Re: test gmail retr
Hæ! Monday, November 22, 2004, 12:45, George M. Menegakis wrote: By the way, each time I check GMAIL for new email a popup informs me that: It does not appear on my machine. What settings are you using? -- Kveðja, Thorvald Neumann | http://www.aesir.de/ | The Bat! v3.0.2.7 Professional K9 v1.28 | Windows 2000 SP4 (v5.0.2195) +---+ | Get Firefox - Take back the web! | | http://www.spreadfirefox.com/?q=affiliatesamp;id=22411amp;t=1 | +---+ Current beta is 3.0.2.7 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: test gmail retr
Hæ! Monday, November 22, 2004, 14:14, George M. Menegakis wrote: Mail server: pop.gmail.com Connection: Secure to dedicated port (TLS) port 995 Yes, the same as my settings. My log says: 22.11.2004, 14:30:03: FETCH - Initiating TLS handshake 22.11.2004, 14:30:03: FETCH - Certificate S/N: 3E9C89, algorithm: RSA (2048 bits), issued from 16 Sep 2004 to 16 Sep 2005, for 1 host(s): pop.gmail.com. 22.11.2004, 14:30:03: FETCH - Owner: US, California, Mountain View, Google Inc, pop.gmail.com. 22.11.2004, 14:30:03: FETCH - Issuer: ZA, Western Cape, Cape Town, Thawte Consulting cc, Certification Services Division, Thawte Server CA, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 22.11.2004, 14:30:04: FETCH - TLS handshake complete 22.11.2004, 14:30:04: FETCH - connected to POP3 server 22.11.2004, 14:30:04: FETCH - authenticated (plain) By using %THEBATVERSION you get 3.0.2.7 or 3.0.2.7 Professional ? Just 3.0.2.7; but I have a Professional license. ;) -- Kveðja, Thorvald Neumann | http://www.aesir.de/ | The Bat! v3.0.2.7 Professional K9 v1.28 | Windows 2000 SP4 (v5.0.2195) +---+ | Get Firefox - Take back the web! | | http://www.spreadfirefox.com/?q=affiliatesamp;id=22411amp;t=1 | +---+ Current beta is 3.0.2.7 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: test gmail retr
Hæ! Monday, November 22, 2004, 14:34, George M. Menegakis wrote: So it appears that I don't have gmail's popper certificate installed. The question is, where could I find it? I did not install any certificate... -- Kveðja, Thorvald Neumann | http://www.aesir.de/ | The Bat! v3.0.2.7 Professional K9 v1.28 | Windows 2000 SP4 (v5.0.2195) +---+ | Get Firefox - Take back the web! | | http://www.spreadfirefox.com/?q=affiliatesamp;id=22411amp;t=1 | +---+ Current beta is 3.0.2.7 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: test gmail retr
Hello George! On Monday, November 22, 2004 at 3:03:55 PM you wrote: And Bat appears to be the only mail program on my system which has problems with gmail. Outlook, Outlook Express and Thunderbird make no complains about the issuer of the certificate. Looks like TB does the right thing ... Only bat doesn't like google. Does anybody have an idea or should I abandon Bat for reading gmail ? ... but it would be good if there's an option to always accept the wrong certificate, i.e. by installing it (as Opera - most of the times - offers). -- Dierk Haasis :Dierk: Copy 'n' Concept The Bat 3.0.2.7 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Chat info for ICQ, AIM, MSN, Yahoo, Jabber upon request Wenn ich nicht Anti-Kommunist wäre, würde ich sofort Kommunist werden! (Aleks Papst) Current beta is 3.0.2.7 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: test gmail retr
Hello George, A reminder of what George M. Menegakis on TBBETA typed on: 22 November 2004 at 16:03:55 GMT +0200 Only bat doesn't like google. Does anybody have an idea or should I abandon Bat for reading gmail ? Why? The Bat! is perfect for G-Mail. Your problem, look in your address book and see if you have the Trusted Root CA there or did you delete it? -- Best regards,Tony. _ Message composed on 22/11/2004 at 14:31 UTC 2004 - AWB Using The Bat! v3.0.2.7 on Windows XP 5. 1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.0.2.7 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: test gmail retr
Hi George, On 22 Nov 2004 16:03:55 (my local time 15:03:55), George M. Menegakis wrote: GMM Only bat doesn't like google. Does anybody have an idea or should GMM I abandon Bat for reading gmail ? I've been having the same problem with gmx, and here is the problem: the addressbooks containing certificates are out of date. Solution: get the latest one... How I've done this: * backup everything except root intermediate addressbooks * uninstall while keeping mail * delete 'rootca.abd' and 'intermca.abd' * reinstall * restore Haven't found a simpler way to do this yet, so I'll save you the trouble, you'll find them here: http://www.roeleboel.com/thebat (files are from the 3.0.1.33 msi professional installer - md5 included) hth! -- Der Immer Jodelende Schweizer In Lederhosen Roel running TheBat! 3.0.1.33 on Windows XP Service Pack 2 Normal people: if it ain't broke, don't fix it. Engineers: if it ain't broke, it doesn't have enough features yet. Current beta is 3.0.2.7 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: test gmail retr
Hæ! Monday, November 22, 2004, 15:06, Stuart Cuddy wrote: Just wondering why your reply to George contains TBUDL in the To: header as well as the tbbeta address, when it was originally from tbbeta. I guess I did to much CP over the last days... ;) Should be correct now... -- Kveðja, Thorvald Neumann | http://www.aesir.de/ | The Bat! v3.0.2.7 Professional K9 v1.28 | Windows 2000 SP4 (v5.0.2195) +---+ | Get Firefox - Take back the web! | | http://www.spreadfirefox.com/?q=affiliatesamp;id=22411amp;t=1 | +---+ Current beta is 3.0.2.7 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: test gmail retr
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello thn, A reminder of what thn on TBBETA typed on: 19 November 2004 at 08:17:58 GMT +0100 What I do not like is Gmail obviously filters my emails to the list, so that I do not receive a copy of my mails. :( Quite annoying. Glad you noticed. I'm in deep dispute with them at the moment. I got a reply from an actual person last night spinning me a load of twaddle he obviously copied off the FAQ pages. But more about that on TBOT when my eyes are less bleary. - -- Best regards,Tony. _ Message composed on 19/11/2004 at 07:49 UTC 2004 - AWB Using The Bat! v3.0.2.7 on Windows XP 5. 1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.5 Turbo Diesel Injection Land Rover Defender 110 iQA/AwUBQZ2n6tanuJ+T+uXWEQLc4QCfZhIsAaB7zu9lh4ZTdQa43uAP28QAnirb bEPlWc//4iUfE2NGB9KemO89 =SDzU -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current beta is 3.0.2.7 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
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Hæ! Friday, November 19, 2004, 08:59, Tony Boom wrote: But more about that on TBOT when my eyes are less bleary. I am not on TBOT. I guess I just change back to the GMX account. -- Kveðja, Thorvald Neumann | http://www.aesir.de/ | The Bat! v3.0.2.6 Professional PopFile v0.22.0 | Windows 2000 SP4 (v5.0.2195) +---+ | Get Firefox - Take back the web! | | http://www.spreadfirefox.com/?q=affiliatesamp;id=22411amp;t=1 | +---+ Current beta is 3.0.2.7 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: test gmail retr
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello thn, A reminder of what thn on TBBETA typed on: 19 November 2004 at 10:13:15 GMT +0100 I am not on TBOT. I guess I just change back to the GMX account. No, get yourself over to TBOT, you don't know what your missing, it can be great fun over there. There's a lot less chance of getting a slimy earole as well. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tbot/ - -- Best regards,Tony. _ Message composed on 19/11/2004 at 09:16 UTC 2004 - AWB Using The Bat! v3.0.2.7 on Windows XP 5. 1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.5 Turbo Diesel Injection Land Rover Defender 110 iQA/AwUBQZ27K9anuJ+T+uXWEQKoYACgxwXKBYFf4Xrp4mYe0Fny77uihjgAnjEX YSi9lEtxmuX50ZascucEcUQ5 =kZzV -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current beta is 3.0.2.7 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Tony, A reminder of what Tony Boom on TBBETA typed on: 19 November 2004 at 09:21:47 GMT + http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tbot/ Forgot to say, if you don't want to subscribe you can still read the posts from the link I sent. G-Mail drivel is the post I sent with my reply to their explanation for censorship. - -- Best regards,Tony. _ Message composed on 19/11/2004 at 09:24 UTC 2004 - AWB Using The Bat! v3.0.2.7 on Windows XP 5. 1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.5 Turbo Diesel Injection Land Rover Defender 110 iQA/AwUBQZ28NtanuJ+T+uXWEQLPlwCfa7ek1jCMsbLlqAX6jYq34Rr+yToAoMho 5tqCYsOhy5kaYsfxFwXkn9TB =h/mK -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current beta is 3.0.2.7 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
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Hæ! Friday, November 19, 2004, 10:21, Tony Boom wrote: No, get yourself over to TBOT, you don't know what your missing, it can be great fun over there. There's a lot less chance of getting a slimy earole as well. Sorry, I have not the time to read TBOT (and I do not remember my very old Yahoogroups-password; they seem to have changed the reminder function to enter location, postal code etc. Which I certainly did not enter back on egroups.). But I would be interested to hear what Gmail replies to your email. BTW, I do not think Gmail AND TB are OT. It may well belong to TBUDL, because there are certainly others experiencing the same problems (e.g. ports, not receiving copies etc.). -- Kveðja, Thorvald Neumann | http://www.aesir.de/ | The Bat! v3.0.2.6 Professional PopFile v0.22.0 | Windows 2000 SP4 (v5.0.2195) +---+ | Get Firefox - Take back the web! | | http://www.spreadfirefox.com/?q=affiliatesamp;id=22411amp;t=1 | +---+ Current beta is 3.0.2.7 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Thorvald, A reminder of what Thorvald Neumann on TBBETA typed on: 19 November 2004 at 10:36:19 GMT +0100 It may well belong to TBUDL, because there are certainly others experiencing the same problems I'm not on TBUDL, s'pose I should get myself over there. - -- Best regards,Tony. _ Message composed on 19/11/2004 at 09:55 UTC 2004 - AWB Using The Bat! v3.0.2.7 on Windows XP 5. 1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.5 Turbo Diesel Injection Land Rover Defender 110 iQA/AwUBQZ3DM9anuJ+T+uXWEQLRRgCg1nOBBQoFg0zNNObkzvvjg9oEcMUAn0Hm SsPFSpt1OSv4EfuAZh8yS1kr =L/21 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current beta is 3.0.2.7 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: test gmail retr
On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 10:36:19 +0100, Thorvald Neumann wrote: Sorry, I have not the time to read TBOT Likewise. The TB-related traffic on tbbeta is already as much as I can bear. But I would be interested to hear what Gmail replies to your email. Likewise. FWIW, this problem is not just confined to POP3. You notice it also when you use the Web interface. So I first encountered it about a month ago and complained to the Gmail support staff at that time. I also submitted a wish to Google a few days ago that they either change the behavior or at least provide an option to change the behavior. As I see it, Google's argument about a cluttered Inbox fails on two points. (1) Google keeps reminding you that you have 1Gb space and you don't need to worry about deleting anything. So why should users worry about a few duplicate messages? (2) Gmail provides filters and an efficient anti-spam engine that are quite effective at reducing clutter of the Inbox. Having said all that, I can almost live with the way Google has this set up. Almost. What disturbs me the most is the fact that threading of messages gets confused. A private reply to mailing list message gets muddled in with a public reply. This could lead to unfortunate events. :-) And while I do get a notice from Google if a message I send to a mailing list is not received by the list, Google would probably not be able to inform me that my message never appeared on the list if it is a moderated list and my message was not approved by the moderator. So I am also not a happy camper on this point. I am getting by with the occasionally muddled threading in Google's Web interface and making do with some Outgoing Mail filters in TB. It is not entirely satisfactory, but it is not so bad either - a relatively small inconvenience (hopefully temporary) to endure while reaping the numerous benefits BTW, I do not think Gmail AND TB are OT. It may well belong to TBUDL, because there are certainly others experiencing the same problems (e.g. ports, not receiving copies etc.). Likewise. Right now it looks like Gmail could be the wave of the future. I expect that a significant percentage of TB users will have Gmail accounts and that this percentage will go on increasing for a while. So it is essential that TB support Gmail and do it smoothly. It is disappointing that there are no direct instructions for configuring TB for POP3 in the Gmail help. It was a bit confusing at first, because the general instructions did not correspond neatly with the interface of TB. -- Avi Yashar Windows XP Pro SP2 and The Bat! Pro 3.0.2.4 Current beta is 3.0.2.7 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Avi, A reminder of what Avi Yashar on TBBETA typed on: 19 November 2004 at 12:24:45 GMT +0200 So I am also not a happy camper on this point Then do as I have done and write directly to Gmail Team [EMAIL PROTECTED] Read what I said on TBOT and backup what I said adding your own arguments as well. So it is essential that TB support Gmail and do it smoothly. I believe it should be the other way round, gmail should support all mail clients, not just the rubbish ones. - -- Best regards,Tony. _ Message composed on 19/11/2004 at 10:32 UTC 2004 - AWB Using The Bat! v3.0.2.7 on Windows XP 5. 1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.5 Turbo Diesel Injection Land Rover Defender 110 iQA/AwUBQZ3MctanuJ+T+uXWEQKkKwCfdwOaoJ/L0MJVTYnP6+cI/TfGZmEAoMzt 2fOnebtV4Zdqj3Msn7fIx2vl =YOgP -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current beta is 3.0.2.7 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: test gmail retr
Dear Thorvald, Going back 08:17 19.11.2004... Port 587 works with STARTTLS and TLS works with 465. I am not sure why. Because they conform to the RFCs. 587 is the mail submission port that must provide STARTTLS and AUTH, and 465 is the (legacy) sSMTP/SMTP-over-SSL port that works with SSL from the beginning of the connection. Cheers, Johannesmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- We can predict everything, except the future. The Bat! 3.0.2.5 serving on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.0.2.7 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: test gmail retr
On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 10:35:25 +, Tony Boom wrote: So I am also not a happy camper on this point Then do as I have done and write directly to Gmail Team [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tony, I don't need to back you up. My complaint is already on file with Google long before you sent yours. I also don't see a need for petitioning like that. I am sure that a lot of people have complained on this point, not just a few TB users. Read what I said on TBOT and backup what I said adding your own arguments as well. I read it. My arguments are already on file with Gmail. But if you are still in correspondence with Google on this subject, feel free to use my arguments as if they are your own. :-) So it is essential that TB support Gmail and do it smoothly. I believe it should be the other way round, gmail should support all mail clients, not just the rubbish ones. Google states clearly that an email client will only be supported if the client supports SMTP authentication. That is the only restriction that I saw. But the general instructions for configuration did not tally directly with the TB interface. That makes me wonder whether the terminology used in our TB interface is standard. TB works with Gmail, but it requires more savvy than it should to make that happen. This is all that I was saying here. Think of it as another documentation complaint. The reason why I said it is essential that TB support Gmail and do it smoothly is simply because of the number of TB users who are likely to have Gmail accounts in the future and who will want to use TB to access Gmail. It is Ritlabs' choice, of course, but I think the alternative is to handle an unnecessary and costly support load of translating the instructions on the Gmail server to each TB user with Gmail. I expect that TB could even lose some prospective customers - people who download the shareware, test it out on their Gmail account, fail to find an easy way to configure TB, and abandon TB for something that seems to work better. Think of this as a marketing suggestion. -- Avi Yashar Windows XP Pro SP2 and The Bat! Pro 3.0.2.4 Current beta is 3.0.2.7 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: test gmail retr
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Avi, A reminder of what Avi Yashar on TBBETA typed on: 19 November 2004 at 14:45:40 GMT +0200 I am sure that a lot of people have complained on this point, not just a few TB users. I sincerely hope so. feel free to use my arguments as if they are your own. :-) Still waiting for a reply from them but thank you. TB works with Gmail, but it requires more savvy than it should to make that happen. Not sure what problems you had configuring TB! but I found following the instructions for Other (As in other email clients) very easy to follow and they worked first time. I think the major problem is knowing what the difference is between SSL and STARTTLS. They're not the usual settings or ports used by normal ISP type servers that people are used to. This is all that I was saying here. Think of it as another documentation complaint. And I believe that the documentation for setting up TB! should be on the Google site. After all Eudora is there and nowhere in Eudor's documentation do they mention gmail so why should The Bat include it... Come to think of it how many people do you know that use Eudora? - -- Best regards,Tony. _ Message composed on 19/11/2004 at 16:43 UTC 2004 - AWB Using The Bat! v3.0.2.7 on Windows XP 5. 1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.5 Turbo Diesel Injection Land Rover Defender 110 iQA/AwUBQZ4mdNanuJ+T+uXWEQK7kQCg9cBC0qrA4evXb2amtr7D5uFoZ0wAoLCJ SrFAI8m84Y2x4e3Oex/NcAn4 =dhsN -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current beta is 3.0.2.7 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
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On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 16:59:32 +, Tony Boom wrote: TB works with Gmail, but it requires more savvy than it should to make that happen. Not sure what problems you had configuring TB! but I found following the instructions for Other (As in other email clients) very easy to follow and they worked first time. I think the major problem is knowing what the difference is between SSL and STARTTLS. They're not the usual settings or ports used by normal ISP type servers that people are used to. Well, let's look at what is written in those instructions for Other, which is what I also followed. What it says is: ___ Incoming Mail (POP3) Server requires SSL: pop.gmail.com Use SSL: Yes Port: 995 ___ When I look at my TB connection options, I see Regular, STARTTLS, and TLS. Nowhere do I see SSL. Think of me as an ordinary user with no understanding of what these three protocols mean (which is not far wrong). I wouldn't have a clue which one to choose. I don't see SSL. So what do I do? I go to the help file and run a search for SSL. Do I find it? No, I do not! So, Tony, how can you describe this as very easy? Maybe it is very easy for you, but it is certainly not very easy for the average user. Let's look now at the instructions for setting up SMTP. ___ Outgoing Mail (SMTP) Server requires TLS: smtp.gmail.com (use authentication) Use Authentication: Yes Use STARTTLS: Yes (some clients call this SSL) Port: 465 or 587 ___ So now I am looking for STARTTLS or SSL (or so it seems). We already know that SSL is not there. Unfortunately, STARTTLS is there. But when I try to use it, the STARTTLS option (secure to regular port) does not work. I have to use the TLS option (secure to dedicated port). Again, maybe this is all very easy for you, but I found it rather confusing. The fact that Gmail seems to be using a somewhat different and possibly contradicting terminology than TB makes me wonder whether the TB use of terminology is accurate or up to date. And so I remarked as follows: This is all that I was saying here. Think of it as another documentation complaint. You answered: And I believe that the documentation for setting up TB! should be on the Google site. Yes, definitely! In one of my first messages on this topic, I explicitly regretted that there was no specific instructions on the Google site regarding configuring TB for Gmail. There seems to be a marketing and support issue here. Ritlabs should be in contact with Gmail to get such instructions posted. Ideally, the Ritlabs technical writer should be involved in this task, but... as we all know... Ritlabs does not have a technical writer nor does it seem very serious about getting one. :-( -- Avi Yashar Windows XP Pro SP2 and The Bat! Pro 3.0.2.4 Current beta is 3.0.2.7 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
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Hello Avi, A reminder of what Avi Yashar on TBBETA typed on: 19 November 2004 at 20:50:30 GMT +0200 Well, let's look at what is written in those instructions You look at what you like, I'm looking at Gabby Rosalyn on TV at the moment :) -- Best regards,Tony. _ Message composed on 19/11/2004 at 19:05 UTC 2004 - AWB Using The Bat! v3.0.2.7 on Windows XP 5. 1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.0.2.7 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
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Hæ! Wednesday, November 17, 2004, 15:13, Avi Yashar wrote: Confirmed. Gmail's POP3 and SMTP both work very smoothly in TB. And it is very easy to configure TB for both. OK, Gmail just enabled the POP-options for my accounts. POP works, but what settings do I have to use for SMTP? I tried TLS to port 587 and entered the specific details under Perform SMTP authentication/Use specific settings... I also tried the settings of mail retrieval. This does not work... :( -- Kveðja, Thorvald Neumann | http://www.aesir.de/ | The Bat! v3.0.2.6 Professional PopFile v0.22.0 | Windows 2000 SP4 (v5.0.2195) +---+ | Get Firefox - Take back the web! | | http://www.spreadfirefox.com/?q=affiliatesamp;id=22411amp;t=1 | +---+ Listening to: DeutschlandRadio Berlin Current beta is 3.0.2.7 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
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Hæ! I checked the log and it says: TLS protocol error: Unexpected message. -- Kveðja, Thorvald Neumann | http://www.aesir.de/ | The Bat! v3.0.2.6 Professional PopFile v0.22.0 | Windows 2000 SP4 (v5.0.2195) +---+ | Get Firefox - Take back the web! | | http://www.spreadfirefox.com/?q=affiliatesamp;id=22411amp;t=1 | +---+ Listening to: DeutschlandRadio Berlin Current beta is 3.0.2.7 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
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Hello Thorvald, A reminder of what Thorvald Neumann on TBBETA typed on: 18 November 2004 at 09:45:16 GMT +0100 I tried TLS to port 587 and entered the specific details under Perform SMTP authentication/Use specific settings... You need to enable STARTTLS for SMTP, TLS is for popping. -- Best regards,Tony. _ Message composed on 18/11/2004 at 08:51 UTC 2004 - AWB Using The Bat! v3.0.2.7 on Windows XP 5. 1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.0.2.7 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
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Hæ! Thursday, November 18, 2004, 09:49, Peter Hampf wrote: Connection: Secure to dedicated port 465. And use settings of mail retrieval. That does work here just fine. Thanks, this works. :) Why did they wrote port 587 on Gmail's website? Just wondering... -- Kveðja, Thorvald Neumann | http://www.aesir.de/ | The Bat! v3.0.2.6 Professional PopFile v0.22.0 | Windows 2000 SP4 (v5.0.2195) +---+ | Get Firefox - Take back the web! | | http://www.spreadfirefox.com/?q=affiliatesamp;id=22411amp;t=1 | +---+ Listening to: DeutschlandRadio Berlin Current beta is 3.0.2.7 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: test gmail retr
Hæ! Thursday, November 18, 2004, 09:52, Tony Boom wrote: You need to enable STARTTLS for SMTP, TLS is for popping. TLS works with port 465 for SMTP. -- Kveðja, Thorvald Neumann | http://www.aesir.de/ | The Bat! v3.0.2.6 Professional PopFile v0.22.0 | Windows 2000 SP4 (v5.0.2195) +---+ | Get Firefox - Take back the web! | | http://www.spreadfirefox.com/?q=affiliatesamp;id=22411amp;t=1 | +---+ Listening to: DeutschlandRadio Berlin Current beta is 3.0.2.7 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
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Hæ! Thursday, November 18, 2004, 15:00, rmorris wrote: I had to use port 587,could it be different countries,servers? I do not know. Hmmh, strange. -- Kveðja, Thorvald Neumann | http://www.aesir.de/ | The Bat! v3.0.2.6 Professional PopFile v0.22.0 | Windows 2000 SP4 (v5.0.2195) +---+ | Get Firefox - Take back the web! | | http://www.spreadfirefox.com/?q=affiliatesamp;id=22411amp;t=1 | +---+ Listening to: DeutschlandRadio Berlin Current beta is 3.0.2.7 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: test gmail retr
Hello Þorvaldur, on Thursday, November 18, 2004 at you wrote: Hæ! Thursday, November 18, 2004, 15:00, rmorris wrote: I had to use port 587,could it be different countries,servers? I do not know. Hmmh, strange. Sending from Germany I had to use port 587 - it didn't work using port 465 -- Best regards, Stefan Dorscht mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Written with TheBat! v 3.0.1.33 \ Windows XP Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.0.2.7 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
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Hæ! Thursday, November 18, 2004, 15:37, Stefan Dorscht wrote: Sending from Germany I had to use port 587 - it didn't work using port 465 It's the other way around for me... -- Kveðja, Thorvald Neumann | http://www.aesir.de/ | The Bat! v3.0.2.6 Professional PopFile v0.22.0 | Windows 2000 SP4 (v5.0.2195) +---+ | Get Firefox - Take back the web! | | http://www.spreadfirefox.com/?q=affiliatesamp;id=22411amp;t=1 | +---+ Listening to: DeutschlandRadio Berlin Current beta is 3.0.2.7 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: test gmail retr
Hæ! Thursday, November 18, 2004, 15:37, Stefan Dorscht wrote: Sending from Germany I had to use port 587 - it didn't work using port 465 Port 587 works with STARTTLS and TLS works with 465. I am not sure why. What I do not like is Gmail obviously filters my emails to the list, so that I do not receive a copy of my mails. :( Quite annoying. -- Kveðja, Thorvald Neumann | http://www.aesir.de/ | The Bat! v3.0.2.6 Professional PopFile v0.22.0 | Windows 2000 SP4 (v5.0.2195) +---+ | Get Firefox - Take back the web! | | http://www.spreadfirefox.com/?q=affiliatesamp;id=22411amp;t=1 | +---+ Current beta is 3.0.2.7 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: test gmail retr
On Wed, 17 Nov 2004 08:34:20 +, Tony Boom wrote: Gmail pop access requires the use of SSL which I'm using now and it's working well. Confirmed. Gmail's POP3 and SMTP both work very smoothly in TB. And it is very easy to configure TB for both. An interesting plus for Gmail's POP3 - for me - has been that Gmail's powerful spam control has eliminated around 98% of my spam. That is better results than I have gotten with BayesIt or MailWasher. In case there is a false positive (very rare, but it happens), the mail is not lost. You can still retrieve the false positive for 30 days and also train Gmail (at least it's supposed to accept training) to recognize that mail as valid. -- Avi Yashar Windows XP Pro SP2 and The Bat! Pro 3.0.2.4 Current beta is 3.0.2.7 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: test gmail retr
Hello Avi, A reminder of what Avi Yashar on TBBETA typed on: 17 November 2004 at 16:13:20 GMT +0200 AY Confirmed. Gmail's POP3 and SMTP both work very smoothly in TB. And it AY is very easy to configure TB for both. Not for me I'm afraid. It works but I'm not getting anything I post to the lists back. They are in my gmail inbox on the web but they are not being popped back to me. I'm getting all other peoples posts OK bnut not my own. Anyone any ideas? -- Best regards,Tony. _ Message composed on 17/11/2004 at 14:32 UTC 2004 - AWB Using The Bat! v3.0.2.7 on Windows XP 5. 1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.0.2.7 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: test gmail retr
On Wed, 17 Nov 2004 14:35:36 +, Tony Boom wrote: Not for me I'm afraid. It works but I'm not getting anything I post to the lists back. They are in my gmail inbox on the web but they are not being popped back to me. I'm getting all other peoples posts OK bnut not my own. Actually, Tony, this is one of the intentional quirks of Gmail. Here is how the Gmail support staff explain it: ~~~ Mail you send to yourself only appears in your inbox when you are the sole recipient of the message. In order to prevent your inbox from becoming cluttered, messages that you carbon copy or blind carbon copy to yourself, or send to a mailing list that you subscribe to, appear in the 'Sent Mail' section of your account. If a message is not successfully delivered, an error message is sent to your inbox. ~~~ You can also read something about this problem in the Gmail Help Center at: https://gmail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=8853query=CCtopic=0type=f This behavior takes some getting used to. I also don't like it very much. Google tells you again and again not to worry about deleting mail, but then they take this kind of step to prevent your inbox from getting cluttered. It seems to be a contradiction. But I have now gotten used to this behavior, and I no longer require the security blanket of actually seeing a returned copy of my message from mailing lists. I can wait to see my message again when someone replies. After all, I do have a copy of what I sent in the Sent Mail folder of both TB and Gmail. -- Avi Yashar Windows XP Pro SP2 and The Bat! Pro 3.0.2.4 Current beta is 3.0.2.7 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: test gmail retr
Paul Van Noord wrote: When will The Bat! be able to use a SSL server?? TB! is able to do POP or IMAP over SSL. It has been capable for a while. -- Cheers, -= Allie Martin =- I think not, said Descartes, and promptly disappeared. IMAP Clients: The Bat! v3.0.2.5 | ThunderBird v0.9 IMAP Server: MDaemon Pro | OS: Windows XP Pro (Service Pack 2) Current beta is 3.0.2.7 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
