Associations under Vista with 4.0.14 and 4.0.14.9 still do not work

[Marek Mikus]

Hello,
I have installed 4.0.14, then updated thebat.exe to 4.0.14.9 and started
program under Vista.

Still nothing has changed, program displays warning about not possible to
associate files and protocols and when I open Preferences and hit
Advanced, The Bat! is not listed in "Set your defaults" dialog.

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Re[2]: Threading issue

[Paul Van Noord]

2/28/2008  6:55 PM

Hi Dwight,

On 2/28/2008 Dwight Corrin wrote:

DC> If integrity is so important, why are we allowed to separate
DC> attachments from the rest of the message, or to delete an attachment?

Your answer is in the word "attachment". It is not a part of the
message and bears no identity of the message. They are as different as
apples and cucumbers.

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Re: 4.0.14.8: Messages and folders "remain" assigned to a Colour Group even after deleting it

[MAU]

Hello Stefan,

> Now, imagine for a second how it should work in environments where
> .TBB files are share and nobody knows about sets of colour groups on
> other machines, where people just agreed to use same names for some
> groups.

That's certainly an scenario I had not considered.

> Another thingy - restore process. I've restored just folders without
> global settings. Later, I've either restored colour groups or defined
> some of them (oftenly used).

Doing partial restores is always risky. Anyway, I can't comment because
even though I do a backup every night I have never used TB's
backup/restore facility. Also, because I have no idea where and how the
colour group 'attribute' of a message is saved.

> And another thing - it won't be very practical to go through all your
> message base and set all messages' CG to "NONE" when you delete a
> group. Especially, when it's done by mistake.

Don't you do that for the CG folder tabs?

>  Especially, when it's done by mistake.

Options/Preferences/Other Options/Confirmations. Is there perhaps a tick
box missing there? ;-)

And last but not least, when you delete Folder View Mode X, what happens
to the folders that had that View Mode selected? Bingo! You got it. They
are set to . :-)

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Re: 4.0.14.7: 'Free caret positioning' not so free.

[MAU]

Hello Stefan,

M>> being mouse oriented as I am I must admit I had not tried navigation
M>> keys. However, if it works with nav keys (which is equivalent to hitting
M>>  at least in the number of keystrokes needed, I don't see why it
M>> shouldn't work with mouse
>
> I don't see either, just added my $0.02 :-)

Come on, don't be a scrooge. $0.02 is not even a tenth of the price of 
a beer ;)

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Re: Threading issue

[MAU]

Hello Dwight,

>> This, to me, has the advantage that full integrity of received
>> message is maintained, including all the headers.
>
> What is with this obsession with "the full integrity of received
> message?" Maybe that is the least important aspect of the messages
> someone wants to edit.

Yes, maybe.

> If integrity is so important, why are we allowed to separate
> attachments from the rest of the message, or to delete an attachment?

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/attachment

,- [  ]
| a. A supplementary part; an accessory: /bought a vacuum cleaner with
| several attachments/. See Synonyms at _appendage_.
| 
| b. A supplementary document that is attached to a primary document:
| /stapled two attachments to the memorandum/.
`-

Seems to me that 'supplementary' is the key. 

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Re: 4.0.14.8: Messages and folders "remain" assigned to a Colour Group even after deleting it

[MAU]

Hello Jens,

>> Confirmations?
>
> Yes, it's a bug, added a note.

Thanks :)


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Re: Threading issue

[Rick Grunwald]

> On Tuesday, February 26, 2008, 8:01:32 PM, MAU wrote:

>> This, to me, has the advantage that full integrity of received
>> message is maintained, including all the headers.

> What is with this obsession with "the full integrity of received
> message?" Maybe that is the least important aspect of the messages
> someone wants to edit.

> If integrity is so important, why are we allowed to separate
> attachments from the rest of the message, or to delete an attachment?

When such passionate arguments are in process you aren't supposed
to make so much sense   :))

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Re: Threading issue

[Dwight Corrin]

On Tuesday, February 26, 2008, 8:01:32 PM, MAU wrote:

> This, to me, has the advantage that full integrity of received
> message is maintained, including all the headers.

What is with this obsession with "the full integrity of received
message?" Maybe that is the least important aspect of the messages
someone wants to edit.

If integrity is so important, why are we allowed to separate
attachments from the rest of the message, or to delete an attachment?

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Re: 4.0.14.9

[Richard Newman]

Hello Maxim,

Thursday, February 28, 2008, 4:33:17 PM, you wrote:
MM> The Bat! 4.0.14.9 is available at
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Re: 4.0.14.8: Messages and folders "remain" assigned to a Colour Group even after deleting it

[Stefan Tanurkov]

Hello Jens,

JF> You are kidding? Aren't you? You are!!!

I didn't drink any alcohol for five days now. I mean, I deadly
serious.

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Re: 4.0.14.8: Messages and folders "remain" assigned to a Colour Group even after deleting it

[Stefan Tanurkov]

Hello MAU,


M> Sorry, but in my opinion 'poor' D then.

No problemo.

Now, imagine for a second how it should work in environments where
.TBB files are share and nobody knows about sets of colour groups on
other machines, where people just agreed to use same names for some
groups.

Another thingy - restore process. I've restored just folders without
global settings. Later, I've either restored colour groups or defined
some of them (oftenly used).

And another thing - it won't be very practical to go through all your
message base and set all messages' CG to "NONE" when you delete a
group. Especially, when it's done by mistake.


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folder view mode context menu duplicating items

[Graham]

 
 Hello,
   
   
Right clicking on a folder and then Folder View mode shows a list but
it is repeated twice

If you then select Manage View modes from the list the new window also
has a list with duplicated items.
 

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Re: 4.0.14.8: Messages and folders "remain" assigned to a Colour Group even after deleting it

[Jens Franik]

Guten Tag Stefan Tanurkov,

am Donnerstag, 28. Februar 2008 um 22:19 schrieben Sie:

M>> - The folder and message will show no CG but not 'None' as it could be
M>>   as it could be expected.

> WAD.

You are kidding? Aren't you? You are!!!

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Re: 4.0.14.8: Messages and folders "remain" assigned to a Colour Group even after deleting it

[Jens Franik]

Guten Tag MAU,

am Donnerstag, 28. Februar 2008 um 21:46 schrieben Sie:

> If you delete a Colour Group that is currently assigned to some
> messages or folders, these messages will immediately 'loose' its colour
> but will NOT be assigned CG 'None'.

> Confirmations?

Yes, it's a bug, added a note.

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Re: 4.0.14.8: Messages and folders "remain" assigned to a Colour Group even after deleting it

[MAU]

Hello Stefan,

M>> - The folder and message will show no CG but not 'None' as it could be
M>>   as it could be expected.
>
> WAD.

Sorry, but in my opinion 'poor' D then.

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4.0.14.9

[Maxim Masiutin]

The Bat! 4.0.14.9 is available at
http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb40149.rar

What's new in 4.0.14.9 since 4.0.14.8:
[-] In S/MIME internal implementation, The Bat! didn't support some certificate 
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Re: Changing Subject (has been:4.0.14.8)

[Jens Franik]

Guten Tag Rick Grunwald,

am Donnerstag, 28. Februar 2008 um 21:02 schrieben Sie:

> Don't you wish you could change the subject to something that
> reflected the content of the message? :))
> Here's the link to support it lol
> https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6700

Boah :-) :-) That's real marketing, you have the job!

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Re: 4.0.14.7: 'Free caret positioning' not so free.

[Stefan Tanurkov]

Hello MAU,

M> being mouse oriented as I am I must admit I had not tried navigation
M> keys. However, if it works with nav keys (which is equivalent to hitting
M>  at least in the number of keystrokes needed, I don't see why it
M> shouldn't work with mouse

I don't see either, just added my $0.02 :-)

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Re: 4.0.14.7: 'Free caret positioning' not so free.

[MAU]

Hello Stefan,

M>> With previous editor (i.e. in 3.99.29) I could position the cursor
M>> anywhere, including any number of lines below the last line already
M>> written (whether by a template or myself.)
>
> Actually, this is only true for positioning using the mouse. If you
> move caret with navigation keys, the caret will be moved beyond the
> EOF.

being mouse oriented as I am I must admit I had not tried navigation
keys. However, if it works with nav keys (which is equivalent to hitting
 at least in the number of keystrokes needed, I don't see why it
shouldn't work with mouse

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Re: 4.0.14.8: Messages and folders "remain" assigned to a Colour Group even after deleting it

[Stefan Tanurkov]

Hello MAU,

M> - The folder and message will show no CG but not 'None' as it could be
M>   as it could be expected.

WAD.


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Re: 4.0.14.7: 'Free caret positioning' not so free.

[Stefan Tanurkov]

Hello MAU,

M> With previous editor (i.e. in 3.99.29) I could position the cursor
M> anywhere, including any number of lines *below* the last line already
M> written (whether by a template or myself.)

Actually, this is only true for positioning using the mouse. If you
move caret with navigation keys, the caret will be moved beyond the
EOF.


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Re: 4.0.14.8: Messages and folders "remain" assigned to a Colour Group even after deleting it

[MAU]

Hello MAU,

> Confirmations? If so, https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6877

I have just added this note:

As I have further verified, the name can be different. The problem
appears if the Handle is the same that was used in the previously
deleted group.

The fact that when the CG is deleted does NOT force messages/folders to
revert to None (or ) can have an inpact in Sorting Office
and/or VF filters. Try it.

- Create a new folder with just one message.
- Create a new CG.
- Assign the message to the new CG.
- Create a VF looking at that folder and filtering for  CG.
- No message will be displayed in VF, which is correct.
- Now delete CG.
- Verify the colour of the message reverts to default colour.
- Now look in VF, the message still doesn't show there, or does it? 

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Re: 4.0.14.8

[Stefan Tanurkov]

Hello Marek,

MM> partially fixed, because when I select messages and drag them to editor in
MM> taskbar, editor window is not focused. Only way is to use Alt+tab.

It has always been so, so it's not a "partial" fix, it's a normal fix.
This way of dragging-and-dropping will be implemented when system-wide
drag-and-drop of messages and other items is implemented (planned).
For now, it works only for attachments.


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4.0.14.8: Messages and folders "remain" assigned to a Colour Group even after deleting it

[MAU]

Hello all,

I discovered this just by chance while testing Colour Groups folder
tabs.

If you delete a Colour Group that is currently assigned to some
messages or folders, these messages will immediately 'loose' its colour
but will NOT be assigned CG 'None'.

So, if you later happen to create, even after a TB restart, a new
Colour Group with the same name... voila! you will have a number of
messages and/or folders with that 'new' CG assigned.

Steps to reproduce:
- Create new CG named MAU (with Unique ID: MAU) with whatever colour

- Assign it to one folder and one message

- Now delete the CG.

- The folder and message will show no CG but not 'None' as it could be
  as it could be expected.

- Restart TB

- Now create new CG named MAU (with Unique ID: MAU) but with a different
colour.

- Check the folder and message used above. What colour are they now? :)  

Confirmations? If so, https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6877

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Folder tabs for new Colour Groups (was: Re: 4.0.14.8)

[MAU]

Hello Robert,

>> Yes, but the problem now is that new Colour groups created do NOT 
>> appear in 'Configure Folder Sets'  and, therefore, a tab cannot be 
>> created for them..
>
>> Any confirmation?
>
> Confirmed. I created a new CG and assigned it to a folder. The CG is 
> not visible in the Configure Tab dialog.

https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6876


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Change the subject on replies (was Re: 4.0.14.8)

[MAU]

Hello Rick,

> Don't you wish you could change the subject to something that
> reflected the content of the message? :))
> Here's the link to support it lol
> https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6700

No, I don't wish to change the subject on *received* messages.

I can change it when replying and it should be done some times. Don't 
you think? ;)


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Re: 4.0.14.8

[Rick Grunwald]

> Hello MAU,

>>> [-] (#0006595) Deleted Colour groups were kept in Folder Sets
>>
>> Also fixed.

> Yes, but the problem now is that new Colour groups created do NOT 
> appear in 'Configure Folder Sets'  and, therefore, a tab cannot be 
> created for them..

> Any confirmation?

Don't you wish you could change the subject to something that
reflected the content of the message? :))
Here's the link to support it lol
https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6700


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If Server not reachable - no Error Message

[Jens Franik]

Guten Tag   The Bat! Beta,

i fetch from K9 on localhost:

didn't start it, so it was not availiable.

After pressing ALT-F2 Connection Manager came and went away without a
message, that a Error occured.

only the Logfiles say: Server could not be reached.

Nice Feature, nobody knows what is happening, keep it secret!

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Folder tabs for new Colour Groups (was: Re: 4.0.14.8)

[MAU]

Hello Marek,

> This is a different issue, create a new BT entry please.

https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6876

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Re: 4.0.14.8

[Jens Franik]

Guten Tag Maxim Masiutin,

am Donnerstag, 28. Februar 2008 um 16:55 schrieben Sie:

> The Bat! 4.0.14.8 is available

up + running

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Re: 4.0.14.8

[Robert van der Hulst]

Hi Marek,
On Thu, 28 Feb 2008, at 20:31:04 [GMT +0100] (which was 20:31 where I live) 
you wrote about: '4.0.14.8'

> confirm, restart is needed to have newly created CG in Configuration dialog.

> This is a different issue, create a new BT entry please.


Yes, but a restart takes ages 
( ) on my system


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Re: 4.0.14.8

[Robert van der Hulst]

Hi MAU,
On Thu, 28 Feb 2008, at 19:20:59 [GMT +0100] (which was 19:20 where I live) 
you wrote about: '4.0.14.8'

> Yes, but the problem now is that new Colour groups created do NOT 
> appear in 'Configure Folder Sets'  and, therefore, a tab cannot be 
> created for them..

> Any confirmation?

Confirmed. I created a new CG and assigned it to a folder. The CG is 
not visible in the Configure Tab dialog.

I'd rather see the 'deleted' colour groups like we did in the last 
build..


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Re: 4.0.14.8

[Marek Mikus]

Hello all,
Thursday, February 28, 2008, MAU wrote:

>> Yes, but the problem now is that new Colour groups created do NOT
>> appear in 'Configure Folder Sets'  and, therefore, a tab cannot be 
>> created for them..

> Actually, no folder tab can now be created for either new or existent 
> CGs. Tabs that had been created prior to this version seem to still 
> work though.

> I was going to set up BT report to 'Verify fail' but I can't even add a 
> note to it.

confirm, restart is needed to have newly created CG in Configuration dialog.

This is a different issue, create a new BT entry please.

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Re: 4.0.14.8

[MAU]

Hello MAU,

>>> [-] (#0006595) Deleted Colour groups were kept in Folder Sets
>>
>> Also fixed.
>
> Yes, but the problem now is that new Colour groups created do NOT 
> appear in 'Configure Folder Sets'  and, therefore, a tab cannot be 
> created for them..

Actually, no folder tab can now be created for either new or existent 
CGs. Tabs that had been created prior to this version seem to still 
work though.

I was going to set up BT report to 'Verify fail' but I can't even add a 
note to it.

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Re: 4.0.14.8

[Jay Walker]

On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 6:11 PM, Marek Mikus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > [-] (#0006860) Messages could not be dragged from messages list to Editor 
> > window
>
> partially fixed, because when I select messages and drag them to editor in
> taskbar, editor window is not focused. Only way is to use Alt+tab.

Agreed. At best, it is only partially fixed because dragging messages
to the Editor in the Windows taskbar simply does not work. However,
using alt+tab is a workaround that I did not try before, and
fortunately that does work well enough that I can limp along with 4.x
rather than revert to 3.99. :-)

I must say, however, that I am still a bit wary of the way in which
the Microeditor works. Often, after reformatting a paragraph, the view
remains somewhere off to the right (rather than on the left with all
of the text showing). Due to this quirk and others like the now fixed
copy-and-paste issue that I reported, I also wonder whether
reformatting of paragraphs can cause a loss of characters (although
that could also be just my hasty typing).

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Re: 4.0.14.7: 'Paste as Quotation' stopping at cut mark

[MAU]

Hello Rick,

> Confirmed

Thanks. https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6874

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Re: 4.0.14.7: 'Free caret positioning' not so free.

[MAU]

Hello Rick,

M>>> Any confirmations/agreements?
>
>> Behavior is confirmed as you describe.
>
> Confirmation and support

https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6873

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Where is my Color Group tab?

[MAU]

Hello all,

Three weeks ago I opened this BT report:

No folder tab is created for "empty" Colour Groups 
https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6736

Marek seems to think that it is more a wish than an actual bug and I 
have just added this note:

,- [ BT Note 0021085 ]
| No Marek, it is a bug or, at least, a poor or not thoroughly thought
| about design.
| 
| 1.- If it is an existing C.G. I may want to create the tab to see if I
| have any messages assigned to that group and where. But if the tab is
| not created, what do I have to assume? A bug in TB or that there are no
| messages assigned to that group? But, what may add more confusion is
| that if I go back to 'Configure Folder Sets' the C.G. tick box is
| ticked. So, what the heck is happening?
| 
| 2.- I may be setting up my system and create one or more C.Gs and at the
| same time and want to set up folder tabs for them. Why can't I see them?
| 
| And, in both cases, if I now select several messages and assign them to
| one of these previously 'empty' C.Gs., will the tab appear now? No.
| 
| So, it is a bug or poor design. Whatever you like best :)
`-

Just in case you'd like to support.

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Re: 4.0.14.8

[MAU]

Hello MAU,

>> [-] (#0006595) Deleted Colour groups were kept in Folder Sets
>
> Also fixed.

Yes, but the problem now is that new Colour groups created do NOT 
appear in 'Configure Folder Sets'  and, therefore, a tab cannot be 
created for them..

Any confirmation?

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Re: 4.0.14.7: 'Paste as Quotation' stopping at cut mark

[Rick Grunwald]

> As I have just verified, the same problem and argument applies to 
> 'Reply quoting selected text' (F4). If I have selected a text that 
> includes a cut mark is because I want to quote it.

Confirmed

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Re: 4.0.14.8 and Spell Checker

[Henk M. de Bruijn]

On Thu, 28 Feb 2008, at 17:55:03 [GMT +0200] (which was 16:55 where I
live) Maxim Masiutin wrote:

> The Bat! 4.0.14.8 is available at
> http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb40148.rar

> What's new in 4.0.14.8 since 4.0.14.7:
> [-] In CryptoAPI, "Invalid signature" dialog could truncate long error 
> messages.
> [-] Some S/MIME certificates might cause AV when using Internal 
> Implementation.
> [-] (#0006860) Messages could not be dragged from messages list to Editor 
> window
> [-] (#0006595) Deleted Colour groups were kept in Folder Sets
> [-] (#0005998) It was not possible to use Reading Confirmation in mass mailing

Up and running.

In the Spell Checker menu under Languages I have choosen for Dutch and English 
(British). Under options I see three tabs: SSCE, CSAPI and Hunspell.
The Hunspell tab is still greyed out.
Under Dictionaries there are only SSCE and Hunspell Dictionaries.
When a word is (under)marked by the Spell Checker and I right click on
that word, a little menu pops up with:
Suggestions
Suggest more
Ignore
Add to dictionary
Dictionary to add to (I can choose for SSCE and Hunspell Dutch and 
English (British)
Options

But as soon as I place the file SSCE5532.DLL back into the The Bat! folder 
I loose my spelling in the way that misspelled words are no longer marked as 
misspelled.

Deleting the Registry keys for CSAPi does not have any influence on 
this.

Because Hunspell is working, it is not a real stopper for me, but I 
wonder what is happening.

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Re: 4.0.14.7: 'Free caret positioning' not so free.

[Rick Grunwald]

> Hello MAU,
>   A reminder of what MAU typed on:
>   Thursday, February 28, 2008 at 13:50:20 GMT +0100

M>> I don't know if this is a bug or WAD, but I really think the previous
M>> behaviour was much more convenient, at least for me, and something to be
M>> expected from a 'free caret positioning' (free cursor positioning)
M>> option.

M>> Any confirmations/agreements?

> Behavior is confirmed as you describe.

Confirmation and support

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Re: 4.0.14.7: 'Free caret positioning' not so free.

[Stuart Cuddy]

Hello MAU,
  A reminder of what MAU typed on:
  Thursday, February 28, 2008 at 13:50:20 GMT +0100

M> I don't know if this is a bug or WAD, but I really think the previous
M> behaviour was much more convenient, at least for me, and something to be
M> expected from a 'free caret positioning' (free cursor positioning)
M> option.

M> Any confirmations/agreements?

Behavior is confirmed as you describe.

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Re: 4.0.14.8

[MAU]

Hello Marek,

> thanks for fixing blue separator borders :-)

Yes, they are much better now :)

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Re: 4.0.14.8

[Marek Mikus]

Hello all,
Thursday, February 28, 2008, Maxim Masiutin wrote:

> What's new in 4.0.14.8 since 4.0.14.7:

up and running, thanks for fixing blue separator borders :-)

> [-] Some S/MIME certificates might cause AV when using Internal 
> Implementation.

fixed here.

> [-] (#0006860) Messages could not be dragged from messages list to Editor 
> window

partially fixed, because when I select messages and drag them to editor in
taskbar, editor window is not focused. Only way is to use Alt+tab.

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Re: 4.0.14.8

[MAU]

Hello Maxim,

> The Bat! 4.0.14.8 is available at
> http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb40148.rar

> [-] (#0006860) Messages could not be dragged from messages list to Editor 
> window

Confirm as fixed.

> [-] (#0006595) Deleted Colour groups were kept in Folder Sets

Also fixed.


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4.0.14.8

[Maxim Masiutin]

The Bat! 4.0.14.8 is available at
http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb40148.rar

What's new in 4.0.14.8 since 4.0.14.7:
[-] In CryptoAPI, "Invalid signature" dialog could truncate long error messages.
[-] Some S/MIME certificates might cause AV when using Internal Implementation.
[-] (#0006860) Messages could not be dragged from messages list to Editor window
[-] (#0006595) Deleted Colour groups were kept in Folder Sets
[-] (#0005998) It was not possible to use Reading Confirmation in mass mailing





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Re: 4.0.14.7: 'Paste as Quotation' stopping at cut mark

[MAU]

Hello MAU,


> I can understand that %Quotes macro stops at the cut mark, but I
> strongly believe a manual copy (to clipboard) and paste (quoted or not)
> should paste whatever was copied to the clipboard.

As I have just verified, the same problem and argument applies to 
'Reply quoting selected text' (F4). If I have selected a text that 
includes a cut mark is because I want to quote it.

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4.0.14.7: 'Paste as Quotation' stopping at cut mark

[MAU]

Hello all,

I'm not sure if this has been reported/discussed before, I could not 
find any BT report about it. Sorry if it has been already dealt with.

If I highlight and copy a text that includes the  
cut mark and then do a 'Paste as Quotation' (Shift+Alt+Ins), only the 
text up to the cut mark will be pasted. In 3.99.29 *all* copied text 
was/is pasted.

Again, I don't know if this is a bug or WAD, but I certainly prefer the 
/old way/. 

I can understand that %Quotes macro stops at the cut mark, but I
strongly believe a manual copy (to clipboard) and paste (quoted or not)
should paste whatever was copied to the clipboard.

Any agreements/confirmations?

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4.0.14.7: 'Free caret positioning' not so free.

[MAU]

Hello all,

With the advent of the new MicroEd the new 'Free caret positioning' 
option was introduced. This is not bad, I usually never complain about 
/optional/ configuration settings.

However, I expected free caret to behave exactly as it did before, when 
it was not optional, but unfortunately it doesn't.

With previous editor (i.e. in 3.99.29) I could position the cursor
anywhere, including any number of lines *below* the last line already
written (whether by a template or myself.). But with the new editor, if
I want to do the same, I have to position the cursor at the and of last
line and then hit  for the number of 'blank lines' that I want to
include below the last one already written.

I don't know if this is a bug or WAD, but I really think the previous
behaviour was much more convenient, at least for me, and something to be
expected from a 'free caret positioning' (free cursor positioning)
option.

Any confirmations/agreements?

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Re: Attachments can non be dragged from one editor to an other

[Jens Franik]

Guten Tag Marek Mikus,

am Donnerstag, 28. Februar 2008 um 09:15 schrieben Sie:

> yes, I have reported this some days ago, Stef already fixed this yesterday.

Ok, then we wait for the next Version

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Re: Attachments can non be dragged from one editor to an other

[Hendrik Oesterlin]

"Marek Mikus" wrote on 28/02/2008 at 19:15:08 +1100 
subject "Attachments can non be dragged from one editor to an other" :

> Hello all,
> Thursday, February 28, 2008, Hendrik Oesterlin wrote:

>> Attachments can non be dragged from one editor to an other.

> yes, I have reported this some days ago, Stef already fixed this yesterday.

Is it the https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6860 posted by Ivan
Bolhovitinov in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ?
The 6860 could indeed be related.

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Re: Attachments can non be dragged from one editor to an other

[Ivan Bolhovitinov]

Hello, Hendrik.

> Attachments can non be dragged from one editor to an other.
> In older versions this was possible and quite convenient.
> Confirmations?

https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6860
May be it's a simillar and solved...

May be we should wait .8 build ?


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Re: Attachments can non be dragged from one editor to an other

[Marek Mikus]

Hello all,
Thursday, February 28, 2008, Hendrik Oesterlin wrote:

> Attachments can non be dragged from one editor to an other.

> In older versions this was possible and quite convenient.

> Confirmations?

> Drag and drop is the main feature of the modern computer interface
> composed of several windows.

yes, I have reported this some days ago, Stef already fixed this yesterday.

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Attachments can non be dragged from one editor to an other

[Hendrik Oesterlin]

Hello List,

Attachments can non be dragged from one editor to an other.

In older versions this was possible and quite convenient.

Confirmations?

Drag and drop is the main feature of the modern computer interface
composed of several windows.

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