Re: [Biofuel] WVO collector and restaurant threatened by rendering company
Read the last part of the following, from - http://www.metaefficient.com/metaefficient/archives/biodiesel/ From the IRS: The applicable diesel fuel tax rate is 24.4 cents per gallon. This tax is paid by submitting Form 720 Quarterly Federal Excise Tax Return. Biodiesel is considered as a blended diesel fuel. The person that produces the blended diesel fuel, outside the bulk transfer/terminal system (blender), is liable for the tax which is imposed under IRC section 4081(b) upon sale or removal. Blended diesel fuel is any mixture of diesel fuel, with respect to which tax has been imposed and any other liquid(such as kerosene)which no tax has been imposed. The number of gallons of blended diesel fuel subject to the tax, is the difference between the total number of gallons of blended diesel fuel removed or sold, and the number of gallons of previously taxed diesel fuel used to produce the blended diesel fuel. (---IMPORTANT PART---) An exclusion from tax on the blended taxable fuel mixture is provided in Treasury Regulations section 48.4081-1(c)(1)(ii) for minor blending if: during any calendar quarter the removal or sale of the mixture in aggregate by the blender is less than 400 gallons. The IRS Form is 720 and publication 510. Thats for the feds... I can't say for the state. Most states probably have similar rules. Hello all, The rendering company (company that collects used restaurant fryer oil), issued angry verbal threats to the Mom and Pop burger joint that gives me their used fryer oil. The restaurant puts their used fryer oil into my buckets, and I schlep it away. The renderers told the restaurant that it was illegal for them to give me their used fryer oil. They demanded that the restaurant give them my name and phone number. The rendererssaid that it was illegal forpeople to use fryer oil, or any other non-petroleum product, for fuel without paying a fuel tax to the state and feds, and that the restaurant was responsible to see that that tax is paid since it is their oil that is being used as a fuel. They also said there is legislation about to go through the California senate that supports their allegations. Thoughts? Thanks, Frieda ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] Development Yields Antifreeze from Biodiesel
Development Yields Antifreeze from Biodiesel From: http://www.renewableenergyaccess.com/ Columbia, Missouri [RenewableEnergyAccess.com] - 2005-08-18 - In addition to topping off your gas tank with biodiesel, a new advance could let you fill your vehicle's cooling system with a biomass-derived antifreeze. A new process developed at the University of Missouri-Columbia (MU) creates a valuable secondary product from the biodiesel manufacturing process that makes the production cycle both profitable and affordable. Galen Suppes, chief science officer of the MU-based Renewable Alternatives, developed a process for converting glycerin, a byproduct of the biodiesel production process, into propylene glycol, which can be used as nontoxic antifreeze for automobiles. Suppes said the new propylene glycol product will meet every performance standard, is made from domestic soybeans and is nontoxic. Suppes said this technology can reduce the cost of biodiesel production by as much as $0.40 per gallon of biodiesel. The market for propylene glycol already is established, with a billion pounds produced a year. The price of propylene glycol is quite high while glycerin's price is low, so based on the low cost of feed stock and high value of propylene glycol, the process appears to be most profitable, Suppes said. The consumers want antifreeze that is both renewable and made from biomass rather than petroleum from which propylene glycol currently is produced. The creation of a valuable secondary product could help mainstream the use of biodiesel. In 2004, biodiesel producers sold 30 million gallons of fuel, up from 500,000 gallons in 1999. It's still, however, a relatively niche fuel. At best, right now biodiesel production is only part of the solution, Suppes said. Current biodiesel production in the United States is about 0.03 billion gallons per year as compared to distillate fuel oil consumption of 57 billion gallons per year. Renewable Alternatives is currently licensing this technology to three biodiesel plants. The National Science Foundation and Missouri Soybean Farmers are helping to fund the research. ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] Venezuela Oil Shipments to China Up Markedly, State Oil Firm Says
http://ap.tbo.com/ap/breaking/MGB1WGH9QCE.html Venezuela Oil Shipments to China Up Markedly, State Oil Firm Says The Associated Press Published: Aug 23, 2005 CARACAS, Venezuela (AP) - Venezuelan oil shipments to China increased fivefold this year, surpassing 68,000 barrels a day on average, the state oil company Petroleos de Venezuela S.A. said Tuesday. The figure was released as officials announced Monday that the Venezuelan firm known as PDVSA had opened an office in China, the company's first in Asia. Last year, an average of 12,300 barrels of oil a day were shipped to China, meaning that exports surged more than fivefold on average in 2005, PDVSA said in a statement. Officials say Venezuela, the world's fifth largest oil exporter, plans to ship as much as 300,000 barrels of crude a day to China and other Asian countries in the coming years. This level of sales would require PDVSA to send out at least four large oil tankers with a capacity of roughly 2 million barrels every month, PDVSA said. Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez has promoted a closer relationship with China, India and other Asian countries in an effort to secure new markets for oil. Currently, Venezuela's top buyer is the United States. Chavez has clashed repeatedly with U.S. officials, saying U.S. imperialism is a threat to the world and that new ways need to be found to move toward socialism and help the poor. PDVSA also recently opened an office in Cuba, a close Venezuelan ally. Officials have said the Havana office will coordinate PDVSA's oil business in the Caribbean region. The South American country, meanwhile, also plans to expand its fleet of oil tankers so it can sell more crude to Asia and other faraway markets. AP-ES-08-23-05 1037EDT ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] How the G8 lied to the world on aid
http://www.guardian.co.uk/comment/story/0,3604,1554311,00.html How the G8 lied to the world on aid The truth about Gleneagles puts a cloud over the New York summit By Mark Curtis 08/23/05 The Guardian -- -- World leaders are now preparing for the millennium summit to be held in New York next month, described by the UN as a once-in-a-generation opportunity to take bold decisions. Yet the current draft outcome simply repeats what was agreed on aid and debt last month in Gleneagles. The reality of that G8 deal has recently emerged - and is likely to condemn the New York summit to be an expensive failure. The G8 agreed to increase aid from rich countries by $48bn a year by 2010. When Tony Blair announced this to parliament, he said that in addition ... we agreed to cancel 100% of the multilateral debts of the most indebted countries. He also stated that aid would come with no conditions attached. These were big claims, all of which can now be shown to be false. First, in recent evidence to the Treasury committee, Gordon Brown made the astonishing admission that the aid increase includes money put aside for debt relief. So the funds rich countries devote to writing off poor countries' debts will be counted as aid. Russia's increase in aid will consist entirely of write-offs. A third of France's aid budget consists of money for debt relief; much of this will be simply a book-keeping exercise worth nothing on the ground since many debts are not being serviced. The debt deal is not in addition to the aid increase, as Blair claimed, but part of it. Far from representing a 100% debt write-off, the deal applies initially to only 18 countries, which will save just $1bn a year in debt-service payments. The 62 countries that need full debt cancellation to reach UN poverty targets are paying 10 times more in debt service. And recently leaked World Bank documents show that the G8 agreed only three years' worth of debt relief for these 18 countries. They state that countries will have no benefit from the initiative unless there is full donor financing. The deal also involves debts only to the International Monetary Fund, the World Bank and the African Development Bank, whereas many countries have debts to other organisations. It is a kick in the teeth for the African Union, whose recent summit called for full debt cancellation for all African nations. The government's claim that debt relief will free up resources for health and education is also a deception. The deal explicitly says that those countries receiving debt relief will have their aid cut by the same amount. If, say, Senegal is forgiven $100m a year in debt service, World Bank lending will be slashed by the same amount. That sum will be retained in the World Bank pot for lending across all poor countries, but only when they sign up to World Bank/IMF economic policy conditions. And this leads to the third false claim. Blair's assertion that aid will come with no conditions is contradicted by Hilary Benn, his development secretary, who told a parliamentary committee on July 19 that around half of World Bank aid programmes have privatisation conditions. Recent research by the NGO network Eurodad shows that conditions attached to World Bank aid are rising. Benin, for example, now has to meet 130 conditions to qualify for aid, compared with 58 in the previous agreement. Eleven of 13 countries analysed have to promote privatisation to receive World Bank loans, the two exceptions having already undergone extensive privatisation programmes. Yet in the G8 press conference Blair refuted the suggestion that privatisation would be a condition for aid. According to recently leaked documents, four rich-country representatives to the IMF board want to add yet more conditions to debt relief. This will be a key topic for discussion at the IMF's annual meeting the week after the millennium summit. The British government opposes new conditions but continues to support overall conditionality. This makes a mockery of Brown and Blair's claim that poor countries are now free to decide their own policies. It is true that the G8 communique stated that developing countries ... need to decide, plan and sequence their economic policies to fit with their own development strategies. Yet it also stated that African countries need to build a much stronger investment climate and increase integration into the global economy - code for promoting free trade - and that aid resources would be focused on countries meeting these objectives. Poor countries are free to do what rich countries tell them. The cost is huge. Christian Aid estimates that Africa has lost $272bn in the past 20 years from being forced to promote trade liberalisation as the price for receiving World Bank loans and debt relief. The draft outcome of the millennium summit says nothing about abolishing these conditions and contains little to address
Re: [Biofuel] Robertson / Chavez story on CNN
Kill Chavez! - the video Christian Minister In Televised Call For Murder Of Venezuela's President Rev. Robertson, host of Christian Broadcasting Network's The 700 Club and founder of the Christian Coalition of America, called for the assassination of Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez. Click here to view Quick Time video http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article9918.htm http://snipurl.com/h641 ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Robertson / Chavez story on CNN
Unbelievably stupid, insane...both appropriate, yet still lacking something in regards to just how out of touch this jerk has been for years. Granted, this is the first occasion I know of where he has publicly called for anyone's execution, but he has been equally brilliant Robertsonism's for years. I'm looking for some now, hope to have some soon. On 8/24/05, Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kill Chavez! - the videoChristian Minister In Televised Call For Murder Of Venezuela's PresidentRev. Robertson, host of Christian Broadcasting Network's The 700 Cluband founder of the Christian Coalition of America, called for the assassination of Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez.Click here to view Quick Time videohttp://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article9918.htm http://snipurl.com/h641___Biofuel mailing listBiofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.orgBiofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.htmlSearch the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages):http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ -- Mike KAntiFossilMN, USAThe genius of our ruling class is that it has kept a majority of the people from ever questioning the inequity of a system where most people drudge along, paying heavytaxes for which they get nothing in return: Gore Vidal For in reason, all government without the consent of the governed is the very definition of slavery: Jonathan SwiftQuotes from Information Clearing House ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] Titration
Dear all, Need help in this process. I have read about this procedure and followed it exactly as it said in the JTF. I even bought a digital pH meter to make my life easier but this proved otherwise. Putting the pH meter into oil the reading does not stop moving, it take minutes to accertain whether the pH meter has stopped at a correct reading. Thereafter, when we titrate it, the pH meter goes wild again. Is there any better way to read the pH. I think all my titration results is as wild as the pH meter's reading and that will make my process wild as well. I am trying to get the pH reading at 7 +_ 0.5 From what I read, this should not give us too much of a problem. Right? Any other suggestion on this titration process? Jeff _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] (no subject)
Hi, I live in Seale, Alabama. I would be happy to work with you. I have been making biodiesel for almost 3 years now. I look forward to hearing from you. Cheers! Michael Lendzian CINS Network Support Team Columbus State University CINS/Center for Commerce Technology Room 105 706.569.3044 (help desk) - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tuesday, August 23, 2005 7:22 pm Subject: [Biofuel] (no subject) I am looking for someone in Alabama, preferably Birmingham area that is making bio fuel that would be willing to show me the process and equipment used. I will also drive to TN, GA, MS, N-FL, if anyone is available. Thanks, Hunter ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.or g Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages):http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] WVO collector and restaurant threatened by rendering company
Hi Frieda, There are lawyers out there that HAVE worked with the little guy/girl against the big renderers. You may talk to one. I learned that the restuarant should give you a receipt for the grease you collect. In some states, it is illegal for anyone who is not a (state) registered renderer to collect WVO. ie Michigan. Perhaps you could become a blue ribbon licensed WVO renderer on the state books? Check into what it would take. The renderers should have a contract with the restaurant maybe? Otherwise they are way out of line. The restuarant owner should tell the renderer to take his grease bin and stick it where the sun won't shine. For the renderer to claim that the restuarant is helping you cheat fuel taxes, is bizarre, but it's even more bizarre that in the same statement that the renderer would claim that the restuarant is responsible for your fuel road tax is the stupidest thing that I have heard of well, since this Pat Robertson thing just popped up... Just my two cents... Good Luck Frieda and keep us posted on how this works out. Surely we will be seeing more run in's with renderer in the near future. Best Regards, Michael Lendzian CINS Network Support Team Columbus State University CINS/Center for Commerce Technology Room 105 706.569.3044 (help desk) Hello all, The rendering company (company that collects used restaurant fryer oil), issued angry verbal threats to the Mom and Pop burger joint that gives me their used fryer oil. The restaurant puts their used fryer oil into my buckets, and I schlep it away. The renderers told the restaurant that it was illegal for them to give me their used fryer oil. They demanded that the restaurant give them my name and phone number. The rendererssaid that it was illegal forpeople to use fryer oil, or any other non-petroleum product, for fuel without paying a fuel tax to the state and feds, and that the restaurant was responsible to see that that tax is paid since it is their oil that is being used as a fuel. They also said there is legislation about to go through the California senate that supports their allegations. Thoughts? Thanks, Frieda ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] What has the world come to
Clif, Plenty of sources have now been quoted above, but I will add my thanks for being the voice of reason and calling for a source. I'm not speaking for anyone but myself when I say this, but I was simply having too much fun! Personally, I don't consider it an attack on Robertson's character because that implies that he had one to begin with. Too me, he's just another televangelist with his hand always out and eager to accept your free-will offering!On 8/23/05, Clif Caldwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:robert luis rabello wrote:bob allen wrote: Quite a prolife christian, huh. I've read somewhere that Many who are insincere will join them . . . You can tell the REAL ones from the pretenders by how closely they follow the one they claim to love.robert luis rabelloThe Edge of JusticeAdventure for Your Mindhttp://www.newadventure.ca Ranger Supercharger Project Pagehttp://www.members.shaw.ca/rabello/___ Biofuel mailing listBiofuel@sustainablelists.orghttp://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever:http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.htmlSearch the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/Is the source for this correct ? It might be good to cite the source if we are going to assasinate not only a living person but also a man'scharacter. If you have the original source for this information thenmaybe we should post it here to help clear this up.Just a thought... Clif___Biofuel mailing listBiofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.orgBiofuel at Journey to Forever:http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages):http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ -- Mike KAntiFossilMN, USAThe genius of our ruling class is that it has kept a majority of the people from ever questioning the inequity of a system where most people drudge along, paying heavy taxes for which they get nothing in return: Gore Vidal For in reason, all government without the consent of the governed is the very definition of slavery:Jonathan SwiftQuotes from Information Clearing House ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Titration
Hello Jeff Dear all, Need help in this process. I have read about this procedure and followed it exactly as it said in the JTF. Uh-huh... Sorry, I get a sinking feeling when someone says that. I even bought a digital pH meter to make my life easier but this proved otherwise. Putting the pH meter into oil Why did you put the pH meter into oil? What oil? the reading does not stop moving, it take minutes to accertain whether the pH meter has stopped at a correct reading. Thereafter, when we titrate it, So you titrate it *after* you put the pH meter into oil? the pH meter goes wild again. Is there any better way to read the pH. I think all my titration results is as wild as the pH meter's reading and that will make my process wild as well. I am trying to get the pH reading at 7 +_ 0.5 Why? Where in the titration process do you have to get a pH reading of 7 +_ 0.5? From what I read, this should not give us too much of a problem. Right? Any other suggestion on this titration process? Well, you say things that wouldn't be included in following the titration procedure exactly as said at JtF. Some people say don't use a pH meter, throw it away... and then the same people say you can use phenol red instead, though it only goes to pH 8, not the required pH 8.5. At JtF we say use either a pH meter (preferably a good one) or phenolphthalein, though we prefer the pH meter and we say why, along with a further explanation from a list member. One reason these people say a pH meter is useless is that they claim you can't measure the pH of oil or biodiesel with a pH meter anyway because a pH meter can only measure an aqueous solution. Yes you can measure the pH of biodiesel with a pH meter, if it's a special one, and in some cases it doesn't even have to be a special one. This is also explained at JtF. There are also directions on how to use and maintain (and callibrate) a pH meter. Anyway the oil you're measuring in titration IS an aqueous solution, or an aqueous mixture anyway, since you're adding 0.1% NaOH (or KOH) solution to the oil-isopropanol mixture, and the other 99.9% of that solution is distilled water. Anyway, nowhere does it say that in titration you have to put the pH meter into oil, nor that you need a reading of pH 7. So I'm afraid I haven't a clue what you've been doing, so I can't say anything about your results. Maybe you should start again: Biodiesel from waste oil http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_make.html#biodwvo Basic titration http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_make2.html#titrate Better titration http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_make2.html#bettertitrate Accurate measurements http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_make2.html#measure pH meters http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_make2.html#pHmeters Phenolphthalein http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_make2.html#phenol pH meters vs phenolphthalein http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_make2.html#phvs Stock methoxide solution http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_make2.html#stockmeth Poor man's titration http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_make2.html#poor Is that what you've been following? Best wishes Keith Addison Journey to Forever KYOTO Pref., Japan http://journeytoforever.org/ Jeff ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] What is Bio-Oil ???
Dear ALL I recently come across a newspaper article in Canada where a company converted biomass to bio-oil through a process called Pyrolysis. Pyrolysisextracts oil from plant material by burning biomass in an oxygen free environment, and then cooling the resulting vapors until they condense into an oil form called Bio-Oil which can be used a renewable form of fuel. What is actually Bio-Oil ? Hydrocarbon? Thanks WH ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Development Yields Antifreeze from Biodiesel
Dear Mr.(Ms) Cris Davidson: Thanks for sharing the info. Pls look in the Web for: Low-Pressure Hydrogenolysis of Glicerol to Propylene Glicol. Available on line at: .sciencedirect.com Mr. F.J. Burgos - Original Message - From: chris davidson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2005 1:17 AM Subject: [Biofuel] Development Yields Antifreeze from Biodiesel Development Yields Antifreeze from Biodiesel From: http://www.renewableenergyaccess.com/ Columbia, Missouri [RenewableEnergyAccess.com] - 2005-08-18 - In addition to topping off your gas tank with biodiesel, a new advance could let you fill your vehicle's cooling system with a biomass-derived antifreeze. A new process developed at the University of Missouri-Columbia (MU) creates a valuable secondary product from the biodiesel manufacturing process that makes the production cycle both profitable and affordable. Galen Suppes, chief science officer of the MU-based Renewable Alternatives, developed a process for converting glycerin, a byproduct of the biodiesel production process, into propylene glycol, which can be used as nontoxic antifreeze for automobiles. Suppes said the new propylene glycol product will meet every performance standard, is made from domestic soybeans and is nontoxic. Suppes said this technology can reduce the cost of biodiesel production by as much as $0.40 per gallon of biodiesel. The market for propylene glycol already is established, with a billion pounds produced a year. The price of propylene glycol is quite high while glycerin's price is low, so based on the low cost of feed stock and high value of propylene glycol, the process appears to be most profitable, Suppes said. The consumers want antifreeze that is both renewable and made from biomass rather than petroleum from which propylene glycol currently is produced. The creation of a valuable secondary product could help mainstream the use of biodiesel. In 2004, biodiesel producers sold 30 million gallons of fuel, up from 500,000 gallons in 1999. It's still, however, a relatively niche fuel. At best, right now biodiesel production is only part of the solution, Suppes said. Current biodiesel production in the United States is about 0.03 billion gallons per year as compared to distillate fuel oil consumption of 57 billion gallons per year. Renewable Alternatives is currently licensing this technology to three biodiesel plants. The National Science Foundation and Missouri Soybean Farmers are helping to fund the research. ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Robertson / Chavez story on CNN
Sir Woody Hackswell wrote: This is just sad. I can't believe he has the nerve to call himself a Christian. =shudder= Jesus would never advocate the assasination of anyone. He'd be more likely to have him over for dinner and tell parables. :) He's just as crazy as Al Qaida. =sigh= But hey... freedom of speech and all. =shurg= Heh... I've tried to imagine the outcome if Jesus visited the average Christian churches of our present times, dressed in a robe and sandals, long hair and all, and spoke the truth to the gathered people. The congregation would be the same voices he heard 2000 years ago, saying Crucify him! Crucify him! Sad to see how nothing really has changed. doug -- All generalizations are false. Including this one. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * This email is constructed entirely with OpenSource Software. No Microsoft databits have been incorporated herein. All existing databits have been constructed from recycled databits. ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Iran's Nuclear Program
By the way Joe, I have some friends in Mississauga (spelling) who have a polka bandand come down to visit. In addition I have somefriends in Montreal (Canada?) who I also see regularly. I have thoroughly enjoyed conversations with ALL of them regarding this and other, similar subjects. I wasn't being sarcastic when I said "words of wisdom...". I have an appreciation for my neighbors to the North. MikeMichael Redler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Joe, "...suppose everybody just folded their arms and said 'no'?" Man! Don't do that. I just had to breath into a paper bag for the last ten minutes! The potential of a movement can make the power of money insignificant. "Still wouldn't that be a lark eh?" Ah ha!! A Canuck! I should have known. Words of wisdom from the North. :-) MikeJoe Street [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Mike;What if they called a war and nobody showed? The odd draft dodger is easy to deal with but suppose everybody just folded their arms and said '"no"?Trouble is joe average is too well indoctrinated to consider a little civil disobedience. Where would they incarcerate them all? Gitmo would have to be expanded to take all of Cuba and then we would have another humanitarian issue with poor Cubans being pushed into the sea!If only there was someone with deep enough pockets to run a bunch of anti war ads on the idiot box during prime time, ahh but they'd never put it on no matter how much cash you offered. No doubt the entire network staff would be up on charges for violation of the parrot act or some such nonsense. Yeah they've got all the angles covered as usual. Still wouldn't that be a lark eh? You could use the web, set up an international trust fund for the remedial training of dumb americans. Tell them the truth actually! What a concept. Could even be an alternative for terrorism. Instead of funding terrorists, the money could go to reprogramming american society to allow only reasonable men and women to run their government. Ideas like Truth, Liberty, and Justice for all could be espoused. The idea of democracy could be taught. Imagine the possibilities!Joe___Biofuel mailing listBiofuel@sustainablelists.orghttp://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.orgBiofuel at Journey to Forever:http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.htmlSearch the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages):http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] Magnetic boots
I received the following a few days ago. I suspect there may be folks on this list who would find this interesting. The source is from Anthony Craddock who organizes info for Dr Tom Bearden . the page that is linked at the bottom also has Tom Beardens website linked. Wes Try finding the original magnetic astronauts boots that were developed by NASA. The original boots were excellent. For the acceptance tests, an engineer clad as an astronaut walked across the bottom of a steel beam in a high bay research area, upside down against the pull of Earth's gravity. He stepped as he walked, putting his foot down and then picking it up. There is no problem in finding magnets strong enough to hold the astronaut firmly in such an upside position. The problem with simple magnetic boots using such strong magnets is that, once the foot is planted, unless he is King Kong himself, the astronaut cannot pick up the foot again. However, the Radus boots completely solved that problem. If the permanent magnet fields are switched off for that foot that the astronaut wishes to lift, he can lift it easily and take another step. Then if the fields are switched on again as he places his foot down, this switching of the fields allows him to walk in a manner resembling normal walking, though a little slower. To do that switching by normal battery and coils would be prohibitively bulky and heavy and awkward to say the least. With the Radus boots, the astronaut could pick up his foot by simply switching off the permanent magnetic fields easily. They switched on again when he placed the foot down. And he did not have to carry a huge battery around with him, to furnish enormous current to do that. Well, it doesn't take a genius to see that, when you can switch a permanent magnet's fields easily, and the magnet also has a built-in memory as did the Radus magnets, then with a little ingenuity in switching one could use such switchable magnets to produce a self-switching, self-powered permanent magnet motor. The magnet, being a permanent dipole, is already a particular kind of free energy generator, since it continuously gates magnetic energy directly from the vacuum due to its asymmetry in the energetic vacuum flux. >From the energy barons' viewpoint, those Radus magnets and Radus boots had to go, and go quickly. And go they did. So NASA then developed the present shuffler kind of magnetic boots where the astronaut can't pull his boot loose from the surface, but must scoot his feet along in a sliding and painfully awkward fashion. That way, you see, no one can use the boot magnets which now are just rather ordinary permanent magnets, without memories and without switchable fields to make an overunity device or a self-powering permanent magnet engine. Tom Bearden Radus family members have now very kindly provided photos of the original boots, which can be seen at http://www.cheniere.org/misc/astroboots.htm ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Iran's Nuclear Program
TarynToo wrote: As long as profit and greed trump all other motives, and the most heavily armed country in the world will take up arms for the financial gain of its masters, every country has something to lose. And something to fear. Many Canadians have been wondering what will happen when the US sets it's sights on Canadian resources. When crude prices exceed 100 dollars per barrel the tar sands will begin to look very appealing. Suppose Canada decides that it will demand (which is our right) what it wants for that oil? Our fresh water supply is already under attack. How little will it take before american troops show up to 'restore order' in our sovereign lands. Already it is a fact, little known by Canadians that the US has never officially recognized the sovereignty of our northern waters. (This is so that they can take their nuclear subs under the polar ice without question.) We are basically a defenseless nation. Our military is laughable -our pilots litterally have to take turns flying the handfull of aging f-18's in the air force. We have relied on the umbrella of american might for a long time and the Canada - US border is the longest undefended border in the world. The illusion of the friendly giant has been shattered. It is cause for rising alarm amongst more than a few of my countrymen. Joe ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Titration
Try Phenolphthelein solution. Jeffrey Tan wrote: Dear all, Need help in this process. I have read about this procedure and followed it exactly as it said in the JTF. I even bought a digital pH meter to make my life easier but this proved otherwise. Putting the pH meter into oil the reading does not stop moving, it take minutes to accertain whether the pH meter has stopped at a correct reading. Thereafter, when we titrate it, the pH meter goes wild again. Is there any better way to read the pH. I think all my titration results is as wild as the pH meter's reading and that will make my process wild as well. I am trying to get the pH reading at 7 +_ 0.5 From what I read, this should not give us too much of a problem. Right? Any other suggestion on this titration process? Jeff _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Iran's Nuclear Program
Brian Ramsay wrote: What I'd like to know is - What does a country sitting on top of a sea of oil need with nuclear energy??? In the fifties, the USA was sitting on a sea of oil, and I believe we were the leading oil exporter, but we began the development of peaceful use of atomic energy . Go figure -- Bob Allen http://ozarker.org/bob Science is what we have learned about how to keep from fooling ourselves — Richard Feynman ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Robertson / Chavez story on CNN
Hakan, His followerswould be some of the same group that gave Bush his 52% mandate victory. Tom snip How can a representative of a religious fraction recommend assassination as a solution? Robertson is unbelievable stupid and I wonder who his God is and who are his followers?It is really amazing.Hakansnip___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Magnetic boots
Kewl dude! Ask them to send us one of them 'switchable permanent magnets' to play with so we can build a perpetual motion machine! Wes Moore wrote: I received the following a few days ago. I suspect there may be folks on this list who would find this interesting. The source is from Anthony Craddock who organizes info for Dr Tom Bearden . the page that is linked at the bottom also has Tom Beardens website linked. Wes Try finding the original magnetic astronauts boots that were developed by NASA. The original boots were excellent. For the acceptance tests, an engineer clad as an astronaut walked across the bottom of a steel beam in a high bay research area, upside down against the pull of Earth's gravity. He stepped as he walked, putting his foot "down" and then picking it "up". There is no problem in finding magnets strong enough to hold the astronaut firmly in such an upside position. The problem with simple magnetic boots using such strong magnets is that, once the foot is planted, unless he is King Kong himself, the astronaut cannot pick up the foot again. However, the Radus boots completely solved that problem. If the permanent magnet fields are switched off for that foot that the astronaut wishes to lift, he can lift it easily and take another step. Then if the fields are switched on again as he places his foot down, this switching of the fields allows him to walk in a manner resembling normal walking, though a little slower. To do that switching by normal "battery and coils" would be prohibitively bulky and heavy and awkward to say the least. With the Radus boots, the astronaut could pick up his foot by simply switching off the permanent magnetic fields easily. They switched on again when he placed the foot down. And he did not have to carry a huge battery around with him, to furnish enormous current to do that. Well, it doesn't take a genius to see that, when you can switch a permanent magnet's fields easily, and the magnet also has a built-in memory as did the Radus magnets, then with a little ingenuity in switching one could use such switchable magnets to produce a self-switching, self-powered permanent magnet motor. The magnet, being a permanent dipole, is already a particular kind of "free energy generator", since it continuously gates magnetic energy directly from the vacuum due to its asymmetry in the energetic vacuum flux. From the energy barons' viewpoint, those Radus magnets and Radus boots had to go, and go quickly. And go they did. So NASA then developed the present "shuffler" kind of magnetic boots where the astronaut can't pull his boot loose from the surface, but must "scoot" his feet along in a sliding and painfully awkward fashion. That way, you see, no one can use the boot magnets which now are just rather ordinary permanent magnets, without memories and without switchable fields to make an overunity device or a self-powering permanent magnet engine. Tom Bearden Radus family members have now very kindly provided photos of the original boots, which can be seen at http://www.cheniere.org/misc/astroboots.htm ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] New BD instalation
Dear Friends, Today I started assembling a new BD batch production installation down here in Tryavna, Bulgaria.The purpose is to supply the local bakery with eco fuel. I`v got everything I need as equipment and vessels, so it will be functional within two weeks. Here is the general idea: The feedstock will be neat sunflower oil (an oil refinery is a part of the company I am working for) and the process will be The FOOLPROOF method of St Alex Kac (Got bless him!).And here it goes: Filtered oil trough transportation pump flows into the drying vessel (dryer), where is heated to 600 C, the water is separated and drained from the cone bottom, then under vacuum is circulated with pump trough container, filled with silica gel to remove any water content remaining. Next step the same circulating pump (turbine) is transferring the oil into the reactor, where the acid stage is processed turbine pump mixing adding methanol H2SO4 point by point according to Alex receipt. After processing is over, the oil is transferred into storage tank for settling. In the mean time the dryer is preparing batch #2, which goes the same way. The next day, after settling overnight, starts the second, base stage (batch #2 is still in the reactor). After processing batch #2 goes into storage tank #2 and batch #1 starts processing. Notice: the dryer is preparing another batch meanwhile. Next day: Batch #1 goes into washing vessel #1, equipped for mist and mix washing (there are some references about oxidation of esters by aeration, so I am going to avoid bubble washing). The tank is heated to 350C (propane burners).Drained water is collected and the BD goes to wash tank #2, while batch # 2 starts first wash and the dryer and the reactor are preparing batches # 3 and 4. Eventually, after wash tank #3 the BD goes to the dryer again, where is heated to 450C paces trough silica gel and is filtered in 5 micron filter. Next station lorry`s tanks. Titration is made with samples, taken from the reactor, using digital PH indicator. Unfortunately, the only supply of NaOH is carbonated, so I am going to increase the amount by 25% ( 3.1 x 1.25 = 3.875 g ~ 3.9 g/l). All vessels are stainless steel, around 1100 l each, thermo insulated, propane/immersion heaters, digital thermostats, cone bottom. Pipes are stainless steel, so are the valves. The circulation pumps are stainless steel, turbine, TEFT 3p motors, made in the USSR. The transportation pump is stainless steel, gear, for both directions. The meth is recovered from the BD in the reactor (heating vacuum) and from the glycerin after treating with phosphoric acid. The condenser is 1 inch stainless steel spiral. All equipment origins from a formal dough mixing system. I presume the batches will be 800 l oil. Dear Friends, dear Keith, I will be REALY glad to have your comments and advices! And I have two questions to all: Have you any opinion about concentrated aqueous catalyst ( www.BiodieselGear.com)? Can anyone explain me how could I make paper chromatography test of the BD (the kind of solutions and how to read the results)? Best Regards to all Rumen Slavov Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Iran's Nuclear Program
No doubt mike and I share the same sentiments towards many great folks I have met from south of the border. When I use terms like dumb americans etc I am painfully aware that much of Canadian culture and attitudes are shaped by the mostly american content on the television (amongst those who watch the infernal device) and therefore my comments could be equally taken to refer to americans in the sense of america as North America (I've always felt it a little arrogant of US citizens referring to their country as 'america' anyways) Maybe I should use the term 'western civilization' but then it doesn't seem so civilized when you think about it in global terms. Your spelling is good and Mississauga is nearby and is a great source of KOH. If you like polkas you should come to Waterloo during octoberfest. I am told it is the largest octoberfest celebration in north america.At least we have something to brag about. Right again r.e. Montreal ( the jury is still out on whether or not it is a part of Canada) (joking). Cheers Joe Michael Redler wrote: By the way Joe, I have some friends in Mississauga (spelling) who have a polka bandand come down to visit. In addition I have somefriends in Montreal (Canada?) who I also see regularly. I have thoroughly enjoyed conversations with ALL of them regarding this and other, similar subjects. I wasn't being sarcastic when I said "words of wisdom...". I have an appreciation for my neighbors to the North. Mike Michael Redler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Joe, "...suppose everybody just folded their arms and said 'no'?" Man! Don't do that. I just had to breath into a paper bag for the last ten minutes! The potential of a movement can make the power of money insignificant. "Still wouldn't that be a lark eh?" Ah ha!! A Canuck! I should have known. Words of wisdom from the North. :-) Mike Joe Street [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Mike; What if they called a war and nobody showed? The odd draft dodger is easy to deal with but suppose everybody just folded their arms and said '"no"? Trouble is joe average is too well indoctrinated to consider a little civil disobedience. Where would they incarcerate them all? Gitmo would have to be expanded to take all of Cuba and then we would have another humanitarian issue with poor Cubans being pushed into the sea! If only there was someone with deep enough pockets to run a bunch of anti war ads on the idiot box during prime time, ahh but they'd never put it on no matter how much cash you offered. No doubt the entire network staff would be up on charges for violation of the parrot act or some such nonsense. Yeah they've got all the angles covered as usual. Still wouldn't that be a lark eh? You could use the web, set up an international trust fund for the remedial training of dumb americans. Tell them the truth actually! What a concept. Could even be an alternative for terrorism. Instead of funding terrorists, the money could go to reprogramming american society to allow only reasonable men and women to run their government. Ideas like Truth, Liberty, and Justice for all could be espoused. The idea of democracy could be taught. Imagine the possibilities! Joe ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Iran's Nuclear Program
Many Canadians have been wondering what will happen when the US sets it's sights on Canadian resources. As America already considers all of South America as in its (Sphere of influence) you don’t stand a snowballs chance in hell if America wants your oil it will take it. Just listen to Bushes speeches. America is going to take what it needs and sod everybody else. Blair will just keep backing him up as he's terrified of our nukes being turned off, we control them but America controls their guidance systems. I wonder why. Chris. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.10.15/80 - Release Date: 23/08/2005 ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Iran's Nuclear Program
Greetings, Finally, you mean Canadians are waking up. My parents pointed out these facts to us as children, 3 or 4 decades ago. The US has invited Canada to join with them 4 times, that I am aware of. The last time being when Canada rescued diplomats in the middle east. I do remember the 'Thank you, Canada' being broadcast by every American television station. My father squashed our good feelings by pointing out the gratitude by nations is short lived. It has been recognized by Canadians that were aware that Canadian soveriegnity would only last as long as the US wanted it to. On a bright note, there are lots of people in the US, that carry a US passport but were born in Canada that may be able to vote for sanity when it comes to how the US deals with Canada. [Assuming a fair election] The University of Alberta has alumni associations in both Dallas and Houston, so there must be a fair number of us here. Bright Blessings, Kim At 08:45 AM 8/24/2005, you wrote: We have relied on the umbrella of american might for a long time and the Canada - US border is the longest undefended border in the world. The illusion of the friendly giant has been shattered. It is cause for rising alarm amongst more than a few of my countrymen. Joe ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Iran's Nuclear Program
Garth Kim Travis wrote: Greetings, Finally, you mean Canadians are waking up. All you Canadians need to do is examine the behavior of the U.S. government with respect to free trade in softwood lumber to get an inkling of what the future portends. The NAFTA agreement contains provisions that require Canada to supply energy to the U.S., even at the expense of supplying power for its own citizens. robert luis rabello The Edge of Justice Adventure for Your Mind http://www.newadventure.ca Ranger Supercharger Project Page http://www.members.shaw.ca/rabello/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Iran's Nuclear Program
I know, I know..I just hope we won't have to kick their butts and burn their parliament again.after the last four times they tried to invade us you think they would have learned. Chris Lloyd wrote: Many Canadians have been wondering what will happen when the US sets it's sights on Canadian resources. As America already considers all of South America as in its (Sphere of influence) you don’t stand a snowballs chance in hell if America wants your oil it will take it. Just listen to Bushes speeches. America is going to take what it needs and sod everybody else. Blair will just keep backing him up as he's terrified of our nukes being turned off, we control them but America controls their guidance systems. I wonder why. Chris. ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Magnetic boots
ah yes, magnets once again -hold on to your wallet Wes Moore wrote: I received the following a few days ago. I suspect there may be folks on this list who would find this interesting. The source is from Anthony Craddock who organizes info for Dr Tom Bearden . the page that is linked at the bottom also has Tom Bearden’s website linked. Wes Try finding the original magnetic astronauts boots that were developed by NASA. The original boots were excellent. For the acceptance tests, an engineer clad as an astronaut walked across the bottom of a steel beam in a high bay research area, upside down against the pull of Earth's gravity. He /stepped/ as he walked, putting his foot down and then picking it up. There is no problem in finding magnets strong enough to hold the astronaut firmly in such an upside position. The problem with simple magnetic boots using such strong magnets is that, once the foot is planted, unless he is King Kong himself, the astronaut cannot pick up the foot again. However, the Radus boots completely solved that problem. If the permanent magnet fields are switched off uh, how do you switch off a permanent magnet? ans. you don't and everything following is therefore BS for that foot that the astronaut wishes to lift, he can lift it easily and take another step. Then if the fields are switched on again as he places his foot down, this switching of the fields allows him to walk in a manner resembling normal walking, though a little slower. To do that switching by normal battery and coils would be prohibitively bulky and heavy and awkward to say the least. With the Radus boots, the astronaut could pick up his foot by simply switching off the permanent magnetic fields easily. They switched on again when he placed the foot down. And he did not have to carry a huge battery around with him, to furnish enormous current to do that. Well, it doesn't take a genius to see that, when you can switch a permanent magnet's fields easily, and the magnet also has a built-in memory as did the Radus magnets, then with a little ingenuity in switching one could use such switchable magnets to produce a self-switching, self-powered permanent magnet motor. oooh, free energy The magnet, being a permanent dipole, is already a particular kind of free energy generator, since it continuously gates magnetic energy no such thing as magnetic energy directly from the vacuum due to its asymmetry in the energetic vacuum flux. From the energy barons' viewpoint, those Radus magnets and Radus boots had to go, and go quickly. And go they did. nonsense So NASA then developed the present shuffler kind of magnetic boots where the astronaut can't pull his boot loose from the surface, but must scoot his feet along in a sliding and painfully awkward fashion. That way, you see, no one can use the boot magnets which now are just rather ordinary permanent magnets, without memories and without switchable fields to make an overunity device or a self-powering permanent magnet engine. Tom Bearden Radus family members have now very kindly provided photos of the original boots, which can be seen at http://www.cheniere.org/misc/astroboots.htm -- Bob Allen http://ozarker.org/bob Science is what we have learned about how to keep from fooling ourselves — Richard Feynman ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] What is Bio-Oil ???
Hello, I just wanted to let you know that this power plant is being constructed as we speak. It is being installed in my town to power a hard wood flooring company. When it is running I will let you know. Aidan Dear ALL I recently come across a newspaper article in Canada where a company converted biomass to bio-oil through a process called Pyrolysis. Pyrolysis extracts oil from plant material by burning biomass in an oxygen free environment, and then cooling the resulting vapors until they condense into an oil form called Bio-Oil which can be used a renewable form of fuel. What is actually Bio-Oil ? Hydrocarbon? Thanks WH -- ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] What is Bio-Oil ???
Dear ALL I recently come across a newspaper article in Canada where a company converted biomass to bio-oil through a process called Pyrolysis. Pyrolysis extracts oil from plant material by burning biomass in an oxygen free environment, and then cooling the resulting vapors until they condense into an oil form called Bio-Oil which can be used a renewable form of fuel. What is actually Bio-Oil ? Hydrocarbon? Thanks WH The Fischer-Tropsch process, have a look at this: http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/msg53022.html [Biofuel] Re: thermal depolymerization With all archived messages, there are links to the whole thread at the end of the page. Best wishes Keith ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Iran's Nuclear Program
Yes too bad these 'deals' were worked out behind closed doors without any public discourse eh? NAFTA is a joke. It is a matter of national shame and embarrasment that we allowed that to happen. Why the hell we do not have a system of referendum on issues like the Swiss have I don't understand. We can have it whenever fascist Quebecistan raises the issue of national unity but not when it involves issues of real importance. However for the time being it looks like we are acting tough on the softwood issue. We will see. If it ends up going in favor of US interests there will be somewhat of a mutiny from the lumber industry here. As a side note, I was not a fan of the previous prime minister by any means but at least he showed some backbone in refusing to support G. Dubya's illegal invasion of Iraq. Fot that one decision he gained a lot of respect. There is one fact that always brings me a bit of peace. One only has to look to nature to see that whenever anything becomes too strong it means it is already decaying from within. This fact is elucidated so clearly in the text of the Tao Te Ching which is not just some phiosophical theory created in the minds of men but rather a documented record of what is observed to take place in natural cycles. Accordingly the overstrong regime that exists right now cannot escape being brought to it's knees. In fact it is the agent of it's own eventual demise. I'm sure I don't want to be around for that process though. joe robert luis rabello wrote: Garth Kim Travis wrote: Greetings, Finally, you mean Canadians are waking up. All you Canadians need to do is examine the behavior of the U.S. government with respect to "free trade" in softwood lumber to get an inkling of what the future portends. The NAFTA agreement contains provisions that require Canada to supply energy to the U.S., even at the expense of supplying power for its own citizens. robert luis rabello "The Edge of Justice" Adventure for Your Mind http://www.newadventure.ca Ranger Supercharger Project Page http://www.members.shaw.ca/rabello/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Iran's Nuclear Program
Joe Street wrote: Yes too bad these 'deals' were worked out behind closed doors without any public discourse eh? NAFTA is a joke. I remember having heated discussions about this with my Canadian father in law when I lived in California. NAFTA is a two edged sword whose economic benefits can't be dismissed out of hand. (I've seen prices for consumer goods equalize, or even drop slightly, since I've lived here.) However, some of its provisions would anger me if I were a Canadian. However for the time being it looks like we are acting tough on the softwood issue. We will see. If it ends up going in favor of US interests there will be somewhat of a mutiny from the lumber industry here. The trouble is, no ruling has EVER gone in favor of the U.S. with respect to softwood lumber, yet the countervailing duty remains. In fact, several months ago I heard that the money set aside by duty collection has already been paid to American lumber interests, which is likely a reason for U.S. intransigence in this matter. The timber industry in B.C. has become very lean as a result of the export duties. Should the tariffs ever be lifted, U.S. lumber companies will likely NOT be able to compete without subsidy. It's ironic that the very problem American lumber producers have complained about (that is, the alleged subsidy of the timber industry) not only occurs in the U.S. without question (Road building, for instance, is paid for by the National Forest Service in the U.S. and amounts to an industry subsidy.), but will most likely be necessary to preserve competition in the lumber market. There is one fact that always brings me a bit of peace. One only has to look to nature to see that whenever anything becomes too strong it means it is already decaying from within. This fact is elucidated so clearly in the text of the Tao Te Ching which is not just some phiosophical theory created in the minds of men but rather a documented record of what is observed to take place in natural cycles. We will go the way of every empire that went before us, but our demise will be swift, sudden and quite likely pull all the rest of you down with us. I know I sound a bit like Cassandra here, but we are the most powerful nation the world has ever known, and anyone who thinks we will not use that power in a desperate act of self preservation is either naive, or arrogant. Accordingly the overstrong regime that exists right now cannot escape being brought to it's knees. In fact it is the agent of it's own eventual demise. I'm sure I don't want to be around for that process though. I think you WILL be. robert luis rabello The Edge of Justice Adventure for Your Mind http://www.newadventure.ca Ranger Supercharger Project Page http://www.members.shaw.ca/rabello/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] What is Bio-Oil ???
bio oil is a complex mixture of hydrocarbons, and minor amounts of a lot of other stuff such as alcohols ethers, ketones, etc. The exact composition of the mixture varies as to the source and degradative conditions. Basically one catalyticly reforms carbon/hydrogen/oxygen in plant matter to mostly carbon/hydrogen in the product oil. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear ALL I recently come across a newspaper article in Canada where a company converted biomass to bio-oil through a process called Pyrolysis. Pyrolysis extracts oil from plant material by burning biomass in an oxygen free environment, and then cooling the resulting vapors until they condense into an oil form called Bio-Oil which can be used a renewable form of fuel. What is actually Bio-Oil ? Hydrocarbon? Thanks WH -- Bob Allen http://ozarker.org/bob Science is what we have learned about how to keep from fooling ourselves — Richard Feynman ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Iran's Nuclear Program
robert luis rabello wrote: The trouble is, no ruling has EVER gone in favor of the U.S. with respect to softwood lumber, Really? When was the last time you bought lumber in Canada? I have seen a dramatic decline in the quality of product retailed in this country. All the good lumber goes south and what is left is the warped twisted boards with more knots than you have ever seen. Tell me how is that in my interest? J ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Magnetic boots
I think you have it wrong, Mr Allen. Whether or not this is viable, Dr Tom Bearden is an accredited scientist with a reputation that stands on its own. In addition I think Joe Bedini has been able to demonstrate enough to show that anyone with the attitude you have shown is simply out of the flux. I think some of the info from Coral Castle probably demonstrates that it is our lack of comprehension that fosters your polarized attitude. Wes -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of bob allen Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2005 11:18 AM To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Magnetic boots ah yes, magnets once again -hold on to your wallet ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Magnetic boots
Why wouldnt you just switch your own -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joe Street Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2005 9:58 AM To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Magnetic boots Kewl dude! Ask them to send us one of them 'switchable permanent magnets' to play with so we can build a perpetual motion machine! ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Magnetic boots
Hey Wes, last time I checked the difference between randomized and synchronized electron spin involved energy. Try as I might I haven't found a way to violate the law of conservation of energy otherwise I would. But my offer still stands. I see you are posting from Canada as well so why don't you get your hands on one of these magical magnets and bring it down to the university and we'll see what's what. I've got Gauss meters here and lots of other instrumentation that will put an end to the discussion in short order. All anyone has to do is produce it. Man I sure hope you are right 'cuz I'll be the first to rip that nasty old diesel out of my golf and jam in a free energy motor. Just think too when I get home all I have to do is back that baby up to the wall and give 'er hell and since the wheels aren't turning the rotor windings will now become a generator and I can power my house and get off the grid. Hell I can sell some of that free energy to the city and turn a tidy profit. Is this the point where you are going to tell me that some evil government agents destroyed his labs and now nobody can figure out what the beleaguered genius had discovered? Joe Wes Moore wrote: Why wouldnt you just switch your own -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Joe Street Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2005 9:58 AM To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Magnetic boots Kewl dude! Ask them to send us one of them 'switchable permanent magnets' to play with so we can build a perpetual motion machine! ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] What is Bio-Oil ???
Can it be used as diesel substitute in cars? If not, what applications? Rgds WH ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] New Biodegradable Polymers
STORY LEAD: New Citric Acid-Based Polymers for Agricultural Applications ___ ARS News Service Agricultural Research Service, USDA Sharon Durham, (301) 504-1611, [EMAIL PROTECTED] August 24, 2005 --View this report online, plus any included photos or other images, at www.ars.usda.gov/is/pr ___ A biodiesel fuel byproduct called glycerol and an agricultural commodity called citric acid can be chemically combined to produce biodegradable polymers that could be used in produce packaging and other products, according to Agricultural Research Service scientists. Justin Barone, a chemist at the ARS Environmental Quality Laboratory in Beltsville, Md., made the discovery while studying processes for improving the effectiveness of insecticides that contain citric acid as an active ingredient. Citric acid washes away very quickly in the environment, limiting its effectiveness. Barone found that molecules containing hydrogen and oxygen--such as glycerol, sorbitol or polyethylene glycol--reacted with citric acid to produce polymers with citric acid groups in them. The materials formed are biodegradable polyesters. Further study showed that the viscosity of the material can range from the consistency of paint to a slow-to-dissolve, glasslike product, depending on how the chemical reaction takes place. The new biodegradable polymers may provide the biodiesel industry with a new use for glycerol, which is now disposed of after the biodiesel is made. In addition, citric acid is used in the food industry as a retardant to browning in cut fruits and vegetables. The new citric acid-based polyesters may prove useful as a packaging material. Studies are under way to determine whether the new polymers would work as well as pure citric acid in these applications. ARS is the U.S. Department of Agriculture's chief scientific research agency. ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] Repetitive Swing Method for Charcoal and Wood Gas Producing
http://www.metla.fi/iufro/iufro95abs/d5pap107.htm Repetitive Swing Method for Charcoal and Wood Gas Producing Kishimoto, Sadakichi, Akizuki, Katsufumi, Hirowaka, Tsuyoshi There is an worldwide upsurge of revaluation for forest biomass as an sustainable energy resource. Statistics says that we have eight million tons of wood waste annually in Japan. It partly derives from sawmill, but mainly from demolition and construction process. These waste are chipped and utilized as pulping material, reprocessed material (e.g. particle board) and alternative energy resource to half amount produced. The rest of half are burnt uselessly. Energy purpose is the dominant usage, but, the fatal problem appears when wood is burnt in the direct burning boiler system. The problem is plenty of clinker. Ash contains potassium oxide much, which lowers the fusing point of ash, that produces clinker, difficult to deal with. Wood contains many kinds of mineral at certain balance that accelerate the plant's growth, but modern agricultural land lacks it. In direct burning system, burnt at high temperature, minerals become clinker, insolubles, which can not assimilate to plants nor soil microorganism. Minerals are to be the treasure, but currently it's only useless waste. Under the background above, we have devised the continuous gasification system in Japan. That is a repetitive swinging method, basically a modified moving bed method. Normal moving bed method has a difficulty to blow in the necessary air for gasification at the fixed point, but in this R.S. method, we can blow in needed amount of air from the bottom. And the balance between produced wood gas and charcoal can be controlled by temperature operation. In Japan, charcoal is getting a new way of utilization, especially to organic farming as a soil amelioration material. When the distillation temperature is set at around 500°C, this system can play a big role against our society's needs for multi-use of charcoal and dry distilled wood gas. Key words: repetitive swing method, agricultural use of charcoal. Correspondence: Tsuyoshi Hirowaka, International Charcoal Cooperate Association, 2-9-4 Asano bldg.401, Kitaootsuka, Toshima-ku, Tokyo 170, Japan Telefax: +81-3-35767298 ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] Living Test for Mad Cow Disease
The Institute of Science in Society Science Society Sustainability http://www.i-sis.org.uk ISIS Press Release 22/08/05 ISIS Exclusive Living Test for Mad Cow Disease A new diagnostic test that claims to detect Mad Cow Disease in living animals before symptoms appear also raises questions on the cause of the disease mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Dr. Mae-Wan Ho Mad Cow Disease and variant CJD It has been 20 years since Mad Cow Disease (bovine spongiform encephalopathy, BSE) appeared in Britain, killing more than 180 000 cattle, and causing the mass slaughter of a further 5 million. The disease has jumped species to human beings, resulting in some 160 known cases worldwide of the fatal variant Creutzfeldt-Jakob Disease (vCJD); although the precise extent of the CJD epidemic is suspected to be 20 times worse than appears (see Box). The disease agent, according to the current establishment view, is a highly unusual misfolded protein, prion, which both causes and transmits the disease. Prion proteins are present in the brain tissues of all healthy animals in the correctly folded form. However, on being exposed to the misfolded form, the correctly folded normal protein becomes misfolded, causing it to aggregate into dense fibres, clogging up the cells and triggering a degenerative disease that turns the brain into a sponge. There has been little progress in diagnosis or treatment for either BSE or vCJD. The only available tests are those done post mortem on brain tissue from slaughtered animals, based on detecting the misfolded prion protein that's found after the disease has progressed to a late stage. This not only underestimates the cases of BSE, but can also allow infected cattle to pass into the human food chain. A tiny amount of misfolded prion protein may be sufficient to make a healthy animal's own correctly folded prion protein to misfold. A number of laboratories have been trying to develop a test that can detect BSE in live animals before the disease symptoms appear; nearly all based on improving the sensitivity of detecting prion proteins. Box A brief history of Mad Cow Disease Mad Cow Disease first appeared in Britain in the mid1980s, where it was officially diagnosed in 1986 as bovine spongiform encephalopathy (BSE), as it turns the brain into a sponge-like mass [1]. It killed over 180 000 cattle and devastated the British beef industry and farmers. Humans have contracted variant Creutzfeldt-Jakob Disease (vCJD), a disease most closely similar to BSE, by eating meat from infected animals. From Britain the epidemic spread to the rest of Europe infecting over 4 200 cattle in 19 countries by mid-2003. As the disease has jumped species barriers, infecting and killing humans, the European authorities have destroyed more than 5 million potentially infected cattle as a precautionary measure. Since 1996, cattle over 30 months old have been banned from entering the food chain, a measure that is thought to remove over 99 percent of infected cattle [2]. Nevertheless, infected cattle have appeared in Canada, Japan, Israel, Oman and the Falkland Islands; and in the United States at the end of 2003 [3]. By 2003, more than 150 people have contracted vCJD: 143 in the UK, 6 in France, 2 in Canada and one each in Ireland, Italy and the US [1]. (The figure for UK has increased to 157 at the end of July 2005, and cases of human contracting vCJD from blood transfusions have been discovered [4].) Variant CJD tends to strike young people, is invariably fatal and takes about 14 months to kill its victim. Classic CJD strikes mainly the elderly. Recent evidence suggests that BSE can cause both classic as well as variant CJD, which may explain the rising numbers of CJD cases in Europe, and the disturbing trend to younger CJD cases in the US. Several autopsy studies in the US suggest that 3 to 13% of patients diagnosed with Alzheimer's or dementia are actually CJD cases; thus, at least 120 000 CJD cases may go undetected and excluded from official statistics [5]. Similarly, a team of UK scientists found that 3 out of 12 674 stored appendix and tonsil samples showed evidence of infection, which gives an estimate of about 3 800 individuals in the UK who would test positive [6, 7]. Mad Cow Disease, CJD and related diseases - including chronic wasting disease spreading among the US deer and elk population - are associated with misfolded proteins called prions that aggregate to form dense tangled fibres in the brain cells, thereby killing them. Prions are highly resistant to heat, chemicals and radiation treatments, and cannot be inactivated with disinfection measures used to kill ordinary disease agents such as viruses and bacteria. The misfolded prion proteins are believed to be both the cause of BSE and the infectious agents transmitting the disease, and that feeding cattle with rendered remains of sheep affected with a related disease, scrapie, led to
Re: [Biofuel] Iran's Nuclear Program
robert luis rabello wrote: The trouble is, no ruling has EVER gone in favor of the U.S. with respect to softwood lumber, Really? When was the last time you bought lumber in Canada? I have seen a dramatic decline in the quality of product retailed in this country. All the good lumber goes south and what is left is the warped twisted boards with more knots than you have ever seen. Tell me how is that in my interest? J Trading with the 'schoolyard bully': Last week, the U.S. government reneged on that agreement, and its successor, the 1993 North American free-trade agreement, by declaring that it would simply ignore the unanimous ruling of the ultimate free trade tribunal -- a ruling that said the Americans had no right to impose tariffs on the import of Canadian softwood lumber. http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/ArticleNews/TPStory/LAC/2005082 0/NAFTA20/TPNational/Email http://snipurl.com/h656 ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] GMOs and Human Health
The Institute of Science in Society Science Society Sustainability http://www.i-sis.org.uk ISIS Press Release 16/08/05 GMOs and Human Health mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Dr. Mae-Wan Ho told the People's Health Assembly that GM is proving bad for health because it goes against the grain of the new genetics science A GMO or genetically modified organism is one whose natural genetic material has been modified by having synthetic genetic material inserted into it. That is how we have GM crops grown for food and feed, for fibre and for a range of pharmaceuticals and industrial products in the latest offering, if we don't manage to stop it. Maybe you have heard the mantra from certain scientists that GM food is perfectly safe because the technology is so very precise and wonderful and the regulation the strictest in the world; that GM is good for biodiversity, increases yield, reduces pesticide use, and so on. All of the claims have been falsified, with data collected by the US Department of Agriculture and by independent scientists . The World Health Organization has just issued a report, Modern food biotechnology, human health and development: an evidence-based study (23 June 2005) claiming that although there may be potential risks involved in the use of GMOs, the GM crops that are grown today are not likely to present health risks. Yet there has been a string of incidents indicating GM food and feed are far from safe. These include studies carried out by biotech companies producing the GM crops, which they have kept secret under confidential business information. Kidney and blood abnormalities in rats fed one of Monsanto's GM maize in Monsanto's secret dossier. Villagers in the south of the Philippines who suffered mysterious illnesses when another GM maize came into flower in a nearby field two years in a row. Antibodies to the Bt protein inserted into the GM maize were found in the villagers. A dozen cows that died after eating a third GM maize made by Syngenta, and others in the herd had to be slaughtered because of mysterious illnesses. Autopsies failed to be carried out, which is why Greenpeace and farmers are demonstrating in front of the Robert Koch Institute Senior scientist Arpad Pusztai and colleagues in Scotland found young rats fed GM potatoes ended up with damage in every organ system; the most dramatic being an increase in thickness of the stomach lining to twice that in controls. Scientists in Egypt found similar effects in mice fed GM potatoes with another gene. The US Food and Drug Administration had data dating back to early 1990s that rats fed GM tomatoes had developed small holes in their stomach. To cut a long story short, different species of GM food and feed crops with different genes had adversely affected several species of animals. You don't have to be a scientific genius to see that there may be something in the genetic engineering process itself that's harmful . So what's wrong with GMOs? First, new genes and combinations of genes made in the laboratory, which have never existed in billions of years of evolution, are being introduced into our food chain. Allergies and other toxicities come to mind. In fact, 22 out of 33 proteins incorporated into GM crops were found to have similarities to known allergens, and are therefore suspected allergens. The synthetic genetic material are introduced into the cells of organisms with invasive methods that are uncontrollable, unreliable and unpredictable, and far from precise. It ends up damaging the natural genetic material of the organism with many unpredictable, unintended effects, including gross abnormalities that you can see, and metabolic changes that may be toxic that you can't see. Many foreign synthetic genes are copies of those from bacteria and viruses that cause diseases. They also contain antibiotic resistance marker genes to help track the movements of the foreign gene inserts and select for cells that have taken up the foreign genes. Right from the beginning, in the mid1970s, geneticists themselves have worried that releasing those synthetic genetic material runs the risk of creating new viruses and bacteria that cause diseases, and spreading antibiotic resistance to make infections untreatable. As the result of the Asilomar Declaration, a moratorium was imposed. Unfortunately, the moratorium was short-lived, as geneticists were in a hurry for commercial exploitation of genetic engineering. The dangers arise because the genetic material persists long after the cells or organism is dead, and can be taken up by bacteria and viruses that are in all environments This process - called horizontal gene transfer and recombination - is the main route to creating dangerous pathogens. Genetic engineering is nothing if not greatly enhanced horizontal gene transfer and recombination, and nasty surprises have already been sprung. Researchers in Australia
Re: [Biofuel] Robertson / Chavez story on CNN
Best go to the web page, lots of hotlinks - url below. Pat Robertson Sourcewatch by Bob Burton There's never a quiet day at SourceWatch, our open-source encyclopedia of the people, organizations and issues shaping the public agenda. Some days, articles that have been patiently compiled by our volunteer writers over months, are suddenly in demand. A case in point is the article on the founder of the Christian Coalition of America, Pat Robertson, who proposed in a broadcast on his 700 Club program that covert American agents should assassinate Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez. We have the ability to take him out, and I think the time has come that we exercise that ability, Associated Press quoted Robertson stating. Over the last eighteen months a number of regular contributors have compiled a comprehensive listing of online news stories on Robertson spanning the last decade. Others have started profiles on the various organisations Robertson is involved in. http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Pat_Robertson Pat Robertson - SourceWatch Pat Robertson (Marion Gordon Robertson) founded the Christian Coalition of America in 1989 and headed the organization until his resignation in December 2002. Robertson is the founder and chairman of The Christian Broadcasting Network (CBN) Inc. -- described as a dedicated earth satellite station -- based in Virginia Beach, Virginia, from which he broadcasts and hosts the 700 Club program. Robertson is the founder of International Family Entertainment Inc., Regent University, of which he is president and chancellor, Operation Blessing International Relief and Development Corporation, American Center for Law and Justice, The Flying Hospital, Inc. and several other organizations and broadcast entities. [1][2] Table of contents [hide] 1 Biographical Data 2 Robertson Says Terrorism Is God's Punishment 3 Muslims are worse than Hitler 4 Prays for removal of Supreme Court justices 5 Robertson proposes Chavez be assassinated 6 Quotable quotes 7 Books 8 Related SourceWatch Resources 9 External Links 9.1 Biographical 9.2 TV/Radio Appearances 9.3 Websites 9.4 Quotes 9.5 Articles Commentary 9.5.1 1987-2000 9.5.2 2001-2003 9.5.3 2004 9.5.4 2005 ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] WalMart - was Re: lye
Hi Vince hi yall, all i ahve to say is at least the walmarts aren't unionized. ( doesn't make them better but ... ) Sure doesn't. Lots and lots about this, but the one below should do... Try this one too: http://www.alternet.org/story.html?StoryID=12962 How Wal-Mart is Remaking our World Jim Hightower, Hightower Lowdown April 26, 2002 Bullying people from your town to China And this: http://tompaine.com/feature2.cfm/ID/10226 The Wal-Mart Myth Jonathan Tasini is president of the Economic Future Group. ... The second nugget got far less attention, unless you're inclined to read the truly radical press: Business Week. In the April 12 issue, reporters Stanley Holmes and Wendy Zellner penned a terrific piece called, The Costco Way, with an even more provocative sub-title: Higher wages mean higher profits. But try telling Wall Street. The authors point out that Costco recently posted a 25 percent profit gain, as well as a 14 percent sales hike. Yet Wall Street punished Costco's stock, driving it down 4 percent. What gives? As the authors report: One problem for Wall Street is that Costco pays its workers much better than archrival Wal-Mart Stores Inc. does, and analysts worry that Costco's operating expenses could get out of hand. 'At Costco, it's better to be an employee or a customer than a shareholder,' says Deutsche Bank analyst Bill Dreher. And there it is in a nutshell. In today's economy (or, for that matter, yesterday's economy), whether a company treats its workers fairly and satisfies consumers does not matter to Wall Street. Stock analysts don't reward such a feat-preferring instead that a company conform to Wall Street standards by wringing out every cent from regular people's wallets. ... Or this: http://www.alternet.org/wiretap/24069/ The Wal-Mart Thought Police By Amy Schiller, Campus Progress. Posted August 16, 2005. The 'everyday low prices' superchain refuses to carry books and music that dare criticize conservative values. http://www.alternet.org/story.html?StoryID=16282 The Great Wal-Mart Wars By Ruth Rosen, San Francisco Chronicle June 30, 2003 Would you like a Wal-Mart supercenter store to move into your community? Think of the low prices and the convenience of one-stop shopping! You just park once and get whatever you need - groceries, drugs, plants, toys, dog food, even eyeglasses. Sounds great, doesn't it? So why have nearly 200 communities refused to allow such big-box stores to enter their lives? Do they know something we don't? To find out, I embedded myself in the Wal-Mart wars that have recently broken out in Contra Costa County. What I learned, in a nutshell, is that Wal-Mart's no-nunion, big-box stores drag down other workers' salaries, destroy downtown businesses, prevent smart-growth development and increase traffic congestion. What really surprised me though is that we, the taxpayers, end up subsidizing Wal-Mart stores by paying for the health and retirement needs of its workers. Wal-Mart has announced its intention to open 40 new supercenter stores - each the size of four football fields - in such fast-growing California suburban areas as Contra Costa County. But Contra Costa County has fought back. A year ago, Martinez prevented a traditional Wal-Mart store from expanding into a supercenter that could sell groceries. On June 3, the county Board of Supervisors voted to ban such supercenter stores from unincorporated areas of the county. In making its decision, the board cited a study done by the San Diego County Taxpayers Association (SDCTA), a nonprofit, nonpartisan organization. It found that an influx of big-box stores into San Diego would result in an annual decline in wages and benefits between $105 million and $221 million, and an increase of $9 million in public health costs. SDCTA also estimated that the region would lose pensions and retirement benefits valued between $89 million and $170 million per year and that even increased sales and property tax revenues would not cover the extra costs of necessary public services. Good jobs, good pay, and good benefits should be the goal of an economy, SDCTA concluded, and supercenters are not consistent with that objective. Wal-Mart, as is its custom, has launched a counterattack against Contra Costa's ordinance. The company parachuted in platoons of signature-gatherers who are stationed outside discount stores and asking shoppers to sign a petition that would place the board's decision on a ballot. If they collect 27, 000 legitimate signatures, Wal-Mart could reverse the board's ban. In response, a coalition of community groups have mobilized to defeat Wal- Mart's counterattack. But they face a formidable enemy. Over the last 40 years, Wal-Mart has grown into the nation's biggest employer and the world's largest retailer. Every two days, Wal-Mart opens another superstore. It has more people in uniform than the U.S. Army. Last year, it
[Biofuel] Wood-Based Energy Systems for Rural Industries and Village Applications
http://www.fao.org/documents/show_cdr.asp?url_file=/DOCREP/006/AD593E/ AD593E00.HTM FAO Document Repository Download: http://www.fao.org//DOCREP/006/AD593E/ad593e00.pdf Wood-Based Energy Systems for Rural Industries and Village Applications Wood-Based Energy Systems for Rural Industries and Village Applications RWEDP Report 31, May, 1997 Table of Contents The report describes the organization and the results of the national workshop organized by the Pakistan Council for Appropriate Technology. Issues such as the importance of small scale industries to the local economy through the provision of employment, the use of local raw materials, etc. were brought to the attention of national policy makers and planners. Emphasis was placed on the problems these small scale industries are facing e.g. using outdated processing technologies, a lack of skills both at the management and employee level, lack of access to working capital and organizations which can provide support in this, etc. During the workshop 9 papers were presented dealing with various issues including rural development in relation to small-scale industries, and problems associated with woodfuel and biomass energy supplies. Extensive discussions were held with regard to the production and supply strategies for fuelwood as well as policies with regard to the sustainable supply of biomass fuels. Conclusions and recommendations focus mainly on the need to improve the understanding of national policy makers of the importance of the rural based industries in the national economy and the need to improve the statistical database for this important sector. Table of Contents Foreword 1. Introduction 2. Outcomes List of Papers Presented List of Participants Programme of the Workshop http://144.16.93.203/energy/HC270799/RWEDP/rm34.html Wood-based Energy Systems for Rural Industries and Village Applications Download: http://144.16.93.203/energy/HC270799/RWEDP/acrobat/rm34.pdf Wood-based Energy Systems for Rural Industries and Village Applications National Workshop RWEDP Report No.34, 1997 Table of Contents The report describes the organization and the results of the national workshop organized by the Bangladesh Council for Scientific and Industrial Research. The workshop brought various issues to the attention of national policy makers and planners, e.g. the importance of small-scale industries to the local economy by providing employment and using local raw materials. Emphasis was also placed on the problems these small scale industries are facing e.g. using outdated processing technologies, limited skills both at the management and employee level, lack of access to suitable financing, etc. Abstracts of the nineteen papers presented during the workshop are presented in the report. These deal with various issues including rural development in relation to small scale industries, the status of various rural based small scale industries like brick making, gur (sugar) making, silk/sericulture, yarn twisting and dyeing, bakeries, potteries, ceramics, rice-parboiling, herbal medicines, etc. Extensive discussions were held on the production and supply strategies for fuelwood and on policies for the sustainable supply of biomass fuels) including agro-residues. These discussions resulted in the drawing up of a comprehensive set of conclusions and recommendations. The latter focus mainly on the need to improve the understanding of national policy makers of the importance of the rural based industries in the national economy and the need to provide adequate support to this important sector. Table of Contents Foreword 1. Introduction 2. Conclusions and Recommendations 3. Summaries of Papers Presented at the Workshop 4. List of Participants 5. Programme of the Workshop ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Titration
or, calibrate your new pH meter.Joe Street [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Try Phenolphthelein solution.Jeffrey Tan wrote:Dear all, Need help in this process. I have read about this procedure and followed it exactly as it said in the JTF. I even bought a digital pH meter to make my life easier but this proved otherwise. Putting the pH meter into oil the reading does not stop moving, it take minutes to accertain whether the pH meter has stopped at a correct reading. Thereafter, when we titrate it, the pH meter goes "wild" again. Is there any better way to read the pH. I think all my titration results is as "wild" as the pH meter's reading and that will make my process "wild" as well. I am trying to get the pH reading at 7 +_ 0.5 From what I read, this should not give us too much of a problem. Right? Any other suggestion on this titration process?Jeff_Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/___Biofuel mailing listBiofuel@sustainablelists.orghttp://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.orgBiofuel at Journey to Forever:http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.htmlSearch the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages):http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___Biofuel mailing listBiofuel@sustainablelists.orghttp://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.orgBiofuel at Journey to Forever:http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.htmlSearch the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages):http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ Yahoo! Mail for Mobile Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Check email on your mobile phone.___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Magnetic boots
Howdy Wes, Wes Moore wrote: I think you have it wrong, Mr Allen. you can call me bob, but if you want to use titles, try Professor Allen. Whether or not this is viable, there is a world of difference. Dr Tom Bearden is an accredited scientist with a reputation that stands on its own. oh really? He claims he has a Science PhD, but then he also claims that his PhD was awarded the Ph.D. for life experience and for life accomplishment (from Trinity College - Ed.)... http://www.cheniere.org/correspondence/011403.htm when I goggle Trinity College it turns up at least ten different Trinity Colleges, so it would be difficult to trace his credentials. Do you know which one? no wait, I found it (trinity college now defunct was a diploma mill http://web.archive.org/web/19970601203026/http://www.trinityuni.org/index.html he also is an adherent to cold fusion: http://www.pureenergysystems.com/news/2004/05/27/TomBeardenGrievesMalloveLoss/ he also does weather weapons: http://www.gaiaguys.net/weatherwar.htm also see how tom bearden also does chemistry, http://www.altcancer.com/vidgal.htm#beardon and anti gravity: http://antigravitypower.tripod.com/exper.html and on and on, so no, I don't really think his credentials are all that good. The main thing I see from his web site are outlandish claims and calls for money (vide supra) from: http://www.cheniere.org/ THE FUTURE Could be now—if development funding were made available. Look if this or any other free energy device worked why is money needed. Just hook up your working model to the grid, sell power, make money, , build bigger devices, make more money, etc. etc, etc. In a very short time one could rule the world. From coal miners to nuclear engineers and everything in between would be your slaves. In addition I think Joe Bedini has been able to demonstrate enough to show that anyone with the attitude you have shown is simply out of the flux. out of the flux? I've been out of the loop, out of my head, out of pocket, out to lunch, but never out the flux. I think some of the info from Coral Castle probably demonstrates that it is our lack of comprehension that fosters your polarized attitude. I don't think it is my problem of comprehension, but rather his problem of reality. Sorry to be so blunt, but free energy, magnetic energy, over unity, etc, leave me cold. See quote below from a real scientist. -- Bob Allen http://ozarker.org/bob Science is what we have learned about how to keep from fooling ourselves — Richard Feynman ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] Bush Administration Fails Consumers at the Pump
http://www.commondreams.org/news2005/0823-02.htm Bush Administration Fails Consumers at the Pump Statement of Anna Aurilio, U.S. PIRG Legislative Director WASHINGTON - August 23 - With oil prices reaching record levels, the Bush Administration has once again failed to protect American consumers from skyrocketing prices at the pump. Instead of harnessing America's technological know-how to require light trucks and autos to meet a 40 mile per gallon (mpg) average standard, the Administration has proposed a pathetically weak increase in light truck miles per gallon standards and has given automakers an increased opportunity to game the system by increasing the size of their SUVs and other light trucks. Two weeks ago, President Bush signed an energy bill that handed Big Oil a taxpayer-funded gift of $4 billion in new subsidies. Today, the Bush Administration has told the Big Three automakers that they're virtually off the hook when it comes to delivering light trucks that will go further on a gallon of gasoline. Once again, American consumers will see no relief at the pump as this Administration continues to side with Big Oil and the Big Three automakers. U.S. PIRG's report America Idles: President Bush's Inaction Costs Americans $5 Billion at the Pump in 2005 showed that American consumers will already spend $5 billion more at the gas pump than they should have to because of shortsighted automobile fuel economy policies. When the Bush Administration first proposed changing the structure of the fuel economy standards for light trucks, 4,500 PIRG members sent comments asking that the Administration increase fuel economy standards to 40 mpg for cars and light trucks, and not allow loopholes that would help automakers game the system. Today's announcement ignores thousands of public comments - instead allowing Detroit to continue building gas guzzling light trucks. ### ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] Climate change sceptics bet $10,000 on cooler world
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/story/0,3604,1552092,00.html Climate change sceptics bet $10,000 on cooler world Russian pair challenge UK expert over global warming David Adam, science correspondent Friday August 19, 2005 The Guardian Two climate change sceptics, who believe the dangers of global warming are overstated, have put their money where their mouth is and bet $10,000 that the planet will cool over the next decade. The Russian solar physicists Galina Mashnich and Vladimir Bashkirtsev have agreed the wager with a British climate expert, James Annan. The pair, based in Irkutsk, at the Institute of Solar-Terrestrial Physics, believe that global temperatures are driven more by changes in the sun's activity than by the emission of greenhouse gases. They say the Earth warms and cools in response to changes in the number and size of sunspots. Most mainstream scientists dismiss the idea, but as the sun is expected to enter a less active phase over the next few decades the Russian duo are confident they will see a drop in global temperatures. Dr Annan, who works on the Japanese Earth Simulator supercomputer, in Yokohama, said: There isn't much money in climate science and I'm still looking for that gold watch at retirement. A pay-off would be a nice top-up to my pension. To decide who wins the bet, the scientists have agreed to compare the average global surface temperature recorded by a US climate centre between 1998 and 2003, with temperatures they will record between 2012 and 2017. If the temperature drops Dr Annan will stump up the $10,000 (now equivalent to about £5,800) in 2018. If the Earth continues to warm, the money will go the other way. The bet is the latest in an increasingly popular field of scientific wagers, and comes after a string of climate change sceptics have refused challenges to back their controversial ideas with cash. Dr Annan first challenged Richard Lindzen, a meteorologist at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology who is dubious about the extent of human activity influencing the climate. Professor Lindzen had been willing to bet that global temperatures would drop over the next 20 years. No bet was agreed on that; Dr Annan said Prof Lindzen wanted odds of 50-1 against falling temperatures, so would win $10,000 if the Earth cooled but pay out only £200 if it warmed. Seven other prominent climate change sceptics also failed to agree betting terms. In May, during BBC Radio 4's Today programme, the environmental activist and Guardian columnist George Monbiot challenged Myron Ebell, a climate sceptic at the Competitive Enterprise Institute, in Washington DC, to a £5,000 bet. Mr Ebell declined, saying he had four children to put through university and did not want to take risks. Most climate change sceptics dispute the findings of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change which suggest that human activity will drive global temperatures up by between 1.4C and 5.8C by the end of the century. Others, such as the Danish economist Bjorn Lomborg, argue that, although global warming is real, there is little we can do to prevent it and that we would be better off trying to adapt to living in an altered climate. Dr Annan said bets like the one he made with the Russian sceptics are one way to confront the ideas. He also suggests setting up a financial-style futures market to allow those with critical stakes in the outcome of climate change to gamble on predictions and hedge against future risk. Betting on sea level rise would have a very real relevance to Pacific islanders, he said. By betting on rapid sea-level rise, they would either be able to stay in their homes at the cost of losing the bet if sea level rise was slow, or would win the bet and have money to pay for sea defences or relocation if sea level rise was rapid. Similar agricultural commodity markets already allow farmers to hedge against bad weather that ruins harvests. ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] Free Speech: Going, Going ...
http://www.alternet.org/story/24293/ Free Speech: Going, Going ... By Molly Ivins, AlterNet. Posted August 19, 2005. Corporations' efforts to curb free speech through lawsuits are unfortunately succeeding. Eternal vigilance is the price of ... um, well, guess we can't say that anymore. We might get sued. Mostly when we think of threats to free speech, it's government actions or laws we have in mind -- the usual bizarre stuff like veggie libel laws or attempts to keep government actions or meetings secret from the public. Sometimes you get a political case, like then-Gov. George W. Bush's effort to stop a Bush-parody site on the Internet. The parody, run by a 29-year-old computer programmer in Boston named Zack Exley, annoyed Bush so much that he called Exley a garbageman and said, There ought to be limits to freedom. (That's not a parody -- he actually said that.) Bush's lawyers warned Exley that he faced a lawsuit. Then they filed a complaint with the Federal Elections Commission demanding that Exley be forced to register his parody site with the FEC and have it regulated as a political committee. This fits in with the four instances in which faculty members at the Bush School of Government and Public Service in our fair state were reprimanded at the behest of Bush associates for saying less-than-glowing things about our then-governor. But this is petty stuff compared to corporate efforts to curb free speech. SLAPP suits (for strategic lawsuits against public participation) are a serious menace to free speech. The latest example is a real prize: The Consumers Union, publisher of Consumer Reports, has already spent $10 million defending itself against a lawsuit filed by Isuzu Motors Ltd. because, eight years earlier, Consumer Reports rated the Isuzu Trooper not acceptable for safety reasons. And the case has not yet reached trial. And that is the real menace of SLAPP suits. It's not that corporations win them, but that they cost critics so much money that the critics are silenced -- and so is everyone else who even thinks about raising some question about a corporate product or practice. Isuzu claims that CU's reports are not scientific or credible, but the company's internal memos state that the lawsuit is a PR tool and when attacked, CU will probably shut up. According to a study by two University of Denver law professors, Americans by the thousands are being sued, simply for exercising the right to speak out on public issues, such as health and safety. New York Supreme Court Judge J. Nicholas Cobella told PR Watch in Madison, Wis.: The longer the litigation can be stretched out ... the closer the SLAPP filer moves to success. Those who lack the financial resources and emotional stamina to play out the 'game' face the difficult choice of defaulting despite meritorious defenses or being brought to their knees to settle. ... Short of a gun to the head, a greater threat to First Amendment expression can scarcely be imagined. PR Watch also quoted George Pring and Penelope Canan, authors of the 1996 book SLAPPs: Getting Sued for Speaking Out. Initially, we saw such suits as attacks on traditional 'free speech' and regarded them as just 'intimidation lawsuits,' the two authors say. As we studied them further, an even more significant linkage emerged: The defendants had been speaking out in government hearings, to government officials or about government actions. ... This was not just free speech under attack. It was that other and older and even more central part of our Constitution: the right to petition government for redress of grievances, the 'Petition Clause' of the First Amendment. Some examples of SLAPP suits from PR Watch: * In Las Vegas, a local doctor was sued for his allegation that a city hospital violated the state's cost-containment law. * In Baltimore, members of a community group faced a $252 million lawsuit after circulating a letter questioning the property-buying practices of a local housing developer. * In West Virginia, an environmental activist was sued for $200,000 for criticizing a coal-mining company for activities that were poisoning a local river. * In Pennsylvania, a farmer was sued after testifying to his township supervisors that a low-flying helicopter owned by a local landfill operator caused a stampede that killed several of his cows. * In Washington state, a homeowner found that she couldn't get a mortgage because her real-estate company had failed to pay taxes owed on her house. She uncovered hundreds of similar cases, and the company was forced to pay hundreds of thousands of dollars in back taxes. In retaliation, it sued the woman for slander and dragged her through six years of legal harassment before a jury found her innocent. * In Missouri, a high-school English teacher was sued for $1 million after complaining to a weekly newspaper that an incinerator burning hospital waste was a health
Re: [Biofuel] Q. about Commerce in Somolia [was] US shuts down Somalia internet
Hello Mike My original post was out of date and didn't include my intentions. I apologize for rushing and not communicating as well as I should have. It was supposed to address questions I have about the determination of commercial entities to appear in the most unlikely places. I'd like to know more about how that happens, who or what those entities serve (especially if it interacts with other countries) and how it effects Somalia, a country where (to my knowledge) there is no established/recognized government. Ask the questions Mike, spell it out. Best Keith This all seem to be impossible. I find it very interesting because it seems to be the result of a hybrid society, made from elements of anarchy and capitalism. Maybe I'm by myself on this one. If so, that would be OK. I'll just let it go. Mike ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] Darfur as a Resource War
http://www.alternet.org/story/24471/ Darfur as a Resource War By David Morse, Tomdispatch.com. Posted August 24, 2005. Africa -- whose cultures and landscapes were torn apart by European colonial powers seeking slaves, ivory and jewels -- is now being devastated by a 21st century quest for oil. A war of the future is being waged right now in the sprawling desert region of northeastern Africa known as Sudan. The weapons themselves are not futuristic. None of the ray-guns, force-fields, or robotic storm troopers that are the stuff of science fiction; nor, for that matter, the satellite-guided Predator drones or other high-tech weapon systems at the cutting edge of today's arsenal. No, this war is being fought with Kalashnikovs, clubs and knives. In the western region of Sudan known as Darfur, the preferred tactics are burning and pillaging, castration and rape -- carried out by Arab militias riding on camels and horses. The most sophisticated technologies deployed are, on the one hand, the helicopters used by the Sudanese government to support the militias when they attack black African villages, and on the other hand, quite a different weapon: the seismographs used by foreign oil companies to map oil deposits hundreds of feet below the surface. This is what makes it a war of the future: not the slick PowerPoint presentations you can imagine in boardrooms in Dallas and Beijing showing proven reserves in one color, estimated reserves in another, vast subterranean puddles that stretch west into Chad, and south to Nigeria and Uganda; not the technology; just the simple fact of the oil. This is a resource war, fought by surrogates, involving great powers whose economies are predicated on growth, contending for a finite pool of resources. It is a war straight out of the pages of Michael Klare's book, Blood and Oil; and it would be a glaring example of the consequences of our addiction to oil, if it were not also an invisible war. Invisible? Invisible because it is happening in Africa. Invisible because our mainstream media are subsidized by the petroleum industry. Think of all the car ads you see on television, in newspapers and magazines. Think of the narcissism implicit in our automobile culture, our suburban sprawl, our obsessive focus on the rich and famous, the giddy assumption that all this can continue indefinitely when we know it can't -- and you see why Darfur slips into darkness. And Darfur is only the tip of the sprawling, scarred state known as Sudan. Nicholas Kristof pointed out in a New York Times column that ABC News had a total of 18 minutes of Darfur coverage in its nightly newscasts all last year, and that was to the credit of Peter Jennings; NBC had only 5 minutes, CBS only 3 minutes. This is, of course, a micro-fraction of the time devoted to Michael Jackson. Why is it, I wonder, that when a genocide takes place in Africa, our attention is always riveted on some black American miscreant superstar? During the genocide in Rwanda ten years ago, when 800,000 Tutsis were slaughtered in 100 days, it was the trial of O.J. Simpson that had our attention. Yes, racism enters into our refusal to even try to understand Africa, let alone value African lives. And yes, surely we're witnessing the kind of denial that Samantha Power documents in A Problem from Hell: America and the Age of Genocide; the sheer difficulty we have acknowledging genocide. Once we acknowledge it, she observes, we pay lip-service to humanitarian ideals, but stand idly by. And yes, turmoil in Africa may evoke our experience in Somalia, with its graphic images of American soldiers being dragged through the streets by their heels. But all of this is trumped, I believe, by something just as deep: an unwritten conspiracy of silence that prevents the media from making the connections that would threaten our petroleum-dependent lifestyle, that would lead us to acknowledge the fact that the industrial world's addiction to oil is laying waste to Africa. When Darfur does occasionally make the news -- photographs of burned villages, charred corpses, malnourished children -- it is presented without context. In truth, Darfur is part of a broader oil-driven crisis in northern Africa. An estimated 300 to 400 Darfurians are dying every day. Yet the message from our media is that we Americans are helpless to prevent this humanitarian tragedy, even as we gas up our SUVs with these people's lives. Even Kristof -- whose efforts as a mainstream journalist to keep Darfur in the spotlight are worthy of a Pulitzer -- fails to make the connection to oil; and yet oil was the driving force behind Sudan's civil war. Oil is driving the genocide in Darfur. Oil drives the Bush administration's policy toward Sudan and the rest of Africa. And oil is likely to topple Sudan and its neighbors into chaos. The Context for Genocide I will support these assertions with fact. But first, let's
Re: [Biofuel] Iran's Nuclear Program
What number do you consider to be the handful ? Greg H. - Original Message - From: Joe Street [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2005 7:45 Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Iran's Nuclear Program snip Our military is laughable -our pilots litterally have to take turns flying the handfull of aging f-18's in the air force. ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] Least Church-Going Rich Countries Give Most
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines05/0823-03.htm Published on Tuesday, August 23, 2005 by Inter Press Service Least Church-Going Rich Countries Give Most By Jim Lobe WASHINGTON - Nations where fewer people attend church tend to be more generous in their support for development in poor countries than those where church attendance is much greater, according to the third annual edition of the Commitment to Development Index (CDI), published this week in Foreign Policy magazine. The US Treasury last year imposed nearly two billion dollars in tariffs on imports from the four countries that were most affected by the tsunami -- India, Indonesia, Sri Lanka, and Thailand -- twice the 900 million dollars in relief aid approved by the U.S. Congress for the same countries last May. The Index, a joint project of Washington-based Foreign Policy and the Center for Global Development (CGD), found that Denmark, the Netherlands, Sweden, Australia, and Norway retained their top rankings among wealthy countries for their helpfulness to poor countries from last year. Italy, Ireland, Greece and Japan were the least helpful of the 21 countries ranked by the Index. The Index also noted that both the 12 billion dollars in private and public aid pledged by wealthy countries and their citizens for victims of last December's devastating tsunami and the debt relief deal announced earlier this summer for some of the world's poorest countries contributed to improved performance by most donors. At the same time, it stressed that both steps were actually quite limited in their impact when other factors, such as trade barriers, that also make up the complexity of interaction between rich and poor countries are taken into consideration. It noted, for example, that the U.S. Treasury last year imposed nearly two billion dollars in tariffs on imports from the four countries that were most affected by the tsunami -- India, Indonesia, Sri Lanka, and Thailand -- twice the 900 million dollars in relief aid approved by the U.S. Congress for the same countries last May. If rich countries really want to commit themselves to improving the lives of citizens in tsunami-affected nations, they should end these taxes and other protectionist barriers as part of the current Doha Round of international trade negotiations, according to a Foreign Policy comment that noted the single-most far-reaching improvement in this year's Index derived from the abolition last Jan. 1 of quotas on textile imports by the U.S., Canada and the European Union (EU). The Index assesses the performance over recent years of industrialized countries according to seven criteria -- public and private aid flows, trade, investment, migration, environment, security and peacekeeping, and technology -- that have a major impact on the welfare of poor countries. Scores for each criterion are then added up for each country to determine its ranking. In addition, multiple factors may be used to determine the score within any given category. For the aid category, for example, Index analysts considered not only donors' total official development assistance (ODA) as a percentage of their gross domestic product (GDP), but also how much of their ODA was tied to the purchase of goods or services from donor nations, and how much they received in debt repayments, as well as private or charitable giving. While the United States was the most generous in terms of its private giving -- citizens gave an average of six cents a day to private charities that financed overseas aid -- U.S. ODA averaged only 15 cents per day per person, bringing the total to 21 cents/day/person. By contrast, Denmark, the leading aid-giver, spent an average of 90 cents/day/person, 89 cents of which came from the government and only one cent from private sources. In aid terms Denmark, Norway, Sweden, and the Netherlands led the other 17 donor countries by a wide margin. The worst performer was Japan, followed by Italy, the United States, New Zealand, and Australia in that order. With the exception of Japan, the worst performers on aid were the best performers on trade, according to the Index. New Zealand was found to have the most open market to developing country goods. It was followed by Australia, Canada, and the United States. Of the EU countries, Italy received the highest ranking. Japan, on the other hand, had the most closed market, followed by Norway and Switzerland, according to the Index. On investment policies -- both those that are designed to facilitate investment flows to poor countries and ensure that they promote development, top-ranking countries included Britain, Canada, Italy, the Netherlands, Germany and the U.S., in that order, while the worst performers were Ireland, Austria, New Zealand, and Greece. On migration, which assessed the net inflow of people from poor countries to wealthy ones, the aid provided by host governments to
Re: [Biofuel] Iran's Nuclear Program
From a private forester (in the US) point of view I tend to agree. Really? When was the last time you bought lumber in Canada? I have seen a dramatic decline in the quality of product retailed in this country. All the good lumber goes south and what is left is the warped twisted boards with more knots than you have ever seen. Tell me how is that in my interest? J The US saves what is left of our timber now that NAFTA opened the border between Canada and the US. Everything I have read says the US timber industry is all but defunct and has been very busy harvesting Canada's trees. This is a bad situation and I wish there was something the American forester could do about it. Timber is a renewable resource unlike petroleum. Unfortunately big business exploits all resources about the same. Use it up, wear out your welcome and move on. Maybe when US timber industry gets done raping the forests in Canada the trees here will have grown back. It is renewable, still we need to practice more conservation in the US. It is rude to take from our neighbor and not even give them fair value for their product. Brian Rodgers ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Iran's Nuclear Program
Keith: You da man! Thanks for posting that. It's the same old story of course; the US is perfectly willing to play by the rules, codes, agreements, laws so long as it meets their needs, otherwise they are quite willing to just say so what and do what they want. Maybe they WILL murder Chavez, after all, if you are ok with breaking the rules does it matter if it is your own rules or anybody elses? Well let's see what their farmers say when we levy a tariff on their 100 billion dollar a year corn exports.. Joe Keith Addison wrote: robert luis rabello wrote: The trouble is, no ruling has EVER gone in favor of the U.S. with respect to softwood lumber, Really? When was the last time you bought lumber in Canada? I have seen a dramatic decline in the quality of product retailed in this country. All the good lumber goes south and what is left is the warped twisted boards with more knots than you have ever seen. Tell me how is that in my interest? J Trading with the 'schoolyard bully': Last week, the U.S. government reneged on that agreement, and its successor, the 1993 North American free-trade agreement, by declaring that it would simply ignore the unanimous ruling of the ultimate free trade tribunal -- a ruling that said the Americans had no right to impose tariffs on the import of Canadian softwood lumber. http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/ArticleNews/TPStory/LAC/2005082 0/NAFTA20/TPNational/Email http://snipurl.com/h656 ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Free Speech: Going, Going ...
Keith Addison wrote: Sometimes you get a political case, like then-Gov. George W. Bush's effort to stop a Bush-parody site on the Internet. The parody, run by a 29-year-old computer programmer in Boston named Zack Exley, annoyed Bush so much that he called Exley a garbageman and said, There ought to be limits to freedom. (That's not a parody -- he actually Check out their site at www.theyesmen.org and watch thier excellent movie available at non mainstream video rental outlets. Also for some outrageous political protest songs featuring the voice of G.dubya himself try www.thepartyparty.com Joe ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Darfur as a Resource War
Keith Addison wrote: Invisible? Invisible because it is happening in Africa. Invisible because our mainstream media are subsidized by the petroleum industry. Think of all the car ads you see on television, in newspapers and magazines. Think of the narcissism implicit in our automobile culture, our suburban sprawl, our obsessive focus on the rich and famous, the giddy assumption that all this can continue indefinitely when we know it can't -- and you see why Darfur slips into darkness. And Darfur is only the tip of the sprawling, scarred state known as Sudan. Nicholas Kristof pointed out in a New York Times column that ABC News had a total of 18 minutes of Darfur coverage in its nightly newscasts all last year, and that was to the credit of Peter Jennings; NBC had only 5 minutes, CBS only 3 minutes. This is, of course, a micro-fraction of the time devoted to Michael Jackson. Why is it, I wonder, that when a genocide takes place in Africa, our attention is always riveted on some black American miscreant superstar? During the genocide in Rwanda ten years ago, when 800,000 Tutsis were slaughtered in 100 days, it was the trial of O.J. Simpson that had our attention. Same old story. It is not newsworthy because of media filters. Well explained in that notorious bad guy Noam Chomsky's book Manufacturing Consent. Which should be required reading for every american. ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Free Speech: Going, Going ...
Free Speech: Going, Going ... By Molly Ivins, AlterNet. Posted August 19, 2005. snip Molly said: Sometimes you get a political case, like then-Gov. George W. Bush's effort to stop a Bush-parody site on the Internet. The parody, run by a 29-year-old computer programmer in Boston named Zack Exley, annoyed Bush so much that he called Exley a garbageman and said, There ought to be limits to freedom. (That's not a parody -- he actually said that.) Bush's lawyers warned Exley that he faced a lawsuit. Then they filed a complaint with the Federal Elections Commission demanding that Exley be forced to register his parody site with the FEC and have it regulated as a political committee. The site she refers to is: http://gwbush.com/ Now the site is inactive but has a history of articles about it. They are asking for someone to sign up to keep it going. There was one point where a hacker transferred people who were on it to the official georgewbush.com site when flippingto a new page. It looked just like the parody site but had only positive articles. Now it says: Sorry folks, but everyone who's worked on this imfamous parody site over the years is now too busy...eh hem...doing serious things. VERY serious. Yes, very very serious. Sign up and we'll let you know as soon as GWBush.com is back. We will never give away or sell your email address. name. email. country. zip. Maybe YOU have what it takes to run GWBush.com! -- if so, check this box and sign up below: Submit Learn your GWBush.com history here: http://www.gwbush.com/press/ Check out the GWBush.com forum here: http://www.gwbush.com/forum/ (This site is dead) ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] In the Garden of Armageddon
http://www.motherjones.com/news/feature/2005/09/armageddon.html In the Garden of Armageddon News: They were Iraq's only real WMDs. The U.S. refused to secure them. Now Saddam's nuclear and bioweapons scientists are dispersed and more dangerous than ever. By Kurt Pitzer Illustration: Tomer Hanuka August 21, 2005 I MET THE MASTERMIND of Saddam Hussein's former nuclear centrifuge program outside the Palestine Hotel in Baghdad a few days after U.S. troops took over the city in 2003. Despite the midday heat he was dressed in a sport coat and tie, which made him look incongruous amid a scruffy crowd of protesters gathered to shout slogans at the U.S. Marines guarding the hotel. He said his name was Dr. Mahdi Obeidi, and he showed me a printout of a prewar Washington Post story in which he was named as one of the Iraqi weapons scientists whom the U.S. government had very much wanted to interview. His eyes darted nervously back and forth between the protesters and the tense-looking Marines inside the cordon of concertina wire. Minutes earlier he had approached a photographer friend of mine on the street, saying he wanted to reach out to Washington with some important information about Saddam's nuclear program. It was a desperate move. He had tried contacting U.S. troops, but they had rebuffed him and threatened him with arrest if he showed up again. Now he wanted to know if I could use my satellite phone to help him. At first I didn't know whether to believe him. But that night, at his urging, I dialed the Washington number of David Albright, a former American member of the United Nations weapons inspections team in Iraq. When I explained who had given me his name, the line went silent for a moment. You are actually talking to Obeidi? Albright finally asked. Where is he? What did he say? Albright had met Obeidi in Iraq in the 1990s, when the U.N. inspectors were dismantling Saddam's WMD programs. Saddam had kept Obeidi's identity secret longer than that of any other scientist, Albright said. If anyone could say for sure what had happened to Iraq's nuclear program, it was him. The next day we dialed Albright from Obeidi's walled garden, and the two former adversaries exchanged a long series of pleasantries, exclaiming about how many years had passed since they'd last spoken and asking after each other's health. Then Obeidi repeated to Albright what he had told me -- that the Iraqi nuclear program had been dead since the start of U.N. weapons inspections in 1991. He spoke slowly, choosing his words with caution. David, there are some things the inspectors never found, he said. I am speaking of some important materials and documents. But I am afraid of saying more until I can be sure of my safety. At the end of the conversation, Albright promised to bring the case to the attention of the U.S. government and intelligence community. He cautioned us to be patient -- the Bush administration, he noted, didn't seem to have much of a plan for dealing with Saddam's WMD scientists. So we waited. A dapper 59-year-old, Obeidi arrived every day to greet me wearing an elegant abiyaa robe. When he felt especially nervous, we met in clandestine locations: by lamplight at my translator's home or in the courtyard of an Iraqi acquaintance. At other times, we sat on plastic lawn chairs in his garden, trying to figure out how he could avoid arrest by U.S. troops, as his wife and daughters served us cookies and tea. Every now and again, he would drop hints about the secrets he wanted to reveal. Then one day, he gestured toward a spot in the garden. Buried under the lotus tree next to his rosebushes a few feet from where we sat, he said, was the core of Saddam's nuclear quest: blueprints and prototype pieces for building centrifuges to enrich uranium to bomb grade. Twelve years earlier, he had buried them on orders from Saddam's son Qusay -- presumably, he said, to use them to restart a bomb program someday. Obeidi dug up the cache a few days later. When he showed me the four prototypes, his hands shook. The machine parts looked alien, like pieces of a futuristic motorcycle, most of them small enough to fit inside a briefcase. He explained that these components and the three-foot-high stack of diagrams were still immensely valuable -- and immensely dangerous. They represented the core knowledge it would take to jump-start a covert bomb program, anywhere in the world. This was why Obeidi was so anxious. On any given day he might be arrested by U.S. forces who would consider him a bad guy, or killed by Saddam loyalists who would see him as a collaborator, or kidnapped by some other country interested in what he knew. The decision to come forward had been a hard one. The news from Albright over the satellite phone was discouraging. U.S. intelligence on the ground was hopelessly disorganized, and there was no guarantee that American troops wouldn't imprison
Re: [Biofuel] Iran's Nuclear Program
I admit I don't know the exact number of aircraft in readiness status, who does? They do some funky stuff that the americans are embarrased and envious they didn't think of themselves like painting a mock canopy on the underbelly which fakes out the enemy and confuses the hell out of americans who can't decide which way they are turning in combat so maybe that counts as having two planes for every one?? They are still hanging on to a bunch of ancient junk as well like the sea king, but I do know that Canadian pilots take a tour flying a desk simply because there aren't enough planes to go around. In comparison the US pilots have their names painted beside the canopy on 'their' machine. What term would you use when comparing the number of servicable Canadian fighter aircraft to the number in the US arsenal? They've got a ferkin desert full of almost servicable ones in reserve as well down in Tucson I've seen them. Sorry if I've offended any Canadians, I know our military is proud my father was air force and I also know that Canadian pilots regularly out 'score' americans in training exercises but are you going to tell me we have any chance of even bluffing our way through a conflict with the US? Get real. J Greg and April wrote: What number do you consider to be " the handful "? Greg H. - Original Message - From: "Joe Street" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2005 7:45 Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Iran's Nuclear Program snip Our military is laughable -our pilots litterally have to take turns flying the handfull of aging f-18's in the air force. ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Magnetic boots
ah yes, magnets once again -hold on to your wallet Funny things magnets, I did some work with them back in the 60s, they do seem to contain far more energy than they should. Although energy is probably not the right word. Use electro magnets to hold 100 Kg in the air and you can see the energy being used by the current flow, now how do you calculate the energy being used with permanent magnets doing the same job. There is no problem in turning off a permanent magnet, it can be done electronically or mechanically.Chris. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.10.15/80 - Release Date: 23/08/2005 ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Iran's Nuclear Program
Unfortunately we are no longer part of the most powerful empire on earth. We will have to do something smarter than fight a war. Doug Woodard St. Catharines, Ontario, Canada On Wed, 24 Aug 2005, Joe Street wrote: I admit I don't know the exact number of aircraft in readiness status, who does? They do some funky stuff that the americans are embarrased and envious they didn't think of themselves like painting a mock canopy on the underbelly which fakes out the enemy and confuses the hell out of americans who can't decide which way they are turning in combat so maybe that counts as having two planes for every one?? They are still hanging on to a bunch of ancient junk as well like the sea king, but I do know that Canadian pilots take a tour flying a desk simply because there aren't enough planes to go around. In comparison the US pilots have their names painted beside the canopy on 'their' machine. What term would you use when comparing the number of servicable Canadian fighter aircraft to the number in the US arsenal? They've got a ferkin desert full of almost servicable ones in reserve as well down in Tucson I've seen them. Sorry if I've offended any Canadians, I know our military is proud my father was air force and I also know that Canadian pilots regularly out 'score' americans in training exercises but are you going to tell me we have any chance of even bluffing our way through a conflict with the US? Get real. J ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Iran's Nuclear Program
I referenced this in an earlier post but, I think it's relevent in this thread. Mike _ "In 1993, the well-regarded military historian John Keegan published a book "The History of War" which gives a magisterial survey of this topic. In it he describes and analyses the development of war from the Stone Age onwards. But this is not just history, rather it is history with a message, and the message is, that: war is not a worthwhile instrument of national policy" more: http://www.clausewitz.com/CWZHOME/Keegan/ByrneArt.htm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Unfortunately we are no longer part of the most powerful empire on earth.We will have to do something smarter than fight a war.Doug WoodardSt. Catharines, Ontario, Canada___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Q. about Commerce in Somolia [was] US shuts down Somalia internet
OK...Somalia. ...aplace where no industrialized country has recognized a coherent government in 13 years and where these countries usually have no hesitation in calling it "anarchy". I don't totally disagree. What makes Somalia so interesting (IMO) is that they've managed to form a fiefdom whereby protection comes from the tribal elders andso called "warlords" and skirmishes between tribes happen regularly as a way of re-establishing territorial borders.Within each of those borders, there seems to be relative calm (if not destitution). Barring the technologies that give us civil services and health care, I wonder if the number of homicides are comparable to an inner city community in the US (i.e. Watts/LA, CA) -- Different culture, different societal infrastructurebut, similar results (not including environmental impacts and lack of medical care). In the middle of all this, is a thriving telecommunications industry that apparently requires a consensus from the various tribes in order to exist. This would indicate some sort of confederation with the potential to participate in a world market without following any of the conventional wisdom of what we think is necessary for the survival of a society. The fact that all the members of these tribes seem to be as fiercely independent as they were over a decade ago, would also indicate that the meddling of outside influences isstill seen asunwelcome. I can't speak for anyone else in this list but, I'm very interested in how this works and wonder if there is something important to be learned here. Mike __ Sources: Human Rights Watch: Grassroots efforts, led by a broad variety of activists and elders, offer an alternative to the cycle of violence, although law and order remains an issue dominated by clan discrimination and kinship status, and the warleaders engage in reprisals against key elders to counter their efforts at negotiation. The greatest danger to the broad-based efforts at reconstruction could come from the international community-if any nation chose to interfere now by backing one or more warleader. http://www.hrw.org/reports/1995/somalia/ The Atlantic Monthly | May 2001Ayn Rand Comes to Somalia In the absence of government bureaucracy and foreign aid, business is starting to boom by Peter Maass http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/prem/200105/maass CIA World Fact Bookgeneral assessment: the public telecommunications system was almost completely destroyed or dismantled by the civil war factions; private wireless companies offer service in most major cities and charge the lowest international rates on the continent domestic: local cellular telephone systems have been established in Mogadishu and in several other population centers international: country code - 252; international connections are available from Mogadishu by satellite (This page was last updated on 9 August, 2005) http://www.vinsmano.info/cia/publications/factbook/fields/2124.html The Phones Keep Ringing In World's Poorest CountryBy Harun Hassan 22/07/2003 MOGADISHU (PANOS) Somalia is a country in ruins. With 70% of the population living below the poverty line and international relief largely cut-off by civil war, its a place where survival is a full-time occupation.Yet, in an anarchic country divided into vague fiefdoms subject to the whims of roaming warlords and freelance militias, one thing is strangely in order: telephone services.Under the shadow of ruined buildings and in the middle of dusty streets, large numbers of Somalis walk about with a mobile phone in their hand. For a country that does not even have its own government, Somalia has an amazingly developed telecoms industry. http://www.panos.org.uk/newsfeatures/featuredetails.asp?id=1125 Africans rush for mobile phoneshttp://newsblaster.cs.columbia.edu/dev/archives/2004-05-09-11-16-29/web/summaries/2004-05-09-11-16-29-113-comp-115.html___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Iran's Nuclear Program
Some quick checking shows that Canada has at least 80 CF-18's that were upgraded in the2003/2004 time frame and are in the process of being upgraded again to US Navy specs. Canada had at one time ( current status unknown ), CF-5's which is still a hot little aircraft, in some respect's comparable to a F-16 without all the extra fancy stuff ( and at almost half the cost of a combat ready F-16 ). The US Air Force still uses the T-38, which is nothing more than a striped F-5 used to teach pilots how to fly. A updated version is known as the F-20 Tigershark (1 engine instead of 2 isabout the biggestdesign change ). If you are interested ( and I get some time ), I know a book at the library that can give a better picture of current Canadian fighters. Greg H. BTW, better than 90% of the aircraft at Davis Monthan AFB, are not service ready, but are in storage ( it takes at least1 month to put a singleaircraft into action once put into storage and most take 2 or more months), andmostof those are way out of date. Some of thoseare providing parts and equipment to keep other aircraft flying. Others are rebuilt for drone duty ( which much of the time means they are shot out of the air ), or for testing of equipment.I doubt thatDavis Monthan AFB, could even defend it's self if attacked. Talk about hanging onto old junk, the bone yard still has aircraft from the Korean war. - Original Message - From: Joe Street To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2005 14:50 Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Iran's Nuclear Program I admit I don't know the exact number of aircraft in readiness status, who does? They do some funky stuff that the americans are embarrased and envious they didn't think of themselves like painting a mock canopy on the underbelly which fakes out the enemy and confuses the hell out of americans who can't decide which way they are turning in combat so maybe that counts as having two planes for every one?? They are still hanging on to a bunch of ancient junk as well like the sea king, but I do know that Canadian pilots take a tour flying a desk simply because there aren't enough planes to go around. In comparison the US pilots have their names painted beside the canopy on 'their' machine. What term would you use when comparing the number of servicable Canadian fighter aircraft to the number in the US arsenal? They've got a ferkin desert full of almost servicable ones in reserve as well down in Tucson I've seen them.Sorry if I've offended any Canadians, I know our military is proud my father was air force and I also know that Canadian pilots regularly out 'score' americans in training exercises but are you going to tell me we have any chance of even bluffing our way through a conflict with the US?Get real.JGreg and April wrote: What number do you consider to be " the handful "? Greg H. - Original Message - From: "Joe Street" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2005 7:45 Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Iran's Nuclear Program snip Our military is laughable -our pilots litterally have to take turns flying the handfull of aging f-18's in the air force. ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___Biofuel mailing listBiofuel@sustainablelists.orghttp://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.orgBiofuel at Journey to Forever:http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.htmlSearch the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages):http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] What has the world come to
robert luis rabello wrote: Clif Caldwell wrote: Is the source for this correct ? It might be good to cite the source if we are going to assasinate not only a living person but also a man's character. If you have the original source for this information then maybe we should post it here to help clear this up. Just a thought... Clif I JUST heard it on NPR! Here's the quote: http://www.sciencedaily.com/upi/?feed=TopNewsarticle=UPI-1-20050823-09170200-bc-us-robertson.xml I've read the entire New Testament from beginning to end, and nowhere do I find admonitions to murder people we don't like, or whose policies we do not approve. Pat Robertson is conclusively demonstrating who he is REALLY following . . . That man is no Christian. robert luis rabello The Edge of Justice Adventure for Your Mind http://www.newadventure.ca Ranger Supercharger Project Page http://www.members.shaw.ca/rabello/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ I to sadly have heard the quote out of his own mouth. I have also heard his contrite apology. Unfortunately we all say things in the moment we later regret. Two things are true in this world.. There is a God ... And I am not Him. I cannot speak to another man's salvation. It is regretable that men who are called men of God still have some of the old nature in them. Fortunately the process of sanctification is an ongoing process much like our process here to find the perfect method creating good fuel. May Mr. Robertson consider this episode part of his refining. Clif ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] WVO collector and restaurant threatened by rendering company
Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2005 07:49:17 -0400 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Biofuel] WVO collector and restaurant threatened by rendering company To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi Frieda, There are lawyers out there that HAVE worked with the little guy/girl against the big renderers. You may talk to one. I learned that the restuarant should give you a receipt for the grease you collect. In some states, it is illegal for anyone who is not a (state) registered renderer to collect WVO. ie Michigan. Hello, I've been searching through the State (of Michigan) License Search d'base and I can't find any such license requirements. Could you please shed some light on the specifics for me as that's my state. The closest I could come up with was for a Rendering Plant: Required State License(s): Any establishment that reduces dead animals to tallow and meat scraps, cracklings, or other items unfit for human consumption by cooking or processing must be licensed as a rendering plant by the Department of Agriculture, Animal Industry Division; (517) 373-1077. Revised: 12/2002 This specifies animal products (allbeit I dont know what a crackling is besides what's seen on certain Detroit corners) so I dont see this as pertaining to WVO collection/processing. I see another regarding liquid industrial waste, quite broadly stated as: Liquid Industrial Waste Hauler Required State License(s): When transporting liquid industrial waste from the premises of another contact the Department of Environmental Quality for further information (800) 662-9278. A Motor Carrier license is required with the Public Service Commission, Department of Labor Economic Growth at (517) 241-6030. However, hazardous waste transporters who have appropriate authorization may transport liquid industrial waste without obtaining a license. Revised: 5/2005 Since this is exempted by a hazmat license and seems to cover general transportation rather then rendering issues it doesn't seem to be applicable either. Past that the only other license I can see that would be even remotely conected to BioD production is: Diesel Fuel Dealer Required State License(s): When involved in the business of selling and delivering diesel motor fuel to the supply tanks of motor vehicles in Michigan should be registered with the Department of Treasury, Motor Fuel, Cigarette Miscellaneous Taxes Division; (517) 636-4630. Diesel tanks also should be registered with the Department of State Police, Fire Marshall; (517) 322-1924. Revised: 4/2005 It's 2nd paragraph that's of more particular intrest since they want the registration of tanks. I assume this whole lincensure is specific to petrolium based diesel but since it is broadly stated I dont know that as fact. Any legal insight to this or other BioD/WVO related issues (even if not specific to Michigan) would be of great intrest. Thanks, John Perhaps you could become a blue ribbon licensed WVO renderer on the state books? Check into what it would take. The renderers should have a contract with the restaurant maybe? Otherwise they are way out of line. The restuarant owner should tell the renderer to take his grease bin and stick it where the sun won't shine. For the renderer to claim that the restuarant is helping you cheat fuel taxes, is bizarre, but it's even more bizarre that in the same statement that the renderer would claim that the restuarant is responsible for your fuel road tax is the stupidest thing that I have heard of well, since this Pat Robertson thing just popped up... Just my two cents... Good Luck Frieda and keep us posted on how this works out. Surely we will be seeing more run in's with renderer in the near future. Best Regards, Michael Lendzian CINS Network Support Team Columbus State University CINS/Center for Commerce Technology Room 105 706.569.3044 (help desk) -- next part -- Hello all, The rendering company (company that collects used restaurant fryer oil), issued angry verbal threats to the Mom and Pop burger joint that gives me their used fryer oil. The restaurant puts their used fryer oil into my buckets, and I schlep it away. The renderers told the restaurant that it was illegal for them to give me their used fryer oil. They demanded that the restaurant give them my name and phone number. The renderers said that it was illegal for people to use fryer oil, or any other non-petroleum product, for fuel without paying a fuel tax to the state and feds, and that the restaurant was responsible to see that that tax is paid since it is their oil that is being used as a fuel. They also said there is legislation about to go through the California senate that supports their allegations. Thoughts? Thanks, Frieda
[Biofuel] Making Our Own
I am new to the list and have been reading daily for about two months now. I am very impressed with the level of knowledge and the willing attitudeto share that knowledge. Thanks I live across Puget Sound from Seattle on Bainbridge Island, Washington and I have been running my turbo diesel Land Cruiser on commercially made B100 for about a year now. Great results !!! I am interested now to find others in this area that may be willing to make a combined effortto set up a processor and start makingour own Biodiesel here on the island. Anyone interested Thanks again for the biodiesel info and the stimulating dialogue. Scott Brown ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] (no subject)
Hey Michael Would like some help also if you have the time. Any advice on the best way to get started? Thanks Gary From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] (no subject) Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2005 07:37:21 -0400 Hi, I live in Seale, Alabama. I would be happy to work with you. I have been making biodiesel for almost 3 years now. I look forward to hearing from you. Cheers! Michael Lendzian CINS Network Support Team Columbus State University CINS/Center for Commerce Technology Room 105 706.569.3044 (help desk) - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tuesday, August 23, 2005 7:22 pm Subject: [Biofuel] (no subject) I am looking for someone in Alabama, preferably Birmingham area that is making bio fuel that would be willing to show me the process and equipment used. I will also drive to TN, GA, MS, N-FL, if anyone is available. Thanks, Hunter ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.or g Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages):http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] help getting started - was Re: (no subject)
Hello Gary, welcome Hey Michael Would like some help also if you have the time. Any advice on the best way to get started? Start here: Where do I start? http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_make.html#start Keep going. If you have problems, check the list archives and/or ask. Best wishes Keith Thanks Gary From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] (no subject) Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2005 07:37:21 -0400 Hi, I live in Seale, Alabama. I would be happy to work with you. I have been making biodiesel for almost 3 years now. I look forward to hearing from you. Cheers! Michael Lendzian CINS Network Support Team Columbus State University CINS/Center for Commerce Technology Room 105 706.569.3044 (help desk) - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tuesday, August 23, 2005 7:22 pm Subject: [Biofuel] (no subject) I am looking for someone in Alabama, preferably Birmingham area that is making bio fuel that would be willing to show me the process and equipment used. I will also drive to TN, GA, MS, N-FL, if anyone is available. Thanks, Hunter ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Iran's Nuclear Program
Joe Street wrote: Really? When was the last time you bought lumber in Canada? I built a house with Canadian lumber just three years ago and did not see any of the problems you report. There are still a number of new homes going up in my neighborhood, and I haven't noticed any deterioration of lumber quality. I have seen a dramatic decline in the quality of product retailed in this country. All the good lumber goes south and what is left is the warped twisted boards with more knots than you have ever seen. Tell me how is that in my interest? I'm referring to the court rulings concerning NAFTA and softwood lumber. All of these have been in Canada's favor. Do you disagree? robert luis rabello The Edge of Justice Adventure for Your Mind http://www.newadventure.ca Ranger Supercharger Project Page http://www.members.shaw.ca/rabello/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] switchable permanent magnets? was Magnetic boots
Hi all, How do you turn off a permanent magnet electronically? I can see mechanical shields or something similar but switchable permanent magnet boots? There is no problem in turning off a permanent magnet, it can be done electronically or mechanically.Chris. It would be amazing if such an animal existed but I doubt it. regards tallex Alternate Energy Resource Network 1000+ news sources-resources updated daily http://www.alternate-energy.net ---Original Message--- From: Chris Lloyd [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Magnetic boots Sent: 24 Aug '05 21:32 ah yes, magnets once again -hold on to your wallet Funny things magnets, I did some work with them back in the 60s, they do seem to contain far more energy than they should. Although energy is probably not the right word. Use electro magnets to hold 100 Kg in the air and you can see the energy being used by the current flow, now how do you calculate the energy being used with permanent magnets doing the same job. There is no problem in turning off a permanent magnet, it can be done electronically or mechanically.Chris. -- Get your daily alternative energy news http://groups.yahoo.com/group/next_generation_grid news resources forums http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tomorrow-energy Alternative Energy Politics http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Alternative_Energy_Politics/ Alternate Energy Resource Network 1000+ news sources-resources updated daily http://www.alternate-energy.net ---Original Message--- ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
