Re: User-unfriendliness
On Monday, September 27, 2010, 12:50:28 PM, Vili wrote: I totally agree with Thomas. TB is not user friendly when reporting errors, warnings. The error should be put into the face of the user, suggest him a solution and allow him to bypass this kind of certificate security issues if he wishes. I had customers who had the same error. Not fun to explain them that believe me, it is for your own good that you cant send emails. You have to remember that theBAT is always looking out for us. I see this issue as very similar to the refusal to enable inserting notes or other useful information into the body of messages in your data base, or doing things like removing '[SPAM]' from headers for some imagined reason of morality. -- Dwight A. Corrin 316.303.9385 phone ahead to fax dcorrin at fastmail.fm photo galleries at http://dcorrin.smugmug.com photo blog at http://dcorrin.aminus3.com http://photos.vfxy.com/photoblogs/5882 Using IMAP with The Bat! 4.2.36.2 on Windows Vista version 6,0 (Service Pack 2) Current beta is 4.2.33.9 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: User-unfriendliness
On Monday, September 27, 2010, 3:25:31 PM, Rick wrote: You have to remember that theBAT is always looking out for us. I see this issue as very similar to the refusal to enable inserting notes or other useful information into the body of messages in your data base, or doing things like removing '[SPAM]' from headers for some imagined reason of morality. I would like to see the ability to edit the subject line Here's the link to support it https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6700 I see that I already have 3 comments in there. Like you, I would urge others to support it as well. -- Dwight A. Corrin 316.303.9385 phone ahead to fax dcorrin at fastmail.fm photo galleries at http://dcorrin.smugmug.com photo blog at http://dcorrin.aminus3.com http://photos.vfxy.com/photoblogs/5882 Using IMAP with The Bat! 4.2.36.2 on Windows Vista version 6,0 (Service Pack 2) Current beta is 4.2.33.9 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: User-unfriendliness
On Monday, September 27, 2010, 7:04:13 PM, NetVicious wrote: What's the problem with It. I can export the mail and modify it and later import it to The Bat!. I have the same result. What's the diference if you can't see the difference, I'm not sure I could explain it. -- Dwight A. Corrin 316.303.9385 phone ahead to fax dcorrin at fastmail.fm photo galleries at http://dcorrin.smugmug.com photo blog at http://dcorrin.aminus3.com http://photos.vfxy.com/photoblogs/5882 Using IMAP with The Bat! 4.2.36.4 on Windows 7 version 6,1 () Current beta is 4.2.33.9 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! release deadline
On Wednesday, September 22, 2010, 10:28:51 AM, Maxim Masiutin wrote: OK with these AVs and bugs, you may start using the alpha version, but you may lose mail. do you mean some loss on downloading from POP server? Or if I set up installation which only checks IMAP, is there risk it will zap things on the server? -- Dwight A. Corrin 316.303.9385 phone ahead to fax dcorrin at fastmail.fm photo galleries at http://dcorrin.smugmug.com photo blog at http://dcorrin.aminus3.com http://photos.vfxy.com/photoblogs/5882 Using IMAP with The Bat! 4.2.36.2 on Windows Vista version 6,0 (Service Pack 2) Current beta is 4.2.33.9 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.2.36.4
On Saturday, September 18, 2010, 7:18:58 AM, Peter Hampf wrote: The Bat! v4.2.36.4 Professional Edition 21-Apr-2010 16 MB is offered for download. ?-} Couldn't tell you how long I've been running .4 -- Dwight A. Corrin 316.303.9385 phone ahead to fax dcorrin at fastmail.fm photo galleries at http://dcorrin.smugmug.com photo blog at http://dcorrin.aminus3.com http://photos.vfxy.com/photoblogs/5882 Using IMAP with The Bat! 4.2.36.4 on Windows 7 version 6,1 () Current beta is 4.2.33.9 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.2.36.4
On Saturday, September 18, 2010, 10:03:01 AM, Peter Hampf wrote: It's the fact that my TB is detecting a version from April in September that amazes me. computers are funny. you'd think they would be more predictable, but we all know they aren't. -- Dwight A. Corrin 316.303.9385 phone ahead to fax dcorrin at fastmail.fm photo galleries at http://dcorrin.smugmug.com photo blog at http://dcorrin.aminus3.com http://photos.vfxy.com/photoblogs/5882 Using IMAP with The Bat! 4.2.36.4 on Windows 7 version 6,1 () Current beta is 4.2.33.9 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: New versions of The Bat!
On Monday, July 26, 2010, 9:20:45 PM, Gene Kearns wrote: HOWEVER, tonight's experiences with Version 4 makes it clear that Backup and Restore just doesn't work. you are using an awfully old beta. couldn't more recent versions perhaps perform better? -- Dwight A. Corrin 316.303.9385 phone ahead to fax dcorrin at fastmail.fm photo galleries at http://dcorrin.smugmug.com photo blog at http://dcorrin.aminus3.com http://photos.vfxy.com/photoblogs/5882 Using IMAP with The Bat! 4.2.36.2 on Windows Vista version 6,0 (Service Pack 2) Current beta is 4.2.33.9 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Did I miss the funeral?
On Monday, June 14, 2010, 1:15:41 AM, Jay Walker wrote: Dwight, if that is your fetish, then perhaps you should join the FBI it's my bad typing and seeing what I intended what I typed on proofing. plez insert a NOT in the appropriate spot -- Dwight A. Corrin 316.303.9385 phone ahead to fax dcorrin at fastmail.fm photo galleries at http://dcorrin.smugmug.com photo blog at http://dcorrin.aminus3.com http://photos.vfxy.com/photoblogs/5882 Using IMAP with The Bat! 4.2.36.4 on Windows 7 version 6,1 () Current beta is 4.2.33.9 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: New versions of The Bat!
On Sunday, June 13, 2010, 6:54:33 PM, Franz Schoeler wrote: will The Bat! then start/boot again in tenths of seconds instead of 29 seconds as right now on this computer? I think they may charge extra to diagnose your computer problems. btw: Does anyone like programs that are practically loaned for a given time-window? not my favorite model, but not that uncommon in the current market. I've lived in rented houses often, and have many friends who lease cars. I have lots of old versions of software, on 5 1/4 floppies, for example, which are pretty useless even though I still own them. -- Dwight A. Corrin 316.303.9385 phone ahead to fax dcorrin at fastmail.fm photo galleries at http://dcorrin.smugmug.com photo blog at http://dcorrin.aminus3.com http://photos.vfxy.com/photoblogs/5882 Using IMAP with The Bat! 4.2.36.4 on Windows 7 version 6,1 () Current beta is 4.2.33.9 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Did I miss the funeral?
On Sunday, June 13, 2010, 8:30:08 AM, Jay Walker wrote: Okay, but so what? All I said is that Outlook displays the HTML that I receive much better than TB. Since you don't receive my email, I think that I am a better authority on that subject than you are. :) I have interest in seeing anyone else's email, or any priority in having my mail look like it came thru Outlook. I don't think Feli needs to do any instructions to anyone on your behalf. I don't care how Orbitz tickets look on anyone's screen, although PDF certainly sounds like a better solution than some spec that says everyone has to look like Outlook, and the only thinga I've found MS to produce as a paradigm is headaches. -- Dwight A. Corrin 316.303.9385 phone ahead to fax dcorrin at fastmail.fm photo galleries at http://dcorrin.smugmug.com photo blog at http://dcorrin.aminus3.com http://photos.vfxy.com/photoblogs/5882 Using IMAP with The Bat! 4.2.36.4 on Windows 7 version 6,1 () Current beta is 4.2.33.9 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Editing the subject line
On Thursday, June 10, 2010, 12:21:16 PM, Thomas Fernandez wrote: I'm not sure I said anything about IMAP (I don't use it anyway), but TBBETA seems to be slow because of the rewrite. I'm sure you did not mention IMAP. But you mentioned it was a good time to address this, and I assumed you were suggesting that while they are apparently doing a complete reworking of the code, it would be an especially good time to address this long overdue correction. Current beta is 4.2.33.9 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Did I miss the funeral?
On Friday, June 11, 2010, 4:47:46 AM, Vili wrote: A normal HTML viewer. I dont want to send examples. Ritlabs should install an Outlook and go over like a 1000 HTML mails. When TB matches up to Outlook for all of them, then the job done. Not until that. seems like an absurd suggestion and waste of time. If one sees html's which don't match (I haven't in some time) they should send them along (especially if they think looking like outlook is important). Meanwhile, TB programmers should keep concentrating on getting the next version ready for beta testing. -- Dwight A. Corrin 316.303.9385 phone ahead to fax dcorrin at fastmail.fm photo galleries at http://dcorrin.smugmug.com photo blog at http://dcorrin.aminus3.com http://photos.vfxy.com/photoblogs/5882 Using IMAP with The Bat! 4.2.36.4 on Windows 7 version 6,1 () Current beta is 4.2.33.9 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Did I miss the funeral?
On Saturday, June 12, 2010, 2:47:34 PM, Rick wrote: Hardly absurd. They need to fix the way the bat works with HTML They are working on IMAP right now of course but at some point this should be dealt with I'm not meaning improving IMAP is absurd. I saying the suggestion that they should expend someone's time going line by line or table by table on a thousand messages, because complaining users shouldn't be bothered with calling their attention to any pages which are problematic is absurd. -- Dwight A. Corrin 316.303.9385 phone ahead to fax dcorrin at fastmail.fm photo galleries at http://dcorrin.smugmug.com photo blog at http://dcorrin.aminus3.com http://photos.vfxy.com/photoblogs/5882 Using IMAP with The Bat! 4.2.36.4 on Windows 7 version 6,1 () Current beta is 4.2.33.9 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Did I miss the funeral?
On Saturday, June 12, 2010, 3:59:53 PM, Rick wrote: The way I understood is that they should install Outlook then make the bat render to that as a standard. (I'm wincing as I say Outlook and standard in the same sentence. :) That isn't what I understood the suggestion to be, but is seems a bad idea as well. -- Dwight A. Corrin 316.303.9385 phone ahead to fax dcorrin at fastmail.fm photo galleries at http://dcorrin.smugmug.com photo blog at http://dcorrin.aminus3.com http://photos.vfxy.com/photoblogs/5882 Using IMAP with The Bat! 4.2.36.2 on Windows Vista version 6,0 (Service Pack 2) Current beta is 4.2.33.9 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Editing the subject line
On Wednesday, June 9, 2010, 11:34:18 AM, Thomas Fernandez wrote: Good idea to bring this up again. R I would like to see the ability to edit the subject line in received emails R Here's the link to support it R https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6700 R Thanks Added a bugnote. Hello Thomas, I see we meet again on this topic. You are right that the IMAP rewrite is a very good time to finally correct this longtime omission. Note added by me as well. -- Dwight A. Corrin 316.303.9385 phone ahead to fax dcorrin at fastmail.fm photo galleries at http://dcorrin.smugmug.com photo blog at http://dcorrin.aminus3.com http://photos.vfxy.com/photoblogs/5882 Using IMAP with The Bat! 4.2.36.4 on Windows 7 version 6,1 () Current beta is 4.2.33.9 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.2.36.1 and Gmail IMAP
On Monday, April 19, 2010, 2:30:46 PM, Raymund Tump wrote: Seems that 4.2.36.1's IMAP is broken (again). concur. see my message mid:814285317.20100416144...@fastmail.fm and the thread in which it is contained. 4.2.33.9 works adequately for day to day use. -- Dwight A. Corrin 316.303.9385 phone ahead to fax dcorrin at fastmail.fm photo galleries at http://dcorrin.smugmug.com photo blog at http://dcorrin.aminus3.com http://photos.vfxy.com/photoblogs/5882 Using IMAP with The Bat! 4.2.33.9 on Windows 7 version 6,1 () Current beta is 4.2.33.9 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: SOCKS in 4.2.33
On Friday, April 16, 2010, 12:11:08 PM, Maxim Masiutin wrote: SOCKS in 4.2.33 didn't work, we have made an updated version, please test it and let me know. www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_pro_4-2-36.msi after successful install, content of messages is not downloading at my fastmail imap account. had to go back to last version of of Wednesday. -- Dwight A. Corrin 316.303.9385 phone ahead to fax dcorrin at fastmail.fm photo galleries at http://dcorrin.smugmug.com photo blog at http://dcorrin.aminus3.com http://photos.vfxy.com/photoblogs/5882 Using IMAP with The Bat! 4.2.36.1 on Windows Vista version 6,0 (Service Pack 2) Current beta is 4.2.33.9 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.2.33.9 MSIs
On Tuesday, April 6, 2010, 12:47:06 PM, Maxim Masiutin wrote: . Please download the correct files again from the same URL(s): u and r here -- Dwight A. Corrin 316.303.9385 phone ahead to fax dcorrin at fastmail.fm photo galleries at http://dcorrin.smugmug.com photo blog at http://dcorrin.aminus3.com http://photos.vfxy.com/photoblogs/5882 Using IMAP with The Bat! 4.2.33.9 on Windows 7 version 6,1 () Current beta is 4.2.33.9 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: When are we going to get a fix for the never ending attempts to download?
On Saturday, March 27, 2010, 7:50:41 PM, Thomas Fernandez wrote: No conspiracy theory. It's just that we, over here on the beta list, want something to play with. actually, lots of us want the IMAP to work on. Not to start a new beta cycle on an old cycle which is over. -- Dwight A. Corrin 316.303.9385 phone ahead to fax dcorrin at fastmail.fm photo galleries at http://dcorrin.smugmug.com photo blog at http://dcorrin.aminus3.com http://photos.vfxy.com/photoblogs/5882 Using IMAP with The Bat! 4.2.35 on Windows 7 version 6,1 () Current beta is 4.2.35 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Is the list still working?
On Monday, March 22, 2010, 9:23:55 AM, Marck Pearlstone wrote: Had a report that the list was not responding. This is a probe message to see if that's the case... just sitting back waiting for the IMAP beta testing to begin. -- Dwight A. Corrin 316.303.9385 phone ahead to fax dcorrin at fastmail.fm photo galleries at http://dcorrin.smugmug.com photo blog at http://dcorrin.aminus3.com http://photos.vfxy.com/photoblogs/5882 Using IMAP with The Bat! 4.2.35 on Windows Vista version 6,0 (Service Pack 2) Current beta is 4.2.35 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: When are we going to get a fix for the never ending attempts to download?
On Friday, March 12, 2010, 6:28:31 PM, Thomas Fernandez wrote: Done. I do believe it has to do with your settings in URL manager though, whether the problem occurs. I find this paragraph confusing. Whose settings? -- Dwight A. Corrin 316.303.9385 phone ahead to fax dcorrin at fastmail.fm photo galleries at http://dcorrin.smugmug.com photo blog at http://dcorrin.aminus3.com http://photos.vfxy.com/photoblogs/5882 Using IMAP with The Bat! 4.2.35 on Windows 7 version 6,1 () Current beta is 4.2.35 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
searching the log
I just tried to search the log. There is no provision that I could find to search for more than one instance of the string searched. No way to find a second instance. -- Dwight A. Corrin 316.303.9385 phone ahead to fax dcorrin at fastmail.fm photo galleries at http://dcorrin.smugmug.com photo blog at http://dcorrin.aminus3.com http://photos.vfxy.com/photoblogs/5882 Using IMAP with The Bat! 4.2.35 on Windows Vista version 6,0 (Service Pack 2) Current beta is 4.2.35 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: When are we going to get a fix for the never ending attempts to download?
On Wednesday, February 24, 2010, 1:52:05 AM, Ian A. White wrote: This is where you receive a HTML message and there is a URL that has issues. sure can't help you there. TB doesn't and won't be downloading any url's here. -- Dwight A. Corrin 316.303.9385 phone ahead to fax dcorrin at fastmail.fm photo galleries at http://dcorrin.smugmug.com photo blog at http://dcorrin.aminus3.com http://photos.vfxy.com/photoblogs/5882 Using IMAP with The Bat! 4.2.35 on Windows Vista version 6,0 (Service Pack 2) Current beta is 4.2.35 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.2.33.7 - No HTML display improvement
On Sunday, February 7, 2010, 4:18:32 PM, Paul Van Noord wrote: They _did_ send a link. It is in the first line of the message. It seems inappropriate that a non-M$ email client should be a browser. I like the distinction and expect to use a browser for many HTML messages. if you are going to have an email client which displays html email, who is going to be the judge of which one's should show up as sent, and which ones are ok if they display wrong, with that ugly green background. I'm not buying. -- Dwight A. Corrin 316.303.9385 phone ahead to fax dcorrin at fastmail.fm photo galleries at http://dcorrin.smugmug.com photo blog at http://dcorrin.aminus3.com http://photos.vfxy.com/photoblogs/5882 Using IMAP with The Bat! 4.2.24.6 Beta on Windows 7 version 6,1 () Current beta is 4.2.33.7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.2.33.7
On Friday, February 5, 2010, 10:37:37 PM, Roger Phillips wrote: Still does not print everything that is displayed. If the displayed message is more than say 76 characters wide, it only prints the 76 characters. A browser will print everything that is displayed. But your browser wouldn't know how wide your printer is? -- Dwight A. Corrin 316.303.9385 phone ahead to fax dcorrin at fastmail.fm photo galleries at http://dcorrin.smugmug.com photo blog at http://dcorrin.aminus3.com http://photos.vfxy.com/photoblogs/5882 Using IMAP with The Bat! 4.2.33.7 Beta on Windows Vista version 6,0 (Service Pack 2) Current beta is 4.2.33.7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
vanishing messages (was Re: 4.2.24.6)
On Sunday, January 31, 2010, 5:53:52 AM, Maxim Masiutin wrote: The Bat! 4.2.24.6 Beta is available at http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb42246.rar I am having a strange behavior this afternoon, since installing latest beta. At least twice I have read a message, then gone off to look for something in TB! It's possible both were when I went to use the search (F7), but I'm not sure. On one I followed a web link first, so I don't know at what point this happened. Anyhow, when I've come back to reply to the message, it is nowhere to be found. It doesn't show up on the web access as a message or message marked for deletion. I don't know how to recreate it. I don't know whether there are other messages which vanished and I don't know it because I didn't look for them so I could reply. But I sure can't find the messages. -- Dwight A. Corrin 316.303.9385 phone ahead to fax dcorrin at fastmail.fm photo galleries at http://dcorrin.smugmug.com photo blog at http://dcorrin.aminus3.com http://photos.vfxy.com/photoblogs/5882 Using IMAP with The Bat! 4.2.24.5 Beta on Windows Vista version 6,0 (Service Pack 2) Current beta is 4.2.24.6 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: ALL GRAPHICS RUINED!!!!!!
On Thursday, January 28, 2010, 2:49:45 PM, Ian A. White wrote: Well, here is a PNG graphic pasted inline. Naturally, the message has to be in HTML format. looks fine here -- Dwight A. Corrin 316.303.9385 phone ahead to fax dcorrin at fastmail.fm photo galleries at http://dcorrin.smugmug.com photo blog at http://dcorrin.aminus3.com http://photos.vfxy.com/photoblogs/5882 Using IMAP with The Bat! 4.2.24.3 Alpha on Windows Vista version 6,0 (Service Pack 2) Current beta is 4.2.24.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Is this a Beta test list?
On Thursday, January 28, 2010, 9:46:00 PM, Ian A. White wrote: I have just become caught up in the disaster that is 4.2.24.3 Alpha. The last word is what is concerning me. The beta list is now being used to carry out alpha testing, and so we are ending up using a program that is extremely buggy and not something that a beta tester should be using. It's clearly identified as an alpha version. The latest problem is where attachments become unusable and this ends up causing much embarrassment when attachments are sent to clients and the clients become rather irate as the attachments cannot be opened. It's an alpha version. Each of us has chosen whether to test it, and in what environment. They ask for the attachments to be sent again, and again the attachments cannot be opened. -- Dwight A. Corrin 316.303.9385 phone ahead to fax dcorrin at fastmail.fm photo galleries at http://dcorrin.smugmug.com photo blog at http://dcorrin.aminus3.com http://photos.vfxy.com/photoblogs/5882 Using IMAP with The Bat! 4.2.24.3 Alpha on Windows Vista version 6,0 (Service Pack 2) Current beta is 4.2.24.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Is this a Beta test list?
On Thursday, January 28, 2010, 9:46:00 PM, Ian A. White wrote: I have just become caught up in the disaster that is 4.2.24.3 Alpha. The last word is what is concerning me. The beta list is now being used to carry out alpha testing, and so we are ending up using a program that is extremely buggy and not something that a beta tester should be using. It's clearly identified as an alpha version. The latest problem is where attachments become unusable and this ends up causing much embarrassment when attachments are sent to clients and the clients become rather irate as the attachments cannot be opened. It's an alpha version. Each of us has chosen whether to test it, and in what environment. They ask for the attachments to be sent again, and again the attachments cannot be opened. -- Dwight A. Corrin 316.303.9385 phone ahead to fax dcorrin at fastmail.fm photo galleries at http://dcorrin.smugmug.com photo blog at http://dcorrin.aminus3.com http://photos.vfxy.com/photoblogs/5882 Using IMAP with The Bat! 4.2.24.3 Alpha on Windows Vista version 6,0 (Service Pack 2) Current beta is 4.2.24.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Incoming Files are trashed
On Thursday, January 28, 2010, 9:48:22 PM, Costas Papadopoulos wrote: I just sent myself an e-mail that contained a ZIP and RAR attachment. The attachments in the Sent Mail folder are OK as both test OK. The attachments in the received mail folder are both considered invalid by WinZip and WinRAR. Based on a single test I can confirm the problem with RAR attachments. I didn't test any zip file attachments. I just sent myself a zip file, to my gmail address, which was forwarded to my IMAP account, and was collected by TB! working fine in powerdeskpro. -- Dwight A. Corrin 316.303.9385 phone ahead to fax dcorrin at fastmail.fm photo galleries at http://dcorrin.smugmug.com photo blog at http://dcorrin.aminus3.com http://photos.vfxy.com/photoblogs/5882 Using IMAP with The Bat! 4.2.24.3 Alpha on Windows Vista version 6,0 (Service Pack 2) Current beta is 4.2.24.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: De rust keert terug in januarie..
Title: Re: De rust keert terug in januarie.. On Monday, January 25, 2010, 8:32:54 PM, Thomas Fernandez wrote: Wow, consider the possibilities. Too bad it doesn't work like the MicroEd editor in these boxes. and that the text background doesn't work like it should either It let me change the color of the type pretty ridiculous Hello Volker, On Mon, 25 Jan 2010 20:15:11 +0100 GMT (26/Jan/10, 2:15 AM +0700 GMT), Volker Ahrendt wrote: See here the previous discussion [Reply to: »Dwight Corrin« · 2010-01-25 · 18:55 h (CET)] Moin, Dwight! And you can write some text in it On Monday, January 25, 2010, 11:48:10 AM, Mark Partous wrote: As Dwight Corrin said : "you can make it thinner by hovering -- Dwight A. Corrin 316.303.9385 phone ahead to fax dcorrin at fastmail.fm photo galleries athttp://dcorrin.smugmug.com photo blog athttp://dcorrin.aminus3.com http://photos.vfxy.com/photoblogs/5882 Using IMAP with The Bat! 4.2.23.1 Alpha on Windows Vista version 6,0 (Service Pack 2) Current beta is 4.2.23.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: HTML editor is ridiculous (was: De rust keert terug in januarie.. )
Title: Re: HTML editor is ridiculous (was: De rust keert terug in januarie.. ) On Tuesday, January 26, 2010, 10:46:56 AM, Thomas Fernandez wrote: Hello Dwight, Tuesday, January 26, 2010, 12:13:25 PM, you wrote: That's whatHTML wasinvented for. To make mails colourful. OK, there is no reason to overdo it, like we are doing now. If word goes out, Incredimail users will switch to TheBat!, and we don't want to be responsible for that. On the other hand, this may be a new way of email communication. eg Not that I like it, but then. At least we can make some use of the ugly blue bar. Never knew before why we have it at all, now I know. I wonder how many people actually like the ugly blue bar. I wouldn't know any, but then, who do I know. My suggestion is to reduce the ugly blue bar to a small sqiggly line by default. On Monday, January 25, 2010, 8:32:54 PM, Thomas Fernandez wrote: Wow, consider the possibilities. Too bad it doesn't work like the MicroEd editor in these boxes. and that the text background doesn't work like it should either It let me change the color of the type pretty ridiculous Hello Volker, On Mon, 25 Jan 2010 20:15:11 +0100 GMT (26/Jan/10, 2:15 AM +0700 GMT), Volker Ahrendt wrote: See here the previous discussion [Reply to: »Dwight Corrin« · 2010-01-25 · 18:55 h (CET)] Moin, Dwight! And you can write some text in it On Monday, January 25, 2010, 11:48:10 AM, Mark Partous wrote: As Dwight Corrin said : "you can make it thinner by hovering I'm not sure how you trim this. And must admit, only avoiding a trout kept me from top posting this reply. I agree entirely with your last suggestion. Maybe give ability to change the color? -- Dwight A. Corrin 316.303.9385 phone ahead to fax dcorrin at fastmail.fm photo galleries athttp://dcorrin.smugmug.com photo blog athttp://dcorrin.aminus3.com http://photos.vfxy.com/photoblogs/5882 Using IMAP with The Bat! 4.2.23.1 Alpha on Windows Vista version 6,0 (Service Pack 2) Current beta is 4.2.23.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: De rust keert terug in januarie..
Title: Re: De rust keert terug in januarie.. On Monday, January 25, 2010, 9:23:21 AM, Hans Stam wrote: In my reply.. in emails, see an example here below, I see that blue fat line.. how can I change this you can make it thinner by hovering with the mouse over the right margin of it and dragging to the left. better is to eliminate it by replying in plain text. -- Dwight A. Corrin 316.303.9385 phone ahead to fax dcorrin at fastmail.fm photo galleries athttp://dcorrin.smugmug.com photo blog athttp://dcorrin.aminus3.com http://photos.vfxy.com/photoblogs/5882 Using IMAP with The Bat! 4.2.23.1 Alpha on Windows Vista version 6,0 (Service Pack 2) Current beta is 4.2.23.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: De rust keert terug in januarie..
On Monday, January 25, 2010, 9:54:58 AM, Volker Ahrendt wrote: In my reply.. in emails, see an example here below, I see that blue fat line.. how can I change this you can make it thinner by hovering with the mouse over the right margin of it and dragging to the left. 1. IMO it should be thinner by default. This bold line is just awful! I wholeheartedly agree. (except that you may not have stated strongly enough how bad it is) 2. The plain-text part should include the for quoted text, too. When you made your plain text reply to my HTML message, did the blue line change to carrots automatically, or did it require you to fix it to appear as it should? -- Dwight A. Corrin 316.303.9385 phone ahead to fax dcorrin at fastmail.fm photo galleries at http://dcorrin.smugmug.com photo blog at http://dcorrin.aminus3.com http://photos.vfxy.com/photoblogs/5882 Using IMAP with The Bat! 4.2.23.1 Alpha on Windows Vista version 6,0 (Service Pack 2) Current beta is 4.2.23.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: De rust keert terug in januarie..
Title: Re: De rust keert terug in januarie.. On Monday, January 25, 2010, 11:48:10 AM, Mark Partous wrote: As Dwight Corrin said : "you can make it thinner by hovering with the mouse over the right margin of it and dragging to the left" you can make it stand out too :) -- Dwight A. Corrin 316.303.9385 phone ahead to fax dcorrin at fastmail.fm photo galleries athttp://dcorrin.smugmug.com photo blog athttp://dcorrin.aminus3.com http://photos.vfxy.com/photoblogs/5882 Using IMAP with The Bat! 4.2.23.1 Alpha on Windows Vista version 6,0 (Service Pack 2) Current beta is 4.2.23.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.2.19.5
On Monday, January 18, 2010, 2:21:50 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote: Running here, except that mail retrieval is not running smoothly. Folder check on startup does not complete. Also manual mail check. But with a little jiggling, I can get mail. That's very strange, we didn't change anything related to mail checking. Do you speak about POP3 or about IMAP? This is Imap. just busted out the connection center to see if anything looked untoward. Don't notice any (extra) imap irregularities. -- Dwight A. Corrin 316.303.9385 phone ahead to fax dcorrin at fastmail.fm photo galleries at http://dcorrin.smugmug.com photo blog at http://dcorrin.aminus3.com http://photos.vfxy.com/photoblogs/5882 Using IMAP with The Bat! 4.2.19.5 ALPHA on Windows Vista version 6,0 (Service Pack 2) Current beta is 4.2.19.6 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.2.19
On Thursday, January 7, 2010, 5:10:59 PM, Maxim Masiutin wrote: [*] Improved speed of handling folder names. This may be noticeable on very slow computers with very large folder trees, otherwise the effect is negligible. But this can caouse data loss unless you copy your message base prior to installing this ALPHA version. running imap only on this machine, and up and running. haven't noticed any folders missing, but of course lots different than pop. -- Dwight A. Corrin 316.303.9385 phone ahead to fax dcorrin at fastmail.fm photo galleries at http://dcorrin.smugmug.com photo blog at http://dcorrin.aminus3.com http://photos.vfxy.com/photoblogs/5882 Using IMAP with The Bat! 4.2.18 Christmas Edition on Windows Vista version 6,0 (Service Pack 2) Current beta is 4.2.19 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.2.14.2
On Thursday, December 24, 2009, 11:40:01 AM, Maxim Masiutin wrote: The Bat! 4.2.14.2 BETA is available at http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb42142.rar seems fine here so far. -- Dwight A. Corrin 316.303.9385 phone ahead to fax dcorrin at fastmail.fm photo galleries at http://dcorrin.smugmug.com photo blog at http://dcorrin.aminus3.com http://photos.vfxy.com/photoblogs/5882 Using IMAP with The Bat! 4.2.14.2 BETA on Windows Vista version 6,0 (Service Pack 2) Current beta is 4.2.14.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.2.13.3
On Thursday, November 19, 2009, 4:09:07 AM, Maxim Masiutin wrote: [-] IMAP didn't work in the previous alpha (BETA issue) confirmed here as well -- Dwight A. Corrin 316.303.9385 phone ahead to fax dcorrin at fastmail.fm photo galleries at http://dcorrin.smugmug.com photo blog at http://dcorrin.aminus3.com http://photos.vfxy.com/photoblogs/5882 Using IMAP with The Bat! 4.2.13.3 ALPHA on Windows Vista version 6,0 (Service Pack 2) Current beta is 4.2.13.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.2.13.2
On Tuesday, November 17, 2009, 5:34:27 PM, Bob Riley wrote: FYI, I just switched back to 4.2.13.1, and now IMAP works perfectly. confirmed. with the new 432.13.2, nothing ever happened in the connection center. No error messages on exit, just nothing logged and no indication it ever tried to connect with fastmail. still fine with last version, hence able to 1) receive this message, and 2) reply to it. -- Dwight A. Corrin 316.303.9385 phone ahead to fax dcorrin at fastmail.fm photo galleries at http://dcorrin.smugmug.com photo blog at http://dcorrin.aminus3.com http://photos.vfxy.com/photoblogs/5882 Using IMAP with The Bat! 4.2.13.1 ALPHA on Windows Vista version 6,0 (Service Pack 2) Current beta is 4.2.13.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.2.12.1
On Saturday, October 31, 2009, 2:56:39 AM, GwenDragon wrote: I have this problem too with a new IMAP-Account. I promise to open a new IMAP account or two as soon as we get an IMAP beta, which I HOPE is SOON. Until then I'm just going along with what I have, where my main complaints are keeping track of numbers of unread messages in Vista and duplicate entries in XP -- Dwight A. Corrin 316.303.9385 phone ahead to fax dcorrin at fastmail.fm photo galleries at http://dcorrin.smugmug.com photo blog at http://dcorrin.aminus3.com http://photos.vfxy.com/photoblogs/5882 Using IMAP with The Bat! 4.2.12.2 on Windows Vista version 6,0 (Service Pack 2) Current beta is 4.2.10.17 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.2.12.1
On Friday, October 30, 2009, 5:33:27 AM, Marek Mikus wrote: my test was really strange. I sent a message with background to my gmail account, and looked at it with gmail. Beginning of the text showed up in I can reproduce this by sending a message with any background color and white text. (as long as following paragraphs don't revert to black. I see that the dark blue type did not survive into the second paragraph. of the four test messages I've sent, two have reverted to black and two have not. I can not reproduce, please describe how can be this reproduced step by step. -- Dwight A. Corrin 316.303.9385 phone ahead to fax dcorrin at fastmail.fm photo galleries at http://dcorrin.smugmug.com photo blog at http://dcorrin.aminus3.com http://photos.vfxy.com/photoblogs/5882 Using IMAP with The Bat! 4.2.12.2 on Windows Vista version 6,0 (Service Pack 2) Current beta is 4.2.10.17 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.2.12.1
On Friday, October 30, 2009, 5:28:31 AM, Marek Mikus wrote: I have sent an HTML message with green background to gmail from MS Outlook and Gmail do not show it neither, so I do not think, You should use Gmail as a reference. it didn't hit me that I had used white type on my initial test and that was the cause until the second test, at your request. I don't see how you can say don't use gmail as a reference. Many people use it every day. It may not be a bat bug which leaves the color out, but I surely won't be the only person who ever chooses white for their text color. -- Dwight A. Corrin 316.303.9385 phone ahead to fax dcorrin at fastmail.fm photo galleries at http://dcorrin.smugmug.com photo blog at http://dcorrin.aminus3.com http://photos.vfxy.com/photoblogs/5882 Using IMAP with The Bat! 4.2.12.2 on Windows Vista version 6,0 (Service Pack 2) Current beta is 4.2.10.17 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Upload to IMAP folder broken
On Thursday, September 17, 2009, 2:29:01 AM, Carsten Guthardt-Schulz wrote: I wonder, though, what will happen if I move the mails and TB disconnects even within a batch, will some of the mails be lost? I've never had a problem like that, but if it is a concern, you can always copy, then go back and delete, rather than just move. -- Dwight A. Corrin 316.303.9385 phone ahead to fax dcorrin at fastmail.fm photo galleries at http://dcorrin.smugmug.com photo blog at http://dcorrin.aminus3.com http://photos.vfxy.com/photoblogs/5882 Using IMAP with The Bat! 4.2.10.12 on Windows Vista version 6,0 (Service Pack 2) Current beta is 4.2.10.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: MESSAGE LOSS (was: Upload to IMAP folder broken)
On Thursday, September 17, 2009, 7:04:09 AM, Carsten Guthardt-Schulz wrote: The Bat disconnects (claiming that the server ended the connection) whenever the message to be uploaded exceeds 2 MB. never had this happen to me. How can TB be broken because the server ends the connection? -- Dwight A. Corrin 316.303.9385 phone ahead to fax dcorrin at fastmail.fm photo galleries at http://dcorrin.smugmug.com photo blog at http://dcorrin.aminus3.com http://photos.vfxy.com/photoblogs/5882 Using IMAP with The Bat! 4.2.10.12 on Windows Vista version 6,0 (Service Pack 2) Current beta is 4.2.10.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: HTML Editor: Text background colour is not properly terminated
Title: Re: HTML Editor: Text background colour is not properly terminated On Thursday, September 17, 2009, 8:31:44 AM, Jean-Michel Saby wrote: Could somebody please confirm this problem ? confirmed. Blocking and choosing a background color for slected text seems to make the background color for the rest of the message that color until changed. BlueWhite YellowWhite GreenWhite Interestingly, I think that you will find that when**here i will change a little to white background although it appears white in my message**I changed to white text in the blue, the same problem was not created as with the background color. -- Dwight A. Corrin 316.303.9385 phone ahead to fax dcorrin at fastmail.fm photo galleries athttp://dcorrin.smugmug.com photo blog athttp://dcorrin.aminus3.com http://photos.vfxy.com/photoblogs/5882 Using IMAP with The Bat! 4.2.10.12 on Windows Vista version 6,0 (Service Pack 2) Current beta is 4.2.10.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: HTML Editor: Text background colour is not properly terminated
Title: Re: HTML Editor: Text background colour is not properly terminated I have turned the background of this entire message silver. I am going toHIGHLIGHTthe all cap word by changing the background color for that word to white. I believe the entire message will arrive with a white background. -- Dwight A. Corrin 316.303.9385 phone ahead to fax dcorrin at fastmail.fm photo galleries athttp://dcorrin.smugmug.com photo blog athttp://dcorrin.aminus3.com http://photos.vfxy.com/photoblogs/5882 Using IMAP with The Bat! 4.2.10.12 on Windows Vista version 6,0 (Service Pack 2) Current beta is 4.2.10.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: HTML Editor: Text background colour is not properly terminated
Title: Re: HTML Editor: Text background colour is not properly terminated On Thursday, September 17, 2009, 8:51:18 AM, Dwight Corrin wrote: I have turned the background of this entire message silver. I am going to HIGHLIGHT the all cap word by changing the background color for that word to white. I believe the entire message will arrive with a white background. HIGHLIGHTwill be green this time. I made the background yellow. (the quoted text is white) -- Dwight A. Corrin 316.303.9385 phone ahead to fax dcorrin at fastmail.fm photo galleries athttp://dcorrin.smugmug.com photo blog athttp://dcorrin.aminus3.com http://photos.vfxy.com/photoblogs/5882 Using IMAP with The Bat! 4.2.10.12 on Windows Vista version 6,0 (Service Pack 2) Current beta is 4.2.10.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: MESSAGE LOSS (was: Upload to IMAP folder broken)
On Thursday, September 17, 2009, 9:12:43 AM, Carsten Guthardt-Schulz wrote: If you try to copy a message of 2 MB to an IMAP folder of your choice, does the upload work? I'm not sure what you are trying to do. I have no problem sending messages larger than that, and just successfully sent a 34MB message. I had no problem moving some large messages from one mailbox to another within my IMAP account (which doesn't make TB! do much). If youi mean that you cannot move messages from a local folder to an IMAP folder, I don't know why one would do that. My problem is keeping up with archiving so that I don't go beyond my limit at my IMAP account. (As far as I know, I have never lost a message when doing this.) -- Dwight A. Corrin 316.303.9385 phone ahead to fax dcorrin at fastmail.fm photo galleries at http://dcorrin.smugmug.com photo blog at http://dcorrin.aminus3.com http://photos.vfxy.com/photoblogs/5882 Using IMAP with The Bat! 4.2.10.12 on Windows Vista version 6,0 (Service Pack 2) Current beta is 4.2.10.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Plain text message ends up HTML if edited once in Outbox
On Thursday, September 10, 2009, 11:58:36 AM, Thomas Fernandez wrote: But the logic of your problem is this: When you create the message, the folder/AB template applies with regards to the editor. If you reopen it from the editor, TB! forgets about that template and uses the default editor. first of all, i can't confirm. I use microed, and tested with an html message. it remained html message. 2d, if your explanation is correct, that makes no sense to me. the message should be in whatever format it was created in, as long as it exists in the outbox or in sent messages. (no comment on the draft folder) -- Dwight A. Corrin 316.303.9385 phone ahead to fax dcorrin at fastmail.fm photo galleries at http://dcorrin.smugmug.com photo blog at http://dcorrin.aminus3.com http://photos.vfxy.com/photoblogs/5882 Using IMAP with The Bat! 4.2.10.9 on Windows Vista version 6,0 (Service Pack 2) Current beta is 4.2.10.9 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Plain text message ends up HTML if edited once in Outbox
On Friday, September 11, 2009, 9:15:26 PM, Ian A. White wrote: Are you saying that your default message format is Plain Text; you created a message in HTML format; saved it to your Outbox as a draft; then double-clicked on it in the Outbox and the message format remained as HTML when it was re-edited? yes. -- Dwight A. Corrin 316.303.9385 phone ahead to fax dcorrin at fastmail.fm photo galleries at http://dcorrin.smugmug.com photo blog at http://dcorrin.aminus3.com http://photos.vfxy.com/photoblogs/5882 Using IMAP with The Bat! 4.2.10.9 on Windows Vista version 6,0 (Service Pack 2) Current beta is 4.2.10.9 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Postponed sending is not working
On Wednesday, September 9, 2009, 4:35:04 PM, Rick wrote: That still translates to ... BROKEN. the problem I keep reporting is that if one sends queued mail, and there are messages present for delivery later, they get send immediately. -- Dwight A. Corrin 316.303.9385 phone ahead to fax dcorrin at fastmail.fm photo galleries at http://dcorrin.smugmug.com photo blog at http://dcorrin.aminus3.com http://photos.vfxy.com/photoblogs/5882 Using IMAP with The Bat! 4.2.10.8 on Windows Vista version 6,0 (Service Pack 1) Current beta is 4.2.10.9 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: [Ritlabs-news] The Bat! 4.2.10 is Compatible with Windows 7
On Thursday, August 27, 2009, 3:11:27 AM, Henk M. de Bruijn wrote: Is the similar version as the one we are using right now? I just ran the MSI. (Hadn't updated to 4.2.10.7 yet.) After MSI finished, I still have 4.2.10.6 installed. -- Dwight A. Corrin 316.303.9385 phone ahead to fax dcorrin at fastmail.fm photo galleries at http://dcorrin.smugmug.com photo blog at http://dcorrin.aminus3.com http://photos.vfxy.com/photoblogs/5882 Using IMAP with The Bat! 4.2.10.6 on Windows Vista version 6,0 (Service Pack 2) Current beta is 4.2.10.7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Postponed Sending broken
On Thursday, August 27, 2009, 10:54:47 AM, Rick wrote: Is there anyone with an interest in postponed sending? I really have no apparent need for it. I tested it several times, and never saw it get fixed. -- Dwight A. Corrin 316.303.9385 phone ahead to fax dcorrin at fastmail.fm photo galleries at http://dcorrin.smugmug.com photo blog at http://dcorrin.aminus3.com http://photos.vfxy.com/photoblogs/5882 Using IMAP with The Bat! 4.2.10.6 on Windows Vista version 6,0 (Service Pack 2) Current beta is 4.2.10.7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Postponed Sending broken
On Thursday, August 27, 2009, 11:09:07 AM, Dwight Corrin wrote: Is there anyone with an interest in postponed sending? I really have no apparent need for it. I tested it several times, and never saw it get fixed. I just sent a delayed message from my IMAP account. When I hit the send queued mail icon, the mail was sent, although an hour early I also sent one from gmail and I'll be watching it too. At least send queued mail didn't dispatch it. -- Dwight A. Corrin 316.303.9385 phone ahead to fax dcorrin at fastmail.fm photo galleries at http://dcorrin.smugmug.com photo blog at http://dcorrin.aminus3.com http://photos.vfxy.com/photoblogs/5882 Using IMAP with The Bat! 4.2.10.7 on Windows Vista version 6,0 (Service Pack 1) Current beta is 4.2.10.7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.2.10.6
On Monday, August 24, 2009, 12:41:51 PM, Maxim Masiutin wrote: [-] (#0007696): problems reading certain html messages with latest betas the messages I observed to be problematic are now displaying again. -- Dwight A. Corrin 316.303.9385 phone ahead to fax dcorrin at fastmail.fm photo galleries at http://dcorrin.smugmug.com photo blog at http://dcorrin.aminus3.com http://photos.vfxy.com/photoblogs/5882 Using IMAP with The Bat! 4.2.10.6 on Windows Vista version 6,0 (Service Pack 1) Current beta is 4.2.10.6 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: problems reading certain html messages with latest betas
On Saturday, August 22, 2009, 12:14:54 AM, Roger Phillips wrote: No problem here with HTML messages. I cannot check IMAP or MAPI. have you tried the samples uploaded to bug tracker? https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=7696 -- Dwight A. Corrin 316.303.9385 phone ahead to fax dcorrin at fastmail.fm photo galleries at http://dcorrin.smugmug.com photo blog at http://dcorrin.aminus3.com http://photos.vfxy.com/photoblogs/5882 Using IMAP with The Bat! 4.2.10.5 on Windows Vista version 6,0 (Service Pack 2) Current beta is 4.2.10.5 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
problems reading certain html messages with latest betas
I subscribe to certain (html) newsletters from www.slate.com Today I discovered that all I was seeing was the header, and that the body of the text did not appear in 4.2.10.5. I flagged 7 which didn't appear, then tried again in 4.2.10.4. Still not there. I went to look at my xp-pro desktop running 4.2.10.1, and the text appeared. I then upgraded there to 4.2.10.4, and the content disappeared therer as well. -- Dwight A. Corrin 316.303.9385 phone ahead to fax dcorrin at fastmail.fm photo galleries at http://dcorrin.smugmug.com photo blog at http://dcorrin.aminus3.com http://photos.vfxy.com/photoblogs/5882 Using IMAP with The Bat! 4.2.10.4 on Windows Vista version 6,0 (Service Pack 1) Current beta is 4.2.10.5 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
problems reading certain html messages with latest betas
I subscribe to certain newsletters from www.slate.com Today I discovered that all I was seeing was the header, and that the body of the text did not appear in 4.2.10. -- Dwight A. Corrin 316.303.9385 phone ahead to fax dcorrin at fastmail.fm photo galleries at http://dcorrin.smugmug.com photo blog at http://dcorrin.aminus3.com http://photos.vfxy.com/photoblogs/5882 Using IMAP with The Bat! 4.2.10.4 on Windows Vista version 6,0 (Service Pack 1) Current beta is 4.2.10.5 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: problems reading certain html messages with latest betas
On Friday, August 21, 2009, 3:43:44 PM, Dwight Corrin wrote: I subscribe to certain newsletters from www.slate.com Today I discovered that all I was seeing was the header, and that the body of the text did not appear in 4.2.10. it looks like my outbox is misbehaving again, since this partial message apparently went out over an hour after the whole one. mid:90957150.20090821154...@fastmail.fm -- Dwight A. Corrin 316.303.9385 phone ahead to fax dcorrin at fastmail.fm photo galleries at http://dcorrin.smugmug.com photo blog at http://dcorrin.aminus3.com http://photos.vfxy.com/photoblogs/5882 Using IMAP with The Bat! 4.2.10.5 on Windows Vista version 6,0 (Service Pack 2) Current beta is 4.2.10.5 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: problems reading certain html messages with latest betas
On Friday, August 21, 2009, 5:49:32 PM, Arjan de Groot wrote: I think you have to provide RL with some samples of non-readable HTML messages, because the messages I tried myself just showed OK in 4.2.10.5. I opened a bug report, and sent an email about same, which now does not seem to have arrived and which also seems never to have made it intomysentmailfolder, (perhapsadjunct to mid:1853453711.20090821172...@fastmail.fm ) https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=7696 there is a sample message attached there. -- Dwight A. Corrin 316.303.9385 phone ahead to fax dcorrin at fastmail.fm photo galleries at http://dcorrin.smugmug.com photo blog at http://dcorrin.aminus3.com http://photos.vfxy.com/photoblogs/5882 Using IMAP with The Bat! 4.2.10.5 on Windows Vista version 6,0 (Service Pack 2) Current beta is 4.2.10.5 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: problems reading certain html messages with latest betas
On Friday, August 21, 2009, 4:11:39 PM, Ralf Schellenberger wrote: i have the same problem. I made tracker report https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=7696 -- Dwight A. Corrin 316.303.9385 phone ahead to fax dcorrin at fastmail.fm photo galleries at http://dcorrin.smugmug.com photo blog at http://dcorrin.aminus3.com http://photos.vfxy.com/photoblogs/5882 Using IMAP with The Bat! 4.2.10.4 on Windows Vista version 6,0 (Service Pack 1) Current beta is 4.2.10.5 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Back and Forward button and history like in Internet browser
On Wednesday, August 19, 2009, 1:45:10 AM, Jernej Simončič wrote: Add Move to previously viewed and Move to next viewed buttons to your toolbar (or use Alt+Left and Alt+Right keyboard shortcuts). sometimes it would be nice to go back to the last message viewed in a particular folder, instead of last in general. -- Dwight A. Corrin 316.303.9385 phone ahead to fax dcorrin at fastmail.fm photo galleries at http://dcorrin.smugmug.com photo blog at http://dcorrin.aminus3.com http://photos.vfxy.com/photoblogs/5882 Using IMAP with The Bat! 4.2.10.1 on Windows Vista version 6,0 (Service Pack 2) Current beta is 4.2.9.7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Back and Forward button and history like in Internet browser
On Wednesday, August 19, 2009, 5:13:09 AM, Roelof Otten wrote: In that case select that folder, TB remembers where it was. but not the previously viewed one in that folder. -- Dwight A. Corrin 316.303.9385 phone ahead to fax dcorrin at fastmail.fm photo galleries at http://dcorrin.smugmug.com photo blog at http://dcorrin.aminus3.com http://photos.vfxy.com/photoblogs/5882 Using IMAP with The Bat! 4.2.10.1 on Windows Vista version 6,0 (Service Pack 2) Current beta is 4.2.9.7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! 4.2.10 is Compatible for Windows 7
On Monday, August 17, 2009, 7:08:07 AM, Scott Sims wrote: The icon still does not have the moving bat icon when in the taskbar. When will this be fixed? It just flaps away here. Doesn't even seem to get tired. Works for xp pro,vista 32 and 64 -- Dwight A. Corrin 316.303.9385 phone ahead to fax dcorrin at fastmail.fm photo galleries at http://dcorrin.smugmug.com photo blog at http://dcorrin.aminus3.com http://photos.vfxy.com/photoblogs/5882 Using IMAP with The Bat! 4.2.10.1 on Windows Vista version 6,0 (Service Pack 2) Current beta is 4.2.9.7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
messages in my outbox
can anyone explain why my outbox looks like this? http://dcorrin.smugmug.com/gallery/5166336_ozSKQ#600510039_bzMoL-A-LB the message is there 17 times. Only 16 appear to be parked. The message does not appear in my sent mail folder. When I hit the upward pointing green arrow on an envelope icon, it says 'nothing to send' I did recently observe a message I sent to a list appearing there despite not showing up on my sent mail folder, but I have no way of knowing on this one. Hopefully this message will go out, and hopefully there aren't 10 or 20 copies already in my outbox. -- Dwight A. Corrin 316.303.9385 phone ahead to fax dcorrin at fastmail.fm photo galleries at http://dcorrin.smugmug.com photo blog at http://dcorrin.aminus3.com http://photos.vfxy.com/photoblogs/5882 Using IMAP with The Bat! 4.2.9.2 on Windows Vista version 6,0 () Current beta is 4.2.9.4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: messages in my outbox
On Friday, July 24, 2009, 12:29:47 PM, MAU wrote: It seems that each 'Auto Save' didn't overwrite the previous one. it should, shouldn't it? -- Dwight A. Corrin 316.303.9385 phone ahead to fax dcorrin at fastmail.fm photo galleries at http://dcorrin.smugmug.com photo blog at http://dcorrin.aminus3.com http://photos.vfxy.com/photoblogs/5882 Using IMAP with The Bat! 4.2.9.2 on Windows Vista version 6,0 (Service Pack 2) Current beta is 4.2.9.4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.2.9 MSIs
On Wednesday, July 22, 2009, 2:03:18 PM, Bob Riley wrote: waiting patiently to get back to TB with improved IMAP you are not alone. -- Dwight A. Corrin 316.303.9385 phone ahead to fax dcorrin at fastmail.fm photo galleries at http://dcorrin.smugmug.com photo blog at http://dcorrin.aminus3.com http://photos.vfxy.com/photoblogs/5882 Using IMAP with The Bat! 4.2.9 on Windows Vista version 6,0 (Service Pack 2) Current beta is 4.2.9.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Self Duplicating Messages
On Sunday, July 5, 2009, 3:12:57 PM, Jens Franik wrote: But what else has been the Reason for it? (do you already know?) I have no idea. I have not observed that it happens in any particular folder, or at any particular time. It seems to be random, and was a pretty regular occurrence. It could be most, or it could be all new messages in that folder. Focus on the folder and a ctrl-d would make it go away. If anyone actually showed enough interest to investigate, I could fire up that machine and use it to read my mail, but it's been a while since I've used it. -- Dwight A. Corrin 316.303.9385 phone ahead to fax dcorrin at fastmail.fm photo galleries at http://dcorrin.smugmug.com photo blog at http://dcorrin.aminus3.com http://photos.vfxy.com/photoblogs/5882 Using IMAP with The Bat! 4.2.6 on Windows Vista version 6,0 (Service Pack 2) Current beta is 4.2.7.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Self Duplicating Messages
On Sunday, July 5, 2009, 8:42:09 AM, Thomas Fernandez wrote: I confirm this behaviour. It only applies to parked messages my duplicate message problems have had nothing to do with parked messages. -- Dwight A. Corrin 316.303.9385 phone ahead to fax dcorrin at fastmail.fm photo galleries at http://dcorrin.smugmug.com photo blog at http://dcorrin.aminus3.com http://photos.vfxy.com/photoblogs/5882 Using IMAP with The Bat! 4.2.6 on Windows Vista version 6,0 () Current beta is 4.2.6 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Self Duplicating Messages
On Thursday, June 25, 2009, 5:10:12 PM, Roelof Otten wrote: Could it be that you've got some filters that are making amok? I've pretty much retired my xp machine. (have been saving for IMAP testing when it comes), but I had this problem, of messages being listed twice frequently. It was not filter driven, because I don't use local filters for IMAP, and use only IMAP now. All my POP mail gets collected by my fastmail account. -- Dwight A. Corrin 316.303.9385 phone ahead to fax dcorrin at fastmail.fm photo galleries at http://dcorrin.smugmug.com photo blog at http://dcorrin.aminus3.com http://photos.vfxy.com/photoblogs/5882 Using IMAP with The Bat! 4.2.6 on Windows Vista version 6,0 (Service Pack 2) Current beta is 4.2.6 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: delayed sending
On Monday, June 15, 2009, 2:39:50 PM, mse wrote: Did you or the other user close the program between creating the mails and sending them? I know that I have to close the program often, because that is the only to get counts updated, new mail colleccted, and messages which have been read elsewhere to be recognized as read so scrolling through unread messages doesn't stop at all those as well. So I can pretty much guarantee that I have closed and opened TB! during the time that messages have been waiting to be sent, but that shouldn't interfere if it worked right. -- Dwight A. Corrin 316.303.9385 phone ahead to fax dcorrin at fastmail.fm photo galleries at http://dcorrin.smugmug.com photo blog at http://dcorrin.aminus3.com http://photos.vfxy.com/photoblogs/5882 Using IMAP with The Bat! 4.2.6 on Windows Vista version 6,0 () Current beta is 4.2.6 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: delayed sending
On Monday, June 15, 2009, 2:39:50 PM, mse wrote: Did you or the other user close the program between creating the mails and sending them? Has the computer been in standby or in hibernation mode and has been restarted before the mails ought to be sent? Has Windows been restarted? Has the screen saver been activated? I just created two messages, set one for tomorrow with custom and one for 8 tomorrow. Before any restarting, standby, screensaver or anything had a chance to operate, sending queued messages dispatched them both. -- Dwight A. Corrin 316.303.9385 phone ahead to fax dcorrin at fastmail.fm photo galleries at http://dcorrin.smugmug.com photo blog at http://dcorrin.aminus3.com http://photos.vfxy.com/photoblogs/5882 Using IMAP with The Bat! 4.2.6 on Windows Vista version 6,0 () Current beta is 4.2.6 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
delayed sending
First of all, my sent mail is wierd, because it always shows the received time an hour later than the created date, including when it's not during daylight savings time. Yesterday at 9:14 am, I sent myself a message, to be dispatched at 8 am tomorrow (today). The message was sent today, at 9:04 am. It appears in my sent mail, under yesterday's date, having been created at 9:14 and received at 10:14. It seems like it should appear as having been sent today at 9:04 am. It also seems like it should have been sent at 8 instead of 9. There is a second message, which was composed at the same time, and set to be sent in 24 hours, by the custom setting. This message is still sitting in the outbox, (it is currently about 11:35 am Thursday). -- Dwight A. Corrin 316.303.9385 phone ahead to fax dcorrin at fastmail.fm photo galleries at http://dcorrin.smugmug.com photo blog at http://dcorrin.aminus3.com http://photos.vfxy.com/photoblogs/5882 Using IMAP with The Bat! 4.2.1.1 on Windows Vista version 6,0 () Current beta is 4.2.4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: delayed sending
On Thursday, June 11, 2009, 11:34:47 AM, Dwight Corrin wrote: There is a second message, which was composed at the same time, and set to be sent in 24 hours, by the custom setting. This message is still sitting in the outbox, (it is currently about 11:35 am Thursday). it went out at 11:56 am. I should add that the problem with the mails being prematurely dispatched with the send queued messages did not occur. -- Dwight A. Corrin 316.303.9385 phone ahead to fax dcorrin at fastmail.fm photo galleries at http://dcorrin.smugmug.com photo blog at http://dcorrin.aminus3.com http://photos.vfxy.com/photoblogs/5882 Using IMAP with The Bat! 4.2.4 on Windows Vista version 6,0 (Service Pack 1) Current beta is 4.2.4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Again IMAP Support (was: The Bat! 4.2 release)
On Monday, June 8, 2009, 5:44:30 PM, Marek Mikus wrote: I hope, this is enough now to stop imap-related discussion until anything related to IMAP will be announced. I would say just the opposite, that an IMAP announcement might stop the imap related discussion by either raising hopes or running off the last of those hopeful something will sometime actually be done. -- Dwight A. Corrin 316.303.9385 phone ahead to fax dcorrin at fastmail.fm photo galleries at http://dcorrin.smugmug.com photo blog at http://dcorrin.aminus3.com http://photos.vfxy.com/photoblogs/5882 Using IMAP with The Bat! 4.2.1.1 on Windows Vista version 6,0 (Service Pack 1) Current beta is 4.2.4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Again IMAP Support (was: The Bat! 4.2 release)
On Tuesday, June 9, 2009, 7:13:48 PM, Rick wrote: Maybe its time to call this thread to an end. Ya THNK? Why don't we all go over to the table, have cake and ice cream and enjoy the rest of the evening :) I think the cake and ice cream is a good idea. I'm going to watch the Stanley Cup game, myself. But the end of this thread should be a communication from TB! -- Dwight A. Corrin 316.303.9385 phone ahead to fax dcorrin at fastmail.fm photo galleries at http://dcorrin.smugmug.com photo blog at http://dcorrin.aminus3.com http://photos.vfxy.com/photoblogs/5882 Using IMAP with The Bat! 4.2.1.1 on Windows Vista version 6,0 () Current beta is 4.2.4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Again IMAP Support (was: The Bat! 4.2 release)
On Monday, June 8, 2009, 4:23:43 PM, Marek Mikus wrote: this build called 4.2 was not planned in january and was released now as requested bugfix version with some additions and Postponed sending. This is the reason. If this is true, what will the excuse be in 4 or 5 months when 4.3 fixes the postponed settings, we can look forward to starting IMAP by the time 4.4 is released next June, since it is the one real version after the not planned version as the requested bugfix version, since I don't see many bugs fixed yet in 4.2. The few of us who have been waiting patiently since 2005 or earlier, instead of bolting to Apple, Linux, Incredimail, Thunderbird etc, could wait until 2011 before the promise will be perhaps officially broken? -- Dwight A. Corrin 316.303.9385 phone ahead to fax dcorrin at fastmail.fm photo galleries at http://dcorrin.smugmug.com photo blog at http://dcorrin.aminus3.com http://photos.vfxy.com/photoblogs/5882 Using IMAP with The Bat! 4.2.1.1 on Windows Vista version 6,0 () Current beta is 4.2.4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Again IMAP Support (was: The Bat! 4.2 release)
On Monday, June 8, 2009, 5:23:05 PM, Marek Mikus wrote: customers. those waiting on IMAP are not customers? (I only go back to 1.x) -- Dwight A. Corrin 316.303.9385 phone ahead to fax dcorrin at fastmail.fm photo galleries at http://dcorrin.smugmug.com photo blog at http://dcorrin.aminus3.com http://photos.vfxy.com/photoblogs/5882 Using IMAP with The Bat! 4.2.1.1 on Windows Vista version 6,0 () Current beta is 4.2.4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Again IMAP Support (was: The Bat! 4.2 release)
On Monday, June 8, 2009, 4:55:39 PM, Marek Mikus wrote: seems You care about IMAP only, but for example our customers requested version without problem with DEP detection under Windows 2008 Server, version with fixed incorrect handling of MIME boundary, versions with fixed templates in filtering system, version with fixed quick templates in massmail, version with fixed dragdrop etc. And this is 4.2. windows 2008 server some how jumped the line behind the 2005 IMAP bug reports. -- Dwight A. Corrin 316.303.9385 phone ahead to fax dcorrin at fastmail.fm photo galleries at http://dcorrin.smugmug.com photo blog at http://dcorrin.aminus3.com http://photos.vfxy.com/photoblogs/5882 Using IMAP with The Bat! 4.2.1.1 on Windows Vista version 6,0 () Current beta is 4.2.4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! 4.2 release
On Sunday, June 7, 2009, 1:11:45 PM, Raymund Tump wrote: What is it exactly that is required in IMAP? in vista, the only way for message counts to be accurate, or for messages which may have been read at another venue to not be treated as unread, is to close and re open the program. I have some outbox problems where messages either get trapped there, and never go out, or where messages get sent, but still appear in the outbox. Those are the most aggravating. The message counting and keeping track of what is read are really pretty serious flaws. -- Dwight A. Corrin 316.303.9385 phone ahead to fax dcorrin at fastmail.fm photo galleries at http://dcorrin.smugmug.com photo blog at http://dcorrin.aminus3.com http://photos.vfxy.com/photoblogs/5882 Using IMAP with The Bat! 4.2.1.1 on Windows Vista version 6,0 () Current beta is 4.2.4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! 4.2 release
On Sunday, June 7, 2009, 8:39:39 AM, Ethan J Mings wrote: What is it exactly that is required in IMAP? I keep hearing, reading and observing endless complaints. If its a complaint, so be it. If its a real IMAP bug, report in bug track. perhaps you haven't been paying attention? we were told that work on IMAP was coming, and it has been obvious that there was no point hoping anything was going to happen until the rework which has reportedly been done and soon to be offered for testing, so no one has been re-reporting complaints. If users were endlessly complaining we would be offering a litany of what wasn't fixed with each new beta, and you'd see what 'endless complaints' would be like. -- Dwight A. Corrin 316.303.9385 phone ahead to fax dcorrin at fastmail.fm photo galleries at http://dcorrin.smugmug.com photo blog at http://dcorrin.aminus3.com http://photos.vfxy.com/photoblogs/5882 Using IMAP with The Bat! 4.2.1.1 on Windows Vista version 6,0 () Current beta is 4.2.4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: IMAP
I just found this trapped in my outbox, so I'm sending it now. On Sunday, May 31, 2009, 11:50:05 AM, Gleason Pace wrote: And it seems we both use Fastmail, and I have had no problem creating new folders. my problems in this regard occurred long ago, and I've not tried again since. No point unless we go testing. It is true that TB's folder counts aren't accurate, and TB doesn't report new mail well, but I never need to restart it. I never loose my FM connection unless DSL or FM itself is down. I didn't have those problems either with XP. I have found that seeming poor Imap reliability in all email clients has a lot to do with connection configuration. This works for me in TB: both in and out are set to use Secure To Dedicated Port, 465 for in and 993 for out. As for folder counts, I can get good counts with other clients but they are lacking some other things that TB does. There is no such thing as a client that does everything well. I have decided to use Fastcheck to tell me when new mail arrives http://www.fastcheck.org/ regardless of what client I am using. That way, that particular feature can be disregarded in favor of other more important ones when deciding on an email client. -- Dwight A. Corrin 316.303.9385 phone ahead to fax dcorrin at fastmail.fm photo galleries at http://dcorrin.smugmug.com photo blog at http://dcorrin.aminus3.com http://photos.vfxy.com/photoblogs/5882 Using IMAP with The Bat! 4.1.14.2 (RC2) on Windows Vista version 6,0 (Service Pack 1) Current beta is 4.1.14.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: IMAP
On Saturday, May 30, 2009, 9:50:51 AM, Marek Mikus wrote: You can not be serious, because Thunderbird is based on code from Mozilla Suite, so Thunderbird had IMAP support from start, but code was 6 years old! I don't know or care whether he is right about thunderbird. If it had a decent user interface I might be using it myself. But the rest of what he said is spot on. -- Dwight A. Corrin 316.303.9385 phone ahead to fax dcorrin at fastmail.fm photo galleries at http://dcorrin.smugmug.com photo blog at http://dcorrin.aminus3.com http://photos.vfxy.com/photoblogs/5882 Using IMAP with The Bat! 4.1.14.2 (RC2) on Windows Vista version 6,0 () Current beta is 4.1.14.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: IMAP
On Saturday, May 30, 2009, 7:39:05 AM, Gleason Pace wrote: But I maintain that The Bat Imap is much much better than it was just a few years ago. All that remains of the old quirkiness for me is the occasional Ctrl-c to refresh folder contents. While I agree that it is better than it once was, I certainly would not classify its major failings as 'quirkiness.' The biggest problem remains message counts. In Vista, the only way to get a current count is to exit and restart. I find myself doing that often. I'm not sure whether it is TBs fault that the server sometimes closes the connection and I have to exit and restart to reconnect, but that happens on xp often. I don't trust TB! to create new folders, but I haven't tried it lately. When we start working on IMAP, I'll get some accounts I can safely experiment on but I screwed up my real account often enough that way in the past I won't risk it there. While TB! continues to suit me better than other apps, partly at least out of habit, if I ever found an app which really handled IMAP well, I'd be gone. If we don't test IMAP, then I might as well just be gone. POP has no attraction to me, and I can't imagine that it is going to do anything in the long run but lose out to IMAP. The more people use their mail on more than one machine, the more they are going to need IMAP or webmail, or something besides POP. There are plenty of others who will be happy to mark all the dates that IMAP has been promised, unless I am the only IMAP hoper left. -- Dwight A. Corrin 316.303.9385 phone ahead to fax dcorrin at fastmail.fm photo galleries at http://dcorrin.smugmug.com photo blog at http://dcorrin.aminus3.com http://photos.vfxy.com/photoblogs/5882 Using IMAP with The Bat! 4.1.14.2 (RC2) on Windows Vista version 6,0 () Current beta is 4.1.14.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: IMAP
On Saturday, May 30, 2009, 7:39:05 AM, Gleason Pace wrote: But I maintain that The Bat Imap is much much better than it was just a few years ago. All that remains of the old quirkiness for me is the occasional Ctrl-c to refresh folder contents. While I agree that it is better than it once was, I certainly would not classify its major failings as 'quirkiness.' The biggest problem remains message counts. In Vista, the only way to get a current count is to exit and restart. I find myself doing that often. I'm not sure whether it is TBs fault that the server sometimes closes the connection and I have to exit and restart to reconnect, but that happens on xp often. I don't trust TB! to create new folders, but I haven't tried it lately. When we start working on IMAP, I'll get some accounts I can safely experiment on but I screwed up my real account often enough that way in the past I won't risk it there. While TB! continues to suit me better than other apps, partly at least out of habit, if I ever found an app which really handled IMAP well, I'd be gone. If we don't test IMAP, then I might as well just be gone. POP has no attraction to me, and I can't imagine that it is going to do anything in the long run but lose out to IMAP. The more people use their mail on more than one machine, the more they are going to need IMAP or webmail, or something besides POP. There are plenty of others who will be happy to mark all the dates that I -- Dwight A. Corrin 316.303.9385 phone ahead to fax dcorrin at fastmail.fm photo galleries at http://dcorrin.smugmug.com photo blog at http://dcorrin.aminus3.com http://photos.vfxy.com/photoblogs/5882 Using IMAP with The Bat! 4.1.14.2 (RC2) on Windows Vista version 6,0 () Current beta is 4.1.14.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Help for a sentence I don't understand
On Thursday, May 28, 2009, 10:50:02 AM, Maxim Masiutin wrote: In english it gives You can control at what time the message will be sent if it will be finished later on:. I think it's more clear. I don't fully agree with that translation. it should warn at least, that despite the time set, if you hit send queued messages, they well be sent immediately along with any other queued messages which may be sitting in your outbox. -- Dwight A. Corrin 316.303.9385 phone ahead to fax dcorrin at fastmail.fm photo galleries at http://dcorrin.smugmug.com photo blog at http://dcorrin.aminus3.com http://photos.vfxy.com/photoblogs/5882 Using IMAP with The Bat! 4.1.14.1 (RC1) on Windows Vista version 6,0 () Current beta is 4.1.14.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.1.14.2
On Thursday, May 28, 2009, 2:34:05 PM, Zygmunt Wereszczynski wrote: Confirmed as fixed, but now we have a redundancy: both macros (%Postpone and %Delay) work. but sending queued mail from the outbox still sends the delayed messages, regardless how long they were supposed to sit first. -- Dwight A. Corrin 316.303.9385 phone ahead to fax dcorrin at fastmail.fm photo galleries at http://dcorrin.smugmug.com photo blog at http://dcorrin.aminus3.com http://photos.vfxy.com/photoblogs/5882 Using IMAP with The Bat! 4.1.14.2 (RC2) on Windows Vista version 6,0 (Service Pack 1) Current beta is 4.1.14.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.1.14.2
On Thursday, May 28, 2009, 3:07:37 PM, Zygmunt Wereszczynski wrote: On Thursday, May 28, 2009, at 14:41:09 [UTC-0500] (Thursday, May 28, 2009 21:41 my local time) Dwight Corrin wrote: Confirmed as fixed, but now we have a redundancy: both macros (%Postpone and %Delay) work. but sending queued mail from the outbox still sends the delayed messages, regardless how long they were supposed to sit first. Cannot confirm your observation. I created the message, added 15 minutes delay and tried to send it from the Outbox. The message was anchored and was not send. It was send automatically on the right time. here is a test message I marked to send in 24 hours, today at 2:10 pm. As you can see, it has already arrived. -- Dwight A. Corrin 316.303.9385 phone ahead to fax dcorrin at fastmail.fm photo galleries at http://dcorrin.smugmug.com photo blog at http://dcorrin.aminus3.com http://photos.vfxy.com/photoblogs/5882 Using IMAP with The Bat! 4.1.14.2 (RC2) on Windows Vista version 6,0 (Service Pack 1)---BeginMessage--- test used custom setting for 1410 on friday -- Dwight A. Corrin 316.303.9385 phone ahead to fax dcorrin at fastmail.fm photo galleries at http://dcorrin.smugmug.com photo blog at http://dcorrin.aminus3.com http://photos.vfxy.com/photoblogs/5882 Using IMAP with The Bat! 4.1.14.1 (RC1) on Windows Vista version 6,0 () ---End Message--- Current beta is 4.1.14.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.1.14.2
On Thursday, May 28, 2009, 3:44:29 PM, Dwight Corrin wrote: here is a test message I marked to send in 24 hours, today at 2:10 pm. As you can see, it has already arrived. well, forwarding message doesn't seem to save the headers, so I guess what I sent doesn't prove anything. I'll try it this way: Date: Thursday, May 28, 2009, 2:11:21 PM Subject: send in 24 hours, at about 1410 on thursday ===8==Original message text=== Return-Path: dcor...@fastmail.fm Received: from compute2.internal (compute2.internal [10.202.2.42]) by store20m.internal (Cyrus v2.3.14-fmsvn18904-c7f26adc) with LMTPA; Thu, 28 May 2009 15:14:21 -0400 X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.3 X-Spam-score: 0.0 X-Spam-hits: BAYES_50 0.001, UNPARSEABLE_RELAY 0.001, BAYES_USED global X-Spam-source: IP='192.159.86.1', Host='pop.ink.org', Country='US', FromHeader='fm', MailFrom='fm' X-Spam-charsets: plain='iso-8859-15' X-Resolved-to: dcor...@fastmail.fm X-Mail-from: dcor...@fastmail.fm Received: from web8.internal ([10.202.2.217]) by compute2.internal (LMTPProxy); Thu, 28 May 2009 15:14:21 -0400 Received: from pop.ink.org [192.159.86.1] by messagingengine.com with POP3 for dcor...@fastmail.fm; Thu, 28 May 2009 15:14:21 -0400 X-LinkName: INK Received: from murder ([unix socket]) by aphrodite (Cyrus v2.2.12-Invoca-RPM-2.2.12-9.RHEL4) with LMTPA; Thu, 28 May 2009 14:10:29 -0500 X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.2 Received: from pan.ink.org (pan.ink.org [172.25.14.166]) by smtp2.ink.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD68F7C19F for dcor...@ink.org; Thu, 28 May 2009 14:10:29 -0500 (CDT) X-ASG-Debug-ID: 1243537826-25d003e4-1w5y91 X-Barracuda-URL: http://pan.ink.org:8000/cgi-bin/mark.cgi Received: from out1.smtp.messagingengine.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pan.ink.org (Spam Firewall) with ESMTP id BD68A5BA7CA for dcor...@ink.org; Thu, 28 May 2009 14:10:26 -0500 (CDT) Received: from out1.smtp.messagingengine.com (out1.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.25]) by pan.ink.org with ESMTP id LM4jn5Gg4dOQb1vj for dcor...@ink.org; Thu, 28 May 2009 14:10:26 -0500 (CDT) X-Barracuda-Envelope-From: dcor...@fastmail.fm Received: from compute1.internal (compute1.internal [10.202.2.41]) by out1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A5EB345CAB for dcor...@ink.org; Thu, 28 May 2009 15:10:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from heartbeat1.messagingengine.com ([10.202.2.160]) by compute1.internal (MEProxy); Thu, 28 May 2009 15:10:25 -0400 X-Sasl-enc: MiUDRfXtC35E1CyQB3DW2nuTSKxeUTnHDSVprRd6VdLj 1243537825 Received: from HPwidescreen (ip68-103-140-187.ks.ok.cox.net [68.103.140.187]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 063F53BD9D for dcor...@ink.org; Thu, 28 May 2009 15:10:24 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 14:11:21 -0500 From: Dwight Corrin dcor...@fastmail.fm X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: 1367442651.20090528141...@fastmail.fm To: dcor...@ink.org X-ASG-Orig-Subj: send in 24 hours, at about 1410 on thursday Subject: send in 24 hours, at about 1410 on thursday MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Barracuda-Connect: out1.smtp.messagingengine.com[66.111.4.25] X-Barracuda-Start-Time: 1243537826 X-Barracuda-Virus-Scanned: by accessKansas Spam Firewall at ink.org X-Barracuda-Spam-Score: 0.00 X-Barracuda-Spam-Status: No, SCORE=0.00 using per-user scores of TAG_LEVEL=3.5 QUARANTINE_LEVEL=4.0 KILL_LEVEL=6.0 tests= X-Barracuda-Spam-Report: Code version 3.2, rules version 3.2.1.26970 Rule breakdown below pts rule name description -- -- test used custom setting for 1410 on friday -- Dwight A. Corrin 316.303.9385 phone ahead to fax dcorrin at fastmail.fm photo galleries at http://dcorrin.smugmug.com photo blog at http://dcorrin.aminus3.com http://photos.vfxy.com/photoblogs/5882 Using IMAP with The Bat! 4.1.14.2 (RC2) on Windows Vista version 6,0 (Service Pack 1) Current beta is 4.1.14.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! release date
On Thursday, May 28, 2009, 3:26:28 PM, Alto Speckhardt wrote: No no, landslide progress like this has to be approached very carefully. Only he who moves makes mistakes. Better to sit perfectly still, whatever happens then is not your fault. Better let others move first, and then, in another twenty to thirty years... Rome wasn't built in a day either, you know. It's all for the benefit of the users, don't you see that? well, let's get this on released, so we can start on IMAP! -- Dwight A. Corrin 316.303.9385 phone ahead to fax dcorrin at fastmail.fm photo galleries at http://dcorrin.smugmug.com photo blog at http://dcorrin.aminus3.com http://photos.vfxy.com/photoblogs/5882 Using IMAP with The Bat! 4.1.14.2 (RC2) on Windows Vista version 6,0 (Service Pack 1) Current beta is 4.1.14.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Delayed sending totally broken in this release
On Monday, May 25, 2009, 4:39:58 PM, Rick wrote: Has anyone else noticed that delayed sending seems totally broken in this release? (4.1.14.1) Seems like a fair statement to me. See 1514908674.20090521173...@fastmail.fm -- Dwight A. Corrin 316.303.9385 phone ahead to fax dcorrin at fastmail.fm photo galleries at http://dcorrin.smugmug.com photo blog at http://dcorrin.aminus3.com http://photos.vfxy.com/photoblogs/5882 Using IMAP with The Bat! 4.1.14.1 (RC1) on Windows Vista version 6,0 () Current beta is 4.1.14.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: lost tb as virus
On Friday, May 22, 2009, 1:19:57 AM, Marek Mikus wrote: what antivirus? mcafee -- Dwight A. Corrin 316.303.9385 phone ahead to fax dcorrin at fastmail.fm photo galleries at http://dcorrin.smugmug.com photo blog at http://dcorrin.aminus3.com http://photos.vfxy.com/photoblogs/5882 Using IMAP with The Bat! 4.1.14.1 (RC1) on Windows Vista version 6,0 (Service Pack 1) Current beta is 4.1.14.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: lost tb as virus
On Friday, May 22, 2009, 3:03:25 AM, Paul R. Zwiers wrote: Same here, still using the official latest release of TheBat, no beta. Matter of time before McAfee releases a new new version of the DAT files. They have a reputation to uphold when it comes to false negatives after updating :-) My encounter with their tech support was so absurd, I decided to dump it, and install something else, as they advised. -- Dwight A. Corrin 316.303.9385 phone ahead to fax dcorrin at fastmail.fm photo galleries at http://dcorrin.smugmug.com photo blog at http://dcorrin.aminus3.com http://photos.vfxy.com/photoblogs/5882 Using IMAP with The Bat! 4.1.14.1 (RC1) on Windows Vista version 6,0 (Service Pack 1) Current beta is 4.1.14.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
send timing
This morning, when I installed this release candidate, I sent myself some test messages. Several have been sent early. The one which is supposed to go tomorrow morning at 8 am is still sitting in my outbox, but has also arrived, at 5:17 pm this afternoon, with a creation time of this morning when I made it. I have a couple of others which came too soon and when I went back to check my outbox again to see if they were still there, I noticed a message I recently sent was still sitting in my outbox. (It shouldn't have still been there, but that's a different problem.) It was the only message which didn't have the little clock which I assume is supposed to indicate a message is parked until it's expected send time, and I hit send messages. All the remaining messages waiting on the clock to go were also sent. -- Dwight A. Corrin 316.303.9385 phone ahead to fax dcorrin at fastmail.fm photo galleries at http://dcorrin.smugmug.com photo blog at http://dcorrin.aminus3.com http://photos.vfxy.com/photoblogs/5882 Using IMAP with The Bat! 4.1.14.1 (RC1) on Windows Vista version 6,0 () Current beta is 4.1.14.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.1.11.4 - Filters
On Tuesday, February 24, 2009, 7:00:22 AM, MAU wrote: I think the developers have much more important bugs and issues to address. Like for example IMAP (which, BTW, I don't use at all). Yes, I think that many users are going to be very disappointed, and others are going to move on to being very Pi**ed off, if the is some other frolic such as this before IMAP becomes the focus of development. -- Dwight A. Corrin 316.303.9385 phone ahead to fax dcorrin at fastmail.fm photo galleries at http://dcorrin.smugmug.com photo blog at http://dcorrin.aminus3.com Using IMAP with The Bat! 4.1.11.4 on Windows Vista version 6,0 () Current beta is 4.1.11.4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB and various IMAP Issues
On Saturday, February 7, 2009, 9:26:47 PM, Bob Riley wrote: Are you saying that you, too, use IMAP with your ISP and/or Mail Provider, and you don't see the unable to send mail body due to processing error message and/or the queuing problem? I have never seen this error. I have been using fastmail and imap for all my email since June, 2005. -- Dwight A. Corrin 316.303.9385 phone ahead to fax dcorrin at fastmail.fm photo galleries at http://dcorrin.smugmug.com photo blog at http://dcorrin.aminus3.com Using IMAP with The Bat! 4.1.11.2 on Windows Vista version 6,0 () Current beta is 4.1.11.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: TB 4.1.3: Just a Test, please ignore
On Sunday, December 21, 2008, 12:20:09 PM, Bob Riley wrote: If anyone here has used Fastmail, what has your experience with it been? I have been on fastmail for quite a while now. I am very pleased with it. And I certainly wouldn't ever want to go back to POP. The closest to a complaint I have about fastmail is the fact that their web access does not include threading. They are in beta testing of a new interface now, and I wrote to ask about threading. The response acknowledged that some users had requested it, but that it wasn't in the cards with this upgrade. I have been very pleased with their filtering, and I hardly use TB! filters at all any more. -- Dwight A. Corrin 316.303.9385 phone ahead to fax dcorrin at fastmail.fm photo galleries at http://dcorrin.smugmug.com photo blog at http://dcorrin.aminus3.com Using IMAP with The Bat! 4.1.3 on Windows Vista version 6,0 () Current beta is 4.1.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: IMAP queue fix
On Sunday, December 21, 2008, 4:30:24 PM, Stuart Cuddy wrote: A couple of days ago a version was released that made a change that was supposed to help the queue from freezing in IMAP. I don't have the original message here at work, so I forget which version it was. However, we were asked to see if the message queue was helped by the change. With this current version which I have been using for 2 days, I have not seen any freezes, so hopefully it has helped. On vista now, I am not getting updates on the number of unread messages. I've resorted to restarting, so I know where to look. -- Dwight A. Corrin 316.303.9385 phone ahead to fax dcorrin at fastmail.fm photo galleries at http://dcorrin.smugmug.com photo blog at http://dcorrin.aminus3.com Using IMAP with The Bat! 4.1.3 on Windows Vista version 6,0 () Current beta is 4.1.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.1 release MSIs
On Saturday, December 20, 2008, 9:31:37 AM, Maxim Masiutin wrote: Please test the 4.1 release MSIs which we are going to release on Tuesday. http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_pro_4-1-3.msi I locked up when I clicked launch and closed the install window. I had thebat and thebat splash both 'not responding' in the task manager. I tried to end task on thebat first, to no avail. Only by end task on the splash did it close down. It seem to be running fine now. -- Dwight A. Corrin 316.303.9385 phone ahead to fax dcorrin at fastmail.fm photo galleries at http://dcorrin.smugmug.com photo blog at http://dcorrin.aminus3.com Using IMAP with The Bat! 4.1.3 on Windows Vista version 6,0 () Current beta is 4.1.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
