subject:"Re\: Losing speech"

RE: losing speech--last Monday of month--early morning

2015-10-02 Thread Marc Solomon via Talk

I am running the insider preview build 10547 of Windows 10 and Window-Eyes 9.2. 
If I open the Action Center and then press Windows-M, focus does move to the 
list of shortcuts on the Desktop. But, if I arrow around, the focused 
shortcut's name is not announced only the shortcut's tooltip when it is 
displayed. If I use Windows-D instead, everything works as expected. So, Rod, I 
would recommend trying Windows-D instead of Windows-M to see if that helps. I 
will try to duplicate this issue, and if I can, will work on logging an 
official bug report.

Thanks,
Marc

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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+msolomon=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Steve Clower via Talk
Sent: Friday, October 2, 2015 8:07 AM
To: Rod Hutton <rod_hut...@hotmail.com>; Window-Eyes Discussion List 
<talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
Subject: RE: losing speech--last Monday of month--early morning

Rod,

Regarding the action center, I just went there and immediately pressed 
Windows-M. My focus was then on the desktop with no lock ups. Are you running a 
stock Windows 10 build, or have you tried the latest Insider build 10547?

Steve

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+sclower=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] On 
Behalf Of Rod Hutton via Talk
Sent: Friday, October 2, 2015 8:04 AM
To: 'Rick Thomas' <ofbgm...@mi.rr.com>; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' 
<talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
Subject: RE: losing speech--last Monday of month--early morning

Hi,

One possibility is an anti-virus scan scheduled task, and I prefer never to
allow these to run automatically.
Admittedly, since switching to Microsoft Security Essentials on my Windows 7
64 bit system and now Windows Defender on my Windows 10 64 bit system, I
haven't seen any lockups of speech, at least not out of the blue without my
touching my keyboard.
One thing I have noticed on my Windows 10 system is when I am in the 
Action center portion of the notification area and I press Windows-M to
attempt to go to my desktop icons, it is common for WE to lockup, requiring
me to press Control-Alt-W to reload, and this can take a good few seconds
before WE comes back.
To avoid this problem, I now tab out of the Action Center to go to the
icons.
Also, I did notice the other day that when my wireless keyboard loss battery
power, WE locked up and this was simply due to my trying to press keys.
When I put the new batteries into the keyboard and press Control-Alt-W, WE
came back, but isn't it interesting that this would cause a speech lockup?

I hope this helps,

Rod


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From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf
Of Rick Thomas via Talk
Sent: October 2, 2015 7:19 AM
To: 'Chris Grabowski' <cgrabow...@aisquared.com>; 'Window-Eyes Discussion
List' <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>; 'Gayle' <gbeng...@live.com>
Subject: RE: losing speech--last Monday of month--early morning

Hi: Havent followed this thread but...
If it is a web page it sounds more like the website may be performing some
maintenance on their server(s) and something is causing a problem that
WindowEyes may not be able to handle.
Websites often perform necessary maintenance on the same day of each month,
sometimes each week, and that can cause the web site or some pages to either
be down or some unexpected results to return to the browser.
It also could be, as Chris mentioned, you have something scheduled to run at
that day and time or perhaps even an app that was loaded by the vendor when
you purchassed the machine having problems like trying to call home and
waiting for a response that never comes.
These are not a WindowEyes problem but if your machine loses speech or locks
up whenever this happens due to some third party operation that, in my old
fat blind guy opinion, is a WindowEyes problem.
But, the simple approach, work-around, is do your work either earlier in the
day, later or on another day unless it is a date time critical operation.
Other than that you would have to identify, ask around this list, what
program is causing the problem and try to work-around it or deactivate it if
something you don't use anyway.
Rick USA


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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+ofbgmail=mi.rr@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Chris Grabowski via Talk
Sent: Friday, October 2, 2015 6:24 AM
To: Gayle <gbeng...@live.com>; Window-Eyes Discussion List
<talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
Subject: RE: losing speech--last Monday of month--early morning

Hi,
If it is the last Monday of the month regardless of the date, it sounds like
you have some kind of scheduled task running.
Open the task scheduler and see if there is a task set to run at that time,
what it is and stop it.

Chris

Window-Eyes Product Support
Ai Squared
725 Airport North Office Park
Fort Wayne, IN 46825
(802) 362-3612
www.aisquared.com
 

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RE: losing speech--last Monday of month--early morning

2015-10-02 Thread Chris Grabowski via Talk

Hi,
If it is the last Monday of the month regardless of the date, it sounds like 
you have some kind of scheduled task running.
Open the task scheduler and see if there is a task set to run at that time, 
what it is and stop it.

Chris

Window-Eyes Product Support
Ai Squared
725 Airport North Office Park
Fort Wayne, IN 46825
(802) 362-3612
www.aisquared.com
 

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+cgrabowski=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Gayle via Talk
Sent: Thursday, October 1, 2015 5:47 PM
To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
Subject: losing speech--last Monday of month--early morning

Hi, I'm giving you more information. I have an HP desktop computer, Windows 
Vista and WE 8.4. I have a problem with losing speech on the last Monday of the 
month in the early morning at around 4:00 a.m. central standard/daylight saving 
time. Sometimes control, alt,w doesn't work to restore speech and 
control,alt,delete won't work either for some reason. I have to do a hard reset 
and then reboot one more time. Sometimes I can't shut down the computer using 
control, alt, delete and I need to do a hard reset and reboot. Any assistance 
is greatly appreciated. Thanks much in advance for all your help. Gayle 
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RE: losing speech--last Monday of month--early morning

2015-10-02 Thread Rick Thomas via Talk

Hi: Havent followed this thread but...
If it is a web page it sounds more like the website may be performing some
maintenance on their server(s) and something is causing a problem that
WindowEyes may not be able to handle.
Websites often perform necessary maintenance on the same day of each month,
sometimes each week, and that can cause the web site or some pages to either
be down or some unexpected results to return to the browser.
It also could be, as Chris mentioned, you have something scheduled to run at
that day and time or perhaps even an app that was loaded by the vendor when
you purchassed the machine having problems like trying to call home and
waiting for a response that never comes.
These are not a WindowEyes problem but if your machine loses speech or locks
up whenever this happens due to some third party operation that, in my old
fat blind guy opinion, is a WindowEyes problem.
But, the simple approach, work-around, is do your work either earlier in the
day, later or on another day unless it is a date time critical operation.
Other than that you would have to identify, ask around this list, what
program is causing the problem and try to work-around it or deactivate it if
something you dont use anyway.
Rick USA


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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+ofbgmail=mi.rr@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Chris Grabowski via Talk
Sent: Friday, October 2, 2015 6:24 AM
To: Gayle <gbeng...@live.com>; Window-Eyes Discussion List
<talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
Subject: RE: losing speech--last Monday of month--early morning

Hi,
If it is the last Monday of the month regardless of the date, it sounds like
you have some kind of scheduled task running.
Open the task scheduler and see if there is a task set to run at that time,
what it is and stop it.

Chris

Window-Eyes Product Support
Ai Squared
725 Airport North Office Park
Fort Wayne, IN 46825
(802) 362-3612
www.aisquared.com
 

-Original Message-
From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+cgrabowski=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Gayle via Talk
Sent: Thursday, October 1, 2015 5:47 PM
To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
Subject: losing speech--last Monday of month--early morning

Hi, I'm giving you more information. I have an HP desktop computer, Windows
Vista and WE 8.4. I have a problem with losing speech on the last Monday of
the month in the early morning at around 4:00 a.m. central standard/daylight
saving time. Sometimes control, alt,w doesn't work to restore speech and
control,alt,delete won't work either for some reason. I have to do a hard
reset and then reboot one more time. Sometimes I can't shut down the
computer using control, alt, delete and I need to do a hard reset and
reboot. Any assistance is greatly appreciated. Thanks much in advance for
all your help. Gayle ___
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RE: losing speech--last Monday of month--early morning

2015-10-02 Thread Steve Clower via Talk

Rod,

Regarding the action center, I just went there and immediately pressed 
Windows-M. My focus was then on the desktop with no lock ups. Are you running a 
stock Windows 10 build, or have you tried the latest Insider build 10547?

Steve

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+sclower=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] On 
Behalf Of Rod Hutton via Talk
Sent: Friday, October 2, 2015 8:04 AM
To: 'Rick Thomas' <ofbgm...@mi.rr.com>; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' 
<talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
Subject: RE: losing speech--last Monday of month--early morning

Hi,

One possibility is an anti-virus scan scheduled task, and I prefer never to
allow these to run automatically.
Admittedly, since switching to Microsoft Security Essentials on my Windows 7
64 bit system and now Windows Defender on my Windows 10 64 bit system, I
haven't seen any lockups of speech, at least not out of the blue without my
touching my keyboard.
One thing I have noticed on my Windows 10 system is when I am in the 
Action center portion of the notification area and I press Windows-M to
attempt to go to my desktop icons, it is common for WE to lockup, requiring
me to press Control-Alt-W to reload, and this can take a good few seconds
before WE comes back.
To avoid this problem, I now tab out of the Action Center to go to the
icons.
Also, I did notice the other day that when my wireless keyboard loss battery
power, WE locked up and this was simply due to my trying to press keys.
When I put the new batteries into the keyboard and press Control-Alt-W, WE
came back, but isn't it interesting that this would cause a speech lockup?

I hope this helps,

Rod


-Original Message-
From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf
Of Rick Thomas via Talk
Sent: October 2, 2015 7:19 AM
To: 'Chris Grabowski' <cgrabow...@aisquared.com>; 'Window-Eyes Discussion
List' <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>; 'Gayle' <gbeng...@live.com>
Subject: RE: losing speech--last Monday of month--early morning

Hi: Havent followed this thread but...
If it is a web page it sounds more like the website may be performing some
maintenance on their server(s) and something is causing a problem that
WindowEyes may not be able to handle.
Websites often perform necessary maintenance on the same day of each month,
sometimes each week, and that can cause the web site or some pages to either
be down or some unexpected results to return to the browser.
It also could be, as Chris mentioned, you have something scheduled to run at
that day and time or perhaps even an app that was loaded by the vendor when
you purchassed the machine having problems like trying to call home and
waiting for a response that never comes.
These are not a WindowEyes problem but if your machine loses speech or locks
up whenever this happens due to some third party operation that, in my old
fat blind guy opinion, is a WindowEyes problem.
But, the simple approach, work-around, is do your work either earlier in the
day, later or on another day unless it is a date time critical operation.
Other than that you would have to identify, ask around this list, what
program is causing the problem and try to work-around it or deactivate it if
something you don't use anyway.
Rick USA


-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+ofbgmail=mi.rr@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Chris Grabowski via Talk
Sent: Friday, October 2, 2015 6:24 AM
To: Gayle <gbeng...@live.com>; Window-Eyes Discussion List
<talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
Subject: RE: losing speech--last Monday of month--early morning

Hi,
If it is the last Monday of the month regardless of the date, it sounds like
you have some kind of scheduled task running.
Open the task scheduler and see if there is a task set to run at that time,
what it is and stop it.

Chris

Window-Eyes Product Support
Ai Squared
725 Airport North Office Park
Fort Wayne, IN 46825
(802) 362-3612
www.aisquared.com
 

-Original Message-
From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+cgrabowski=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Gayle via Talk
Sent: Thursday, October 1, 2015 5:47 PM
To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
Subject: losing speech--last Monday of month--early morning

Hi, I'm giving you more information. I have an HP desktop computer, Windows
Vista and WE 8.4. I have a problem with losing speech on the last Monday of
the month in the early morning at around 4:00 a.m. central standard/daylight
saving time. Sometimes control, alt,w doesn't work to restore speech and
control,alt,delete won't work either for some reason. I have to do a hard
reset and then reboot one more time. Sometimes I can't shut down the
computer using control, alt, delete and I need to do a hard reset and
reboot. Any assistance is greatly appreciated. Thanks much in advance for
all your help. Gayle ___
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RE: losing speech--last Monday of month--early morning

2015-10-02 Thread Rod Hutton via Talk

Hi,

One possibility is an anti-virus scan scheduled task, and I prefer never to
allow these to run automatically.
Admittedly, since switching to Microsoft Security Essentials on my Windows 7
64 bit system and now Windows Defender on my Windows 10 64 bit system, I
haven't seen any lockups of speech, at least not out of the blue without my
touching my keyboard.
One thing I have noticed on my Windows 10 system is when I am in the 
Action center portion of the notification area and I press Windows-M to
attempt to go to my desktop icons, it is common for WE to lockup, requiring
me to press Control-Alt-W to reload, and this can take a good few seconds
before WE comes back.
To avoid this problem, I now tab out of the Action Center to go to the
icons.
Also, I did notice the other day that when my wireless keyboard loss battery
power, WE locked up and this was simply due to my trying to press keys.
When I put the new batteries into the keyboard and press Control-Alt-W, WE
came back, but isn't it interesting that this would cause a speech lockup?

I hope this helps,

Rod


-Original Message-
From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf
Of Rick Thomas via Talk
Sent: October 2, 2015 7:19 AM
To: 'Chris Grabowski' <cgrabow...@aisquared.com>; 'Window-Eyes Discussion
List' <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>; 'Gayle' <gbeng...@live.com>
Subject: RE: losing speech--last Monday of month--early morning

Hi: Havent followed this thread but...
If it is a web page it sounds more like the website may be performing some
maintenance on their server(s) and something is causing a problem that
WindowEyes may not be able to handle.
Websites often perform necessary maintenance on the same day of each month,
sometimes each week, and that can cause the web site or some pages to either
be down or some unexpected results to return to the browser.
It also could be, as Chris mentioned, you have something scheduled to run at
that day and time or perhaps even an app that was loaded by the vendor when
you purchassed the machine having problems like trying to call home and
waiting for a response that never comes.
These are not a WindowEyes problem but if your machine loses speech or locks
up whenever this happens due to some third party operation that, in my old
fat blind guy opinion, is a WindowEyes problem.
But, the simple approach, work-around, is do your work either earlier in the
day, later or on another day unless it is a date time critical operation.
Other than that you would have to identify, ask around this list, what
program is causing the problem and try to work-around it or deactivate it if
something you dont use anyway.
Rick USA


-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+ofbgmail=mi.rr@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Chris Grabowski via Talk
Sent: Friday, October 2, 2015 6:24 AM
To: Gayle <gbeng...@live.com>; Window-Eyes Discussion List
<talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
Subject: RE: losing speech--last Monday of month--early morning

Hi,
If it is the last Monday of the month regardless of the date, it sounds like
you have some kind of scheduled task running.
Open the task scheduler and see if there is a task set to run at that time,
what it is and stop it.

Chris

Window-Eyes Product Support
Ai Squared
725 Airport North Office Park
Fort Wayne, IN 46825
(802) 362-3612
www.aisquared.com
 

-Original Message-
From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+cgrabowski=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Gayle via Talk
Sent: Thursday, October 1, 2015 5:47 PM
To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
Subject: losing speech--last Monday of month--early morning

Hi, I'm giving you more information. I have an HP desktop computer, Windows
Vista and WE 8.4. I have a problem with losing speech on the last Monday of
the month in the early morning at around 4:00 a.m. central standard/daylight
saving time. Sometimes control, alt,w doesn't work to restore speech and
control,alt,delete won't work either for some reason. I have to do a hard
reset and then reboot one more time. Sometimes I can't shut down the
computer using control, alt, delete and I need to do a hard reset and
reboot. Any assistance is greatly appreciated. Thanks much in advance for
all your help. Gayle ___
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RE: losing speech--last Monday of month--early morning

2015-10-02 Thread Rod Hutton via Talk

Hi Marc,

Thanks, and thanks to Steve as well, since he noted that the most recent
Windows patch should improve performance. smile

Thanks again,

Rod

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From: Talk
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Of Marc Solomon via Talk
Sent: October 2, 2015 9:22 AM
To: Steve Clower <sclo...@aisquared.com>; Window-Eyes Discussion List
<talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
Subject: RE: losing speech--last Monday of month--early morning

I am running the insider preview build 10547 of Windows 10 and Window-Eyes
9.2. If I open the Action Center and then press Windows-M, focus does move
to the list of shortcuts on the Desktop. But, if I arrow around, the focused
shortcut's name is not announced only the shortcut's tooltip when it is
displayed. If I use Windows-D instead, everything works as expected. So,
Rod, I would recommend trying Windows-D instead of Windows-M to see if that
helps. I will try to duplicate this issue, and if I can, will work on
logging an official bug report.

Thanks,
Marc

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Of Steve Clower via Talk
Sent: Friday, October 2, 2015 8:07 AM
To: Rod Hutton <rod_hut...@hotmail.com>; Window-Eyes Discussion List
<talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
Subject: RE: losing speech--last Monday of month--early morning

Rod,

Regarding the action center, I just went there and immediately pressed
Windows-M. My focus was then on the desktop with no lock ups. Are you
running a stock Windows 10 build, or have you tried the latest Insider build
10547?

Steve

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+sclower=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com]
On Behalf Of Rod Hutton via Talk
Sent: Friday, October 2, 2015 8:04 AM
To: 'Rick Thomas' <ofbgm...@mi.rr.com>; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
<talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
Subject: RE: losing speech--last Monday of month--early morning

Hi,

One possibility is an anti-virus scan scheduled task, and I prefer never to
allow these to run automatically.
Admittedly, since switching to Microsoft Security Essentials on my Windows 7
64 bit system and now Windows Defender on my Windows 10 64 bit system, I
haven't seen any lockups of speech, at least not out of the blue without my
touching my keyboard.
One thing I have noticed on my Windows 10 system is when I am in the 
Action center portion of the notification area and I press Windows-M to
attempt to go to my desktop icons, it is common for WE to lockup, requiring
me to press Control-Alt-W to reload, and this can take a good few seconds
before WE comes back.
To avoid this problem, I now tab out of the Action Center to go to the
icons.
Also, I did notice the other day that when my wireless keyboard loss battery
power, WE locked up and this was simply due to my trying to press keys.
When I put the new batteries into the keyboard and press Control-Alt-W, WE
came back, but isn't it interesting that this would cause a speech lockup?

I hope this helps,

Rod


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From: Talk
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Of Rick Thomas via Talk
Sent: October 2, 2015 7:19 AM
To: 'Chris Grabowski' <cgrabow...@aisquared.com>; 'Window-Eyes Discussion
List' <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>; 'Gayle' <gbeng...@live.com>
Subject: RE: losing speech--last Monday of month--early morning

Hi: Havent followed this thread but...
If it is a web page it sounds more like the website may be performing some
maintenance on their server(s) and something is causing a problem that
WindowEyes may not be able to handle.
Websites often perform necessary maintenance on the same day of each month,
sometimes each week, and that can cause the web site or some pages to either
be down or some unexpected results to return to the browser.
It also could be, as Chris mentioned, you have something scheduled to run at
that day and time or perhaps even an app that was loaded by the vendor when
you purchassed the machine having problems like trying to call home and
waiting for a response that never comes.
These are not a WindowEyes problem but if your machine loses speech or locks
up whenever this happens due to some third party operation that, in my old
fat blind guy opinion, is a WindowEyes problem.
But, the simple approach, work-around, is do your work either earlier in the
day, later or on another day unless it is a date time critical operation.
Other than that you would have to identify, ask around this list, what
program is causing the problem and try to work-around it or deactivate it if
something you don't use anyway.
Rick USA


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Behalf Of Chris Grabowski via Talk
Sent: Friday, October 2, 2015 6:24 AM
To: Gayle <gbeng...@live.com>; Window-Eyes Discussion List
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Re: Losing speech

2015-10-01 Thread Lynn White via Talk

I have no doubt that it is a Windows Explorer issue. With Windows 10,
it doesn't seem to happen as much.

On 10/1/2015 8:27 AM, Mike via Talk wrote:

Hello Everyone

recently, I had an RNIB tech volunteer at my home. He kept commenting
that Windows Explorer was stopping. This seemed to coincide with
speech loss. He mentioned this four or five times in half an hour and
was extremely surprised to see it happening so frequently.

I have also lost speech with Ie 11 and very recently, I have returned
to the computer to find that speech is no longer working even though I
haven't used the computer for a couple of hours. Sleep mode is turned
off along with any other settings which might cause the machine to be
unable to respond as soon as I touch the keyboard.

Probably none of this will be of any help in identifying the problem
but speech loss seems to be getting more and more frequent.

I am using Win7 64 home premium with WE 9.2.

Mike.

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RE: Losing speech

2015-10-01 Thread Chris Grabowski via Talk

What type of computers are being used, Dell, HP, etc?
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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+cgrabowski=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Lynn White via Talk
Sent: Thursday, October 1, 2015 10:55 AM
To: Mike <kazej...@runbox.com>; Window-Eyes Discussion List 
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Subject: Re: Losing speech

I have no doubt that it is a Windows Explorer issue.  With Windows 10, it 
doesn't seem to happen as much.

On 10/1/2015 8:27 AM, Mike via Talk wrote:
> Hello Everyone
>
> recently, I had an RNIB tech volunteer at my home.  He kept commenting 
> that Windows Explorer was stopping.  This seemed to coincide with 
> speech loss.  He mentioned this four or five times in half an hour and 
> was extremely surprised to see it happening so frequently.
>
> I have also lost speech with Ie 11 and very recently, I have returned 
> to the computer to find that speech is no longer working even though I 
> haven't used the computer for a couple of hours. Sleep mode is turned 
> off along with any other settings which might cause the machine to be 
> unable to respond as soon as I touch the keyboard.
>
> Probably none of this will be of any help in identifying the problem 
> but speech loss seems to be getting more and more frequent.
>
> I am using Win7 64 home premium with WE 9.2.
>
> Mike.
>
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Re: Losing speech

2015-10-01 Thread net bat via Talk

i built mine myself. with a gigabyte  i 5 quad core with 8gb of memory, useing 
the on board audio and the video is the c p u itself.
i always lose speech when i open the bookmark list in firefox 38 esr? i have to 
turn off autoload and browse mode first then it will still talk.  if i do not 
close the bookmark list after this w e will aventually lose speech and i have 
to wait for about 1 minute to see if speech will return and then close the 
bookmark list to keep w e going.


i have lost speech with wlm 2012 if i have either firefox or i e 11 windows 7 
64bit and i alt tab from the browser back to wlm. the only way i can regain 
focus is to use restore from the ribbon then maximize the screen again. then 
speech will return.

i don't lose speech with firefox if i use narrator or nvda.

-Original Message- 
From: Chris Grabowski via Talk

Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2015 9:13 AM
To: Lynn White ; Window-Eyes Discussion List ; Mike
Subject: RE: Losing speech

What type of computers are being used, Dell, HP, etc?
Chris

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On Behalf Of Lynn White via Talk

Sent: Thursday, October 1, 2015 10:55 AM
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Subject: Re: Losing speech

I have no doubt that it is a Windows Explorer issue.  With Windows 10, it 
doesn't seem to happen as much.


On 10/1/2015 8:27 AM, Mike via Talk wrote:

Hello Everyone

recently, I had an RNIB tech volunteer at my home.  He kept commenting
that Windows Explorer was stopping.  This seemed to coincide with
speech loss.  He mentioned this four or five times in half an hour and
was extremely surprised to see it happening so frequently.

I have also lost speech with Ie 11 and very recently, I have returned
to the computer to find that speech is no longer working even though I
haven't used the computer for a couple of hours. Sleep mode is turned
off along with any other settings which might cause the machine to be
unable to respond as soon as I touch the keyboard.

Probably none of this will be of any help in identifying the problem
but speech loss seems to be getting more and more frequent.

I am using Win7 64 home premium with WE 9.2.

Mike.

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Re: Losing speech

2015-10-01 Thread Singing Sparrow via Talk

I have this happen with lenovo, and acer computers processors range from 
AMD to intell


On 10/1/2015 11:13 AM, Chris Grabowski via Talk wrote:

What type of computers are being used, Dell, HP, etc?
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-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+cgrabowski=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Lynn White via Talk
Sent: Thursday, October 1, 2015 10:55 AM
To: Mike <kazej...@runbox.com>; Window-Eyes Discussion List 
<talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
Subject: Re: Losing speech

I have no doubt that it is a Windows Explorer issue.  With Windows 10, it 
doesn't seem to happen as much.

On 10/1/2015 8:27 AM, Mike via Talk wrote:

Hello Everyone

recently, I had an RNIB tech volunteer at my home.  He kept commenting
that Windows Explorer was stopping.  This seemed to coincide with
speech loss.  He mentioned this four or five times in half an hour and
was extremely surprised to see it happening so frequently.

I have also lost speech with Ie 11 and very recently, I have returned
to the computer to find that speech is no longer working even though I
haven't used the computer for a couple of hours. Sleep mode is turned
off along with any other settings which might cause the machine to be
unable to respond as soon as I touch the keyboard.

Probably none of this will be of any help in identifying the problem
but speech loss seems to be getting more and more frequent.

I am using Win7 64 home premium with WE 9.2.

Mike.

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Re: Losing speech

2015-10-01 Thread Brice Mijares via Talk

Lenovo and HP
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To: "Lynn White" <lynnwhite...@radioforlife.info>; "Window-Eyes Discussion 
List" <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>; "Mike" <kazej...@runbox.com>

Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2015 9:13 AM
Subject: RE: Losing speech

What type of computers are being used, Dell, HP, etc?
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-Original Message-
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[mailto:talk-bounces+cgrabowski=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] On 
Behalf Of Lynn White via Talk

Sent: Thursday, October 1, 2015 10:55 AM
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Subject: Re: Losing speech

I have no doubt that it is a Windows Explorer issue.  With Windows 10, it 
doesn't seem to happen as much.

On 10/1/2015 8:27 AM, Mike via Talk wrote:

Hello Everyone

recently, I had an RNIB tech volunteer at my home.  He kept commenting
that Windows Explorer was stopping.  This seemed to coincide with
speech loss.  He mentioned this four or five times in half an hour and
was extremely surprised to see it happening so frequently.

I have also lost speech with Ie 11 and very recently, I have returned
to the computer to find that speech is no longer working even though I
haven't used the computer for a couple of hours. Sleep mode is turned
off along with any other settings which might cause the machine to be
unable to respond as soon as I touch the keyboard.

Probably none of this will be of any help in identifying the problem
but speech loss seems to be getting more and more frequent.

I am using Win7 64 home premium with WE 9.2.

Mike.

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RE: Losing speech

2015-10-01 Thread Smith, Veronica via Talk

Mine is a Lenova Laptop

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On Behalf Of Chris Grabowski via Talk
Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2015 10:13 AM
To: Lynn White; Window-Eyes Discussion List; Mike
Subject: RE: Losing speech

What type of computers are being used, Dell, HP, etc?
Chris

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-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+cgrabowski=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Lynn White via Talk
Sent: Thursday, October 1, 2015 10:55 AM
To: Mike <kazej...@runbox.com>; Window-Eyes Discussion List 
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Subject: Re: Losing speech

I have no doubt that it is a Windows Explorer issue.  With Windows 10, it 
doesn't seem to happen as much.

On 10/1/2015 8:27 AM, Mike via Talk wrote:
> Hello Everyone
>
> recently, I had an RNIB tech volunteer at my home.  He kept commenting 
> that Windows Explorer was stopping.  This seemed to coincide with 
> speech loss.  He mentioned this four or five times in half an hour and 
> was extremely surprised to see it happening so frequently.
>
> I have also lost speech with Ie 11 and very recently, I have returned 
> to the computer to find that speech is no longer working even though I 
> haven't used the computer for a couple of hours. Sleep mode is turned 
> off along with any other settings which might cause the machine to be 
> unable to respond as soon as I touch the keyboard.
>
> Probably none of this will be of any help in identifying the problem 
> but speech loss seems to be getting more and more frequent.
>
> I am using Win7 64 home premium with WE 9.2.
>
> Mike.
>
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RE: Losing speech

2015-10-01 Thread Rick Thomas via Talk

Hi Chris;
I have a Dell Optiplex 8 gig ram i7 intel processor.
I lose speech a few times a day and especially if I am switching between
applications too fast and try to navigate before I hear WindowEyes
responding.
That said, sometimes it just goes dead.
I just turned off sleep mode since that can cause anything saved in ram
memory to get lost when the machine wakes up and if WE has anything stored
in ram, very likely, that may be the source of one set of problems.
Thats all I have on this particular problem.
Rick USA

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Sent: Thursday, October 1, 2015 12:13 PM
To: Lynn White <lynnwhite...@radioforlife.info>; Window-Eyes Discussion List
<talk@lists.window-eyes.com>; Mike <kazej...@runbox.com>
Subject: RE: Losing speech

What type of computers are being used, Dell, HP, etc?
Chris

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Sent: Thursday, October 1, 2015 10:55 AM
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Subject: Re: Losing speech

I have no doubt that it is a Windows Explorer issue.  With Windows 10, it
doesn't seem to happen as much.

On 10/1/2015 8:27 AM, Mike via Talk wrote:
> Hello Everyone
>
> recently, I had an RNIB tech volunteer at my home.  He kept commenting 
> that Windows Explorer was stopping.  This seemed to coincide with 
> speech loss.  He mentioned this four or five times in half an hour and 
> was extremely surprised to see it happening so frequently.
>
> I have also lost speech with Ie 11 and very recently, I have returned 
> to the computer to find that speech is no longer working even though I 
> haven't used the computer for a couple of hours. Sleep mode is turned 
> off along with any other settings which might cause the machine to be 
> unable to respond as soon as I touch the keyboard.
>
> Probably none of this will be of any help in identifying the problem 
> but speech loss seems to be getting more and more frequent.
>
> I am using Win7 64 home premium with WE 9.2.
>
> Mike.
>
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Re: Losing speech

2015-10-01 Thread Loy via Talk

I just had an instance where I lost speech and IE 11 stopped when I was on 
the Chase.com web site, making an online payment.I had to log off and when I 
started up IE again, it said that my last session had unexpectedly stopped 
and did I want to start it again.  I got no WE error. So, I think in this 
instance it was an IE 11 problem or a chase site problem.
- Original Message - 
From: "Lynn White via Talk" <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
To: "Mike" <kazej...@runbox.com>; "Window-Eyes Discussion List" 
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Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2015 10:54 AM
Subject: Re: Losing speech

I have no doubt that it is a Windows Explorer issue.  With Windows 10, it 
doesn't seem to happen as much.

On 10/1/2015 8:27 AM, Mike via Talk wrote:

Hello Everyone

recently, I had an RNIB tech volunteer at my home.  He kept commenting 
that Windows Explorer was stopping.  This seemed to coincide with speech 
loss.  He mentioned this four or five times in half an hour and was 
extremely surprised to see it happening so frequently.

I have also lost speech with Ie 11 and very recently, I have returned to 
the computer to find that speech is no longer working even though I 
haven't used the computer for a couple of hours. Sleep mode is turned off 
along with any other settings which might cause the machine to be unable 
to respond as soon as I touch the keyboard.

Probably none of this will be of any help in identifying the problem but 
speech loss seems to be getting more and more frequent.

I am using Win7 64 home premium with WE 9.2.

Mike.

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Re: Losing speech

2015-10-01 Thread tchild via Talk

I'm using a Del with windows 8.1 and WE 9.2

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From: Singing Sparrow via Talk

Sent: Thursday, October 1, 2015 11:15 AM
To: Chris Grabowski ; Window-Eyes Discussion List ; Lynn White ; Mike
Subject: Re: Losing speech

I have this happen with lenovo, and acer computers processors range from
AMD to intell

On 10/1/2015 11:13 AM, Chris Grabowski via Talk wrote:

What type of computers are being used, Dell, HP, etc?
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Behalf Of Lynn White via Talk

Sent: Thursday, October 1, 2015 10:55 AM
To: Mike <kazej...@runbox.com>; Window-Eyes Discussion List 
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Subject: Re: Losing speech

I have no doubt that it is a Windows Explorer issue.  With Windows 10, it 
doesn't seem to happen as much.

On 10/1/2015 8:27 AM, Mike via Talk wrote:

Hello Everyone

recently, I had an RNIB tech volunteer at my home.  He kept commenting
that Windows Explorer was stopping.  This seemed to coincide with
speech loss.  He mentioned this four or five times in half an hour and
was extremely surprised to see it happening so frequently.

I have also lost speech with Ie 11 and very recently, I have returned
to the computer to find that speech is no longer working even though I
haven't used the computer for a couple of hours. Sleep mode is turned
off along with any other settings which might cause the machine to be
unable to respond as soon as I touch the keyboard.

Probably none of this will be of any help in identifying the problem
but speech loss seems to be getting more and more frequent.

I am using Win7 64 home premium with WE 9.2.

Mike.

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RE: losing speech--last Monday of month--early morning

2015-10-01 Thread Rod Hutton via Talk

Hi Gayle,

Control-Alt-W won't reload WE 8.4, since that hot key will only relaunch WE
in versions later than 8.4.
With WE 8.4, you must use Control-Insert-F4, which then pops up a prompt
with the default button of Ok, requiring you to then press Enter to close
WE.
At that point, Control-Alt-W will reload WE.

I hope this helps,

Rod

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Sent: October 1, 2015 5:47 PM
To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
Subject: losing speech--last Monday of month--early morning

Hi, I'm giving you more information. I have an HP desktop computer, Windows
Vista and WE 8.4. I have a problem with losing speech on the last Monday of
the month in the early morning at around 4:00 a.m. central standard/daylight
saving time. Sometimes control, alt,w doesn't work to restore speech and
control,alt,delete won't work either for some reason. I have to do a hard
reset and then reboot one more time. Sometimes I can't shut down the
computer using control, alt, delete and I need to do a hard reset and
reboot. Any assistance is greatly appreciated. Thanks much in advance for
all your help. Gayle  
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Re: Losing speech

2015-10-01 Thread manny via Talk


Hi Chris,
I have encountered losing speech with the following:
Dell xps 420 windows 7, windows 8.1, and windows10 intel q6600 quad core
Toshiba Satellite windows 7 intel dual core 8gb ram
hp
HP ENVY QUAD 15T-J100 NOTEBOOKwindows 7 intel i7 with 2gb nvidia 
graphics memory and 8 gb ram

e-machine 8gb ram with windows 7



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computer specifications: Window Eyes 8.4, Dell xps420 Windows 7 home 
premium, with dual boot to windows 8.1, with start8 from: 
www.stardock.com with 8 gb RAM, Intel q6600 quad core drivers and 
software updated software recommended: Firefox, Thunderbird, security: 
Microsoft security essential, Malware Bytes pro, Win Patrol, Roboform,

On 10/1/2015 11:13 AM, tchild via Talk wrote:

I'm using a Del with windows 8.1 and WE 9.2

-Original Message- From: Singing Sparrow via Talk
Sent: Thursday, October 1, 2015 11:15 AM
To: Chris Grabowski ; Window-Eyes Discussion List ; Lynn White ; Mike
Subject: Re: Losing speech

I have this happen with lenovo, and acer computers processors range from
AMD to intell

On 10/1/2015 11:13 AM, Chris Grabowski via Talk wrote:

What type of computers are being used, Dell, HP, etc?
Chris

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On Behalf Of Lynn White via Talk

Sent: Thursday, October 1, 2015 10:55 AM
To: Mike <kazej...@runbox.com>; Window-Eyes Discussion List 
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Subject: Re: Losing speech

I have no doubt that it is a Windows Explorer issue.  With Windows 
10, it doesn't seem to happen as much.


On 10/1/2015 8:27 AM, Mike via Talk wrote:

Hello Everyone

recently, I had an RNIB tech volunteer at my home.  He kept commenting
that Windows Explorer was stopping.  This seemed to coincide with
speech loss.  He mentioned this four or five times in half an hour and
was extremely surprised to see it happening so frequently.

I have also lost speech with Ie 11 and very recently, I have returned
to the computer to find that speech is no longer working even though I
haven't used the computer for a couple of hours. Sleep mode is turned
off along with any other settings which might cause the machine to be
unable to respond as soon as I touch the keyboard.

Probably none of this will be of any help in identifying the problem
but speech loss seems to be getting more and more frequent.

I am using Win7 64 home premium with WE 9.2.

Mike.

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Re: Losing speech

2015-10-01 Thread via Talk

Hello Chris,

using an older HP 7700, with 6 GB of RAM, Win 7 Pro, and WE 9.2
Deul Core 3.4 Intel CPU.  

on board Video and Sound.  

Dave


-- 
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RE: Losing speech in IE11

2015-09-08 Thread Rick Thomas via Talk

Hi: This just happened to me as well. 
I ReStarted WindowEyes and was able to exit IE 11 and continue working in
another program.
In that program some of the WindowEyes operations like tabbing and arrow
keys worked ok.
The ReadToEnd did not work at all.
I then attempted to go into Outlook and open one of Rods messages.
It said "Plain Text" then the arrow keys and tab keys just said bing bing.
I tried to route the mouse but WE saidcouldnt route mouse to window and
trying a second time we couldn't route mouse to tool tip.
I fired up narrator again and it only read some http link address when I
tried to tab around the e-mail content.
I then exited Outlook and ReBooted the computer.
WindowEyes then came up as usual and ReReading Rods message it was not plain
text but had links in it as 99 percent of e-mails do.
This tells me there is a problem with WindowEyes and whatever scripts or
logic they use when, at least, attempting to determine whether to use the
browser style or plain text style of reading e-mails after WindowEyes goes
down once and that ReInitializing WindowEyes does not restore these scripts
or logic blocks - WindowEyes really does not do a cold Restart but only some
partial Restart or ignores features it thinks are already working even if
they have died.
Rick USA

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Behalf Of Mike via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, September 8, 2015 10:42 AM
To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
Subject: Losing speech in IE11

Hello Folks

Like many others on the list, I have been losing speech with 9.2 and 
Ie11.  I have just made repeated attempts to read a couple of pages 
on Sainsburys.co.uk mobile Site but speech has stopped every time.

Well, in exasperation, I decided to try Google Chrome.  I managed to 
read both of the pages with out any loss of speech and everything 
seemed much more responsive.  Google Chrome may not be for everyone 
but, so far at least, it hasn't  frozen or lost speech.  I shall be 
using it a lot more in the future because I have better things to do 
with my time than keep rebooting because of speech stopping over and 
over again.

Mike.

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