013 14:25, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
> Several times in the past week, SeaMonkey has displayed a blank dialog. 
> It looks exactly like the nag to upgrade to a new version (same size, 
> shape, position, look and feel), except that the title bar is blank and 
> the content area is blank.
> 
> Was this you?
> 
> I didn't see how it got there -- in each case, I walked away from the 
> computer to do something and it was there when I returned. I closed it 
> to no ill effect, but if SeaMonkey is trying to tell me something, it's 
> failing.

When that happened to me it was usually one of two causes:
1. I screwed up with a SeaMonkey patch I was writing.
2. A misbehaving extension.

Phil

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Re: SM not making connection with Internet!

[Dustbin]

BIll Spikowski wrote:

Dustbin wrote:



A few days ago I received a pop-up advice that SM 2.22.1 was available. I
dutifully updated as usual. Then I found that FF returns unfound for all URLs. I
reverted to SM v. 2.22 and all is well - once more.

Then I got the same with updates to FF and TB. I assume there is a connection.
Some change to the common internet connection software.

Anyone else having this problem? Anyone know anything about this?



I haven't experienced that problem -- but I also reverted to SM 2.22
to regain use of the Lightning extension. Fortunately the reversion
process is simple and trouble-free.



It seems to be a recently updated ZoneAlarm that has caused the problem.

The pointer to the firewall was the clue that sent me in the right direction.

ZoneAlarm has had to be removed - not for the first time.

THX.
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Re: SM not making connection with Internet!

[Dustbin]

David E. Ross wrote:

On 11/26/2013 4:51 AM, Dustbin wrote:



A few days ago I received a pop-up advice that SM 2.22.1 was available. I
dutifully updated as usual. Then I found that FF returns unfound for all URLs. I
reverted to SM v. 2.22 and all is well - once more.

Then I got the same with updates to FF and TB. I assume there is a connection.
Some change to the common internet connection software.

Anyone else having this problem? Anyone know anything about this?

D.



Windows 7 (x64)
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:25.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.22.1

I do not see this problem.


It seems to be a recently updated ZoneAlarm that has caused the problem.

The pointer to the firewall was the clue that sent me in the right direction.

ZoneAlarm has had to be removed - not for the first time.

THX.

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Re: SM not making connection with Internet!

[Dustbin]

WaltS wrote:

On 11/26/2013 07:51 AM, Dustbin wrote:



A few days ago I received a pop-up advice that SM 2.22.1 was available.
I dutifully updated as usual. Then I found that FF returns unfound for
all URLs. I reverted to SM v. 2.22 and all is well - once more.

Then I got the same with updates to FF and TB. I assume there is a
connection. Some change to the common internet connection software.

Anyone else having this problem? Anyone know anything about this?

D.



No problem here but I don't use Windows.

So what security software are you using that may not be recognizing the updated
versions?

Firewall problem?

It seems to be a recently updated ZoneAlarm that has caused the problem.

The pointer to the firewall was the clue that sent me in the right direction.

ZoneAlarm has had to be removed - not for the first time.

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Re: ADMIN: List policy

[Paul B. Gallagher]

Philip Taylor wrote:


Paul B. Gallagher wrote:


BTW, why would you set followup to "/dev/null"? Yet another way of
gumming up the works? Why are you even here if you are so opposed to
what we do?


Because not only is this current digression completely unrelated
to the focus of this list (i.e., Seamonkey), it is also completely
unrelated to anything Mozilla-specific at all. Since I give my
e-mail in clear in every message, you are perfectly at liberty
to continue the debate off-list if you so wish, as per the guidance
from the list moderator :


I purposely choose not to keep my views on the purpose and policies of 
the list secret. Nor, I might note, do you.


You might also consider that several other subscribers have weighed in 
with views similar to mine, even if they have not explicitly said "what 
he said!"


In my view, "the focus of this list" is to provide solutions to 
SeaMonkey issues -- on that we probably agree. Keeping those solutions 
secret as you propose, or objecting to that secrecy as I do, is 
definitely on topic. If your policy prevails, fewer solutions will be 
available to our readers, and questions already secretly answered will 
be posed repeatedly so other helpers can reinvent those secret 
solutions. That hinders the function of the forum.



On 03/11/2013 at 20:01, Chris Ilias wrote (in part, and in response
to another message from you) :


If you do want to post an off-topic message, there are a few things
you can do:



* You can reply to the poster via private email


That boilerplate was sent in response to his calculation that the 
proportion of messages he considered off-topic had exceeded 10% of my 
overall total. I have no reason to believe he considers this discussion 
of list policy off-topic, despite your repeated markings of your own 
messages as off-topic.


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Re: What theme do you use?

[Petr Voralek]

   Hello!

  On 11/27/2013 08:33 AM, *Ed Mullen* wrote, and I quote (in part):

> I have used the Modern theme since it was introduced ... uh ... how many 
> many years ago?

  I'm on the same boat as you.  Previously, I have also used the Gray
Modern, but this theme is probably abandoned by author now...
http://mozilla-themes.schellen.net/

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Re: OT: Error code: sec_error_ocsp_invalid_signing_cert

[Ray_Net]

Philip Taylor wrote, On 27/11/2013 15:02:


Paul B. Gallagher wrote:


BTW, why would you set followup to "/dev/null"? Yet another way of
gumming up the works? Why are you even here if you are so opposed to
what we do?

Because not only is this current digression completely unrelated
to the focus of this list (i.e., Seamonkey), it is also completely
unrelated to anything Mozilla-specific at all.  Since I give my
e-mail in clear in every message, you are perfectly at liberty
to continue the debate off-list if you so wish, as per the guidance
from the list moderator :

On 03/11/2013 at 20:01, Chris Ilias wrote (in part, and in response
to another message from you) :


If you do want to post an off-topic message, there a few things you
can do:
* You can reply to the poster via private email

Philip Taylor

But the content of this private e-mail must be posted here :-) :-)
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Re: What theme do you use?

[WaltS]

On 11/27/2013 09:12 AM, Daniel wrote:

Pololo wrote:

On 27/11/13 08:33, Ed Mullen wrote:

What theme do you use?  Default? Modern?  Or some add-on?



GNOMErunner/GTK Revived on Xubuntu 12.04LTS 32-bits


In SeaMonkey, View->Apply Theme shows ...??




GNOMErunner/GTK Revived 0.2 is a complete theme.

[GNOMErunner/GTK Revived :: Add-ons for 
SeaMonkey](https://addons.mozilla.org/en-us/seamonkey/addon/gnomerunnergtk-revived/)


This is a continuation of GNOMErunner/GTK theme that works with 
SeaMonkey 2.19 and newer versions.

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Re: What theme do you use?

[Daniel]

Philip Taylor wrote:



Ed Mullen wrote:


What theme do you use?  Default? Modern?  Or some add-on?


None, as far as I am aware.  I eschew themes, shells, chromes,
and anything else that seeks to tart up a tool that should
be solely functional.  If I /am/ using a theme, then it is
whatever theme is intrinsic to Seamonkey.

Philip Taylor


View->Apply Theme shows ...??

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Re: What theme do you use?

[Daniel]

Pololo wrote:

On 27/11/13 08:33, Ed Mullen wrote:

What theme do you use?  Default? Modern?  Or some add-on?



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Re: What theme do you use?

[WaltS]

Ed Mullen wrote:

What theme do you use?  Default? Modern?  Or some add-on?

I have used the Modern theme since it was introduced ... uh ... how many
many years ago?

I'm curious because of the cut off spell window thread that's been being
discussed and some contending that it's a problem with the theme, or so
it seems to me in some posts.

So, it would be interesting to get some sense as to what percentage of
SM users are on what theme.

http://edmullen.net/
Is it time for your medication or mine?



Seamonkey Default Theme 2.22

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OT: Error code: sec_error_ocsp_invalid_signing_cert

[Philip Taylor]

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

> BTW, why would you set followup to "/dev/null"? Yet another way of 
> gumming up the works? Why are you even here if you are so opposed to 
> what we do?

Because not only is this current digression completely unrelated
to the focus of this list (i.e., Seamonkey), it is also completely
unrelated to anything Mozilla-specific at all.  Since I give my
e-mail in clear in every message, you are perfectly at liberty
to continue the debate off-list if you so wish, as per the guidance
from the list moderator :

On 03/11/2013 at 20:01, Chris Ilias wrote (in part, and in response
to another message from you) :

> If you do want to post an off-topic message, there a few things you 
> can do: 

> * You can reply to the poster via private email

Philip Taylor
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Re: What theme do you use?

[Pololo]

On 27/11/13 08:33, Ed Mullen wrote:

What theme do you use?  Default? Modern?  Or some add-on?



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Re: ADMIN: Error code: sec_error_ocsp_invalid_signing_cert

[Paul B. Gallagher]

Philip Taylor wrote:

[quoting me without attribution:]

If you are determined to continue this policy of obstructionism,
you should start your own forum, with a rule that all questions
are public and all answers are private. Good luck with that.


An answer sent in private is private. The recipient is neither
required nor permitted (other than with the explicit consent of the
sender) to disclose the contents to anyone. A recipient who has the
courtesy to acknowledge such private replies on-list should be
commended, not castigated.


Straw man. No one's asking for information that should properly be kept 
private. I don't need personal information about the sender; if they 
prefer not to be recognized as helpful, so be it.


But if on a public forum someone asks for a solution to a problem that 
other users may share, and one is given privately, why should that 
solution be kept secret? Who could possibly benefit from such secrecy, 
and who could possibly be harmed by disclosing the solution? The point 
of the forum is to share solutions, not to conceal them. Ed Mullen's 
criticism was not for giving thanks, it was for concealing the solution.



I have it on good authority (from one of the moderators) that my
previous reply was not off-topic and would not be counted against
me.


"Physician, heal thyself" -- if you believe that private messages
should be made public without the consent of the sender, then
forward to the list the message to which you refer, rather than
claiming to cite an anonymous moderator.


As luck would have it, I didn't save it; it never occurred to me that I 
would need it. But he's a regular here and is doubtless reading messages 
with the "ADMIN" flag, so we'll see what he has to say soon enough.


BTW, why would you set followup to "/dev/null"? Yet another way of 
gumming up the works? Why are you even here if you are so opposed to 
what we do?


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Re: What theme do you use?

[David H. Durgee]

Ed Mullen wrote:

What theme do you use?  Default? Modern?  Or some add-on?

I have used the Modern theme since it was introduced ... uh ... how many
many years ago?

I'm curious because of the cut off spell window thread that's been being
discussed and some contending that it's a problem with the theme, or so
it seems to me in some posts.

So, it would be interesting to get some sense as to what percentage of
SM users are on what theme.



I have always used LittleMonkey with SeaMonkey here on Linux Mint x64.

Dave

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Re: What theme do you use?

[Charani]

On Wed, 27 Nov 2013 02:33:07 -0500, Ed Mullen wrote:

> What theme do you use?  Default? Modern?

Default with no problems.

Charani
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Re: What theme do you use?

[Philip Taylor]

Ed Mullen wrote:

> What theme do you use?  Default? Modern?  Or some add-on?

None, as far as I am aware.  I eschew themes, shells, chromes,
and anything else that seeks to tart up a tool that should
be solely functional.  If I /am/ using a theme, then it is
whatever theme is intrinsic to Seamonkey.

Philip Taylor
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Re: What theme do you use?

[Peter Nieman]

On 27/11/13 08:33, Ed Mullen wrote:

What theme do you use?  Default? Modern?  Or some add-on?

I have used the Modern theme since it was introduced ... uh ... how many
many years ago?

I'm curious because of the cut off spell window thread that's been being
discussed and some contending that it's a problem with the theme, or so
it seems to me in some posts.

So, it would be interesting to get some sense as to what percentage of
SM users are on what theme.

http://edmullen.net/
Is it time for your medication or mine?


I'm using Modern on Linux, and I've seen a bug with that theme for some 
time now concerning the behaviour of the mail toolbar buttons (small 
icons). Clicking in the middle of a button opens the dropdown menu 
instead of giving you the default action. If you want the default 
action, you have to click near the left border of the button. Slightly 
annoying, although you get used to it. I wonder whether somebody still 
cares about Modern?


pn
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OT: Error code: sec_error_ocsp_invalid_signing_cert

[Philip Taylor]

> If you are determined to continue this policy of obstructionism, you
> should start your own forum, with a rule that all questions are public
> and all answers are private. Good luck with that.

An answer sent in private is private.  The recipient is neither
required nor permitted (other than with the explicit consent
of the sender) to disclose the contents to anyone.  A recipient
who has the courtesy to acknowledge such private replies on-list
should be commended, not castigated.

> I have it on good authority (from one of the moderators) that my
> previous reply was not off-topic and would not be counted against me.

"Physician, heal thyself" -- if you believe that private messages
should be made public without the consent of the sender, then
forward to the list the message to which you refer, rather than
claiming to cite an anonymous moderator.

Philip Taylor
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Opening links in different browser

[Charani]

How do I get links sent in mails to open in an alternative browser
rather than in SeaMonkey?

At the moment I'm using Seamonkey only for mail. I don't want links to
open in SeaMonkey.  If it's not posible to use an alternative browser
for links, I'll drop SeaMonkey as it isn't recognised on all sites or
doesn't working properly.

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Re: ADMIN: Error code: sec_error_ocsp_invalid_signing_cert

[Paul B. Gallagher]

Philip Taylor wrote:


Ed Mullen wrote:


Erness Wild wrote :


Thanks for the private emails, replies noted.



What?

You are participating in a public forum.  You asked for help. Someone
replied out of context.  Yet you come here and say thanks?

Post the solution HERE so that others may benefit from it.

Geez.


The replies were PRIVATE. Mr Wild not only has no obligation
to publish the content of private e-mails, it would be an abuse
of privilege so to do. Cf. the earlier (also OT) thread initiated
by Mr Gallagher on the same theme and my responses to the same.


If you are determined to continue this policy of obstructionism, you 
should start your own forum, with a rule that all questions are public 
and all answers are private. Good luck with that.


I have it on good authority (from one of the moderators) that my 
previous reply was not off-topic and would not be counted against me.


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Re: What theme do you use?

[Desiree]

On 11/26/2013 9:33 PM, Ed Mullen wrote:

What theme do you use?  Default? Modern?  Or some add-on?

I have used the Modern theme since it was introduced ... uh ... how many
many years ago?

I'm curious because of the cut off spell window thread that's been being
discussed and some contending that it's a problem with the theme, or so
it seems to me in some posts.

So, it would be interesting to get some sense as to what percentage of
SM users are on what theme.

http://edmullen.net/
Is it time for your medication or mine?

I use a Persona.  I think Personas use the default theme's 
buttons...they used to do that...but I don't know what theme the buttons 
belong to today.  I haven't used a theme since Personas were first 
introduced for Fx and Sm.  I have several Personas for each browser and 
I change them frequently.


I think any problems are due to the buttons used not any Persona.  Plus, 
I know "persona" was dropped but calling Personas "themes" now and 
calling what used to be themes "complete themes" now is confusing and 
convoluted.


So, I think what you want to know is what, if any, complete theme is 
being used by SeaMonkey users not what persona or theme (as they are now 
called) is being used.

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OT: Error code: sec_error_ocsp_invalid_signing_cert

[Philip Taylor]

Ed Mullen wrote:

> Erness Wild wrote :
> 
>> Thanks for the private emails, replies noted.

> What?
> 
> You are participating in a public forum.  You asked for help. Someone
> replied out of context.  Yet you come here and say thanks?
> 
> Post the solution HERE so that others may benefit from it.
> 
> Geez.

The replies were PRIVATE.  Mr Wild not only has no obligation
to publish the content of private e-mails, it would be an abuse
of privilege so to do.  Cf. the earlier (also OT) thread initiated
by Mr Gallagher on the same theme and my responses to the same.

Philip Taylor
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Re: email

[Daniel]

curl wrote:

I get my email through frontiernet.net.  Recently, frontier joined with Yahoo mail.  When this 
happened, I wasn't able to receive or send email from SeaMonkey.  I called frontier and they had me 
change my password. Then when I went to get my mail at SeaMonkey, SeaMonkey asked for my new 
password.  I entered my new password and then SeaMonkey worked fine for a couple of days in that I 
could receive and send emails.  Now, I can receive emails but SeaMonkey won't let me send email, 
asking me again for a new password, but won't let me enter a new password. When I click on 
"enter new password" it just comes back to the same "enter new password" 
message. When I talked with frontier, they said they didn't support SeaMonkey and that I needed to 
ask SeaMonkey for help.

If I switch over to frontier/Yahoo mail, I have to log into frontier, just to 
see if I have email messages.  SeaMonkey has spoiled me, I hope you can help.

Curl, if you look at Tools->Password Manager, select your ISP (Frontier 
or Yahoo or Frontier/Yahoo), select the "Password" tab, and, at the 
bottom, select "Show Password" and answer "Yes", is the correct Password 
shown against the account??


Additionally, check out Edit->Mail & Newsgroups Account Settings, select 
your Mail account and check that you have the correct Outgoing Server 
(SMTP) selected.


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Re: What theme do you use?

[Trane Francks]

On 11/27/13 4:33 PM +0900, Ed Mullen wrote:

What theme do you use?  Default? Modern?  Or some add-on?

I have used the Modern theme since it was introduced ... uh ... how many
many years ago?

I'm curious because of the cut off spell window thread that's been being
discussed and some contending that it's a problem with the theme, or so
it seems to me in some posts.

So, it would be interesting to get some sense as to what percentage of
SM users are on what theme.

http://edmullen.net/
Is it time for your medication or mine?

I use the Default theme on OS X because it more closely resembles native 
Mac applications.


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Re: xpi file download to disk?

[Trane Francks]

On 11/27/13 1:48 AM +0900, Hartmut Figge wrote:

Philip Chee:

On 26/11/2013 02:09, David E. Ross wrote:



.



1. I right click on the gray button. And then I chose ""Save link target
as"


Not possible there.


Not possible here, either. SM 2.21 on OS X 10.7.5 (Lion).


OR

2. I click on the gray button. I get a popup which says:

[...]

Does not work there either. ;)


DNWFM, either.


User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:28.0) Gecko/2013112617
SeaMonkey/2.25a1-h



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Re: Funding and Bug Fixes....

[Daniel]

Jens Hatlak wrote:

Daniel wrote:

Where might I d/l the Win x64_86 nightly's from??


In general you can download nightlies from

(the trunk ones are below directories containing "comm-central"). On
that level you can find directories relating to years (e.g. "2012"), and
below it for months (e.g. "10"). Latest trunk nightlies are always below
"latest-comm-central-trunk", but be advised that this directory is not
cleaned up regularly so it also lists some old builds.

Unfortunately, right now recent nightly builds are only available for
Windows. Builds for Linux have been missing for several weeks now due to
some unfulfilled Python dependencies on the build machines. Forgot what
the Mac issue was.

HTH

Jens

Thanks, Jens, and because I'm on my normal Linux tonight, I'm only being 
offered Linux downloads. Must remember to boot into Windows tomorrow and 
then download


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Short screens (was:- Re: Funding and Bug Fixes....)

[Daniel]

Rufus wrote:

Daniel wrote:

Rufus wrote:

BIll Spikowski wrote:





I wish I had been paying more attention!

I'm not certain that the problem is new to 2.22; it's possible it
appeared back in 2.21.

Another complicating factor is that I sometimes wait a few weeks
before allowing SM to update. One extension that's critical to me,
Lightning (which lets me communicate with colleagues who use the
Outlook calendar), NEVER is ready when a SM update is released. I
think I understand why, and it's not something that SM can fix, but it
sure wrecks my day-to-day user experience...




I first noticed it after after 2.13.1.  It's been there at least that
long.


but you're on Mac, Rufus, so, apparently, it's different for Windows.




Actually I'm a bit unclear on that, given what I've been reading of
late.  I think more Win users use the Default Theme and it doesn't sound
like it's been a problem there.

I myself had originally remarked that this was a Mac only problem, but
given that people on both platforms are now observing the problem, and
even pointed out to me one dialog Id missed it in just because of the
way I use SM, I have to think that if the problem is with the Theme
itself it was probably introduced to everyone at the same time/point.
It's just that more people are looking now.  I think...


Rufus, as the result is the same (sub=windows being drawn short) is now 
the same on Mac and Windows, I would expect the cause is the same, or at 
least very similar.


Jens asked me to file a bug for Windows incarnation, so I did, and, it 
would appear a solution is not far off.


Maybe a solution for Mac is just a little bit further off!! ;-)

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Re: Thanks everyone

[Paul B. Gallagher]

Ed Mullen wrote:


Judy Dolby wrote:

My sig file was on word pad always has been.  Checked it in notepad and
could see the HTMl.  Deleted the word pad one, removed the HTMLk in
notepad and saved it as text.  As you can see below it is now fixed.
Thanks again.
Judy



Uh, okay, is there a question in there somewhere???


There was, in another thread. She sent her thank-you note to a new thread.

See "Need Signature help" on Nov. 26, message id 
.


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Re: What theme do you use?

[Paul B. Gallagher]

Ed Mullen wrote:


What theme do you use?  Default? Modern?  Or some add-on?

I have used the Modern theme since it was introduced ... uh ... how many
many years ago?

I'm curious because of the cut off spell window thread that's been being
discussed and some contending that it's a problem with the theme, or so
it seems to me in some posts.

So, it would be interesting to get some sense as to what percentage of
SM users are on what theme.


I use the Default theme, and I have the problem.

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