RE: [SWCollect] Full archives are now online
I feel that the list should be public, just as it was before. You never know when someone is going to search on one of the software titles that we discuss and then contact us about it. Freddie Lucasarts Museum - http://lucasarts.vintagegaming.org -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jukka Eronen Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2004 10:17 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SWCollect] Full archives are now online I personally would like the list archives to be public. Anyone opposed to public archives? Weren't the archives already public? I've seen archive pages turn up in Google search results. Yup they show up there alright. I for one am in favor of keeping this private and old messages viewable to members only. Anything that goes to Google is eternal or at least archived anyways. When I have something more sensible / worth of archiving to say, list or anything, I'd rather publish it at web myself (Not meaning that I'd regard the quality / informational value of my mails being quite that low ;) but that's not the point. And I'm also not meaning that the general quality of the list wouldn't be good, because it is.). - Jukka -- http://koti.mbnet.fi/psychic/eng_index.html - Synchronic Web: Sierra/Lucas/Tolkien/Ultima/ADD/SSI collecting and beyond! ___ Swcollect mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://list.oldskool.org/mailman/listinfo/swcollect ___ Swcollect mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://list.oldskool.org/mailman/listinfo/swcollect
RE: [SWCollect] Best copy protection?
I had no problem duplicating the codes on the copy machine at the drugstore near my house. The second release of Maniac Mansion also came with that type of protection. http://lucasarts.vintagegaming.org/index.php?gameid=2r=2 -freddie Lucasarts Museum - http://lucasarts.vintagegaming.org -Original Message- From: Jim Leonard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, June 12, 2004 2:24 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SWCollect] Best copy protection? Marco Thorek wrote: IIRC the game came with five-symbol codes printed in black on really dark brown paper. I was lucky enough to have a BW hand scanner (remember those?) that used a red scanning beam. A bit of adjustment to the contrast, and voila -- I could reproduce those like they were black on white sheets of paper. :-) -- Jim Leonard ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) http://www.oldskool.org/ Want to help an ambitious games project? http://www.mobygames.com/ Or check out some trippy MindCandy at http://www.mindcandydvd.com/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
RE: [SWCollect] No market for Macintosh collectables?
As far as Lucasarts games go, the Macintosh versions get no respect WHATSOEVER so I wouldn't be surprised if the same mentality is at play here. Freddie Lucasarts Museum - http://lucasarts.vintagegaming.org -Original Message- From: Jim Leonard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 11, 2004 9:17 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [SWCollect] No market for Macintosh collectables? I was just amazed by this: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemcategory=51333i tem=5703687968 One bid, six games in good condition, $8? I have two questions based on this occurance: 1. Is there just no market for Macintosh software collectables? Why the hell not? 2. Along those lines, how come there's no market for Sports game collectables (any platform)? Normally I'd rack up #2 as the if it's not an adventure, it's not collectable mentality that 95% of the software collecting scene shares, but that doesn't explain #1. I'm very confused...! -- Jim Leonard ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) World's largest electronic gaming project: http://www.MobyGames.com/ A delicious slice of the demoscene: http://www.MindCandyDVD.com/ Various oldskool PC rants and ramblings: http://www.oldskool.org/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
RE: [SWCollect] Fm Towns Origin Stuff
Hi Joe I do not have these but I can get them. Of course I have to arrange a price with the seller for to pay for them and that is based on what I can then turn them around for. I can always sell the UVI and the Wing Commander on eBay. Make me an offer for the Strike Commander (or all three) so I know the ballpark on what you are willing to pay. Thanks Freddie Lucasarts Museum - http://lucasarts.vintagegaming.org -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2004 12:33 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SWCollect] Fm Towns Origin Stuff YES, Freddie! Although I have U6, and the Wing Commander one, I do *NOT* have the Strike Commander. Give me a price--I'll buy all of the Origin ones (If noone else wants them) Joe From: Freddie Bingham [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2004/06/08 Tue PM 02:04:44 EDT To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [SWCollect] Fm Towns Origin Stuff Anyone interested in any of the items pictured in the attachment? Let me know ASAP if you are. Thanks Freddie Lucasarts Museum - http://lucasarts.vintagegaming.org http://lucasarts.vintagegaming.org/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
RE: [SWCollect] Fm Towns Origin Stuff
Some Fm Towns are 486 machines. Lucasarts Museum - http://lucasarts.vintagegaming.org -Original Message- From: Jim Leonard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2004 1:29 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SWCollect] Fm Towns Origin Stuff Strike Commander runs on FM Towns? I thought the last FM Towns machine was a 386. No 386 I know can run Strike Commander effectively... Freddie Bingham wrote: Hi Joe I do not have these but I can get them. Of course I have to arrange a price with the seller for to pay for them and that is based on what I can then turn them around for. I can always sell the UVI and the Wing Commander on eBay. Make me an offer for the Strike Commander (or all three) so I know the ballpark on what you are willing to pay. Thanks Freddie Lucasarts Museum - http://lucasarts.vintagegaming.org -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2004 12:33 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SWCollect] Fm Towns Origin Stuff YES, Freddie! Although I have U6, and the Wing Commander one, I do *NOT* have the Strike Commander. Give me a price--I'll buy all of the Origin ones (If noone else wants them) Joe From: Freddie Bingham [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2004/06/08 Tue PM 02:04:44 EDT To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [SWCollect] Fm Towns Origin Stuff Anyone interested in any of the items pictured in the attachment? Let me know ASAP if you are. Thanks Freddie Lucasarts Museum - http://lucasarts.vintagegaming.org http://lucasarts.vintagegaming.org/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ -- Jim Leonard ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) World's largest electronic gaming project: http://www.MobyGames.com/ A delicious slice of the demoscene: http://www.MindCandyDVD.com/ Various oldskool PC rants and ramblings: http://www.oldskool.org/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
RE: [SWCollect] Fm Towns Origin Stuff
Yes, you can find FM Towns machines on eBay occasionally but I can always get them from Japan but s/h may be high. There are versions that look like desktops, mini towers, and there is a version that looks more like your typical console. That version would be the lightest and cheapest to ship. I don't know which versions have which processors though as I am not all that up on the actual hardware. I can fill you in on the difference that exist in the Fm Towns Lucasarts games, which can get rather expensive. Lucasarts Museum - http://lucasarts.vintagegaming.org -Original Message- From: Jim Leonard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2004 1:41 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SWCollect] Fm Towns Origin Stuff Freddie Bingham wrote: Some Fm Towns are 486 machines. Cool, I had no idea. We added FM Towns to MobyGames a few months ago -- Since FM Towns is just a 386 or 486 with a CDROM and enhanced graphics and sound, I just added FM Towns under graphics options for DOS games and FM Towns again as a sound option for DOS games. Any other differences I should know about? Do FM Towns machines themselves crop up on ebay or are otherwise available? Emulators? I would love to document some of the FM Towns-specific versions for MobyGames... -- Jim Leonard ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) World's largest electronic gaming project: http://www.MobyGames.com/ A delicious slice of the demoscene: http://www.MindCandyDVD.com/ Various oldskool PC rants and ramblings: http://www.oldskool.org/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
RE: [SWCollect] Fm Towns Origin Stuff
Yes, that is what I was referring to by the console, the Fm Towns Marty. The Fm Towns Marty 2 is the 486 version. Lucasarts Museum - http://lucasarts.vintagegaming.org -Original Message- From: Edward Franks [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2004 2:29 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SWCollect] Fm Towns Origin Stuff On Jun 8, 2004, at 3:50 PM, Freddie Bingham wrote: Yes, you can find FM Towns machines on eBay occasionally but I can always get them from Japan but s/h may be high. There are versions that look like desktops, mini towers, and there is a version that looks more like your typical console. That version would be the lightest and cheapest to ship. I don't know which versions have which processors though as I am not all that up on the actual hardware. I can fill you in on the difference that exist in the Fm Towns Lucasarts games, which can get rather expensive. I also think there is a box called Marty that will play the FM-Towns games. -- Edward Franks -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
RE: [SWCollect] Hee hee...
It sells for $10 - $25 now. The original non-Infocom version of the game just sold for $250+ on eBay and this seller is a bit confused as to what he has. Lucasarts Museum- http://lucasarts.vintagegaming.org From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, June 06, 2004 9:24 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [SWCollect] Hee hee... In a message dated 06/06/2004 11:18:06 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemcategory=51333item=5703206634rd=1Heh, this used to be a $70-80 item, but over past few years has dropped far as I know, more like $30-60 now? Could be wrong though. You ain't gonna see me bidding on this one, unless the "nickel" is made of 24K gold instead of wood...Hey they say the "only" other time this game was sold on ebay (haha), it went for $260? Without box and all the goodies? Is that a joke? What the heck are they talking about?Tom
RE: [SWCollect] Ultima III
Oh I've seen countless different Japanese Ultima Online versions when looking for other items. -freddie Lucasarts Museum- http://lucasarts.vintagegaming.org From: Stephen Emond [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, May 29, 2004 1:57 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: [SWCollect] Ultima III LOL, I never really stopped :p UO has been the source of many headaches lately... Ive found localized releases in USA, England, France, Germany, Italy, Spain, Russia, Japan, China, Korea, and Australia... Dont worry, Ill get through it all eventually ;) Steve From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, May 29, 2004 1:48 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [SWCollect] Ultima III In a message dated 05/29/2004 3:24:23 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Youre absolutely right. I would have chimed in on this one but you had it covered ;) Oh crap, here we go again, that was supposed to go to Steve only :( Oh well Steve, hopefully incentive of having book posted here will get you back on it if you can find time :)TTYL!!Tom
RE: [SWCollect] Ouch
For me, the scale is rather useless at any rate. We buy a lot of stuff on eBay and the scale has no use there, we are lucky to be able to get a half way decent condition from the seller without offending them in some way by asking detailed questions. When trading amongst ourselves I find people almost always tend to overrate what they have so having a scale is useless if it is interpreted differently. In the end, pictures are the only scale that matters to me. Lucasarts Museum - http://lucasarts.vintagegaming.org -Original Message- From: Alexander Zöller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 10, 2004 9:14 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SWCollect] Ouch Would MS indicate not only the box and contents, but also the wrap is in flawless condition? For me M(S) means the box is perfect and shrinked, while it does leave some variability for the condition of the wrap, which even if free of tears may be in lesser shape at times (store stickers, grime that has settled into the wrap, age discoloration, etc.). Alexander -Original Message- From: Hugh Falk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 10, 2004 5:27 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [SWCollect] Ouch Sorry to be anal, but that's one of my specialties :-) -- Mint sealed is MS not M(S). Hugh -Original Message- From: Alexander Zöller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 10, 2004 6:34 AM To: BL; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SWCollect] Ouch Aaargh... yes, that always makes me whince. There was an eBay auction way back in 2001 for a shrinked Kilrathi Saga, M(S). Apparently the seller was contacted by a guy urging him to check if the wrap was authentic and the game truly unopened. Not knowing what to look for, this poor chap cracked the wrap and happily added a note to his listing that, yes, everything inside was in mint condition. Alexander -Original Message- From: BL [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 10, 2004 3:21 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [SWCollect] Ouch http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=4130364298 from the auction: Note: Brand new with all the original manuals/disks/box, etc. Only came out of the shrink wrap to be photographed. According to the box it works on any Apple II or III. Doh! Not the sharpest tool in the shed... Brad - Original Message - From: Vincent Joguin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 10, 2004 4:12 AM Subject: Re: [SWCollect] YEAH-HA-HA! At 16:38 09/05/2004 -0500, you wrote: Heh, just realized, God I hope it's in English. B-) I'm almost certain it's a French version. Games are now always translated here, at least PC games, since about 1996. One of the first games for which I was forced to buy the translated version was King's Quest 7. I nearly haven't bought any PC game from France ever since (most recent is a L'Amerzone/Syberia pack). For some reason, console games are not always translated (for example Shenmue) or are multi-language. Vincent Joguin. -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ -- This message was
RE: [SWCollect] I don't like this at all...
You could stick me on that list. If I see something with a buy-it-now of $5 (that I don't need) and I know I can relist it and sell it for $60, I'll do it. Just another way to fund this ludicrous obsession of cardboard box collecting. Lucasarts Museum - http://lucasarts.vintagegaming.org -Original Message- From: Jim Leonard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 10, 2004 10:14 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SWCollect] I don't like this at all... BL wrote: In any case though, I propose we start an investigation, and over time, formulate a ever-growing list of these people and black list them so That's a bad idea. Many of them simply collect this way, or do so intentionally so that they can raise money to buy the software they've always wanted for their collection. There are many very respectful veterans of this hobby on this list and I wouldn't want any of them blacklisted just because they have or had practiced this a few times. someone is paying for it, which makes me wonder - is something worth what it's supposed to be worth, or is it worth what even 1 person is willing to pay, even if it's a lot more than that? Things are worth whatever someone is willing to pay for them. -- Jim Leonard ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) World's largest electronic gaming project: http://www.MobyGames.com/ A delicious slice of the demoscene: http://www.MindCandyDVD.com/ Various oldskool PC rants and ramblings: http://www.oldskool.org/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
RE: [SWCollect] Ouch
I still maintain the guide is confusing since you have one situation where a grade and modifier can not be used together. The highest level should simply be Mint and if sealed it gets the (S). If you insist on the Mint Sealed rating then it should be moved out of the same category as NM, F, VG, G, and ED since it does not share the same level of application. That being said NM should also be changed to have a definition that reads as near mint, i.e. Almost perfect, only the slightest blemish precludes it from being Mint. It seems to me that the biggest problem is that the scale deviates from other, much more established grading scales in use in other fields of collecting. I can not find any scales that define a near mint rating as actually being mint and this is the biggest problem I have with this list. I don't see how having shrink-wrap, means that we need a scale that deviates from other scales. I know it won't be changed but I just want to it to be known that there are others who disagree with it. Lucasarts Museum - http://lucasarts.vintagegaming.org -Original Message- From: Alexander Zöller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 10, 2004 12:31 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SWCollect] Ouch Jim Leonard wrote: Excellent. I've added it to the MobyScale, which now inches up to revision 1.03. The full permanent location of the MobyScale, as always, is http://www.mobygames.com/info/MobyScale;. Very many thanks. Back to more important topics we go ;-) Alexander -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
RE: [SWCollect] Talk about boneheads...
The seller of this auction has *never* responded to any email I have sent asking innocent questions about his auctions, hence I don't bid on them. -freddie Lucasarts Museum - http://lucasarts.vintagegaming.org -Original Message- From: Josh Lulewicz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2004 7:23 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [SWCollect] Talk about boneheads... http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=8103158348; category=4 315sspagename=STRK%3AMEBDW%3AITrd=1 rolls eyes -josh p.s. If the winner is on the list I offer no apologies... -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
[SWCollect] Journeyman Project
Anyone collect the Journeyman Project 2? I have a couple bumper stickers, circular stickers, and a patch. Lucasarts Museum- http://lucasarts.vintagegaming.org
RE: [SWCollect] Another Is this rare?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=4122998185ssPageName=ADM E:B:SS:US:1 This is the first packaging, not the later album cover gatefold later used by INFOCOM, but a box. Don't know about you, but I've never seen BUREAUCRACY in anything but a grey box release. Perhaps he actually believes there to be a Solid Gold release of every game? Well this guy either had a really bad memory or he is trying to make his items sound better than they really are. Of course, that happens in most auctions so I wouldn't hold that against him. Freddie Lucasarts Museum - http://lucasarts.vintagegaming.org -Original Message- From: Dan Chisarick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 8:53 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [SWCollect] Another Is this rare? Deluxe Edition of Wasteland??? http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ViewItemcategory=4610item=4121816523rd=1 Aside from lines like Casual collectors may wish to pass this by and each disk verified by Copy II Plus (which I'd love to know how he did that since the protection on Wasteland was the same on Strike Fleet, Legacy of the Ancients, Chuck Yeagar and Deathlord, e.g. the most brutal that I know of that EA did for the Apple). If he did a bit copy that doesn't prove anything. I'd be led to believe that the album cover came FIRST, then the box, as the last few Apple II games came in boxes (John Madden and Earl Weaver did). Thoughts? Interestingly, there's no picture :) For all I know he took the box from a different platform and stuffed in the guts from a flat pack. I have 4 copies of Wasteland, and they were relatively easy/cheap to get. Hugh? Can I get a ruling? -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
RE: [SWCollect] Is this particular version rare?????
Rare opened? Maybe 2 or 3 a year on eBay though this is only the second Apple ][ I've seen and I just won the other opened for $52. Rare sealed, even with the advertising stickers on it? Of course. Still, I think it would sell for more if it was the IBM version. I have the IBM version shrink-wrapped and since it is the same package as the Apple ][ then I probably won't bid on this. I had always assumed the Apple ][ release was the same packaging as the C64 but this shows it is not. I suppose there may be Apple or IBM releases in the same packaging as the C64 and vice versa but I have yet to see them. http://lucasarts.vintagegaming.org/maniac.php Freddie Lucasarts Museum - http://lucasarts.vintagegaming.org -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 9:51 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [SWCollect] Is this particular version rare? http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=3089791979; ssPageName=ADME:B:RECO:US:2 -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
RE: [SWCollect] Is this particular version rare?????
Does it have the same font as the box in the auction? I mean is the Maniac Mansion with meteor trails or is it the straight font like this http://lucasarts.vintagegaming.org/images/maniac/mm-1987front-small.jpg What does the copyright year say on the back? Lucasarts Museum - http://lucasarts.vintagegaming.org -Original Message- From: Jukka Eronen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 11:17 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SWCollect] Is this particular version rare? I had always assumed the Apple ][ release was the same packaging as the C64 but this shows it is not. I suppose there may be Apple or IBM releases in the same packaging as the C64 and vice versa but I have yet to see them. http://lucasarts.vintagegaming.org/maniac.php Actually my Maniac Mansion first release one-piece box is for Apple ][ so it was released in the two box types for both platforms. It has a red sticker like the auction, though didn't compare if it's exactly the same (but as said my box release is the first one). Don't know if there's IBM version in the first release box. - Jukka -- http://koti.mbnet.fi/psychic/ - Synchronic Web -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
RE: [SWCollect] Is this particular version rare?????
Its all relative to what you want and if you value sealed with original stickers to be worth more. I found the $3600 price of Drash to be about $2600 above sane. Freddie Lucasarts Museum - http://lucasarts.vintagegaming.org -Original Message- From: Jim Leonard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 3:12 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SWCollect] Is this particular version rare? Peter Olafson wrote: I don't think -any- of the versions of Maniac Mansion are rare. Apple releases are some of the rarer releases of MM, but I think the current bid price of $157 is about $57 more than sane :) -- Jim Leonard ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) World's largest electronic gaming project: http://www.MobyGames.com/ A delicious slice of the demoscene: http://www.MindCandyDVD.com/ Various oldskool PC rants and ramblings: http://www.oldskool.org/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
[SWCollect] Lucasarts Titles Wanted
Hi, I'm still looking for some Lucasarts titles, some are rare and other are common. Please see my want list and let me know if you have anything that I need. http://lucasartsvintagegaming.org/wantlist.php Thanks Freddie Lucasarts Museum- http://lucasarts.vintagegaming.org
RE: [SWCollect] Video Game Documentary tonight
My local guide shows it comes on again on the 24th, but I didn't catch the time. Freddie Lucasarts Museum - http://lucasarts.vintagegaming.org -Original Message- From: Jim Leonard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 22, 2004 2:40 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SWCollect] Video Game Documentary tonight Lee K. Seitz wrote: I, unfortunately, messed up my recording and won't be able to try again this evening. If anyone else records it, any chance I can get a copy? I'm at work! Any chance this will come on any time again? I have a ReplayTV and I'd have no problem at all recording it and putting it on the web for those who want to watch it. -- Jim Leonard ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) World's largest electronic gaming project: http://www.MobyGames.com/ A delicious slice of the demoscene: http://www.MindCandyDVD.com/ Various oldskool PC rants and ramblings: http://www.oldskool.org/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
RE: [SWCollect] Announcing the CGW Museum
Have you considered the time it would take to scan 100 magazines? :eek: Freddie Vintage Gaming - http://www.vintagegaming.org -Original Message- From: Stephane Racle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2004 1:48 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SWCollect] Announcing the CGW Museum Hehe. You may be willing to cut up my magazines, but I'm not! Well, I'd cut up duplicate issues. It probably wouldn't be too difficult for issues 25 and up, but the earlier ones can be difficult to find. I guess the options are... Stick to covers/ToC - ZD is probably less likely to notice and may not care all that much. But then, you don't get all the interesting articles! Contact ZD - High (?) chance of getting rejected, but potentially permission to scan the articles. The question is... how much does ZD care about these older magazines? Would they be willing to let someone scan/display them for free? The way I see it, this only generates interest for the magazine. However, ZD may want to make people pay. Any thoughts? Anybody know anyone at ZD? :-) Some of these early articles are extremely interesting and very well written. It really would be great to have them available. Stephane Jim Leonard wrote: Regardless of how it turns out, please make sure to provide text or text-aware file formats, like PDF that has been OCR'd, or DjVu (no OCR'd text, but separates text and background graphics and compresses each with separate algorithm for better compression, also supports progressive downloading and localized decoding which is great for modem users (they can look at a section of the page without downloading the whole thing)). As for approaching it the right way, tell ZD about your project and ask that you are willing to host the pages, do all the scanning, tell them you'll offer pages in multiple formats, etc. and that all you ask in return is permission from the company to do so. To help sweeten the deal, tell them you're willing to cut up the magazines for the best scan. Seriously. Crappy 300 DPI JPG scans that are warped because the magazine binding is still intact won't impress anyone :) However, you run a big risk of getting a cease and desist letter in return. But since you already run the risk of that, you might as well contact them right now instead of running the site for two years, building it up, and THEN getting the cease and desist letter. I wish the best of luck, I personally would love to read some of those older reviews. If/When contacting ZD, make sure you actually call people on the phone; email inquiries to generic addresses rarely get to the *right* person. Feldhamer, Stuart wrote: Hey, if you approach it the right way, they might even pay you to do it... Stuart -Original Message- *From:* Stephane Racle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Wednesday, March 17, 2004 11:49 AM *To:* swcollect *Subject:* Re: [SWCollect] Announcing the CGW Museum Doubtful I could do that without incurring the wrath of ZD... BL wrote: Great job man, looks awesome. If your ultimate plan is to have the entire mags scanned, I can't wait! Brad - Original Message - From: Stephane Racle [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: swcollect [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2004 3:01 AM Subject: [SWCollect] Announcing the CGW Museum I'm pleased to announce that my web site, the Computer Gaming World (CGW) Museum, is finally on-line! The Museum is dedicated to the preservation and presentation of all CGW items related to the time period covered by the first 100 issues of Computer Gaming World magazine. Currently there is not a whole lot of textual information available, but you will find scans of the covers of most of the first 100 issues, among other things. The goal is, of course, to expand as time allows, and all suggestions/constructive criticism/comments are welcome! Anyhow, you are all welcome to take a look! I am hoping that this will prove to be a useful resource for the vintage gaming community, as I do not believe that the information provided by the Museum is available elsewhere on the web. You will find the museum at cgw.vintagegaming.org. Many, many thanks to Freddie Bingham for hosting! Oh, and never mind the March 20th date on the news page. Amazingly, we're 3 days early... :-) Stephane --- --- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED
RE: [SWCollect] Here we go.....
Great, I've sent $12 via paypal to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Freddie -Original Message- From: Josh Lulewicz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2004 9:39 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [SWCollect] Here we go. Same with me and vintage-sierra.com :) -Original Message- From: Jim Leonard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2004 9:43 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SWCollect] Here we go. Stephane Racle wrote: On the other hand, one of the reasons I look for new items is so that I can share them with other collectors and enthusiasts, for example by making a scan, a disk image, or simply by giving out some details that weren't previously known. This is part of the rationale that created mobygames.com. -- Jim Leonard ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) World's largest electronic gaming project: http://www.MobyGames.com/ A delicious slice of the demoscene: http://www.MindCandyDVD.com/ Various oldskool PC rants and ramblings: http://www.oldskool.org/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
RE: [SWCollect] Here we go.....
Going down the fm-towns road, did you ever acquire the Fm Towns Wing Commander. I ask because I noticed you chronicle the wing commander series on your website. (see attached picture) Freddie Vintage Gaming - http://www.vintagegaming.org -Original Message- From: Edward Franks [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 15, 2004 2:52 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SWCollect] Here we go. On Mar 15, 2004, at 1:54 AM, Stephane Racle wrote: Indeed... why selling? Are you truly selling off your entire Ultima collection? No, I've kept the stuff that truly means something to me. I've still got some of the fun Ultima stuff (CPC/Progame Japanese version of Ultima, CPC Akalabet with the castle coversheet, FM-Towns U6, U6 with RG Denis Loubet signatures, the Sierra Ultima I, the Drash-sized black Ultima II, etc.). So I guess I can continue to claim membership in the Ultima rarities club. ;-) Anyway, off to sleep... -- Edward Franks -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ attachment: wingcommander.jpg
RE: [SWCollect] Here we go.....
Fm Towns -- http://assembler.roarvgm.com/FM_towns_computers/fm_towns_computers.html Vintage Gaming - http://www.vintagegaming.org From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 15, 2004 4:37 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [SWCollect] Here we go. In a message dated 03/15/2004 10:32:58 AM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Come on...I figured that much out. I was hoping for some more info, and some guy saying how the games are so much better on that platform or something like that.Well I know Towns version of UVI has voices for one. Don't have the computer so have never actually tried any of mine. Heard there is some software I could use to play the games on my IBM but the person who mentioned it never told me anymoreVisit my web page for many games for sale/trade and screen shots of Ultima Escape from Mt. Drash, Tom's Ultima, Infocom and RPG page
[SWCollect] Amiga CDTV Loom and Indiana Jones Crusade
Does anyone know the real story on these two titles? I've been told that they were produced in German but were destroyed before they were to go on sale. Now I know they exist thanks to eBay and I own Indy Crusadebut I'm trying to get a feel for just how rare they actually are. Freddie Vintage Gaming - http://www.vintagegaming.org
RE: [SWCollect] Enchanter Trilogy
Hi Hugh, I didn't see anything I was really interested in but it is moot since I've already moved it on to a new owner. Sorry! Freddie Vintage Gaming - http://www.vintagegaming.org From: Hugh Falk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2004 9:36 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: [SWCollect] Enchanter Trilogy Im interesteddid you see anything from my trade list? http://www.classicgaming.com/gotcha/trade_list.htm Hugh -Original Message-From: Freddie Bingham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2004 11:29 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [SWCollect] Enchanter Trilogy Anyone want to trade for the C64/128 Enchanter Trilogy? Pictures - http://www.babylilie.com/ebay/enchanter/ Some of the things I need are the Zork, Planetfall, and Seastalker folios along with things found on this list: http://forumsvintagegaming.org/showpost.php?p=5 Thanks Freddie Vintage Gaming - http://www.vintagegaming.org
[SWCollect] Enchanter Trilogy
Anyone want to trade for the C64/128 Enchanter Trilogy? Pictures - http://www.babylilie.com/ebay/enchanter/ Some of the things I need are the Zork, Planetfall, and Seastalker folios along with things found on this list: http://forumsvintagegaming.org/showpost.php?p=5 Thanks Freddie Vintage Gaming - http://www.vintagegaming.org
[SWCollect] Xenos
Can someone give me a general value of this game as I am not familiar with it. http://www.figmentfly.com/xenos/ Vintage Gaming - http://www.vintagegaming.org
[SWCollect] More TRS-80
What about "Monty Plays Scrabble"? Do I have junk or what. Now I expect Xenos (disk, bag, manual) has some value being a Text adventure but what I don't know.. Freddie Vintage Gaming - http://www.vintagegaming.org
RE: [SWCollect] Xenos
I assume the exception to this would be the large manual Personal Zork. Freddie Vintage Gaming - http://www.vintagegaming.org From: C.E. Forman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2004 2:16 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [SWCollect] Xenos Most of these TRS-80 large manual adventures sell for around $15 - $20. I see Xenos a lot less than the others, though. (Pyramid 2000, Bedlam, Raaka-Tu, etc.) I think when I got mine I traded what I considered to be a $30 item. - Original Message - From: Freddie Bingham To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2004 1:33 PM Subject: [SWCollect] Xenos Can someone give me a general value of this game as I am not familiar with it. http://www.figmentfly.com/xenos/ Vintage Gaming - http://www.vintagegaming.org
[SWCollect] Zork Trilogy
I guess the Zork Trilogy is as valuable as the Suspended Mask now :rolleyes: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=3081032440 .. and to think I only paid maybe $20 for a complete Zork Trilogya fewmonths ago on eBay and this one had the Zorkmid still in a little baggie.
RE: [SWCollect] Sierra/Lucas/Tolkien/Ultima/ADD/SSI - info and questions
The KIXX re-releases of the Lucasfilm games have very little value. Just $5-$10 for Maniac Mansion and Zak. I've found reports that the Enhanced Maniac Mansion contains a poster of Zak McKracken (instead of Star Wars) in the game room. I loaded the Maniac Mansion from my DOTT Tri-Box CD and it was the V1 (not enhanced), same with the Maniac Mansion on the DOTT CD in the Lucasarts Archives. I did that because I found it commonly reported that the enhanced MM debuted in DOTT. I then loaded Zak and MM from the Lucasarts Classics (from 1992) and voila there are the enhanced versions of both (As reported by SCUMMVM). I think it is rather safe to assume this is where the enhanced versions made their debut. Now if you were going to play Zak, you would still want to play the 256 color FM Towns version. Freddie -Original Message- From: Jim Leonard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2004 11:52 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SWCollect] Sierra/Lucas/Tolkien/Ultima/ADD/SSI - info and questions Freddie Bingham wrote: The hi-res version if Zak that you have is the FM Towns (Japanese PC Console) 256 color version that is playable on the SCUMM emulator. I do No, it is not. What I have is clearly a 320x200 @ 16 color version, not FM Towns 256-color version. Here is a screenshot of the low-res one most people have: http://www.mobygames.com/game/shots/p,2/gameId,305/gameShotId,8122/ ..and here is the same shot from the high-res one: http://www.mobygames.com/game/shots/p,2/gameId,305/gameShotId,3579/ And to further bake your noodle, here is a low-res original Maniac Mansion: http://www.mobygames.com/game/shots/p,2/gameId,714/gameShotId,8520/ ..and here is the high-res 16-color version: http://www.mobygames.com/game/shots/p,2/gameId,714/gameShotId,30499/ Before you start tearing your hair out, I have verified that the high-res MM was a UK release (go to MobyGames.com and look at the DOS UK release back box, it has the high-res shots on it), and the high-res Zak was a KIXX Australian release. The remaining question: Are the euro high-res versions worth more than the original ones? CURIOUS! -- Jim Leonard ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) http://www.oldskool.org/ Want to help an ambitious games project? http://www.mobygames.com/ Or check out some trippy MindCandy at http://www.mindcandydvd.com/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
RE: [SWCollect] Sierra/Lucas/Tolkien/Ultima/ADD/SSI - info and questions
The hi-res version if Zak that you have is the FM Towns (Japanese PC Console) 256 color version that is playable on the SCUMM emulator. I do own a shrinkwrapped copy of this one. I do believe the enhanced maniac mansion is the one from DOTT as it was not released on the FM Towns. Freddie -Original Message- From: Jim Leonard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2004 8:45 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SWCollect] Sierra/Lucas/Tolkien/Ultima/ADD/SSI - info and questions Freddie Bingham wrote: ** I am almost 100% certain there is no other versions of Zak I have (pirated) copies of both a Zak McKracken using the low-res SCUMM (160x200 graphics) and also redrawn high-res (320x200) graphics. Based on the file dates and times I am sure these are different releases. Anyone know more? I also have the same type of variation (also pirated) for Maniac Mansion, although I suspect that the high-res Maniac Mansion was what was embedded in Day of the Tentacle. Again, anyone have more info? -- Jim Leonard ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) http://www.oldskool.org/ Want to help an ambitious games project? http://www.mobygames.com/ Or check out some trippy MindCandy at http://www.mindcandydvd.com/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
RE: [SWCollect] LF website host for a classic gaming site
I have the ability to help so fill me in on what you have. Freddie -Original Message- From: Stephane Racle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2004 4:08 PM To: swcollect Subject: [SWCollect] LF website host for a classic gaming site Hello everyone, I'm looking for someone to host a website related to classic gaming. Yes, I know... yet another one? I'd prefer not to reveal too many details in public right now, but I can say that the information included on the site is, to my knowledge, not readily available anywhere else on the web, if it is available at all. It needs about half a gig of space. It's sitting on my hard drive right now, not quite finished, but nearly ready to go... If you have space available somewhere, or know someone who may be able to help, please send me an e-mail - I'll give you all the details. Thanks! Stephane -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
