Re: confirming Vista issues
On 1/10/2008, Marek wrote: Vista: all options for associations are disabled, but button Associate now stays enabled Confirmed. All association options are were enabled until I put check marks in them and hit Associate Now. Brought the Preferences dialog box back up and they were then all disabled with check marks. Date/Time section in Preferences dialog has empty fields after installation on Vista Confirmed. Protection section in Preferences dialog has empty fields after installation on Vista Confirmed. -- :R. FUNERAL'S OVER LET'S EAT Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Imap
On 1/3/2008, Gleason wrote: Actually, what I see is that not one email client developer has done a good complete job of implementing Imap, as easy as you say it is. TB has come closest. Actually, this is not correct. Mulberry is by far the best, most complete, and most capable IMAP client. Unfortunately, it has an outdated GUI and complex configuration. I, personally, have fairly good luck with TB's IMAP but I do everything server-side. My complaints about IMAP, however, are reflected by most everyone else's: odd message counts, improper display of deleted messages, and so forth. I will not, however, buy the next version of TB until it has proven IMAP improvements. -- :R. Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Imap
On 1/3/2008, Gleason wrote: For me, complete includes things that Mulberry does not do, such as better than primitive html/graphics handling, notes attached to messages. And Mulberry does have performance issues too. No, MB doesn't make the cut. The issues you point out have nothing to do with its ability to handle IMAP (and, as far as I know, the performance issues stem mainly from not being multithreaded but I could be wrong on that). In strictly discussing which e-mail client has the best IMAP handling, Mulberry is it. If you expand it to include a host of other things, such as what you've mentioned, then, you're right, MB doesn't make the cut. It's those reasons why I, too, no longer use Mulberry. TB's IMAP may be lacking but it makes up for it in a ton of other ways and, like most people, I keep my fingers crossed that one day IMAP will be truly addressed in The Bat!. -- :R. Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Wish: Adding contact's photo to MailTicker
--On Monday, May 21, 2007 4:55 AM, Marek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: AFAIK adding image to MailTicker must be simplier than implementing Gecko and let me use Your comparison - The Bat! is email client and not web browser. This is not a reasonable argument. The Bat! isn't a web browser but, unfortunately, a lot of people like to treat the e-mail they send as web pages which forces mail clients to implement, at the very least, a rudimentary HTML display system (which The Bat! has). This is far from a full-fledged browser and thankfully so. Now, having said that, I like eye candy and little pictures of contacts (or even a customizable icon symbol to immediately show which account an e-mail was sent to) is kind of neat. But, let's let Ritlabs finish making IMAP stable. I *still* have to restart The Bat! several times a day because the IMAP queue gets stuck. -- :R. pgpZmcCQScHw5.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.99.07 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Unusual quite
--On Wednesday, May 02, 2007 6:33 AM, Maggie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: EC It's too quite for a beta ML Maybe it's finally perfect? You don't use IMAP, do you? -- :R. pgpGwSWjQVrIo.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.99.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: IMAP fixes
--On Friday, April 13, 2007 6:04 AM, Joe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have commented on a few of the bugs but gave up on the release because it seems like they never work on these issues. Hey, but at least they gave us new emoticons. That's... uh... good, isn't it? I for one will not pay for another release to see if they fixed the bugs. Another person commented here that outlook, netscape and other email clients all seem to work fine with IMAP. Neither will I. When I saw Maxim's comment that they're holding off until the next version to fix IMAP bugs because fixing them would break too many other parts of the application (hey, guys, ever heard of something called encapsulation?), I decided that this was it for me for The Bat!. Cyrus will be releasing the Mulberry source code into the wild soon so I plan on building my own mail application around it. I had to build my own feed reader since I couldn't find one that I liked well enough so I guess I'll do the same for this. That's too bad because The Bat! has so much potential to be the best but the developers just refuse to let it get there. -- :R. pgpiaRdxApghN.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.98.11 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! 3.98.11
--On Thursday, April 12, 2007 6:37 AM, MAU [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No Deleted (in this folder) Tab Waaa!:D But that's not a bug, it's a wish :) It might be a wish but it's a really, really good one (although I'd still prefer the more IMAP-centric option of crossing out e-mail in the regular views). I also wouldn't mind seeing folder-specific tabs. Oh, and since we're speaking of what are apparently wishes and not bugs: how about some IMAP stuff? I'm still getting the hung queue issue which requires me to restart The Bat! constantly on my wireless connection. -- :A. pgpggeFsB1aa5.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.98.11 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 3.98.7
--On Friday, March 23, 2007 9:09 AM, Maxim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 3.98.7 is available... ...and still has the IMAP queue freeze issue which causes me to have to quit and restart The Bat! many times a day as network connectivity is lost. -- :R. pgp7rYkdWgkfV.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.98.07 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: IMAP - queue freezing
--On Thursday, March 22, 2007 8:57 AM, Mike [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ...are there others having IMAP issues that are not Fastmail users, or more to the point, have IMAP providers using something other than Cyrus for their IMAP server. I'm a Tuffmail user and I do believe John runs Cyrus. I've been experiencing the same problems. -- :R. pgpjlIntRGNwE.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.98.06 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.98.06
--On Monday, March 12, 2007 9:38 AM, Maxim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tbb39806.rar Seems to be running as usual but it still doesn't address bug #0006274: On a regular basis I have processes freezing in the queue. Sometimes if I delete the top frozen process the rest will proceed, but other times I have to Disconnect and then reconnect. Sometimes I have to restart TB! completely. Note: This also happens in 3.98.04 and has been happening for some time. Thanks. -- :R. Current beta is 3.98.06 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! hang at startup under Windows Vista
--On Tuesday, March 13, 2007 12:42 PM, Maxim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can anybody confim that The Bat! hangs with 50% CPU utilization when you run The Bat! under Windows Vista in 3.98.06? Cannot confirm on Vista Business. Seems to be running very well (except for the IMAP queue freeze when the wireless connection is lost). -- :R. Current beta is 3.98.06 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: IMAP - Freezing Processes
--On Sunday, March 04, 2007 12:06 PM, Stuart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In recent versions IMAP is getting worse. As you mention message counts and not downloading new messages seems to be getting worse. I think some of it relates to this freezing of the queue. I've been experiencing these issues as well. I notice it mainly when The Bat! loses its network connection (such as when I put my laptop to sleep and then wake it up again). Deleting the task from the queue doesn't fix it, however; each time, I have to restart The Bat! to get it to start working again. It started a few versions ago, although I'm not sure precisely which because it took me awhile to pinpoint what was happening. I keep Mulberry around to pick up The Bat!'s IMAP slack. -- :R. pgpKtKjaLqf18.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.98.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: IMAP - Freezing Processes
--On Sunday, March 04, 2007 12:30 PM, Stuart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just made a change to the number of connections allowed, I changed it to 6 from 4 and so far no problems. Have you tried recently to run the Test for multiple connections. It does not seem to work for me at all. Good find. I didn't even think about that but, you're right, the Test button does absolutely nothing. I had my number of connections at 4 and I've dropped it to 2. We'll have to see if that helps or not. It's obvious, though, that the only thing that'll really help this issue is to fix the bug that was introduced a few weeks ago. -- :R. pgpiTbWyEYjF3.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.98.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: RSS option
--On Sunday, March 04, 2007 2:01 PM, Ian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have to say that from my point of view, I would like to have The Bat! have all its current features work properly BEFORE anything else is added. I fully agree with this sentiment but I also would like to add that I haven't liked the trend of producing all-inclusive software since ICQ and Netscape started doing it back in the late 90s. It's worse now that everyone on the planet seems to think that adding RSS feed capability is an easy value-add but that leads to the issue that, well, now nearly every program on my computer tries to choke me to death with RSS feeds. I'm fully expecting the next version of my preferred disk defragmenting tool to start offering RSS feeds as well. Anyway, feeds are supposed to be lightweight so I never understood the need to burden them with complex management tools (which is why I wrote my own very minimalistic app called FeedLynx that has a list of items in the order that they were received, grouped by source which is in turn grouped by category, viewable with a built-in browser that allows me to bookmark interesting topics rather than retain their RSS item source, and nothing else). Besides, what's wrong at having a series of programs each doing what it does best? I suppose it's a matter of convenience to have to only pay attention to one systray icon rather than several but that's something I'm willing to give up for having the best tool for each job. So, if I can vote negatively on adding RSS feeds to The Bat! any moreso than I have, let me know. I'm pretty good at totally derailing a mailing list thread with a paragraph or two of personal bias. -- :R. pgpjMtDMS6M1w.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.98.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: using the spacebar to jump to the next unread message
--On Monday, February 12, 2007 9:34 AM, Alexander [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not using spacebar reading but wouldn't this be the setting in Options / Preferences / Messages, tickbox allow searching for new messages across acounts (or something)? Maybe it behaves differently with spacebar reading, I don't know... Actually, as far as I know, there is no way to turn this feature off. Options/Preferences/Messages refers to SmartReading but it only adjusts how it works. This is unfortunate as I receive some HTML mail that allows me to update a web site remotely via a text box but, even within the text box, the spacebar causes The Bat! to continue on to the next message. Currently, I have to log in each time I need to make an update and it's quite irritating. Is there some way to turn this off or, better yet, disable it while the cursor is currently in a text box? -- :R. pgp65x0YU1UfY.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.96.04 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Lost Registration Key/CIFNet Issues
Hi all, I've lost my registration key and I've been referred to CIFNet's comment submission form to get it back but it errors out with 'Insufficient permissions to create new topics in this forum. Error creating a new message.' Anyone have any ideas of how I can get this taken care of before my registration period ends? -- Thanks, :R. pgpx5lygvdtWY.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.96.04 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: IMAP in 3.95.08 (was: Re: 3.95.08)
--On Wednesday, January 17, 2007 10:49 PM, Eugene [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I guess Randy uses Sieve: Right, yes, I do. I prefer doing it this way because it ensures that my messages will be filtered as I like it regardless of how I access my mail. Thanks for adding the links, by the way. -- :R. Current beta is 3.95.08 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3-95-08.ms
--On Thursday, January 18, 2007 4:14 PM, R.Morris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As we say here in The South=GET IT DONE!! ONE MAD TEXAN! This is my favorite e-mail ever to appear on this list. -- :R. pgpc60LdhnEdi.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.95.08 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: IMAP in 3.95.08 (was: Re: 3.95.08)
--On Wednesday, January 17, 2007 6:09 AM, Stuart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I do think it depends a lot on the server you are connecting to as I have very little problem with fastmail, but considerable more problems with Gearhost. But then again I have more problems with my POP accounts at Gearhost as well. I've returned to The Bat! after frustrations with an endless number of issues with IMAP, from messages not loading to counts being off to there always being duplicates to the slow speed. After spending the last year with Mulberry, I decided to give The Bat! another spin. So my opinion comes from having been away from it for so long and I have to say that The Bat!'s IMAP handling is far superior in all ways to what it was. It still has a long way to go (e.g., it STILL will sometimes show 2 unread messages when there is just 1) but the speed is great when used with Tuffmail. It's still no Mulberry, of course, but The Bat! has come a long, long way. -- :R. pgpnu8Yibbdxp.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.95.08 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: IMAP in 3.95.08 (was: Re: 3.95.08)
--On Wednesday, January 17, 2007 8:17 AM, Alexander [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What bothers me most is the slow filter performance compared to Thunderbird and Mulberry. Ah, that is something that I can't comment on since I do 100% of my filtering at the server. -- :R. pgpLgIS249eYp.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.95.08 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: IMAP in 3.95.08 (was: Re: 3.95.08)
--On Wednesday, January 17, 2007 8:17 AM, Stuart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have never used Mulberry, but I understand it was built from the ground up to be IMAP and doesn't have the same capabilities as TB! That's one of Mulberry's strengths is that it was built specifically for IMAP (although I hear that it does POP3 very well, too). Because of this specialization, it pretty much can't be beat when it comes to hardcore IMAP usage. Many people don't like it, however, due to the fact that the interface is, well, rather outdated (although incredibly intuitive once you learn how to, uh, intuit it). I'd stick with Mulberry if it wasn't for the fact that I like the look-and-feel of The Bat! better. Plus The Bat! has a number of features that Mulberry doesn't. -- :R. pgpeS4I5tDzAA.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.95.08 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[4]: IMAP - Latest Theory on duplicates
Hello. Here's what Terry [EMAIL PROTECTED] typed on Wednesday, February 01, 2006: I unfortunately have to take back my confirmation. I've just got numerous triplicates for several messages. It was nice while it lasted. I've only had duplicates happen once in my Inbox. Switching away from the Inbox and back to it took care of it, however. They're getting closer... -- :R It's time to pay the price. pgpqJB4FhAi8w.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.70.06 quot;Qigongquot; | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Folder Refresh Issue
Sorry if this has been covered before but I've noticed that when new messages appear in the currently opened folder, I have to navigate to another folder and then back again before the message list updates. Is this an issue with The Bat! or am I just missing a keystroke? Thanks. -- :R. Hammerdog is a dog made of hammers. pgpKcvurPOO5s.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.70.06 quot;Qigongquot; | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: Folder Refresh Issue
Hello. Here's what Roelof [EMAIL PROTECTED] typed on Wednesday, February 01, 2006: Are you on IMAP? Yes I am and I've noticed that it's inconsistent. I think maybe The Bat! is taking its time between when the folder count updates and the message list updates... -- :R Hammerdog is a dog made of hammers. pgpqi4erwexus.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.70.06 quot;Qigongquot; | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.65.03 - IMAP
Hello. Here's what Clive [EMAIL PROTECTED] typed on Tuesday, January 17, 2006 06:30 +: The reality is that I don't think anyone IS interested any more. The majority of serious IMAP users seem to have vanished from this list and Ritlabs has not carried through its promise to concentrate on IMAP issues. Yep. I went back to Mulberry. I check this list every few weeks to see that nothing has changed. I won't go back to The Bat! until they completely re-write IMAP from scratch... wait, what am I talking about? -- :R pgp6fBpeRuZbX.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.65.04 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Re[2]: Drafts folder - what's the point?
Hello. Here's what Curtis [EMAIL PROTECTED] typed on Friday, December 16, 2005 18:33 -0500 wrote: Well, here I am, using Mulberry while feeling the same way some time ago. I'm back to Mulberry too and I doubt I'll be returning to the Bat!. Although it has some things I really like (such as the text editor and the templates), it simply can't beat Mulberry as far as IMAP is concerned. Maybe I'll give it a shot again at next release. But this on-going never-actually-fix-anything beta cycle is tiring. -- :R pgpSVn7l1JNuG.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.63.13 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: IMAP - v3.63.09 Duplication
Hello. Here's what Jonathan [EMAIL PROTECTED] typed on Monday, December 12, 2005 at 7:00:02 AM: I can confirm this. Seems to happen more on Inbox than anything else. This has been my experience as well. -- :R. It's time to pay the price. pgpQLkq3H4Hfm.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.63.09 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.63.08 (Beta) is now available
Hello. Here's what Den [EMAIL PROTECTED] typed on Friday, December 9, 2005 at 2:35:36 AM: Hello. KK On 05-12-07 (16:45), you wrote: [-] IMAP: duplication problem KK Not confirmed - here: Imap/Exchange - every refresh of folder makes KK duplictaes of last fetched messages. KK Best regards, Krzysztof Kudlacik confirmed. not working. Also confirmed here as well. Using the Bat with Tuffmail (Cyrus IMAP). The overall counts are way off as well: it claims I have over 50,000 messages where my subscribed folders are probably closer to 15,000. It's possibly counting all folders and not just subbed ones. -- :R. How am I supposed to enjoy this with you crying? pgpQK6dhTlJED.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.63.08 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: IMAP duplicate message problem (was: Re: The Bat! 3.63.06 (Beta) is now available)
--On Wednesday, November 30, 2005 19:34 -0500 Curtis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I did have the mail duplication problem with this TBBETA mailing list folder of mine. However, I deleted the cache, let it rebuild and the duplication is gone. I tried this but the duplication issue actually got worse. In some cases, I'm seeing four messages for each one. I'm giving up until they get this sorted out; it's back to Mulberry for me. BTW, I think it might be a Cyrus vs. Courier issue. I'm using Tuffmail who uses Cyrus and it looks like the Cyrus people are the ones seeing the duplications. -- :R. Current beta is 3.63.06 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: IMAP duplicate message problem (was: Re: The Bat! 3.63.06 (Beta) is now available)
--On Friday, December 02, 2005 12:57 -0600 Gary [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The problem, as it always has been (except for a few betas), is the client, not the server. What I mean is not that it's the server's fault, it's how The Bat! is dealing with either one. -- :R. Current beta is 3.63.06 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: IMAP duplicate message problem (was: Re: The Bat! 3.63.06 (Beta) is now available)
--On Friday, December 02, 2005 21:05 +0200 Vilius Sumskas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, I'm using Cyrus without a problems. How many connections do you have set in TB! to check mail? I've tried from 1-5 with varying success. Sometimes it'll work fine for awhile and then it'll begin to get progressively worse. -- :R. Current beta is 3.63.06 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Test, please ignore
Hello. Here's what George [EMAIL PROTECTED] typed on Friday, November 25, 2005 at 11:46:12 AM: I moved my lists to gmail and i want to make sure that all things work. Sorry but that test was just too good to ignore. -- :R. I like my milk like I like my Helvetica: condensed. pgpqattZu9kbi.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.63.05 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! Beta 3.63.05
Hello. Here's what Maxim [EMAIL PROTECTED] typed on Thursday, November 24, 2005 at 9:41:27 AM: Hello Tbbeta, http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tbb36305.rar For some reason, I had to do a backup of my account settings and then restore them in this version. That's something I've never had to do before. Also, when the IMAP queue is active, the CPU spikes. -- :R. It's a secret to everybody. pgpbjPgvPpAB5.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! Beta 3.63.05
Hello. Here's what Vilius [EMAIL PROTECTED] typed on Thursday, November 24, 2005 at 12:47:10 PM: Also, when the IMAP queue is active, the CPU spikes. New IMAP queue is much better than previous one. Maybe at last i'll get REAL IMAP client. Actually, I discovered that a handful of folders had their synchronization switch flipped on. After disabling them again, the CPU usage is normal again. I'm impressed with the new IMAP queue so far. -- :R. TINA, COME GET SOME HAM. pgp8yay6egFZ0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.63.05 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: IMAP - viewing deleted messages, a suggestion
Hello. Here's what Dwight [EMAIL PROTECTED] typed on Wednesday, November 2, 2005 at 2:27:05 PM: I recall participating in some conversation wishing that deleted messages were displayed, as in Mulberry. Perhaps another possibility would be a folder tab which showed deleted messages? I would much prefer deleted messages to appear crossed out until I expunge the folder. -- :R. Toast goes in the toaster. pgp5Z1OaeL4R6.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.62.09 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Unable to Import PGP Keys
Hello. Here's what Tony [EMAIL PROTECTED] typed on Sunday, October 30, 2005 at 2:02:01 AM: You ask for help and then question it when you get it. Strangely enough, I do. I don't blindly accept everything told to me especially when it doesn't make sense with my personal experience. -- :R. YOU ARE FULL OF BOMBS AND/OR KEYS. pgpnh9MTOq6RK.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.62.07 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Unable to Import PGP Keys
Hello. Here's what Curtis [EMAIL PROTECTED] typed on Sunday, October 30, 2005 at 4:27:40 AM: The internal implementation is based on PGP v2.x. That very early version doesn't support the key types used by a lot of PGP users. Neither does it support some of the algorithms currently used by some of us. This is the likely reason why you're having problems importing keys. I'd suggest installing GnuPG and trying that one. Thanks for the details. Not to drag this off-topic but Tony suggested PGP. With The Bat!, is there any benefit for using one over the other? -- :R. It's time to pay the price. pgp6w8JIBYGwc.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.62.07 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Unable to Import PGP Keys
Hello. Here's what Tony [EMAIL PROTECTED] typed on Sunday, October 30, 2005 at 9:42:45 AM: So in your personal experience PGP doesn't need to be installed before you can use it? I never wrote that. I wrote that everything appeared to work except the importing of keys. The Bat! has a built-in implementation that Curtis helpfully pointed out was out-of-date and suggested a solution. Is this unnecessarily argumentative sub-thread really worth pursuing for you? -- :R. Toast goes in the toaster. pgpWEC70UJrZX.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.62.07 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Unable to Import PGP Keys
Hello. Here's what Tony [EMAIL PROTECTED] typed on Sunday, October 30, 2005 at 10:04:22 AM: Not really, I don't even use TB so I sure as hell don't give a damn about weather you get PGP working or not. Especially when you question and dismiss the advise people do give you. That's the spirit! -- :R. Toast goes in the toaster. pgpuNQPlyOt1Y.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.62.07 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Unable to Import PGP Keys
Hello. Here's what Tony [EMAIL PROTECTED] typed on Sunday, October 30, 2005 at 11:15:34 AM: Toast goes in the toaster. Bread goes in the toaster, toast is what comes out. Not to get off-topic (which, well, I am), my friends have gotten into amusing alcohol-fueled philosophical discussions over that statement such as whether bread can be considered pre-toasted toast considering that becoming toast is the bread's destiny once it is being placed into the toaster, etc. -- :R. How am I supposed to enjoy this with you crying? Current beta is 3.62.07 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Unable to Import PGP Keys
Hello. Here's what Curtis [EMAIL PROTECTED] typed on Sunday, October 30, 2005 at 2:35:09 PM: OTOH, GnuPG and GPGShell (Win32 frontend) make for a nice solution that entails a harmless installation routine which you never have to worry about compromising your systems integrity. GnuPG is VERY quick and integrates quite well with TB!. It's possible to have both running on the same system, so you could try both and make your decision. I installed PGP Desktop 9.0.2 and immediately ran into a plethora of issues including, but not limited to, the complete loss of network connectivity for everything except e-mail. I figured that didn't bode well so I uninstalled and went with GnuPG which, as you've described, works well so far. Thank you very much for your help. -- :R. It's like drinking a meatloaf. pgpfyHQHq4rUE.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.62.07 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Unable to Import PGP Keys
Hello. Here's what Randy [EMAIL PROTECTED] typed on Friday, October 28, 2005 at 10:52:00 AM: I'm using the current final release but I am unable to import any PGP keys. Whether I try to import from a text file or from the 'Import OpenPGP Public Key' button, the key never appears in my Key Manager. Has anyone else experienced this? Is no one else is having this issue? I'd really appreciate some help if you can. Thanks. -- :R. Hammerdog is a dog made of hammers. pgp0Ggeg4IYiz.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.62.05 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Unable to Import PGP Keys
Hello. Here's what Henk [EMAIL PROTECTED] typed on Saturday, October 29, 2005 at 11:36:38 AM: Which program are you using next to The Bat! PGP or GnuPG? I'm using The Bat!'s internal OpenPGP implementation. -- :R. It's like drinking a meatloaf. pgpIoT0K0pEee.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.62.05 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Unable to Import PGP Keys
Hello. Here's what Randy [EMAIL PROTECTED] typed on Friday, October 28, 2005 at 10:52:00 AM: I'm using the current final release but I am unable to import any PGP keys. Whether I try to import from a text file or from the 'Import OpenPGP Public Key' button, the key never appears in my Key Manager. Has anyone else experienced this? I'm also seeing incorrect characters in the attached dialogue box (possibly a Unicode issue?). -- :R. It's time to pay the price. example.png Description: PNG image pgpyHH8yOn3xJ.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.62.05 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Unable to Import PGP Keys
Hello. Here's what Henk [EMAIL PROTECTED] typed on Saturday, October 29, 2005 at 12:24:11 PM: I'm using The Bat!'s internal OpenPGP implementation. AFAIK that is not enough. You have to install a version of PGP or GPG to get it to work. For Key Manager The Bat! uses PGP or GPG. Are you sure? Everything else appears to work. -- :R. It's a secret to everybody. pgpjPkd80QwxY.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.62.05 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Unable to Import PGP Keys
Hello. Here's what Vili [EMAIL PROTECTED] typed on Saturday, October 29, 2005 at 12:29:32 PM: I'm also seeing incorrect characters in the attached dialogue box (possibly a Unicode issue?). In which menu did you find this? How can I see this screen? On any signed message there is an icon in the header bar on the far-right that you can click to verify the signature. Check out the attachment. -- :R. It's a secret to everybody. example.png Description: PNG image pgpsJaiqF3Ggr.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.62.05 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Build 3.62 released
Hello. Here's what Richard [EMAIL PROTECTED] typed on Friday, October 28, 2005 at 10:36:42 AM: After all, there weren't many problems with 3.6201 beta. No one saw a 3.6202 beta. Just about everyone had problems with AV and exiting errors with the 3.6203 beta. And then no one asked us to test the msi of what is release 3.62.05. But then we don't get paid for our input and perhaps how it is valued by RIT . . . and it is Friday! :-) If nothing else, the .05 final is definitely better than .03 which pretty much crashed every few minutes. Guess that's something. -- :R. How am I supposed to enjoy this with you crying? pgpayJ4Ez2esB.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.62.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Unable to Import PGP Keys
I'm using the current final release but I am unable to import any PGP keys. Whether I try to import from a text file or from the 'Import OpenPGP Public Key' button, the key never appears in my Key Manager. Has anyone else experienced this? -- :R. TINA, COME GET SOME HAM. pgpDl7tA807ag.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.62.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
'Watched By Folders' and Notification Control
A couple of questions: 1. What does the 'Watched By' feature do? 2. Is there any way to mark folders so that they do not cause the Bat! to notify me of new mail? I ask this because I receive RSS feeds via IMAP and do not need or want to know when new items arrive; I'm only interested in my actual e-mail folders notifying me of new messages. Thanks! -- :R. I like my milk like I like my Helvetica: condensed. pgpK4eqVcqxoW.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.61.12 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 'Watched By Folders' and Notification Control
Hello. Here's what Curtis [EMAIL PROTECTED] typed on Thursday, October 13, 2005 at 3:25:07 PM: TB! offers sound notification at three levels. I should've been more clear. I meant visual notification. I don't always have sound turned on, especially when I'm at work. When I have the MailTicker enabled, I only have it enabled for the Inbox. What I'd like to be able to do is control which folders prompt the system tray icon to animate. -- :R. It's time to pay the price. pgpKKC5huLCSy.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.61.12 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
A Few Questions
I'm fairly new to The Bat! (I'm testing it for possible use after the demise of Mulberry) and I have a couple of questions: 1. In the IMAP Fine-Tune dialog, what does 'Auto-filtering' mean? I dug around the help file and the FAQ but came up with nothing. 2. Is there any way to make PGP/MIME always stay on? It has three options (Auto, On, Off) but I can't find a way to make them stick. I've tried this with the last stable release and with the 3.61.11 beta. Thanks! -- :R. Hammerdog is a dog made of hammers. Current beta is 3.61.11 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
