Re: How-To get the 3 spell checker engines to work - Part 2 (SSCE)
Hello Costas, CP I wonder if a solution has been posted/found to use the MS Proofing Tools CP dictionaries (MS Office 2003 version) with The Bat! :'( No, there is no solution because they've changed interface to DLLs they use. -- Best regards, Stefan Current beta is 4.0.12.0 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Rogue Photos
On Sat, 9 Feb 2008, at 21:17:57 [GMT -0500] (which was 3:17 where I live) Kyle Goodnight wrote: Hello Henk, Saturday, February 9, 2008, 1:59:45 PM, you wrote: HMdB On Sat, 9 Feb 2008, at 12:19:20 [GMT -0500] (which was 18:19 where I HMdB live) Kyle Goodnight wrote: HMdB I did not experience any problem(s) loggin to: HMdB http://www.pcwize.com/thebat/ HMdB some minutes ago... Logging in to the site is not the problem, I can do that. The problem is you cannot create a new account. I have tried several times. I have keyed in my account info, clicked submit and it goes into lala land and never returns. Then you can try logging in to the account with the info just submitted and am told account does not exist. Log back on the the site and try to create the same logon data you just used and you do get a message that the user Id is already in use. So, possibility the new account info is getting recorded but not updated properly so that a photo can be uploaded. Something is rotten somewhere. :-/ Kyle, I have mentioned on TBOT that several people do not succeed to upload their rogue photo. I think there are more than one moderators of: http://www.pcwize.com/thebat/ over there. I expect to hear from them. -- Henk _ The Bat! E-Mail System version 4.0.12 Pro on Windows XP SP2 Thawte notary, CAcert assurer, GSWoT introducer Gossamer Spider Web of Trust http://www.gswot.org Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail! pgpIDnYJC3bvO.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 4.0.12.0 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.0.12 - How do I get my CSAPI back?
Hello Ian, IAW I had a look at your other posts on the spell checker. The problem IAW here is that I have been using Office 2000 Premium for around 3 IAW years. Office 2000 has no CSAPI, so no wonder you can't use it. IAW Until the most recent MSI updates, I had full use of the CSAPI IAW spell checker. How do you know that you were using CSAPI before? May be you're being confused it with SSCE? IAW Personally I do not care which spell checker is there, as long as it IAW actually works. At the moment (as in my post), it appears that any IAW spelling is OK as long as the first character is uppercase, or the IAW whole word is uppercase, just as long as you do not have an uppercase IAW character in any other position and there are lowercase characters as IAW well. Can I see a screen shot of your message editor with cases you describe please? IAW Then there is the inability to add words. Do you have an user dictionary selected in the Dictionary to add to? If so, is that dictionary of British English (you can see it in the Dictionary manager). -- Best regards, Stefan Current beta is 4.0.12.0 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Version 4.0.12 and perhaps earlier too. Two sets of 'Plain text' and 'HTML' menu entries.
Hello All, In Version 4.0.12 and perhaps earlier too, I have had two sets of 'Plain text (Windows)' and 'HTML/Plain text' menu entries in the 'Edit Mail Message' window. Has anybody else had this problem? I solved the problem by using customise and removing the single entry of each item from the layout list. To my surprise when I re-opened the customise window it again shows one entry for each item! IMHO it would be desirable to have a third item for 'Plain text (MicroEd)' to enable one to change back to that if desired. Any other takers for this? -- Best regards, Roger :flag-southafrica: The Bat! v4.0.12 with AntiSpamSniper 2.7.1.5, on Windows XP, version 5 1, build 2600 and Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.12.0 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Rogue Photos
Guten Tag Maggie Meister, am Sonntag, 10. Februar 2008 um 00:29 schrieben Sie: I have downloaded the smileys and the rogues today using Opera. I wonder if Leif's site is just busy and I got in as a fluke? If you like, I can send the files to you. They are zipped and are 863KB for the rogues and 1.1MB for the smileys. Thanks a lot, but the Problem is not to download the already available Rogue Images. The Problem is to login and upload my/a own Rogue Image to the Server. -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen Jens Franik mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Picture of me? X-Rogue http://www.de2all.de/Kr_bat.jpg The Bat! 4.0.12 Windows 2000 5.0 build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current beta is 4.0.12.0 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.0.11
Guten Tag Stuart Cuddy, am Sonntag, 10. Februar 2008 um 00:39 schrieben Sie: JF User of www.batboard.net are reporting, 4.0.9 and 4.0.11 JF it is not possible to access IMAP at all after a fresh JF install. JF If anybody has an IMAP Account and could test this, JF i can not test it. IMAP still working here. Or at least as well as it was. Depending to my mail, i'd like to ask you again, if you did install your Copy of The Bat! on a System which was virgin and never had The Bat! installed? -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen Jens Franik mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Picture of me? X-Rogue http://www.de2all.de/Kr_bat.jpg The Bat! 4.0.12 Windows 2000 5.0 build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current beta is 4.0.12.0 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: AV while reading Mail and pressing F9 to view source
Guten Tag Thomas Fernandez, am Sonntag, 10. Februar 2008 um 02:28 schrieben Sie: F9 AV not confirmed in 4.0.11. JF I normally get no AV at this point - it happens suddenly JF and very unexpected, because i often view the headers... If it's only for the headers - do you know shift-crtl-K? Yes, i know this Keystroke well, i use it sometimes. -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen Jens Franik mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Picture of me? X-Rogue http://www.de2all.de/Kr_bat.jpg The Bat! 4.0.12 Windows 2000 5.0 build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current beta is 4.0.12.0 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
AV when checking IMAP accounts
Hello TheBat Beta List Members!!! Maybe this AV is related to 2 imap accounts on one server - gmail. -- Thanks and best regards, Sebastian Murawskiattachment: AV-imap.png Current beta is 4.0.12.0 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: 4.0.0.22: A great job again!
Hi Eugene, Friday, February 8, 2008, 7:42:52 AM, you wrote: (I have to enter the password every time I receive new mail). Not confirmed. -- Best regards, Carsten Current beta is 4.0.12.0 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
v4.0.12 spelling
Spelling problems I decided to see if loading an old copy of the SSCE5132.dll into c;\program files\the bat to replace the new dll would make any difference. The dll I loaded was created 29/08/2007 and is slightly larger (143kB, new is 132kB) Spelling now works as expected based on initial testing! I hope this offers some hope that the development team can rule out other factors (registry settings etc) and so concentrate at what is different between dll's. recently, with another program, where strange things occurred on just a few sytems yet work on the majority it was found to be the codeset used which did not work on some AMD processors. Hope this helps, for now I have a speller that works. Graham -- Graham Howe mail mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using TheBat 4.0.12 on Windows 5 SP2 Current beta is 4.0.12.0 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Version 4.0.12 and perhaps earlier too. Two sets of 'Plain text' and 'HTML' menu entries.
Hello Roger, On Sun, 10 Feb 2008 10:49:39 +0200 GMT (10/02/2008, 15:49 +0700 GMT), Roger Phillips wrote: RP In Version 4.0.12 and perhaps earlier too, I have had two sets of 'Plain RP text (Windows)' and 'HTML/Plain text' menu entries in the 'Edit Mail RP Message' window. RP Has anybody else had this problem? Where do you see that? I just looked at Options / Message Format and have one entry for each. RP IMHO it would be desirable to have a third item for 'Plain text RP (MicroEd)' to enable one to change back to that if desired. Any RP other takers for this? The four entries I have are: Plain Text (MicroEd) Plain Text (Windows) HTML/Plain text HTML only This is the same as in v3. -- Cheers, Thomas. Kommt ein Mann in ne Bank: Haende raus, Geld hoch, ich bin eine Geisel! - Gell, Sie wollen's in Schilling? http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 4.0.12 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.12.0 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: 4.0.11
Hello Jens, Sunday, February 10, 2008, 3:30:43 AM, you wrote: JF Depending to my mail, i'd like to ask you again, if you did JF install your Copy of The Bat! on a System which was virgin JF and never had The Bat! installed? Sorry I have no ability to test this. -- Stuartmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v4.0.11 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.12.0 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Version 4.0.12 and perhaps earlier too. Two sets of 'Plain text' and 'HTML' menu entries.
Hello Roger, On Sun, 10 Feb 2008 15:37:59 +0200 GMT (10/02/2008, 20:37 +0700 GMT), Roger Phillips wrote: TF Where do you see that? I just looked at Options / Message Format TF and have one entry for each. RP 'Options/Message format' has been removed from the Options menu RP and the format items appear as individual items in the row of menu RP items as in the attached screen shot. I guess you configured this by yourself. I see you have the four items in the main row now. So is this solved? -- Cheers, Thomas. I don't know the answer to the question you posted, but I think someone asked this question 18 years ago on the net. Don't remember if it got answered. Hope this helps! http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 4.0.12 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.12.0 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Rogue Photos
Hello Maggie, On Sun, 10 Feb 2008 09:39:06 -0500 GMT (10/02/2008, 21:39 +0700 GMT), Maggie Meister wrote: MM I do wonder if a personal email to Leif would help - IIRC when he MM stepped down from active participation, he agreed to leave them MM up on his server, but I don't think anyone is managing it now. MM Maybe Marck or Roelof might know more? Or, maybe someone else MM can take it over. I already sent a mail to Leif this morning (which was 14 hours ago in my time zone). He hasn't replied yet - I guess he is out of town for the weekend. -- Cheers, Thomas. 31. 'Stewardesses' is the longest English word that is typed with only the left hand. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 4.0.12 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.12.0 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Rogue Photos
Hi Jens, On Sunday, February 10, 2008 at 4:26:31 AM you wrote: JF Thanks a lot, but the Problem is not to download the JF already available Rogue Images. The Problem is to login JF and upload my/a own Rogue Image to the Server. Yes, thanks, Rick had mentioned that. I was a little behind on my information. Sorry. I do wonder if a personal email to Leif would help - IIRC when he stepped down from active participation, he agreed to leave them up on his server, but I don't think anyone is managing it now. Maybe Marck or Roelof might know more? Or, maybe someone else can take it over. -- Regards, Maggie No excellent soul is exempt from a mixture of madness. -Aristotle Running Windows XP, 5, and emailing with The Bat! 4.0.9 Current beta is 4.0.12.0 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: How-To get the 3 spell checker engines to work - Part 4 (Hunspell)
Hello Graham, And that's all. As I said in my first message, if this helps at least one of you, I'll be happy :) Thank you for describing what is required to get spelling to work. Despite all your efforts I cannot get it to work. That's strange. In line with your advice I can confirm I have all the files you mention for SSCE and english (BR) selected. Again, strange. What options do you have ticked for the SSCE engine? Following your instructions I added Hunspell (dll was already there but added other files) Why did you do that? Did you somehow 'disabled' SCCE first? Otherwise, you are just adding more variables to your 'problematic environment. What 'other files' you added?. Just the dictionaries for BR? I use MS Word 2007 and so no CSAPI - maybe this is the problem? No, the fact that CSAPI is not available should be no problem for SSCE to work as it should. OK, all appears correctly set up but it refuses to work frunt lok (these have no effect as being mis-spelled) 99ggg 444ggg (these are underlined in red but only for numeric followed by alpha) Spell cjhecking is a must for me and I am deserate for a solution, I should add that untill V4 (all versions) it did work I have copypasted your four lines above in my editor window and all misspelled words are flagged correctly. And I have tested, ONE AT A TIME, with the three engines. Anymore ideas, help! Not at the moment. I would anyway suggest trying an engine at a time. And I would try to get the SCCE one to work first. Hunspell seems to work fine too, it is the dictionaries that may make a difference. In my case, I tested the Spanish one and it is quite poor. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.0.12 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.12.0 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Version 4.0.12 and perhaps earlier too. Two sets of 'Plain text' and 'HTML' menu entries.
On Sunday, February 10, 2008, 7:37:59 AM, Roger Phillips wrote: 'Options/Message format' has been removed from the Options menu and the format items appear as individual items in the row of menu items as in the attached screen shot. Certainly can't confirm that here. I don't have anything like what you attached. -- Dwight A. Corrin 1201 W River Blvd Apt B108 Wichita KS 67203 316.303.9385 phone ahead to fax dcorrin at fastmail.fm Using IMAP with The Bat! 4.0.12 on Windows XP version 5,1 (Service Pack 2) Current beta is 4.0.12.0 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: v4.0.12 spelling
Hello Graham, I decided to see if loading an old copy of the SSCE5132.dll into c;\program files\the bat to replace the new dll would make any difference. The dll I loaded was created 29/08/2007 and is slightly larger (143kB, new is 132kB) I assume you understand that you fiddle at your own risk, aren't you? Changing things like dlls to see what happens, without perhaps knowing quite well what you are doing and what for, may be dangerous or at the least confusing. So you are saying that you removed SSCE5532.dll (version 5.16.8.0) and you copied SSCE5132.dll (version 5.6), correct? Are you aware about the differences between the two versions? http://www.wintertree-software.com/support/ssce/revisionhistory.html There have been quite a few changes between 5.6 and 5.16, haven't they? Spelling now works as expected based on initial testing! Sorry, I may be wrong but I think you are confused. Are you sure the SSCE engine and dictionaries are working? Again, I may be wrong, but I think that your TB is now using ONLY the Hunspell engine and the Hunspell BR dictionary. I'll tell you why. I did as you say you did, remove SSCE5532.dll and added SSCE5132.dll, and spell checking with SSCE dictionaries doesn't work at all. Every single word in the text is flagged as misspelled, no matter which language (SSCE only) is selected. So, what I believe is happening is that as you said in your mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] you added Hunspell and it is Hunspell who is finding the correctly spelled (with Hunspell dictionary) words. In the 'Part 1' message last night I wrote: ,- [ ] | One important thing to understand and remember is that you do not | select 'dictionaries' for spell checking, you select 'languages'. And | that if there are dictionaries for that language from different | engines, they will all be used. In this case, the rule is: as soon as a | word is found correct by one of the dictionaries, it is considered | correct (even if another dictionary wouldn't consider it as correct). `- Why don't you do something. Rename or remove temporarily your Hunspell dictionaries so that only the SSCE ones will be used and see then what happens. I'd appreciate if you let me know. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.0.12 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.12.0 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: How-To get the 3 spell checker engines to work - Part 4 (Hunspell)
Hello Stuart, Even though I have everything working as you describe I would like to congratulate you for your excellent synopsis. :beer: :beer: :beer: Thank you my friend. Nice and cool beers that I enjoyed outside on a beautiful sunny day. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.0.12 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.12.0 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: How-To get the 3 spell checker engines to work - Part 2 (SSCE)
Hello Costas, Thank you for the instructions. It's just what I was looking for! I downloaded the International Pack and extracted the British English files from the msi file to the directory you mention. Glad you got it working Even if it was just you who got some benefit from my posting, I feel rewarded :) I wonder if a solution has been posted/found to use the MS Proofing Tools dictionaries (MS Office 2003 version) with The Bat! :'( I see that Stefan has already answered to that. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.0.12 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.12.0 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Customise toolbar error message
Hello Tbbeta, When invoking Help in the Customise window, this error message appears: --- The Bat! --- Missing context help topic 11027 --- OK --- -- Best regards, Maggie ~~~ Running Windows XP, and emailing with The Bat! 4.0.11 Current beta is 4.0.12.0 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: How-To get the 3 spell checker engines to work - Part 4 (Hunspell)
Hello MAU, Sunday, February 10, 2008, 10:55:03 AM, you wrote: Even though I have everything working as you describe I would like to congratulate you for your excellent synopsis. :beer: :beer: :beer: Thank you my friend. Nice and cool beers that I enjoyed outside on a beautiful sunny day. You are most welcome. It is too cold here, -27 C, to drink that beer anyway. :) -- Stuartmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v4.0.11 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.12.0 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
v4.current: Bug: Mass mailing
I reported it a while ago, now added this note to https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5063 - Select Account1 - Open Address book, File, Mass mailing using template, select a quick template - Active account, select Account2, another account - I personally select Action: Put in Outbox, but I guess you can select something else, too - Click OK The mails will be in the Outbox of Account1!! (even if I selected Account2), with the sender being the email of Account1. Please confirm. For mass mailing users, it is a serious issue. -- Vili The Bat 4.0.0.20 (BETA) on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Szervizcsomag 2 Current beta is 4.0.12.0 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.0.0.22: A great job again!
Hello Greg, BTW if you ever want to go back and try VA then take a look at http://www.virtual-access.org/. :) No thank you, I don't think so. I think since it became open source it has progressed very little. I must admit VA was way ahead of it time. IMHO it was a marketing mistake which created the problem as well as the demise of CIS. Kind of goes back to before the Internet became popular to the general public. Doesn't seem so long ago, but I guess time flies. :) It certainly was the best and most powerful then. And yes, perhaps ahead of its time. I am quite sure that if development had continued it would now be way ahead of many other clients including TB. But that's life. Actually, I am quite satisfied with TB and just miss a few things from VA. The one I missed most at first was handling newsgroups with the same client, but I solved this with the MyGate plugin for TB and it just works flawlessly. Although not very often I also missed some tines the capability VA had to handle two languages simultaneously (Spanish and English in my case), but that has been introduce in v4 now. The other features I still miss are: Ignoring threads, Bookmarks and, perhaps the most, Toolbar Macros. If you recall, for those repetitive actions we all do, that require a sequence of several keyboard shortcuts (or selecting a sequence of menu entries) you could assign that sequence to a custom toolbar button and the sequence would be executed every time you clicked on it. Yes, I do miss toolbar macros. When TB's Customiser was in development I hoped they would include something like that. But no, they didn't. And remember it had the option to select Full or Short menus? It is not that I miss that one myself, I'm just mentioning it in case RIT guys are 'listening' ;-) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.0.12 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.12.0 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: How-To get the 3 spell checker engines to work - Part 4 (Hunspell)
Hello Stuart, It is too cold here, -27 C, And you are still alive? ;-) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.0.12 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.12.0 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
v4.current: Bug: After 2 years, help system still states server/client mode of TB
See: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5952 -- Vili The Bat 4.0.0.20 (BETA) on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Szervizcsomag 2 Current beta is 4.0.12.0 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
v4.current: Bug: SMTP auth
https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5656 still there: Using e.g. a GMail account (that requires SMTP auth): Account, Properties, Transport, SMTP, Authentication... window: 1. Perform SMTP auth, checked Use specific settings, put your user name and password in Require secure auth, not checked Mail can be sent. OK. 2. Perform SMTP auth, checked Use specific settings, put your user name and password in Require secure auth, checked Mail CANNOT be sent. OK. 3. And now the bug: Perform SMTP auth, checked Select the Same user/password as for Mail Retrieval Check Require secure auth Now check the Use specific settings, put your user name and password in Require secure auth, NOT checked Try to send mail. Mail CANNOT be sent. I think, the cause is, that there are two Require secure auth checkbox. One for the Same user/password as for Mail Retrieval and one for the Use specific settings. And if either one is checked (even if the checkbox is hidden), sec auth will be used when we set Use specific settings. Solution: there should be only ONE Require secure auth checkbox, and its state should decide if sec auth needed or not, independent from if Same user/password as for Mail Retrieval or Use specific settings. is selected. Please confirm. -- Vili The Bat 4.0.0.20 (BETA) on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Szervizcsomag 2 Current beta is 4.0.12.0 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.0.12 - How do I get my CSAPI back?
Hello Ian, M Do you perhaps say that because you no longer see the bar line that M used to separate the SSCE languages from the CSAPI ones? If so, the M separator is gone with the redesign. You have a number of languages M available to choose from no matter from which set (engine) they are. No, it is because in the Spell Checker|Options dialog I only see SSCE and Hunspell. Yes, that's where you should see it. I had a look at your other posts on the spell checker. The problem here is that I have been using Office 2000 Premium for around 3 years. Until the most recent MSI updates, I had full use of the CSAPI spell checker. I have not made any changes to my system other than run the MSI package and now the CSAPI spell checker has gone. As Stefan has already asked you, how do you know that you were using CSAPI before? And I see Stefan has replied to the rest of your message. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.0.12 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.12.0 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Version 4.0.12 and perhaps earlier too. Two sets of 'Plain text' and 'HTML' menu entries.
Hi Dwight, Sunday, February 10, 2008, 4:03:10 PM, you wrote: On Sunday, February 10, 2008, 7:37:59 AM, Roger Phillips wrote: 'Options/Message format' has been removed from the Options menu and the format items appear as individual items in the row of menu items as in the attached screen shot. Certainly can't confirm that here. I don't have anything like what you attached. As do I. Doug -- Doug Weller Moderator, sci.archaeology.moderated The Bat! 4.0.11 Doug and Helen's Dogs: http://www.dougandhelen.com Doug's Archaeology Site: http://www.ramtops.co.uk Current beta is 4.0.12.0 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.0.0.22: A great job again!
On Sunday, February 10, 2008, 11:23:54 AM, MAU wrote: No thank you, I don't think so. I think since it became open source it has progressed very little. Looks dead in the water. Sez last release in 2006 but promises a speller before the end of 2007 -- Dwight A. Corrin 316.303.9385 phone ahead to fax dcorrin at fastmail.fm photo galleries at http://dcorrin.smugmug.com Using IMAP with The Bat! 4.0.12 on Windows Vista version 6,0 () Current beta is 4.0.12.0 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Version 4.0.12 and perhaps earlier too. Two sets of 'Plain text' and 'HTML' menu entries.
Hello Roger, TF Where do you see that? I just looked at Options / Message Format and TF have one entry for each. 'Options/Message format' has been removed from the Options menu and the format items appear as individual items in the row of menu items as in the attached screen shot. Have you been fiddling with Customiser lately? :) I have the four options that Thomas mentions from 'Options/Message format' and also from the Status bar. You will see that I have further customised things to include the four options that used to appear under the Options menu that you mentioned below. Why did you do that, do you change so often? As I send, even if you Options menu doesn't show the four options, you can also select them in the Status bar. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.0.12 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.12.0 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: Attachments Trouble?
message. After I further edit the outgoing message before sending, the attached zip file suddenly shows at 0 KB (instead of the original 50 KB or so). I don't see how editing a message could affect the attachment. I will monitor this further, just to make sure when it happens, but I have not seen this before with TB. does this sound like a Windows problem or a TB problem? What editor are you using? I can't reproduce it here Plain text (MicroEd). I also keep the attachments in a separate subfolder within the overall mail folder. Is that (just as Eudora used) better, or is it better to keep the attachments in the mail itself? Better to store inside. BUT dont change it from one to the other. If you would like to move from sep. dir to store inside, do this: - export your all your mails from that account - make a new account where you select to store the mails in the message base - import your exported mails - verify that you see all mails - delete your old account, setup the filters again, set the proper name, email etc. for the new account I dont have good experience with changing the store type for an existing account... Also, users reported me the problem with a 0-length attach, too. We completely solved it by moving them to store the files inside the mails. Another problematic point was the settings in the Account/Files and directories tab: Bind attachments only when sending. You have to have it unchecked, otherwise you can get this error. -- Vili The Bat 4.0.0.20 (BETA) on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Szervizcsomag 2 Current beta is 4.0.12.0 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Customise toolbar error message
Hi Maggie, Sunday, February 10, 2008, 4:28:46 PM, you wrote: Hello Tbbeta, When invoking Help in the Customise window, this error message appears: --- The Bat! --- Missing context help topic 11027 --- OK --- Yep, same here. Doug -- Doug Weller Moderator, sci.archaeology.moderated The Bat! 4.0.11 Doug and Helen's Dogs: http://www.dougandhelen.com Doug's Archaeology Site: http://www.ramtops.co.uk Current beta is 4.0.12.0 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Upgrade to v4.0.11?
How can you upgrade to v4 on CIFnet when you either misplaced or never had a Login or Password for CIFnet? I looked through my files and did not find a CIFnet Login or Password, so maybe this is all new. Any ideals on how to get the upgrade to v4? TIA! Why do you need that? -- Vili The Bat 4.0.0.20 (BETA) on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Szervizcsomag 2 Current beta is 4.0.12.0 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Customise toolbar error message
Hello Tbbeta, When invoking Help in the Customise window, this error message appears: --- The Bat! --- Missing context help topic 11027 --- OK --- Confirmed -- Rick In Bush we trusted, now we are busted v4.0.12 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.12.0 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Version 4.0.12 and perhaps earlier too. Two sets of 'Plain text' and 'HTML' menu entries.
Hello Roger, M Have you been fiddling with Customiser lately? :) No MAU, apart from adding the two format options as I described. It seems as though I have a unique Message Editor, but why or where it came from is beyond me!:( Try something. Exit TB and rename your 'tbuser.def' file or move it to a safe place. Then re-start TB and see if you get the Options/Message format menu entries. If it doesn't work, you can return to your current tbuser.def. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.0.12 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.12.0 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: v4.0.12 spelling
Hello MAU, On 10 February 2008 at 17:53:08GMT +0100 (which was 16:53 where I live) - you wrote and made these points on the subject of - v4.0.12 spelling: mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I assume you understand that you fiddle at your own risk, aren't you? Changing things like dlls to see what happens, without perhaps knowing quite well what you are doing and what for, may be dangerous or at the least confusing. So you are saying that you removed SSCE5532.dll (version 5.16.8.0) and you copied SSCE5132.dll (version 5.6), correct? Are you aware about the differences between the two versions? http://www.wintertree-software.com/support/ssce/revisionhistory.html There have been quite a few changes between 5.6 and 5.16, haven't they? Yes I appreciate the potential problems but only did this to see if the problem was external to the program or The Bat directories. I totally agree, very risky and not something I would normally do. I have some 30 years computer experience and although way out of date in programming I understand the implications. What concerned me was the fact that others said they had no problems with spell checker yet there are some, a few it seems, like me having real problems. Not yet reviewed the change history but thanks for the link, will read that. I should add that I am very new to The Bat having only recently bought the Pro version so I am learning slowly. I do find it interesting to follow and test beta versions and realise they can be confusing and introduce new problems. Sorry, I may be wrong but I think you are confused. Are you sure the SSCE engine and dictionaries are working? Again, I may be wrong, but I think that your TB is now using ONLY the Hunspell engine and the Hunspell BR dictionary. I'll tell you why. I did as you say you did, remove SSCE5532.dll and added SSCE5132.dll, and spell checking with SSCE dictionaries doesn't work at all. Every single word in the text is flagged as misspelled, no matter which language (SSCE only) is selected. So, what I believe is happening is that as you said in your mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] you added Hunspell and it is Hunspell who is finding the correctly spelled (with Hunspell dictionary) words. Why don't you do something. Rename or remove temporarily your Hunspell dictionaries so that only the SSCE ones will be used and see then what happens. I'd appreciate if you let me know. You are not wrong and the above made me try a different approach as you suggested. As you say I had both Hunspell and SSCE loaded. To make a clean start I renamed the Hunspell dll to make it inoperative and then deleted all the SSCE language files (I have The Bat pro) and then repaired using ver 4.0.11 msi to reinstall them, which it did. Testing the spell checker with SSCE only, resulted in same error - no checking or red underlining except it flagged any word containing numeric and alpha mix.. Removing the option for ignoring stopped those so something is working as it reacted to this option setting. Essentially, SSCE does not work to check spelling wrong words. You asked about options, I tested before using those you used but since have tried different combinations. Same result - no spell checking so the bug, whatever it is, lives in SSCE5532.dll as supplied in latest version release. OK, now renamed SSCE5532.dll to make it inoperative and reset the Hunspell.dll to work. Great, as you predicted, it works and although I have not tried many options or words it is more than satisfactory for my needs. Thank you for getting me this far. Whilst this sorts out the immediate need it does still remain that SSCE5532 doe not work. Can you confirm that SSCE works for you in isolation (no Hunspell) as it is very strange indeed. Thanks again, your help has been very much appreciated and I hope the SSCE problem can be found and resolved. Graham -- Graham Howe mail mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 4.0.12 on windows version 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.12.0 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Version 4.0.12 and perhaps earlier too. Two sets of 'Plain text' and 'HTML' menu entries.
Hello MAU, Sunday, February 10, 2008, 7:35:55 PM, among other things, you wrote: M Have you been fiddling with Customiser lately? :) No MAU, apart from adding the two format options as I described. It seems as though I have a unique Message Editor, but why or where it came from is beyond me!:( M Why did you do that, do you change so often? Actually I very seldom change the format I use. I was just trying to sort out a faulty display that I noticed after my latest download and install. M As I send, even if your Options menu doesn't show the four options, you M can also select them in the Status bar. Yes, I see that now you have mentioned it. Because I seldom need to change the format I had barely noticed the status bar entry, let alone try to use it! Thanks for your response. -- Best regards, Roger :flag-southafrica: The Bat! v4.0.12 with AntiSpamSniper 2.7.1.5, on Windows XP, version 5 1, build 2600 and Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.12.0 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.0.12 - How do I get my CSAPI back?
Hello Stefan, Sunday, February 10, 2008, 10:13:19 AM, you wrote: IAW Until the most recent MSI updates, I had full use of the CSAPI IAW spell checker. How do you know that you were using CSAPI before? May be you're being confused it with SSCE? Well, that's the case here. Till alpha 12 I had greek CSAPI spell check. And I know it was CSAPI because SSCE doesn't have greek. Now the CSAPI is gone and I'm stuck with hunspell which is vastly inferior to CSAPI. There is no CSAPI here but up to alpha 12 there was. So there is definitely something you have done on alpha13 and later that broke that. -- George M. Menegakis Using The Bat v4.0.7 on Windows XP Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.12.0 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: v4.0.12 spelling
Hello Graham, OK, now renamed SSCE5532.dll to make it inoperative and reset the Hunspell.dll to work. Great, as you predicted, it works and although I have not tried many options or words it is more than satisfactory for my needs. Glad to hear that :) Whilst this sorts out the immediate need it does still remain that SSCE5532 doe not work. Let's put it this way: it doesn't appear to work for you. It works for me and many many others. Can you confirm that SSCE works for you in isolation (no Hunspell) as it is very strange indeed. Yes, of course. I've checked it several times. See my message with Subject My comparison of Spanish CSAPI, SCCE and Hunspell dictionaries with mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]. How else could I compare the three different Spanish dictionaries? And later the British English ones? By enabling only one of the engines at a time. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.0.12 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.12.0 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Rogue Photos
·---·-Date---· | QA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [1] | 2008-02-10 | ·---·· [Reply to: »Thomas Fernandez« · 2008-02-10 · 15:43 h (CET)] Hello, Thomas! I already sent a mail to Leif this morning (which was 14 hours ago in my time zone). He hasn't replied yet - I guess he is out of town for the weekend. I sent a mail to Roelof 21 hrs, ago. - No, reply as yet. Cheers! VA -- [1] Direct eMail without [tbb] in subject line will end in Nirvana! Using The Bat! 4.0.12 [Pro] on Windows XP [Pro] Service Pack 2. »A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof was to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools.« - Douglas Adams (1952 - 2001), »Mostly Harmless« Current beta is 4.0.12.0 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Rogue Photos
Hi Volker, On Sunday, February 10, 2008 at 2:46:47 PM you wrote: I already sent a mail to Leif this morning (which was 14 hours ago in my time zone). He hasn't replied yet - I guess he is out of town for the weekend. VA I sent a mail to Roelof 21 hrs, ago. - No, reply as yet. Namedroppers. :gdr: -- Regards, Maggie Be patient and achieve all things. Be impatient and achieve all things faster. Running Windows XP, 5, and emailing with The Bat! 4.0.11 Current beta is 4.0.12.0 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.0.12
·---·-Date---· | QA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [1] | 2008-02-10 | ·---·· [Reply to: »Stefan Tanurkov« · 2008-02-10 · 08:28 h (CET)] Hello, Stefan! If the Options are greyed out, this does not mean that Hunspell is not working - it only says that the Options are not availiable (because they are still work in progress). Actually, HunSpell does not allow to set any option - it just works :-) So, please don't expect much on this matter. So let me ask a heretical question: If HunSpell actually does *not* allow any options, what is the dispensable HunSpell tab for? Just to mislead the users? Delete this tab or remove all the controls and replace them with this text: HunSpell does not allow to set any options. - And you are done! ;-) Cheers! VA -- [1] Direct eMail without [tbb] in subject line will end in Nirvana! Using The Bat! 4.0.12 [Pro] on Windows XP [Pro] Service Pack 2. »A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof was to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools.« - Douglas Adams (1952 - 2001), »Mostly Harmless« Current beta is 4.0.12.0 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.0.12
Hello all, Sunday, February 10, 2008, Volker Ahrendt wrote: If HunSpell actually does *not* allow any options, what is the dispensable HunSpell tab for? Just to mislead the users? AFAIK when is tab visible, at least one dictionary is available. Delete this tab or remove all the controls and replace them with this text: HunSpell does not allow to set any options. - And you are done! ;-) as I expect, when TB detects dictionaries, tab should be displayed and info like This engine is available... For both hunspell/ssce, unvailable options should be removed, agree with You, those unavailable can confuse users only -- Bye Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 4.0.12 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 with MyMacros,XMP,AnotherMacros, NOD32 Antivirus plugin and AntispamSniper v 2.7.1.7 Notebook Toshiba, Core2 Duo 1.83 GHz, 1 GB RAM Current beta is 4.0.12.0 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Rogue Photos
Hi Volker, On Sunday, February 10, 2008 at 3:09:01 PM you wrote: Namedroppers. :gdr: VA Pardon? - Roelof is one of the other moderators of that website and VA he has not replied as yet. That's what I wanted to say. ;-) I know - just a joke... I had visions of tons of email dropping into their mailboxes. :-) Well, it's one way to say, Hi there! -- Regards, Maggie Physics tells us that for every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction. They hate us, we hate them, they hate us back. And so, here we are, victims of mathematics! -Londo Mollari Running Windows XP, 5, and emailing with The Bat! 4.0.11 Current beta is 4.0.12.0 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Rogue Photos
·---·-Date---· | QA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [1] | 2008-02-10 | ·---·· [Reply to: »Maggie Meister« · 2008-02-10 · 20:55 h (CET)] Hello, Maggie! I already sent a mail to Leif this morning (which was 14 hours ago in my time zone). He hasn't replied yet - I guess he is out of town for the weekend. VA I sent a mail to Roelof 21 hrs, ago. - No, reply as yet. Namedroppers. :gdr: Pardon? - Roelof is one of the other moderators of that website and he has not replied as yet. That's what I wanted to say. ;-) Cheers! VA -- [1] Direct eMail without [tbb] in subject line will end in Nirvana! Using The Bat! 4.0.12 [Pro] on Windows XP [Pro] Service Pack 2. »A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof was to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools.« - Douglas Adams (1952 - 2001), »Mostly Harmless« Current beta is 4.0.12.0 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Customise toolbar error message
Hello Rick, Sunday, February 10, 2008, 1:13:05 PM, you wrote: Hello Tbbeta, When invoking Help in the Customise window, this error message appears: --- The Bat! --- Missing context help topic 11027 --- OK --- Rick Confirmed Confirmed -- Best regards, Peter The BAT 4.0.12, Windows XP, Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.12.0 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.0.0.22: A great job again!
Hello MAU, The other features I still miss are: Ignoring threads, Bookmarks and, perhaps the most, Toolbar Macros. And I forgot to mention... a real DRAFT folder :) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.0.12 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.12.0 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.0.0.22: A great job again!
Hello Greg, I've already accomplished #1. :) No, you haven't this time. If you see: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5441 https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6057 and my notes to: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=1542, and notice the dates... they are not from today. BTW, nice to see around again :) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.0.12 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.12.0 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.0.0.22 Release Candidate
Hello all, Sunday, February 10, 2008, Martin Sebald wrote: The Bat! 4.0.0.22 is available at http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_pro_4-0-0-22.msi http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_home_4-0-0-22.msi http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/intpack_4-0-0-22.msi http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_rus_4-0-0-22.msi is this release still downloadable? I get errors when I tried to download. Did I miss something when crosschecking my new 1500 mails here in the list? Sorry, I did not read much the last weeks. You have newer build than this, why do You want to download it? -- Bye Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 4.0.12 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 with MyMacros,XMP,AnotherMacros, NOD32 Antivirus plugin and AntispamSniper v 2.7.1.7 Notebook Toshiba, Core2 Duo 1.83 GHz, 1 GB RAM Current beta is 4.0.12.0 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
4.0.12.1
The Bat! 4.0.12.1 is available at http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb40121.rar What's new in 4.0.12.1 since 4.0.12.0: [*] Better looking new account dialogue [-] Fixed an AV when viewing some S/MIME certificates. [-] Message deletion settings for Exchange Server (MAPI) accounts weren't properly set for newly-create accounts. [-] New MicroEd was not working properly with IME (Far East languages keyboard input system) [-] If a host name in DNS had multiple IP addresses, The Bat! couldn't connect to it via POP3/SMTP. Only IMAP connections did work properly. This was most obvious when connecting to localhost under Windows Vista to an application that didn't support IPv6. Failing to connect to ::1, The Bat! didn't try to connect to 127.0.0.1 Current beta is 4.0.12.0 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.0.0.22 Release Candidate
Hi Maxim! The Bat! 4.0.0.22 is available at http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_pro_4-0-0-22.msi http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_home_4-0-0-22.msi http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/intpack_4-0-0-22.msi http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_rus_4-0-0-22.msi is this release still downloadable? I get errors when I tried to download. Did I miss something when crosschecking my new 1500 mails here in the list? Sorry, I did not read much the last weeks. -- Regards, Martin The Bat! v4.0.11 powered by Windows Server 2003 R2 Standard Edition 5.2 Build 3790 Service Pack 2 ConCarne cooks best since 1998 http://www.concarne.org Current beta is 4.0.12.0 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.0.0.22 Release Candidate
Hello Martin, On 2008-02-10 you wrote: The Bat! 4.0.0.22 is available at No, that was a release candidate. The 4.0.11.0 you use is younger. But there is an update to 4.0.12.0 (exe only) available at http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb40120.rar announced with mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Regards, Uwe Using The Bat! v4.0.12 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.12.0 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.0.0.22 Release Candidate
Hi Marek! The Bat! 4.0.0.22 is available at http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_pro_4-0-0-22.msi http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_home_4-0-0-22.msi http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/intpack_4-0-0-22.msi http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_rus_4-0-0-22.msi is this release still downloadable? I get errors when I tried to download. Did I miss something when crosschecking my new 1500 mails here in the list? Sorry, I did not read much the last weeks. You have newer build than this, why do You want to download it? Argn, you're right. I missed the second zero... Sorry... ;-) -- Regards, Martin The Bat! v4.0.11 powered by Windows Server 2003 R2 Standard Edition 5.2 Build 3790 Service Pack 2 ConCarne cooks best since 1998 http://www.concarne.org Current beta is 4.0.12.0 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.0.12.1
Het was zondag 10 februari 2008 om 23:17 uur dat jij iets schreef over '4.0.12.1' : Hallo Maxim, MM The Bat! 4.0.12.1 is available at MM http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb40121.rar MM What's new in 4.0.12.1 since 4.0.12.0: MM [*] Better looking new account dialogue indeed! :) -- Groeten, Cees :snowrub: Artificial Intelligence is no match for natural stupidity __ The Bat! 4.0.12.1 [A12F0392] running on Windows XP 5.1 build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.12.0 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Rogue Photos
Hallo Volker, On Sun, 10 Feb 2008 20:46:47 +0100GMT (10-2-2008, 20:46 +0100, where I live), you wrote: VA I sent a mail to Roelof 21 hrs, ago. - No, reply as yet. I'm just back home, besides I can't do anything with the pcwize site, that's Leif's. -- Groetjes, Roelof Yeah, but what's the speed of DARK? http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 4.0.11 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 3 pop3 accounts OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpQjaCwYlll8.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 4.0.12.0 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.0.12.1
Hello all, Sunday, February 10, 2008, Maxim Masiutin wrote: What's new in 4.0.12.1 since 4.0.12.0: [*] Better looking new account dialogue yes, better, but I do not like green background for left side personally, because whole program was coloured to blue very much... -- Bye Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 4.0.12.1 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 with MyMacros,XMP,AnotherMacros, NOD32 Antivirus plugin and AntispamSniper v 2.7.1.7 Notebook Toshiba, Core2 Duo 1.83 GHz, 1 GB RAM Current beta is 4.0.12.0 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Rogue Photos
On Sunday, February 10, 2008, 2:09:01 PM, Volker Ahrendt wrote: Pardon? - Roelof is one of the other moderators of that website and he has not replied as yet. That's what I wanted to say. ;-) he is allowed to be away from his computer for I think 48 hours a month -- Dwight A. Corrin 316.303.9385 phone ahead to fax dcorrin at fastmail.fm photo galleries at http://dcorrin.smugmug.com Using IMAP with The Bat! 4.0.12 on Windows Vista version 6,0 () Current beta is 4.0.12.0 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.0.0.22: A great job again!
On Sunday, February 10, 2008, 2:50:19 PM, MAU wrote: The other features I still miss are: Ignoring threads, Bookmarks and, perhaps the most, Toolbar Macros. And I forgot to mention... a real DRAFT folder :) how about being able to edit subject and messages oh and mailto: links in vista!! -- Dwight A. Corrin 316.303.9385 phone ahead to fax dcorrin at fastmail.fm photo galleries at http://dcorrin.smugmug.com Using IMAP with The Bat! 4.0.12 on Windows Vista version 6,0 () Current beta is 4.0.12.0 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Gradient message header lost (Re: 4.0.12.1)
Hello all, Sunday, February 10, 2008, Maxim Masiutin wrote: The Bat! 4.0.12.1 is available at http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb40121.rar What's new in 4.0.12.1 since 4.0.12.0: Blue and gradient Message Header Pane is lost, why? I expect, this is not by design... -- Bye Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 4.0.12.1 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 with MyMacros,XMP,AnotherMacros, NOD32 Antivirus plugin and AntispamSniper v 2.7.1.7 Notebook Toshiba, Core2 Duo 1.83 GHz, 1 GB RAM Current beta is 4.0.12.0 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.0.12.1
In reply to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : MM The Bat! 4.0.12.1 is available at MM http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb40121.rar Bugs status: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6751 Not fixed! https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6759 Not fixed! https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6581 Fixed! -- Best regards, Goncalo Farias The good of the people is the chief law. Current beta is 4.0.12.0 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Rogue Photos
Hallo Dwight, On Sun, 10 Feb 2008 16:34:30 -0600GMT (10-2-2008, 23:34 +0100, where I live), you wrote: Pardon? - Roelof is one of the other moderators of that website and he has not replied as yet. That's what I wanted to say. ;-) DAC he is allowed to be away from his computer for I think 48 hours a DAC month Wow. Thanks. Does that mean I'll get tied up again now that I'm back? BTW Don't answer this mail, no matter which way you try to get the best of me, you'll get trouted as this is getting way off topic. -- Groetjes, Roelof It's good to be the moderator Cookidence? I don't need no cookidence. http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 4.0.11 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 3 pop3 accounts OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpAkkGLSmtMD.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 4.0.12.0 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.0.12.1
Hello Maxim, The Bat! 4.0.12.1 is available at http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb40121.rar What's new in 4.0.12.1 since 4.0.12.0: [*] Better looking new account dialogue Nice! About https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6581 Confirm as fixed. I can now again sort folder in folder tree. Report closed. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.0.12.1 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.12.0 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
[The Bat! 4.0.12.1] Wrong Display of Recipient's Data in Address Fields (To:, CC:, BCC)
·---·-Date---· | QA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [1] | 2008-02-11 | ·---·· Hello, folks! My addressbook entries are of this kind: Name, Firstname [EMAIL PROTECTED] I don't know exactly when this feature broke, but tonight I realized that the display of the recipient's data in address fields (To:, CC:, BCC:) and in the message list have changed from Name, Firstname [EMAIL PROTECTED] to Name Firstname [EMAIL PROTECTED]. Can anyone confirm? Cheers! VA -- [1] Direct eMail without [tbb] in subject line will end in Nirvana! Using The Bat! 4.0.12.1 [Pro] on Windows XP [Pro] Service Pack 2. »A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof was to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools.« - Douglas Adams (1952 - 2001), »Mostly Harmless« Current beta is 4.0.12.0 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.0.0.22: A great job again!
On Sunday, February 10, 2008, 2:50:19 PM, MAU wrote: The other features I still miss are: Ignoring threads, Bookmarks and, perhaps the most, Toolbar Macros. And I forgot to mention... a real DRAFT folder :) how about being able to edit subject and messages oh and mailto: links in vista!! What GREAT ideas!! WHy hasn't someone mentioned these before??? :)) -- Rick The American Republican Party: Supporting Big Business - serfdom for the people v4.0.12.1 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.12.0 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Gradient message header lost (Re: 4.0.12.1)
Hello Marek, MM Blue and gradient Message Header Pane is lost, why? I expect, this is not MM by design... It's removed as a default setting, you can still configure it in the preferences. -- Best regards, Stefan Current beta is 4.0.12.0 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Rogue Photos
On Sunday, February 10, 2008, 4:57:51 PM, Roelof Otten wrote: I'm just back home, WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN??? :) -- Dwight A. Corrin 316.303.9385 phone ahead to fax dcorrin at fastmail.fm photo galleries at http://dcorrin.smugmug.com Using IMAP with The Bat! 4.0.12.1 on Windows Vista version 6,0 () Current beta is 4.0.12.0 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.0.12.1
On Sunday, February 10, 2008, 5:01:34 PM, Goncalo Farias wrote: MM The Bat! 4.0.12.1 is available at MM http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb40121.rar Bugs status: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6743 NOT FIXED -- Dwight A. Corrin 316.303.9385 phone ahead to fax dcorrin at fastmail.fm photo galleries at http://dcorrin.smugmug.com Using IMAP with The Bat! 4.0.12.1 on Windows Vista version 6,0 () Current beta is 4.0.12.0 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Gradient message header lost (Re: 4.0.12.1)
On Sunday, February 10, 2008, 5:03:26 PM, Marek Mikus wrote: Blue and gradient Message Header Pane is lost, why? I expect, this is not by design... just be thankful, and savor the moment. -- Dwight A. Corrin 316.303.9385 phone ahead to fax dcorrin at fastmail.fm photo galleries at http://dcorrin.smugmug.com Using IMAP with The Bat! 4.0.12.1 on Windows Vista version 6,0 () Current beta is 4.0.12.0 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Gradient message header lost (Re: 4.0.12.1)
Hello Stefan, Sunday, February 10, 2008, 3:50:51 PM, you wrote: Hello Marek, MM Blue and gradient Message Header Pane is lost, why? I expect, this is not MM by design... It's removed as a default setting, you can still configure it in the preferences. Now if we can just remove the 'blue color' in the Folder Tabs and Status Bars -- Best regards, Paulmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current beta is 4.0.12.0 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Gradient message header lost (Re: 4.0.12.1)
Hello all, Monday, February 11, 2008, Stefan Tanurkov wrote: MM Blue and gradient Message Header Pane is lost, why? I expect, this is not MM by design... It's removed as a default setting, you can still configure it in the preferences. guys, please, if You are changing GUI parts, create some new wizards, where will be user able to select this. Select means, there will be old and new modes selectable, because let me know, how easy can be gradient colour set back for viewer and editor... Current setting is not so easy, I know this from users. And not like now, where something is used for months and then installing new version, it is gone without confirmation or selection what mode should be used. This is same like new Microed implementation with fonts selection - if user used other font in NonProportional setting and installs v4, it sets font used in HTML Proportional setting. Users expect, You will ask them what setting should be used, if their old setting or new one. -- Bye Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 4.0.12.1 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 with MyMacros,XMP,AnotherMacros, NOD32 Antivirus plugin and AntispamSniper v 2.7.1.7 Notebook Toshiba, Core2 Duo 1.83 GHz, 1 GB RAM Current beta is 4.0.12.0 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Default email client, file assoiciations
Hello Charles, Saturday, February 9, 2008, 1:54:57 AM, you wrote: CH Hello Charles, CH Saturday, February 9, 2008, 12:55:18 AM, you wrote: CH Hello Charles, CH Thursday, February 7, 2008, 3:52:48 PM, you wrote: CH Hello Marck, CH Wednesday, February 6, 2008, 5:08:33 PM, you wrote: MDP Dear Charles, MDP @6-Feb-2008, 15:58 -0600 (06-Feb 21:58 here) Charles Hinchliffe [CH] MDP in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: CH Both 4.00.20 and 4.00.21 will NOT install itself as the default email CH program in Vista. TB does not check that it is the default client, CH even though the option is checked in Preferences. Also, the file CH .eml, .msg, .vcf and mailto: associations do not work. I would CH consider this a critical fix before release. MDP Confirmed. CH This is still occurring in 4.0.7 both in-place install and clean CH install. I have reported it in BT. CH https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6743 CH Please confirm. CH Still broken in 4.0.9. CH Broken in 4.0.11 as well. I just realized that I reported this un TB! Wishes instead of BT. I have now correctly reported it under BT as https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6773. -- Best regards, Charles mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ The Bat! E-Mail System version 4.0.11 on Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6000 AntispamSniper for the Bat! 2.7.1.5 Current beta is 4.0.12.0 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Version 4.0.12 and perhaps earlier too. Two sets of 'Plain text' and 'HTML' menu entries.
Hello MAU, Sunday, February 10, 2008, 8:25:07 PM, among other things, you wrote: No MAU, apart from adding the two format options as I described. It seems as though I have a unique Message Editor, but why or where it came from is beyond me!:( M Try something. Exit TB and rename your 'tbuser.def' file or move it to M a safe place. Then re-start TB and see if you get the Options/Message M format menu entries. If it doesn't work, you can return to your current M tbuser.def. Yes, that produces the normal window that others were reporting, with the Option/Format menu item still there. Will have to investigate what other changes it makes before I decide which one to continue using. Thanks for your suggestion. -- Best regards, Roger :flag-southafrica: The Bat! v4.0.12 with AntiSpamSniper 2.7.1.5, on Windows XP, version 5 1, build 2600 and Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.12.0 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Attachments Trouble?
Hi Ian, Sunday, February 10, 2008, 1:38:55 PM, you wrote: G'day Bob, [snip] BR KB or so). I don't see how editing a message could affect the BR attachment. I just came across this when preparing a message with attachments for Stefan. It is related to automatic save. Everything is fine until an automatic save kicks in and then the path to the attachment is lost the attachment becomes 0 kB in size and when you try and send it you get the invalid path error. The only solution to this is to disable the automatic save of messages which is sort of counter-productive. Thank you. For now, I have turned off auto-save. But perhaps in the future I will turn it back on, then make the attachment link only after I have finished editing. And perhaps it is better in the future if I have the attachments imbedded in the messages. Bob Riley Current beta is 4.0.12.0 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Plain on the statusbar in 4.0.11 (and note for All Russian Users)
Hello, Alexey. It seems that bez parolja (without password) must be mentioned in the text of the tooltip instead of plain. Am I right? Yea. Thanks. Fixed. NB: for all Prussian users. I'm also Russian translator. If you have questions or bugreports about translation - plz write a personal message to me. -- С уважением, Ivan mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current beta is 4.0.12.0 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[4]: Attachments Trouble?
Hi Kertész, Sunday, February 10, 2008, 10:54:06 AM, you wrote: mail folder. Is that (just as Eudora used) better, or is it better to keep the attachments in the mail itself? Better to store inside. BUT dont change it from one to the other. If you would like to move from sep. dir to store inside, do this: - export your all your mails from that account - make a new account where you select to store the mails in the message base - import your exported mails - verify that you see all mails - delete your old account, setup the filters again, set the proper name, email etc. for the new account Ack! I might melt. I dont have good experience with changing the store type for an existing account... I don't think I'll try. I have been warned, so the cost/benefit ration is too high. Also, users reported me the problem with a 0-length attach, too. We completely solved it by moving them to store the files inside the mails. Another problematic point was the settings in the Account/Files and directories tab: Bind attachments only when sending. You have to have it unchecked, otherwise you can get this error. I just now unchecked that option. Thank you. I will see what happens there. There are some very smart people in the beta team, which is much appreciated. Have a great week, everyone. Bob Riley -- Take Care, Bob -- Using The Bat! 4.0.12.1 (beta) on Windows XP 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.12.0 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
