Re: [OSM-talk] SOTM-US: directions please
Julio Costa Zambelli writes: Another word of advice/tip for NYC Subway first timers, Another tip/quirk, particularly on weekends: some trains don't stop at some stations. Not so terrible if you're *at* the station. Not good if you're trying to get TO the station. Just keep your eye open for stations with a gray mark on them. -- --my blog is athttp://blog.russnelson.com Crynwr supports open source software 521 Pleasant Valley Rd. | +1 315-600-8815 Potsdam, NY 13676-3213 | Sheepdog ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] comment taguer des panneaux biche (dot com) / animaux sauvages
Le 4 juin 2015 20:47, Tony Emery tony.em...@yahoo.fr a écrit : et pourquoi pas hazard=wild_animals et hazard=domestic_animal, en plus de traffic_sign=FR:A15b ? Plutôt que traffic_sign=FR:A15b, moi je pencherais plutôt sur traffic_sign:FR=A15b. Mais sinon OK pour hazard=*_animals Damouns ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] SeFaireConnaitre :(
Ce genre de manipulation directement dans OSM ne devrait pas avoir lieu: qu'ils utilisent leur propre base pour faire une prélocalisation, quitte à la vérifier et l'affiner dans un second temps, puis une fois cela fait il peuvent alors émettre le point (en ayant vérifié d'abord qu'il n'y a pas création de doublon). C'est leur méthode de travail qui n'est pas bonne puisqu'ils omettent le travail indispensable de préparation et de fusion/intégration. Bref on peut comprendre que s'ils ont de nombreux clients, ils utilisent d'abord leur base interne pour collecter les points à placer sur la carte et immédiatement pouvoir compléter leurs fiches clients, mais sans préparation, leur travail est vain et ils ne répondent pas à la demande de leur client qui est de placer les POIs de façon pérenne et correcte pour qu'OSM accepte ces données. Cette société compte beaucoup trop sur la bonne volonté (et le travail réalisé gratuitement pour eux) alors qu'ils sont payés par leurs clients et gagnent de l'argent que nous ne profitons pas du tout pour le projet. C'est une démarche égoïste, et parasitaire. Ca mériterait un bloquage administratif d'un mois (à renouveler) pour qu'enfin ils se mettent à la page et modifient leur façon de travailler (et en attendant ils ne pourront plus vendre à leur clients des solutions d'intégration de leurs POIs sur la carte collaborative, puisque cela ne sera pas fait pendant un mois (renouvelable). Les clients ne verront aucun changement à leur référencement sur OSM et pourront suspendre leur paiement ou arrêter d'utiliser leurs (mauvais) services. Cela les fera réfléchir. En attendant, en continuant comme ça, ils se font une sale réputation (des sociétés qui vendent des référencements de façon abusives sont nombreuses, ce ne sera pas la première à se faire éjecter (et poursuivre devant les tribunaux par leurs clients mécontents, faute de prestation effective et correcte conforme aux exigences et aux attentes de ce qu'ils sont sensés vendre, ou pour facturation excessive d'un service en fait inexistant car non conforme aux exigences collectives). Le 4 juin 2015 15:27, Yoann Cornec yoanncor...@gmail.com a écrit : Je trouve également des doublons et points placés un peu n'importe où : https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/31711287 https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/31715438 https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/3563669793 Il semblerait effectivement que les points sont replacés dans un second temps. Le 3 juin 2015 11:02, Stéphane Péneau stephane.pen...@wanadoo.fr a écrit : J'ai presque le même avis. On peut reprocher la procédure (plusieurs changeset pour un même point), mais pas le résultat, qui est bien meilleur que ce qu'ils ont fait dans le passé. Il y a du progrès, et donc, je suppose, un minimum d'écoute sur les retours de la communauté. Le gros souci est qu'ils sont muets. Stf Le 03/06/2015 10:51, Bruno Cortial a écrit : Bonjour, On peut dejà se faire une idée globale avec ce genre de requete. http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/9IN Si la question est de supprimer massivement les points du contributeur SeFaireConnaitre, je m'y oppose (et j'ai pas d'action là-dedans). Si son process est réellement automatisé, il ne faudra pas longtemps avant que les points repopent Je demanderai plutôt un blocage temporaire du compte afin qu'il réagisse... Bruno Le 3 juin 2015 09:48, Pierre-Yves Berrard pierre.yves.berr...@gmail.com a écrit : La difficulté est qu'il y a un changeset par POI, donc autant de reverts. 2015-06-03 9:34 GMT+02:00 Tony Emery tony.em...@yahoo.fr: Du coup, qui s'occupe du Revert ? - Tony EMERY Administrateur OpenStreetMap.fr Mandataire Grand Sud-Est Géomaticien chef de projets -- View this message in context: http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/SeFaireConnaitre-tp5846293p5846908.html Sent from the France mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr ___ Talk-fr mailing listTalk-fr@openstreetmap.orghttps://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk] SOTM-US: directions please
On 4 June 2015 at 16:38, Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk wrote: Ironic, given our subject of interest... I've searched online, but found no directions from JFK to the New Shool's 13th Street Residence, nor walking directions from there to the UN building. Could someone oblige, please? -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk https://www.openstreetmap.org/directions?engine=osrm_carroute=40.6429%2C-73.7794%3B40.7491%2C-73.9679#map=12/40.7002/-73.8734 ? -- Mike. @millomweb https://sites.google.com/site/millomweb/index/introduction - For all your info on Millom and South Copeland via *the area's premier website - * *currently unavailable due to ongoing harassment of me, my family, property pets* TCs https://sites.google.com/site/pmailkeey/e-mail ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] New Field Papers Site Live!
Hello OSM, The new Field Papers http://fieldpapers.org/ site has been live for over a week now, as it was successfully launched on the 28th of May. Thanks to the team at Stamen Designs http://stamen.com/ in conjunction with co-funding from the Hewlett Foundation http://www.hewlett.org/ through the Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team, the tool has been re-vamped to become stable and more international. Please read the release notes http://fieldpapers.tumblr.com/ for detailed information on the enhancements. Field Papers has been optimised for multiple languages, which include but are not limited to Dansk, Deutsch, English, Español, Français, Bahasa Indonesia, Italiano,日本語, کوردی, Nederlands, Polski, Português, Kiswahili, Tagalog and українська мова. Please contribute towards the internationalisation and translation of Field Papers by visiting the Transifex project https://www.transifex.com/projects/p/fieldpapers/ and joining the team of your desired language. If there is a langauge you would like to see added, please request one through Transifex. On behalf of Stamen Designs and the HOT OSM community, we would like to thank everyone for contributing to Field Papers and encourage your continued support in its development. Please keep using the new site and help us by logging any bugs as issues on the associated GitHub repository https://github.com/stamen/fieldpapers/issues, as well as feature enhancements you would like to see for future additions. Kind regards, Mhairi O'Hara -- Mhairi O'Hara Technical Project Manager Mobile: +62 822 4701 1475 Email: mhairi.oh...@hotosm.org twitter https://twitter.com/mataharimhairi | linkedin http://uk.linkedin.com/in/mhairiohara | facebook https://www.facebook.com/hotosm | website http://hotosm.org/ *Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team * *Using OpenStreetMap for Humanitarian Response Economic Development* ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] OSM is a right mess (was: Craigslist OpenStreetMap Rendering Issue)
On 4 June 2015 at 19:39, Lester Caine les...@lsces.co.uk wrote: On 04/06/15 16:04, Paweł Paprota wrote: Could you please move this discussion to the tagging list? While some elements being picked up on are simple 'tagging' questions, it is the general structure we are discussing which in my book is the whole point of OSM. I think there is still room to discuss the overall framework of how the layers of tagging evolve? -- Lester Caine - G8HFL - Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page=contact L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http://lsces.co.uk EnquirySolve - http://enquirysolve.com/ Model Engineers Digital Workshop - http://medw.co.uk Rainbow Digital Media - http://rainbowdigitalmedia.co.uk Surely all OSM sub-discussion have a 'right' to be heard in the general OSM list and tagging is quite key to the whole project. It is perhaps a shame that these issues haven't been bashed out years ago - well they might have but if newcomers continue to question the logic there's clearly an issue that needs addressing. -- Mike. @millomweb https://sites.google.com/site/millomweb/index/introduction - For all your info on Millom and South Copeland via *the area's premier website - * *currently unavailable due to ongoing harassment of me, my family, property pets* TCs https://sites.google.com/site/pmailkeey/e-mail ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [Talk-it] Civici senza addr:street
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Il 04/06/2015 21:15, Federico Cortese ha scritto: Molto utile questo OSM inspector, non lo conoscevo! Si scoprono tante cose, perfino un civico in mezzo al Mediterraneo :) http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/307195483 e c'è pure una nota Do not move! Che significherà? Fai sapere a xybot dell'errore, wolfsburg non è nel mediterraneo. - -- sip:alebar...@ekiga.net -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2 iQEcBAEBCAAGBQJVcM0dAAoJEA/Z4QLlYWVuIucIALi/PFMgHb8lImbEWfspSlEX ZgNgVbenZ6s3AF8JFeyDYufy376wA7vFoAoqB+Mjy6viMcVUrYa1bI4rEz3RZ7NC rco2fYBafOhQkVxGmdbYibYd/rtuhF1hXWdhcjZdqmxNhPw3NoMQ8yeU8Y+6mw2r t2eZSOil+WT5Aa4XAd2E0SKub19W6AdPqdMV0E3Y2jxmaMJhjgcvNg4wyMbWj2Vb a5q1jsTtrAFdTZfAQUr2YKPR4jYi/I93pdoRbZJDjm063AVF4HTcJI9DGddGHD0L OrwR7D4iI98VUuRzjjXg/6xhoABvZ76Hona+3H3iOskTPawpMdvtW8yWMCQh0bA= =rYgg -END PGP SIGNATURE- 0xE561656E.asc Description: application/pgp-keys 0xE561656E.asc.sig Description: PGP signature attachment: ale_barbio.vcf___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [OSM-talk] SOTM-US: directions please
On 4 June 2015 at 21:20, Julio Costa Zambelli julio.co...@openstreetmap.cl wrote: Knowing ... which train is the local and the express in any given line How can you tell? -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [Talk-co] Cooperación con La Federación de Cafeteros de Colombia.
El 4 de junio de 2015, 17:59, hyan...@gmail.com hyan...@gmail.com escribió: El 4 de junio de 2015, 17:41, Fredy Rivera fredyriv...@gmail.com escribió: 2015-06-04 17:38 GMT-05:00 Artesano arttes...@gmail.com: Hola, yo tengo la información en una USB pesa 16GB, esta noche la estare subiendo desde la conexion de mi casa (4MB) a un drive, y mañana intentaré en MinTIC buscar una conexion de alta veolocidad. Luego de que tengamos la info pre-procesada la serviremos en un TMS o WMS para calcarla, ya que los términos de la licencia no nos permiten distribuir la imagen en raw. Excelente! He hecho la solicitud de colaboración al Activation Working Group (AWG) del HOT para servir las imágenes una vez esté disponibles. Saludos y éxitos, Humberto Yances Respuesta rápida, tenemos disponibles los servidores en Francia, detalles en el chat de coordinación. ___ Talk-co mailing list Talk-co@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-co
Re: [Talk-co] Cooperación con La Federación de Cafeteros de Colombia.
Hola, yo tengo la información en una USB pesa 16GB, esta noche la estare subiendo desde la conexion de mi casa (4MB) a un drive, y mañana intentaré en MinTIC buscar una conexion de alta veolocidad. El día 4 de junio de 2015, 17:27, Fernando C. T. kl3...@gmail.com escribió: Hola, Y como lo hacemos? A partir de cuando esta disponible el WMS para empezar. ? Saludos Enviado desde mi calculadora análoga. El jun 4, 2015 4:20 PM, Fredy Rivera fredyriv...@gmail.com escribió: Maperos todos, Hemos logrado un importante acuerdo Con la Federación Nacional de Cafeteros de Colombia por medio de su Sistema de Información del Café (SICA) en el cual permiten la vectorización manual para OpenStreetMap de sus aerofotografías del municipio de Salgar las cuales se encuentra a una resolución espacial de 20cm. Esté hito ha sido posible gracias a la suma de voluntades y es importante agradecer a OCHA y #BrigadaDigital por el respaldo que hizo posible este acuerdo. Las imágenes estarán disponibles durante la atención de la presente crisis en un WMS y esperamos contar con el apoyo de ustedes para la vectorización de las mismas. Este es un pequeño paso para un mapero, pero un gran salto para nuestro mapa ya que abre la puerta para disponer de la información geográfica que las instituciones poseen y usarla en casos de desastre. Esperamos que esta puerta permanezca abierta y poder contar con estas instituciones en los momentos en que el país mas lo necesita. Salu2 Humano. -- ## |___|__\___ | _ | |_ | } (_) (_) Twitter: @fredy_rivera Phone USA: (347) 688-4473 Mobil telephone: +57 3044886255 ___ Talk-co mailing list Talk-co@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-co ___ Talk-co mailing list Talk-co@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-co -- Juan Carlos Pachón Twitter @Arttesano http://arttesano.com 57-1-3102694942 Skype : arttesano ___ Talk-co mailing list Talk-co@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-co
[Talk-us] Fwd: Re: National Forest nature_reserve?
Steve, Interesting discussion. But, I have one question. After all that, how do I code a national forest? Charlotte Delivered-To: techl...@techlady.com Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2015 18:00:27 -0700 To: Mike Thompson miketh...@gmail.com, Elliott Plack elliott.pl...@gmail.com From: stevea stevea...@softworkers.com Cc: talk-us@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-us] National Forest nature_reserve? X-BeenThere: talk-us@openstreetmap.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.16 List-Id: OpenStreetMap USA talk-us.openstreetmap.org List-Unsubscribe: https://lists.openstreetmap.org/options/talk-us, mailto:talk-us-requ...@openstreetmap.org?subject=unsubscribe List-Archive: http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-us/ List-Post: mailto:talk-us@openstreetmap.org List-Help: mailto:talk-us-requ...@openstreetmap.org?subject=help List-Subscribe: https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us, mailto:talk-us-requ...@openstreetmap.org?subject=subscribe X-RR-Connecting-IP: 107.14.168.7:25 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.1 cv=a8O+9CiF c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=PSREjz6f8YchurqagD8nYg==:117 a=CRRwbcOFI+X/mpt5jVcafw==:17 a=ayC55rCo:8 a=0oj8HZZGiqAA:10 a=BLceEmwcHowA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=xqWC_Br6kY4A:10 a=Eor1iV6w:8 a=TZb1taSU:8 a=595fbENk:8 a=oTtuw1C_:8 a=lyYuGu4CHa5PaZGX25icmyaRxzw=:19 a=XAFQembCKUMA:10 a=P426Sab11vEsAsaxPfgA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 On not-so-long-ago USFS polygons, I tagged BOTH boundary=protected_area, leaving older landuse=forest and leisure=nature_reserve tags as they are. When protected Wilderness, on initial creation, my tagging soups up to reflect that Wilderness/Forest distinction: a protect_class 6 and a 1b are distinct. Leaving existing tagging alone seems best unless it is clear a newer method is a better method, as now extant semantics can be easily lost. OSM editors are good hearted, wishing to improve as we edit. I go along with new tagging schema as I learn them and become smarter at using them, as we should. Wholesale removal of landuse or leisure tags? Well, now slow down. I don't think I heard THAT. Something about old and new styles are out there, yes, I agree. So, it is historical and it is emerging. I've been around in OSM to see it happen and participate in it over the years. Older tags getting deprecated might speed up that very decay cycle (even as I hit Send). Yet, leaving them (abandoned railroads anybody? no scratch that as rhetorical) largely as tagged now satisfies a current need. Co-existence and peace through conversation, what do you know?! (Elliott Plack says we see both, I agree). We have a decent early-21st-century fix on more than a few USFS boundaries with landuse and leisure tags. I see no reason to go out of our way to remove those tags (in favor of protect_class tag) as they co-exist just fine. Sure, protect_class is a fine way to mean a certain semantic. Yet, too, this is a forest boundary. What we (the USA, OSM's wiki...) say a forest is, after all. That has a certain standing to remain as is: these are forests. Well, as of 3.6 years ago, maybe. We get smarter as we get older, right?! SteveA California ___ Talk-us mailing list mailto:Talk-us@openstreetmap.orgTalk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us Charlotte Wolter 927 18th Street Suite A Santa Monica, California 90403 +1-310-597-4040 techl...@techlady.com Skype: thetechlady ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Etrex Legend hcx - still the best in price range
On Thu, 2015-06-04 at 21:51 +0100, Iain Simpson wrote: Hi everyone My trusty Legend hcx has just stopped working - Rubber protection band loose and sticky (usual etrex problem) and not powering up. I'm contacting Garmin for repair - they've been good in the past ! But if I need to replace it what would you recommend ? How does the Etrex 30 perform ? I have an Etrex 20, which I have had for nearly 2 years. A great little device, would certainly recommend it. The Etrex 30 is the same, but with an barometric altimeter, not convinced by the value of this as a walker/mapper. Phil (trigpoint) ___ Talk-gb-westmidlands mailing list Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb-westmidlands
[Talk-co] Cooperación con La Federación de Cafeteros de Colombia.
Maperos todos, Hemos logrado un importante acuerdo Con la Federación Nacional de Cafeteros de Colombia por medio de su Sistema de Información del Café (SICA) en el cual permiten la vectorización manual para OpenStreetMap de sus aerofotografías del municipio de Salgar las cuales se encuentra a una resolución espacial de 20cm. Esté hito ha sido posible gracias a la suma de voluntades y es importante agradecer a OCHA y #BrigadaDigital por el respaldo que hizo posible este acuerdo. Las imágenes estarán disponibles durante la atención de la presente crisis en un WMS y esperamos contar con el apoyo de ustedes para la vectorización de las mismas. Este es un pequeño paso para un mapero, pero un gran salto para nuestro mapa ya que abre la puerta para disponer de la información geográfica que las instituciones poseen y usarla en casos de desastre. Esperamos que esta puerta permanezca abierta y poder contar con estas instituciones en los momentos en que el país mas lo necesita. Salu2 Humano. -- ## |___|__\___ | _ | |_ | } (_) (_) Twitter: @fredy_rivera Phone USA: (347) 688-4473 Mobil telephone: +57 3044886255 ___ Talk-co mailing list Talk-co@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-co
Re: [OSM-talk] SOTM-US: directions please
Andy, I am a frugal traveller so I have always used the subway to/from JFK. From any Airport terminal you take the Airtrain to Howard Beach (NOT Jamaica), once there you only have A trains and you have to take one towards Manhattan. You get off the train in the 14th Street station (it should be a long trip, a little longer if its late night since the train will stop at every station at that time of the day). From the station you walk a few meters south to Jackson Square and then left (East) on West 13th Street (on the Starbucks according to our map: http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=18/40.73925/-74.00224) until you cross 7th Avenue. To get to the UN Headquarters probably the easiest way is to walk to the Union Square Station (three blocks away to the East) take the train 4 or 5 (Express) towards Bronx and get off the train in Grand Central 42nd Street station and walk a few blocks East (until you reach the river ;) If you combine http://web.mta.info/maps/submap.html and OSM it should be quite easy. I do it that way every time. Cheers, Julio Costa Zambelli Fundación OpenStreetMap Chile julio.co...@openstreetmap.cl http://www.openstreetmap.cl/ Cel: +56(9)89981083 On 4 June 2015 at 13:58, Nick Whitelegg nick.whitel...@solent.ac.uk wrote: Well I visited New York in 2004 and then the choice was either a shuttle bus (which drops you off somewhere near Grand Central) or the monorail to an A train subway station which would take you into Manhattan. Once you're in Manhattan I guess you can just use an OSM map ;-) Obviously things might have changed now... Nick From: Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk Sent: 04 June 2015 16:38 To: osmf-t...@openstreetmap.org Subject: [OSM-talk] SOTM-US: directions please Ironic, given our subject of interest... I've searched online, but found no directions from JFK to the New Shool's 13th Street Residence, nor walking directions from there to the UN building. Could someone oblige, please? -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] SOTM-US: directions please
On 4 June 2015 at 18:48, Julio Costa Zambelli julio.co...@openstreetmap.cl wrote: subway Brilliantly detailed; just what I was looking for. Thank you. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] comment taguer des panneaux biche (dot com) / animaux sauvages
et pourquoi pas hazard=wild_animals et hazard=domestic_animal, en plus de traffic_sign=FR:A15b ? Ça fait que 2 tags au lieu de 3 - Tony EMERY Administrateur OpenStreetMap.fr Mandataire Grand Sud-Est Géomaticien chef de projets -- View this message in context: http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/comment-taguer-des-panneaux-biche-dot-com-animaux-sauvages-tp5846720p5847133.html Sent from the France mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk-be] een mapping party in Gent
heb zeker interesse om wat te helpen als ik vrij ben. m 2015-06-04 9:16 GMT+02:00 joost schouppe joost.schou...@gmail.com: Hoi allen, Ik had al eens wat ideetjes gelanceerd in beperkte groep voor een mapping party in Gent. Heeft er iemand zin om daar mee in te vliegen? En zijn er mensen die een introductie JOSM willen komen geven of anderszins willen helpen? Ik zou het ergens in juli of augustus willen doen. Focus op POI's. * Motivatie: Waar we het verschil met Google Maps kunnen maken is bij de ondernemer, de hipster en de lokale overheid. Google is te traag voor de ondernemer met een nieuw project, zet de dingen pas online als ze niet meer hip zijn en heeft minder aandacht voor de gebieden die een lokale overheid net onder de aandacht wil brengen. In Gent ben ik zeker dat we wat steun zouden krijgen van overheidswege als we Bart Rosseau wat uitleg geven over het plan. En die zal wel contacten hebben bij mensen die alternatieve winkelstraten in de verf willen zetten. Die zouden kunnen helpen met promotie (het boekske van Gent?) en misschien wel een locatie voor pre- en post op straat gaan. Waarom het idee van een Map-my-Shop Party mij zo aanspreekt, is omdat het werkt op deze drie zwakten: - Openstreetmap is nog niet bekend genoeg. - Openstreetmap heeft te weinig POIs - Er doen véél te weinig vrouwen aan Openstreetmap Ik zou de promotie wat ludiek en ironisch sexistisch houden. Iets in de stijl van Mapping nerd zoekt vrouw om mee te gaan shoppen. Mannen enkel toegestaan mits ze een vrouw meenemen. * Als we dan toch bezig zijn: Wat betreft fietspaden of toegankelijkheid. De toegankelijkheid van stoepen en winkels lijkt mij absoluut iets dat dit een socialer kantje kan geven. En speciale aandacht voor de fietsinfrastructuur (een kaart die toont waar fietsers niet tegen de richting mogen, of waar de lastige kasseien liggen en de fietsenstallingen zijn) lijkt mij absoluut ook perfect te combineren met het thema. * Organisatorisch: Vóór het echte mappen: geen presentaties. Gewoon aan de mensen vragen smartphones mee te nemen, een aantal tools installeren, wat uitleg over papierwerk, en dan op de baan. Best in groepjes van twee of drie personen om zoveel mogelijk terrein te beslaan. Onderweg: * verdeel een flyer met basisinfo: wat is OSM, wie zijn deze zotten en waarom willen ze mij gratis helpen * verdeel een sticker om ergens in de gemapte winkel te zetten: iets als Tthis time you had to look for this place. Next time, just use OpenStreetMap * neem fiches mee om basisgegevens in te invullen * fieldnotes om het overzicht te houden * eventueel rechtstreeks toevoegen gegevens via Osmand? Mogelijk nog niet direct als POI maar als note. * onderweg mapillary streetview foto's maken (ware ideaal als we zo'n 360° camera te pakken zouden krijgen) Achteraf: * invoeren van de gegevens via verschillende editors * ervaren JOSM mappers nodig voor dingen als compexe openingsuren * Laat het resultaat zien, stel in het licht dat OSM niet gewoon een kaartje is, maar een doos Lego: - hoe ziet het eruit op sites als http://www.openlinkmap.org/ , http://openlovemap.de/ , http://thenextis.com/ (wifi, ATM) etc. - toelichting over indoor mapping, over tagging, POI kaarten op maat via umaps, over lokale data met wereldwijde community (en dus tools en zichtbaarheid) Groeten, Joost ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [OSM-talk] OSM is a right mess (was: Craigslist OpenStreetMap Rendering Issue)
On 04/06/15 16:04, Paweł Paprota wrote: Could you please move this discussion to the tagging list? While some elements being picked up on are simple 'tagging' questions, it is the general structure we are discussing which in my book is the whole point of OSM. I think there is still room to discuss the overall framework of how the layers of tagging evolve? -- Lester Caine - G8HFL - Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page=contact L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http://lsces.co.uk EnquirySolve - http://enquirysolve.com/ Model Engineers Digital Workshop - http://medw.co.uk Rainbow Digital Media - http://rainbowdigitalmedia.co.uk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk-be] een mapping party in Gent
Goed idee! Ik zal er zijn als ik kan en zoveel mogelijk helpen met de organisatie! Met vriendelijke groeten, Best regards, Ben Abelshausen ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [OSM-talk] SOTM-US: directions please
Well I visited New York in 2004 and then the choice was either a shuttle bus (which drops you off somewhere near Grand Central) or the monorail to an A train subway station which would take you into Manhattan. Once you're in Manhattan I guess you can just use an OSM map ;-) Obviously things might have changed now... Nick From: Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk Sent: 04 June 2015 16:38 To: osmf-t...@openstreetmap.org Subject: [OSM-talk] SOTM-US: directions please Ironic, given our subject of interest... I've searched online, but found no directions from JFK to the New Shool's 13th Street Residence, nor walking directions from there to the UN building. Could someone oblige, please? -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Import of Placename Database of Ireland
I can try to contact Pat McKay and Kay Muhr who used to work on the project under Mícheál, if that would be helpful. I knew others in Land and Property Services (formerly Ordnance Survey) who could have helped but, in the nature of Civil Servants, they have moved on. Sent from my iPhone On 4 Jun 2015, at 14:18, Killyfole and District Development Association webmas...@killyfole.org.uk wrote: From the material on their website they have some of the townlands for Co Fermanagh, however the locations are wrong. Is this something we could work with them to try and resolve? PlacenamesNI seem to be in the process of linking to Logainm and vice versa. In the what’s new section ( http://www.placenamesni.org/whatsnew.php ) they announce the creation of a two-way electronic link-up. I have tried to contact Professor Mícheál Ó Mainnín but have been unable to establish any kind of communication, I believe he is a very busy person. However, a few other people who have worked on the Placenames Project seem to be very open to the idea of working with OSM, especially the ability to display the map in Irish language. On Thursday 04 Jun 2015 13:27:34 Rory McCann wrote: Hi Stephen, Here's a quick map of what's in Logainm: http://imgur.com/RFOP30Q As you can see they have a little bit of data for the North, but it's nearly entirely Republic only. Alas. Maybe when we import it, we can give them a dump (in their format) of townlands (etc) for NI? Or if we please logain, then maybe Placenames NI might be encouraged to open some data? Rory On 04/06/15 00:04, Stephen Roulston wrote: Sounds really great Rory. Do you know if the Logainm database covers the North? Placenamesni has a fairly comprehensive, but incomplete coverage of the Irish names, but I don't know how easy it would be to access them. KDDA has great contacts in Placenamesni if required. Stephen ___ Talk-ie mailing list Talk-ie@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ie ___ Talk-ie mailing list Talk-ie@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ie
[OSM-talk] SOTM-US: directions please
Ironic, given our subject of interest... I've searched online, but found no directions from JFK to the New Shool's 13th Street Residence, nor walking directions from there to the UN building. Could someone oblige, please? -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [Talk-us] A note about bags and security at SOTM-US
Hi everyone, Thanks for the questions on backpacks at State of the Map US this weekend. We have to follow the standard UN security policies, which limit bags to those smaller than 14 wide x 13 high x 4 deep. We don't know how specifically these policies are followed in person, but to avoid any problems getting in on Saturday we recommend sticking to them as closely as you can. We also recommend giving their list of what's permitted a thorough read: http://visit.un.org/content/security. You can expect a process much like airport security when you get to the building. See you soon! Bonnie On Jun 4, 2015, at 9:31 AM, Richard Welty rwe...@averillpark.net wrote: On 6/4/15 2:03 AM, Toby Murray wrote: Well ok, I guess this is primarily targeted at anyone who was planning on bringing a backpack. I'm sure I can fit what I need for a day in a bag this size as well. But any normal backpack is going to be 16-18 inches tall and too large for the UN. This is what I have used at previous conferences because it's what I happen to have and I've seen plenty of others with backpacks as well so I thought it was worth a warning. And while my laptop bag IS on the large side, it is by no means an unreasonable size to grab as a carry-on for an airplane ride and expect to use at the conference once you get there. Again, I've certainly seen 16-18 briefcases and laptop bags at other conferences so it is worth double checking. i'd like some clarification on this as well. i have a rather standard sized shoulder bag for my laptop and it's 3 inches too wide. in fact, a lot of laptops are too big to fit the maximum sized bag listed. my macbook air is 13 wide, i will need to scramble to find a conforming 14 wide bag before tomorrow at lunch time. a 15 laptop would be problematic. richard -- rwe...@averillpark.net Averill Park Networking - GIS IT Consulting OpenStreetMap - PostgreSQL - Linux Java - Web Applications - Search ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [OSM-talk] OSM is a right mess
Am 04.06.2015 um 02:11 schrieb Warin 61sundow...@gmail.com: No. Landuse - a facility (what it gets used for) The governmental authority here says an area is for residential use .. They do that before there are any houses thus it is not just the area under a building. No ;-) You are referring to zoning, the planning of landuse, after approval becomes the prescription of landuse. In osm, the tag landuse describes the actual landuse, regardless of what should or could be at that place according to the law or planning. cheers Martin ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] OSM is a right mess
In urban areas, it is common to have mixed-use buildings as well, with retail or services on the ground floor and residential units on upper floors. -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. -- Martin Luther King, Jr. On June 3, 2015 7:13:39 PM Warin 61sundow...@gmail.com wrote: On 4/06/2015 9:48 AM, pmailkeey . wrote: A value of residential here seems to need a key to identify whether it relates to a building or landuse. However, you suggest building=residential as possibly being redundant. In fact, I'd turn this on its head and make landuse=residential (with the exception of moles) redundant. The only residential landuse is directly under a building but by using landuse=residential, such areas cover gardens and highways - which are clearly not residences. No. Landuse - a facility (what it gets used for) The governmental authority here says an area is for residential use .. They do that before there are any houses thus it is not just the area under a building. building - a physical item (what is there on the ground) A building that is used for residences has a particular set of features that distinguish it for other building types e.g. a mall. -- I use my garden! I go out there and read, email .. even do OSM ... in the garden. The street in front of my home gets used by the kids to play soccer, tennis ... The land use is 'residential' .. even in the garden. And the neighbours swimming pool. The house is also residential. I and my neighbours reside here - we use all of it. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[Talk-gb-westmidlands] Fwd: Mappa Mercia summer programme
Hi everyone - can you check diaries to make sure this OK for our meetup next month (too close to first Thurs so do this instead) -- Forwarded message -- From: Philip Barnes p...@trigpoint.me.uk Date: 10 May 2015 at 10:56 Subject: Re: Mappa Mercia summer programme To: Brian Prangle bpran...@gmail.com Hi Brian Does Saturday 4th July sound ok? Phil On Fri, 2015-05-08 at 19:17 +0100, Brian Prangle wrote: Hi Phil We've decided that Telford needs a Saturday meetup so we can get more mapping in for the long journey most of us will have to make. Can you suggest some dates (not August) that work for you? Regards Brian ___ Talk-gb-westmidlands mailing list Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb-westmidlands
Re: [OSM-talk] OSM is a right mess (was: Craigslist OpenStreetMap Rendering Issue)
Could you please move this discussion to the tagging list? On Thu, Jun 4, 2015, at 16:57, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: Am 04.06.2015 um 01:48 schrieb pmailkeey . pmailk...@googlemail.com: A value of residential here seems to need a key to identify whether it relates to a building or landuse. there is also highway=residential However, you suggest building=residential as possibly being redundant. In fact, I'd turn this on its head and make landuse=residential (with the exception of moles) redundant. building=residential is bad tagging IMHO as it adds only rough information not going beyond what landuse already tells, typically people will use more specific values like apartments, house / detached, villa etc (if they specify more than yes) I can't deny there are quite some of them nonetheless: http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/building#values The only residential landuse is directly under a building but by using landuse=residential, such areas cover gardens and highways - which are clearly not residences. I agree for highways but gardens, terraces, garages etc are normally part of the residence, even if you don't sleep there... Cheers Martin ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [Talk-us] A note about bags and security at SOTM-US
On 6/4/15 9:56 AM, Bonnie Bogle wrote: Hi everyone, Thanks for the questions on backpacks at State of the Map US this weekend. We have to follow the standard UN security policies, which limit bags to those smaller than 14 wide x 13 high x 4 deep. We don't know how specifically these policies are followed in person, but to avoid any problems getting in on Saturday we recommend sticking to them as closely as you can. this is smaller than a standard briefcase. any presenters who don't follow talk-us may be very surprised on saturday morning if this is enforced for conference attendees. i strongly recommend checking with the UN on this as it's pretty severe. as it is, i'm going to have to make an emergency run to staples tomorrow morning to see what they have in stock, and i'll have to buy two if my daughter's backpack doesn't pass muster. richard -- rwe...@averillpark.net Averill Park Networking - GIS IT Consulting OpenStreetMap - PostgreSQL - Linux Java - Web Applications - Search signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] comment taguer des panneaux biche (dot com) / animaux sauvages
Bonjour, Du moment que les panneaux ne sont pas sur la voie, ok. Ainsi +1 pour traffic_sign=FR:A15b sur le nœud du panneau. +1 aussi pour répercuter sur la section de voie des informations déduites des panneaux qui la bordent (ca ne peut pas être fait dans tous les cas, on a des panneaux de simple information qui ne qualifient pas le trajet). Enfin, je trouve que hazard:animal_crossing=wild ou hazard=wild_animal_crossing (l'un ou l'autre) sont plus parlant puisque faisant directement référence à un danger que wild_animal=yes. Cette clé pourrait aussi être utilisée sur la voie entre deux panneaux. A+ *François Lacombe* fl dot infosreseaux At gmail dot com www.infos-reseaux.com @InfosReseaux http://www.twitter.com/InfosReseaux Le 4 juin 2015 15:31, Florian LAINEZ winner...@free.fr a écrit : Je pense que vous avez tous les deux raison : -la référence du panneau exact est importante si on la connait : traffic_sign=FR:A15b -un tag plus générique est le bienvenu pour détailler hazard=wild_animals. D'où ma proposition d'utiliser* wild_animal=yes *et *domestic_animal=yes* en complément Est-ce que cela réconcilie tout le monde ? Le 4 juin 2015 15:22, JB jb...@mailoo.org a écrit : Mais je pense qu'un Australien aura plus de facilité à comprendre et traiter un hazard=wild_animals qu'un ref:panneau:EU=A15b… Et nous, on aura moins de mal à comprendre leur hazard=wild_animals que s'ils tagguent le ref du panneau à kangourou ? Le 04/06/2015 15:11, Tony Emery a écrit : Ce que je veux dire c'est que la référence A15b a peu de chance de correspondre avec un autre panneau que http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6a/France_road_sign_A15b.svg http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6a/France_road_sign_A15b.svg Donc la bête sera forcément la même si on cherche ce panneau A15b où que l'on soit dans le monde. ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr -- *Florian Lainez* @overflorian http://twitter.com/overflorian ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [Talk-dk] Ruteplanlægger
Et par efter min mening rigtig gode cykelruteplanlæggere er http://cycle.travel/map og http://www.bikemap.net/da/ Torsdag den 4. juni 2015 14:25:46 skrev John Plate: Hej Er der nogen, som kender en webbaseret (cykel-)ruteplanlægger baseret på OSM? Og som kan generere en en fil med ruten til en navigator. Der er flere, men de virker ikke så godt. John ___ Talk-dk mailing list Talk-dk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-dk ___ Talk-dk mailing list Talk-dk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-dk
Re: [Talk-us] Paved Shoulder Tag for US Highways
Larry, I think it's important to keep shoulders and bike lanes separate because they are governed by different rules. I'm assuming those rules are different state by state, but for example I would think that in many places it is illegal for motor vehicles to pass in a dedicated bike lane, whereas passing on the shoulder is permissible (under certain conditions only, of course). Similar differences probably exist for the rules regarding stopping and parking. My rule of thumb is: If there aren't any signs or pavement markings involving bikes, it's a shoulder, not a bike lane. Then it becomes important to tag attributes of the shoulder such as surface and width. Harald. On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 6:12 PM Larry-CalRoadRunner calroadrun...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Everyone, I would like to thank everyone for the quick response. I agree that the tag cycleway=shoulder is the correct tag to use, but for it to be effective, it must be used consistently. Otherwise anyone trying to create a cycle map for cyclists, will have a very confusing data. The type of Shoulders that cyclists need to know is Code (2 or 3) [image: xFigure 4.49 shows an example of a bituminous shoulder, which would be identified as Code 2 for this Data Item.] and Code 4 [image: Figure 4.50 shows an example of a stabilized shoulder, which would be identified as Code 4 for this Data Item.] Special Thank you to Thomas Roff for this link http://www.fhwa.dot.gov/policyinformation/hpms/fieldmanual/chapter4c.cfm I mentioned before that I added the tag cycleway=lane to the Silverado Trail, since the shoulder is marked with bike lane signs and painted bike lane signs and logos on the shoulder. I have ridden this road for years and I can remember when this was nothing but a highway with paved shoulders and nothing to indicate that it is a bike lane. I am going to include a link to my personal YouTube Channel, so that everyone can see what I am talking about. It starts on Trancas Rd. in Napa, Ca. No shoulder at first, then paved shoulder and finally the Silverado Trail with the bike lane signs and logo on the paved shoulder https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ek0M8wtGhSY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ek0M8wtGhSYindex=21list=PL5do4uwsHN3XRUuCuNPGfs6OX9_CF-j5F 4 minutes and 35 seconds For those of you that would like to see the entire bike ride, then click on this link to see all of the various road conditions encountered https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_lmxxZEb_jk This is a fast motion video of most of the total ride including Hwy 29 with paved shoulders. If you are not a bicycle rider this video will give you an idea of what it is to ride a bicycle in the US. This is typical of many of the conditions encountered, if you are a long distance cyclist. According to current practice this is tagged as cycleway=lane for the Silverado Trail. For part of Trancas Rd. The appropriate tag should be cycleway=shoulder just before arriving at the Silverado Trail. My question is does the Silverado Trail qualify as a true dedicated cycleway or is it just a highway with paved shoulders. Currently, I see on the current cycle maps that roads with paved shoulders are currently tag as cycleway=lane if they have the bike signs and logo. I also see roads that do not have any bike signs and logo also tagged with cycleway=lane According to the wiki tag most of the roads tagged as cycleway=lane, do not fall into the strict definition of a dedicated cycle lane. This is why I am asking for a published wiki tag describing roads with paved shoulders, so that everyone in the world will used the appropriate tag when mapping roads. Thank You, Larry-California RoadRunner ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] A note about bags and security at SOTM-US
Greetings all. I called the UN (at 212-963-4475 then 0, 1 ask for security) and asked for you all. They said that laptop bags and standard briefcases are fine, even if they're larger than 14. They said just* no suitcases or carry-on bags*. So, I think you will probably be fine with a lightweight laptop bag. Interestingly, they weren't aware of any conferences this weekend. Hopefully that gets communicated to them soon. :) Elliott On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 10:23 AM Richard Welty rwe...@averillpark.net wrote: On 6/4/15 10:09 AM, Richard Welty wrote: i strongly recommend checking with the UN on this as it's pretty severe. as it is, i'm going to have to make an emergency run to staples tomorrow morning to see what they have in stock, and i'll have to buy two if my daughter's backpack doesn't pass muster. richard ok, if this rule applies, it will be a disaster. a quick review of the staples website shows a tiny number of bags that might work (2 or 3), all of which are available online, 10 business days to ship. richard -- rwe...@averillpark.net Averill Park Networking - GIS IT Consulting OpenStreetMap - PostgreSQL - Linux Java - Web Applications - Search ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] A note about bags and security at SOTM-US
On 6/4/15 10:09 AM, Richard Welty wrote: i strongly recommend checking with the UN on this as it's pretty severe. as it is, i'm going to have to make an emergency run to staples tomorrow morning to see what they have in stock, and i'll have to buy two if my daughter's backpack doesn't pass muster. richard ok, if this rule applies, it will be a disaster. a quick review of the staples website shows a tiny number of bags that might work (2 or 3), all of which are available online, 10 business days to ship. richard -- rwe...@averillpark.net Averill Park Networking - GIS IT Consulting OpenStreetMap - PostgreSQL - Linux Java - Web Applications - Search signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [OSM-talk] OSM is a right mess
On 3 June 2015 at 07:00, Maarten Deen md...@xs4all.nl wrote: On 2015-06-03 02:04, pmailkeey . wrote: iD shows oneway=unknown if it's not set. If it's unknown, iD should not show oneway at all. I agree. In OSM if oneway=no then it's not oneway and the oneway tag should not appear at all. Here I don't agree. The only time oneway should appear is in the case of oneway=yes - and the '=yes' is superfluous. Some roads are implied oneway. E.g. junction=roundabout and highway=motorway both imply that the road is one-way only. If for some reason the object in case is not oneway, a oneway=no tag is very much needed. I agree that in every case where oneway=yes is not implied, oneway=no is superfluous (in a network design way), but that does not make oneway=no superfluous. There is also the occurence of oneway=-1 in case someone reverses the direction of a way. What should be done when the only possibility for oneway is either set or unset and the direction gets reversed? Should reversing be disallowed? Should you get a warning oneway street can not be reversed? Maarten Are the world of random renderers going to look for junction=roundabout and make the same oneway assumption ? Would it not be better for 'junction=roundabout' to cause a mechanical edit by adding the oneway tag - so that rather than saying =no, the tag could simply be removed ? What reason is there for reversing the way - as presumably all direction-dependent tags have + / - options ? Leads to the question as to why make oneway an exception to this rule - it seems most logical to have oneway as the direction as indicated rather than against. Them's my thoughts ! -- Mike. @millomweb https://sites.google.com/site/millomweb/index/introduction - For all your info on Millom and South Copeland via *the area's premier website - * *currently unavailable due to ongoing harassment of me, my family, property pets* TCs https://sites.google.com/site/pmailkeey/e-mail ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk-be] een mapping party in Gent
Ik ben ook geïnteresseerd, ik kom vaak in Gent. Nu heb ik het wel nog druk. Merk ook op dat studenten nu in de examenperiode zitten en dat ze in juli, augustus en de eerste helft van september zomervakantie hebben. Er zijn dan steeds veel minder studenten in Gent. Ik kan vragen aan de Universiteit Gent of we posters zouden mogen hangen op de prikborden; dat wordt nog gedaan voor allerlei dingen. Misschien mogen we zelfs een locatie gebruiken van hen. Het zou dan wel best met inschrijvingen zijn zodat we weten hoeveel volk er komt. Groeten Ruben Op 4 juni 2015 11:41 schreef Pieter Colpaert pieter.colpa...@okfn.org: Gezien Pieter-Jan van Open Knowledbe Belgium vanuit Gent werkt en ik ook in Gent woon, ben ik ook bereid te steunen met communicatie en evt. een locatie te zoeken. Als in juli, dan kunnen we dit samen laten vallen met een avond op open Summer of code: http://summerofcode.be. Dan heb je direct een extra publiek van 20 studenten, en de faciliteiten + drinks gefinancierd door oSoc :) Mvg, Pieter On 04-06-15 11:23, nico...@pettiaux.be wrote: Ik ben geinteresseerd voor zoo'n party tussen 1 augustus en 23 augustus of na 1 septembre. mvg Nicolas À jeu. juin 4 09:16:40 2015 GMT+0200, joost schouppe a écrit : Hoi allen, Ik had al eens wat ideetjes gelanceerd in beperkte groep voor een mapping party in Gent. Heeft er iemand zin om daar mee in te vliegen? En zijn er mensen die een introductie JOSM willen komen geven of anderszins willen helpen? Ik zou het ergens in juli of augustus willen doen. Focus op POI's. * Motivatie: Waar we het verschil met Google Maps kunnen maken is bij de ondernemer, de hipster en de lokale overheid. Google is te traag voor de ondernemer met een nieuw project, zet de dingen pas online als ze niet meer hip zijn en heeft minder aandacht voor de gebieden die een lokale overheid net onder de aandacht wil brengen. In Gent ben ik zeker dat we wat steun zouden krijgen van overheidswege als we Bart Rosseau wat uitleg geven over het plan. En die zal wel contacten hebben bij mensen die alternatieve winkelstraten in de verf willen zetten. Die zouden kunnen helpen met promotie (het boekske van Gent?) en misschien wel een locatie voor pre- en post op straat gaan. Waarom het idee van een Map-my-Shop Party mij zo aanspreekt, is omdat het werkt op deze drie zwakten: - Openstreetmap is nog niet bekend genoeg. - Openstreetmap heeft te weinig POIs - Er doen véél te weinig vrouwen aan Openstreetmap Ik zou de promotie wat ludiek en ironisch sexistisch houden. Iets in de stijl van Mapping nerd zoekt vrouw om mee te gaan shoppen. Mannen enkel toegestaan mits ze een vrouw meenemen. * Als we dan toch bezig zijn: Wat betreft fietspaden of toegankelijkheid. De toegankelijkheid van stoepen en winkels lijkt mij absoluut iets dat dit een socialer kantje kan geven. En speciale aandacht voor de fietsinfrastructuur (een kaart die toont waar fietsers niet tegen de richting mogen, of waar de lastige kasseien liggen en de fietsenstallingen zijn) lijkt mij absoluut ook perfect te combineren met het thema. * Organisatorisch: Vóór het echte mappen: geen presentaties. Gewoon aan de mensen vragen smartphones mee te nemen, een aantal tools installeren, wat uitleg over papierwerk, en dan op de baan. Best in groepjes van twee of drie personen om zoveel mogelijk terrein te beslaan. Onderweg: * verdeel een flyer met basisinfo: wat is OSM, wie zijn deze zotten en waarom willen ze mij gratis helpen * verdeel een sticker om ergens in de gemapte winkel te zetten: iets als Tthis time you had to look for this place. Next time, just use OpenStreetMap * neem fiches mee om basisgegevens in te invullen * fieldnotes om het overzicht te houden * eventueel rechtstreeks toevoegen gegevens via Osmand? Mogelijk nog niet direct als POI maar als note. * onderweg mapillary streetview foto's maken (ware ideaal als we zo'n 360° camera te pakken zouden krijgen) Achteraf: * invoeren van de gegevens via verschillende editors * ervaren JOSM mappers nodig voor dingen als compexe openingsuren * Laat het resultaat zien, stel in het licht dat OSM niet gewoon een kaartje is, maar een doos Lego: - hoe ziet het eruit op sites als http://www.openlinkmap.org/ , http://openlovemap.de/ , http://thenextis.com/ (wifi, ATM) etc. - toelichting over indoor mapping, over tagging, POI kaarten op maat via umaps, over lokale data met wereldwijde community (en dus tools en zichtbaarheid) Groeten, Joost -- +32 486 74 71 22 Open Knowledge Belgium http://okfn.be Open Transport community http://transport.okfn.org ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [OSM-talk] OSM is a right mess (was: Craigslist OpenStreetMap Rendering Issue)
Am 04.06.2015 um 01:48 schrieb pmailkeey . pmailk...@googlemail.com: A value of residential here seems to need a key to identify whether it relates to a building or landuse. there is also highway=residential However, you suggest building=residential as possibly being redundant. In fact, I'd turn this on its head and make landuse=residential (with the exception of moles) redundant. building=residential is bad tagging IMHO as it adds only rough information not going beyond what landuse already tells, typically people will use more specific values like apartments, house / detached, villa etc (if they specify more than yes) I can't deny there are quite some of them nonetheless: http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/building#values The only residential landuse is directly under a building but by using landuse=residential, such areas cover gardens and highways - which are clearly not residences. I agree for highways but gardens, terraces, garages etc are normally part of the residence, even if you don't sleep there... Cheers Martin ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[Talk-de] OSMFUN: OpenWhatEverMap
Na, welche Hintergrundkarte soll's denn heute sein? https://geoobserver.wordpress.com/2015/06/04/osm-openwhatevermap-org/ Schönen Tag, der geoObserver. ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-us] A note about bags and security at SOTM-US
Well ok, I guess this is primarily targeted at anyone who was planning on bringing a backpack. I'm sure I can fit what I need for a day in a bag this size as well. But any normal backpack is going to be 16-18 inches tall and too large for the UN. This is what I have used at previous conferences because it's what I happen to have and I've seen plenty of others with backpacks as well so I thought it was worth a warning. And while my laptop bag IS on the large side, it is by no means an unreasonable size to grab as a carry-on for an airplane ride and expect to use at the conference once you get there. Again, I've certainly seen 16-18 briefcases and laptop bags at other conferences so it is worth double checking. Toby On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 11:58 PM, Darrell Fuhriman darr...@garnix.org wrote: maximum size for all bags as: 14 (35cm) wide x 13 (33cm) high x 4 (10cm) deep That is *TINY*! I mean even most Hello Kitty backpacks for children are 16 tall. This is slightly larger than my messenger bag (or a briefcase), which I don't consider to be tiny. I can comfortably fit a laptop, a book, a notepad, plus various sundries with room to spare. Maybe I'm crazy, but that seems wholly adequate for a day at a conference. d. ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Cadastre et riverbank
Va quand même falloir penser à l'enlever du wiki, cette limite de 12m, vu qu'on nous la ressort régulièrement… La logique et les pieds sur terre donnent, pour moi, qu'à partir du moment où on arrive à tracer des riverbanks à la main, ils peuvent avoir leur place dans OSM. Je ne sais pas qui a mis 12m ni de quand ça date, mais quand on cartographie les armoires de rue ou les potelets de passage piéton, on doit pouvoir faire bien mieux que 12m. JB. Le 04/06/2015 00:14, Jérôme Seigneuret a écrit : Sébastien, pour les exemples que tu montres,le waterway lui-même est à revoir. Vu la taille (6m), pas la peine de mettre de zonage car la largeur est inférieur au 12m défini comme un minimum dans la doc anglaise. En effet j'ai parlé un peu rapidement sur mon premier message, c'est une erreur de ma part. (Voir mon message précédent). ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [Talk-br] RES: Reunião Periodica - OSM Brasil
Olá Reinaldo, Valeu por mandar um resumo do que aconteceu na reunião. Você teria o link para a base de dados do CNEFE normalizada mencionada durante a reunião? Este foi o script que usei para validar o original comparando com dados do OSM usando PostGIS. https://github.com/tmpsantos/cnefe-tools []'s 2015-06-04 1:24 GMT+03:00 Reinaldo Neves rne...@equacao.com.br: Senhores apenas para não deixarmos em branco e manter a lista informada resolvi fazer um breve relato da reunião online de hoje, caso tenha deixado passar alguma coisa por favor me corrijam. Reinaldo Após uma breve apresentação o Thierry relatou sobre artigos publicados, dos quais já tivemos noticias na lista e encontros que teve com pessoas do IBGE, Correios Brasil, Correios França cujo resumo é: 1) O Correio francês esta em processo de auxiliar na montagem de um cadastro de endereços open, feito por terceiros 2) O IBGE tem interesse nesse tipo de trabalho e não faz restrições ao uso do CNEFE 3) No segundo semestre o IBGE libera atualização do CNEFE com dados de lat/long de outros endereços além dos já existentes em área rural 4) A EBCT tem projeto de cadastro de endereços, que está parado em função de discordâncias internas sobre ser um projeto open, ou o correio continuar “dono” da Informação 5) Foi feito projeto piloto entre OSM/Correio em Trindade para capacitar carteiros a contribuir com o OSM, encontra-se no mesmo status do item anterior pelos mesmos motivos Foi sugerido que se de força as pessoas favoráveis ao projeto open, onde a comunidade OSM possa influir é claro, convidando-as a verbalizar sua posições na mídia escrita e em fóruns nacionais e internacionais que tratem do assunto, como por exemplo o encontro a realizar-se no México e Chile em futuro próximo. Falamos em retomar o processo de constituir o capítulo Brasil do OSM, eventualmente agregando o projeto de endereços abertos sugeridos pelo Thierry. Neste ponto foi sugerida adesão ao projeto open address ( http://openaddresses.io ), não conheço o projeto e não tenho como opinar, contribuições são bem vindas da parte de que já tenha maiores informações. Neste ponto foi colocado que um projeto de endereços seja open address ou próprio da comunidade brasileira deve seguir próximo, mas separado do OSM para que a qualidade de dados das fontes de endereço não comprometa as informações do OSM. Como alguns de nós já pode constatar, mesmo vindo de entidades governamentais como o IBGE a coleta dessas informações depende de pessoas na ponta, que muitas vezes não tem preocupação com os dados de endereço. O mesmo acontece com dados de entidades privadas. Quanto ao uso de dados do DNE dos correios definiu-se que os mesmo não sejam utilizados em qualquer dos dois projetos OSM e OpenAddress enquanto os Correios não alterem sua politica de licenciamento para algo que viabilize o uso dos dados do DNE. Como primeiro ensaio para o BDEnderecos, fique de disponibilizar o que tenho de dados do CNEFE normalizados e higienizado para processamento com o OSM, precisamos apenas coordenar como sera a transferência ou acesso a esses dados. Deixo meu email ao final da mensagem para esse e outros contatos. Nesse ponto foram compartilhados links sobre o assunto ECT e pesquisa de CEP/Endereço que compartilho aqui para conhecimento de todos: http://codigourbano.org/por-que-o-cep-deve-ser-tratado-como-informacao-publica/ http://ceplivre.com.br/ Também conheço o: http://viacep.com.br, e trabalho na estruturação do http://pepbr.com.br Devido ao adiantado da hora encerrou-se a reunião e ficou marcado novo encontro para a próxima quarta dia 10/06, em principio no mesmo horário. Thierry se possível me envie o arquivo do cartão que mencionou. Abraços a todos ___ Reinaldo Neves rne...@equacao.com.br Equação Informática (11) 3221-3722 De: Thierry Jean [mailto:thierryaj...@hotmail.com] Enviada em: terça-feira, 2 de junho de 2015 18:16 Para: talk-br@openstreetmap.org Assunto: [Talk-br] Reunião Periodica - OSM Brasil Caros, Precisamos reativar as nossas reuniões periódicas. Sugiro que elas aconteçam a cada 2 semanas, nas quartas-feiras ao meio dia. Comprei uma licença do ZOOM que funciona muito bem em mobile, além de funcionar em notebooks. É só baixar o app do Zoom e digitar o id do meeting. Time: Jun 3, 2015 12:00 PM (GMT-3:00) Sao Paulo Join from PC, Mac, iOS or Android: https://zoom.us/j/5694747229 Or join by phone: +55 (213) 958-7888 (Brazil Toll) Meeting ID: 569 474 7229 International numbers available: https://zoom.us/zoomconference Os assuntos: Estudar a Criação de um projeto de banco de dados de endereços aberto (lougradouro, CEP, número da casa, Lat/long) Local chapter - OSM Brasil Negociação com
[OSM-talk-be] een mapping party in Gent
Hoi allen, Ik had al eens wat ideetjes gelanceerd in beperkte groep voor een mapping party in Gent. Heeft er iemand zin om daar mee in te vliegen? En zijn er mensen die een introductie JOSM willen komen geven of anderszins willen helpen? Ik zou het ergens in juli of augustus willen doen. Focus op POI's. * Motivatie: Waar we het verschil met Google Maps kunnen maken is bij de ondernemer, de hipster en de lokale overheid. Google is te traag voor de ondernemer met een nieuw project, zet de dingen pas online als ze niet meer hip zijn en heeft minder aandacht voor de gebieden die een lokale overheid net onder de aandacht wil brengen. In Gent ben ik zeker dat we wat steun zouden krijgen van overheidswege als we Bart Rosseau wat uitleg geven over het plan. En die zal wel contacten hebben bij mensen die alternatieve winkelstraten in de verf willen zetten. Die zouden kunnen helpen met promotie (het boekske van Gent?) en misschien wel een locatie voor pre- en post op straat gaan. Waarom het idee van een Map-my-Shop Party mij zo aanspreekt, is omdat het werkt op deze drie zwakten: - Openstreetmap is nog niet bekend genoeg. - Openstreetmap heeft te weinig POIs - Er doen véél te weinig vrouwen aan Openstreetmap Ik zou de promotie wat ludiek en ironisch sexistisch houden. Iets in de stijl van Mapping nerd zoekt vrouw om mee te gaan shoppen. Mannen enkel toegestaan mits ze een vrouw meenemen. * Als we dan toch bezig zijn: Wat betreft fietspaden of toegankelijkheid. De toegankelijkheid van stoepen en winkels lijkt mij absoluut iets dat dit een socialer kantje kan geven. En speciale aandacht voor de fietsinfrastructuur (een kaart die toont waar fietsers niet tegen de richting mogen, of waar de lastige kasseien liggen en de fietsenstallingen zijn) lijkt mij absoluut ook perfect te combineren met het thema. * Organisatorisch: Vóór het echte mappen: geen presentaties. Gewoon aan de mensen vragen smartphones mee te nemen, een aantal tools installeren, wat uitleg over papierwerk, en dan op de baan. Best in groepjes van twee of drie personen om zoveel mogelijk terrein te beslaan. Onderweg: * verdeel een flyer met basisinfo: wat is OSM, wie zijn deze zotten en waarom willen ze mij gratis helpen * verdeel een sticker om ergens in de gemapte winkel te zetten: iets als Tthis time you had to look for this place. Next time, just use OpenStreetMap * neem fiches mee om basisgegevens in te invullen * fieldnotes om het overzicht te houden * eventueel rechtstreeks toevoegen gegevens via Osmand? Mogelijk nog niet direct als POI maar als note. * onderweg mapillary streetview foto's maken (ware ideaal als we zo'n 360° camera te pakken zouden krijgen) Achteraf: * invoeren van de gegevens via verschillende editors * ervaren JOSM mappers nodig voor dingen als compexe openingsuren * Laat het resultaat zien, stel in het licht dat OSM niet gewoon een kaartje is, maar een doos Lego: - hoe ziet het eruit op sites als http://www.openlinkmap.org/ , http://openlovemap.de/ , http://thenextis.com/ (wifi, ATM) etc. - toelichting over indoor mapping, over tagging, POI kaarten op maat via umaps, over lokale data met wereldwijde community (en dus tools en zichtbaarheid) Groeten, Joost ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [OSM-talk] [Talk-us] A note about bags and security at SOTM-US
Well ok, I guess this is primarily targeted at anyone who was planning on bringing a backpack. I'm sure I can fit what I need for a day in a bag this size as well. But any normal backpack is going to be 16-18 inches tall and too large for the UN. This is what I have used at previous conferences because it's what I happen to have and I've seen plenty of others with backpacks as well so I thought it was worth a warning. And while my laptop bag IS on the large side, it is by no means an unreasonable size to grab as a carry-on for an airplane ride and expect to use at the conference once you get there. Again, I've certainly seen 16-18 briefcases and laptop bags at other conferences so it is worth double checking. Toby On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 11:58 PM, Darrell Fuhriman darr...@garnix.org wrote: maximum size for all bags as: 14 (35cm) wide x 13 (33cm) high x 4 (10cm) deep That is *TINY*! I mean even most Hello Kitty backpacks for children are 16 tall. This is slightly larger than my messenger bag (or a briefcase), which I don't consider to be tiny. I can comfortably fit a laptop, a book, a notepad, plus various sundries with room to spare. Maybe I'm crazy, but that seems wholly adequate for a day at a conference. d. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk-be] een mapping party in Gent
Ik ben geinteresseerd voor zoo'n party tussen 1 augustus en 23 augustus of na 1 septembre. mvg Nicolas À jeu. juin 4 09:16:40 2015 GMT+0200, joost schouppe a écrit : Hoi allen, Ik had al eens wat ideetjes gelanceerd in beperkte groep voor een mapping party in Gent. Heeft er iemand zin om daar mee in te vliegen? En zijn er mensen die een introductie JOSM willen komen geven of anderszins willen helpen? Ik zou het ergens in juli of augustus willen doen. Focus op POI's. * Motivatie: Waar we het verschil met Google Maps kunnen maken is bij de ondernemer, de hipster en de lokale overheid. Google is te traag voor de ondernemer met een nieuw project, zet de dingen pas online als ze niet meer hip zijn en heeft minder aandacht voor de gebieden die een lokale overheid net onder de aandacht wil brengen. In Gent ben ik zeker dat we wat steun zouden krijgen van overheidswege als we Bart Rosseau wat uitleg geven over het plan. En die zal wel contacten hebben bij mensen die alternatieve winkelstraten in de verf willen zetten. Die zouden kunnen helpen met promotie (het boekske van Gent?) en misschien wel een locatie voor pre- en post op straat gaan. Waarom het idee van een Map-my-Shop Party mij zo aanspreekt, is omdat het werkt op deze drie zwakten: - Openstreetmap is nog niet bekend genoeg. - Openstreetmap heeft te weinig POIs - Er doen véél te weinig vrouwen aan Openstreetmap Ik zou de promotie wat ludiek en ironisch sexistisch houden. Iets in de stijl van Mapping nerd zoekt vrouw om mee te gaan shoppen. Mannen enkel toegestaan mits ze een vrouw meenemen. * Als we dan toch bezig zijn: Wat betreft fietspaden of toegankelijkheid. De toegankelijkheid van stoepen en winkels lijkt mij absoluut iets dat dit een socialer kantje kan geven. En speciale aandacht voor de fietsinfrastructuur (een kaart die toont waar fietsers niet tegen de richting mogen, of waar de lastige kasseien liggen en de fietsenstallingen zijn) lijkt mij absoluut ook perfect te combineren met het thema. * Organisatorisch: Vóór het echte mappen: geen presentaties. Gewoon aan de mensen vragen smartphones mee te nemen, een aantal tools installeren, wat uitleg over papierwerk, en dan op de baan. Best in groepjes van twee of drie personen om zoveel mogelijk terrein te beslaan. Onderweg: * verdeel een flyer met basisinfo: wat is OSM, wie zijn deze zotten en waarom willen ze mij gratis helpen * verdeel een sticker om ergens in de gemapte winkel te zetten: iets als Tthis time you had to look for this place. Next time, just use OpenStreetMap * neem fiches mee om basisgegevens in te invullen * fieldnotes om het overzicht te houden * eventueel rechtstreeks toevoegen gegevens via Osmand? Mogelijk nog niet direct als POI maar als note. * onderweg mapillary streetview foto's maken (ware ideaal als we zo'n 360° camera te pakken zouden krijgen) Achteraf: * invoeren van de gegevens via verschillende editors * ervaren JOSM mappers nodig voor dingen als compexe openingsuren * Laat het resultaat zien, stel in het licht dat OSM niet gewoon een kaartje is, maar een doos Lego: - hoe ziet het eruit op sites als http://www.openlinkmap.org/ , http://openlovemap.de/ , http://thenextis.com/ (wifi, ATM) etc. - toelichting over indoor mapping, over tagging, POI kaarten op maat via umaps, over lokale data met wereldwijde community (en dus tools en zichtbaarheid) Groeten, Joost -- Envoyé depuis mon Jolla ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [OSM-talk-be] een mapping party in Gent
Gezien Pieter-Jan van Open Knowledbe Belgium vanuit Gent werkt en ik ook in Gent woon, ben ik ook bereid te steunen met communicatie en evt. een locatie te zoeken. Als in juli, dan kunnen we dit samen laten vallen met een avond op open Summer of code: http://summerofcode.be. Dan heb je direct een extra publiek van 20 studenten, en de faciliteiten + drinks gefinancierd door oSoc :) Mvg, Pieter On 04-06-15 11:23, nico...@pettiaux.be wrote: Ik ben geinteresseerd voor zoo'n party tussen 1 augustus en 23 augustus of na 1 septembre. mvg Nicolas À jeu. juin 4 09:16:40 2015 GMT+0200, joost schouppe a écrit : Hoi allen, Ik had al eens wat ideetjes gelanceerd in beperkte groep voor een mapping party in Gent. Heeft er iemand zin om daar mee in te vliegen? En zijn er mensen die een introductie JOSM willen komen geven of anderszins willen helpen? Ik zou het ergens in juli of augustus willen doen. Focus op POI's. * Motivatie: Waar we het verschil met Google Maps kunnen maken is bij de ondernemer, de hipster en de lokale overheid. Google is te traag voor de ondernemer met een nieuw project, zet de dingen pas online als ze niet meer hip zijn en heeft minder aandacht voor de gebieden die een lokale overheid net onder de aandacht wil brengen. In Gent ben ik zeker dat we wat steun zouden krijgen van overheidswege als we Bart Rosseau wat uitleg geven over het plan. En die zal wel contacten hebben bij mensen die alternatieve winkelstraten in de verf willen zetten. Die zouden kunnen helpen met promotie (het boekske van Gent?) en misschien wel een locatie voor pre- en post op straat gaan. Waarom het idee van een Map-my-Shop Party mij zo aanspreekt, is omdat het werkt op deze drie zwakten: - Openstreetmap is nog niet bekend genoeg. - Openstreetmap heeft te weinig POIs - Er doen véél te weinig vrouwen aan Openstreetmap Ik zou de promotie wat ludiek en ironisch sexistisch houden. Iets in de stijl van Mapping nerd zoekt vrouw om mee te gaan shoppen. Mannen enkel toegestaan mits ze een vrouw meenemen. * Als we dan toch bezig zijn: Wat betreft fietspaden of toegankelijkheid. De toegankelijkheid van stoepen en winkels lijkt mij absoluut iets dat dit een socialer kantje kan geven. En speciale aandacht voor de fietsinfrastructuur (een kaart die toont waar fietsers niet tegen de richting mogen, of waar de lastige kasseien liggen en de fietsenstallingen zijn) lijkt mij absoluut ook perfect te combineren met het thema. * Organisatorisch: Vóór het echte mappen: geen presentaties. Gewoon aan de mensen vragen smartphones mee te nemen, een aantal tools installeren, wat uitleg over papierwerk, en dan op de baan. Best in groepjes van twee of drie personen om zoveel mogelijk terrein te beslaan. Onderweg: * verdeel een flyer met basisinfo: wat is OSM, wie zijn deze zotten en waarom willen ze mij gratis helpen * verdeel een sticker om ergens in de gemapte winkel te zetten: iets als Tthis time you had to look for this place. Next time, just use OpenStreetMap * neem fiches mee om basisgegevens in te invullen * fieldnotes om het overzicht te houden * eventueel rechtstreeks toevoegen gegevens via Osmand? Mogelijk nog niet direct als POI maar als note. * onderweg mapillary streetview foto's maken (ware ideaal als we zo'n 360° camera te pakken zouden krijgen) Achteraf: * invoeren van de gegevens via verschillende editors * ervaren JOSM mappers nodig voor dingen als compexe openingsuren * Laat het resultaat zien, stel in het licht dat OSM niet gewoon een kaartje is, maar een doos Lego: - hoe ziet het eruit op sites als http://www.openlinkmap.org/ , http://openlovemap.de/ , http://thenextis.com/ (wifi, ATM) etc. - toelichting over indoor mapping, over tagging, POI kaarten op maat via umaps, over lokale data met wereldwijde community (en dus tools en zichtbaarheid) Groeten, Joost -- +32 486 74 71 22 Open Knowledge Belgium http://okfn.be Open Transport community http://transport.okfn.org ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [Talk-cz] Mapa obce
Děkuji moc. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OSM_on_Paper h. Dne 2. června 2015 20:05 2nd 2...@centrum.cz napsal(a): Ahoj ci dobry den, mimojine pracuji pro osadni vybor v me obci a libila by se nam mapa obce do zasklene vitriny ve formatu A3: poradte prosim jak nejlepe vyexportovat mapu nejlepe v levelu 19 (mapnik), abych to nemusel slepovat v Gimpu :) Dekuji za jakekoliv podnety a pripominky ___ Talk-cz mailing list Talk-cz@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-cz ___ Talk-cz mailing list Talk-cz@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-cz
Re: [Talk-cz] LPIS - objem dat, zjednodušení kontur
On 2015-06-03, 01:10 GMT, jzvc wrote: Ber to zkratka tak, ze to sice naviguje pekne svizne, ale naprosto nepouzitelne ... ;D Pokud chces realne navigaci pouzivat, tak toto rozhodne realne pouzitelne neni. Tak to se musím OSM zastat. Vzhledem k existujícím datům, tak mám s OSM mnohem lepší zkušenosti nežli s některou komerční konkurencí (ehm. here.com). Matěj -- http://www.ceplovi.cz/matej/, Jabber: mceplatceplovi.cz GPG Finger: 89EF 4BC6 288A BF43 1BAB 25C3 E09F EF25 D964 84AC This conversation can serve no purpose anymore. Good bye. -- HAL9000 in 2001: Space Odyssea ___ Talk-cz mailing list Talk-cz@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-cz
[Talk-cz] Hotel Praha
Dobrý den, koukal jsem se na mapy.cz na něco na Hanspaulce (pražská čtvrť, kde jsem kdysi velmi dávno chodil do základní školy) a s překvapením jsem zjistil, že jim tam schází obrovská budova hotelu Praha (nebo jak se teď zrovna jmenuje; podívejte se třeba na leteckou fotku na http://is.gd/OCcdlB, abyste viděli co tam je). Napsal jsem jim pobavenou reakci na to, že přehlédli drobnou stavbičku a pro jistotu jsem šel zkontrolovat do OSM, a zjistil, že nám schází taky (http://www.openstreetmap.org/note/374587). A dokonce, že chybí i na here.com http://her.is/1FvRb3f Kdo od koho opisoval? Matěj -- http://www.ceplovi.cz/matej/, Jabber: mceplatceplovi.cz GPG Finger: 89EF 4BC6 288A BF43 1BAB 25C3 E09F EF25 D964 84AC You either die a hero or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain. -- Harvey Dent in The Dark Knight ___ Talk-cz mailing list Talk-cz@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-cz
Re: [Talk-cz] Hotel Praha
Mno, http://www.lidovky.cz/jak-mizel-kellneruv-hotel-praha-podivejte-se-na-fotografie-paf-/zpravy-domov.aspx?c=A140607_173219_ln_domov_sk h. Dne 4. června 2015 12:27 Matěj Cepl mc...@cepl.eu napsal(a): Dobrý den, koukal jsem se na mapy.cz na něco na Hanspaulce (pražská čtvrť, kde jsem kdysi velmi dávno chodil do základní školy) a s překvapením jsem zjistil, že jim tam schází obrovská budova hotelu Praha (nebo jak se teď zrovna jmenuje; podívejte se třeba na leteckou fotku na http://is.gd/OCcdlB, abyste viděli co tam je). Napsal jsem jim pobavenou reakci na to, že přehlédli drobnou stavbičku a pro jistotu jsem šel zkontrolovat do OSM, a zjistil, že nám schází taky (http://www.openstreetmap.org/note/374587). A dokonce, že chybí i na here.com http://her.is/1FvRb3f Kdo od koho opisoval? Matěj -- http://www.ceplovi.cz/matej/, Jabber: mceplatceplovi.cz GPG Finger: 89EF 4BC6 288A BF43 1BAB 25C3 E09F EF25 D964 84AC You either die a hero or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain. -- Harvey Dent in The Dark Knight ___ Talk-cz mailing list Talk-cz@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-cz ___ Talk-cz mailing list Talk-cz@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-cz
Re: [Talk-cz] Hotel Praha
Takový humbuk kolem toho a ty jsi nic nezaznamenal? http://www.lidovky.cz/jak-mizel-kellneruv-hotel-praha-podivejte-se-na- fotografie-paf-/zpravy-domov.aspx?c=A140607_173219_ln_domov_sk http://cs.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hotel_Praha Marián -- Původní zpráva -- Od: MatějCepl mc...@cepl.eu Komu: talk-cz@openstreetmap.org Datum: 4. 6. 2015 12:29:20 Předmět: [Talk-cz] Hotel Praha Dobrý den, koukal jsem se na mapy.cz na něco na Hanspaulce (pražská čtvrť, kde jsem kdysi velmi dávno chodil do základní školy) a s překvapením jsem zjistil, že jim tam schází obrovská budova hotelu Praha (nebo jak se teď zrovna jmenuje; podívejte se třeba na leteckou fotku na http://is.gd/OCcdlB, abyste viděli co tam je). Napsal jsem jim pobavenou reakci na to, že přehlédli drobnou stavbičku a pro jistotu jsem šel zkontrolovat do OSM, a zjistil, že nám schází taky (http://www.openstreetmap.org/note/374587). A dokonce, že chybí i na here.com http://her.is/1FvRb3f Kdo od koho opisoval? Matěj -- http://www.ceplovi.cz/matej/, Jabber: mceplatceplovi.cz GPG Finger: 89EF 4BC6 288A BF43 1BAB 25C3 E09F EF25 D964 84AC You either die a hero or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain. -- Harvey Dent in The Dark Knight ___ Talk-cz mailing list Talk-cz@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-cz;___ Talk-cz mailing list Talk-cz@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-cz
Re: [Talk-cz] Hotel Praha
Zdravím, no vždyť je to správně - loni ho zbourali. Viz třeba: http://cs.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hotel_Praha#Demolice H. -- Původní zpráva -- Od: MatějCepl mc...@cepl.eu Komu: talk-cz@openstreetmap.org Datum: 4. 6. 2015 12:29:20 Předmět: [Talk-cz] Hotel Praha Dobrý den, koukal jsem se na mapy.cz na něco na Hanspaulce (pražská čtvrť, kde jsem kdysi velmi dávno chodil do základní školy) a s překvapením jsem zjistil, že jim tam schází obrovská budova hotelu Praha (nebo jak se teď zrovna jmenuje; podívejte se třeba na leteckou fotku na http://is.gd/OCcdlB, abyste viděli co tam je). Napsal jsem jim pobavenou reakci na to, že přehlédli drobnou stavbičku a pro jistotu jsem šel zkontrolovat do OSM, a zjistil, že nám schází taky (http://www.openstreetmap.org/note/374587). A dokonce, že chybí i na here.com http://her.is/1FvRb3f Kdo od koho opisoval? Matěj -- http://www.ceplovi.cz/matej/, Jabber: mceplatceplovi.cz GPG Finger: 89EF 4BC6 288A BF43 1BAB 25C3 E09F EF25 D964 84AC You either die a hero or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain. -- Harvey Dent in The Dark Knight ___ Talk-cz mailing list Talk-cz@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-cz;___ Talk-cz mailing list Talk-cz@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-cz
Re: [Talk-cz] Hotel Praha
Ahoj, zadej si do vyhledávače Hotel Praha a demolice a zjistíš více informací. Zdraví Pavel Kwiecien -- Původní zpráva -- Od: MatějCepl mc...@cepl.eu Komu: talk-cz@openstreetmap.org Datum: 4. 6. 2015 12:29:20 Předmět: [Talk-cz] Hotel Praha Dobrý den, koukal jsem se na mapy.cz na něco na Hanspaulce (pražská čtvrť, kde jsem kdysi velmi dávno chodil do základní školy) a s překvapením jsem zjistil, že jim tam schází obrovská budova hotelu Praha (nebo jak se teď zrovna jmenuje; podívejte se třeba na leteckou fotku na http://is.gd/OCcdlB, abyste viděli co tam je). Napsal jsem jim pobavenou reakci na to, že přehlédli drobnou stavbičku a pro jistotu jsem šel zkontrolovat do OSM, a zjistil, že nám schází taky (http://www.openstreetmap.org/note/374587). A dokonce, že chybí i na here.com http://her.is/1FvRb3f Kdo od koho opisoval? Matěj -- http://www.ceplovi.cz/matej/, Jabber: mceplatceplovi.cz GPG Finger: 89EF 4BC6 288A BF43 1BAB 25C3 E09F EF25 D964 84AC You either die a hero or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain. -- Harvey Dent in The Dark Knight ___ Talk-cz mailing list Talk-cz@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-cz;___ Talk-cz mailing list Talk-cz@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-cz
Re: [Talk-cz] Hotel Praha
Aha, kdo pozde posila, sam sobe skodi. :) Sorry za zbytecny spam, dlouho otevrene neobnovene okno. h. Dne 4. června 2015 12:51 honny honny...@gmail.com napsal(a): Mno, http://www.lidovky.cz/jak-mizel-kellneruv-hotel-praha-podivejte-se-na-fotografie-paf-/zpravy-domov.aspx?c=A140607_173219_ln_domov_sk h. Dne 4. června 2015 12:27 Matěj Cepl mc...@cepl.eu napsal(a): Dobrý den, koukal jsem se na mapy.cz na něco na Hanspaulce (pražská čtvrť, kde jsem kdysi velmi dávno chodil do základní školy) a s překvapením jsem zjistil, že jim tam schází obrovská budova hotelu Praha (nebo jak se teď zrovna jmenuje; podívejte se třeba na leteckou fotku na http://is.gd/OCcdlB, abyste viděli co tam je). Napsal jsem jim pobavenou reakci na to, že přehlédli drobnou stavbičku a pro jistotu jsem šel zkontrolovat do OSM, a zjistil, že nám schází taky (http://www.openstreetmap.org/note/374587). A dokonce, že chybí i na here.com http://her.is/1FvRb3f Kdo od koho opisoval? Matěj -- http://www.ceplovi.cz/matej/, Jabber: mceplatceplovi.cz GPG Finger: 89EF 4BC6 288A BF43 1BAB 25C3 E09F EF25 D964 84AC You either die a hero or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain. -- Harvey Dent in The Dark Knight ___ Talk-cz mailing list Talk-cz@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-cz ___ Talk-cz mailing list Talk-cz@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-cz
Re: [Talk-cz] LPIS - objem dat, zjednodušení kontur
Dne 4.6.2015 v 11:22 Matěj Cepl napsal(a): On 2015-06-03, 01:10 GMT, jzvc wrote: Ber to zkratka tak, ze to sice naviguje pekne svizne, ale naprosto nepouzitelne ... ;D Pokud chces realne navigaci pouzivat, tak toto rozhodne realne pouzitelne neni. Tak to se musím OSM zastat. Vzhledem k existujícím datům, tak mám s OSM mnohem lepší zkušenosti nežli s některou komerční konkurencí (ehm. here.com). Matěj Zastavat se muzes, ale zastavas se na spatnym miste, neni totiz rec o datech, ale o konkretni navigaci, ktera je proste nepouzitelna. Hromada jinych navigaci ktery pouzivaji OSM data naviguje podstatne lip. ___ Talk-cz mailing list Talk-cz@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-cz
[Talk-it] entrare nelle classi di geografia?
Uno stimolo alla riflessione: http://tropicodellibro.it/formazione/geografie-narranti/ *La Geografia va intesa come luogo di transizione tra temporalità naturale e temporalità umana e come essenziale tramite di raccordo tra scienze della natura e mondo sociale. Se nelle prime fasi dell’apprendimento, tale studio avrà essenzialmente una dimensione descrittiva storico-politica, storicamente sarà finalizzato alla comprensione del sistema Terra.* Ciao Francesca ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
[Talk-cz] WeeklyOSM CZ 252
Ahoj, je dostupné vydání 252 týdeníku weeklyOSM: http://www.weeklyosm.eu/cz/archives/3756 Téma čísla: Nemapová data v OSM - otevírací hodiny * Nechcete nás číst v češtině? Nově stačí umět indonésky. * Hledáte vhodný navigační program do auta a chcete inspiraci? * Nove Garminy eTrex mají v základu mapy z OSM dat. * 6500 aktivních mapperů v Nepálu po nedávném zemětřesení. * Víte, že existuje kniha o OSM? * Nové ikony pro některé POI v OSM. Pěkné počtení... ___ Talk-cz mailing list Talk-cz@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-cz
Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Water Orton tomorrow
Could folks indicate where they want to map? See you later. Cheers Andy From: Rob Nickerson [mailto:rob.j.nicker...@gmail.com] Sent: 03 June 2015 20:05 To: talk-gb-westmidlands Subject: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Water Orton tomorrow Hi all, Don't forget we are in Water Orton tomorrow evening (Thursday). Details on the Mappa Mercia page on the wiki. See you there :-) Rob ___ Talk-gb-westmidlands mailing list Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb-westmidlands
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Cadastre et riverbank
Le jeudi 4 juin 2015 08:19:13 JB a écrit : Va quand même falloir penser à l'enlever du wiki, cette limite de 12m, vu qu'on nous la ressort régulièrement… La logique et les pieds sur terre donnent, pour moi, qu'à partir du moment où on arrive à tracer des riverbanks à la main, ils peuvent avoir leur place dans OSM. Je ne sais pas qui a mis 12m ni de quand ça date, mais quand on cartographie les armoires de rue ou les potelets de passage piéton, on doit pouvoir faire bien mieux que 12m. +1 C'est clair. Autant, je vais pas le faire pour certaines rivières de 2-3 m, qui n'ont pas un profil super intéressant, autant ça pourrait être intéressant si la rivière a une forme bizarre, ou bien si elle très pratiqué en sport d'eaux vives par exemple. Au delà de l'intérêt de la donnée, l'autre soucis est l'acquisition qui est plus relatif à la visibilité sur les vues aérienne qu'à la taille. Avec une imagerie à 25cm, on a déjà de quoi s'amuser. Sans parler de possibles relevés par GPS différentiel. Bref, comme souvent, c'est difficile de trancher arbitrairement, et il faut adapter la décision au contexte, aux moyens, à la pertinence et à l'envie. -- Nicolas Dumoulin http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:NicolasDumoulin ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Cadastre et riverbank
Après avoir mesuré au *zoom 18* le tracé d'un *river* fait déjà *entre 5 et 6 m* sur Mapnik. A voir sur les autres. Du coup en river il faudrait n'avoir que des cours d'eau dont la taille est supérieur? (limite de la représentation) est-ce que l'épaisseur du trait et corrigé si la taille du cours d'eau est inférieur? Question taille : un *steam *serait donc jusqu’à 5 à 6 mètres? (On est loin de pouvoir aisément sauter par dessus...) puis on passe sur du *river* Il va bien falloir fixer des règles pour passer de l'un à l'autre car la représentation en dépend et l'exploitation des données aussi. Cas chiant : Que faire aussi quand en intermittence tu as un steam car c'est pas plus large qu'1m et en saison de fonte des neiges tu a un river de plus de 10m? Le 4 juin 2015 08:19, JB jb...@mailoo.org a écrit : Va quand même falloir penser à l'enlever du wiki, cette limite de 12m, vu qu'on nous la ressort régulièrement… La logique et les pieds sur terre donnent, pour moi, qu'à partir du moment où on arrive à tracer des riverbanks à la main, ils peuvent avoir leur place dans OSM. Je ne sais pas qui a mis 12m ni de quand ça date, mais quand on cartographie les armoires de rue ou les potelets de passage piéton, on doit pouvoir faire bien mieux que 12m. JB. Le 04/06/2015 00:14, Jérôme Seigneuret a écrit : Sébastien, pour les exemples que tu montres,le waterway lui-même est à revoir. Vu la taille (6m), pas la peine de mettre de zonage car la largeur est inférieur au 12m défini comme un minimum dans la doc anglaise. En effet j'ai parlé un peu rapidement sur mon premier message, c'est une erreur de ma part. (Voir mon message précédent). ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [Talk-it] da Mapillary a Commons
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[Talk-it] da Mapillary a Commons
grazie ad un tool di wikimedia ora è possibile trasferire una fotografia scattata con mapillary direttamente in Wikimedia Commons Qui l'url https://tools.wmflabs.org/mapillary-commons/mapillary2commons/ :) -- Maurizio Napo Napolitano http://de.straba.us ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
[Talk-GB] place gazetteer
Looking through a few is_in links, I'm finding the odd mistake in hierarchy, and I am wondering if there is any tool around which will allow me to select say 'England' and list the counties, select a county and list city/town/village. I'm currently trawling through mistakes in the Facebook places list ( where everything you are allowed to select is a city ;) ) and having added over 50 places which mistakenly have 'slough' in the title to http://www.jasonfriend.me/facebookplaces/w/editing:incorrectlyspelledcities:europe:uk the next step is to work through the rest of London which is known to have many places with the wrong borough identified. I'm sure someone has been playing with this and it may well be a useful service that could be used for searches from websites? While nominatim allows searches for A location I can't see a way to return all the results for a particular hierarchy (or Hierarcy if you insist) -- Lester Caine - G8HFL - Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page=contact L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http://lsces.co.uk EnquirySolve - http://enquirysolve.com/ Model Engineers Digital Workshop - http://medw.co.uk Rainbow Digital Media - http://rainbowdigitalmedia.co.uk ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-it] ciclabile
La situazione è cosi: marciapiede (gradino) ciclabile a senso unico (cordolo) strada a senso unico (cordolo) ciclabile a senso unico opposto (gradino) marciapiede Se vuoi economizzare sul tagging, puoi utilizzare tre ways come indicato in http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Bicycle S4 opzione centrale: Cycle tracks on left and right sides of the road and the sidewalks/footways. Way A : highway http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:highway=*[1] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Bicycle#cite_note-anyroad-1 + bicycle http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:bicycle=use_sidepath http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:bicycle%3Duse_sidepath (l'uso è obbligatorio in Italia) Way B : highway http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:highway=cycleway http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway%3Dcycleway + oneway http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:oneway=yes + foot http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:foot=designated http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:foot%3Ddesignated + segregated http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:segregated=yes Way C : highway http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:highway=cycleway http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway%3Dcycleway + oneway http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:oneway=yes + foot http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:foot=designated http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:foot%3Ddesignated + segregated http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:segregated=yes Personalmente preferisco la soluzione completa (S4 ultima opzione) perché ti permette di indicare anche la relativa posizione di marciapiede e ciclabile e di aggiungere attributi ad ogni way come width, surface, smoothness senza utilizzare lo schema lanes. 2015-06-04 10:11 GMT+02:00 Alessandro Chiostri alech.b...@gmail.com: Ma non è sempre stato scritto che i marciapiedi non devono essere mappati quando c'è solo un gradino a separare , non una siepe o muretto, e bisogna limitarsi ad usare [sidewalk] ??? Il giorno 3 giugno 2015 19:09, Volker Schmidt vosc...@gmail.com ha scritto: ... e poi c'è un marciapiede parallelo che non è contiguo alla ciclabile. C'è un gradino fra marciapiede e ciclabile. Come è mappato adesso è corretto per un router per auto e per bici. Ma se uno vuole fare un lavoro perfetto, dovrebbe utilizzare 5 ways paralleli. 2 marciapiedi, 2 piste ciclabili a senso unico, una strada a senso unico. Poi ci sarebbero da inerire tutte le strisce, solo pedonali per i marciapiedi e solo bici per le ciclabili. Un sacco di lavoro, ma sarebbe bello. 2015-06-03 18:55 GMT+02:00 demon.box e.rossin...@alice.it: intendo pista ciclabile separata da un cordolo rispetto alla sede stradale per gli autoveicoli. si tratta di tutta la Via Guglielmo Marconi http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=17/45.55290/10.22572 forse in effetti come dice giustamente *dieterdreist* la soluzione più semplice è tracciare con 2 oggetti separati le 2 highway=cycleway -- View this message in context: http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/ciclabile-tp5846966p5846987.html Sent from the Italy General mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] ciclabile
Ma non è sempre stato scritto che i marciapiedi non devono essere mappati quando c'è solo un gradino a separare , non una siepe o muretto, e bisogna limitarsi ad usare [sidewalk] ??? Il giorno 3 giugno 2015 19:09, Volker Schmidt vosc...@gmail.com ha scritto: ... e poi c'è un marciapiede parallelo che non è contiguo alla ciclabile. C'è un gradino fra marciapiede e ciclabile. Come è mappato adesso è corretto per un router per auto e per bici. Ma se uno vuole fare un lavoro perfetto, dovrebbe utilizzare 5 ways paralleli. 2 marciapiedi, 2 piste ciclabili a senso unico, una strada a senso unico. Poi ci sarebbero da inerire tutte le strisce, solo pedonali per i marciapiedi e solo bici per le ciclabili. Un sacco di lavoro, ma sarebbe bello. 2015-06-03 18:55 GMT+02:00 demon.box e.rossin...@alice.it: intendo pista ciclabile separata da un cordolo rispetto alla sede stradale per gli autoveicoli. si tratta di tutta la Via Guglielmo Marconi http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=17/45.55290/10.22572 forse in effetti come dice giustamente *dieterdreist* la soluzione più semplice è tracciare con 2 oggetti separati le 2 highway=cycleway -- View this message in context: http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/ciclabile-tp5846966p5846987.html Sent from the Italy General mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-GB] OS Open Names
Nice work Chris,
Cheers
Andy
-Original Message-
From: Chris Hill [mailto:o...@raggedred.net]
Sent: 03 June 2015 18:57
To: Talk-GB
Subject: [Talk-GB] OS Open Names
Hi,
I've been looking at OS Open Names, part of the Ordnance Survey Open Data. OS
notified me that OS Locator will be withdrawn, hinted that Codepoint Open will
be withdrawn too and that OS Open Names is the combined replacement. OS Open
Names is published under OGL, so it is compatible with OSM's licence.
The OS Open Names data has place names, road names and postcode centroids, all
with location fields. Original OS open data was positioned to a square metre,
the new locations have decimal parts of metres which may make them a bit more
accurate, possibly millimetre accurate.
I have extracted the postcode data from OS Open Names and generated a fresh set
of postcode tiles to look at. The centroid locations are different from the
Codepoint Open and ONS locations, but all that I have checked seem an
appropriate location, and possibly more useful. The difference is more than the
sub-metre accuracy improvements. You can use oscompare[1] to see the new
postcode centroids alongside the older centroids. I've made the Open Names
postcodes magenta to distinguish them - I think I prefer red but I'll leave
that for another day. You can use the tiles in JOSM and P2 using the url
below[2]
The OS Locator replacement has a significant drawback: OS Locator had a field
for the road name and a field for the road reference. OS Open Names ignores the
reference for any road, or section of a road, that has name, only showing the
reference for unnamed roads. (thanks to Robert
(ris) for drawing my attention to this).
I now have the data extracted and reprojected to replace OS grid refs with lon,
lat. If anyone is interested in this data I can supply it, please ask.
[1]
http://oscompare.raggedred.net/?zoom=17lat=53.95537lon=-1.03351layers=B00FFTFT
[2] http://www.raggedred.net/tiles/opennames/{z}/{x}/{y}.png
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Cheers, Chris
user: chillly
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Re: [Talk-at] Public Transport Schema und Wien
Danke für die Korrekturen. Stimmt. Die Stops sollten mit der Straße verbunden sein... Normalerweise zeigt mir Josm immer Fehler an, wenn ich ein paar Stationen nicht mit der Linie verbunden habe. Ich finde den 16A nicht so kompliziert... Da hab ich der Api schon was voraus . Ich verstehe aber in etwa, wie das, was die Api darstellt, gedacht ist. Wenn man ein wenig Interpretiert stimmt die Darstellung ... Mit dem 85A habe ich vor ein paar Wochen genau so gekämpft. Aber der ist mit seinem Rundkurs (Rautenweg - Rautenweg) Wirklich etwas kompliziert...Aber wenn sonst beim 16A alles stimmt geht es wohl nicht richtiger... Lg RobinD (emergency99) ___ Talk-at mailing list Talk-at@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-at
[Talk-it] Fwd: Mapillary 2 Commons: ovvero come fotografare, mappare su OSM e caricare su Commons
(crossposting dalla lista soci di Wikimedia Italia) Ciao a tutti, Vi segnalo questo tool: Mapillary 2 Commons https://tools.wmflabs.org/mapillary-commons/mapillary2commons/ Per chi non lo conoscesse, Mapillary è una app che permette di scattare foto con lo smartphone per costruire una Street View collabolarita (à la Google Street View): http://www.mapillary.com Le foto hanno una licenza CC-BY-SA: http://www.mapillary.com/map/imgl/cIAYl_qqBnVRYec_7DZHHg/photo (vedete in Photo Details) E i geodati associati alla foto sono rilasciati con licenza ODbL: http://www.mapillary.com/legal.html Hanno anche rilasciato un plugin per l'editor iD che permette di usare le foto durante l'editing: https://github.com/mapillary/iD Questo tool, hostato sul Toollabs di Wikimedia Foundation e sviluppato da André Costa si possono trasferire le foto da Mapillary su Commons: https://twitter.com/Lokal_Profil/status/603535297989779457 Cristian ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
[Talk-lt] Kauno šviesoforų softas naudoja OSM
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Re: [OSM-talk-fr] DKIM comment taguer des panneaux biche (dot com) / animaux sauvages
Bonjour, c'est bien normal, ou pas. Tu t'attendais à quoi ? Quelle informations veux-tu trouver ? Les différents tags ? J'ai pensé aussi à une image mapillary. A+ Marc Sibert m...@sibert.fr Le 2 juin 2015 19:03, Jean-Francois Nifenecker jean-francois.nifenec...@laposte.net a écrit : Bonsoir Florian, Le 01/06/2015 13:42, Florian LAINEZ a écrit : Suite à de nombreuses discussions ce week-end au SoTM-fr, beaucoup d'entre vous sont déjà au courant : http://panneauxbiche.com a été lancé pour recenser les panneaux de signalement des animaux sauvages. bon, c'est comme BANO, j'ai une fois de plus rien compris... Sur la page pointée on voit des lignes rouges mais on a beau zoumer/cliquer sur les lignes ou les points rouges... rien ne se passe :( C'est moi, ou bien ? -- Jean-Francois Nifenecker, Bordeaux ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [Talk-it] da Mapillary a Commons
Poi c'è adesso anche il beta del plugin per JOSM: https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/josm-dev/2015-June/007372.html Volker 2015-06-04 11:02 GMT+02:00 Cristian Consonni kikkocrist...@gmail.com: Il 4 giugno 2015 10:40, Maurizio Napolitano napoo...@gmail.com ha scritto: grazie ad un tool di wikimedia ora è possibile trasferire una fotografia scattata con mapillary direttamente in Wikimedia Commons Qui l'url https://tools.wmflabs.org/mapillary-commons/mapillary2commons/ Ah, scusate, non avevo visto quest'altro thread! (Maurizio mi ha preceduto perché ha mandato una mail più breve, così non vale!) C ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-GB] OS Open Names
On 3 June 2015 at 18:57, Chris Hill o...@raggedred.net wrote:
You can use the tiles in JOSM
using the url below[2]
[2] http://www.raggedred.net/tiles/opennames/{z}/{x}/{y}.png
Please remind us how to add that - is it WMS or TMS?
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Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Cadastre et riverbank
Le 4 juin 2015 11:23, JB jb...@mailoo.org a écrit : Le 04/06/2015 10:37, Jérôme Seigneuret a écrit : Après avoir mesuré au *zoom 18* le tracé d'un *river* fait déjà *entre 5 et 6 m* sur Mapnik. A voir sur les autres. Sur R25 au 1:25000, elle fait environ 1mm, soit 25 mètres… Du coup, je passe en stream tout ce qui est plus étroit ? La donnée et le rendu sont deux choses différentes. Je ne connaissais pas cette variante de taguer pour le rendu :-) Ne savez-vous pas que les cartes mentent ? http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/G%C3%A9n%C3%A9ralisation_cartographique#Le_mensonge_cartographique A+ Bruno ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [Talk-GB] OS Open Names
The tiles are tms, the max zoom is 21, the url is as below.
I'm writing some information pages about these tiles which will include a
step-by-step guide.
Any feedback, precise or not, is welcome.
Cheers, Chris
On 4 June 2015 10:36:22 GMT+01:00, Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk
wrote:
On 3 June 2015 at 18:57, Chris Hill o...@raggedred.net wrote:
You can use the tiles in JOSM
using the url below[2]
[2] http://www.raggedred.net/tiles/opennames/{z}/{x}/{y}.png
Please remind us how to add that - is it WMS or TMS?
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Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Cadastre et riverbank
Le 04/06/2015 10:37, Jérôme Seigneuret a écrit : Après avoir mesuré au *zoom 18* le tracé d'un *river* fait déjà *entre 5 et 6 m* sur Mapnik. A voir sur les autres. Sur R25 au 1:25000, elle fait environ 1mm, soit 25 mètres… Du coup, je passe en stream tout ce qui est plus étroit ? La donnée et le rendu sont deux choses différentes. Du coup en river il faudrait n'avoir que des cours d'eau dont la taille est supérieur? (limite de la représentation) est-ce que l'épaisseur du trait et corrigé si la taille du cours d'eau est inférieur? Si ton intérêt est dans les cours d'eau, et que tu veux une représentation particulière, il va falloir trouver un rendu spécialisé ou le trouver… Qui utilisera des tag width (à peu près jamais utilisé), les riverbanks quand dessinés, etc. Question taille : un *steam *serait donc jusqu’à 5 à 6 mètres? (On est loin de pouvoir aisément sauter par dessus...) puis on passe sur du *river* Je ne répondrai pas forcément à la question, mais le wiki oriente vers quelque chose de plus étroit (je vais éviter de polémiquer, mais je pense qu'il pourrait effectivement y avoir une catégorie intermédiaire). Il va bien falloir fixer des règles pour passer de l'un à l'autre car la représentation en dépend et l'exploitation des données aussi. Essaye de sauter par dessus, c'est ce que le wiki indique. Selon l'état de tes chaussettes, tu sauras où le classer. Tu peux aussi faire un sondage en invitant toute la famille ou le village à sauter et moyenner le poids des chaussettes. Cas chiant : Que faire aussi quand en intermittence tu as un steam car c'est pas plus large qu'1m et en saison de fonte des neiges tu a un river de plus de 10m? Les réflexions n'avancent pas trop : http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/floodplain, http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:flood_prone. Mais si tu as un ruisseau 11 mois sur 12… ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [Talk-cz] LPIS - objem dat, zjednodušení kontur
Ahoj, jak to nakonec dopadlo s těmi ortofotomapami od Prahy? Je možné je použít k mapování, nebo je tam nějaký licenční problém? Ty by mohly pomoci s chodníky, tramvajovými kolejemi a dalšími drobnostmi do mapy. Jethro 2015-06-03 22:43 GMT+02:00 Petr Vejsada o...@propsychology.cz: Ahoj, Dne St 3. června 2015 21:46:15, Pavel Machek napsal(a): Za chodniky bych se primlouval. Pouzivaj se pro planovani pro slepe, pro planovani pesich tras, a je to dalsi cast do skladacky... koukám na to a vidím, že až tak přesné nejsou. Sada se jmenuje pěší trasy a cesta vede třeba uprostřed ulice, kde jsou v OSM (i v realitě) tramvajové koleje. Mohly by být zajímavé cyklistické trasy a cyklistické značky, vrstevnice po metru, výška povrchu a terénu, 3D budovy, ... http://www.geoportalpraha.cz/cs/opendata - pěkně se to rozjelo -- Petr ___ Talk-cz mailing list Talk-cz@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-cz ___ Talk-cz mailing list Talk-cz@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-cz
[Talk-dk] Split way sletter historikken
Hej, jeg trækkes med en lille særhed ved editering af OSM, jeg imidlertid som dokumentations-tilhænger synes er et kæmpe issue. Jeg har brug for at høre jer andre, om jeg virkelig har fået rigtigt fat i det, og hvis det er uløseligt, så måske et trøstens Det må du leve med. Problemet kort: Når man i JOSM opdeler en eksisterende way vha. split way, så forsvinder historikken jo fra den fjerneste halvdel, som i stedet bliver til en fuldstændig ny way med én selv som ophavsmand (men dog bevarede tags). Helt banalt så er konsekvensen af slettet historik for en way: - alle tidligere udgaver af way'en forsvinder - henvisningen til tilsvarende changesets og dermed dokumentationen forsvinder (dog kan evt. source i nugældende tags stadig ses). - de bidragsydere man står på skuldrene af får ingen credit, og kan heller ikke bruges ved nysgerrighed/fejlfinding. - JEG bliver tilskrevet som ophavsmand til den nye way, hvis tilblivelse og gyldighed jeg ikke kan tage ansvar eller ære for. - osv. Split way på eksisterende ways er jævnligt nødvendig at bruge, fx når: - der skal forfines med tilføjelse af et tag på kun en del af en vej (fx belægningstype) - man laver en route/relation ud fra fx afmærkede regionale cykelruter; så er det tit nødvendigt talrige gange at hakke veje over når ruten drejer fra. Dvs. redigeringen, der skulle forbedre kortet, har så også resulteret i en destruktion af databasen, hvor alle tidligere udgaver af de afsplittede halvdele er forsvundet. Det hverken lyder eller er rart. Det eneste jeg kan finde på for at mildne skadenvirkningen, er at vende wayretningen før split, så kun den mindst betydende halvdel nydannes, men det kan overhovedet ikke kaldes en løsning. Ikke sandt? - mvh. Asger Frank ___ Talk-dk mailing list Talk-dk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-dk
Re: [Talk-cz] LPIS - objem dat, zjednodušení kontur
-- Původní zpráva -- Od: MatějCepl mc...@cepl.eu Komu: talk-cz@openstreetmap.org Datum: 4. 6. 2015 14:18:32 Předmět: Re: [Talk-cz] LPIS - objem dat, zjednodušení kontur On 2015-06-04, 10:58 GMT, jzvc wrote: Zastavat se muzes, ale zastavas se na spatnym miste, neni totiz rec o datech, ale o konkretni navigaci, ktera je proste nepouzitelna. Hromada jinych navigaci ktery pouzivaji OSM data naviguje podstatne lip. a) Ano, i se špatným UI a možná horšími algoritmy jsem stále openstreetmap.org vděčný že mi našla pěší tůru 2 km (s unavenými a nadávajícími dětmi a blížícím se deštěm) tam, kde here.com navrhovalo 6 km. b) Víš o nějaké HTML5 mobilní aplikaci, která by dodala lepší navigaci? Dvoukilometrová pěší tůra? Na to přece nepotřebuji navigaci. Stačí pohled do mapy ne? :-D Marián ___ Talk-cz mailing list Talk-cz@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-cz
Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Import of Placename Database of Ireland
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Stephen, Here's a quick map of what's in Logainm: http://imgur.com/RFOP30Q As you can see they have a little bit of data for the North, but it's nearly entirely Republic only. Alas. Maybe when we import it, we can give them a dump (in their format) of townlands (etc) for NI? Or if we please logain, then maybe Placenames NI might be encouraged to open some data? Rory On 04/06/15 00:04, Stephen Roulston wrote: Sounds really great Rory. Do you know if the Logainm database covers the North? Placenamesni has a fairly comprehensive, but incomplete coverage of the Irish names, but I don't know how easy it would be to access them. KDDA has great contacts in Placenamesni if required. Stephen Stephen On 3 Jun 2015, at 19:37, Rory McCann r...@technomancy.org wrote: Hi all, This is a planned import of the metadata from the Placenames Database of Ireland (Logainm) into OpenStreetMap. I would like to match up the official Irish names from Logainm with the exiting administrative boundaries in OSM (counties, baronies, CPs, EDs, and townlands). The Irish community already supports this move. Wiki page: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Logainm_Import Some of the code that will do it is here: https://github.com/rory/logainm-osm-import Rory ___ Talk-ie mailing list Talk-ie@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ie ___ Talk-ie mailing list Talk-ie@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ie -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1 iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJVcDYmAAoJEOrWdmeZivv2PHEH/imrTbU5RCq9LtDX0Gz2OXc9 i6MJQlnlrzeJLyyLwKi5OypElLA15pDwvJzMpKQ+ZeKvVPk6Ph9xKsRa5ApUXxOO hZcmyKaontzWsItH/au6dqQrs+a58HhBsINk6eFMddP3XA4rJ+cYIaZc+2hhdnmv pGtI0fOyfAAQBBPWM5PQL0XgJfElI+uckzTjFrHgyhN5X/SZZVopa6k6cPqBHs+u kuvUJrILnwLCuBC6kiGaUDPpT8GuTIo8MxL9hH7QSsz1ivy2K4cwTdVh3Aj+peEO rvCXmiZ+yc7T9TbPSpcxBBjFaberPyChZ8LILto5AtGjvsclfG9kfg6rgB30CYU= =tu9t -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Talk-ie mailing list Talk-ie@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ie
Re: [Talk-cz] LPIS - objem dat, zjednodušení kontur
On 2015-06-04, 10:58 GMT, jzvc wrote: Zastavat se muzes, ale zastavas se na spatnym miste, neni totiz rec o datech, ale o konkretni navigaci, ktera je proste nepouzitelna. Hromada jinych navigaci ktery pouzivaji OSM data naviguje podstatne lip. a) Ano, i se špatným UI a možná horšími algoritmy jsem stále openstreetmap.org vděčný že mi našla pěší tůru 2 km (s unavenými a nadávajícími dětmi a blížícím se deštěm) tam, kde here.com navrhovalo 6 km. b) Víš o nějaké HTML5 mobilní aplikaci, která by dodala lepší navigaci? Hezký den, Matěj -- http://www.ceplovi.cz/matej/, Jabber: mceplatceplovi.cz GPG Finger: 89EF 4BC6 288A BF43 1BAB 25C3 E09F EF25 D964 84AC Q: Is vi an easy editor to learn, is it intuitive? A: Yes, some of us think so. But most people think that we are crazy. -- vi FAQ ___ Talk-cz mailing list Talk-cz@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-cz
Re: [Talk-cz] Hotel Praha
On 2015-06-04, 10:34 GMT, Marián Kyral wrote: http://www.lidovky.cz/jak-mizel-kellneruv-hotel-praha-podivejte-se-na- fotografie-paf-/zpravy-domov.aspx?c=A140607_173219_ln_domov_sk http://cs.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hotel_Praha Zaznamenal, že něco takového plánují. Ach jo. A to se furt vytahuji jak odstamtud pocházím. D'oh! Ale jinak ať už jsou důvody jakékoli (teď mi moje matka, jako obyčejně lépe informovaná o drbech, dodávala, že pan Kellner bydlí někde vedle a hlavní důvod byl aby měl hezký výhled na Prahu), tak bych na tomto místě rád panu Kellnerovi poděkoval. Ta obludnost byla příšerná. A škodolibě musím poznamenat cosi o rychlosti updatů u Google Maps (a zastaralosti leteckých snímků všude). Hezký den, a jdu si hrabat noru, Matěj -- http://www.ceplovi.cz/matej/, Jabber: mceplatceplovi.cz GPG Finger: 89EF 4BC6 288A BF43 1BAB 25C3 E09F EF25 D964 84AC Basically, the only “intuitive” interface is the nipple. After that, it's all learned. -- Bruce Ediger when discussing intuivity of Mac OS http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.next.advocacy\ /msg/7fa8c580900353d0 ___ Talk-cz mailing list Talk-cz@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-cz
Re: [Talk-us] National Forest nature_reserve?
stevea stevea...@softworkers.com writes: I tag landuse=forest on National Forests. If there are any included wilderness areas, I tag them leisure=nature_reserve. Sometimes these boundaries can be quite complex via multipolygons, but I try to keep it as simple as this, and I seldom get people arguing with these tagging conventions. That seems mostly reasonable, but there are a few subtleties: wilderness, if it means what I think, means no numan activity is permitted except for hiking and leave-no-trace camping, more or less. So that is not landuse=forest (forestry), it's landuse=conservation. if there is wilderness that people are not permitted to enter at all, then it's still landuse=conservation (and access=no), but it's not leisure=nature_reserve. leisure=nature_reserve is only for areas where hiking/etc. is allowed/encouraged and for which the primary purpose is to preserve the land in a natural state. Around me there are smallish chunks of land (not big enough to use the wilderness word, maybe 10 acres) that people aren't allowed to go onto, and many others they are. I've tagged the non-use ones as just landuse=conservation. Often they are owned by a trust or have a conservation easement, but there's no special federal/etc. status. So boundary=protected_area feels off (but I haven't slogged through the definitions!). boundary=protected_area to delineate that some things are prohibited within the boundary is ok (although if one is trying to describe the interior rather than the boundary, I still think it's semantically broken, but that's really a quibble about using the word boundary). However, I think most every bit of land, eventually, should have a landuse= tag, and that the landuse values should have some sort of mutually exclusive and jointly exhaustive coverage. The last point is partly about consistency and ease of data interpretation. having landuse on everything means that if you care about landuse you can just read it. Otherwise you have to know about all the various boundary=protected_area subcases and infer what the landuse is. pgpkFglCU9ITb.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Things you can do with the GSGS Maps - Lake Names!
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/06/15 01:12, moltonel 3x Combo wrote: I've played this game in Mayo tonight, although I altered the query to select even named lakes so that I could add the water=* tag. About a month ago I did a bit of a cheeky mass-tag adding (e.g. http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/31105704 and some surrounding changesets), whereby I used Overpass to find all natural=water with Lough in the name that didn't have a water tag and I added the water=lake tag. :) While at it, there's a lot of lakes created with scanaerial that can do with manual fixing. Yes. Many objects are old when there was only Landsat aerial imagery. I was hoping that people would do the geometry fix up anyway. I use JOSM's filter feature ( https://www.mapbox.com/blog/2012-08-15-using-filters-josm/ ), with the query name=* and water=* to hide lakes that I've already named. I prefer to use the josm todo plugin, because it pans, zooms, and selects for you with just one click : Wow! I never knew about that plugin, and I was hoping there was something like that. Thanks! Rory -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1 iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJVcDPkAAoJEOrWdmeZivv2BQQH/28epWOsDK3TUCdGiLsZrFrs usHeu3GslVDq8rj/M2xIbZ5mUS1gF7XWxyn0T33uCP1F/IsZMtYDZNq2ntqjPwhs 0eudF+PNADmU+ceSmsSOyiBCBo5/tnfDOHwmxx4+12u8/UI1EY0lWr5tiSSodtET LMKKWc6drs517JhyrM4e2g5sOStQLr/mDLhuF0DQla0HdFXU0aU+X4j1nFMT+Sdk keHjdk0XgedqXNn17ata+8eVB5QRnAztDGonGjfCxHb02suTRXoee7LEWzUOi/gp bp5Vx1L8hL1BMHqx4cG+VgZoTR26ZgxhiBTFfoGwcLLETW2Q9hXbjhAYPuxq7hs= =tMTq -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Talk-ie mailing list Talk-ie@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ie
Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Things you can do with the GSGS Maps - Lake Names!
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/06/15 01:18, moltonel 3x Combo wrote: On 03/06/2015, Killyfole and District Development Association webmas...@killyfole.org.uk wrote: Is this something could be made into a Map Roulette task (http://maproulette.org/)? There are a lot of unfixables (no GSGS map for the area yet, or no name for that particular lake), and I'm not sure how easy it is to display GSGS on maproulette. I fear setting up maproulette would be more bother than it's worth. MapRoulette could be one way to go. You don't need to set up your own instance, merely upload tasks to the existing hosted version. MR has the option to pass on a task that is undoable. However we'd have to explain to people how to get and read the maps. Knowledge of Irish placenames is very helpful for reading the old maps. We have enough trouble with Germans thinking our tertiary roads are dirt paths, without having to explain how to read Lough Derreenadavonia of a bad scan from 100 years ago. :) Rory -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1 iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJVcDSyAAoJEOrWdmeZivv23WUH/io8HIjBidZrmBrIEw63bWRQ tuNT43/KMGSyOzbf+vXwgsRoGgqFBgnlT198pCKx+9odz0nFaEH68rYLY+7cCmHd UPGABXFIW7/8lpg4oUwVsWh24lqw67pV+deSWCYEPHRFFF1+5RZB871AJgIcf6ia YC5AVQ9OKjXPHxGYR8E8dGz9h1DoXGyZ7d8NBrDExmf5EBqGr1d6Q1tIqWT33IaX nEDwqX5E7e0f7z0ntg8A9QnPpPRXxIPMNi9iK2wpXSKgSbb24Tt/qcOpshBn7Rti oYuvSRUXN1sVwyJRM1OoSVBRW4jP9/XoPQXYWz5tIezivM5scSK59jDxK/t4kaA= =QnPO -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Talk-ie mailing list Talk-ie@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ie
[Talk-dk] Ruteplanlægger
Hej Er der nogen, som kender en webbaseret (cykel-)ruteplanlægger baseret på OSM? Og som kan generere en en fil med ruten til en navigator. Der er flere, men de virker ikke så godt. John ___ Talk-dk mailing list Talk-dk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-dk
[Talk-it] Civici senza addr:street
C'è qualcosa che mi sfugge sulla gestione di Nominatim ed addr. Navigando su OSM inspector [1] ho visto che un changeset [2] sulla la cittadina di Castelfranco Veneto produce parecchi warning di tipo No addr:street tag. Uno delle centinaia di segnalazioni del changeset riguarda il nodo 1998593312 caratterizzato solo dai tag addr:city Castelfranco Veneto addr:countryIT addr:housenumber110 Ho provato a ricercarlo inserendo in Nominatim anche il nome di una via vicino: borgo padova 110, castelfranco veneto e lo trova. Come fa Nominatim a trovare comunque il civico? E poi, tenendo conto che: - spesso i dati istituzionali dei civici da importare sono leggermente diversi dagli highway:name già presenti in OSM (magari solo per una maiuscolo, un trattino, un numero romano o un nome proprio sottointeso) questo comporta la spiacevole esperienza di non trovare un indirizzo importato, - si è appena iniziato ad importare in FVG 43 indirizzi, - la ricerca funziona con i soli tre tag sopracitati, perchè non limitare i tag addr:city,housenumber? [1] http://tinyurl.com/pu4jzge [2] http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/29666528 - -- cascafico.altervista.org twitter.com/cascafico -- View this message in context: http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/Civici-senza-addr-street-tp5847083.html Sent from the Italy General mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [OSM-talk] SOTM-US: directions please
You're welcome! Another word of advice/tip for NYC Subway first timers, in many stations you have to choose the entrance depending on which direction you are going (many of them don't have a mezzanine or distribution passages). For example, if you are in Manhattan and going Southbound/Downtown/Brooklyn/etc. you use the entrances on the west sidewalk of that street, if you are going Northbound/Harlem/Bronx you will use the entrances on the opposite side of the street. Knowing this and which train is the local and the express in any given line can save you a lot of time. Cheers, Julio Costa Zambelli Fundación OpenStreetMap Chile julio.co...@openstreetmap.cl http://www.openstreetmap.cl/ Cel: +56(9)89981083 On 4 June 2015 at 15:38, Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk wrote: On 4 June 2015 at 18:48, Julio Costa Zambelli julio.co...@openstreetmap.cl wrote: subway Brilliantly detailed; just what I was looking for. Thank you. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [Talk-cz] RÚIAN, Doplňkové soubory SO bez č.p./č.ev.
Dobrý večer, děkuji, nevěděl jsem a už stahuji. Jestli tomu správně rozumím, tak v případě, že si databázi stále udržuji pomocí změnových souborů, tak by mi mělo stačit nahrát si tyto doplňkové soubory pouze jednou. Případné změny v obsahu těchto dat budou zahrnuty ve změnových souborech. Chápu správně? Díky. -- Zdraví Petr Vejsada Dne Čt 4. června 2015 22:01:50, Petr Souček napsal(a): Dobrý večer, možná jste zaznamenali, že na základě vašich připomínek jsme zveřejnili doplněk k výměnnému formátu RÚIAN. V části Doplňkové soubory SO bez č.p./č.ev. jsou vystaveny měsíční stavové soubory VFR, které doplňují standardní stavové soubory o specifické stavební objekty a parcely, které nejsou standardně jejich součástí. Zveřejněno 1.6.2015 Doplňkové soubory SO bez č.p./č.ev. Pro uživatele VFR jsou k dispozici dva doplňkové měsíční stavové soubory se stavebními objekty (SO) a parcelami. * Soubor MMDD_ST_SO3PGP obsahuje SO bez č.p./č.ev. (typu 3) s identifikační parcelou z potvrzeného geometrického plánu, tzv. budoucího stavu, kdy parcela ještě není zplatněna v ISKN, * Soubor MMDD_ST_SO3PM obsahuje SO bez č.p./č.ev. (typu 3) s identifikační parcelou v minulosti (zrušená parcela). Tyto SO jsou obsahem změnového VFR, ale již se nedostanou do stavového VFR. Nahráním doplňujících souborů dojde ke konzistenci v obsahu stavových a změnových souborů VFR. SO neobsahují polygony, parcely neobsahují polygony ani definiční body. Soubory ke stažení http://data.cuzk.cz/vfr-doplnek - http://data.cuzk.cz/vfr-doplnek/ viz http://www.cuzk.cz/Uvod/Produkty-a-sluzby/RUIAN/2-Poskytovani-udaju-RUIAN-IS UI-VDP/Vymenny-format-RUIAN/Vymenny-format-RUIAN-%28VFR%29.aspx Mějte se prima Petr Souček ___ Talk-cz mailing list Talk-cz@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-cz
Re: [OSM-talk] SOTM-US: directions please
Grate advice Julio, other option --staying there-- is use navigation capabilities of OsmAnd mobile app. El jun. 4, 2015 12:53 PM, Julio Costa Zambelli julio.co...@openstreetmap.cl escribió: Andy, I am a frugal traveller so I have always used the subway to/from JFK. From any Airport terminal you take the Airtrain to Howard Beach (NOT Jamaica), once there you only have A trains and you have to take one towards Manhattan. You get off the train in the 14th Street station (it should be a long trip, a little longer if its late night since the train will stop at every station at that time of the day). From the station you walk a few meters south to Jackson Square and then left (East) on West 13th Street (on the Starbucks according to our map: http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=18/40.73925/-74.00224) until you cross 7th Avenue. To get to the UN Headquarters probably the easiest way is to walk to the Union Square Station (three blocks away to the East) take the train 4 or 5 (Express) towards Bronx and get off the train in Grand Central 42nd Street station and walk a few blocks East (until you reach the river ;) If you combine http://web.mta.info/maps/submap.html and OSM it should be quite easy. I do it that way every time. Cheers, Julio Costa Zambelli Fundación OpenStreetMap Chile julio.co...@openstreetmap.cl http://www.openstreetmap.cl/ Cel: +56(9)89981083 On 4 June 2015 at 13:58, Nick Whitelegg nick.whitel...@solent.ac.uk wrote: Well I visited New York in 2004 and then the choice was either a shuttle bus (which drops you off somewhere near Grand Central) or the monorail to an A train subway station which would take you into Manhattan. Once you're in Manhattan I guess you can just use an OSM map ;-) Obviously things might have changed now... Nick From: Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk Sent: 04 June 2015 16:38 To: osmf-t...@openstreetmap.org Subject: [OSM-talk] SOTM-US: directions please Ironic, given our subject of interest... I've searched online, but found no directions from JFK to the New Shool's 13th Street Residence, nor walking directions from there to the UN building. Could someone oblige, please? -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Rencontres Decryptageo la semaine prochaine
Je participe à une table ronde. Je serai donc présent durant ces 2 jours et je tiendrai le stand en dehors de me périodes de sollicitation. - Tony EMERY Administrateur OpenStreetMap.fr Mandataire Grand Sud-Est Géomaticien chef de projets -- View this message in context: http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/Rencontres-Decryptageo-la-semaine-prochaine-tp5846995p5847089.html Sent from the France mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [Talk-it] Civici senza addr:street
Un tempo usava le relazioni street. Credo però che da un po' si limiti alla strada più vicina. Ciao, Simone Il giorno 4 giugno 2015 15:02, Aury88 spacedrive...@gmail.com ha scritto: per me ci sono due possibili spiegazioni: fa un interpolazione con i numeri civici che ci sono oppure associa alla via più vicina il numero civico senza tag addr:street - Ciao, Aury -- View this message in context: http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/Civici-senza-addr-street-tp5847083p5847086.html Sent from the Italy General mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] OSMIT 2015
Buongiorno! Come prospettato, abbiamo la partnership del Comune di Siena. Organizziamo l'hangout, per cominciare a fissare qualche punto sull'organizzazione? Ho creato un doodle con un po' di date per la prossima settimana: http://doodle.com/rnnu99e2s9zzvxwt Il giorno 29 maggio 2015 16:47, Maurizio Napolitano napoo...@gmail.com ha scritto: boh, all'estero mi sembra ci sia più movimento. ti faccio alcuni esempi: - non esistono appuntamenti locali continui, ci abbiamo provato in diversi posti ma alla fine è sempre finito tutto - ci sono pochissimi eventi di mappatura, abbiamo un numero abbastanza alto di mappatori ma nessun è interessato nell'organizzare eventi non abbiamo la percezione esatta di quanti sono i vari stammtisch che fanno sull'asse tedesco, la mia percezione però è che ci siano sempre più eventi che ruotano intorno ad osm Secondo me ci sarà un numero analogo a quello di Rovereto (intorno al 100) con una percentuale bassa dei soliti nomi (se liberi), un gruppo di osmers del posto ed un gruppo di persone esterne interessate all'evento. e più o meno come a padova, torino e genova ;-) IMHO: trento20-30 genova non ho idea: non sono potuto andare padova 60-70 torino 40-50 rovereto 70-80 matera 20-30 se ripenso al primo evento eravamo molti meno ma molto più affiatati, tutti mappers da molte parti d'italia. secondo me anche Padova e Rovereto sono stati interessanti. Genova non c'ero, ma ricordo di aver avuto feedback positivi Concordo. Partendo ora però questo questo vuol dire che si va a novembre inoltrato (se va bene) oppure ad inizio 2016. qualcuno ci corre dietro? facciamolo anche a dicembre, se non vogliamo fare il mapping party non ci sono problemi ;-) anzi a dicembre non ci sono eventi importanti (vado un po' a memoria) solitamente a dicembre la disponibilità di date libere si riduce drasticamente a causa delle festività 100 è il numero a cui si stava tendendo con l'evento di Rovereto e dopo che l'evento è stato gestito come single event e non parallel event. cosa intendi come parallel event? i casi come Matera e Torino Matera = in quelle date c'erano diversi eventi nella città Torino = è stato fatto in coda al gfoss day sperando di recuperare persone da gfoss.it, ma il l'insieme comune fra gfoss.it e osm era praticamente lo stesso numero che si vedeva nelle precedenti edizioni. Ammetto che ho messo fuori dal totale le due classi che sono venute al mattino. ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it -- *Michele Mondelli* ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [OSM-talk-be] SPW PICC 2000 map on JOSM
Hi Erik,
This licence applies to the visualization service :
http://geoportail.wallonie.be/files/LicServicesSPW.pdf
The text is quite uncomprehensible. I had a discussion with them that it
is not forbidden if you copy that on a map and mix with other data (what
we do in OSM).
Julien
Le 29/05/15 21:21, Erik Beerten a écrit :
Hello,
I am Flemish but regularly mapping things in the south of Belgium.
To be clear, is it correct that all map data on the Walloon PICC 2000
(including the shape of the buildings) are free for copying to OSM?
PICC is about the same as the Flemish AGIV GRB map but the building
shapes on that map may not be copied.
Regards,
Erik
Op 23-05-15 om 18:14 schreef André Pirard:
On 2015-05-15 15:13, Nicolas Pettiaux wrote :
Dear all,
I want to learn how to use JOSM and benefit from your work, and use
the belgian settings whatever this is that as I suppose simplify
the tasks.
...
Bon maintenant,
Regarding the Belgian settings, I have mentioned before that JOSM
requires WMS EPSG:4326/3857 and reported to SPW in 2010 and here later
that the best WA server, which was the PICC server, returned blank
4326 tiles. It even contained many WMS configuration errors such that
JOSM failed to configure it automatically. There have been no
follow-ups to those comments, just that they are not interesting.
I have lately discovered purely by chance that the PICC bugs are now
corrected. It's possible to configure it with JOSM.
The optimized PICC configuration can be installed with:
JOSMImageryImagery PreferencesRefresh
JOSMImageryImagery Preferencesselect BE|SPW(allonie) PICC 2000
numerical imageryActivate
You may want to remove layer 49 to prevent redundant street names
obscuring the highways:
In ...Selected entries:SPW(allonie) PICC...double-click column 2,
edit 49, out, return ... OK
Place names are in layers 56-60.
The maximum zoom is 21.
I have filed a request that JOSM scaled the images above that zoom.
This will be done in June (JOSM guys are really great!). While waiting:
JOSMWindowsLayersright-click SPW...PICC...turn OFF: Automatically
change resolution
JOSMView/Jump to Positionmap=21... or zoom=5 metres
(repeat each time the layer is added)
That PICC data is old (2000 I think, missing houses etc.).
I wish the more recent BASE imagery were available for JOSM.
But these do not support WMS EPSG:4326/3857 (;-) ).
PICC has a wonderful 25 cm precision.
May I recall that (airplane) *aerial **photographs are a pitfall* !!!
What you see of houses is rooftops. What must be tagged is ground
level walls.
Due to a varying shooting angle, the roofs are offset from the ground
polygon.
The offset can be as high as 2, 3, 4... meters, roughly 10 times the
precision.
The wall images are not vertical, you can see them often as a black
surface.
What must be tagged is the far end of that surface.
And the other end of the roof must be chopped by the same width.
PICC does all that calculation for you, you will notice it.
It sometimes looks like it is wrongly offset, but look twice, it is
right most of the time.
You will see that by comparing it with other tagging.
With http:...WMS...transparent=yes, use a dark gray JOSM background:
Add file ~/.josm/MyCSS.css containing:
canvas { background-color: #404040; }
and use it with:
OSMEditPreferencesMap Settings (3)Map Paint
Styles+~/.josm/MyCSS.css ... OK
OSMWindowsMap Paint Stylesselect MyCSS
Here is a sample of what PICC will look like on JOSM
http://geoservices.wallonie.be/arcgis/services/TOPOGRAPHIE/PICC/MapServer/WmsServer?SERVICE=WMSVERSION=1.1.1FORMAT=image/png8TRANSPARENT=falsebgcolor=404040REQUEST=GetMapSTYLES=SRS=EPSG:3857WIDTH=3000HEIGHT=1000BBOX=626381.8743881,6539659.6002846,627352.0063567,6539982.9776075LAYERS=0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20,21,22,23,24,25,26,27,28,29,30,31,32,33,34,35,36,37,38,39,40,41,42,43,44,45,46,47,48,49,50,51,52,53,54,55,56,57,58,59,60.
(with vector OSM on top and aerial orthos seeing through!)
Enjoy.
Cheers
André.
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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Things you can do with the GSGS Maps - Lake Names!
Very true! and its not just Germans at that carry on! On Thursday 04 Jun 2015 13:21:22 Rory McCann wrote: We have enough trouble with Germans thinking our tertiary roads are dirt paths, without having to explain how to read Lough Derreenadavonia of a bad scan from 100 years ago. ___ Talk-ie mailing list Talk-ie@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ie
Re: [Talk-GB] OS Open Names
Hi Chris, Chris Hill wrote: I've been looking at OS Open Names I've also had a look at Open Names, but looking at everything except roads and postcodes. My conclusion was that it is not a useful replacement for the old 1:50k gazetteer because it doesn't contain names for any natural features. On the other hand, the new Open Map Local does include names for those features. So I think one could create a more useful gazetteer by extracting just the names from that map. And of potential interest here, road names extracted from the map can include multiple segments and non-straight-line geometry (which I don't think Open Names has). In other respects I find Open Map Local inferior to the old Street View map, e.g. its important buildings are very oddly chosen. I think the best thing in this latest release is the simplified license. Cheers, Phil. ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-it] Civici senza addr:street
per me ci sono due possibili spiegazioni: fa un interpolazione con i numeri civici che ci sono oppure associa alla via più vicina il numero civico senza tag addr:street - Ciao, Aury -- View this message in context: http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/Civici-senza-addr-street-tp5847083p5847086.html Sent from the Italy General mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] comment taguer des panneaux biche (dot com) / animaux sauvages
Ce que je veux dire c'est que la référence A15b a peu de chance de correspondre avec un autre panneau que http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6a/France_road_sign_A15b.svg http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6a/France_road_sign_A15b.svg Donc la bête sera forcément la même si on cherche ce panneau A15b où que l'on soit dans le monde. - Tony EMERY Administrateur OpenStreetMap.fr Mandataire Grand Sud-Est Géomaticien chef de projets -- View this message in context: http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/comment-taguer-des-panneaux-biche-dot-com-animaux-sauvages-tp5846720p5847088.html Sent from the France mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] comment taguer des panneaux biche (dot com) / animaux sauvages
Sauf que A15b n'existe sûrement pas partout dans le monde, alors que sa signification elle, elle est universelle. Une approche trop technique des choses me semble contre productive. Beaucoup de contributeurs ne connaissent pas ce type A15b, d'ailleurs A15b.com est quand même moins parlant que panneauxbiche.com... non ? Le 04/06/2015 15:11, Tony Emery a écrit : Ce que je veux dire c'est que la référence A15b a peu de chance de correspondre avec un autre panneau que http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6a/France_road_sign_A15b.svg http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6a/France_road_sign_A15b.svg Donc la bête sera forcément la même si on cherche ce panneau A15b où que l'on soit dans le monde. - Tony EMERY Administrateur OpenStreetMap.fr Mandataire Grand Sud-Est Géomaticien chef de projets -- View this message in context: http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/comment-taguer-des-panneaux-biche-dot-com-animaux-sauvages-tp5846720p5847088.html Sent from the France mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr -- Christian Quest - OpenStreetMap France ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] comment taguer des panneaux biche (dot com) / animaux sauvages
Mais je pense qu'un Australien aura plus de facilité à comprendre et traiter un hazard=wild_animals qu'un ref:panneau:EU=A15b… Et nous, on aura moins de mal à comprendre leur hazard=wild_animals que s'ils tagguent le ref du panneau à kangourou ? Le 04/06/2015 15:11, Tony Emery a écrit : Ce que je veux dire c'est que la référence A15b a peu de chance de correspondre avec un autre panneau que http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6a/France_road_sign_A15b.svg http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6a/France_road_sign_A15b.svg Donc la bête sera forcément la même si on cherche ce panneau A15b où que l'on soit dans le monde. ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] SeFaireConnaitre :(
Je trouve également des doublons et points placés un peu n'importe où : https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/31711287 https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/31715438 https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/3563669793 Il semblerait effectivement que les points sont replacés dans un second temps. Le 3 juin 2015 11:02, Stéphane Péneau stephane.pen...@wanadoo.fr a écrit : J'ai presque le même avis. On peut reprocher la procédure (plusieurs changeset pour un même point), mais pas le résultat, qui est bien meilleur que ce qu'ils ont fait dans le passé. Il y a du progrès, et donc, je suppose, un minimum d'écoute sur les retours de la communauté. Le gros souci est qu'ils sont muets. Stf Le 03/06/2015 10:51, Bruno Cortial a écrit : Bonjour, On peut dejà se faire une idée globale avec ce genre de requete. http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/9IN Si la question est de supprimer massivement les points du contributeur SeFaireConnaitre, je m'y oppose (et j'ai pas d'action là-dedans). Si son process est réellement automatisé, il ne faudra pas longtemps avant que les points repopent Je demanderai plutôt un blocage temporaire du compte afin qu'il réagisse... Bruno Le 3 juin 2015 09:48, Pierre-Yves Berrard pierre.yves.berr...@gmail.com a écrit : La difficulté est qu'il y a un changeset par POI, donc autant de reverts. 2015-06-03 9:34 GMT+02:00 Tony Emery tony.em...@yahoo.fr: Du coup, qui s'occupe du Revert ? - Tony EMERY Administrateur OpenStreetMap.fr Mandataire Grand Sud-Est Géomaticien chef de projets -- View this message in context: http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/SeFaireConnaitre-tp5846293p5846908.html Sent from the France mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr ___ Talk-fr mailing listTalk-fr@openstreetmap.orghttps://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [Talk-dk] Ruteplanlægger
http://cyclistic.dk/da/ Torsdag den 4. juni 2015 14:25:46 skrev John Plate: Hej Er der nogen, som kender en webbaseret (cykel-)ruteplanlægger baseret på OSM? Og som kan generere en en fil med ruten til en navigator. Der er flere, men de virker ikke så godt. John ___ Talk-dk mailing list Talk-dk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-dk ___ Talk-dk mailing list Talk-dk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-dk
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] comment taguer des panneaux biche (dot com) / animaux sauvages
Je pense que vous avez tous les deux raison : -la référence du panneau exact est importante si on la connait : traffic_sign=FR:A15b -un tag plus générique est le bienvenu pour détailler hazard=wild_animals. D'où ma proposition d'utiliser* wild_animal=yes *et *domestic_animal=yes* en complément Est-ce que cela réconcilie tout le monde ? Le 4 juin 2015 15:22, JB jb...@mailoo.org a écrit : Mais je pense qu'un Australien aura plus de facilité à comprendre et traiter un hazard=wild_animals qu'un ref:panneau:EU=A15b… Et nous, on aura moins de mal à comprendre leur hazard=wild_animals que s'ils tagguent le ref du panneau à kangourou ? Le 04/06/2015 15:11, Tony Emery a écrit : Ce que je veux dire c'est que la référence A15b a peu de chance de correspondre avec un autre panneau que http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6a/France_road_sign_A15b.svg http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6a/France_road_sign_A15b.svg Donc la bête sera forcément la même si on cherche ce panneau A15b où que l'on soit dans le monde. ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr -- *Florian Lainez* @overflorian http://twitter.com/overflorian ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
