Re: [Biofuel] We're all wrong
I call this the Wiley Coyote effect -- if you've watched those old cartoons, he runs off a cliff and never starts falling till he looks down. perhaps if we refuse to look down, we won't fall.. On 1/4/07, Joe Street [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Temperature is supposed to hit 10 degrees C tomorrow which is roughly 20 degrees above normal for this time of year in the area I live. But then there's this.ah news; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fu32oKEkcAcmode=relatedsearch= ROFL...gasp.choke Joe ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Another Pendulum
Google ram pump for all the details of this. The only drawback of the common design is that it pumps a portion of the source water, which can be problematic for drinking water supply, since the source is usually a surface source such as a stream or river. Using the large volume of surface water to pump a small volume of ground water source can be done through a variety of means, but it's more complicated. Zeke On 1/12/07, JAMES PHELPS [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This pendulum is not new, the Amish have used a similar device to pump water for years. Thier system uses a flow of say 1 cubic foot of water falling a distance of 1 foot - to elevate a much smaller volume uphill 40 feet as time is on thier side, periods of low water use slowly fills a storage tank in the attic so ample water at ample pressure is available during times of need. I am not going to waste time doing the math, but the energy equation in these devices is balanced. Period. respecfully, Jim ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Another Pendulum
http://journeytoforever.org/at_waterpump.html Water-powered water pumps - Appropriate technology: Journey to Forever Best Keith Google ram pump for all the details of this. The only drawback of the common design is that it pumps a portion of the source water, which can be problematic for drinking water supply, since the source is usually a surface source such as a stream or river. Using the large volume of surface water to pump a small volume of ground water source can be done through a variety of means, but it#39;s more complicated. Zeke On 1/12/07, JAMES PHELPS mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This pendulum is not new, the Amish have used a similar device to pump water for years. Thier system uses a flow of say 1 cubic foot of water falling a distance of 1 foot - to elevate a much smaller volume uphill 40 feet as time is on thier side, periods of low water use slowly fills a storage tank in the attic so ample water at ample pressure is available during times of need. I am not going to waste time doing the math, but the energy equation in these devices is balanced. Period. respecfully, Jim ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] We're all wrong
Ah I love the internet but it is a two edged sword. Where have all these experts come from who are they and where is their data? I am so sick of the lack of sources and documentation that I want to puke when I hear people, rational people, quote some crap they heard as if it were truth, is it any wonder scientists are such skeptics of information. They have to be. I would really love it if someone could refute without a doubt that we are not causing global warming. But even more pleasing is if they could do it in a world peer acceptance. Even the beloved Senator from Exxon -oops Oklahoma wishes to spread propaganda over fact (with the wool on). I for one do not know the truth nor does any one - but the trial going on is to determine what a reasonable man would believe. So far it's looking a lot like To kill a mockingbird all over with different actors personal or personified playing the respective parts with the Earth playing the part of the poor black man. The question is - who will play the jury this time? Jim - Original Message - From: Zeke Yewdallmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@sustainablelists.orgmailto:biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2007 9:52 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] We're all wrong I call this the Wiley Coyote effect -- if you've watched those old cartoons, he runs off a cliff and never starts falling till he looks down. perhaps if we refuse to look down, we won't fall.. On 1/4/07, Joe Street [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Temperature is supposed to hit 10 degrees C tomorrow which is roughly 20 degrees above normal for this time of year in the area I live. But then there's this.ah news; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fu32oKEkcAcmode=relatedsearch=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fu32oKEkcAcmode=relatedsearch= ROFL...gasp.choke Joe ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.orgmailto:Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.orghttp://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.htmlhttp://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] Can these people be trusted with our planet?
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/299253_inconvenient11.html Federal Way schools restrict Gore film by Robert McClure and Lisa Stiffler, seattlepi.com This week in Federal Way schools, it got a lot more inconvenient to show one of the top-grossing documentaries in U.S. history, the global-warming alert An Inconvenient Truth. After a parent who supports the teaching of creationism and opposes sex education complained about the film, the Federal Way School Board on Tuesday placed what it labeled a moratorium on showing the film. The movie consists largely of a computer presentation by former Vice President Al Gore recounting scientists' findings. Condoms don't belong in school, and neither does Al Gore. He's not a schoolteacher, said Frosty Hardison, a parent of seven who also said that he believes the Earth is 14,000 years old. The information that's being presented is a very cockeyed view of what the truth is. ... The Bible says that in the end times everything will burn up, but that perspective isn't in the DVD. Hardison's e-mail to the School Board prompted board member David Larson to propose the moratorium Tuesday night. Somebody could say you're killing free speech, and my retort to them would be we're encouraging free speech, said Larson, a lawyer. The beauty of our society is we allow debate. School Board members adopted a three-point policy that says teachers who want to show the movie must ensure that a credible, legitimate opposing view will be presented, that they must get the OK of the principal and the superintendent, and that any teachers who have shown the film must now present an opposing view. The requirement to represent another side follows district policy to represent both sides of a controversial issue, board President Ed Barney said. What is purported in this movie is, 'This is what is happening. Period. That is fact,' Barney said. Students should hear the perspective of global-warming skeptics and then make up their minds, he said. After they do, if they think driving around in cars is going to kill us all, that's fine, that's their choice. Asked whether an alternative explanation for evolution should be presented by teachers, Barney said it would be appropriate to tell students that other beliefs exist. It's only a theory, he said. While the question of climate change has provoked intense argument in political circles in recent years, among scientists its basic tenets have become the subject of an increasingly stronger consensus. In the light of new evidence and taking into account the remaining uncertainties, most of the observed warming over the last 50 years is likely to have been due to the increase in greenhouse gas concentrations, states a 2001 report by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, which advises policymakers. Furthermore, it is very likely that the 20th-century warming has contributed significantly to the observed sea level rise, through thermal expansion of seawater and widespread loss of land ice. The basics of that position are backed by the American Meteorological Society, the American Geophysical Union, the American Association for the Advancement of Science and the National Academy of Sciences. Laurie David, a co-producer of the movie, said that this is the first incident of its kind relating to the film. I am shocked that a school district would come to this decision, David said in a prepared statement. There is no opposing view to science, which is fact, and the facts are clear that global warming is here, now. The Federal Way incident started when Hardison learned that his daughter would see the movie in class. He objected. Hardison and his wife, Gayla, said they would prefer that the movie not be shown at all in schools. From what I've seen (of the movie) and what my husband has expressed to me, if (the movie) is going to take the approach of 'bad America, bad America,' I don't think it should be shown at all, Gayle Hardison said. If you're going to come in and just say America is creating the rotten ruin of the world, I don't think the video should be shown. Scientists say that Americans, with about 5 percent of the world's population, emit about 25 percent of the globe-warming gases. Larson, the School Board member, said a pre-existing policy should have alerted teachers and principals that the movie must be counterbalanced. The policy, titled Controversial Issues, Teaching of, says in part, It is the teacher's responsibility to present controversial issues that are free from prejudice and encourage students to form, hold and express their own opinions without personal prejudice or discrimination. The principal reason for that is to make sure that the public schools are not used for indoctrination, Larson said. Students contacted Wednesday said they favor allowing the movie to be shown. I think that a movie like that is a really great way to open people's eyes up about what you can do and what you are doing to the
[Biofuel] Splenda Explodes Internally, Says Chemist
Splenda Explodes Internally, Says Chemist By Shane Ellison, M.Sc. Copyright 2006© _www.healthmyths.net http://www.healthmyths.net/_ NewsWithViews.com 1-11-7 If there were a contest for the best example of total disregard for human life, the victor would be McNeil Nutritionals---makers of Splenda^(TM). Manufacturers of Vioxx^(TM) and Lipitor^(TM) would tie for a very distant second. McNeil Nutritionals is the undisputed drug-pushing champion for disguising their drug Splenda as a sweetener. Regardless of its drug qualities and potential for side effects, McNeil is dead set on putting it on every kitchen table in America. Apparently, Vioxx and Lipitor makers can't stoop so low as to deceptively masquerade their drug as a candy of sort. There is no question that their products are drugs and by definition come with negative side effects. Rather than sell directly to the consumer, these losers have to go through the painful process of using doctors to prescribe their dangerous goods. A keen student in corporate drug dealing, McNeil learned from aspartame and saccharine pushers that if a drug tastes sweet, then let the masses eat it in their cake. First though, you have to create a facade of natural health. They did this using a cute trade name that kind of sounds like splendid and packaged it in pretty colors. Hypnotized, the masses were duped instantly. As unquestionably as a dog humps your leg, millions of diabetics (and non-diabetics) blindly eat sucralose under the trade name Splenda in place of real sugar (sucrose). Splenda was strategically released on April fool's day in 1998. This day is reserved worldwide for hoaxes and practical jokes on friends and family, the aim of which is to embarrass the gullible. McNeil certainly succeeded. The splendid Splenda hoax is costing gullible Americans $187 million annually*^1 *. While many people wonder about the safety of Splenda, they rarely question it. Despite its many unknowns and inherent dangers, Splenda demand has grown faster than its supply. No longer do I have to question my faith in fellow Man. He is not a total idiot, just a gullible one. McNeil jokesters are laughing all the way to the bank. Splenda is not as harmless as McNeil wants you to believe. A mixture of sucralose, maltodextrine, and dextrose (a detrimental simple sugar), each of the not-so-splendid Splenda ingredients has downfalls. Aside from the fact that it really isn't sugar and calorie free, here is one big reason to avoid the deceitful mix . . . think April fool's day: Splenda contains a potential poison---the drug sucralose. This chemical is 600 times sweeter than sugar. To make sucralose, chlorine is used. Chlorine has a split personality. It can be harmless or it can be life threatening. In combo with sodium, chlorine forms a harmless ionic bond to yield table salt. Sucralose makers often highlight this worthless fact to defend its safety. Apparently, they missed the second day of Chemistry 101---the day they teach covalent bonds. When used with carbon, the chlorine atom in sucralose forms a covalent bond. The end result is the historically deadly organochlorine or simply: a Really-Nasty Form of Chlorine (RNFOC). Unlike ionic bonds, covalently bound chlorines are a big no-no for the human body. They yield insecticides, pesticides, and herbicides---not something you want in the lunch box of your precious child. It's therefore no surprise that the originators of sucralose, chemists Hough and Phadnis, were attempting to design new insecticides when they discovered it! It wasn't until the young Phadnis accidentally tasted his new insecticide that he learned it was sweet. And because sugars are more profitable than insecticides, the whole insecticide idea got canned and a new sweetener called Splenda got packaged. To hide its origin, Splenda pushers assert that sucralose is made from sugar so it tastes like sugar. Sucralose is as close to sugar as Windex^(TM) is to ocean water. The RNFOC poses a real and present danger to all Splenda users. It is risky because the RNFOC confers a molecule with a set of super powers that wreak havoc on the human body. For example, Agent Orange, used in the U.S. Army's herbicidal warfare program, is a RNFOC. Exposure can lead to Hodgkin's lymphoma and non-Hodgkin's lymphoma, as well as diabetes and various forms of cancer! Other shocking examples are the war gas phosgene, chlordane, and lindane*^2 *. The RNFOC is lethal because it allows poisons to be fat soluble while rendering the natural defense mechanisms of the body helpless. A poison that is fat-soluble is akin to a bomb exploding internally. It invades every nook and cranny of the body. Cell walls and DNA---the genetic map of human life---become nothing more than potential casualties of war when exposed. Sucralose is only 25% water-soluble*^3 *, which means a vast majority of it may explode internally. In general, this
[Biofuel] Back to the topic...New BD stuff
I have managed to score a 50 - 60 gallon aluminum tank with fittings - perfect for a processor. I also have a 67 gallon (looks like lucite) circular fish tank. I know MOX does not like aluminum, and have heard BD does not like Lucite or Lexan or whatever this. However, BD is fine in aluminum tanks. I am wondering if I can use the aluminum tank as a processor, being careful when introducing the MOX - I've made BD in HDPE2 containers plenty (even the stray plastic bottle way early on). So, any thoughts on the aluminum as processor and the fishtank as a wash or settling tank? -Weaver ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Can these people be trusted with our planet?
I agree that we should not only present a one sided view of things. Point in case: millions of children are misled every year by secularists on the law of gravity. What about Jesus rising into the sky. Walking on water? Every schoolchild should be ecouraged to go to the roof of the school building and experiment on his or her own to see if they really believe in gravity, instead of giving them such a one sided and scientific view. Of course, soon the only people remaining will be the ones who did believe in gravity. Too bad that global warming can take all of us with it, not just the skeptics. Alternatively, if you want to teach the bible as literal fact, I believe that Tolkien's history of Middle Earth should also presented as literal fact. On 1/13/07, David Kramer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/299253_inconvenient11.html Federal Way schools restrict Gore film by Robert McClure and Lisa Stiffler, seattlepi.com This week in Federal Way schools, it got a lot more inconvenient to show one of the top-grossing documentaries in U.S. history, the global-warming alert An Inconvenient Truth. After a parent who supports the teaching of creationism and opposes sex education complained about the film, the Federal Way School Board on Tuesday placed what it labeled a moratorium on showing the film. The movie consists largely of a computer presentation by former Vice President Al Gore recounting scientists' findings. Condoms don't belong in school, and neither does Al Gore. He's not a schoolteacher, said Frosty Hardison, a parent of seven who also said that he believes the Earth is 14,000 years old. The information that's being presented is a very cockeyed view of what the truth is. ... The Bible says that in the end times everything will burn up, but that perspective isn't in the DVD. Hardison's e-mail to the School Board prompted board member David Larson to propose the moratorium Tuesday night. Somebody could say you're killing free speech, and my retort to them would be we're encouraging free speech, said Larson, a lawyer. The beauty of our society is we allow debate. School Board members adopted a three-point policy that says teachers who want to show the movie must ensure that a credible, legitimate opposing view will be presented, that they must get the OK of the principal and the superintendent, and that any teachers who have shown the film must now present an opposing view. The requirement to represent another side follows district policy to represent both sides of a controversial issue, board President Ed Barney said. What is purported in this movie is, 'This is what is happening. Period. That is fact,' Barney said. Students should hear the perspective of global-warming skeptics and then make up their minds, he said. After they do, if they think driving around in cars is going to kill us all, that's fine, that's their choice. Asked whether an alternative explanation for evolution should be presented by teachers, Barney said it would be appropriate to tell students that other beliefs exist. It's only a theory, he said. While the question of climate change has provoked intense argument in political circles in recent years, among scientists its basic tenets have become the subject of an increasingly stronger consensus. In the light of new evidence and taking into account the remaining uncertainties, most of the observed warming over the last 50 years is likely to have been due to the increase in greenhouse gas concentrations, states a 2001 report by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, which advises policymakers. Furthermore, it is very likely that the 20th-century warming has contributed significantly to the observed sea level rise, through thermal expansion of seawater and widespread loss of land ice. The basics of that position are backed by the American Meteorological Society, the American Geophysical Union, the American Association for the Advancement of Science and the National Academy of Sciences. Laurie David, a co-producer of the movie, said that this is the first incident of its kind relating to the film. I am shocked that a school district would come to this decision, David said in a prepared statement. There is no opposing view to science, which is fact, and the facts are clear that global warming is here, now. The Federal Way incident started when Hardison learned that his daughter would see the movie in class. He objected. Hardison and his wife, Gayla, said they would prefer that the movie not be shown at all in schools. From what I've seen (of the movie) and what my husband has expressed to me, if (the movie) is going to take the approach of 'bad America, bad America,' I don't think it should be shown at all, Gayle Hardison said. If you're going to come in and just say America is creating the rotten ruin of the world, I don't think the video should be shown. Scientists say that Americans, with about 5 percent of the world's
Re: [Biofuel] Can these people be trusted with our planet?
Whatever. If you're being raptured, throw me your wallet. Zeke Yewdall wrote: I agree that we should not only present a one sided view of things. Point in case: millions of children are misled every year by secularists on the law of gravity. What about Jesus rising into the sky. Walking on water? Every schoolchild should be ecouraged to go to the roof of the school building and experiment on his or her own to see if they really believe in gravity, instead of giving them such a one sided and scientific view. Of course, soon the only people remaining will be the ones who did believe in gravity. Too bad that global warming can take all of us with it, not just the skeptics. Alternatively, if you want to teach the bible as literal fact, I believe that Tolkien's history of Middle Earth should also presented as literal fact. On 1/13/07, *David Kramer* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/299253_inconvenient11.html Federal Way schools restrict Gore film by Robert McClure and Lisa Stiffler, seattlepi.com http://seattlepi.com This week in Federal Way schools, it got a lot more inconvenient to show one of the top-grossing documentaries in U.S. history, the global-warming alert An Inconvenient Truth. After a parent who supports the teaching of creationism and opposes sex education complained about the film, the Federal Way School Board on Tuesday placed what it labeled a moratorium on showing the film. The movie consists largely of a computer presentation by former Vice President Al Gore recounting scientists' findings. Condoms don't belong in school, and neither does Al Gore. He's not a schoolteacher, said Frosty Hardison, a parent of seven who also said that he believes the Earth is 14,000 years old. The information that's being presented is a very cockeyed view of what the truth is. ... The Bible says that in the end times everything will burn up, but that perspective isn't in the DVD. Hardison's e-mail to the School Board prompted board member David Larson to propose the moratorium Tuesday night. Somebody could say you're killing free speech, and my retort to them would be we're encouraging free speech, said Larson, a lawyer. The beauty of our society is we allow debate. School Board members adopted a three-point policy that says teachers who want to show the movie must ensure that a credible, legitimate opposing view will be presented, that they must get the OK of the principal and the superintendent, and that any teachers who have shown the film must now present an opposing view. The requirement to represent another side follows district policy to represent both sides of a controversial issue, board President Ed Barney said. What is purported in this movie is, 'This is what is happening. Period. That is fact,' Barney said. Students should hear the perspective of global-warming skeptics and then make up their minds, he said. After they do, if they think driving around in cars is going to kill us all, that's fine, that's their choice. Asked whether an alternative explanation for evolution should be presented by teachers, Barney said it would be appropriate to tell students that other beliefs exist. It's only a theory, he said. While the question of climate change has provoked intense argument in political circles in recent years, among scientists its basic tenets have become the subject of an increasingly stronger consensus. In the light of new evidence and taking into account the remaining uncertainties, most of the observed warming over the last 50 years is likely to have been due to the increase in greenhouse gas concentrations, states a 2001 report by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, which advises policymakers. Furthermore, it is very likely that the 20th-century warming has contributed significantly to the observed sea level rise, through thermal expansion of seawater and widespread loss of land ice. The basics of that position are backed by the American Meteorological Society, the American Geophysical Union, the American Association for the Advancement of Science and the National Academy of Sciences. Laurie David, a co-producer of the movie, said that this is the first incident of its kind relating to the film. I am shocked that a school district would come to this decision, David said in a prepared statement. There is no opposing view to science, which is fact, and the facts are clear that global warming is here, now. The Federal Way incident started
Re: [Biofuel] Can these people be trusted with our planet?
David Kramer wrote: snip This week in Federal Way schools, it got a lot more inconvenient to show one of the top-grossing documentaries in U.S. history, the global-warming alert An Inconvenient Truth. After a parent who supports the teaching of creationism and opposes sex education complained about the film, the Federal Way School Board on Tuesday placed what it labeled a moratorium on showing the film. The movie consists largely of a computer presentation by former Vice President Al Gore recounting scientists' findings. This was big news on the radio up here this weekend. Condoms don't belong in school, and neither does Al Gore. He's not a schoolteacher, said Frosty Hardison, a parent of seven who also said that he believes the Earth is 14,000 years old. The information that's being presented is a very cockeyed view of what the truth is. ... The Bible says that in the end times everything will burn up, but that perspective isn't in the DVD. Sigh . . . Jesus, please save me from your followers!!! Asked whether an alternative explanation for evolution should be presented by teachers, Barney said it would be appropriate to tell students that other beliefs exist. It's only a theory, he said. Sometimes it's embarrassing to go to church with people like this! I am shocked that a school district would come to this decision, David said in a prepared statement. There is no opposing view to science, which is fact, and the facts are clear that global warming is here, now. The Federal Way incident started when Hardison learned that his daughter would see the movie in class. He objected. Hardison and his wife, Gayla, said they would prefer that the movie not be shown at all in schools. If Mr. Hardison felt strongly about it, he should have asked that his OWN daughter be given a different assignment. Imposing this narrow view on everyone else's children isn't right. From what I've seen (of the movie) and what my husband has expressed to me, if (the movie) is going to take the approach of 'bad America, bad America,' I don't think it should be shown at all, Gayle Hardison said. If you're going to come in and just say America is creating the rotten ruin of the world, I don't think the video should be shown. Spoken by someone who clearly HASN'T seen the film! robert luis rabello The Edge of Justice The Long Journey New Adventure for Your Mind http://www.newadventure.ca Ranger Supercharger Project Page http://www.members.shaw.ca/rabello/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Part of atlantic current halted for ten days in 2004 - alarms scientists
Scary stuff - some are saying we're wrong about global warming! (shakes head in despair!) Regards Malcolm http://lotusinthemud.typepad.com/sujatin/2006/10/part_of_atlanti.html Part of atlantic current halted for ten days - alarms scientists . No new ice age yet, but Gulf Stream is weakening . Atlantic current came to halt for 10 days in 2004 James Randerson, science correspondent FridayOctober 27, 2006 http://www.guardian.co.uk/ The Guardian Scientists have uncovered more evidence for a dramatic weakening in the vast ocean current that gives Britain its relatively balmy climate by dragging warm water northwards from the tropics. The slowdown, which climate modellers have predicted will follow global warming, has been confirmed by the most detailed study yet of ocean flow in the Atlantic. Most alarmingly, the data reveal that a part of the current, which is usually 60 times more powerful than the Amazon river, came to a temporary halt during November 2004. Warm water brought to Europe's shores raises the temperature by as much as 10C in some places and without it the continent would be much colder and drier. Researchers are not sure yet what to make of the 10-day hiatus. We'd never seen anything like that before and we don't understand it. We didn't know it could happen, said Harry Bryden, at the National Oceanography Centre, in Southampton, who presented the findings to a conference in Birmingham on rapid climate change. Is it the first sign that the current is stuttering to a halt? I want to know more before I say that, Professor Bryden said. Lloyd Keigwin, a scientist at the Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution, in Massachusetts, in the US, described the temporary shutdown as the most abrupt change in the whole [climate] record. He added: It only lasted 10 days. But suppose it lasted 30 or 60 days, when do you ring up the prime minister and say let's start stockpiling fuel? How can we rule out a longer one next year? Prof Bryden's group stunned climate researchers last year with data suggesting that the flow rate of the Atlantic circulation had dropped by about 6m tonnes of water a second from 1957 to 1998. If the current remained that weak, he predicted, it would lead to a 1C drop in the UK in the next decade. A complete shutdown would lead to a 4C-6C cooling over 20 years. The study prompted the UK's Natural Environment Research Council to set up an array of 16 submerged stations spread across the Atlantic, from Florida to north Africa, to measure flow rate and other variables at different depths. Data from these stations confirmed the slowdown in 1998 was not a freak observation- although the current does seem to have picked up slightly since. ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] Township fleet set to go green - Aldergrove Star - 2007.01.11
Township fleet set to go green The Township of Langley is one of the first municipalities in Canada to join a new program aimed at greening our nation's vehicle fleets. Under the recently launched E3 Fleet program, Canadian fleet managers now have the tools needed to reduce their impact on the environment while saving money. The program includes the first green rating system for vehicle fleets in North America. This reinforces the Township's commitment to sustainability and lessening our contribution to global warming, Township of Langley mayor Kurt Alberts said. It also highlights the efforts already made in the Township fleet such as right-sizing our vehicles and using alternative fuels. The Fraser Basin Council and program partners Western Economic Diversification Canada and BC Ministry of the Environment announced the E3 Fleet program in Vancouver last week. The program will provide the Township with services and resources to increase fuel efficiency, reduce emissions, manage expenses, incorporate new technologies and use alternative fuels. The Township of Langley recently moved its entire diesel fleet to Biodiesel said John McQueen, fleet manager for the Township of Langley. This program, like our switch to Biodiesel, isn't just about operating more efficiently. It's about influencing other fleets to do the same by recognizing the efforts we're making. The E3 program is expected to help the Township reach its greenhouse gas emissions target of 10 per cent below year 2000 levels by 2010, with the move to Biodiesel expected to reduce life- cycle carbon emissions from Township vehicles and equipment by over 15 per cent. We recognize that Canadian fleets face challenges, said Mark Warawa, Parliamentary Secretary to the Minister of Environment. The E3 Fleet program is a great opportunity for Canadians to showcase our leadership in developing and adopting sustainability best practices. The E3 Fleet system has four components: a Green Rating Guide, a points system for determining just how green a fleet is, a third party audit of fleets and finally the Bronze, Silver, Gold, or Platinum level rating. One of the best parts of this innovative program is that we're showing managers of trucking, utility, urban delivery, courier, and government fleets that operating in a more environmentally sustainable way can also help their bottom line, said Dr. Charles Jago, chairman of the Fraser Basin Council. Among the E3 Fleet's charter members are Auto-Gas Propane, University of BC, BC Hydro, District of Maple Ridge, Enbridge, Township of Langley, cities of Kelowna, Coquitlam, North Vancouver, Vancouver, Whistler, Williams Lake and Hamilton, Novex Courier as well as the BC Ministry of Environment. These charter members collectively operate more than 15,000 vehicles. The B.C. government is pleased to take a leading role in the greening of fleets across the province, said Barry Penner, B.C. Minister of Environment. We encourage fleet operators around B.C. to get involved in the E3 program, and the Township of Langley is playing a part in reducing energy consumption and air pollution, said Langley MLA Mary Polak. Copyright 2007 Aldergrove Star -- Darryl McMahon It's your planet. If you won't look after it, who will? The Emperor's New Hydrogen Economy (now in print and eBook) http://www.econogics.com/TENHE/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Can these people be trusted with our planet?
I am not a bible thumper. I do think that much of the bible is a historical accounting described a best they could for the time. The first book, Genesis is rather intriguing. Of course the planet didn't evolve in 5 days before man set foot, but if you were a deity or alien or something, this would have been the best way to describe to more primitive peoples how they got there. What was it that Ezekial was describing? Alien craft? Who knows, but his description is clearly the best he could muster given the lack of more modern descriptions. I also think that today's bible is a collection of accounting that has been edited for specific purposes. Just my take on things. Cheers, John -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Zeke Yewdall Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2007 4:27 PM To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Can these people be trusted with our planet? I agree that we should not only present a one sided view of things. Point in case: millions of children are misled every year by secularists on the law of gravity. What about Jesus rising into the sky. Walking on water? Every schoolchild should be ecouraged to go to the roof of the school building and experiment on his or her own to see if they really believe in gravity, instead of giving them such a one sided and scientific view. Of course, soon the only people remaining will be the ones who did believe in gravity. Too bad that global warming can take all of us with it, not just the skeptics. Alternatively, if you want to teach the bible as literal fact, I believe that Tolkien's history of Middle Earth should also presented as literal fact. On 1/13/07, David Kramer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/299253_inconvenient11.html Federal Way schools restrict Gore film by Robert McClure and Lisa Stiffler, seattlepi.com This week in Federal Way schools, it got a lot more inconvenient to show one of the top-grossing documentaries in U.S. history, the global-warming alert An Inconvenient Truth. After a parent who supports the teaching of creationism and opposes sex education complained about the film, the Federal Way School Board on Tuesday placed what it labeled a moratorium on showing the film. The movie consists largely of a computer presentation by former Vice President Al Gore recounting scientists' findings. Condoms don't belong in school, and neither does Al Gore. He's not a schoolteacher, said Frosty Hardison, a parent of seven who also said that he believes the Earth is 14,000 years old. The information that's being presented is a very cockeyed view of what the truth is. ... The Bible says that in the end times everything will burn up, but that perspective isn't in the DVD. Hardison's e-mail to the School Board prompted board member David Larson to propose the moratorium Tuesday night. Somebody could say you're killing free speech, and my retort to them would be we're encouraging free speech, said Larson, a lawyer. The beauty of our society is we allow debate. School Board members adopted a three-point policy that says teachers who want to show the movie must ensure that a credible, legitimate opposing view will be presented, that they must get the OK of the principal and the superintendent, and that any teachers who have shown the film must now present an opposing view. The requirement to represent another side follows district policy to represent both sides of a controversial issue, board President Ed Barney said. What is purported in this movie is, 'This is what is happening. Period. That is fact,' Barney said. Students should hear the perspective of global-warming skeptics and then make up their minds, he said. After they do, if they think driving around in cars is going to kill us all, that's fine, that's their choice. Asked whether an alternative explanation for evolution should be presented by teachers, Barney said it would be appropriate to tell students that other beliefs exist. It's only a theory, he said. While the question of climate change has provoked intense argument in political circles in recent years, among scientists its basic tenets have become the subject of an increasingly stronger consensus. In the light of new evidence and taking into account the remaining uncertainties, most of the observed warming over the last 50 years is likely to have been due to the increase in greenhouse gas concentrations, states a 2001 report by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, which advises policymakers. Furthermore, it is very likely that the 20th-century warming has contributed significantly to the observed sea level rise, through thermal expansion of seawater and widespread loss of land ice. The basics
Re: [Biofuel] Splenda Explodes Internally, Says Chemist
Not trying to be too much of a smartass, but 300 million Americans, 187 million annually =623 thousand per an American annually That's a little off somewhere. Logan Vilas -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of D. Mindock Sent: Friday, January 12, 2007 11:34 PM To: Undisclosed-Recipient:; Subject: [Biofuel] Splenda Explodes Internally, Says Chemist Splenda Explodes Internally, Says Chemist By Shane Ellison, M.Sc. Copyright 2006C _www.healthmyths.net http://www.healthmyths.net/ http://www.healthmyths.net/ _ NewsWithViews.com 1-11-7 If there were a contest for the best example of total disregard for human life, the victor would be McNeil Nutritionals---makers of Splenda^(TM). Manufacturers of Vioxx^(TM) and Lipitor^(TM) would tie for a very distant second. McNeil Nutritionals is the undisputed drug-pushing champion for disguising their drug Splenda as a sweetener. Regardless of its drug qualities and potential for side effects, McNeil is dead set on putting it on every kitchen table in America. Apparently, Vioxx and Lipitor makers can't stoop so low as to deceptively masquerade their drug as a candy of sort. There is no question that their products are drugs and by definition come with negative side effects. Rather than sell directly to the consumer, these losers have to go through the painful process of using doctors to prescribe their dangerous goods. A keen student in corporate drug dealing, McNeil learned from aspartame and saccharine pushers that if a drug tastes sweet, then let the masses eat it in their cake. First though, you have to create a facade of natural health. They did this using a cute trade name that kind of sounds like splendid and packaged it in pretty colors. Hypnotized, the masses were duped instantly. As unquestionably as a dog humps your leg, millions of diabetics (and non-diabetics) blindly eat sucralose under the trade name Splenda in place of real sugar (sucrose). Splenda was strategically released on April fool's day in 1998. This day is reserved worldwide for hoaxes and practical jokes on friends and family, the aim of which is to embarrass the gullible. McNeil certainly succeeded. The splendid Splenda hoax is costing gullible Americans $187 million annually*^1 *. While many people wonder about the safety of Splenda, they rarely question it. Despite its many unknowns and inherent dangers, Splenda demand has grown faster than its supply. No longer do I have to question my faith in fellow Man. He is not a total idiot, just a gullible one. McNeil jokesters are laughing all the way to the bank. Splenda is not as harmless as McNeil wants you to believe. A mixture of sucralose, maltodextrine, and dextrose (a detrimental simple sugar), each of the not-so-splendid Splenda ingredients has downfalls. Aside from the fact that it really isn't sugar and calorie free, here is one big reason to avoid the deceitful mix . . . think April fool's day: Splenda contains a potential poison---the drug sucralose. This chemical is 600 times sweeter than sugar. To make sucralose, chlorine is used. Chlorine has a split personality. It can be harmless or it can be life threatening. In combo with sodium, chlorine forms a harmless ionic bond to yield table salt. Sucralose makers often highlight this worthless fact to defend its safety. Apparently, they missed the second day of Chemistry 101---the day they teach covalent bonds. When used with carbon, the chlorine atom in sucralose forms a covalent bond. The end result is the historically deadly organochlorine or simply: a Really-Nasty Form of Chlorine (RNFOC). Unlike ionic bonds, covalently bound chlorines are a big no-no for the human body. They yield insecticides, pesticides, and herbicides---not something you want in the lunch box of your precious child. It's therefore no surprise that the originators of sucralose, chemists Hough and Phadnis, were attempting to design new insecticides when they discovered it! It wasn't until the young Phadnis accidentally tasted his new insecticide that he learned it was sweet. And because sugars are more profitable than insecticides, the whole insecticide idea got canned and a new sweetener called Splenda got packaged. To hide its origin, Splenda pushers assert that sucralose is made from sugar so it tastes like sugar. Sucralose is as close to sugar as Windex^(TM) is to ocean water. The RNFOC poses a real and present danger to all Splenda users. It is risky because the RNFOC confers a molecule with a set of super powers that wreak havoc on the human body. For example, Agent Orange, used in the U.S. Army's herbicidal warfare program, is a RNFOC. Exposure can lead to Hodgkin's lymphoma and non-Hodgkin's lymphoma, as well as diabetes and various forms of cancer! Other shocking examples are the war gas phosgene, chlordane, and lindane*^2 *. The RNFOC is lethal because it allows poisons to be fat soluble
Re: [Biofuel] Splenda Explodes Internally, Says Chemist
I personally don't like any of the Artificial sweeteners out there. If you want something sweet, you put sugar in it. If normal table sugar doesn't dissolve well, you go to finely ground confectioner's sugar. This goes for coffee, tea, cookies, cakes, candy; anything that needs sweetening gets real sugar put in it. Maybe there are, maybe there aren't hidden death-agents in the Artificial stuff; all I know is they have all shown to leave a nasty aftertaste that requires consuming incredibly strong-tasting foods to get rid of. I do, however, still drink sodas; everyone needs a vice, after all. I just don't drink any of the diet or low calorie sodas, as they tend to run heavy on the artificials and I'm active enough to burn off calories from the real thing. -Kurt Logan Vilas wrote: Not trying to be too much of a smartass, but 300 million Americans, 187 million annually =623 thousand per an American annually That's a little off somewhere. Logan Vilas -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of D. Mindock Sent: Friday, January 12, 2007 11:34 PM To: Undisclosed-Recipient:; Subject: [Biofuel] Splenda Explodes Internally, Says Chemist Splenda Explodes Internally, Says Chemist By Shane Ellison, M.Sc. Copyright 2006C _www.healthmyths.net http://www.healthmyths.net/ http://www.healthmyths.net/ _ NewsWithViews.com 1-11-7 If there were a contest for the best example of total disregard for human life, the victor would be McNeil Nutritionals---makers of Splenda^(TM). Manufacturers of Vioxx^(TM) and Lipitor^(TM) would tie for a very distant second. McNeil Nutritionals is the undisputed drug-pushing champion for disguising their drug Splenda as a sweetener. Regardless of its drug qualities and potential for side effects, McNeil is dead set on putting it on every kitchen table in America. Apparently, Vioxx and Lipitor makers can't stoop so low as to deceptively masquerade their drug as a candy of sort. There is no question that their products are drugs and by definition come with negative side effects. Rather than sell directly to the consumer, these losers have to go through the painful process of using doctors to prescribe their dangerous goods. A keen student in corporate drug dealing, McNeil learned from aspartame and saccharine pushers that if a drug tastes sweet, then let the masses eat it in their cake. First though, you have to create a facade of natural health. They did this using a cute trade name that kind of sounds like splendid and packaged it in pretty colors. Hypnotized, the masses were duped instantly. As unquestionably as a dog humps your leg, millions of diabetics (and non-diabetics) blindly eat sucralose under the trade name Splenda in place of real sugar (sucrose). Splenda was strategically released on April fool's day in 1998. This day is reserved worldwide for hoaxes and practical jokes on friends and family, the aim of which is to embarrass the gullible. McNeil certainly succeeded. The splendid Splenda hoax is costing gullible Americans $187 million annually*^1 *. While many people wonder about the safety of Splenda, they rarely question it. Despite its many unknowns and inherent dangers, Splenda demand has grown faster than its supply. No longer do I have to question my faith in fellow Man. He is not a total idiot, just a gullible one. McNeil jokesters are laughing all the way to the bank. Splenda is not as harmless as McNeil wants you to believe. A mixture of sucralose, maltodextrine, and dextrose (a detrimental simple sugar), each of the not-so-splendid Splenda ingredients has downfalls. Aside from the fact that it really isn't sugar and calorie free, here is one big reason to avoid the deceitful mix . . . think April fool's day: Splenda contains a potential poison---the drug sucralose. This chemical is 600 times sweeter than sugar. To make sucralose, chlorine is used. Chlorine has a split personality. It can be harmless or it can be life threatening. In combo with sodium, chlorine forms a harmless ionic bond to yield table salt. Sucralose makers often highlight this worthless fact to defend its safety. Apparently, they missed the second day of Chemistry 101---the day they teach covalent bonds. When used with carbon, the chlorine atom in sucralose forms a covalent bond. The end result is the historically deadly organochlorine or simply: a Really-Nasty Form of Chlorine (RNFOC). Unlike ionic bonds, covalently bound chlorines are a big no-no for the human body. They yield insecticides, pesticides, and herbicides---not something you want in the lunch box of your precious child. It's therefore no surprise that the originators of sucralose, chemists Hough and Phadnis, were attempting to design new insecticides when they discovered it! It wasn't until the young Phadnis accidentally tasted his new insecticide that he
Re: [Biofuel] Can these people be trusted with our planet?
said Frosty Hardison, Who the hell is named Frosty? Besides, she has been mislead about the One True Way. The Flying Spaghetti Monster is not pleased. robert and benita rabello wrote: David Kramer wrote: snip This week in Federal Way schools, it got a lot more inconvenient to show one of the top-grossing documentaries in U.S. history, the global-warming alert An Inconvenient Truth. After a parent who supports the teaching of creationism and opposes sex education complained about the film, the Federal Way School Board on Tuesday placed what it labeled a moratorium on showing the film. The movie consists largely of a computer presentation by former Vice President Al Gore recounting scientists' findings. This was big news on the radio up here this weekend. Condoms don't belong in school, and neither does Al Gore. He's not a schoolteacher, said Frosty Hardison, a parent of seven who also said that he believes the Earth is 14,000 years old. The information that's being presented is a very cockeyed view of what the truth is. ... The Bible says that in the end times everything will burn up, but that perspective isn't in the DVD. Sigh . . . Jesus, please save me from your followers!!! Asked whether an alternative explanation for evolution should be presented by teachers, Barney said it would be appropriate to tell students that other beliefs exist. It's only a theory, he said. Sometimes it's embarrassing to go to church with people like this! I am shocked that a school district would come to this decision, David said in a prepared statement. There is no opposing view to science, which is fact, and the facts are clear that global warming is here, now. The Federal Way incident started when Hardison learned that his daughter would see the movie in class. He objected. Hardison and his wife, Gayla, said they would prefer that the movie not be shown at all in schools. If Mr. Hardison felt strongly about it, he should have asked that his OWN daughter be given a different assignment. Imposing this narrow view on everyone else's children isn't right. From what I've seen (of the movie) and what my husband has expressed to me, if (the movie) is going to take the approach of 'bad America, bad America,' I don't think it should be shown at all, Gayle Hardison said. If you're going to come in and just say America is creating the rotten ruin of the world, I don't think the video should be shown. Spoken by someone who clearly HASN'T seen the film! robert luis rabello The Edge of Justice The Long Journey New Adventure for Your Mind http://www.newadventure.ca Ranger Supercharger Project Page http://www.members.shaw.ca/rabello/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Can these people be trusted with our planet?
I'm sick and tired of all you heretics. If dinosaurs were real, how come they ain't in the Bible? Huh? Yore goin' to Heck, all of you. Zeke Yewdall wrote: I agree that we should not only present a one sided view of things. Point in case: millions of children are misled every year by secularists on the law of gravity. What about Jesus rising into the sky. Walking on water? Every schoolchild should be ecouraged to go to the roof of the school building and experiment on his or her own to see if they really believe in gravity, instead of giving them such a one sided and scientific view. Of course, soon the only people remaining will be the ones who did believe in gravity. Too bad that global warming can take all of us with it, not just the skeptics. Alternatively, if you want to teach the bible as literal fact, I believe that Tolkien's history of Middle Earth should also presented as literal fact. On 1/13/07, *David Kramer* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/299253_inconvenient11.html Federal Way schools restrict Gore film by Robert McClure and Lisa Stiffler, seattlepi.com http://seattlepi.com This week in Federal Way schools, it got a lot more inconvenient to show one of the top-grossing documentaries in U.S. history, the global-warming alert An Inconvenient Truth. After a parent who supports the teaching of creationism and opposes sex education complained about the film, the Federal Way School Board on Tuesday placed what it labeled a moratorium on showing the film. The movie consists largely of a computer presentation by former Vice President Al Gore recounting scientists' findings. Condoms don't belong in school, and neither does Al Gore. He's not a schoolteacher, said Frosty Hardison, a parent of seven who also said that he believes the Earth is 14,000 years old. The information that's being presented is a very cockeyed view of what the truth is. ... The Bible says that in the end times everything will burn up, but that perspective isn't in the DVD. Hardison's e-mail to the School Board prompted board member David Larson to propose the moratorium Tuesday night. Somebody could say you're killing free speech, and my retort to them would be we're encouraging free speech, said Larson, a lawyer. The beauty of our society is we allow debate. School Board members adopted a three-point policy that says teachers who want to show the movie must ensure that a credible, legitimate opposing view will be presented, that they must get the OK of the principal and the superintendent, and that any teachers who have shown the film must now present an opposing view. The requirement to represent another side follows district policy to represent both sides of a controversial issue, board President Ed Barney said. What is purported in this movie is, 'This is what is happening. Period. That is fact,' Barney said. Students should hear the perspective of global-warming skeptics and then make up their minds, he said. After they do, if they think driving around in cars is going to kill us all, that's fine, that's their choice. Asked whether an alternative explanation for evolution should be presented by teachers, Barney said it would be appropriate to tell students that other beliefs exist. It's only a theory, he said. While the question of climate change has provoked intense argument in political circles in recent years, among scientists its basic tenets have become the subject of an increasingly stronger consensus. In the light of new evidence and taking into account the remaining uncertainties, most of the observed warming over the last 50 years is likely to have been due to the increase in greenhouse gas concentrations, states a 2001 report by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, which advises policymakers. Furthermore, it is very likely that the 20th-century warming has contributed significantly to the observed sea level rise, through thermal expansion of seawater and widespread loss of land ice. The basics of that position are backed by the American Meteorological Society, the American Geophysical Union, the American Association for the Advancement of Science and the National Academy of Sciences. Laurie David, a co-producer of the movie, said that this is the first incident of its kind relating to the film. I am shocked that a school district would come to this decision, David said in a prepared statement. There is no opposing view to science, which is fact, and the facts are
Re: [Biofuel] Splenda Explodes Internally, Says Chemist
My drink of choice used to be Diet C. Artificial sweetners with sodium make you hold water. My intake of Diet C. has been almost entirely replace by nice cold bottled water since June. In that time frame I have lost 40lbs (250 down to 210). That fact alone should speak to the diet factor of artifical sweetners. John -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kurt Nolte Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2007 8:10 PM To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Splenda Explodes Internally, Says Chemist I personally don't like any of the Artificial sweeteners out there. If you want something sweet, you put sugar in it. If normal table sugar doesn't dissolve well, you go to finely ground confectioner's sugar. This goes for coffee, tea, cookies, cakes, candy; anything that needs sweetening gets real sugar put in it. Maybe there are, maybe there aren't hidden death-agents in the Artificial stuff; all I know is they have all shown to leave a nasty aftertaste that requires consuming incredibly strong-tasting foods to get rid of. I do, however, still drink sodas; everyone needs a vice, after all. I just don't drink any of the diet or low calorie sodas, as they tend to run heavy on the artificials and I'm active enough to burn off calories from the real thing. -Kurt Logan Vilas wrote: Not trying to be too much of a smartass, but 300 million Americans, 187 million annually =623 thousand per an American annually That's a little off somewhere. Logan Vilas -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of D. Mindock Sent: Friday, January 12, 2007 11:34 PM To: Undisclosed-Recipient:; Subject: [Biofuel] Splenda Explodes Internally, Says Chemist Splenda Explodes Internally, Says Chemist By Shane Ellison, M.Sc. Copyright 2006C _www.healthmyths.net http://www.healthmyths.net/ http://www.healthmyths.net/ _ NewsWithViews.com 1-11-7 If there were a contest for the best example of total disregard for human life, the victor would be McNeil Nutritionals---makers of Splenda^(TM). Manufacturers of Vioxx^(TM) and Lipitor^(TM) would tie for a very distant second. McNeil Nutritionals is the undisputed drug-pushing champion for disguising their drug Splenda as a sweetener. Regardless of its drug qualities and potential for side effects, McNeil is dead set on putting it on every kitchen table in America. Apparently, Vioxx and Lipitor makers can't stoop so low as to deceptively masquerade their drug as a candy of sort. There is no question that their products are drugs and by definition come with negative side effects. Rather than sell directly to the consumer, these losers have to go through the painful process of using doctors to prescribe their dangerous goods. A keen student in corporate drug dealing, McNeil learned from aspartame and saccharine pushers that if a drug tastes sweet, then let the masses eat it in their cake. First though, you have to create a facade of natural health. They did this using a cute trade name that kind of sounds like splendid and packaged it in pretty colors. Hypnotized, the masses were duped instantly. As unquestionably as a dog humps your leg, millions of diabetics (and non-diabetics) blindly eat sucralose under the trade name Splenda in place of real sugar (sucrose). Splenda was strategically released on April fool's day in 1998. This day is reserved worldwide for hoaxes and practical jokes on friends and family, the aim of which is to embarrass the gullible. McNeil certainly succeeded. The splendid Splenda hoax is costing gullible Americans $187 million annually*^1 *. While many people wonder about the safety of Splenda, they rarely question it. Despite its many unknowns and inherent dangers, Splenda demand has grown faster than its supply. No longer do I have to question my faith in fellow Man. He is not a total idiot, just a gullible one. McNeil jokesters are laughing all the way to the bank. Splenda is not as harmless as McNeil wants you to believe. A mixture of sucralose, maltodextrine, and dextrose (a detrimental simple sugar), each of the not-so-splendid Splenda ingredients has downfalls. Aside from the fact that it really isn't sugar and calorie free, here is one big reason to avoid the deceitful mix . . . think April fool's day: Splenda contains a potential poison---the drug sucralose. This chemical is 600 times sweeter than sugar. To make sucralose, chlorine is used. Chlorine has a split personality. It can be harmless or it can be life threatening. In combo with sodium, chlorine forms a harmless ionic bond to yield table salt. Sucralose makers often highlight this worthless fact to defend its safety. Apparently, they missed the second day of Chemistry 101---the day they teach covalent bonds. When used with carbon, the chlorine atom in sucralose forms a covalent bond. The end result is the historically deadly
Re: [Biofuel] What's In Your Milk?
I'm not sure what's in U.S. milk, or Canadian milk for that matter. But I live right on the border and often we get groceries in the U.S. for significant savings. But I have to share the fact that the taste of Wegman's milk is significantly different than our Canadian milk yet I'm sure our commercial factory farms do some of the same things. John -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Keith Addison Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 11:43 AM To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: [Biofuel] What's In Your Milk? http://www.world-wire.com/news/0701030001.html What's In Your Milk? An Exposé of Industry and Government Cover-Up on the DANGERS of the Genetically Engineered (rBGH) Milk You're Drinking CHICAGO, Illinois, January 3, 2007 --/WORLD-WIRE/-- Dr. Samuel S. Epstein, professor emeritus of environmental medicine at the University of Illinois at Chicago School of Public Health and world renowned author, has announced the publication of his new book, What's in Your Milk?, a powerful exposé of the dangers of Monsanto's genetically engineered (rBGH) milk, and the company's no-holds-barred conspiracy to suppress this information. rBGH (recombinant Bovine Growth Hormone) is a genetically engineered, potent variant of the natural growth hormone produced by cows. Manufactured by Monsanto, it is sold to dairy farmers under the trade name POSILAC. Injection of this hormone forces cows to increase their milk production by about 10%. Monsanto has stated that about one third of dairy cows are in herds where the hormone is used. Monsanto, supported by the Food and Drug Administration (FDA), insist that rBGH milk is indistinguishable from natural milk, and that it is safe for consumers. This is blatantly false: * rBGH makes cows sick. Monsanto has been forced to admit to about 20 toxic effects, including mastitis, on its Posilac label. * rBGH milk is contaminated by pus, due to the mastitis commonly induced by rBGH, and antibiotics used to treat the mastitis. * rBGH milk is chemically, and nutritionally different than natural milk. * Milk from cows injected with rBGH is contaminated with the hormone, traces of which are absorbed through the gut into the blood. * rBGH milk is supercharged with high levels of a natural growth factor (IGF-1), which is readily absorbed through the gut. * Excess levels of IGF-1 have been incriminated as a cause of breast, colon, and prostate cancers. * IGF-1 blocks natural defense mechanisms against early submicroscopic cancers. rBGH factory farms pose a major threat to the viability of small dairy farms. rBGH enriches Monsanto, while posing dangers, without any benefits, to consumers, especially in view of the current national surplus of milk. Of still greater concern, based on 37 published scientific studies as detailed in the book, excess levels of IGF-1 in rBGH milk pose major risks of breast, colon and prostate cancers. The introduction to What's in Your Milk? by Ben Cohen, Co-founder of Ben Jerry's Ice Cream, with a Foreword by Jeffrey M. Smith, author of the bestseller Seeds of Deception Many prominent experts in the environmental field have endorsed the new book including Congressman John Conyers, Jr., Ranking Democrat, House Judiciary Committee, Mark Achbar, Executive Producer of the multiple prize-winning documentary The Corporation, Ronnie Cummins, National Director, Organic Consumers Association, and Dr. Joseph Mercola, founder of the world's most visited natural health website. The book is a unique resource on rBGH milk. It presents Dr. Epstein's trailblazing scientific publications since 1989, which have played a major role in influencing other nations, including Canada, 24 European nations, Norway, Switzerland, Australia, New Zealand, and Japan to ban rBGH milk. The book also presents: the author's editorials and letters to major newspapers, and correspondence with the FDA, Congressman John Conyers, and other key members of Congress and the Senate. Epstein also details evidence of interlocking conflicts of interest between Monsanto and the White House, the American Medical Association and American Cancer Society. He also details evidence of Monsanto's white collar crime; the suppression and manipulation of information on the veterinary and public health dangers of rBGH milk; and evidence of Monsanto's Hit Squad, which attempted to stifle and discredit him. Of compelling interest is the story behind Fox Television's firing of Jane Akre, a veteran journalist, following her in-depth interview on rBGH with Dr. Epstein, his subsequent day-long deposition by Monsanto on her behalf, her subsequent litigation against Fox, and Fox's successful counter suit. Monsanto's corporate recklessness, compounded by FDA's complicity and refusal to require labeling of rBGH milk, more than justify the rejection of any assurances of its safety. Of further interest is the critical relevance of this information to the ongoing
Re: [Biofuel] Back to the topic...New BD stuff
Mike, The answer is yes. If it is high alloy, even better. What happens is aluminum forms an oxide on its skin and it becomes very resistant to chemical corrosion. The trick is to be sure that you let it breath the inside of the tank. It needs an oxygen fix every so often to maintain the layer. Good luck Jim - Original Message - From: Mike Weavermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@sustainablelists.orgmailto:biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2007 2:27 PM Subject: [Biofuel] Back to the topic...New BD stuff I have managed to score a 50 - 60 gallon aluminum tank with fittings - perfect for a processor. I also have a 67 gallon (looks like lucite) circular fish tank. I know MOX does not like aluminum, and have heard BD does not like Lucite or Lexan or whatever this. However, BD is fine in aluminum tanks. I am wondering if I can use the aluminum tank as a processor, being careful when introducing the MOX - I've made BD in HDPE2 containers plenty (even the stray plastic bottle way early on). So, any thoughts on the aluminum as processor and the fishtank as a wash or settling tank? -Weaver ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.orgmailto:Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.orghttp://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.htmlhttp://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Can these people be trusted with our planet?
Zeke Yewdall wrote: ZY millions of children are misled every year by secularists ZY on the law of gravity. :- ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] Rare brain worms from eating pork latest border disease
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Rare brain worms from eating pork latest border disease
www.worldnetdaily.com
Posted: January 13, 2007
1:00 a.m. Eastern
© 2007 WorldNetDaily.com
Medical professionals in South Texas have identified another disease that has
apparently slipped across the border caused by a rare brain worm that can be
fatal and is being spread by unsanitary food-handling practices.
While not yet classified as a major outbreak, several cases of
cysticercosis have been identified in South Texas, a spokesman for San
Antonio's Metro Health District told KENS-TV, San Antonio.
Magnetic resonance image showing multiple cysticerci within patient's brain
According to the Center for Disease Control, cysticercosis is an infection
caused by the pork tapeworm, Taenia solium. Infection occurs when the tapeworm
larvae are ingested, pass through the intestinal wall and enter the body to
form cysticerci, or cysts. The cysts migrate throughout the body, resulting in
symptoms that vary depending on whether they lodge in the muscles, the eyes,
the brain or spinal cord.
Symptoms for Renaldo Ramirez, 50, of Houston, began with mild headaches.
The tile worker, who immigrated to the U.S. from El Salvador 20 years ago,
told KENS-TV he had been eating most of his meals at mobile kitchens because of
the convenience, but after his ordeal with brain worms, he insisted on
preparing his own food.
He's scared now. He's scared of any food from outside, his sister, who
onterpreted for him, said.
It was a mild headache, but it wouldn't go away, Ramirez said. It was just
there and it wouldn't go away with Tylenol.
Clinic doctors gave him blood pressure medicine, but a few days later, he
passed out and did not awaken for eight days.
Dr. Aaron Mohanty, an assistant professor in the Department of Neurosurgery
at the University of Texas Medical School, found and removed a cyst caused by a
tapeworm larvae living in Ramirez's brain. Undiagnosed and untreated, he could
have died within hours.
According to the CDC, infection from the tapeworm, which is found worldwide,
occurs most often in rural, developing countries with poor hygiene where pigs
are allowed to roam freely and eat human feces. This allows the tapeworm
infection to be completed and the cycle to continue.
The risk for U.S. citizens has been considered rare due to strict food
processing and handling regulations, especially for pork products, and
generally high levels of hygiene.
The condition is very rare in Muslim countries where eating pork is
forbidden.
The cycle starts with a human that's infected with the tapeworm, said Dr.
Luis Ostrosky, of the UT Houston Medical Center. Failure to wash hands after
using the restroom can result in contaminating food and infecting further
victims.
These eggs hatch in the intestine and go through the gut-wall and into the
circulation where they get stuck somewhere, Ostrosky said.
Cysticercosis joins Morgellons disease, a mysterious infection seemingly
similar to one documented 300 years ago, in the list of new illnesses spreading
throughout South Texas.
While Morgellons disease has not been known to kill and it doesn't appear to
be contagious, WND has reported its horrible symptoms are what worry doctors.
These people will have like beads of sweat but it's black, black and tarry,
Ginger Savely, a nurse practitioner in Austin who has treated a majority of
Morgellons patients, told the San Antonio Express-News. Patients infected with
the disease get lesions that never heal.
Fibers removed from facial lesion of 3-year-old boy Sometimes little black
specks come out of the lesions and sometimes little fibers, said Stephanie
Bailey, a Morgellons patient. It's those different-colored fibers that pop out
of the skin that may be the most bizarre symptom of the disease.
More than 100 cases have been reported in South Texas.
It really has the makings of a horror movie in every way, Savely said.
The South Texas outbreak's proximity to the U.S.-Mexico border comes at a
time when the issues of illegal immigration, border security and possible
amnesty for over 12 million illegal aliens are being debated in the U.S.
Despite Morgellons disease's distinctive symptoms and patients' tales of
suffering, most of the medical community don't see the disease as real, with
some doctors telling patients it's all in their head.
Morgellons disease may remain a mystery, but cysticercosis does not. Doctors
say washing hands, cooking meats thoroughly, especially pork, and washing
fruits and vegetables are the best ways to avoid the disease.
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Re: [Biofuel] Splenda Explodes Internally, Says Chemist
whatever happened to putting honey in your tea? Jason ICQ#: 154998177 MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Kurt Nolte [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2007 7:10 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Splenda Explodes Internally, Says Chemist I personally don't like any of the Artificial sweeteners out there. If you want something sweet, you put sugar in it. If normal table sugar doesn't dissolve well, you go to finely ground confectioner's sugar. This goes for coffee, tea, cookies, cakes, candy; anything that needs sweetening gets real sugar put in it. Maybe there are, maybe there aren't hidden death-agents in the Artificial stuff; all I know is they have all shown to leave a nasty aftertaste that requires consuming incredibly strong-tasting foods to get rid of. I do, however, still drink sodas; everyone needs a vice, after all. I just don't drink any of the diet or low calorie sodas, as they tend to run heavy on the artificials and I'm active enough to burn off calories from the real thing. -Kurt Logan Vilas wrote: Not trying to be too much of a smartass, but 300 million Americans, 187 million annually =623 thousand per an American annually That's a little off somewhere. Logan Vilas -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of D. Mindock Sent: Friday, January 12, 2007 11:34 PM To: Undisclosed-Recipient:; Subject: [Biofuel] Splenda Explodes Internally, Says Chemist Splenda Explodes Internally, Says Chemist By Shane Ellison, M.Sc. Copyright 2006C _www.healthmyths.net http://www.healthmyths.net/ http://www.healthmyths.net/ _ NewsWithViews.com 1-11-7 If there were a contest for the best example of total disregard for human life, the victor would be McNeil Nutritionals---makers of Splenda^(TM). Manufacturers of Vioxx^(TM) and Lipitor^(TM) would tie for a very distant second. McNeil Nutritionals is the undisputed drug-pushing champion for disguising their drug Splenda as a sweetener. Regardless of its drug qualities and potential for side effects, McNeil is dead set on putting it on every kitchen table in America. Apparently, Vioxx and Lipitor makers can't stoop so low as to deceptively masquerade their drug as a candy of sort. There is no question that their products are drugs and by definition come with negative side effects. Rather than sell directly to the consumer, these losers have to go through the painful process of using doctors to prescribe their dangerous goods. A keen student in corporate drug dealing, McNeil learned from aspartame and saccharine pushers that if a drug tastes sweet, then let the masses eat it in their cake. First though, you have to create a facade of natural health. They did this using a cute trade name that kind of sounds like splendid and packaged it in pretty colors. Hypnotized, the masses were duped instantly. As unquestionably as a dog humps your leg, millions of diabetics (and non-diabetics) blindly eat sucralose under the trade name Splenda in place of real sugar (sucrose). Splenda was strategically released on April fool's day in 1998. This day is reserved worldwide for hoaxes and practical jokes on friends and family, the aim of which is to embarrass the gullible. McNeil certainly succeeded. The splendid Splenda hoax is costing gullible Americans $187 million annually*^1 *. While many people wonder about the safety of Splenda, they rarely question it. Despite its many unknowns and inherent dangers, Splenda demand has grown faster than its supply. No longer do I have to question my faith in fellow Man. He is not a total idiot, just a gullible one. McNeil jokesters are laughing all the way to the bank. Splenda is not as harmless as McNeil wants you to believe. A mixture of sucralose, maltodextrine, and dextrose (a detrimental simple sugar), each of the not-so-splendid Splenda ingredients has downfalls. Aside from the fact that it really isn't sugar and calorie free, here is one big reason to avoid the deceitful mix . . . think April fool's day: Splenda contains a potential poison---the drug sucralose. This chemical is 600 times sweeter than sugar. To make sucralose, chlorine is used. Chlorine has a split personality. It can be harmless or it can be life threatening. In combo with sodium, chlorine forms a harmless ionic bond to yield table salt. Sucralose makers often highlight this worthless fact to defend its safety. Apparently, they missed the second day of Chemistry 101---the day they teach covalent bonds. When used with carbon, the chlorine atom in sucralose forms a covalent bond. The end result is the historically deadly organochlorine or simply: a Really-Nasty Form of Chlorine (RNFOC). Unlike ionic bonds, covalently bound chlorines are a big no-no for the human body. They yield insecticides, pesticides, and herbicides---not something you want in the lunch box of your
Re: [Biofuel] What's In Your Milk?
Which taste do you prefer, John? Doug Woodard St. Catharines, ontario On Sat, 13 Jan 2007, John Mullan wrote: I'm not sure what's in U.S. milk, or Canadian milk for that matter. But I live right on the border and often we get groceries in the U.S. for significant savings. But I have to share the fact that the taste of Wegman's milk is significantly different than our Canadian milk yet I'm sure our commercial factory farms do some of the same things. ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
