Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Estimate of number of building=* in Ireland

[Dave Corley]

The fact that so many buildings are being mapped as building=yes when more
accurate tagging is plainly obvious makes this an utterly frustrating
project.

Saying that others can come along after and correct it is a totally
avoidable requirement by using more appropriate tagging in the first place.
Its also unlike to ever get corrected as evidenced by the volume of data in
Ireland that was created and never improved upon.

The logical approach should be to map it as house/garage/shed etc and ONLY
use building=yes if you cannot make an educated guess.

Doing otherwise puts this data on the level of the tiger import.



On Thu, May 14, 2020 at 1:04 PM Colm Moore  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Apologies, there was something else I meant to mention.
>
> Some locations have a very low number of building polygons per capita
> (i.e. implying high number of people per building). This may be
> **suggestive** of locations that are under-mapped. This bears out in some
> of suburbs on the Kilkenny side of Waterford city, where there are lots of
> unmappable (tree cover and fuzzy images) garden sheds, etc. There are other
> reasons for this, like apartment buildings, terraced houses mapped as
> building=terrace, etc.
>
> On Wed, 13 May 2020 at 14:38, Donie Kelly  wrote:
>
> > Don’t buildings have tags? Did I see a residential tag? Is it used in all
> > cases?
>
> Yes, buildings can be given detailed descriptions, e.g. building=house,
> building=apartments. However, about half of the buildings on the island
> just use building=yes. Only saying building=yes gets the building on the
> map quickly, makes them readily findable and lets other mappers fill in
> details later. Not all buildings are readily identifiable from aerial
> images and details like number of storeys can be even harder to determine.
>
> Note that building=residential can be used for buildings that
> are residential, but the type isn't readily identifiable, e.g. I saw some
> semi-detached houses in Kilkenny that were attached back-to-back instead of
> side-to-side.
>
> Interpreting the total number of buildings on the island from the total
> number of, say houses, would be more complicated than comparing number of
> buildings in Kilkenny to the number of buildings on the island.
>
> On Thu, 14 May 2020 11:47:29 Tadeusz Cantwell  wrote:
>
> > The residential tag should be used for an area not a house.
>
> Yes, landuse=residential should be used for residential sites / estates /
> neighbourhoods. The iD editor now supports additional sub-tags,
> e.g. residential=rural, residential=apartments and residential=halting_site
> You can also add name=* to the likes of housing estates, which can help
> detail the hierarchy of a town.
>
> Colm
>
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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Next Galway OpenStreetMap event - Date changed to Mar 28th - Now cancelled

[Dave Corley]

Folks,

As the University will be closed due to Covid-19 containment, the planned
OSM meetup on Mar 28th is cancelled.

No further Galway events are planned at this time. Once things settle down
we'll schedule something and let you know.

Thank you for your understanding,
Dave

On Tue, Mar 3, 2020 at 12:57 AM Dave Corley  wrote:

> Hi folks,
>
> Just to make you aware the date for the next OSM workshop in Galway has
> been pushed back by 2 weeks and changed to Sat Mar 28th.
>
> Location is still the Insight Center and the hours are 11am to 3pm.
>
> Looking forward to seeing you all there.
>
> Thanks,
> Dave
>
> On Sun, Feb 16, 2020 at 9:45 PM Dave Corley  wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Just to let you know that the next OpenStreetMap event in Galway is
>> happening on Sat 14th Mar from 11am-3pm in the Insight Centre in Dangan.
>>
>> The previous event you attended was mainly about introducing you and
>> others to OpenStreetMap and I also touched on some of the additional things
>> you can utilise in the OSM ecosystem.
>>
>> This time around, the focus will be more on getting you actively mapping
>> as its the starting point for all other activities e.g. data extraction,
>> map creation etc.
>>
>> I'll also open up the floor to others to get ideas of what people want to
>> see. This can be anything from "how do I map X, Y or Z" to "how do I create
>> a map showing all the X, Y & Z in a specific area". With that in mind,
>> please come along with ideas, questions and comments of your own on the
>> day.
>>
>> I hope to see you there again and feel free to bring along a friend or
>> two, the event is open to all. One thing I ask, just to have an idea of
>> numbers, is to register at the link below if you are attending.
>>
>>
>> https://www.eventbrite.com/e/galway-openstreetmap-event-tickets-95116677543
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Dave
>>
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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Next Galway OpenStreetMap event - Date changed to Mar 28th

[Dave Corley]

No problem Brendan, I'll let everyone know

On Thu 12 Mar 2020, 12:23 Brendan Smith, 
wrote:

> Dave a chara,
> It has just been announced within the last hour by Leo Varadkar that all
> schools and colleges will be shut down today until the end of the month.
> Unfortunately we therefore have no choice but to cancel the March 28th
> OpenStreetMap workshop. So many of us were looking forward to it. We will
> contact you again about an alternative date once the situation is
> clarified.
>
> Le meas,
>
> Brendan
>
> On Tue, 3 Mar 2020 at 00:58, Dave Corley  wrote:
>
>> Hi folks,
>>
>> Just to make you aware the date for the next OSM workshop in Galway has
>> been pushed back by 2 weeks and changed to Sat Mar 28th.
>>
>> Location is still the Insight Center and the hours are 11am to 3pm.
>>
>> Looking forward to seeing you all there.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Dave
>>
>> On Sun, Feb 16, 2020 at 9:45 PM Dave Corley  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Just to let you know that the next OpenStreetMap event in Galway is
>>> happening on Sat 14th Mar from 11am-3pm in the Insight Centre in Dangan.
>>>
>>> The previous event you attended was mainly about introducing you and
>>> others to OpenStreetMap and I also touched on some of the additional things
>>> you can utilise in the OSM ecosystem.
>>>
>>> This time around, the focus will be more on getting you actively mapping
>>> as its the starting point for all other activities e.g. data extraction,
>>> map creation etc.
>>>
>>> I'll also open up the floor to others to get ideas of what people want
>>> to see. This can be anything from "how do I map X, Y or Z" to "how do I
>>> create a map showing all the X, Y & Z in a specific area". With that in
>>> mind, please come along with ideas, questions and comments of your own on
>>> the day.
>>>
>>> I hope to see you there again and feel free to bring along a friend or
>>> two, the event is open to all. One thing I ask, just to have an idea of
>>> numbers, is to register at the link below if you are attending.
>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.eventbrite.com/e/galway-openstreetmap-event-tickets-95116677543
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Dave
>>>
>>
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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] How to tag gates to public parks that are only open during daylight hours

[Dave Corley]

Hi Neil,

I'm not sure about the moderator approval but it's possible that was
because you hadn't registered for the mailing list maybe.

As for your tagging question, the gate is tagged as barrier=gate as per the
page below

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:barrier%3Dgate

With the restriction tagged using the access key per the below page,
specifically the access time section.

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:access

Alternatively you could map the gate and then simply add opening hours to
the park itself, might be a simpler solution and one that is a lot easier
to understand from an end user perspective

Hope that helps

Dave

On Wed 4 Mar 2020, 23:13 Neil O'Byrne,  wrote:

> At the end of January I posted a message on Talk-ie on how to tag gates to
> public parks that are only open during daylight hours, i.e. not on a fixed
> weekly or monthly time schedule. I got a return email that my message to
> Talk-ie awaits moderator approval.  I've received no message  since and I
> am
> still unclear on how to tag gates to public parks open during daylight
> hours
> only or if my message was reviewed and not approved.
>
>
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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Next Galway OpenStreetMap event - Date changed to Mar 28th

[Dave Corley]

Hi folks,

Just to make you aware the date for the next OSM workshop in Galway has
been pushed back by 2 weeks and changed to Sat Mar 28th.

Location is still the Insight Center and the hours are 11am to 3pm.

Looking forward to seeing you all there.

Thanks,
Dave

On Sun, Feb 16, 2020 at 9:45 PM Dave Corley  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Just to let you know that the next OpenStreetMap event in Galway is
> happening on Sat 14th Mar from 11am-3pm in the Insight Centre in Dangan.
>
> The previous event you attended was mainly about introducing you and
> others to OpenStreetMap and I also touched on some of the additional things
> you can utilise in the OSM ecosystem.
>
> This time around, the focus will be more on getting you actively mapping
> as its the starting point for all other activities e.g. data extraction,
> map creation etc.
>
> I'll also open up the floor to others to get ideas of what people want to
> see. This can be anything from "how do I map X, Y or Z" to "how do I create
> a map showing all the X, Y & Z in a specific area". With that in mind,
> please come along with ideas, questions and comments of your own on the
> day.
>
> I hope to see you there again and feel free to bring along a friend or
> two, the event is open to all. One thing I ask, just to have an idea of
> numbers, is to register at the link below if you are attending.
>
> https://www.eventbrite.com/e/galway-openstreetmap-event-tickets-95116677543
>
> Thanks,
> Dave
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[OSM-talk-ie] Fwd: Next Galway OpenStreetMap event - Sat 14th Mar

[Dave Corley]

FYI, the next Galway meetup is scheduled for Saturday Mar 14th at the
Insight Centre.

It would be great to see some of you there if anyone fancies making the
drive to Galway.

Thanks,
Dave

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From: Dave Corley 
Date: Sun, Feb 16, 2020 at 9:45 PM
Subject: Next Galway OpenStreetMap event - Sat 14th Mar
To:


Hi,

Just to let you know that the next OpenStreetMap event in Galway is
happening on Sat 14th Mar from 11am-3pm in the Insight Centre in Dangan.

The previous event you attended was mainly about introducing you and others
to OpenStreetMap and I also touched on some of the additional things you
can utilise in the OSM ecosystem.

This time around, the focus will be more on getting you actively mapping as
its the starting point for all other activities e.g. data extraction, map
creation etc.

I'll also open up the floor to others to get ideas of what people want to
see. This can be anything from "how do I map X, Y or Z" to "how do I create
a map showing all the X, Y & Z in a specific area". With that in mind,
please come along with ideas, questions and comments of your own on the
day.

I hope to see you there again and feel free to bring along a friend or two,
the event is open to all. One thing I ask, just to have an idea of numbers,
is to register at the link below if you are attending.

https://www.eventbrite.com/e/galway-openstreetmap-event-tickets-95116677543

Thanks,
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[OSM-talk-ie] Cool little analysis tool for buildings etc added recently

[Dave Corley]

Came across this in the weekly OSM newsletter

https://disaster.ninja/live/#overlays=bivariate-custom_kontur_openstreetmap_building_quantity,osm-users,alert-shape;id=GDACS_TC_1000654_4;position=-8.259337816676748,53.37099688572246;zoom=6.6242483285957965;layer=default-style


You can play around with the settings on the right and the further you zoom
in the more usernames show up

Enjoy!

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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] OSM at LoveDataWeek 2020 - Maynooth University

[Dave Corley]

Umap is another good one to use for those who want to overlay additional
data / information onto a base map

On Sat 8 Feb 2020, 14:51 Peter Mooney,  wrote:

> Hello everyone,
>
> I'm giving a general overview talk about OpenStreetMap in Maynooth
> University next week, as part of Love Data Week 2020. Details are here [1].
>
> I only have an hour so I want to show attendees what kinds of applications
> OpenStreetMap is being used for in Ireland and beyond. This will include
> quick examples of downloading data, using Turbo Overpass online, and a very
> basic map using Leaflet. I'll be showing the work of OSM IE (example the
> recent Kilkenny work), Townlands, Hieki's visualisations, etc.
>
> If you have any other really interesting examples of OSM use which would be
> good for a general audience, please let me know and I'd be delighted to
> include it.
>
> I will make my slides openly available in ODP format afterwards, if they
> are useful for someone else.
>
> With every best wish,
>
> Peter
>
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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Ireland within the OSM Community Index

[Dave Corley]

That's great Andy, thanks for sorting it out

On Mon 3 Feb 2020, 00:12 Andy Townsend,  wrote:

> On 30/01/2020 14:33, Donal Hunt wrote:
> > Sounds goods to me and will reduce duplication.
> >
> OK - done.  The change is at:
>
>
> https://github.com/SomeoneElseOSM/osm-community-index/tree/Add_Ireland_geojson
>
> the geojson is:
>
>
> https://github.com/SomeoneElseOSM/osm-community-index/blob/Add_Ireland_geojson/features/europe/ireland/ireland.geojson
>
> which looks like;
>
> https://map.atownsend.org.uk/tmp/Screenshot_20200203_57.png
>
> If everyone's happy with that I'll create a pull request for
> https://github.com/osmlab/osm-community-index
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Andy
>
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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Tagging in the building tasks

[Dave Corley]

Thanks for that deeper analysis Colm, yes, if you know this person it's
better if you make contact, and yes, I agree, trojan work done by this
mapper.

I used the analytics tool here -  http://osm-analytics.org/#/

To mitigate against this in the future and to get the most out of the
tasks, it might be worthwhile putting together a more descriptive set of
instructions for the tasks which should change the stats from 90% "yes" to
less than 10% as "yes". Later on we could utilise maproulette to create a
challenge to further refine the tagging on those buildings mapped as "yes".

On Sat, Jan 25, 2020 at 9:54 PM Colm Moore  wrote:

> Hi
>
> I think much of the mapping recently in Kilkenny has been down to a single
> user who, like anyone, might not appreciate the issue or have the skillset
> to identify or map different building types. They may have misinterpreted
> "Map all the buildings!". There are certain features where many users, even
> experience ones, just add basic tagging. Others will come back and fill in
> the details.
>
> b-unicycling has created 222,594 new nodes and 36,218 buildings in the
> last **two months** and is currently the busiest mapper in Ireland, while
> essentially only mapping in Kilkenny. In 6 years, I've only ever created
> 633,133 new nodes, but I've 1,157,614 map changes, so we have very
> different mapping styles. b-unicycling is mapping lots of features an the
> prompts in ID for the last four features is less useful for this style of
> mapping. A direct contact might be useful - I can do that if you like, as
> b-unicycling and I have chatted before. If  b-unicycling is on this mailing
> list, well done in you mapping.
>
> ID has become more friendly recently to doing large scale editing as you
> can now add several tags in one copy & paste action. Select a feature and
> in the left hand panel, at "All tags" there are buttons for "list" and
> "text". It means that with, for example, a housing estate (with identical
> roads), once the lines of all the roads are mapped, adding road type, speed
> limit, lanes, surface, etc. just becomes a copy & paste exercise.
>
> http://stat.latlon.org/ has an error for Ireland and Northern Ireland at
> the moment. Could I ask where you get the stats?
>
> Colm
> VictorIE
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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Tagging in the building tasks

[Dave Corley]

With regards it being easier, it is if you don't opt to make it easier to
do otherwise at the outset.

For example, using iD, your last 4 tags applied appear each time you create
a new feature. You only need use house/shed/garage/farm_auxiliary once for
them to appear. In fact you have to do the same level of effort as to only
use building=yes.

In JOSM, there's a few ways to go to achieve the same or better

I guess the thing is whether this is a result by design or is it an
unintended consequence.

If its by design, then I would argue that the design could be improved.

If its an unintended consequence, then its just a matter of sorting it out.

Don't get me wrong, I think it great that there is a new task to focus the
local community.

Dave


On Sat 25 Jan 2020, 09:12 Mateusz Konieczny via Talk-ie, <
talk-ie@openstreetmap.org> wrote:

>
> Tagging everything as houses without
> checking would be wrong.
>
> This way you damage data and turns
> building=house into duplicate of
> building=yes
>
> Please, do not make this kind of thing.
> 25 Jan 2020, 09:51 by n...@sqrt.co.uk:
> > Since the majority of buildings are houses, you could mass tag them all
> as houses since that would be the least wrong tagging overall.
> >
> > On Sat, 25 Jan 2020, 08:48 Mateusz Konieczny via Talk-ie, <>
> talk-ie@openstreetmap.org> > wrote:
> >
> >> It is typically much faster to add just
> >>  geometries. Maybe whoever was doing
> >>  this is not so interested in value of
> >>  building tag?
> >>
> >>  Or maybe a mistake was made somewhere?
> >>
> >>  25 Jan 2020, 09:43 by >> davecor...@gmail.com>> :
> >>
> >>  > I'll rephrase the question.
> >>  >
> >>  > Why are these buildings being tagged with the least descriptive tag
> rather than utilising a more descriptive tag which can be easily done in
> approx 90% of cases from imagery?
> >>  >
> >>  > As I said, maybe I'm missing something here and there is a logical
> explanation as to why this is being done, I just can't see it.
> >>  >
> >>  > Dave
> >>  >
> >>  >
> >>  > On Sat 25 Jan 2020, 07:51 Mateusz Konieczny via Talk-ie, <> >>
> talk-ie@openstreetmap.org>> > > wrote:
> >>  >
> >>  >> 24 Jan 2020, 23:05 by >> >> davecor...@gmail.com>> >> :
> >>  >>
> >>  >>  > I'm wondering if there is something I'm missing here. Why are we
> not
> >>  >>  > tagging buildings with the correct tagging?
> >>  >>  >
> >>  >>  building=yes is correct
> >>  >>
> >>  >>  Adding specific building type is also
> >>  >>  correct and desirable, but mapping all
> >>  >>  buildings as building=yes is also correct
> >>  >>
> >>  >>  mapping just landuse=residential without
> >>  >>  mapping any buildings is also correct
> >>  >>  Similarly, mapping shops just with
> >>  >>  shop typeshop=convenience/supermarket/etc
> >>  >>  without specifying name=*, opening_hours=*
> >>  >>  and other similar tags is also correct.
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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Tagging in the building tasks

[Dave Corley]

I'll rephrase the question.

Why are these buildings being tagged with the least descriptive tag rather
than utilising a more descriptive tag which can be easily done in approx
90% of cases from imagery?

As I said, maybe I'm missing something here and there is a logical
explanation as to why this is being done, I just can't see it.

Dave


On Sat 25 Jan 2020, 07:51 Mateusz Konieczny via Talk-ie, <
talk-ie@openstreetmap.org> wrote:

> 24 Jan 2020, 23:05 by davecor...@gmail.com:
>
> > I'm wondering if there is something I'm missing here. Why are we not
> > tagging buildings with the correct tagging?
> >
> building=yes is correct
>
> Adding specific building type is also
> correct and desirable, but mapping all
> buildings as building=yes is also correct
>
> mapping just landuse=residential without
> mapping any buildings is also correct
> Similarly, mapping shops just with
> shop typeshop=convenience/supermarket/etc
> without specifying name=*, opening_hours=*
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[OSM-talk-ie] Tagging in the building tasks

[Dave Corley]

Hi,

Recently I was playing around with the openstreetmap analytics tool,
looking at various stats for mapped features in Ireland and I noticed
something odd.

Taking Kilkenny as an example, there have been 45,000 buildings mapped in
that county done recently with the advent of the "Map Irelands Buildings"
tasks, however when I drilled down a bit I found the tagging to be as
follows

building=yes 86%
building=house 10%
building=farm_auxiliary 1%
building=greenhouse 1%
building=shed <1%
building=ruins <1%
building=residential <1%
building=garage <1%
building=farm <1%
building=construction <1%

This shows almost all buildings have been tagged with the basic
building=yes tag.

See here -
http://osm-analytics.org/#/show/polygon:fcbn%40avt%60Igxv%40v%7C_AquaBksImgUgxQdzRub%5Ez%7Df%40w%60m%40%60b%60BvtI/buildings/recency

Comparing this to a portion of East Galway that i have been tipping along
at over the last while, the breakdown is as follows

building=house 63%
building=garage 16%
building=farm_auxiliary 10%
building=yes 7%
building=shed 2%
building=farm 1%
building=school <1%
building=church <1%
building=retail <1%
building=static_caravan <1%

As you can see, only 7% are tagged with building=yes as it is pretty
obvious from imagery what the correct tag should be for each mapped
building and building=yes is only used when it's not possible to say with a
high degree of certainty what other tag should be used.

See here -
http://osm-analytics.org/#/show/polygon:beiv%40ggicImk_%40va%40s%7BCsiIwwE_sDhCy%7BDh_L_tDf~Qpw%40/buildings/recency

When I look at the task instructions for Kilkenny here -
https://tasks.openstreetmap.ie/project/4 it states "As a minimum capture
the shape and size of every type of building. Mark as building=yes OR
indicate type of use, and address if known from local knowledge or street
imagery".

I'm wondering if there is something I'm missing here. Why are we not
tagging buildings with the correct tagging?

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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Time-lapse video of map edits

[Dave Corley]

That's a class animation John

On Fri 29 Nov 2019, 17:26 John Kennedy,  wrote:

> Powerful stuff Heikki. Will give it a whirl when I get a chance. Best of
> luck to those in Kilkenny tomorrow
>  - John
>
> On Thu, 28 Nov 2019 at 23:11, Heikki Vesanto 
> wrote:
>
> > Hi John,
> >
> > Looks great! Good work.
> >
> > Using the actual added dates is a bit trickier.
> >
> > You need the full history extracts for that. Then you can loop through
> > it with osmium-tools essentially creating a snapshot. This can be done
> > for example with python.
> >
> > I wrote a guide on it:
> > https://gisforthought.com/creating-openstreetmap-history-visualisations/
> >
> > But the visualization part should work the same as you did here, with
> > QGIS and the time manager plugin.
> >
> > -Heikki
> >
> > On Thu, Nov 28, 2019 at 10:50 PM John Kennedy 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi. I was able to generate a time-lapse video but it is based on the
> time
> > > data was last edited rather than the time the data was first added.
> > >
> > > Packaged it up and available here in case anyone finds it useful:
> > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7xTAJ2j8gI
> > >
> > > Has anyone suggestions on how to download data from OSM that includes
> > time
> > > info (for processing in QGIS)?
> > >
> > > Thanks/
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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] OSM workshop at Science Week NUIG This Saturday

[Dave Corley]

Hi all,

Quick update, I have gotten word from the organiser that there are 18
people so far signed up for the workshop so, yeah, if anyone wants to come
along to help get some newbies trained up it would be GREATLY appreciated.

Dave

On Wed 20 Nov 2019, 23:32 Dave Corley,  wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Just wanted to let you know that I will be doing an OSM workshop at
> Science Week in NUIG (Insight Center) this Saturday. The workshop runs from
> 11am to 2:30pm with a break around 12:30 I think.
>
> If anyone is around this Saturday and would like to come along please do
> so. Especially if you know the basics of mapping as you could assist with
> getting people up and running. I've no idea how many are attending as yet
> but I'm guessing it will be busy.
>
> Thanks
> Dave
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[OSM-talk-ie] OSM workshop at Science Week NUIG This Saturday

[Dave Corley]

Hi all,

Just wanted to let you know that I will be doing an OSM workshop at Science
Week in NUIG (Insight Center) this Saturday. The workshop runs from 11am to
2:30pm with a break around 12:30 I think.

If anyone is around this Saturday and would like to come along please do
so. Especially if you know the basics of mapping as you could assist with
getting people up and running. I've no idea how many are attending as yet
but I'm guessing it will be busy.

Thanks
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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] What are your 'must map' features?

[Dave Corley]

Great idea for a topic Colm!

For me it depends. For example, when I'm sitting at the desk and mapping in
JOSM, then my aim is completeness of physical features, so mapping
everything I see on the imagery, then switching on the old scanned maps to
see if there's anything historical I can add, and finally to add any
applicable wikidata references.

When I'm out and about, its bike infrastructure. Bike parking, shops,
lanes, etc.

Dave

On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 12:29 AM Seán Lynch  wrote:

> Litter
>
> Very accessible D:
>
>
> https://openlittermap.com/maps/Ireland/County%20Cork/Cork/map/10-09-19/13-09-19/10
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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] AGM Notice

[Dave Corley]

Sadly I'll be in an Airport en route to Ireland at the time of the AGM but
you can stick me down for membership. I'll do the bank transfer once its up
and running

Dave

On Mon 10 Jun 2019, 08:40 Heikki Vesanto,  wrote:

> We are holding our OpenStreetMap Ireland Company Limited by Guarantee AGM
> this weekend.
>
> Saturday June the 15th, at Tog Hackerspace Dublin.
>
> There is no cost to attend, but if you can RSVP please do as we can judge
> numbers:
>
> https://www.eventbrite.com/e/agm-and-general-information-day-tickets-62233807995
>
> The current board would like to extend an invite to anyone who is keen to
> be a member of the board to let me know by e-mail before Friday the 14th of
> June at: heikki.vesa...@gmail.com
>
> Currently the board consists of five members, with a maximum of seven. In
> the event that we have more than two people interested in joining and all
> five members of the current board decide to stand for election again (so if
> we have more than 7 candidates), we will have an election for the board.
>
> I would encourage everyone to consider joining the board, we are keen to
> increase the diversity of the board in all aspects. The onerous duties of
> setting up the company have been completed, and the new board will be
> focused on expanding the use and visibility of OpenStreetMap across
> Ireland. By running events and projects. The duties are light, with roughly
> once a month board meetings, and attending events where possible.
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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Meetup in Maynooth

[Dave Corley]

Looking forward to it, missed the others

On Thu 2 May 2019, 23:19 Ciarán Staunton,  wrote:

> Hi
> Just reminding you all that there is a meetup in *Maynooth this Saturday*
> morning.
>
> Sign up here using the eventbrite link: https://bit.ly/2GPVNKM
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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] OSMIE tiles not working

[Dave Corley]

Many thanks Donal and others for spending the time to sort out and improve
this service

On Thu 21 Feb 2019, 00:50 Vincent Privat, 
wrote:

> Everything's running fine now, thanks a lot!
>
> Le dim. 17 févr. 2019 à 16:38, Patrick Matthews 
> a
> écrit :
>
> > Dónal,
> >
> > Many thanks for all your work.
> >
> > Paddy Matthews.
> >
> > On Sun, Feb 17, 2019 at 12:52 PM Donal Hunt 
> wrote:
> >
> > > Finally found some more time to restore all of the overlay layers that
> > were
> > > broken...
> > >
> > > Should all be fully operational now.
> > > Regards
> > >
> > > Donal
> > >
> > > On Wed, 26 Dec 2018 at 18:15, Donal Hunt  wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi Vincent!
> > > >
> > > > This is a known issues as we migrate services over to a new VM
> (taking
> > > > longer than expected due to volunteer availability). The good news is
> > > that
> > > > I'm actively working on restoring those layers over the holiday
> period
> > > (the
> > > > /ed/ layer is already back).
> > > > You can reach me via this address or on #osm-ie (OFTC IRC network) if
> > > > needed.
> > > >
> > > > All the best!
> > > >
> > > > Donal
> > > >
> > > > On Sat, 22 Dec 2018 at 22:17, Vincent Privat <
> > > > vinc...@josm.openstreetmap.de> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >>  Hello,
> > > >> We recently started to check validity of imagery entries listed on
> > JOSM
> > > >> wiki:
> > > >> https://josm.openstreetmap.de/wiki/Maps/Ireland
> > > >>
> > > >> It appears at least three OSMIE overlay layers are not working:
> > > >> - https://tile.openstreetmap.ie/barony/{zoom}/{x}/{y}.png
> > > >> - https://tile.openstreetmap.ie/civilparish/{zoom}/{x}/{y}.png
> > > >> - https://tile.openstreetmap.ie/ed/{zoom}/{x}/{y}.png
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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] New Local Electoral Areas 2018

[Dave Corley]

Hi,

Can I ask a stupid question or two

Why do we need to reflect previous ed boundaries?

Is OSM the right place to store that info?

Could someone reuse that data later in the same manner they use the current
boundary data?

Is it just a "nice to have" bit of info?

Dave


On Tue 12 Feb 2019, 13:31 Colm Moore  Hi,
>
> Those two seem fine, although the names of two the constituent EDs are
> slightly different between the SI and OSM,
>
> SI: Dun Laoghaire-Sallynoggin West
> OSM: Dun Laoghaire Sallynoggin West ED
>
> SI: Dun Laoghaire-Sandycove
> OSM: Dún Laoghaire-Sandycove ED
>
> I would add the year to the name=* and alt_name=* fields. You could add a
> link to the SI (some SIs may only be available as PDFs).
>
> There are two orders each for Louth, Meath and Wicklow, which amend some
> names.
>
> Note that the boundary of Cork City is radically different and that the
> European constituencies will be Brexit dependent.
>
> List of orders for all councils below.
>
> Colm
>
> 2019 http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/eli/2019/si
> 6  County Of Louth Local Electoral Areas And Municipal Districts
> (Amendment) Order 2019
> 7 County Of Wicklow Local Electoral Areas And Municipal Districts
> (Amendment) Order 2019
> 8 County Of Meath Local Electoral Areas And Municipal Districts
> (Amendment) Order 2019
> 27 City Of Cork Local Electoral Areas Order 2019
> 28 County Of Cork Local Electoral Areas And Municipal Districts Order 2019
>
> 2018 http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/eli/2018/si
> 610 County of Carlow Local Electoral Areas and Municipal Districts Order
> 2018.
> 611 County of Cavan Local Electoral Areas and Municipal Districts Order
> 2018.
> 612 County of Clare Local Electoral Areas and Municipal Districts Order
> 2018.
> 613 County of Donegal Local Electoral Areas and Municipal Districts Order
> 2018.
> 614 City of Dublin Local Electoral Areas Order 2018.
> 615 County of Dun Laoghaire-Rathdown Local Electoral Areas Order 2018.
> 616 County of Fingal Local Electoral Areas Order 2018.
> 617 City of Galway Local Electoral Areas Order 2018.
> 618 County of Galway Local Electoral Areas and Municipal Districts Order
> 2018.
> 619 County of Kerry Local Electoral Areas and Municipal Districts Order
> 2018.
> 620 County of Kildare Local Electoral Areas and Municipal Districts Order
> 2018.
> 621 County of Kilkenny Local Electoral Areas and Municipal Districts Order
> 2018.
> 622 County of Laois Local Electoral Areas and Municipal Districts Order
> 2018.
> 623 County of Leitrim Local Electoral Areas and Municipal Districts Order
> 2018.
> 624 City and County of Limerick Local Electoral Areas and Municipal
> Districts Order 2018.
> 625 County of Longford Local Electoral Areas and Municipal Districts Order
> 2018.
> 626 County of Louth Local Electoral Areas and Municipal Districts Order
> 2018.
> 627 County of Mayo Local Electoral Areas and Municipal Districts Order
> 2018.
> 628 County of Meath Local Electoral Areas and Municipal Districts Order
> 2018.
> 629 County of Monaghan Local Electoral Areas and Municipal Districts Order
> 2018.
> 630 County of Offaly Local Electoral Areas and Municipal Districts Order
> 2018.
> 631 County of Roscommon Local Electoral Areas and Municipal Districts
> Order 2018.
> 632 County of Sligo Local Electoral Areas and Municipal Districts Order
> 2018.
> 633 County of South Dublin Local Electoral Areas Order 2018.
> 634 County of Tipperary Local Electoral Areas and Municipal Districts
> Order 2018.
> 635 City and County of Waterford Local Electoral Areas and Municipal
> Districts Order 2018.
> 636 County of Westmeath Local Electoral Areas and Municipal Districts
> Order 2018.
> 637 County of Wexford Local Electoral Areas and Municipal Districts Order
> 2018.
> 638 County of Wicklow Local Electoral Areas and Municipal Districts Order
> 2018.
>
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>
> 
>
> Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2019 19:54:02 +
> From: Brian Hollinshead 
> Subject: [OSM-talk-ie] New Local Electoral Areas 2018
>
>
> It is four years since the last change in LEAs.
> Last Summer a boundary commission issued new proposals and in December new
> Statutory Instruments were issued. I learnt today of the references for the
> four Dublin areas.
> SI 614 2018 Dublin City
> SI 615 2018 DLR
> SI 616 2018 Fingal
> SI 633 2018  South Dublin.
>
> see
> https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.irishstatutebook.ie%2Feli%2F2018%2Fsi%2F615%2Fmade%2Fen%2Fprintdata=02%7C01%7C%7C41832eb9946d4b1fd2e408d690e1e94d%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636855697280392670sdata=vdkeB8mLpvd1ldEe52xVtNJsCrSlJTRvW0%2FRNC9tzaE%3Dreserved=0
>
> Some areas have remained unchanged while others have had EDs moved from one
> LEA to a 

Re: [OSM-talk-ie] OSM IRL meeting in Dublin

[Dave Corley]

Fantastic write up Brian. Can this be added as a post on the site?

On Sat 24 Nov 2018, 16:16 Brian Hollinshead  Just back from the meeting, some interesting and useful discussion as
> usual.
> Ciaran did a presentation on the simplicity of Mapmillary. This was
> followed later on by a quick walk around the locality by four teams on
> foot. Then uploading the resulting images on our return. Ciaran talked
> about adding natural and man-made details to the map as well as roads using
> the Mapillary plugin on JOSM to indicate the valuable source these images
> are for adding
>
> There was a demonstration of using overass_turbo.eu to extract various
> data
> sets, save it and then import it into a multilayered u.map. Like using
> leaflet but with no knowledge of code or grammar needed, it suits me very
> well. Our thanks to OSM France who host the site.
> Two example shown include u.osmfr.org/m/161139 which shows 6 of the
> boundaries named Rathvilly which enclose Rathvilly Village and
> u.osmfr.org/m/180392 with numerous layers showing Superintendent
> Registrars
> Districts and Registrars District on the east coast. These are particularly
> useful to historians and those interested in genealogy. The relations can
> be easily built as all the pieces of townland boundary are already there.
>
> Arising from talk about out of copyright maps we viewed
> dublinhistoricmaps.ie which has various georeferenced images from 1700s,
> 1800s and 1900s. Where the features coincide with modern OSM maps is best
> seen by using the slider at the bottom right.
>
> Looking forward to the next meeting to get some answers about the
> desirability or otherwise of adding dates to the names of historical
> boundaries. There just wasn't time today.
>
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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Changes happening to *.openstreetmap.ie resources over the coming nights

[Dave Corley]

Fair play Donal et al for doing this.

Whats the story with the new home? Will the response times be better?

On Fri, Nov 2, 2018 at 1:32 AM Donal Hunt  wrote:

> Hi everyone!
>
> We're in the process of moving services operating as part of *.
> openstreetmap.ie to a new server (so we can retire the old one).
>
>  Here is a non-exhaustive list of what we're aware of:
>
>
>- Maps (maps.openstreetmap.ie)
>- Main map server (https://maps.openstreetmap.ie/)
>   - Irish Language map server (https://maps.openstreetmap.ie/
>   <
> https://maps.openstreetmap.ie/?zoom=7=53.5=-6=00BFFF>
>   )
>   - Boundary map of Ireland (
>   http://dev3.openstreetmap.ie/osm/slippymap.html
>   <
> http://dev3.openstreetmap.ie/osm/slippymap.html?zoom=7=53.5=-6=B00FFF
> >
>   )
>   - Historical Map Server - GSGS 3906 (
>   http://maps.openstreetmap.ie/oocmaps.html?layers=BTF)
>   - Historical Map Server - Bartholomew Quarter Inch to the mile (1:
>   253440) 1940 (
>   http://maps.openstreetmap.ie/oocmaps.html?layers=00B00F)
>   - Historical Map Server - British War Office One Inch to the mile
>   (1:63,360) 1941-43 - (GSGS 4136) (
>   http://maps.openstreetmap.ie/oocmaps.html?0B000F)
>   - Historical Map Server - L.J. Richards & Company Civil Parish and
>   Barony Map of ireland (
>   http://maps.openstreetmap.ie/oocmaps.html?layers=BFFTTFF)
>- Nominatim (nominatim.openstreetmap.ie)
>- Overpass
>- Overpass Turbo (overpass-turbo.openstreetmap.ie)
>- Planet (planet.openstreetmap.ie)
>- Taginfo (taginfo.openstreetmap.ie)
>- Tilservers (tile.openstreetmap.ie, *.tile.openstreetmap.ie)
>- IRCbot
>
>
> planet.openstreetmap.ie was migrated in the past few hours (but may take
> another few hours for DNS caches to refresh).
>
> If you notice anything odd, please feel free to followup to this email,
> shout on #osm-ie (OFTC IRC network) or email me direct. The main focus will
> be on migration and any pre-existing issues will be addressed once the
> migration is complete.
>
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>
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[OSM-talk-ie] Meeting Minutes - 24-Mar

[Dave Corley]

Hi all,

The minutes from Saturdays meeting are available to view at

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1u41p6_sCbmZ8CJPWl8aqhvUMs6cFNtVqY96rPRdSNg8/edit?usp=sharing

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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] OSM IRL Annual General Meeting

[Dave Corley]

Hi,

My answers inline below

   1. What I would like to clear up before the AGM is whether the members
   of this mailing list wish the nominated group to proceed to form the
   company before the AGM, or post the AGM. It may shape how the meeting
takes
   place.

If there will be advice available to assist in the decision making process,
it would make sense to wait.

   2. Also Bob Tallent cannot attend on the 10th March and I think it would
   be better to have him there to facilitate questions. His real value to us
   is advising on what we need to assemble on us. Would the members be ok if
   we postpone the AGM until the 24th? I have checked with Tadeusz and it
   appears that Tog is available on that date.

24th is fine. Again, makes sense to adjust to avail of the support

   3. Also, can those guys who were working on a constitution and memos and
   articles bring these to some advanced stage and propose them for the AGM?

Is the Google drive still the location for these?

Dave



On 28 Feb 2018 21:19, "Ciarán Staunton"  wrote:

Hi All
I am sorry if this is a longer than usual message and I will try to be
brief as there is a lot of ground to cover. And 3 questions at the end.

I have secured (free of charge) the services of Robert Tallent of Synergy
Group. He is a sound person, he has a lot of experience of non-profit and
charity company formation, and provides advice on registration and
compliance for a range of different clients but usually small and
formative. His website is available if your websearch for his name with
"Synergy".

As regards the conversations I have had with Bob I gave him the following
brief (which was what was agreed at the last):
- Which structure will protect the members and directors against legally
liability, and will share the limited liability equally?
- Which structure will closely match the requirements of the Foundation to
be non-for-profit?
- Which structure will allow for the eventual registration as a charity
(enabling donations)
- Which structure might in the future enable seeking a grant or employing
someone

Bob has outlined to me that a Limited Partnership is a dangerous option
unless the lead partner is also a salaried executive director. The optimal
structure to satisfy all these is a *Company Limited by Guarantee (CLG)*.
The CLG once registered can then later seek charitable status from the
regulator, and is also free to apply for grants or other funds. The
understanding of non-for-profit with CLGs is simply to monitor that profit
seeking is not the main objective of the majority of activities, and that
when profits arise there is a plan to re-invest them. The DAC structure is
limiting in the scope of things the company may want to do which is why CLG
is not recommended.


   1. What I would like to clear up before the AGM is whether the members
   of this mailing list wish the nominated group to proceed to form the
   company before the AGM, or post the AGM. It may shape how the meeting
takes
   place.
   2. Also Bob Tallent cannot attend on the 10th March and I think it would
   be better to have him there to facilitate questions. His real value to us
   is advising on what we need to assemble on us. Would the members be ok if
   we postpone the AGM until the 24th? I have checked with Tadeusz and it
   appears that Tog is available on that date.
   3. Also, can those guys who were working on a constitution and memos and
   articles bring these to some advanced stage and propose them for the AGM?

I'm sorry again for the long email. Please speak up on all three. I know
you are all snowbound, so no excuses :)

Ciarán
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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Round towers

[Dave Corley]

Tom's suggestion would be more in line with the norm i.e. Start with a
pre-existing tag and then expand on it



On 19 Feb 2018 21:49, "Donal Hunt"  wrote:

> +1 for the suggestion.
>
> I think a proposal for a specific type that covers Irish round towers is
> probably warranted. Do we know if the design is unique to Ireland or are
> there examples in other parts of the world? Would be a shame to use
> "tower:type=defensive" but it may be the correct approach.
>
> Donal
>
> On 19 Feb 2018 21:43, "Tom Pfeifer"  wrote:
>
> > On 18.02.2018 00:45, Colm Donoghue wrote:
> >
> >> When I looked to see how to tag the round tower there's nothing to
> suggest
> >> that it's an Irish round tower documented in the wiki
> >>
> >> I'm proposing tagging all Irish round towers as
> man_made=irish_round_tower
> >>
> >
> > I'd prefer to start with the more generic man_made=tower, and specify the
> > round tower with tower:type, see https://wiki.openstreetmap.org
> > /wiki/Key:tower:type
> >
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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Clash between Logainm and GNS name spelling

[Dave Corley]

In cases like this the best option is to use name=* and alt_name=*

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Names

On 6 Nov 2017 19:14, "Colm Moore"  wrote:

Hi,


It seems the English-language spelling of the village name is different to
the ED name (which matches GNS). What does one do?


http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/52263371

https://www.logainm.ie/en/1374346

https://www.logainm.ie/en/1167099


Thank you


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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Meeting 25th Nov

[Dave Corley]

Hi Tadeusz,

That's great.

I think the hours today worked well, the finish was early and a break at
the half way point for lunch was good. I'd suggest the same 10-4 again

Thanks again to Tog for hosting

Dave

On 21 Oct 2017 17:15, "Tadeusz Cantwell"  wrote:

> Thanks everyone who came to the meeting to organise OSM Ireland. Tog is
> free on the 25th Nov. If the group are ok with that date I can submit a
> proposal.
>
> What time should be put down to start and finish.
>
> Tad
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[OSM-talk-ie] OSM Ireland - Chapter Formation - Oct 21st at Tog

[Dave Corley]

Hi all,

Apologies, I posted this on Facebook, Twitter and the site but forgot the
mailing list. One of these days I'll remember them all.

The kind folks at Tog have given the all clear for Oct 21st. It will run
from 10am to 4pm.

If anyone is interested in attending, please indicate this on the Facebook
invite or the website booking form. This is purely to get an idea of
numbers so I know what kind of sponsorship to ask for in terms of food &
drink for the event.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/OpenStreetMapIreland/
https://www.openstreetmap.ie/events/openstreetmap-ireland-chapter-formation/

Everyone is welcome and the more the merrier.

It promises to be a full day of discussion, idea's, brainstorming and
hopefully, by the end of the day, the majority of the work being done to
form into an official body.

For those attending, I would suggest to bring a laptop, notepad and pen.

I'll send out more details closer to the time.

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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] OSM Ireland chapter - reboot

[Dave Corley]

John & Donal,

It's definitely a case of the more, the better.

Dave

On 12 Sep 2017 09:03, "John Ronan" <jpron...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I would be interesting in attending as well (From Waterford). If I can
> at all. It would be good to put faces to the names.
>
> Regards
> John
>
> On 11/09/17 21:57, Donal Hunt wrote:
> > I'm certainly interested in attending (based in Cork, Ireland) so need
> some
> > leadtime and ability to travel up for it.  Either Saturday seems good
> right
> > now.
> > Thanks!
> >
> > Donal
> >
> > On Mon, Sep 11, 2017 at 8:22 PM, Dave Corley <davecor...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >> Much appreciated folks.
> >>
> >> Can you let me know when the formal approval is given. I'll set up a
> ticket
> >> booth to track numbers then.
> >>
> >> Thanks again,
> >> Dave
> >>
> >> On 11 Sep 2017 20:08, "Tadeusz Cantwell" <t4d...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> As a member of Tog I can come in early on the 21st to open up and put
> my
> >>> name down to host the event.
> >>> Tad
> >>>
> >>> On 11 September 2017 at 13:39, Dave Corley <davecor...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Hi Jeffrey,
> >>>>
> >>>> A 4pm finish might not be a bad idea especially for those traveling.
> >>> Would
> >>>> it be possible to start earlier? Say 10 or 11? I'm just mindful that
> >>> there
> >>>> will be a lot of things to go through and I would like to leave time
> >> for
> >>>>  discussions. On the other hand, I don't want to inconvenience you (or
> >>>> other Tog members) too much as you are doing us a favour.
> >>>>
> >>>> Dave
> >>>>
> >>>> On Mon, Sep 11, 2017 at 12:59 PM, Jeffrey Roe <tdr...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>>>> There is an internal event on the 21st that starts at 4pm. So you
> >>>>> would need to finish up then or run it on the 14th.
> >>>>> An event takes 5 days for Tog to approve and you need a member to
> >> host
> >>>>> you.  I could possible do the 21st but you would need someone else to
> >>>>> host if you wanted the 14th.
> >>>>> Jeffrey Roe,
> >>>>> www.tog.ie
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 11 September 2017 at 10:41, Dave Corley <davecor...@gmail.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>>>> Hi all,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Rounding back on this again. Between the responses on the mail
> >> list,
> >>>>>> Facebook and previous surveys, the general consensus is to go ahead
> >>>> with
> >>>>>> this.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Martin, sorry for not replying to you earlier, but I wanted to stay
> >>>> quiet
> >>>>>> and see what others thought first. To your point, yes, its possible
> >>> to
> >>>> do
> >>>>>> everything I stated outside of a formal body, but given we are an
> >>>>> informal
> >>>>>> grouping of similarly minded folks for over a decade and
> >>> organisational
> >>>>>> interest/involvement is decreasing rather than increasing, I think
> >>> its
> >>>>>> necessary to do this if we are to ever become "more". Your comment
> >>>> about
> >>>>>> there being a functioning group is bang on the money too. Right
> >> now I
> >>>>> feel
> >>>>>> there is such a thing, and the infrastructure is more or less in
> >>> place
> >>>> (
> >>>>> we
> >>>>>> are starting in a much better position than our UK counterparts).
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> That being said, after the original survey questions a year ago,
> >> the
> >>>> mail
> >>>>>> list and facebook responses and some private feedback, I think, as
> >>>> usual,
> >>>>>> the distance factor is the biggest hurdle. With that in mind I
> >> think
> >>>> its
> >>>>>> best to change from a series of meetings on the subject, to a
> >> single
> >>>> one,
> >>>&g

Re: [OSM-talk-ie] OSM Ireland chapter - reboot

[Dave Corley]

Much appreciated folks.

Can you let me know when the formal approval is given. I'll set up a ticket
booth to track numbers then.

Thanks again,
Dave

On 11 Sep 2017 20:08, "Tadeusz Cantwell" <t4d...@gmail.com> wrote:

> As a member of Tog I can come in early on the 21st to open up and put my
> name down to host the event.
> Tad
>
> On 11 September 2017 at 13:39, Dave Corley <davecor...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi Jeffrey,
> >
> > A 4pm finish might not be a bad idea especially for those traveling.
> Would
> > it be possible to start earlier? Say 10 or 11? I'm just mindful that
> there
> > will be a lot of things to go through and I would like to leave time for
> >  discussions. On the other hand, I don't want to inconvenience you (or
> > other Tog members) too much as you are doing us a favour.
> >
> > Dave
> >
> > On Mon, Sep 11, 2017 at 12:59 PM, Jeffrey Roe <tdr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > There is an internal event on the 21st that starts at 4pm. So you
> > > would need to finish up then or run it on the 14th.
> > > An event takes 5 days for Tog to approve and you need a member to host
> > > you.  I could possible do the 21st but you would need someone else to
> > > host if you wanted the 14th.
> > > Jeffrey Roe,
> > > www.tog.ie
> > >
> > >
> > > On 11 September 2017 at 10:41, Dave Corley <davecor...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > > > Hi all,
> > > >
> > > > Rounding back on this again. Between the responses on the mail list,
> > > > Facebook and previous surveys, the general consensus is to go ahead
> > with
> > > > this.
> > > >
> > > > Martin, sorry for not replying to you earlier, but I wanted to stay
> > quiet
> > > > and see what others thought first. To your point, yes, its possible
> to
> > do
> > > > everything I stated outside of a formal body, but given we are an
> > > informal
> > > > grouping of similarly minded folks for over a decade and
> organisational
> > > > interest/involvement is decreasing rather than increasing, I think
> its
> > > > necessary to do this if we are to ever become "more". Your comment
> > about
> > > > there being a functioning group is bang on the money too. Right now I
> > > feel
> > > > there is such a thing, and the infrastructure is more or less in
> place
> > (
> > > we
> > > > are starting in a much better position than our UK counterparts).
> > > >
> > > > That being said, after the original survey questions a year ago, the
> > mail
> > > > list and facebook responses and some private feedback, I think, as
> > usual,
> > > > the distance factor is the biggest hurdle. With that in mind I think
> > its
> > > > best to change from a series of meetings on the subject, to a single
> > one,
> > > > where several of us come together and blitz the main items:
> > > >
> > > > - Constitution
> > > > - Memorandum of association
> > > > - Articles of association
> > > > - Interim board
> > > > - etc etc
> > > >
> > > > What I looking to achieve is to get to a point where we are 90% of
> the
> > > way
> > > > there. Afterwards, everything achieved would be put up online for
> > > feedback,
> > > > comment and to close out any remaining items.
> > > >
> > > > I'm hoping a single session of 5-6 hours should be good enough for
> > this,
> > > > say from 12-5/6 on a Saturday. I'm hoping that by limiting this to a
> > > single
> > > > day, to get a much larger group to participate.
> > > >
> > > > In order to keep things moving through the day, I'm going to try
> > organise
> > > > some sponsorship of refreshments.
> > > >
> > > > Would the Tog folks on this list know if Tog is available on a
> Saturday
> > > in
> > > > Oct? Say the 14th or 21st. If not, I'll try sort something else.
> > > >
> > > > Once a date and location is set, I'll set up an invite page, just to
> be
> > > > able to track numbers attending in the event I get sponsorship for
> > > > refreshments.
> > > >
> > > > Dave
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Aug 15, 2017 at 8:57 AM, Rory McCann <r...@technomancy.org>
> > > wrote:
> > &

Re: [OSM-talk-ie] OSM Ireland chapter - reboot

[Dave Corley]

Hi Jeffrey,

A 4pm finish might not be a bad idea especially for those traveling. Would
it be possible to start earlier? Say 10 or 11? I'm just mindful that there
will be a lot of things to go through and I would like to leave time for
 discussions. On the other hand, I don't want to inconvenience you (or
other Tog members) too much as you are doing us a favour.

Dave

On Mon, Sep 11, 2017 at 12:59 PM, Jeffrey Roe <tdr...@gmail.com> wrote:

> There is an internal event on the 21st that starts at 4pm. So you
> would need to finish up then or run it on the 14th.
> An event takes 5 days for Tog to approve and you need a member to host
> you.  I could possible do the 21st but you would need someone else to
> host if you wanted the 14th.
> Jeffrey Roe,
> www.tog.ie
>
>
> On 11 September 2017 at 10:41, Dave Corley <davecor...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Rounding back on this again. Between the responses on the mail list,
> > Facebook and previous surveys, the general consensus is to go ahead with
> > this.
> >
> > Martin, sorry for not replying to you earlier, but I wanted to stay quiet
> > and see what others thought first. To your point, yes, its possible to do
> > everything I stated outside of a formal body, but given we are an
> informal
> > grouping of similarly minded folks for over a decade and organisational
> > interest/involvement is decreasing rather than increasing, I think its
> > necessary to do this if we are to ever become "more". Your comment about
> > there being a functioning group is bang on the money too. Right now I
> feel
> > there is such a thing, and the infrastructure is more or less in place (
> we
> > are starting in a much better position than our UK counterparts).
> >
> > That being said, after the original survey questions a year ago, the mail
> > list and facebook responses and some private feedback, I think, as usual,
> > the distance factor is the biggest hurdle. With that in mind I think its
> > best to change from a series of meetings on the subject, to a single one,
> > where several of us come together and blitz the main items:
> >
> > - Constitution
> > - Memorandum of association
> > - Articles of association
> > - Interim board
> > - etc etc
> >
> > What I looking to achieve is to get to a point where we are 90% of the
> way
> > there. Afterwards, everything achieved would be put up online for
> feedback,
> > comment and to close out any remaining items.
> >
> > I'm hoping a single session of 5-6 hours should be good enough for this,
> > say from 12-5/6 on a Saturday. I'm hoping that by limiting this to a
> single
> > day, to get a much larger group to participate.
> >
> > In order to keep things moving through the day, I'm going to try organise
> > some sponsorship of refreshments.
> >
> > Would the Tog folks on this list know if Tog is available on a Saturday
> in
> > Oct? Say the 14th or 21st. If not, I'll try sort something else.
> >
> > Once a date and location is set, I'll set up an invite page, just to be
> > able to track numbers attending in the event I get sponsorship for
> > refreshments.
> >
> > Dave
> >
> > On Tue, Aug 15, 2017 at 8:57 AM, Rory McCann <r...@technomancy.org>
> wrote:
> >
> >> I agree with Dave, it would be good to get a formal OSM body set up.
> >>
> >> Yes, for doing more mapping events, you don't need a formal body, but
> >> you do it you want to be an OSMF local chapter, and I suspect it would
> >> be easier to talk to government bodies (or big orgs) if you're from an
> >> official body.
> >>
> >> And who knows, setting it up might be kick up the arse for some of us!
> >>
> >> Since I'm in Germany, I can't come to any of the events.  But I'll
> >> help how I can... I was involved with setting up TOG, which was
> >> originally an unincorporated association (don't do that!) and is now a
> >> DAC (designed activity company(?))
> >>
> >> On 14/08/17 03:52, Dave Corley wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hi,
> >>>
> >>> First, I want to apologise, this is a long email, but if you are at all
> >>> interested in moving OSM in Ireland to the next level, please read on
> and
> >>> give your feedback when you're done.
> >>>
> >>> Efforts to get the OSM Ireland group set up as a legal entity and
> >>> established as a recognised chapter have never really got out of the
> >>> starting blocks for us, mainly because it's an exce

Re: [OSM-talk-ie] OSM Ireland chapter - reboot

[Dave Corley]

Hi all,

Rounding back on this again. Between the responses on the mail list,
Facebook and previous surveys, the general consensus is to go ahead with
this.

Martin, sorry for not replying to you earlier, but I wanted to stay quiet
and see what others thought first. To your point, yes, its possible to do
everything I stated outside of a formal body, but given we are an informal
grouping of similarly minded folks for over a decade and organisational
interest/involvement is decreasing rather than increasing, I think its
necessary to do this if we are to ever become "more". Your comment about
there being a functioning group is bang on the money too. Right now I feel
there is such a thing, and the infrastructure is more or less in place ( we
are starting in a much better position than our UK counterparts).

That being said, after the original survey questions a year ago, the mail
list and facebook responses and some private feedback, I think, as usual,
the distance factor is the biggest hurdle. With that in mind I think its
best to change from a series of meetings on the subject, to a single one,
where several of us come together and blitz the main items:

- Constitution
- Memorandum of association
- Articles of association
- Interim board
- etc etc

What I looking to achieve is to get to a point where we are 90% of the way
there. Afterwards, everything achieved would be put up online for feedback,
comment and to close out any remaining items.

I'm hoping a single session of 5-6 hours should be good enough for this,
say from 12-5/6 on a Saturday. I'm hoping that by limiting this to a single
day, to get a much larger group to participate.

In order to keep things moving through the day, I'm going to try organise
some sponsorship of refreshments.

Would the Tog folks on this list know if Tog is available on a Saturday in
Oct? Say the 14th or 21st. If not, I'll try sort something else.

Once a date and location is set, I'll set up an invite page, just to be
able to track numbers attending in the event I get sponsorship for
refreshments.

Dave

On Tue, Aug 15, 2017 at 8:57 AM, Rory McCann <r...@technomancy.org> wrote:

> I agree with Dave, it would be good to get a formal OSM body set up.
>
> Yes, for doing more mapping events, you don't need a formal body, but
> you do it you want to be an OSMF local chapter, and I suspect it would
> be easier to talk to government bodies (or big orgs) if you're from an
> official body.
>
> And who knows, setting it up might be kick up the arse for some of us!
>
> Since I'm in Germany, I can't come to any of the events.  But I'll
> help how I can... I was involved with setting up TOG, which was
> originally an unincorporated association (don't do that!) and is now a
> DAC (designed activity company(?))
>
> On 14/08/17 03:52, Dave Corley wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> First, I want to apologise, this is a long email, but if you are at all
>> interested in moving OSM in Ireland to the next level, please read on and
>> give your feedback when you're done.
>>
>> Efforts to get the OSM Ireland group set up as a legal entity and
>> established as a recognised chapter have never really got out of the
>> starting blocks for us, mainly because it's an exceptionally long, boring
>> process to get it all done.
>>
>> Back when Rory gave the Townlands presentation at a Sotm or two ago, I
>> contacted everyone who took part and asked a number of questions to allow
>> for some stats to be included in the presentation. I asked a few questions
>> specifically around the topic of setting something up properly. If I
>> recall
>> correctly, all but one were interested in joining an official OSM Ireland,
>> but less than half wanted to be involved in setting it up. But that ratio
>> is to be expected. If I'm honest, it was a lot higher than I originally
>> expected.
>>
>> What I would love to see is a functioning OSM Ireland body which, at an
>> absolute minimum, could do the following
>>
>> - Scheduling regular meet up's - These would have some organisation
>> around them e.g. guest speakers, break out groups, objectives etc.
>> This
>> could be monthly, bi-monthly or quarterly, doesn't matter, just even
>> setting up a schedule and sticking to it would be a great achievement
>> - Work on increasing the qty of daily contributors - Some simple
>> things
>> like automating messages to first time mappers, or a tool to ensure
>> every
>> new contributor's edits are reviewed for accuracy/vandalism etc.
>> Basically,
>> just setting up some structure around it to ensure we engage with new
>> folks
>> in the most efficient and effective ways possible. I see no reason
>> why a
>&

[OSM-talk-ie] OSM Ireland chapter - reboot

[Dave Corley]

Hi,

First, I want to apologise, this is a long email, but if you are at all
interested in moving OSM in Ireland to the next level, please read on and
give your feedback when you're done.

Efforts to get the OSM Ireland group set up as a legal entity and
established as a recognised chapter have never really got out of the
starting blocks for us, mainly because it's an exceptionally long, boring
process to get it all done.

Back when Rory gave the Townlands presentation at a Sotm or two ago, I
contacted everyone who took part and asked a number of questions to allow
for some stats to be included in the presentation. I asked a few questions
specifically around the topic of setting something up properly. If I recall
correctly, all but one were interested in joining an official OSM Ireland,
but less than half wanted to be involved in setting it up. But that ratio
is to be expected. If I'm honest, it was a lot higher than I originally
expected.

What I would love to see is a functioning OSM Ireland body which, at an
absolute minimum, could do the following

   - Scheduling regular meet up's - These would have some organisation
   around them e.g. guest speakers, break out groups, objectives etc. This
   could be monthly, bi-monthly or quarterly, doesn't matter, just even
   setting up a schedule and sticking to it would be a great achievement
   - Work on increasing the qty of daily contributors - Some simple things
   like automating messages to first time mappers, or a tool to ensure every
   new contributor's edits are reviewed for accuracy/vandalism etc. Basically,
   just setting up some structure around it to ensure we engage with new folks
   in the most efficient and effective ways possible. I see no reason why a
   number of 50 a day shouldn't be achievable within an 18 month period if
   this is done right.
   - Setting up an Import strategy - There is an ever growing pool of open
   data being released. To make full use of it is going to require a
   signficant body of up-front work (selecting, categorising, prioritising,
   tools and import process).
   - Lining up other, structured, mapping tasks - For example doing a 1
   month blitz on lane mapping, or a 3 month clean-up of errors using Osmi or
   keepright etc etc etc. We did this with the enormous townland mapping
   project. Smaller scale versions, with a little work, could have a real,
   lasting impact on the map
   - Commiting to organising a State of the Map yearly. This doesn't need
   to have a load of bells and whistles, hell, year one would likely be one
   day, but it has to be possible to get a 2 day conference going within 2
   years, whatever format it may take (barcamp, unconference etc). There's
   enough going on now between mappers, govt, commercial and academic folks
   that is easily within reach.
   - Lastly, getting out of Dublin. I know Dublin has the biggest
   population of mappers, but what about having the meetup in a location
   outside of Dub once or twice a year. Or there could be a night away where
   we do a load of ground work on the basemap first, then hit the ground in a
   town and get every street name, address, business and attraction all in one
   day, then meet back somewhere, have a bite to eat and a few drinks.

In my head, I'm seeing each of those things needing 2-3 people to work on
them, i.e. working groups, to ensure nobody gets left holding the bag and
to avoid burnout.

Now, I'd like to say, all of the above is purely what *I* think OSM Ireland
should be about. Others may feel differently, and that's totally fine. It's
kind of the point of this email :)

With all of that in mind, to get us formally set up, what I am proposing is
the following

1. A meeting in early Sept  (the 2nd or the 9th) where we will come
together to hammer out a lot of the basics of setting up OSM Ireland. Note,
this will involve people coming together, agreeing on the structure and,
most importantly, some people agreeing to take some work e.g. research
whats involved in setting up a bank account, what are the legal
requirements, how will we manage membership, etc etc

2. A second meeting in early Oct where the majority of the structure is
locked down. Work to start on Articles of Association etc if required at
this point. Again, some people would need to agree to take on some tasks to
keep the process moving.

3. A third meeting in Nov and a fourth in Dec, to lock down any last
elements. At this point we would need to agree a provisional board
probably, to allow for paperwork to proceed for banks, govt. etc. Note,
this board would step down at the first general meeting of OSM Ireland and
elections would be held at that first meeting.

4. Jan, get all the paperwork sent to whoever

5. TBD, once paperwork is approved by relevant bodies, agenda for first
general meeting to be determined and election process to begin

There you go. With a bit of luck, before the next round of green milkshakes
hits McDonalds, we would be a 

Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Typos in Townland names

[Dave Corley]

That sounds like a good idea.

If possible, it would be useful if it would link to the townland relation
to allow easy editing.

Once that smaller list is compiled its a matter of going through them one
by one and identifying the correct name whether that be in OSM, OSi,
Loganim or the map sheet

On 16 Feb 2017 12:37, "Rory McCann"  wrote:

> Hi!
>
> On 15/02/17 16:36, Brian Tuffy wrote:
> > just to follow up on my own post, another way to tackle this is to take a
> > look at Rory's Loganim import page on townlands.ie which I highly
> recommend
> > you take a look at.
> > https://www.townlands.ie/static/logainm/
> >
> > Each red x on these pages means that the loganim irish names tags are not
> > in OSM for that place.
> > As far as I know, they were automatically added for the places where the
> > names in Loganim list matched those in OSM (or at least id's matched?).
> So
> > a red x can indicate that there is a spelling mismatch or the place is
> > missing.
> > It's a good place to start if you want to correct typo's in place names.
>
>
> Minor point, that page doesn't look at the name, but at the
> "logainm:ref" tag. If there's a "logainm:ref" tag, then it gets a green
> tick, red X means no logainm:ref. That page is updated every morning.
>
> The (ongoing) Logainm data match up and import (wiki page[1], script
> source code[2]), looks at the logainm:ref tag and added the name:ga tags
> from logainm if needed. That script will also look at the name (or
> name:en) tag and try to match it up to what's in logainm and set the
> logainm:ref tag as appropriate. If there is a typo in the name (or OSM
> and Logainm disagree about the name), then it won't be able to set the
> logainm:ref tag, and hence there'll be a red X there.
>
> I'm going to run that script again this weekend at the Karlsruhe Hack
> Weekend. Perhaps I will look at that OSi open data and try to find
> places where OSM & OSi (and maybe Logainm!) disagree. We have ~60,000
> townlands, maybe filtering that list down to smaller list of "possible
> problems" will be easier.
>
>
> [1] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Logainm_Import
> [2] https://github.com/osmie/logainm-osm-import
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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Typos in Townland names

[Dave Corley]

I think Rory has a script that is adding the Irish names for everything
based on Loganim data cross referenced by townland, its CP, Barony and
county.

I would assume that there is a quantity that are not showing as matching.
This may flag up the ones you are talking about too but I'm saying this
based on some assumptions on how his script works.

Dave

On 14 Feb 2017 16:24, "Brian Tuffy"  wrote:

> Hi all,
> I found a lot of typos in townland names in county Mayo and i presume it is
> similar in other counties. As of 12.01.2017, About 4.3% of townlands in
> Mayo have a mistake in the spelling. That is roughly 130 townland names
> just for Mayo! I think that is something important we can correct now that
> the hard work of mapping the townlands is done.
>
> Before, I was correcting them as I came across them but I think a more
> systematic approach is needed to double check names and also why i want the
> community to help, share ideas on how to do it and check each others work.
> It is understandable that mistakes were made since it is sometimes
> difficult to read the GSGS30906 war maps source. So what I am talking about
> here, is spelling mistakes in copying the townland names from the source.
>
> So here are my questions;
> How do we go about cross-checking the names of townlands (also parishes,
> DED's etc)?
> What sources can we use? 1911 census list of townlands? the war maps can
> still be the original source of townland names. Can we legally use the data
> on pobal.ie to cross-check spelling? Although unlikely, can we even
> extract
> the other data there (townland id)? Is that useful ?
>
> Are you interested in checking the names in your county?
>
> Here I propose my way of checking townland names:
> The principle was to compare the OSM list of townlands to other lists and
> identify if the names match or are unique entries. The unique entries are
> possible mistakes.
> I downloaded the townland list for Mayo from townlands.ie and I am
> currently trying to compare the list to other sources. I have the draft
> list of townlands in Mayo from Loganim.ie and a townlands list from
> pobal.ie
> (possibly copyrighted list ). Anyway, once the possible mistakes are
> highlighted, (Excel - conditional formatting) we can go back to the war
> maps source and check the correct spelling. It takes a lot of work, i.e.
> formatting, false positives, we have to respect local names of townlands
> etc.
>
> Besides typos, this method can also be used to add the irish names of
> townlands, identify missing townlands not yet added and much more.
>
> Please let me know what you think. My corrections for Co. Mayo are nearly
> complete and I plan to upload them soon.
> Ok, Thanks for reading,
>
> Brian
> Username: OscarBrownbread
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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Schools: UK experience

[Dave Corley]

Rob,

Thanks for that. I follow the gb mailing list too so watched your progress
with jealousy ;)

Those tools look great. I'm especially interested in the map roulette
aspect as I see it being very useful in terms of us consuming government
data,  in particular where there has been a lot of mapping done already
i.e. Schools, Fire stations, libraries etc etc.

Off the top of your head, do you know your start/end numbers and did any
tool account for a big jump in the numbers?

Dave

On 16 Dec 2016 18:11, "Rob Nickerson"  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I just spotted you are discussing mapping schools. Here in the UK we ran a
> quarterly project on schools which was very successful in terms of the
> number of people involved and the tools developed.
>
> As a starting point, check out the wiki page:
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/UK_2016_Q1_Project:_Schools
>
> Some notes:
>
>- We collected gov data for England, Wales, Scotland and Northern
>Ireland - all point data.
>- Few mappers for Northern Ireland so there remains a lot to do there.
>- Some great tools to track progress were developed including Robert W's
>progress tool [1] Harry W's edits tracker [2]. Both, I'm sure would be
>happy to help in Ireland too.
>- Martijn helped us set up a MapRoulette challenge. It was a bit late in
>the quarter so most people had already found their prefered way of
> working.
>- Christian L developed a great tool [3], just a bit too late for our
>project. This used polygon data from the OS OpenData series.
>
> Give me a shout if you have any questions.
> [1] http://robert.mathmos.net/osm/schools/progress/
> [2] http://harrywood.dev.openstreetmap.org/diffreader/schools/
> [3] http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Christian%20Ledermann/diary/39890
>
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[OSM-talk-ie] Using CC-BY datasets on data.gov.ie for OSM - Good to go :)

[Dave Corley]

Folks,

I've received clarification that while the CC-BY 4.0 license is not
suitable for merging with OSM, the granting of explicit permission to use
CC-BY 4.0 datasets by the relevant owner is allowed.

I have gotten that explicit permission for all datasets contained on
data.gov.ie (over 4,500 datasets). A PDF of the email permission will be
saved on the wiki later this evening.

Note, this ONLY covers datasets under CC-BY 4.0. There are a handful of
datasets under other licences on that site so be aware of this when
selecting a dataset.

So, whats next?

Basically, everyone is free to start trawling through that site for any
datasets that might be of use to us, however, there are some existing
guidelines and requirements if anyone is looking to do any imports [1].

With this in mind, and to ensure some kind of coordination and logical
approach (agreed tagging etc), I threw together a wiki page [2] as a
central spot to list any datasets that are potential options. I've tried to
keep it simple on that page so there should not be much of a burden on any
one person while gathering a min amount of info about each dataset. Any
dataset that looks like it might be useful to us should get put up onto
that page. I've thrown up a good few as a start to give an idea of what is
available. If anyone is interested in reviewing these, how I'm doing it is
going in alphabetical order of the publishers (link at the top of the site)
and reviewing everything under a publisher before moving on to the next
one. You can see the last one I checked (at the moment Cork City Council)
on the wiki page as its the most recent dataset listed.

When reviewing potential datasets, something to keep in mind is that while
one dataset might look midly interesting, it may contain a goldmine of
additional data as part of additional attribute info. One example of this
is where a dataset containing locations of street lamps might seem a bit
over the top to import, the raw data may also contain street names and
other valuable data so be sure to dig into the attribute data before
dismissing a potential source.

From that page, we can discuss each dataset as we work through them i.e.
some may be suitable for doing automated style imports, others may be
purely manual while others still might involve a hybrid approach e.g.
maproulette/layers etc. Once agreed, each will get its own import page, see
[3] as an example. Once completed, each one will also get listed under the
Ireland section of the contributors page [4].

As regards issues that may come up, please feed them back to the mailing
list. This includes data quality, licencing, data errors, formats, corrupt
sources etc etc. The reason I want to collect this particular information
is, after speaking with Denis Parfenov, a board member of the Open Data
Governance Board, the board is looking for OSM Ireland to come and present
to the ODGB in early 2017 on our experiences in using the data, what more
we want and anything else that may seem relevant. [5]  Once its closer to
the time I'll be putting together a presentation and looking for feedback
from this list.

Looking forward to seeing what opportunities this brings.

Thanks,
Dave

1 - http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import/Guidelines
2 - http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Ireland/Open_Data
3 - http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Ireland/Imports
4 - https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Contributors#Ireland
5 -
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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Schools

[Dave Corley]

Hi all,

These might fill the need

https://data.gov.ie/dataset/primary-schools
https://data.gov.ie/dataset/post-primary-schools

If there are folks here with the skills, a schools mapping task could be
coordinated through maproulette.

Dave

On Tue, Dec 6, 2016 at 1:19 PM, Rory McCann  wrote:

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> On 06/12/16 05:44, Colm Moore wrote:
> > Someone, it might have been Rory looked at geocoding all schools,
> > but the data available was, err, of poor quality.
>
> Yep, that was me. In February this year I looked into it[1]. I tried
> to geocode the addresses. But Irish addresses are very hard to
> geocode. Especially when the address is "St. Whatever School, Sneem,
> Co. Kerry".
>
> > daft.ie have issues their (post-primary) schools report:
> > http://www.daft.ie/report/daft-schools-report-2016.pdf using data
> > from the Department of Education, so someone seems to have gone to
> > the effort of mapping them properly.
>
> The Dept of Education already has a webpage which has the location of
> schools[2]. I suspect Daft are using that. It's just that that page
> has no copyright information, which means it's "all rights reserved",
> and not usable for us in OSM. It's possible the location of the school
> is based off OSi maps or something.
>
> If someone wants to ask the Dept. Ed. to open that data, please go
> ahead! :)
>
> [1] https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/rorym/diary/37887
> [2] http://www.education.ie/en/Find-a-School/
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[OSM-talk-ie] OSM GeoWeek is November 13th-19th

[Dave Corley]

Hi all,

OSM Geoweek (see http://osmgeoweek.org/index.html )  is rolling around
again shortly and this year, like last year, the gang at Portmarnock
Community School are planning another 24hr #MapLesotho Mapathon to assist
with the #MapLesotho project.

Last year myself, Ciaran and Dermot attended and helped out and mapped
alongside a lot of the school kids. Portmarnock CS has taken OSM to heart
since then with the foundation of a mapping club that meets on a weekly
basis (approx 30 kids) who learn about mapping in OpenStreetMap and
practice those skills in various #MapLesotho tasks.

At last years event there were a total of about 90+ students in attendance.
By all accounts this is going to be well surpassed this year as interest
has only grown since then.

That is where you folks come in :)

We're looking for experienced mappers to help out on the day by showing
some of the newer mappers the basics. You don't need to be a JOSM guru as
the vast majority will be using iD editor. If you know the basics of
mapping buildings, roads and waterways, you will be of great help if you
can spare a few hours. If you don't feel up to training but would like to
come along and participate, you are more than welcome also. The more, the
merrier

The event will kick off on the morning of Friday 18th Nov at 8am and finish
24hrs later.

We appreciate that nobody is likely to be available for the full 24 hrs
however if you have a few hours to spare at any point during the 24hrs,
feel free to drop in and take part.

Just to give you some details about last years event:

- 117 Total mappers (approx 20 in Lesotho itself)
- Over 260k nodes added
- Over 120k nodes modified (validation of previously mapped features)

There was also a few great write ups of the event by
- Dermot (mackerski) -
http://www.maplesotho.com/blog/2015/12/07/90-young-mappers-and-one-flabbergasted-older-one/
- A student at Portmarnock -
http://www.maplesotho.com/blog/2015/12/04/eight-and-a-half-hours-to-go-for-maplesotho/
- and a final summary by Ciaran (DeBigC) -
http://www.maplesotho.com/blog/2015/12/06/post-mapathon-round-up/

If anyone is interested in attending, just let me know.

Thanks,
Dave
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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Mobile speed camera zones

[Dave Corley]

Daniel,

Fair play on the work so far.

It would be a good idea to review the import guidelines page before
proceeding with any import to prevent errors or incurring the wrath of the
DWG.

http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import/Guidelines

I'd also be hesitant to remove pre-existing data if it's not incorrect. Is
there a reason you want to do this? Sorry, just trying to understand.

It might be a case, for this type of data, that a layer be created that can
be used in josm/id to manually add the info.

Also, just to note, in terms of licensing, the ok hasn't been given yet for
CC-BY 4.0 data in OSM, which is what all Irish open data is licensed under.
I mentioned this in an earlier mail so it's something to be aware of. I'll
follow up again and see if there has been a response from Creative Commons.
I had hoped to have this resolved before people found data to import but
you work faster ;)

Dave

On 18 Aug 2016 20:38, "Daniel Cussen"  wrote:

> To answer a question asked in another thread, I have not progressed this
> yet.
> I think Rory may be the ideal person to progress if he is willing to
> volunteer.
>
> I think what needs to be done is all mobile speed camera zones in ROI
> need to be removed, and then the data formatted and imported into OSM.
>
> Rory are you interested?
>
> On 12/06/2016, Daniel Cussen  wrote:
> > We now have permission to use the Garda mobile zone data.
> > See:
> > https://www.tog.ie/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/Page1.jpg
> > https://www.tog.ie/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/Page2.jpg
> >
> > The data is here:
> > http://www.garda.ie/Controller.aspx?Page=5590=1
> > in particular:
> > http://www.garda.ie/Documents/User/SafetyZones19052016.kmz
> >
> > I am not good with data processing. My suggestion is to remove all
> > exising speed zones from ROI OSM and then try to replace them with the
> > latest Garda data. I am not sure how to do this, hopefully someone
> > here can help.
> >
> > Ideally I would like the data to trigger warnings in apps like OsmAnd
> >
> > Here is some info on enforcement tags:
> > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Relation:enforcement
> >
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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Church of Ireland

[Dave Corley]

FYI, there is a full set of MD boundary data from OSI on data.gov.ie under
CC-BY. I'm currently working through licencing fun with the legal WG.
Basically, as it stands, we have permission from Dept. Public Exp and
Reform to use any and all data released under CC-BY on that site, however
there is a concern from the legal WG (Simon Poole) that the version of
CC-BY that is used, specifically 4.0, causes some issues with mixing data
and databases.

He is in contact with Creative Commons looking for a clarification.

Once that comes through, all data on data.gov.ie is fair game. Only thing
that will be required is attribution statements on the contributors page on
the wiki.

I'll update once i know more

Dave


On Sat, Aug 13, 2016 at 1:40 PM, Rory McCann  wrote:

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> On 12/08/16 16:19, Colm Moore wrote:
> > I spoke to one of their IT people and they are familiar with OSM
> > and are favourably inclined to facilitating us. They can provide us
> > with a KML of their current churches (and possibly other public
> > buildings / sites). The KML file feeds these pages:
> > http://ireland.anglican.org/information/dioceses/parish/14810 How
> > do we go about sorting an OSM licence? Who will be able to help me
> > with uploading the data? :) I'm happy to 'take charge' of things
> > after that.
>
> I'm willing to help with any OSM data import.
>
> First question is copyright. Why did they get the data? Do they own
> it? Did they copy it from an map from OS/OSi/Google Maps? Then we
> can't use it. :(
>
> If it's all OK, copyright-wise then we can look at importing it. Or
> using it as a base map to manually add it to OSM. Instead of a full
> blown import, it might be faster to use MapRoullette to help people
> manually add data. Depends on the size.
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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Lesotho Embassy is hosting a mapping event on Aug 13th

[Dave Corley]

Hi all,

Just a reminder about this event, this Saturday, from 10am to 4pm. There's
still 6 spaces left that I'd like to fill so if anyone else would like to
come along just let me know.

For those curious but not sure:
- You only need bring a laptop and mouse for mapping
- Its free
- Its informal
- Lunch will be provided
- Any level of mapping ability is welcome. Guidance will be given on the
day (many won't be familiar with features in African imagery)
- The event will be here - http://osm.org/go/es~R7ealk?m=

Dave

On Tue, Aug 9, 2016 at 8:54 PM, Rory Rudden <roryrud...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Hey Dave,
> Great to hear.  See you Saturday.
>
> Rory
>
>
> On 09/08/2016 12:30, Dave Corley wrote:
>
> Rory,
>
> The event is open to anyone and there are still several spaces left so you
> are more than welcome to attend. Its always great to see new people at
> these events.
>
> The only thing you need bring is a laptop and mouse.
>
> If the mailing list rejected your email it's possible you didn't complete
> the signup process correctly. We can take a look on Saturday in any case.
>
> Dave
>
> On 9 Aug 2016 08:52, "Rory Rudden" <roryrud...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> First off apologies for emailing you direct about Saturday.  I tried
>> sending a msg to the mailing list but it is being held back for approval
>> (possibly because I only joined last week).
>>
>>
>> *Your mail to 'Talk-ie' with the subject*
>>
>> *Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Lesotho Embassy is hosting a mapping event on*
>> *Aug 13th*
>>
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>>
>> Essentially I would be interested in helping out on Saturday if I can. I
>> don't have any experience in
>> editing OSM but use the mapping on a day to day basis in work including shp
>> files based on OSM data within QGIS and ArcGIS.  I'm reasonably tech savvy
>> and a fast learner.  I realise space is limited and would not want to take
>> a space if more more able people arrive.  Are you expecting many?  Would
>> I need to bring anything with me?
>>
>> Best Regards
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>>
>>
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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Lack of attribution to OSM by ESRI on Carlow maps

[Dave Corley]

Hi Brian,

Out of curiosity I took a look at Galway County Council and got a nice
surprise at their maps homepage. They have several links and images to
various bits of data and they are using OSM as the main map in those
images.

http://galwaycoco.maps.arcgis.com/home/index.html

However my jaw dropped when I saw the outer bypass map. they have the full
route, lanes, embankments roundabouts etc etc, all overlaid on the OSM map.
Looks great and I was dead chuffed seeing as I drew a large portion of what
they're using :)

Both Galway City & County councils are using the maps.arcgis.com solution
for their maps (its handy for them) but they do it slightly differently
between them. The City Council site is a carbon copy of your Carlow one

http://galwaycity.maps.arcgis.com/apps/PublicGallery/index.html?appid=3853b01e8241421999b9b933265ea4ec=fb38dabbbc074c99a251fc18e3f1b97c


I went through a few of maps and did some comparisons. They are basically
the same sites but on Galway City Council one, full attribution is given.
It may be something as simple as a setting they have turned off in error in
the Carlow one as I would assume its on by defult


Dave




On 9 Aug 2016 18:40, "Brian Hollinshead"  wrote:

> Prior to a visit to Carlow yesterday I perused the council web page for
> maps, see link below:
>
> http://carlow.maps.arcgis.com/apps/PublicGallery/index.html?appid=
> 463a5f06db5040e4863a8f2bc8f452fd=c94e864d25da4f4f8e7f5e68e3ebd47b
> 
>
> Of about 15 maps all powered by ESRI They have correctly attributed one to
> OSI and one to OSM (CC-BY-SA). Most of the others appear to be by OSM but
> although carrying the   Powered by ESRI logo they seem to have neglected to
> attribute them to OSM.
>
> I called to the Council and their IT people, who were properly upset, have
> contacted the ESRI. Today they contacted me to advise no meaningful
> response yet. They will keep in touch until the omissions are corrected.
> They are considering withdrawing the unattributed maps until matters have
> been put in order.
>
> Perhaps you might prowl around YOUR local Council website in case perhaps
> this is more widespread than just Carlow.
>
> Is there someone somewhere in OSM that I should copy this to?
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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Lesotho Embassy is hosting a mapping event on Aug 13th

[Dave Corley]

Brian & Tadeusz, I look forward to seeing you both.

For everyone else, there are still several spaces left and it would be
great to fill all of them, so shout if you are interested.

Dave

On 8 Aug 2016 17:43, "Tadeusz Cantwell" <t4d...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I can come as well.
>
> On 5 August 2016 at 02:34, Brian Hollinshead <br...@hollinshead.net>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi Dave
> > Yes please I would like to be there.
> >
> >
> >
> > On 5 August 2016 at 00:58, Dave Corley <davecor...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Hey all,
> > >
> > > I wanted to let you know about an event that is happening on Aug 13th
> in
> > > Dublin in the Lesotho Embassy [1].
> > >
> > > The ambassador has kindly provided the facility for up to 16 people to
> > come
> > > from 10am to 4pm to take part in some mapping for #MapLesotho. You do
> not
> > > need to have any particular skill level to take part, help will be
> > provided
> > > on the day if any questions or queries come up.
> > >
> > > During the day there will be lunch (pizza) provided along with some
> light
> > > refreshments.
> > >
> > > We're also going to try do something a little special that day to mark
> > the
> > > OSM anniversary. We're going to try some live hangouts with
> > > - Maptime Copenhagen
> > > - Portmarnock Secondary School kids who will be in the Philippines
> > > - and last but not least, local mappers in Lesotho
> > >
> > > This should allow for a bit of fun and hopefully, interesting
> > > conversations.
> > >
> > > As the event will be finishing up early enough at 4pm, we'll likely go
> > for
> > > a bite or a drink afterwards.
> > >
> > > If this is of interest, please get in touch. As mentioned, space is
> > limited
> > > to 16 so it will have to be first come, first served.
> > >
> > > Hope to see some familiar faces there,
> > > Dave (DaCor)
> > >
> > > 1 - http://osm.org/go/es~R7ealk?m=
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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] State of the Map 2016 call for sessions - Thinking of suggesting a townlands lighting talk...

[Dave Corley]

Yup, definitely all for collaboration. Its been a massive, multi year
project with many different aspects and many people working on different
elements. There's a lot of things I'm not knowledgeable on so it's best to
get input from many folks on it.
On 22 Apr 2016 16:30, "Stephen Roulston" <srouls...@me.com> wrote:

> Sounds good.
>
> I am sorry that I can't make it to TOG tomorrow by the way. Have a good
> day.
>
> Stephen
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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> > On 22 Apr 2016, at 15:57, moltonel 3x Combo <molto...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On 22/04/2016, Dave Corley <davecor...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> I was planning on submitting a full talk on it, instead of a lightening
> >> talk. There's a lot to cover
> >
> > Maybe we could collaborate on GoogleDoc or similar to write the talk ?
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[OSM-legal-talk] Fwd: Regarding the use of CC-BY datasets on data.gov.ie by OpenStreetMap Ireland

[Dave Corley]

Folks,

Please see the responses below from the Dept of Public Expenditure and
Reform which run the open data portal for the Irish government at
data.gov.ie

Can you please confirm that the response below is enough to begin using the
datasets from that site for OSM.

I believe it covers all the normal questions that arise from CC-BY licensed
data but want to be sure before I announce to the Irish OSM community.

Cheers,
Dave (DaCor)


-- Forwarded message --
From: Opendata <opend...@per.gov.ie>
Date: Tue, Apr 12, 2016 at 3:13 PM
Subject: RE: Regarding the use of CC-BY datasets on data.gov.ie by
OpenStreetMap Ireland
To: Dave Corley <davecor...@gmail.com>, Opendata <opend...@per.gov.ie>


Hi Dave,



Regarding your email, please see the comments in red below.





1. As the Dept. responsible for data.gov.ie, do you accept that this method
of attribution meets the requirements of the CC-BY licence applied to
datasets released by any and all current and future publishers on
data.gov.ie?



CC-BY is the recommended licence for Ireland’s Open Data Initiative. It is
intended that the Open Data portal will only include appropriately licensed
datasets. However, the Technical Framework
<https://data.gov.ie/technical-framework> allows for a transitional phase
where datasets already on the portal are given time to migrate to CC-BY.



*Regarding Attribution (and the avoidance of attribution stacking):*

The Technical Framework notes that under the CC-BY Licence, users must
acknowledge the source of the Information in their product or application.
Where the Information Provider does not provide a specific attribution
statement users should include, or link to, this attribution statement:
“Contains Irish Public Sector Data licensed under a Creative Commons
Attribution 4.0 International (CC BY 4.0) licence”. If using data from
several Information Providers and listing multiple attributions is not
practical in a product or application, users may include a URI or hyperlink
to a resource that contains the required attribution statements. It seems
reasonable to use http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Contributors as such a
resource. Unless a specific attribution statement is provided, it would be
fair to use the general statement as set out in the Technical framework.



*Regarding what is covered by CC-BY:*

The licence deed for CC-BY is available at
https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/. This deed notes that users
may:



·   Share — copy and redistribute the material in any medium or format,
or

·   Adapt — remix, transform, and build upon the material for any
purpose, even commercially.



*Regarding modification of data:*

Section 3.a (Licence Conditions – Attribution
<https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/legalcode>) of the CC-BY
licence legal code stipulates that users must indicate if they modified the
licensed material and retain an indication of any previous modifications.



The licence deed summarises the terms for attribution — “You must give
appropriate credit, provide a link to the licence, and indicate if changes
were made. You may do so in any reasonable manner, but not in any way that
suggests the licensor endorses you or your use”.



Once these conditions are satisfied, it is reasonable to assume compliance
with datasets licensed as CC-BY.



2. If you deem this is an acceptable method to acknowledge attribution, is
this acceptance enough to cover all current and future publishers using
data.gov.ie to disseminate their data or is individual permission required
from each and every current and future publisher?



A requirement for publication through the Open Data portal is that datasets
are associated with the recommended Open Data licence. Therefore, it is
reasonable to assume that any data published through the portal in the
future will be so associated. The Technical Framework is a living document
that will be expanded upon as technologies and practices evolve, so
licences may also change, if more appropriate standard ones are developed.
However, you can be sure that the Open Data Initiative will not move to a
more restrictive licence.



Please note that Technical Framework’s disclaimer that:



All data linked to the Open Data portal is published “as is”. The
Information is licensed 'as is' and the Information Provider and/or
Licensor excludes all representations, warranties, obligations and
liabilities in relation to the Information to the maximum extent permitted
by law.



The Information Provider and/or Licensor are not liable for any errors or
omissions in the Information and shall not be liable for any loss, injury
or damage of any kind caused by its use. The Information Provider does not
guarantee the continued supply of the Information.



Please let me know if you need any further comments.



Regards

Martin





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*Sent:* 11 April 2016 18:29
*To:* Opendata
*Subject:* Regar

Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Landuse

[Dave Corley]

I've mapped landuse=residential out in the country side though not to a
huge extent but as far as I can tell there's no reason not to (open to
correction). What I mean is, if it's a residential property and would get
mapped as such in the city, the fact it's in the countryside should make no
difference, the same tagging applies.

I take the point about including farmland in that. That should be mapped
separately and tagged appropriately along with farmyard and farm  buildings
mapping.

Dave
On 8 Apr 2016 08:15, "Marc Gemis"  wrote:

> On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 10:35 AM, Rory McCann  wrote:
> > Conversely, I've seen rough landuse=residental drawn over a few houses
> > which are strung out in rural ireland. Most of the area inside the
> > area is fields, not residential. That's not accurate. Map the
> > individual houses, but you don't need a residential landuse for a few
> > houses in rural areas.
> >
> > And not everywhere in OSM needs to be in a "landuse" tag.
>
> Please explain, I am setting my first baby steps in landuse mapping
> and want to know what I should do ?  I have heard other opinions as
> well, but I'm interested why we should not cover the globe with
> landuse/landcover/natural tags.
> Isn't every land in use ? How can we calculate the total amount of
> square meters of land used for living if you do not draw a
> landuse=residential around each small group of houses ?
>
> regards
>
> m
>
> p.s. In Belgium we usually do not have housing estates with a name. So
> we need different criteria anyhow on when we draw a
> landuse=residential area.
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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Landuse

[Dave Corley]

Hi  Colm,

I've seen what you are referring to.

All I can say is what I normally do and that is to leave an area alone
until I've had a chance to survey it.

Once I gather the street and housing estate and apartment block names, I'll
refine the landuse=res by enclosing each in their own boundary where the
boundaries are obvious and applying the name to it.

I've done this for most of Galway City and several of the larger towns in
Galway over the last few years.

When I'm out collecting that level of data I'll typically gather address
data at the same time too. If I'm at a place and surveying, the chances of
me coming back to gather address data separately are pretty slim so I try
get that while I'm there.

As for enclosing large areas I agree. The caveat to what I said above is
that it is dependent on the area being primarily a residential area. An
example would be blocks where the ground level is retail but the remaining
floors are apartments. The building is mixed use and primarily residential
however it is located in a retail area, then I map the area as retail.

This would be a great topic to discuss in more detail at the meet up on the
23rd

Dave
On 5 Apr 2016 21:46, "Colm Moore"  wrote:

> Hi,
> Caution! Moan ahead! :)
>
> There has been talk of adopting a project like mapping all schools. I do
> think it is worthy.
> Could I suggest an alternative in landuse, in particular
> landuse=residential? We map lots of roads, forests and farmland, but not so
> mush residential usage.
> As it stands, there are large gaps in most of the cities, in particular
> city centres, although very little of Cork (residential) has been done at
> all. I accept that in city centres / other older areas it can be difficult
> to separate terraced houses from terraced mixed-use areas, without local
> knowledge.
> Separately, I think some users might be being too coarse in the
> application of landuse=residential and enclosing an entire village in one
> area or a middling-to-large sized town in two. I think it would be more
> useful to implement on a neighbourhood (in older areas) or housing estate
> level (in newer areas). I think it would make maintenance easier,
> especially if an housing estate has a name as a whole, that isn't
> necessarily reflected in the street or townland names, e,g, in Whitehall in
> Dublin, the combination of Walnut Rise, Walnut Lawn, Walnut Avenue, Walnut
> Park, Walnut Court are, for some reason, known as Courtlands (Estate).
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/132713513
> For example, in Malahide, there are about 25 streets with the name Seabury
>  (and a few called Lissadell ) and the area is known as Seabury.
> The origin of the name is the adjacent, but separate, townland of Seatown.
> The neighbouring areas of Yellow Walls and Swords Road are enclosed in the
> same landuse=residential area, although at points there are areas within
> areas, which I think can only make maintenance difficult. In a town of
> 14,000, two landuse=residential areas cover 90-95% of the population, while
> immediately next to it there are several areas used to cover 3-5 house each.
> Any thoughts?
> Thank you
>
> Colm
>
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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] User Accounts in Ireland (was Re: Mobile speed camera zones)

[Dave Corley]

Ignore my previous figure. I didn't see that you are only looking for the
number from the last 12 months.

Dave
On 25 Mar 2016 11:28, "Donie Kelly"  wrote:

> Hi Dan
> Are you making progress with them?
>
> Donie
>
> > On 25 Mar 2016, at 09:04, Daniel Cussen  wrote:
> >
> > Have we any rough idea of the numbers of editors say in the last year
> > who have edited OSM Ireland? Even a wild guess. The Gardai want to
> > know ...
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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] User Accounts in Ireland (was Re: Mobile speed camera zones)

[Dave Corley]

3755 users

Based on info from here http://stat.latlon.org
On 25 Mar 2016 05:40, "Marc Gemis"  wrote:

> I hoped for a moment that Pascal Neis' site would be helpful:
> http://osmstats.neis-one.org/?item=countries=Ireland
>
> but it only gives an overview on how many mappers a day (use the
> arrows next to the graphs) , not a total number of mappers.
>
> Joost Schouppe made a tool for that (he had a presentation on SOTM
> 2014). I'll ask him whether the site is still online
>
> regards
>
> m
>
> On Fri, Mar 25, 2016 at 1:49 AM, Daniel Cussen  wrote:
> > Ca, someone tell me how many user accounts there are than have edited
> > osm irl data (yes there is a reason)
> >
> > On 31/03/2014, Killyfole and District Development Assocation
> >  wrote:
> >> Colm,
> >>
> >> It is because no-one has added those details yet.  Road sections can be
> >> tagged with what ever
> >> data we wish to tag them with.  The OSM wiki describes how to use the
> tags.
> >> Speed on that
> >> section of way is tagging using maxspeed=*  We use the ref=* tag to
> record
> >> the road reference
> >> number ie R999, L etc
> >>
> >> The following link is a visual layer which colour codes the speed limits
> >> stored in the OSM
> >> database and shows it on an OSM map.  The small key on the right shows
> the
> >> legend/key for
> >> the colours.  As you zoom in, minor roads will appear. Grey roads
> indicate
> >> that we do not have
> >> data available for those sections.
> >>
> >>
> http://www.itoworld.com/map/35?lon=-7.03486=53.36929=8=true
> >>
> >> Notice that the North speeds are a yellow/green colour, this is because
> the
> >> speed limits here
> >> are in miles per hour, not km/h.
> >>
> >> I suggest you come along to #osm-ie and have a chat.
> >>
> >> KDDA
> >>
> >>
> >>> However, with an adjacent minor road:
> >>> https://www.openstreetmap.org/edit?editor=id#map=16/53.7570/-6.3205 it
> >>> does
> >>> not have "Lanes" or "Reference". Is this because it is an unclassified
> >>> road? How does one record the local road number?
> >>>
> >>> Colm
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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Doodle Poll for next OpenStreetMap Ireland meetup

[Dave Corley]

Poll updated to include 19th Mar

Would people mind voting sooner, rather than later to see if the 19th is a
good option

Cheers,
Dave

On Sat, Mar 5, 2016 at 10:06 PM, Daniel Cussen <d...@post.com> wrote:

> Yes myself and Jukes are involved. Rory works outside of Ireland now
> but lurks on all mailing lists. I think my suggested date would be
> best, but we would need to decide quickly in order to get approval.
>
> On 05/03/2016, Dave Corley <davecor...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Daniel,
> >
> > Thanks for that info, I wasn't aware you were a member, I think it was
> > Jules (& Rory) I spoke with last time. I also forgot about the move,
> that's
> > an oops on my part. The 360 photos on the site are great, the new space
> > looks huge.
> >
> > Dave
> > On 5 Mar 2016 16:33, "Daniel Cussen" <d...@post.com> wrote:
> >
> >> TOG has moved from old place to Blackpitts. It is 3 times the size. It
> >> has free parking (more at the weekend) and bike lock stands.
> >>
> >> https://www.tog.ie/location/
> >>
> >> If you organise the same day as a social E.g. Sat March 19th, you can
> >> hang around afterwards. As I TOG member I can open up etc. We would
> >> need a MINIMUM of 2 weeks notice of an exact date to book and get
> >> approval. This is done to allow any objections but also to allow
> >> proper promotion and advertising so we can make the most of events.
> >> That date would suit me best. I am away many other weekends.
> >>
> >> I would suggest 1 or 2pm start with the social night starting 7pm
> >> onwards.?
> >>
> >> On 05/03/2016, Dave Corley <davecor...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > Hi all,
> >> >
> >> > Its been too long since our last meetup!
> >> >
> >> > I've put up a doodle poll to gauge the best possible date. As usual,
> >> > the
> >> > meet will be on a weekend and will run from 12-6pm (usually starts to
> >> wind
> >> > down from 5) and then on to somewhere nearby for a drink or a bite to
> >> > eat
> >> > afterwards. There won't be food or drink provided so you would need to
> >> > bring your own.
> >> >
> >> > The poll link is - http://doodle.com/poll/2qt2hfichacnqc5f
> >> >
> >> > Please vote for any dates that suit you, the one with the most votes
> >> > will
> >> > obviously be the first choice but will be dependent on Tog
> >> > availability.
> >> >
> >> > For anyone thinking of travelling from outside Dublin but unsure of
> the
> >> > logistics of getting to Tog, there is:
> >> > - a multi-story parking lot 2 mins walk away
> >> > - a Dublin bikes stand 2 mins walk away
> >> > - St.Stephens Green Luas stop 8 mins walk away
> >> >
> >> > Looking forward to seeing you all again,
> >> > Dave
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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Doodle Poll for next OpenStreetMap Ireland meetup

[Dave Corley]

Daniel,

Thanks for that info, I wasn't aware you were a member, I think it was
Jules (& Rory) I spoke with last time. I also forgot about the move, that's
an oops on my part. The 360 photos on the site are great, the new space
looks huge.

Dave
On 5 Mar 2016 16:33, "Daniel Cussen" <d...@post.com> wrote:

> TOG has moved from old place to Blackpitts. It is 3 times the size. It
> has free parking (more at the weekend) and bike lock stands.
>
> https://www.tog.ie/location/
>
> If you organise the same day as a social E.g. Sat March 19th, you can
> hang around afterwards. As I TOG member I can open up etc. We would
> need a MINIMUM of 2 weeks notice of an exact date to book and get
> approval. This is done to allow any objections but also to allow
> proper promotion and advertising so we can make the most of events.
> That date would suit me best. I am away many other weekends.
>
> I would suggest 1 or 2pm start with the social night starting 7pm onwards.?
>
> On 05/03/2016, Dave Corley <davecor...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Its been too long since our last meetup!
> >
> > I've put up a doodle poll to gauge the best possible date. As usual, the
> > meet will be on a weekend and will run from 12-6pm (usually starts to
> wind
> > down from 5) and then on to somewhere nearby for a drink or a bite to eat
> > afterwards. There won't be food or drink provided so you would need to
> > bring your own.
> >
> > The poll link is - http://doodle.com/poll/2qt2hfichacnqc5f
> >
> > Please vote for any dates that suit you, the one with the most votes will
> > obviously be the first choice but will be dependent on Tog availability.
> >
> > For anyone thinking of travelling from outside Dublin but unsure of the
> > logistics of getting to Tog, there is:
> > - a multi-story parking lot 2 mins walk away
> > - a Dublin bikes stand 2 mins walk away
> > - St.Stephens Green Luas stop 8 mins walk away
> >
> > Looking forward to seeing you all again,
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[OSM-talk-ie] Doodle Poll for next OpenStreetMap Ireland meetup

[Dave Corley]

Hi all,

Its been too long since our last meetup!

I've put up a doodle poll to gauge the best possible date. As usual, the
meet will be on a weekend and will run from 12-6pm (usually starts to wind
down from 5) and then on to somewhere nearby for a drink or a bite to eat
afterwards. There won't be food or drink provided so you would need to
bring your own.

The poll link is - http://doodle.com/poll/2qt2hfichacnqc5f

Please vote for any dates that suit you, the one with the most votes will
obviously be the first choice but will be dependent on Tog availability.

For anyone thinking of travelling from outside Dublin but unsure of the
logistics of getting to Tog, there is:
- a multi-story parking lot 2 mins walk away
- a Dublin bikes stand 2 mins walk away
- St.Stephens Green Luas stop 8 mins walk away

Looking forward to seeing you all again,
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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Schools project - update 3

[Dave Corley]

I've been following the project with great interest but there's a number of
limiting factors preventing us doing the same at the moment, specifically
addressing (townland project fixes that) and location of the schools.

The dept of ed here releases a monthly file with all schools info for the
country but lacks location information.

However, with the onset of open data in the government, there are a few
options that will allow for combining datasets to get what we need.

For example add
* Dept of Education schools file (school data)
To
* Polling stations datasets (location data)

Gives a combination of school info and location together.

Sadly the polling station datasets are done at County council level and so
far I've found only 2 released under cc-by.

More will follow, but right now that's what is holding back something like
this in the south.

I've contacted the dept of education to ask for location data and was told
no, with no elaboration. But that was a long while back. It might be worth
chasing them up again

Dave
On 26 Jan 2016 23:55, "Rob Nickerson"  wrote:

> Yes, it's a "quarterly project" to map schools. Just a bit of fun started
> by the Mappa Mercia community in England. The aim is to inspire a few
> people to map by giving them an idea of what to help with. Hopefully we
> will inspire new mappers as well. I'm sharing on talk-ie in case anyone
> wants to get involved either as a mapper or by running an initiative to
> help attract new mappers in your area. Many of our tools can also be
> generalised to include Republic of Ireland if there is a desire for this.
>
> The project is listed at
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/UK_Quarterly_Projects
>
> And the progress tracker I was referring to is at
> http://robert.mathmos.net/osm/schools/progress/
>
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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Article about OSM Ireland

[Dave Corley]

Yeah, that's Manaboutcouch, and if he's checking his mails he should see
this, but I'll give him a shout on Twitter anyway

Dave
On 23 Dec 2015 21:56, "Killyfole and District Development Association" <
webmas...@killyfole.org.uk> wrote:

> Another question,
>
> Donal mentioned in IRC channel today about the following
> article/publication:
>
>
> http://www.geoconnexion.com/uploads/publication_pdfs/uk-v11i6-osm-great-guns-ireland.pdf
>
> Some very interesting history there, I wonder could we get permission to
> hack
> it a bit for an OSM Ireland history page on the website?  I don't think I
> know
> the author, anyone got contact with him?
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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Permission to use a photograph from the map Lesotho blog

[Dave Corley]

Cleared it with Ciaran, go ahead and use it
On 23 Dec 2015 21:30, "Killyfole and District Development Association" <
webmas...@killyfole.org.uk> wrote:

> Hi folks,
>
> I would like to use the image at the following URL:
>
> https://maplesotho.files.wordpress.com/2015/12/img-20151204-wa0013.jpg
>
> To add it to the OpenStreetMap Ireland blog.  Namely, the following post by
> Dermot:
>
>
> http://www.openstreetmap.ie/90-young-mappers-and-one-flabbergasted-older-one/
>
> Would anyone know the copyright owner and be able to ask for permission to
> publish/use it on our blog?
>
> Clive ( KDDA )
>
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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Traffic Islands, pedestrian areas and footways for routing purposes

[Dave Corley]

I marked this along with other mails to reply to and somehow missed it so
apologies for the late reply

I took a quick look in taginfo [1] (we also have a version for Ireland
incase people didn't know [2]) and in the wiki and the most used option is
traffic_calming=island (14k)

There is also landuse=traffic_island (2k uses). While neither way is wrong
per se, the traffic_calming one fits within the traffic_calming schema so
is probably the better option

There's some sparse detail on the wiki about it here [3] and here [4]

In terms of access, if there is a barrier running down the middle, map the
barrier as such e.g. barrier=fence etc

With regards to routing, you can test that out on the OSM site. I used your
O Connell Street example [5].

Something such as the meridian in OC Street, I'm not sure that would be
considered a traffic island?

1 - http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/
2 - http://taginfo.openstreetmap.ie/
3 - http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:traffic_calming - Bottom of page
4 - http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:traffic_calming%3Disland
5 -
http://www.openstreetmap.org/directions?engine=mapzen_foot=53.3474%2C-6.2595%3B53.3524%2C-6.2613#map=16/53.3499/-6.2603

Hope this helps
Dave


On Tue, Dec 8, 2015 at 3:04 PM, Conor  wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Colm and myself raised an issue relating to pedestrianised areas and
> footways a month ago and there was no response at the time. This
> issues are ongoing and I'm wondering if anyone has an opinion a month
> later? I'll include Colm's and my own original messages below. Thanks
>
> =
>
> Hi,
> I'm wondering what the best way is to deal with traffic islands - the
> parts of roads that aren't roadway / carriageway and aren't lateral
> footways / footpaths. Sometimes they are unmapped, sometimes they are
> mapped as pedestrian areas and/or pedestrian ways .
> On the road, they generally come in one of three fashions:1. No
> pedestrian access / no meaningful pedestrian use, e.g. Dorset Street
> Lower in Dublin, where  there are trees every 10 meters that block the
> way. Not mapped, other than as two separate roadways. Should these be
> mapped at all?
>
> https://www.google.ie/maps/@53.3599777,-6.261141,3a,75y,44.35h,85.42t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1s0YTaJATDMDakjhiLjRa__w!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo2.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3D0YTaJATDMDakjhiLjRa__w%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D219.34166%26pitch%3D0!7i13312!8i6656
> 2. Those where pedestrian access is an important part of their use,
> e.g. at the central median on O'Connell Bridge in Dublin. Mapped as
> pedestrian area linked to pedestrian ways at the south end, but not
> the north end, effectively making it a cul de sac. I'm not sure how
> route planners treat areas.
>
> https://www.google.ie/maps/@53.3470972,-6.2591266,3a,75y,90t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1s7ed2ZerYJnbZnrW-0cHENQ!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo2.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3D7ed2ZerYJnbZnrW-0cHENQ%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D94.366425%26pitch%3D0!7i13312!8i6656
> 3. Traffic islands at signaled junctions generally, e.g. at the
> junction of O'Connell Bridge / D'Olier Street / Westmoreland Street.
> Mapped as pedestrian areas and pedestrian ways.
> Thank you
> Colm
>
> =
>
> Hi Colm,
>
> Perhaps you're the same Colm that I was in touch with on a similar
> subject a few days ago? If so, we had discussed raising this on the
> mailing list so either way this would be as good a time to add some
> further thoughts to the subject if that's ok. Apologies for the long
> read...
>
> The aspects you drew attention here to are really interesting as they
> highlight how differently all contributors to OSM can see the value,
> use and appeal of the map. I myself am more biased towards visual
> reading of maps (yes, that old fashioned way) and sometimes see people
> question the value of mapping something where I see no question at
> all. All valid questions though, of course. In my attempts at
> recommending OSM to various friends and work colleagues for actual map
> usage most try and use it for visual reading of a map (they generally
> find it doesn't work as well as Google for directions), whereas any
> friends who would be more technically inclined often find the routing,
> tools and contributing more appealing.
>
> I've come across a potential clash of solutions for drawing and
> tagging for routing applications vs drawing and tagging for visual
> applications on OSM. As mentioned above, people contributing to the
> map can be attracted to it for varying reasons and I caught a pattern
> occuring in lots of areas I was contributing to. Seeing that all
> applications and uses should be catered for as best as possible,
> myself and VictorIE (the same Colm?) got talking about our difference
> of opinions on the matter.
>
> The issue I raised revolves around the use of short, sporadic footways
> that appear in locations 

Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Congratulations to Stephen on passing the ten thousand mark

[Dave Corley]

Awesome job
On 28 Nov 2015 20:10, "Killyfole and District Development Association" <
webmas...@killyfole.org.uk> wrote:

> Just wanted to shout out to Stephen ( http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/
> Stephen_Co_Antrim ) to congratulate him on mapping 10,006 townlands (
> http://
> www.townlands.ie/mappers/ )  Amazing work!
>
> KDDA
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Re: [OSM-talk] From osmf-talk: "Balancing the presence of the Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team (HOT US Inc) in the OpenStreetMap Foundation"

[Dave Corley]

It's an open election, open to anyone to stand and open to anyone (members)
to vote for who they choose.

Not to be blunt, but if you don't like that, propose an amendment to the
governing rules which can be voted on.

In other words, to paraphrase the techies, patches welcome

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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Putting Out Data Fires; life with the OpenStreetMap DWG

[Dave Corley]

Ha! My avatar is famous :)

Really good presentation by Jo, thanks for sharing

On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 4:33 PM, Keith  wrote:

> This might be of interest...
>
> Jo Walsh talk 'Putting Out Data Fires; life with the OpenStreetMap DWG' as
> part of  Programmable City’s Data and the City workshop in Maynooth.
>
> https://vimeo.com/138624551
>
> http://www.maynoothuniversity.ie/progcity/
>
> Keith
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[OSM-talk-ie] OSGeo Ireland - Local Chapter Starting Out

[Dave Corley]

Folks,

Just a quick mail to let you know that there is a local chapter of OSGeo
forming at the moment (very early days yet).

OSGeo was created to support the collaborative development of open source
geospatial software, and promote its widespread use.

In other words, OSGeo is to Esri (ArcGIS etc) what OpenStreetMap is to OSi.

To give you an idea of some of the software it supports. see below

== Web Mapping ==
deegree
geomajas
GeoMOOSE
GeoServer
Mapbender
MapBuilder
MapFish
MapGuide Open Source
MapServer
OpenLayers

== Desktop Applications ==
GRASS GIS
Marble
QGIS

== Geospatial Libraries ==
FDO
GDAL/OGR
GEOS
GeoTools
OSSIM
PostGIS

If anyone is currently using any software in this field or interested in
learning more, the chapter wiki is here [1].

You can also sign up for the mailing list to keep up to date on
developments and hear about workshops, meetings, etc. here [2]

Dave

[1] http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Ireland
[2] http://lists.osgeo.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ireland

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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Next Meetup - Sat 12th Sept

[Dave Corley]

Manaboutcouch (Richard) will be there, Ciaran (Fingal CoCo) and Colin
(TomTom) will be there from MapLesotho. Brianh (Hollinshead) will be there,
he's an old gent who always brings some cool OOC maps. Donal may be there,
not sure and a few others too probably
On 11 Sep 2015 22:26, "Killyfole and District Development Association" <
webmas...@killyfole.org.uk> wrote:

> Who all is going tomorrow?
>
> On Friday 11 September 2015 20:18:01 Dave Corley wrote:
> > Unfortunately, due to several issues here in work, I have to work this
> > weekend so I won't be able to make the event tomorrow
> >
> > I've spoken with Jules at Tog and everything is still good to go
> > regardless.
> >
> > Sorry I won't be in attendance
> >
> > Dave
>
>
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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Next Meetup - Sat 12th Sept

[Dave Corley]

Apologies, working late last night when I got the word, thanks for passing
the word
On 8 Sep 2015 14:09, "Daniel Cussen"  wrote:

> http://www.openstreetmap.ie/events/
> is now updated. Thanks all.
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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] A UK/GB OpenStreetMap group

[Dave Corley]

Good point, something I hadn't considered
On 10 Aug 2015 15:37, Rory McCann r...@technomancy.org wrote:

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  - In terms of representation, when it comes to looking for data
  from govt. bodies, again I would keep it simple. For formal (in
  person, snail mail) representations, if the body is based in NI, it
  falls to OSM Ireland, if the body is based elsewhere it falls to
  OSM UK.

 I don't know about this. I'd suggest allowing either group to be able
 to make formal representations. Who knows, maybe some governmental
 body might be more receptive to something from one group or the other?
 Both groups can and should discuss together before making any formal
 requests. We both want the same thing, and it would suck if we tied
 ourselves down to one method that will bite us later. Why not keep our
 options open?

 Rory
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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] A UK/GB OpenStreetMap group

[Dave Corley]

Hi Rob,

I've been thinking about this recently as I'm putting together a proposed
Constitution for OpenStreetMap Ireland at the moment and will be sending it
out for feedback shortly. One piece of feedback was that the issue of
coverage should be called out in a mission statement or some other formal
document.

If we are doing this, and you are in the process of setting up OSM UK, then
I think we should be smart in how we do it so that its simple in practice,
workable and fair for all parties. You also have several regional groups so
I'm assuming this will come up anyway in relation to Mappa Mercia, OSM
Scotland etc. What I'm thinking is something along the lines of the
following:

- In terms of membership, leave it to the individual themselves to decide
which to join, OSM Ireland or OSM UK.

- In terms of logistics, data, resources, everything we have at the moment
covers both North  South equally so it makes sense to stay as is. If OSM
UK chose to supply additional resources we can always link to those and
vice versa without restriction.

- In terms of representation, when it comes to looking for data from govt.
bodies, again I would keep it simple. For formal (in person, snail mail)
representations, if the body is based in NI, it falls to OSM Ireland, if
the body is based elsewhere it falls to OSM UK. For informal (email, phone)
its open to either entity, but it would be a good idea to for us to contact
you in advance (and vice versa) to see if you have already been down the
same road before.

Those would cover 99.9% of things that might crop up. For the 0.1%, add a
statement that anything else can be sorted as they arise, between rep's for
each entity and in the event of no agreement, escalate to the OSMF for a
final decision (though I can't ever see that being required).

Let me know what you think and if you have had this come up in relation to
the other smaller groups within the UK so far.

Dave

On Mon, Aug 3, 2015 at 6:49 PM, Rory McCann r...@technomancy.org wrote:

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 Hi Rob,

 Thanks for your email. Yes, we're looking into setting up OSMIE, but
 I'm not sure how far along that is at this stage.

 On 02/08/15 13:55, Rob Nickerson wrote:
  Personally I see no problem in going UK and those in NI can then
  join either group (or better still, both). This would work the same
  as if a OSM-Scotland group was formalised - those members can then
  be part of both the OSM-Scotland and OSM-UK/GB group.
 
  That's just my view. What is important to me is that I hear your
  views on this.

 That's basically the decision we came to here on talk-ie. You can see
 some of the discussion here (
 https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-ie/2014-November/000772.html
 ). It makes a lot of sense for some of the things we're doing that
 might require talking to outside bodies, such as requesting old maps
 for mapping townlands.

 Likewise, I think we're of the view that you can have overlapping
 areas and people can join which ones they want.

  Whatever we end up doing I think it would be great if we could
  work together on this. We both are going to need to set up a
  constitution and then once established we can share work and even
  do joint events.

 Definitely! Best of luck!

 Rory

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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Map request

[Dave Corley]

Thanks Donal

regarding 14-21, it was one I spotted when I was scanning for GSI sheets
and just assumed it was one based on the quality. On closer inspection its
good enough to use

Cheers,
Dave

On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 6:20 PM, Donal Diamond donal.diam...@gmail.com
wrote:

 On 27 July 2015 at 21:03, Dave Corley davecor...@gmail.com wrote:

  Donal,
 
  Would you mind uploading the following for me
 
  11-25 NE+SE
 

 Done

 http://brazil-edge-cache-1002.dub12.amazon.com/s3proxy/list.cgi

 http://mapwarper.net/maps?field=titlequery=IRL-GSGS-3906-11-25show_warped=0


  Also, the Bodelian replacements for these GSI sheets
 
  17-23-SW + SE + NE
 


 http://mapwarper.net/maps?field=titlequery=IRL-GSGS-3906-17-23show_warped=0


 
  17-21-NE
 


 http://mapwarper.net/maps?field=titlequery=IRL-GSGS-3906-17-21show_warped=0


 
  14-21-NW
 

 Don't have a Bodleain version of that - it didn't have a -GSI in name so we
 didn't request that one.

 D



 
  Cheers
  Dave
 
 
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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Map request

[Dave Corley]

Donal,

Would you mind uploading the following for me

11-25 NE+SE

Also, the Bodelian replacements for these GSI sheets

17-23-SW + SE + NE

17-21-NE

14-21-NW

Cheers
Dave

On Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 3:37 PM, Donal Diamond donal.diam...@gmail.com
wrote:

 On 16 July 2015 at 20:53, Stephen Roulston srouls...@me.com wrote:

  Could I request 20/41 please. I think just NE Ramelton is up at the
 moment.
 

 Sorry for delay - was away.

 Here you go:


 http://mapwarper.net/maps?field=titlequery=IRL-GSGS-3906-20-41show_warped=0

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[OSM-talk-ie] Townland Mapping Progress - July Update

[Dave Corley]

Hi all,

Its still fantastic to see progress being made on a daily basis on this
project. We passed the 50% mark a while back and are now currently sitting
on 55% completed or 33,000 out of 61,000. Its also great to see that we
have no counties left sitting at 0%.

I'd like to take a moment to call out everyone who has contributed to this
so far. The scale of this project is seriously massive and its only with
the help of many people doing their bit, that we can hope to complete this
in any sort of reasonable time frame. Every contribution, however big or
small, is greatly appreciated, so thank you all! You can see the full list
of contributors to Townland mapping at http://www.townlands.ie/mappers/

Full breakdown below, as always, all this info is pulled from rorym's great
townlands.ie site

== Completed ==

14 in total

Antrim
Armagh
Carlow
Derry
Down
Fermanagh
Laois
Longford
Meath
Offaly
Sligo
Westmeath
Wexford
Wicklow

== ETA 6-8 Weeks ==

Dublin
Kilkenny (welcome to the project murtcostello)
Monaghan
Roscommon

== All others ==

The rest I've broken into 2 groups, those that are actively being mapped,
however fast or slow and the latter group is those that look like they are
inactive presently. On a side note, its a good indication of the progress
being made and the increasing number of people mapping these, that the
bottom list is getting smaller with each update.

= Active =

Galway 69%
Tyrone 58%
Louth 57%
Clare 51%
Cavan 40%
Tipperary 17%
Limerick 15%
Cork 4%

= Inactive =

Kildare 71%
Leitrim 48%
Donegal 17%
Mayo 17%
Kerry 5%
Waterford 1%

Thanks,
Dave
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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Eircode Next steps?

[Dave Corley]

The size of those polygons would be too large to be of much use to anyone
for anything I fear.

I had a play around on the eircode site tonight and it's honestly going to
be a mess to ever make use of the data especially when it comes to
apartment buildings where you will have dozens of Eircodes inside it.

They did well designing it this way, ensures that it will be such a costly
burden to maintain that it's unlikely to ever be opened up. Future revenues
guaranteed.

Dave
On 14 Jul 2015 22:23, moltonel molto...@gmail.com wrote:



 On 14 July 2015 18:47:21 GMT+01:00, Colm Moore colmmoor...@hotmail.com
 wrote:
  addr:county doesn't seem to be used a lot (only ~600 according to
  taginfo).
 
 I think part of the reason addr:county (646) is populated so little
 compared to addr:city (20404) is that there is a field presented for
 city, but not county.

 More than that, there is no reason to set addr:county anywhere in Ireland,
 for the same reason that addr:country is not needed: because the countr?y
 multipolygons cover the whole territory. Adding an addr:country/county/city
 tag is only usefull for addresses not inside the corresponding MP.

 Revently, rather than adding addr:city everywhere, I added
 a city MP around Kilkenny for that reason (I hadn't done that before
 because there's no official city boundary that i onow of, but an
 approximation is better than nothing).

 Concerning Eircode, I wonder about the sanity of attempting to replicate
 that db in osm by puting addr:postcode on every node (indeed I dont think
 that eircode is sane to begin with). Is maping only eircode postal districts
 (as polygons) useful ? It'd be comparatively trivial.
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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Submission by OSM Ireland to the public consultation on Ireland's Open Data Initiative

[Dave Corley]

Thanks all for the last few suggested changes

I've gone with John's suggestion and listed everyone who contributed as a
contributor regardless of how big or small the contribution with the
exception of whoever signed in as Its Muck. Let me know your actual name
if you want it added whoever you are, you had some good input

I'll be sending this off shortly

Thanks again to all who gave input, it was greatly appreciated

Dave



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 On 14/07/15 00:57, Dave Corley wrote:

 Hi all,

 So there has been a great response to this, with close to 70 suggestions
 for improvements, so thank you all for giving your time to this, it is
 greatly appreciated. I have opened the document now for people to add
 their
 names under the authors field on the front page.

 Erm, how about Contributors, rather than authors... you are the primary
 author.

 Regards
 John




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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Submission by OSM Ireland to the public consultation on Ireland's Open Data Initiative

[Dave Corley]

Hi all,

So there has been a great response to this, with close to 70 suggestions
for improvements, so thank you all for giving your time to this, it is
greatly appreciated. I have opened the document now for people to add their
names under the authors field on the front page. It will stay open for a
day or so, I have to submit it on Wednesday.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1bR9KwaP9IgBpVm_btn8EOa0j3rIe2SPcQjosmU1ZkOo/edit?usp=sharing

Thanks,
Dave



On Fri, Jul 3, 2015 at 2:07 AM, Dave Corley davecor...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi all,

 Recently Minister Howlin launched another public consultation on June 15th
 with regards to the strategy around Irelands Open Data Initiative.

 There are 2 main documents for review under the consultation, both
 available at this link - http://www.per.gov.ie/open-data/

 I have started formulating a consultation submission which is OSM Ireland
 focused i.e. we are concerned about licencing, we are primarily interested
 in geodata etc. However I have given answers to all the consultation
 questions regardless, because why not.

 If nobody objects, I would like the finished submission to be considered
 as a response from OSM Ireland as a whole.

 You can find the submission document here -
 https://docs.google.com/document/d/1bR9KwaP9IgBpVm_btn8EOa0j3rIe2SPcQjosmU1ZkOo/edit?usp=sharing

 I have set it so anyone can comment, rather than anyone can edit simply
 because it'll become very messy and difficult to track if there are 10-20
 people editing.

 I hope many of you will take this opportunity to contribute to this as the
 process around setting up open data from a government perspective is at a
 crucial stage where the decisions made over the next few months will likely
 be the foundation for things to come for many years and there's a lot of
 good data sitting on govt. servers that I would hope we could make use of
 down the road.

 The response is due no later than July 15th so I would like to leave this
 run for the next week to 10 days, make any changes suggested through your
 comments / feedback and then share a final draft at which point, anyone who
 wishes to, can add their name as a contributing author, before finally
 submitting it on or around the 14th July.

 It should be noted that the consultation is open for anyone to provide
 feedback so if you wish to submit a response personally you can do that
 too.

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[Dave Corley]

Thanks Daniel, much appreciated
On 3 Jul 2015 09:36, Daniel Cussen d...@post.com wrote:

 Added my notes. I can see others edits too.

 On 03/07/2015, Killian Driscoll killiandrisc...@gmail.com wrote:
  Hi, yeah, first time I've used Google doc like this so not sure. Hope my
  comments are a little help
 
  Killian Driscoll
  Banting Postdoctoral Fellow
  Département d'anthropologie
  Université de Montréal
 
  umontreal.academia.edu/KillianDriscoll
  www.lithicsireland.ie
  ca.linkedin.com/in/killiandriscoll
 
  On 2 July 2015 at 21:54, Dave Corley davecor...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  I can see them. Can others I wonder? Not sure how comments work in
 Google
  docs, will soon find out I guess
 
  It's late so I only scanned your comments briefly but they're all good
  from
  what I can see
 
  Appreciate the input Killian
 
  Dave
  On 3 Jul 2015 02:48, Killian Driscoll killiandrisc...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
   Hi, for what its worth I've added a few comments and some general
   copy-editing. I hope you can see the comments on the drive doc. (I'm
   guessing my comments will be automatically visible to you, here's the
  link
   anyway
  
  
 
 https://docs.google.com/document/d/1bR9KwaP9IgBpVm_btn8EOa0j3rIe2SPcQjosmU1ZkOo/edit?usp=sharing
  
   Sorry, I really don't have time right now to add much more than that
   (I'm
   finishing up a huge project and moving continent in the next few
  days).
   Please disregard any comments/edits as you see fit!
  
   Killian Driscoll
   Banting Postdoctoral Fellow
   Département d'anthropologie
   Université de Montréal
  
   umontreal.academia.edu/KillianDriscoll
   www.lithicsireland.ie
   ca.linkedin.com/in/killiandriscoll
  
   On 2 July 2015 at 21:07, Dave Corley davecor...@gmail.com wrote:
  
Hi all,
   
Recently Minister Howlin launched another public consultation on
 June
   15th
with regards to the strategy around Irelands Open Data Initiative.
   
There are 2 main documents for review under the consultation, both
available at this link - http://www.per.gov.ie/open-data/
   
I have started formulating a consultation submission which is OSM
  Ireland
focused i.e. we are concerned about licencing, we are primarily
   interested
in geodata etc. However I have given answers to all the consultation
questions regardless, because why not.
   
If nobody objects, I would like the finished submission to be
  considered
   as
a response from OSM Ireland as a whole.
   
You can find the submission document here -
   
   
  
 
 https://docs.google.com/document/d/1bR9KwaP9IgBpVm_btn8EOa0j3rIe2SPcQjosmU1ZkOo/edit?usp=sharing
   
I have set it so anyone can comment, rather than anyone can edit
simply
because it'll become very messy and difficult to track if there are
  10-20
people editing.
   
I hope many of you will take this opportunity to contribute to this
 as
   the
process around setting up open data from a government perspective is
  at a
crucial stage where the decisions made over the next few months will
   likely
be the foundation for things to come for many years and there's a
 lot
  of
good data sitting on govt. servers that I would hope we could make
 use
  of
down the road.
   
The response is due no later than July 15th so I would like to leave
  this
run for the next week to 10 days, make any changes suggested through
  your
comments / feedback and then share a final draft at which point,
anyone
   who
wishes to, can add their name as a contributing author, before
 finally
submitting it on or around the 14th July.
   
It should be noted that the consultation is open for anyone to
 provide
feedback so if you wish to submit a response personally you can do
that
too.
   
Thanks,
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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Design competition for a new logo

[Dave Corley]

The second twitter account will be going shortly.
On 2 Jul 2015 12:50, ke...@vool.ie ke...@vool.ie wrote:

 Site looks good, but why the second twitter account ?

 https://twitter.com/osm_irl

 https://twitter.com/osm_ie

 .k

 On 01/07/15 16:35, Dave Corley wrote:

 Hi all,

 So at the last meetup one thing everyone agreed was that we need to get
 moving on forming into a proper entity. Its something that has been spoken
 about off an on for the last 2 years and something which we have done
 little about.

 With that in mind, I spent most of the meetup working on the website
 www.openstreetmap.ie  and its starting to come together nicely.

 Cliff originally designed the logo on that site but pointed out in a
 recent
 email that it was something that was intended as a placeholder only and
 that a better logo is probably achievable.

 On that basis, using the recent JOSM  Hot logo competition parameters as
 a
 guideline, I'd like to announce a competition for a new logo for
 OpenStreetMap Ireland. This logo will primarily be used on the website and
 twitter, however in time and with the right resources there's no reason it
 wouldn't end up on stickers, t-shirts etc.

 On to the competition guidelines

 *Competition Rules*

 - The competition is open to anyone. Entrants can be an individual or
 team of people, even a design company
 - Entries must be in SVG format
 - Entry designs should be emailed to my atdavecor...@gmail.com  as
 attached SVG file(s) with a subject line of Logo entry from XYZ
 - Entries must be received before midnight GMT on 17th July 2015
 - Artists can make variations of other public domain artwork, although
 credit must be given where credit is due (and credit will be given
 when the
 winner is chosen)
 - Individuals are allowed to submit multiple entries, but you are
 encouraged to put work into one or two designs, and no more than five.
 - The winning design will be chosen by a community vote to be held
 during a one week period from 20th-26th July 2015
 - The winning design will be announced on 01st Aug 2015
 - Have fun!

 *Design Brief*

 *Conceptual Suggestions*

 - Remember, OpenStreetMap Ireland is a cross border group so steer
 clear
 of a design that is overtly Southern or Northern focused
 - The logo should use the current OpenStreetMap logo as a basis, but
 don't let that constrain your design, some out of the box surreal
 design
 might look awesome but then something super simple might look just as
 good
 so don't dismiss anything
 - You may find inspiration among other community designs at
 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Logos#Logo_design_competitions
 or the
 JOSM competition enterieshttps://
 josm.openstreetmap.de/wiki/LogoContest

 *Where will the logo be used?*

 - The twitter account
 - We will also use the logo in the openstreetmap.ie homepage
 - Other electronic materials, proposal documents, presentation slides
 etc.
 - It may get used on printed materials: Letter headings, small
 stickers
 ('moo.com' size), large stickers (to go on boxes), T-shirts.
 - Any other creative uses by the community promoting OpenStreetMap in
 Ireland.

 *Design requirements*

 - *Vector -* The design must be available in a vector format. If you
 do
 not know how to create SVG, team up with someone who does.
 - *Copyright.* You must be willing and able to waive all rights to
 your
 design, handing over copyright ownership to OpenStreetMap Ireland,
 granting
 them a complete and irrevocable right to use, adapt, distribute the
 work.
 Of course, we intend to allow all use and re-use, but we may at some
 point
 need to register the design as a trademark. Let's do away with any
 awkward
 legal barriers up front. We also promise the winning artist(s) will be
 credited, including a link of their choice, on the openstreetmap.ie
 blog, but beyond that we do not guarantee any attribution, and
 certainly
 don't want to require it for downstream uses.
 - *Square -* We're looking for a logo which fits OK in a square area.
 This is to fit with the twitter requirement and also moo stickers.
 The logo
 itself doesn't need to be square shape, but should look OK occupying a
 square area. Text can be added in various configurations afterwards
 (e.g.
 to the right of the logo, to form a horizontal strip for the top of
 the
 openstreetmap.ie homepage)

 *Best of luck!*

 Thanks,
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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Design competition for a new logo

[Dave Corley]

Yup, the osm_ie twitter account is to be the one used.

The osm_irl one was one I setup when putting the site together to get
things working and because I thought it might be a bit more neutral then
the ie account but it seems like that isn't an issue.

Dave
On 2 Jul 2015 14:19, Ken Guest kgu...@php.net wrote:

 I agree. the osm_ie account is older and has a lot more
 history/tweets/followers attached to it which is why I'd suggest keeping it
 in use and ditching the _irl one.

 On 2 July 2015 at 12:49, ke...@vool.ie ke...@vool.ie wrote:

  Site looks good, but why the second twitter account ?
 
  https://twitter.com/osm_irl
 
  https://twitter.com/osm_ie
 
  .k
 
  On 01/07/15 16:35, Dave Corley wrote:
 
  Hi all,
 
  So at the last meetup one thing everyone agreed was that we need to get
  moving on forming into a proper entity. Its something that has been
 spoken
  about off an on for the last 2 years and something which we have done
  little about.
 
  With that in mind, I spent most of the meetup working on the website
  www.openstreetmap.ie  and its starting to come together nicely.
 
  Cliff originally designed the logo on that site but pointed out in a
  recent
  email that it was something that was intended as a placeholder only and
  that a better logo is probably achievable.
 
  On that basis, using the recent JOSM  Hot logo competition parameters
 as
  a
  guideline, I'd like to announce a competition for a new logo for
  OpenStreetMap Ireland. This logo will primarily be used on the website
 and
  twitter, however in time and with the right resources there's no reason
 it
  wouldn't end up on stickers, t-shirts etc.
 
  On to the competition guidelines
 
  *Competition Rules*
 
  - The competition is open to anyone. Entrants can be an individual
 or
  team of people, even a design company
  - Entries must be in SVG format
  - Entry designs should be emailed to my atdavecor...@gmail.com  as
  attached SVG file(s) with a subject line of Logo entry from XYZ
  - Entries must be received before midnight GMT on 17th July 2015
  - Artists can make variations of other public domain artwork,
 although
  credit must be given where credit is due (and credit will be given
  when the
  winner is chosen)
  - Individuals are allowed to submit multiple entries, but you are
  encouraged to put work into one or two designs, and no more than
 five.
  - The winning design will be chosen by a community vote to be held
  during a one week period from 20th-26th July 2015
  - The winning design will be announced on 01st Aug 2015
  - Have fun!
 
  *Design Brief*
 
  *Conceptual Suggestions*
 
  - Remember, OpenStreetMap Ireland is a cross border group so steer
  clear
  of a design that is overtly Southern or Northern focused
  - The logo should use the current OpenStreetMap logo as a basis, but
  don't let that constrain your design, some out of the box surreal
  design
  might look awesome but then something super simple might look just
 as
  good
  so don't dismiss anything
  - You may find inspiration among other community designs at
  http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Logos#Logo_design_competitions
  or the
  JOSM competition enterieshttps://
  josm.openstreetmap.de/wiki/LogoContest
 
 
  *Where will the logo be used?*
 
  - The twitter account
  - We will also use the logo in the openstreetmap.ie homepage
  - Other electronic materials, proposal documents, presentation
 slides
  etc.
  - It may get used on printed materials: Letter headings, small
  stickers
  ('moo.com' size), large stickers (to go on boxes), T-shirts.
  - Any other creative uses by the community promoting OpenStreetMap
 in
  Ireland.
 
  *Design requirements*
 
  - *Vector -* The design must be available in a vector format. If you
  do
  not know how to create SVG, team up with someone who does.
  - *Copyright.* You must be willing and able to waive all rights to
  your
  design, handing over copyright ownership to OpenStreetMap Ireland,
  granting
  them a complete and irrevocable right to use, adapt, distribute the
  work.
  Of course, we intend to allow all use and re-use, but we may at some
  point
  need to register the design as a trademark. Let's do away with any
  awkward
  legal barriers up front. We also promise the winning artist(s) will
 be
  credited, including a link of their choice, on the openstreetmap.ie
  blog, but beyond that we do not guarantee any attribution, and
  certainly
  don't want to require it for downstream uses.
  - *Square -* We're looking for a logo which fits OK in a square
 area.
  This is to fit with the twitter requirement and also moo stickers.
  The logo
  itself doesn't need to be square shape, but should look OK
 occupying a
  square area. Text can be added in various configurations afterwards
  (e.g

[OSM-talk-ie] Submission by OSM Ireland to the public consultation on Ireland's Open Data Initiative

[Dave Corley]

Hi all,

Recently Minister Howlin launched another public consultation on June 15th
with regards to the strategy around Irelands Open Data Initiative.

There are 2 main documents for review under the consultation, both
available at this link - http://www.per.gov.ie/open-data/

I have started formulating a consultation submission which is OSM Ireland
focused i.e. we are concerned about licencing, we are primarily interested
in geodata etc. However I have given answers to all the consultation
questions regardless, because why not.

If nobody objects, I would like the finished submission to be considered as
a response from OSM Ireland as a whole.

You can find the submission document here -
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1bR9KwaP9IgBpVm_btn8EOa0j3rIe2SPcQjosmU1ZkOo/edit?usp=sharing

I have set it so anyone can comment, rather than anyone can edit simply
because it'll become very messy and difficult to track if there are 10-20
people editing.

I hope many of you will take this opportunity to contribute to this as the
process around setting up open data from a government perspective is at a
crucial stage where the decisions made over the next few months will likely
be the foundation for things to come for many years and there's a lot of
good data sitting on govt. servers that I would hope we could make use of
down the road.

The response is due no later than July 15th so I would like to leave this
run for the next week to 10 days, make any changes suggested through your
comments / feedback and then share a final draft at which point, anyone who
wishes to, can add their name as a contributing author, before finally
submitting it on or around the 14th July.

It should be noted that the consultation is open for anyone to provide
feedback so if you wish to submit a response personally you can do that
too.

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[Dave Corley]

I can see them. Can others I wonder? Not sure how comments work in Google
docs, will soon find out I guess

It's late so I only scanned your comments briefly but they're all good from
what I can see

Appreciate the input Killian

Dave
On 3 Jul 2015 02:48, Killian Driscoll killiandrisc...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi, for what its worth I've added a few comments and some general
 copy-editing. I hope you can see the comments on the drive doc. (I'm
 guessing my comments will be automatically visible to you, here's the link
 anyway

 https://docs.google.com/document/d/1bR9KwaP9IgBpVm_btn8EOa0j3rIe2SPcQjosmU1ZkOo/edit?usp=sharing

 Sorry, I really don't have time right now to add much more than that (I'm
 finishing up a huge project and moving continent in the next few days).
 Please disregard any comments/edits as you see fit!

 Killian Driscoll
 Banting Postdoctoral Fellow
 Département d'anthropologie
 Université de Montréal

 umontreal.academia.edu/KillianDriscoll
 www.lithicsireland.ie
 ca.linkedin.com/in/killiandriscoll

 On 2 July 2015 at 21:07, Dave Corley davecor...@gmail.com wrote:

  Hi all,
 
  Recently Minister Howlin launched another public consultation on June
 15th
  with regards to the strategy around Irelands Open Data Initiative.
 
  There are 2 main documents for review under the consultation, both
  available at this link - http://www.per.gov.ie/open-data/
 
  I have started formulating a consultation submission which is OSM Ireland
  focused i.e. we are concerned about licencing, we are primarily
 interested
  in geodata etc. However I have given answers to all the consultation
  questions regardless, because why not.
 
  If nobody objects, I would like the finished submission to be considered
 as
  a response from OSM Ireland as a whole.
 
  You can find the submission document here -
 
 
 https://docs.google.com/document/d/1bR9KwaP9IgBpVm_btn8EOa0j3rIe2SPcQjosmU1ZkOo/edit?usp=sharing
 
  I have set it so anyone can comment, rather than anyone can edit simply
  because it'll become very messy and difficult to track if there are 10-20
  people editing.
 
  I hope many of you will take this opportunity to contribute to this as
 the
  process around setting up open data from a government perspective is at a
  crucial stage where the decisions made over the next few months will
 likely
  be the foundation for things to come for many years and there's a lot of
  good data sitting on govt. servers that I would hope we could make use of
  down the road.
 
  The response is due no later than July 15th so I would like to leave this
  run for the next week to 10 days, make any changes suggested through your
  comments / feedback and then share a final draft at which point, anyone
 who
  wishes to, can add their name as a contributing author, before finally
  submitting it on or around the 14th July.
 
  It should be noted that the consultation is open for anyone to provide
  feedback so if you wish to submit a response personally you can do that
  too.
 
  Thanks,
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[OSM-talk-ie] Design competition for a new logo

[Dave Corley]

Hi all,

So at the last meetup one thing everyone agreed was that we need to get
moving on forming into a proper entity. Its something that has been spoken
about off an on for the last 2 years and something which we have done
little about.

With that in mind, I spent most of the meetup working on the website
www.openstreetmap.ie and its starting to come together nicely.

Cliff originally designed the logo on that site but pointed out in a recent
email that it was something that was intended as a placeholder only and
that a better logo is probably achievable.

On that basis, using the recent JOSM  Hot logo competition parameters as a
guideline, I'd like to announce a competition for a new logo for
OpenStreetMap Ireland. This logo will primarily be used on the website and
twitter, however in time and with the right resources there's no reason it
wouldn't end up on stickers, t-shirts etc.

On to the competition guidelines

*Competition Rules*

   - The competition is open to anyone. Entrants can be an individual or
   team of people, even a design company
   - Entries must be in SVG format
   - Entry designs should be emailed to my at davecor...@gmail.com as
   attached SVG file(s) with a subject line of Logo entry from XYZ
   - Entries must be received before midnight GMT on 17th July 2015
   - Artists can make variations of other public domain artwork, although
   credit must be given where credit is due (and credit will be given when the
   winner is chosen)
   - Individuals are allowed to submit multiple entries, but you are
   encouraged to put work into one or two designs, and no more than five.
   - The winning design will be chosen by a community vote to be held
   during a one week period from 20th-26th July 2015
   - The winning design will be announced on 01st Aug 2015
   - Have fun!

*Design Brief*

*Conceptual Suggestions*

   - Remember, OpenStreetMap Ireland is a cross border group so steer clear
   of a design that is overtly Southern or Northern focused
   - The logo should use the current OpenStreetMap logo as a basis, but
   don't let that constrain your design, some out of the box surreal design
   might look awesome but then something super simple might look just as good
   so don't dismiss anything
   - You may find inspiration among other community designs at
   http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Logos#Logo_design_competitions or the
   JOSM competition enteries https://josm.openstreetmap.de/wiki/LogoContest

*Where will the logo be used?*

   - The twitter account
   - We will also use the logo in the openstreetmap.ie homepage
   - Other electronic materials, proposal documents, presentation slides
   etc.
   - It may get used on printed materials: Letter headings, small stickers
   ('moo.com' size), large stickers (to go on boxes), T-shirts.
   - Any other creative uses by the community promoting OpenStreetMap in
   Ireland.

*Design requirements*

   - *Vector -* The design must be available in a vector format. If you do
   not know how to create SVG, team up with someone who does.
   - *Copyright.* You must be willing and able to waive all rights to your
   design, handing over copyright ownership to OpenStreetMap Ireland, granting
   them a complete and irrevocable right to use, adapt, distribute the work.
   Of course, we intend to allow all use and re-use, but we may at some point
   need to register the design as a trademark. Let's do away with any awkward
   legal barriers up front. We also promise the winning artist(s) will be
   credited, including a link of their choice, on the openstreetmap.ie
   blog, but beyond that we do not guarantee any attribution, and certainly
   don't want to require it for downstream uses.
   - *Square -* We're looking for a logo which fits OK in a square area.
   This is to fit with the twitter requirement and also moo stickers. The logo
   itself doesn't need to be square shape, but should look OK occupying a
   square area. Text can be added in various configurations afterwards (e.g.
   to the right of the logo, to form a horizontal strip for the top of the
   openstreetmap.ie homepage)

*Best of luck!*

Thanks,
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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Next OpenStreetMap Ireland Meet - 27th June

[Dave Corley]

Hi all,

Just a quick reminder about this, hope to see a lot of you there. If you
haven't already done so, can you drop me, or Ciaran a quick mail to say you
are coming as Fingal Coco want to know how many are attending as far in
advance as possible.

On a side note, Mapillary sent me on a load of phone holders and a few
t-shirts so I'll be giving those out at the event to anyone who wants one.

See you there,
Dave

On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 6:19 PM, Dave Corley davecor...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi all,

 Time for another meetup maybe? I think so :)

 Fingal County Council are kindly donating space (and wifi) for us to use
 in the council building in Swords on 27th Jun located here
 http://osm.org/go/etqCH~JbZ-?m=

 We have the space from 9:30am to 6pm. I'll be sticking around for a while
 in the evening also for anyone who wants to go for drinks or a bite to eat
 afterwards.

 There will be no food provided however you are welcome to bring your own
 or there are plenty of cafe's and shops within a short walk in Swords
 itself.

 As with all other events, its open to anyone, so if you are a long time
 editor / newbie / hacker / data user or just plain curious, you are more
 than welcome.

 For those using the bus, there is a stop right outside the building and it
 is served by the following routes (according to Dublin Bus) 33, 33a, 33b,
 41, 41a, 41b, 41c,  43. Check which best serves you on the Dublin Bus
 website here http://www.dublinbus.ie/en/

 For those driving, you'll want exit 3 off the M1, and there is free
 parking on Saturday on Chapel Lane, just around the corner from the council
 building

 Hope to see you all there

 Thanks,
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[OSM-talk-ie] Next OpenStreetMap Ireland Meet - 27th June

[Dave Corley]

Hi all,

Time for another meetup maybe? I think so :)

Fingal County Council are kindly donating space (and wifi) for us to use in
the council building in Swords on 27th Jun located here
http://osm.org/go/etqCH~JbZ-?m=

We have the space from 9:30am to 6pm. I'll be sticking around for a while
in the evening also for anyone who wants to go for drinks or a bite to eat
afterwards.

There will be no food provided however you are welcome to bring your own or
there are plenty of cafe's and shops within a short walk in Swords itself.

As with all other events, its open to anyone, so if you are a long time
editor / newbie / hacker / data user or just plain curious, you are more
than welcome.

For those using the bus, there is a stop right outside the building and it
is served by the following routes (according to Dublin Bus) 33, 33a, 33b,
41, 41a, 41b, 41c,  43. Check which best serves you on the Dublin Bus
website here http://www.dublinbus.ie/en/

For those driving, you'll want exit 3 off the M1, and there is free parking
on Saturday on Chapel Lane, just around the corner from the council building

Hope to see you all there

Thanks,
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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Joint workshop with Open Knowledge Ireland

[Dave Corley]

Hi Caroline, that's no problem, come when you can
On 12 Jun 2015 10:00, Caroline Lewis carolinele...@eircom.net wrote:

 hope to be there but the earliest train from killarney gets into dublin at
 10.47 - is it ok to arrive so late?
 i could go from mallow but it is a longer drive…

  On 10 Jun 2015, at 17:58, Dave Corley davecor...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Just dropping a reminder about this again. The event is running from 10am
  until 6. Full details here -
  https://ti.to/open-knowledge-ireland/maker-party-hwl
 
  Hope to see some of you there
 
  Thanks,
  Dave
 
  On Fri, May 8, 2015 at 9:05 AM, Caroline Lewis carolinele...@eircom.net
 
  wrote:
 
  OK - i will do my very best to be there :)
 
  On 8 May 2015, at 00:10, Dave Corley davecor...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Not at all Caroline. This is open to anyone. Keep in mind, the main
  objective of the day will be to tidy up hospitals in OSM so that it can
  be
  utilised by OKI so the level of skills needed are quite low, especially
  when compared to the townland mapping.
 
  This is easy to do, it's just there's a lot of tidying up to be done so
  the
  old adage of many hands etc applies.
 
  There are approximately 50 HSE hospitals plus about another 50 private
  hospitals around the country. OKI need the HSE ones but if we have
 enough
  folks I would hope we'd get the private ones sorted too.
 
  If there's enough people there to help, there's no reason we couldn't
  switch to doing something else later in the day once we're done with
 the
  hospitals.
 
  Ahead of the event I'll be setting up a wiki page to make it easier for
  everyone on the day.
 
  Dave
  On 7 May 2015 22:57, Caroline Lewis carolinele...@eircom.net
 wrote:
 
  i am interested but am a bit of a beginner and wouldn’t want to be a
  nuisance!
 
  caroline
  On 7 May 2015, at 22:42, Dave Corley davecor...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Hi Colm,
 
  I'm unsure where they are pulling data from but I do know that
 they're
  actively pushing for data to be released under open licences.
 
  Are many folks interested in coming along? At the very least it would
  be
  great to meet up with a few of you again and for the newer people, a
  good
  chance to put faces and names to OSM nicks.
 
  Dave
  On 7 May 2015 21:06, Colm Moore colmmoor...@hotmail.com wrote:
 
  Hi,
 
  Health Atlas Ireland has someof this data, but the site seems
  unusable.
 
  https://www.healthatlasireland.ie/
 
 
 
 
 http://www.hiqa.ie/resource-centre/professionals/health-information-sources/health-atlas
 
  The HSE 'Services Near You' site seems to be better, but like
  anything,
  some of the data is off.
  http://www.hse.ie/eng/services/maps/
 
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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Joint workshop with Open Knowledge Ireland

[Dave Corley]

Just dropping a reminder about this again. The event is running from 10am
until 6. Full details here -
https://ti.to/open-knowledge-ireland/maker-party-hwl

Hope to see some of you there

Thanks,
Dave

On Fri, May 8, 2015 at 9:05 AM, Caroline Lewis carolinele...@eircom.net
wrote:

 OK - i will do my very best to be there :)

  On 8 May 2015, at 00:10, Dave Corley davecor...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Not at all Caroline. This is open to anyone. Keep in mind, the main
  objective of the day will be to tidy up hospitals in OSM so that it can
 be
  utilised by OKI so the level of skills needed are quite low, especially
  when compared to the townland mapping.
 
  This is easy to do, it's just there's a lot of tidying up to be done so
 the
  old adage of many hands etc applies.
 
  There are approximately 50 HSE hospitals plus about another 50 private
  hospitals around the country. OKI need the HSE ones but if we have enough
  folks I would hope we'd get the private ones sorted too.
 
  If there's enough people there to help, there's no reason we couldn't
  switch to doing something else later in the day once we're done with the
  hospitals.
 
  Ahead of the event I'll be setting up a wiki page to make it easier for
  everyone on the day.
 
  Dave
  On 7 May 2015 22:57, Caroline Lewis carolinele...@eircom.net wrote:
 
  i am interested but am a bit of a beginner and wouldn’t want to be a
  nuisance!
 
  caroline
  On 7 May 2015, at 22:42, Dave Corley davecor...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Hi Colm,
 
  I'm unsure where they are pulling data from but I do know that they're
  actively pushing for data to be released under open licences.
 
  Are many folks interested in coming along? At the very least it would
 be
  great to meet up with a few of you again and for the newer people, a
 good
  chance to put faces and names to OSM nicks.
 
  Dave
  On 7 May 2015 21:06, Colm Moore colmmoor...@hotmail.com wrote:
 
  Hi,
 
  Health Atlas Ireland has someof this data, but the site seems
 unusable.
 
  https://www.healthatlasireland.ie/
 
 
 
 http://www.hiqa.ie/resource-centre/professionals/health-information-sources/health-atlas
 
  The HSE 'Services Near You' site seems to be better, but like
 anything,
  some of the data is off.
  http://www.hse.ie/eng/services/maps/
 
  Colm
 
 
 
 
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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] bridges

[Dave Corley]

To make it easier, go to preferences, and look for tag presets. Activate
one click features or something named similar to that (sorry, afk so
can't give you step by step guide on this bit).

Once done, in the main josm screen, right click on the toolbar and edit it
to add the one click bridge option. From now on just split the road, select
the split piece and click the button and the tags for bridges that way.

I have imagery layers, addressing plugins, often used tags etc all on the
toolbar. Makes it much quicker rather than trying to remember tags or
search through menus

Dave
On 7 Jun 2015 00:15, moltonel 3x Combo molto...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 07/06/2015, Caroline Lewis carolinele...@eircom.net wrote:
  not sure how to add bridges
  correctly - i split at the two nodes that define the bridge , add bridge
 tag
  and then should i also tag as layer = 1?

 Yes that's basicly it. The layer tag says which way is above the
 other. You can add layer=* to either way (or both) but a rule of thumb
 is to add it to the shortest way (usually the bridge).
 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Bridge has some more info.

 The bridge and the underlying waterway/rail/etc shouldn't share a
 node, which can be annoying when maping townlands that follow both the
 bridge and the waterway. In those case, you should use an extra way
 just for the townland boundary. For example
 http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/273846258 or
 http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/344169613

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[OSM-talk-ie] Overpass giving errors

[Dave Corley]

Trying to run searches with the wizard (amenity=hospital etc) and getting
the following error

*Error*: runtime error: open64: 111 Connection refused
/home/roles/overpass/db//osm3s_v0.7.52_osm_base Dispatcher_Client::3

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Re: [OSM-talk] Can wikidata links help fight name inflation?

[Dave Corley]

I am honestly stunned this thread has gone on for as long as it has.

In regards to



 On 05/28/2015 09:19 PM, Frederik Ramm wrote:
  What I would not support in OSM, and like to outsource to Wikidata or
  other, is if speakers of these 20 languages were to start assigning name
  tags in their language to thousands of places in, say, the UK.

 *Especially* if their reasoning was that this makes it nicer for them to
 run a tank through these places in their own-language war simulation
 with their buddies.


On the first point, why not? There are maps of the world in English,
French, German etc etc. I see no logical reason to object to certain
languages being used in the name tag. That is the whole point of the
flexibility of that tag. The scale of usage is null and void. Either its
acceptable everywhere or its acceptable nowhere. Anything in between is
entirely subjective and completely unfair.

On the second point, since when do we care about the motivation about why
certain data gets added. If someone wants to add 3d tagging to utilise in a
3d map they are creating, do we nitpick about that? If Scout adds speed
limits to make their app more effective, do we complain?

Lastly, and I think this is important point. To quote the wiki header
. the project that creates and distributes free geographic data for
the world. Either this is a database of worldwide geodata or its not.
There's no half-way in that statement. Either all cultures, languages,
countries, people and the variety these elements bring in terms of tagging,
is accepted on a universal basis or its not.

If its not, then that's an entirely different conversation.

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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Help with upload error message with josm upload ResponseCode=412 , Error Header=Precondition failed: Way requires the nodes with id in (28645983, 28645984, 28645986)

[Dave Corley]

Ouch, sorry about that. This must have happened last night when we were
both looking at that sheet on the coast.

On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 2:22 PM, Killian Driscoll killiandrisc...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Thanks, I think I managed to upload my edits and resolve the conflicts.

 Killian Driscoll
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 Département d'anthropologie
 Université de Montréal

 umontreal.academia.edu/KillianDriscoll
 www.lithicsireland.ie
 ca.linkedin.com/in/killiandriscoll

 On 19 May 2015 at 08:45, Rory McCann r...@technomancy.org wrote:

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  Hi Killian,
 
  This happens when 2 people are editing one object and one person
  uploads first. The second person will get a conflict/pre-condition
  failed message like you just did.
 
  You can use JOSM's conflict resolution to solve it. Or throw our your
  work and start again. It's better to do lots of little commits, and
  upload often, to limit the damage this can cause. Redownload (or
  Update Data often as well)
 
  This can often happen when adding townlands at the coast. Someone
  could be editing the coastline relation in Cork, while you change it
  in Mayo.
 
  Hope that helps,
 
  Rory
 
  On 19/05/15 00:36, Killian Driscoll wrote:
   I've just got this error message when trying to update josm edits:
   The error message is: ResponseCode=412, Error Header=Precondition
   failed: Way requires the nodes with id in
   (28645983,28645984,28645986), which either do not exist, or are not
   visible.
  
   Any ideas how to fix this?
  
   Killian Driscoll Banting Postdoctoral Fellow Département
   d'anthropologie Université de Montréal
  
   umontreal.academia.edu/KillianDriscoll www.lithicsireland.ie
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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Query on tracing townlands and dealing with changed lake levels and new boundaries

[Dave Corley]

Hi Killian,

I'm trying to recall what was done in the past for this as I'm sure it's
come up.

To the best of my recollection, stick with the boundary markings as they
exist on the map sheets.

Dave


On 14 May 2015 22:12, Killian Driscoll killiandrisc...@gmail.com wrote:

 I've been working on tracing townlands by Lough Conn, Mayo and don't know
 how to deal with some boundaries due to the drop in lake levels from
 drainage works. Here http://osm.org/go/etJ86lqw-?m= you can see that I've
 left out four townlands: Scotchfort, Cappanaglogh, Cloonygunnaun, and
 'Cappanaglogh (Part Of): you can see that the latter is between
 Cappanaglogh, Cloonygunnaun, and with the lake level change and the
 inclusion of a previous island into the townland it's not clear how a new
 boundary should be drawn.

 A related issue is whether the boundaries should be redrawn at all here, or
 if the original pre-drainage works lake level boundary should be respected
 (I looked at Lough Gara and see that the tracing has followed the new lake
 level). The GIS townland layer I have used before has kept the original
 townland size and not changed the outline to match the 'new' lake level.

 I'd appreciate advice on this,


 Killian Driscoll
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 Département d'anthropologie
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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Query on tracing townlands and dealing with changed lake levels and new boundaries

[Dave Corley]

I read that thread, I figured there was something about it before, just
couldn't recall.

If I'm honest, I think my opinion has changed from the one I originally
stated in that thread on the basis that townland boundaries are changed
through statutory instruments only (as far as I am aware). I'd welcome
being corrected though especially in the context of what was mentioned in
that previous thread with regards to how boundaries are treated where there
is coastal erosion etc.

It could well be that there's a set way of handling all these variations
and we're meeting all of them presently or might need to modify some things
a little.

Would the smoothened boundary data from the CSO site give any indication?

Dave

On Fri, May 15, 2015 at 9:45 PM, moltonel 3x Combo molto...@gmail.com
wrote:

 On 15/05/2015, Donal Diamond donal.diam...@gmail.com wrote:
  There's an earlier thread on topic here where conflicting advice was
 given
  ;-)
 
 
 https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-ie/2014-October/000741.html
 
  So looks like it is worthwhile opening up the discussion where we can all
  agree on a common approach.

 I don't see many conflicts of opinion in that thread :
 * Brian was following the GSGS boundary but started the thread for enquiry
 * Conor suggested following the new shoreline instead
 * Dacor agreed to follow the new shoreline, based on IRC discussion
 * No reply from brian, I assume he followed Conor and Dacor's answers

 As for myself, before reviewing that old thread, the same follow the
 new shoreline principle was the one that appealed me most (don't like
 the idea of land that doesn't belong to a townland)..

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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Congratulations Stephen on 4, 021 townlands mapped !!

[Dave Corley]

Wow, and I thought I was doing great coming up to 1,000 lol

Nice work Stephen and others.
On 14 May 2015 23:07, Killyfole and District Development Association 
webmas...@killyfole.org.uk wrote:

 Hi folks,

 Just wanted to congratulate Stephen_Co_Antrim on hitting the 4,000+
 townlands mark, that’s quite the achievement!  Well done and keep her lit!

 http://www.townlands.ie/mappers/

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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Import rectified image from mapwarper to josm

[Dave Corley]

Hi Killian,

I'm going to assume that you are talking about a rectified sheet for
townland mapping.

If so, once you rectify and crop it should show up in josm through the
Ireland 3906 imagery layer.

Shout if it's not working for you and one of us will take a look

Dave
On 13 May 2015 01:07, Killian Driscoll killiandrisc...@gmail.com wrote:

 I'm trying to import a rectified image from mapwarper to josm. I found the
 'add rectified image' option on josm, and used the mapwarper option with
 this http://mapwarper.net/maps/5634' as the option to put in the
 url/image
 id box. Didn't work - what do I need to do?

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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Map sheets request

[Dave Corley]

Hi Stephen,

There are sheets from the Bodleian library that are available as
replacements for sheets Trinity supplemented their won collection with
which came from GSI (Geological Survey Ireland). I took a look at your
sheet and it looks like one of the GSI ones alright (black and white as
opposed to grayscale) so it should be included in the batch of
replacements.

Dave

On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 12:04 PM, Stephen Roulston srouls...@me.com wrote:

 Hi,

 Could I ask for the remaining sheets from 26-39, please. I think SE is the
 only one up at present.

 Also, I rectified 26-41 NW Limavady some time ago. It is very high
 contrast and difficult to make out the downland boundaries so I have done
 very little with it - do I remember an email from some time ago suggesting
 that there might be a better scan available? If so, could you upload that,
 please?

 Many thanks,

 Stephen
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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] splitting ways/joining nodes

[Dave Corley]

The easiest way, navigate to the same spot on the OSM map, and copy the URL

E.g. http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=19/53.34868/-6.25321

On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 1:53 PM, Caroline Lewis carolinele...@eircom.net
wrote:

 i suspect it could do with a good bit of checking ;)
 how do i send a link?
 ta
 c
  On 14 Apr 2015, at 12:45, Donal Diamond donal.diam...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Can you give us a link so we can check?
 
  D
 
  On 14 April 2015 at 11:43, Caroline Lewis carolinele...@eircom.net
 wrote:
 
  I fixed it 
 
  On 14 Apr 2015, at 12:41, Caroline Lewis carolinele...@eircom.net
  wrote:
 
  Hi all
  I am having trouble with a townland boundary - one section is coast and
  the other is an adjacent downland boundary but i can’t get the ends to
 join
  up where the coast section meets the t.boundary . it has ended up with
 two
  nodes and i am not sure how to deal with this - i have looked on the
 wiki
  but am still at a loss
  any help gratefully received
  thanks
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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Talk-ie Digest, Vol 70, Issue 9

[Dave Corley]

Hi Rachel,

In josm, on the top menu, go to imagery menu and you want the 3906 layer.
Its British War Office 3906 or something like that.

Dave
On 29 Mar 2015 13:12, Rachel Murphy rachel.harwood.mur...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Hi everyone,

 A basic question but grateful for any assistance!  I've followed the flow
 chart on the wiki, and identified the map I wanted to digitise in mapcraft,
 where the owner is haribo. The map is http://mapwarper.net/maps/1924
 also IRL-GSGS-3906-17-17-NE-Cloghjordan.tif.


 When I follow the link in mapwarper I can see that the map has been
 cropped, georeferenced with 30 green and blue points and aligns to osm. The
 history shows it was last worked on in December 2014.

 My understanding is that because the work has been completed in mapwarper,
 I can go to josm and just start tracing townland boundaries if these
 haven't been done already. What I'm not sure about is how I add the map
 layer into josm and I couldn't find the instructions for this in the
 videos.  I'm sure it's a simple step but would be grateful if someone could
 let me know how do it correctly or point me in the direction of the
 instructions.  I have installed the townland boundary settings in josm
 already so should be good to go after that.

 Many thanks,

 Rachel

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  Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2015 20:17:57 +
  From: Dave Foley daf...@outlook.ie
  To: Discussion of OpenStreetMap in Ireland talk-ie@openstreetmap.org
  Subject: Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Irish boundaries map layer updates
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  Great work Donal, that's really useful for checking mistakes with the
  boundaries.
 
  Dafo
 
   Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2015 22:53:43 +
   From: donal.diam...@gmail.com
   To: talk-ie@openstreetmap.org
   Subject: [OSM-talk-ie] Irish boundaries map layer updates
  
   The map layers showing Irish boundaries is now updated every 15
 minutes.
  
   This includes county/barony/civil parish/ed and townlands.
  
   The map server starts updates at 05/20/35/50 minutes past the hour and
   should have all Irish edits up to 00/15/30/45 minutes past
 respectively.
   Updates should take about 2 minutes.
  
   I also updated the townland layer to show area in fractional acres from
   zoom 14 onwards. This may help you compare the acreage value shown on
 the
   GSGS3906 maps to help spot obvious errors.
  
   For example, I picked a spot at random below and you can see that there
  are
   a few areas that have the wrong acreage due to some townlands being
  missed:
  
  
 
 http://maps.openstreetmap.ie/oocmaps.html?zoom=15lat=53.71215lon=-6.91047layers=000B0TTFFF
  
   eg Barfordstown is reported as 482 acres as we actually included  two
   townlands Barfordstown 283 acres and Boolies 198 acres. There's a
 similar
   issue with Calliaghstown nearby.
  
   When comparing fractional acres and  ARP (acres,roods, perches) on the
  map,
   bear in mind that:
   1 acre = 4 roods
   1 rood = 40 perches
  
   You'll also notice a small difference in the acreage size reported by
   townlands.ie and the map layer. That is due to the map layer
  transforming
   to Irish Grid when calculating the area to get a slightly more accurate
   calculation. Townlands.ie has to do a lot more analysis so uses a
  different
   spatial reference system.
  
   Anyway hope it helps.
  
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  Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2015 20:21:24 +
  From: Dave Corley davecor...@gmail.com
  To: Discussion of Open Streetmap in Ireland
  talk-ie@openstreetmap.org
  Subject: Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Irish boundaries map layer updates
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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Townland mapping, time for another update I think

[Dave Corley]

Hi Michael,

As Donal uploaded sheets to Mapwarper I added links to Mapcraft however I
am behind adding links that's why you don't see a link from Mapcraft. You
can add this link yourself, many people have.

As for not having much to rectify against, I've come up against this too.
The only solution is to map some features against which you can rectify.

In Mapcraft, when you click on the tile you want, you will see a remote
button with Josm open. This will open only this area of OSM data in Josm.

Dave
On 28 Mar 2015 17:02, Michael Larkin larki...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi All

 Having difficulty warping 14/15 SW,requested  on 19th March

  the link given in response to my request for this is




 http://mapwarper.net/maps?field=titlequery=IRL-GSGS-3906-14-15show_warped=0


 The OSM layer given on this page seriously lacks detail  which is widely
 available on other layers  and  this makes accurate rectifying difficult

 The cropping and rectifying I have done only show on this website   and not
 elsewhere , nothing shows up on Mapcraft

 As is clearly obvious I am low tech and not a very skilled mapper  and new
 to Townlands  but hope I can contribute .



 Problem - the Instruction Video indicates access through Mapcraft



 Help welcome



 Skralm




 On 19 March 2015 at 21:21, Donal Diamond donal.diam...@gmail.com wrote:

  On 19 March 2015 at 19:37, Michael Larkin larki...@gmail.com wrote:
 
   great progress
   Could I have 14/15 SW uploaded Please to start Limerick
  
 
  Uploaded
 
 
 
 http://mapwarper.net/maps?field=titlequery=IRL-GSGS-3906-14-15show_warped=0
 
  Best to stick to rural areas first - mapping the City area will be hard.
 
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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Irish boundaries map layer updates

[Dave Corley]

Completely agree, this is fantastic

Can I ask, is it possible to make all layers appear on the same zoom
levels, e.g. The cp's can't be viewed when zoomed out far enough to see the
whole island.
On 27 Mar 2015 20:19, Dave Foley daf...@outlook.ie wrote:

 Great work Donal, that's really useful for checking mistakes with the
 boundaries.

 Dafo

  Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2015 22:53:43 +
  From: donal.diam...@gmail.com
  To: talk-ie@openstreetmap.org
  Subject: [OSM-talk-ie] Irish boundaries map layer updates
 
  The map layers showing Irish boundaries is now updated every 15 minutes.
 
  This includes county/barony/civil parish/ed and townlands.
 
  The map server starts updates at 05/20/35/50 minutes past the hour and
  should have all Irish edits up to 00/15/30/45 minutes past respectively.
  Updates should take about 2 minutes.
 
  I also updated the townland layer to show area in fractional acres from
  zoom 14 onwards. This may help you compare the acreage value shown on the
  GSGS3906 maps to help spot obvious errors.
 
  For example, I picked a spot at random below and you can see that there
 are
  a few areas that have the wrong acreage due to some townlands being
 missed:
 
 
 http://maps.openstreetmap.ie/oocmaps.html?zoom=15lat=53.71215lon=-6.91047layers=000B0TTFFF
 
  eg Barfordstown is reported as 482 acres as we actually included  two
  townlands Barfordstown 283 acres and Boolies 198 acres. There's a similar
  issue with Calliaghstown nearby.
 
  When comparing fractional acres and  ARP (acres,roods, perches) on the
 map,
  bear in mind that:
  1 acre = 4 roods
  1 rood = 40 perches
 
  You'll also notice a small difference in the acreage size reported by
  townlands.ie and the map layer. That is due to the map layer
 transforming
  to Irish Grid when calculating the area to get a slightly more accurate
  calculation. Townlands.ie has to do a lot more analysis so uses a
 different
  spatial reference system.
 
  Anyway hope it helps.
 
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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Irish boundaries map layer updates

[Dave Corley]

That was quick!

Thanks Donal

On Fri, Mar 27, 2015 at 8:47 PM, Donal Diamond donal.diam...@gmail.com wrote:
 All boundaries should start appearing at zoom 7 now.

 Also changed the townland map layer to show  ARP rather than fractional
 acres.

 Hope this helps...

 D

 On 27 March 2015 at 20:21, Dave Corley davecor...@gmail.com wrote:

 Completely agree, this is fantastic

 Can I ask, is it possible to make all layers appear on the same zoom
 levels, e.g. The cp's can't be viewed when zoomed out far enough to see the
 whole island.
 On 27 Mar 2015 20:19, Dave Foley daf...@outlook.ie wrote:

  Great work Donal, that's really useful for checking mistakes with the
  boundaries.
 
  Dafo
 
   Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2015 22:53:43 +
   From: donal.diam...@gmail.com
   To: talk-ie@openstreetmap.org
   Subject: [OSM-talk-ie] Irish boundaries map layer updates
  
   The map layers showing Irish boundaries is now updated every 15
 minutes.
  
   This includes county/barony/civil parish/ed and townlands.
  
   The map server starts updates at 05/20/35/50 minutes past the hour and
   should have all Irish edits up to 00/15/30/45 minutes past
 respectively.
   Updates should take about 2 minutes.
  
   I also updated the townland layer to show area in fractional acres from
   zoom 14 onwards. This may help you compare the acreage value shown on
 the
   GSGS3906 maps to help spot obvious errors.
  
   For example, I picked a spot at random below and you can see that there
  are
   a few areas that have the wrong acreage due to some townlands being
  missed:
  
  
 
 http://maps.openstreetmap.ie/oocmaps.html?zoom=15lat=53.71215lon=-6.91047layers=000B0TTFFF
  
   eg Barfordstown is reported as 482 acres as we actually included  two
   townlands Barfordstown 283 acres and Boolies 198 acres. There's a
 similar
   issue with Calliaghstown nearby.
  
   When comparing fractional acres and  ARP (acres,roods, perches) on the
  map,
   bear in mind that:
   1 acre = 4 roods
   1 rood = 40 perches
  
   You'll also notice a small difference in the acreage size reported by
   townlands.ie and the map layer. That is due to the map layer
  transforming
   to Irish Grid when calculating the area to get a slightly more accurate
   calculation. Townlands.ie has to do a lot more analysis so uses a
  different
   spatial reference system.
  
   Anyway hope it helps.
  
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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Looking for Maynooth Mappers

[Dave Corley]

Tracey,

On a side note, you can also use the following site to see who has
edited OSM in Maynooth recently. You are welcome to message any of
these people through the OSM site. They may not be on the mailing list
so its impossible to know if they would have gotten your email

http://resultmaps.neis-one.org/oooc?zoom=13lat=53.38172lon=-6.57544layers=B00TFT

From looking at it, there are about 20 people who have Maynooth as
their primary editing area however it looks like only 1 has been
active in the last few months

Dave

On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 7:05 PM, Dave Corley davecor...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Tracey,

 I'm heading up to Leixlip this Sat (tomorrow) so I could swing by
 Maynooth and meet up to go through what you need to know and how to do
 what you want if there are no other mappers on the ground there.

 Dave

 On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 6:39 PM, Tracey P. Lauriault tlaur...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 Greetings OSM folks,

 i am working on a project with tidy towns, green campus and student union
 on a number of things.  One of the Items is to produce a couple of layers
 with the location of maynooth bins, the location of bike racks, and
 eventually the location of waste hot spots in order to lobby for better
 locations and more bins, to get bike racks in the right place and more of
 them, and to inform a waste reduction plan/ pride in town type of strategy.

 I would love to lear how to do this and to work with a few others to
 populate some maps.  i live in Maynooth and can find my way to any pub or
 cafe at anytime to meet up and talk more bout this.

 If anyone is interested let me know.  i am around this weekend.

 Cheers
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[OSM-talk-ie] Open Data Licencing in Ireland - Important for OSM in Ireland

[Dave Corley]

Hi everyone,

I wanted to draw your attention to a release from the Dept. of Public
Enterprise  Reform [1] on Feb 12th in which the Minister, Brendan
Howlin, launched a policy paper looking for feedback regarding the
type of licence to be applied in the future to data released by the
Irish Govt. through data.gov.ie [2].

In the release, the main information you need is contained in the
policy paper (word document) [3]. In it, the case is made for various
different licence options.

I would strongly encourage everyone on this list to take 10-15 minutes
to have a read through the policy document [3] and to give their views
on the licence options listed. The closing date for submissions is
18th March 2015 so you have a bit of time, please do give this the
time it deserves and send a mail to [4].

Why is this important to OpenStreetMap?

The irish govt. has signed up to the OGP (Open Government Partnership)
and has committed to releasing large swathes of govt. data under open
licences to allow it to be used by anyone. This is still in its early
stages but will become more important over the next year or two as
more elements are locked down. In the OpenStreetMap context, it is
vital that the right licence is chosen to allow us to even consider
using any data that might be opened up. The policy document swings
between either going the PD (Public domain) route where the govt.
relinquishes all rights and its basically a free-for-all with the data
to alternatively going down the CC-BY route, where all that is
required is attribution.

Either option is compatible with OSM and will allow us to make use of
any data released.

Why is this important to everyone in general?

One additional option listed is Share-Alike (CC-BY-SA) licencing which
will not be compatible with OSM licencing. If you are making a
submission, I would ask that you call out the lack of suitability of
any licence that requires share-alike as it will suit very few data
consumers and will limit the data usage from academics, commercial
entities, OSM etc. About the only group that would benefit from a
CC-BY-SA licence is Wikipedia, but that is about all.

Once the licence is chosen, if the wrong one is chosen, it will take a
herculean effort to get it changed and would take several years so
this is the point at which you want to make your voice heard regarding
this issue.

Thanks,
Dave

1 - 
http://www.per.gov.ie/minister-howlin-launches-open-data-licences-paper-for-public-consultation-at-public-service-seminar/
2 - http://data.gov.ie/
3 - 
http://per.gov.ie/wp-content/uploads/Open-Data-Licence-Consultation-Paper-February-2015.docx
4 - opend...@per.gov.ie

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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Tag for lay by

[Dave Corley]

Passing place might be the most suitable if that's the most likely usage.
Do you have a link to the location?
On 25 Feb 2015 22:23, Caroline Lewis carolinele...@eircom.net wrote:

 HI - what tag should be used for a lay-by - i have used passing place but
 not sure if that is correct - and lay-by maybe a bit grand for what looks
 like the old road which was left as a bit of a pull- in
 and there seems to be no tag for a lay-by ...
 thanks
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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] upload problem

[Dave Corley]

Hi Caroline,

Can you give a bit more detail.

What editor are you using? What square are you referring to? Is this
something in the HOT Tasking Manager? What's your OSM username?

These bits will dictate the answer to your issue

Dave
On 24 Feb 2015 21:59, Caroline Lewis carolinele...@eircom.net wrote:

 Hi - i am editing a square and everything was going fine but today i get
 an error message saying that upload failed as server has a more recent
 version of a way, node or relation
 not sure what to do - should i synch entire dataset - i tried to synch
 just the way in question but it ended up producing an error and turned a
 waterway into a lot of single nodes which i have redone but now have the
 same problem
 and does this mean someone else is also editing this square?
 what should i do???
 thanks
 c
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