Re: test creating @thebat.net
Hi Maxim, on Saturday, October 6, 2007 at 22:21 you wrote in message mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] among others: Hello Thomas, Saturday, October 06, 2007, 23:15:44, you wrote: I thought so. Does one of the pages below work properly? https://www.ritlabs.com/en/thebat.net/3.php https://www.ritlabs.com/de/thebat.net/3.php Yes, the German one! https://www.ritlabs.com/ru/thebat.net/3.php -- Best regards, Roland I use The Bat! v3.99.24 Pro under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2! Schnellvorlage PGP konnte nicht gefunden werden Current beta is 3.99.24 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: test creating @thebat.net
On Sun, 7 Oct 2007, at 08:20:38 [GMT +0300] (which was 7:20 where I live) Maxim Masiutin wrote: https://www.ritlabs.com/en/thebat.net/3.php https://www.ritlabs.com/de/thebat.net/3.php https://www.ritlabs.com/ru/thebat.net/3.php Thank you, we have fixed this error. Could you please try again? Access denied -- Henk M. de Bruijn __ The Bat! E-Mail System version 3.99.24 Pro on Windows XP SP2 AntispamSniper for the Bat! 2.6.1.2 pgpyjpJySkp4t.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.99.24 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: test creating @thebat.net
Hello Ian, Sunday, October 07, 2007, 8:59:19, you wrote: I am not getting that error, but no matter what I try I get Access Denied. I have gone through the lost password process and my username is correctly identified, but no matter what I do I cannot get through. What is your login name on the www.ritlabs.com site? Could you please send it to my privately to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Best regards, Maxim Masiutinmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current beta is 3.99.24 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: test creating @thebat.net
Hello Henk, Sunday, October 07, 2007, 9:31:49, you wrote: Access denied Whoever gets this error, please send me your login name to [EMAIL PROTECTED] , I will check this issue. -- Best regards, Maxim Masiutinmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current beta is 3.99.24 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: test creating @thebat.net
Hello Maxim, Saturday, October 6, 2007, 10:21:26 PM, among other things, you wrote: MM https://www.ritlabs.com/en/thebat.net/3.php MM https://www.ritlabs.com/de/thebat.net/3.php MM https://www.ritlabs.com/ru/thebat.net/3.php MM Does one of the pages below work properly? I've tried https://www.ritlabs.com/en/thebat.net/3.php but when I ask it for my password it does not recognise mu current address. If I use my old address it recognises it and says it will send details, but of course I do not receive them. At the time I changed my address I asked Ritlabs to change it everywhere, but it seems the change was not extended to my registration details. Old address at time of purchase was [EMAIL PROTECTED] and my current address is [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Can you please have this fixed. Many thanks Maxim. -- Best regards, Roger :flag-southafrica: The Bat! v3.99.24 with AntiSpamSniper 2.6.1.2, on Windows XP, version 5 1, build 2600 and Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.99.24 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: test creating @thebat.net
Hello Roger, On Sun, 7 Oct 2007 you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] RP I've tried https://www.ritlabs.com/en/thebat.net/3.php but when I ask it for RP my password it does not recognise mu current address. If I use my old RP address it recognises it and says it will send details, but of course I do RP not receive them. At the time I changed my address I asked Ritlabs to change RP it everywhere, but it seems the change was not extended to my registration RP details. Same here. My old address was [EMAIL PROTECTED] and the new one is [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Regards, Richard | The Bat! 3.99.24 with POP3 account AntispamSniper 2.6.1.5 | Windows XP (build 2600) version 5.1 Service Pack 2 | F-Prot AV, Outpost Firewall Pro, Spysweeper, Adaware, SpyBot | CPU: Athlon 1.09 Ghz | RAM: 1024 MB Holiday in France: http://perso.wanadoo.fr/lazyhomes/holiday.html Current beta is 3.99.24 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: test creating @thebat.net
Hi Maxim Masiutin, Sunday, October 7, 2007 you let us know -possibly edited- : Hello Charlene, Saturday, October 06, 2007, 23:27:41, you wrote: https://www.ritlabs.com/en/thebat.net/3.php https://www.ritlabs.com/de/thebat.net/3.php https://www.ritlabs.com/ru/thebat.net/3.php I took the second one and tried to register and got Fatal error: Call to undefined function springf() in /home/site/www/ru/thebat.net/3.php on line 450 Thank you, we have fixed this error. Could you please try again? Thank you for fixing, the response I got was containing some information about settings I have to take care about using my Gmail-account. -- kind regards Charlene Ferrara mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.99.24 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Skype: charleneferrara Current beta is 3.99.24 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[4]: test creating @thebat.net
Hello Roger, Sunday, October 07, 2007, 11:02:31, you wrote: I've tried https://www.ritlabs.com/en/thebat.net/3.php but when I ask it for my password it does not recognise mu current address. If I use my old address it recognises it and says it will send details, but of course I do not receive them. At the time I changed my address I asked Ritlabs to change it everywhere, but it seems the change was not extended to my registration details. Old address at time of purchase was [EMAIL PROTECTED] and my current address is [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Can you please have this fixed. Many thanks Maxim. The login to www.ritlabs.com has nothing in common with your e-mail address at the time of purchase. If you have ever created a login to www.ritlabs.com, than please use this login. If you didn't ever login to www.ritlabs.com, please create a new login. -- Best regards, Maxim Masiutinmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current beta is 3.99.24 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: test creating @thebat.net
Hello Richard, Sunday, October 07, 2007, 13:08:07, you wrote: Same here. My old address was [EMAIL PROTECTED] and the new one is [EMAIL PROTECTED] The e-mail address is not used at all to login to www.ritlabs.com. Please see my previous reply to TBBETA: the login to www.ritlabs.com has nothing in common with your e-mail address at the time of purchase. If you have ever created a login to www.ritlabs.com, than please use this login. If you didn't ever login to www.ritlabs.com, please create a new login. -- Best regards, Maxim Masiutinmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current beta is 3.99.24 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Enable POP access
Hello Tbbeta, Unfrotunately, until we resolve this issue, you will have to login once via the web interface to www.thebat.net to enable POP access. Once you login and agree to the terms, you will see this screen http://www.google.com/mail/help/images/screenshots/enable_pop/pop.gif under Forwarding and POP task. I hope that this screen is quite self-explaining. -- Best regards, Maxim Masiutin mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current beta is 3.99.24 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Access Denied at www.ritlabs.com
Hello Tbbeta, Who had a problem Access Denied at www.ritlabs.com, please try again! We have fixed the problem. -- Best regards, Maxim Masiutin mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current beta is 3.99.24 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Access Denied at www.ritlabs.com
On Sun, 7 Oct 2007, at 13:34:44 [GMT +0200] (which was 13:34 where I live) Peter Hampf wrote: Answering a current message (Sunday, October 7, 2007, 13:26) MM Who had a problem Access Denied at www.ritlabs.com, please try again! We have fixed the problem. problem solved, login successful, GMail thebat.net account created and activated. Confirmed! -- Henk M. de Bruijn __ The Bat! E-Mail System version 3.99.24 Pro on Windows XP SP2 AntispamSniper for the Bat! 2.6.1.2 pgpI0HHkUU8rF.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.99.24 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[5]: test creating @thebat.net
Hello Maxim, Sunday, October 7, 2007, 12:42:57 PM, among other things, you wrote: MM The login to www.ritlabs.com has nothing in common with your e-mail MM address at the time of purchase. I know. MM If you have ever created a login to www.ritlabs.com, than please use MM this login. As I explained before, I could not obtain my old password because I had changed my address. MM If you didn't ever login to MM www.ritlabs.com, please create a new login. I created a new login and then accessed https://www.ritlabs.com/en/thebat.net/3.phpafter and tried to login using my new password, but was not recognised! I tnen asked for my password and after going through the procedure for changing it, was allowed login and my new e-mail account was created. Hope this helps you figure out any problems still existing. -- Best regards, Roger :flag-southafrica: The Bat! v3.99.24 with AntiSpamSniper 2.6.1.2, on Windows XP, version 5 1, build 2600 and Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.99.24 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Enable POP access
Hello Maxim, On Sun, 7 Oct 2007 13:46:51 +0300 GMT (07/10/2007, 17:46 +0700 GMT), Maxim Masiutin wrote: MM Once you login and agree to the terms, you will see this screen MM http://www.google.com/mail/help/images/screenshots/enable_pop/pop.gif MM under Forwarding and POP task. I hope that this MM screen is quite self-explaining. I was just about to report that I cannot receive messages. What you describe above worked. I just received my test message from this account at the new thebat.net account. Thanks. -- Cheers, Thomas. Kommt ein Mann in ne Bank: Haende raus, Geld hoch, ich bin eine Geisel! - Gell, Sie wollen's in Schilling? http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 3.99.3 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.99.24 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Access Denied at www.ritlabs.com
Hi Peter, Sunday, October 7, 2007, 5:34:44 AM, you wrote: Answering a current message (Sunday, October 7, 2007, 13:26) Hello Max, MM Who had a problem Access Denied at www.ritlabs.com, please try again! We have fixed the problem. problem solved, login successful, GMail thebat.net account created and activated. As I have posted a day or so ago, mine is activated also and working well. I somehow managed to work around the initial difficulties (error screen) and activated my thebat.net account in the gmail system. -- Take Care, Bob mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 3.99.24 (beta) on Windows XP 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.99.24 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: test creating @thebat.net
On Saturday, October 06, 2007 it appears that Maxim Masiutin wrote the following in regards to test creating @thebat.net: MM Could you please test creating @thebat.net mail account based on MM the login name of your www.ritlabs.com ? MM thebat.net is google-based mail hosting that provides spam and MM virus-free POP3/SMTP with webmail MM We have made the forms that simplify the account creation for MM registered users of The Bat! MM https://www.ritlabs.com/en/thebat.net/3.php Hi Maxim. I tested this one successfully w/o any problems. I can now send via smtp but have yet to rcv a msg via pop even tho all settings are correct. Possibly it takes a while to reach me. Thank you. -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA TB!3.99.24, , Windows 2000, Service Pack 4 Current beta is 3.99.24 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: test creating @thebat.net
Hello Maxim, On Sun, 7 Oct 2007 you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] MM If you have ever created a login to www.ritlabs.com, than please use this login. That's the one I'm using. I can log into the bugtrack with no problem but this page - absolutely nothing :-( -- Regards, Richard | The Bat! 3.99.24 with POP3 account AntispamSniper 2.6.1.5 | Windows XP (build 2600) version 5.1 Service Pack 2 | F-Prot AV, Outpost Firewall Pro, Spysweeper, Adaware, SpyBot | CPU: Athlon 1.09 Ghz | RAM: 1024 MB Holiday in France: http://perso.wanadoo.fr/lazyhomes/holiday.html Current beta is 3.99.24 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: test creating @thebat.net
Hello Richard, Sunday, October 07, 2007, 17:16:14, you wrote: That's the one I'm using. I can log into the bugtrack with no problem but this page - absolutely nothing :-( Unfortunately, the bugtracker has different login databse, opposing to the rest of www.ritlabs.com -- Best regards, Maxim Masiutinmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current beta is 3.99.24 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Enable POP access
From: Maxim Masiutin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Enable POP access Hello Tbbeta, Unfrotunately, until we resolve this issue, you will have to login once via the web interface to www.thebat.net to enable POP access. Once you login and agree to the terms, you will see this screen http://www.google.com/mail/help/images/screenshots/enable_pop/pop.gif under Forwarding and POP task. I hope that this screen is quite self-explaining. Hi Maxim, This is about as simple as it could be... @thebat.net set up and working just dandy :) Best Regards, Jim Current beta is 3.99.24 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Sending from thebat.net
Hello List, I sent a test message via TB! from my thebat.net account to another account of mine. It didn't arrive, even though there was no problem in the log. All the settings are as instructed. Hm. So I checked the spam folder at GMX. And there it was! I have now whitelisted my own address at thebat.net. I also subscribed to TBBETA from that address an hour ago, but haven't received a message asking for confirmation yet. Any chance it also ended up in the administrators' spam file? -- Cheers, Thomas. Next Sunday a special collection will be taken to defray the cost of the new carpet. All those wishing to do something on the new carpet will come forward and do so. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 3.99.3 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.99.24 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: test creating @thebat.net
Hello Maxim, On Sun, 7 Oct 2007 you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] MM Unfortunately, the bugtracker has different login databse, opposing MM to the rest of www.ritlabs.com No. I have the same login for both. I managed to get my password sent to me but it's the one I knew it would be anyway so I don't know what's happening. It's not important though is it because I can't see myself using @thebat.net. -- Regards, Richard | The Bat! 3.99.24 with POP3 account AntispamSniper 2.6.1.5 | Windows XP (build 2600) version 5.1 Service Pack 2 | F-Prot AV, Outpost Firewall Pro, Spysweeper, Adaware, SpyBot | CPU: Athlon 1.09 Ghz | RAM: 1024 MB Holiday in France: http://perso.wanadoo.fr/lazyhomes/holiday.html Current beta is 3.99.24 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: test creating @thebat.net
Hello Maxim, On Sun, 7 Oct 2007 you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] MM Unfortunately, the bugtracker has different login databse, opposing MM to the rest of www.ritlabs.com Tried again just because I had a couple of free minutes and I've finally been successful! Don't know why but it's worked. I now have an account. -- Regards, Richard | The Bat! 3.99.24 with POP3 account AntispamSniper 2.6.1.5 | Windows XP (build 2600) version 5.1 Service Pack 2 | F-Prot AV, Outpost Firewall Pro, Spysweeper, Adaware, SpyBot | CPU: Athlon 1.09 Ghz | RAM: 1024 MB Holiday in France: http://perso.wanadoo.fr/lazyhomes/holiday.html Current beta is 3.99.24 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Access Denied at www.ritlabs.com
Hello Peter, on Sunday, 7. October 2007, at 13:34:56 [GMT +0200] you wrote regarding Access Denied at www.ritlabs.com: MM Who had a problem Access Denied at www.ritlabs.com, please try again! MM We have fixed the problem. problem solved, login successful, GMail thebat.net account created and activated. Sorry folks but what is the sence of all this, creating an account on a SPAMMER Provider and email adress as thebat.net? I am missing something here? -- Ciao Thomas Using: TheBat! 3.99.24 System: Windows XP Build 2600 Service Pack 2 PGP:Key-ID: 0x70D9F03B Visit: TheBat! World on http://www.thebatworld.de Current beta is 3.99.24 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: test creating @thebat.net
Hello Richard, Sunday, October 07, 2007, 18:23:57, you wrote: Tried again just because I had a couple of free minutes and I've finally been successful! Don't know why but it's worked. I now have an account. If somebody could not login properly, that was probably because of session information was somehow cached on the client side. I did update the user's groups today and my updates might not been updated. If you logout and then login again, for example using https://www.ritlabs.com/en/thebat.net/3.php?logout=yes , the update should have taken place. -- Best regards, Maxim Masiutinmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current beta is 3.99.24 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Access Denied at www.ritlabs.com
Hello Thomas, Sunday, October 07, 2007, 19:09:20, you wrote: Sorry folks but what is the sence of all this, creating an account on a SPAMMER Provider and email adress as thebat.net? I am missing something here? Who is the SPAMMER Provider you are speaking about? -- Best regards, Maxim Masiutinmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current beta is 3.99.24 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Access Denied at www.ritlabs.com
Hello Maxim, on Sunday, 7. October 2007, at 18:12:21 [GMT +0200] you wrote regarding Access Denied at www.ritlabs.com: Sorry folks but what is the sence of all this, creating an account on a SPAMMER Provider and email adress as thebat.net? I am missing something here? Who is the SPAMMER Provider you are speaking about? the domain 'thebat.net'. Hm, seams i am mixing something up, am i? -- Ciao Thomas Using: TheBat! 3.99.24 System: Windows XP Build 2600 Service Pack 2 PGP:Key-ID: 0x70D9F03B Visit: TheBat! World on http://www.thebatworld.de Current beta is 3.99.24 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Access Denied at www.ritlabs.com
Hi Maxim, On Sun, 7 Oct 2007 19:12:13 +0300 UTC (10/7/2007, 11:12 AM -0500 UTC my time), Maxim Masiutin wrote: Sorry folks but what is the sence of all this, creating an account on a SPAMMER Provider and email adress as thebat.net? I am missing something here? M Who is the SPAMMER Provider you are speaking about? Currently, thebat.net is listed in SARS So any email server using Spanassassin and SARE will show thebat.net as having a spam score.. see below. 2.2 SARE_STOCK_MSG_ID2 Msg ID 'thebat.net' In additon, CIFnet has the SPF in DNS listed for thebat.net (which has the policy only, not the full listing for SPF,) to v=spf1 mx -all so SPF totally Fails ! This means that any email server who rejects on a hard fail of SPF, (many do), will reject any email which has thebat.net as the sender, irrespective if it is sent from Gmail. thebat.net certainly fails SPF on my server. CIFnet needs to loosen their SPF policy for thebat.net in their DNS. You combine these two issues, and you have every email sent from thebat.net either being rejected or deep in a spam folder to start with. -- Gary Current beta is 3.99.24 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Access Denied at www.ritlabs.com
Hi Gary, Sunday, October 7, 2007, 10:32:33 AM, you wrote: This means that any email server who rejects on a hard fail of SPF, (many do), will reject any email which has thebat.net as the sender, irrespective if it is sent from Gmail. thebat.net certainly fails SPF on my server. CIFnet needs to loosen their SPF policy for thebat.net in their DNS. You combine these two issues, and you have every email sent from thebat.net either being rejected or deep in a spam folder to start with. I sent a mail from my new thebat.net account to my regular gmail account, and it ended up in the spam folder at gmail. I declared it not spam, but I don't know if another such mail will end up there again. Bob Riley Current beta is 3.99.24 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: Access Denied at www.ritlabs.com
Hello Bob, A reminder of what Bob Riley typed on: Sunday, October 07, 2007 at 11:04:03 GMT -0600 BR I sent a mail from my new thebat.net account to my regular gmail account, and BR it ended up in the spam folder at gmail. I declared it not spam, BR but I don't know if another such mail will end up there again. If you e-mail me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] I will reply if I receive it. -- Best regards, Stuartmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.99.24 On Windows XP 5.1 Build #2600 Current beta is 3.99.24 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: test creating @thebat.net
Hi Max, Saturday, October 6, 2007, 3:55:50 PM, you wrote: MM Could you please test creating @thebat.net mail account based on MM the login name of your www.ritlabs.com ? I have been able to create the account successfully, and I can send and receive messages via The Bat! between that account and my other usual email account(s). Now that I've reported the success of this test would you please explain *why* we are creating this account? Does this have something to do with further beta testing of version 4.0? -- Regards, Perry Using The Bat! v3.99.24 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.99.24 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[4]: Access Denied at www.ritlabs.com
Hi Stuart, Sunday, October 7, 2007, 11:08:17 AM, you wrote: Hello Bob, A reminder of what Bob Riley typed on: Sunday, October 07, 2007 at 11:04:03 GMT -0600 BR I sent a mail from my new thebat.net account to my regular gmail account, and BR it ended up in the spam folder at gmail. I declared it not spam, BR but I don't know if another such mail will end up there again. If you e-mail me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] I will reply if I receive it. I just checked - now that I have declared my thebat.net account as NOT SPAM for gmail, mail sent from my thebat.net account does arrive ok. However, it is apparent that thebat.net is picked up as spam. I will send a mail to myself at Yahoo to see how Yahoo handles it. I will let everyone know. -- Take Care, Bob mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 3.99.24 (beta) on Windows XP 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.99.24 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Access Denied at www.ritlabs.com
Hi Bob, On Sun, 7 Oct 2007 11:04:03 -0600 UTC (10/7/2007, 12:04 PM -0500 UTC my time), Bob Riley wrote: You combine these two issues, and you have every email sent from thebat.net either being rejected or deep in a spam folder to start with. B I sent a mail from my new thebat.net account to my regular gmail account, and B it ended up in the spam folder at gmail. I declared it not spam, B but I don't know if another such mail will end up there again. what does that say about Gmail. They don't even recognize/accept email coming from their own servers :) It probably will not show up as spam again, since you allowed it. Overall, there will be problems of having thebat.net email being accepted on a lot of email servers because of the issues I mentioned previously, that of having a SARES listing and setting a hard fail in its SPF policy. When sending from Gmail, they put [EMAIL PROTECTED] as the envelope sender, not a Gmail.com envelope sender. My question is what is the purpose of having a thebat.net Gmail account? Is the beta list being moved over there? -- Gary Current beta is 3.99.24 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Using my thebat.net account
Hi tbbeta, I just ran a test. I used my new thebat.net account to send mail to myself at Yahoo, AOL and MSN. Yahoo accepted the mail with no hint of it being spam. MSN accepted it but warned that it could be spam or phishing. AOL put it into a spam folder. And as you know from an earlier mail of mine, gmail said it was spam until I declared it to be not spam and now gmail accepts it with no question. How did thebat.net get to be rated as a potential spam source? Does anyone know? -- Bob Riley -- Let there be peace on earth, and let it begin with me. This is our function, our challenge, our fulfillment - to accept, enjoy and share. Using The Bat! 3.99.24 (beta) on Windows XP 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.99.24 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Using my thebat.net account
Hi Bob, On Sun, 7 Oct 2007 11:29:35 -0600 UTC (10/7/2007, 12:29 PM -0500 UTC my time), Bob Riley wrote: B How did thebat.net get to be rated as a potential spam source? B Does anyone know? 2.2 SARE_STOCK_MSG_ID2 Msg ID 'thebat.net' -- Gary Current beta is 3.99.24 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Using my thebat.net account
Hi Gary, Sunday, October 7, 2007, 11:34:09 AM, you wrote: Hi Bob, On Sun, 7 Oct 2007 11:29:35 -0600 UTC (10/7/2007, 12:29 PM -0500 UTC my time), Bob Riley wrote: B How did thebat.net get to be rated as a potential spam source? B Does anyone know? 2.2 SARE_STOCK_MSG_ID2 Msg ID 'thebat.net' So SARE (whatever/whoever that is) rates thebat.net as SPAM but on what basis? Was there an earlier incarnation of thebat.net that was abused by someone? How can the SARE rating be appealed? -- Take Care, Bob mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 3.99.24 (beta) on Windows XP 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.99.24 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Using my thebat.net account
Hi Bob, On Sun, 7 Oct 2007 11:37:30 -0600 UTC (10/7/2007, 12:37 PM -0500 UTC my time), Bob Riley wrote: 2.2 SARE_STOCK_MSG_ID2 Msg ID 'thebat.net' B So SARE (whatever/whoever that is) rates thebat.net as SPAM but on B what basis? spamassassin rules emporium (SARE) http://www.rulesemporium.com/ B Was there an earlier incarnation of thebat.net that was B abused by someone? yes. Probably a joe-job for a long period of time. It seems from the above rule, it was a stock spam. B How can the SARE rating be appealed? by the domain owner. -- Gary Current beta is 3.99.24 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: Access Denied at www.ritlabs.com
Het was zondag 7 oktober 2007 om 16:04 uur dat jij iets schreef over 'Access Denied at www.ritlabs.com' : Hallo Bob, BR As I have posted a day or so ago, mine is activated also and working BR well. I somehow managed to work around the initial difficulties BR (error screen) and activated my thebat.net account in the gmail BR system. I just created mine at the thebat site, created the account in TheBat! but cannot collect mail coz' it says I have not changed my settings in Gmail yet to collect pop mail. But when going to Gmail I cannot logon my account [EMAIL PROTECTED] is not recognized. What am I doing wrong? -- Groeten, Cees :snowrub: Room service? Send up a larger room. - Groucho Marx __ The Bat! 3.99.24 [A12F0392] running on Windows XP 5.1 build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.99.24 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Access Denied at www.ritlabs.com
Hello Gary, Sunday, October 07, 2007, 20:19:18, you wrote: Overall, there will be problems of having thebat.net email being accepted on a lot of email servers because of the issues I mentioned previously, that of having a SARES listing and setting a hard fail in its SPF policy. When sending from Gmail, they put [EMAIL PROTECTED] as the envelope sender, not a Gmail.com envelope sender. We will try go get removed from SARS and will configure the SPF. -- Best regards, Maxim Masiutinmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current beta is 3.99.24 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: test creating @thebat.net
Hello Perry, Sunday, October 07, 2007, 20:16:58, you wrote: Now that I've reported the success of this test would you please explain *why* we are creating this account? Does this have something to do with further beta testing of version 4.0? Account creation wizard in V4 will allow to create a new mail account without opening a web browser. -- Best regards, Maxim Masiutinmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current beta is 3.99.24 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: test creating @thebat.net
Hello Maxim, On Sun, 7 Oct 2007 you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] MM If you logout and then login again, for example using MM https://www.ritlabs.com/en/thebat.net/3.php?logout=yes , the update MM should have taken place. I would log out if I could but there doesn't seem any where to do so on the page :-( -- Regards, Richard | The Bat! 3.99.24 with POP3 account AntispamSniper 2.6.1.5 | Windows XP (build 2600) version 5.1 Service Pack 2 | F-Prot AV, Outpost Firewall Pro, Spysweeper, Adaware, SpyBot | CPU: Athlon 1.09 Ghz | RAM: 1024 MB Holiday in France: http://perso.wanadoo.fr/lazyhomes/holiday.html Current beta is 3.99.24 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Access Denied at www.ritlabs.com
Hi Maxim, On Sun, 7 Oct 2007 21:28:23 +0300 UTC (10/7/2007, 1:28 PM -0500 UTC my time), Maxim Masiutin wrote: Overall, there will be problems of having thebat.net email being accepted on a lot of email servers because of the issues I mentioned previously, that of having a SARES listing and setting a hard fail in its SPF policy. When sending from Gmail, they put [EMAIL PROTECTED] as the envelope sender, not a Gmail.com envelope sender. M We will try go get removed from SARS and will configure the SPF. Good deal.. here is the easy way for SPF.. It will set up both TXT files needed for DNS, for you. http://old.openspf.org/wizard.html?mydomain=thebat.net and when you hit the continue button on that page. http://old.openspf.org/wizard.html?mydomain=thebat.netmx=yesptr=noa_colon=regular+hostnamesmx_colon=domain+namesip4_colon=IP+addressesinclude=example.comall=yesrecord_so_far=%22v%3Dspf1+mx+%7Eall%22use_built_from_args=1 Regarding the SARES listing... it should not be too difficult. -- Gary Current beta is 3.99.24 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
thebat.net
Hallo tbbeta, 7-10-2007, 21:28:08: FETCH - receiving mail messages 7-10-2007, 21:28:09: FETCH - Initiating TLS handshake 7-10-2007, 21:28:09: FETCH - Certificate S/N: 059200, algorithm: RSA (1024 bits), issued from 15 nov 2005 to 16 nov 2007, for 1 host(s): pop.gmail.com. 7-10-2007, 21:28:09: FETCH - Owner: US, California, Mountain View, Google Inc., pop.gmail.com. 7-10-2007, 21:28:09: FETCH - Issuer: US, Equifax, Equifax Secure Certificate Authority. 7-10-2007, 21:28:09: FETCH - TLS handshake complete 7-10-2007, 21:28:09: FETCH - connected to POP3 server !7-10-2007, 21:28:10: FETCH - Server reports error. The response is: -ERR [SYS/PERM] Your account is not enabled for POP access. Please visit your Gmail settings page and enable your account for POP access. this is what I get when trying to collect mail. Sending email looks to be working fine. -- Groeten, Cees :snowrub: On a box of birthday candles: DO NOT use soft wax as ear plugs or for any other function that involves insertion into a body cavity. __ The Bat! 3.99.24 [A12F0392] running on Windows XP 5.1 build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.99.24 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: IMAP - problems creating and sending messages
Dwight, On 04-10-2007 17:22, you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: Recently I have been having multiple problems with my outbox. 1) when I create a message, I may have as many as half a dozen parked copies of the message in progress. These never go away until I remove them manually. I get this when the connection to the server has been somewhat lost. TB handles bad network connections _incredibly_ bad. I get this all the time. 2) when I try to send these messages, whether they go is iffy. Some have not. Others have. Yup. TB IMAP for you. 3) when I try to find out about messages I'm not sure were sent, those which have been sent - have confirmed receipt with the recipient - sometimes never show up in my Sent Mail box. See above ;-) I hear we're getting a new UI with TB4 - swell, just what we need instead of a _working_ e-mail client. First we upgrade to version 2 on the promise of (better) IMAP support. Then to version 3 on the same promise. We must be dumb. -- greeting Best regards /greeting author Peter Fjelsten /author thebat version 3.99.3 Pro /thebat versionextras MyGate, AVG /extras env. 2 POP3, 14 IMAP (Courier) 1 IMAP (Exchange 6.5), 200K+ msgs. /env. os Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 /os Current beta is 3.99.24 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: IMAP - problems creating and sending messages
Dwight, On 06-10-2007 17:21, you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: During the process, while in the edit mail message window, I got a system stream error and then a stream read error. I get these also. I have stopped reporting IMAP bugs since NONE are EVER fixed. -- greeting Best regards /greeting author Peter Fjelsten /author thebat version 3.99.3 Pro /thebat versionextras MyGate, AVG /extras env. 2 POP3, 14 IMAP (Courier) 1 IMAP (Exchange 6.5), 200K+ msgs. /env. os Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 /os Current beta is 3.99.24 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Access Denied at www.ritlabs.com
Hi Cees, Sunday, October 7, 2007, 1:48:45 PM, you wrote: C But when going to Gmail I cannot logon my account C [EMAIL PROTECTED] is not recognized. Why don't you try going to this URL http://www.thebat.net and use the first part of your login, i.e., cees2000 (without the @thebat.net) and your password. If that gets you in, then go to Settings and Forward and Pop Access and configure it as indicated in this graphic sent earlier by Max. http://www.google.com/mail/help/images/screenshots/enable_pop/pop.gif -- Regards, Perry Using The Bat! v3.99.24 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.99.24 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Access Denied at www.ritlabs.com
Het was zondag 7 oktober 2007 om 22:07 uur dat jij iets schreef over 'Access Denied at www.ritlabs.com' : Hallo Perry and Jim Brown! C But when going to Gmail I cannot logon my account C [EMAIL PROTECTED] is not recognized. PN Why don't you try going to this URL http://www.thebat.net and use the PN first part of your login, i.e., cees2000 (without the @thebat.net) and PN your password. If that gets you in, then go to Settings and Forward and PN Pop Access and configure it as indicated in this graphic sent earlier by PN Max. I've been chasing the threads but must have overlooked this. Thanks a lot guys, this just did the trick! -- Groeten, Cees :snowrub: I started out with nothing... I still have most of it. __ The Bat! 3.99.24 [A12F0392] running on Windows XP 5.1 build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.99.24 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Access Denied at www.ritlabs.com
Hi Cees, Sunday, October 7, 2007, 4:22:10 PM, you wrote: C I've been chasing the threads but must have overlooked this. Thanks a C lot guys, this just did the trick! I'm glad to hear it worked for you. -- Regards, Perry Using The Bat! v3.99.24 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.99.24 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Enable POP access
On Sunday, October 07, 2007 it appears that Maxim Masiutin wrote the following in regards to Enable POP access: MM Hello Tbbeta, MM Unfrotunately, until we resolve this issue, you will have to MM login once via the web interface to www.thebat.net to enable POP access. MM Once you login and agree to the terms, you will see this screen MM http://www.google.com/mail/help/images/screenshots/enable_pop/pop.gif MM under Forwarding and POP task. I hope that this screen is quite self-explaining. Hi Maxim. With this addition/change, SMTP POP thebat.net working fine here. -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA TB!3.99.24, , Windows 2000, Service Pack 4 Skype: janrif Current beta is 3.99.24 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[4]: Access Denied at www.ritlabs.com
Hi Cees, Sunday, October 7, 2007, 11:48:45 AM, you wrote: Het was zondag 7 oktober 2007 om 16:04 uur dat jij iets schreef over 'Access Denied at www.ritlabs.com' : Hallo Bob, BR As I have posted a day or so ago, mine is activated also and working BR well. I somehow managed to work around the initial difficulties BR (error screen) and activated my thebat.net account in the gmail BR system. I just created mine at the thebat site, created the account in TheBat! but cannot collect mail coz' it says I have not changed my settings in Gmail yet to collect pop mail. But when going to Gmail I cannot logon my account [EMAIL PROTECTED] is not recognized. What am I doing wrong? I see by later mail that you have found the answer. I have used my thebat.net account only as web-based mail and not the POP feature. I do use the latter for my primary gmail account, however. Bob Current beta is 3.99.24 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Access Denied at www.ritlabs.com
10/7/2007 8:37 PM Hi Thomas, On 10/7/2007 Thomas Martin wrote: problem solved, login successful, GMail thebat.net account created and activated. TM Sorry folks but what is the sence of all this, creating an account on TM a SPAMMER Provider and email adress as thebat.net? I am missing TM something here? Nope! Neither am I. Putting Google into TB is like putting alcohol into blood. There is nothing good about it. The word free is for fools. -- Take Care, Paul Voyager v.3.99.4 on Win2k SP4-Rollup1 5.0.2195 No IMAP OTFE Current beta is 3.99.24 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TheBat! 4.x and digital signed plugins
Hello Maxim, on Saturday, 6. October 2007, at 22:26:47 [GMT +0200] you wrote regarding TheBat! 4.x and digital signed plugins: Also, any software that applies for Certified for logo needs to have a digital signature, not a just executables of unknown origin. Ok, as there is no answer i had a look arround. Seams that developer of plugins need to BUY, yes to BUY such a certificate. Folks are you joking? Most developer don't can't afford to buy certificates, meaning that the best plugins will not anymore available for TheBat! 4.x If this is true TheBat! is going back to the 18th century. There are thousands of users out there which won't be able to use some very efective and beloved plugins anymore. Special the German comunity developed some very good plugins. So what the storry Maxim? -- Ciao Thomas Using: TheBat! 3.99.24 System: Windows XP Build 2600 Service Pack 2 PGP:Key-ID: 0x70D9F03B Visit: TheBat! World on http://www.thebatworld.de Current beta is 3.99.24 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: TheBat! 4.x and digital signed plugins
Hello Thomas, Sunday, October 07, 2007, 4:40:08, you wrote: Ok, as there is no answer i had a look arround. Seams that developer of plugins need to BUY, yes to BUY such a certificate. Folks are you joking? Most developer don't can't afford to buy certificates, meaning that the best plugins will not anymore available for TheBat! 4.x Which plugins are you speaking about? Could you please name them, i.e. give the list? -- Best regards, Maxim Masiutinmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current beta is 3.99.24 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TheBat! 4.x and digital signed plugins
Hello Maxim, on Monday, 8. October 2007, at 04:27:56 [GMT +0200] you wrote regarding TheBat! 4.x and digital signed plugins: Which plugins are you speaking about? Could you please name them, i.e. give the list? There are in total 58 plugins i am aware of: http://www.thebatworld.de/modules/download/index.php?op=viewlinkcid=8 Most used and not commercial are: - BayesFilter Plugin v2.0.4 - Regula AntiSpam Plugin 2.2.6 - AntispamSniper Plugin Freeware 2.6.1.5 (they published on there homepage the imcompatibility with TheBat! 4.0) - MyMakros 1.11a - XMP - Extended Macro Plugin 1.1.8 - Google Desktop Plugin 2.0.0.7 - RSS2POP3 0.16 - etc. -- Ciao Thomas Using: TheBat! 3.99.24 System: Windows XP Build 2600 Service Pack 2 PGP:Key-ID: 0x70D9F03B Visit: TheBat! World on http://www.thebatworld.de Current beta is 3.99.24 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TheBat! 4.x and digital signed plugins
Thomas Martin wrote on 08/10/2007 at 12:40:08 +1100 subject TheBat! 4.x and digital signed plugins : Ok, as there is no answer i had a look arround. Seams that developer of plugins need to BUY, yes to BUY such a certificate. Folks are you joking? Most developer don't can't afford to buy certificates, meaning that the best plugins will not anymore available for TheBat! 4.x How much cost such an certificate? -- Sincerely Hendrik Oesterlin - email [EMAIL PROTECTED] TheBat! 3.99.24 and Regula Anti-Spam Plugin 2.2.6.0 on Windows 2000 ___ Telefonate ohne weitere Kosten vom PC zum PC: http://messenger.yahoo.de Current beta is 3.99.24 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TheBat! 4.x and digital signed plugins
Hello Maxim, on Monday, 8. October 2007, at 04:27:56 [GMT +0200] you wrote regarding TheBat! 4.x and digital signed plugins: Which plugins are you speaking about? Could you please name them, i.e. give the list? some more very popular: - AVP 1.0.0 Manager - Avira AntiVir PE v7 - F-Prot Manager Anti-Virus Plugin 1.5.0 the list goes on. -- Ciao Thomas Using: TheBat! 3.99.24 System: Windows XP Build 2600 Service Pack 2 PGP:Key-ID: 0x70D9F03B Visit: TheBat! World on http://www.thebatworld.de Current beta is 3.99.24 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TheBat! 4.x and digital signed plugins
Hello Hendrik, on Monday, 8. October 2007, at 04:48:29 [GMT +0200] you wrote regarding TheBat! 4.x and digital signed plugins: How much cost such an certificate? It's not only a question of costs. The problem is that Ritlabs is limiting his own program. Reducing TheBat! usable only with comercial plugins. Till know the best plugins come from private developers. I can't undertsand this step at all. -- Ciao Thomas Using: TheBat! 3.99.24 System: Windows XP Build 2600 Service Pack 2 PGP:Key-ID: 0x70D9F03B Visit: TheBat! World on http://www.thebatworld.de Current beta is 3.99.24 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
SPF for thebat.net
Hello Tbbeta, We have adjusted the SPF for thebat.net, could you please check this out and let us know the results? -- Best regards, Maxim Masiutin mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current beta is 3.99.24 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: SPF for thebat.net
Hi Maxim, Sunday, October 7, 2007, 9:35:13 PM, you wrote: Hello Tbbeta, We have adjusted the SPF for thebat.net, could you please check this out and let us know the results? I had no trouble receiving mail from my thebat.net account with AOL, Yahoo, Gmail or MSN. The headers for gmail showed a neutral rating. I didn't see any alerts (high ratings) in any of the headings. Bob Riley -- Current beta is 3.99.24 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
