Re: [Talk-hr] Dopisi firmama za slobodno koristenje njihovih podataka
hbogner wrote: OK, jel netko pisao kakav dopis u tom smislu? Treba mi mala pomoc oko toga jer kolege rade u nekim firmama i spremni su pomoci oko toga ali treba nam nesto na pismeno. Da se vratimo na tu temu. Imam usmeno dopustenje za koristenje podataka, ali nekako mislim da to nije dovoljno. Kaj mi tocno treba da bi to mogao koristiti? Kaj mi oni trebaju napisati ili kaj vec... ? ___ Talk-hr mailing list Talk-hr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-hr
Re: [Talk-hr] Transformacija OSM podataka u HDKS
Zoran Jankovic wrote: Pozdrav svima, Eto, znam da je ovo malo offtopic za OSM mailing listu, ali ima veze s OSM podacima... Dakle, koristim QGIS, nisam novi u GIS-u, niti geodeziji, dipl. inž. s10 godina radnog iskustva, etc, etc... QGIS ima zgodan plugin za skidanje OSM podataka uživo, što sam ja htio iskoristiti za preklapanje s nekim katastarskim podacima, između ostalog. U najnovijim verzijama, a upravo treba izaći 1.4.0, od moje malenkosti djelomično prevedena na hrvatski ;-)) podržava i tzv. on the fly reprojiciranje, odnosno može prikazivati u istom prostoru podatke iz različitih CRS-ova, dokle god su ti CRS-ovi ispravno definirani. Za to se naslanja na PROJ4. Usprkos svemu nisam uspio dobiti odgovarajući preklop katastra (GK projekcija,6 zona, službeni DGU parametri za županiju) i OSM podataka (WGS84). razlika je oko 120 metara prema jugu, u najboljem slučaju. Jedino što mi pada na pamet da towgs84parametriu PROJ4 stringu imaju neki drugi redoslijed od (dx, dy, dz, rx, ry, rz, s), ali nisam uspio iskopati dokumentaciju koja bi to specificirala... Radim li samo s podacima u WGS84, pa i s onima koje sam prikupio na terenu (imam GPS koji omogućava odabir kood. sustava za export) preklop odgovara, unutar točnosti navigacijskih GPS-a. Uređaj s kojim snimam također treba ručno podesiti kako bi preračunavao koordinate u lokalnu projekciju, koristim iste parametre kao i u QGIS-ui takvih sam uređaja podesio već desetke - svi snimaju bez problema... Ima li netko iskustva sa sličnim stvarima? (Pokušao sam već i s promjenom predznaka parametara :-)) --- Zoran Jankovic ZIS-Izrada softvera i savjetovanje / ZIS - Software Development and Consulting http://www.zisis.hr M: 00 385 98 682 902 T: 00 385 44 683 374 A. Senoe 4 44320 Kutina Croatia Ja koristim Global mapper i normalno transformiram GK5 i GK5 u WGS84 te obrnuto. A koji su parametri, e to je malo teze pitanje, frend mi ih je slozio a ja se nesjecam di sam ih spremio, trebam alo pretraziti postavke tog programa. Imas set podataka za probu da ja probam? ___ Talk-hr mailing list Talk-hr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-hr
Re: [talk-ph] Gensan Google Mapping Party
Eugene Alvin Villar wrote, On Thursday, 14 January, 2010 12:07 AM: Keep us posted! Hopefully we can have IGaCoS as the most-mapped Philippine resort island in OSM after Boracay and Malapascua Islands. :-) Erm ... was that aimed at me? ... Its purely co-incidental that all my mapping efforts take place in tropical paradises ... :-) Yes General Santos is definitely looking a bit sad on OSM next to Davao ... I did what I could from the satellite images, but Google is unfortunately way ahead in that department. Should be in Dumaguete later this year. Will do some more there ... Jim -- datalude: information security e: j...@datalude.com Philippines: +63 2 403 1311 / mob: +63 920 912 5830 Hong Kong: +852 6840 6693 w: http://www.datalude.com/ ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
[OSM-talk-be] RailRoad
Hello, I'm using OSM a lot since two year, and I think is time to jump in and help making it even better. I saw that railroad for belgium is good, but not complete. I'm currently working at Infrabel and for my job, I have access to infrastructure database with a lot of information that could be usefull for OSM Of course, I will not give anything out without explicite acknowlgement from Infrabel. Could you give me more informations on which data could be ussefull for OSM. I could then see where I can get the information from and see how I can get the permission from Infrabel to publish those! Also, if some persoon already have contact with people in Infrabel, it could be usefull that I contact then. Hoping I will be able to help. Loic Froidmont ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [OSM-talk-be] RailRoad
That would be great! The information we could use is primarily the locations of railway stations and the exact traces of railways. Also exact traces within big railway stations might be handy... Gpx files would be easiest, but SHP files or some other GIS data format is also feasable. It's nice to have some-one asking the information from the inside. I wish we had some-one like for de lijn, Tec etc Kenny 2010/1/14 Loïc Froidmont lfroi...@gmail.com Hello, I'm using OSM a lot since two year, and I think is time to jump in and help making it even better. I saw that railroad for belgium is good, but not complete. I'm currently working at Infrabel and for my job, I have access to infrastructure database with a lot of information that could be usefull for OSM Of course, I will not give anything out without explicite acknowlgement from Infrabel. Could you give me more informations on which data could be ussefull for OSM. I could then see where I can get the information from and see how I can get the permission from Infrabel to publish those! Also, if some persoon already have contact with people in Infrabel, it could be usefull that I contact then. Hoping I will be able to help. Loic Froidmont ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [OSM-talk-be] RailRoad
It might also be interesting to follow up changes. Frequently minor railway crossings are removed, sometimes new parallel roads are constructed to a nearby crossing. As this happens most often on the smallest, rarely used crossings they might stay unnoticed by mappers, even if they are published in the 'staatsblad' that everyone is supposed to read every morning at breakfast... Luc / Speedy On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 9:50 AM, Kenny Knecht kenny.kne...@gmail.comwrote: That would be great! The information we could use is primarily the locations of railway stations and the exact traces of railways. Also exact traces within big railway stations might be handy... Gpx files would be easiest, but SHP files or some other GIS data format is also feasable. It's nice to have some-one asking the information from the inside. I wish we had some-one like for de lijn, Tec etc Kenny 2010/1/14 Loïc Froidmont lfroi...@gmail.com Hello, I'm using OSM a lot since two year, and I think is time to jump in and help making it even better. I saw that railroad for belgium is good, but not complete. I'm currently working at Infrabel and for my job, I have access to infrastructure database with a lot of information that could be usefull for OSM Of course, I will not give anything out without explicite acknowlgement from Infrabel. Could you give me more informations on which data could be ussefull for OSM. I could then see where I can get the information from and see how I can get the permission from Infrabel to publish those! Also, if some persoon already have contact with people in Infrabel, it could be usefull that I contact then. Hoping I will be able to help. Loic Froidmont ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [OSM-talk-be] GPX-bestand valideren
Karel, hier heb je een schema file http://www.topografix.com/gpx/1/1/gpx.xsd voor gpx. Er zijn honderden tools out there om een xml file te valideren aan de hand van een schema file. Succes! kenny Op 13 januari 2010 23:22 schreef Luc Van den Troost luc.a...@gmail.com het volgende: Dag Karel, Bijna bedtijd, maar nog even kort. Ik heb ook wel eens aangepaste / geknutselde gpx bestanden geupload die soms niet werkten bij import. Alleen kreeg ik dan wel telkens een nette foutmelding met omschrijving van de reden van niet-verwerking. mogelijke fouten - die ik zelf al tegenkwam - - foute of onvolledige header van het bestand - geen timestamps bij de posities. maakt de xml niet fout, maar osm verwacht bij elke positie wel een timestamp. Als je geen foutmelding krijgt loopt de verwerking misschien wat stroef. Staan er soms nog massa's files in de wachtrij?? Ik ga de ogen sluiten nu. Succes ermee. Luc On Wed, 2010-01-13 at 22:09 +, Karel Adams wrote: Ik ben aan het knutselen aan eigen GPS-software en wil daarvan ook de log-tracks kunnen opladen naar OSM. Dus heb ik een conversie-utility geschreven (bash-script van een kleine bladzijde) maar helaas: Als ik zo'n zelfgebreid gpx-bestand opstuur dan wordt het vermeld als bezig maar een paar minuten later is er niks meer van te zien. Ik veronderstel dus dat er iets mankeert aan de opmaak maar hoe vind ik uit wat? Is er ergens een utility te vinden om te checken wat er mankeert aan een .gpx-bestand? Ik vind het ook lastig dat ik geen feedback krijg, of moet ik misschien wat meer geduld hebben? 'k Heb nu al drie pogingen gedaan het laatste halfuur, pfff... Dank bij voorbaat! ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [OSM-talk-be] RailRoad
Orwall had a dataset with all railway lines at one point (see wiki: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Belgium/Railways#Potential_datasets), but seems to have disappeared. It might be useful to follow-up on that. As said, a file with all railroads would be a good start. Stations, level crossings, etc. would also be useful, but I assume less critical. Best regards, Dennis a.k.a. Gyrbo - Oorspronkelijk bericht - Van : Loïc Froidmont [mailto:lfroi...@gmail.com] Verzonden : donderdag , januari 14, 2010 09:29 AM Aan : talk-be@openstreetmap.org Onderwerp : [OSM-talk-be] RailRoad Hello, I'm using OSM a lot since two year, and I think is time to jump in and help making it even better. I saw that railroad for belgium is good, but not complete. I'm currently working at Infrabel and for my job, I have access to infrastructure database with a lot of information that could be usefull for OSM Of course, I will not give anything out without explicite acknowlgement from Infrabel. Could you give me more informations on which data could be ussefull for OSM. I could then see where I can get the information from and see how I can get the permission from Infrabel to publish those! Also, if some persoon already have contact with people in Infrabel, it could be usefull that I contact then. Hoping I will be able to help. Loic Froidmont ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
[OSM-talk-be] GPX valideren (bis)
Dank aan allen voor het meedenken, probleem is van de baan. Diagnose gesteld gewoon door te openen met een webbrowser die probeerde de XML te analyseren. Foutje was met de aanhalingstekens, da's altijd een delicaat punt in shell-scripts... Kenny, sorry hoor maar in plaats van te zeggen dat er honderden bestaan out there (of waar dan ook) had ge er beter één kunnen noemen... Vreemd vind ik wel dat er totaal geen meldingen kwamen, misschien moet ik mijn account eens nakijken? ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [OSM-talk-be] GPX valideren (bis)
Ik weet niet welk operating systeem je hebt (Linux, windows, apple) vandaar da'k me niet aan concrete aanbevelingen gewaagd hebt ik gebruik daar de gratis versie van visual studio voor, maar een goeie browser kan dat eigenlijk ook wel denk ik. Op 14 januari 2010 11:30 schreef Karel Adams ade...@skynet.be het volgende: Dank aan allen voor het meedenken, probleem is van de baan. Diagnose gesteld gewoon door te openen met een webbrowser die probeerde de XML te analyseren. Foutje was met de aanhalingstekens, da's altijd een delicaat punt in shell-scripts... Kenny, sorry hoor maar in plaats van te zeggen dat er honderden bestaan out there (of waar dan ook) had ge er beter één kunnen noemen... Vreemd vind ik wel dat er totaal geen meldingen kwamen, misschien moet ik mijn account eens nakijken? ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [OSM-talk-be] GPX valideren (bis)
Karel Adams wrote: Dank aan allen voor het meedenken, probleem is van de baan. Diagnose gesteld gewoon door te openen met een webbrowser die probeerde de XML te analyseren. Foutje was met de aanhalingstekens, da's altijd een delicaat punt in shell-scripts... Geen idee van welk formaat je wou converteren naar gpx, maar was het niet mogelijk om gpsbabel te gebruiken i.p.v. een eigen script te schrijven? http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Gpsbabel Ben ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
[OSM-talk-be] POI-tags in PotLatch
De mogelijkheid om vanuit PotLatch POI's te taggen leek mij een fraaie vooruitgang, en met groot entoesiasme heb ik bv. het vliegveldje van Amougies zo aangeduid. Maar nu zie ik dat deze tag niet wordt weergegeven tenzij in PotLatch zelf? Bovendien zijn de tags erg beperkt; en voor de luchthave van Oostende-Middelkerke zie ik een veel uitgebreidere. Mis ik iets in PotLatch, of is er een andere manier om luchthavens te taggen? Vanuit JOSM, misschien? ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [OSM-talk-be] POI-tags in PotLatch
Karel Adams wrote: De mogelijkheid om vanuit PotLatch POI's te taggen leek mij een fraaie vooruitgang, en met groot entoesiasme heb ik bv. het vliegveldje van Amougies zo aangeduid. Maar nu zie ik dat deze tag niet wordt weergegeven tenzij in PotLatch zelf? Bovendien zijn de tags erg beperkt; en voor de luchthave van Oostende-Middelkerke zie ik een veel uitgebreidere. Mis ik iets in PotLatch, of is er een andere manier om luchthavens te taggen? Vanuit JOSM, misschien? Die icoontjes met POI's in Potlatch zijn lang niet voldoende om alles te mappen tot in alle details. Meestal ga je dus in de wiki moeten kijken naar welke tags er allemaal horen te staan (of zouden kunnen staan), en dus ga je die er handmatig moeten bijzetten. De presets in JOSM zijn iets uitgebreider, maar ook daar denk ik dat je best de wiki erbij neemt. Nu, over de luchthavens: ik vraag me af of die amenity=airport die potlatch er wil opzetten als tag sowieso wel bestaat. Als er een node staat, wordt die met aeroway=aerodrome (vroeger was ook de tag place=airport gebruikelijk) http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Airports Ben ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
[OSM-talk] Features to map for Haiti emergency
Dear all, is there anybody mapping Hospitals, Police stations, governament bdgs, UN bdgs and other logisitic information? Is any souce of data available for this? S On Jan 14, 2010, at 8:52 AM, Frederik Ramm wrote: Mikel, Mikel Maron wrote: Thanks Frederik ... no one that I know of has started on this ... Let us know how it goes, several groups interested already http://labs.geofabrik.de/haiti/ Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09 E008°23'33 ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] TED Conference (was: Google Map Maker on TED)
Lars Francke wrote: Unfortunately I haven't heard anyone mention OSM yet but I hope that will change at some point. The next TED conference is starting in February. Tim Berners-Lee did mention OSM in his talk on the next Web: http://www.ted.com/talks/lang/eng/tim_berners_lee_on_the_next_web.html Cheers, /Seb. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Field Requirements from Haiti for spatial imagery-based work (processing digitizing): NEED to map any spontaneous camps appearing in the imagery with size in area
Mikel Maron wrote: Details are still emerging but apparently Digital Globe is making available pre- and post- event imagery, tomorrow. There are other sources in the pipeline. GeoEye has half-meter post-earthquake imagery, but they don't mention any public availability. A sample, including a high resolution version is featured at http://www.geoeye.com/CorpSite/gallery/detail.aspx?iid=287gid=1 ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Field Requirements from Haiti for spatial imagery-based work (processing digitizing): NEED to map any spontaneous camps appearing in the imagery with size in area
Mikel Maron wrote: Details are still emerging but apparently Digital Globe is making available pre- and post- event imagery, tomorrow. There are other sources in the pipeline. I asked Spot Image : they don't mention the earthquake on their site, so who knows - why no ask ? Below is the text of the message I sent the using their contact form : The OpenStreetMap project is currently contributing mapping to help Haiti relief efforts. : http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Haiti#2010_Earthquake_Response Here is the state of our map of Port-Au-Prince - http://osm.org/go/YeSWSf4 We need post-quake imagery to provide the necessary maps to the emergency responders. Would you provide images on a pro-bono humanitarian basis ? This would provide a great opportunity for Spot Image to show public benevolence and benefit from the resulting goodwill. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Field Requirements from Haiti for spatial imagery-based work (processing digitizing): NEED to map any spontaneous camps appearing in the imagery with size in area
On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 1:27 AM, Mikel Maron mikel_ma...@yahoo.com wrote: Details are still emerging but apparently Digital Globe is making available pre- and post- event imagery, tomorrow. There are other sources in the pipeline. I'm of course pushing to make sure that we have full rights to derive vectors from these sources. Digital Globe made the Philippines imagery available for us after the floods there[1]. It's worth noting that a lot of the imagery was mis-rectified, but usually by less than 100m. We had sufficient GPS traces to align major roads correctly, but I don't know if we'll have that in Haiti. If this becomes available, then this is certainly the kind of thing we can look for in the imagery. If you need quick turnaround on getting imagery into Potlatch, I can help. Cheers, Andy [1] http://www.gravitystorm.co.uk/shine/archives/2009/12/09/the-view-from-above/ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] ?
Scusate ma come funziona? Ho bisogno di info per la georeferenziazione di foto all'interno di un percorso GPS gia' georeferenziato (da me) dove trovo istruzioni? Grazie -- SARA SUSINI, PhD LINEE Laboratory of INformation-tech for Earth and Environment Universita' degli Studi di Urbino Carlo Bo Campus Scientifico - 61029 Urbino - Italia Tel. Fax.: (int.+) 0722.304295 - ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] ?
sara susini wrote: Scusate ma come funziona? Ho bisogno di info per la georeferenziazione di foto all'interno di un percorso GPS gia' georeferenziato (da me) dove trovo istruzioni? Grazie Translation : Excuse me but how does it work? I need info for geo-referencing photos within GPS route already 'geo-referenced (by me) where I find instructions? Thanks Google Translate is becoming very impressive... ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] Daily Updates to CloudMade Routing
Hi guys, Some of you use CloudMade's routing to debug your mapping. We've had a lot of feedback that though useful, there are two problems: 1 - The routing is out of date, often lagging many days behind 2 - There are bugs with turn restrictions As of this week, we are updating routing every 24 hours which should help with checking mapping and finding errors. Routing should update by early evening GMT (16.00 is the target time) with data from the previous day. So at 16:00 on Friday 15th Dec, routing will have data up to 00:00 on Friday 15th Dec. This is a new service, so exact completion times for the import will probably vary. Turn restrictions - we are working on bug fixes for all of the turn restriction problems that exist on our bug tracker. You can report bugs and request features here: http://developers.cloudmade.com/projects/routing-http-api/issues Happy mapping. -- Nick Black twitter.com/nick_b ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] ?
On 14/01/2010 11:01, sara susini wrote: This list generally uses English. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/IT:FAQ e talk...@openstreemap.org - http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it -- Jonathan (Jonobennett) ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] Fwd: ?
sending to italian mailinglist. Sara, please subscribe to it here: http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it -- Forwarded message -- From: sara susini sari...@gmail.com Date: 2010/1/14 Subject: [OSM-talk] ? To: talk@openstreetmap.org Scusate ma come funziona? Ho bisogno di info per la georeferenziazione di foto all'interno di un percorso GPS gia' georeferenziato (da me) dove trovo istruzioni? Grazie -- SARA SUSINI, PhD LINEE Laboratory of INformation-tech for Earth and Environment Universita' degli Studi di Urbino Carlo Bo Campus Scientifico - 61029 Urbino - Italia Tel. Fax.: (int.+) 0722.304295 - ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk -- -S ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] openmaps.eu
Emilie Laffray wrote: Unless they remove their NC (Non Commercial Use Only) clause, colloborating with openmaps.eu http://openmaps.eu is a non sequitur. Zaka, what do you think ? Is there any way that Openmaps.eu might in the future evolve toward removing the non-commercial clause, or is that a fundamental tenet of the project ? ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Field Requirements from Haiti for spatial imagery-based work (processing digitizing): NEED to map any spontaneous camps appearing in the imagery with size in area
Jean-Marc Liotier wrote: Mikel Maron wrote: Details are still emerging but apparently Digital Globe is making available pre- and post- event imagery, tomorrow. There are other sources in the pipeline. I asked Spot Image : they don't mention the earthquake on their site, so who knows - why no ask ? They directed me to http://www.spotimage.com/web/121-charte-risques.php which mentions their participation in the International Charter Space and Major Disasters. The charter's web site has a page for Haiti, which links to some imagery: http://www.disasterscharter.org/web/charter/activation_details?p_r_p_1415474252_assetId=ACT-287 There are some additional images at http://sertit.u-strasbg.fr/SITE_RMS/2010/01_rms_haiti_2010/01_rms_haiti_2010.html but the post-earthquake imagery is only at ten meters resolution. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Translation tool for map internationalization ?
2010/1/9 Ab_fab gamma@gmail.com First column returning default name, and a additional column(s), used to 1. show names already translated in the language chosen by user (see above 2. Propose an automated translation (e.g. based on wikipedia contents), for review and correction 3. allow fill-in of the names translated by user, or allow him to confirm that translation is not required 4. upload the actual translations / modifications performed by user in a single changeset, under user I dont know if you are aware, but the debian package iso-codes already contains a significant amount of translations of place names etc. (short and official country names, country subdivisions, cities, scripts, languages, currencies) into up to 98 languages. http://pkg-isocodes.alioth.debian.org/ I think these data could be extremely useful for OSM internationalisation, but it is provided under the GNU LGPL license, which may still be a problem for the inclusion of this work into OSM - unless the license compatability is sorted out with FSF (see http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Common_licence_interpretations#Is_the_OSM_licence_.28CC-SA.29_compatible_with_other_.22free.22_licences.3F) or the authors are willing to relicense it under CC-by-SA. -- -- Civilingeniør ph.d. Claus Hindsgaul Edvard Thomsens Vej 19, 5. th DK-2300 KBH S ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] Spam in the diaries
See http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/dbadwal/diary/9248 What is the procedure to flag that and its author for removal ? ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Field Requirements from Haiti for spatial imagery-based work (processing digitizing): NEED to map any spontaneous camps appearing in the imagery with size in area
nicolas chavent wrote: I am relaying a mapping requirement grounded in Haiti from GIS practitioners mapping there at the United Nations Office of Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs (UNOCHA): NEED to map any spontaneous camps appearing in the imagery with size in area Relevant feature would be nodes or areas tagged amenity=camp (a temporary living or relocation area, used for displaced persons, workers etc.) - a not-yet-voted proposed feature not to be confused with tourism=camp... ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] GeoEye Haiti imagery Ok'd
OSM has permission to use the imagery, as long as we give credit. I suggest using the source tag for this. Tiles are needed from the GeoTIFF. Details at http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Haiti#GeoEye == Mikel Maron == http://mapkibera.org/ +254 (0) 724899738 mi...@osmfoundation.org ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Spam in the diaries
On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 18:41, Jean-Marc Liotier j...@liotier.org wrote: See http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/dbadwal/diary/9248 What is the procedure to flag that and its author for removal ? The author seems to have been removed already. What I'm wondering is why there are no rel=nofollow attributes on the links. The last time diary spam was reported it was implemented for all user-provided content and as far as I can see it is still in the code. Perhaps something about the order of sanitize and linkify? But I really have no good idea. Lars ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] GeoEye Haiti imagery Ok'd
Mikel, I will start downloading/tiling this now. Andy, if you finish before I post anything let me know. On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 11:54 AM, Mikel Maron mikel_ma...@yahoo.com wrote: OSM has permission to use the imagery, as long as we give credit. I suggest using the source tag for this. Tiles are needed from the GeoTIFF. Details at http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Haiti#GeoEye == Mikel Maron == http://mapkibera.org/ +254 (0) 724899738 mi...@osmfoundation.org ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Field Requirements from Haiti for spatial imagery-based work (processing digitizing): NEED to map any spontaneous camps appearing in the imagery with size in area
tourism=camp_site is rendered, which is important right now. we can add refugee=yes to indicate the difference. clean up later if we come up with a better scheme == Mikel Maron == http://mapkibera.org/ +254 (0) 724899738 mi...@osmfoundation.org From: Jean-Marc Liotier j...@liotier.org To: talk@openstreetmap.org Sent: Thu, January 14, 2010 11:47:28 AM Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Field Requirements from Haiti for spatial imagery-based work (processing digitizing): NEED to map any spontaneous camps appearing in the imagery with size in area nicolas chavent wrote: I am relaying a mapping requirement grounded in Haiti from GIS practitioners mapping there at the United Nations Office of Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs (UNOCHA): NEED to map any spontaneous camps appearing in the imagery with size in area Relevant feature would be nodes or areas tagged amenity=camp (a temporary living or relocation area, used for displaced persons, workers etc.) - a not-yet-voted proposed feature not to be confused with tourism=camp... ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] Monitoring and coordination tools, Haiti
- What tools are available to see in real time which areas have been mapped recently? Would it be possible to filter activity by type of features? (itomapper doesn't seem to have updating data) - Any ideas on another tool that would allow people to check out an area for a period of time? This would enforce anything in the API, but simply easily notify other people of activity. This would be helpful for general coordination among us mapping in Haiti. There is also a very particular need ... the European Commission is collecting damaged building assessments. We want to be very systematic in analyzing pre- and post- disaster imagery for damaged buildings. -Mikel == Mikel Maron == http://mapkibera.org/ +254 (0) 724899738 mi...@osmfoundation.org ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Monitoring and coordination tools, Haiti
On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 1:15 PM, Mikel Maron mikel_ma...@yahoo.com wrote: - What tools are available to see in real time which areas have been mapped recently? Would it be possible to filter activity by type of features? (itomapper doesn't seem to have updating data) - Any ideas on another tool that would allow people to check out an area for a period of time? This would enforce anything in the API, but simply easily notify other people of activity. This would be helpful for general coordination among us mapping in Haiti. There is also a very particular need ... the European Commission is collecting damaged building assessments. We want to be very systematic in analyzing pre- and post- disaster imagery for damaged buildings. Openstreetbugs seems wide open in Haiti. It requires mappers to make that extra step to sign out and sign in though. http://openstreetbugs.schokokeks.org/?zoom=9lat=18.94843lon=-72.76891layers=B00T ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] GeoEye Haiti imagery Ok'd
On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 5:59 PM, Ian Dees ian.d...@gmail.com wrote: Mikel, I will start downloading/tiling this now. Andy, if you finish before I post anything let me know. The race is on :-) I'm downloading the tiff onto dev.osm.org, and have everything else waiting to go. Now if only the download was running quicker... Cheers, Andy ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Spam in the diaries
On 14/01/10 17:58, Lars Francke wrote: What I'm wondering is why there are no rel=nofollow attributes on the links. The last time diary spam was reported it was implemented for all user-provided content and as far as I can see it is still in the code. Perhaps something about the order of sanitize and linkify? But I really have no good idea. Because those links came from the user - ie they entered a tags directly. It's only links that we generate (by spotting URLs in the text) that get the rel=nofollow treatment. Tom -- Tom Hughes (t...@compton.nu) http://www.compton.nu/ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Monitoring and coordination tools, Haiti
Am 14.01.2010 um 19:15 schrieb Mikel Maron: - What tools are available to see in real time which areas have been mapped recently? Would it be possible to filter activity by type of features? (itomapper doesn't seem to have updating data) - Any ideas on another tool that would allow people to check out an area for a period of time? This would enforce anything in the API, but simply easily notify other people of activity. Not exactly what you're looking for, but maybe we could re-use some tools from here: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/DE:Luftbilder_aus_Bayern#Erfolge These were used to show how far an area was already mapped and if it still needs mapping... Jonas ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] openmaps.eu
On 14.01.2010 14:56, Jean-Marc Liotier wrote: Emilie Laffray wrote: Unless they remove their NC (Non Commercial Use Only) clause, colloborating with openmaps.euhttp://openmaps.eu is a non sequitur. Zaka, what do you think ? Is there any way that Openmaps.eu might in the future evolve toward removing the non-commercial clause, or is that a fundamental tenet of the project ? ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk You should know that openmaps.eu Polygons are based on commercial map data which they bought for openmaps.eu use. I don't think that is possible to put that data under CCBYSA or the new odbl license, meaning the main Plus point of openmaps.eu cannot be integrated into OSM anyhow. Their streets and ways have not great quantity compared to OSM. So for openmaps.eu to drop their nice landuse polygons and move to openstreetmap polygons might be not really attractive. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] GeoEye Haiti imagery Ok'd
On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 6:25 PM, Andy Allan gravityst...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 5:59 PM, Ian Dees ian.d...@gmail.com wrote: Mikel, I will start downloading/tiling this now. Andy, if you finish before I post anything let me know. The race is on :-) I'm downloading the tiff onto dev.osm.org, and have everything else waiting to go. Now if only the download was running quicker... Many thanks to Ian for helping me with this. Imagery is available at http://gravitystorm.dev.openstreetmap.org/imagery/haiti/z/x/y.png Use this link in Potlatch: http://gravitystorm.dev.openstreetmap.org/imagery/haiti/!/!/!.png Note that the rectification is bleeding miles off on that geotiff. I'll see if I can figure out a way to fix that, but for now press space on potlatch and drag it in from the west. Zooms 19 and 20 are being generated as I type. Cheers, Andy ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] GeoEye Haiti imagery Ok'd
Will there be a working wms server for JOSM ?? cetest -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: talk-boun...@openstreetmap.org [mailto:talk-boun...@openstreetmap.org] Namens Andy Allan Verzonden: donderdag 14 januari 2010 20:20 Aan: Ian Dees CC: talk@openstreetmap.org Onderwerp: Re: [OSM-talk] GeoEye Haiti imagery Ok'd On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 6:25 PM, Andy Allan gravityst...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 5:59 PM, Ian Dees ian.d...@gmail.com wrote: Mikel, I will start downloading/tiling this now. Andy, if you finish before I post anything let me know. The race is on :-) I'm downloading the tiff onto dev.osm.org, and have everything else waiting to go. Now if only the download was running quicker... Many thanks to Ian for helping me with this. Imagery is available at http://gravitystorm.dev.openstreetmap.org/imagery/haiti/z/x/y.png Use this link in Potlatch: http://gravitystorm.dev.openstreetmap.org/imagery/haiti/!/!/!.png Note that the rectification is bleeding miles off on that geotiff. I'll see if I can figure out a way to fix that, but for now press space on potlatch and drag it in from the west. Zooms 19 and 20 are being generated as I type. Cheers, Andy ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] GeoEye Haiti imagery Ok'd
Perhaps the slippymap plugin could be tweaked to acces the haiti imagery. I don't know it well but it seems that it loads tiles addressed with (x,y)-coordinates, looks quite similar to what is availabe at gravitystorm. And it uses a level, i.e. the zoom level, that is the z in gravitiystorms URL? Then it could probably load tiles from http://gravitystorm.dev.openstreetmap.org/imagery/haiti/z/x/y.png too. -- Karl Am 14.01.2010 21:25, schrieb ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen: Will there be a working wms server for JOSM ?? cetest -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: talk-boun...@openstreetmap.org [mailto:talk-boun...@openstreetmap.org] Namens Andy Allan Verzonden: donderdag 14 januari 2010 20:20 Aan: Ian Dees CC: talk@openstreetmap.org Onderwerp: Re: [OSM-talk] GeoEye Haiti imagery Ok'd On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 6:25 PM, Andy Allangravityst...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 5:59 PM, Ian Deesian.d...@gmail.com wrote: Mikel, I will start downloading/tiling this now. Andy, if you finish before I post anything let me know. The race is on :-) I'm downloading the tiff onto dev.osm.org, and have everything else waiting to go. Now if only the download was running quicker... Many thanks to Ian for helping me with this. Imagery is available at http://gravitystorm.dev.openstreetmap.org/imagery/haiti/z/x/y.png Use this link in Potlatch: http://gravitystorm.dev.openstreetmap.org/imagery/haiti/!/!/!.png Note that the rectification is bleeding miles off on that geotiff. I'll see if I can figure out a way to fix that, but for now press space on potlatch and drag it in from the west. Zooms 19 and 20 are being generated as I type. Cheers, Andy ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] GeoEye Haiti imagery Ok'd
Am 14.01.2010 um 21:46 schrieb Karl Guggisberg: Perhaps the slippymap plugin could be tweaked to acces the haiti imagery. I got it to work this way, now waiting for Andy to fix the offset of the imagery because unfortunately the slippymap doesn't provide rectifying options like the WMS plugin. We'll update the wiki with tutorials, tags to use etc. as soon as everything works. Jonas I don't know it well but it seems that it loads tiles addressed with (x,y)-coordinates, looks quite similar to what is availabe at gravitystorm. And it uses a level, i.e. the zoom level, that is the z in gravitiystorms URL? Then it could probably load tiles from http://gravitystorm.dev.openstreetmap.org/imagery/haiti/z/x/y.png too. -- Karl Am 14.01.2010 21:25, schrieb ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen: Will there be a working wms server for JOSM ?? cetest -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: talk-boun...@openstreetmap.org [mailto:talk-boun...@openstreetmap.org] Namens Andy Allan Verzonden: donderdag 14 januari 2010 20:20 Aan: Ian Dees CC: talk@openstreetmap.org Onderwerp: Re: [OSM-talk] GeoEye Haiti imagery Ok'd On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 6:25 PM, Andy Allangravityst...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 5:59 PM, Ian Deesian.d...@gmail.com wrote: Mikel, I will start downloading/tiling this now. Andy, if you finish before I post anything let me know. The race is on :-) I'm downloading the tiff onto dev.osm.org, and have everything else waiting to go. Now if only the download was running quicker... Many thanks to Ian for helping me with this. Imagery is available at http://gravitystorm.dev.openstreetmap.org/imagery/haiti/z/x/y.png Use this link in Potlatch: http://gravitystorm.dev.openstreetmap.org/imagery/haiti/!/!/!.png Note that the rectification is bleeding miles off on that geotiff. I'll see if I can figure out a way to fix that, but for now press space on potlatch and drag it in from the west. Zooms 19 and 20 are being generated as I type. Cheers, Andy ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] GeoEye Haiti imagery Ok'd
On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 20:46, Karl Guggisberg karl.guggisb...@guggis.ch wrote: Perhaps the slippymap plugin could be tweaked to acces the haiti imagery. I don't know it well but it seems that it loads tiles addressed with (x,y)-coordinates, looks quite similar to what is availabe at gravitystorm. And it uses a level, i.e. the zoom level, that is the z in gravitiystorms URL? Then it could probably load tiles from http://gravitystorm.dev.openstreetmap.org/imagery/haiti/z/x/y.png too. Yes, this uses the same URL schema as the NearMap / OOC maps the slippymap plugin already supports, so it's just a matter of dropping it into the defaults somewhere I would think. However the imagery isn't correctly rectified at the moment and JOSM only allows you to move the WMS backround, not the SlippyMap backround so this imagery is pretty useless at the moment if you're using JOSM. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] GeoEye Haiti imagery Ok'd
2010/1/14 ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen g.grem...@cetest.nl: Will there be a working wms server for JOSM ?? I tried the gnome-web-photo / webkit approach and came up with this url earlier, but it's *really* badly off. You need to enter this as the wms url for wmsplugin: html:http://www.openstreetmap.pl/balrog/GeoEye.html? Cheers ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] GeoEye Haiti imagery Ok'd
I've added a tile source to the the slippymap plugin too. - update (or download) the slippymap plugin - go to Preferences-Slippy Map preferences - select Haiti Imagery as Tile Source Regards Karl Am 14.01.2010 21:56, schrieb Jonas Krückel: Am 14.01.2010 um 21:46 schrieb Karl Guggisberg: Perhaps the slippymap plugin could be tweaked to acces the haiti imagery. I got it to work this way, now waiting for Andy to fix the offset of the imagery because unfortunately the slippymap doesn't provide rectifying options like the WMS plugin. We'll update the wiki with tutorials, tags to use etc. as soon as everything works. Jonas I don't know it well but it seems that it loads tiles addressed with (x,y)-coordinates, looks quite similar to what is availabe at gravitystorm. And it uses a level, i.e. the zoom level, that is the z in gravitiystorms URL? Then it could probably load tiles from http://gravitystorm.dev.openstreetmap.org/imagery/haiti/z/x/y.png too. -- Karl Am 14.01.2010 21:25, schrieb ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen: Will there be a working wms server for JOSM ?? cetest -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: talk-boun...@openstreetmap.org [mailto:talk-boun...@openstreetmap.org] Namens Andy Allan Verzonden: donderdag 14 januari 2010 20:20 Aan: Ian Dees CC: talk@openstreetmap.org Onderwerp: Re: [OSM-talk] GeoEye Haiti imagery Ok'd On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 6:25 PM, Andy Allangravityst...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 5:59 PM, Ian Deesian.d...@gmail.com wrote: Mikel, I will start downloading/tiling this now. Andy, if you finish before I post anything let me know. The race is on :-) I'm downloading the tiff onto dev.osm.org, and have everything else waiting to go. Now if only the download was running quicker... Many thanks to Ian for helping me with this. Imagery is available at http://gravitystorm.dev.openstreetmap.org/imagery/haiti/z/x/y.png Use this link in Potlatch: http://gravitystorm.dev.openstreetmap.org/imagery/haiti/!/!/!.png Note that the rectification is bleeding miles off on that geotiff. I'll see if I can figure out a way to fix that, but for now press space on potlatch and drag it in from the west. Zooms 19 and 20 are being generated as I type. Cheers, Andy ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] GeoEye Haiti imagery Ok'd
2010/1/15 Karl Guggisberg karl.guggisb...@guggis.ch: Perhaps the slippymap plugin could be tweaked to acces the haiti imagery. I don't know it well but it seems that it loads tiles addressed with (x,y)-coordinates, looks quite similar to what is availabe at gravitystorm. And it uses a level, i.e. the zoom level, that is the z in gravitiystorms URL? Then it could probably load tiles from http://gravitystorm.dev.openstreetmap.org/imagery/haiti/z/x/y.png too. I supplied a patch a week or so ago to load custom URLs, but I doubt it has been incorporated: http://josm.openstreetmap.de/ticket/3983 However as others have said, the imagery isn't that useful unless the slippymap plugin allows you to move the bg imagery. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] GeoEye Haiti imagery Ok'd
This would have come in handy. But as hansendc writes in his comment in the trac ticket: it's really easy to add a custom tile source. BTW: you don't have to submit patches for the slippymap plugin you can easily apply them yourself. It is hosted on the OSM SVN, not on the JOSM SVN and commit access is far less restrictive on the former than on the later. - get write access - check out http://svn.openstreetmap.org/applications/editors/josm/ - apply the patch - update commit.message and plugin.main.version (if necessary) in http://svn.openstreetmap.org/applications/editors/josm/plugins/slippymap/build.xml - run ant dist publish -- Karl Am 14.01.2010 22:16, schrieb John Smith: 2010/1/15 Karl Guggisbergkarl.guggisb...@guggis.ch: Perhaps the slippymap plugin could be tweaked to acces the haiti imagery. I don't know it well but it seems that it loads tiles addressed with (x,y)-coordinates, looks quite similar to what is availabe at gravitystorm. And it uses a level, i.e. the zoom level, that is the z in gravitiystorms URL? Then it could probably load tiles from http://gravitystorm.dev.openstreetmap.org/imagery/haiti/z/x/y.png too. I supplied a patch a week or so ago to load custom URLs, but I doubt it has been incorporated: http://josm.openstreetmap.de/ticket/3983 However as others have said, the imagery isn't that useful unless the slippymap plugin allows you to move the bg imagery. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] GeoEye Haiti imagery Ok'd
2010/1/15 Karl Guggisberg karl.guggisb...@guggis.ch: This would have come in handy. But as hansendc writes in his comment in the trac ticket: it's really easy to add a custom tile source. Only if the URL is in the right format, my patch extends things to make it even more useful. BTW: you don't have to submit patches for the slippymap plugin you can easily apply them yourself. It is hosted on the OSM SVN, not on the JOSM SVN and commit access is far less restrictive on the former than on the later. I submitted it for the benefit of others, especially those that aren't able to add their own custom URLs to code and recompile it. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] Fw: [CrisisMappers] new GeoEye imagery
don't know if this is new to us or not... == Mikel Maron == http://mapkibera.org/ +254 (0) 724899738 mi...@osmfoundation.org - Forwarded Message From: Chris chrisgnicho...@att.net To: CrisisMappers crisismapp...@googlegroups.com Sent: Thu, January 14, 2010 3:51:12 PM Subject: [CrisisMappers] new GeoEye imagery I will be reposting as WMS here shortly... Chris From: Byrnes Tara [byrnes.t...@geoeye.com] Sent: 01/14/2010 11:28 MST To: Lorant CZARAN Subject: GeoEye Haiti Image Hi Lorant, Below please find the FTP site to download our latest Geo product over the Capital city. Host:dulftp.geoeye.com User ID:FTPUser7 Password: WrDmec4 There are no licensing restrictions on this imagery but please credit GeoEye. Any derived work is not ours but copyright of the imagery is still GeoEye. Get this out to those in need. Thanks, Tara -- International Network of Crisis Mappers http://www.CrisisMappers.net___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] GeoEye Haiti imagery Ok'd
2010/1/14 andrzej zaborowski balr...@gmail.com: 2010/1/14 ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen g.grem...@cetest.nl: Will there be a working wms server for JOSM ?? html:http://www.openstreetmap.pl/balrog/GeoEye.html? Ok, I'm now offsetting the tiles by the needed vector inside the html and the offset is bearable now, to use it do this: 1. Have wmplugin installed 2. Go into preferences (F12) 3. Click WMS properties 4. Click Add 5. In Menu Name type GeoEye, in WMS URL paste html:http://www.openstreetmap.pl/GeoEye.html?; Cheers ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] GeoEye Haiti imagery Ok'd
Use this link in Potlatch: http://gravitystorm.dev.openstreetmap.org/imagery/haiti/!/!/!.png Note that the rectification is bleeding miles off on that geotiff. Is it possible to link to a Potlatch with these tiles loaded by default? Would be wonderful to be able to post a link saying Help us map here. -- /emj ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Field Requirements from Haiti for spatial imagery-based work (processing digitizing): NEED to map any spontaneous camps appearing in the imagery with size in area
We also now have the permission to use DigitalGlobe imagery: http://twitter.com/mikel/status/7764452473 Just confirmed: DigitalGlobe imagery can be used for OSM tracing. Just need source tag, and a note in wiki. Thx DG! Who can make the imagery available for tracing in JOSM and Potlatch? GeoEye imagery can already be used for tracing now: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Haiti#GeoEye Jonas (John07) Am 14.01.2010 um 02:27 schrieb Mikel Maron: Details are still emerging but apparently Digital Globe is making available pre- and post- event imagery, tomorrow. There are other sources in the pipeline. I'm of course pushing to make sure that we have full rights to derive vectors from these sources. If this becomes available, then this is certainly the kind of thing we can look for in the imagery. -Mikel == Mikel Maron == http://mapkibera.org/ +254 (0) 724899738 mi...@osmfoundation.org From: nicolas chavent nicolas.chav...@gmail.com To: talk@openstreetmap.org Cc: CJ Hendrix hendrix...@gmail.com Sent: Wed, January 13, 2010 6:18:32 PM Subject: [OSM-talk] Field Requirements from Haiti for spatial imagery-based work (processing digitizing): NEED to map any spontaneous camps appearing in the imagery with size in area Hi there I am relaying a mapping requirement grounded in Haiti from GIS practitioners mapping there at the United Nations Office of Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs (UNOCHA): NEED to map any spontaneous camps appearing in the imagery with size in area Best. N -- Nicolas Chavent Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team Mobile (FRA): +33 6 75 14 29 70 Email: nicolas.chav...@gmail.com Skype: c_nicolas ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] OpenRouteService for Haiti Online
Hello A first OpenRouteService Site (Routing/Geocoding) is up and running for Haiti, it supports the definition of AvoidAreas e.g. blocked areas http://openls.geog.uni-heidelberg.de/osm-haiti/ Thanks to Pascal Neis, Joe Lauer and the rest of the team! OpenStreetMap Data is updated every hour (thanks Frederik) best alex _ Prof. Dr. Alexander Zipf Chair of Geoinformatics/GIScience, Department of Geography, University of Heidelberg Berliner Str. 48, 69120 Heidelberg, Germany http://www.geog.uni-heidelberg.de/giscience.html z...@uni-heidelberg.de mailto:z...@uni-heidelberg.de _ http://www.OpenRouteService.org http://www.osm-3d.org http://www.RollstuhlRouting.de http://www.gdi-3d.de http://www.gdi-grid.de http://www.opengeoprocessing.org http://www.osm-wms.de http://www.ok-gis.de http://www.hgis-germany.de http://www.mona3d.de http://www.nrw-3d.de ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] Routing and Geocoding Haiti
Hi, an OpenRouteService Site (Routing/Geocoding) is up and running for Haiti, OpenStreetMap Data is updated every hour! It is available under: http://openls.geog.uni-heidelberg.de/osm-haiti/ pascal ps. thx to Frederik for the OSM files (http://labs.geofabrik.de/haiti/) ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] GeoEye Haiti imagery Ok'd
2010/1/14 Erik Johansson e...@kth.se: Use this link in Potlatch: http://gravitystorm.dev.openstreetmap.org/imagery/haiti/!/!/!.png Note that the rectification is bleeding miles off on that geotiff. Is it possible to link to a Potlatch with these tiles loaded by default? Would be wonderful to be able to post a link saying Help us map here. According to the wiki it's this: http://www.openstreetmap.org/edit?lat=18.54954lon=-72.3998zoom=16tileurl=http://gravitystorm.dev.openstreetmap.org/imagery/haiti/!/!/!.png (I have no flash so can't tell you if this works) Cheers ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] GeoEye Haiti imagery Ok'd
On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 22:54, Erik Johansson e...@kth.se wrote: Use this link in Potlatch: http://gravitystorm.dev.openstreetmap.org/imagery/haiti/!/!/!.png Note that the rectification is bleeding miles off on that geotiff. Is it possible to link to a Potlatch with these tiles loaded by default? Would be wonderful to be able to post a link saying Help us map here. Yes: http://www.openstreetmap.org/edit?lat=18.54954lon=-72.3998zoom=16tileurl=http://gravitystorm.dev.openstreetmap.org/imagery/haiti/!/!/!.png ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] GeoEye Haiti imagery Ok'd
Am 14.01.2010 um 23:54 schrieb Erik Johansson: Use this link in Potlatch: http://gravitystorm.dev.openstreetmap.org/imagery/haiti/!/!/!.png Note that the rectification is bleeding miles off on that geotiff. Is it possible to link to a Potlatch with these tiles loaded by default? Would be wonderful to be able to post a link saying Help us map here. Yes, see the wiki page: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Haiti#GeoEye To trace in Potlatch, launch potlatch with this link: http://www.openstreetmap.org/edit?lat=18.54954lon=-72.3998zoom=16tileurl=http://gravitystorm.dev.openstreetmap.org/imagery/haiti/!/!/!.png - Note that the rectification is bleeding miles off on that geotiff. I'll see if I can figure out a way to fix that, but for now press hold space on potlatch and drag it in from the west. The rectification problem should be solved soon, it is already in JOSM. Jonas___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] GeoEye Haiti imagery Ok'd
Is the image server under high load at the moment? I can't seem to get anything useful out of that link - certainly I can't zoom in far enough to record some of the detail others obviously have been. Cheers, Joseph 2010/1/14 Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason ava...@gmail.com: On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 22:54, Erik Johansson e...@kth.se wrote: Use this link in Potlatch: http://gravitystorm.dev.openstreetmap.org/imagery/haiti/!/!/!.png Note that the rectification is bleeding miles off on that geotiff. Is it possible to link to a Potlatch with these tiles loaded by default? Would be wonderful to be able to post a link saying Help us map here. Yes: http://www.openstreetmap.org/edit?lat=18.54954lon=-72.3998zoom=16tileurl=http://gravitystorm.dev.openstreetmap.org/imagery/haiti/!/!/!.png ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] GeoEye Haiti imagery Ok'd
On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 7:20 PM, Andy Allan gravityst...@gmail.com wrote: Note that the rectification is bleeding miles off on that geotiff. I'll see if I can figure out a way to fix that, but for now press space on potlatch and drag it in from the west. The rectification has been fixed using the GCP information from Chippy. Cheers, Andy ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Field Requirements from Haiti for spatial imagery-based work (processing digitizing): NEED to map any spontaneous camps appearing in the imagery with size in area
On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 10:57 PM, Jonas Krückel o...@jonas-krueckel.de wrote: We also now have the permission to use DigitalGlobe imagery: http://twitter.com/mikel/status/7764452473 Just confirmed: DigitalGlobe imagery can be used for OSM tracing. Just need source tag, and a note in wiki. Thx DG! Who can make the imagery available for tracing in JOSM and Potlatch? If someone can find a URL for the geoTiffs to download, then I can make them available in the same way as the GeoEYE stuff I've done today. I'll see how things are in the morning. Cheers, Andy ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] GeoEye Haiti imagery Ok'd
* On 14-Jan-2010 at 7:28PM EST, Andy Allan said: On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 7:20 PM, Andy Allan gravityst...@gmail.com wrote: Note that the rectification is bleeding miles off on that geotiff. I'll see if I can figure out a way to fix that, but for now press space on potlatch and drag it in from the west. The rectification has been fixed using the GCP information from Chippy. The same warped image is being mirrored at NYPL as well: The imagery is available here: http://maps.nypl.org/tilecache/1/haiti/$z/$x/$y.jpg You can also use this custom imagery URL in Potlatch: http://maps.nypl.org/tilecache/1/haiti/!/!/!.png Finally, there's WMS for use in JOSM: http://maps.nypl.org/relief/maps/wms/32?request=GetMapversion=1.1.1styles=format=image/pngsrs=epsg:4326exceptions=application/vnd.ogc.se_inimage; These URLs are using the exact same image as the gravitystorm.dev.osm server, but might be under less load... SDE ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Daily Updates to CloudMade Routing
On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 10:10 PM, Nick Black nickbla...@gmail.com wrote: As of this week, we are updating routing every 24 hours which should help with checking mapping and finding errors. Awesome, this is a big help. Steve ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] Cycle route won't render
Hi I'm having troubles getting a cycle route to render. The relation is: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/367273 I've managed to get pieces of it to render on the cycle map: http://osm.org/go/kaIGiwl?layers=00B0FTF' But not the whole thing. I assume its because the route goes back on itself? Can anybody provide assistance? Thanks Adrian ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Priority features to map in Haiti
For folks looking for things to map, I'd recommend going over the access roads to the area airports, as i read that airports are jammed. So maybe some access roads are out. I would imagine that the whole island needs an extra looking at now that the imagery is available. I would think that the other cities also got hit and could have considerable damage that needs to be mapped. Sam On 1/14/10, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: Please recommend what specific features we need to look for in Haiti to aid relief and the suggested tagging. camp_site damaged buildings damaged bridges relief centers [more] -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk -- Twitter: @Acrosscanada Blog: http://Acrosscanadatrails.blogspot.com Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/sam.vekemans Skype: samvekemans OpenStreetMap IRC: http://irc.openstreetmap.org @Acrosscanadatrails ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] OpenRouteService for Haiti Online
Hi Alex, Is there any tagging that I can add to highways that appear blocked according to the latest GeoEye so that you automatically identify the highway as an AvoidArea? Thanks Phil Hello A first OpenRouteService Site (Routing/Geocoding) is up and running for Haiti, it supports the definition of AvoidAreas e.g. blocked areas http://openls.geog.uni-heidelberg.de/osm-haiti/ Thanks to Pascal Neis, Joe Lauer and the rest of the team! ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Cycle route won't render
Seems fine to me. Just hasn't been rerendered on all zoom-levels yet. (Zoom-level 13 seems to be correct) Konrad 2010/1/15 Adrian Moisey adr...@changeover.za.net: Hi I'm having troubles getting a cycle route to render. The relation is: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/367273 I've managed to get pieces of it to render on the cycle map: http://osm.org/go/kaIGiwl?layers=00B0FTF' But not the whole thing. I assume its because the route goes back on itself? Can anybody provide assistance? Thanks Adrian ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[talk-au] date time formats
forgotten the context, but there was some chat a few weeks back on standard date formats, date ranges. etc. this may be of interest: http://www.loc.gov/standards/datetime/examples.html jim -- _ Jim Croft ~ jim.cr...@gmail.com ~ +61-2-62509499 ~ http://www.google.com/profiles/jim.croft 'A civilized society is one which tolerates eccentricity to the point of doubtful sanity.' - Robert Frost, poet (1874-1963) ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
[talk-au] OSM in Haiti
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Haiti#2010_Earthquake_Response http://blog.ushahidi.com/index.php/2010/01/13/haiti-earthquake/ jim -- _ Jim Croft ~ jim.cr...@gmail.com ~ +61-2-62509499 ~ http://www.google.com/profiles/jim.croft 'A civilized society is one which tolerates eccentricity to the point of doubtful sanity.' - Robert Frost, poet (1874-1963) ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
[talk-au] Alcohol Free / Prohibited Zones
I decided tonight I might try and play around with alcohol-free zones using a few relations using North Sydney as an example. Alcohol free: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/384684 Alcohol prohibited: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/384683 (View relation on larger map makes for better viewing pleasure) I'm sure my way of doing it is probably full of wrong things, such as relation type (it's multipolygon, because the Bowling club and the cricket Stands at St Leonards park are allowed alcohol, just not outside these establishments inside the park). As well as sub-optimal tags. Essentially:- Alcohol free = don't drink / carry unsealed alcohol Alcohol prohibited = no alcohol at all allowed even if sealed I temporarily tried giving the relations a name, but that seems to give ways and closed ways (areas) the name of the relation in addition to its own name. - Hence I just gave it a note field instead. As always, suggestions are welcome :) -- cam_...@fastmail.fm -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Accessible with your email software or over the web ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
[talk-au] Naming bridge on a road
I know I have seen a thread on this but I can't find it again. I am wanting to name a bridge on a road. Current keys for the road are; highway=unclassified name=River Road layer=1 For the bridge section I have added; bridge=yes layer=1 How do I capture the bridge name Noel Tuohen Bridge? Do I add a loc_name=Noel... to the bridge portion? That doesn't seem right to me because it is not a local name. Thanks, Craig ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] date time formats
2010/1/14 Jim Croft jim.cr...@gmail.com: forgotten the context, but there was some chat a few weeks back on standard date formats, date ranges. etc. this may be of interest: http://www.loc.gov/standards/datetime/examples.html I think you are referring to the thread on opening hours, but this isn't simple date ranges... Most dates used would be for closing, eg closed on xmas day... ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] OSM in Haiti
2010/1/14 Jim Croft jim.cr...@gmail.com: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Haiti#2010_Earthquake_Response http://blog.ushahidi.com/index.php/2010/01/13/haiti-earthquake/ I'm not trying to detract from how badly off people are in Haiti... but nothing like this occurred when Australia had those really bad fires recently. ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Alcohol Free / Prohibited Zones
2010/1/14 cam_...@fastmail.fm: As always, suggestions are welcome :) I never did get round to doing the one I was going to do before I had to leave, so well done... The only comment is on the prohibited relation, is it really needed to do the inner sections of St Leonards Park, when you have the outer section of the park done? ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Alcohol Free / Prohibited Zones
2010/1/15 John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com: 2010/1/14 cam_...@fastmail.fm: As always, suggestions are welcome :) I never did get round to doing the one I was going to do before I had to leave, so well done... The only comment is on the prohibited relation, is it really needed to do the inner sections of St Leonards Park, when you have the outer section of the park done? http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-33.8312lon=151.21092zoom=17layers=B000FTFTrelation=384683 ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
[talk-au] Fwd: [Aust-NZ] OSGeo booth at upcoming international Federation of Surveyor's conference?
-- Forwarded message -- From: Cameron Shorter cameron.shor...@lisasoft.com Date: 2010/1/15 Subject: Re: [Aust-NZ] OSGeo booth at upcoming international Federation of Surveyor's conference? To: John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com Cc: Jody Garnett jody.garn...@gmail.com, aust...@lists.osgeo.org aust...@lists.osgeo.org John, We'd welcome OSM on the OSGeo stand if we get one. On 15/01/2010 8:01 AM, John Smith wrote: 2010/1/15 Jody Garnettjody.garn...@gmail.com: I am always up for a spot of advocacy. Jody Any chance OSM can get some love too? :) -- Cameron Shorter Geospatial Solutions Manager Tel: +61 (0)2 8570 5050 Mob: +61 (0)419 142 254 Think Globally, Fix Locally Geospatial Solutions enhanced with Open Standards and Open Source http://www.lisasoft.com ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] OSM in Haiti
2010/1/14 Jim Croft jim.cr...@gmail.com: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Haiti#2010_Earthquake_Response http://blog.ushahidi.com/index.php/2010/01/13/haiti-earthquake/ I'm not trying to detract from how badly off people are in Haiti... but nothing like this occurred when Australia had those really bad fires recently. Probably 2 reasons 1. mapping does exist in the first place which is stored off-site (ie internationally) 2. it is assumed that us noisy b*s can do this anyway. ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] OSM in Haiti
2010/1/15 ed...@billiau.net: 1. mapping does exist in the first place which is stored off-site (ie internationally) Yes, but up to date imagery gives allows us to create up to date maps, which gives emergency services better information so they can come up with better plans to deal with disasters and better plan distribution of aid relief etc. 2. it is assumed that us noisy b*s can do this anyway. I wasn't only thinking about labour, but also getting imagery on humanitarian basis so that emergency services can get up to date maps etc. ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
[talk-au] Alcohol Free Zones
This is exactly how I envisaged that it would be done - well done. Will use the same methodology for the Alcohol Free Zone in central Bendigo (when I get the chance). I decided tonight I might try and play around with alcohol-free zones using a few relations using North Sydney as an example. Alcohol free: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/384684 Alcohol prohibited: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/384683 (View relation on larger map makes for better viewing pleasure) I'm sure my way of doing it is probably full of wrong things, such as relation type (it's multipolygon, because the Bowling club and the cricket Stands at St Leonards park are allowed alcohol, just not outside these establishments inside the park). As well as sub-optimal tags. Essentially:- Alcohol free = don't drink / carry unsealed alcohol Alcohol prohibited = no alcohol at all allowed even if sealed I temporarily tried giving the relations a name, but that seems to give ways and closed ways (areas) the name of the relation in addition to its own name. - Hence I just gave it a note field instead. As always, suggestions are welcome :) ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Alcohol Free / Prohibited Zones
On Fri, 2010-01-15 at 07:04 +1000, John Smith wrote: I never did get round to doing the one I was going to do before I had to leave, so well done... The only comment is on the prohibited relation, is it really needed to do the inner sections of St Leonards Park, when you have the outer section of the park done? http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-33.8312lon=151.21092zoom=17layers=B000FTFTrelation=384683 If you have a look at page 10 from here: http://www.northsydney.nsw.gov.au/resources/documents/AFPZ_maps_2009.pdf You'll see that the lower left oval and surrounding buildings are allowed to have alcohol (they sell it there!), and a similar situation exists in the lower right (it's a bowling club that also sells alcohol). But apart from these 2 places, the rest of the park is alcohol prohibited. - Which is the primary reason I chose the multipolygon relation, as it defines an outer area, and has holes in it. I may fine tune the alcohol relations to make St Leonard's park a multipolygon relation, then add that relation to the main alcohol site relation which sounds like it'll do a better job of describing it. Relations: Multipolygon - for making holes in areas: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Relation:multipolygon Site - A way to group nodes/ways/areas/relations which belong together: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Relations/Proposed/Site -- cam_...@fastmail.fm -- http://www.fastmail.fm - The professional email service ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Naming bridge on road
That relation proposal looks useful. I had one awkward situation recently where a bike path and a road cross a freeway together. But half way over the bridge, the bike path crosses the road (that is, switches from the right side to the left, by making a right angled crossing). Since both bike path and road have bridge=yes, it ends up rendering as though there is a bridge making the bike path cross over the road. http://osm.org/go/uG4gBJxd4-- Steve On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 11:53 AM, Stephen Hope slh...@gmail.com wrote: Often, if a bridge is named, I think it should be rendered. In Brisbane, for example, everybody knows the Storey Bridge. Hardly anybody recognises the name of the road that crosses it (which is no longer than the bridge plus ramps). If you were given directions in cross the river on the Story bridge (not uncommon), most maps won't help you find it. Stephen 2010/1/15 Craig Feuerherdt craigfeuerhe...@gmail.com: Totally missed the Proposed Features as mentioned by Roy. I went with the bridge_name=... option, the reasoning being that the road goes over the bridge therefore labelling the way that crosses the bridge with the bridge name is topologically incorrect. If you name the road section with the bridge name then at large scales the name may be rendered (as a road name). Not interested in rendering the bridge name, its just about collecting storing the information for some other purpose (such as asset management etc). Craig ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] access=destination
On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 1:24 PM, Roy Wallace waldo000...@gmail.com wrote: For roads with e.g. Local Traffic Only or Through Traffic Keep Right signs, should these be tagged with: access=destination (as is, I understand, common practice), OR vehicle=destination, OR something else? Apparently (says DavidDean), Gosmore excludes roads tagged with access=destination when doing FOOT routing... Do the above mentioned signs apply to all traffic (access=*) or just to vehicles (vehicle=*)? Logically, access=destination would apply to all forms of traffic. So you should tag it motor_vehicle=destination, right? Equally logically, a program doing foot routing should probably ignore access=destination anyway. (These aren't definitive answers, just guesses from the definitions.) Steve ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Alcohol Free / Prohibited Zones
I've played around with the alcohol relations a bit, changing the type of relation to site, rather than multipolygon. And have created a special relation for St Leonard's park, as it's weird. Alcohol free: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/384684 Alcohol prohibited: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/384683 Alcohol prohibited for St Leonard's Park: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/385594 The main Alcohol prohibited relation now includes St Leonard's Park relation (as a child relation). I've also updated the St Leonard's Park alcohol prohibited relation to reflect the prohibition times and dates - as it's a weird special case. The only thing I've got to whinge about it, is that when viewing the main alcohol prohibited relation Alcohol prohibited: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/384683 it doesn't highlight St Leonard's Park. - Perhaps this is a bug I should file? (and where would I file it to?) -- cam_...@fastmail.fm -- http://www.fastmail.fm - IMAP accessible web-mail ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] access=destination
On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 12:30 PM, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote: Logically, access=destination would apply to all forms of traffic. So you should tag it motor_vehicle=destination, right? I don't know. What are you basing that on? Can you legally ride a bike through a Local Traffic Only area? No idea, but I suspect not... The bigger issue is that (I assume) these roads are almost universally tagged with access=destination, which is (it appears) clearly wrong. Equally logically, a program doing foot routing should probably ignore access=destination anyway. That's pretty arbitrary. Should foot routing also ignore access=private? It gets messy. ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] access=destination
On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 1:40 PM, Roy Wallace waldo000...@gmail.com wrote: I don't know. What are you basing that on? Can you legally ride a bike through a Local Traffic Only area? No idea, but I suspect not... I would have thought so, because afaik these rules are to reduce traffic noise. Bicycles not being noisy, I would have thought they weren't included. The bigger issue is that (I assume) these roads are almost universally tagged with access=destination, which is (it appears) clearly wrong. Why is it a problem how everything else is tagged? I'd say access=destination is just less specific Equally logically, a program doing foot routing should probably ignore access=destination anyway. That's pretty arbitrary. Should foot routing also ignore access=private? It gets messy. I should have said would. It does get messy...partially because the real world is messy. Say there was a business park with a boom gate preventing access to unauthorised cars. You might still walk through it. Or you might not. You could trust tags of motor_vehicle=private foot=private more than access=private, I think, but it does leave the problem of having to tag *every possible* vehicle. Steve ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
[talk-au] Interactive map of scale of Haiti earthquake
Not strictly OSM, but worth a look to see the distribution and scale of the impact http://www.abc.net.au/news/events/haiti-earthquake/map.htm jim -- _ Jim Croft ~ jim.cr...@gmail.com ~ +61-2-62509499 ~ http://www.google.com/profiles/jim.croft 'A civilized society is one which tolerates eccentricity to the point of doubtful sanity.' - Robert Frost, poet (1874-1963) ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] access=destination
On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 1:02 PM, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote: I would have thought so, because afaik these rules are to reduce traffic noise. Bicycles not being noisy, I would have thought they weren't included. Maybe, but it's unclear... Anyone good at chasing down legal definitions of road signs? ... I'd say access=destination is just less specific No, access=* applies to ALL transport modes (http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:access). If this isn't the case in reality, it shouldn't be used, or it should be used in conjunction with foot=*, bicycle=* as appropriate. It does get messy...partially because the real world is messy. Say there was a business park with a boom gate preventing access to unauthorised cars. You might still walk through it. Or you might not. There's two issues: 1) understanding an ambiguous situation on the ground. In this case, we need to find out who the signs apply to. 2) tagging the situation according to http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:access. In this case, I suspect access=destination is wrong, because I suspect the signs don't apply to pedestrians (and maybe bicycles). ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
[Talk-br] BR-116 perto de Lajes
Olá Pessoal, Alguém podia dar uma olhada no trecho abaixo? http://is.gd/6glek Parece que em algum lugar está como oneway, mas no JOSM não aparece pra mim esta tag nestre trecho, não sei porque. Abs, Vitor ___ Talk-br mailing list Talk-br@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-br
Re: [Talk-br] BR-116 perto de Lajes
Vitor George escreveu: Olá Pessoal, Alguém podia dar uma olhada no trecho abaixo? http://is.gd/6glek Parece que em algum lugar está como oneway, mas no JOSM não aparece pra mim esta tag nestre trecho, não sei porque. Esta 'divisão' na rodovia perto de Correia Pinto está com os dois lados para o mesmo sentido. http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-27.5908407568932lon=-50.3625270724297zoom=18 -- Rodrigo de Avila Analista de Desenvolvimento +55 51 9733.3488 . rodr...@avila.net.br mailto:rodr...@avila.eti.br . www.avila.net.br http://www.avila.eti.br ___ Talk-br mailing list Talk-br@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-br
[Talk-br] Esforço de mapeamento da crise humanit ária do Haiti
http://is.gd/6gpHuEsforço de mapeamento da crise humanitária do Haiti. Arquivos digitais atualizados a cada 5 minutos de vias trafegáveis, hospitais, edifícios públicos em funcionamento e escombros com possíveis feridos, além de outras informações. Qualquer um pode ajudar. ___ Talk-br mailing list Talk-br@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-br
Re: [Talk-is] ourFootPrints.de gögnin eru mjakast in n
2010/1/14 Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason ava...@gmail.com: Eftir nokkrar tilraunir á tilraunaþjóninum er ourFootPrints.de innflutningurinn hafinn fyrir alvöru: http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/ourFootPrints%20import/edits Þetta ætti að taka nokkrar klukkustundir og verður eflaust lokið í kringum miðnætti. Vinsamlegast ekki raska neinu á kortinu á meðan, sérstaklega þessum ókláruðu gögnum. Annars fer innflutningsforritið kannski að gráta. Þetta er allt komið inn núna: http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/ourFootPrints%20import/edits Nú þarf bara að vinna úr þessu öllu. ___ Talk-is mailing list Talk-is@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-is
Re: [Talk-de] OSM an der VHS
Hallo Flo, Du hast hier das OSM-Wiki als verbesserungsbedürftig beschrieben und schlägst vor, das mal grundsätzlich anzugehen. Finde ich gut! Weil das OSM-Wiki für OSM eine so grosse Bedeutung hat, mache ich dafür mal einen eigenen Thread auf. Würde mich freuen, wenn Du dort die Federführung übernimmst! Wenn Du spezielle Fragen hast helfe ich gern. (nach der boot) Gruss, Markus ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
[Talk-de] OSM-Wiki strukturieren und verbessern
Im Thread OSM an der VHS wurde festgestellt, dass das OSM-Wiki zwar wesentlich besser geworden ist, aber Anfängern damit nach wie vor oft nicht wirklich geholfen ist. Flo fragt, wie man das angehen könnte. Hier ein paar grundlegende Antworten: Bei einer *Einführung in OSM* (ein Abend an der VHS) ist das Wiki ein wichtiges Standbein. Die Botschaft lautet: Wenn Du eitas wissen willst: gib einen passenden Suchbegriff in Suche ein - und das Wiki hilft Dir weiter. Dasselbe erzählen wir auch auf der Messe in Düsseldorf. Damit das dann auch praktisch funktioniert, muss das Wiki a) eine schnell zielführende Suche haben b) deutschsprachige Artikel mit findbaren Titeln haben c) die Artikel müssen die gesuchte Information verständlich, umfassend und nachvollziehbar liefern d) die Artikel müssen klar strukturiert, und vom Einfachen zum Differenzierten aufgebaut sein e) die Artikel müssen untereinander über Wikilinks und Kategorien zielführend vernetzt sein f) ... Frage, wie sich das so realisieren läßt Dafür gibt es drei grudsätzliche Arbeitsweisen, die sich gegenseitig ergänzen müssen: _Benutzerorientiert_ Einen Fragenkatalog aus Anfängersicht aufstellen, mit diesem das Wiki prüfen, Mängelbeschreibung erstellen. Daraus ein Konzept entwickeln, die Struktur aufbauen, entsprechende Übersichtsartikel schreiben, vorhandene Artikel einbauen und ggf verbessern, fehlende Artikel schreiben. _Reingeneering_ Das Wiki ganz neu erfinden... Ein Konzept entwickeln, die Struktur aufbauen, Artikel schreiben. Es macht durchaus Sinn, bei grossen Veränderungen auf der grünen Wiese zu planen, um dabei völlig neue Ideen entwickeln zu können, die dann für die Umsetzung in die Realität Quantensprünge ermöglichen. _Iterativ_ Auf zufälliger Artikel klicken, oder sich 1000 Fragen ausdenken und ein zu einer Frage passendes Suchweort eingeben. Und dann vom Artikel ausgehend diesen und seine Umgebung (Links, Kategorien, links auf diese Seite, und die darüber gefundenen Artikel) verbessern. Ich bin mit den Möglichkeiten des Wiki, dessen Syntax und den templates bisher so gut wie gar nicht vertraut, da muß ich mir auch noch einiges aneignen. Die beste Quelle dafür ist Wikipedia: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Hilfe http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Übersicht http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spezial:Spezialseiten Und natürlich die Umsetzug mittels der entsprechenden Seiten im OSM-Wiki. Gruss, Markus ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] TMC Validator - TMCbot
Am 13.01.2010 14:25, schrieb Frank Sautter: Am TMC-Validator würde ich folgende Änderungen vorschlagen: * Aktualität der Daten (jüngster Timestamp aus dem GeoFabrik Extrakt) Ist auf der Startseite (unter der Landkarte) eingebaut. Könnte ich nochmal auf die Unterseiten verteilen. * Hinweis, dass der TMCbot die o.g. Daten am nächsten Tag anhand des TMC:cid_58:tabcd_1:LocationCode automatisch einträgt (alles außer der Direction) und somit die manuelle Eintragung entfallen kann. Ja, baue ich ein. Ich denke wir brauchen für die Punkte auch noch eine Validation ob ein OSM Punkt wirklich in der Nähe von einem TMC Punkt liegt (falls man sich mal in einem LocationCode verschreibt, ist in Hamburg schon vorgekommen). Gruß Sven ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
[Talk-de] Daily Updates to CloudMade Routing
Hi guys, Some of you use CloudMade's routing to debug your mapping. We've had a lot of feedback that though useful, there are two problems: 1 - The routing is out of date, often lagging many days behind 2 - There are bugs with turn restrictions As of this week, we are updating routing every 24 hours which should help with checking mapping and finding errors. Routing should update by early evening GMT (16.00 is the target time) with data from the previous day. So at 16:00 on Friday 15th Dec, routing will have data up to 00:00 on Friday 15th Dec. This is a new service, so exact completion times for the import will probably vary. Turn restrictions - we are working on bug fixes for all of the turn restriction problems that exist on our bug tracker. You can report bugs and request features here: http://developers.cloudmade.com/projects/routing-http-api/issues Happy mapping. -- Nick Black twitter.com/nick_b ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] guidepost
Hallo Stephan, ich bin amüsiert, dass eine solch einfache Frage mehr als 100 zum Teil sehr emotionale Beiträge erzeugt, zumal es sich um ein eher unwichtigen Tag handelt. Einspruch. Es gibt Gebiete (z.B. die Schweiz, soweit ich weiss aber auch in einigen Bundesländern), in denen die Wanderwege ein komplettes Netz aufspannen und nicht nur aus einzelen Routen bestehen. In diesen Gebieten ist es sinnvoll, sich seinen Weg an Hand der Wegweiser-Knotenpunkten zusammenzustellen. Ein Beispiel für eine Karte, welche die Guideposts auswertet, ist die Wanderkarte von Lonvia: http://osm.lonvia.de/hiking.html?zoom=13lat=47.17357lon=8.75569layers=FFBTT Dort kann man die einzelnen Wegweiser anklicken und erfährt dann, wie lange es bis zum nächsten verbundenen Wegweiser dauert, und wieviele Höhenmeter dabei zu überwinden sind. Die Zusatzinformation, ob ein Schild ein Wander- oder Fahrradsymbol oder Autofahrergroßschrift trägt, erhöht den Nutzwert nicht sehr. Wenn ich mit dem Fahrrad unterwegs bin, kann ich auch Wegweiser für Wanderer oder Autofahrer nutzen. Selbst als Wanderer könnte ich mich (wenn ich entlang einer Hauptstraße laufe) an den Kfz-Wegweisern orientieren. Nur geht es Dir beim Wandern eben gerade meistens nicht darum, möglichst schnell von A nach B zu gelangen, sondern der Weg dahin soll möglichst schön sein. (Der Weg ist das Ziel.) Wanderer und Autofahrer haben hier also ziemlich unterschiedliche Bedürfnisse. Gruss, Thomas (Wie bereits in meinem Statistik-Posting beschrieben, bin ich allerdings auch der Meinung, dass die *=no-Diskussion keine 100+ Beiträge wert ist.) ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] Neue Lizenz und abgezeichnete Daten
Hallo Frederik, Thomas Ineichen wrote: Lohnt es sich, die Stellen jetzt anzufragen, ob sie ihre Luftbilder in OSM abgezeichnet haben wollen, oder sollte man warten, bis die neue Lizenz da ist (- falls sie denn kommt)? Wenn die betr. Stelle Dir sozusagen einen Blankoscheck ausstellt, auf dem steht: Unsere Bilder duerfen fuer die Verwendung in OpenStreetMap abgezeichnet werden, dann ist alles gut. Bist Du Dir sicher? Für mich würde ein solcher Satz eher unter der im Moment der überlassung bestehenden OSM-Lizenz implizieren. @Markus: Im Vertrag mit der Bayerischen Vermessungsverwaltung ist es ja genau so offen formuliert: | 3 Verwendungszweck: | | Test zur Nutzung der Daten zum Abdigitalisieren von Inhalten des DOP durch | Nutzer von OpenStreetMap (OSM) mit Zugang der Nutzer über einen WMS-Dienst | und Nutzung der daraus gewonnenen Daten in OSM http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/images/7/78/Luftbilder_aus_Bayern_-_Pilotprojekt-Nutzungsvertrag.jpg Hast Du schon einmal nachgefragt, wie die zu einem allfälligen Lizenz- wechsel stehen? Gruss, Thomas ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] Neue Lizenz und abgezeichnete Daten
Hallo Thomas, Im Vertrag mit der Bayerischen Vermessungsverwaltung ist es ja genau so offen formuliert Ja, das haben wir ganz gut hinbekommen. In der Endfassung steht: Die zeitlich befristete Nutzung der DOP-Daten beinhaltet das Recht, die während der Testphase erhobenen Vektordaten im OSM-Projekt dauerhaft und frei zu nutzen. Dummerweise habe ich mich bei einem anderen Projekt - nachdem es mit den Wandertafeln so einen Stress gab (weil da nicht steht CC-by-SA), dazu hinreissen lassen, eben dieses CC-by-SA in den Vertrag zu schreiben... Gruss, Markus ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] guidepost
PRINT Denn nur, weil sie im selben Gebäude sind, bedeutet das nicht, dass sie in der Datenbank auch nur durch einen Punkt repräsentiert werden dürfen. :LOOP REPLY AS MIRKO Und jetzt bitte nicht wieder das leidige Semikolon. Das kann funktionieren wenn... REPLY AS THOMAS Zwei verschiedene Dinge benötigen zwei verschiedene Nodes. GOTO LOOP -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/guidepost-tp4386064p4392472.html Sent from the OpenStreetMap Deutschland mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] guidepost
Hallo Mirko, Denn nur, weil sie im selben Gebäude sind, bedeutet das nicht, dass sie in der Datenbank auch nur durch einen Punkt repräsentiert werden dürfen. Das geht doch teilweise auch nicht anders. Beispiel Postagentur mit Postbank, beides amenity, geht aber nur einmal. Ist das ganze noch im Rathaus untergebracht, hast du gleich drei Konflikte. Dazu kommen vielleicht noch unterschieliche Kontakte, Öffnungszeiten, übliches wie Namen etc. Da fehlt ein tagset oder eine taggroup wo du beliebig viele Keys, eben auch gleiche, als Untereigenschaft zu einem Objekt hinzufügen kannst. Und jetzt bitte nicht wieder das leidige Semikolon. Das kann funktionieren wenn sich wirklich alle peinlichst daran halten das Schlüssel1=Wert1;Wert2;Wert3 immer genau auf Schlüssel2=Wert1;Wert2;Wert3 passt. Unachtsamkeit, ein Flüchtigkeitsfehler, eine Systembedingte sortierung whatever und schon kann folgendes rauskommen Schlüssel1=Wert3;Wert2;Wert1 mit Schlüssel2=Wert2;Wert1;Wert3. Das wird bis auf den Erfasser selbst nie einer merken. Und schon würde beispielsweise bei der Postagentur im Rathaus auf der Postkarte die Telefonzentrale vom Rathaus bei der Postagentur angezeit, oder die Sprechzeiten des Rathauses als Öffnungszeiten. Semikolon ist in dem Fall keine Lösung. Ich bin mir nicht ganz sicher, ob Deine Nachricht als Zustimmung oder als Widerspruch gemeint ist - denn eigentlich sind wir doch gleicher Meinung?! Zusammenfassung *meiner* *Meinung*: Mehrere Objekte mit einem einzigen Node darstellen zu wollen ist sehr kompliziert und unübersichtlich. Es ist daher einfacher, für jedes Objekt einen einzelnen Node zu setzen. Gruss, Thomas ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] Daily Updates to CloudMade Routing
Sinngemäße Übersetzung: Viele Verwenden das Routing auf http://maps.cloudmade.com um Fehler im Routing zu finden. Als Rückmeldung dazu hat Cloudmade häufig zwei Punkte genannt bekommen: 1 - Die Routingdaten sind oft mehrere Tage veraltet 2 - Abbiegeeinschränkungen werden nicht berücksichtigt. Seit dieser Woche werden die Routinginformationen alle 24 Stunden aktualisiert. Dabei werden um 17 Uhr deutscher Zeit die Daten des vorherigen Tages eingespielt. Am Freitag, 14. Januar um 17:00 werden also die Daten aus der OSM-Datenbank am Freitag, 14. Januar 1:00 eingespielt. Der Prozess kann je nach Datenaufkommen unterschiedlich lange dauern. Abbiegeeinschränkungen - Cloudmade arbeitet daran, alle auf deren Bugtracker gemeldeten Fehler zu beheben. Fehler und Wünsche können hier mitgeteilt werden: http://developers.cloudmade.com/projects/routing-http-api/issues Claudius Am 14.01.2010 12:10, Nick Black: Hi guys, Some of you use CloudMade's routing to debug your mapping. We've had a lot of feedback that though useful, there are two problems: 1 - The routing is out of date, often lagging many days behind 2 - There are bugs with turn restrictions As of this week, we are updating routing every 24 hours which should help with checking mapping and finding errors. Routing should update by early evening GMT (16.00 is the target time) with data from the previous day. So at 16:00 on Friday 15th Dec, routing will have data up to 00:00 on Friday 15th Dec. This is a new service, so exact completion times for the import will probably vary. Turn restrictions - we are working on bug fixes for all of the turn restriction problems that exist on our bug tracker. You can report bugs and request features here: http://developers.cloudmade.com/projects/routing-http-api/issues Happy mapping. ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
