Re: Does a _VIABLE_ SeaMonkey USENET group already exist?

[Chris Ilias]

On 2021-04-01 9:48 a.m., Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:

I found netscape.public.mozilla.seamonkey on both nntp.aioe.org and
news.eternal-september.org.  Messages were posted there as recently as
today.


Not viable.  It is hosted on the Mozilla servers and is presumably going 
to be terminated at the same time.



The netscape.public.* hierarchy is on Usenet, and was on Usenet before 
this server existed. Those newsgroups will still be available on Usenet 
when this server shuts down.


The inability to close down or rename old newsgroups is one of the 
reasons why these groups are not fed to Usenet.



For more information, see 



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Re: Is this list being shutdown and Seamonkey and Firefox and Thunderbird being assimilated into the Borg

[Chris Ilias]

On 2021-03-28 8:52 a.m., Bret Busby wrote:

Please see the message below.

I note that this list is hosted on lists.mozilla.org

-- Forwarded message --
From: Chris Ilias 
Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2021 16:11:20 -0400
Subject: **THIS FORUM WILL BE SHUT DOWN SOON**
To: mozilla-support-fire...@lists.mozilla.org

*WHAT IS HAPPENING*
Mozilla is shutting down the newsgroup server (news.mozilla.org) and
mailing lists (list.mozilla.org).


Hi everyone,
I'm pretty sure Edmund Wong is the administrator of this list, so any 
announcements should come from him.


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Re: about:config can I delete some entries

[Chris Ilias]

On 2021-02-16 12:59 p.m., Ray Davison wrote:

Danny Kile wrote:
About:config can I delete some entries? 


The preferred way to make a new entry is to create a USER.JS file.  That 
way you can add anything you want without any fear of damage to PREFS.JS.



Preferred by whom? :)

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Re: SeaMonkey doesn't always stop !

[Chris Ilias]

On 2020-12-29 9:46 a.m., DoctorBill wrote:

WaltS48 wrote:

DoctorBill wrote:

Every once in a while, when I Exit SeaMonkey, I can't get back into it
and I get a Message Onscreen that it is ALREADY running and I need to
Exit it..(?)

So I click the "Exit" button presented to me and THEN it starts up 
again !
This makes no sense to mebut then again most of the World now 
doesn't

make sense anymore.

What is that all about ?


How do you exit SeaMonkey?

Using the Close "x" in the window may leave a process running.

I always use File > Quit from the Menu.

.
Yup !  I've been using "X" from the Windows !

OK.  Lesson learned !   Thank you !


Hi Bill,
If it's the only SeaMonkey window open, clicking on the X should exit 
SeaMonkey just fine.


In another thread, you mentioned clearing private data. If you have 
SeaMonkey set to clear private data on close, it's possible that it's 
still clearing that data.


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Re: How so I make Seamonkey use the system default browser (chrome)?

[Chris Ilias]

On 2020-12-02 10:21 a.m., flyguy wrote:
I've set Chrome as my system default, but Seamonkey still shows and uses 
Seamonkey's browser. How do I get it to use Chrome when I click links in 
Seamonkey mail? Please note that I've been using Seamonkey for decades - 
this is not a newbie's uninformed question.


Hi flyguy,
If you click on a link in SeaMonkey mail and newsgroups, it will open in 
the SeaMonkey browser, regardless of what your system default is set to. 
SeaMonkey is hard-coded to do that.


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Mozilla Forum Etiquette violation warning (was: Re: Is anybody else still using Win 7 here?)

[Chris Ilias]

On 2020-07-01 11:34 a.m., Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote:


Does 
https://www.ghacks.net/2010/08/11/how-to-block-specific-updates-in-windows-update/ 
help?  The advice is almost 10 years old but it fits what I remember.




Hi Don,
Your posting address does not appear to be valid, so this message is 
being posted here.


There have been quite a few instances where you have posted off-topic 
messages in the Mozilla support newsgroups. I want to make make sure 
that you are aware of the forum rules. Please read them at 
.


If it would help you to see which posts I considered off-topic, please 
just e-mail me back.


It's important to remember that the reason people subscribe to the 
Mozilla Support newsgroups or mailing lists is for user support; and if 
they have to read through many messages that are of no help in their use 
of the product, they're not getting what they subscribed for.


If you do want to post an off-topic message, there a few things you can do:
* You can reply to the poster via private email
* You can suggest taking the discussion to a place where the discussion 
would not be off-topic.
* You can force replies to be sent to the mozilla.general, where 
off-topic discussion is allowed. To do that, just set the Followup-To 
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If you'd like to reply to this message, please email me with a valid 
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Re: Is there a way to find out where my bookmark is located in SM's Library?

[Chris Ilias]

On 2020-05-10 11:35 p.m., Ant wrote:
Like what folder(s) it is in? I had to export my Library to 
bookmarks.html to see where my bookmark is under. I was hoping to avoid 
using that method.


Hi Ant,
A great person asked this same question not too long ago. You can view 
the thread and it's answers here: 
https://groups.google.com/d/topic/mozilla.support.seamonkey/tRDQkWgjBNU/discussion


If there's any part of the answer you need help with, just let us know.

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Re: open email links in Firefo, not in seamonkey browser

[Chris Ilias]

On 2020-04-15 11:36 a.m., Steve wrote:

I use the seamonkey mail client as my standard mail program und er win 10.

When I click on any link in my E-mails, they are opened with the 
seamonkey browser.


How can I change this to Firefox. My standard browser is Firefox under 
win 10 already


Hi Steve,
If you click on a link in SeaMonkey mail and newsgroups, it will open in 
the SeaMonkey browser, regardless of what your system default is set to. 
SeaMonkey is hard-coded to do that.


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Re: Where to now??

[Chris Ilias]

On 2020-03-05 5:45 a.m., Daniel wrote:
For a couple of years now, I've been looking in on the SeaMonkey irc 
channel on the Moznet irc server.


But now that that irc server has been closed, where should I be, please??


Hi Daniel,
The successor to irc.mozilla.org is https://chat.mozilla.org

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Re: SM 2.53.1b1 file bookmark

[Chris Ilias]

On 2020-01-26 1:44 p.m., Ray Davison wrote:

Hartmut Figge wrote:


I deleted xulstore.json.  That resulted in SM 2.49.5 having he same
problem.  I restored the profile and got 2.49.5 OK again.


Did you try safe mode and a new test profile? Those are the standard
ways for problems.


Starting with Netscape, I don't recall ever running anything called safe 
mode, tho I am familiar with the term.  SM help "safe mode" yields 
nothing.  Is there a run switch for safe mode?


Hi Ray,
To start in SeaMonkey Safe Mode, just go to 
Help-->Restart_with_Add-ons_Disabled.

Here's a screenshot: 

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Re: Support The Fork?

[Chris Ilias]

On 2019-12-11 12:28 p.m., Larry S. wrote:

What the heck is Support The Fork? Anyone?


Hi Larry,
Someone has subscribed that address to the mailing list, and as a 
result, that address is auto-replying to messages sent to the mailing list.


To get it fixed, you will need to contact the support-seamonkey list 
admin to remove that address from the subscriber list.


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Re: How to move logins data to a new profile?

[Chris Ilias]

On 2019-11-11 4:41 a.m., Manuel Casal Lodeiro wrote:
My moving to a new profile as a solution to the multi-failure that we 
referring with subject "Multiple failures after disk became full 
(Linux)" is progressing quite well.


Finally I decided to put all acounts again in a single profile, and it's 
going ok, but I cannot get the saved logins (website signing data) to 
work in the new profile.


I've moved the following files, from the old profile to the new one, as 
I can see in http://kb.mozillazine.org/Profile_folder_-_SeaMonkey that 
they store this kind of data:

- key3.db
- signons.sqlite
and also a
- signons3.txt
I saw at the original (damaged) profile

Should I also move logins.json ? (I can't find it that Profile reference 
page) Or what else am I missing?


Yes, you should move logins.json and key3.db.
That mozillazine page is out of date, and no longer maintained. Use the 
instructions in the following page: 



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Re: Can't reach some websites

[Chris Ilias]

On 2019-11-01 2:02 p.m., Paul B. Gallagher wrote:








As per , 
Paul's post was removed from the news server because it contains a 
personal attack.


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Re: Can't reach some websites

[Chris Ilias]

On 2019-12-02 10:43 a.m., Jeffry Wisnia wrote:


Well, my clock now says 11-01-19. I'll see what happens now.


Hi Jeffry,
According to the timestamp on your latest post, your clock is still a 
month ahead. There are instructions for this issue for Windows 7 users 
at 
.

They should for SeaMonkey as well.

Windows XP instructions are gone. :)

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Re: Viewing the List

[Chris Ilias]

On 2019-10-13 1:37 a.m., crogon...@gmail.com wrote:

On Saturday, October 12, 2019 at 11:19:02 AM UTC-6, Bud Krueger wrote:

Yesterday I joined the list.  Trouble is --- I don't know how to read,
or post to, the list.
Help, please.


This list? This is a news group. 


This forum is an amalgamation of a mailing list, newsgroup, and google 
group. Every message sent to the mailing list (hosted by Mozilla) is fed 
to the newsgroup (hosted by Giganews). Every message posted to the 
newsgroup is sent to the mailing list, and fed (along with messages from 
the mailing list) to the Google Group (hosted by Google). Every message 
posted to the Google Group is fed to the newsgroup, which then sends it 
to the mailing list. Using this method, people can subscribe and post 
messages via whichever of the three access-points they prefer, and still 
get the benefit of community members from other access points.

Basically, instead of being three separate forums, it appears as one.

In Bud's case, he's using the mailing list, which can be subscribed to 
by going to https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey


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Re: How to find where a specific bookmark is in my SM's Bookmark Manager?

[Chris Ilias]

On 2019-09-23 4:33 p.m., Dirk Fieldhouse wrote:

On 23/09/19 18:52, Chris Ilias wrote:

On 2019-09-23 11:56 a.m., Lemuel Johnson wrote:
...> In those cases, you can go back to the bookmark you clicked on, 
and edit the bookmark URL, then repeat the steps above.


But as I noted in my post above of 22/09/19 23:15, this still

a)    doesn't actually work now, and

b)    couldn't work in general since the mapping URL -> bookmark can be 
undefined (bookmark (n)-->(1) URL).


Here's a video of me testing it just now: 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ku146eK_wS0


Maybe we're referring to different things?

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Re: How to find where a specific bookmark is in my SM's Bookmark Manager?

[Chris Ilias]

On 2019-09-23 11:56 a.m., Lemuel Johnson wrote:

On 9/22/2019 8:44 AM, Chris Ilias wrote:

On 2019-09-21 4:19 p.m., Ant wrote:
I have so many bookmarks (since Netscape days (yep, I'm old!)) that I 
have to organize them into folders. I know my bookmarks exist when I 
do searches, but the found bookmarks doesn't tell me where they are 
in the manager. Is there a way to know where exactly my bookmarks are 
in its manager (e.g., which folders?)?


1. Go to the bookmarked page.
2. Click on the bookmark icon in the location bar. Beside "Folder", it 
should tell you the name of the folder the bookmark resides in.
3. If you don't know where that folder is located, click on the down 
arrow beside it, which will open the folder tree.




The problem with this approach is that if the bookmarked URL now 
redirects to a different location (or even replaces 'http' with https') 
the bookmark icon just creates a new bookmark instead of opening the 
Edit Bookmark dialog.


In those cases, you can go back to the bookmark you clicked on, and edit 
the bookmark URL, then repeat the steps above.


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Re: How to find where a specific bookmark is in my SM's Bookmark Manager?

[Chris Ilias]

On 2019-09-21 4:19 p.m., Ant wrote:
I have so many bookmarks (since Netscape days (yep, I'm old!)) that I 
have to organize them into folders. I know my bookmarks exist when I do 
searches, but the found bookmarks doesn't tell me where they are in the 
manager. Is there a way to know where exactly my bookmarks are in its 
manager (e.g., which folders?)?


1. Go to the bookmarked page.
2. Click on the bookmark icon in the location bar. Beside "Folder", it 
should tell you the name of the folder the bookmark resides in.
3. If you don't know where that folder is located, click on the down 
arrow beside it, which will open the folder tree.


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Re: changing default browser

[Chris Ilias]

On 2019-08-28 9:19 a.m., Daniel wrote:

Chris Ilias wrote on 28/08/2019 9:43 PM:

On 2019-08-28 7:38 a.m., Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Chris Ilias wrote:

On 2019-08-27 11:19 p.m., Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Chris Ilias wrote:

If you click on a link in SeaMonkey mail and newsgroups, it will 
open in the SeaMonkey browser, regardless of what your system 
default is set to. SeaMonkey is hard-coded to do that.


But there's a tweak that's been discussed here to have the system 
use a different browser even when the page is called from SM. Don't 
you remember what that was? (I don't...)


Ah! Found it!
<http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?f=40=2438561>
<http://codeverge.com/mozilla.support.thunderbird/clicking-on-url-link-in-tb-does-n/1989559> 


Is that still valid seven years later?


It was no longer valid when SeaMonkey 2.0 was released. :)


OK, so what's the current tweak?


There isn't one.

ChrisI, I remember that there was a (mail or mailnews) Pref that could 
be changed, by going into about:config and changing that pref so that 
any link in Mail/News that was clicked on would cause SM (or was it Moz 
Suite or even Netscape Suite) to not use its browser to display the web 
site but would, instead, cause the System's Default Browser to open, 
displaying the appropriate web page.


Do you recall this happening?? Do any of the SM Devs recall this 
happening??


It no longer worked when SeaMonkey 2.0 was released. :)

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Re: changing default browser

[Chris Ilias]

On 2019-08-28 7:38 a.m., Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Chris Ilias wrote:


On 2019-08-27 11:19 p.m., Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Chris Ilias wrote:

If you click on a link in SeaMonkey mail and newsgroups, it will 
open in the SeaMonkey browser, regardless of what your system 
default is set to. SeaMonkey is hard-coded to do that.


But there's a tweak that's been discussed here to have the system use 
a different browser even when the page is called from SM. Don't you 
remember what that was? (I don't...)


Ah! Found it!
<http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?f=40=2438561>
<http://codeverge.com/mozilla.support.thunderbird/clicking-on-url-link-in-tb-does-n/1989559> 



Is that still valid seven years later?


It was no longer valid when SeaMonkey 2.0 was released. :)


OK, so what's the current tweak?


There isn't one.

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Re: changing default browser

[Chris Ilias]

On 2019-08-27 11:19 p.m., Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Chris Ilias wrote:

If you click on a link in SeaMonkey mail and newsgroups, it will open 
in the SeaMonkey browser, regardless of what your system default is 
set to. SeaMonkey is hard-coded to do that.


But there's a tweak that's been discussed here to have the system use a 
different browser even when the page is called from SM. Don't you 
remember what that was? (I don't...)


Ah! Found it!
<http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?f=40=2438561>
<http://codeverge.com/mozilla.support.thunderbird/clicking-on-url-link-in-tb-does-n/1989559> 



Is that still valid seven years later?


It was no longer valid when SeaMonkey 2.0 was released. :)

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Re: changing default browser

[Chris Ilias]

On 2019-08-27 12:15 p.m., dirk wrote:
In seamonkey my default browswer is. seamonkey and I can NOT 
change that (greyed out)


How do I change that to i.e. Chrome???


If you click on a link in SeaMonkey mail and newsgroups, it will open in 
the SeaMonkey browser, regardless of what your system default is set to. 
SeaMonkey is hard-coded to do that.


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Re: (En/Dis)able JS in SeaMonkey's email client?

[Chris Ilias]

On 2019-05-30 1:38 p.m., Jonathan N. Little wrote:

Even with HTML format javascript doesn't work in the mail client window.
IIRC the option to enable javascript in the mail client "died" in NS
Navigator.


It was removed in SeaMonkey 2.0. :)

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Re: Copying a single email folder to another machine - How?

[Chris Ilias]

On 2018-12-22 3:01 p.m., Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Chris Ilias wrote:


* Manually copy the folder...

1. On your destination PC, create sub-folders in the Local Folders 
account for the folder you want to import.


This step (creating dummy files that you will immediately overwrite) 
really isn't necessary. If you just drop the corresponding mail folder 
into the corresponding (sub)folder of the mail directory with SM closed, 
it'll recognize them as soon as it wakes up.


For example, on Windows 7, if you drop it into
C:\Users\\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles 
\9bzizhmz.slt\Mail\Local Folders\

you should be good.

The only time this would be an issue is if SM on one computer has 
subfolders in the target directory and the other doesn't. You can tell 
at a glance because all subfolders are named *.sbd.


I suppose it could also be useful if you're not sure where to put the 
folder you're transferring, but I assume you already know that.


Thanks, Paul! :)

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Re: Copying a single email folder to another machine - How?

[Chris Ilias]

On 2018-12-22 12:48 p.m., Richard Owlett wrote:

On 12/22/2018 10:04 AM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Richard Owlett wrote:

I know it is possible to copy a single e-mail folder from one machine 
to another. I've just forgotten how to do it.


The situation:
My primary machine went to the shop for repair.
I had to use a secondary machine for a while.
I set up a mail filter to copy all incoming mail to a new folder 
before applying my other filters.


How do I copy that single folder to me primary machine when it 
returns from the shop?


Two options:

1) Network the two computers, transfer over the network using your 
operating system's file-copying features;


2) Use the "sneakernet" (copy to removable media such as a flash 
drive, move the removable media to the target computer, use your OS's 
file-copying features).





 Sneakers not needed. The machines are 18" apart.

Evidently question poorly stated.
How do I copy a single sub-folder from my inbox tree to a USB drive?
And inversely how do I copy it to the second machine's inbox?

Thank you


There are a couple of ways to accomplish what you want.

* Use IMAP. :)

* Manually copy the folder...

1. On your destination PC, create sub-folders in the Local Folders 
account for the folder you want to import.


2. On your temporary PC, open SeaMonkey, go to 
Help-->Troubleshooting_Information, click on [Open Folder], and close 
SeaMonkey. That will open your profile folder in Windows Explorer.


3. In your profile, go to the \Mail\ folder, then open the directory 
containing the folder you want to import. It should be named after the 
server. (For example /Mail/pop.mail.yahoo.com/)


4. Copy the file named after the folder that doesn't have an extension 
to a USB stick or whatever you're using to transfer the data from one 
computer to the other.


5. On your destination PC, open SeaMonkey, go to
Help-->Troubleshooting_Information, click on [Open Folder], and close 
SeaMonkey. That will open your profile folder in Windows Explorer.


6. In your profile, go to the \Mail\ folder, then the \Local Folders\
folder.

7. There should be files for each folder you want to import that you 
created in step 1. In this step replace the those files with the ones 
from your USB stick. They should have the same names.


8. Open SeaMonkey. In your Local Folders account, you should see 
folders/messages from your old computer. At that point, you can drag and 
drop the messages between folders within SeaMonkey.


...but I recommend using an IMAP account for this.

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Re: Creating a short-cut for a Bookmark

[Chris Ilias]

On 2018-12-20 5:30 a.m., Daniel wrote:
One of the sites I regularly visit (daily) is fairly long. I've got it 
bookmarked (three times, apparently), but, rather than going looking for 
it, I usually just enter two letters (i.e. sw) in the Address Bar, which 
brings up a drop-down list of visited sites that includes those two 
letter, and then I select the required web-address and job done! ;-)


Occasionally, however, instead of click on the required address in the 
drop-down list, I just hit 'Enter' which takes me off to a DuckDuckGo 
page of web sites that include those two letters (sw) together. Job not 
done! ;-(


Looking at the Bookmarks Manager, it has an entry for "Tag:". If I place 
the 'sw' as a tag, then, when I enter the 'sw' in the Address Bar, will 
SM then select my bookmark and save me having to click on the entry in 
the drop-down list??


Or would that be a 'Keyword'?? Something else??

TIA


Hi Daniel,
What you're looking for is the keyword feature.
Try the instructions in the following article: 
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Re: 32bit & 64bit SM questions.

[Chris Ilias]

On 2018-10-11 4:03 p.m., Ant wrote:

A couple questions:

1. Is the official Mac SeaMonkey 64-bit or 32-bit for Mac OS X Sierra 
v10.12.6 on a 2012 13.3" MacBook Pro (MBP) with 8 GB of RAM and 500 GB SSD?


On Mac, SeaMonkey has been 64-bit since version 2.1.

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Re: Word of Warning !

[Chris Ilias]

On 2018-09-16 6:18 p.m., DoctorBill wrote:
I have a friend who downloaded the so called FREE  "AVIRA" - an 



As per , I've 
removed DoctorBill's post, because it contains a personal attack.


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Re: [OT] Re: Word of Warning !

[Chris Ilias]

On 2018-09-18 9:47 a.m., FredW wrote:

On Tue, 18 Sep 2018 01:21:34 +0200, Ray_Net
 wrote:

FredW wrote on 18-09-18 00:15:

On Mon, 17 Sep 2018 12:45:24 -0700, Ron Lesan 
wrote:

On Mon, Sep 17, 2018 at 7:30 AM GerardJan 
wrote:

FredW wrote:

On Sun, 16 Sep 2018 15:18:44 -0700, DoctorBill  wrote:

Thanks for the warning - - - I've downloaded it but haven't scanned my
computer yet. Now will try to delete it before it causes harm.


Why did you download it (whatever IT may be) in the first place when you
now want to delete IT.
What harm could IT do, when you have only downloaded it?

Me thinks you have no idea what you are talking about and believing a
clearly fake story.


[also it is most unclear to whom you are replying.]


On the AVIRA forum, it's written:
-
download avira from this link: http://www.avira.com/en/avira-free-antivirus
-

Downloading elsewhere is suspicious ...


NOTE:
When you said:
"Your " friend" "MD" is apparently one of those noobs, blaming software
from some/any source for stupid mistakes they make without realizing
what they are doing."

Don't be so  blaming the guy - because the OPS said:
"My friend is a retired..."
So, he is surely older and less specialist than you in computer science.
So you have to excuse it.









As per , I've 
removed FredW's post, because it contains a personal attack.


Also, would everyone please note that this entire thread is off-topic. 
If you do want to post an off-topic message, there a few things you can do:

* You can reply to the poster via private email
* You can suggest taking the discussion to a place where the discussion 
would not be off-topic.
* You can force replies to be sent to the mozilla.general, where 
off-topic discussion is allowed. To do that, just set the Followup-To 
header on your post. [Demonstration video: 
]


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Re: Increase size of font in bookmarks

[Chris Ilias]

On 2018-09-12 8:02 a.m., Andy K wrote:

Is it possible to increase the size of font used in bookmarks?

https://www.dropbox.com/s/wnk2sy7q3l845 ... s.png?dl=0


Try the instructions in the following article, and see if it still 
works: .


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Re: Widevine Content Decryption Module plugin

[Chris Ilias]

On 2018-09-03 10:32 a.m., Andy K wrote:


I cant get netflix to play movies on my computer.

I get error code F7352.

I think I need this, but can't find it.

Widevine Content Decryption Module plugin


SeaMonkey is not included in the supported browsers for HTML5 at 
https://help.netflix.com/en/node/23742


My guess is that you don't have the Silverlight plugin installed.

Widevine Content Decryption Module plugin comes pre-installed in 
Firefox, and is used to decrypt content controlled with Digital Rights 
Management (DRM).

More info: 
It is not included with SeaMonkey.

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Re: BOOKMARKS

[Chris Ilias]

On 2018-08-14 6:04 p.m., wwel...@gmail.com wrote:

How can I import my BOOKMARKS from my IMAC to my Mac Lap top?

First (on my IMAC) I went to MANAGE BOOKMARKS and then EXPORT the html file. 
Then I e mailed this file to my own e mail. On my wife's Mac laptop in SM I 
went to MANAGE BOOKMARKS and clicked on IMPORT but nothing happened!



1. Go to Help-->Troubleshooting_Information.
2. Click on [Show in Finder].
3. Quit SeaMonkey.
4. Go to the folder "bookmarkbackups"
5. Copy the latest backup file (there should be a date in each file name).
6. On your destination Mac, open SeaMonkey then go to 
Bookmarks-->Manage_Bookmarks.
7. Go to Tools-->Restore-->Choose_File, and select the file you copied 
in step 5.


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Re: Programmed Obsolescence

[Chris Ilias]

On 2018-05-21 4:41 PM, Francois LE COAT wrote:

Chris Ilias writes:

Francois LE COAT wrote:

Why versions of SeaMonkey are not available for Mac OS X 10.6.8 ? It's
called "Programmed Obsolescence" because there's nothing to explain !

>> The underlying Mozilla code that SeaMonkey uses no longer supports macOS
10.6.


Well, it "free sofware" ! Why wouldn't it happen under GNU/Linux ? 


Here's a direct quote from the time it was announced for Firefox in 2016:
"The motivation for this change is that we have continued failures that
are specific to these old operating systems and don't have the resources
on engineering teams to prioritize these bugs. Especially with the
deployment of e10s we're seeing intermittent and permanently failures on
MacOS 10.6 that we are not seeing elsewhere. We get very little testing
of old MacOS versions from our prerelease testers and cannot dedicate
much paid staff testing support to these platforms. We also have an
increasingly fragile set of old hardware that supports automated tests
on 10.6 and do not intend to replace this.

This will affect approximately 1.2% of our current release population."

I don't know what the percentage is for SeaMonkey.

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Re: Programmed Obsolescence

[Chris Ilias]

On 2018-05-21 3:46 PM, Francois LE COAT wrote:

Why versions of SeaMonkey are not available for Mac OS X 10.6.8 ? It's
called "Programmed Obsolescence" because there's nothing to explain !



Hi Francois,
The underlying Mozilla code that SeaMonkey uses no longer supports macOS 
10.6.



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Re: Adobe Flash

[Chris Ilias]

On 2018-05-20 10:18 AM, Smiles wrote:

I get an email from cool tools in it I get a black box saying

An error occurred.
Try watching this video on www.youtube.com, or enable JavaScript if it 
is disabled in your browser.


I prefer not to watch on youtub but in the window

any solution?


Javascript is disabled for viewing email messages in SeaMonkey. There's 
no way to enable it. You're going to have to watch the Youtube video in 
the browser.


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Re: Is there a way to mark ALL READ newsgroups, at the same time, in an usenet server?

[Chris Ilias]

On 2018-04-25 2:38 PM, NoOp wrote:

On 4/23/2018 6:28 PM, Ant wrote:

Instead of going one by one? I cannot even highlight all newsgroups to
mark all as read. :(


Shift|left click & select multiple newsgroups|right click|Mark
Newsgroups Read (or ctl-k) works in Thunderbird 52.7.0.


Selecting more than one newsgroup is not possible in SeaMonkey.

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Re: USPS website will soon no longer support SeaMonkey

[Chris Ilias]

On 2018-04-16 9:47 AM, WaltS48 wrote:

On 4/15/18 9:21 PM, cmcadams wrote:

WaltS48 wrote:


The Firefox browser works here. Y'all enjoy your problems.


Sure, everybody knows Firefox is where all the cool kids are. All 
those folks doing their best to steer clear must just be nuts.


No, the compatible versions of Firefox, Chrome, Edge, IE11 and Safari 
are where all the modern web features are supported.


You may be able to fool the site with a fake UA, but will the site 
display properly in a browser that doesn't support those features.


It would have been nice if the USPS had listed what features will no 
longer be compatible.


It baffles me that they are not aware of Firefox ESR and supporting that 
browser.


It's important to remember that this is a support forum. The point is to 
help cmcadams get his problem solved, so he can continue to the use the 
browser he wants to use without problems. Comments like "Y'all enjoy 
your problems" are not helpful, and in my opinion, trolling.


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Re: Adblock Plus Issue

[Chris Ilias]

On 2018-03-24 3:38 PM, Tom Pamin wrote:
I grew tired of so many web pages asking me to turn off Adblock Plus, so 
I disabled the SM extension on my Win 10 desktop and Win 7 laptops. The 
laptops seem OK, as the Adblock Plus title has disappeared from the SM 
Tools dropdown list. But it did not disappear on my desktop, so I don't 
know if it's still active or not. Anyone know why the desktop still 
shows Adblock Plus under Tools?


I think in a case like this, it would be very useful to actually see 
what you're referring to by "it did not disappear on my desktop". If you 
can create a screenshot (see 
<http://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/how-do-i-create-screenshot-my-problem>) 
and upload it to an image hosting site such as Dropbox, Google Drive, 
Box, Microsoft OneDrive, etc, that would help everyone know what you're 
referring to.


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Re: Missing? URL at: Browser Top Menu - Help - About Plugins - Learn More (fwd)

[Chris Ilias]

On 2018-02-28 11:13 AM, M.Ross wrote:

Missing? URL at: Browser Top Menu - Help - About Plugins - Learn More

Am I missing something? No Webmaster? So, why advertise it?

Via Linux Seamonkey v2.49.1 on Ubuntu 12.04.5 LTS

Select: Top Menu - Help - About Plugins -- and see:

-snip-
Installed plugins

Missing something? Some plugins are no longer supported.   Learn More.
-snip-

Now Select: "Learn More" for <http://www.seamonkey-project.org/doc/npapi>



This look like SM developers weren't aware the link existed. The link 
was added to about:plugins in Firefox, and the code looks like this:


--
deprecationLink.href = 
Services.urlFormatter.formatURLPref("app.support.baseURL") + "npapi";

--

"app.support.baseURL" is preference setting which tells you the URL of 
the support site, then it adds "npapi".


That code is probably Firefox code that SeaMonkey uses, and 
"app.support.baseURL" in SeaMonkey is set to 
http://www.seamonkey-project.org/doc/


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Re: E-Mail Providers

[Chris Ilias]

On 2018-01-01 10:06 AM, WaltS48 wrote:

On 12/31/17 4:54 PM, DoctorBill wrote:

Jonathan N. Little wrote:

DoctorBill wrote:


I have several gmail accounts, but gmail does not handle Pictures
(photo files) very well.  There is no "In Line Photos" like SeaMonkey
has - just "attachments".

Can anyone recommend a good E-Mail service that allows photos to be 
embedded in the message like SM did ?  INSERT |  IMAGE etc.
What are you talking about? You know you can access gmail with the 
*client* part of SeaMonkey. I have a gmail account and I can embed 
images inline, just setup your gmail account for access with Mail and 
Newsgroups.


 I have tried to do this, but run into an error message when I try to 
send an E-Mail.


"Outgoing server (SMTP) mail.frontier.com is unknown. The server may 
be incorrectly configured. Please verify that your Outgoing server 
(SMTP) settings are correct and try again."


I get this when I try to send e-mail from any of the gmail accounts. 
Somehow, the frontier

account is getting mixed up with the gmail accounts - ? ? ? ? ? ?

I don't know enough on how to address this "error" !



Use Thunderbird. It automatically sets up email accounts for you and you 
won't have these problems.


People post in support forums because they don't want to switch 
products. Telling them to use a different product is not helpful and 
off-topic.


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Re: Downloading message body with SMTP

[Chris Ilias]

On 2017-12-12 5:17 PM, Harsha Godavari wrote:

I wanted to download all the messages from the inbox of my ISP's server. There 
are a couple of thousand there. I use SMTP  for my mail. How can I download the 
entire message (s) not just the headers? My browser is Seamonkey 2.40 and  OS 
is Win 7 (32 bit).  Thanks for your helphg.



1. Right-click on the account, and select "Settings".
2. Select the "Synchronization & Storage" panel for the account.
3. In the top section, you should be able to set it to download messages 
for offline use, and even specify which folders.


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Re: Chrome hijacking

[Chris Ilias]

On 2017-12-06 1:11 PM, Mort Linder wrote:

Chris Ilias wrote:

On 2017-11-27 10:52 PM, Mort Linder wrote:

Hi,

Thanks so much for informing me that chrome is correct. However, why 
do my other 2 laptops show SeaMonkey there, while only this one keeps 
chrome?


Why are you ignoring requests to post a screenshot? Do you know what a 
screenshot is?


I understood that attachments such as photos are prohibited in  newsgroups.

If I take a photo of the info on screen, how do I send it to this group? 
Will e-mail work?


Thanks.


Upload it to an image hosting site like Flickr or Google Photos, then 
paste a link to the image in your reply here.


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Re: Chrome hijacking

[Chris Ilias]

On 2017-11-27 10:52 PM, Mort Linder wrote:

Hi,

Thanks so much for informing me that chrome is correct. However, why do 
my other 2 laptops show SeaMonkey there, while only this one keeps chrome?




Why are you ignoring requests to post a screenshot? Do you know what a 
screenshot is?


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Re: Chrome hijacking

[Chris Ilias]

On 2017-11-27 9:15 PM, Mort Linder wrote:

Chris Ilias wrote:

On 2017-11-25 5:42 PM, Mort Linder wrote:

Something new and annoying has occurred in one of my 3 Windows
laptops. Win 7 and 10) The "mail start page" was always SeaMonkey.
Now, it is Chrome Messenger. When I try to delete the Chrome and
replace it with SeaMonkey, the Chrome remains despite supposedly being
deleted.
How do I fix this?


I think in a case like this, it would be very useful to actually see
what you're talking about. If you can create a screenshot (see
<http://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/how-do-i-create-screenshot-my-problem>) 


and upload it to an image hosting site like Flickr or Google Photos,
that would help everyone know what you're referring to.


"When mail launches, show the start page in the message area"
Location: chrome://messenger/content/start.xhtml"



That's the correct URL. It has nothing to do with Google Chrome. The use 
of the term "Chrome" in Mozilla predates the existence of the Chrome 
browser (and SeaMonkey as well).


Chrome = That part of the application window that lies outside of a 
window's content area. Toolbars, menu bars, progress bars, and window 
title bars are all examples of elements that are typically part of the 
chrome.
For more info, see 
<https://www-archive.mozilla.org/xpfe/ConfigChromeSpec.html>



When I delete the Chrome etc, and type in the proper SeaMonkey words, it 
becomes a hybrid,seamonkey plus the (deleted) chrome, and is rejected by 
the computer.


I need to see a screenshot to know what you're referring to.

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Re: Chrome hijacking

[Chris Ilias]

On 2017-11-25 5:42 PM, Mort Linder wrote:
Something new and annoying has occurred in one of my 3 Windows laptops. 
Win 7 and 10) The "mail start page" was always SeaMonkey. Now, it is 
Chrome Messenger. When I try to delete the Chrome and replace it with 
SeaMonkey, the Chrome remains despite supposedly being deleted.

How do I fix this?


I think in a case like this, it would be very useful to actually see 
what you're talking about. If you can create a screenshot (see 
<http://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/how-do-i-create-screenshot-my-problem>) 
and upload it to an image hosting site like Flickr or Google Photos, 
that would help everyone know what you're referring to.


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Re: What's with all those Spanish or Italian Posts - pedofile ?

[Chris Ilias]

On 2017-10-28 2:48 PM, DoctorBill wrote:

On 10/28/17 1:21 PM, DoctorBill wrote:

Why can't the Site Manager erase them ?
Filter them out?


So there is no 'webmaster' or site manager running this News Group ?
Who does it belong to ?


This looks like a case of mixed terminology. Newsgroups are not websites. :)

The person you're looking for is Edmund Wong. He posted about the spam 
in August: 
<https://groups.google.com/d/topic/mozilla.support.seamonkey/nMVwD74d79c/discussion>.


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Re: Compact

[Chris Ilias]

On 2017-10-18 2:30 PM, MonkeyAround wrote:

Certain newsgroups I like to use off-line and keep around forever.

1) how do i verify that they are really on my PC ?


Disconnect your PC. :)
SeaMonkey keeps a session cache of online messages you've read during 
the session, so start SeaMonkey after disconnecting. SeaMonkey should 
detect that you're offline, and go into offline mode.

Then view your messages to verify that they are there.

2) is it possible to transfer to a different PC so i do not have to 
download all of them again ?


When you've downloaded newsgroup messages for offline reading, a 
separate file with no extension will be created to hold offline messages.

For example:
"mozilla.support.seamonkey" and "mozilla.support.seamonkey.msf"

1. Go to Help-->Troubleshooting_Information.
2. Click [Show Folder]. Windows Explorer window will open in your 
profile folder.

3. Close SeaMonkey.
4. In your profile folder, go the \News\ folder.
5. Copy the files named after the news server.

After you've set up the account in your destination PC, close SeaMonkey 
and replace the newly created files with the ones from your old profile.


But if you're transferring to a different PC, I recommend transferring 
the entire profile. For more info, see 
<http://seamonkey.ilias.ca/profilefaq/#transferring>.


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Re: Backing up SM stuff

[Chris Ilias]

On 2017-09-14 8:51 PM, DoctorBill wrote:

Ray_Net wrote:

DoctorBill wrote on 14-09-17 06:09:

Ray_Net wrote:
Perhaps your profile is somewhere else ... or your SM did not 
contain at

least one password ...(I have only 3 passwords)


I have only a C:\ Drive !   Then A D:\ cd-DVD rom.

I have MANY passwords !


Are you able to look "everywhere" on your disk ?
Is this option "Show hidden files,folders, disk" set ?


If that is the problem, i don't know how to address it !

Windows 7 is an enigma sometimes...


In SeaMonkey, go to Help > Troubleshooting Information.
Under the Application Basics section, click on "Show Folder". A window 
with your profile folder will open.


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Re: Backing up SM stuff

[Chris Ilias]

On 2017-09-14 12:18 AM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Chris Ilias wrote:


Ed's data is out of date.
To back up passwords, you need to copy key3.db and logins.json.
For more information, see
<http://seamonkey.ilias.ca/profilefaq/#transferring>


I have all three files on my SM 2.46. Do you mean to say that 
signons.sqlite is no longer in use, can be ignored/deleted? After what 
version was it abandoned? I see the modification date for my 
signons.sqlite is 10/2/2014.




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Re: Backing up SM stuff

[Chris Ilias]

On 2017-09-13 5:11 PM, DoctorBill wrote:

Ed Mullen wrote:
On 9/13/2017 at 1:21 PM, DoctorBill created this epitome of digital 
genius:

I just backed up my Bookmarks to a Thumb Drive - there is a backup
choice under "tools"
in the Bookmarks manager to do that.

I have four "Address Books".
How can I back those up to a Thumbdrive ?
Do I use "Export" ?
If so, do I Export each of the four Address Books ?

How about backing up the Passwords ?

DoctorBill  using SM 2.46


Address books - copy the *.mab files in your profile

Passwords - copy the signons.sqlite file in your profile




I found the ,mab file.
Cannot find any signons.sqlite file - even tried searching the C:\ drive.
No luck !


Ed's data is out of date.
To back up passwords, you need to copy key3.db and logins.json.
For more information, see http://seamonkey.ilias.ca/profilefaq/#transferring

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Re: There's a "video war" going on, and we users are the victims

[Chris Ilias]

On 2017-08-26 8:06 AM, null wrote:

But getting back to the problem that I can't use SM or FF to watch video 
presented with Youtube's HTML5 Player, people say that I don't have the 
necessary codecs or that my XP OS doesn't have the necessary. Well, my 
Chrome browser on my XP machine DOES play those videos. If Chrome has 
something in it that does that running on XP, why doesn't FF and SM? 
Now, I can think of various possible answers to that question, but i 
can't identify the correct answer.



The following also applies to SeaMonkey:

<https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/HTML/Supported_media_formats>
"[10] To avoid patent issues, support for MPEG 4, H.264 and MP3 is not 
built directly into Firefox. Instead it relies on support from the OS or 
hardware (the hardware also needs to be able to support the profile used 
to encode the video, in the case of MP4). Firefox supports these formats 
on the following platforms: Windows Vista+ since Firefox 22.0, Android 
since Firefox 20.0, Firefox OS since Firefox 15.0, Linux since Firefox 
26.0 (relies on GStreamer codecs) and OS X 10.7 since Firefox 35.0."


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Re: There's a "video war" going on, and we users are the victims

[Chris Ilias]

On 2017-08-22 7:17 AM, null wrote:
There seems to be a kind of war going on between the proponents of Adobe 
Flash, something open source called Webm, and the HTML5 player.


HTML5 is not a media player. It's a language used for writing webpages. 
The new HTML standard (number 5) allows browsers to play video without 
the need for a third-party plugin, like Flash, similar to how you don't 
need a plugin to view images. For more info, this video does a good job 
explaining it <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IsXEVQRaTX8>.


Since that video was published, Adobe has announced plans to kill Flash.

As others have pointed out, the reason why you're having trouble with 
HTML5 videos is because modern web browsers require something later than 
Windows XP for HTML5 videos.


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Re: Edit the user dictionary ?

[Chris Ilias]

On 2017-08-16 10:20 AM, Hawker wrote:

Is there a way to edit the words added to the user dictionary?
I know I can hover over a word, RMB and select remove from dictionary 
but it would be great to see the list of all words and remove anything I 
saw that was a mistake.  I found directions for Thunderbird and Firefox 
for this but they didn't seem to translate to SM.

This is for the browser side, I assume they share the same user dictionary?


1. Open a message compose window.
2. Click on the message body.
3. Click the "Spell" toolbar button.
4. Click [Edit].

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.48 release

[Chris Ilias]

On 2017-07-23 6:08 PM, Cruz, Jaime wrote:

WaltS48 wrote:

On 7/22/17 1:57 PM, EE wrote:

I got the SeaMonkey 2.48 release version yesterday from the Mozilla
FTP site.  It is not yet on the SeaMonkey project release page.  Why?


Cause it hasn't been officially released, the developers are putting
some finishing touches on release notes and other fine tuning like
putting it on the SeaMonkey project release page. AIUI.


It has been "advertised" as available at DistroWatch for the past week:
http://distrowatch.com/


This situation is covered in the second blog post I linked to[1]. 
DistroWatch is flat-out wrong, and as a result, should not be trusted. 
If there's something wrong with the builds ewong uploaded, and they have 
to be re-spun before release, there are going to be people with bad 
builds because they downloaded it from DistroWatch.


[1]<http://ilias.ca/blog/2006/04/looking-at-ftp-sites-for-mozilla-releases-part-ii/>

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.48 release

[Chris Ilias]

On 2017-07-22 1:57 PM, EE wrote:
I got the SeaMonkey 2.48 release version yesterday from the Mozilla FTP 
site.  It is not yet on the SeaMonkey project release page.  Why?


Please read the following blog posts:
http://ilias.ca/blog/2005/11/looking-at-ftp-sites-for-mozilla-releases/
http://ilias.ca/blog/2006/04/looking-at-ftp-sites-for-mozilla-releases-part-ii/

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Re: transferring profile to new machine

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On 2017-07-19 8:55 PM, terry bicknell wrote:

Hello,
Can  anyone out there tell  me how to transfer  mail profile to a new 
machine using seamonkey in  each  machine?

Thanks - Terry


Here you go: http://seamonkey.ilias.ca/profilefaq/#transferring

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Re: Why can I not get into my email program, since Seamonkey is all-in -one

[Chris Ilias]

On 2017-06-16 11:54 AM, Stephen wrote:




To start using SeaMonkey Mail & Newsgroups, click the Mail & Newsgroups 
icon in the lower-left corner of the SeaMonkey browser window.


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Re: Do Filters Apply to Sub-Folders or Just The Main Folder?

[Chris Ilias]

On 14/06/2017 9:13 PM, Arnie Goetchius wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:

On 6/14/2017 7:34 AM, Arnie Goetchius wrote:

If I set up a filter on a main folder (e.g delete a post from a particular 
email address), does this
also work on any sub-folders or do I have to set up the filter for each 
sub-folder?


Are you asking about filters on E-mail accounts, newsgroup accounts, or
RSS feeds?


newsgroup accounts


Newsgroup accounts do not support folders.

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Re: Seamonkey gets in the way and is useless for me and causes me more work

[Chris Ilias]

On 2017-06-14 6:04 PM, MozUser wrote:


Specifically where do I set this ?
I cannot find it in Edit \ Preferences


  1.  For SeaMonkey, I set the preference variable
  network.protocol-handler.external.mailto to "true".



There's video at <http://seamonkey.ilias.ca/browserfaq/mailto>.

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Re: Diverge From T-bird

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On 2017-06-09 6:15 PM, rickman wrote:

Richmond wrote on 6/9/2017 4:51 PM:

rickman <gnuarm.deletethis...@gmail.com> writes:



For that matter, why did SeaMonkey split off from T-bird?  What was the
fundamental issue that created a new tool so similar to the old?


The way I remember it, Thunderbird (and Firefox) split off from
Seamonkey. Seamonkey came from Netscape Communicator, which then became
Mozilla Application Suite.


So you are saying the split was a long time ago?  I didn't realize.  I 
believe Netscape was a more universal tool with support for newsgroups, 
email and web page composition.  That's what I used to write my web page 
a decade and a half ago.  Maybe it's time for an update...?


I created this page years ago to explain it: 
<http://seamonkey.ilias.ca/bigpicture/>


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Re: Seamonkey gets in the way and is useless for me and causes me more work

[Chris Ilias]

On 08/06/2017 1:22 PM, MozUser wrote:

The suggested link does NOT talk about Windows 10.
Windows 10 does not follow what is at that link.

Windows 10 makes life too difficult !

People have to rediscover it all over again.

Where do i find all this info for working with Windows 10 ???

M$ is screwing things up all over again by moving stuff around so we
cannot do what is needed to make things work !

Why the hell does M$ do this ?


The instructions at 
<https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/make-thunderbird-default-mail-client> 
apply to Windows 10. :)

At which point in the page are you having trouble?

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Re: Seamonkey gets in the way and is useless for me and causes me more work

[Chris Ilias]

On 08/06/2017 11:11 AM, MozUser wrote:

I use Seamonkey exclusively for newsgroups and Tunderbird for eMail.

I am in an unrelated application and right-click to get a windows menu
to Send To eMail recipient.

Seamonkey opens with the files are attached BUT since I have nothing set
up in Seamonkey for emailing WHY DOES IT DO THAT ?

More important HOW DO I STOP IT ?

Running on Windows 10 Home.


Looks like you have SeaMonkey set up as your default mail client.
Open Thunderbird, and set it as your default mail client, so "Send 
To..." will open Thunderbird instead of SeaMonkey.
For instructions, see 
<https://support.mozilla.org/kb/make-thunderbird-default-mail-client>


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Re: New user - with questions

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On 2017-06-04 4:43 AM, Ray_Net wrote:

Chris Ilias wrote on 04-06-17 01:37:

Both mozilla-lists.mbou...@spamgourmet.com and rickman have stated 
that newsgroups don't use SMTP. I'm not sure why you don't believe them.


You asked how:
1. Go to a newsgroup.
2. Click "Compose".
3. Type your message, and click Send.
That's how. :)

You can test it by creating a new SeaMonkey profile, and creating a 
newsgroups account for news.mozilla.org with no SMTP server, then 
sending a post to mozilla.test.


I finally believed them, but MY news-group account to access 
news.mozilla.org have my ISP smtp server written in the SM options for 
this account.
I just look at that option and the only choices are all my smtp servers 
and "Use Default Server" there is no "No SMTP server".


That's exclusively for the "Reply To Sender Only" function.

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Re: New user - with questions

[Chris Ilias]

On 2017-06-03 4:53 PM, Ray_Net wrote:

rickman wrote on 03-06-17 17:42:

Ray_Net wrote on 6/3/2017 11:26 AM:

mozilla-lists.mbou...@spamgourmet.com wrote on 03-06-17 15:32:


It looks like Joe has solved the problem, but just to clear up this
point... mail and newsgroup posts are not sent via the same server. 
Mail

is sent to an SMTP server (and received via a POP or IMAP server).
Newsgroup posts are sent to an NNTP server (and received via the same
server). It's entirely possible to post to an NNTP (newsgroup) server
without a working SMTP (outbound mail) server.


Nice to know that. Thanks. Now I better understand why the OP was 
able to

send a post and not able to send a mail.
Here to post this message to news.mozilla.org I used the SMTP server
provided by my ISP.
How is it possible to post to news.mozilla.org without using an SMTP 
server ?


By definition newsgroups are accessed through the NNTP protocol which 
is implemented on news servers.  That is a separate means from SMTP 
which is implemented on email servers.


I know newsgroups can be posted to using email clients, i.e. sending 
an email because I did this when I started using newsgroups.  I don't 
know if you can read messages by email though.  I don't know if this 
requires a special email program that actually sends the message by 
NNTP or if email has to be addressed to a server that converts between 
SMTP and NNTP.


Is that any more clear?


Yes and no :-)
In fact, I will be interested to know HOW TO post here to 
news.mozilla.org by using SeaMonkey without using any SMTP server ?


Both mozilla-lists.mbou...@spamgourmet.com and rickman have stated that 
newsgroups don't use SMTP. I'm not sure why you don't believe them.


You asked how:
1. Go to a newsgroup.
2. Click "Compose".
3. Type your message, and click Send.
That's how. :)

You can test it by creating a new SeaMonkey profile, and creating a 
newsgroups account for news.mozilla.org with no SMTP server, then 
sending a post to mozilla.test.



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Re: Seamonkey Icons

[Chris Ilias]

On 2017-06-02 1:26 PM, MozUser wrote:





Hi MozUser,
As per the policy at 
<https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/about/forums/cancellation/>, I've removed 
your post from the server, because it contains a personal attack.



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Re: New user - with questions

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On 2017-05-27 12:15 PM, joegw...@comcast.net wrote:

On Friday, May 26, 2017 at 9:10:32 PM UTC-4, Chris Ilias wrote:

On 2017-05-26 7:16 PM, joegw...@comcast.net wrote:

I just installed SeaMonkey 2.46 on my 27" iMac under MacOS 10.9.5, and have 
gotten SM to mostly work, but there are some problems:

1.  My ISP requires a password to post email to the SMTP server, but I have not 
figured out how to enter such a password.  An email client that cannot post 
email isn't much use, so one assumes that there is a solution.  In this case, I 
knew that I had not been able to enter a password, but I won't be that lucky in 
the future.


When you attempt to send a message, SeaMonkey will prompt you for the
password. There will be a checkbox to remember that password. It's the
same password manager used in the browser.


It isn't happening.


Could you tell us what is happening? When you try to send a message what 
do you see? Any error messages? If so, what do they say?


As other have also requested, what are your server settings?


Use as a newsgroup reader is also greatly hindered, because one cannot sent 
email replies, or save copies of postings as emails to self.


To send an email reply, control-click on the message, and select "Reply
to Sender Only". There's also a small arrow beside the Reply toolbar
icon, that will let you choose whether to reply in the newsgroup or to
the sender only.

To save a copy of a newsgroup article, you can either:
* drag the message to any mail folder
* control-click on the message and select "Copy To"
* On the menu bar, go to the Message menu and select "Copy To"
* Add the "File" toolbar icon to the toolbar, and click on it to copy
the message to a folder.


Solves the wrong problem.  I want a method to automatically save copies of 
everything I post.  Any method that requires me to unfailingly remember to do 
something is doomed.



1. Go to Edit-->Mail_&_Newsgroups_Account_Settings.
2. Select the newsgroups account you want to edit.
3. Within it, select the Copies_&_Folders panel.
4. Under "When sending messages" there should already be a check mark 
beside "Automatically place a copy in". Underneath, you can change the 
folder that copies are filed in.



3.  While I have no problem changing the font size in the body of messages and 
postings, I have not found a way to change the size of text in such things as 
the list of messages; this makes SM very difficult to use an a large 
high-resolution display.


Try the instructions at <http://seamonkey.ilias.ca/mailnewsfaq/PaneText>.
I haven't tested that in years, so tell me if it doesn't work.


I'll try this.  As I mentioned in a separate email, Zoom only affects the 
message bodies, and not icons, list entries, et al, defeating the purpose of 
Zoom.


Tell us how it goes.

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Re: New user - with questions

[Chris Ilias]

On 2017-05-26 7:16 PM, joegw...@comcast.net wrote:

I just installed SeaMonkey 2.46 on my 27" iMac under MacOS 10.9.5, and have 
gotten SM to mostly work, but there are some problems:

1.  My ISP requires a password to post email to the SMTP server, but I have not 
figured out how to enter such a password.  An email client that cannot post 
email isn't much use, so one assumes that there is a solution.  In this case, I 
knew that I had not been able to enter a password, but I won't be that lucky in 
the future.


When you attempt to send a message, SeaMonkey will prompt you for the 
password. There will be a checkbox to remember that password. It's the 
same password manager used in the browser.



Use as a newsgroup reader is also greatly hindered, because one cannot sent 
email replies, or save copies of postings as emails to self.


To send an email reply, control-click on the message, and select "Reply 
to Sender Only". There's also a small arrow beside the Reply toolbar 
icon, that will let you choose whether to reply in the newsgroup or to 
the sender only.


To save a copy of a newsgroup article, you can either:
* drag the message to any mail folder
* control-click on the message and select "Copy To"
* On the menu bar, go to the Message menu and select "Copy To"
* Add the "File" toolbar icon to the toolbar, and click on it to copy 
the message to a folder.




2.  Is there a log file that records the chit-chat between SM and the email 
and/or news servers.  This is essential for troubleshooting problems like why 
my attempts to sent email never complete.



I think there is, but I can't find the preference right now. Hoping 
someone else can look it up. :)




3.  While I have no problem changing the font size in the body of messages and 
postings, I have not found a way to change the size of text in such things as 
the list of messages; this makes SM very difficult to use an a large 
high-resolution display.


Try the instructions at <http://seamonkey.ilias.ca/mailnewsfaq/PaneText>.
I haven't tested that in years, so tell me if it doesn't work.

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Mozilla Forum Etiquette violation warning (Was: Re: WiFi Internet Connection and seaMonkey)

[Chris Ilias]

On 2017-05-19 12:51 AM, DoctorBill wrote:

Sorry - that was for a 500 GB.
Mine is a 250 GB - those exact replacements are $35 - free shipping.

Thanks for this idea !


Hi DoctorBill,

Your posting address does not appear to be valid, so this warning is 
being posted here.


You're getting this message because I've noticed that you've been 
posting a lot of off-topic messages lately. I want to make sure that 
you're aware that the mozilla.support.* newsgroups are subject to the 
Mozilla Forum Etiquette rules 
<https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/about/forums/etiquette/>. "Stay on topic" 
is one of those basic rules. As a matter of fact, off-topic posts are 
eligible for removal from the news server. See 
<https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/about/forums/cancellation/>. Your 
off-topic messages aren't being removed; I just want to let you know 
about the forum rules.


If it would help you to see which posts I considered off-topic, please 
just e-mail me back.


It's important to remember that the reason people subscribe to the 
Mozilla Support newsgroups or mailing lists is for user support; and if 
they have to read through many messages that are of no help in their use 
of the product, they're not getting what they subscribed for.


If you do want to post an off-topic message, there a few things you can do:
* You can reply to the poster via private email
* You can suggest taking the discussion to a place where the discussion 
would not be off-topic.
* You can force replies to be sent to the mozilla.general, where 
off-topic discussion is allowed. To do that, just set the Followup-To 
header on your post. [Demonstration video: 
<http://ilias.ca/flashback/tb2-followup.html>]


If you'd like to reply to this message, please email me with a valid 
return address, thanks.


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Re: Come One Seamonkey Team! THINK !!!!

[Chris Ilias]

On 2017-05-18 5:10 PM, Onno Ekker wrote:

Op 16-5-2017 om 20:28 schreef EE:


You can see the full name for a subscription in a tooltip from the
folder pane.  Now, I am also seeing the titles of fresh messages there
as well.


Yes, but you cannot mark/unmark a group for offline use there...


For what it's worth, you can. :)
Right-click on the folder, and select Properties-->Synchronization.

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Re: Email stopped receiving or sending. Will not allow passwords. Thus nothing. Pages details are missing, what steps do I take. Would be great x to explain to living person via phone. Have being a Se

[Chris Ilias]

On 23/02/2017 9:37 AM, TCW wrote:

On 2/23/2017 8:00 AM, Chris Ilias wrote:


First try going into the password manager and removing the stored
password for that account.

If that doesn't work, are there any error messages? If so, what do they
say?


I don't suspect you'll get an answer considering the OP posted their
email address as if they were expecting an emailed support response.


This newsgroup is bidirectionally mirrored with the support-seamonkey 
mailing list, which is the address Stephen sent his email to. Because he 
can't send/receive messages in SeaMonkey, he used his BlackBerry to post 
to the list, and that's where he will be able to see my response.


See <https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey>

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Re: Email stopped receiving or sending. Will not allow passwords. Thus nothing. Pages details are missing, what steps do I take. Would be great x to explain to living person via phone. Have being a Se

[Chris Ilias]

On 22/02/2017 8:53 AM, Stephen King wrote:



Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone on the Rogers network.



First try going into the password manager and removing the stored 
password for that account.


If that doesn't work, are there any error messages? If so, what do they say?

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Re: Seamonkey 10.50a2

[Chris Ilias]

On 2017-02-03 8:26 AM, Luis wrote:

Just installed and so far everything goes smooth. However, since SM
looks so ancient I wonder when will be modernized or at least its user
interface revamped.


I'm not aware of any plans to refresh the look of SeaMonkey. Developers 
are having enough trouble releasing updates. :)


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Re: Archived Email Messages Faded Out in SM v2.4 and v2.46

[Chris Ilias]

On 2017-01-22 3:31 AM, Daniel wrote:

By-the-By, your attempt at using the * to  cause the "header" to appear
in Bold is incorrect ...



He didn't attempt that; he posted in HTML. ;)

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Re: Displaying PDF's

[Chris Ilias]

On 2017-01-15 9:57 PM, David E. Ross wrote:

Soon, no plugins will work other than Flash.  Later, even Flash will not
work.  This is per Mozilla's plans.

While this mess has not yet propagated to SeaMonkey, I have installed
the PDF Viewer extension.  This is inherent in Firefox and supposedly
will soon be inherent in SeaMonkey.


By default, SeaMonkey disables plugins in mailnews anyway. ;)

You can enable it in Edit-->Preferences-->Advanced-->Scripts_&_Plugins.

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Re: Will SeaMonkey ever get its own incognito like other web browsers (e.g., Firefox)?

[Chris Ilias]

On 2017-01-14 1:42 PM, Ant wrote:

Thank you in advance. :)


It's already there.

Go to File-->New-->Private_Window.
To open a bookmark or link in a private window, 
right-click-->Open_in_a_Private_Window.


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Re: 0day exploit - Security update for SeaMonkey needed?

[Chris Ilias]

On 01/12/2016 12:52 PM, TCW wrote:

I was *told* to not post long URLs before by Chris I and someone else.
Short URLs is the preferred method is what I was told.


I never said that. I told you not to refer to contributor builds as 
official releases.

<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/mozilla.support.seamonkey/BXx2bqanaTE/ZnNu86EkEQAJ>

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Re: 0day exploit - Security update for SeaMonkey needed?

[Chris Ilias]

On 30/11/2016 9:06 AM, WaltS48 wrote:

There's a zero-day exploit in the wild that's being used to execute
malicious code on the computers of people using Tor and possibly other
users of the Firefox browser, officials of the anonymity service
confirmed Tuesday.




The versions span from 41 to 50, with version 45 ESR being the version
used by the latest version of the Tor browser.


<http://arstechnica.com/security/2016/11/firefox-0day-used-against-tor-users-almost-identical-to-one-fbi-used-in-2013/>

Is a fix for SeaMonkey needed?


Given that there's a chemspill for Firefox on both desktop and android, 
on both the latest version and ESR, as well as Thunderbird, I would say 
it's a reasonable assumption that SeaMonkey is affected.


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Re: 2.46 Install file

[Chris Ilias]

On 28/11/2016 10:15 AM, Ed Mullen wrote:

I'm running SM 2.46 on the "default update channel."

I go to <http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/seamonkey/> and look in releases and
even nightlies and can't find the Windows install file for 2.46. Any
thoughts?




2.46 has not been released. The latest official release is 2.40.

If you're looking for a nightly, the 
<http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/seamonkey/nightly/2016/> directory is still 
being updated.


Otherwise, I would say that you got a contributor build.

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Re: Is "SeaMonkey 2.40" the last version, or will there be further updates?

[Chris Ilias]

On 2016-11-17 2:16 AM, pthf1n...@gmail.com wrote:


My impression is that the microsoft November update rollup makes seamonkey 2.46 
for windows 7 x32 crash.


Does the Mozilla Crash Reporter come up? If not, it could be because 
you're not using an official release. If it does,

1. Open SeaMonkey.
2. Go to Help-->Troubleshooting_Information. That should open a new tab 
with info about your SeaMonkey setup.
3. Under "Crash Reports for the Last 3 Days" click on your latest crash 
report. That should take you to a web page starting with 
"https://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/;
4. Open a reply to this post and paste the address of your latest crash 
report.
We can then look at the data specific to your crash and have a better 
idea of what is causing the problem.


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Re: Blank Message Body ....??

[Chris Ilias]

On 2016-10-16 4:44 PM, bo1953 wrote:

I Am running SM 2.40 on W10 pro desktop. I just reloaded SM on this
system and find there are several messages with blank bodies. The
message does appear in full on my other machines though.

I did run into this situation several years back on several older
versions of SM and do not recollect how it was resolved...

Any ideas or suggestions on how to remedy this situation and display the
messages and prevent going forward?


Try this:
1. Right-click on the folder, and select "Properties".
2. Click on [Repair Folder].

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Re: 2.46 updates?

[Chris Ilias]

On 11/10/2016 10:23 PM, NoOp wrote:

On 10/11/2016 07:10 PM, NoOp wrote:

I just received update notices for 2.46 (Windows and linux) on the
system that I have 2.46 running. (Note: I do not get a notice on those
that are still running 2.40). Here is what I get for the upgraded 2.46:

User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:49.0) Gecko/20100101
Firefox/49.0 SeaMonkey/2.46
Build identifier: 20160922144825

and

User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.2; Win64; x64; rv:49.0)
Gecko/20100101 Firefox/49.0 SeaMonkey/2.46
Build identifier: 20160922153204

Anyone else (that are already running 2.46) get the same?


Mine are from:
https://l10n.mozilla-community.org/~akalla/unofficial/seamonkey/nightly/latest-comm-release-linux64/
and I don't see that they're updated beyond 09/22:
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:49.0) Gecko/20100101
Firefox/49.0 SeaMonkey/2.46
Build identifier: 2016092214482

Unfortunately I wasn't paying much attention when I updated (baseball
playoffs & cooking)... but update history from
'Help|Troubleshooting|Show Update History' shows on the Win10 shows:

SeaMonkey 2.46 (20160922153204)
Security Update
Installed on: Tuesday, October 11, 2016 3:40:50 PM
Status: The Update was successfully installed

and now it is showing (after restart):

User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.2; Win64; x64; rv:49.0)
Gecko/20100101 Firefox/49.0 SeaMonkey/2.46
Build identifier: 20160922153204


According to the last modified column of that directory, those builds 
are from September 22. I assume you were using an earlier build. :)


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Re: Problem in css files exemple in chrome directory of the SM profile

[Chris Ilias]

On 2016-10-09 5:47 PM, Ray_Net wrote:

Felix Miata wrote on 08/10/2016 23:50:

Ray_Net composed on 2016-10-08 21:44 (UTC+0200):


Near last line of the file: userChrome-example.css



* For more examples see http://www.mozilla.org/unix/customizing.html



Is wrong ... http://www.mozilla.org/unix/customizing.html give ERROR 404



AND identically for the "userContent-example.css" file:



* For more examples see http://www.mozilla.org/unix/customizing.html



Is wrong ... http://www.mozilla.org/unix/customizing.htmlgive ERROR 404


Ancient page last modified 2005-05-23 got moved:
http://www-archive.mozilla.org/unix/customizing.html

Thanks a lot, I will update my "userChrome-example.css" and my
"userContent-example.css" files


Note that the page is not being maintained. It didn't get moved; it was 
REmoved. :)


As Walt said, the entire chrome directory is no longer part of the 
default SeaMonkey profile. It hasn't been for years.


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Re: Resetting Newsgroup read messages.

[Chris Ilias]

On 05/10/2016 8:55 AM, Daniel wrote:

I seem to recall that, somewhere in my SM profile, there is a file for
my UseNet news server, which records which news groups I have subscribed
to on that news server and which messages I have read with-in each of
those news groups.

Could someone provide the name please. My UseNet server is
eternal-september, so I think the name is something like
newsrc-news.eternal-september.org. If so, can I edit the file, or might
it just be easier to delete the group from my UseNet account and then
just re-subscribe??

TIA



news.eternal-september.org.rc

newsrc-news.eternal-september.org is the file name on Mac and maybe 
Linux too.

Yes, you can edit the file in Notepad.
Easier? Depends on what you're trying to accomplish.

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Re: Adobe Flash Plugin Update

[Chris Ilias]

On 03/10/2016 2:06 PM, Gerry Hickman wrote:

Chris Ilias wrote:

Here's another example of a blocked message
https://blocklist.addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/blocked/p1246


Okay, I just wanted to clarify, because Mozilla doesn't offer plugins,
and doesn't have a plugins site. :)

The page at Tools-->Add-ons_Manager-->Plugins lists the plugins you have
already installed.

Plugins are offered by third-parties, and are not installed by SeaMonkey.


OK, so I think you're saying the "Update Now" button is supposed to take
you to the 3rd party site, instead of showing a "blocked" message, and
further to this, that plugins are not to be confused with 'extensions',
which can be installed from addons.mozilla.org.


I'm saying that the plugins listed are not being offered to you; they 
are the plugins you already have installed.


If there is an "Update Now" button, I don't know where it is supposed to 
take you. I can't test it right now. Where does it take you?


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Re: BCC broken?

[Chris Ilias]

On 2016-10-02 6:05 PM, sean wrote:

source on my original copy of the message in question confirms that I
did set my message as BCC: to everyone

while source of my recieved messages displays everyone received my
message as TO:



What SMTP server are you using?

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Re: Adobe Flash Plugin Update

[Chris Ilias]

On 2016-10-02 2:18 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Chris Ilias wrote:

On 2016-10-02 6:53 AM, Gerry Hickman wrote:

On 2016-10-01 3:20 PM, Gerry Hickman wrote:


I understand that, but why would the Mozilla plugin site be
offering an out-of-date plugin, and then saying it's blocked?


Chris, as explained in my original post, I'm talking about "Tools :
Add-ons Manager : Plugins". When I try to update from within SeaMonkey,
it offers an out-of-date version and says it's "blocked". I think it's
pointing to the site https://addons.mozilla.org/

Here's another example of a blocked message
https://blocklist.addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/blocked/p1246


Okay, I just wanted to clarify, because Mozilla doesn't offer plugins,
and doesn't have a plugins site. :)

The page at Tools-->Add-ons_Manager-->Plugins lists the plugins you have
already installed.

Plugins are offered by third-parties, and are not installed by SeaMonkey.


As noted upthread, when a plugin is outdated,


I've found that support threads can often get messy when others try to 
speak on behalf of the original poster. If he has any follow-up to my 
reply, I'm sure he'll post it himself. :)


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Re: SM profile location under Windows 10

[Chris Ilias]

On 2016-10-02 1:46 PM, Ray_Net wrote:

The SeaMonkey profile is for my windows7 pc at:
C:\Users\RZ\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\
where I can see:
- The "profile.ini" file
- The "Crash Reports" directory
- The "Profiles" directory
-- under the "profiles" directory I can see:
  - The "ey8r9gln.default" directory who contains all the profile.

Is it the same location under WINDOWS 10 ?


Yes. :)

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Re: Adobe Flash Plugin Update

[Chris Ilias]

On 2016-10-02 6:53 AM, Gerry Hickman wrote:

On 2016-10-01 3:20 PM, Gerry Hickman wrote:


I understand that, but why would the Mozilla plugin site be offering an 
out-of-date plugin, and then saying it's blocked?


Chris, as explained in my original post, I'm talking about "Tools :
Add-ons Manager : Plugins". When I try to update from within SeaMonkey,
it offers an out-of-date version and says it's "blocked". I think it's
pointing to the site https://addons.mozilla.org/

Here's another example of a blocked message
https://blocklist.addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/blocked/p1246


Okay, I just wanted to clarify, because Mozilla doesn't offer plugins, 
and doesn't have a plugins site. :)


The page at Tools-->Add-ons_Manager-->Plugins lists the plugins you have 
already installed.


Plugins are offered by third-parties, and are not installed by SeaMonkey.

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Re: Adobe Flash Plugin Update

[Chris Ilias]

On 2016-10-01 4:55 PM, Ray_Net wrote:

Chris Ilias wrote on 01/10/2016 21:25:

On 2016-10-01 3:20 PM, Gerry Hickman wrote:

Ed Mullen wrote:

It's blocked because that version is out of date.  Current version is
23.0.0.162.


I understand that, but why would the Mozilla plugin site be offering an
out-of-date plugin, and then saying it's blocked?


What Mozilla plugin site are you referring to?


Per exemple https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/plugincheck/
Where we can see:

Adobe Flash Player
Shockwave Flash 22.0 r0

v. 22.0.0.209 vulnerable

with an "UPDATE NOW" button to install this vulnerable version


Gerry Hickman, is the above link what you were referring to?

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Re: Adobe Flash Plugin Update

[Chris Ilias]

On 2016-10-01 3:20 PM, Gerry Hickman wrote:

Ed Mullen wrote:

It's blocked because that version is out of date.  Current version is
23.0.0.162.


I understand that, but why would the Mozilla plugin site be offering an
out-of-date plugin, and then saying it's blocked?


What Mozilla plugin site are you referring to?

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Re: Importing Old Mail with .slt Suffix

[Chris Ilias]

On 29/09/2016 12:21 PM, David Hume wrote:

Chris Ilias <n...@ilias.ca> writes:



Communicator never used ".slt" folders, so I assume that profile was
created in Netscape 6. The file format is actually the same as what is
used in SeaMonkey today, so importing them is the same method as
described at
<http://seamonkey.ilias.ca/profilefaq/#transferring_mail>. Instead of
creating a new account, create the folders in the Local Folders
account, then close SeaMonkey and switch the new files with the old
ones.


I am a bit lost here. I have two folders of the form xx.slt. Within
those there are various things including a folder called Mail and a
folder called ImapMail. So these xx.slt are profiles I expect, so I
renamed them to xx.profile1 etc. Then edited profiles.ini so they
would be recognised. Then I started seamonkey with profile manager. I
see the various accounts, but cannot see any mail within them.


I get the impression you read the section of that page on transferring 
entire profiles, not the section on transferring mail. :)


If the account you're trying to recover was a POP account, the files 
will be stored in the \Mail\ folder.

Then there is a folder for each POP account, named after the server.
Within that account folder is a file for each mail folder (Inbox, Sent, 
etc.) The files without extension contain the messages (Inbox, not 
Inbox.msf).
1. In your current SeaMonkey profile, create a folder within the Local 
Folders account called "TEMP".
2. Close SeaMonkey, and open the profile folder of your current 
SeaMonkey profile. Navigate to \Mail\Local Folders\ directory.

3. Delete the files "TEMP" and "TEMP.msf".
4. Copy over the "Inbox" file from your old profile to the folder in the 
previous step.

5. Rename the file to "TEMP".
6. Open SeaMonkey.

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Re: SeaMonkey features re (HTML4 &/or HTML5)?

[Chris Ilias]

On 27/09/2016 2:10 PM, Richard Owlett wrote:

That's an imperfect subject line to say the least.
Does SeaMonkey have a specification more detailed than the "Feature
List" at http://www.seamonkey-project.org/doc/features ?

The "World Wide Web Consortium" has test suites
[http://validator.w3.org/] to demonstrate compliance of a WEB page with
various HTML standards.

My interest is from a different perspective. What features of HTML4
and/or HTML% an SeaMonkey handle as page designer intended?

Background: Our Pastor wishes the church to have a WEB presence -
including the availability of sermons. I date from dial-up era when much
audio was "download then play". Streaming was available in theory - my
ISP could not keep up with it.

I understand that HTML5 has an "audio tag". In reality, what does that
mean?



It means that you can play audio files in a web page without needing a 
plugin, like Flash or Windows Media Player. For instance, if you go to 
<http://seamonkey.ilias.ca/browserfaq/Default>, there is a video. The 
HTML code for it is simply...



  


...where "Default.shtml.webm" is the name of the video file. The player 
is provided by SeaMonkey.


For more information on HTML5, this is a good video 
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IsXEVQRaTX8>.


SeaMonkey has supported the audio tag since version 2.0 was released in 
2009. Supported audio file formats are at 
<https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/HTML/Supported_media_formats>


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Re: No images display in 2.40 email

[Chris Ilias]

On 29/09/2016 5:02 PM, bwitzed wrote:

I did the privacy settings and it fixed the images.

How do I confirm that java is disabled?


Java is installed separately from SeaMonkey, and SeaMonkey doesn't 
install it on your computer. Installing Java is something you would have 
to do yourself. Assuming you're on Windows, you should see in the 
Windows Control Panel, and be able to uninstall it from there.


I don't think you should worry about any sites requiring Java. I 
uninstalled it around 10 years ago, and haven't had a need for it. The 
websites you visit may be different, but it's a very safe assumption 
that you won't need it.


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Re: Importing Old Mail with .slt Suffix

[Chris Ilias]

On 29/09/2016 10:56 AM, David Hume wrote:

I am trying to import some old mail, from around the year 2000. I am not
sure what client I was using then, maybe mozilla communicator, or
netscape. The mail is in folders with a .slt suffix, like xx.slt. I
tried to create a profile called xx following instructions on
mozilla.org but it created a folder called yy.xx.

The mail is in various plain text files so I am hoping there is some way
to create .msf indexes from it. Is there a way to do it with seamonkey
(or thunderbird, whichever works).


Communicator never used ".slt" folders, so I assume that profile was 
created in Netscape 6. The file format is actually the same as what is 
used in SeaMonkey today, so importing them is the same method as 
described at <http://seamonkey.ilias.ca/profilefaq/#transferring_mail>. 
Instead of creating a new account, create the folders in the Local 
Folders account, then close SeaMonkey and switch the new files with the 
old ones.


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Re: If I remplace the directory

[Chris Ilias]

On 2016-09-25 12:51 PM, David E. Ross wrote:

On 9/25/2016 9:24 AM, Chris Ilias wrote:


I don't think you'll have problems. The prefs.js file contains relative
file paths, so you shouldn't have to worry about editing it.


When I moved my profiles to a separate physical hard drive, I found
several file paths that were "complete" and not relative.



Those should get automatically updated. For instance, in about:config, 
search for:

mail.server.server1.directory

It should display two preferences. "mail.server.server1.directory" which 
shows the entire path, and "mail.server.server1.directory-rel" which 
shows the relative path. If the first one doesn't work, it will use the 
second one, and update the first.
The code for it was implemented in 2003: 
<https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=137006>.


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Re: If I remplace the directory C:\Users\RZ\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\SeaMonkey

[Chris Ilias]

On 2016-09-25 2:25 AM, Ray_Net wrote:

Hello !

I have now a new Windows 10 Pro 64 bits PC.
This is what I will do to install SeaMonkey on this new pc;

I will first upgrade to SeaMonkey 2.40 on my old Windows 7 pro 32 bits
PC with all needed extensions, plugins, etc ...
Then I will install SeaMonkey 2.40 on my new Windows 10 Pro 64 bits PC.
and now 
If I remplace the directory C:\Users\RAY\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\
of the new pc with the directory
C:\Users\RZ\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\SeaMonkey of the old pc.

Will I have the same environment and datas ?

I suspect problems ... see hereafter.

What happens with the installed plugins, extensions...etc ...
What happens with the "Helper Applications" when a lot of applications
not installed yet ?

Should I do differently to have the same options/.parameters, all the
mails and newsgroups, all the bookmarks ?


I don't think you'll have problems. The prefs.js file contains relative 
file paths, so you shouldn't have to worry about editing it.

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Re: Is "SeaMonkey 2.40" the last version, or will there be further updates?

[Chris Ilias]

On 2016-09-23 11:14 PM, pthf1n...@gmail.com wrote:

anybody have a link to a viable version of Seamonkey later than 2.40?
Is the Seamonkey for Windows 7 project dead?
would appreciate any news or comments.


The next planned release has no ETA yet, but it's being worked on. 2.40 
is the latest official release. If you see links to anything higher, 
those are either unofficial builds, or testing builds (Beta, Alpha, 
Nightly).


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Re: SeaMonkey no longer minimizes to the taskbar correctly

[Chris Ilias]

On 20/09/2016 1:48 PM, NoOp wrote:

On 9/20/2016 5:47 AM, Chris Ilias wrote:

On 20/09/2016 2:53 AM, Desiree wrote:

When did it become a feature?


Assuming we're talking about the tabs preview feature
(browser.taskbar.previews.enable), it was implemented in SeaMonkey 1.1
(Jan 2007).



Perhaps she is talking about 'Implement optional taskbar preview-per-tab':
 SeaMonkey 2.1:
http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.21/changes
"Features in Beta 1
...
Implement optional taskbar preview-per-tab (pref:
browser.taskbar.previews.enable) (Bug 839891).
"
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=839891


You're right; I was wrong. :)

I was thinking of browser.tabs.tooltippreview.enable

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Re: SeaMonkey no longer minimizes to the taskbar correctly

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On 20/09/2016 2:53 AM, Desiree wrote:

When did it become a feature?


Assuming we're talking about the tabs preview feature 
(browser.taskbar.previews.enable), it was implemented in SeaMonkey 1.1 
(Jan 2007).


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Re: Adblock Plus Opens Door to Advertising For a Price

[Chris Ilias]

On 19/09/2016 9:58 AM, Arnie Goetchius wrote:

The NY Times article of 9/19/2016 titled:

"Adblock Plus, Created to Protect Users From Ads, Instead Opens the Door"

states that "In 2011, Adblock Plus was altered and became a tool that,
instead of blocking bad ads, allowed ads it deemed 'acceptable' to be
seen, often for a price -- a controversial move that has positioned it
as a gatekeeper between advertisers and its huge user base."

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/19/business/media/adblock-plus-created-to-protect-users-from-ads-opens-the-door.html

So is there an alternative to Adblock Plus?



I recommend uBlock Origin 
<https://addons.mozilla.org/seamonkey/addon/ublock-origin/>


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