Re: beta/47
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Dear Yuki san, --- Yuki Taga / Dienstag 12.03.2002, 10:30:54 beta/47 EC -a- PowerArchiver 2001 at http://www.powerarchiver.com/ and EC -b- Ontrack's PowerDesk at http://www.ontrack.com/ Yes, and if they upload self-extracting archives, the whole thing becomes moot. Nobody has to download anything except the beta. Ever. I confess having an archived file is much more convenient for me. I have three different Versions of TB!.exe files in the same directory. Using the Archived files I can easily extract them and rename it before putting them to the Program Folder. Also I think that in these days every 'Standard' configured System has a good Archive Tool. As a last argument for Archiving files is that .exe files could carry unwanted codes where archived files are not executables and so a better security. I know a lot of people who will never accept anything except archived files. Have a nice day. - -- best regards Eddie Powered by The Bat! v1.54 Beta/42 under Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 PGP (public) key available: www.EddieCastelli.com/pgpkey/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8ckt (Build/06) iQA/AwUBPI3B7K4/ZNbAL0NqEQL+bgCcDHFcQWKIx7BadLhrsd/dKHR/Kp8AoM4h Th+NqcJM3Khr6mhb/bGg/jLI =C+jA -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Wish List : https://bt.ritlabs.com/ BugTraq: https://bt.ritlabs.com/
Re[2]: Beta/47 re-uploaded
Hello Krzysztof, On Tuesday, March 12, 2002, 8:05:23 AM, you wrote: On 02-03-11, 22:24, you wrote: The correct executable has been re-uploaded as http://www.ritlabs.com/ftp/pub/the_bat/beta/tb154b47a.rar Hmmm ... maybe thi one: http://www.ritlabs.com/ftp/pub/the_bat/beta/tb154b47b.rar That seems to fix the Help | Version problem. Now displaying Beta 47 as it should be. -- Best regards, Leslie -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Wish List : https://bt.ritlabs.com/ BugTraq: https://bt.ritlabs.com/
Re: Adding Names to the FROM-Field list
Hello Wolfgang, On Tuesday, March 12, 2002 at 1:22:42 AM you wrote in msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (at least in part): W Sometimes I want to use Wolfgang Reszel [EMAIL PROTECTED] W instead of Wolfgang [EMAIL PROTECTED] in the FROM-Field. W The list shows only the Names of the accounts, not the last entered W Names. Any solutions? As long as this happens only occasionally you can simply enter additionally 'Reszel' into 'From'. It's a simply edit field with the additionally option of a dropdown. If you decide to use the second name more often you can easily create a quick template with content %From=Wolfgang Reszel [EMAIL PROTECTED]%- and name it e.g. 'full_from'. This way you'll only have to type in 'full_from' (without ') into the message you're about to create and hit Ctrl+Space. HTH Pit -- Regards Peter Palmreuthermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (The Bat! v1.54 Beta/47 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2) He's got all the sex appeal of a wet paper bag. -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Wish List : https://bt.ritlabs.com/ BugTraq: https://bt.ritlabs.com/
Archives...
Eddie Castelli wrote: As a last argument for Archiving files is that .exe files could carry unwanted codes where archived files are not executables and so a better security. I know a lot of people who will never accept anything except archived files. IMHO there is three possibilities: 1) Compress exe by tools like PECompact which uncompress executables on-the-fly. I this case it will nothing to do except cnanging one *.exe by another. 2) Use installer (maybe Nullsoft one) 3) Simply put unrar.exe (or link) with instructions in beta dir. In last case it will be good to sign archive. Best regards, Sergey. P.S. I am not using TB! since sysadmin simply makes registry in my profile read only :-). It is somewhat stupid (and produces some glitches like absence of default printer..:-). But...Opera, Netscape, MS Office works...TheBat! - not :-(. -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Wish List : https://bt.ritlabs.com/ BugTraq: https://bt.ritlabs.com/
Re: beta/47
Hello Maxim, 11. marca 2002, 20:22:21, you wrote: MM beta/47 will be packed with RAR 3.0. This makes the file 400KB MM smaller, but unextractable by RAR 2.x. AFAIK, this is not exact: Cut-- RAR 3.0 archives can be unpacked by any RAR version beginning from RAR 2.9, currently it is 2.9 and 3.0. RAR 3.0 can unpack archives created by all older RAR versions. Cut-- See: http://www.rarsoft.com/rar/WhatsNew.txt Best regards,Jano Skokanek mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Wish List : https://bt.ritlabs.com/ BugTraq: https://bt.ritlabs.com/
Archive formats: (WAS: Re: beta/47)
Hi Eddie, Tuesday, March 12, 2002, 6:52:53 PM, you wrote: Yes, and if they upload self-extracting archives, the whole thing becomes moot. Nobody has to download anything except the beta. Ever. EC I confess having an archived file is much more convenient for me. EC I have three different Versions of TB!.exe files in the same EC directory. Using the Archived files I can easily extract them and EC rename it before putting them to the Program Folder. With all due respect, I don't think you understand this, Eddie. A self-extracting archive is still an archive. You can store it, re-name it, do anything to it that you can to to any other archive, including archive it inside another archive, if you want. But it has an .exe file extension, rather than .zip, .rar, or dot-anything. And when you double click it, you can extract it to anywhere you want. That is really the ONLY difference, other than the fact that the self-extracting format has an overhead of a few bytes compared to the original file. I don't see one bit of functionality that you gain from having an archive that relies on an underlying program to open and extract its contents, as opposed to a self-extracting archive, that needs no underlying program, period. Do you, now, after reading this? Best, Yuki mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Wish List : https://bt.ritlabs.com/ BugTraq: https://bt.ritlabs.com/
Re: Re-direct Behavior
Hello Richard, On Tuesday, March 12, 2002 at 12:40:53 AM you wrote in msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (at least in part): O Still I do not think that TheBat! should use this ReplyTo when O redirecting. RMNOf course it should not use your ReplyTo. That's a philosophical question :-) I do in fact understand your both POV, nevertheless I don't know if this can be answered this easy. You explicitly told TB! to use a 'Reply-To' address by entering it into account properties. And 'Redirect' is not a 'fake e-mail and pretend this is coming from somebody else' function, it's an easy way to forward an e-mail to a third party leaving it at most intact. If there is an original 'Reply-To' header it will be taken, so message will not be altered in this matter. So you see: there are other points of view and they are not false 'by default' ... Which behavior is the correct one I don't want to decide, there are too much consequences to have an eye on :-) BTW: having set a 'Reply-To' identical to the 'From' does not make sense at all, regardless if you're redirecting or 'normal sending', so in most cases it ain't necessary to even fill this field out. And I'd prefer if RIT would not automatically fill it out if I enter or change some data in 'From' :-/ -- Regards Peter Palmreuthermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (The Bat! v1.54 Beta/47 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2) As Will Rogers would have said, There is no such things as a free variable. -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Wish List : https://bt.ritlabs.com/ BugTraq: https://bt.ritlabs.com/
Re: beta/47
Hello Eddie, There are 2 tools that work without problems: -a- PowerArchiver 2001 at http://www.powerarchiver.com/ and -b- Ontrack's PowerDesk at http://www.ontrack.com/ I use both of them but unfortunately none could open the latest beta compressed by RAR 3.x. Both programs showed a CRC-error. They will have to be updated by their programmers but obviously that has not been done yet. -- Regards, Daniel http://www.daniel-friedmann.de The Bat! 1.54 Beta/46, Windows 2000 Professional, Service Pack 2 -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Wish List : https://bt.ritlabs.com/ BugTraq: https://bt.ritlabs.com/
Re: To Rar or Not Rar
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, 12 Mar 2002 02:03:56 -0600, Dean [D] wrote these comments: ... D just a small compact thought. In saving bandwith, how much did we D save in discussing to Rar3 or Rar2;) I get the distinct impression that it's specifically the Ritlabs server bandwidth that they're concerned about and not just bandwidth in general. D Also noticed that in previous three or four betas I was able to click D on the To or CC field when in preview mode and I had an option of D posting to that person or... seems to have disappeared in 47. I did D like that option. Works here just fine. - -- Allie C Martin -- List Moderator and fellow end-user PGPKey - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=PGPPubKey1 [MUA: TB! v1.54 Beta/47 (*) OS: WinXP Home] ¯¯ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (MingW32) iEYEARECAAYFAjyN37gACgkQV8nrYCsHF+K8LQCfSJ19tpUe3BeGDEAQfJnOazNu IngAnjOEsfkFmKsXHlwtwcdBTFpMLp+G =/d4E -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Wish List : https://bt.ritlabs.com/ BugTraq: https://bt.ritlabs.com/
Re: To Rar or Not Rar
On Tue, 12 Mar 2002 11:31:44 +0200 Stefan Tanurkov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: D just a small compact thought. In saving bandwith, how much did we save in D discussing to Rar3 or Rar2;) In reality, it is about 200M bytes a day - I've just checked the Web site log :-) Not bad... I never download through web/http, always use ftp :-) Maybe later we can try *.tar.bz2 :-) -- syafril === Syafril Hermansyah[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Wish List : https://bt.ritlabs.com/ BugTraq: https://bt.ritlabs.com/
Re: beta/47
Hello Eddie! On Tuesday, March 12, 2002 at 10:52:53 AM you wrote: Also I think that in these days every 'Standard' configured System has a good Archive Tool. Right to the point. And nobody having a good archiving tool will be happy to get yet another one. The beta 47 archive is *not*, repeat *not* Standard! -- Dierk Haasis http://www.Write4U.de http://Interest.Write4U.de/pongo PGP keys available: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendMyPGPkeys The Bat 1.54 Beta/46 on Windows 95 4.0 1212 C Ernährung ist tödlich! Jeder, der sich lange genug ernährt, ist bislang gestorben. -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Wish List : https://bt.ritlabs.com/ BugTraq: https://bt.ritlabs.com/
Re: To Rar or Not Rar
Hello Syafril, On Tuesday, March 12, 2002 at 12:07:44 PM you wrote in msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (at least in part): SH Maybe later we can try *.tar.bz2 :-) You wont need '.tar' for packing a single .exe :-) *SCNR* :-) -- Regards Peter Palmreuthermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (The Bat! v1.54 Beta/47 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2) Always record your data; it indicates you have been doing something. -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Wish List : https://bt.ritlabs.com/ BugTraq: https://bt.ritlabs.com/
Re: beta/47 - compression
Hello Josef, 12. marec 2002, 1:32:27, you wrote: JK why don't you use winace when you're so happy about a few bytes? JK the compression ratio of ace is imo much better than any other packer JK can reach. It used to be till RAR3 came. Now RAR is better... -- Jernej Simoncic, [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www2.arnes.si/~sopjsimo/ ICQ: 26266467 [The Bat! v1.54 Beta/46 on Windows 98 4.10.. A ] Formation of a party signals the dissolution of the movement. -- Political Postulate -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Wish List : https://bt.ritlabs.com/ BugTraq: https://bt.ritlabs.com/
Re: beta/47
Hello Tony, 12. marec 2002, 0:00:56, you wrote: TB I'll agree with that. As soon as the 40 day trial period is up with TB this Winrar3 I'll be stuck with whatever version of TB is released TB when that time comes. Actually not, after 40 days are through, WinRAR will only pop up a dialog at startup, asking you to register. -- Jernej Simoncic, [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www2.arnes.si/~sopjsimo/ ICQ: 26266467 [The Bat! v1.54 Beta/46 on Windows 98 4.10.. A ] Things equal to nothing else are equal to each other. -- First Postulate of Isomurphism -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Wish List : https://bt.ritlabs.com/ BugTraq: https://bt.ritlabs.com/
Re: OT: WinRAR
Hello Joseph! On Monday, March 11, 2002 at 10:13:15 PM you wrote: WinRAR is an outstanding program that should not be dismissed out of hand. That's not the point. Most of us will have chosen a packer/unpacker long time ago. I gather no-one chose a programme that only supports one algorithm. My choice is a German application called Squeez, which is quite good. But I don't want anyone to use it just because I like it. When I have to pack a file I use a scheme that is widely supported - from ZIP to self-extracting. Would you like it to get a document in the latest Word format if you are still on WinWord 2.0 or even 97? -- Dierk Haasis http://www.Write4U.de http://Interest.Write4U.de/pongo PGP keys available: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendMyPGPkeys The Bat 1.54 Beta/46 on Windows 95 4.0 1212 C Respect Yourself. (Pops Staples) -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Wish List : https://bt.ritlabs.com/ BugTraq: https://bt.ritlabs.com/
Re: To Rar or Not Rar
Good afternoon List Members, on 12.03.2002 at 12:00, Allie C Martin wrote: I get the distinct impression that it's specifically the Ritlabs server bandwidth that they're concerned about and not just bandwidth in general. Which is important enough when you have to _pay_ for bandwidth. I have to pay $100-150 additional for bandwidth each month. Thus considerung to lower bandwidth is essential to save some money. -- Regards Dieter Hummel MUA: Ritlabs TheBat! 1.54 Beta/46 [2E7F60DA] OS: Windows v5.1 Build 2600 | Northwood P4/2.2G - Outgoing mail with possible attachments is found to be virus free - - Checked by AVP 4.0.1.54, using database update from Mar 08, 2002 - - All unannounced attachments will be automatically deleted by system - -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Wish List : https://bt.ritlabs.com/ BugTraq: https://bt.ritlabs.com/
Re: To Rar or Not Rar
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 @ 12:40:43 +0100 [ Tue, 12 Mar 2002], Dieter Hummel [DH] thoughtfully wrote the following: ... I get the distinct impression that it's specifically the Ritlabs server bandwidth that they're concerned about and not just bandwidth in general. DH Which is important enough when you have to _pay_ for bandwidth. DH I have to pay $100-150 additional for bandwidth each month. Thus DH considerung to lower bandwidth is essential to save some money. I have no problem with this as such. I just made the comment in light of so many complaining that Ritlabs is not saving *them* any bandwidth. Ritlabs is concerned about only *their own* bandwidth. This is why beta testers having to download another application to use the beta goes down OK for them. - -- Allie C Martin (_ List Moderator and fellow end user __) TB! v1.54 Beta/47 WinXP Home Ed. PGPKey: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=PGPPubKey1 ¯¯ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (MingW32) iEYEARECAAYFAjyN7L4ACgkQV8nrYCsHF+LF+gCgvLei72+LlO0I+rcbjBNVUrei 5CYAoLf5Mx7X9GCSAAogPkr5//YURMby =RZhD -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Wish List : https://bt.ritlabs.com/ BugTraq: https://bt.ritlabs.com/
a to b adds 200k
Hello TBBETA, Just out of curiosity, how many bytes does changing the version number take up? 154 beta47a = 4,652,032 bytes 154 beta47b = 4,839,424 bytes Does changing an a to a b take that many bytes or are there any other changes that have been slipped in? -- Best regards,Tony. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.54 Beta/47 S/N A27A5E65 Windows XP Pro 5.1 Build 2600 P4 1.7Ghz -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Wish List : https://bt.ritlabs.com/ BugTraq: https://bt.ritlabs.com/
Re: beta/47
Hello Nick, 12. marec 2002, 17:26:24, you wrote: NA Thanks Marck. Actually, I do like WinRar 3.0 and might just purchase the NA product. I'm kind of fooling around with it now, and it's compression NA ratio is fantastic. I am able to RAR up a few Folders I never seem to NA use much and am saving MB's of space on the paltry 2.1 GB HDD of mine. Before rushing, may I suggest you to test 7-zip http://www.7-zip.org/, which is excellent free packer, which achieves even greater compression ratio than WinRAR 3. If you don't look into great protection (I'm talking about protection when archive file itself is damaged - RAR is superior here), then 7z might be even better choice (The Bat! 1.54beta47b executable compressed with 7z and converted to self-extracting archive is still 80kB smaller than original RAR file. -- Jernej Simoncic, [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www2.arnes.si/~sopjsimo/ ICQ: 26266467 [The Bat! v1.54 Beta/46 on Windows 98 4.10.. A ] Any stone in your boot always migrates against the pressure gradient to exactly the point of most pressure. -- Barber's Second Law of Backpacking -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Wish List : https://bt.ritlabs.com/ BugTraq: https://bt.ritlabs.com/
test, is anybody seeing me ?
Am I invisible man? Have people killfiled me ? Is anybody seeing me ? -- George M. Menegakis, System Network Administration Using The BAT! v1.54 Beta/47 on Microsoft Windows 2000Service Pack 2 v5.0 Build(2195) -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Wish List : https://bt.ritlabs.com/ BugTraq: https://bt.ritlabs.com/
Re: a to b adds 200k
Hello Tony! 154 beta47a = 4,652,032 bytes 154 beta47b = 4,839,424 bytes Does changing an a to a b take that many bytes or are there any other changes that have been slipped in? I've tried to fix AV issue reported in beta47a by a few people. They've confirmed that the AVs have gone. -- Maxim Masiutin Vice President, Ritlabs S.R.L. http://www.ritlabs.com/ -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Wish List : https://bt.ritlabs.com/ BugTraq: https://bt.ritlabs.com/
Re: a to b adds 200k
Hello Tony, 12. marec 2002, 20:06:32, you wrote: TB 154 beta47a = 4,652,032 bytes TB 154 beta47b = 4,839,424 bytes Are you looking at the The Bat 1.54 beta47a version or SecureBat 1.54 beta47, which was accidentally posted first? -- Jernej Simoncic, [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www2.arnes.si/~sopjsimo/ ICQ: 26266467 [The Bat! v1.54 Beta/46 on Windows 98 4.10.. A ] When a person says that, in the interest of saving time, he will summarize his prepared statement, he will talk only three times as long as if he had read the statement in the first place. -- Otten's Law of Testimony -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Wish List : https://bt.ritlabs.com/ BugTraq: https://bt.ritlabs.com/
Re: test, is anybody seeing me ?
Hallo George, Op een dinsdag 12 maart 2002 om 20:24:43 schreef jij over test, is anybody seeing me ?: GMM Am I invisible man? Have people killfiled me ? Is anybody seeing me ? grin loud and clear! -- -=/ Cees /=- http://www.wpp.dynamic-site.net/ msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Male Language Pattern: You expect too much of me, REALLY MEANS, You want me to stay awake. __ The Bat! 1.54 Beta/47 [35099577], running on Windows XP 5.1 build 2600 -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Wish List : https://bt.ritlabs.com/ BugTraq: https://bt.ritlabs.com/
Re: Makes me wonder about beta testing cycles...
Hello Kenneth! On Tuesday, March 12, 2002 at 7:07:44 PM you wrote: However, if the company is so concerned about saving the bandwidth cost, then perhaps they should go private . . . Nothing against the pros and cons Maxxx and you mention or acknowledge. I just think that all in all public testing may not be as efficient as closed one, but more effective. Certain problems are - for every software/hardware - system dependent. Consider the memory leak for the RTV, it couldn't be detected, according to Alexander, within RITLabs because Win9x isn't used there. Chances are that a closed beta cycle would be held with computer versed people like Marck or Peter Palmreuther who work in computing using any colour of WinNT. Some years ago, when Opera was a very small company, they had public betas. Sometime around the 3.6 versions they decided to close beta testing leading to the infamous 4.x series. A few weeks ago they returned to public testing - although slightly enhanced through using their own news server. And Opera was very delighted about the results, in quality and quantity. A lot of bugs and glitches could be identified and worked out that couldn't have been found that easily in a closed circuit. As an example I just cite some printing difficulties with certain printers (all of the HP kind). My brandnew Kyocera laser printer has some very stupid glitches - like not being able to print correctly from CorelDraw. Some of them should have been found in closed betas (corrupt driver on CD, a software that works on some systems but not on others, very erratic), others are definitely an environmental problem, like the ability to work correctly with FinePrint or ClickBook.* Just my two cents. *BTW, if anyone has difficulties printing PDF's from Acrobat Reader, check Print as graphic. -- Dierk Haasis http://www.Write4U.de http://Interest.Write4U.de/pongo PGP keys available: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendMyPGPkeys The Bat 1.54 Beta/47 on Windows 95 4.0 1212 C Pray: To ask that the laws of the universe be annulled in behalf of a single petitioner confessedly unworthy. (Ambrose Bierce) -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Wish List : https://bt.ritlabs.com/ BugTraq: https://bt.ritlabs.com/
Re: test, is anybody seeing me ?
Hello George, On Tuesday, March 12, 2002 at 8:24:43 PM you wrote (at least in part): GMM Am I invisible man? Have people killfiled me ? Is anybody seeing me ? No. I don't see you. Well ... I see your mails, but you seems to be to far away for me being able to see you :-) -- Regards Peter Palmreuthermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (The Bat! v1.54 Beta/47 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 1) World War IV will be fought with stick and stones. - Albert Einstein -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Wish List : https://bt.ritlabs.com/ BugTraq: https://bt.ritlabs.com/
Re: a to b adds 200k
Hello Maxim, 12. marec 2002, 20:27:01, you wrote: MMI've tried to fix AV issue reported in beta47a by a few people. MMThey've confirmed that the AVs have gone. BTW: you can lower the executable size by about 180kB if you use StripReloc from http://www.jrsoftware.org/striprlc.php. -- Jernej Simoncic, [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www2.arnes.si/~sopjsimo/ ICQ: 26266467 [The Bat! v1.54 Beta/47 on Windows 98 4.10.. A ] Anytime you wish to demonstrate something, the number of faults is proportional to the number of viewers. -- Bye's First Law of Model Railroading -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Wish List : https://bt.ritlabs.com/ BugTraq: https://bt.ritlabs.com/
DEAD HORSE (was beta/47)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi TB Beta list, On 12 March 2002 at 20:12:40 +0100 (which was 19:12 where I live) Jernej Simoni wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Before rushing, may I suggest you to test 7-zip moderator This topic has gone way off / too long and I am forced to pronounce it dead. Please take it off-list or to TBOT. Thank you. /moderator - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- List moderator ___ \ Think clear ... think BrainStorm : http://www.brainstormsw.com / \ PGP Key ID: 0x929DCDA0 | www: http://www.silverstones.com / TB! v1.54 Beta/47-14F4B4B2 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (MingW32) iD8DBQE8jmAEOeQkq5KdzaARAojUAJ0bRwNHzwzvw9q7BhLgeU7UtN5hOACffdM+ h1imhK/CzG9sG6k1U6u0FQA= =8JfH -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Wish List : https://bt.ritlabs.com/ BugTraq: https://bt.ritlabs.com/
DEAD HORSE (was beta/47)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi TB Beta list, On 12 March 2002 at 19:00:24 + Tony Boom wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your not suggesting I carry on and use it illegally are you? moderator This topic has gone way off / too long and I am forced to pronounce it dead. Please take it off-list or to TBOT. Thank you. /moderator As for version 2 ... the main theory is that 1.54 is a precursor containing around 90% of the features slated for v2. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- List moderator ___ \ Turbocharge your brain: right here http://www.brainstormsw.com / \ PGP Key ID: 0x929DCDA0 | www: http://www.silverstones.com / TB! v1.54 Beta/47-14F4B4B2 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (MingW32) iD8DBQE8jmBJOeQkq5KdzaARAj5PAJ9jtkJ5TtkyyPDs42iAnSdh8K99KQCgpava XwlgjNO85xljVMakRv40/yQ= =HVfy -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Wish List : https://bt.ritlabs.com/ BugTraq: https://bt.ritlabs.com/
Re: Re-direct Behavior
Hei, Richard M. Newman wrote: Of course it should not use your ReplyTo. [x] you're right. And Peter not (sorry for that ;-)). IMHO. Of course. -- Regards, Günther ¤I$¤£¤ Automatic virus scanning with F-PROT, ROT13 and a list of changes in 1.54: http://www.guenther-eisele.de/bat/index_e.htm TheBat! 1.54 Beta/46, Windows 2000 5.0 -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Wish List : https://bt.ritlabs.com/ BugTraq: https://bt.ritlabs.com/
Re[2]: Makes me wonder about beta testing cycles...
Dear group, Tuesday, March 12, 2002, 7:10:23 PM, you wrote: However, if the company is so concerned about saving the bandwidth cost, then perhaps they should go private . . . snip DH Some years ago, when Opera was a very small company, they had public DH betas. Sometime around the 3.6 versions they decided to close beta DH testing leading to the infamous 4.x series. A few weeks ago they DH returned to public testing - although slightly enhanced through using DH their own news server. And Opera was very delighted about the results, DH in quality and quantity. A lot of bugs and glitches could be DH identified and worked out that couldn't have been found that easily in DH a closed circuit. As an example I just cite some printing difficulties DH with certain printers (all of the HP kind). snip Have to agree with this. I have been using the Opera 6.02 beta 1056 and have never seen Opera as a more usuable browser. Previously, Opera 6, IMO, was utterly useless because of a few small, but fundamental, glitches. I hope Ritlabs stick with public beta testing for the 1.x and 2.x versions of this wonderful email client. -- Best regards, Ben Briscoe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Wish List : https://bt.ritlabs.com/ BugTraq: https://bt.ritlabs.com/
Re: test, is anybody seeing me ?
This message: 12/03/2002 20:00 GMT. Hello George, A reminder of what George ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) typed on: 12 March 2002 at 21:24:43 GMT +0200 GMM Am I invisible man? Have people killfiled me ? Is anybody seeing me ? Who said that? -- Best regards,Tony. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.54 Beta/47 S/N A27A5E65 Windows XP Pro 5.1 Build 2600 P4 1.7Ghz -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Wish List : https://bt.ritlabs.com/ BugTraq: https://bt.ritlabs.com/
Re: test, is anybody seeing me ?
Hello George, Tuesday, March 12, 2002, 9:24:43 PM, you wrote: Am I invisible man? Have people killfiled me ? Is anybody seeing me ? For starters, can you see yourself? :) -- Best regards, Costasmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Wish List : https://bt.ritlabs.com/ BugTraq: https://bt.ritlabs.com/
Re: HTMLbug, or ?
* Oleg Polishchuk [Tuesday, March 12, 2002] wrote: * msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] OP Hello tbbeta, OP Try to look attached html, in beta 46 - (looks like in IE, correct) OP In b47 - something wrong(biger ?) Confirm ... Attached HTML in The-Bat! bigger then IE ... * Best regards ... -- ` _ , ' :: Linux Registered User [#168882] - (o)o) - :: The-Bat! 1.54 Beta/46 -ooO'(_)--Ooo :: Windows 98/4.10. A * #define QUESTION ((bb) || !(bb)) [Shakespeare] -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Wish List : https://bt.ritlabs.com/ BugTraq: https://bt.ritlabs.com/
