Re: 2.6.1 Tabs - Must I Use Right Click ALL the Time ? !
On Mon, 16 Jan 2012 13:46:40 -0200, MCBastos myemail@example.invalid wrote: Interviewed by CNN on 15/01/2012 23:49, Doors told the world: Modifying the context menu's is not hard, just annoying to have to do every update. OK, let's be objective. I get that you don't like tabs. So you can change defaults so middle-clicking/alt-clicking (or even regular clicking) will open new windows instead of new tabs. I get that if you don't like tabs, and have switched all defaults for new window instead of new tab, having a feature that opens a tab anyway is annoying. But Jens and the other developers have done a fix for that, so at some point it won't happen again. I have played with the 2.7 beta in my xp64 install and it is nice. It works well and the antitab choice I found in about:config eliminated all but the context menu thing which is in my eyes, and admitedly possibiliy only my eyes, a glitch. So now you are complaining that the feature is still available if you do it the hard way (opening a page through right-clicking and selecting on the menu). So you are asking for some sort of preference to hide completely the tabbing feature, since you don't use it. I had hoped it would take care of that as well. I use the context menu to open new windows A LOT!, and I am not the best keyboard person on the planet, I miss. You might open a RFE bug for that, but I have my doubts if it would get much attention -- this would add code complexity for a pretty niche request (there are other unpopular, more in-your-face features in Seamonkey which don't get hide it from my sight prefs -- Composer being a case). It would probably be best served by an extension. By the way, there is an extension (for Firefox) called Context Menu Editor. It's a matter of talking the author into making it Seamonkey-compatible, but it should help. I don't use firefox, the layout is far more dificul for me. It is to IE to my eyes, and I admit it might just be me. I will however look it up. I had to modify the bruceclay one to make it work in SM. Perhaps I can do the same for the context editor. Doors. -- Doors - Dont look at the future in a window. Walk to a door - Open it, and go there. http://www.freedoors.org AntiSpam in effect! doorsremov...@freedoors.org mailto:doorsremov...@freedoors.org ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: 2.6.1 Tabs - Must I Use Right Click ALL the Time ? !
Interviewed by CNN on 15/01/2012 23:49, Doors told the world: Modifying the context menu's is not hard, just annoying to have to do every update. OK, let's be objective. I get that you don't like tabs. So you can change defaults so middle-clicking/alt-clicking (or even regular clicking) will open new windows instead of new tabs. I get that if you don't like tabs, and have switched all defaults for new window instead of new tab, having a feature that opens a tab anyway is annoying. But Jens and the other developers have done a fix for that, so at some point it won't happen again. So now you are complaining that the feature is still available if you do it the hard way (opening a page through right-clicking and selecting on the menu). So you are asking for some sort of preference to hide completely the tabbing feature, since you don't use it. You might open a RFE bug for that, but I have my doubts if it would get much attention -- this would add code complexity for a pretty niche request (there are other unpopular, more in-your-face features in Seamonkey which don't get hide it from my sight prefs -- Composer being a case). It would probably be best served by an extension. By the way, there is an extension (for Firefox) called Context Menu Editor. It's a matter of talking the author into making it Seamonkey-compatible, but it should help. -- MCBastos This message has been protected with the 2ROT13 algorithm. Unauthorized use will be prosecuted under the DMCA. -=-=- ... Sent from my HOLMES IV. * Added by TagZilla 0.066.2 running on Seamonkey 2.6 * Get it at http://xsidebar.mozdev.org/modifiedmailnews.html#tagzilla ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: 2.6.1 Tabs - Must I Use Right Click ALL the Time ? !
On Fri, 13 Jan 2012 23:58:55 -0200, MCBastos myemail@example.invalid wrote: Interviewed by CNN on 13/01/2012 22:41, Doors told the world: Hopefully this finally kill ALL!! tabs. Will I be able to force the context menu to always open new windows as well? What do you mean? The context menu is a... well, a menu. You open it and choose what you want. If you want a new window, you choose Open in a new window (as opposed as Bookmark this link, Open in a new tab or a dozen other options). I'm human, I sometimes miss. It would just be nice not to have to modify things to get what I want is the only thing I am hoping for. Modifying the context menu's is not hard, just annoying to have to do every update. A lot like ridding myself of that left column google added to the search results pages. I would like it to bo gone and I am still working on a filter to kill it now that the one from SEO bruceclay no longer works properly. It would just be nicenot to have to go vast lengths is all. If I had the skill with C/C++ I would remove the entire tabs f^$^ture from my own personal compile and maybe offer it to others. Lacking the skills, all I can do is ask others whie I learn. Though I mnust admit that after I go to a wide screen I will look at tabs if they can be put on the left or the right. Not that I look forward to it or anything,I doubt it will work for me, but I really don't like to assume without checking. Doors. -- Doors - Dont look at the future in a window. Walk to a door - Open it, and go there. http://www.freedoors.org AntiSpam in effect! doorsremov...@freedoors.org mailto:doorsremov...@freedoors.org ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: 2.6.1 Tabs - Must I Use Right Click ALL the Time ? !
On 1/15/12 5:49 PM, Doors wrote: On Fri, 13 Jan 2012 23:58:55 -0200, MCBastos myemail@example.invalid wrote: Interviewed by CNN on 13/01/2012 22:41, Doors told the world: Hopefully this finally kill ALL!! tabs. Will I be able to force the context menu to always open new windows as well? What do you mean? The context menu is a... well, a menu. You open it and choose what you want. If you want a new window, you choose Open in a new window (as opposed as Bookmark this link, Open in a new tab or a dozen other options). I'm human, I sometimes miss. It would just be nice not to have to modify things to get what I want is the only thing I am hoping for. Modifying the context menu's is not hard, just annoying to have to do every update. A lot like ridding myself of that left column google added to the search results pages. I would like it to bo gone and I am still working on a filter to kill it now that the one from SEO bruceclay no longer works properly. It would just be nicenot to have to go vast lengths is all. If I had the skill with C/C++ I would remove the entire tabs f^$^ture from my own personal compile and maybe offer it to others. Lacking the skills, all I can do is ask others whie I learn. Though I mnust admit that after I go to a wide screen I will look at tabs if they can be put on the left or the right. Not that I look forward to it or anything,I doubt it will work for me, but I really don't like to assume without checking. Doors. What harm results from leaving an unused item in a pull-down context menu? -- David E. Ross http://www.rossde.com/. Anyone who thinks government owns a monopoly on inefficient, obstructive bureaucracy has obviously never worked for a large corporation. © 1997 by David E. Ross ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: 2.6.1 Tabs - Must I Use Right Click ALL the Time ? !
On Wed, 11 Jan 2012 08:49:48 +0100, Jens Hatlak j...@junetz.de wrote: Doors wrote: I have set all those to eliminate tabs. Yet the addon manager keeps appearing in tabs. This will be fixed in SeaMonkey 2.7, due January 31. HTH Jens YAY Thank you very much. Hopefully this finally kill ALL!! tabs. Will I be able to force the context menu to always open new windows as well? Doors. -- Doors - Dont look at the future in a window. Walk to a door - Open it, and go there. http://www.freedoors.org AntiSpam in effect! doorsremov...@freedoors.org mailto:doorsremov...@freedoors.org ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: 2.6.1 Tabs - Must I Use Right Click ALL the Time ? !
Interviewed by CNN on 13/01/2012 22:41, Doors told the world: Hopefully this finally kill ALL!! tabs. Will I be able to force the context menu to always open new windows as well? What do you mean? The context menu is a... well, a menu. You open it and choose what you want. If you want a new window, you choose Open in a new window (as opposed as Bookmark this link, Open in a new tab or a dozen other options). -- MCBastos This message has been protected with the 2ROT13 algorithm. Unauthorized use will be prosecuted under the DMCA. -=-=- ... Sent from my Sinclair ZX81. * Added by TagZilla 0.066.2 running on Seamonkey 2.6 * Get it at http://xsidebar.mozdev.org/modifiedmailnews.html#tagzilla ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: 2.6.1 Tabs - Must I Use Right Click ALL the Time ? !
On 1/10/12 11:49 PM, Jens Hatlak wrote: Doors wrote: I have set all those to eliminate tabs. Yet the addon manager keeps appearing in tabs. This will be fixed in SeaMonkey 2.7, due January 31. HTH Jens Bug #665678 at https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=665678. -- David E. Ross http://www.rossde.com/. Anyone who thinks government owns a monopoly on inefficient, obstructive bureaucracy has obviously never worked for a large corporation. © 1997 by David E. Ross ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: 2.6.1 Tabs - Must I Use Right Click ALL the Time ? !
On Thu, 05 Jan 2012 21:15:26 +1100, Daniel d...@albury.nospam.net.au wrote: Doors wrote: On Tue, 27 Dec 2011 22:06:05 -0800, DoctorBillab...@hotmail.com wrote: HI, I have exactly the opposite problem. I have searched hi and lo, but found no solution anywhere. I DO NOT!!!, want any tabs ever. They are disruptive to the way I work and would like to utterly remove the function from my browser. I still run 2.0.14 with modified nscontext and two other files that remove all tabs. I have tried 2.6.1 in vbox and in a portable install and am so far unable to remove the cursed things. I search for ways to get rid of the pests and I get advice about hiow better they are from everyone. They are not better for me and do not want them. I made the same cghanges to 2.6.1 that I did to 2.0.14 and still I get tabs sometimes. I managed to even redirect the context menu for tabs to open new windows instead on 2.0.14 Does anyone have a clue how to do the same to 2.6.1 ?? I appreciate that I can still disable that stupid search inpage that someone decided looked great on the menu bar, thanks for thinking of us who like the floating search. I often have over a dozen windows open at once and the ability to specify a text search in one then do all the windows one at a time by hitting F3 is great. Now if only there was some way to do the same to tabs. Is there a way to redirect gbrowser.add to a newwindow function instead? Thanks for listening to my rants. Thanks again for any help in advance. Snip Doors, have you had a look at your Edit-Preferences-Browser-Tabbed Browsing and Edit-Preferences-Browser-Link Behavior settings. Should be able to set things up the way you want. I have set all those to eliminate tabs. Yet the addon manager keeps appearing in tabs. The context menu still contains tabs that open unlike I was able to modify 2.0.14 not to anymore. I did everything to 2.6.1 that I did to 2.0.14 and I still get tabs. While I can understand that some people find tabs convinient or easy to use, why do the rest of us have them forced on us? All I would really like is a setting like there is for new search in page function. I hate it, but a single setting eliminates it. I would of course perfer if it were off by default, but htat is just me being pointlessly pickty and in no way expect it. If I had another newer browser that did't support them I would switch, but they appear to be all the craze. Has anyone managed to do a compile your own on seamonkey. My C/C++ skills are up to little stuff in Cygwin/Mingw, not a monster like this or I wuld alter everything to deny all tabs always. And maybe remove the new search thing along with RSS and a couple of nags while I am at it. But lacking the necessary skills, I am hoping someone out there knows more than I do. Doors. -- Doors - Dont look at the future in a window. Walk to a door - Open it, and go there. http://www.freedoors.org AntiSpam in effect! doorsremov...@freedoors.org mailto:doorsremov...@freedoors.org ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: 2.6.1 Tabs - Must I Use Right Click ALL the Time ? !
Doors wrote: I have set all those to eliminate tabs. Yet the addon manager keeps appearing in tabs. This will be fixed in SeaMonkey 2.7, due January 31. HTH Jens -- Jens Hatlak http://jens.hatlak.de/ SeaMonkey Trunk Tracker http://smtt.blogspot.com/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: 2.6.1 Tabs - Must I Use Right Click ALL the Time ? !
Le 27 décembre 2011, DoctorBill a écrit :
Another thing about tabs - For God's Sake, DO NOT click on that Open
All in Tabs when looking at your Favorites (Bookmarks) tool bar.!
Here's how to remove that button (posted here a while ago for SM 2.1 [by
Philip Taylor?]). Place the following two lines in userChrome.css:
menuitem[label=Open All in Tabs] {display: none!important}
menuseparator.bookmarks-actions-menuseparator {display: none!important}
userChrome.css must be located in the chrome folder of your profile. If
you never tweaked your chrome, you'll only find there
userChrome-example.css: make a copy of it, named userChrome.css, and
place the above two lines at its end.
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Re: 2.6.1 Tabs - Must I Use Right Click ALL the Time ? !
David E. Ross nobody@nowhere.invalid wrote in message news:co2dnyyeu_n6p2btnz2dnuvz_oadn...@mozilla.org... On 12/27/11 10:06 PM, DoctorBill wrote: So far 2.6.1 is working and it imported all my E-Mail, Passwords and Favorites from SM 1.1 w/o any problemsknock on wood ! I wanted to stay with SM 1.1 because the Tabbed Browser (Piro) gave me tabs when I clicked on anything. Now the 2.6.1's tabs require me to remember to right click and pick the menu choice Open New Tabwhat a PITA ! I have clicked on Open New Tab on ALL the choices under 'Tabbed Browsing in BROWSER in Preferences - but it does not work ! Why ? Do I need to toggle something else ? DoctorBill Do you have a 3-button mouse? (A scroll wheel is a button.) If so, do the following: 1. In Windows (not SeaMonkey), select [Start Settings Control Panel]. 2. On the Control Panel window, double-click on the Mouse icon. 3. On the Mouse Properties window, select the Buttons tab. 4. On the Buttons tab, select the middle line in the Button Assignment window and then the Modify button. I don't have that. I have: switch the primary button assignment, double click speed and clicklock. 5. In the pull-down selection list on the Modify Button Function window, select Context Menu/Alternate Select. I don't have this either. XP Pro SP2 6. Select the OK buttons to close the Modify Button Function and Mouse Properties windows. Close the Control Panel window. 7. On the SeaMonkey menu bar, select [Edit Preferences]. 8. On the left side of the Preferences window under Category, select [Browser Tabbed Browsing]. 9. On the Tabbed Browsing pane, under Open tabs instead of windows for, check the first checkbox. For me this was checked by default in SM when I upgraded and also, sadly, lost Piro's TBE (had I known TBE would be lost, I would not have upgraded as TBE was why I was using SM). I never tried this middle click with my mouse as I didn't think it would work since I don't have the settings you describe in Control Panel/Mouse. I tried it just now on a link in a web forum and it works! I had been right clicking on links and choosing open in new tab like DoctorBill. So, I am glad to have learned how to get a new tab to open when clicking on links without having to do right click, etc. but with TBE now missing from SM, I will be using Fx mostly since I am totally addicted to TBE3 in Fx and especialy to Tree Style tabs. 10. Select the OK button to close the Preferences window. Before #10, you might also select [Browser Link Behavior] on the left side of the Preferences window under Category. There, you can set whether to launch tabs or new windows when a Web page or other application tries to force a new SeaMonkey window. -- David E. Ross http://www.rossde.com/. Anyone who thinks government owns a monopoly on inefficient, obstructive bureaucracy has obviously never worked for a large corporation. © 1997 by David E. Ross ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: 2.6.1 Tabs - Must I Use Right Click ALL the Time ? !
DoctorBill wrote: DoctorBill wrote: So far 2.6.1 is working and it imported all my E-Mail, Passwords and Favorites from SM 1.1 w/o any problemsknock on wood ! I wanted to stay with SM 1.1 because the Tabbed Browser (Piro) gave me tabs when I clicked on anything. Now the 2.6.1's tabs require me to remember to right click and pick the menu choice Open New Tabwhat a PITA ! I have clicked on Open New Tab on ALL the choices under 'Tabbed Browsing in BROWSER in Preferences - but it does not work ! Why ? Do I need to toggle something else ? DoctorBill Another thing about tabs - For God's Sake, DO NOT click on that Open All in Tabs when looking at your Favorites (Bookmarks) tool bar.! I made that mistake on a favorite folder with about 20 favorites in it DoctorBill I find that feature very useful. I visit 9 sites every day, and navigating to all of them in my bookmark hierarchy was an aggravation (it becomes harder to accurately navigate as you age). I put them in a folder and use the open all tool, and it is easy to visit them. I guess like any tool, if you misuse it you can get poor results. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: 2.6.1 Tabs - Must I Use Right Click ALL the Time ? !
DoctorBill wrote: So far 2.6.1 is working and it imported all my E-Mail, Passwords and Favorites from SM 1.1 w/o any problemsknock on wood ! I wanted to stay with SM 1.1 because the Tabbed Browser (Piro) gave me tabs when I clicked on anything. Now the 2.6.1's tabs require me to remember to right click and pick the menu choice Open New Tabwhat a PITA ! I have clicked on Open New Tab on ALL the choices under 'Tabbed Browsing in BROWSER in Preferences - but it does not work ! Why ? Do I need to toggle something else ? DoctorBill Gee whiz, DoctorBill, you're doing better than me!! On my SM 2.5, at Pref-Browser-Tabbed Browsing, I only have Tab Display (with four options). When opening a bookmark group (with two options and Open tabs instead of windows for (with two options). In Prefs-Browser-Link Behaviour, I can select what happens when clicking on Links. -- Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to you and yours, and may 2012 be better than 2011. Daniel ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: 2.6.1 Tabs - Must I Use Right Click ALL the Time ? !
Daniel wrote: DoctorBill wrote: So far 2.6.1 is working and it imported all my E-Mail, Passwords and Favorites from SM 1.1 w/o any problemsknock on wood ! I wanted to stay with SM 1.1 because the Tabbed Browser (Piro) gave me tabs when I clicked on anything. Now the 2.6.1's tabs require me to remember to right click and pick the menu choice Open New Tabwhat a PITA ! I have clicked on Open New Tab on ALL the choices under 'Tabbed Browsing in BROWSER in Preferences - but it does not work ! Why ? Do I need to toggle something else ? DoctorBill Gee whiz, DoctorBill, you're doing better than me!! On my SM 2.5, at Pref-Browser-Tabbed Browsing, I only have Tab Display (with four options). When opening a bookmark group (with two options and Open tabs instead of windows for (with two options). In Prefs-Browser-Link Behaviour, I can select what happens when clicking on Links. Everything here is toggled to form New Tabs - yet they don't form new tabs... I just started. A tab for Google is on the opening of SeaMonkey. I click on a Bookmarked link to the Stock Market for USO and. no new tab. Google is gone and the Stock page takes over the same tab. What is wrong here ? I go BACK to Google, then click the Bookmark and then right click the link, go to 'open in a new tab' - THEN I get a new Tab. Only in that way can I get new tabs. BUG ? DoctorBill -- When all is said and done, more will be said than done. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: 2.6.1 Tabs - Must I Use Right Click ALL the Time ? !
On 12/27/11 10:06 PM, DoctorBill wrote: So far 2.6.1 is working and it imported all my E-Mail, Passwords and Favorites from SM 1.1 w/o any problemsknock on wood ! I wanted to stay with SM 1.1 because the Tabbed Browser (Piro) gave me tabs when I clicked on anything. Now the 2.6.1's tabs require me to remember to right click and pick the menu choice Open New Tabwhat a PITA ! I have clicked on Open New Tab on ALL the choices under 'Tabbed Browsing in BROWSER in Preferences - but it does not work ! Why ? Do I need to toggle something else ? DoctorBill Do you have a 3-button mouse? (A scroll wheel is a button.) If so, do the following: 1. In Windows (not SeaMonkey), select [Start Settings Control Panel]. 2. On the Control Panel window, double-click on the Mouse icon. 3. On the Mouse Properties window, select the Buttons tab. 4. On the Buttons tab, select the middle line in the Button Assignment window and then the Modify button. 5. In the pull-down selection list on the Modify Button Function window, select Context Menu/Alternate Select. 6. Select the OK buttons to close the Modify Button Function and Mouse Properties windows. Close the Control Panel window. 7. On the SeaMonkey menu bar, select [Edit Preferences]. 8. On the left side of the Preferences window under Category, select [Browser Tabbed Browsing]. 9. On the Tabbed Browsing pane, under Open tabs instead of windows for, check the first checkbox. 10. Select the OK button to close the Preferences window. Before #10, you might also select [Browser Link Behavior] on the left side of the Preferences window under Category. There, you can set whether to launch tabs or new windows when a Web page or other application tries to force a new SeaMonkey window. -- David E. Ross http://www.rossde.com/. Anyone who thinks government owns a monopoly on inefficient, obstructive bureaucracy has obviously never worked for a large corporation. © 1997 by David E. Ross ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: 2.6.1 Tabs - Must I Use Right Click ALL the Time ? !
DoctorBill wrote: So far 2.6.1 is working and it imported all my E-Mail, Passwords and Favorites from SM 1.1 w/o any problemsknock on wood ! I wanted to stay with SM 1.1 because the Tabbed Browser (Piro) gave me tabs when I clicked on anything. Now the 2.6.1's tabs require me to remember to right click and pick the menu choice Open New Tabwhat a PITA ! I have clicked on Open New Tab on ALL the choices under 'Tabbed Browsing in BROWSER in Preferences - but it does not work ! Why ? Do I need to toggle something else ? DoctorBill Another thing about tabs - For God's Sake, DO NOT click on that Open All in Tabs when looking at your Favorites (Bookmarks) tool bar.! I made that mistake on a favorite folder with about 20 favorites in it DoctorBill -- When all is said and done, more will be said than done. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
