Re: The Bat! 3.0.2.5 Rush is now available
Hello all, Friday, November 5, 2004, 9Val wrote: The Bat! 3.0.2.5 Rush is now available from http://www.ritlabs.com/en/tbbeta/ Here is a short list of changes: [*] Message base and configuration data encryption can be now activated for Professional Edition (see comments below) - when I installed fresh copy of TB 3.0.2.5 and restarted TB, error Access Violation at address 008A1E52 appears instead Account properties dialog. - after fresh install, two Inbox - Known folders are displayed in newly created account, one has blue arrow, one is without it. - when I tried to open Restore dialog, error Access Violation 007D193C and when I selected backup file, warning Error loading... appeared. -- Bye Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 3.0.2.5 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Notebook Acer, Pentium4-M 2.2 GHz, 512 MB RAM, ADSL line Current beta is 3.0.2.5 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.0.2.5 Rush is now available
Hello Maxim! On Sunday, November 7, 2004 at 8:16:21 AM you wrote: If you simply run this EXE, it will ask the user what edition it is. I wasn't asked, or do I misunderstand your statement?* What will happen with the old (unencrypted) data if you enable encryption? Make it a choice (if possible): [] Encrypt complete message base [] Save old message base unencrypted and only encrypt message base from now on If this isn't possible just encrypt the complete message base. *Yes, my About screen tells me I use Professional edition. -- Dierk Haasis :Dierk: Copy 'n' Concept The Bat 3.0.2.5 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Chat info for ICQ, AIM, MSN, Yahoo, Jabber upon request Solange man bewundern und lieben kann, ist man immer jung. (Pablo Casals) Current beta is 3.0.2.5 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.0.2.5 Rush is now available
Hello Dierk! On Sunday, November 7, 2004 at 9:24:19 AM you wrote: I wasn't asked, or do I misunderstand your statement?* You are right, I didn't do a clean install - as I don't see a way to do it with only the EXE ... -- Dierk Haasis :Dierk: Copy 'n' Concept The Bat 3.0.2.5 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Chat info for ICQ, AIM, MSN, Yahoo, Jabber upon request Jeder Mensch macht Fehler. Das Kunststück liegt darin, sie zu machen, wenn keiner zuschaut. (Sir Peter Ustinov) Current beta is 3.0.2.5 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.0.2.5 Rush is now available
Hello Dierk Haasis everyone else 07-Nov-2004 09:26, you wrote: I wasn't asked, or do I misunderstand your statement?* You are right, I didn't do a clean install - as I don't see a way to do it with only the EXE ... Though I'm not a v.pro user, but since I already have my first cup of coffee *g* ... Wouldn't it work to install 3.0.1.33 from the MSI file and then, before you start the program for the first time, replace the executable with the 3.0.2.5 version? -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) using v3.0.2.5 on Windows XP Pro Service Pack 2 Sometimes men come by the name of genius in the same way that an insect comes by the name of centipede - not because they have 100 feet, but because most men can't count beyond fourteen. -- George C. Lichtenberg Current beta is 3.0.2.5 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.0.2.5 Rush is now available
Hello Alexander! On Sunday, November 7, 2004 at 9:53:58 AM you wrote: Wouldn't it work to install 3.0.1.33 from the MSI file and then, before you start the program for the first time, replace the executable with the 3.0.2.5 version? Sounds interesting. I will not try that, though, since those who have done what Maxim explained as the correct way did encounter some problems. As message base encryption at the moment is not vital to my needs (it may be so in the near future) the pay-off is too low. Lets hope the feature gets a bit more user-friendly in the next few betas - Opera's current preview was enough fiddling around for me for some time ... -- Dierk Haasis :Dierk: Copy 'n' Concept The Bat 3.0.2.5 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Chat info for ICQ, AIM, MSN, Yahoo, Jabber upon request Da, wo der Wille groß ist, können die Schwierigkeiten nicht groß sein. (Niccolo Machiavelli) Current beta is 3.0.2.5 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.0.2.5 Rush is now available
Hello Greg, A reminder of what Greg Strong typed on: 07 November 2004 at 03:30:39 GMT +0100 GS And Stefan wonders why people use other compression utilities such as GS 7-Zip to backup and restore TB. I use a simple little batch file in combination with Winrar. It backs up the registry entries to a Bat sub folder and then zips the whole lot up and dumps it onto a usb memory stick. Safe and sound in my pocket and takes less than a few minutes to transfer it to any PC as if it had always been there. -- Best regards,Tony. _ Message composed on 07/11/2004 at 09:14 UTC 2004 - AWB Using The Bat! v3.0.2.5 on Windows XP 5. 1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.0.2.5 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.0.2.5 Rush is now available
Hello Dierk, A reminder of what Dierk Haasis typed on: 07 November 2004 at 09:25:18 GMT +0100 If you simply run this EXE, it will ask the user what edition it is. DH I wasn't asked, or do I misunderstand your statement?* All I did was replace the exe file, deleted the RIT registry entries and ran TB as normal. It then went through the whole process as if it was a fresh install, asking about encryption etc. All went well right up to the point of choosing restore from backup. The backup file may as well been a bowl of custard for all the good it was. -- Best regards,Tony. _ Message composed on 07/11/2004 at 10:38 UTC 2004 - AWB Using The Bat! v3.0.2.5 on Windows XP 5. 1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.0.2.5 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.0.2.5 Rush is now available
Hello Dierk, A reminder of what Dierk Haasis typed on: 07 November 2004 at 09:27:33 GMT +0100 DH You are right, I didn't do a clean install - as I don't see a way to DH do it with only the EXE ... See my previous post of a minute or so ago. I did backup properly first though, just as well really :) -- Best regards,Tony. _ Message composed on 07/11/2004 at 10:41 UTC 2004 - AWB Using The Bat! v3.0.2.5 on Windows XP 5. 1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.0.2.5 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[3]: The Bat! 3.0.2.5 Rush is now available
Maxim, Sunday, November 7, 2004, 7:18:33 AM, you wrote: Hello Sean, Saturday, November 06, 2004, 11:38:39, you wrote: I installed it over my .4 setup and it never asked me if I wanted to use the encryption. Still trying to find the location in the menu to see if I can switch it on :) There is no menu to switch it. Only when doing a clean install (when not The Bat! entry is in the Registry), you can select the encryption node. This is quite right that that The Bat! didn't ask you about the encryption, you did already have an installed instance of the program. Thanks Max, I have to learn to read :rofl: Sean -- Sean Rima [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 679813 YAHOO: thecivvie O2 +353863868343 Vodafone +353872628431 Im listening to Britney Spears - Everytime ( Hi Bias Radio Remix ). Using TheBat! 3.0.2.5 and BayesIt! 0.7.4 Windows XP (NT 5.1Build 2600 - Service Pack 2) :irl-flag: pgpx31NXiIBwQ.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.0.2.5 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.0.2.5 Rush is now available
Hello Maxim, Sunday, November 7, 2004, 1:16:21 AM, Maxim Masiutin wrote: If you simply run this EXE, it will ask the user what edition it is. Never asked here. -- Best Regards, Greg Strong Using The Bat! v3.0.2.5 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.0.2.5 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.0.2.5 Rush is now available
Hello Tony, Sunday, November 7, 2004, 4:41:20 AM, Tony Boom wrote: If you simply run this EXE, it will ask the user what edition it is. DH I wasn't asked, or do I misunderstand your statement?* All I did was replace the exe file, deleted the RIT registry entries and ran TB as normal. It then went through the whole process as if it was a fresh install, asking about encryption etc. All went well right up to the point of choosing restore from backup. The backup file may as well been a bowl of custard for all the good it was. Ok now I understand. I didn't delete registry. Custard may be good but not when it comes to reading the mail base. :-) -- Best Regards, Greg Strong Using The Bat! v3.0.2.5 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.0.2.5 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: The Bat! 3.0.2.5 Rush is now available
Hello Dierk, Sunday, November 07, 2004, 10:24:19, you wrote: Make it a choice (if possible): [] Encrypt complete message base [] Save old message base unencrypted and only encrypt message base from now on If this isn't possible just encrypt the complete message base. Save old message base unencrypted and only encrypt message base from now on might have been possible, but not secure. If you switch between encrypted and unencrypted mode, how would we deal with the attachements that are kept in a separate directory? In encrypted mode, attachments aren't stored separately. This is needed to protect the attachments. -- Best regards, Maxim Masiutinmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current beta is 3.0.2.5 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: The Bat! 3.0.2.5 Rush is now available
Hello Greg, Sunday, November 07, 2004, 16:37:22, you wrote: If you simply run this EXE, it will ask the user what edition it is. Never asked here. Did you delete The Bat! registry entry before running The Bat!? -- Best regards, Maxim Masiutinmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current beta is 3.0.2.5 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.0.2.5 Rush is now available
On Sunday, November 7, 2004, 16:42, Maxim Masiutin wrote: Save old message base unencrypted and only encrypt message base from now on might have been possible, but not secure. Besides, it might be difficult for TB! to keep track of to different bases for each folder, one encrypted and one not. I vote for either encrypting a whole folder or not encrypting at all. However, I would like an option to turn encryption on/off for single accounts or even better for single folders. Encryption adds extra security against intruders, but at the same time, it makes it harder (or impossible) for me to manually inspect a corrupt message base. I can always open an unencrypted .tbb file in Notepad and extract as much information as possible, this I cannot do with an encrypted folder. For some folders, I would like the extra security encryption brings, for others, I'd rather have the extra safety of being able to open and read the message base in my editor of choice. Max, I would appreciate your comments and thoughts on this. The decision will always be yours, but I believe we all would gain from discussing this before you implement it. -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current beta is 3.0.2.5 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.0.2.5 Rush is now available
Hello Greg, A reminder of what Greg Strong typed on: 07 November 2004 at 15:37:45 GMT +0100 GS Never asked here. ,- | *BACKUP* and then delete HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\RIT and then try again. | ^^ ` -- Best regards,Tony. _ Message composed on 07/11/2004 at 14:40 UTC 2004 - AWB Using The Bat! v3.0.2.5 on Windows XP 5. 1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.0.2.5 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.0.2.5 Rush is now available
Hello Maxim! On Sunday, November 7, 2004 at 4:42:47 PM you wrote: If you switch between encrypted and unencrypted mode, how would we deal with the attachements that are kept in a separate directory? In encrypted mode, attachments aren't stored separately. This is needed to protect the attachments. Correct. My idea would be to make an option Use message base encryption, which also changes the attachment storage if necessary. There should be warnings and instructions on how to proceed, like a hint that you cannot go back. Better yet, the encryption should be as fool proof as possible, such that even switching between encrypted and unencrypted poses no trouble. As I've pointed out, currently for me a switch is out of the question since the possibilities to lose something is rather big; the hassle is a bit too much, too. But I will want/need encryption in the future - and I'd like a smooth transition. For new users, not having an existing message base, preferences et al. the way you chose is easy, but for us old hands ... -- Dierk Haasis :Dierk: Copy 'n' Concept The Bat 3.0.2.5 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Chat info for ICQ, AIM, MSN, Yahoo, Jabber upon request Jede gute Tat zieht ihre Bestrafung nach sich. (Aleks Papst) Current beta is 3.0.2.5 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.0.2.5 Rush is now available
Hello Maxim, Sunday, November 7, 2004, 9:47:46 AM, Maxim Masiutin wrote: If you simply run this EXE, it will ask the user what edition it is. Never asked here. Did you delete The Bat! registry entry before running The Bat!? No see mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] where I acknowledged my misunderstanding. -- Best Regards, Greg Strong Using The Bat! v3.0.2.5 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.0.2.5 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: The Bat! 3.0.2.5 Rush is now available
viernes, 5 nov 2004 at 23:46, it seems you wrote:
From what I've seen in Maxim's note (cited by you) I'd say this is a
little bit useless at the moment since no MSI installer has been
published, yet ...
It seems to refer to v3.0 Profesional MSIs
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Re[2]: The Bat! 3.0.2.5 Rush is now available
[ Sunday, November 7, 2004 at 18.33.19 (GMT +0100)] Tony, On Sun, 7 Nov 2004, at 09:24:33 [GMT+] (which was 07/11/2004, at 10.24 where I live ) you wrote: TB I use a simple little batch file in combination with Winrar. It backs up TB the registry entries to a Bat sub folder and then zips the whole lot up and TB dumps it onto a usb memory stick. Safe and sound in my pocket and takes TB less than a few minutes to transfer it to any PC as if it had always been TB there. The problem is that if you want to use the encryption way in 3.0.2.5 and so encrypt the entire mail directories you have to use the restore tools otherwise TB doesnt encrypts nothing :( (i have tried it too much times!) But the backup/restore not works ... just said by many guyz ;) Any solutions to keep the old mails (and configs) and to use this encryption tool ?? Bye - JakeLM® [ http://www.jakelm.it ] [Powered by The Bat [3.0.2.5] The One Mailreader.] day-start midday day-end === 18.33 Time from your mail and my answer: 8 Hour 8 Min 46 Sec Current beta is 3.0.2.5 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Encryption and smooth transition for TB! Pro users [was Re: The Bat! 3.0.2.5 Rush is now available]
Hello Dierk! On Sunday, November 07, 2004, 10:01 AM, you wrote: Maxim M If you switch between encrypted and unencrypted mode, how Maxim M would we deal with the attachements that are kept in a Maxim M separate directory? In encrypted mode, attachments aren't Maxim M stored separately. This is needed to protect the Maxim M attachments. DH Correct. My idea would be to make an option Use message base DH encryption, which also changes the attachment storage if DH necessary. There should be warnings and instructions on how to DH proceed, like a hint that you cannot go back. Yes. I need those. DH Better yet, the encryption should be as fool proof as possible, DH such that even switching between encrypted and unencrypted poses DH no trouble. Absolutely. DH ... I will want/need encryption in the future - and I'd like a DH smooth transition. I would, too, very much, like a completely smooth transition to the full features of the Professional Edition. I don't have the skills to test what is presently offered. I wouldn't know how to get back to my present copy of The Bat!, if a beta like this one should cause major losses for me. DH For new users, not having an existing message base, preferences et al. DH the way you chose is easy, but for us old hands ... Very well said. That is exactly where I am. The only difference between me and others who chose the Professional Edition is that many pf them will be using it in a production environment as some of the programming subscribers to tbbeta express it, meaning, seemingly, to earn a living with. And the seamless transfer of message bases is critical to those users. I use The Bat! as my e-mail client for personal and private mail, and for some Internet transactions, but for me business records and customers are not at stake. But I still need and want the encryption feature very much. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.0.2.5 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.0.2.5 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.0.2.5 Rush is now available
Hello JakeLM, A reminder of what JakeLM typed on: 07 November 2004 at 18:45:11 GMT +0100 J otherwise TB doesnt encrypts nothing :( The Bat does encrypt nothing. J Any solutions to keep the old mails (and configs) and to use this J encryption tool ?? Only way I can see is to set up a fresh install with encryption enabled and then forward/redirect all your mail from another installation on another PC. Fine if like me you don't keep every mail you send and receive but if you have thousands then it'll be a bit of a chore. -- Best regards,Tony. _ Message composed on 07/11/2004 at 19:25 UTC 2004 - AWB Using The Bat! v3.0.2.5 on Windows XP 5. 1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.0.2.5 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.0.2.5 Rush is now available
Hello Tony, Sunday, November 7, 2004, 1:34:01 PM, Tony Boom wrote: J Any solutions to keep the old mails (and configs) and to use this J encryption tool ?? Only way I can see is to set up a fresh install with encryption enabled and then forward/redirect all your mail from another installation on another PC. Fine if like me you don't keep every mail you send and receive but if you have thousands then it'll be a bit of a chore. Agree. IIRC someone suggested encryption on a per folder basis and the ability to switch back and forth which I think is a good ideal. To be honest I don't really have anything worth encrypting. As far as I'm concerned the FBI, NSA, CIA, KGB, XYZ can have a look at my mail base. Nothing to hide. :-) I am a little rusty on the encryption process, but do recall there was symmetric and asymmetric. Please correct me if I'm wrong. Maxim /or Stefan what process will be used for encryption? -- Best Regards, Greg Strong Using The Bat! v3.0.2.5 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.0.2.5 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.0.2.5 Rush is now available
On Sunday, November 7, 2004, 20:34, Tony Boom wrote: Only way I can see is to set up a fresh install with encryption enabled and then forward/redirect all your mail from another installation on another PC. Not as a solution, but maybe as a workaround: Has anyone tried setting up a fresh TB! with encryption turned on and then *imported* (not restored) their old message bases? -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current beta is 3.0.2.5 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.0.2.5 Rush is now available
Hello Marcus, A reminder of what Marcus Ohlström typed on: 07 November 2004 at 21:13:55 GMT +0100 MO Not as a solution, but maybe as a workaround: Has anyone tried setting MO up a fresh TB! with encryption turned on and then *imported* (not MO restored) their old message bases? I was just going to try that until I got banned from this list for some reason ??? -- Best regards,Tony. _ Message composed on 07/11/2004 at 20:20 UTC 2004 - AWB Using The Bat! v3.0.2.5 on Windows XP 5. 1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.0.2.5 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: The Bat! 3.0.2.5 Rush is now available
[ Sunday, November 7, 2004 at 21.18.31 (GMT +0100)] Marcus, On Sun, 7 Nov 2004, at 21:13:26 [GMT+0100] (which was 07/11/2004, at 21.13 where I live ) you wrote: MO Not as a solution, but maybe as a workaround: Has anyone tried setting MO up a fresh TB! with encryption turned on and then *imported* (not MO restored) their old message bases? Yes i have just tried to import some folder and TB has encrypted it well. But all others setting's folder are lost. Probabily restoring also a .reg backup can help, but you have to change again tthis key HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\RIT\The Bat!\EncryptedLayerMode to the value choosed in the new installation of the Bat when prompted (aladdin token, password..etc). JakeLM® [ http://www.jakelm.it ] [Powered by The Bat [3.0.2.5] The One Mailreader.] day-start midday day-end === 21.18 Time from your mail and my answer: 5 Min 5 Sec Current beta is 3.0.2.5 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.0.2.5 Rush is now available
On Sunday, November 7, 2004, at 21:13:26 [UTC+0100] (Sunday, November 7, 2004 21:13 my local time) Marcus Ohlström wrote: Only way I can see is to set up a fresh install with encryption enabled and then forward/redirect all your mail from another installation on another PC. Not as a solution, but maybe as a workaround: Has anyone tried setting up a fresh TB! with encryption turned on and then *imported* (not restored) their old message bases? Yes, I tried and all messages were imported correctly. First I tried to restore messages from backup, but only the folder structure and account settings were restored. I have also several AV and other errors (see mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]). Then I decided to import messages from ordinary copy of my mail directory, where all data were not encrypted. It was successful, but time-consuming. Obviously, messages after importing are stored in encrypted form. Unfortunately, I cannot change any account settings because of AV error: Access violation at address 008A1E52 in module 'thebat.exe'. Read of address . I installed BayesIt! plug and it start working normally. As I wrote previously, filters are not completely restored, but paste them from text file is possible. Now I work with unencrypted form because I was not able to modify accounts. I attach except.log file generated in encrypted version. Maybe this help in troubleshooting... -- Best regards, Zygmunt Wereszczynski (Using The Bat! v3.0.2.5 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 with BayesIt! 0.7.4) except.log Description: Binary data Current beta is 3.0.2.5 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.0.2.5 Rush is now available
9Val, Friday, November 5, 2004, 10:24:20 PM, you wrote: Hello All, Sorry, if it will be duplicate The Bat! 3.0.2.5 Rush is now available from http://www.ritlabs.com/en/tbbeta/ Here is a short list of changes: [*] Message base and configuration data encryption can be now activated for Professional Edition (see comments below) cut !IMPORTANT! That's Maxim wrote about message base encryption: During the first run of The Bat! executable, if The Bat! home directory is not yet configured in the Registry, the program checks a registry value whether it has been installed by a Home Edition MSI or a Professional Edition MSI. In case of Professional Edition, The Bat! displays a dialog box whether a user wishes on-the-fly encryption. I installed it over my .4 setup and it never asked me if I wanted to use the encryption. Still trying to find the location in the menu to see if I can switch it on :) Sean -- Sean Rima [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 679813 YAHOO: thecivvie O2 +353863868343 Vodafone +353872628431 Access denied--nah nah na nah nah! Using TheBat! 3.0.2.5 and BayesIt! 0.7.4 Windows XP (NT 5.1Build 2600 - Service Pack 2) :irl-flag: pgpYDu3kow7AB.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.0.2.5 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.0.2.5 Rush is now available
On Saturday, November 6, 2004, 10:38, Sean Rima wrote: I installed it over my .4 setup and it never asked me if I wanted to use the encryption. Still trying to find the location in the menu to see if I can switch it on :) You can't. Read Max's note again: ,- | Please be aware that you can select to use or not to use on-the-fly | encryption only during the clean install, i.e. there were no The Bat! | previously installed. `- There is a workaround, but be aware other users have already reported serious problems trying this: ,- | If you like to change on-the-fly encryption back or forth, you have to | make full backup via the The Bat! BACKUP/RESTORE wizard, remove The | Bat! completely, including the Registry entries, run this beta and do | the restore. | Please note that this is a beta version and The Bat! BACKUP/RESTORE | may not yet work properly. `- -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current beta is 3.0.2.5 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.0.2.5 Rush is now available
On Friday, November 05, 2004 at 5:24:20 PM [GMT -0500], 9val wrote: [*] IMAP: new mail sound improvements I haven't tested this much since filtering no longer works. I drag and drop the few unfiltered messages to their various locations after reading them. [*] IMAP: Fine-tune option 'Use precise counters' This seems to be working nicely. I am yet to see a single x or * appear. :) [*] IMAP: Fine-tune option 'Retrieve only text' This now works. However, opening the attachment doesn't lead to the attachment being retrieved. For example, I selected a message with attached images. The message is very quickly loaded, clearly without the images being retrieved. However, since the message structure is retrieved, the presence of attachments is detected and a string of tabs representing the images and their names appears in the preview window. I hit a tab and the tab is empty. Fine. However, the image isn't retrieved. I attempt saving attachments to file and they aren't saved. Work-around - disable the option and reload the message so that attachments are retrieved. -- -= Allie =- . Oxymoron: Standard deviation. __ Using The Bat! v3.0.2.5 for IMAP mail IMAP Server: MDaemon Pro | OS: Windows XP Pro (Service Pack 2) Current beta is 3.0.2.5 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.0.2.5 Rush is now available
Hello Allie, [*] IMAP: new mail sound improvements AM I haven't tested this much since filtering no longer works. I drag and AM drop the few unfiltered messages to their various locations after AM reading them. Strange, for me works as expected, even auto-filtering, has somebody else the same problems? AM Work-around - disable the option and reload the message so that AM attachments are retrieved. Work-around - 'Reload' from popup menu which always loads full message -- 9Val Current beta is 3.0.2.5 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.0.2.5 Rush is now available
Hi 9Val, On Saturday, November 6, 2004 00:24 your local time, which was Friday, November 5, 2004 at 22:24 my local time, 9Val 9Val [9] wrote; 9 The Bat! 3.0.2.5 Rush is now available from Just received my first AV; 00975708 thebat.exe 00B8 :-( -- Regards, Chris Created using The Bat! v3.0.2.5 IMAP OS of Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Cleaning up SPAM with Bayes Filter Plugin v1.5.6 Current beta is 3.0.2.5 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.0.2.5 Rush is now available
Hello Chris, CW What do you class as a 'fast connection'? It is very relative - if you have fast enough connection, you'll get rare long-staying wrong counters. TB! gets message counter, shows them and with enabled option tries to retrieve real message counters, with fast enough connection you'll get sometimes quick flickering of numbers, on slow you can wait a little for seeing correct numbers. So all depends if that delay is suitable for you -- 9Val Current beta is 3.0.2.5 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.0.2.5 Rush is now available
On Saturday, November 06, 2004 at 6:24:32 AM [GMT -0500], 9val wrote: AM Work-around - disable the option and reload the message so that AM attachments are retrieved. Work-around - 'Reload' from popup menu which always loads full message Ah. Ok. I had not tried that. :) Will this always be a method to load attachments? The user may wish to reload text only at times. -- -= Allie =- . God I want patience, and I WANT IT NOW! __ Using The Bat! v3.0.2.5 for IMAP mail IMAP Server: MDaemon Pro | OS: Windows XP Pro (Service Pack 2) Current beta is 3.0.2.5 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.0.2.5 Rush is now available
9Val [9], wrote: [*] IMAP: new mail sound improvements AM I haven't tested this much since filtering no longer works. I drag and AM drop the few unfiltered messages to their various locations after AM reading them. 9 Strange, for me works as expected, even auto-filtering, has somebody 9 else the same problems? I've not done much testing but so far sounds have been working as expected. I also use filters to highlight TBBETA messages according to topic and that's working reliably at the moment... I have had some messages missed with previous 3.0.2 release so I'll keep my eye on this. -- .\\artin | ICQ 15893823 Would you like me to give you a formula for success? It's quite simple really. Double your rate of failure. THOMAS J WATSON ___ IMAP Client: The Bat! Version 3.0.2.5 | Horde IMP WebMail IMAPS Server: Dovecot | OS: Windows XP Professional (Service Pack 2) Current beta is 3.0.2.5 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: [the_bat] Re: The Bat! 3.0.2.5 Rush is now available
Friday, November 5, 2004, 8:26:45 PM, (Internet Time - @143) you wrote: Hello Allie, I have a strange new entry into Options / Preferences called Anothe Setings What is this for ?? Are you sure of the spelling of these options AM The spelling is definitely wrong. :) AM I'm not sure what they really wish to put there since, even with correct AM settings, it doesn't make much sense to me. AM It could be meant to be 'Other Settings' or 'Miscellaneous' where the AM settings that don't really belong to any of the other categories, would AM go. I have to agree with you on the spelling. I took it to be Other Settings but not for sure. Also when you select the option, it shows the Work Days of the week. I am not familiar with German, but do they spell Monday the same way as the Americans? This one is spelled manday. But over all I have had very good luck with the IMAP features in this release. I do not have the sound problems I had before. I only have one filter and it is working as expected. I went back and followed the guidelines that others had posted with their IMAP settings and I did set it up for Fast Internet Connection. So far so good. -- Best regards, Michael mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! Version 3.0.2.5 On Windows XP SP2 Current beta is 3.0.2.5 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.0.2.5 Rush is now available
Hello 9Val, A reminder of what 9Val typed on: 05 November 2004 at 23:20:51 GMT +0100 9 Please note that this is a beta version and The Bat! BACKUP/RESTORE 9 may not yet work properly. May not? It certainly does not! I first created a complete backup the way I always do, with a batch file that backs up the registry and then the whole Bat directory. I then made a backup using TB's backup option so I could use it to restore. I deleted my RIT registry entry and ran TB. I followed all the on screen prompts for On the fly encryption, chose the option to restore from backup and got a Can't read data error and then an AV. When TB opened up I had a perfectly clean install, so clean there were absolutely zero messages. The AB was fine, templates were fine but no mail or filters at all. I even tried copying everything from the Mail folder to the newly created MailPwd (I think it was called) folder but when I ran TB it just went through the Do I want to restore? dialogue again. Nice idea though. -- Best regards,Tony. _ The Bat! v3.0.2.5 06/11/2004 at 10:48 UTC 24 - AWB Current beta is 3.0.2.5 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Days of the week (was: [the_bat] Re: The Bat! 3.0.2.5 Rush is now available)
Hello Michael, On Sat, 6 Nov 2004 08:03:35 -0600 GMT (06/11/2004, 21:03 +0700 GMT), Michael Acklin wrote: MA Also when you select the option, it shows the Work Days of the MA week. I am not familiar with German, but do they spell Monday the same MA way as the Americans? This one is spelled manday. Sorry to chip in. Americans spell it the same way as the British, and that's Monday. In German, it's Montag. In Moldavian, I'm not sure, but it seems to be a simple spelling mistake. Now about Work Days. In most of the Western world, that would mean Monday-Friday, while in the Arab World, that's Saturday to Thursday, and in Isreal, Sunday to Friday. In most of Asia, it's Monday to Saturday. When I lived in Damascus, we had Fridays and Sundays off (the latter due to respect the many Christians in our school, who didn't actually care and would have preferred a two-day weekend not interrupted by an on-duty Saturday but that's not the point). So Work Day is quite a confusing concept. ;-) -- Cheers, Thomas. BROT trocknet nicht so rasch aus, wenn man es stets in einem Eimer mit Wasser lagert. Message reply created with The Bat! 3.0.2.4 Rush under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A Current beta is 3.0.2.5 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.0.2.5 Rush is now available
Hello Zeynel everyone else 06-Nov-2004 01:51, you wrote: Yes there is also spelling errors in the Anothe options: Sheduler Manday ;) Maybe those are the opposites of Heduler and Womanday... *gg* SCNR -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) using v3.0.2.4 Rush on Windows XP Pro Service Pack 2 Deliplayer2 is playing: Sailing to Philadelphia by Mark Knopfler from the 2000 album 'Sailing to Philadelphia' Current beta is 3.0.2.5 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.0.2.5 Rush is now available
Hello Allie, Saturday, November 6, 2004, 4:43:07 AM, you wrote in part: [*] IMAP: Fine-tune option 'Retrieve only text' A This now works. However, opening the attachment doesn't lead to the A attachment being retrieved. For example, I selected a message with A attached images. The message is very quickly loaded, clearly without the A images being retrieved. However, since the message structure is A retrieved, the presence of attachments is detected and a string of tabs A representing the images and their names appears in the preview window. I A hit a tab and the tab is empty. Fine. However, the image isn't A retrieved. This causes a complete AV every time for me, and I cannot then retrieve any other email... solution is to log off then log on the account again and go to that folder, or restart TB! completely. I cannot use the above fine-tune option.. always causes an AV for the folder I am in. It worked once as you mention above. I also just found out that all my QTs have disappeared with installing this beta for me.. -- Regards, Gary Current beta is 3.0.2.5 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.0.2.5 Rush is now available
On Saturday, November 06, 2004 at 11:17:27 AM [GMT -0500], Gary wrote: This causes a complete AV every time for me, and I cannot then retrieve any other email... solution is to log off then log on the account again and go to that folder, or restart TB! completely. I cannot use the above fine-tune option.. always causes an AV for the folder I am in. It worked once as you mention above. Yes. I can confirm this. See attached av.png If I enable the 'load text only' option and attempt to load a very large message such as an HTML message that exceeds the specified size limit and does not have an attachment, the AV occurs. I also just found out that all my QTs have disappeared with installing this beta for me.. Not confirmed here. My QT's are just fine. -- -= Allie =- . Skiier: Someone who pays an arm and a leg to break them. __ Using The Bat! v3.0.2.5 for IMAP mail IMAP Server: MDaemon Pro | OS: Windows XP Pro (Service Pack 2) attachment: av.png Current beta is 3.0.2.5 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.0.2.5 Rush is now available
Hello Allie, Saturday, November 6, 2004, 11:02:55 AM, you wrote in part: This causes a complete AV every time for me, and I cannot then retrieve any other email... solution is to log off then log on the A Yes. I can confirm this. See attached av.png yep, looks very familiar :) A If I enable the 'load text only' option and attempt to load a very large A message such as an HTML message that exceeds the specified size limit A and does not have an attachment, the AV occurs. yes, agreed, and for me; also, any message that has an attachment will cause this... cannot use this feature at all yet. I also just found out that all my QTs have disappeared with installing this beta for me.. A Not confirmed here. My QT's are just fine. /sigh/ backup, backup, backup rule one of life .. (I have one) :) -- Regards, Gary Using 3.0.2.5 Windows 2000 SP4 (under duress). Current beta is 3.0.2.5 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: [the_bat] Re: The Bat! 3.0.2.5 Rush is now available
Hello Michael, A reminder of what Michael Acklin typed on: 06 November 2004 at 15:04:37 GMT +0100 MA This one is spelled manday. Perhaps that's his Wife's name :) -- Best regards,Tony. _ The Bat! v3.0.2.5 06/11/2004 at 14:50 UTC 2ØØ4 - AWB Current beta is 3.0.2.5 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: [the_bat] Re: The Bat! 3.0.2.5 Rush is now available
Hello Tony! On Saturday, November 6, 2004 at 3:50:42 PM you wrote: Perhaps that's his Wife's name :) Or a corrupted Kipling (for you younger boys and girls: Robbie Williams by way of Frnak Sinatra) reference: Mandalay ... -- Dierk Haasis :Dierk: Copy 'n' Concept The Bat 3.0.2.5 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Chat info for ICQ, AIM, MSN, Yahoo, Jabber upon request I never think of the future. It comes soon enough. (Albert Einstein) Current beta is 3.0.2.5 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.0.2.5 Rush is now available
Hi 9val, On Sat, 6 Nov 2004 00:24:20 +0200, 9Val [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [*] IMAP: new mail sound improvements [*] IMAP: Fine-tune option 'Use precise counters' [*] IMAP: Fine-tune option 'Retrieve only text' A little description for IMAP users: First tune option is suitable for IMAP users which have permanent and fast enough connection to server. After enabling it you should get rid of * and Thanks a lot. It's nice to see the IMAP support catching up with POP support. The precise counters option is great. I'd suggest that it be auto-enabled for the fast/permanent connection profile. -- Kevin Current beta is 3.0.2.5 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: The Bat! 3.0.2.5 Rush is now available
Marcus, Saturday, November 6, 2004, 9:45:00 AM, you wrote: On Saturday, November 6, 2004, 10:38, Sean Rima wrote: I installed it over my .4 setup and it never asked me if I wanted to use the encryption. Still trying to find the location in the menu to see if I can switch it on :) You can't. Read Max's note again: Darn, I must lean to read :smile008: Sean -- Sean Rima [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 679813 YAHOO: thecivvie O2 +353863868343 Vodafone +353872628431 Im listening to Def Leppard Best Of - Pour Some Sugar On Me. Using TheBat! 3.0.2.5 and BayesIt! 0.7.4 Windows XP (NT 5.1Build 2600 - Service Pack 2) :irl-flag: pgpbLn7GvSJh4.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.0.2.5 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.0.2.5 Rush is now available
Hello Allie, Saturday, November 6, 2004, 11:02:55 AM, you wrote in part: This causes a complete AV every time for me, and I cannot then retrieve any other email... solution is to log off then log on the account again and go to that folder, or restart TB! completely. I cannot use the above fine-tune option.. always causes an AV for the folder I am in. It worked once as you mention above. A Yes. I can confirm this. See attached av.png I am now getting this AV upon starting TB! which is reproducible... have gone back to last daily build. -- Regards, Gary Using 3.0.2.4 Rush Windows 2000 SP4 Current beta is 3.0.2.5 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.0.2.5 Rush is now available
Hello Tony, --On 6. marraskuuta 2004 10:59 + Tony Boom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 9 Please note that this is a beta version and The Bat! BACKUP/RESTORE 9 may not yet work properly. May not? It certainly does not! Unfortunately I have to confirm this. B/C havent worked for ages :-( I cannot even remember when I've managed to run both backup and restore successfully. -- Tero Ripattila Current beta is 3.0.2.5 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.0.2.5 Rush is now available
Hello Tero, Saturday, November 6, 2004, 7:39:01 PM, Tero Ripattila wrote: 9 Please note that this is a beta version and The Bat! BACKUP/RESTORE 9 may not yet work properly. May not? It certainly does not! Unfortunately I have to confirm this. B/C havent worked for ages :-( I cannot even remember when I've managed to run both backup and restore successfully. And Stefan wonders why people use other compression utilities such as 7-Zip to backup and restore TB. :-) -- Best Regards, Greg Strong Using The Bat! v3.0.2.5 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.0.2.5 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.0.2.5 Rush is now available
Hello Peter, Saturday, November 6, 2004, 8:51:15 PM, Peter Ouwehand wrote: A pain in the youknowwhat is always having to select the address books to include in the backup. Well I've made some minor changes to batch program Marck provided on 7-Zip. I created batch file on TB which runs from TB icon on desktop. I select TB icon, then TB opens and after close of TB backup runs on EVERYTHING. Simple as a click of a mouse. -- Best Regards, Greg Strong Using The Bat! v3.0.2.5 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.0.2.5 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: The Bat! 3.0.2.5 Rush is now available
Hello Sean, Saturday, November 06, 2004, 11:38:39, you wrote: I installed it over my .4 setup and it never asked me if I wanted to use the encryption. Still trying to find the location in the menu to see if I can switch it on :) There is no menu to switch it. Only when doing a clean install (when not The Bat! entry is in the Registry), you can select the encryption node. This is quite right that that The Bat! didn't ask you about the encryption, you did already have an installed instance of the program. -- Best regards, Maxim Masiutinmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current beta is 3.0.2.5 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: The Bat! 3.0.2.5 Rush is now available
Hello Dierk, Friday, November 05, 2004, 0:46:33, you wrote: From what I've seen in Maxim's note (cited by you) I'd say this is a little bit useless at the moment since no MSI installer has been published, yet ... The MSI installer just saves the user from the question whether it is Home or Professional edition. If you simply run this EXE, it will ask the user what edition it is. I'd really like to see an option later on to enable message base encryption without having to do a clean install. What will happen with the old (unencrypted) data if you enable encryption? -- Best regards, Maxim Masiutinmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current beta is 3.0.2.5 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
The Bat! 3.0.2.5 Rush is now available
Hello All, Sorry, if it will be duplicate The Bat! 3.0.2.5 Rush is now available from http://www.ritlabs.com/en/tbbeta/ Here is a short list of changes: [*] Message base and configuration data encryption can be now activated for Professional Edition (see comments below) [*] Scheduler: Automatic view for currently selected event [*] IMAP: new mail sound improvements [*] IMAP: Fine-tune option 'Use precise counters' [*] IMAP: Fine-tune option 'Retrieve only text' A little description for IMAP users: First tune option is suitable for IMAP users which have permanent and fast enough connection to server. After enabling it you should get rid of * and Second option is suitable for users who has slow connection and tired to wait downloading of message with big attachments Sounds on new mail became a little bit smarter and shouldn't trigger after filtering and manual operations !IMPORTANT! That's Maxim wrote about message base encryption: During the first run of The Bat! executable, if The Bat! home directory is not yet configured in the Registry, the program checks a registry value whether it has been installed by a Home Edition MSI or a Professional Edition MSI. In case of Professional Edition, The Bat! displays a dialog box whether a user wishes on-the-fly encryption. If you run a single .EXE-file not from the MSI, The Bat! will ask you what edition do you have. You can also enter the registration key and the program will extract the edition from the key. Please be aware that you can select to use or not to use on-the-fly encryption only during the clean install, i.e. there were no The Bat! previously installed. If you like to change on-the-fly encryption back or forth, you have to make full backup via the The Bat! BACKUP/RESTORE wizard, remove The Bat! completely, including the Registry entries, run this beta and do the restore. Please note that this is a beta version and The Bat! BACKUP/RESTORE may not yet work properly. -- 9Val Current beta is 3.0.2.4 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.0.2.5 Rush is now available
Hello 9Val! On Friday, November 5, 2004 at 11:24:20 PM you wrote: [*] Message base and configuration data encryption can be now activated for Professional Edition (see comments below) From what I've seen in Maxim's note (cited by you) I'd say this is a little bit useless at the moment since no MSI installer has been published, yet ... I'd really like to see an option later on to enable message base encryption without having to do a clean install. -- Dierk Haasis :Dierk: Copy 'n' Concept The Bat 3.0.2.5 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Chat info for ICQ, AIM, MSN, Yahoo, Jabber upon request Wherever Germany extends her sway, she ruins culture. (Friedrich Nietzsche) Current beta is 3.0.2.4 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
The Bat! 3.0.2.5 Rush is now available
Hello All, The Bat! 3.0.2.5 Rush is now available from http://www.ritlabs.com/en/tbbeta/ Here is a short list of changes: [*] Message base and configuration data encryption can be now activated for Professional Edition (see comments below) [*] Scheduler: Automatic view for currently selected event [*] IMAP: new mail sound improvements [*] IMAP: Fine-tune option 'Use precise counters' [*] IMAP: Fine-tune option 'Retrieve only text' A little description for IMAP users: First tune option is suitable for IMAP users which have permanent and fast enough connection to server. After enabling it you should get rid of * and Second option is suitable for users who has slow connection and tired to wait downloading of message with big attachments Sounds on new mail became a little bit smarter and shouldn't trigger after filtering and manual operations !IMPORTANT! That's Maxim wrote about message base encryption: During the first run of The Bat! executable, if The Bat! home directory is not yet configured in the Registry, the program checks a registry value whether it has been installed by a Home Edition MSI or a Professional Edition MSI. In case of Professional Edition, The Bat! displays a dialog box whether a user wishes on-the-fly encryption. If you run a single .EXE-file not from the MSI, The Bat! will ask you what edition do you have. You can also enter the registration key and the program will extract the edition from the key. Please be aware that you can select to use or not to use on-the-fly encryption only during the clean install, i.e. there were no The Bat! previously installed. If you like to change on-the-fly encryption back or forth, you have to make full backup via the The Bat! BACKUP/RESTORE wizard, remove The Bat! completely, including the Registry entries, run this beta and do the restore. Please note that this is a beta version and The Bat! BACKUP/RESTORE may not yet work properly. -- 9Val Current beta is 3.0.2.4 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.0.2.5 Rush is now available
Hi 9Val, On Saturday, November 6, 2004 00:24 your local time, which was Friday, November 5, 2004 at 22:24 my local time, 9Val 9Val [9] wrote; 9 [*] IMAP: Fine-tune option 'Use precise counters' 9 First tune option is suitable for IMAP users which have permanent and 9 fast enough connection to server. After enabling it you should get rid 9 of * and What do you class as a 'fast connection'? -- Regards, Chris Created using The Bat! v3.0.2.5 IMAP OS of Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Cleaning up SPAM with Bayes Filter Plugin v1.5.6 Current beta is 3.0.2.4 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.0.2.5 Rush is now available
Hello testers, 9 Hello All, 9 The Bat! 3.0.2.5 Rush is now available from 9 http://www.ritlabs.com/en/tbbeta/ I have a strange new entry into Options / Preferences called Anothe Setings What is this for ?? Are you sure of the spelling of these options ;-) -- / _.'\ \Julien RANC / _.'\ \ /_.-'\___\ email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |\_\ `` .- \ _/| ICQ# : 36623205 | _\___. | | / \ | web : http://www.jranc.com |/\| |__| Using The Bat! 3.0.2.5 s/n 9360592E Current beta is 3.0.2.4 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.0.2.5 Rush is now available
Hello Dierk, Friday, November 5, 2004, 11:46:33 PM, you wrote: DH I'd really like to see an option later on to enable message base DH encryption without having to do a clean install. I agree -- Best Wishes, Mark using The Bat! Version 3.0.2.4 Rush MyMacros 1.11 Useless Macro Collection 1.8.845 beta zOmbie's Macros Version 0.7 Windows 2000 Professional/5.0 build 2195 Service Pack 4 (0 days 12:22:34) on Uno AMD Duron Current beta is 3.0.2.5 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.0.2.5 Rush is now available
On Friday, November 05, 2004 at 7:31:09 PM [GMT -0500], Julien Ranc wrote: I have a strange new entry into Options / Preferences called Anothe Setings What is this for ?? Are you sure of the spelling of these options The spelling is definitely wrong. :) I'm not sure what they really wish to put there since, even with correct settings, it doesn't make much sense to me. It could be meant to be 'Other Settings' or 'Miscellaneous' where the settings that don't really belong to any of the other categories, would go. -- -= Allie =- . We are upping our standards... so up yours. __ Using The Bat! v3.0.2.5 for IMAP mail IMAP Server: MDaemon Pro | OS: Windows XP Pro (Service Pack 2) Current beta is 3.0.2.5 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.0.2.5 Rush is now available
On Fri, 5 Nov 2004 21:26:45 -0500, Allie Martin wrote: The spelling is definitely wrong. :) I'm not sure what they really wish to put there since, even with correct settings, it doesn't make much sense to me. It could be meant to be 'Other Settings' or 'Miscellaneous' where the settings that don't really belong to any of the other categories, would go. And this brings us back to the question of the Ritlabs need for a technical writer - someone, who besides rewriting the help file, would be able to fix up the English in the GUI. So I hope it is not inappropriate to ask what is happening in this respect. -- Avi Yashar Windows XP Pro and The Bat! Pro 3.0.2.4 Current beta is 3.0.2.5 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
