Re: still can't run TB on my desktop

2005-04-23 Thread Dwight A Corrin
On Tuesday, April 19, 2005, 5:27:07 PM, Stuart Cuddy wrote:

 You presuppose there's a bug that's causing your problem. Given
 that the problem is present from 3.0.1.33 through 3.0.9.17 it may
 well be something else in your configuration.

DAC I presuppose it may be a bug because it has been reported by a number
DAC of users, including myself. Of course, it may well be something else
DAC in my configuration. That is why I keep asking if there is a way to
DAC change any of my configuration when the program is not running since
DAC it will not run in its current configuration.

  Did  you  try  renaming  some  of the files or directories in The Bat
  Folder?  Try  renaming your mail folder to something else so it isn't
  recognized  by The Bat. 

Tonight I tried experimenting with renaming directories. Actually, I
succeeded with the first one I tried.

Although in preferences/options /antispam, no plugins are identified,
there is a folder called BAYESIT in the TB directory. When I gave it a
new name, the problem went away. It is working fine, although this has
been a long term problem. I found threads I started here on the topic
on 21 October 2004, 4 November, 2004, 21 March 2005, and this one. I
didn't look for the times when I sent messages confirming I too had
the problem when other reported it.

The date of the files in the BAYESIT directory is 10/12/04 (OCT 12,
not DECEMBER 10) The same directory with the same files is present in
my set up here at the office, and it runs fine.  Go figure.

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Re: still can't run TB on my desktop

2005-04-23 Thread Dwight A Corrin
On Saturday, April 23, 2005, 1:42:14 AM, Dwight A Corrin wrote:

 Although in preferences/options /antispam, no plugins are
 identified, there is a folder called BAYESIT in the TB directory.
 When I gave it a new name, the problem went away. It is working
 fine, although this has been a long term problem. I found threads I
 started here on the topic on 21 October 2004, 4 November, 2004, 21
 March 2005, and this one. I didn't look for the times when I sent
 messages confirming I too had the problem when other reported it.

I am able to recreate this, by the way. I wasn't sure I could when I
sent the original message, but with the build up of new mail, whenever
the folder is named BAYESIT TB! shuts down, when it is renamed, it
works fine and collects the mail.

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Sounds for the bat!

2005-04-23 Thread Claude Renaud
Hi all,

   After a little break I'm back and today I'm very glad because the
version of The Bat! I work with, 3.0.9.17,, does not crash any more !!!

Just a little question at the moment, could somebody could be kind
enough to remind me where I could find sounds for the The bat! events
!!!
When I tested them the last time, they were gathered in a sounds.rar
file.
Please if you could tell me where I could download this file...

And just another little question which comes to me : in the bat!
3.0.9.17 the Shortcut Editor does not exist any more, so how can we
customize the the bat! shorcuts now ?

Greetings,

-- 

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Skype :

Name : renaud_claude
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Sounds for the bat!

2005-04-23 Thread Claude Renaud
Hi all,

   Sorry for my first html messages !!!


   After a little break I'm back and today I'm very glad because the
version of The Bat! I work with, 3.0.9.17,, does not crash any more !!!

Just a little question at the moment, could somebody could be kind
enough to remind me where I could find sounds for the The bat! events
!!!
When I tested them the last time, they were gathered in a sounds.rar
file.
Please if you could tell me where I could download this file...

And just another little question which comes to me : in the bat!
3.0.9.17 the Shortcut Editor does not exist any more, so how can we
customize the the bat! shorcuts now ?

Greetings,

-- 

Claude Renaud

Skype :

Name : renaud_claude
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Re: 3.0.9.18 new-/non-/fixed issues

2005-04-23 Thread Boris Anders
Hello Peter,

Peter Ouwehand wrote (in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]):


 - mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   When you delete the last message of a folder in folder view, folder
   view don't close automatically but stays open. (Bug because I don't see
   the sence of empty folder view and it was auto closed in earlier
   versions).

confirmed.

 - mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Follow button in Finder is broken, while right clicking on the message
   and selecting Follow from context menu works fine.

confirmed.

 - mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Status-bar pop-ups in Edit Mail Message window:
   1. Open an Edit Mail Message window.
   2. LMB or RMB in the account or character-set pane in the status bar both 
 show
  the pop-up lists.
   3. RMB in the column:row pane.
   4. Now LMB in the account or character-set pane again, the pop-up list will 
 not
  be shown. RMB works fine though. After using RMB, LMB works again.

confirmed.

 - mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   The Main menu of Quick Templates window is called Standard and has
   a X (to close). This isn't a good idea, as I have no clue to get
   these container back (once closed) without deleting the tbuser.def.
   (Note: You only can see this, if you drag and drop the Main menu out
   of the Quick Templates window).

confirmed.

 - mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   [View | Character Set] doesn't list available character sets.
   Besides 'None' (one or two times) only 'Auto detect' and 'Set as Default'
   are available.
   In Main, View Folder and Message Finder windows.
   3.0.9.17:
   Fixed, except for the 2 times 'None' in the View Folder window.

Can't confirm, where exactly should they be?

 - mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   [View | Attached Files] after a restart always indicates 'Show as Pane' 
 although
   the actual option used is 'Show as Button'.
   In Main, View Folder and Message Finder windows.

confirmed.

 - mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   View Folder window: Message list context menu is missing the 'Open   Enter' 
 option
   (displayed bold, as it is the default action).

Confirmed - this is a bug because it's a sensless limitation - and
double click on message works fine :-).

   Message Finder window: Message list context menu 'Open   Enter' option 
 should be
   displayed bold, as it is the default action.

confirmed.

 - mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   greater-than sign printed as gt;
   3.0.9.18:
   - appears to be fixed using HP-LJ-4L
   - not fixed using Jaws PDF Creator
confirmed if you print the text part, not confirmed, if you print HTML
part. Using PDF Creator 0.8.1 RC6 GPLGhostscript.

 - mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Name column in account tree auto expand, which can't be stopped.

confirmed.


 - mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   You can't switch the tabs in [Options|Quick Templates|New] using Ctrl + Tab

confirmed.

 - mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Message Finder Folders tab: 'Look in' is not working

confirmed.

 - mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   In context menu of Folder View: Reply to All quoting selected text
   is missing
   Also missing in context menu from the Main window.

confirmed.

 - mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   In Customise|Available Items|mEdit
   there are two entries Left, one with icon and one without - guess one
   is enough.
   In Customise|Available Items|PopMgr
   there seems to be lot of duplicates of Read|Receive|Delete|open

confirmed.

 - mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Interface problem concerning change from Alt+1 to Alt+0 and
   view-modes. No pattern to reproduce though.
   3.0.9.15/3.0.9.16: not yet encountered, didn't happen often either.

Fixed for me.


 - mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   part size text jump to left of attachment button, if you switch
   between two mails which have attachements.

confirmed.

 - mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   'View folder' window [View | Memo auto view] menu:
   Isn't correct updated, if you close memo auto view with ESC
   3.0.9.15: also not when using the X.

confirmed.

 - mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Customize menu isn't resize able, but that would be very useful and it
   seems that it should be resize able.
   3.0.9.13
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Available items pane is a too narrow

confirmed.

 - mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   The favorite entries are not correctly represented, introduced in
   v3.0.9.1 - see attach.

confirmed.

 - mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   View|Display|Advanced Filtering - Nothing happens

confirmed.


 - mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   If you have a (HTML)table in editor, chose a field and change
   alignment of it. Works a few times, but then it stops to work correct.
   Just play around a like:
   Start TheBat! and Open Editor (HTML/Plain text editor)
   Insert table (2x2)
   Insert text (asdf)
   Select center (using button bar)
   Select left (using button bar)
   Select center (using button bar)
   Text doesn't go into the middle
   3.0.9.17:
   It takes a few more cycles to get the same error.

Not fixed completely:

Start TheBat! and Open Editor (HTML/Plain text editor)
Insert table (2x2)
Insert 

Re: Sounds for the bat!

2005-04-23 Thread Marck D Pearlstone
Dear Claude,

@23-Apr-2005, 09:51 +0200 (23-Apr 08:51 UK time) Claude Renaud [CR] in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

... snip
CR Please if you could tell me where I could download this file...

There are several sources and variations.

,--/ From the Nobat site: \--
There are a set of TB sounds available from here:

http://files.nobat.ru/files/33
`--\ End /--

,--/ And from Cees: \--
 http://rubeo.nl/files/waves.rar

 couple  of  goodies...  one  actually  I  recorded myself:
`--\ End /--

,--/ From 'Ivan' \--
That is easy to create your own sound theme, isn't it?
Here is another example -
http://www.entropii.net/bat_sounds/Sounds_hl.rar
http://files.nobat.ru/sounds/1 - english voice;
http://files.nobat.ru/sounds/2 - deutch voice;
http://files.nobat.ru/sounds/3 - sounds from Half Life

Just unpack wav-files into folder Sounds in the folder The Bat!
e.g. c:\Program Files\The Bat!\Sounds\
`--\ End /--

CR And just another little question which comes to me : in the bat!
CR 3.0.9.17 the Shortcut Editor does not exist any more, so how can we
CR customize the the bat! shorcuts now ?

Right click on the menus / toolbars and select Customise. This is
the main crux of the 3.0.9 return beta - to test these new
customization features.

-- 
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Re: 3.0.9.18 new-/non-/fixed issues

2005-04-23 Thread Miroslav Florensen
Hello Peter,

 - mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   no PGP-Icon

   Miroslav Florensen (and others): is this still broken for you?

yes, still broken

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Re[2]: 3.0.9.18 new-/non-/fixed issues

2005-04-23 Thread Marek Mikus
Hello all,
Saturday, April 23, 2005, Miroslav Florensen wrote:

 - mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   no PGP-Icon

   Miroslav Florensen (and others): is this still broken for you?

 yes, still broken

confirm, no icon is displayed.

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Re[3]: 3.0.9.18 new-/non-/fixed issues

2005-04-23 Thread Cees

Het was op zaterdag 23 april 2005 om 10:57 uur dat jij iets schreef over 
'3.0.9.18 new-/non-/fixed issues' :

Hallo Marek,
  
 I still don't have a logo when firing up thebat!
 It's  not  the worst thing... I'd like an option by the way to choose wheter
 or not a logo is shown (and maybe even a choice of logo's?) but just thought
 I'd mention it.

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TB customization

2005-04-23 Thread Prezes
Hello,

  I have got 2 questions about new line 3.0.9.x:

  1. Is there any possibility to turn off the blue line between
  accounts (to get look like in 3.0.2.10 and older)?

  2. I realized, that something strange was done with alingement of
  account list (account name, unread message and read messages). Could
  you tell me the difference between it and this from 3.0.2.10
  version? Is there any possibility to get allingement from 3.0.2.10?

  And please confirm 3 bugs (attachements from bug 2 is only on BT
  to ave bandwith):

  1. https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=4496

  Message list's scrollbar weird behaviour.

  To reproduce it you must have some messages in a folder. Click on
  the down arrow at messages list to scroll the window down - use only
  the down arrow. Then the list will look like in attachement
  snap1.png. Please look, that the square on the scrollbar is above
  the ground and there is no way to pull it down using scrollbar!

  Then go to top and then scroll the window down using only the square
  of the scrollbar (catch it with the left button of mouse and then
  pull it down) - please look at snap2.png. The square now is on the
  down, but there is too much space at the bottom of messages list.

  2. https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=4495

  Account list's scrollbar weird behaviour.

  To reproduce it you must have a lot of accounts. Click on the down
  arrow at account list to scroll the window down - use only the down
  arrow. Then the list will look like in attachement snap1.png. Please
  look, that the square on the scrollbar is above the ground and there
  is no way to pull it down using scrollbar. But accound list look
  good.

  Then go to top and then scroll the window down using only the square
  of the scrollbar (catch it with the left button of mouse and then
  pull it down) - please look at snap2.png. The square now is on the
  down, but there is too much space at the bottom of account list.

  3. https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=4494

  Connection Centre text is to near to log box

  Please see attached image snap.png - CC last line Dziennik: is to
  near log box... Please add some space between it and log box.

-- 
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Re: still can't run TB on my desktop

2005-04-23 Thread MAU
Hello Dwight,

 I am able to recreate this, by the way. I wasn't sure I could when I
 sent the original message, but with the build up of new mail, whenever
 the folder is named BAYESIT TB! shuts down, when it is renamed, it
 works fine and collects the mail.

Well, it took you months to find out where the problems was but finally
you did. Good to hear that! :)

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Re: The Bat! 3.0.9.18 Return is now available

2005-04-23 Thread MAU
Hello Roger,

 I have done this, but TB does not use these customised items. Is there
 any way now that one can now edit customised items so that one can use
 'Space'  or  'Enter'.   I had just set up some items to use these keys
 and now this facility has been removed!

TB took all my customised items after I moved tbuser.def to mail
directory. Or are you perhaps referring to what I say in my
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ?


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Re: 3.0.9.18 new-/non-/fixed issues

2005-04-23 Thread Manuel Breitfeld
Hey Cees,

just now (on 04/23/2005 at 11:12) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I'd like an option by the way to choose wheter or not a logo is
 shown
C:\Program Files\The Bat!\thebat.exe /nologo

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Re: The Bat! 3.0.9.18 Return is now available

2005-04-23 Thread Goncalo Farias
Hi,

In reply to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] :


9 Hello All,

9 IMPORTANT:  tbuser.def now should be stored in mail directory, keep it
9 in  mind,  if  you  want to keep all customization you made in current
9 beta
9 The Bat! 3.0.9.18 Return is now available from:
9 http://www.ritlabs.com/en/tbbeta/


I've   just  tried  the  betas  for the first time. Not a single AV so
far.

I've  noticed  a  glitch  though. For instance, if I choose Save view
mode  to...  from  the context menu after changing a column width the
column will be reset to the initial size.

The  only  way I found to save the new size is to move from one folder
to  another  and  answer  affirmatively  to  the  view  mode changed
question.

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Re[2]: The Bat! 3.0.9.18 Return is now available

2005-04-23 Thread Goncalo Farias

In reply to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] :


GF Hi,

GF In reply to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] :


9 Hello All,

9 IMPORTANT:  tbuser.def now should be stored in mail directory, keep it
9 in  mind,  if  you  want to keep all customization you made in current
9 beta
9 The Bat! 3.0.9.18 Return is now available from:
9 http://www.ritlabs.com/en/tbbeta/


GF I've   just  tried  the  betas  for the first time. Not a single AV so
GF far.

GF I've  noticed  a  glitch  though. For instance, if I choose Save view
GF mode  to...  from  the context menu after changing a column width the
GF column will be reset to the initial size.

GF The  only  way I found to save the new size is to move from one folder
GF to  another  and  answer  affirmatively  to  the  view  mode changed
GF question.


Ah,  I  forgot,  the delete message button doesn't close the message
window,  instead  it  loads  the  next/previous  message  which is the
behavior of the delete and follow... buttons.

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Seeds

2005-04-23 Thread Goos

Hello,

living in Europe, I can't order living plants in the USA,
obviously, it's forbidden. But seeds are allowed.
So here's my question:
We would like to get seeds of these Apostle plants:
  - Neomarica longifolia
  - Neomarica northiana
  - Neomarica sylvestris
Can we order those seeds with you?
If not, can you help us for an addres where we can get those
seeds?
  
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Re: 3.0.9.18 new-/non-/fixed issues

2005-04-23 Thread MAU
Hello Peter,

Great work you are doing by maintaining this list, it is much
appreciated.



 Non-fixed issues:

 - mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Follow button in Finder is broken, while right clicking on the message
   and selecting Follow from context menu works fine.

Confirmed. Still not fixed.


 
 - mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Name column in account tree auto expand, which can't be stopped. This
   might be the reason for
 https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=4353.
   Suggestion: Solve the problem with an option similar to the existing
   Limit expansion of the first column to [ ] levels
   Another suggestion (GS): If the column width stays consistent, then the
   horizontal scroll bar should only be for the name column and not include
   the unread  total counts.

I have never seen this problem with any of the betas. I wonder why.


 - mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Customize menu isn't resize able, but that would be very useful and it
   seems that it should be resize able.
   3.0.9.13
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Available items pane is a too narrow

Yes, it is still the same.


 - mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   View|Display|Advanced Filtering - Nothing happens

Confirmed.


 Likely not to be fixed (in this beta serie), added to BT, to be removed
 from this list:

 - mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Truncated Icons: When the file is available, TB it appears to use a
   mix of icons from the glyphs.bmp and from the new .png files. So far,
   it seems that all icons in a 'list-view' are then taken from
   glyphs.bmp.
   (see address-book group icons)
   Moved to BT: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=4493
 

I can confirm this and, in my specific case, I am glad it behaves this
way. At least until there is (or I find) a way to modify some of the PNG
icons.


 Ok, now for some good news:
 
 - mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   and others
   Spell checker behaviour.
   No suggestions at all, or English suggestions for non-English languages.

Confirmed. It now works.


 - mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Ctrl + a (to select all text) is broken in Plain text (Windows)
   Editor.

Confirmed as fixed.

And now one thing that does not appear in your list:

- mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

  I still get 2 AVs every time I open Search no matter if it is from
  toolbar or menu. After the 2 AVs are OKed, search works fine.

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Re: 3.0.9.18 new-/non-/fixed issues

2005-04-23 Thread MAU
Hello Cees,

  I still don't have a logo when firing up thebat!
  It's  not  the worst thing... I'd like an option by the way to choose wheter
  or not a logo is shown (and maybe even a choice of logo's?) but just thought
  I'd mention it.

Are you starting TB from a shortcut? If so, do you have /NOLOGO as a
parameter?

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Re[2]: 3.0.9.18 new-/non-/fixed issues

2005-04-23 Thread Goncalo Farias

In reply to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] :


M And now one thing that does not appear in your list:
M - mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

M   I still get 2 AVs every time I open Search no matter if it is from
M   toolbar or menu. After the 2 AVs are OKed, search works fine.

Not confirmed (menu/toolbar/F7)


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Re[2]: 3.0.9.18 new-/non-/fixed issues

2005-04-23 Thread Cees

Het was op zaterdag 23 april 2005 om 12:25 uur dat jij iets schreef over 
'3.0.9.18 new-/non-/fixed issues' :

Hallo MAU,
  
  I still don't have a logo when firing up thebat!
  It's  not  the worst thing... I'd like an option by the way to choose wheter
  or not a logo is shown (and maybe even a choice of logo's?) but just thought
  I'd mention it.

M Are you starting TB from a shortcut? If so, do you have /NOLOGO as a
M parameter?

 never had and never will do.
 Tried /logo though as alternative, but still: NO LOGO sigh
 I want my battie back! :banshee:

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Re: TB customization

2005-04-23 Thread MAU
Hello Prezes,

   1. Is there any possibility to turn off the blue line between
   accounts (to get look like in 3.0.2.10 and older)?

Not at the moment, I'm afraid. And I don't know if there will ever be.

   2. I realized, that something strange was done with alingement of
   account list (account name, unread message and read messages). Could
   you tell me the difference between it and this from 3.0.2.10
   version? Is there any possibility to get allingement from 3.0.2.10?

I see this all the time because I switch back and forth from betas to
3.0.2.10. The problem is the width of the folder tree Name column. So
far, the only way I have found is to change the with every time I
switch.

   1. https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=4496
 
   Message list's scrollbar weird behaviour.

Confirmed.

   2. https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=4495
 
   Account list's scrollbar weird behaviour.

Confirmed.


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Re[3]: 3.0.9.18 new-/non-/fixed issues

2005-04-23 Thread Cees

Het was op zaterdag 23 april 2005 om 12:27 uur dat jij iets schreef over 
'3.0.9.18 new-/non-/fixed issues' :

Hallo Goncalo,

M   I still get 2 AVs every time I open Search no matter if it is from
M   toolbar or menu. After the 2 AVs are OKed, search works fine.

GF Not confirmed (menu/toolbar/F7)

 not confirmed here either. Works fine.

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Trial of Current IMAP

2005-04-23 Thread Allie Martin
Hi all,

Ok. I saw the last beta announcement and see that a lot of
fixing was done.

The general thing I've initially encountered is having to
redo some of my folders message list view mode settings and
readjust a couple of the view modes. The readjustments seem
to remain set so that's fine.

For IMAP, things were glitchy at first. It was initially not
off to a good start when I selected my TBBETA folder and
attempted loading a message. Nothing happened and this was
in my IMAP log:

IMAP - 1: Cannot select the mailbox TBBETA. Server reports: SELECT completed

I don't know what that means. I killed the IMAP connection
and tried again. Same result.

I exited and restarted. For a few moments I couldn't seem to
get any folder doing anything. I disconnected and
reconnected. Nothing. Waited and then it started updating
folders, something it usually does at startup. The usual
cocophony of sounds started since I haven't used TB! for a
while. You see, I filter most mail on the server and when
'new mail' is detected in these folders, a sound is made for
each of them. This is even if the sound is the same and if
the messages were already read using another client. This
behaviour needs tidying up.

TB! seems to be behaving OK for the last many minutes and
I've browsed around etc. The I/O Read/Writing seems decent
and things are snappy.

My main problem is with connection stability, so I can't
comment on this without using TB! for a prolonged time. I'll
use it at home for a while.

One problem that stands out is that for messages that
haven't been retrieved, there's no indication of whether or
not messages are multipart. So messages with attachments
aren't flagged as such in the message list unless you
retrieve the message.

I don't have any of my folders set to synchronise. Their
counts are just updated. Upon selecting each message, the
message body is retrieved. I wish there were a way to
prevent message count updating for some folders, even though
you're subscribed to them. The reason for this is that
browsing unread messages becomes easier. I can just move
from new message to new message without ending up in my junk
and other folders I wish not to browse except only
occasionally. If these folders are updated, they'll not have
new messages unless I select them, at which point their
numbers are updated. The work around is to work with the
alert that asks if you wish to proceed to the next folder.
Not a good one if you do wish to do so 98% of the time.


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Re: Trial of Current IMAP

2005-04-23 Thread Neal Laugman
Allie  and List,

 For IMAP, things were glitchy at first. It was initially not
 off to a good start when I selected my TBBETA folder and
 attempted loading a message. Nothing happened and this was
 in my IMAP log:

 IMAP - 1: Cannot select the mailbox TBBETA. Server reports: SELECT completed

 I don't know what that means. I killed the IMAP connection
 and tried again. Same result.

 I exited and restarted. For a few moments I couldn't seem to
 get any folder doing anything. I disconnected and
 reconnected. Nothing.

Same here with the error message and the folder updating was not
correct. Didn't have time to really work with it, but all is not well.
Will work more with it later. 

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Save viewmode to... AV

2005-04-23 Thread Martin Webster on tbbeta
Hello tbbeta, 

When I attempt to save a viewmode using the content menu I get the
following AV:

  AV at address 00AA3D2A. Read of address 0030.


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Re: TB customization

2005-04-23 Thread Prezes
Hello,
Saturday, April 23, 2005, 10:51:34 AM, you wrote:

P   And please confirm 3 bugs (attachements from bug 2 is only on BT
P   to ave bandwith):

  And corresponding this one:

  https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=4497

  Folder  Maintenance account list's scrollbar weird behaviour.
  (the same like in Accounts window).

  And the second bug:

  Create new message and try to change priority by clicking the
  priority icon at the bottom of the message window. In 3.0.2.10
  priority simply changed - now there is tab, when you can choose
  priority - this is very good. But you can also change message
  confirmation receipt and message confirmation. But if you click only
  on message confirmation... tab, there is no menu. So this is
  inconsistency. You must decide to one behaviour: separate menu for
  priorities and confirmations or menu for priorities without
  confirmations elements...

  https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=4501


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Re: 3.0.9.18 new-/non-/fixed issues

2005-04-23 Thread MAU
Hello Cees,

  never had and never will do.
  Tried /logo though as alternative, but still: NO LOGO sigh
  I want my battie back! :banshee:

I have no idea of what the problem may be. Perhaps some sitting in the
Registry? From what I have seen, it looks like your were playing with
some alternative splash screens mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED],
is this correct?


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Re: 3.0.9.18 new-/non-/fixed issues

2005-04-23 Thread MAU
Hello Goncalo,

M   I still get 2 AVs every time I open Search no matter if it is from
M   toolbar or menu. After the 2 AVs are OKed, search works fine.
 
 Not confirmed (menu/toolbar/F7)

I know it does not happen to everyone, but I have had this since 3.0.9.8
and it does happen every single time.

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Re: 3.0.9.18 - Crash When Refreshing VF's

2005-04-23 Thread MAU
Hello Simon,

 Right clicking on any VF today causes The Bat to freeze and then close 
 without AV's.
 Re-opening causes all VF's to display Unread messages.
 
 Does anyone else see this behavior?

Not here, and I do use quite a number of VFs.

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Re[2]: 3.0.9.18 new-/non-/fixed issues

2005-04-23 Thread Cees

Het was op zaterdag 23 april 2005 om 13:23 uur dat jij iets schreef over 
'3.0.9.18 new-/non-/fixed issues' :

Hallo MAU,

  never had and never will do.
  Tried /logo though as alternative, but still: NO LOGO sigh
  I want my battie back! :banshee:

M I have no idea of what the problem may be. Perhaps some sitting in the
M Registry? From what I have seen, it looks like your were playing with
M some alternative splash screens mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED],
M is this correct?

 yes,  but  I  have  absolutely  no  idea how to get the original back, to be
 honest. Do you?


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Re: TB customization

2005-04-23 Thread Prezes
Hello,
Saturday, April 23, 2005, 12:33:35 PM, you wrote:

M I see this all the time because I switch back and forth from betas to
M 3.0.2.10. The problem is the width of the folder tree Name column. So
M far, the only way I have found is to change the with every time I
M switch.

I found, that in 3.0.2.10 was the right allingement of read and unread
messages column, and now there is left allingement, so after expanding
account the numbers are jumping... Any confirmations? And will it be
fixed?

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Re: 3.0.9.18 new-/non-/fixed issues

2005-04-23 Thread MAU
Hello Cees,

M I have no idea of what the problem may be. Perhaps some sitting in the
M Registry? From what I have seen, it looks like your were playing with
M some alternative splash screens
M mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED],
M is this correct?
 
  yes,  but  I  have  absolutely  no  idea how to get the original back, to be
  honest. Do you?

No, no idea. In Spain we say: If you sleep with a little baby you are
likely to be wet when you wake up ;-)

Have you checked with whoever provided the alternative splash screens?

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Re: TB customization

2005-04-23 Thread MAU
Hello Prezes,

 I found, that in 3.0.2.10 was the right allingement of read and unread
 messages column, and now there is left allingement, so after expanding
 account the numbers are jumping... Any confirmations? And will it be
 fixed?

If you mean alignment of numbers in the Unread and Total columns they are
left aligned here on both versions. It is the width of the Name column
what changes here when switching between version and I wouldn't think
this will be fixed because, sooner or later, there will be no need to
switch back to 3.0.2.10.

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IMAP: Attachment retrieval and viewing/saving issues

2005-04-23 Thread Allie Martin
Hi all,

If I select a message with a large attachment, the message
body loads alone.

I click on the attachment button and see the attachment name
with the size defined as 0. TB! really should display the
size of the attachment. Otherwise, how am I to know whether
or not it's too big to retrieve at a particular time, namely
when using a slower connection?

The next thing which isn't as problematic but still a
problem. You select one of the attachments to be opened. TB!
pops up a message asking if you wish to download message and
all associated attachments. I click yes and TB! does this. I
then have to go back and reselect the attachment for opening
and only then is it loaded.

This latter behaviour should be potentially transparent in
that the popup prompt asking if you're sure etc., should be
optional in that one should be able to disable it. The other
thing is that when you select the attachment to be opened,
it should be downloaded *and* opened. Not simply downloaded
with the user then having to reselect the attachment for it
to be downloaded.

Finally, as mentioned in a previous message, there's the
ability of downloading only one attachment at a time that
should be there.

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Re: The Bat! 3.0.9.18 Return is now available

2005-04-23 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello 9Val,

On Sat, 23 Apr 2005 00:10:14 +0300 GMT (23/04/2005, 04:10 +0700 GMT),
9Val wrote:

9 [-] UI : MenuNavigator removed

I am sorry to hear that. Honestly, the menu items do not always follow
logic, but I am used to TB, so I usually know where to find what. Yet,
I use the MenuNavigator at times. In addition, I recommend using it to
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Re: IMAP: Attachment retrieval and viewing/saving issues

2005-04-23 Thread Manuel Breitfeld
Hey Allie,

just now (on 04/23/2005 at 15:18) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 If I select a message with a large attachment, the message
 body loads alone.
snip
 Finally, as mentioned in a previous message, there's the
 ability of downloading only one attachment at a time that
 should be there.

I agree in all points, Allie.
The way Mulberry (I know you have it) handles this is great. One can
selectively download an attachment and more than that, the size is
shown before downloading.

The only way to guess the size of an attachment is to view the whole
message size... :/

When retrieving an attachment it would be great to go on reading. This
is not possibly because of the download progress bar which shows up
and replaces the message.
I mentioned this a long time ago, but didn't get any response.
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Re: Headers on the header pane for attached messages

2005-04-23 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello MAU,

On Sat, 23 Apr 2005 01:54:08 +0200 GMT (23/04/2005, 06:54 +0700 GMT),
MAU wrote:

M Thanks, I guess I must have been using a different e-mail client in my
M dreams ;-)

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Re: Seeds

2005-04-23 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Goos,

On Sat, 23 Apr 2005 12:13:42 +0200 GMT (23/04/2005, 17:13 +0700 GMT),
Goos wrote:

 We would like to get seeds of these Apostle plants:

I *love* folder templates.

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Re: Headers on the header pane for attached messages

2005-04-23 Thread MAU
Hello Thomas,

M Thanks, I guess I must have been using a different e-mail client in my
M dreams ;-)

 That dream must have been a nightmare. ;-)

No, it was a nice one. The program had cute UI, but could hardly do
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Re: 3.0.9.18 - Reordering Filters in NFS

2005-04-23 Thread Maurice Snellen
On Friday, April 22, 2005 at 22:53 (which was Friday, April 22, 2005
at 23:53 where I am) Simon Fincham [SF] wrote:

SF I have noticed that if you wish to re-order filters; using
SF the up/down arrows if you attempt to move a single filter past an
SF open filter with associated sub-filters displayed expanded it
SF fails.  If the sub-filters are not expanded, then the single
SF filter will correctly continue up the tree to it's new position.

Confirmed, I've also noticed this behaviour. Furthermore, I would like
to take this opportunity to request that it be made possible to
drag/drop filters to their desired position with the mouse.

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Re[2]: The Bat! 3.0.9.18 Return is now available

2005-04-23 Thread Roger Phillips
Hello MAU,

Saturday, April 23, 2005, 11:46:56 AM, among other things, you wrote:

 I have done this, but TB does not use these customised items. Is there
 any way now that one can now edit customised items so that one can use
 'Space'  or  'Enter'.   I had just set up some items to use these keys
 and now this facility has been removed!

M TB took all my customised items after I moved tbuser.def to mail
It  has  NOT  taken  the  items  from MY tbuser.def, moved to the MAIL
folder!

M directory. Or are you perhaps referring to what I say in my
M mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ?

Using  your method I created a shortcut of Ctrl+Space, which worked in
3.0.9.17 but this does not work in 3.0.9.18.



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Re: 3.0.9.18 - Reordering Filters in NFS

2005-04-23 Thread MAU
Hello Maurice,

 Furthermore, I would like to take this opportunity to request that it
 be made possible to drag/drop filters to their desired position with
 the mouse.

This possibility has been there for ever (or almost). Just Alt+Click and
drag to position.

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Re: The Bat! 3.0.9.18 Return is now available

2005-04-23 Thread MAU
Hello Roger,

M TB took all my customised items after I moved tbuser.def to mail
 It  has  NOT  taken  the  items  from MY tbuser.def, moved to the MAIL
 folder!

Hmmm! That's strange. You can try something if you still have your
tbused.def saved somewhere.

- Exit TB.
- Remove any tbuser.def for MAIL directory
- Re-star TB. It should start with default view, toolbars, etc.
- Make some simple changes to UI, like moving a toolbar or just not view
the Configuration or Quick Search ones.
- Exit TB.
- A new tbuser.def should have been created in MAIL directory. If not,
search your disk drive for it, it should be somewhere.
- Once you find it, replace with your own tbuser.def

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Re: The Bat! 3.0.9.18 Return is now available

2005-04-23 Thread Roger Phillips
Hello 9Val,

Friday, April 22, 2005, 11:10:14 PM, among other things, you wrote:


9 IMPORTANT:  tbuser.def now should be stored in mail directory, keep it
9 in  mind,  if  you  want to keep all customization you made in current
9 beta

I have done this, but TB does not use these customised items. Is there
any way now that one can now edit customised items so that one can use
'Space'  or  'Enter'.   I had just set up some items to use these keys
and now this facility has been removed!

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Search follow not working v18

2005-04-23 Thread Greg Strong
Hello TBBETA,

I performed a search and found messages. After selecting a message in
the message list I clicked on 'Follow' with no response from TB.

In the past a 'View Folder' would open with the message.

Bug? confirm?

Sorry if this has been reported already, but haven't been keeping up
with the list on a daily basis.

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Re: Search follow not working v18

2005-04-23 Thread MAU
Hello Greg,

 Bug? confirm?
 
 Sorry if this has been reported already, but haven't been keeping up
 with the list on a daily basis.

Yes, see mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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Re: Search follow not working v18

2005-04-23 Thread Greg Strong
Hello MAU,

On Sat, 23 Apr 2005 20:20:29 +0200 GMT(4/23/2005, 1:20 PM -0600 GMT), 
per mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] MAU wrote:

 Bug? confirm?
 
 Sorry if this has been reported already, but haven't been keeping up
 with the list on a daily basis.

 Yes, see mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Ahh, yes Peter's list. I should have checked it. Probably better then
the bug tracker with regard to current beta.

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Re[2]: The Bat! 3.0.9.18 Return is now available

2005-04-23 Thread Roger Phillips
Hello MAU,

Saturday, April 23, 2005, 7:08:06 PM, among other things, you wrote:

M - A new tbuser.def should have been created in MAIL directory. If not,
M search your disk drive for it, it should be somewhere.
M - Once you find it, replace with your own tbuser.def

 I  had  two  folders,  one  called  'The Bat!' with the last official
 stable  version  in  it, and one called 'The Bat! alphas' which I was
 using for testing the current series, including 3.0.9.18.. It created
 the  new  tbuser.def  in  'The Bat!' folder, instead of in the folder
 containing  3.0.9.18.  I've  changed the 'alphas' folder to 'The Bat!
 and all now works OK.

Many thanks for pointing me along the road to success.


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Mod: HTML (was: Sounds for the bat!)

2005-04-23 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Claude,

On Sat, 23 Apr 2005 02:00:51 +0200GMT (23-4-2005, 2:00 +0200, where I
live), you wrote:

CRAfter a little break I'm back and today I'm very glad because the
CR version of The Bat! I work with, 3.0.9.17,, does not crash any more !!!

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Re: IMAP: Attachment retrieval and viewing/saving issues

2005-04-23 Thread Jonathan Angliss
Hello Manuel,
Saturday, April 23, 2005, 8:35:45 AM, you wrote:

 Hey Allie,

 just now (on 04/23/2005 at 15:18) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 If I select a message with a large attachment, the message
 body loads alone.
 snip
 Finally, as mentioned in a previous message, there's the
 ability of downloading only one attachment at a time that
 should be there.

 I agree in all points, Allie.
 The way Mulberry (I know you have it) handles this is great. One can
 selectively download an attachment and more than that, the size is
 shown before downloading.

I doubt it'd be that difficult.  Just add BODYSTRUCTURE to the IMAP
call when fetching the original message information.  That'd also
quickly establish if there were attachments, and if there are pgp/mime
parts too... For example:

A01 UID FETCH 30066 (BODYSTRUCTURE BODY[HEADER.FIELDS (DATE FROM)])

* 160 FETCH (UID 30066 BODYSTRUCTURE (((text plain (charset us-ascii) 
NIL NIL quoted-printable 528 22 NIL NIL NIL)(text html (charset 
us-ascii) NIL NIL quoted-printable 3836 122 NIL NIL NIL) alternative 
(boundary _=_NextPart_002_01C545BF.03350AD0) NIL NIL)(image jpeg 
(name pearls.JPG) NIL pearls.JPG base64 50500 NIL (attachment 
(filename pearls.JPG)) NIL) mixed (boundary 
_=_NextPart_001_01C545BF.03350AD0) NIL NIL) BODY[HEADER.FIELDS (DATE 
FROM)] {97}
Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 10:38:34 -0500
From: [name protected]


)
OK FETCH completed.

Shows that email consists of one plain text part, one html part, and
one attachment (an image named perls.jpg), and if I remember my
bodystructure stuff... I think the 50500 is the size of the file.
BODYSTRUCTURE gives me a headache after a while :)  Of course, I could
be way off the mark, and they could already be doing this, I've not
looked at the output from an imap conversation in a while, and I saw
they introduced a few features that might mean they are already doing
this.

 The only way to guess the size of an attachment is to view the whole
 message size... :/

It's all in the BODYSTRUCTURE ;)

 When retrieving an attachment it would be great to go on reading. This
 is not possibly because of the download progress bar which shows up
 and replaces the message.
 I mentioned this a long time ago, but didn't get any response.
 mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

  You could, if your server supports it, add more connections. Under
  Account Properties, there is an IMAP Fine Tune where you can
  increase the number of connections. There is even an option to
  dedicate a connection to reading messages, but if they wrote the
  whole connection stuff in a smart manor, it'd use whichever
  connection is free, and always reserve one for reading.

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IMAP: Wrong Body Loaded, and Browse Deleted Messages

2005-04-23 Thread Jonathan Angliss
Hey Guys,

I think I almost about died laughing, and I'm going to blame Allie for
cursing me :)

We were discussing offlist some things about IMAP, and he had
mentioned that he had not had a wrong body loading issue with the
latest beta.  I was reading his email in my webmail application, while
I had TB open.  When I finished reading the email, I flipped over to
TB, and clicked on my INBOX, sure enough, there was Allie's email,
marked as read, and threaded under the other emails as it should have
been.  I clicked on the mentioned email, and this is what happened:

  http://thebat.netdork.net/imap_wrong_body.png

Thanks Allie ;)

I thought that was weird, seeing as I /had/ deleted the RitLabs
welcome message. So I took a look at the Browse Deleted Messages
dialog, and sure enough, there was the email, along with ALL the other
mail from my INBOX. That is a horrifying thought. If I run a purge and
compress, is TB going to assume the emails listed under deleted
messages ARE deleted? Could this have been the cause of some of the
posts a while ago with folder maintenance, and TB deleting the
contents of peoples folders? Or is TB just not handling the Browse
Deleted Messages list with IMAP very well? I checked the flags on
each and every email (quite a task, I have 3000 odd emails in my
INBOX), and not a single one of them is flagged with the IMAP flag
\Deleted.

This is on 3.0.9.17, Windows XP SP2.  IMAP server is courier.

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