Re: Expried certificates (was: 2nd request for help can't email from the bat.)
Hello all, Sunday, February 24, 2008, Thomas Fernandez wrote: Thanks for your opinion. I will assume that you will never accept an expired certificate. That's good for you. I have a different opinion. Why do you want to forbid me to do something? Just because you wouldn't want to do it yourself? How is that not unacceptable nannying? How does it hurt *you* when *I* accept an expired certificate? once developers accept such opinion, nobody will use correct certs then, everybody (including You) will confirm warning window instead changing certificate, because it is easier. Or do You have different reason to require this instead You are lazy to change certificate? -- Bye Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 4.0.14.5 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 with MyMacros,XMP,AnotherMacros, NOD32 Antivirus plugin and AntispamSniper v 2.7.1.7 Notebook Toshiba, Core2 Duo 1.83 GHz, 1 GB RAM Current beta is 4.0.14.4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Expried certificates (was: 2nd request for help can't email from the bat.)
Hello Marek, On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 12:49:47 +0100 GMT (24/02/2008, 18:49 +0700 GMT), Marek Mikus wrote: Good morning. You were up late last night, I didn't expect a reply so fast. Thanks. MM once developers accept such opinion, nobody will use correct MM certs then, everybody (including You) will confirm warning window MM instead changing certificate, because it is easier. That is their problem and mine, not yours. Besides, all (or at least many) email clients provide this option. So the internet will not blow just because TB! provides it too. MM Or do You have different reason to require this instead You are MM lazy to change certificate? Yes. See my example in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] There is no new cert, because the sysad is on vacation. That's just an example. In fact, I don't need to defend myelf to ask for an option, even though you might not want to use it. Why are people so vehemently against options, just because they don't want to use them? Especially options that other email clients offer. Are you trying to save the internet by disallowing this in TB!? -- Cheers, Thomas. INFLATION: Cutting money in half without damaging the paper. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 4.0.14.5 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.14.4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Database question, and GRRRRRRRRRRRRRR......
Hello Zygmunt, Support for IPC files was removed very long time ago, in 3.86.02 version. Max wrote then: Many thanks for the info. I think, I sign up for TBTECH. -- Vili The Bat 4.0.14.1 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Szervizcsomag 2 Current beta is 4.0.14.4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mass mailing - Newsletter
Dear Gunivortus, -- Samstag, 23. Februar 2008, 07:48:49: Maybe. But it's mainly me, my attitude. I wants things comfortable. Starting a wizard, which sdays: I do also Newslettering and it's so easy. Her we go: Step 1: IMPORTANT: Before you start set Focus to the Account you want to use. Open the Address Book and go to: 'File - Mass Mailing using template - Quick template' Select 'New' Step 2: Fill in the 'Handle' and 'Description' Now come the Macros that is almost the simplest part. (I attache for you one sample and if you need more Macros just press the 'Macro' Button at bottom left) Confirm and Close with 'Ok' Button BTW: look at the 'Options' if you want to have something set. ',- [ Your possible QT for Newsletter ] '| Dear %TOFNAME, '| Dear all, '| %REPLYTO=Your Name [EMAIL PROTECTED]%SUBJECT=[if you have a date in the Subject] %DATE='yyymmdd' '| %LANGUAGE=am%RCPTCONFIRM%READCONFIRM%SINGLERE '| [Here I put any thing important before the actual NL] '| '| %CLIPBOARD [--- VERY IMPORTANT see below] '| '| ---==[ FURTHER NEWS ]- '| Have you '| '| Your Name and Sig '|http://PossibleURI.com `- Step 3: Open an empty 'Edit Mail Message' (F5). Now write what ever you like to have in the the Newsletter including all format. Step 4: Copy the whole Text with 'Ctrl-C' and return to the Address Book and select again: 'File - Mass Mailing using template' Now you should see your QT-Name and Description Select it! Make further Selection as you need (I usually put all in the Outbox fist - just in case) Hit 'Go' (If all is first in the Outbox then go there and process) You are done - Enjoy! :) For me this has always worked fine. As you can see, the %CLIPBOARD Macro is the trick. Every time you have a new Newsletter, just write it in a new Edit Message Window, Ctrl-C then run QT as in 'Step 4'. -- best regards | Using The Bat! 3.95.6 www.EddieCastelli.com | on Windows 2000 5.0 Eddie | Build 2195 Service Pack 4 on Tour | Current beta is 4.0.14.4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mass mailing - Newsletter
Hello all, Friday, February 22, 2008, Gunivortus Goos wrote: Never made a quick template, nor any macros. If there's no wizard for it to lead me step-by-step through it, I keep my hands off of it. 1) open editor and write a message 2) select whole message and use Utilities | Create a Quick template 3) enter name and description for this Quick template 4) click to Options tab and check Use for New messages/Mass mailing 5) scroll down to end of template and add macro for Sender - %FROM macro 6) add macro for Subject - %SUBJECT macro 7) optionally add macro for attaching file - %ATTACHFILE macro etc. 8) save QuickTemplate and open Address Book 9) select contacts You want to send QT to 10) select menu entry File | Mass mailing using template and select created QT 11) in newly opened dialog select account and action And that's all -- Bye Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 4.0.14.4 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 with MyMacros,XMP,AnotherMacros, NOD32 Antivirus plugin and AntispamSniper v 2.7.1.7 Notebook Toshiba, Core2 Duo 1.83 GHz, 1 GB RAM Current beta is 4.0.14.4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
4.0.14.5 Stange beahaviour for icons
Hello , with the version 4.0.14.5 I obtain a strange behaviour for icon: most of those in folder/message are black squares, and the the toolbar icons are shifted (look at attachment). I have no glyph file it the The Bat ! directory. ??? -- Regards, Francismailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Message handmade on TB! v.4.0.14.5 on Windows Vista 6000 AntispamSniper for TB! 2.7.1.5attachment: 401415_icons.png Current beta is 4.0.14.4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.0.14.5 Stange beahaviour for icons
Hello all, Sunday, February 24, 2008, Francis Dhumes wrote: with the version 4.0.14.5 I obtain a strange behaviour for icon: most of those in folder/message are black squares, and the the toolbar icons are shifted (look at attachment). I have no glyph file it the The Bat ! directory. any batskin.xml in home directory? ??? is there a reason for so many question marks -- Bye Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 4.0.14.5 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 with MyMacros,XMP,AnotherMacros, NOD32 Antivirus plugin and AntispamSniper v 2.7.1.7 Notebook Toshiba, Core2 Duo 1.83 GHz, 1 GB RAM Current beta is 4.0.14.4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.0.14.5 Stange beahaviour for icons
Hi Francis, I have no glyph file it the The Bat ! directory. ??? delete the batskin.xml file. -- Best whishes Miroslav BAT-MAIL.DE.VU - http://bat-mail.de.vu Current beta is 4.0.14.4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.0.14.5 Stange behaviour for icons
Hi Francis, No, I have no batskin.xml file in the home directory. look global for batskin.xml, I am sure you have them. -- Best whishes Miroslav BAT-MAIL.DE.VU - http://bat-mail.de.vu Current beta is 4.0.14.4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: 4.0.14.5 Stange behaviour for icons
Hello Miroslav, Le dimanche 24 février 2008 à 15:40:42, you wrote : No, I have no batskin.xml file in the home directory. MF look global for batskin.xml, I am sure you have them. You're perfectly right: it was in the home directory of users settings (and not in tb! mail directory). I don't know why it was here: maybe a Vista issue ? Thanks; my bat look fine again. -- Regards, Francismailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Message handmade on TB! v.4.0.14.5 on Windows Vista 6000 AntispamSniper for TB! 2.7.1.5 Current beta is 4.0.14.4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Mass mailing - Newsletter
Hello Eddie, But it's mainly me, my attitude. I wants things comfortable. Starting a wizard, which sdays: I do also Newslettering and it's so easy. Her we go: Step 1: IMPORTANT: Before you start set Focus to the Account you want to use. Innewversion (.17, not yet published) Stefan fixed https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5063 So, you will not have to focus on new account :) And thank for the mail! I learnt some tricks from it! -- Vili The Bat 4.0.14.1 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Szervizcsomag 2 Current beta is 4.0.14.4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: About the font of message list and header pane (was Re: The Bat! 4.0.14.5)
Hello Stefan, Saturday, February 23, 2008, 7:25:56 PM, you wrote: Yes, I was already thinking about that. that's great. I'd like to see it soon. Please tell me how it feels to write messages in Chinese with the new MicroEd? Is it OK or should be improved? First of all, the new MicroEd is great. But it still has some glitches when writing Chinese letters: 1. The wrapping. The current MicroEd doesn't wrap/format Chinese or other DBCS sentences. 2. The spellchecker. Of course, there is no spellcheck for Chinese words. But when I write a message mixed Chinese and English words, all Chinese words are marked as wrong by spellchecker. I cannot turn off the spellchecker because I still need it to check my English words. BTW, the linespacing, currently I cannot specify the linespacing in MicroEd. I got trouble to tell the different lines when I using large font in MicroEd/PTV. -- Best regards, drifthatmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Translator of Chinese The Bat! Using The Bat! v4.0.14.5 with AntispamSniper v2.5.0.2 MyMacros 1.11a on Windows 2000 Advanced Server (v5.0.2195, Service Pack 4) Current beta is 4.0.14.4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
[The Bat! 4.0.14.5] Unresolved Issues
Hello, folks! These more or less annoying Bugs should be fixed soon: - https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6720 Hyphenation at Line End does not work properly (MicroEd) I think this issue is of importance especially for German speaking users of The Bat!. - https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6838 Wrong Display of Recipient's Data in Address Fields (To:, CC:, BCC) There also seems to be a dependency to this issue: - https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6846 Macro %TOFNAME displays Lastname instead of Firstname - https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6781 Cursor Position in Message Editor's Status Bar disapeared - https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5458 Scrollbar Thumbs in message editor headers do not work - https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6844 HTML messages Download all images does not work Please leave appropriate notes in each issue. — Thanks in advance! :-) Cheers! VA - -- QA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] — Date: 2008-02-24 Direct eMail without [tbb] in subject line will end in Nirvana! Using The Bat! 4.0.14.5 [Pro] on Windows XP [Pro] Service Pack 2. »I love deadlines. I like the whooshing sound they make as they fly by.« Douglas Adams (1952 - 2001) Current beta is 4.0.14.4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mass mailing - Newsletter
Dear Kertész, -- Sonntag, 24. Februar 2008, 16:49:38: In new version (.17, not yet published) Stefan fixed https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5063 So, you will not have to focus on new account :) Ah, that's nice indeed. And thank for the mail! I learnt some tricks from it! Well that's what this ML is for (or the OT or UDL). Look also at the posting of Marek mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]. He mentioned a few items I forgot. -- best regards | Using The Bat! 3.95.6 www.EddieCastelli.com | on Windows 2000 5.0 Eddie | Build 2195 Service Pack 4 on Tour | Current beta is 4.0.14.4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
[The Bat! 4.0.14.5] MicroEd Setting Auto-wrap
Hello, folks! Just curious for a better understanding: If in Options|Viewer/Editor|Editor preferences Auto-wrap is *activated* for MicroEd, is it supposed to work also with pasted text or not? I know that auto-wrap causes automatic line breaks, if one types text manually, but how is this feature supposed to work with pasted text? Thanks in advance! Cheers! VA - -- QA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] — Date: 2008-02-24 Direct eMail without [tbb] in subject line will end in Nirvana! Using The Bat! 4.0.14.5 [Pro] on Windows XP [Pro] Service Pack 2. »He felt that his whole life was some kind of dream and he sometimes wondered whose it was and whether they were enjoying it.« Douglas Adams (1952 - 2001), »The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy« Current beta is 4.0.14.4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: [The Bat! 4.0.14.5] MicroEd Setting Auto-wrap
Hello Volker, If in Options|Viewer/Editor|Editor preferences Auto-wrap is activated for MicroEd, is it supposed to work also with pasted text or not? No. Although I know you don't like it, your only option is 'Edit/Paste formatted' (Shift+Ctrl+Ins) or a 'Ctrl+L' after a normal paste. I know that auto-wrap causes automatic line breaks, if one types text manually, but how is this feature supposed to work with pasted text? It doesn't affect pasted text. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.0.14.5 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.14.4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: [The Bat! 4.0.14.5] MicroEd Setting Auto-wrap
[Reply to: »MAU« · 2008-02-24 · 20:49 h (CET)] Hello, MAU! I know that auto-wrap causes automatic line breaks, if one types text manually, but how is this feature supposed to work with pasted text? It doesn't affect pasted text. Why is it so? Either auto-wrap is enabled and *all* text — manually typed or pasted — will cause an automatic line break at the defined right margin (70 characters or so). Or it is disabled and no text will wrapped at all. I do not understand in *this* case, where the difference between typed and pasted text should be. Who can enlighten me? :-) BTW: Your signature delimiter seems to be broken (see below): -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.0.14.5 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Cheers! VA - -- QA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] — Date: 2008-02-24 Direct eMail without [tbb] in subject line will end in Nirvana! Using The Bat! 4.0.14.5 [Pro] on Windows XP [Pro] Service Pack 2. »Infinity itself looks flat and uninteresting. Looking up into the night sky is looking into infinity — distance is incomprehensible and therefore meaningless.« Douglas Adams (1952 - 2001), »The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy« Current beta is 4.0.14.4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Shortcut Ctrl+P prints message in main window instead viewer
[Reply to: »Roger Phillips« · 2008-02-23 · 11:03 h (CET)] Hello, Roger! [Access Violation] Looks as though your tbuser.DEF file or the path to it may have become corrupted. Perhaps try changing your the name of your tbuser.DEF file, or move it away from the Bat! folder and then restart TB. It should generate a new tbuser.DEF file and file path which may solve the problem. I deleted tbuser.def and it was successfully re-written at start-up, but did not solve the problem. Still AV: --- The Bat! --- Access violation at address 00659420 in module 'thebat.exe'. Read of address 0001. --- OK --- Cheers! VA - -- QA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] — Date: 2008-02-24 Direct eMail without [tbb] in subject line will end in Nirvana! Using The Bat! 4.0.14.5 [Pro] on Windows XP [Pro] Service Pack 2. »There is a theory which states that if ever anyone discovers exactly what the Universe is for and why it is here, it will instantly vanish and be replaced by something even more bizarre and incomprehensible. There is another theory which states that this has already happened …« Douglas Adams (1952 - 2001) »The Restaurant At The End Of The Universe« Current beta is 4.0.14.4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Expried certificates (was: 2nd request for help can't email from the bat.)
2/24/2008 3:19 PM Hi Thomas, On 2/24/2008 Thomas Fernandez wrote: TF Why are people so vehemently against options, just because they don't TF want to use them? Especially options that other email clients offer. TF Are you trying to save the internet by disallowing this in TB!? Why bother with a secure connection if it can be compromised? If I set a user's antivirus to advise when there is an update instead of doing it automatically they almost invariably will opt out of doing it. Even worse, when it is time for renewal they will click out of renewing for 45 days in a row instead of renewing. Then I get the phone calls after the expiration asking for help because the opportunity to click a renewal link has disappeared. Even my school teacher daughter did this! I am fascinated that you want to complain because TB has the courage to do the right thing instead of being politically correct like all (or most) of the others. - -- Take Care, Paul Voyager v.3.99.4 on Win2k SP4-Rollup1 5.0.2195 No IMAP OTFE Current beta is 4.0.14.4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: [The Bat! 4.0.14.5] MicroEd Setting Auto-wrap
Hello Volker, It doesn't affect pasted text. Why is it so? Because that's the way RIT guys designed it, that's all. BTW: Your signature delimiter seems to be broken (see below): Yes, I can see it now. I wonder why. It looks ok in the editor window, let's see what happens with this one. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.0.14.5 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.14.4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: [OT] Quick Templates vs. Newsletter Program (was: Mass mailing - Newsletter)
Guten Tag Volker Ahrendt, am Freitag, 22. Februar 2008 um 22:39 schrieben Sie: Nope. I'll buy a Newsletterprogram with a wizard. :-) How much money would you pay for such a program? — Pay me half the price and I give you a step-by-step how-to! ;-) You are (too?) cheap! I wonder if you would do this for 15 Euro? I tested and bought serveral Newsletter Mailer for a association recently. -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen Jens Franik mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Picture of me? X-Rogue http://www.de2all.de/Kr_bat.jpg The Bat! 4.0.14.5 Windows 2000 5.0 build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current beta is 4.0.14.4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Expried certificates (was: 2nd request for help can't email from the bat.)
I am fascinated that you want to complain because TB has the courage to do the right thing instead of being politically correct like all (or most) of the others. It isn't a case of courage but rather usability and allowing people to use the program as they see fit. -- Is the message delimiter bug fixed yet? -- Rick If all life is sacred ... How can Republicans be pro life AND for capital punishment? v4.0.14.5 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.14.4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: [The Bat! 4.0.14.5] MicroEd Setting Auto-wrap
No. Although I know you don't like it, your only option is 'Edit/Paste formatted' (Shift+Ctrl+Ins) or a 'Ctrl+L' after a normal paste. What does [ctrl] L do again? I forget -- Is the message delimiter bug fixed yet? -- Rick Are we in the Post-Bush era yet? v4.0.14.5 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.14.4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: [OT] Quick Templates vs. Newsletter Program
[Reply to: »Jens Franik« · 2008-02-24 · 21:40 h (CET)] Hello, Jens! Nope. I'll buy a Newsletterprogram with a wizard. :-) How much money would you pay for such a program? — Pay me half the price and I give you a step-by-step how-to! ;-) You are (too?) cheap! I wonder if you would do this for 15 Euro? Yep! - As Eddie already described in Message-ID: mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]. This is a 10 minutes work, that would be 90,-- €/h. ;-) Cheers! VA - -- QA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] — Date: 2008-02-24 Direct eMail without [tbb] in subject line will end in Nirvana! Using The Bat! 4.0.14.5 [Pro] on Windows XP [Pro] Service Pack 2. »He felt that his whole life was some kind of dream and he sometimes wondered whose it was and whether they were enjoying it.« Douglas Adams (1952 - 2001), »The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy« Current beta is 4.0.14.4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Expried certificates (was: 2nd request for help can't email from the bat.)
2/24/2008 3:59 PM Hi Rick, On 2/24/2008 Rick Grunwald wrote: I am fascinated that you want to complain because TB has the courage to do the right thing instead of being politically correct like all (or most) of the others. RG It isn't a case of courage but rather usability and It is hardly an usability issue. On one hand you say you want to be secure and on the other you want to override the security. Make your choice and pay your dues or go to some other place that promotes inappropriate compromise. RG allowing people RG to use the program as they see fit. After 20 years I have yet to see a program that morphs itself to the whims of the user. Rather the user has a responsibility to learn the rules and play by them or go to a different ball game. - -- Take Care, Paul Voyager v.3.99.4 on Win2k SP4-Rollup1 5.0.2195 No IMAP OTFE Current beta is 4.0.14.4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: [The Bat! 4.0.14.5] MicroEd Setting Auto-wrap
Hello Rick, No. Although I know you don't like it, your only option is 'Edit/Paste formatted' (Shift+Ctrl+Ins) or a 'Ctrl+L' after a normal paste. What does [ctrl] L do again? I forget Sorry :( I meant to say 'Alt+L'. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.0.14.5 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.14.4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: [The Bat! 4.0.14.5] MicroEd Setting Auto-wrap
[Reply to: »MAU« · 2008-02-24 · 21:32 h (CET)] It doesn't affect pasted text. Why is it so? Because that's the way RIT guys designed it, that's all. HARHARHAR! :-D This one will get a top ranking in my personal Top-Ten of feeblest arguments in TBB Mailing List! If everybody here and at RITLabs would think this way, e.g. we would never have an optional download of external images in HTML messages nor would we have a HTML editor in The Bat!. SCNR … Cheers! VA - -- QA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] — Date: 2008-02-24 Direct eMail without [tbb] in subject line will end in Nirvana! Using The Bat! 4.0.14.5 [Pro] on Windows XP [Pro] Service Pack 2. »Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability to learn from the experience of others, are also remarkable for their apparent disinclination to do so.« Douglas Adams (1952 - 2001), »Last Chance to See« Current beta is 4.0.14.4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mass mailing - Newsletter
Hello Gunivortus, GG Never made a quick template, nor any macros. If there's no wizard GG for it to lead me step-by-step through it, I keep my hands off of it. That is sad. You are cheating yourself. Nope. I'll buy a Newsletterprogram with a wizard. :-) Try 'GroupMail' http://www.group-mail.com/asp/common/editions.asp?f=32 I've used the free edition and it's simpler than the mechanics in a spoon. It even has an 'Introduction Wizard' that walks you through everything you need to configure. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.0.14.5 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.14.4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: [The Bat! 4.0.14.5] MicroEd Setting Auto-wrap
[Reply to: »Rick Grunwald« · 2008-02-24 · 21:50 h (CET)] Hello, Rick! What does [ctrl] L do again? I forget Re-format text left aligned. Cheers! VA - -- QA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] — Date: 2008-02-24 Direct eMail without [tbb] in subject line will end in Nirvana! Using The Bat! 4.0.14.5 [Pro] on Windows XP [Pro] Service Pack 2. »You live and learn. At any rate, you live.« Douglas Adams (1952 - 2001) Current beta is 4.0.14.4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Expried certificates
Hello Paul, Sunday, February 24, 2008, 10:06:36 PM, you wrote: PVN r go to some other place that promotes PVN inappropriate compromise Man, Man, Man! Miserie, Miserie, Miserie! Can someone tell me how it is determined that any given compromise is inappropriate? -- Is the message delimiter bug fixed yet? -- Rick Thank you Mr. Bush for showing us how badly we need change v4.0.14.5 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.14.4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: [The Bat! 4.0.14.5] MicroEd Setting Auto-wrap
2/24/2008 4:38 PM Hi Volker, On 2/24/2008 Volker Ahrendt wrote: VA Because it is *inconsistent*: Either auto-wrap is enabled and *all* VA text — manually typed or pasted — will cause an automatic line break VA or it is disabled and no text will wrapped at all. It may be inappropriate to reformat pasted text. Especially when someone is attempting to convey a graphic as text. When I paste and want to reformat I automatically go [ALT][L]. If I am slow it takes 1/2 second to do it. - -- Take Care, Paul Voyager v.3.99.4 on Win2k SP4-Rollup1 5.0.2195 No IMAP OTFE Current beta is 4.0.14.4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Expried certificates
2/24/2008 4:42 PM Hi Rick, On 2/24/2008 Rick Grunwald wrote: RG Can someone tell me how it is determined that any given compromise is RG inappropriate? When the purpose is compromised. This is not an either/or issue. There is a single purpose. If you do not want the security you have the option to not use it. - -- Take Care, Paul Voyager v.3.99.4 on Win2k SP4-Rollup1 5.0.2195 No IMAP OTFE Current beta is 4.0.14.4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Expried certificates
2/24/2008 4:37 PM Hi Mark, On 2/24/2008 Mark Partous wrote: PVN r go to some other place that promotes PVN inappropriate compromise MP Man, Man, Man! Miserie, Miserie, Miserie! True!, True!, True! - -- Take Care, Paul Voyager v.3.99.4 on Win2k SP4-Rollup1 5.0.2195 No IMAP OTFE Current beta is 4.0.14.4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Expried certificates
Hello Paul, Sunday, February 24, 2008, 10:06:36 PM, you wrote: PVN r go to some other place that promotes PVN inappropriate compromise Man, Man, Man! Miserie, Miserie, Miserie! -- Mark Current beta is 4.0.14.4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: [The Bat! 4.0.14.5] MicroEd Setting Auto-wrap
Hello all, Sunday, February 24, 2008, Volker Ahrendt wrote: Because that's the way RIT guys designed it, that's all. HARHARHAR! :-D This one will get a top ranking in my personal Top-Ten of feeblest arguments in TBB Mailing List! If everybody here and at RITLabs would think this way, e.g. we would never have an optional download of external images in HTML messages nor would we have a HTML editor in The Bat!. You have pasting formatted optionable, so what is wrong? And about downloading images, what is not optionable? You have problem to disable opening URL manager automatically? -- Bye Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 4.0.14.5 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 with MyMacros,XMP,AnotherMacros, NOD32 Antivirus plugin and AntispamSniper v 2.7.1.7 Notebook Toshiba, Core2 Duo 1.83 GHz, 1 GB RAM Current beta is 4.0.14.4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: [The Bat! 4.0.14.5] MicroEd Setting Auto-wrap
[Reply to: »Marek Mikus« · 2008-02-24 · 22:21 h (CET)] Because that's the way RIT guys designed it, that's all. If everybody here and at RITLabs would think this way, e.g. we would never have an optional download of external images in HTML messages nor would we have a HTML editor in The Bat!. You have pasting formatted optionable, so what is wrong? Because it is *inconsistent*: Either auto-wrap is enabled and *all* text — manually typed or pasted — will cause an automatic line break or it is disabled and no text will wrapped at all. And about downloading images, what is not optionable? You have problem to disable opening URL manager automatically? I do not have any problems with it. It was just an example (see above)! ;-) Cheers! VA - -- QA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] — Date: 2008-02-24 Direct eMail without [tbb] in subject line will end in Nirvana! Using The Bat! 4.0.14.5 [Pro] on Windows XP [Pro] Service Pack 2. »The story so far: In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and has been widely regarded as a bad move.« Douglas Adams (1952 - 2001) »The Restaurant at the End of the Universe« Current beta is 4.0.14.4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: [The Bat! 4.0.14.5] MicroEd Setting Auto-wrap
Hello all, Sunday, February 24, 2008, Volker Ahrendt wrote: I do not have any problems with it. It was just an example (see above)! ;-) sorry, I do not uderstand why we are discussing hypothesis here then... -- Bye Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 4.0.14.5 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 with MyMacros,XMP,AnotherMacros, NOD32 Antivirus plugin and AntispamSniper v 2.7.1.7 Notebook Toshiba, Core2 Duo 1.83 GHz, 1 GB RAM Current beta is 4.0.14.4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Slow Mail Processing
Guten Tag Kertész Vilmos, am Samstag, 23. Februar 2008 um 17:35 schrieben Sie: I can connect to your computer thru TeamViewer (www.teamviewer.com, you just have to install the client module, ShowMyPC.de is availiable in English and needs no installation at all - and is using VNC over SSH, works through NAT and (SSH open) Firewalls. Of course it's free. -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen Jens Franik mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Picture of me? X-Rogue http://www.de2all.de/Kr_bat.jpg The Bat! 4.0.14.5 Windows 2000 5.0 build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current beta is 4.0.14.4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: [The Bat! 4.0.14.5] MicroEd Setting Auto-wrap
Hello Volker, Because that's the way RIT guys designed it, that's all. HARHARHAR! :-D This one will get a top ranking in my personal Top-Ten of feeblest arguments in TBB Mailing List! Only at the top? I thought it would be even higher. ;) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.0.14.5 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.14.4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: [The Bat! 4.0.14.5] MicroEd Setting Auto-wrap
[Reply to: »Paul Van Noord« · 2008-02-24 · 22:42 h (CET)] Hello, Paul! Because it is *inconsistent*: Either auto-wrap is enabled and *all* text — manually typed or pasted — will cause an automatic line break or it is disabled and no text will wrapped at all. It may be inappropriate to reformat pasted text. Especially when someone is attempting to convey a graphic as text. When I paste and want to reformat I automatically go [ALT][L]. If I am slow it takes 1/2 second to do it. Yes, that's how I have handled it for 7 years, but with 4.0.x.x a bug appeared: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6842 (Title: Problem with [alt]+[L] in MicroEd) The/My main problem is Step 2[*] of the bug description, but this looong discussion already started with Step 1 and ended in a closed/unresolved issue and this thread. *) I have a problem with MicroEd when I paste unformatted text: […] 2. After [alt]+[L] the line breaks are okay, but beginning of the lines are not visible and a useless horizontal scrollbar occurs. […] I think, I am going round in circles in this matter. ;-) Good night! VA - -- QA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] — Date: 2008-02-24 Direct eMail without [tbb] in subject line will end in Nirvana! Using The Bat! 4.0.14.5 [Pro] on Windows XP [Pro] Service Pack 2. »Space is big. You just won't believe how vastly, hugely, mind-bogglingly big it is. I mean, you may think it's a long way down the road to the chemist's, but that's just peanuts to space.« Douglas Adams (1952 - 2001), »The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy« Current beta is 4.0.14.4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Signature delimiter bug (was: [The Bat! 4.0.14.5] MicroEd Setting Auto-wrap)
Hello Rick, On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 15:50:17 -0500 GMT (25/02/2008, 03:50 +0700 GMT), Rick Grunwald wrote: RG Is the message delimiter bug fixed yet? What bug (number / URL)? Sig delimiter works fine here. -- Cheers, Thomas. When you breath, you inspire. When you do not breath, you expire. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 4.0.14.5 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.14.4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: [The Bat! 4.0.14.5] MicroEd Setting Auto-wrap
Guten Tag Marek Mikus, am Sonntag, 24. Februar 2008 um 22:21 schrieben Sie: And about downloading images, what is not optionable? You have problem to disable opening URL manager automatically? The Design of the URL-Manager is still a dunge-hill (sorry). - you can't see which URL belongs to actual message - you can't use rules to allow/forbid (eMail tracking Links) - you don't have option to disable it - no options how you would like to use it - (download all now - WIP) The Design maybe was an drawing of the RAW Window, but not an technological reflection. -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen Jens Franik mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Picture of me? X-Rogue http://www.de2all.de/Kr_bat.jpg The Bat! 4.0.14.5 Windows 2000 5.0 build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current beta is 4.0.14.4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Expried certificates
2/24/2008 5:45 PM Hi Volker, On 2/24/2008 Volker Ahrendt wrote: VA *Abgelehnt*, weil … Das war schon immer so! ;-) SCNR VA Seriously, that would be a good option. VA Cheers! VA VA I agree... maybe. I have tried to count how many people I know outside of the techie lists I belong to. I can't get past 2 - -- Take Care, Paul Voyager v.3.99.4 on Win2k SP4-Rollup1 5.0.2195 No IMAP OTFE Current beta is 4.0.14.4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Expried certificates (was: 2nd request for help can't email from the bat.)
Guten Tag Thomas Fernandez, am Sonntag, 24. Februar 2008 um 13:07 schrieben Sie: Are you trying to save the internet by disallowing this in TB!? I thought this right the moment now. I would support a urgly and red Error-Message with a Confirmation Dialog to User, becaue it is security relevant, but i would want it to allow this for some days/weeks/months/forever (with a second confirmation). -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen Jens Franik mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Picture of me? X-Rogue http://www.de2all.de/Kr_bat.jpg The Bat! 4.0.14.5 Windows 2000 5.0 build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current beta is 4.0.14.4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Expried certificates
[Reply to: »Jens Franik« · 2008-02-24 · 23:28 h (CET)] Hello, Jens! Are you trying to save the internet by disallowing this in TB!? I thought this right the moment now. I would support a urgly and red Error-Message with a Confirmation Dialog to User, becaue it is security relevant, but i would want it to allow this for some days/weeks/months/forever (with a second confirmation). *Abgelehnt*, weil … Das war schon immer so! ;-) SCNR Seriously, that would be a good option. Cheers! VA - -- QA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] — Date: 2008-02-24 Direct eMail without [tbb] in subject line will end in Nirvana! Using The Bat! 4.0.14.5 [Pro] on Windows XP [Pro] Service Pack 2. »The idea that Bill Gates has appeared like a knight in shining armor to lead all customers out of a mire of technological chaos neatly ignores the fact that it was he who, by peddling second-rate technology, led them into it in the first place.« Douglas Adams (1952 - 2001) Current beta is 4.0.14.4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: [The Bat! 4.0.14.5] MicroEd Setting Auto-wrap
Guten Tag MAU, am Sonntag, 24. Februar 2008 um 22:06 schrieben Sie: No. Although I know you don't like it, your only option is 'Edit/Paste formatted' (Shift+Ctrl+Ins) or a 'Ctrl+L' after a normal paste. Sorry I meant to say 'Alt+L'. Big :beer: to MAU, you saved my futher life again!! Always i paste Text into Mails, i do format it with going behind and pressing space to activate line-wrap. And only one ALT-L does it now :-O Could somebody set up a knowledge base or wiki for the best tips and quirks for The-Bat! -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen Jens Franik mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Picture of me? X-Rogue http://www.de2all.de/Kr_bat.jpg The Bat! 4.0.14.5 Windows 2000 5.0 build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current beta is 4.0.14.4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Slow Mail Processing
Guten Tag Kertész Vilmos, sorry, i was wrong, it's http://www.showmypc.com -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen Jens Franik mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Picture of me? X-Rogue http://www.de2all.de/Kr_bat.jpg The Bat! 4.0.14.5 Windows 2000 5.0 build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current beta is 4.0.14.4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Expried certificates
Hello Paul, On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 16:44:56 -0500 GMT (25/02/2008, 04:44 +0700 GMT), Paul Van Noord wrote: RG Can someone tell me how it is determined that any given RG compromise is inappropriate? PVN When the purpose is compromised. This is not an either/or issue. PVN There is a single purpose. If you do not want the security you PVN have the option to not use it. No, I don't have the option. I'm asking for the option not to use it, i.e. the option to accept an expired certificate. If there were a way to collect mail with a non-secure connection, for example plain on port 25, other people on this list would hit me. Besides, for security reasons, this port is closed and only secure connection is allowed, with the cert expired and the sysad on vacation. Right now, the only way to read my mail--in the scenario mentioned, which is not unusual--is to use another one of a myriad of email clients, most of them free. -- Cheers, Thomas. You should never kiss a girl unless you have enough bucks or buy her a big ring and her own VCR, 'cause she'll want to have videos of the wedding. (Jim, 10) http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 4.0.14.5 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.14.4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Associations still do not work under Vista
Hello, I have reopened https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6749, I can not confirm and another user from forum tested latest build and can not confirm it. Anybody can check it yet? -- Thanks and Bye, Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 4.0.14.5 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Notebook Acer, Pentium4-M 2.2 GHz, 512 MB RAM, ADSL line Current beta is 4.0.14.4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Expried certificates
Hello Paul, On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 17:43:39 -0500 GMT (25/02/2008, 05:43 +0700 GMT), Paul Van Noord wrote: TF Right now, the only way to read my mail--in the scenario mentioned, TF which is not unusual--is to use another one of a myriad of email TF clients, most of them free. PVN Webmail temporarily? You are not being serious, are you? Eudora Light is installed on all our office computers. It would be easier to just switch email clients. -- Cheers, Thomas. Kind stuerzte 15 m von der Schulter des Vaters. * http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 4.0.14.5 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.14.4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: [The Bat! 4.0.14.5] MicroEd Setting Auto-wrap
On Sunday, February 24, 2008, 3:42:21 PM, Paul Van Noord wrote: It may be inappropriate to reformat pasted text. Especially when someone is attempting to convey a graphic as text. or a really long URL -- Dwight A. Corrin 316.303.9385 phone ahead to fax dcorrin at fastmail.fm photo galleries at http://dcorrin.smugmug.com Using IMAP with The Bat! 4.0.14.5 on Windows Vista version 6,0 () Current beta is 4.0.14.4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: [The Bat! 4.0.14.5] MicroEd Setting Auto-wrap
Hello Jens, No. Although I know you don't like it, your only option is 'Edit/Paste formatted' (Shift+Ctrl+Ins) or a 'Ctrl+L' after a normal paste. Sorry I meant to say 'Alt+L'. Big :beer: to MAU, you saved my futher life again!! Always i paste Text into Mails, i do format it with going behind and pressing space to activate line-wrap. RTFM my friend, RTFM! From Help/Writing Mail/Automatic text formatting ,- [ ] | Reformat on the fly | | To reformat your text while typing, use key strokes: | · Alt+L - Left-align | · Alt+C - Centre | · Alt+R - Right-align | · Alt+J - Justify `- :) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.0.14.5 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.14.4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Duplicated The Bat! in Taskbar under Vista
Hello, user reported me, sometimes it has TB duplicated in Taskbar, anybody can confirm? User has Windows Vista build 6000 and 4.0.14.3. taskbar preferences -- Thanks and Bye, Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 4.0.14.5 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Notebook Acer, Pentium4-M 2.2 GHz, 512 MB RAM, ADSL line duplicated_bat_in_taskbar.gifpreferences.gif Current beta is 4.0.14.4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: [The Bat! 4.0.14.5] MicroEd Setting Auto-wrap
Hello Jens, And only one ALT-L does it now :-o Could somebody set up a knowledge base or wiki for the best tips and quirks for The-Bat! http://www.pcwize.com/thebat/tbudp/tiki-index.php -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.0.14.5 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.14.4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
SimpleMAPI setting disappeared under Vista
Hello, I have checked latest build under Vista, I am not sure if it was removed now or earlier, but in Preferences dialog, Applications section, setting SimpleMAPI disappeared. Anybody knows why? -- Thanks and Bye, Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 4.0.14.5 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Notebook Acer, Pentium4-M 2.2 GHz, 512 MB RAM, ADSL line Current beta is 4.0.14.4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Expried certificates
2/24/2008 5:43 PM Hi Thomas, On 2/24/2008 Thomas Fernandez wrote: TF Right now, the only way to read my mail--in the scenario mentioned, TF which is not unusual--is to use another one of a myriad of email TF clients, most of them free. Webmail temporarily? - -- Take Care, Paul Voyager v.3.99.4 on Win2k SP4-Rollup1 5.0.2195 No IMAP OTFE Current beta is 4.0.14.4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Expried certificates
Guten Tag Paul Van Noord, am Sonntag, 24. Februar 2008 um 23:43 schrieben Sie: TF Right now, the only way to read my mail--in the scenario mentioned, TF which is not unusual--is to use another one of a myriad of email TF clients, most of them free. Webmail temporarily? There are a lot of _workarounds_ , but this means i do not need The-Bat! again nor to purchase a new licence for it. -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen Jens Franik mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Picture of me? X-Rogue http://www.de2all.de/Kr_bat.jpg The Bat! 4.0.14.5 Windows 2000 5.0 build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current beta is 4.0.14.4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Expried certificates (was: 2nd request for help can't email from the bat.)
Guten Tag Marek Mikus, am Sonntag, 24. Februar 2008 um 12:49 schrieben Sie: once developers accept such opinion, nobody will use correct certs then, everybody (including You) will confirm warning window instead changing certificate, because it is easier. I worked for a middle-range ISP for over 5 years, i know about getting and renewing certificates and about installing them on the servers. You probably have to decide yourself, if you want to make a eMail Programm for Users, or for yourself. But the Users pay your bill - can you give yourself the Money needed for living next month? I would do almost everything, after my customer signs me that he takes the risk after a comprehensible instruction. I do warn them and explain the issue, but i do not treat them like foolish childs. and i never place them under disability! -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen Jens Franik mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Picture of me? X-Rogue http://www.de2all.de/Kr_bat.jpg The Bat! 4.0.14.5 Windows 2000 5.0 build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current beta is 4.0.14.4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Expried certificates
On Sunday, February 24, 2008, 4:27:11 PM, Thomas Fernandez wrote: Right now, the only way to read my mail--in the scenario mentioned, which is not unusual--is to use another one of a myriad of email clients, most of them free. maybe we can call that the ultimate work around! -- Dwight A. Corrin 316.303.9385 phone ahead to fax dcorrin at fastmail.fm photo galleries at http://dcorrin.smugmug.com Using IMAP with The Bat! 4.0.14.5 on Windows Vista version 6,0 () Current beta is 4.0.14.4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Associations still do not work under Vista
Dear Marek, @25-Feb-2008, 00:03 +0100 (24-Feb 23:03 here) Marek Mikus [MM] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: MM I have reopened https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6749, I can not MM confirm and another user from forum tested latest build and can not MM confirm it. MM Anybody can check it yet? It's a tough one to check completely until the next MSI build is out, since that is responsible for the primary associations and client registry settings. I used the Associate now options and they no longer break the manually corrected registry data for the TB email client in the latest builds. But the original reports from Charles were about the Installer and not simply the file associations. -- Cheers -- //.arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator and fellow end user TB! v4.0.14.5 on Windows Vista 6.0.6000 ' pgpiUmmEi5iqL.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 4.0.14.4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Associations still do not work under Vista
On Sunday, February 24, 2008, 5:03:54 PM, Marek Mikus wrote: I have reopened https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6749, I can not confirm and another user from forum tested latest build and can not confirm it. Anybody can check it yet? I was again unable to install TB! as default email client using the process provided in the applications tab in options. The bat does not appear as an option in the Vista list for making assignments. -- Dwight A. Corrin 316.303.9385 phone ahead to fax dcorrin at fastmail.fm photo galleries at http://dcorrin.smugmug.com Using IMAP with The Bat! 4.0.14.5 on Windows Vista version 6,0 () Current beta is 4.0.14.4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Duplicated The Bat! in Taskbar under Vista
Hello all, Monday, February 25, 2008, Marek Mikus wrote: Hello, user reported me, sometimes it has TB duplicated in Taskbar, anybody can confirm? User has Windows Vista build 6000 and 4.0.14.3. as user told me, left one is not active, so nothing happens when user click to it. -- Bye Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 4.0.14.5 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 with MyMacros,XMP,AnotherMacros, NOD32 Antivirus plugin and AntispamSniper v 2.7.1.7 Notebook Toshiba, Core2 Duo 1.83 GHz, 1 GB RAM Current beta is 4.0.14.4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Expried certificates
Hello Volker, Sunday, February 24, 2008, 5:38:22 PM, you wrote: VA [Reply to: »Jens Franik« · 2008-02-24 · 23:28 h (CET)] VA Hello, Jens! Are you trying to save the internet by disallowing this in TB!? I thought this right the moment now. I would support a urgly and red Error-Message with a Confirmation Dialog to User, becaue it is security relevant, but i would want it to allow this for some days/weeks/months/forever (with a second confirmation). SNIP VA Seriously, that would be a good option. VA Cheers! VA VA I think that the following has to be taken into consideration. 1) The Bat can not stop working with out clear warning. (most users will not read a log) 2) If every other MTA will throw up a warning and a possible bypass The Bat needs to do so as well 3) If The Bat stops working for this type of error and another MTA works. It will be conceived as a bug in the Bat, and so The other MTA will be used and the Bat will be disregarded and will be considered a poor product. 4) Their will be cases where a user or user can not easily get to another MTA or understand the problem and will be irritated by the program, to them simply not working IE: on a ship 5) Sysops take vacations as well. So there for the user can not get mail? Unacceptable. Who gets to file the BUG report? -- Best regards, dangermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current beta is 4.0.14.4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Associations still do not work under Vista
Hello Marck, Sunday, February 24, 2008, 5:38:40 PM, you wrote: MM I have reopened https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6749, I can not MDP It's a tough one to check completely until the next MSI build is out, MDP since that is responsible for the primary associations and client MDP registry settings. MDP I used the Associate now options and they no longer break the MDP manually corrected registry data for the TB email client in the MDP latest builds. But the original reports from Charles were about the MDP Installer and not simply the file associations. The Associate now option appears to work hear. Also, the check for association upon startup appears to work as well. Although it could be because we have used the registry patch. Until the nest MSI comes out, I would leave the issue open. -- Best regards, Charles mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ The Bat! E-Mail System version 4.0.14.4 on Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6000 AntispamSniper for the Bat! 2.7.1.7 Current beta is 4.0.14.4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Expried certificates
Hello Volker, [snip] 3) If The Bat stops working for this type of error and another MTA works. It will be conceived as a bug in the Bat, and so The other MTA will be used and the Bat will be disregarded and will be considered a poor product. 4) Their will be cases where a user or user can not easily get to another MTA or understand the problem and will be irritated by the program, to them simply not working IE: on a ship [snip Who gets to file the BUG report? SUPPORTED! -- Rick Republicans - OUT! v4.0.14.5 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.14.4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Mass mailing - Newsletter
Hello Eddie, And thank for the mail! I learnt some tricks from it! Well that's what this ML is for (or the OT or UDL). Look also at the posting of Marek mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]. He mentioned a few items I forgot. I saved that mail too :) -- Vili The Bat 4.0.14.1 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Szervizcsomag 2 Current beta is 4.0.14.4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Associations still do not work under Vista
Hello Charles, CH be because we have used the registry patch. Until the nest MSI comes Now, if only TB had a grammar checker! :)) ^^^ Grammar? She's in the kitchen making cookies ... :D -- Rick Republican Priorities: ME first, party second, country - last v4.0.14.5 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.0.14.4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Slow Mail Processing
Hello Jens, I can connect to your computer thru TeamViewer (www.teamviewer.com, you just have to install the client module, ShowMyPC.de is availiable in English and needs no installation at all - and is using VNC over SSH, works through NAT and (SSH open) Firewalls. Mine is bigger :) TeamViewer does not need any unusual open port, so any user can use it. That is the good point in it. It can go thru corporate firewalls. -- Vili The Bat 4.0.14.1 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Szervizcsomag 2 Current beta is 4.0.14.4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Duplicated The Bat! in Taskbar under Vista
Hello Marek, user reported me, sometimes it has TB duplicated in Taskbar, anybody can confirm? User has Windows Vista build 6000 and 4.0.14.3. as user told me, left one is not active, so nothing happens when user click to it. That icon belongs to the Connection centre... doesnt it? Isnt it a locked up connection centre? Connection centre has title Connection Centre, not The Bat! like main window. You are right. -- Vili The Bat 4.0.14.1 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Szervizcsomag 2 Current beta is 4.0.14.4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Duplicated The Bat! in Taskbar under Vista
Hello all, Monday, February 25, 2008, Kertész Vilmos wrote: user reported me, sometimes it has TB duplicated in Taskbar, anybody can confirm? User has Windows Vista build 6000 and 4.0.14.3. as user told me, left one is not active, so nothing happens when user click to it. That icon belongs to the Connection centre... doesnt it? Isnt it a locked up connection centre? Connection centre has title Connection Centre, not The Bat! like main window. -- Bye Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 4.0.14.5 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 with MyMacros,XMP,AnotherMacros, NOD32 Antivirus plugin and AntispamSniper v 2.7.1.7 Notebook Toshiba, Core2 Duo 1.83 GHz, 1 GB RAM Current beta is 4.0.14.4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Duplicated The Bat! in Taskbar under Vista
Hello Marek, user reported me, sometimes it has TB duplicated in Taskbar, anybody can confirm? User has Windows Vista build 6000 and 4.0.14.3. as user told me, left one is not active, so nothing happens when user click to it. That icon belongs to the Connection centre... doesnt it? Isnt it a locked up connection centre? -- Vili The Bat 4.0.14.1 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Szervizcsomag 2 Current beta is 4.0.14.4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Associations still do not work under Vista
Hello Charles, CH be because we have used the registry patch. Until the nest MSI comes Now, if only TB had a grammar checker! :)) ^^^ -- Best regards, Charles mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ The Bat! E-Mail System version 4.0.14.4 on Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6000 AntispamSniper for the Bat! 2.7.1.7 Current beta is 4.0.14.4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Duplicated The Bat! in Taskbar under Vista
Marek, On 25-02-2008 00:09, you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: user reported me, sometimes it has TB duplicated in Taskbar, anybody can confirm? User has Windows Vista build 6000 and 4.0.14.3. I can confirm. (I do not have minimise to tray) -- greeting Best regards /greeting author Peter Fjelsten /author thebat version 4.0.14 Pro /thebat versionextras MyGate, AVG /extras env. 2 POP3, 14 IMAP (Courier) 1 IMAP (Exchange 6.5), 200K+ msgs. /env. os Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 /os Current beta is 4.0.14.4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Duplicated The Bat! in Taskbar under Vista
Hello Peter, Monday, February 25, 2008, 1:30:04 AM, you wrote: user reported me, sometimes it has TB duplicated in Taskbar, anybody can confirm? User has Windows Vista build 6000 and 4.0.14.3. PF I can confirm. PF (I do not have minimise to tray) I can confirm as well, although it doesn't always occur. I do have minimize to on. -- Best regards, Charles mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ The Bat! E-Mail System version 4.0.14.5 on Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6000 AntispamSniper for the Bat! 2.7.1.7 Current beta is 4.0.14.4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Closing while still downloading
Hello Tbbeta, I just noticed something in the version that doesn't seem right. If you abort the downloading of messages and answer yes to wait for the currently incoming message to be completed, and then try to close TB. TB closes without waiting for the message to finish. Prior versions would pop up a message asking if you would like to close gracefully after a set amount of time, later, or cancel. Can anyone else confirm this? -- Best regards, Charles mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ The Bat! E-Mail System version 4.0.14.5 on Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6000 AntispamSniper for the Bat! 2.7.1.7 Current beta is 4.0.14.4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Duplicated The Bat! in Taskbar under Vista
Hi Marek, user reported me, sometimes it has TB duplicated in Taskbar, anybody can confirm? User has Windows Vista build 6000 and 4.0.14.3. this behavior seem similar to the following bug entry, perhaps the same problem? https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6761 -- Best whishes Miroslav BAT-MAIL.DE.VU - http://bat-mail.de.vu Current beta is 4.0.14.4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Associations still do not work under Vista
Hi Dwight, I was again unable to install TB! as default email client using the process provided in the applications tab in options. The bat does not appear as an option in the Vista list for making assignments. same here, confirmed as not fixed. -- Best whishes Miroslav BAT-MAIL.DE.VU - http://bat-mail.de.vu Current beta is 4.0.14.4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
