Re[2]: About 3.51 release
In reply to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : JW o Will it give me an OTFE implementation that I can use (i.e. JW that will search my message base without hanging and also JW preserve my settings while migrating)? 9 Actually I don't think problems with search reported in list are 9 related to OTFE - it is problem of new search method and it is 9 still not finished. 9 Migration to OTFE will take all settings. Can we expect OTFE on an account basis? -- Best regards, Goncalo Farias Its hard to be graceful getting off your high horse. Current beta is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: About 3.51 release
On Wednesday, July 27, 2005 at 02:37 (which was Wednesday, July 27, 2005 at 1:37 where I am) Jay Walker wrote: I have no idea what is the best charset for me to use. One account seems to be set to default at Latin 9 (ISO) and another account seems to be set to default at Western European (ISO), and I have no idea when I made such a decision. I think TB! now defaults to Latin 9 (ISO) or iso-8859-15 which is basicly not much different from Latin 1 (ISO) or iso-8859-1 that I think was the previous default except for its support of the Euro-symbol (€). I'm not entirely sure on the current situation, but in the past, TB! would also automatically change the charset of a message to US-ASCII if no characters 127 were detected, and things may also depend on whether you have quoted-printable turned on. -- Greetings, Maurice Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 The Bat! v3.51.8; ; Bayes Filter Plugin v2.0.3; AJS v0.6; MyMacros 1.11a; Current beta is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Sorting issue?
Hello tbbeta, I don't know if this is the right list, but I have a possible bug to report. I have found that if I sort messages by receive date, and the receive date is the same for some messages (that is, they are all fetched from pop3 in the same minute), they are shown in an order that is not the same they were received in. This is really annoying since it mixes up replies in lists, putting answers before questions. I think that when messages are sorted by receive date they should be sorted based on a millisecond counter, to be sure that even when fetched all together from the pop3 server (on a fast connection) they still get sorted in the right order, that is the order in which they actually got downloaded from the pop3 server. -- Fabio Kurgan Muzzi Using The Bat! v3.5.30 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current beta is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.51.10 Muggle Bat
Hallo Jay, On Wed, 27 Jul 2005 08:06:02 +0300GMT (27-7-2005, 7:06 +0200, where I live), you wrote: AY What I mean to say is that in 3.51.10 - and maybe in some earlier AY versions - I go to my Tools menu and see at the bottom an arrow that AY is unnamed (Voldemort?) pointing to a submenu that is empty and goes AY nowhere. Here are the contents of my tools menu, what are missing? Address Book Search Smartbat Scheduler Mail Chat - Export messages to arrow Import messages arrow - Backup Restore Synchronize - Privacy arrow OpenPGP arrow - Get new mail for all Send Queued mail for all Send + Check mail for all This is the not edited tools menu -- Groetjes, Roelof Water floats a ship...Water sinks a ship. Old Chinese Proverb The Bat! 3.51.10 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpyOdOgis3N2.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[3]: About 3.51 release
Hello all, Wednesday, July 27, 2005, Goncalo Farias wrote: JW o Will it give me an OTFE implementation that I can use (i.e. JW that will search my message base without hanging and also JW preserve my settings while migrating)? 9 Actually I don't think problems with search reported in list are 9 related to OTFE - it is problem of new search method and it is 9 still not finished. 9 Migration to OTFE will take all settings. Can we expect OTFE on an account basis? AFAIK no. -- Bye Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 3.51.10 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Notebook Acer, Pentium4-M 2.2 GHz, 512 MB RAM, ADSL line Current beta is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.51.10 Muggle Bat
On 7/27/05, Roelof Otten wrote: On Wed, 27 Jul 2005 08:06:02 +0300GMT (27-7-2005, 7:06 +0200, where I live), you wrote: AY What I mean to say is that in 3.51.10 - and maybe in some earlier AY versions - I go to my Tools menu and see at the bottom an arrow that AY is unnamed (Voldemort?) pointing to a submenu that is empty and goes AY nowhere. Here are the contents of my tools menu, what are missing? Address Book Search Smartbat Scheduler Mail Chat - Export messages to arrow Import messages arrow - Backup Restore Synchronize - Privacy arrow OpenPGP arrow - Get new mail for all Send Queued mail for all Send + Check mail for all This is the not edited tools menu Mine is also not an edited Tools menu. Never did any customization. But what I am missing is what used to be at the bottom and is still visible as a ghostly remnant - the Wizards. See my attached gif. -- jaywalker Windows XP Pro SP2 and The Bat! Pro (No OTFE) 3.51.10 ToolsMenu.gif Description: GIF image Current beta is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.51.10 Muggle Bat
Hello Jay, On Wednesday, July 27, 2005, at 4:05:30 AM, you wrote re: 3.51.10 Muggle Bat: JW Mine is also not an edited Tools menu. Never did any customization. JW But what I am missing is what used to be at the bottom and is still JW visible as a ghostly remnant - the Wizards. See my attached gif. I had the same problem. As Mary Bull indicated, this was fixed in the latest version (3.51.10) mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], but apparently (by my observation) some tbuuser.defs have become corrupted. I will repeat what I just posted under the topic RARed betas reset Menu shortcuts: I tried to modify a few Menu shortcuts and I ended up with multiple blank spots in my menus. I tried several times with the same result after hitting reset on the menu bar. Resolved: I had to delete my tbuser.def and allow it to be recreated. Then I could modify it as it normally should. Apparently somewhere along the line my tbuser.def got corrupted. Perhaps this explains a part of the anomalies I was experiencing. -- Cheers! Wayne Howard Using The Bat! version: 3.51.10 Directory Opus 8: The Explorer replacement and File Management solution for Windows See the tutorial: Getting to know Directory Opus: www.pretentiousname.com/opus/index.html#introduction Current beta is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.51.10 Muggle Bat
Hello Wayne, On Wednesday, July 27, 2005, at 5:14:08 AM, you wrote re: 3.51.10 Muggle Bat: WH I had the same problem. As Mary Bull indicated, this was fixed in the WH latest version (3.51.10) mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], but WH apparently (by my observation) some tbuuser.defs have become WH corrupted. I will repeat what I just posted under the topic RARed WH betas reset Menu shortcuts Further thought, I wonder if having a corrupted tbuser.def has anything to do with the memory leak problems some of user were experiencing! I noticed my shortcut modifications missing/blank menu items at about the same time that I noticed the growing TB memory usage problem. I will keep an eye on TB and see if it's memory footprint continues to grow now that I deleted my tbuser.def and started with a newly created one. -- Cheers! Wayne Howard Using The Bat! version: 3.51.10 Directory Opus 8: The Explorer replacement and File Management solution for Windows See the tutorial: Getting to know Directory Opus: www.pretentiousname.com/opus/index.html#introduction Current beta is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.51.10 Muggle Bat
Hello Wayne, On Wednesday, July 27, 2005, at 5:14:08 AM, you wrote re: 3.51.10 Muggle Bat: WH Resolved: I had to delete my tbuser.def and allow it to be recreated. WH Then I could modify it as it normally should. Apparently somewhere WH along the line my tbuser.def got corrupted. Perhaps this explains a WH part of the anomalies I was experiencing. I should also have said that you should backup your existing tbuser.def first. You will lose any modifications that you have made that are stored here. However, for me, remaking the few modifications I had was well worth it! -- Cheers! Wayne Howard Using The Bat! version: 3.51.10 Directory Opus 8: The Explorer replacement and File Management solution for Windows See the tutorial: Getting to know Directory Opus: www.pretentiousname.com/opus/index.html#introduction Current beta is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.51.10 Muggle Bat
On 7/27/05, Wayne Howard wrote: I should also have said that you should backup your existing tbuser.def first. You will lose any modifications that you have made that are stored here. However, for me, remaking the few modifications I had was well worth it! Recreating the tbuser.def file resolves the issue, but how many settings will I have to restore now? I seem to recall that a similar problem was resolved once before without forcing users to recreate their tbuser.def file. Furthermore, how did my tbuser.def file get corrupted? Presumably it happened when I tested OTFE by backing up and restoring in the effort to migrate. So somewhere, there is a process in TB that is corrupting this file. -- jaywalker Windows XP Pro SP2 and The Bat! Pro (No OTFE) 3.51.10 Current beta is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.51.10 Muggle Bat
Hello Jay, On Wednesday, July 27, 2005, at 6:24:50 AM, you wrote re: 3.51.10 Muggle Bat: JW Recreating the tbuser.def file resolves the issue, but how many JW settings will I have to restore now? I seem to recall that a similar JW problem was resolved once before without forcing users to recreate JW their tbuser.def file. It all depends on how many you created. I am not aware of all that it contains. I also discovered that it stores the theme information. JW Furthermore, how did my tbuser.def file get corrupted? Presumably JW it happened when I tested OTFE by backing up and restoring in the JW effort to migrate. So somewhere, there is a process in TB that is JW corrupting this file. I am the wrong person to ask. I discovered this on my own, with some help from Mary. As far as it being corrupted, that is my speculation. It could very well be that it simply has outmoded or superfluous entries. Look at it in notepad. It contains a lot of information! According to the repair listing I just mentioned, it was not being updated properly, so it would make sense that there several users with tbuser.def files that are corrupted or otherwise problematic. -- Cheers! Wayne Howard Using The Bat! version: 3.51.10 Directory Opus 8: The Explorer replacement and File Management solution for Windows See the tutorial: Getting to know Directory Opus: www.pretentiousname.com/opus/index.html#introduction Current beta is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
how long to unsubscribe?
Yesterday I sent TBBETA TBUDL unsubscribe requests to the address in the headers. I am still receiving list mail. How long does it usually take for unsubscribe requests to be completed? -- Dave Current beta is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.51.10 Muggle Bat
On 7/27/05, Wayne Howard wrote: I am the wrong person to ask. I discovered this on my own, with some help from Mary. As far as it being corrupted, that is my speculation. It could very well be that it simply has outmoded or superfluous entries. Look at it in notepad. It contains a lot of information! Yes, but that means that the cleanup is not taking place correctly with new versions. Anyway, thanks for helping to track down the problem, Wayne. I think that there is a bug here that RL must fix, but I imagine that the bug has already been reported in numerous places. So the only question that remains is: When will RL bring back the wizards to this muggled bat? -- jaywalker Windows XP Pro SP2 and The Bat! Pro (No OTFE) 3.51.10 Current beta is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: how long to unsubscribe?
On 7/27/05, Dave Gorman wrote: Yesterday I sent TBBETA TBUDL unsubscribe requests to the address in the headers. I am still receiving list mail. How long does it usually take for unsubscribe requests to be completed? Try going to the following URL: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html There are buttons in the middle of the page under Unsubscribing or Adjusting your Subscription that let you unsubscribe yourself. The effect should be immediate. -- jaywalker Windows XP Pro SP2 and The Bat! Pro (No OTFE) 3.51.10 Current beta is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.51.10 Muggle Bat
On Wednesday, July 27, 2005 at 4:14:08 AM [GMT -0500], Wayne Howard wrote: Resolved: I had to delete my tbuser.def and allow it to be recreated. Then I could modify it as it normally should. Apparently somewhere along the line my tbuser.def got corrupted. Perhaps this explains a part of the anomalies I was experiencing. The tbuser.def files seem to be quite prone to corruption. I guess that's testimony to how they're being changed as you customise. Mine was completely corrupted at one point and was the source of many AV's. I had to delete it and start clean. My current one already has a slight corruption, but I'm getting by without having to start clean yet again. -- -= Curtis =- The Bat! v3.51.10 System Specs: http://specs.aimlink.name -=-=- (A)bort, (R)etry, (P)anic? Current beta is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.51.10 Muggle Bat
On Wednesday, July 27, 2005 at 6:11:56 AM [GMT -0500], Jay Walker wrote: Anyway, thanks for helping to track down the problem, Wayne. I think that there is a bug here that RL must fix, but I imagine that the bug has already been reported in numerous places. So the only question that remains is: When will RL bring back the wizards to this muggled bat? One way to assist with this debugging is to submit the problem tbuser.def file for examination. They should be able to see where the problem is and hence how and when the corruption occurred. -- -= Curtis =- The Bat! v3.51.10 System Specs: http://specs.aimlink.name -=-=- Political panjandrums prologize pedantic paronomasia. Current beta is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.51.10 Muggle Bat
Hello Jay, On Wednesday, July 27, 2005, at 7:11:56 AM, you wrote re: 3.51.10 Muggle Bat: JW Anyway, thanks for helping to track down the problem, Wayne. I think JW that there is a bug here that RL must fix, but I imagine that the bug JW has already been reported in numerous places. So the only question JW that remains is: When will RL bring back the wizards to this muggled JW bat? It has. As I mentioned in my first post to you, see the following: this was fixed in the latest version (3.51.10) mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] However, I don't think the fix fixes tbuser.defs that are already corrupted/maligned. The fix prevents it from happening in the first place - or at least that's how I understand it. If I am wrong, gurus please speak up! :) -- Cheers! Wayne Howard Using The Bat! version: 3.51.10 Directory Opus 8: The Explorer replacement and File Management solution for Windows See the tutorial: Getting to know Directory Opus: www.pretentiousname.com/opus/index.html#introduction Current beta is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.51.10 Muggle Bat
Hello -=Curtis=-, On Wednesday, July 27, 2005, at 7:38:38 AM, you wrote re: 3.51.10 Muggle Bat: C AV's What is an AV? -- Cheers! Wayne Howard Using The Bat! version: 3.51.10 Directory Opus 8: The Explorer replacement and File Management solution for Windows See the tutorial: Getting to know Directory Opus: www.pretentiousname.com/opus/index.html#introduction Current beta is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: 3.51.10 Muggle Bat
Hello all, Wednesday, July 27, 2005, Wayne Howard wrote: C AV's What is an AV? abbreviation of Access Violation -- Bye Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 3.51.10 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Notebook Acer, Pentium4-M 2.2 GHz, 512 MB RAM, ADSL line Current beta is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
version confusion
Het is nu woensdag 27 juli 2005, 16:36:56 h : Hoi tbbeta, okay. these days I go for the daily-bat but it's not updated on a daily basis apparently. So I wanted to go back/forth to beta-10 but couldn't find it on my puter. sigh Hence, I went to the Ritlabs site and this is what I saw: Upcoming release version: 3.6 Latest test build: 3.51.8 Issues being resolved: Customisable interface and other improvements whatever happened to 9 (which I have) and 10 (which I lost?) Confused? you won't be after next weeks episode of Ritlabs! :) -- groeten, Cees You may be a computer geek if you need a checklist to turn on the TV __ The Bat! 3.51.9 [A12F0392] running on Windows XP 5.1 build 2600 Service Pack 2 smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current beta is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: version confusion
Hello Cees! On Wednesday, July 27, 2005, 9:39 AM, you wrote: whatever happened to 9 (which I have) and 10 (which I lost?) Confused? you won't be after next weeks episode of Ritlabs! :) Look on the public download page at www.ritlabs.com . 3.51 there is the same as 3.51.10. Was released publicly yesterday, and therefore earlier betas are no longer on the password-protected beta page. I *think* the above information is correct. It's what 9Val told me, or at least, what I understood him to be telling me. :) -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.51.10 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: version confusion
Het was op woensdag 27 juli 2005 om 16:51 uur dat jij iets schreef over 'version confusion' : Hoi Mary, whatever happened to 9 (which I have) and 10 (which I lost?) Confused? you won't be after next weeks episode of Ritlabs! :) MB Look on the public download page at www.ritlabs.com . MB 3.51 there is the same as 3.51.10. ah yes did have that one. Thing is: it offered me the options of Modify, Repair and Remove. First time I chose Modify which didn't do me much good since I still had version 9. Now I chose Repair which did work. Back to v10 again. ;) MB I *think* the above information is correct. It's what 9Val told me, or MB at least, what I understood him to be telling me. :) Czech's all Greek to me too :D -- groeten, Cees ADD Quote: More hit points than you can possibly imagine. __ The Bat! 3.51.10 [A12F0392] running on Windows XP 5.1 build 2600 Service Pack 2 smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current beta is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: version confusion
Hello Cees! On Wednesday, July 27, 2005, 10:01 AM, you wrote: MB I *think* the above information is correct. It's what 9Val told me, or MB at least, what I understood him to be telling me. :) Czech's all Greek to me too :D Bless your heart! I verily do not believe that 9Val is Czech! Rather, this is the flag that I think represents his country: :flag-moldavia: :) -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.51.10 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Bug-report repost: View mode: Group by date
Hello beta testers. I reported this for 3.5 RC7. No change since then. ,- [ mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] | I don't know when this features was introduced (quite cool, actually - | looks Outlook-like) but am I the only one who thinks it behaves | strangely? | | If I set up a view mode that has the following properties set on: | | * Group by date | * Descending order | * New thread sorting | * Sort by created | * Thread by references | | It all works well, except I would expect that the group Last year | would be the topmost and the Today group at the bottom. But it is the | other way around. Internally in the Today group, the oldest thread is | correctly topmost and the newest is at the bottom. `- -- greeting Best regards /greeting author Peter Fjelsten /author thebat version 3.51.10 Pro /thebat versionextras MyGate, AVG /extras env. ~11 POP3, 2 IMAP (MailMax 5.5) 1 IMAP (Exchange 6.5), 175K msgs. /env. os Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 /os Current beta is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.51.10 Muggle Bat
Hello Wayne, On Wed, 27 Jul 2005 09:09:40 -0400 GMT (27/07/2005, 20:09 +0700 GMT), Wayne Howard wrote: WH It has. As I mentioned in my first post to you, see the following: WH this was fixed in the latest version (3.51.10) WH mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] However, I don't think the fix WH fixes tbuser.defs that are already corrupted/maligned. The fix WH prevents it from happening in the first place - or at least that's how WH I understand it. Probably. I see the same empty menu item as you. But I am not willing to delete my tbuser.def file, because I don't know what I will have to reconfigure. What's the way out? -- Cheers, Thomas. Our parents were never our age. Message reply created with The Bat! 3.51.10 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Sorting issue?
Hello Stuart, On Wed, 27 Jul 2005 07:06:09 -0500 GMT (27/07/2005, 19:06 +0700 GMT), Stuart Cuddy wrote: SC Unless you have a specific reason for sorting by Received time you may SC want to switch by Created time. This way replies are usually after SC the original message. I have a specific reason to sort by received time instead of created time, and that is that many people don't seem to have their computer clocks set correctly. Like years or centuries wrong, but sometimes exactly 12 hours (I figure those people are not sure about the meaning of am and pm). I received message from Germans in Thailand who have set their computer clocks to Thai time but the time zone stills shows +0200 GMT. Oh well. But I have not experienced the problem that Fabio describes. Over here, it looks like TB is sorting the messages in the same order it receives them from the server. -- Cheers, Thomas. To really annoy people, stand on a street corner, pointing a hair drier at passing traffic, and watch it slow down. Message reply created with The Bat! 3.51.10 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.51.10 Muggle Bat
Hello Thomas, On Wednesday, July 27, 2005, at 1:11:17 PM, you wrote re: 3.51.10 Muggle Bat: TF Probably. I see the same empty menu item as you. But I am not willing TF to delete my tbuser.def file, because I don't know what I will have to TF reconfigure. TF What's the way out? I told you all I know about it. I am very much a novice using TB. Only recently did I start to dive in to some of the more advanced features. I did not have a lot of customization, so I simply deleted tbuser.def and allowed TB to recreate it upon restart. I then added the few configuration changes back. It's nice to have things working normally again! -- Cheers! Wayne Howard Using The Bat! version: 3.51.10 Directory Opus 8: The Explorer replacement and File Management solution for Windows See the tutorial: Getting to know Directory Opus: www.pretentiousname.com/opus/index.html#introduction Current beta is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: 3.51.10 Muggle Bat
Hello all, Wednesday, July 27, 2005, Thomas Fernandez wrote: Probably. I see the same empty menu item as you. But I am not willing to delete my tbuser.def file, because I don't know what I will have to reconfigure. What's the way out? Wizards item in Tools menu was available in older builds, but it was hided in thebat.exe already. When is new tbuser.def created, item is not displayed. But if was tbuser.def created by old betaversion with this item included, it can't be automatically hided by new build, current version can't delete only part of tbuser.def. Now You have more ways to solve this: - delete tbuser.def (You loose all GUI settings) - reset Main form in Customiser (You loose only menu changes in main window) - delete part from tbuser.def manually: close TB open tbuser.def find following part: hr container item [MailerForm].[mWizards] { item [MailerForm].[Wizards] hr item [MailerForm].[mwDownloadWizards] } delete it Enjoy :-) -- Bye Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 3.51.10 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Notebook Acer, Pentium4-M 2.2 GHz, 512 MB RAM, ADSL line Current beta is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.51.10 Muggle Bat
Hello Marek, On Wednesday, July 27, 2005, at 1:40:44 PM, you wrote re: 3.51.10 Muggle Bat: MM - delete part from tbuser.def manually: MM close TB MM open tbuser.def MM find following part: hr container item [MailerForm].[mWizards] { item [MailerForm].[Wizards] hr item [MailerForm].[mwDownloadWizards] } MM delete it What does this part of your explanation do? Thanks! -- Cheers! Wayne Howard Using The Bat! version: 3.51.10 Directory Opus 8: The Explorer replacement and File Management solution for Windows See the tutorial: Getting to know Directory Opus: www.pretentiousname.com/opus/index.html#introduction Current beta is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.51.10 Muggle Bat
Hello all, Wednesday, July 27, 2005, Wayne Howard wrote: MM - delete part from tbuser.def manually: MM close TB MM open tbuser.def MM find following part: hr container item [MailerForm].[mWizards] { item [MailerForm].[Wizards] hr item [MailerForm].[mwDownloadWizards] } MM delete it What does this part of your explanation do? removes unused Wizards items from main menu Tools, TB displays what it finds in tbuser.def or in def file included in thebat.exe. -- Bye Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 3.51.10 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Notebook Acer, Pentium4-M 2.2 GHz, 512 MB RAM, ADSL line Current beta is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.51.10 Muggle Bat
Hello Marek, On Wednesday, July 27, 2005, at 2:15:26 PM, you wrote re: 3.51.10 Muggle Bat: What does this part of your explanation do? MM removes unused Wizards items from main menu Tools, TB displays MM what it finds in tbuser.def or in def file included in thebat.exe. I guess I didn't follow that because I don't recall the Wizards. Thanks! -- Cheers! Wayne Howard Using The Bat! version: 3.51.10 Directory Opus 8: The Explorer replacement and File Management solution for Windows See the tutorial: Getting to know Directory Opus: www.pretentiousname.com/opus/index.html#introduction Current beta is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.51.10 Muggle Bat
Hello Marek Mikus everyone else, on 27-Jul-2005 at 19:40 you (Marek Mikus) wrote: find following part: hr container item [MailerForm].[mWizards] { item [MailerForm].[Wizards] hr item [MailerForm].[mwDownloadWizards] } delete it This is still too complicated for my taste. I'd like to have a WYSIWYG editor for the GUI that allows me to arrange the items with my mouse or keyboard, you could say Opera style... -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) This shock which separates the end of one life from the beginning of the next...is too strong for ordinary man, who has no choice but to forget and fall asleep. -- Rodney Collin Current beta is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.51.10 Muggle Bat
Hello all, Wednesday, July 27, 2005, Alexander S. Kunz wrote: find following part: hr container item [MailerForm].[mWizards] { item [MailerForm].[Wizards] hr item [MailerForm].[mwDownloadWizards] } delete it This is still too complicated for my taste. I'd like to have a WYSIWYG editor for the GUI that allows me to arrange the items with my mouse or keyboard, you could say Opera style... there is a customiser available, where You can use Hidden item, but current version doesn't allow to hide group, only items can be hided. AFAIK this will be fixed, group will be hided automatically, when all sub-items are hided manually. -- Bye Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 3.51.10 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Notebook Acer, Pentium4-M 2.2 GHz, 512 MB RAM, ADSL line Current beta is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.51.10 Muggle Bat
Hello Wayne! On Wednesday, July 27, 2005, 1:35 PM, you wrote: What does this part of your explanation do? MM removes unused Wizards items from main menu Tools, TB displays MM what it finds in tbuser.def or in def file included in thebat.exe. I guess I didn't follow that because I don't recall the Wizards. Thanks! They were before you were on this list, a beta even before the Customiser interface series. Made possible an alternative way to make a filter. Probably it's envisioned to have a whole series of them down the road (just guessing from posts I've read) but the item is off the menu for now, unless conserved by someone who has been installing The Bat! over whatever is his/her current installation. I didn't really like them. I liked the NFS (sorting office) system better. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.51.10 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[3]: 3.51.10 Muggle Bat
Hello Marek, On Wednesday, July 27, 2005 at 19:40:44 GMT +0200 (which was 19:40:44 where I live), Marek Mikus wrote and made these valuable points on the subject of 3.51.10 Muggle Bat: Hello all, Wednesday, July 27, 2005, Thomas Fernandez wrote: Probably. I see the same empty menu item as you. But I am not willing to delete my tbuser.def file, because I don't know what I will have to reconfigure. What's the way out? Wizards item in Tools menu was available in older builds, but it was hided in thebat.exe already. When is new tbuser.def created, item is not displayed. But if was tbuser.def created by old betaversion with this item included, it can't be automatically hided by new build, current version can't delete only part of tbuser.def. Now You have more ways to solve this: - delete tbuser.def (You loose all GUI settings) - reset Main form in Customiser (You loose only menu changes in main window) - delete part from tbuser.def manually: close TB open tbuser.def find following part: hr container item [MailerForm].[mWizards] { item [MailerForm].[Wizards] hr item [MailerForm].[mwDownloadWizards] } delete it Enjoy :-) Uuhhh...any hints how I can achieve this when I'm using OTFE, i.e. having a tbuser.EEF file rather than a tbuser.def? -- Best regards, Dick ___ Better living through denial. Using The Bat! v3.51.10 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Privacy is your right...only if you defend it: http://www.metropipe.net/landing.cgi?id=cloggy Current beta is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.51.10 Muggle Bat
Hello all, Wednesday, July 27, 2005, Dick Hoogendoorn wrote: Uuhhh...any hints how I can achieve this when I'm using OTFE, i.e. having a tbuser.EEF file rather than a tbuser.def? maybe there is another solution. Open Customiser, select Main menu container, select Tools menu item and check, what is last item in it. If Wizards, click to it and then use green left arrow icon for removing it. -- Bye Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 3.51.10 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Notebook Acer, Pentium4-M 2.2 GHz, 512 MB RAM, ADSL line Current beta is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Old Smiley Quoting Bug still present in 3.51.10
Hello Ian! On Wednesday, July 27, 2005, 5:49 PM, you wrote: It appears that for the smiley to quote, it must have printable white space after it. It does not quote if there is nothing after it, or if there is just a carriage return and line feed only after it. Can anyone confirm :( Confirmed. I got a verify-wait notification from Diman Pavlov, to whom this issue is assigned. I put a note, subsequent to receiving that, that the issue is not fixed in v. 3.51.10. I put the steps to reproduce in once more, and referred also to the last note, from Natasha v. Pearce, who had noted what you describe in her supporting note for the occurrence in 3.51.9. I have since received a further BT notification, changing the status to Verify-Fail. Thank you so much for writing so clearly about this here, Ian. If you would like to, perhaps you will add another supporting note, in regard to the bug's still being present in v. 3.51.10. I would very much appreciate your doing that. http://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=3889 Diman Pavlov is trying hard to solve this! :) -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.51.10 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Old Smiley Quoting Bug still present in 3.51.10
Hello all, Thursday, July 28, 2005, Ian A. White wrote: I received an update to the BT item advising that this bug had been fixed, but in reality it has not. BT report was fixed today, latest build was released yesterday, You must expect this bugfix in next build, not in previous. -- Bye Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 3.51.10 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Notebook Acer, Pentium4-M 2.2 GHz, 512 MB RAM, ADSL line Current beta is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Old Smiley Quoting Bug still present in 3.51.10
Hoi Ian If the smiley is the last item on a line and you select that line for quoting, it depends on what you select as to whether it will selectively quote or not. If you drag the cursor so that the smiley at the end of the line is just selected, it will not quote. If you select the line with the smiley at the end and the very start of the following line (not selecting anything on that line itself), it will not quote. If you select the line with the smiley at the end, plus the following blank line and the very start of the the next line, the smiley will quote. It appears that for the smiley to quote, it must have printable white space after it. It does not quote if there is nothing after it, or if there is just a carriage return and line feed only after it. Can anyone confirm :( Absolutely. In addition, as I wrote in my note attached to the BT, any smiley on the last line will not be quoted unless another line/paragraph below the one with the smiley/s is selected. But only if the last characters represent a smiley, it seems. -- Groetjes Natasha The Bat! 3.51.10 Pro on Windows XP Pro 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Old Smiley Quoting Bug still present in 3.51.10
Hello Marek! On Wednesday, July 27, 2005, 6:04 PM, you wrote: I received an update to the BT item advising that this bug had been fixed, but in reality it has not. BT report was fixed today, latest build was released yesterday, You must expect this bugfix in next build, not in previous. So, but after I put a note that it was not fixed in v. 3.51.10, a BT notification came to me changing the status to Verify-Fail. Are you saying the bug has subsequent to the change of status to Verify-Fail now been fixed? -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.51.10 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: version confusion
miércoles, 27 jul 2005 at 16:39, it seems you wrote: Upcoming release version: 3.6 Latest test build: 3.51.8 WHAT? Ritlabs, please, number the upcoming release version as 3.60. -- /\/ Using The Bat! 3.51.10 Professional with OTFE / \ / \ / Windows XP (5.1.2600 Service Pack 1) /\/ e t \/ i c i o u s Plugins: BayesIt! 0.8.1 and miniRelayPlug 0.05.50 Last 24 hour Spam% it's 33% Moderator of Spanish TBUDL Spanish Translation Coordinator of The Bat! Current beta is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Old Smiley Quoting Bug still present in 3.51.10
Hello Natasha! On Wednesday, July 27, 2005, 6:08 PM, you wrote: Can anyone confirm :( Absolutely. In addition, as I wrote in my note attached to the BT, any smiley on the last line will not be quoted unless another line/paragraph below the one with the smiley/s is selected. But only if the last characters represent a smiley, it seems. Natasha, if you have the time, could you put a further note to that effect at http://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=3889 The status has now been changed from Verify-Fail to Verify-Wait. But it won't hurt to get this further comment on the record. Just in case the bug fix doesn't hold up in the next beta, where Marek Mikus does say it will appear as fixed. mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.51.10 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Old Smiley Quoting Bug still present in 3.51.10
Hello Ian! On Wednesday, July 27, 2005, 6:12 PM, you wrote: MB If you would like to, perhaps you will add another supporting note, in MB regard to the bug's still being present in v. 3.51.10. I would very MB much appreciate your doing that. MB http://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=3889 I have. I post under the nickname of raj on BT ;-). That's another story! Bless you! Well, we just have to see what the next beta brings us now. :) -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.51.10 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Old Smiley Quoting Bug still present in 3.51.10
Hoi Mary Natasha, if you have the time, could you put a further note to that effect at http://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=3889 Already done. :realtardis: -- Groetjes Natasha The Bat! 3.51.10 Pro on Windows XP Pro 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Old Smiley Quoting Bug still present in 3.51.10
Hello Natasha! On Wednesday, July 27, 2005, 6:19 PM, you wrote: Natasha, if you have the time, could you put a further note to that effect at http://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=3889 Already done. :realtardis: I am soo behind-the-times! Thanks a mil for the support!! :) Well, when Diman Pavlov changed the status from Verify-Fail back to Verify-Wait, the version it says it is fixed in is conserved as v. 3.51.10. Possibly that's a typo or an oversight. It is most certainly *NOT* fixed in v. 3.51.10. :( I guess we just have to wait for the next beta release, to see if it really is fixed. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.51.10 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Old Smiley Quoting Bug still present in 3.51.10
Hoi Mary I guess we just have to wait for the next beta release, to see if it really is fixed. I've just checked the daily build link: this still retrieves 3.51.9 - so no help there. The change log (whichcanalsobefoundat http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/daily.txt ) lists this bug as having been fixed on 22.07.2005. -- Groetjes Natasha The Bat! 3.51.10 Pro on Windows XP Pro 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: version confusion
On 7/28/05, NetVicious wrote: miércoles, 27 jul 2005 at 16:39, it seems you wrote: Upcoming release version: 3.6 Latest test build: 3.51.8 WHAT? Ritlabs, please, number the upcoming release version as 3.60. NV, I completely agree, but... as others have argued... TB has traditions to maintain, one of which seems to be its curious mathematics. According to the argument, as much of it as I could grasp, 3.6 is the same as 3.60 (just as 3.5 was the same as the 3.50 that we never saw). Go figure. :-) -- jaywalker Windows XP Pro SP2 and The Bat! Pro (No OTFE) 3.51.10 Current beta is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
PM Re: Old Smiley Quoting Bug still present in 3.51.10
Hello Natasha! Thanks for this welcome Private Mail! On Wednesday, July 27, 2005, 6:51 PM, you wrote: I guess we just have to wait for the next beta release, to see if it really is fixed. I've just checked the daily build link: this still retrieves 3.51.9 - so no help there. The change log (whichcanalsobe found at http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/daily.txt ) lists this bug as having been fixed on 22.07.2005. Here's the history: 1) BT notification came down as fixed in 3.51.10. Status: Verify-Wait. 2) I contested that it was fixed, in a note added on the BT issue report page. 3) BT notification came down changing the status from Verify-Wait to Verify-Fail. 4) Marek Mikus replied to Ian White on TBBBETA that the fix was subsequent to the release of v. 3.51.10. 5) I posted to Marek asking him to clarify the statement in the light of the Verify-Fail status report that I had received. 6) BT notification arrived here, changing status from Verify-Fail back to Verify-Wait. Version listed as fixed in remains v. 3.51.10 on the BT issue report page. 7) I added a note on that page asking Diman Pavlov for clarification. No further BT notifications have arrived here since then. Unlike your experience with your report of the dropped-characters bug, all my communications from RitLabs have been formal and public--nothing from Diman Pavlov except what appears on the BT page, and posts (not directly to me) on TBBETA by Marek Mikus. So--as I say--seems to be a case of wait and see. I do hope it is already fixed! Thanks for all your constant support! Thank you also for the long PM that was on my machine this morning. I hope to answer it soon. I enjoyed it very much. :hearteyes: -- Love always, Mary The Bat 3.51.10 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: PM Re: Old Smiley Quoting Bug still present in 3.51.10
Hello Mary! On Wednesday, July 27, 2005, 7:07 PM, you wrote: Thanks for this welcome Private Mail! On Wednesday, July 27, 2005, 6:51 PM, you wrote: I guess we just have to wait for the next beta release, to see if it really is fixed. I've just checked the daily build link: this still retrieves 3.51.9 - so no help there. The change log (whichcanalsobe found at http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/daily.txt ) lists this bug as having been fixed on 22.07.2005. Well, I guess I have a messed-up filter. Wasn't a PM. And I'm getting a little tired at the end of a long day, so I failed to double-check my To field before sending. However, nothing that the world isn't welcome to see in my unintentional reply here on TBBETA. I appreciate the warm support from Natasha and from everyone else on this list. Although I am, at present, a little embarrassed at this latest slip of mine. :( Apologies to Natasha and to the list. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.51.10 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: PM Re: Old Smiley Quoting Bug still present in 3.51.10
Hoi Mary Well, I guess I have a messed-up filter. Wasn't a PM. And I'm getting a little tired at the end of a long day, so I failed to double-check my To field before sending. Happens to us all at one time or another. Apologies to Natasha and to the list. None necessary to me, and I'm sure this list has indulged far worse slips than this in the past. Several very long rants from me come to mind. :) -- Groetjes Natasha The Bat! 3.51.10 Pro on Windows XP Pro 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: PM Re: Old Smiley Quoting Bug still present in 3.51.10
Hello Natasha! On Wednesday, July 27, 2005, 7:26 PM, you wrote: Well, I guess I have a messed-up filter. Wasn't a PM. And I'm getting a little tired at the end of a long day, so I failed to double-check my To field before sending. Happens to us all at one time or another. Apologies to Natasha and to the list. None necessary to me, and I'm sure this list has indulged far worse slips than this in the past. Several very long rants from me come to mind. :) Thanks. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.51.10 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.51.10 Muggle Bat
Hello Marek, On Wed, 27 Jul 2005 19:40:44 +0200 GMT (28/07/2005, 00:40 +0700 GMT), Marek Mikus wrote: MM But if was tbuser.def created by old betaversion with this item MM included, it can't be automatically hided by new build, current MM version can't delete only part of tbuser.def. MM Now You have more ways to solve this: MM - delete part from tbuser.def manually: MM close TB MM open tbuser.def MM find following part: hr container item [MailerForm].[mWizards] { item [MailerForm].[Wizards] hr item [MailerForm].[mwDownloadWizards] } MM delete it Instead of item [MailerForm].[mwDownloadWizards] I had another hr there. Anyway, deleted the part and my meny now looks fine! Thanks. One little remark: I first forgot to delete the last }. Of course this meant unbalanced brackets and caused an error when opening TB. The effect was that TB didn't open but (after the splash screen) Windows suggested I should send an error message to MicroSoft. Just saying, this kind of runtime error should be checked by TB, even though it wouldn't usually happen. MM Enjoy :-) Doing so greatly. :-) -- Cheers, Thomas. Nothing is fool-proof to a sufficiently talented fool. Message reply created with The Bat! 3.51.10 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: PM Re: Old Smiley Quoting Bug still present in 3.51.10
On 7/28/05, Mary Bull [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Natasha! Come on, girls, please take it offline already. That's four messages so far, and I am starting to feel like a captive voyeur. :yech: -- jaywalker Windows XP Pro SP2 and The Bat! Pro (No OTFE) 3.51.10 Current beta is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
IMAP counters and common folders
Hi everyone Anyone else experiencing the following? 1. Setup a Read Messages filter for an IMAP Inbox to send each message to a common folder when it's marked read. 2. Read a message in the IMAP Inbox. 3. On exiting the following are true: a. The message is moved to the appropriate common folder - good. b. No message in the common folder is marked as unread. Nor does any message appear - in terms of its color group - as though it's marked unread - good. c. The folder list count of unread messages for the common folder increments by 1 - bad. d. If there were no unread messages previously in the common folder, the folder's appearance in the folder list changes as though it contained an unread message - bad. Selecting the common folder resets both counter and color-group-related appearance of the folder in the folder list to reflect the real situation - ie, no unread messages in the common folder. -- Groetjes Natasha The Bat! 3.51.10 Pro on Windows XP Pro 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
More Confusion about Lycos Mail
I just thought to download the 3.51 MSI to test how it upgrades a simple, largely non-functional OTFE installation on a desktop that I rarely use. So once again I had an opportunity to see the advert for Lycos Mail. I must admit that I still find that advert confusing, mainly because it appears to be somewhat misleading. The short blurb on Lycos Mail states that you get 1Gb storage, but when you go to the Web site from the Sign Up hyperlink, you see that the free option only gives 300Mb storage. To get 1Gb, you must pay for a LycosMax account. In fact, if you pay a little more, you can get 10Gb with a Lycos Personal account. So my question is: Am I missing something here. We learned that users of TB will get free POP3 access, and that is also mentioned on the Lycos Mail Web page. But do TB users also get a free upgrade to 1Gb storage as well? If so, nothing is mentioned about that on the Lycos Mail Web page. -- jaywalker Windows XP Pro SP2 and The Bat! Pro (No OTFE) 3.51.10 Current beta is 3.51.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/