Re: secondary font in email composition
jim j...@earthlink.com wrote: Seamonkey 2.9.1 that the email composition font is liable to change from your setting for html messages to variable font mixed (i think that is what it is) is not longer something i beat myself up for as something i am doing since i find out it happens to other people (and even with thunderbird). I found it several years ago and changed it form a serif (times roman or courier or similar) to match my primary arial composition font and size as close as possible and can not 'refind it since i have made a recent change in my html font from large to extra large. cutting to the chase: does anyone know where the setting for the secondary default font for email composition in Seamonkey is? jim Please note that once you change the font setting for mail composition, things become extremely buggy. You will not be able to predict what happens when you backspace, cut-and-paste, reply to part of a message, etc. It worked okay in the past but it has been broken and apparently it is not going to be fixed. It may work sort of reasonable in the extremely old version that you use. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Message pane opening after junk message viewing
On 20/01/14 15:31, Rubens wrote: Daniel wrote, on 18/1/2014 07:16: On 18/01/14 19:51, Allen wrote: Rubens wrote: Hello, In my mail view layout I don´t use the message pane (F8 keyboard shorcut). However, after opening a junk mail message which was wrongly marked as junk, the message panel comes up and remains active for any other message opened further, until I manually hide it again by clicking on its border or unchecking the option in the menu or pressing F8. That behaviour was not present in previous Seamonkey version. Is there any setting for disabling it ? Regards, Rubens I have observed the same thing and I find it annoying as well. Hopefully someone knows of a setting to completely disable the preview pane. Allen The only way I've heard of to disable the preview pane, is to drag the divider, between the Threads Pane and the Message Pane, to the bottom of the screen. I have done that, but it keeps coming back again every time a junk message is opened. All I can suggest, then, Rubens, is that it might be the SeaMonkey thinks this message is junk line that appears above the message header that is causing the change in visual display. Don't know why, nor how to stop it from happening! -- Daniel User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:26.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/26.0 SeaMonkey/2.23 Build identifier: 20131203183810 or User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:25.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/25.0 SeaMonkey/2.22 Build identifier: 20131023190942 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Appcrash issue
On 20/01/14 03:10, Rickles wrote: User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:26.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/26.0 SeaMonkey/2.23 Realise this is probably something on my PC rather than in internal SM fault, but I'm struggling to find a reason: randomly when *closing* SM, I get a Windows application error popup window. Application Event logs in Windows shows 2 consecutive events, id 1000 and 1001. They show the faulting app is seamonkey.exe, version 26.0.0.5092, and the faulting module is xul.dll, same version. The exception code is c005. SM runs normally, pages render as expected, etc. I usually have both a mail browser window open at the same time, but it doesn't seem to matter whether or not that's true. It's only when closing the browser when this happens. Here's the txt of the Windows Error Reporting event entry (ID 1001): Log Name: Application Source:Windows Error Reporting Date: 19/01/2014 15:55:24 Event ID: 1001 Task Category: None Level: Information Keywords: Classic User: N/A Computer: snipped Description: Fault bucket , type 0 Event Name: APPCRASH Response: Not available Cab Id: 0 Problem signature: P1: seamonkey.exe P2: 26.0.0.5092 P3: 52a7f685 P4: xul.dll P5: 26.0.0.5092 P6: 52a7f5d7 P7: c005 P8: 00cccdb1 P9: P10: I'm also having issues with Adobe Reader on the same PC, but I'm having the same lack of progress trying to diagnose that. Versions X or XI, it makes no difference (tried both, one at a time). They crash within a minute of opening; SM browser crashes when it's closed. Drivers firmware are up date across the board, so I'm getting desperate. All suggestions entertained. Rickles, can you have a look at Tools-Web Development-Error Console and hit the Clear button. Then, the next time you have your problem when closing SM, re-start SM and see what is posted in the Error Console, even posting the last entry here so the Dev's might be able to check it out for you. -- Daniel User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:26.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/26.0 SeaMonkey/2.23 Build identifier: 20131203183810 or User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:25.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/25.0 SeaMonkey/2.22 Build identifier: 20131023190942 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: secondary font in email composition
Rob wrote: jim j...@earthlink.com wrote: Seamonkey 2.9.1 that the email composition font is liable to change from your setting for html messages to variable font mixed (i think that is what it is) is not longer something i beat myself up for as something i am doing since i find out it happens to other people (and even with thunderbird). I found it several years ago and changed it form a serif (times roman or courier or similar) to match my primary arial composition font and size as close as possible and can not 'refind it since i have made a recent change in my html font from large to extra large. cutting to the chase: does anyone know where the setting for the secondary default font for email composition in Seamonkey is? jim Please note that once you change the font setting for mail composition, things become extremely buggy. You will not be able to predict what happens when you backspace, cut-and-paste, reply to part of a message, etc. It worked okay in the past but it has been broken and apparently it is not going to be fixed. It may work sort of reasonable in the extremely old version that you use. Strange you should say that; I've customized my font settings pretty extensively and not had any trouble as a result. I certainly haven't seen spaces vanish or characters move around without permission. Like Ed, I don't know what a secondary font could be. -- War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left. -- Paul B. Gallagher ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: secondary font in email composition
Paul B. Gallagher pau...@pbgdashtranslations.com wrote: Rob wrote: jim j...@earthlink.com wrote: Seamonkey 2.9.1 that the email composition font is liable to change from your setting for html messages to variable font mixed (i think that is what it is) is not longer something i beat myself up for as something i am doing since i find out it happens to other people (and even with thunderbird). I found it several years ago and changed it form a serif (times roman or courier or similar) to match my primary arial composition font and size as close as possible and can not 'refind it since i have made a recent change in my html font from large to extra large. cutting to the chase: does anyone know where the setting for the secondary default font for email composition in Seamonkey is? jim Please note that once you change the font setting for mail composition, things become extremely buggy. You will not be able to predict what happens when you backspace, cut-and-paste, reply to part of a message, etc. It worked okay in the past but it has been broken and apparently it is not going to be fixed. It may work sort of reasonable in the extremely old version that you use. Strange you should say that; I've customized my font settings pretty extensively and not had any trouble as a result. I certainly haven't seen spaces vanish or characters move around without permission. Yet there are several open bugs about this, and they all get blamed on the evil composer that nobody wants to touch. Users in our company get extremely irritated about it. Fortunately there is only 2.5 month to go to the Outlook switchover. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: secondary font in email composition
jim wrote: Seamonkey 2.9.1 that the email composition font is liable to change from your setting for html messages to variable font mixed (i think that is what it is) is not longer something i beat myself up for as something i am doing since i find out it happens to other people (and even with thunderbird). I found it several years ago and changed it form a serif (times roman or courier or similar) to match my primary arial composition font and size as close as possible and can not 'refind it since i have made a recent change in my html font from large to extra large. cutting to the chase: does anyone know where the setting for the secondary default font for email composition in Seamonkey is? jim Just wondering--might this be a Linux problem? The responses from Windows users (admittedly,only a few) don't seem to mention the problem. Larry S. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: secondary font in email composition
Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Rob wrote: jim j...@earthlink.com wrote: Seamonkey 2.9.1 that the email composition font is liable to change from your setting for html messages to variable font mixed (i think that is what it is) is not longer something i beat myself up for as something i am doing since i find out it happens to other people (and even with thunderbird). I found it several years ago and changed it form a serif (times roman or courier or similar) to match my primary arial composition font and size as close as possible and can not 'refind it since i have made a recent change in my html font from large to extra large. cutting to the chase: does anyone know where the setting for the secondary default font for email composition in Seamonkey is? jim Please note that once you change the font setting for mail composition, things become extremely buggy. You will not be able to predict what happens when you backspace, cut-and-paste, reply to part of a message, etc. It worked okay in the past but it has been broken and apparently it is not going to be fixed. It may work sort of reasonable in the extremely old version that you use. Strange you should say that; I've customized my font settings pretty extensively and not had any trouble as a result. I certainly haven't seen spaces vanish or characters move around without permission. Like Ed, I don't know what a secondary font could be. Probably it is the font used by the sender of the message rather than the one you choose to display messages. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: secondary font in email composition
On 01/19/2014 01:15 PM, jim wrote: Seamonkey 2.9.1 that the email composition font is liable to change from your setting for html messages to variable font mixed (i think that is what it is) is not longer something i beat myself up for as something i am doing since i find out it happens to other people (and even with thunderbird). I found it several years ago and changed it form a serif (times roman or courier or similar) to match my primary arial composition font and size as close as possible and can not 'refind it since i have made a recent change in my html font from large to extra large. cutting to the chase: does anyone know where the setting for the secondary default font for email composition in Seamonkey is? jim Did not know there could be a second default. Default in Computer Science is, A particular setting or value for a variable that is assigned automatically by an operating system and remains in effect unless canceled or overridden by the operator: REF: [default - definition of default by the Free Online Dictionary, Thesaurus and Encyclopedia.](http://www.thefreedictionary.com/default) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
FYI: Favicon Picker 2 add-on breaks the Bookmarks Manager
Hi! This is just a quick heads up in case anyone else is (still) using the Favicon Picker 2 add-on (the modded version available from Philip Chee's xSiderbar site, which unfortunately is currently down together with the rest of MozDev): It breaks SeaMonkey's Bookmarks Manager. More specifically, the editing area on the bottom right shows Name: [Bookmarks Toolbar ] no matter what you select in the top right pane, so you cannot easily edit any bookmarks. Maybe more is broken; I guess the initialization is somehow interrupted. Anyway, once the faulty add-on has been disabled or removed (and SM restarted), the Bookmarks Manager will work normally again. A suitable replacement might be the Bookmark Favicon Changer add-on which is readily available from AMO. HTH Jens -- Jens Hatlak http://jens.hatlak.de/ SeaMonkey Trunk Tracker http://smtt.blogspot.com/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Downloads files instead of Opening them
Paul B. Gallagher wrote: stan pierce wrote: Dave Taylor wrote: I must have hit some switch? Now SM is only offering me the option of downloading files to the DLs file. Inconvenient. I used to be able to open them directly from an email or website. Even when I right-click Open the only thing it will do is DL them. EditPrefsBrowserDownloads is set to: Open DL manager, Save Files to DL folder. No option to Open instead of Download. Thanks! SM2.23 Win7 How do I add to Helper applications so jpeg files won't end up in the Download list? If SM is automatically downloading them without asking, you must already have that file type listed. Look carefully through the helper applications list, find the place where jpeg is listed as Save File, and change it to the desired behavior. It should be easy to find, since the default sort is alphabetical by content type -- look in the J's. jpeg is not in my Helper list. Is there a way to add it? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Appcrash issue
Daniel wrote: On 20/01/14 03:10, Rickles wrote: User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:26.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/26.0 SeaMonkey/2.23 Realise this is probably something on my PC rather than in internal SM fault, but I'm struggling to find a reason: randomly when *closing* SM, I get a Windows application error popup window. Application Event logs in Windows shows 2 consecutive events, id 1000 and 1001. They show the faulting app is seamonkey.exe, version 26.0.0.5092, and the faulting module is xul.dll, same version. The exception code is c005. SM runs normally, pages render as expected, etc. I usually have both a mail browser window open at the same time, but it doesn't seem to matter whether or not that's true. It's only when closing the browser when this happens. Here's the txt of the Windows Error Reporting event entry (ID 1001): Log Name: Application Source:Windows Error Reporting Date: 19/01/2014 15:55:24 Event ID: 1001 Task Category: None Level: Information Keywords: Classic User: N/A Computer: snipped Description: Fault bucket , type 0 Event Name: APPCRASH Response: Not available Cab Id: 0 Problem signature: P1: seamonkey.exe P2: 26.0.0.5092 P3: 52a7f685 P4: xul.dll P5: 26.0.0.5092 P6: 52a7f5d7 P7: c005 P8: 00cccdb1 P9: P10: I'm also having issues with Adobe Reader on the same PC, but I'm having the same lack of progress trying to diagnose that. Versions X or XI, it makes no difference (tried both, one at a time). They crash within a minute of opening; SM browser crashes when it's closed. Drivers firmware are up date across the board, so I'm getting desperate. All suggestions entertained. Rickles, can you have a look at Tools-Web Development-Error Console and hit the Clear button. Then, the next time you have your problem when closing SM, re-start SM and see what is posted in the Error Console, even posting the last entry here so the Dev's might be able to check it out for you. Many thanks for the suggestion. Since my posting, I thought I had a lead on being able to reproduce the issue, but no such luck. I'll keep trying, though. That error console gets a lot of entries quickly, doesn't it? Shows how badly most pages seem to be written. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Appcrash issue
Daniel wrote: On 20/01/14 03:10, Rickles wrote: User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:26.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/26.0 SeaMonkey/2.23 Realise this is probably something on my PC rather than in internal SM fault, but I'm struggling to find a reason: randomly when *closing* SM, I get a Windows application error popup window. Application Event logs in Windows shows 2 consecutive events, id 1000 and 1001. They show the faulting app is seamonkey.exe, version 26.0.0.5092, and the faulting module is xul.dll, same version. The exception code is c005. SM runs normally, pages render as expected, etc. I usually have both a mail browser window open at the same time, but it doesn't seem to matter whether or not that's true. It's only when closing the browser when this happens. Here's the txt of the Windows Error Reporting event entry (ID 1001): Log Name: Application Source:Windows Error Reporting Date: 19/01/2014 15:55:24 Event ID: 1001 Task Category: None Level: Information Keywords: Classic User: N/A Computer: snipped Description: Fault bucket , type 0 Event Name: APPCRASH Response: Not available Cab Id: 0 Problem signature: P1: seamonkey.exe P2: 26.0.0.5092 P3: 52a7f685 P4: xul.dll P5: 26.0.0.5092 P6: 52a7f5d7 P7: c005 P8: 00cccdb1 P9: P10: I'm also having issues with Adobe Reader on the same PC, but I'm having the same lack of progress trying to diagnose that. Versions X or XI, it makes no difference (tried both, one at a time). They crash within a minute of opening; SM browser crashes when it's closed. Drivers firmware are up date across the board, so I'm getting desperate. All suggestions entertained. Rickles, can you have a look at Tools-Web Development-Error Console and hit the Clear button. Then, the next time you have your problem when closing SM, re-start SM and see what is posted in the Error Console, even posting the last entry here so the Dev's might be able to check it out for you. I think these errors are related to Flash (did it with v11.9, now does it with v12.0). I've seen articles about other issues people have had, but never had an issue till now. I managed to get SM to fail at closing, while a Flash video from the BBC news site was playing. The application crash recurred, and the only Error statement in the console was this: Timestamp: 20/01/2014 20:44:06 Error: DEPRECATION WARNING: nsIContentPrefService is deprecated. Please use nsIContentPrefService2 instead. You may find more details about this deprecation at: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/XPCOM_Interface_Reference/nsIContentPrefService2 chrome://communicator/content/viewZoomOverlay.js 70 FullZoom_destroy chrome://communicator/content/viewZoomOverlay.js 392 unregisterZoomManager null 0 null Source File: resource://gre/modules/Deprecated.jsm Line: 79 I'll have to see if the same thing keeps ocurring. FYI: my wife's laptop (Win7 Home Premium) with the same SM install but older Flash isn't experiencing this behavior. Rick. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Need for Defender + Antivirus Program?
Hi, I have read conflicting ideas about the following, and would like to have some accurate advice. I am running Windows 7 Pro and Windows XP Pro on my 2 laptops, which both came with Windows Defender. I also run Avast antivirus software as well as SuperAntiSpyware. My XP laptop refuses to update the Defender, giving a repeat error notice,which Windows Fixit cannot fix. Are the Avast and antispyware sufficient? Do I need Defender also? Some articles even said that Defender will interfere with the other programs. Any feedback will really be appreciated. Thanks. Mort Linder ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
SeaMonkey 2.23 New Mail account Wizard
This wizard points to a point where it wants to edit an existing news account and does not ask if news or email. David Guymer ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey 2.23 New Mail account Wizard
David Guymer wrote: This wizard points to a point where it wants to edit an existing news account and does not ask if news or email. David Guymer Selecting File New Account doesn't open the New Account Setup wizard where you select Email account, Blogs News Feeds etc.? Next is the Identity window. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.20 Composer Insert does not display symbols in Firefox.
On Thursday, August 29, 2013 12:50:07 AM UTC-5, Ken F wrote: Composer inserts characters symbols display OK when preparing html webpages. When viewed on the web, Firefox will display a black diamond w/white ? for many (all?) of the inserted symbols characters. Example links: Test page - http://spontoon.rootoon.com/SPwTest1.html Looks OK in View/ Preview. In View/ html, the actual symbol seems to be inserted rather than an html code for the symbol. (The following may be a separate problem?) A page originally prepared in Mozilla Composer in 2001, with copyright symbols added in reloads every year. This last year it was not possible to directly insert a copyright symbol for 2013 - I had to cut--paste. Now, it appears in my Firefox browser that all the copyright symbols (and an accent-'e') have reverted to '?' (Unknown character?). http://spontoon.rootoon.com/SPwHome1.html My apologies in advance if I am overlooking any obvious html-development knowledge. Thank you for your patience, Ken Thanks for favors granted to the kami of Saint Seamonkey of Composer. I finally discovered the low-tech-knowledge fix, which was suggested by Trane Francks twice on this support group. I had not really understood what he was suggesting. (For over 10 years, most of my uploads had been a basic pattern of using the Composer symbols toolbar, rather than the top text toolbar on the screen.) I am a hobbyist website tinkerer. I don't really know all the capabilities of the Composer software. Recently, I went back to the Composer page, intending to check all the tool links to see if I had missed anything. Because you all shared the proper vocabulary for the changes I needed, I was able to recognize what the top-line Files drop-down buttons offered. Besides Save, there was (of course) Save change character encoding... with the drop-downs offered of many encoding systems... including Unicode (UTF-8). This may not be as elegant as using a form of global change software, I can go in and make the changes webpage by webpage, for the 100 or so webpages that have the encoding problem. I've been doing this. Thank you all for your comments so I could recognize the basic fix built into the Composer software. I do not know the reasons for why there was a change in the older webpage displays from 8 years ago or more (with changes starting about 2 years ago). Maybe I don't need to know, if I can do the fix. Several of you mentioned that the 'problem' character encoding in my webpage headers was for windows-1252. Is it a co-incidence that the drop-down list for Save change character encoding lists the codes alphabetically, and that Windows-1252 is at the bottom of the list (and the at-rest location of the cursor)? Thank you all, and thanks again to the kami of Seamonkey, Ken Fletcher ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: secondary font in email composition
Larry S. wrote: jim wrote: Seamonkey 2.9.1 that the email composition font is liable to change from your setting for html messages to variable font mixed (i think that is what it is) is not longer something i beat myself up for as something i am doing since i find out it happens to other people (and even with thunderbird). I found it several years ago and changed it form a serif (times roman or courier or similar) to match my primary arial composition font and size as close as possible and can not 'refind it since i have made a recent change in my html font from large to extra large. cutting to the chase: does anyone know where the setting for the secondary default font for email composition in Seamonkey is? jim Just wondering--might this be a Linux problem? The responses from Windows users (admittedly,only a few) don't seem to mention the problem. Larry S. Have never seen it here. Haven't heard anything about it from any of my linux using friends either. Dennis ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Odd scrolling behavior
Trane Francks wrote: On 1/20/14 5:54 AM +0900, Geoff Welsh wrote: Trane Francks wrote: On 1/19/14 12:14 PM +0900, Geoff Welsh wrote: Trane Francks wrote: On 1/19/14 10:05 AM +0900, Ed Mullen wrote: Ed Mullen wrote: Okay, here's a weird one. Someone was perusing one of my Web sites and said, to paraphrase: If I click in the vertical scroll bar below the handle (grippy) the page scrolls down more than one full screen. That is, the vast majority of pages (I've checked many) will scroll so that the bottom of the first page is now at the top. The pages on my site scroll up past that, so that the content of the initial screen is above the top of the page. Meaning that the user will be missing, not see, some content. I cannot give a definitive example since it depends to some extent upon browser window size. But, try it at, for instance: http://edmullen.net/mozilla/moz_combine.php I only give this page as an example because it requires several scroll-downs to see the entire page. Then try any Amazon.com page. I haven't found one where it happens. Oddly, having checked it in: IE 11 Opera 18 Chrome 32 Safari (Windows) 5 Pale Moon 24 Moz-based SeaMonkey 2 Moz-based Firefox 26 Moz-based only the Moz-based browsers exhibit the problem. I'm posting here first but it may be an HTML or CSS issue. Which I would then pursue in an appropriate Usenet group. I have tested this on a varity of sites online and most do not exhibit this but several do. Any thoughts welcome. One additional thing. John Gilliver, who mentioned this to me origianlly, noted that it only happens when clicking in the scroll bar space. It does NOT happen if using the PAGE DOWN key (in Windows). I confirmed that. Interesting. Yes, I've seen this behaviour before. It appears to me that clicking inside the scroll bar track bases the page-down behaviour on the overall size of the window rather than just the scrolling frame of the site. Pressing the space bar to page-down bases the behaviour on the frame. I'd call this a bug. The scroll slider moves to where I click. I'm not seeing any problem. GW To reproduce the issue, OS X must be configured to Jump to the next page, not Jump to the spot that's clicked. Is that a joke? Ever since my first mouse with a scroll wheel I have never even used the slider, I was just trying to duplicate the OP problem, and his page works fine for me.. GW No, that's not a joke. Maybe I didn't understand what you wrote, but I took what you wrote to mean that wherever you click in the scroll track, your page immediately scrolls to that position. That would, to me, indicate that your OS X is configured to 'Jump to the spot that's clicked'. If that is, indeed, the setting you've got in System Preferences/General, you will not be able to reproduce the OP's problem. Thanks, TF. since I have never heard of that or configured anything any differently on all five Macs I have used and they all work the same, I will stay out of this one. GW ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.20 Composer Insert does not display symbols in Firefox.
Ken F wrote: On Thursday, August 29, 2013 12:50:07 AM UTC-5, Ken F wrote: Composer inserts characters symbols display OK when preparing html webpages. When viewed on the web, Firefox will display a black diamond w/white ? for many (all?) of the inserted symbols characters. Example links: Test page - http://spontoon.rootoon.com/SPwTest1.html Looks OK in View/ Preview. In View/ html, the actual symbol seems to be inserted rather than an html code for the symbol. (The following may be a separate problem?) A page originally prepared in Mozilla Composer in 2001, with copyright symbols added in reloads every year. This last year it was not possible to directly insert a copyright symbol for 2013 - I had to cut--paste. Now, it appears in my Firefox browser that all the copyright symbols (and an accent-'e') have reverted to '?' (Unknown character?). http://spontoon.rootoon.com/SPwHome1.html My apologies in advance if I am overlooking any obvious html-development knowledge. Thank you for your patience, Ken Thanks for favors granted to the kami of Saint Seamonkey of Composer. I finally discovered the low-tech-knowledge fix, which was suggested by Trane Francks twice on this support group. I had not really understood what he was suggesting. (For over 10 years, most of my uploads had been a basic pattern of using the Composer symbols toolbar, rather than the top text toolbar on the screen.) I am a hobbyist website tinkerer. I don't really know all the capabilities of the Composer software. Recently, I went back to the Composer page, intending to check all the tool links to see if I had missed anything. Because you all shared the proper vocabulary for the changes I needed, I was able to recognize what the top-line Files drop-down buttons offered. Besides Save, there was (of course) Save change character encoding... with the drop-downs offered of many encoding systems... including Unicode (UTF-8). This may not be as elegant as using a form of global change software, I can go in and make the changes webpage by webpage, for the 100 or so webpages that have the encoding problem. I've been doing this. Thank you all for your comments so I could recognize the basic fix built into the Composer software. I do not know the reasons for why there was a change in the older webpage displays from 8 years ago or more (with changes starting about 2 years ago). Maybe I don't need to know, if I can do the fix. Several of you mentioned that the 'problem' character encoding in my webpage headers was for windows-1252. Is it a co-incidence that the drop-down list for Save change character encoding lists the codes alphabetically, and that Windows-1252 is at the bottom of the list (and the at-rest location of the cursor)? Thank you all, and thanks again to the kami of Seamonkey, Ken Fletcher Ken, you should be aware that development of the Web Composer part of SeaMonkey/Mozilla/Netscape stopped dead in it tracks MANY years ago. And it's an outdated model of Web development. Anyone serious about page dev learns CSS and HTML and writes in a plain-text editor which actually requires knowlege about HTML and CSS standards. The offshoots of Composer aren't much better nor much more well developed and I won't even mention them here. WYSIWG (What You See Is What You Get) editors like Composer are fairly disdained in serious Web design circles. They rarely produce good code and frequently produce horrible code that causes casual designers more grief than good. Learn HTML and CSS by using online resources and good books. Use the validator services to check your pages: http://validator.w3.org/ http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/ -- Ed Mullen http://edmullen.net/ The problem with internet quotes is you never know if they're actually authentic. - Abraham Lincoln ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Odd scrolling behavior
On 1/21/14 10:51 AM +0900, Geoff Welsh wrote: Trane Francks wrote: On 1/20/14 5:54 AM +0900, Geoff Welsh wrote: Trane Francks wrote: On 1/19/14 12:14 PM +0900, Geoff Welsh wrote: Trane Francks wrote: On 1/19/14 10:05 AM +0900, Ed Mullen wrote: Ed Mullen wrote: Okay, here's a weird one. Someone was perusing one of my Web sites and said, to paraphrase: If I click in the vertical scroll bar below the handle (grippy) the page scrolls down more than one full screen. That is, the vast majority of pages (I've checked many) will scroll so that the bottom of the first page is now at the top. The pages on my site scroll up past that, so that the content of the initial screen is above the top of the page. Meaning that the user will be missing, not see, some content. I cannot give a definitive example since it depends to some extent upon browser window size. But, try it at, for instance: http://edmullen.net/mozilla/moz_combine.php I only give this page as an example because it requires several scroll-downs to see the entire page. Then try any Amazon.com page. I haven't found one where it happens. Oddly, having checked it in: IE 11 Opera 18 Chrome 32 Safari (Windows) 5 Pale Moon 24 Moz-based SeaMonkey 2 Moz-based Firefox 26 Moz-based only the Moz-based browsers exhibit the problem. I'm posting here first but it may be an HTML or CSS issue. Which I would then pursue in an appropriate Usenet group. I have tested this on a varity of sites online and most do not exhibit this but several do. Any thoughts welcome. One additional thing. John Gilliver, who mentioned this to me origianlly, noted that it only happens when clicking in the scroll bar space. It does NOT happen if using the PAGE DOWN key (in Windows). I confirmed that. Interesting. Yes, I've seen this behaviour before. It appears to me that clicking inside the scroll bar track bases the page-down behaviour on the overall size of the window rather than just the scrolling frame of the site. Pressing the space bar to page-down bases the behaviour on the frame. I'd call this a bug. The scroll slider moves to where I click. I'm not seeing any problem. GW To reproduce the issue, OS X must be configured to Jump to the next page, not Jump to the spot that's clicked. Is that a joke? Ever since my first mouse with a scroll wheel I have never even used the slider, I was just trying to duplicate the OP problem, and his page works fine for me.. GW No, that's not a joke. Maybe I didn't understand what you wrote, but I took what you wrote to mean that wherever you click in the scroll track, your page immediately scrolls to that position. That would, to me, indicate that your OS X is configured to 'Jump to the spot that's clicked'. If that is, indeed, the setting you've got in System Preferences/General, you will not be able to reproduce the OP's problem. Thanks, TF. since I have never heard of that or configured anything any differently on all five Macs I have used and they all work the same, I will stay out of this one. GW Understood and very fair. OS X supports two different scrolling paradigms. In yours, clicking half-way down a scroll track takes you half-way down the document. In my configuration, no matter where in the scroll track I click, it only scrolls down one page. When I want to jump to that point in the document via clicking the scroll track, I Opt-click in the track, which is useful to jump to the top or bottom of a document. Cheers, trane -- / // Trane Franckstr...@gol.comTokyo, Japan // Practice random kindness and senseless acts of beauty. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey 2.23 New Mail account Wizard
WaltS wrote: David Guymer wrote: This wizard points to a point where it wants to edit an existing news account and does not ask if news or email. David Guymer Selecting File New Account doesn't open the New Account Setup wizard where you select Email account, Blogs News Feeds etc.? Next is the Identity window. Yes it opens the identity Window on an existing account from either the add account (Mail andNews Properties) or Create a new account from the front window. David Guymer ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
